Regular Session - June 21, 1993

                                                                 
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         9               ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                June 21, 1993

        11                  3:15 p.m.

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        14               REGULAR SESSION

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        18       SENATOR HUGH T. FARLEY, Acting President

        19       STEPHEN F. SLOAN, Secretary

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         1                      P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         3       Senate will come to order.  Senators will find

         4       their places.  If you will please rise with me

         5       for the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.

         6                      (The assemblage repeated the

         7       Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. )

         8                      Today we're pleased to have with

         9       us the Reverend David M. Powers, Pastor of

        10       Briarcliff Congregational Church, the United

        11       Church of Christ of Briarcliff Manor, New York.

        12                      Reverend Powers.

        13                      REVEREND DAVID M. POWERS: Let us

        14       pray.

        15                      Ever living, everlasting God, as

        16       You envelop the world in the beauty and warmth

        17       of this season, creating summer days for the

        18       earth to produce new life, so grace this

        19       session, we pray, with the welcome warmth of

        20       Your presence and Your power.  Bless and protect

        21       all those who meet in this chamber.  Keep each

        22       one aware of the wider horizon of needs across

        23       the state of New York.  Attune our listening so











                                                             
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         1       we really hear one another.  Sharpen our vision

         2       so we are able to see new possibilities.

         3       Strengthen every resolve to act on even the most

         4       difficult and demanding issues and grant that

         5       the deliberations and decisions which this

         6       Senate is called to accomplish in these decisive

         7       days may reflect an earnest commitment to the

         8       things that make for life in all its fullness

         9       for every woman, every man, every child today

        10       and for all the days to come.  Amen.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Thank

        12       you, Pastor.

        13                      The Secretary will begin by

        14       reading the Journal.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  In Senate,

        16       Sunday, June 20th.  The Senate met pursuant to

        17       adjournment, Senator Farley in the Chair upon

        18       designation of the Temporary President.  The

        19       Journal of Saturday, June 19th, was read and

        20       approved.  On motion, Senate adjourned.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Hearing

        22       no objection, the Journal will stand approved as

        23       read.











                                                             
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         1                      The order of business:

         2       Presentation of petitions.

         3                      Messages from the Governor.

         4                      Reports of standing committees.

         5       Yes, we have a report from a standing

         6       committee.  The Secretary will read it.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Marino,

         8       from the Committee on Rules, reports the

         9       following bills directly for third reading:

        10                      Senate Bill Number 249, by

        11       Senator Gold, authorizing the city of New York

        12       to reconvey its interest in certain real

        13       property;

        14                      443, by Senator Stafford,

        15       Environmental Conservation Law;

        16                      755, by Senator Waldon,

        17       authorizing the city of New York to reconvey its

        18       interest in certain real property;

        19                      2225-A, by Senator Spano and

        20       others, Family Court Act;

        21                      2341, by Senator DeFrancisco, an

        22       act to amend the Highway Law;

        23                      2876-A, by Senator Pataki,











                                                             
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         1       Environmental Conservation Law;

         2                      3415, by Senator Kuhl, and

         3       others, Alcoholic Beverage Control Law;

         4                      3825-B, by Senator Volker,

         5       Criminal Procedure Law;

         6                      3859, by Senator Present, an act

         7       to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

         8                      3971, by Senator Seward, Public

         9       Service Law;

        10                      3991, by Senator Johnson,

        11       Environmental Conservation Law;

        12                      4087, by Senator Kuhl, Alcoholic

        13       Beverage Control Law;

        14                      4154, by Senator Nozzolio, Social

        15       Services Law;

        16                      4278, by Senator Wright, to

        17       provide for non-partisan primaries and elections

        18       in the city of Watertown;

        19                      4375-A, by Senator Johnson, to

        20       allow Paul D'Aversa, request for retroactive

        21       service credit in the retirement system;

        22                      4470, by Senator Gonzalez,

        23       Environmental Conservation Law;











                                                             
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         1                      4491, by Senator Present,

         2       Alcoholic Beverage Control Law;

         3                      4580, by Senator Mega, Criminal

         4       Procedure Law;

         5                      4638, by Senator Sheffer, New

         6       York State Canal Corporation;

         7                      4704, by Senator Padavan,

         8       Administrative Code of the city of New York;

         9                      4810, by Senator Stafford,

        10       Agriculture and Markets Law;

        11                      4950, by Senator Farley, General

        12       Municipal Law;

        13                      4969-A, by Senator Saland, Public

        14       Authorities Law;

        15                      4972, by Senator Hannon, making

        16       appropriations to the Department of

        17       Transportation;

        18                      4994-A, by Senator Lack,

        19       authorizing the sale of certain state-owned

        20       lands;

        21                      5071, by Senator Johnson, General

        22       Municipal Law;

        23                      5147, by Senator Holland, Public











                                                             
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         1       Authorities Law;

         2                      5186, by Senator Sheffer,

         3       Religious Corporation Law;

         4                      5371, by Senator Paterson,

         5       authorize Tier 1 status for Wilhelmina E.

         6       Holliday;

         7                      5403, by Senator LaValle, an act

         8       to dedicate the David A. Sarnoff Pine Barrens in

         9       the Rocky Point Natural Resources Management

        10       Area;

        11                      5410, by Senator Farley,

        12       Surrogate's Court Procedure Act;

        13                      5428, by Senator LaValle,

        14       Education Law;

        15                      5433, by Senator Levy,

        16       Transportation Law;

        17                      5487-A, by Senator Levy,

        18       authorizing a review of current drug-impaired

        19       driving education;

        20                      5530, by Senator Daly,

        21       Environmental Conservation Law;

        22                      5571, by Senator Padavan, Public

        23       Authorities Law;











                                                             
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         1                      5667, by Senator Trunzo, amends

         2       Chapter 901 of the Laws of 1990;

         3                      5681, by Senator Sears, Tax Law,

         4       and Chapter 644 of the Laws of 1984;

         5                      5684, by Senators Levy and Sears,

         6       amends Chapter 268 of the Laws of 1989;

         7                      5766, by Senator Saland, Public

         8       Authorities Law;

         9                      5808, by Senator Seward, an act

        10       to amend the Public Service Law;

        11                      5860, by Senator Saland, Social

        12       Services Law;

        13                      5866, by Senator Stafford, create

        14       a Motor Carrier Advisory Council;

        15                      And 5884, by Senator Trunzo,

        16       amends Chapter 422 of the Laws of 1991.

        17                      All bills -- excuse me, also

        18       Senate Bill Number 5887, by Senator Present,

        19       authorizing the county of Cattaraugus to elect

        20       and make optional 20-year retirement plan.

        21                      All bills reported directly for

        22       third reading.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  All











                                                             
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         1       bills are reported directly to third reading.

         2                      Continuing the order of business,

         3       reports of select committees.

         4                      Communications and reports from

         5       state officers.

         6                      Motions and resolutions.

         7                      Senator Present.

         8                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

         9       on behalf of Senator Marino, I wish to call up

        10       his bill, Print 1776, recalled from the

        11       Assembly.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        13       Secretary will read 1776.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  1776, by Senator

        15       Marino, an act to authorize the city of Glen

        16       Cove, Nassau County, to sell and convey certain

        17       parcels of real property.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        19       Present.

        20                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

        21       I now move to reconsider the vote by which this

        22       bill was passed.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call











                                                             
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         1       the roll on reconsideration.

         2                      (The Secretary called the roll on

         3       reconsideration. )

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 35.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         6       bill is before the house.  Senator Present.

         7                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

         8       I now offer the following amendments.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        10       Amendments received.  Bill will retain its

        11       place.

        12                      Senator Johnson.  Oh, you got

        13       another one? Senator Present.

        14                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

        15       on behalf of Senator Pataki, would you please

        16       place a sponsor's star on Calendar 1162.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  1162 is

        18       starred at the request of the sponsor.

        19                      Senator Johnson.

        20                      SENATOR PRESENT:  And one more.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  One

        22       more.  All right.

        23                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,











                                                             
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         1       will you please place a sponsor's star on

         2       Calendar 1158?

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  1158 is

         4       starred at the request of the sponsor.  One more

         5       coming.

         6                      Senator Johnson.

         7                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Hold on

         9       a minute.  Senator Present.

        10                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Place a

        11       sponsor's star on 1141, please.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  1141 is

        13       starred at the request of the sponsor.

        14                      Senator Nolan, did you -- if I

        15       might, Senator Johnson.

        16                      SENATOR NOLAN:  Yes.

        17                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  On page 39 -

        18                      SENATOR NOLAN:  I'd like to

        19       announce some guests we have here today in the

        20       chamber.  We have a delegation, official

        21       delegation, to the United States from the

        22       standing committee of Tientsin (T'ien-ching)

        23       China.  They are here today. I'd like to welcome











                                                             
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         1       them to the chamber here this afternoon.

         2       Peoples delegation from Tientsin, China.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  On

         4       behalf of the New York State Senate, welcome.

         5                      Senator Johnson.

         6                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Mr. President,

         7       page 39, please remove the sponsor's star on

         8       Calendar Number 438, Print Number S. 3534-A.

         9                      Thank you.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Star is

        11       removed.

        12                      Senator Skelos.

        13                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President, I

        14       wish to call up the following Senate bills which

        15       have been recalled from the Assembly and are now

        16       at the desk.

        17                      Senator Volker's bill, Print

        18       Number 5394; Senator Saland's 4867; Senator

        19       Libous, 4881.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        21       Secretary will read them.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator

        23       Volker, Senate Bill Number 5394, authorizing the











                                                             
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         1       village of Hamburg to discontinue the use and

         2       sell certain park lands.

         3                      4867, by Senator Saland, Social

         4       Services Law, in relation to notice of surrender

         5       proceedings.

         6                      Also Senate Bill Number 4881, by

         7       Senator Libous, Education Law.

         8                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President, I

         9       now move to reconsider the vote by which said

        10       bills passed this house.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Would

        12       you call the roll on reconsideration of those

        13       bills.

        14                      (The Secretary called the roll on

        15       reconsideration. )

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        18       bill is before the house.

        19                      Senator Skelos.

        20                      SENATOR SKELOS:  I now offer the

        21       following amendments to said bills.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        23       amendments are received and the bills will











                                                             
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         1       retain their places on the Third Reading

         2       Calendar.

         3                      Senator Wright.

         4                      SENATOR WRIGHT:  Mr. President,

         5       amendments are offered to the following Third

         6       Reading Calendar bills: By Senator Farley, page

         7       9, Calendar 489, Senate Print Number 2756; by

         8       Senator LaValle, page number 14, Calendar 725,

         9       Senate Print 4128; by Senator Velella, page 27,

        10       Calendar Number 1091, Senate Print 4988; by

        11       Senator Cook, page number 31, Calendar Number

        12       1164, Senate Print 3028-A; by Senator Holland,

        13       page 38, Calendar Number 381, Senate Print

        14       Number 48; and by Senator Sheffer, page 41,

        15       Calendar 753, Senate Print Number 3321.

        16                      Mr. President, I now move that

        17       these bills retain their place on the order of

        18       third reading.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        20       amendments are received and the bills will

        21       retain their place on the Third Reading

        22       Calendar.

        23                      SENATOR COOK:  Mr. President.











                                                             
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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         2       Cook.

         3                      SENATOR COOK:  Could you please

         4       remove stars from Calendars 633 and 832 and

         5       place a star on Calendar 954.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         7       stars are removed at the request of the sponsor

         8       and the bill so named is starred.

         9                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  Mr.

        10       President.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        12       Stafford.

        13                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  I believe

        14       there's a privileged resolution at the desk.

        15       May the title please be read and have its

        16       immediate adoption.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        18       Secretary will read the title of Senator

        19       Stafford's resolution.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Legislative

        21       Resolution, by Senator Stafford, honoring Dr.

        22       Charles O. Warren of SUNY-Plattsburgh in

        23       recognition of his distinguished service and











                                                             
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         1       accomplishments as president of SUNY-Plattsburgh

         2       from 1987 to 1993.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  On the

         4       resolution, all in favor say aye.

         5                      (Response of "Aye.")

         6                      Those opposed nay.

         7                      (There was no response. )

         8                      The resolution is adopted.

         9                      We have some substitutions,

        10       Senator Present.  Secretary will read them.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  On page 4 of the

        12       calendar, Senator Mega moves to discharge the

        13       Committee on Rules from Assembly Bill Number

        14       7767-A and substitute it for the identical Third

        15       Reading 133.

        16                      On page 15, Senator Sears moves

        17       to discharge the Committee on Rules from

        18       Assembly Bill Number 6102-A and substitute it

        19       for the identical Third Reading 732.

        20                      On page 26, Senator Sheffer moves

        21       to discharge the Committee on Rules from

        22       Assembly Bill Number 2871-A and substitute it

        23       for the identical Third Reading 1064.











                                                             
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         1                      On page 30, Senator Paterson

         2       moves to discharge the Committee on Rules from

         3       Assembly Bill Number 4212, and substitute it for

         4       the identical Third Reading 1155.

         5                      On page 31, Senator Marchi moves

         6       to discharge the Committee on Environmental

         7       Conservation from Assembly Bill Number 2396-A

         8       and substitute it for the identical Third

         9       Reading 1158.

        10                      Also on page 31, Senator Trunzo

        11       moves to discharge the Committee on Rules from

        12       Assembly Bill Number 7977 and substitute it for

        13       the identical Calendar Number 1163.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        15       Substitutions are ordered.

        16                      Are there any other motions on

        17       the floor?

        18                      Senator Present.

        19                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

        20       we take up the non-controversial calendar,

        21       please.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        23       Secretary will read the non-controversial











                                                             
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         1       calendar.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  On page 6,

         3       Calendar Number 269, by Senator Saland, Senate

         4       Bill Number 3383-A, an act to amend the Social

         5       Services Law, in relation to notifying police

         6       departments of the emergency removal of

         7       children.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         9       the last section.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        11       act shall take effect immediately.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        13       the roll.

        14                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        17       bill is passed.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       306, by Senator Mega, Senate Bill Number 2175 -

        20                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        22       that resolution aside.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number











                                                             
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         1       311, by Senator Maltese, Senate Bill Number

         2       1053-A, an act to amend the Real Property Tax

         3       Law.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         5       the last section.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         7       act shall take effect immediately.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         9       the roll.

        10                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        13       bill is passed.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        15       471, by member of the Assembly Wright, Assembly

        16       Bill Number -

        17                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay that bill

        18       aside.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        20       that bill aside.  For the day?

        21                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Yes.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        23       aside for the day.











                                                             
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         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         2       620, by Senator Velella.

         3                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

         5       that bill aside.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         7       625, by Senator Libous, Senate Bill Number

         8       3815-C, an act to amend the General Business

         9       Law, in relation to motorized wheelchair

        10       warranties.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        12       the last section.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        16       the roll.

        17                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        20       bill is passed.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        22       626, by Senator Sears, Senate Bill Number

        23       4208-A, an act to amend the Agriculture and











                                                             
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         1       Markets Law, unit pricing of consumer -

         2                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay it

         3       aside.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

         5       aside.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         7       646, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number 1240,

         8       an act to amend the General Obligations Law.

         9                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

        11       aside.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 800, by

        13       Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number 4720 -

        14                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        16       that bill aside.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        18       888, by Senator Farley, Senate Bill Number

        19       4953-A, an act to amend the Banking Law.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        21       the last section.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        23       act shall take effect immediately.











                                                             
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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         2       the roll.

         3                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         6       bill is passed.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       890, by Senator levy, Senate Bill -

         9                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay aside for

        10       the day, please.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        12       that bill aside for today.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        14       892, by Senator Levy, Senate Bill Number 1309-A,

        15       an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        17       the last section.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        19       act shall take effect immediately.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        21       the roll.

        22                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.











                                                             
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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         2       bill is passed.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         4       961, by Senator Levy, Senate Bill Number 999-A,

         5       an act to amend the General Obligations Law.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         7       the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        11       the roll.

        12                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  That

        15       bill is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       971, by the Senate Committee on Rules.

        18                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        20       that bill aside.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        22       980, by Senator Larkin, Senate Bill Number 5744,

        23       authorizing the city of Newburgh to issue serial











                                                             
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         1       bonds.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         3       Larkin has a home rule message here at the

         4       desk.  You can read the last section.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         6       act shall take effect immediately.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         8       the roll.

         9                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        14       1000, by Senator Wright, Senate Bill Number

        15       4277.

        16                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay aside for

        17       the day, please.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        19       that aside for today.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        21       1009, by Senator Saland, Senate Bill Number

        22       5765, authorizing the Town of Wappinger, county

        23       of Dutchess, to discontinue the use of certain











                                                             
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         1       park lands.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         3       Saland has a home rule message here at the

         4       desk.  You can read the last section.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         6       act shall take effect immediately.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         8       the roll.

         9                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        14       1012, by Senator Saland, Senate Bill Number

        15       686-A, an act to amend the Real Property Tax

        16       Law.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        18       the last section.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        22       the roll.

        23                      (The Secretary called the roll. )











                                                             
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         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 43.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         3       bill is passed.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         5       1016, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Bill Number

         6       2454-A, an act to amend the Executive Law.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         8       the last section.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        10       act shall take effect immediately.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        12       the roll.

        13                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 42, nays

        15       one, Senator Leichter recorded in the negative.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        17       bill is passed.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       1022, by Senator Wright, Senate Bill Number

        20       3806-B, State Administrative Procedure Act.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        22       the last section.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This











                                                             
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         1       act shall take effect immediately.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         3       the roll.

         4                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 43.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         7       bill is passed.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  1026, by Senator

         9       Kuhl, Senate Bill Number 3877-B, an act to amend

        10       the General Municipal Law.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        12       Kuhl has a home rule message here at the desk.

        13       You can read the last section.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        15       act shall take effect immediately.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        17       the roll.

        18                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 43.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        21       bill is passed.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        23       1051, by Senator Sears.











                                                             
5275

         1                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

         3       aside.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         5       1064, substituted earlier today, by member of

         6       the Assembly Pillittere.

         7                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

         9       aside.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       1069, by Senator cook, Senate Bill Number -

        12                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

        14       aside.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        16       1084, by Senator Lack, Senate Bill Number 4471,

        17       an act to amend the Agriculture and Markets

        18       Law.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        20       the last section.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        22       act shall take effect immediately.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call











                                                             
5276

         1       the roll.

         2                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 44.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         5       bill is passed.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         7       1088, by Senator Stafford, Senate Bill Number

         8       4853, an act to amend the Environmental

         9       Conservation -

        10                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

        12       aside.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        14       1107, by Senator Levy, Senate Bill Number -

        15                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        17       that bill aside.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       1112, by Senator Cook, Senate Bill Number

        20       2918-B, an act to amend the Town Law, the

        21       Village Law and the General City Law.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        23       the last section.











                                                             
5277

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         2       act shall take effect immediately.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         4       the roll.

         5                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 45.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         8       bill is passed.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        10       1115, by Senator Maltese, Senate Bill Number

        11       3265, an act to amend the Social Services Law.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        13       the last section.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        15       act -

        16                      SENATOR MALTESE:  Lay aside.

        17                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay it aside

        18       for today.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        20       aside for today.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        22       1126, by Senator Johnson, Senate Bill Number -

        23                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay it











                                                             
5278

         1       aside.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

         3       aside.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         5       1127, by Senator -

         6                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

         8       aside.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        10       1132, by Senator Seward, Senate Bill -

        11                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

        13       aside.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        15       1137, by Senator Saland.

        16                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay aside for

        17       the day, please.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

        19       aside for the day.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        21       1141.

        22                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay aside for

        23       the day.











                                                             
5279

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

         2       aside for the day.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         4       1156, by Senator levy, Senate Bill Number 1001,

         5       an act to amend the Education Law.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         7       the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        11       the roll.

        12                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 46.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        15       bill is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1157, by Senator Levy, Senate Bill Number 1310,

        18       an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        20       the last section.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        22       act shall take effect immediately.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call











                                                             
5280

         1       the roll.

         2                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 46, nays 23,

         4       Senators Kuhl and Wright recorded in the

         5       negative.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         7       bill is passed.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       1159, by Senator Skelos.

        10                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

        12       aside.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        14       1163, substituted earlier today, by the Assembly

        15       Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 7977,

        16       Education Law, in relation to annexation of

        17       territory.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        19       the last section.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        21       act shall take effect immediately.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        23       the roll.











                                                             
5281

         1                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 48.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         4       bill is passed.

         5                      We were out of order on that, so

         6       we're going to do 1160, is that correct, now?

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       1160, by Senator Spano.

         9                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

        11       aside.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        13       1165, by Senator Velella.

        14                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Lay aside.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        16       that bill aside.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        18       1166, by Senator Velella, Senate Bill Number

        19       3188, an act to amend the Executive Law.

        20                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Lay aside.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        22       that bill aside.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar number











                                                             
5282

         1       1167, by Senator Sheffer, Senate Bill Number

         2       3374-A, an act to amend the Tax Law.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         4       the last section.

         5                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay aside.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

         7       aside.  Don't read the last section.

         8                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Go ahead.

         9                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  No, lay it

        10       aside.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Do you

        12       want it laid aside?

        13                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Yes.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  All

        15       right.  Senator Sheffer's bill is laid aside.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1169, by Senator Pataki, Senate Bill Number

        18       3566, an act to amend the Penal Law.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        20       the last section.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        22       act shall take effect immediately.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call











                                                             
5283

         1       the roll.

         2                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         5       bill is passed.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         7       1170, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Bill Number

         8       3951, an act to amend the Domestic Relations

         9       Law.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        11       the last section.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        13       act shall take effect immediately.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        15       the roll.

        16                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        19       bill is passed.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        21       1171, by Senator Spano, Senate Bill Number

        22       4224-A, New York State Financial Emergency Act

        23       of 1984.











                                                             
5284

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         2       Spano has a home rule message here at the desk.

         3       Read the last section.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         7       the roll.

         8                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        11       bill is passed.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        13       1172, by Senator Wright, Senate Bill Number

        14       4230-B, amends Chapter 266 of the Laws of 1854.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read -

        16       lay that bill aside.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        18       1173, by Senator Cook, Senate Bill Number 4327,

        19       legalizing, ratifying, validating and confirming

        20       certain actions by the town of Roxbury.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        22       Cook has a home rule message at the desk.  You

        23       can read the last section.











                                                             
5285

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         2       act shall take effect immediately.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         4       the roll.

         5                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         8       bill is passed.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        10       1174, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number

        11       4433, an act to amend the Tax Law.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        13       the last section.

        14                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Lay aside.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        16       aside.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        18       1175, by Senator Libous, Senate Bill Number

        19       4449, an act to amend the Penal Law.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        21       the last section.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        23       act shall take effect immediately.











                                                             
5286

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         2       the roll.

         3                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         6       bill is passed.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       1176, Senator Wright moves to discharge the

         9       Committee on Rules from Assembly Bill Number

        10       6609, and substitute it for the identical

        11       Calendar Number 1176.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        13       Substitution is ordered.  Read the last

        14       section.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        16       act shall take effect immediately.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        18       the roll.

        19                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        22       bill is passed.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number











                                                             
5287

         1       1177, by Senator Volker, Senate Bill Number

         2       4830, an act to amend the Penal Law.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         4       the last section.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         6       act shall take effect immediately.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         8       the roll.

         9                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        14       1178, by Senator Levy, Senate Bill Number 4844,

        15       an act to amend the Tax Law.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        17       the last section.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        19       act shall take effect immediately.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        21       the roll.

        22                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.











                                                             
5288

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         2       bill is passed.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         4       1179, by Senator Maltese, Senate Bill Number

         5       4917, an act to amend the civil service law.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         7       the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        11       the roll.

        12                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        15       bill is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1180, by Senator Padavan, Senate Bill Number

        18       4955, an act to amend the Penal Law and the

        19       General Business Law.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        21       the last section.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        23       act shall take effect immediately.











                                                             
5289

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         2       the roll.

         3                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         6       bill is passed.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       1181, by Senator Hannon, Senate Bill Number

         9       4991, an act to amend the Tax Law.

        10                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay it aside.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        12       that bill aside.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        14       1182, by Senator Hannon, Senate Bill Number

        15       5017, to allow Douglas Robins, an employee -

        16                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay aside.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        18       aside.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        20       1183, by Senator Hannon, Senate Bill Number

        21       5332, amends Chapter 750 of the Laws of 1871,

        22       relating to incorporating -

        23                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay aside.











                                                             
5290

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

         2       aside.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         4       1184, by Senator Cook, Senate Bill Number 5352,

         5       an act to amend the Local Finance Law.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         7       the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        11       the roll.

        12                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        15       bill is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1185, by Senator Masiello, Senate Bill Number -

        18                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Lay it

        19       aside.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        21       that bill aside.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        23       1187, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number











                                                             
5291

         1       5589, an act to amend the Executive Law.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         3       the last section.

         4                      SENATOR LACK:  Lay it aside.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

         6       that bill aside.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  1188, by Senator

         8       Tully.

         9                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay aside for

        10       the day.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        12       aside for the day.

        13                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Next one lay

        14       aside for the day.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay the

        16       next one aside for the day, 1189.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        18       1190, by Senator Saland, Senate Bill Number

        19       5859, Local Finance Law, in relation to revenue

        20       anticipation notes.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        22       the last section.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This











                                                             
5292

         1       act shall take effect immediately.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         3       the roll.

         4                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         7       bill is passed.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       1191, by Senator -

        10                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay aside.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        12       that bill aside.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        14       1192, by Senator Seward, Senate Bill Number

        15       5883, an act to amend the Town Law.

        16                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay aside.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        18       that bill aside.

        19                      Senator Present, that's the first

        20       time through.

        21                      SENATOR SALAND:  Mr. President.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        23       Saland.











                                                             
5293

         1                      SENATOR SALAND:  I was out of the

         2       chamber at the time that Calendar 961 was

         3       called.  I walked in shortly thereafter and did

         4       not want to have the bill reconsidered. I'd like

         5       unanimous consent to cast my vote in the

         6       negative and would like to briefly explain my

         7       vote if I might, sir.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Without

         9       objection, Senator Saland to explain his

        10       negative vote.

        11                      SENATOR SALAND:  Thank you, Mr.

        12       President.

        13                      Mr. President, Senator Levy's

        14       bill certainly is laudable in its intent.  It

        15       attempts to make parents absolutely liable for

        16       the acts of their children up to the tune of

        17       $2500 in those instances where a child has done

        18       damage to a house of worship.

        19                      My concern, however, is where a

        20       parent has, with the best of intentions,

        21       expended a considerable amount of money perhaps

        22       to deal with a troubled youngster, one who might

        23       have emotional problems, one who might be cared











                                                             
5294

         1       for by a psychiatrist perhaps in extensive

         2       therapy, and endeavors in every way humanly

         3       possible to assist that child with his or her

         4       problems, maybe even to use an extreme example,

         5       keep the child secured perhaps using a third

         6       party to act as that security, and the child

         7       evades that security and causes the damage.

         8                      There's no provision for any

         9       mitigation here.  However, while Senator Levy

        10       provides that the court can consider the

        11       financial ability of the parents where it

        12       exceeds $2500 and provides a $2500 floor for the

        13       amount to be paid, there's no consideration for

        14       mitigation and in the absence of that

        15       consideration for mitigation where the parents

        16       have made genuine good faith efforts to try and

        17       deal with a troubled child, I feel compelled to

        18       vote in the negative.

        19                      Thank you, Mr. President.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Without

        21       objection, Senator Saland is in the negative.

        22                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Mr. President.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator











                                                             
5295

         1       Holland.

         2                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Can I be

         3       registered in the negative on that bill also,

         4       please?

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         6       Holland will be in the negative.

         7                      SENATOR SEARS:  I also.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         9       Sears is in the negative.

        10                      Controversial.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  On page 6,

        12       Calendar Number 306, by Senator Mega, Senate

        13       Bill Number 2175-A, proposing an amendment to

        14       the Constitution.

        15                      SENATOR GOLD:  Explanation.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        17       Explanation has been asked for.  Senator Mega.

        18                      SENATOR MEGA:  This is a

        19       concurrent resolution.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Hold

        21       on, Senator Mega.  We're a little noisy in this

        22       chamber.

        23                      SENATOR MEGA:  This is a











                                                             
5296

         1       concurrent resolution, its first passage

         2       increasing the jurisdiction of the New York City

         3       Civil Courts from 25,000 to 50,000 and the

         4       jurisdiction of the District Courts from 15,000

         5       to 50,000.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Is that

         7       explanation satisfactory? Read -

         8                      SENATOR GOLD:  No.  Mr.

         9       President, will the Senator yield to a

        10       question?

        11                      SENATOR MEGA:  Certainly.

        12                      SENATOR GOLD:  Senator, will you

        13       explain the difference between the original

        14       print and the "A" print?

        15                      SENATOR MEGA:  The original print

        16       did not include the District Courts.

        17                      SENATOR GOLD:  All right.  Thank

        18       you.

        19                      Mr. President, on the bill.

        20       There is a memorandum in opposition to the

        21       original bill by the New York State Trial

        22       Lawyers Association.  They are concerned what

        23       this increase would do.  One sentence in the











                                                             
5297

         1       bill is, quotes: "An increase to 50,000, taken

         2       in conjunction with mandatory arbitration

         3       programs now in existence in our New York City

         4       Civil Court system, could serve to drive too

         5       many victims from the judicial system."

         6                      Mr. President, we do have a

         7       structure right now. Senator Mega, I don't know

         8       what we want to do with that structure.  There

         9       is a proposal by the Governor to merge all

        10       courts, as you know.  There was a proposal filed

        11       by the Speaker last week to merge all courts -

        12       two ideas which I think are horrendous,

        13       unnecessary expenses.  But in this regard,

        14       Senator, I must say that there are a lot of

        15       procedures that go to our judicial laws to set

        16       up the Civil Court and the District Courts

        17       differently from the Supreme Court, and I

        18       believe, Senator, and not to make this a long

        19       debate, but I believe that a lot of that was

        20       geared to the fact that the amounts of money

        21       involved were different.

        22                      We had at one point limitations

        23       on our lower court to 3,000, 6,000, 10,000.











                                                             
5298

         1       25,000, Senator, I'm only a country lawyer but

         2       25,000 to me is a lot of money. $50,000 is

         3       already very serious, significant money to a lot

         4       of people, and I would think that people with

         5       claims that are that size are entitled to a

         6       Supreme Court.

         7                      I don't want to argue the merger

         8       issue, but that issue is an issue.  I don't

         9       think you get the merger by raising the limits

        10       of the lower court to a point where everybody

        11       shrugs their shoulders and says, "What's the

        12       difference anyway?" The court systems in this

        13       state need some repairs.

        14                      I don't think this does the

        15       repair, and I would just point out that while

        16       the trial lawyers' memo is on the original

        17       print, based upon your comments, I assume they

        18       would also be opposed to the amended version,

        19       since none of their arguments in their memo

        20       talks about opposition merely because you left

        21       out the civil courts.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        23       the roll on Senator Mega's resolution.











                                                             
5299

         1                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49, nays 3,

         3       Senators Connor, Gold and Ohrenstein recorded in

         4       the negative.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         6       resolution is -- the resolution is adopted.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       620, by Senator Velella, Senate Bill Number

         9       2562-A, an act to amend the Executive Law, in

        10       relation to establishing the Office of Risk

        11       Assessment and Management.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        13       the last -

        14                      SENATOR GOLD:  Senator Velella,

        15       an explanation.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        17       Explanation.  Senator Velella.

        18                      SENATOR VELELLA:  Yes, Senator.

        19       This bill would establish within the Office of

        20       General Services a division or office of risk

        21       management for the state of New York.

        22                      The purpose of this would be to

        23       have a separate office assess the liabilities











                                                             
5300

         1       for New York State, make recommendations to

         2       various state agencies on how our exposure to

         3       liability might be limited and how we might

         4       prevent any possible losses to the state.

         5                      It is something that all major

         6       corporations have.  Many local governments and

         7       state governments across the country have it and

         8       I think it's time that New York became part of

         9       the team of our governmental agencies that have

        10       this.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  You can

        12       read the last section.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        16       the roll.

        17                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50, nays

        19       two, Senators Waldon and Wright recorded in the

        20       negative.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        22       bill is passed.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number











                                                             
5301

         1       626, by Senator Sears, Senate Bill Number

         2       4208-A, Agriculture and Markets Law, in relation

         3       to requirements for unit pricing.

         4                      SENATOR GOLD:  Explanation.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

         6       Explanation has been asked for.  Senator Sears.

         7                      SENATOR SEARS:  This is a bill

         8       that passed earlier this year and the -- the "A"

         9       version takes out the 98 percent compliance

        10       provision.  Instead, the existing enforcement by

        11       section 214 (h) of the Ag and Markets law

        12       applies.  That is, if the Agriculture and

        13       Markets inspector finds a violation, then the

        14       store can be fined up to $300 per violation.

        15                      When this passed earlier, it went

        16       over to the Assembly and they had an objection

        17       to that 98 percent compliance, so we -- we

        18       amended the bill to take that whole section 3

        19       out.

        20                      SENATOR GOLD:  Last section.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        22       the last section.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This











                                                             
5302

         1       act shall take effect immediately.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         3       the roll.

         4                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 52.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         7       bill is passed.

         8                      Senator Saland.

         9                      SENATOR SALAND:  Mr. President,

        10       with apologies, may I please have unanimous

        11       consent to be recorded in the negative on

        12       Calendar Number 620, Senate 2562-A.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Without

        14       objection, Senator Saland is in the negative on

        15       620.

        16                      Senator Larkin.

        17                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Mr. President,

        18       may I have unanimous consent to be recorded in

        19       the negative on Calendar 620, Print Number

        20       2562-A.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        22       Larkin is in the negative on 620.

        23                      Continue the calendar.











                                                             
5303

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         2       646, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number 1240,

         3       an act to amend the General Obligations Law.

         4                      SENATOR GOLD:  Explanation.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

         6       Explanation.  Senator Skelos.

         7                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Under this

         8       legislation, Senator Gold, which passed the

         9       Senate in '91 and '92, in an action for damages,

        10       if the defendant, who in this case would be a

        11       victim of a crime, shows that the injuries

        12       sustained by the plaintiff, which would be the

        13       criminal, arose during the commission or

        14       attempted commission by the plaintiff of certain

        15       enumerated crimes, and that the actions of the

        16       defendant were justified pursuant to Article 35

        17       of the Penal Law, then the Plaintiff is deemed

        18       to assume the risk of injury coming from the

        19       encounter with the victim and that the proof

        20       shall constitute a complete defense to the

        21       action.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        23       the last section.











                                                             
5304

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         2       act shall take effect immediately.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         4       the roll.

         5                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49, nays 3,

         7       Senators Connor, Gold and Ohrenstein recorded in

         8       the negative.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        10       bill is passed.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        12       800, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number

        13       4720-A.

        14                      SENATOR GOLD:  Explanation.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        16       Explanation requested.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Environmental

        18       Conservation Law.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        20       Skelos.

        21                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Senator Gold,

        22       this legislation was recommended to me when I

        23       conducted task force hearings in Buffalo which











                                                             
5305

         1       were put together by, in this case, McHugh/

         2       Masiello, and it's also co-sponsored on a

         3       bipartisan basis in this house, would prohibit

         4       the confiscation or taxation of emission

         5       reduction credits as defined by Title I of the

         6       federal Clean Air Act in any manner unless

         7       specifically authorized by law, meaning the

         8       Legislature and signed by the Governor.

         9                      Emission reduction credits are

        10       created when a business reduces emissions of

        11       volatile organic compounds. These credits are

        12       not, and I want to emphasize, should not be

        13       confused with acid rain allowances which have a

        14       totally different chemical make-up and are not

        15       mentioned in Title I of the Clean Air Act.

        16                      These emission reduction credits

        17       are of considerable monetary value to each busi

        18       ness.  In addition, they serve as an economic

        19       incentive to pollute less.  Thus, any confisca

        20       tion or taxation by the DEC as outlined in their

        21       new Source Review Regulations, Part 231, is

        22       considered counterproductive to the emission

        23       trading program, the federal Clean Air Act, and











                                                             
5306

         1       a severe detriment to New York's environmental

         2       and economic welfare.

         3                      SENATOR GOLD:  Thank you,

         4       Senator.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         6       Gold.

         7                      SENATOR GOLD:  Yeah, I'd like to

         8       point out, Mr. President, that both the

         9       Department of Environmental Conservation has

        10       filed a memo in opposition and the Environmental

        11       Planning Lobby -- Lobby has filed in opposition

        12       and I feel terrible that there are some

        13       Democrats on the bill or maybe after the vote

        14       I'll be proud that there are some Democrats on

        15       the bill.

        16                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Mr. President.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        18       Leichter.

        19                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Would Senator

        20       Skelos yield, please?

        21                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Yes.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        23       Skelos, would you yield, please?











                                                             
5307

         1                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Senator

         2       Skelos.

         3                      SENATOR SKELOS:  I'll yield to

         4       Frank any time.

         5                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Yes, Senator.

         6       Under your bill, if a facility had built up

         7       credits that it could transfer, could that

         8       facility transfer the credits and then close up

         9       its shop in New York State?

        10                      SENATOR SKELOS:  No, the issue

        11       here, Senator Leichter, is very simply that

        12       these credits are allowed to certain businesses

        13       and whether the DEC, by regulation, should be

        14       allowed to just come in and confiscate without

        15       any type of payment to the company.

        16                      Now, for example, if the state

        17       decided that they wanted to put tracks from one

        18       part of the state to the other and they had to

        19       confiscate your property, it would be as if they

        20       had the right to take your property without

        21       paying you anything for it.

        22                      So it's really an issue of,

        23       number one, should this asset be confiscated











                                                             
5308

         1       without any payment to the company for their

         2       efforts in lowering pollution level and should

         3       it really be a Legislative prerogative rather

         4       than a regulation by the DEC to permit this type

         5       of confiscation? And I also want to point out

         6       that this legislation is supported by The

         7       Business Council, the Buffalo Chamber of

         8       Commerce, the Upstate Roundtable and the Long

         9       Island Association.

        10                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Well -

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        12       Leichter.

        13                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Well, you -

        14       even if I were to agree with you that this is a

        15       legislative prerogative and that we don't want

        16       DEC to lay down blanket rules by regulation,

        17       there's still a question of how carefully and

        18       well your bill is drafted and, by the way, I

        19       want to say I don't agree with your basic

        20       premise, but I'm still concerned that your bill

        21       would facilitate a New York business

        22       transferring its pollution credits and then

        23       closing its door.











                                                             
5309

         1                      Why wouldn't you put in your bill

         2       that that transfer is only available to

         3       businesses that are then not closed down shop

         4       and lay New Yorkers off?

         5                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Why would a

         6       business who would go through all the efforts

         7       and the expense of improving their business

         8       environmentally then just want to close down? It

         9       makes no sense.

        10                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  I -- I beg to

        11       differ with you, sir, and I can give you some

        12       examples where that could happen.  I don't think

        13       you could preclude the possibility of that

        14       occurring because we've seen cement factories

        15       and other businesses that create pollution.

        16                      SENATOR SKELOS:  They could do

        17       that right now.  Senator, couldn't they close up

        18       their business right now if they want to?

        19                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Yeah, but they

        20       couldn't -- under the DEC regulations, they

        21       couldn't close down and get the benefit of

        22       transferring their pollution credits.  You're -

        23       you're giving them possibly an additional











                                                             
5310

         1       incentive of doing that.

         2                      SENATOR SKELOS:  No, I disagree

         3       with you.

         4                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Well, Mr.

         5       President.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  On the

         7       bill, Senator Leichter.

         8                      SENATOR DALY:  Mr. President.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Well,

        10       Senator Daly.

        11                      SENATOR DALY:  Mr. President,

        12       will Senator Leichner yield?

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        14       Leichter, would you yield to Senator Daly?

        15                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  I always yield

        16       to Senator Daly.

        17                      SENATOR DALY:  I've looked over

        18       the memo, I've looked over the bill.  I don't

        19       see anything in the bill, not even in the memo

        20       that would imply that it would cover this

        21       situation and have the same result.  If what you

        22       say is true, then you can do it under the

        23       existing rules and regs.











                                                             
5311

         1                      This bill does not apply in any

         2       way, shape or form to that question.  All this

         3       bill says is that a company -- that DEC cannot

         4       take a ten percent hit or a company won't get a

         5       ten percent hit from DEC if it reduces its

         6       emission.  Show me where it says that.

         7                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Senator, it's

         8       the failure to cover that situation.  It's

         9       precisely, you read it the way I do.  You looked

        10       and you found nothing covering that situation.

        11       That's precisely the problem.  It ought to be

        12       covered.  We ought to, Senator, in this bill,

        13       whether you agree with Senator Skelos' premise

        14       or not, that at the very least we ought to

        15       prohibit a company from transferring the credit

        16       and then closing its doors.

        17                      You know, Senator Daly, that

        18       we've had the situation where we've given

        19       companies IDA loans or other benefits where they

        20       then close the door, they've taken the money of

        21       the people of the state of New York, they've

        22       thrown New Yorkers out of work and they've gone

        23       to some other place or just closed up.











                                                             
5312

         1       Certainly, this could happen under this -- under

         2       this bill.

         3                      SENATOR DALY:  Mr. President.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         5       Daly.

         6                      SENATOR DALY:  Will the Senator

         7       yield for another question?

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Would

         9       you yield for another question?

        10                      SENATOR DALY:  Now, let me quote

        11       you about five minutes ago, Senator Leichter.

        12       You said under the existing DEC regulations this

        13       could not happen; the company could not close

        14       down after it claimed some credits.  This bill

        15       doesn't impact on that. Doesn't change that in

        16       the rules and regs.

        17                      All this bill says, pure and

        18       simple, is that, if a company gets credits, DEC

        19       cannot take ten percent of those credits,

        20       period.

        21                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Well, Senator,

        22       let me correct -- correct it to this extent.

        23       The DEC would have one of their proposed











                                                             
5313

         1       regulations, it may not be the regulation now

         2       and to that extent I think you're right, I'm

         3       told, proposed regulation, most recent proposal

         4       would bank all of the credits generated by

         5       facility closure; so the DEC intends to cover

         6       that situation that I'm concerned about.

         7                      It doesn't mean in no way dealing

         8       with the whole universe of this bill, but I

         9       think it's an important point and one of concern

        10       to all of us because we're concerned about

        11       facilities that take advantage of our laws and

        12       then close up shop throwing New Yorkers out of

        13       work.  So that the DEC regulations proposed

        14       would cover that particular situation and, if

        15       this bill became law, then that regulation, as I

        16       read it, would -- could not be enacted by DEC.

        17                      SENATOR DALY:  Mr. President.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        19       Daly.

        20                      SENATOR DALY:  If the -- if

        21       Senator Leichter can just show me where -

        22       anywhere in this bill, where this bill denies

        23       DEC the right -- the right to establish that











                                                             
5314

         1       rule and regulation, I'll surrender.  All this

         2       bill does is take section -

         3                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  I'll show you

         4       where.

         5                      SENATOR DALY:  Show me.

         6                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  It does it on

         7       page 2, starting line 3.  It says the department

         8       is prohibited from confiscating tax emission

         9       offsets as defined in Title I, so if the

        10       department now, as it intends to, so I'm

        11       advised, will prohibit the transfer of any

        12       emission credits in the event there's a closure

        13       by the plant, it could not do this if this bill

        14       became law.

        15                      SENATOR DALY:  Give me that one

        16       more time.  I don't understand it.

        17                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  O.K. Let's go

        18       through this slowly.

        19                      SENATOR DALY:  Yes, I need some

        20       time.

        21                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  I'll be

        22       accommodating, Senator.  Senator Skelos' bill

        23       prohibits the department from confiscating or











                                                             
5315

         1       taking emission offsets, period, finally,

         2       conclusively, without any exception.  The DEC, I

         3       am told, has a number of regulations in mind

         4       dealing with these emission credits and offsets,

         5       one of which could be that you can't -- that you

         6       cannot get the offset and cannot get the credit

         7       in the event there is a closure of the plant.

         8                      SENATOR DALY:  Mr. President,

         9       this bill -

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        11       Daly.

        12                      SENATOR DALY:  This bill would

        13       not deny DEC that right.  It does not.

        14                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Well, Senator,

        15       can I ask you then if you will yield?

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        17       Daly, will you yield for a question?

        18                      SENATOR DALY:  Certainly.

        19                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  What does it

        20       mean when it says the department is prohibited

        21       from confiscating or taking emission offsets?

        22       What does that mean?

        23                      SENATOR DALY:  Well, just what it











                                                             
5316

         1       says.

         2                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  That's exactly

         3       what I thought it meant and, therefore, it would

         4       certainly cover my situation.

         5                      SENATOR DALY:  No, Senator, it

         6       would not.

         7                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Well, let's

         8       see if, first, Senator Skelos can -

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        10       Skelos.

        11                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  No, I'm just

        12       yielding to him because he's on his feet and

        13       maybe he can answer my problem.

        14                      SENATOR SKELOS:  I'm just

        15       stretching a little bit, Senator Leichter.

        16                      The whole issue here is whether

        17       DEC, number one, should have the right to

        18       promulgate these type of regulations rather than

        19       the Legislature and the Governor, and the point

        20       also is that the Department of Economic

        21       Development is the agency that is concerned

        22       about economic development within this state.

        23                      DEC, with these regulations, as











                                                             
5317

         1       far as I'm concerned, you may disagree, is

         2       exceeding its authority and encroaching upon

         3       what I believe is a legislative prerogative.

         4                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Senator, I

         5       have no -- I've no problem in saying that that's

         6       a legislative prerogative, and we're often

         7       engaged in debates with your colleagues, usually

         8       with Senator Wright, that we should not impinge

         9       on administrative functions.

        10                      I agree.  I think that it is

        11       appropriate for the Legislature to do this.

        12       That doesn't mean -- that doesn't mean that it

        13       makes sense, and I -- I -- while Senator Daly

        14       and I were really engaged in a sort of a narrow

        15       point because I -- and I think an important

        16       point, as usual, we've managed to confuse

        17       anybody, including ourselves, but I wanted to

        18       narrow the broader aspect of this, which is that

        19       what you have now is that, under some

        20       circumstances usually as a result of a DEC

        21       requirement, usually it's a regulation, the very

        22       thing that makes Senator Wright shiver and

        23       uncomfortable, you have a New York business that











                                                             
5318

         1       has reduced its emissions and, therefore, could

         2       be considered to have a credit which it could

         3       transfer under -- under federal law under some

         4        -- under some circumstances.

         5                      That credit is created solely

         6       because DEC has taken some actions and we've

         7       required that business -- well, I guess I could

         8        -- I could see some situation where the

         9       business does it on its own -- may decide on its

        10       own to put in scrubbers, although it's not

        11       required and, therefore, its emissions are less

        12       than the federal requirement, but there's still

        13       a -- there's still then an issue or question

        14       whether you want that transferred or whether you

        15       want to use that for the benefit -- in some

        16       other respects for the benefit of the people of

        17       the state of New York.

        18                      I would -- I would -- I would

        19       submit to you that we -- that we again, when

        20       there's an overall reduction in pollution, not

        21       only in New York State but if we transfer some

        22       of those emission rights to Ohio, where plants

        23       are emitting pollutions that create acid rain











                                                             
5319

         1       which is affecting New York State -

         2                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

         3       this does not involve acid rain.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         5       Skelos.

         6                      SENATOR SKELOS:  This does not

         7       involve acid rain.  So we shouldn't get into

         8       Ohio and Indiana.  This does not involve acid

         9       rain.

        10                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  O.K.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        12       Leichter.

        13                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  It does

        14       involve transfer of emission credits which allow

        15       some other companies somewhere else in this

        16       country to engage in activities that create

        17       pollution.  That pollution can have an effect

        18       here in -- in New York State.

        19                      I think the whole idea that

        20       you're going to create, that you allow a

        21       trans... you allow somebody who is really doing

        22       what is a benefit to the people, to gain a

        23       benefit which is loud to be transferred to











                                                             
5320

         1       somebody else to do something which is harmful

         2       to people, I have difficulty in understanding

         3       why you would want to do it, and even if you

         4       want to do it, at the very least, as I pointed

         5       out, I think you ought to protect the people of

         6       the state of New York against somebody taking

         7       advantage of this and then closing down their

         8       shop.

         9                      For these reasons and, as Senator

        10       Gold rightly pointed out, DEC and EPL have urged

        11       that we vote against it.  I don't think it's

        12       beneficial.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        14       the last section.

        15                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Mr.

        16       President.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Oh,

        18       Senator Dollinger.  Don't read the last

        19       section.

        20                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Yes.  Would

        21       Senator Skelos yield to a question.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        23       Skelos, would you yield to a question from











                                                             
5321

         1       Senator Dollinger?

         2                      SENATGOR DOLLINGER:  Senator, I

         3       must admit I'm going through this for the first

         4       time and having some difficulty with this.  As I

         5       understand this, in the case of a closure or

         6       discontinuance of operations, these credits

         7       which are created by the, my understanding is by

         8       the federal Clean Air Act, is that correct,

         9       these credits would then go into the state to be

        10       banked for purposes that the state Environmental

        11       Conservation has set out in the regulations, is

        12       that correct?

        13                      SENATOR SKELOS:  That would be

        14       under the proposed regulations.

        15                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Just so I

        16       better understand this concept of asset, what

        17       would happen if the company went bankrupt? Is

        18       this considered an asset of the bankrupt

        19       corporation?

        20                      SENATOR SKELOS:  I would say they

        21       would be considered an asset of the

        22       corporation.

        23                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  And if the











                                                             
5322

         1       company either went bankrupt or went out of

         2       business, Senator, through you, Mr. President,

         3       if you will yield for another question.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         5       Skelos, you are still yielding?

         6                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Yes.

         7                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  If either of

         8       those two things happened, the credits would be

         9       available as an asset of the company to be sold

        10       either in bankruptcy or at the time of the

        11       discontinuance of the business.

        12                      SENATOR SKELOS:  I believe so,

        13       yes.

        14                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  O.K. I -- I'm

        15       somewhat troubled, Mr. President, if I could

        16       just speak on the bill for a minute.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  On the

        18       bill, Senator Dollinger.

        19                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Whether this

        20       is really an asset, it seems to me these credits

        21       create -- are really a creation of government.

        22       They are established under the Clean Air Act.

        23       We give the assets.  We -- and by "we" I mean











                                                             
5323

         1       government, the federal government has created

         2       the asset in this instance, and I'm not so sure

         3       its functions under the same asset portfolio

         4       that you would think of in the normal business.

         5       This is something that government has created, a

         6       right that government has created and,

         7       therefore, it has, at least in my judgment, a

         8       different treatment as far as the general asset

         9       of a company would go, and although I'm,

        10       frankly, still not sure I fully understand how

        11       all this works, I think that that's important to

        12       understand in the overall unraveling of this,

        13       that there's a different type of asset.

        14                      This is not something the company

        15       had prior to the Clean Air Act and, therefore,

        16       perhaps the state government could manage it

        17       better.  I must admit to being still a bit

        18       confused, Mr. President, but I've got a minute

        19       or so to wrap that up.

        20                      Thank you.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        22       Oppenheimer.

        23                      SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:  I think, on











                                                             
5324

         1       the bill, because I am somewhat confused too,

         2       but if the -- if New York State has first rights

         3       to the -- these credits, and they do not indeed,

         4       I think there's a concept behind not having to

         5       pay the corporation that will be leaving the

         6       state and, therefore, taking jobs and their

         7       assets out of the state.

         8                      It's one way for New York State

         9       to amass additional credits which are necessary

        10       for us to meet the federal Clean Air Act and a

        11       way for us to accumulate these credits without

        12       spending a great deal of money in order to

        13       comply with the laws which you suggested we

        14       should be doing.

        15                      We should be spending state money

        16       to acquire these credits from the corporations

        17       leaving New York State.  I say that would

        18       probably hinder our efforts as a government to

        19       try to meet the Clean Air Act because of the

        20       costs that would be involved in buying these

        21       credits from the corporations leaving New York

        22       State.

        23                      Another thing that concerns me











                                                             
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         1       that always has, is the selling of the credits

         2       which is the other option.  If these credits are

         3       to be sold, it would make me much more

         4       comfortable with a provision that said they

         5       should be sold to New York State corporations

         6       and not to corporations that are outside of our

         7       state, do no benefit to our state and only have

         8       the prevailing winds drift the pollution back to

         9       us.

        10                      So those are two points I'd like

        11       to make.  I concur that this is not a good bill,

        12       and I would suggest that those who are concerned

        13       with us meeting the requirements of the federal

        14       Clean Air Act vote in opposition to this bill,

        15       as I will.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        17       the last section.

        18                      SENATOR GOLD:  Last section.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        22       the roll.

        23                      (The Secretary called the roll. )











                                                             
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         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Those recorded in

         2       the negative on Calendar Number 800 are Senators

         3       Connor, Dollinger, Espada, Gold, Goodman,

         4       LaValle, Leichter, Ohrenstein, Onorato,

         5       Oppenheimer and Waldon.  Ayes 41, nays 11.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         7       bill is passed.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       971, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

        10       Bill Number 5709.

        11                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay aside for the

        12       day, please.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        14       aside.  Yes.  Do you want that aside for the

        15       day, Senator Present?

        16                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay it aside

        17       for the day.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        19       aside for the day.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        21       1051, by Senator Sears, Senate Bill Number

        22       5754-A, in relation to the payment of a

        23       judgment.











                                                             
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         1                      SENATOR GOLD:  Explanation.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

         3       Explanation.  Senator Sears.

         4                      SENATOR SEARS:  Yes.  As you

         5       know, Mr. President, we debated this bill at

         6       length the other day and, at the suggestion of

         7       Senator Gold, I have amended the bill so that it

         8       leaves no doubt as to what the Comptroller is to

         9       compute if Jane Doe dies before the expiration

        10       of her five and one half years of life

        11       expectancy which is what is expected to happen

        12       because, since the trial of last year, recent

        13       laboratory tests show a marked decline in Jane

        14       Doe's immune system which caused the doctor who

        15       testified at her earlier trial to modify his

        16       prognosis and tragically predict Mrs. Doe's

        17       death in late 1995 or '96.

        18                      Now, what this bill does is to

        19       substitute our judgment as representatives of

        20       the people of the state of New York for that of

        21       our Attorney General in this lawsuit and demand

        22       that Jane Doe's estate be paid the full amount

        23       of the damage award, no matter when she dies.











                                                             
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         1                      As the situation stands now, the

         2       sooner she dies, the more money the defendant

         3       saves.  A vote for this bill says that the

         4       defendant in this case will not profit by its

         5       own wrongful conduct and that Jane Doe's

         6       children will get something to ease the pain of

         7       watching the early and tragic death of their

         8       mother caused by the outrageous and

         9       unconscionable conduct of two correction

        10       officers.

        11                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        13       Gold.

        14                      SENATOR GOLD:  Yeah.  First of

        15       all, I'm -- I'm glad that Senator Sears amended

        16       the bill because, while I think the idea is

        17       really very dangerous and very wrong, I respect

        18       Senator Sears.  I respect what he's trying to do

        19       and I didn't think it would be fair if this

        20       chamber voted to do something and it turned out

        21       that it couldn't be done.  So that issue is

        22       taken care of.

        23                      This is a very, very, very











                                                             
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         1       dangerous piece of legislation and someone

         2       agrees with me.  It's dangerous, it's dangerous

         3       because the members of the majority in this

         4       house and others have decided that there ought

         5       to be structured settlements in order to save

         6       taxpayer money -- taxpayers -- the people who

         7       the other side of the aisle are constantly

         8       lecturing this side of the aisle about.

         9                      Thank you. We don't need your

        10       lectures.  This bill is an anti-taxpayer bill is

        11       exactly what it is.  I wish this woman all the

        12       life and particularly painless life that anyone

        13       could wish somebody.  I don't want this woman to

        14       suffer.  I don't want her to die but the concept

        15       of the structured settlement is that she will be

        16       paid during the period of time that she is alive

        17       for whatever pain and suffering she has while

        18       she's alive.

        19                      Senator Sears is not giving her

        20       and her family their due.  He is giving them a

        21       gift, way in excess of what the pain and

        22       suffering is.  That's what this bill does.  Now,

        23       throughout our system of law, we have











                                                             
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         1       circumstance after circumstance where we do not

         2       allow family members to bring lawsuits for other

         3       people's pain and suffering and for other

         4       people's circumstances.

         5                      If, God forbid, someone has an

         6       injured child, I know of such a case, a young

         7       child was hit by an automobile at a young age

         8       and a beautiful young man is getting along in

         9       life but he has some disabilities.  Those

        10       parents every day of their lives live with

        11       that.  They take him to and from school.  They

        12       do these things.  The law does not provide for

        13       them to get a penny.

        14                      When Senator Sears says it would

        15       be nice so that this woman would have something

        16       to leave to her family, it would be nice to be

        17       able to leave something to their family.  My

        18       arguments here are not heartless arguments.  We

        19       have -- I am not trying to take away anything

        20       from this woman or her family.  I'm trying to

        21       remind this chamber what you have voted for and

        22       what you have created.

        23                      You created a system where people











                                                             
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         1       who are injured by the state -- and this woman

         2       was injured by the state; that has been a

         3       finding -- that these people will be paid and

         4       compensated but that we will not give away

         5       balloons of the taxpayers' money.

         6                      If, God forbid, this woman were

         7       to die early, we would, in effect, be giving a

         8       few million dollars to this family.  That goes

         9       beyond the woman's medical, beyond her out of

        10       pocket, beyond her pain and suffering.  Well, I

        11       don't know.  I mean I don't know.  There are

        12       bills on the calendar that some people tell me

        13       are one-house bills.  There are some of you

        14       wanted an extra $500,000 for your community, but

        15       it's not really bargained out and people say,

        16       where do you get the money?

        17                      There are bills on the calendar

        18       where you need roads taken over by the state or

        19       bridges.  You can't get those negotiated with

        20       the Assembly and you're talking about giving

        21       away millions of dollars here as a gift and

        22       that's what it is.

        23                      The circumstances of this case











                                                             
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         1       are a tragedy.  They are a disaster.  There are

         2       61 members in this house.  I will sign an

         3       affidavit that no one has a larger and a bigger

         4       and a finer heart than Senator Sears.  He

         5       absolutely means well, and I admire him for it.

         6       But what we are being asked to do is just

         7       wrong.

         8                      The majority in this house

         9       suggested during court reform that we should get

        10       rid of pain and suffering or at least cap it.

        11       You want to put a cap on it.  Now, please, you

        12       can't be telling me that you would cap pain and

        13       suffering in the private sector, but since

        14       governments have so much money, we are not going

        15       to put a cap on it in these situations.

        16                      The bill makes no sense.  I was

        17       hoping, to tell you the truth, that when I

        18       suggested the amendment to Senator Sears, maybe

        19       the bill would have faded away and we wouldn't

        20       have to bring this to a vote because I look

        21       around this room.  I see good people in this

        22       room and good people have hearts that go out to

        23       other people, but we're being asked to do











                                                             
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         1       something which is governmentally, I believe,

         2       terrible.  Terrible.

         3                      We are not making up a deficiency

         4       for someone who got underpaid.  We are not

         5       correcting a pension system for someone whose

         6       papers were lost.  We are being asked to make a

         7       lump sum payment to someone which unquestionably

         8       will turn out to be a gift of taxpayer money.

         9                      I've made my case.  I don't know

        10       what else to say.  I think it is a bad law.

        11       It's the old story of bad cases make bad law.

        12       This is one of the classics.

        13                      I would have hoped that it didn't

        14       come back.  It shouldn't come back.  It's here.

        15       I reluctantly will vote against it.  I don't

        16       think there's anything else you can really do if

        17       you respect the taxpayer wallet.  Those of you

        18       who vote against it, I look you in the eye and I

        19       appreciate where your heart is, but I think it's

        20       the wrong place to put your heart.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        22       Solomon was next.

        23                      Senator Solomon.











                                                             
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         1                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Thank you, Mr.

         2       President.

         3                      Will Senator Sears yield, please?

         4       Mr. President.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         6       Sears, would you yield to Senator Solomon.

         7                      SENATOR SEARS:  Yes.

         8                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Senator, in the

         9       past, haven't you voted for a cap on pain and

        10       suffering?

        11                      SENATOR SEARS:  Excuse me?

        12                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Senator, have

        13       you voted for caps on pain and suffering in the

        14       past, 250-?

        15                      SENATOR SEARS:  I believe I have,

        16       yes.

        17                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Mr. President,

        18       will the Senator yield for one other question?

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Would

        20       you yield for another question?

        21                      SENATOR SEARS:  Yes.

        22                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Senator, at a

        23       certain time of year in the Jewish faith we











                                                             
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         1       celebrate the holiday of Passover, and one of

         2       the questions -- the four questions that the

         3       youngest people ask is why is this night

         4       different than other nights, and I'd like to ask

         5       a question along those lines, Senator: Why does

         6       this individual deserve special treatment from

         7       all the other individuals that have received

         8       suits under egregious circumstances against the

         9       state where the state was woefully at fault that

        10       may have had their lives may have been shortened

        11       and, in fact, prognosis may have changed? Why

        12       should this person be treated differently?

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        14       Sears.

        15                      SENATOR SEARS:  Senator, have you

        16       ever seen anybody die of AIDS?

        17                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Yes.

        18                      SENATOR SEARS:  Day by day?

        19                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Yes.

        20                      SENATOR SEARS:  The final week or

        21       two?

        22                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Yes.

        23                      SENATOR SEARS:  Or months, when











                                                             
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         1       they deteriorate to practically not, don't know

         2       where they're at, wish they were somewhere else,

         3       because they're going to die from a disease that

         4       they had not to do with contracting in this

         5       case.

         6                      Yes, this is different, Senator,

         7       very, very different and those children, I

         8       think, are deserving of something for the pain

         9       and the suffering that they will go through

        10       during that period of time when they watch their

        11       mother die.

        12                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Thank you.

        13                      On the bill, Mr. President.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        15       Solomon on the bill.

        16                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  I'm glad that

        17       Senator Sears just declared a new area for us to

        18       look at, so if in the future any resident of

        19       this state gets AIDS and the state is found at

        20       fault in that case, special legislation should

        21       be passed to help that individual.  So we set a

        22       new standard legislatively in the case of AIDS

        23       for any individuals that receive it as a result











                                                             
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         1       of the negligence of the state of New York, and

         2       I think that's the very point, because I've also

         3       seen people that have become quadriplegics at

         4       the fault of this state, and the miserable life

         5       they must live.

         6                      I've also seen many other cases

         7       where torts have resulted in horrible

         8       circumstances.  What we've done is set a new

         9       standard.  If you from now on, Senator, and I

        10       hope you -- if there's ever any additional

        11       situation would, in fact, introduce legislation

        12       or support that legislation and convince your

        13       colleagues that, if it happened to someone in

        14       New York City, in my district or Senator

        15       Waldon's district or Senator Onorato's district,

        16       if it was a poor nurse aide in New York City who

        17       developed AIDS as a result of the negligence of

        18       state government, that they would be able to get

        19       the same relief in this house as this individual

        20       is getting.

        21                      But the fact of the matter is

        22       we're setting a standard for only one

        23       individual.  We should be doing it across the











                                                             
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         1       board, and that's the problem with this piece of

         2       legislation.  I have no problem with this

         3       individual getting this relief, but that's not

         4       the current law for every other individual

         5       that's been injured as a result of the

         6       negligence in this state, and that's what's

         7       unfair, an individual bill introduced which, in

         8       fact, eliminates every other person that's been

         9       injured as a result of the negligence in this

        10       state, and I think that's the problem with this

        11       legislation.

        12                      Thank you.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        14       the last section.

        15                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Mr.

        16       President.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Oh,

        18       Senator Dollinger.

        19                      Senator Dollinger, you want to

        20       speak?

        21                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Mr.

        22       President, I thought you had one speaker before

        23       me as well.











                                                             
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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  I

         2       didn't see him, whoever he was.

         3                      SENATOR GOLD:  Senator

         4       Dollinger.

         5                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Mr.

         6       President, I spoke against this bill the first

         7       time we took a look at it, and I think I have to

         8       respond to Senator Sears' comment because I want

         9       everybody in this chamber to recognize that -

        10       two of the premises to this bill, and I

        11       understand the good intentions from which it

        12       springs.

        13                      I don't doubt those for a second

        14       and I -- I clearly have sympathy for this

        15       particular person, but I think it's important to

        16       recognize, Mr. President, that there was no

        17       mistake in this verdict.  The verdict rendered

        18       by the court said, I anticipate that you're

        19       going to live 5.5 years and during that 5.5-year

        20       period of time, you are going to sustain $3.5

        21       million worth of damage because that life span

        22       is worth that amount of money.

        23                      If the court had said, You're











                                                             
5340

         1       going to live 10 years, I dare say it would have

         2       rendered a different verdict. The verdict

         3       wouldn't be 3.5 million; it would be something

         4       substantially more because the period of pain

         5       and suffering would be greater as well.

         6                      But under our law, the court also

         7       didn't have to say, by the way, if you only live

         8       two and a half years, we're going to cut the

         9       money down because, because of the periodic

        10       payment rule, it was paid over 5.5 years in a

        11       structured settlement.  If you only live two and

        12       a half years, you're going to get all that you

        13       would be entitled to for the pain and suffering

        14       in that two and a half-year period.

        15                      So by operation of law, this

        16       court created and, by operation of law that we

        17       approved the structured settlement and by

        18       operation of the facts in this case, the court

        19       took care of the instance of where the life

        20       expectancy, the full life that this person would

        21       live, would be less than 5.5 years.

        22                      That's critical, Mr. President,

        23       because, if this woman does live less than 5.5











                                                             
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         1       years, and I understand that Senator Sears has

         2       information that that may not be the case

         3       regrettably, she will not live her life

         4       expectancy but, if she doesn't, she will be

         5       fully compensated for the -- by the state of New

         6       York for our negligence, for what we caused.

         7       She will be fully compensated for however long

         8       she lived.  If you have calculated it at

         9       $750,000 a year which is roughly what this court

        10       did, she's going to be paid a million and a half

        11       dollars for the two years that she lives.  If

        12       she lives another year, she'll get $750,000

        13       more.  It's spread out over time.  If the time

        14       limit shrinks she will get every penny that she

        15       is entitled to, and that's another critical

        16       mistake that we ought to recognize in this bill,

        17       that Senator Sears is correct what he's seeking

        18       to do here is to compensate the family for the

        19       pain and suffering of their mother and recognize

        20       that that is probably the most liberal

        21       interpretation of the common law in this state.

        22                      Throughout our history, the Court

        23       of Appeals has recognized that the bystander who











                                                             
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         1       witnesses the damage-causing event is not

         2       entitled to compensation because we draw a

         3       line.  If you're injured by the negligent party,

         4       you are compensated but your loved ones are not,

         5       and the reason why we draw that line is because

         6       we want to be able to confine the exposure and

         7       the risk.

         8                      When the example that's used when

         9       everyone who is an attorney goes to law school,

        10       is someone who gets struck in downtown Manhattan

        11       by a car, everyone looks at this horrible

        12       accident, everyone in the building or everyone

        13       on the street could walk in and say, I watched

        14       someone die in front of my face; I'm entitled to

        15       compensation.

        16                      We in this state have drawn a

        17       line in our common law which says we do not

        18       recognize those claims for pain and suffering by

        19       bystanders, by onlookers, even if they may well

        20       be members of a family.

        21                      So recognize that we are not

        22       correcting a mistake in this verdict, and we are

        23       radically changing in this one instance, we are











                                                             
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         1       radically changing the common law in this

         2       state.

         3                      The other comment that I made

         4       beforehand which just bears quickly repeating,

         5       we are not an appellate court.  Our job is not

         6       to intervene in verdicts which I think were

         7       properly rendered and will fully compensate this

         8       woman for the pain and suffering that she has to

         9       endure.  We are opening the door, in my

        10       judgment, to a slew of these types of

        11       applications, to all the members of this body as

        12       well as the Assembly to walk in and say, we feel

        13       that the justice system has not done us right.

        14       We want you to correct it; we want you to give

        15       money from the taxpayers to correct a perceived

        16       inequity.

        17                      I submit to you, my colleagues,

        18       this is no inequity in this statute.  In this

        19       case, this woman will be fully compensated for

        20       her pain and suffering.  The comment that

        21       Senator Gold made, we are giving a gift of

        22       millions of taxpayer dollars to a family that is

        23       enduring an unspeakable tragedy, but one that,











                                                             
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         1       under our system of law, they are not entitled

         2       to compensation for and one which we will open

         3       our door, frankly, to all kinds of claims in the

         4       future.

         5                      I would urge that, for this

         6       respect for our common law, for our system of

         7       law, for the system that produced this, what

         8       appears to be a fair and equitable verdict that

         9       we not tamper with this case and that we vote

        10       no.

        11                      SENATOR GOLD:  Slow roll call.

        12                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Mr.

        13       President.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Is it

        15        -- Senator Connor.

        16                      SENATOR CONNOR:  Thank you, Mr.

        17       President.

        18                      Mr. President, I won't reiterate

        19       what I said a week or two ago about this bill,

        20       but I want to remind my colleagues that it's the

        21       majority in this house, by and large, that year

        22       after year has brought up piecemeal attempts at,

        23       quote, "reform", unquote, of the tort laws and











                                                             
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         1       most of the majority members in this house have

         2       supported in the past bills that would put an

         3       absolute cap on pain and suffering.

         4                      There have been different ones

         5       proposed, 150,000, 150 now.  I remind you, if

         6       your bill had become law, we wouldn't be talking

         7       about $750,000 a year times five years; we

         8       wouldn't be talking about $3 million in pain and

         9       suffering even in this tragic, terrible

        10       situation that Senator Sears has called to our

        11       attention.  We'd be talking about, take your

        12       hundred thousand or 150,000 and take a walk, no

        13       matter how long you live.  If you suffer for 30

        14       years, that's what you get.  That's what you've

        15       proposed, you in the majority, and I've opposed

        16       it.

        17                      The rationale for your caps and

        18       limits has always been it costs too much.  It

        19       costs the taxpayers too much; it costs the

        20       insurance carriers and businesses.  It costs the

        21       tortfeasors too much.  It inhibits business.  It

        22       causes us to have to raise taxes to pay

        23       judgments.  It discourages business because of











                                                             
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         1       the cost of insurance and the liability.

         2                      Well, I submit to you, that when

         3       you proposed those laws, you were covering

         4       thousands of tragic cases and maybe it's easier

         5       to do when you do that, because it's all being

         6       done theoretically in big numbers.  It's

         7       faceless, the cap for pain and suffering you

         8       impose on suffering, faceless, suffering

         9       citizens of New York.

        10                      But when you have a face or a

        11       name, albeit Jane Doe or when you have a

        12       particular person in mind, Aah, what a grave

        13       injustice.  Well, think about what you would

        14       have done in the past in this case.  You would

        15       have said, "Senator Sears, take a hike, she gets

        16       the hundred thousand dollars, she gets $150,000,

        17       that's it," no matter what the suffering.

        18                      And you passed the law for

        19       structured settlements, and you know what?

        20       There was logic to that though, because it

        21       became very controversial that a court, at the

        22       present time, has to compute an estimate of

        23       future pain and suffering, and I remember the











                                                             
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         1       proponents of this structured settlement saying

         2       well, you know, the court uses its best estimate

         3       and it says, well, you know, persons facing 20

         4       years of pain, facing the actual 20 years, you

         5       reduce the actual amount you structured it so

         6       you will get the amount for the time you

         7       actually suffer and experience pain, but you

         8       won't get it for the fictional life expectancy

         9       time thereafter.

        10                      And now you're up against your

        11       first real case where a face with a name on it,

        12       with a Senator to get up and represent it and

        13       you're going to pass this special legislation.

        14       I don't understand it.  We should have a tort

        15       law for all the citizens of New York State.

        16       People, when you -- when you change these tort

        17       laws, of course, people are going to experience

        18       losses, but I mean do we really want to set up a

        19       system where all 61 Senators feel that, in order

        20       to do our job, we have to reach out in our

        21       district and come up, reach out.

        22                      Once a bill like this passes and

        23       gets some publicity, they'll reach out for us











                                                             
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         1       and the personal injury lawyers will reach out

         2       for us and I'll get a call from someone who will

         3       say, "Senator Connor, I got a case will break

         4       your heart," and it will break your heart just

         5       like this case will break your heart.

         6                      People really get injured in

         7       fight torts.  You talking about court reform?

         8       People really get hurt, real people get hurt,

         9       real families experience loss, and we deal with

        10       it by law, and we're all going to get calls from

        11       constituents, personal injury lawyers who

        12       represent our constituents, saying, "I got one

        13       for you this year, Senator." This will break

        14       your heart.  This will have your colleagues

        15       weeping in the aisles.  Just pass this bill

        16       because if you don't, somebody will be out a

        17       million or two.

        18                      Is that how you want to deal; is

        19       that tort reform? Is that how you want to deal

        20       with personal injury in New York State because,

        21       if you start doing bills like this, one you have

        22       no credibility, none whatsoever, when you

        23       propose the bills for your court reform that are











                                                             
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         1       an annual event from the Majority in this house

         2       and the rationale you use for them applies

         3       directly towards the defeat of this bill.

         4                      It's a very, very bad thing.

         5       It's a tragic case, but they're all tragic

         6       cases, some more than others depending on the

         7       proximity to it.  I have told the story of the

         8       man who showed up over in the park a few weeks

         9       ago, threw his arms around me.  Because of a

        10       question of law, his lawyer missed a deadline,

        11       he lost a $6 million judgment.  He's really

        12       injured; you take one look at him; he hasn't

        13       worked in years.

        14                      Can I pass a bill saying, let's

        15       forget about that 30-day time to appeal,

        16       whatever it was, the appeal remittitur and give

        17       him back his 6 million or let him go in front of

        18       another jury and get another shot at it? Why

        19       not? He suffers.  He was wrongfully injured. He

        20       and his family have needs for that money to pay

        21       medical bills, and they have a better place to

        22       live and facilities that will accommodate his

        23       injuries and his present disabilities.











                                                             
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         1                      And you know, you all have

         2       constituents like that and, if you're doing your

         3       job as well as Senator Sears, if you pass this

         4       bill for Senator Sears, you'd better start

         5       sponsoring bills for your constituents, and we

         6       better start passing them year after year after

         7       year.  We probably should set aside a whole

         8       month each year to pass those kinds of bills.

         9                      I have to vote no, not because

        10       this woman, she got compensation, not because

        11       her case isn't heart rending.  But remember her

        12       economic loss is compensated; her pain and

        13       suffering are compensated, compensated much

        14       better than you all who have proposed caps would

        15       have compensated her; so I intend to vote no.

        16                      SENATOR GOLD:  Slow roll call.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Slow

        18       roll call asked for.  Do I see five standing?

        19       Yeah.  Slow roll.  Ring the bell.

        20                      Read the last section first, I

        21       guess.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        23       act shall take effect immediately.











                                                             
5351

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Slow

         2       roll call.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Babbush

         4       excused.

         5                      Senator Bruno.  Senator Bruno.

         6                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Yes.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Connor.

         8                      SENATOR CONNOR:  No.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Cook.

        10                      (There was no response. )

        11                      Senator Daly.

        12                      SENATOR DALY:  No.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator

        14       DeFrancisco.

        15                      SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:  Explain my

        16       vote.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        18       DeFrancisco to explain his vote.

        19                      SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:  I think

        20       this case points up the problem of -- that we're

        21       going to be experiencing on a much broader basis

        22       when we're talking about so-called tort reform.

        23       I think when you -- it was mentioned before and











                                                             
5352

         1       I think it's an excellent point, and it's very

         2       difficult when there is a face associated with a

         3       verdict to say no to somebody when they're

         4       unjustly treated, because of a law that we

         5       pass.  I think that it's very clear having dealt

         6       with many of these cases that when you put a cap

         7       on something or even Article 50-b, which is

         8       almost impossible to administer in the courts,

         9       you're placing these artificial restrictions on

        10       verdicts when all of the facts are being

        11       considered by not only the court and the jury

        12       but also on appeal as happened in this

        13       particular case.

        14                      So I think, in this case,

        15       although it's a very compelling argument to be

        16       consistent with what the law is applying to

        17       everybody else in this state, I have to vote no,

        18       but I would hope that, in viewing this important

        19       case, that we could be very careful as to the

        20       so-called tort reform that we're all going to be

        21       talking about in the future to make sure that

        22       there's not more of these Jane Does that we're

        23       causing by way of something that sounds good in











                                                             
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         1       the abstract, but doesn't work well in

         2       practice.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  He

         4       votes in the negative.

         5                      SENATOR SEARS:  Lay the bill

         6       aside, please.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay the

         8       bill aside.  You've got to excuse me.  Let's

         9       withdraw the roll call on that bill, and we'll

        10       lay it aside.

        11                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Mr. President.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        13       Solomon.

        14                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  Yes.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Why do

        16       you rise?

        17                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  I'd like to

        18       have unanimous consent to be recorded in the

        19       negative on Calendar Number 800.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  800,

        21       Senator Solomon is in the negative without

        22       objection.

        23                      Senator Levy.











                                                             
5354

         1                      SENATOR LEVY:  Yes, I was out,

         2       I'd like unanimous consent to be recorded in the

         3       negative on Calendar Number 800.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  800,

         5       Senator Levy is in the negative.

         6                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         8       Gold.

         9                      SENATOR GOLD:  Yeah, with the

        10       consent of the Senate Majority Leader, go to

        11       motions and resolutions.  On behalf of Senator

        12       Montgomery, call up 4129-A.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        14       Secretary will read Senator Montgomery's bill.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator

        16       Montgomery, Senate bill 4129-A, an act to amend

        17       the Labor Law.

        18                      SENATOR GOLD:  I move to

        19       reconsider the vote by which the bill was

        20       passed.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        22       the roll on reconsideration.

        23                      (The Secretary called the roll on











                                                             
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         1       reconsideration. )

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         4       Gold.

         5                      SENATOR GOLD:  Yeah, move the

         6       following amendments, offer them, waive their

         7       reading, ask the bill retain its place on third

         8       reading.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        10       bill will retain its place on the Third Reading

        11       Calendar.  Amendments are received.

        12                      Senator Sheffer.

        13                      SENATOR SHEFFER:  Mr. President,

        14       I'd like to remove a sponsor's star on Calendar

        15       753, Senate Print 3321.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  753,

        17       the star is removed.

        18                      Senator Saland.

        19                      SENATOR SALAND:  Mr. President, I

        20       move to call up my bill, Print Number 3383-A,

        21       recalled from the Assembly.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        23       Secretary will read Senator Saland's bill.  It











                                                             
5356

         1       wasn't recalled.  Was it? Hold it up for just a

         2       second.

         3                      SENATOR SALAND:  Yes, it was.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator

         5       Saland, Senate Bill Number 3383-A, an act to

         6       amend the Social Services Law.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         8       Saland.

         9                      SENATOR SALAND:  Mr. President, I

        10       move to reconsider the vote by which this bill

        11       was passed and ask it be restored to third

        12       reading.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        14       the roll on reconsideration.

        15                      (The Secretary called the roll on

        16       reconsideration. )

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        19       bill is before the house.  You want it restored

        20       to third reading?

        21                      SENATOR SALAND:  Mr. President, I

        22       move to discharge from the Committee on Rules

        23       Assembly Print 8231 and substitute it for my











                                                             
5357

         1       identical bill.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

         3       Substitution is ordered.  Read the last section

         4       of the bill.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         6       act shall take effect immediately.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         8       the roll.

         9                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Unanimous.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                      Senator Nolan.

        14                      SENATOR NOLAN:  Now, let me see.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        16       Nolan? Senator Kuhl.

        17                      SENATOR KUHL:  Yes, Mr.

        18       President.  May I have unanimous consent to be

        19       recorded in the negative on Calendar Number 625,

        20       please?

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  625,

        22       Senator Kuhl is in the negative.

        23                      SENATOR KUHL:  Thank you.











                                                             
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         1                      Are there any other housekeeping?

         2                      Senator Montgomery.

         3                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Yes, Mr.

         4       President.  I'd like unanimous consent to be

         5       recorded in the negative on Calendar Number 646.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  646.

         7                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Yes.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  646.

         9                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Yes.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        11       Montgomery is in the negative.  I thought it was

        12       646, she said.

        13                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Yes.  Got

        14       it?

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        16       Galiber.

        17                      SENATOR GALIBER:  Mr. President,

        18       would you be kind enough to give me unanimous

        19       consent or ask for unanimous consent to be re

        20       corded in the negative on two bills, 800 and

        21       646.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  800 and

        23       646, Senator Galiber will be in the negative.











                                                             
5359

         1                      SENATOR GALIBER:  Thank you.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Seeing

         3       no one else on the floor except Senator Present,

         4       shall we continue the calendar.

         5                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Continue the

         6       calendar, please.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       1064, substituted earlier today, by member of

         9       the Assembly Pillittere, Assembly Bill Number

        10       2871-A, Environmental Conservation Law.

        11                      SENATOR GOLD:  Explanation.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        13       Explanation.  Senator Sheffer.

        14                      SENATOR SHEFFER:  Sure.

        15       Procedurally, the bill authorizes a one-day

        16       fishing license as an alternative to three, five

        17       or season.  The background to it, though, is

        18       that it's of enormous importance to a very

        19       active and valuable sector of our state tourism

        20       industry, the sport fishing industry or

        21       particularly charter boat captains.

        22                      SENATOR GOLD:  Will the Senator

        23       yield to a question?











                                                             
5360

         1                      SENATOR SHEFFER:  Sure.

         2                      SENATOR GOLD:  Senator, the

         3       Department of Environmental Conservation says

         4       that they have some concerns, which doesn't

         5       bother me, but the -- there's a memo from the

         6       New York State Town Clerks' Association.  Have

         7       you seen the memo?

         8                      SENATOR SHEFFER:  I haven't seen

         9       it, but I've heard about it.

        10                      SENATOR GOLD:  All right.  Well,

        11       Senator, I just wanted to give you the

        12       opportunity to comment about it.  They say

        13       they're opposed because the bill would allow

        14       persons other than the clerks to issue the

        15       licenses, resulting in a significant decrease in

        16       town issuing fees.  Under current law, they

        17       issue them all, and they are concerned that the

        18       town must absorb all of the costs, the

        19       recordkeeping, et cetera, but apparently they

        20       are losing money.

        21                      Is there -- has that been

        22       addressed at all in any of the amended versions?

        23                      SENATOR SHEFFER:  Yes.  Two











                                                             
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         1       points: One is that people, sports stores, other

         2       than clerks currently issue licenses.  There's

         3       no change in that structure at all and,

         4       secondly, it's just regarding the timing of it

         5       that largely what we're talking here is

         6       out-of-state visitors on the week ends, and this

         7       allows the charter boat captains to sell to

         8       their customers a one-day fishing license for

         9       that brief period of time that they're in town.

        10                      I think that that memo is

        11       incorrect as to what might be lost to town

        12       clerks regarding this program as a result of

        13       these two factors.  The bill did pass

        14       unanimously last year and passed the Assembly

        15       just about an hour ago.

        16                      SENATOR GOLD:  Last section.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        18       the last section of that bill.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        22       the roll.

        23                      (The Secretary called the roll. )











                                                             
5362

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         3       bill is passed.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         5       1069, by Senator Cook, Senate Bill Number 2275,

         6       Real Property -

         7                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay aside.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

         9       aside for the day, Senator Present?

        10                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Yes.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        12       1088, by Senator Stafford, Senate Bill Number

        13       4853, an act to amend the Environmental

        14       Conservation Law.

        15                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay aside.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        17       aside.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       1107, by Senator Levy, Senate Bill Number 1313,

        20       an act to amend the Penal Law.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        22       the last section.

        23                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Could we get











                                                             
5363

         1       an explanation?

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

         3       Explanation has been asked for.  Senator Levy.

         4                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay it aside.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

         6       aside.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       1126, by Senator Johnson, Senate Bill Number

         9       4830.

        10                      SENATOR GOLD:  One day, please.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  To provide

        12       retirement credit -

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        14       Johnson?

        15                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Lay it aside.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

        17       aside.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       1127, by Senator Levy, Senate Bill Number 4684.

        20                      SENATOR GOLD:  One day on that,

        21       please.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        23       aside, Senator Present?











                                                             
5364

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         2       1132, by Senator Seward, Senate Bill Number

         3       5229, an act to amend the Public Service Law.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         5       the last section.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         7       act shall take effect immediately.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         9       the roll.

        10                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50, nays 4,

        12       Senators Galiber, Leichter, Ohrenstein and

        13       Waldon recorded in the negative.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        15       bill is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1144, by member of the Assembly Rosado, Assembly

        18       Bill Number 7087, an act to amend the Mental

        19       Hygiene Law.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        21       the last section.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        23       act shall take effect immediately.











                                                             
5365

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         2       the roll.

         3                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         6       bill is passed.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       1159, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number

         9       2205, an act to amend the Penal Law, in relation

        10       to firearm licensees.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        12       Explanation.  Senator Skelos. Just a moment.

        13                      SENATOR SKELOS:  This bill amends

        14       Section 400 of the Penal Law.

        15                      SENATOR GOLD:  Will the Senator

        16       yield to one question?

        17                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Sure.

        18                      SENATOR GOLD:  Is this the same

        19       bill as last year, when Senators Connor,

        20       Galiber, myself, Leichter, Markowitz, Mendez,

        21       Montgomery, Ohrenstein, Paterson, Smith, Solomon

        22       and Waldon voted against it?

        23                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Yes, Senator.











                                                             
5366

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         2       the last section.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         4       act shall take effect immediately.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         6       the roll.

         7                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Those recorded in

         9       the negative on Calendar Number 1159 are

        10       Senators Connor, Espada, Gold, Leichter, Mendez,

        11       Montgomery, Ohrenstein and Solomon.  Ayes 46,

        12       nays 8.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        14       bill is passed.

        15                      SENATOR WALDON:  My hand is up.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1160, by Senator Spano, Senate Bill Number 2209,

        18       an act to amend the Retirement and Social

        19       Security Law.

        20                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Can we have an

        21       explanation?

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        23       Explanation has been asked for by someone.











                                                             
5367

         1                      SENATOR SPANO:  Mr. President,

         2       this bill -- this bill would grant the police

         3       officers and firefighters a minimum of five

         4       working days to respond to accidental disability

         5       retirement notification.

         6                      Currently, under the current

         7       process, police officers and firefighters are

         8       granted little or no notice between the day of

         9       notification and the date of retirement should

        10       they be injured in the performance of their

        11       duties.

        12                      SENATOR GOLD:  Yeah, Mr.

        13       President.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        15       Gold.

        16                      SENATOR GOLD:  Will you yield to

        17       one question?

        18                      SENATOR SPANO:  Sure.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        20       Spano will yield.

        21                      SENATOR GOLD:  I have a memo from

        22       the New York State Conference of Mayors and

        23       Municipal Officials in opposition, and there's a











                                                             
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         1       stamp with two words on it, it says "unfunded

         2       mandate".  Is this an unfunded mandate?

         3                      SENATOR SPANO:  I think the

         4       memorandum from the Conference of Mayors over

         5       states the problem.  There is no fiscal impact

         6       on the state of New York and in the bill

         7       itself.  There would be a small cost to the

         8       local governments, but I think they're over

         9       stating their opposition.

        10                      SENATOR GOLD:  Well, Senator

        11       Spano, if you would yield to one question.

        12                      SENATOR SPANO:  Sure.

        13                      SENATOR GOLD:  There is some -- I

        14       don't know, you know, they have people keep

        15       charts all the time; I don't know why they do it

        16       but on the chart where it says "Republican bills

        17       unfunded mandates," is this one of those that

        18       goes on the chart? Maybe a little bit of money,

        19       but is it a Republican unfunded mandate?

        20                      SENATOR SPANO:  I think this

        21       would go under the chart of all of us in this

        22       house, Republicans and Democrats, are making

        23       sure that our police officers and firefighters











                                                             
5369

         1       are given the ability to respond to an

         2       accidental disability retirement and -

         3                      SENATOR GOLD:  Well, will the

         4       Senator yield to a question?

         5                      SENATOR SPANO:  Sure.

         6                      SENATOR GOLD:  I know we have

         7       that column.

         8                      SENATOR SPANO:  That would be in

         9       that column; we're going to make that column.

        10                      SENATOR GOLD:  We have a column

        11       unfunded mandates with an asterisk.

        12                      SENATOR SPANO:  Yes, exception.

        13                      SENATOR GOLD:  So this is an

        14       unfunded mandate with an asterisk?

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        16       the last section.

        17                      Senator Leichter yield -- wishes

        18       you to yield, Senator Spano.

        19                      SENATOR SPANO:  Sure.

        20                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Senator Spano,

        21       I must have difficulty in understanding the

        22       basis for the bill and if you'd be so good as to

        23       explain it.  You're giving additional time to











                                                             
5370

         1       policemen and firefighters who retire on

         2       disability and specify the options that they

         3       have under their retirement system; is that it?

         4                      SENATOR SPANO:  Five days, yes.

         5                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  O.K. What I

         6       don't understand the reason you give is that

         7       these people may receive a notification, your

         8       disability request has been granted, and they

         9       will need, as you say, more than five days to

        10       put their affairs in order and decide which

        11       disability option to take; is that what this

        12       does?

        13                      SENATOR SPANO:  Many times a

        14       reasonable period of time is required prior to

        15       the actual retirement date because there are

        16       certain of their job-related affairs to get in

        17       order.

        18                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  But what I

        19       don't understand, Senator, and maybe you can

        20       answer, these people are applying for

        21       disability.  They feel that they're set to

        22       retire; they must feel that their application is

        23       going to be received.  Why wouldn't they, once











                                                             
5371

         1       having applied for disability, not make the

         2       arrangements that they need to be made so that

         3       when they receive the notification, they can act

         4       on it?

         5                      SENATOR SPANO:  Very often they

         6       do, Senator, take that into account and very

         7       often the -- their affairs are already placed in

         8       order, but there have been occasions where, in

         9       fact, that has not been the case, and that's why

        10       we would like to give them this five working

        11       days lead time to give them that ability.

        12                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  I must say I

        13       have difficulty understanding that, but let me

        14       ask you some other questions.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        16       Spano, will you yield to another question?

        17                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  If you would,

        18       please.

        19                      SENATOR SPANO:  Yes.

        20                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Can the same

        21       situation arise with employees covered by some

        22       public pension funds other than firefighters and

        23       police officers? May they also find themselvesin











                                                             
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         1       a situation, somebody works for OGS, drives

         2       their heavy equipment, and it flips over and

         3       he's injured and he applies for disability, does

         4       that person presently only have five days after

         5       the notification?

         6                      SENATOR SPANO:  The -- we have

         7       not heard from other employees whether or not

         8       that would be a specific problem to them, but if

         9       they do raise that, then we'll take a look at

        10       it.  Senator, I haven't heard from anyone else

        11       requesting the change.

        12                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Senator, it -

        13       if you would just answer this question, if it is

        14       not a problem for that operator of heavy

        15       equipment who works for OGS or the

        16       transportation department, why should it be a

        17       problem for police officers or firemen; what is

        18       it that you need through the function that they

        19       perform or their retirement, that they would

        20       need more than five days when other employees

        21       don't need more than five days?

        22                      SENATOR SPANO:  I'm not saying

        23       that it's not a problem for the other employees











                                                             
5373

         1        -- the other employees.  There may, in fact, be

         2       a problem.  The work -- what this legislation

         3       addresses is just the police and fire retirees,

         4       but we -- if it's a problem with the other

         5       employees, we may address that further.

         6                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Well, Mr.

         7       President, just briefly on the bill.

         8                      I first thank Senator Spano for

         9       his explanation.  First of all, I have

        10       difficulty in understanding why somebody who

        11       applies for disability is then -- and that

        12       disability is granted, he's not ready to act on

        13       it.  He's applying for it, and if it makes sense

        14       to firemen and police officers, it ought to make

        15       sense for other employees also.

        16                      Now, Senator Spano says, well,

        17       nobody has come to me.  Well, maybe when we put

        18       in bills of this sort, we have a positive

        19       obligation to find out if it is a problem.

        20                      SENATOR LACK:  Senator Leichter.

        21       Mr. President.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        23       Lack.











                                                             
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         1                      SENATOR LACK:  Yes, Senator

         2       Leichter, perhaps I could clear up this question

         3       for you.

         4                      There are special accidental

         5       disability procedures that are limited to

         6       firefighters and police officers.  In many

         7       cases, it takes months for this type of

         8       disability to be submitted.  In some cases,

         9       while the individual is submitting information,

        10       the individual isn't always the applicant that

        11       is involved.  The department could be because of

        12       some job-related injury or particularly if an

        13       officer has been shot in the line of duty or a

        14       firefighter burnt in the line of duty, might be

        15       in the hospital, might be recovering, disability

        16       information is submitted and conceivably,

        17       particularly if the officer has to make

        18       decisions as -- financial decisions, the officer

        19       or firefighter, after notification, this would

        20       give a five-day window.

        21                      In some cases, events that have

        22       taken police eight or nine months previous, but

        23       to go back to the original unfunded mandate











                                                             
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         1       question that came from the Conference of

         2       Mayors, that's a stamp printed on a piece of

         3       paper.  I can tell you it would cost more to

         4       stamp "unfunded mandate" on this piece of paper

         5       and distribute it in the Legislature than this

         6       so-called mandate is going to cost these

         7       municipalities.

         8                      What they're really ticked off

         9       about is extant law that allows municipal

        10       employees, such as firefighters to have

        11       disability retirement provisions in the whole -

        12       in the first place.  That, of course, is not at

        13       all involved here.  We're not trying to change

        14       those except to change a day of notification.  I

        15       understand their being miffed at those

        16       disability provisions being in the law, Senator

        17       Leichter, but the fact is that they are in the

        18       law and this isn't any more of an unfunded

        19       mandate than anything else.

        20                      These people, because of the ways

        21       in which this type of disability arises, deserve

        22       to be able to have that window of decision

        23       making when the time comes, particularly if











                                                             
5376

         1       they've been shot or burnt in the line of duty.

         2                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Mr. President,

         3       just one question to Senator Lack, and I -

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         5       Lack, would you yield for one question from

         6       Senator Leichter?

         7                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Have we

         8       allowed such disability provisions in the

         9       "heart" bill?

        10                      SENATOR LACK:  No, I don't think

        11       the "heart" bill acts directly in this context.

        12                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  All right.

        13       Thank you.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        15       the last section.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        19       the roll.

        20                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        23       bill is passed.











                                                             
5377

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         2       1165, by Senator Velella, Senate Bill Number

         3       3126.

         4                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay it aside

         5       for the day.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

         7       aside.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       1166, by Senator Velella.

        10                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay that aside

        11       for the day.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

        13       aside for today.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        15       1167, by Senator Sheffer, Senate Bill Number

        16       3374-A, an act to amend the Tax Law.

        17                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Explanation.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        19       Explanation.  Senator Sheffer.

        20                      SENATOR SHEFFER:  Senator, under

        21       current law, a manufacturer using petroleum

        22       products in the manufacture of tangible personal

        23       property, pays the supplemental petroleum











                                                             
5378

         1       business tax and then applies for a refund and

         2       they get it back, and this bill acknowledges

         3       that that's crazy, and that it gives them a lot

         4       of paperwork and aggravation that is unnecessary

         5       and it simply exempts them.

         6                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Explanation

         7       satisfactory.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

         9       Explanation satisfactory.  Read the last

        10       section.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 6.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        14       the roll.

        15                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 56.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        18       bill is passed.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        20       1172, by Senator Wright, Senate Bill Number

        21       4230-B, amends Chapter 266 of the Laws of 1854.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        23       the last -











                                                             
5379

         1                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Could we

         2       have a day on it?

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Could

         4       he have one day on it, Senator Wright?

         5                      SENATOR WRIGHT:  Lay it aside.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

         7       aside.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       1174, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number

        10       4433, an act to amend the Tax Law.

        11                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Explanation.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        13       Explanation.  Senator Skelos.

        14                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Who asked for

        15       the explanation?

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        17       Stachowski -- no, Senator Leichter was your -

        18       the person wanting it.

        19                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President.

        20       This bill simply corrects a technical omission

        21       recognized by the Tax Department of Chapter 166

        22       of the Laws of 1991 in relation to a reduced

        23       rate of tax on residual fuel oil.











                                                             
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         1                      Currently, greenhouse operators

         2       are exempted from the supplemental petroleum

         3       business tax if the fuel they are using to heat

         4       the greenhouses is Number 2 -- Number 2 oil

         5       which is diesel fuel.  However, if they burn

         6       Number 5 or Number 6 oil, they are not exempt

         7       because these residual fuel oils are not

         8       considered diesel fuel.  The bill is supported

         9       by the Farm Bureau.

        10                      Now, obviously it is unfair to

        11       allow a reduction for diesel fuel and not

        12       residual fuel when they are not being used for

        13       the same purpose.

        14                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Explanation is

        15       fine.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        17       Explanation is fine.  Read the last section.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        19       act shall take effect immediately.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        21       the roll.

        22                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 56.











                                                             
5381

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         2       bill is passed.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         4       1181, by Senator Hannon, Senate Bill Number

         5       4991, an act to amend the Tax Law.

         6                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Could we

         7       have a day on that, please?

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  One day

         9       on it, Senator Hannon? Lay it aside.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       1182, by Senator Hannon, Senate Bill Number

        12       5017.

        13                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Could we

        14       have one day on it?

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        16       Hannon, one day? Lay it aside.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        18       1183, by Senator Hannon, Senate Bill Number

        19       5332.

        20                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Could we

        21       have one day on that?

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Amends Chapter

        23       750 of the Laws of 1871.











                                                             
5382

         1                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay it aside.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

         3       aside for the day.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         5       1185, by Senator Masiello, Senate Bill Number

         6       5364, amends Chapter 824 of the Laws of 1933.

         7                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay it aside

         8       for the day, please.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Laid

        10       aside for the day.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        12       1187, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number

        13       5589, an act to amend the Executive Law.

        14                      SENATOR LACK:  Explanation.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        16       Explanation.  Senator Lack wishes an

        17       explanation.

        18                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Senator Lack,

        19       this legislation amends the Executive Law.  It

        20       increases the Green Thumb income eligibility

        21       levels according to the federal Social Security

        22       cost of living adjustment to 1993.  This

        23       increase will allow seniors to remain eligible











                                                             
5383

         1       for this worthwhile program.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         3       Lack.

         4                      SENATOR LACK:  Thank you, Mr.

         5       President.

         6                      I realize Senator Skelos has had

         7       a long afternoon.  While I have a lengthy list

         8       of questions on this bill, I won't go into them

         9       at this point, but I would like to, for all this

        10       support of the Green Thumb program, give Senator

        11       Skelos a thumbs up for good work done.

        12                      Last section, Mr. President.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        14       the last section.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        16       act shall take effect immediately.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        18       the roll.

        19                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 56.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        22       bill is passed.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number











                                                             
5384

         1       1191, by Senator Bruno, Senate Bill Number 5870,

         2       authorize the town of Clifton Park, Saratoga

         3       County -

         4                      SENATOR GOLD:  Could we have one

         5       day on the bill?

         6                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Yes, Senator

         7       Gold.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

         9       aside for the day.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       1192, by Senator Seward, Senate Bill Number

        12       58...

        13                      SENATOR GOLD:  One day.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Could

        15       they have one day, Senator Seward?

        16                      SENATOR SEWARD:  One day.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        18       aside.

        19                      There are a lot of motions on the

        20       floor I'm told, Senator Present.

        21                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Let's do them.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  I'm

        23       ready for motions.











                                                             
5385

         1                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  Mr. President.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         3       Stafford for a motion.

         4                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  On page 40, I

         5       offer the following amendments to Calendar

         6       Number 682, Senate Print Number 2399, and ask

         7       that said bill retain its place on the Third

         8       Reading Calendar.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Without

        10       objection.

        11                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  Also, Mr.

        12       President, I would please submit that I happened

        13       to be out of the chamber last Wednesday, I

        14       believe it was July 16th, when Senate 736 passed

        15       on a slow roll call.  That was Calendar Number

        16       1038.  If I had been here in the chamber, I

        17       would have voted in the affirmative.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        19       record will so state.

        20                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  Yes.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        22       Tully.

        23                      SENATOR TULLY:  Yes, Mr.











                                                             
5386

         1       President.  May I be recorded in the negative on

         2       Calendar Number 620?

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  620,

         4       Senator Tully is in the negative without

         5       objection.

         6                      Senator Libous.

         7                      SENATOR LIBOUS:  Mr. President,

         8       on behalf of Senator Cook, on page 42, I offer

         9       the following amendments to Calendar Number 832,

        10       Assembly Print 2913, and ask that said bill

        11       retain its place.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Without

        13       objection.

        14                      Senator Sheffer.

        15                      SENATOR SHEFFER:  Mr. President,

        16       on behalf of Senator Kuhl, I wish to call up

        17       Senate bill, Print Number 4426, recalled from

        18       the Assembly which is now at the desk.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        20       Secretary will read it.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator Kuhl,

        22       Senate Bill 4426, Agriculture and Markets Law.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator











                                                             
5387

         1       Sheffer.

         2                      SENATOR SHEFFER:  Mr. President,

         3       I now move to reconsider the vote by which this

         4       bill was passed.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         6       the roll on reconsideration.

         7                      (The Secretary called the roll on

         8       reconsideration. )

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 56.

        10                      SENATOR SHEFFER:  I offer the

        11       following amendments.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        13       Amendments are received.

        14                      Senator Nozzolio.

        15                      SENATOR NOZZOLIO:  Mr. President,

        16       I ask to be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        17       Number 620.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  620,

        19       Senator Nozzolio is in the negative.

        20                      Senator Smith.

        21                      SENATOR SMITH:  Mr. President, I

        22       would ask unanimous consent to be recorded in

        23       the negative on Calendar Number 1159.











                                                             
5388

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  1159?

         2                      SENATOR SMITH:  Yes.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         4       Smith is in the negative, without objection.

         5                      Any other motions? Senator Op...

         6       Senator Lack.

         7                      SENATOR LACK:  Please record me

         8       in the negative, without objection, on Calendar

         9       680.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  680,

        11       Senator Lack will be in the negative.

        12                      Any other motions on the floor?

        13       Seeing -- Senator Lack, you got the right number

        14       on that? There's no 680.

        15                      SENATOR LACK:  800.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  What

        17       number?

        18                      SENATOR LACK:  800; thank you.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        20       Lack in the negative on Calendar 800.

        21                      Senator Solomon.

        22                      SENATOR SOLOMON:  I'd like to be

        23       recorded, have unanimous consent to be recorded











                                                             
5389

         1       in the negative on Calendar 1159.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  1159,

         3       Senator Solomon is in the negative.

         4                      We have a couple substitutions.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  On page 16,

         6       Senator Holland moves to discharge the Committee

         7       on Rules from Assembly Bill Number 4264 and

         8       substitute it for his identical Third Reading

         9       774.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        11       Substitution ordered.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  On page 18,

        13       Senator Volker moves to discharge the Committee

        14       on Rules from Assembly Bill Number 8201 and

        15       substitute it for the identical Third Reading

        16       856.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        18       Substitution ordered.

        19                      Senator Present.  Oh, Senator

        20       Hoffmann.

        21                      SENATOR HOFFMANN:  Have unanimous

        22       consent to be recorded in the negative on 800,

        23       please, Mr. President.











                                                             
5390

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         2       Hoffmann is in the negative on 800, without

         3       objection.

         4                      Senator Present, looks like it.

         5                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Looks like it,

         6       huh?

         7                      Mr. President, there being no

         8       further business, I move we adjourn until

         9       tomorrow at 3:00 p.m.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        11       Senate will stand adjourned until tomorrow at

        12       3:00 p.m.

        13                      (Whereupon at 5:21 p.m., the

        14       Senate adjourned. )

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