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         9                       ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                       February 1, 1994

        11                           3:53 p.m.

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        14                        REGULAR SESSION

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        18       SENATOR HUGH T. FARLEY, Acting President

        19       STEPHEN F. SLOAN, Secretary

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         1                      P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         3       Senate will come to order.  Senators will please

         4       find their seats.  Please rise with me for the

         5       Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.

         6                      (The assemblage repeated the

         7       Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Today,

         9       in the absence of clergy, would you please bow

        10       your heads for a moment of silent prayer.

        11                      (A moment of silence was

        12       observed.)

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        14       Secretary will begin by reading the Journal.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  In Senate,

        16       Monday, January 31st, the Senate met pursuant to

        17       adjournment, Senator Farley -- Senators Farley

        18       and Kuhl in the Chair upon designation of the

        19       Temporary President.  The Journal of Sunday,

        20       January 30th, was read and approved.  On motion,

        21       Senate adjourned.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Hearing

        23       no objection, the Journal will stand approved as











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         1       read.

         2                      The order of business.

         3                      Presentation of petitions.

         4                      Messages from the Assembly.

         5                      Messages from the Governor.

         6                      Reports of standing committees.

         7                      We have a report of a standing

         8       committee.  Secretary will read it.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Cook,

        10       from the Committee on Education, reports the

        11       following bills directly for third reading.

        12                      Senate Bill Number 4237-A, by

        13       Senator Stafford, an act to amend the state aid

        14       to the North Warren Central School District.

        15                      Senate Bill Number 4788-A, by

        16       Senator Cook, an act to amend the Education

        17       Law.

        18                      6042, by Senator Larkin, an act

        19       to amend the Education Law.

        20                      6523, by Senator Skelos, an act

        21       to amend the Education Law.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  All

        23       those -- we have some more.  Hold on.











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         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Tully,

         2       from the Committee on Health, reports the

         3       following bills directly for third reading:

         4                      Senate Bill Number 6551, by

         5       Senator Tully, an act to amend Chapter 735 of

         6       the Laws of 1992 amending the Public Health

         7       Law.

         8                      Senator Maltese, from the

         9       Committee on Crime Victims, Crime and

        10       Correction, reports the following bills directly

        11       for third reading:

        12                      Senate Bill Number 245-A, an act

        13       to amend the Executive Law.

        14                      2754, by Senator Cook and others,

        15       Correction Law and the Civil Practice Law and

        16       Rules.

        17                      3797, by Senator Maltese, an act

        18       to amend the Executive Law.

        19                      44 -- excuse me.  Senator Lack,

        20       from the Committee on Judiciary, reports the

        21       following bills directly for third reading:

        22                      Senate Bill Number 442, by

        23       Senator Stafford and others, Real Property Law.











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         1                      Senate Bill Number 1936, by

         2       Senator Maltese, an act to amend the Court of

         3       Claims Act.

         4                      2670, by Senator Lack, an act to

         5       amend the Real Property Law.

         6                      And 6396, by Senator Marino,

         7       proposing amendments to the Constitution,

         8       filling the vacancy in the office of the

         9       Comptroller and Attorney General.

        10                      All bills reported directly for

        11       Third Reading.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  All

        13       bills are reported directly for third reading.

        14                      We have a substitution, Senator

        15       Present.  Secretary will read it.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  On page 5 of

        17       today's calendar, Senator Velella moves to

        18       discharge the Committee on Insurance from

        19       Assembly Bill Number 6289-B and substitute it

        20       for the identical Third Reading 59.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        22       Substitution is ordered.

        23                      Reports of select committees.











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         1                      Communication and reports from

         2       state officers.

         3                      Motions and resolutions.

         4                      Senator Present.

         5                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

         6       I move that we adopt the Resolution Calendar, a

         7       copy of which is on our desk.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  All in

         9       favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar,

        10       please say aye.

        11                      (Response of "Aye".)

        12                      Those opposed, nay.

        13                      (There was no response.)

        14                      The Resolution Calendar is

        15       adopted.  No motions on the floor.  We're ready

        16       for the calendar.

        17                      Senator Present.

        18                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

        19       let's take up the non-controversial calendar,

        20       please.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        22       Non-controversial.  Secretary will read.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  On page 4,











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         1       Calendar Number 36, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate

         2       Bill Number 2507-A, an act to amend the Vehicle

         3       and Traffic Law.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         5       the last section.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         7       act shall take effect immediately.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         9       the roll.

        10                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 37.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  That

        13       bill is passed.

        14                      THE SECRETARY: Excuse me, ayes

        15       36, nays 1.  Senator Wright recorded in the

        16       negative.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        18       bill is passed.

        19                      THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number

        20       40, by Senator Bruno, Senate Bill Number 6300-A,

        21       an act to amend the Highway Law, in relation to

        22       designating a portion of the state highway

        23       system as the C.V. Whitney Memorial Highway.











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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         2       the last section.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         4       act shall take effect immediately.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         6       the roll.

         7                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 37.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  That

        10       bill is passed.

        11                      THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number

        12       54, by Senator Volker, Senate Bill Number

        13       4944-A.

        14                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay it aside.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        16       that bill aside.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        18       55, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number 1156,

        19       an act to amend the Executive Law and Penal Law.

        20                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay it aside.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        22       aside.

        23                      THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number











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         1       65, by Senator Kuhl, Senate bill Number 5...

         2                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay it aside.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

         4       that aside.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         6       67, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Bill Number 3413-A,

         7       an act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law

         8       and Economic Development Law.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        10       the last section.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

        12       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        14       the roll.

        15                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 36, nays 1.

        17       Senator Leichter recorded in the negative.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        19       bill is passed.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        21       72, by Senator Tully, Senate Bill Number 6419,

        22       New York State Medical Care -

        23                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay it aside.











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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

         2       aside.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         4       83, by Senator Bruno, Senate Bill Number 2186,

         5       Real Prop...

         6                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay it aside for

         7       Senator Dollinger, please.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

         9       that bill aside.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       88, by Senator Levy, Senate -

        12                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay it aside,

        13       please.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay it

        15       aside.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       103, by Senator Stafford, Senate Bill -

        18                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay it aside for

        19       Senator Dollinger.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        21       that aside.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        23       111, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number 6548,











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         1       amend Chapter 208 of the Laws of 1992.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         3       the last section.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         7       the roll.

         8                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        11       bill is passed.  That's the first time through.

        12                      Senator Present.

        13                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Let's take up

        14       the controversial calendar, please.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        16       Controversial, page 4.

        17                      THE SECRETARY: On page 4,

        18       Calendar Number 54, by Senator Volker, Senate

        19       Bill Number 4944-A, an act to amend the Civil

        20       Rights Law, the Criminal Procedure Law and the

        21       Executive Law.

        22                      SENATOR PRESENT: Lay it aside.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY: Lay the











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         1       bill aside temporarily.

         2                      THE SECRETARY: On page 5,

         3       Calendar Number 55, by Senator Skelos, Senate

         4       Bill Number 1156, Executive Law and the Penal

         5       Law, in relation to the payment of fees by

         6       persons sentenced to probation.

         7                      SENATOR GOLD: Explanation.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

         9       Explanation, Senator Skelos.  Senator Gold.

        10                      SENATOR PRESENT: Lay it aside

        11       temporarily.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY: Lay it

        13       aside temporarily.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        15       65, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Bill Number 535-A,

        16       an act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

        17                      SENATOR GOLD:  Explanation.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        19       Explanation, Senator Kuhl.

        20                      SENATOR PRESENT: Lay it aside

        21       temporarily.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Lay

        23       this bill aside temporarily.











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         1                      THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number

         2       72, by Senator Tully, Senate Bill Number 6419,

         3       amend the New York State Medical Care Facilities

         4       Finance Agency Act.

         5                      SENATOR GOLD: Lay it -

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         7       the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

         9       This -

        10                      SENATOR GOLD:  I'm sorry.

        11                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Lay it aside

        12       temporarily.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY: Lay the

        14       bill aside temporarily.

        15                      THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number

        16       83, by Senator Bruno, Senate Bill Number 2186,

        17       Real Property Tax Law, in relation to

        18       residential improvement exemption in certain

        19       cities.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        21       the last section.

        22                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Explanation.

        23                      ACTION PRESIDENT FARLEY:











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         1       Explanation, Senator Bruno.

         2                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Yes, Mr.

         3       President.  This bill is introduced at the

         4       request of the city of Troy, and the intent is

         5       to enable people to upgrade their property

         6       residentially, one- or two-family homes within

         7       the city limits of Troy, and when they improve

         8       their property, there will be no tax liability.

         9                      For example, someone owns a

        10       $100,000 home, they spend 10,000 to renovate it,

        11       rehab' it, beautify it, all the good things that

        12       neighbors like to see happen in a municipality,

        13       there will be no increase in their tax liability

        14       for having done that, unless, Senator, and

        15       hopefully in anticipation of your question, the

        16       property changes hands.

        17                      If the property changes hands,

        18       then they go back and re-assess or do whatever

        19       is normally done that relates it to market

        20       value.  If the inhabitants are increased, if it

        21       goes from one-family or two-family, is upgraded

        22       from there, well, then we start over with the

        23       tax liability.











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         1                      So the bottom line is that in

         2       Troy, many properties are not improved because

         3       people living on fixed income, limited incomes,

         4       can't afford the high taxes that they presently

         5       pay, never mind the potential of increasing the

         6       taxes on top of the cost of upgrading the

         7       property.  A great bill, Mr. President.

         8       Hopefully we will have the support of this body.

         9                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Mr. President.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        11       Leichter.

        12                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Yeah.  Would

        13       Senator Bruno yield to a question on his great

        14       bill?

        15                      SENATOR BRUNO:  With great

        16       pleasure.

        17                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Senator,

        18       suppose I take a shack, two-room shack, and I

        19       make it -- I rehabilitate it, renovate it, alter

        20       it, becomes a million-dollar mansion.  Now it

        21       has 30 rooms and gilded marble plates, gold

        22       faucets, and so on.  Are you telling me there

        23       will be no increase in my tax?











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         1                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Within the city

         2       of Troy, I am telling you that what you have

         3       just done is you have upgraded the property of

         4       everyone around you, the entire municipality in

         5       Troy, by having spent that million dollars

         6       upgrading that shack.  We applaud you.  There

         7       will be no tax consequences to you as long as

         8       you own it.

         9                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Senator, now

        10       as you say, I bestowed this enormous benefit on

        11       all of my neighbors, none of whom have altered

        12       their property.  Are they going to get a tax

        13       increase because the assessment in the community

        14       of houses is so much better because they're all

        15       living next to the Leichter Mansion?

        16                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Senator, as you

        17       know, when people do comparables, they will look

        18       at a comparable and they will say this shack is

        19       not increased at all in its tax liability.

        20       Consequently, we have no additional liability,

        21       so I would guess not, Senator, so live there in

        22       great comfort and, Senator, think about all of

        23       the jobs that are created by the million-dollar











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         1       rehab' project that you have just accomplished.

         2       Congratulations to you, Senator Leichter.

         3                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Senator, can I

         4       ask another question?

         5                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Yes.

         6                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Senator, has

         7       the city of toy asked us to pass this bill?

         8                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Yes.

         9                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  There's a home

        10       rule message?

        11                      SENATOR BRUNO:  We have a great

        12       sponsor.  This is at the request of -- this

        13       legislation is introduced at the request of the

        14       city of Troy, and I guess the best demonstration

        15       of that would be that the Assembly sponsor is a

        16       great colleague, good friend, fellow Democrat,

        17       Ron Canestrari, who serves on the Ways and Means

        18       with great distinction, and he sponsors this

        19       bill in the Assembly and has full intent of

        20       seeing it become law with your support,

        21       Senator.

        22                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Senator Bruno,

        23       let me say, I think the bill is -- to my mind,











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         1       is badly flawed, but if the city of Troy wants

         2       it and it has such a distinguished sponsor -- I

         3       don't know about the Assembly sponsor, but

         4       certainly the Senate sponsor -

         5                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Thank you.

         6                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  -- I'm going

         7       to vote for it.

         8                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Thank you.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        10       Jones.

        11                      SENATOR JONES:  Yes, Mr.

        12       President.  Would the sponsor yield to a

        13       question, please?

        14                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Yes.

        15                      SENATOR JONES:  Senator Bruno,

        16       could you just clarify for me.  The city of

        17       Rochester had requested for -- a bill last year

        18       for the similar kinds of property exemptions.

        19       We then passed a statewide bill, and the city

        20       agreed that they would abide by that even though

        21       they had different conditions in their bill.

        22       I'm wondering why the city of Troy, the

        23       statewide bill we passed isn't applicable and











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         1       what are the differences now that we need

         2       another bill?

         3                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Thank you,

         4       Senator.

         5                      The statewide bill that we did,

         6       my recollection is that it was similar at the

         7       beginning, but as you went forward each year

         8       after you spend a million dollars rehabing' that

         9       shack, as Senator Leichter just did, the next

        10       year, you lose by the statewide application,

        11       twelve and a half percent of the benefit, and

        12       you lose twelve and a half percent every year

        13       for years until eight years later, you are then

        14       on the tax rolls for that million instead of

        15       where you started.  So the city of Troy sees

        16       that as some inhibition, because maybe the

        17       average income levels are different there than

        18       Rochester, but it just seemed like an additional

        19       liability to those people that they are trying

        20       to encourage to upgrade their properties, so

        21       that's why we're asking for special legislation,

        22       Senator.

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         1       would the Senator yield to one more question?

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         3       Bruno, would you yield to another question from

         4       Senator Jones?

         5                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Yes, Mr.

         6       President.

         7                      SENATOR JONES:  Senator, would it

         8       be your recommendation then that each city then

         9       would resubmit, because Rochester didn't want

        10       those same conditions either, then they should

        11       resubmit a new bill this year for themselves and

        12       ignore the statewide then?

        13                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Senator, I think

        14       each person that represents a constituency has

        15       to make their judgments on what they see as the

        16       best interests of the majority of their

        17       constituency, and in your great wisdom, if you

        18       think that approach is worth bringing to the

        19       floor, then if I were you, I would be doing

        20       that.

        21                      SENATOR JONES:  Thank you,

        22       Senator.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Last











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         1       section.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         3       act shall take effect immediately.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         5       the roll.

         6                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 47.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         9       bill is passed.

        10                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

        11       can we take up Calendar 72, please.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        13       Calendar Number 72, by Senator Tully, on page

        14       6.  Secretary will read it.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        16       72, by Senator Tully, Senate Bill Number 6419,

        17       New York State Medical Care Facilities Finance

        18       Agency Act.

        19                      SENATOR JONES:  Explanation.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        21       Explanation has been asked for, Senator Tully.

        22                      SENATOR TULLY:  Yes, Mr.

        23       President.  Who asked for the explanation?











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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  I think

         2       it was Senator Jones, as I recall.

         3                      SENATOR TULLY:  Thank you, Mr.

         4       President.

         5                      This bill deals with the

         6       financing of Life Care Communities and it deals

         7       basically with development costs of the

         8       projects.  The bill was unanimously passed in

         9       the Senate last year also in the Assembly and

        10       the Governor, in his less than infinite wisdom,

        11       chose to veto it last year.  In his veto message

        12       which I have somewhere here, the Governor

        13       indicated that he anticipated having no

        14       objection to making development cost loans

        15       available through state public authorities where

        16       appropriate.  If I understood the nature of his

        17       veto message, as we sometimes have to read

        18       between the lines, he thought it was a great

        19       bill but last year wasn't the time for it.  This

        20       year is.  I would expect that, after it passes

        21       this house and passes the Assembly, that he will

        22       then sign it because it might be the appropriate

        23       time for this excellent legislation.











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         1                      SENATOR JONES:  Mr. President,

         2       would the Senator yield for a question, please?

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  I'm

         4       sure he will.  Senator Tully.

         5                      SENATOR JONES:  Senator Tully,

         6       could you clarify for me, I just saw the figure

         7       of 7 million mentioned in the memo.  Is this in

         8       addition to MCFFA's already, their allotment, or

         9       is it just a reallocation of the money they

        10       already -

        11                      SENATOR TULLY:  Under existing

        12       law, MCFFA has a cap of $3 million.  This is an

        13       additional 7 million, so it will be 7- on top of

        14       the 3- giving the ability to extend the cap to

        15       $10 million.

        16                      SENATOR JONES:  Would the Senator

        17       yield to another question?

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        19       Tully.

        20                      SENATOR JONES:  Senator, it has

        21       come to my intention from some people that there

        22       has been some problems with Life Care

        23       communities, in that they basically have become











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         1       financially insolvent.  Do you have any evidence

         2       of this, or have you looked into this issue?

         3                      SENATOR TULLY:  Mr. President,

         4       that's not really accurate.  In 1989, my

         5       legislation was passed  additional bills, one of

         6       which passed and signed by the Governor which

         7       provided for the development of Life Care

         8       communities.  This bill is one of a part -- of a

         9       group of bills, the first one of which is to

        10       provide for the development costs as this bill

        11       does.  The additional bills, one of which passed

        12       through the Local Government today, which

        13       provided for financing through one of the

        14       mechanisms that we recommended which is the IDA,

        15       utilizing IDA for the loans.  Additional bills

        16       will come through that will also provide for

        17       long-term financing through utilization of

        18       pension funds as well.

        19                      SENATOR JONES:  On the bill, Mr.

        20       President.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  On the

        22       bill, Senator Jones.

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         1       myself a little bit concerned about the debt,

         2       that I think there is some potential there for

         3       lost revenue.  However, the potential cost

         4       savings to the state and local governments and

         5       Medicaid, I think is worth the risk, but -- I

         6       will support the bill, but I'm glad to hear what

         7       you said, Senator Tully, that we are looking for

         8       long-range ways of funding this as we continue

         9       in our efforts to cut Medicaid costs.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        11       the last section.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        13       act shall take effect immediately.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

        15       the roll.

        16                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        18       Tully to explain his vote.

        19                      SENATOR TULLY:  Yes, Mr.

        20       President.

        21                      Just to allay the concerns of

        22       Senator Jones and anyone else that might be out

        23       there.  It really is a disgrace that this state











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         1       which leads in so many things is so far behind

         2       in this most essential area, that -- the

         3       development of Life Care communities.  Too many

         4       times our seniors in this state have been forced

         5       to reduce themselves and lose their dignity by

         6       virtue of transactions that some people might

         7       call fraudulent to avoid the constraints that

         8       come for providing for themselves in their later

         9       years.

        10                      This bill is specifically

        11       directed to precluding any concern with respect

        12       to fraud and concern with respect to the loss of

        13       senior citizens' money.  The economic impact on

        14       this state would be somewhere in the area of $2

        15       billion.

        16                      Right now, youngsters are forced

        17       to visit their parents, if you will, in other

        18       states, and the other states are gaining the

        19       benefit of the economic development that these

        20       Life Care communities provide and all of the

        21       jobs -- jobs, Mr. President, that we need so

        22       much and so urgently in this state.

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         1       degree of certainty that this is legislation

         2       that everyone knows is sorely needed, and I

         3       think probably this year we'll see it signed by

         4       the Governor, hopefully as expeditiously as

         5       possible.

         6                      Thank you, Mr. President.  I vote

         7       aye.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

         9       Results.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                      Senator Present.

        14                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Calendar 54,

        15       please.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        17       Calendar 54, on page 4, Senator Volker.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       54, by Senator Volker, Senate Bill Number

        20       4944-A, Civil Rights Law.

        21                      SENATOR VOLKER:  Mr. President,

        22       this is a bill that has passed this house in the

        23       past, and by the way -- pardon?











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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         2       the last section.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         4       act shall take effect immediately.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         6       the roll.

         7                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        10       bill is passed.

        11                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Calendar 55,

        12       please.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        14       Calendar Number 55, on page 5.

        15                      THE SECRETARY: Calendar Number

        16       55, by Senator Skelos, Senate Bill Number 1156,

        17       Executive Law and the Penal Law.

        18                      SENATOR GOLD:  Explanation.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        20       Explanation, Senator Skelos.

        21                      SENATOR SKELOS:  This bill which

        22       we discussed on other occasions, states that

        23       subject to a court order, non-indigent criminals











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         1       sentenced to probation shall reimburse the

         2       county or the city for the actual cost of their

         3       supervision during the probationary period.

         4       It's estimated that in counties like Nassau,

         5       this could save them 3- to $4 million a year.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

         7       the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Hold it

        11       up.

        12                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President, as

        13       a courtesy to Senator Skelos, we won't have to

        14       really redebate this, but I just want to refresh

        15       some recollections, last year Senator Connor and

        16       Espada and Galiber and myself, Leichter,

        17       Markowitz, Montgomery, Ohrenstein, Onorato,

        18       Smith, Stavisky and Waldon voted in the

        19       negative.  There he is.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        21       the last section.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        23       act shall take effect immediately.











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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         2       the roll.

         3                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Those recorded in

         5       the negative on Calendar Number 55 are Senators

         6       Gold, Leichter, Markowitz, Ohrenstein, Smith and

         7       Waldon.  Ayes 44, nays 6.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         9       bill is passed.

        10                      Senator Present.

        11                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Calendar 65,

        12       please.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

        14       Calendar 65, by Senator Kuhl.

        15                      SENATOR KUHL:  Senator Waldon.

        16                      SENATOR WALDON:  Thank you, Mr.

        17       President.  I respectfully request unanimous

        18       consent to be recorded in the negative on

        19       Calendar 54.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  54,

        21       Senator Waldon will be in the negative.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        23       Kuhl's bill, Secretary will read it.  I'm











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         1       sorry.  Senator Stavisky.

         2                      SENATOR STAVISKY:  May I be

         3       recorded in the negative on Calendar 55.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  55 -

         5                      SENATOR CONNOR:  Mr. President.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

         7       Connor.

         8                      SENATOR CONNOR:  May I have

         9       unanimous consent to be recorded in the negative

        10       on Calendar Number 55?

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Without

        12       objection.

        13                      Senator Onorato.

        14                      SENATOR ONORATO:  May I have

        15       unanimous consent on Calendar Number 55?

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Without

        17       objection, Senator Onorato's in the negative.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       65, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Bill Number 535-A,

        20       an act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

        21                      SENATOR GOLD:  Explanation.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:

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         1                      SENATOR KUHL:  Yes, Mr.

         2       President.  This is a bill that mandates -- and

         3       I underscore the word "mandates" -- a

         4       comprehensive review of regulations and rules as

         5       they might relate to the agricultural industry

         6       and the harmful effect they might have on that

         7       industry and also provides a detailed procedure

         8       by which those bills or those regulations would

         9       be reviewed and dealt with.

        10                      SENATOR GOLD:  Is that it?

        11                      Will Senator Larkin yield to a

        12       question?  In other words, that was an

        13       unauthorized -

        14                      Mr. President.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        16       Gold.

        17                      SENATOR GOLD:  Last year we had

        18       17 people voting in the negative, and I just

        19       want to point out without making the same speech

        20       I've made so many other times, that we have the

        21       capacity for legislative oversight.  If -

        22                      If -- Senator Kuhl, if you think

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         1       adversely affecting agriculture, and you want to

         2       make a study of it, then you should talk to the

         3       lady in red.  When you see the red flag, you'll

         4       see Administrative Regulations Review will go

         5       right into it, but these mandates on departments

         6       and having them do studies -- my colleague from

         7       Nassau County is not here, so I won't mention

         8       Senator Levy by name, but we're always telling

         9       departments to make studies, and then we're

        10       complaining about the cost to government, and

        11       maybe one of the ways you cut the cost of

        12       government is not passing bills telling them to

        13       study things that maybe the Legislature ought to

        14       be doing.

        15                      At any rate, Senators Connor and

        16       myself and Senator Espada, Galiber, Gold,

        17       Gonzalez, Halperin, Leichter, Markowitz, Mendez,

        18       Montgomery, Ohrenstein, Onorato, Oppenheimer,

        19       Paterson, Smith, Solomon and Senator Stavisky.

        20                      Last section.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Read

        22       the last section.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This











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         1       act shall take effect immediately.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Call

         3       the roll.

         4                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Those recorded in

         6       the negative on Calendar Number 65 are Senators

         7       Connor, Gold, Leichter, Markowitz, Ohrenstein,

         8       Onorato and Smith.  Ayes 43, nays 7.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

        10       bill is passed.

        11                      Senator Present.

        12                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

        13       on behalf of Senator Nozzolio, I would like to

        14       announce an immediate meeting of the Elections

        15       Committee in Room 332.  We'll stand at ease

        16       awaiting that committee's report.  Upon receipt

        17       of the report, we'll adjourn until Monday at

        18       3:00 p.m.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Senator

        20       Present, we have another committee before it, if

        21       we may read that.

        22                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Let's read

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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  There

         2       will be an immediate meeting of the Elections

         3       Committee in Room 332.  Is it all right to read

         4       this standing committee's report?

         5                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Yes.

         6                      THE SECRETARY: Senator Larkin,

         7       from the Committee on Local Government, reports

         8       the following bills directly for third reading.

         9                      Senate Bill Number 219, by

        10       Senator Farley, an act to amend the County Law,

        11       in relation to county office hours of work.

        12                      281, by Senator Hannon,

        13       authorizing the county of Nassau to accept an

        14       application for real property tax exemption.

        15                      362, by Senator Farley and

        16       others, Real Property Tax Law.

        17                      371, by Senators Bruno -- Senator

        18       Bruno and others, Real Property Tax Law.

        19                      379, by Senator Volker, General

        20       Municipal Law and the State Finance Law.

        21                      438, by Senator Stafford and

        22       others, Real Property Tax Law.

        23                      1153, by Senator Larkin, Real











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         1       Property Tax Law.

         2                      1428, by Senators LaValle and

         3       others, General Municipal Law.

         4                      2449, by Senator Kuhl, an act to

         5       amend the County Law.

         6                      2523-B, by Senator Stafford, an

         7       act to amend the County Law, in relation to

         8       authorizing the county of Franklin to appoint up

         9       to three public defenders.

        10                      2537, by Senator Present, Real

        11       Property Tax Law.

        12                      2702, by Senator Cook, Real

        13       Property Tax Law.

        14                      3180, by Senator Cook, Real

        15       Property Tax Law.

        16                      3412, by Senator Kuhl, an act to

        17       amend the Real Property Tax Law.

        18                      3867-A, by Senator Cook, County

        19       Law, in relation to appointment of deputies.

        20                      4066, by Senator Larkin, Real

        21       Property Tax Law.

        22                      6318, by Senator Stafford, an act

        23       to amend the Town Law, authorizing the town of











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         1       Indian Lake, county of Hamilton, to appropriate

         2       certain monies.

         3                      And 6327, by Senator Tully and

         4       others, General Municipal Law, in relation to

         5       Life Care Community.

         6                      All bills reported directly for

         7       third reading.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  All

         9       bills are reported directly for third reading.

        10                      Senator Present.

        11                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Senator

        12       Galiber.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Let's

        14       please have a little order in the house.

        15                      Senator Galiber.

        16                      SENATOR GALIBER:  Mr. President,

        17       I would ask unanimous consent to be recorded in

        18       the negative on a number of bills.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  On what

        20       number?

        21                      SENATOR GALIBER:  On a number of

        22       bills.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  All











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         1       right.  Could you give us the numbers?

         2                      SENATOR GALIBER:  Yes.  54, 55,

         3       65 and 67, Calendar Numbers.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Without

         5       objection.

         6                      SENATOR GALIBER:  Thank you, Mr.

         7       President.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Any

         9       other -

        10                      Senator Present, the Legislature

        11       will stand in recess and -

        12                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Stand at ease.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  Hold

        14       on.  Senator -- I'm sorry, Senator Santiago.

        15                      SENATOR SANTIAGO:  Thank you.

        16       I'd ask unanimous consent to be recorded in the

        17       negative on Calendar 55, please.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  55,

        19       without objection.

        20                      Senator Present.

        21                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

        22       stand at ease awaiting the report of the

        23       Elections Committee.











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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  And

         2       then we'll adjourn with that report, intervening

         3       legislative days.

         4                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Until Monday,

         5       3:00 o'clock, intervening days to be legislative

         6       days.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:  The

         8       Senate will stand at recess.

         9                      (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        10       ease from 4:23 p.m. to 5:09 p.m.)

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        12       Senate will come to order.

        13                      Senator Montgomery.

        14                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Yes, Mr.

        15       President.  I would like unanimous consent to be

        16       recorded in the negative on Calendars 55 and 65.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        18       objection, so ordered.

        19                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Thank you.

        20                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Can we return

        21       to reports of standing committees?

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  We will.

        23       Clerk will read.











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         1                      THE SECRETARY: Senator Nozzolio,

         2       from the Committee on Elections, reports the

         3       following bills directly for third reading:

         4                      Senate Bill Number 6315-A, by

         5       Senator Nozzolio and others, Election Law, in

         6       relation to false registration.

         7                      6316-A, by Senator Nozzolio and

         8       others, an act to amend the Election Law, in

         9       relation to giving consideration for franchise.

        10                      6332-A, by Senator Nozzolio and

        11       others, Election Law, in relation to influencing

        12       the vote on the day of an election.

        13                      6336-A, by Senator Nozzolio and

        14       others, Election Law, in relation to corrupt use

        15       of position or authority.

        16                      And 6527-A, by Senator Nozzolio

        17       and others, State Board of Elections to conduct

        18       a special study to combat voter fraud.

        19                      All bills reported directly for

        20       third reading.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  So

        22       ordered.

        23                      Senator Present.











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         1                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Stand at ease

         2       for a minute.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         4       Senate will stand at ease momentarily.

         5                      Senator Paterson.

         6                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Mr. President,

         7       with unanimous consent, I would like to be

         8       recorded in the negative on Calendar Numbers 54

         9       and 55.  Why is it that I can't talk when

        10       there's no one in here?

        11                      THE SECRETARY: 54 and 55?

        12                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Right.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        14       objection.

        15                      SENATOR PRESENT:  No objection.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  So

        17       ordered.

        18                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Mr. President,

        19       there being no further business, I move that we

        20       adjourn until Monday, February 7th, at 3:00

        21       p.m., intervening days to be legislative days.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        23       Senate stands recessed until Monday, 3:00 p.m.











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         1                      SENATOR PRESENT:  Stand

         2       adjourned.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Stand

         4       adjourned, excuse me.

         5                      (Whereupon, at 5:17 p.m., the

         6       Senate adjourned.)

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