Regular Session - February 26, 1996

                                                                 
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         8                    ALBANY, NEW YORK

         9                    February 26, 1996

        10                        3:00 p.m.

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        13                     REGULAR SESSION

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        17       LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR BETSY McCAUGHEY ROSS,

        18       President

        19       STEPHEN F. SLOAN, Secretary

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         1                  P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                       THE PRESIDENT:   The Senate

         3       will come to order.

         4                       Since the floor is very

         5       crowded, anyone who does not have business

         6       before the Senate may choose to take a seat in

         7       the gallery.

         8                       Would everyone please rise and

         9       repeat with me the Pledge of Allegiance.

        10                       (The assemblage repeated the

        11       Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

        12                       The invocation today will be

        13       given by Dr. Evelyn John, who is pastor of the

        14       New Life Center of Truth in Brooklyn.

        15                       Reverend John.

        16                       REV. DR. EVELYN JOHN, Pastor,

        17       New Life Center of Truth:  Let us get still.  I

        18       know that wherever we are, God is.  Let us

        19       pray.

        20                       Loving Father-Mother God, we

        21       give Thee thanks for this beautiful day, but

        22       most of all, we give Thee thanks that we can

        23       come once more into this Senate so that we can











                                                             
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         1       praise You and thank You for giving these

         2       people here this beautiful opportunity and

         3       privilege of serving and building a nation.

         4                       We ask that You guide them in

         5       all they undertake so that Your people and our

         6       country will be prospered in Your own special

         7       way.

         8                       We ask a special blessing upon

         9       the Governor this day; grant him the wisdom and

        10       the intelligence, O God, to guide and direct

        11       all the deliberations so that whatever is

        12       considered, we know that this nation and all

        13       nations that touch this nation will be blessed

        14       in a special way.

        15                       So lovingly and joyfully

        16       relieve all the fears now of this meeting into

        17       Your care and keeping, knowing that Your Holy

        18       Spirit is now in complete control and all is

        19       well.

        20                       We thank You, O God, for we

        21       know that You hear and answer all our prayers

        22       and together we say amen.  Amen.

        23                       THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you











                                                             
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         1       Reverend John.

         2                       The reading of the Journal,

         3       please.

         4                       THE SECRETARY:   In Senate,

         5       Friday, February 23rd, the Senate met pursuant

         6       adjournment, Senator Hoblock in the chair.

         7       The Journal of Thursday, February 22nd was read

         8       and approved.  On motion, Senate adjourned.

         9                       THE PRESIDENT:   Without

        10       objection, the Journal stands approved as

        11       read.

        12                       Presentations of petitions.

        13                       Messages from the Assembly.

        14                       Messages from the Governor.

        15                       Reports of standing

        16       committees.

        17                       Communications and reports

        18       from state officers.

        19                       Motions and resolutions.

        20       Senator Marcellino.

        21                       SENATOR MARCELLINO:   Madam

        22       President, I have amendments that should be

        23       ordered to the following Third Reading Calendar











                                                             
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         1       bills:

         2                       Sponsored by Senator LaValle,

         3       Calendar Number 236; also sponsored by Senator

         4       LaValle, Calendar Number 262; sponsored by

         5       Senator Saland, Calendar Number 253; sponsored

         6       by Senator Volker, Calendar 123; sponsored by

         7       Senator Hoblock, Calendar 202; sponsored by

         8       Senator Marchi, Calendar 159; sponsored by

         9       Senator Padavan, Calendar Number 263; sponsored

        10       by Senator Skelos, Calendar Number 255; and

        11       sponsored by Senator Nozzolio, Calendar Number

        12       254.

        13                       And Madam President, I now move

        14       that these bills retain their place on the

        15       Order of Third Reading.

        16                       THE PRESIDENT:   Amendments

        17       received.

        18                       Senator Bruno.

        19                       SENATOR BRUNO:   Madam

        20       President, my colleagues, before we proceed

        21       with our normal order of business, I would like

        22       to take this occasion to welcome our newest

        23       Senator on this side of the aisle, Senator











                                                             
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         1       James Alesi who is from Monroe County

         2       representing the 55th Senatorial District.  He

         3       is joined by the County Executive of Monroe,

         4       John Doyle, and mayor of Rochester, Bill

         5       Johnson, and I know that there are many other

         6       elected officials and friends in the room.  We

         7       welcome you to the Senate.

         8                       There are two other Senators

         9       joining this chamber and I would ask my

        10       colleague, Senator Marty Connor, to introduce

        11       them.

        12                       THE PRESIDENT:   Senator

        13       Connor.

        14                       SENATOR CONNOR:   Thank you,

        15       Madam President.  It's indeed my pleasure to

        16       introduce to this body Senator Seymour Lachman

        17       who's a life-long resident of Brooklyn, is a

        18       Ph.D. From NYU and has had a distinguished

        19       career as a dean of the City University of New

        20       York.

        21                       Senator Lachman is also a

        22       well-known author in the field of education and

        23       we do welcome him to our body.











                                                             
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         1                       Also joining us from the other

         2       house, formerly of the other house, is Senator

         3       Larry Seabrook of the Bronx, now of the Bronx

         4       and representing part of Westchester County, as

         5       well.

         6                       Senator Seabrook, I think you

         7       all know has had a distinguished career in the

         8       Assembly, and now I think with the air of

         9       freedom and intellectual discourse that goes on

        10       in the upper house, I know he will even

        11       demonstrate to a much greater degree his

        12       leadership qualities.

        13                       He also is the current chair of

        14       the Association of Black and Puerto Rican

        15       Legislators; so, in effect, we in the Senate

        16       have taken that title from the other house and

        17       brought it over here.   Welcome, Senator

        18       Seabrook.

        19                       I'd also like to join in

        20       welcoming Senator Alesi and say to the Majority

        21       Leader at the risk of sounding political that

        22       we look forward to the next go 'round, we'll

        23       take two out of three any time, certainly in











                                                             
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         1       November it will be a good result.

         2                       Thank you, Madam President.

         3                       THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Bruno,

         4       have all the new Senators been sworn in?

         5                       SENATOR BRUNO:   Yes, they

         6       have, Madam President, and they now join their

         7       colleagues in this chamber officially.  And we

         8       now, Madam President, have 37 Republicans on

         9       this side of the aisle.

        10                       SENATOR CONNOR:   As long as

        11       we keep the two out of three, though.

        12                       SENATOR BRUNO:   At this time,

        13       I'd like to ask for an immediate meeting of the

        14       Finance Committee in room 332.

        15                       THE PRESIDENT:   Immediate

        16       meeting of the Finance Committee in room 332.

        17                       SENATOR BRUNO:   Madam

        18       President, can we now proceed to the

        19       non-controversial calendar?

        20                       THE PRESIDENT:   We have a

        21       couple of housekeeping measures.

        22                       SENATOR BRUNO:   Couple of

        23       motions by a very distinguished Senator,











                                                             
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         1       Senator Farley I see on his feet.

         2                       THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Farley.

         3                       SENATOR FARLEY:   Thank you,

         4       distinguished Majority Leader.

         5                       Madam President, I wish to call

         6       up Senator Volker's bill, Calendar 228,

         7       Assembly Print 7801.  Is it now at the desk?

         8                       THE PRESIDENT:   Clerk will

         9       read.

        10                       THE SECRETARY:  By the Assembly

        11       Committee on Rules, Assembly Print 7801, an act

        12       to amend the Education Law in relation to the

        13       appointment of a superintendent or associate

        14       superintendent of schools.

        15                       SENATOR FARLEY:   I now move to

        16       reconsider the vote by which Senator Volker's

        17       Assembly bill was -- excuse me, the Assembly

        18       bill was substituted for Senator Volker's bill,

        19       Senate Print 5209 on February 14th.

        20                       THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll

        21       for reconsideration, please.

        22                       (The Secretary called the roll

        23       on reconsideration.)











                                                             
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         1                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

         2                       SENATOR FARLEY:   I now move

         3       that Assembly Bill 7801 be recommitted to the

         4       Committee on Education and Senator Volker's

         5       Senate bill be restored to the Order of the

         6       Third Reading Calendar.

         7                       THE PRESIDENT:   The Assembly

         8       bill is recommitted.  The Senate bill is

         9       restored.

        10                       SENATOR FARLEY:   Thank you,

        11       Madam.

        12                       THE PRESIDENT:   Senator

        13       Hoblock.

        14                       SENATOR HOBLOCK:   Madam

        15       President, I wish to star Calendar Number 207,

        16       it's my bill, 5173A.

        17                       THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is

        18       starred.

        19                       SENATOR HOBLOCK:   Thank you.

        20                       THE PRESIDENT:   Senator Bruno,

        21       are you ready for the non-controversial

        22       reading?

        23                       SENATOR BRUNO:   Yes, Madam











                                                             
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         1       President, we are ready at this time.

         2                       THE PRESIDENT:   Secretary will

         3       read.

         4                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 64 by

         5       Senator Levy, Senate Print 356, and act to

         6       amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law in relation

         7       to prohibiting disposition of DWI offenses.

         8                       THE PRESIDENT:  Read the last

         9       section, please.

        10                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        11       This act shall take effect on the first day of

        12       November.

        13                       THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

        14                       (The Secretary called the

        15       roll.)

        16                       THE SECRETARY:  Those recorded

        17       in the negative on Calendar Number 64: Senators

        18       Kuhl and Hoblock, also Senator DeFrancisco.

        19       Ayes 47; nays, 3.

        20                       THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is

        21       passed.

        22                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        23       65 by Senator Levy, Senate Print 357, an act











                                                             
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         1       to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law in

         2       relation to limiting options for plea

         3       bargaining for repeat DWI offenders.

         4                       THE PRESIDENT:  Read the last

         5       section, please.

         6                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

         7       This act shall take effect on the first day

         8       November.

         9                       THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

        10                       (The Secretary called the

        11       roll.)

        12                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes, 49; nays,

        13       2, Senators DeFrancisco and Kuhl recorded in

        14       the negative.

        15                       THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is

        16       passed.

        17                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 137 by

        18       Senator Saland, Senate Print 3501A, an act to

        19       amend the Environmental Conservation Law in

        20       relation to the definition of the term

        21       municipality.

        22                       THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last

        23       section, please.











                                                             
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         1                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

         2       This act shall take effect immediately.

         3                       THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

         4                       (The Secretary called the

         5       roll.)

         6                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes, 51.

         7                       THE PRESIDENT:   Bill is

         8       passed.

         9                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 177 by

        10       Senator Velella, Senate Print 2766B, an act to

        11       amend the Insurance Law in relation to

        12       requiring insurance companies to notify the

        13       Department of Social Services.

        14                       SENATOR PATERSON:   Laid aside.

        15                       THE PRESIDENT:   Lay it aside.

        16                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 180 by

        17       Senator Skelos, Senate Print 413, act to amend

        18       the Public Health Law and the Correction Law in

        19       relation to requiring certain accidents -

        20                       SENATOR PATERSON:   Laid

        21       aside.

        22                       THE PRESIDENT:   Lay it aside,

        23       please.











                                                             
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         1                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 188 by

         2       Senator Levy, Senate Print 384D, an act to

         3       amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law in relation

         4       to requiring school bus and other motor vehicle

         5       drivers involved in personal injury accidents

         6       involving school buses to submit to a breath

         7       test.

         8                       THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last

         9       section, please.

        10                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        11       This act shall take effect on the first day of

        12       September.

        13                       THE PRESIDENT:   Call the

        14       roll.

        15                       (The Secretary called the

        16       roll.)

        17                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

        18                       THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is

        19       passed.

        20                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 203 by

        21       Senator Volker, Senate Print 3693, an act to

        22       amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules in

        23       relation to the compensation of referees.











                                                             
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         1                       THE PRESIDENT:   Read the last

         2       section, please.

         3                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

         4       This act shall take effect immediately.

         5                       THE PRESIDENT:   Call the roll.

         6                       (The Secretary called the

         7       roll.)

         8                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

         9                       THE PRESIDENT:   The bill is

        10       passed.

        11                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 204 by

        12       Senator Volker, Senate Print 3696, an act to

        13       amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules in

        14       relation to a motion for preliminary

        15       injunction.

        16                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:   Read

        17       the last section.

        18                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        19       This act shall take effect on the first day of

        20       January.

        21                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call

        22       the roll.

        23                       (The Secretary called the











                                                             
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         1       roll.)

         2                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

         3                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:   Bill

         4       is passed.

         5                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 205 by

         6       Senator Volker, Senate Print 3822, an act to

         7       amend the Criminal Procedure Law in relation to

         8       fingerprinting.

         9                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:   Read

        10       the last section.

        11                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        12       This act shall take effect on the 90th day.

        13                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:   Call

        14       the roll.

        15                       (The Secretary called the

        16       roll.)

        17                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 52.

        18                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:   Bill

        19       is passed.

        20                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 218 by

        21       Senator Saland, Senate Print 2916A -

        22                       SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay it

        23       aside.











                                                             
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         1                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

         2       bill aside.

         3                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 229 by

         4       Senator Rath, Senate Print 5752, an act to

         5       legalize, ratify and confirm the acts and

         6       proceedings of the Board of Education of the

         7       Pavilion Central School District.

         8                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:   Read

         9       the last section.

        10                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.

        11       This act shall take effect immediately.

        12                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:   Call

        13       the roll.

        14                       (The Secretary called the

        15       roll.)

        16                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 52.

        17                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        18       bill is passed.

        19                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 232 by

        20       Senator Cook, Senate Print 291, an act to amend

        21       the Real Property Tax Law in relation to

        22       statements of taxes by school districts

        23       relating to library purposes.











                                                             
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         1                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

         2       Secretary will read the last section.

         3                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

         4       This act shall take effect immediately.

         5                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call

         6       the roll.

         7                       (The Secretary called the

         8       roll.)

         9                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 52.

        10                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        11       bill is passed.

        12                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 234 by

        13       Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1099, an act to

        14       amend the General Municipal Law in relation to

        15       granting additional points in a service award

        16       program.

        17                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        18       Secretary will read the last section.

        19                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        20       This act shall take effect immediately.

        21                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call

        22       the roll.

        23                       (The Secretary called the











                                                             
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         1       roll.)

         2                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 52.

         3                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         4       bill is passed.

         5                       Senator Bruno, that completes

         6       the non-controversial calendar.

         7                       SENATOR BRUNO:   Mr. President,

         8       can we, at this time, take up the controversial

         9       calendar?

        10                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        11       Secretary will read the controversial calendar.

        12                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 177 by

        13       Senator Velella, Senate Print 2766B, an act to

        14       amend the Insurance Law in relation to

        15       requiring insurance companies to notify the

        16       Department of Social Services.

        17                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        18       Velella, an explanation of Calendar Number 177

        19       has been asked for by the acting minority

        20       leader, Senator Paterson.

        21                       SENATOR VELELLA:   Yes.  This

        22       bill requires that insurance companies notify

        23       the Department of Social Services when an











                                                             
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         1       insurance claim is filed that may result in a

         2       monetary award.

         3                       The measure will not put an

         4       additional burden on insurance carriers because

         5       companies are already reporting this

         6       information to a central reporting organization

         7       to help reduce fraud.

         8                       Last section.

         9                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Chair

        10       recognizes Senator Paterson.

        11                       SENATOR PATERSON:   If Senator

        12       Velella would entertain one question before we

        13       read the last section.

        14                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        15       Velella, do you yield to a question?

        16                       SENATOR VELELLA:   Yes.

        17                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        18       yields.

        19                       SENATOR PATERSON:   Senator,

        20       just for administrative procedures, just to

        21       speed things up, is there a particular reason

        22       why the -- is there a particular reason why the

        23       -- hold on just one second...











                                                             
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         1                       Thank you, Senator.  Why is the

         2       filing prior to the point at which the claims

         3       are actually made?  In other words, wouldn't it

         4       be less burdensome to wait until after they're

         5       paid out?  The problem is, I had trouble

         6       hearing your explanation, Senator.

         7                       SENATOR VELELLA:   Well, the

         8       reason why I would think it's more important to

         9       have such a claim filed with the Department of

        10       Social Services is, one, that they get adequate

        11       notice to ensure their lien against the

        12       proceeds that may come out of the file.  If a

        13       settlement is reached and the carrier and the

        14       plaintiff decide to settle a claim and pay out

        15       the money and then notify Social Services,

        16       while I believe that most people on Social

        17       Services are responsible and trustworthy, there

        18       are some that might spend all that money before

        19       we ever found out that it was even in

        20       existence.

        21                       So, when the claim is filed,

        22       the insurance carrier would notify the

        23       Department of Social Services; and very much











                                                             
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         1       the way a comp lien works on settlements, they

         2       would be part of the settlement so that they

         3       would have adequate notice to be sure that we

         4       didn't put temptation in the path of the

         5       plaintiff or the recipient to take that money,

         6       spend it and not reimburse the state.

         7                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         8       Paterson.

         9                       SENATOR PATERSON:   Mr.

        10       President, if Senator Velella would yield one

        11       more time, my question is -

        12                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        13       Velella, do you continue to yield?

        14                       SENATOR VELELLA:   Yes, I do.

        15                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        16       continues to yield.

        17                       SENATOR PATERSON:   Based on

        18       your answer, and I think it's an accurate

        19       answer, Senator, since such a high percentage

        20       of individuals are not going to be spending the

        21       money or there isn't going to be a settlement,

        22       in other words, since Social Services will have

        23       information that they may inevitably not use in











                                                             
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         1       a large number of cases, that was my only

         2       concern, that that expense might outweigh the

         3       amount of money that would be saved.

         4                       SENATOR VELELLA:   The fact of

         5       the matter is that we have several groups that

         6       are now supporting this, including the New York

         7       Public Welfare Association and several groups

         8       that are supporting it.  The amount of money

         9       that is spent by the Department of Social

        10       Services for fraud detection and to trace these

        11       things will by far offset the amount that's

        12       spent in keeping records on all of these claims

        13       when they're filed.

        14                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        15       Paterson.

        16                       SENATOR PATERSON:   Thank you.

        17       Senator.

        18                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        19       Secretary will read the last section.

        20                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        21       This act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        22                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call

        23       the roll.











                                                             
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         1                       (The Secretary called the

         2       roll.)

         3                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

         4                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         5       bill is passed.

         6                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 180 by

         7       Senator Skelos, Senate Print 413, an act to

         8       amend the Public Health Law and the Correction

         9       Law in relation to requiring certain applicants

        10       for employment.

        11                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        12       Skelos, an explanation has been asked for by

        13       Senator Paterson of Calendar Number 180,

        14       Calendar Number 180, Senate Print 413.

        15                       SENATOR VELELLA:   Mr.

        16       President.

        17                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        18       Velella, why do you rise?

        19                       SENATOR VELELLA:   May I

        20       briefly interrupt the proceedings to call an

        21       Insurance Committee meeting in room 332?

        22                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There

        23       will be an immediate meeting of the Insurance











                                                             
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         1       Committee in the Majority conference room in

         2       room 332.  An immediate meeting of the

         3       Insurance Committee in the Majority conference

         4       room, room 332.

         5                       Senator Skelos for an

         6       explanation.

         7                       SENATOR SKELOS:   Mr.

         8       President, this bill would have prospective

         9       employees of home care service agencies who

        10       have direct care or supervision of the elderly

        11       to make a sworn statement as to whether they

        12       have been convicted of a crime.

        13                       It would also assure adequate

        14       and appropriate supervision of employees and

        15       provide for grievance procedures against the

        16       home health care aide and home care

        17       agency.

        18                       Conviction of a crime would be

        19       a disqualification for employment unless five

        20       years elapse from the discharge from prison or

        21       probation and the applicant has been granted a

        22       Certificate of Relief From Disabilities by the

        23       court of jurisdiction.











                                                             
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         1                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Chair

         2       recognizes Senator Abate.

         3                       SENATOR ABATE:  Mr. President,

         4       will the Senator yield to a question?

         5                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         6       Skelos, do you yield?

         7                       SENATOR SKELOS:   Yes.

         8                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         9       yields.

        10                       SENATOR ABATE:   Senator, last

        11       year I voted for the bill and I certainly

        12       understand the rationale for the bill so that

        13       our most vulnerable in their own homes are

        14       protected, but I've reviewed the bill again

        15       this year and I notice that you included

        16       misdemeanors as well as felonies in terms of

        17       excluding possible employment.

        18                       Was there a rationale why you

        19       included misdemeanors in this list?

        20                       SENATOR SKELOS:  Because it's a

        21       crime.

        22                       SENATOR ABATE:   Well, why

        23       certain misdemeanors and not all misdemeanors?











                                                             
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         1                       SENATOR SKELOS:   Pardon me?

         2                       SENATOR ABATE:   You did not -

         3       am I correct that you did not -

         4                       SENATOR SKELOS:   If I'm

         5       correct, I believe a number of the crimes that

         6       are enumerated are similar to the ones that are

         7       enumerated for school bus drivers that drive

         8       kids back and forth to school; the difference

         9       is, they have to be fingerprinted and we

        10       originally, years ago when the bill was first

        11       introduced, would require fingerprinting;

        12       unfortunately, the more liberal inclinations of

        13       the other house, certainly not of the members

        14       of this house, do not like the idea of

        15       requiring a fingerprinting background check, so

        16       we went to a sworn statement which, if they did

        17       not tell the truth, they would perjure

        18       themselves.

        19                       SENATOR ABATE:   I guess my

        20       concern is, there are a number of misdemeanors,

        21       criminal mischief and others, that I would have

        22       liked and I don't know whether you will

        23       consider if this bill does not pass this year,











                                                             
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         1       particularly with the misdemeanor charges where

         2       someone is convicted.  If someone gets a Relief

         3       From Disabilities, a Certificate of Relief from

         4       the court because the court finds some

         5       mitigating circumstances and actually grants

         6       relief in a particular case, I was suggesting

         7       that the bill be amended, particularly as it

         8       relates to misdemeanors, that an individual

         9       could seek a Certificate of Relief From

        10       Disabilities so they perhaps could be eligible

        11       to work within that five-year period.

        12                       I guess, Senator, would you -

        13                       SENATOR SKELOS:   We do allow

        14       Relief From Civil Disabilities in the

        15       legislation.

        16                       SENATOR ABATE:   Is that

        17       right?  Okay.  I did not see that within the

        18       legislation.

        19                       SENATOR SKELOS:   Five years,

        20       I'm sorry.

        21                       SENATOR ABATE:   Okay, only

        22       after five years.

        23                       SENATOR SKELOS:   Yes.











                                                             
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         1                       SENATOR ABATE:   I guess my

         2       last question -- if you would yield to another

         3       question, Senator?

         4                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL: Senator,

         5       do you continue to yield?

         6                       SENATOR SKELOS:  Yes.

         7                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         8       Senator continues to yield.

         9                       SENATOR ABATE:   -- Is that

        10       would you take into consideration in the

        11       future, if, in fact, this bill does not pass

        12       this year, to look at the misdemeanors

        13       included, are they too broad in terms of the

        14       inclusion, and could a Certificate of Relief

        15       apply to some of these misdemeanors?

        16                       SENATOR SKELOS:   You know, I

        17       believe the bill is going to pass today as it

        18       has for the past several years.

        19                       SENATOR ABATE:  But if it does

        20       not become law.

        21                       SENATOR SKELOS:   It's my hope

        22       that the Assembly, when they wake up and want

        23       to be serious about protecting some of our most











                                                             
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         1       vulnerable citizens, that as we enter into

         2       negotiations, there are a number of things that

         3       could be discussed about the bill.

         4                       SENATOR ABATE:  I'm glad that,

         5       Senator, we will have your cooperation.   I

         6       think the intent of the bill is good.  I think,

         7       though, it needs to be refined further, but

         8       nonetheless, I'm prepared to vote for it.

         9                       SENATOR SKELOS:   Thank you.

        10                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Chair

        11       recognizes Senator Dollinger.

        12                       SENATOR DOLLINGER:   Mr.

        13       President, is there an amendment at the desk?

        14                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        15       Dollinger, I'm informed by the Secretary that

        16       an amendment to this particular bill has been

        17       handed up to the desk.

        18                       SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Mr.

        19       President, I would ask the reading of the

        20       amendment be waived and I be permitted to

        21       address the amendment.

        22                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        23       Amendment is received, the reading is waived











                                                             
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         1       and the Chair recognizes Senator Dollinger to

         2       explain his amendment.

         3                       SENATOR DOLLINGER:   Mr.

         4       President, this amendment carries the idea that

         5       Senator Skelos has touched on in the bill

         6       before us to another level and establishes a

         7       statewide registry for home health care

         8       workers, similar to the statewide registry that

         9       we have in effect for people that actually work

        10       in nursing homes.

        11                       I agree with Senator Skelos, I

        12       think his concern about the plight of elderly

        13       and frail people in the state is well-taken.

        14       He, I believe, is the former chairman of the

        15       Aging Committee, is maybe still the current

        16       chairman, has been a leader in the defense of

        17       those who are the most frail people in this

        18       state.

        19                       We already have a model for how

        20       such a registry could work because we have a

        21       registry for nurses' aides who work in nursing

        22       homes.  It has been extremely effective in

        23       weeding out the bad actors that come into our











                                                             
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         1       nursing home industry because they are not able

         2       to divulge false information at the time of

         3       applying.  That information can be checked

         4       through the registry and it can be determined

         5       whether or not on their initial credibility in

         6       applying for employment whether they're

         7       speaking truthfully or not.

         8                       It seems to me that that model

         9       would be extremely effective and pertinent here

        10       where there is even less supervision for home

        11       health care aides than there is in the nursing

        12       home industry when someone is confined in an

        13       institution.

        14                       In this instance, what this

        15       bill would do is establish a statewide registry

        16       for home health care aides, require that it be

        17       financed by the industry because they need to

        18       establish the same kind of credibility and

        19       protection for their users of home health care

        20       services.  It seems to me that's a reasonable

        21       thing to do.  The registry would be financed

        22       based on the volume of applicants that apply

        23       for positions with a particular provider, it











                                                             
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         1       would have a self-financing mechanism, it would

         2       provide an additional level of protection for

         3       those who are using home health care services.

         4                       I think we should get serious

         5       about this issue.  I agree with Senator Skelos

         6       that we should get serious about it.   I know

         7       that this bill has been considered by the

         8       Assembly in the past.  This amendment, a very

         9       similar bill, has been carried in the

        10       Assembly.

        11                       It seems to me if we want to

        12       provide a level of assurance to our senior

        13       citizens that they will be protected when they

        14       apply and utilize home health care services,

        15       the best way to do it is with a registry that

        16       maintains a list of those who are not competent

        17       to be working in this field because of

        18       disqualifying criminal activity.

        19                       So I would ask, Mr. President,

        20       that the amendment be approved by this house,

        21       that we add the notion that the registry will

        22       be the governing principle by which we

        23       determine who is eligible to be a home health











                                                             
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         1       care worker in this state.

         2                       Mr. President, with that I

         3       would ask for the support of all my colleagues

         4       for this amendment.

         5                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Is

         6       there any other Senator wishing to speak on the

         7       amendment?

         8                       (There was no response.)

         9                       Hearing none, the question is

        10       on the amendment to the legislation, Senate

        11       Calendar Number 413.   All those in favor of

        12       the amendment, signify by saying aye.

        13                       (Response of "Aye".)

        14                       Opposed, nay.

        15                       (Response of "Nay".)

        16                       The amendment is lost.

        17                       Chair recognizes Senator

        18       DiCarlo on the legislation before the house.

        19                       SENATOR DiCARLO:  Yes, Mr.

        20       President, just briefly as the chairman of the

        21       Aging Committee, I want to commend Senator

        22       Skelos for a fine piece of legislation.   This

        23       is something that's necessary to protect our











                                                             
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         1       most fragile citizens, our senior citizens, and

         2       I just want to urge its passage.

         3                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Any

         4       other Senator wishing to speak on the

         5       legislation before the house?

         6                       (There was no response.)

         7                       Hearing none, Secretary will

         8       read the last section.

         9                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.

        10       This act shall take effect on the 90th day.

        11                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call

        12       the roll.

        13                       (The Secretary called the

        14       roll.)

        15                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 55.

        16                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        17       bill is passed.

        18                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       218 by Senator Saland, Senate Print 2916A, an

        20       act to amend the State Administrative Procedure

        21       Act in relation to including the Workers'

        22       Compensation Board.

        23                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:











                                                             
1432

         1       Secretary will read the last section.

         2                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.

         3       This act shall take effect on the 30th day.

         4                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call

         5       the roll.

         6                       (The Secretary called the

         7       roll.)

         8                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 55.

         9                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        10       bill is passed.

        11                       Chair recognizes Senator

        12       Skelos.

        13                       SENATOR SKELOS:   Mr.

        14       President, if we could return to reports of the

        15       standing committees, I believe there's a report

        16       from the Finance Committee at the desk; I ask

        17       that it be read.

        18                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  You're

        19       absolutely correct, Senator Skelos.  We'll

        20       return to the rules of standing committees and

        21       I'll ask the Secretary to read the report.

        22                       THE SECRETARY:  Senator

        23       Stafford from the Committee on Finance offers











                                                             
1433

         1       up the following bill directly to Third

         2       Reading:  Senate Print 6098, Budget Bill, an

         3       act to amend Chapter 53 of the Laws of 1995

         4       enacting the aid to localities budget in

         5       relation to storm disaster assistance.

         6                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         7       Skelos.

         8                       SENATOR SKELOS:   Can we take

         9       up the bill at this time, Mr. President?

        10                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Ask the

        11       Secretary to read the bill.

        12                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        13       This act shall take effect immediately and

        14       shall be deemed to have been in full force and

        15       effect on April 1st, 1995.

        16                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        17       Secretary will read the last section -

        18       Secretary will read the title of the bill

        19       before the house.

        20                       THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        21       266, Senate Print 6098, Budget Bill, an act to

        22       amend Chapter 53 of the Laws of 1995 enacting

        23       the aid to localities budget.











                                                             
1434

         1                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

         2       Secretary will read the last section.

         3                       THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

         4       This act shall take effect immediately and

         5       shall be deemed in effect and full force on

         6       April 1st.

         7                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call

         8       the roll.

         9                       (The Secretary called the

        10       roll.)

        11                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Chair

        12       recognizes Senator Wright to explain his

        13       vote.

        14                       SENATOR WRIGHT:  Thank you, Mr.

        15       President.

        16                       In reviewing this legislation,

        17       you'll note that there's a total

        18       appropriation -

        19                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        20       Senator, excuse me, just a minute.  I know this

        21       seems to be a day when it's a little unruly,

        22       but let's quiet down so we can at least hear

        23       the Senator's explanation to the vote.











                                                             
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         1                       SENATOR WRIGHT:   Thank you,

         2       Mr. President -

         3                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         4       Wright.

         5                       SENATOR WRIGHT:  -- Appreciate

         6       that.  You will note in looking at this bill

         7       that it provides for an appropriation of $280

         8       million, the allocation is to a number of

         9       counties across this state; very candidly two

        10       of those counties, in fact, are in my

        11       district.

        12                       The bill addresses issues such

        13       as flooding, such as snow storms, blizzards, a

        14       number of tragedies, including fires on Long

        15       Island that I think we all recognize were

        16       troublesome.  Unfortunately, what it does not

        17       recognize is a phenomenon referred to as a

        18       microburst which was a severe windstorm that

        19       occurred throughout this state earlier this

        20       year.  And unfortunately, even after several

        21       appeals, the President and the federal

        22       government have yet to determine it to be a

        23       sufficient disaster to recognize federal











                                                             
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         1       funding.   That concerns me, concerns me

         2       because of the inconsistency of the standards

         3       being applied and, as a result, the people

         4       throughout my district and other areas in this

         5       state are not going to be reimbursed for their

         6       disaster losses that is not covered by this

         7       bill because of that federal inaction.

         8                       As much as that concerns me, I

         9       will vote in favor of this bill, but I want to

        10       take the opportunity to point out the

        11       inconsistencies of the federal determinations

        12       in terms of disaster assistance.

        13                       Thank you, Mr. President.

        14                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        15       Secretary will announce the results.

        16                       THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 55.

        17                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        18       bill is passed.

        19                       Chair recognizes Senator

        20       Skelos.

        21                       SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        22       on behalf of Senator Bruno and after

        23       consultation with the Minority Leader, I would











                                                             
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         1       like to hand up the following committee

         2       assignments to be filed at the desk.

         3                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  I

         4       thought it only necessary to have the quiet

         5       that your voice demands, the respect, Senator

         6       Skelos.  It is extremely noisy in here.

         7                       The committee list is at the

         8       desk and will be filed in the Journal, Senator

         9       Skelos.

        10                       SENATOR SKELOS:   Is there any

        11       housekeeping at the desk?

        12                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        13       Skelos?

        14                       SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        15       if we could return again to reports of standing

        16       committees, I believe there's a report from the

        17       Insurance Committee; I ask that it be read.

        18                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There

        19       is a report at the desk.  Senator Skelos, we'll

        20       return to the reports of standing committees

        21       and I'll ask the Secretary to read.

        22                       THE SECRETARY:  Senator Velella

        23       from the Committee on Insurance offers up the











                                                             
1438

         1       following bill directly for Third Reading:

         2       Senate Print 6147, an act to amend the

         3       Insurance Law in relation to termination of

         4       individual hospital and medical contracts.

         5                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         6       objection, the bill is ordered directly to

         7       Third Reading for tomorrow's action.

         8                       Senator Skelos.

         9                       SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        10       is there any other housekeeping at the desk?

        11                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There's

        12       nothing else at the desk, Senator Skelos.

        13                       SENATOR SKELOS:   There being

        14       no further business, I move we adjourn until

        15       Tuesday, February 27th, 1996, at 3 p.m.  Sharp.

        16                       ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        17       objection, the Senate stands adjourned until

        18       tomorrow, Tuesday, February 27th at 3 p.m.

        19       Sharp.

        20                       (Whereupon, at 3:37 p.m., the

        21       Senate adjourned.)

        22

        23