Regular Session - May 30, 1996

                                                                 
6131

         1

         2

         3

         4

         5

         6

         7

         8

         9                       ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                         May 30, 1996

        11                           11:02 a.m.

        12

        13

        14                       REGULAR SESSION

        15

        16

        17

        18       SENATOR JOSEPH L. BRUNO, Acting President

        19       STEPHEN F. SLOAN, Secretary

        20

        21

        22

        23











                                                             
6132

         1                      P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         3       Senate will come to order.  Members will find

         4       their places, guests find their places.  Ask

         5       everybody to rise and join with me in the saying

         6       the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.

         7                      (The assemblage repeated the

         8       Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  In the

        10       absence of clergy, may we bow our heads in a

        11       moment of silence.

        12                      (A moment of silence was

        13       observed. )

        14                      Reading of the Journal.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  In Senate,

        16       Wednesday, May 29th.  The Senate met pursuant to

        17       adjournment, Senator Kuhl in the Chair upon

        18       designation of the Temporary President.  Prayer

        19       by the Reverend Pastor Christian Schoenberg,

        20       Trinity Lutheran Church of Hawthorne.  The

        21       Journal of Tuesday, May 28th, was read and

        22       approved.  On motion, Senate adjourned.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Hearing











                                                             
6133

         1       no objection, the Journal stands approved as

         2       read.

         3                      Presentation of petitions.

         4                      Messages from the Assembly.

         5                      Messages from the Governor.

         6                      Reports of standing committees.

         7                      Reports of select committees.

         8                      Communications and reports from

         9       state officers.

        10                      Motions and resolutions.

        11                      Senator Marcellino.

        12                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Mr.

        13       President, on behalf of Senator Farley, on page

        14       number 31, I offer the following amendments to

        15       Calendar Number 912, Senate Print Number 6221,

        16       and ask that said bill retain its place on the

        17       Third Reading Calendar.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        19       Amendments to Calendar 912 are received and

        20       adopted.  The bill will retain its place on the

        21       Third Reading Calendar.

        22                      Senator Marcellino.

        23                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Also on











                                                             
6134

         1       behalf of Senator Farley, on page number 31 I

         2       offer the following amendments to Calendar

         3       Number 913, Senate Print Number 6222, and ask

         4       that said bill retain its place on the Third

         5       Reading Calendar.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

         7       Amendments to Calendar Number 913 are received

         8       and adopted.  The bill will retain its place on

         9       the Third Reading Calendar.

        10                      Senator Marcellino.

        11                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  On behalf of

        12       Senator Leibell, Mr. President, on page number

        13       30, I offer the following amendments to Calendar

        14       Number 900, Senate Print Number 5019, and ask

        15       that said bill retain its place on the Third

        16       Reading Calendar.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        18       Amendments are received and adopted.  Bill will

        19       retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

        20                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Thank you.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        22       Tully.

        23                      SENATOR TULLY:  Yes, Mr.











                                                             
6135

         1       President, on page 21, I offer the following

         2       amendments to Calendar 739, my bill, Senate

         3       Print Number 6839-A, and ask that said bill

         4       retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

         6       Amendments to Calendar Number 739 are received

         7       and adopted.  The bill will retain its place on

         8       the Third Reading Calendar.

         9                      Senator Tully.

        10                      SENATOR TULLY:  Mr. President, on

        11       page 21, I offer the following amendments to

        12       Calendar Number 740, my bill, Senate Print

        13       Number 6871-A, and ask that said bill retain its

        14       place on the Third Reading Calendar.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        16       Amendments are received and adopted.  Bill will

        17       retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

        18                      Senator Tully.

        19                      SENATOR TULLY:  Mr. President, on

        20       behalf of Senator Hoblock, on page 35, I offer

        21       the following amendments to Calendar Number 949,

        22       Senate Print Number 5842-A and ask that said

        23       bill retain its place on the Third Reading











                                                             
6136

         1       Calendar.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

         3       Amendments are received and adopted.  Bill will

         4       retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

         5                      Senator Tully.

         6                      SENATOR TULLY:  Yes, Mr.

         7       President, on behalf of Senator Libous, please

         8       place a sponsor's star on Calendar Number 717.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Calendar

        10       717 is starred at the request of the sponsor.

        11                      Senator Skelos.

        12                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        13       there will be an immediate meeting of the Rules

        14       Committee in Room 332 of the Capitol.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Immediate

        16       meeting of the Rules Committee in the Majority

        17       Conference Room, Room 332.  Immediate meeting of

        18       the Rules Committee in Room 332, the Majority

        19       Conference Room.

        20                      Senator Skelos.

        21                      SENATOR SKELOS:  On behalf of

        22       Senator Bruno, I offer up the following

        23       resolution and ask that the title be read and











                                                             
6137

         1       move for its immediate adoption.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         3       will read the title of the privileged

         4       resolution.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator Bruno,

         6       concurrent resolution of the Senate and

         7       Assembly, authorizing the Temporary President of

         8       the Senate and the Speaker of the Assembly to

         9       file an election to make certain officers and

        10       employees of joint legislative employers

        11       eligible for the retirement incentives offered

        12       by Chapter 30 of the Laws of 1996.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

        14       is on the resolution.  All those in favor

        15       signify by saying aye.

        16                      (Response of "Aye.")

        17                      Opposed nay.

        18                      (There was no response. )

        19                      The resolution is adopted.

        20                      Senator Skelos.

        21                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President, I

        22       offer the following resolution and ask that the

        23       title be read and move for its immediate











                                                             
6138

         1       adoption.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         3       will read the title of the privileged

         4       resolution.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator Bruno,

         6       legislative resolution commemorating the 125th

         7       Anniversary of the Castleton Fire Company to be

         8       celebrated on June 7 and 8, 1996.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

        10       is on the resolution.  All those in favor

        11       signify by saying aye.

        12                      (Response of "Aye.")

        13                      Opposed nay.

        14                      (There was no response.)

        15                      The resolution is adopted.

        16                      Senator Holland.

        17                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Mr. President,

        18       I believe there's another resolution at the

        19       desk.  I ask that the title be read and move its

        20       adoption.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        22       will read the title of the privileged

        23       resolution.











                                                             
6139

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator Bruno,

         2       legislative resolution commemorating the 20th

         3       season of the New York State Theatre Institute.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

         5       is on the resolution.  All those in favor

         6       signify by saying aye.

         7                      (Response of "Aye.")

         8                      Opposed nay.

         9                      (There was no response. )

        10                      The resolution is adopted.

        11                      Senator Holland.

        12                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Mr. President,

        13       I believe there's a privileged resolution at the

        14       desk by Senator Farley.  May we please have the

        15       title read and move its immediate adoption.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        17       will read the title of the privileged resolution

        18       by Senator Farley.

        19                      THE SECRETARY: By Senator Farley,

        20       legislative resolution commending the town of

        21       Charlton upon the occasion of its 28th Annual

        22       Founders Week End.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question











                                                             
6140

         1       is on the resolution.  All those in favor

         2       signify by saying aye.

         3                      (Response of "Aye.")

         4                      Opposed nay.

         5                      (There was no response. )

         6                      The resolution is adopted.

         7                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Mr. President.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         9       Holland, that brings us to the calendar.

        10                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Could we move

        11       the non-controversial calendar, please.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        13       will call the non-controversial calendar.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  On page 4,

        15       Calendar Number 41, by Senator Levy, Senate

        16       Print 331-A, an act to amend the Vehicle and

        17       Traffic Law, in relation to distinctive plates.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        19       will read the last section.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        21       act shall take effect on the 90th day.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        23       roll.











                                                             
6141

         1                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 33.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         4       is passed.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         6       262, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 2882-A, an

         7       act to amend the Education Law, in relation to

         8       the registration of licensed professionals.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        10       will read the last section.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        14       roll.

        15                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 33.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        18       is passed.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        20       456, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 2092-A, an

        21       act to amend the Education Law, in relation to a

        22       program for graduate student aid.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary











                                                             
6142

         1       will read the last section.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

         3       act shall take effect immediately.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         5       roll.

         6                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 33.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         9       is passed.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       504, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 5773-A,

        12       an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law, in

        13       relation to certificates of inspection.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        15       will read the last section.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        19       roll.

        20                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 32, nays

        22       one, Senator Kuhl recorded in the negative.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill











                                                             
6143

         1       is passed.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         3       577, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print 3233, an

         4       act to amend the General Business Law, in

         5       relation to limitations.

         6                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay it aside.

         7                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Lay aside for

         8       the day, please.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

        10       bill aside for the day.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        12       639, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 6505, an

        13       acted to amend the Energy Law, in relation to

        14       authorizing energy performance contracts.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        16       will read the last section.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

        18       act shall take effect immediately.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        20       roll.

        21                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 34.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill











                                                             
6144

         1       is passed.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         3       640, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 6537, an

         4       act to amend the Public Service Law, the Public

         5       Officers Law and the General Construction Law.

         6                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay that

         7       aside.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

         9       bill aside.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       659, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 6547, an

        12       act to legalize, certificate and confirm the

        13       acts of Lyndonville Central School District.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There's a

        15       local fiscal impact note at the desk.  Secretary

        16       will read the last section.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

        18       act shall take effect immediately.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        20       roll.

        21                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 36.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill











                                                             
6145

         1       is passed.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         3       685, by Senator Levy, Senate Print 6876-A, an

         4       act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law, in

         5       relation to the right of way.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         7       will read the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        11       roll.

        12                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 36.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        15       is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       697, by Senator Hoblock, Senate Print 6257-A, an

        18       act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

        19       prohibiting an employer from unlawfully

        20       penalizing a victim.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        22       will read the last section.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This











                                                             
6146

         1       act shall take effect on November 1st.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         3       roll.

         4                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 37.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         7       is passed.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       718, by Senator Libous, Senate Print Number

        10       6899, an act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law and

        11       the Education Law, in relation to providing

        12       mandate relief.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        14       will read the last section.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 10.  This

        16       act shall take effect immediately.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        18       roll.

        19                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 37.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        22       is passed.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number











                                                             
6147

         1       719, by Senator Cook, Senate Print 3220-B, an

         2       act to amend the Soil and Water Conservation

         3       Districts Law.

         4                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay aside,

         5       please.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

         7       bill aside.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       776, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 1434-B, an

        10       act authorizing the Commissioner of General

        11       Services.

        12                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay aside.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

        14       bill aside.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        16       792, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,

        17       Assembly Print 8244-A, an act to amend the

        18       Education Law, in relation to mandatory

        19       continuing education for dentists.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        21       will read the last section.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        23       act shall take effect January 1st.











                                                             
6148

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         2       roll.

         3                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 37.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         6       is passed.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       844, by Senator Levy, Senate Print 7311-A, an

         9       act to amend Chapter 96 of the Laws of 1993,

        10       amending the Highway Law and others.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        12       will read the last section.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        16       roll.

        17                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        20       is passed.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        22       846, by Senator Levy, Senate Print 7351-A, an

        23       act to amend the Public Authorities Law, in











                                                             
6149

         1       relation to the issuance of variable rate

         2       obligations.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         4       will read the last section.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         6       act shall take effect immediately.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         8       roll.

         9                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        12       is passed.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        14       849, by Senator Levy, Senate Print 7363, an act

        15       to amend the Public Authorities Law, in relation

        16       to jurisdiction.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        18       will read the last section.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 8.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        22       roll.

        23                      (The Secretary called the roll. )











                                                             
6150

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         3       is passed.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         5       867, by member of the Assembly Weisenberg,

         6       Assembly Print 8529-A, an act to amend the

         7       Executive Law and others, in relation to career

         8       education.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        10       will read the last section.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        14       roll.

        15                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        18       is passed.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        20       878, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 6892, an

        21       act to authorize the payment of transportation

        22       aid to the Baldwin Union Free School District.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There's a











                                                             
6151

         1       local fiscal impact note at the desk.  Secretary

         2       will read the last section.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         4       act shall take effect immediately.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         6       roll.

         7                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        10       is passed.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        12       879, by Senator Present, Senate Print 7031, an

        13       act to legalize, validate, ratify and confirm

        14       certain actions and proceedings.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        16       will read the last section.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

        18       act shall take effect immediately.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        20       roll.

        21                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill











                                                             
6152

         1       is passed.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         3       908, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 4005-D, an

         4       act creating the Temporary State Commission on

         5       the Livery Industry.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         7       will read the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 15.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        11       roll.

        12                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 39.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        15       is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       916, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,

        18       Assembly Print 8394-B, an act to amend the

        19       Education Law, in relation to the establishment

        20       of a community college region.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        22       will read the last section.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This











                                                             
6153

         1       act shall take effect immediately.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         3       roll.

         4                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 39.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         7       is passed.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       924, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,

        10       Assembly Print 7695-B, an act to amend the

        11       County Law and others, in relation to

        12       application of paragraph (d) of such section.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        14       will read the last section.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        16       act shall take effect immediately.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        18       roll.

        19                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 39.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        22       is passed.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number











                                                             
6154

         1       938, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 7089, an

         2       act to amend the County Law, in relation to

         3       authorizing county sewer districts.

         4                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Lay it aside.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

         6       bill aside.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       1012, by Senator Goodman, Senate Print 6639, an

         9       act authorizing the city of New York to reconvey

        10       its interest in certain real property.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There is

        12       a home rule message at the desk.  The Secretary

        13       will read the last section.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 5.  This

        15       act shall take effect immediately.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        17       roll.

        18                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        21       is passed.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        23       1056, by Senator Lack, Senate Print 4757-A, an











                                                             
6155

         1       act to amend the General Obligations Law, in

         2       relation to statutory short forms.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         4       will read the last section.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 8.  This

         6       act shall take effect on the 1st day of

         7       January.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         9       roll.

        10                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 41.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        13       is passed.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        15       1059, by Senator Hoblock, Senate Print 6260, an

        16       act to amend the Domestic Relations Law, the

        17       Public Health Law, the Executive Law and the

        18       State Finance Law.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        20       will read the last section.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 12.  This

        22       act shall take effect April 1st.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the











                                                             
6156

         1       roll.

         2                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 41.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         5       is passed.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         7       1069, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 7432, an

         8       act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law,

         9       in relation to providing for the removal of fill

        10       pipe.

        11                      SENATOR MALTESE:  At the request

        12       of the sponsor, can that be laid aside for the

        13       day.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        15       will be laid aside for the day.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1086, by Senator Goodman, Senate Print 7458.

        18                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay aside.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

        20       bill aside.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        22       1101, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 6324, an

        23       act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to











                                                             
6157

         1       unlawfully posting advertisements.

         2                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Lay it aside.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

         4       bill aside.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         6       1103, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 6529, an

         7       act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules,

         8       in relation to personal service.

         9                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay aside.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

        11       bill aside.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        13       1107, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 6840, an

        14       act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

        15       relation to security services.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        17       will read the last section.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

        19       act shall take effect immediately.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        21       roll.

        22                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 42.











                                                             
6158

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         2       is passed.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         4       1116, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 7492, an

         5       act to -

         6                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay aside.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

         8       bill aside.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        10       1130, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 549, an

        11       act to amend the Highway Law, in relation to

        12       authorizing the placement of drug-free school

        13       zone signs.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        15       will read the last section.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        19       roll.

        20                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 42.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        23       is passed.











                                                             
6159

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         2       1133, by member of the Assembly Gantt, Assembly

         3       Print 5979, an act to amend the Vehicle and

         4       Traffic Law, in relation to the license plates

         5       of rental vehicles.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         7       will read the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         9       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        11       roll.

        12                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 44.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        15       is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1135, by Senator Goodman, Senate Print 1605, an

        18       act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law, in

        19       relation to the time period in which complaints

        20       against motor vehicle repair shops may be made.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        22       will read the last section.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This











                                                             
6160

         1       act shall take effect on the 1st day of

         2       January.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         4       roll.

         5                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 43, nays

         7       one, Senator Kuhl recorded in the negative.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         9       is passed.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       1162, by member of the Assembly Magee, Assembly

        12       Print 9815, an act to amend the Highway Law, in

        13       relation to adding the Commissioner of

        14       Agriculture and Markets.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        16       will read the last section.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        18       act shall take effect immediately.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        20       roll.

        21                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 44.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill











                                                             
6161

         1       is passed.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         3       1169, by Senator Holland, Senate Print 6616-A,

         4       an act to amend Subdivision 1 of Section 2 of

         5       Chapter 155 of the Laws of 1986.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         7       will read the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        11       roll.

        12                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 44.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        15       is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1171, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 6990-A.

        18                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay aside.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

        20       bill aside.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        22       1174, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,

        23       Assembly Print 8120-A, an act to amend the











                                                             
6162

         1       Executive Law, in relation to increasing the

         2       amount for burial expenses.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         4       will read the last section.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         6       act shall take effect on the 1st day of

         7       November.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         9       roll.

        10                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 45.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        13       is passed.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        15       1184, by Senator Stafford, Senate Print 6531, an

        16       act to amend the Public Authorities Law, in

        17       relation to establishing the 1932 and 1980 Lake

        18       Placid Winter Olympic Museum.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        20       will read the last section.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        22       act shall take effect immediately.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the











                                                             
6163

         1       roll.

         2                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 45.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         5       is passed.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         7       1188, by Senator Marchi, Senate Print 6818, an

         8       act to amend the Limited Liability Company Law

         9       and the Partnership Law.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        11       will read the last section.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 6.  This

        13       act shall take effect immediately.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        15       roll.

        16                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 45.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        19       is passed.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        21       1206, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 5529

        22       A, an act to amend the Election Law, in relation

        23       to party nominations.











                                                             
6164

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         2       will read the last section.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 5.  This

         4       act shall take effect on the 1st day of

         5       December.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         7       roll.

         8                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 45.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        11       is passed.

        12                      Senator Holland, that completes

        13       the reading of the non-controversial calendar.

        14                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Mr. President,

        15       could we do the controversial calendar, please.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        17       will read the controversial calendar beginning

        18       with Calendar Number 640, by Senator Seward.

        19                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        21       Gold, why do you rise?

        22                      SENATOR GOLD:  Yeah, if I can

        23       impose, before we do that, yesterday we had











                                                             
6165

         1       Calendar Number 381, Senate 3520-A, by Senator

         2       DeFrancisco.  I was out of the chamber.  Could

         3       the record indicate if I were here I would have

         4       voted in the negative, and on Calendar Number

         5       1167, Senate Print 1468, by Senator Holland,

         6       would it please indicate that had I been here I

         7       would have voted in the negative.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         9       Gold, the record will reflect that had you been

        10       in the chamber yesterday when the roll call was

        11       called on Calendar Number 381 and also 1167,

        12       that you would have voted in the negative.

        13                      SENATOR GOLD:  Thank you.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        15       will read the con...

        16                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Mr. President.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        18       Leichter, why do you rise?

        19                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Would you

        20       please, with unanimous consent, record me in the

        21       negative on Calendar 1107.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  1107?

        23                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Yes.











                                                             
6166

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         2       objection, hearing no objection, Senator

         3       Leichter will be recorded in the negative on

         4       Calendar Number 1107.

         5                      Secretary will read the

         6       controversial calendar.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  On page 17,

         8       Calendar Number 640, by Senator Seward, Senate

         9       Print 6537, an act to amend the Public Service

        10       Law, the Public Officers Law and the General

        11       Construction Law, in relation to video

        12       conferencing.

        13                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Last section.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        15       will read the last section.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 6.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        19       roll.

        20                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 46.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        23       is passed.











                                                             
6167

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         2       719, by Senator Cook, Senate Print 3220-B, an

         3       act to amend the Soil and Water Conservation

         4       Districts Law, in relation to authorizing

         5       districts.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         7       will read the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 4.  This

         9       act shall take effect on the 1st day of June.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        11       roll.

        12                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 46.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        15       is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       776, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 1434-B, an

        18       act authorizing the Commissioner of General

        19       Services to sell certain land to the city of

        20       Beacon.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        22       will read the -- Secretary will read the last

        23       section.











                                                             
6168

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 4.  This

         2       act shall take effect immediately.

         3                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Party vote in

         4       the negative, Mr. President.

         5                      SENATOR HOLLAND: Party vote in

         6       the affirmative.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         8       Holland, what's your pleasure?

         9                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Mr. President,

        10       would you lay this bill aside for the day,

        11       please.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

        13       bill aside for the day.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        15       938, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 7089, an

        16       act to amend the County Law, in relation to

        17       authorizing county sewer districts.

        18                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Explanation.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        20       Larkin, an explanation of Calendar Number 938,

        21       Senate Bill 7089, has been asked for by Senator

        22       Dollinger.

        23                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Senator











                                                             
6169

         1       Dollinger, this bill was introduced at the

         2       request of the Orange County Legislature.  They

         3       want to amend the County Law to authorize the

         4       county sewer district to enter into certain

         5       agreements.

         6                      Part of it goes back to a federal

         7       executive order signed into law by then

         8       President Bush which gave back authority to

         9       local government to privatize and yet eliminate

        10       any debt owed to them by the federal

        11       government.

        12                      What we're doing here is we have

        13       a facility in Orange County that's reached its

        14       capacity.  There are no extra funds.  This was

        15       passed by the Legislature that those, in turn,

        16       representing the towns and villages and cities

        17       within Orange County, I say to you that we've

        18       had a moratorium on our plant because of

        19       expansion.  There can be no new business in that

        20       part of the county.  This is the only facility

        21       of its kind, and it's the belief of the county,

        22       their financial planners and all, their fiscal

        23       planners, that this is the best vehicle to go











                                                             
6170

         1       to.

         2                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Mr.

         3       President, if Senator Larkin will yield to just

         4       one question.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         6       Larkin, do you yield to a question from Senator

         7       Dollinger?

         8                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Yes, I will, Mr.

         9       President.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        11       yields.

        12                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  I laid the

        13       bill aside, Senator, because CSEA, I guess, put

        14       in a memo in opposition.

        15                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Mr. President, I

        16       can't hear him.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Can we

        18       have a little quiet in the chamber, please.

        19       Members take their conversations out of the

        20       chamber.

        21                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Through you,

        22       Mr. President, I laid the bill aside because

        23       there was a memo in opposition which suggested











                                                             
6171

         1       that there hadn't been any public input in the

         2       decision to do this, and my understanding from

         3       you is that there has been public input.  I

         4       assume there was a county legislative hearing

         5       before this bill every came -

         6                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Yes, there was,

         7       with a resolution from the county, sir.

         8                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  And I assume

         9       this comes with a home rule message from Orange

        10       County.

        11                      SENATOR LARKIN:  We weren't asked

        12       for a home rule message by home rule counsel,

        13       sir.

        14                      SENATOR DOLLINGER: O.K., but my

        15       understanding is that the Orange County

        16       Legislature has voted in favor of doing this.

        17                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Yes, they did.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        19       will read the last section.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        21       act shall take effect immediately.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        23       roll.











                                                             
6172

         1                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Announce

         3       the results when tabulated.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Those recorded in

         5       the negative on Calendar Number 938 are Senators

         6       Abate, Connor, Dollinger, Kruger, Lachman,

         7       Paterson, Stachowski.  Ayes 39, nays 7.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         9       is passed.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 1086, by

        11       Senator Goodman, Senate Print 7458, an act to

        12       amend the Tax Law, in relation to disclosure of

        13       tax returns.

        14                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Explanation.

        15                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Lay it aside

        16       temporarily.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Lay the

        18       bill aside temporarily.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 1101, by

        20       Senator LaValle, Senate Print 6324, an act to

        21       amend the Penal Law, in relation to unlawfully

        22       posting advertisements.

        23                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  An











                                                             
6173

         1       explanation, please.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         3       LaValle, an explanation of Calendar Number 1101

         4       has been requested by Senator Dollinger.

         5                      SENATOR LAVALLE:  Mr. President,

         6       this bill is very straightforward, but I'm going

         7       to start with why and what we're trying to

         8       accomplish, and then I think the words that

         9       we're adding here will begin to have some

        10       meaning.

        11                      Suffolk Community College had

        12       contacted my office and we also had the

        13       involvement of the trustees at the Community

        14       College because the campus has been flooded by

        15       flyers, and I have a Newsday story of the

        16       January 24th of this year.  The headline is

        17        "Flooded by Flyers, College Battles Bars that

        18       Dump Handbills on Campus.  They're a night club

        19       promoter's dream.  Flyers promising free drinks

        20       and free admissions to lure in crowds, and

        21       they're piled high in college classrooms and

        22       stuck on every car windshield in the college

        23       parking lot."











                                                             
6174

         1                      And so that really is the essence

         2       behind what the board of trustees at their meet

         3       ing in January, January 25th, in a resolution,

         4       that is trying to get a handle on approving the

         5       college or setting a policy for the college in

         6       the distribution of handbills, but asked us for

         7       some statutory changes, and we asked -

         8       communicated with the district attorney, D.A.

         9       James Catterson, on how we might approach this,

        10       and also asked some people at the -- at Turo Law

        11       School how we might approach this because we're

        12       obviously dealing with First Amendment rights,

        13       and I'm sure that's why Senator Dollinger raised

        14       the question, and what we're doing is we're

        15       adding to the Penal Law.  It's very, very

        16       simple.  It says, "A person is guilty of

        17       unlawfully posting advertisements when having no

        18       right to do so, any reason or ground to believe

        19       that he has such right, he posts, paints,

        20       affixes," what we're adding, the words "to or

        21       otherwise places upon the property of another

        22       person, any advertisement, poster," et cetera.

        23                      So the only thing I can imagine,











                                                             
6175

         1       Senator Dollinger, is that you have broader

         2       concerns, constitutional concerns in whether our

         3       language has a chilling effect on one's ability

         4       to distribute posters, and so forth.

         5                      We believe we don't. If you have

         6       a disparate view, certainly -

         7                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Mr.

         8       President, I don't even think I need to question

         9       Senator LaValle because it is so straight

        10       forward, and I appreciate the goal and certainly

        11       sympathize with the college's problems in the

        12       flood of this material designed for later

        13       adolescents to encourage consumption of alcohol

        14       or other activities that clearly may not be in

        15       their best interests and, frankly, we shouldn't

        16       have an interest in promoting them.

        17                      My concern is that I will stand

        18       guilty, I guess, and I don't know how many

        19       members of the Senate have stood here and said

        20       that they've violated a provision of the law,

        21       but when I ran for election in Monroe County, it

        22       was an age old tradition to take a flyer that

        23       said "Vote for Dollinger" and go into a parking











                                                             
6176

         1       lot and clip it on the windshield wiper on the

         2       day -- on election morning.  We used to have

         3       what we called the "black turtleneck brigade",

         4       that went out in black turtlenecks and went out

         5       into parking lots at 4:00 o'clock in the morning

         6       and put political information, information that

         7       officials running for office wanted the voter,

         8       it said, Today is election day, please vote;

         9       keep in mind Rick Dollinger.

        10                      It seems to me, and I wasn't

        11       aware that that may be illegal under this law.

        12       It may be illegal not only to do it in a private

        13       parking lot of an apartment house which I think

        14       I guess I can understand a greater basis once

        15       you get away from public property, but I always

        16       thought that at least putting it under the

        17       windshield of a car on a public street wasn't

        18       against the law, and it seems to me that what

        19       this bill does is it sweeps so broadly, and I -

        20       Senator, I appreciate what you're doing to

        21       append to this bill, I didn't even know this was

        22       in the Penal Law.

        23                      I believe the whole section may











                                                             
6177

         1       go too far in sweeping too many kinds of

         2       activities.  My guess is it's not rigorously

         3       enforced in this state.  My guess is that there

         4       have been very few prosecutions for doing this,

         5       but it seems to me that because of the danger of

         6       interfering with political discourse, that is a

         7       candidate running for office, in the Suffolk

         8       County Community College or at a Suffolk County

         9       institution says, I want to put my political

        10       advertisement up on the school bulletin board or

        11       I want to put a political cartoon up on the

        12       bulletin board, all of those things, assuming

        13       that he hasn't gotten approval beforehand would

        14       be illegal, technically illegal, under this

        15       provision.

        16                      So, Senator, I appreciate your

        17       concern; you're doing the right thing for your

        18       constituents.  I think you may be doing the

        19       right thing for a whole host of people in this

        20       state by trying to curb the unnecessary

        21       proliferation of this kind of massive stick it

        22       on the bulletin board, slap it up on the wall,

        23       put glue on the back of it, stick it every











                                                             
6178

         1       where, deface, litter, all of those things are

         2       commendable reasons to justify this, but I'm

         3       going to vote against it because I think it's

         4       overly broad and may infringe and may create a

         5       problem for those who are engaged in the type of

         6       political communication that's at the heart of

         7       this republic.

         8                      I'm always reminded about the

         9       pamphleteer who stood out on the street corner

        10       back in 1750 and said, Time for us to declare

        11       that we're going to break with England and we're

        12       going to stand on our own two feet.  They put

        13       billboards up, they put them up on the corners

        14       of walls; they put them up on British forts;

        15       they put them up on corners and street corners

        16       and defaced buildings throughout the United

        17       States.  It's one of the ways they were able to

        18       communicate and spread the word that we should

        19       be an independent country, so I guess it's in

        20       that tradition that I would be voting in the

        21       negative, although I, frankly, understand the

        22       basis for promoting it.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator











                                                             
6179

         1       Montgomery.

         2                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Mr.

         3       President, I would like to know if the sponsor

         4       would yield to just one question for

         5       clarification.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         7       LaValle, do you yield? Senator yields.

         8                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Senator

         9       LaValle, in the vein of what Senator Dollinger

        10       asked, I frequently -- as a matter of fact, I

        11       always when I'm campaigning stick flyers under

        12       the doors of my neighbors in my building, and

        13       would this -- would that be illegal under this

        14        -- under this bill?

        15                      SENATOR LAVALLE:  Well, I think

        16       what Senator Dollinger has said is that

        17       forgetting the amendment that we're making, that

        18       many of these activities that we -- we do

        19       because there is tradition and custom may, under

        20       the existing law, already be illegal, and so

        21       because it says here -- and I'll read again, A

        22       person is guilty of unlawfully posting

        23       advertisements when having no right to do











                                                             
6180

         1       so....

         2                      Well, if you're on someone's

         3       private property and they may have a prohibition

         4       against that, then you are in violation if

         5       you're sticking flyers in an apartment building

         6       which is private property already, forgetting

         7       what we're trying to do by making the simple

         8       changes and again, Senator Dollinger, I think,

         9       hit it on the -- on the head.  It's more

        10       substance than form here because we're talking

        11       about whether any additional changes would have

        12       a chilling effect on First Amendment rights, and

        13       again his commentary is whether the existing law

        14        -- the existing law is already broad.

        15                      We think we've gone -- we've

        16       tried to be very sensitive because we know what

        17       we're dealing with here in First Amendment

        18       rights.  We've tried to carve out the -- you

        19       know, another exception here to deal with a

        20       proliferation of litter and unwanted information

        21       on a campus which is a public place, rather than

        22       a private ground.

        23                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Mr.











                                                             
6181

         1       President, just for the record, even though I

         2       live in the building, Senator LaValle, it's

         3       considered an illegal act even under existing

         4       law, is that what you're -- it could possibly be

         5       interpreted as an illegal act for me to

         6       distribute (unintelligible) literature to my

         7       neighbors.

         8                      SENATOR LAVALLE:  It's

         9       questionable because one would say, what is your

        10       domi... I mean what is your residence?  Is it

        11       the entire building?  And you know, so you could

        12       get into -- you could get into some legal

        13       question.  That's why I found in law school

        14       constitutional cases were always very exciting

        15       because they brought about sides of the law or

        16       the Constitution that you really may not have

        17       thought about before, so that's what makes

        18       constitutional cases so exciting.

        19                      In really responding to your

        20       question, I think it's a coin toss in how you

        21       define what your residence and what your scope

        22       of authority is within your residence.

        23                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  O.K.











                                                             
6182

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         2       will read the last section.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

         4       act shall take effect on the 1st day of

         5       November.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         7       roll.

         8                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Announce

        10       the results when tabulated.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 48, nays 2,

        12       Senators Dollinger and Montgomery recorded in

        13       the negative.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        15       is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1103, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 6529, an

        18       act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules,

        19       in relation to personal service.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        21       will read the last section.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        23       act shall take effect on the 1st day of











                                                             
6183

         1       January.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         3       roll.

         4                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         7       is passed.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       1116, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 7492, an

        10       act to amend the Administrative Code of the city

        11       of New York and the Emergency Tenant Protection

        12       Act of 1974.

        13                      SAENATOR PATERSON:  Explanation.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        15       Leibell, an explanation of Calendar Number 1116

        16       has been asked for by the acting Minority

        17       Leader, Senator Paterson.

        18                      SENATOR LEIBELL:  Yes, Mr.

        19       President.

        20                      This is an act to amend the

        21       Administrative Code of the city of New York and

        22       the Emergency Tenant Protection Act of 1974, in

        23       relation to the calculation of awards of rent











                                                             
6184

         1       overcharges.

         2                      Our goal is to statutorily codify

         3       the original intent of this law and to establish

         4       a statute of limitations on challenges to rents

         5       and increases prior to a four-year period

         6       preceding the filing of an overcharge complaint

         7       by a tenant.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         9       Paterson.

        10                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Mr. President

        11       if Senator Leibell, would yield to a question.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        13       Leibell, do you yield?

        14                      SENATOR LEIBELL:  Yes, sir.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        16       yields.

        17                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Senator, the

        18       original intent of the law that we passed in

        19       1974 is what actually concerns me.  I'm afraid

        20       that, if we pass this bill, we're going to lock

        21       in a lot of illegal rents that actually exist.

        22                      Now, I can understand the statute

        23       of limitations for recovery, but what would











                                                             
6185

         1       apply in many cases that would be eliminated in

         2       this bill would be actually a bar to evidentiary

         3       information which would provide information for

         4       what the rent overcharge actually was and I'm

         5       afraid that if we pass this bill it truncates

         6       it. So my question is do you think that that

         7       really is the intent of the original legislation

         8       of 1984 or the Omnibus Housing Act that we

         9       passed in 1983 or would not it be better public

        10       policy to allow for the introduction of evidence

        11       even if it's beyond four years that would

        12       establish that some landlord or owner was

        13       overcharging the tenant?

        14                      SENATOR LEIBELL:  The reason for

        15       this bill is because there's been a discrepancy

        16       in two different appellate courts concerning

        17       what was the intent of the Legislature.  At the

        18       best, you're going to be able to go back and

        19       seek a return for overcharges of four years.

        20       What this legislation attempts to do, this bill,

        21       is to make certain that it would not be

        22       necessary to keep records beyond that point.  It

        23       isn't -- and it wouldn't be necessary to anyway











                                                             
6186

         1       because you couldn't recover for more those four

         2       years.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         4       Paterson.

         5                      SENATOR PATERSON:  If the Senator

         6       would continue to yield.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Do you

         8       continue to yield, Senator Leibell?

         9                      SENATOR LEIBELL:  Yes.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        11       continues to yield.

        12                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Thank you very

        13       much for the clarification, Senator, and that is

        14       important.  We're not trying to extend the

        15       statute of limitations for recovery, but the

        16       records could be extremely helpful to the

        17       recovering party, to the plaintiff, to the

        18       tenant, because it would establish that there

        19       was an overcharge and that it goes back beyond

        20       four years.  If the overcharge existed for the

        21       entire four years, there's no way to prove that

        22       there was ever a time perhaps that the over

        23       charge was originally installed, and although











                                                             
6187

         1       there is some disagreement between the First and

         2       Second Departments in terms of the

         3       interpretation of the existing legislation, and

         4       I understand that it is well held law, that what

         5       your legislation is trying to accomplish could

         6       be because it was -- it was sustained in one of

         7       our higher courts, but what I'm saying to you is

         8       that what I am saying which is that we need the

         9       evidence from previous -- that we need the in

        10       formation from going back beyond four years has

        11       also been sustained in a court, and so since the

        12       courts disagree and you and I are trying to work

        13       together to make new law, I'm just asking what

        14       the better public policy would be, and I'm

        15       suggesting that the better public policy would

        16       be that which sheds the greatest information

        17       that would bring about the most just result and

        18       that would, in my opinion, be that, if there's

        19       information or evidence that goes back beyond

        20       four years that would give the tenant an

        21       opportunity to recover not because we don't like

        22       the landlord but because the landlord is

        23       overcharging in this case, that I thought that











                                                             
6188

         1       that would be the better public policy and that

         2       that probably reflected the intent of the

         3       original legislation.

         4                      SENATOR LEIBELL:  Senator, if you

         5       can only recover for a four-year period looking

         6       backward, the information and the evidence which

         7       you allude to would be meaningless and would be

         8       only an exercise in keeping records.  Whether or

         9       not they would show anything, it would not have

        10        -- would have absolutely no bearing on the

        11       ability of a tenant to recover for the period of

        12       time in those four years.

        13                      So it would really be a question

        14       of keeping records for no purpose which we have

        15       frequently required, I think in government in

        16       the past in various areas, but I would not wish

        17       to see extended here.  There's no benefit to the

        18       tenant to keep those records.  They will not

        19       increase their recovery if, in fact, they do

        20       accomplish one and achieve one, and they're

        21       certainly no benefit to the landlord.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        23       Paterson.











                                                             
6189

         1                      SENATOR LEIBELL:  Mr. President,

         2       I want to thank Senator Leibell.

         3                      Mr. President, on the bill.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         5       Paterson, on the bill.

         6                      SENATOR PATERSON:  I think there

         7       is a benefit, and that's the reason that I have

         8       raised the questions.  We are not in any way

         9       limiting the landlord's rights under the statute

        10       here.  What we are doing is we are allowing for

        11       the existence of records that, if they really

        12       had no benefit and they really had no value and

        13       they really couldn't in some way assist the

        14       tenant, I'd suggest there would be no reason to

        15       pass a bill; but the records are not just

        16       ministerial.  The records are reflective of

        17       conduct and, although we are not trying to

        18       extend the statute of limitations for which the

        19       tenant can recover, we are trying to, in many

        20       ways, document what conduct or what information

        21       may provide a court with what would be the

        22       documentation that would allow for a decision

        23       that could be in favor of the tenant, and that











                                                             
6190

         1       information would be that the overcharge went

         2       back beyond four years and that the actual time

         3       of the overcharge existed from before the period

         4       in which the statute would allow the tenant to

         5       recover.

         6                      If we pass this legislation, and

         7       we in a sense eliminate the opportunity to look

         8       at these records, what we are inevitably

         9       accomplishing is to force the tenant to be in a

        10       sense going to court and negotiating in the dark

        11       because the information that might lead the

        12       court to realize that there is an overcharge

        13       existed prior to four years ago.

        14                      Now, the recovery shouldn't go

        15       back beyond four years, but certainly the

        16       investigation should because it in no way can

        17       hurt the landlord because the landlord can only

        18       be -- can only be charged for four years of rent

        19       overcharge.  The landlord could be hurt if the

        20       information demonstrates that the landlord was

        21       overcharging in the first place and, if that's

        22       the case and the landlord broke the law, we have

        23       protected the landlord under statute for how far











                                                             
6191

         1       the landlord can be penalized, but there's no

         2       reason to protect the landlord from discovery of

         3       the actual overcharge in the first place.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Is there

         5       any other Senator wishing to speak on the bill?

         6       Hearing none, the Secretary will read the last

         7       section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        11       roll.

        12                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Announce

        14       the results when tabulated.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Those recorded in

        16       the negative on Calendar Number 1116 are

        17       Senators Abate, Connor, Gold, Kruger, Lachman,

        18       Leichter, Markowitz, Montgomery, Oppenheimer,

        19       Padavan and Paterson.  Also Senators Onorato,

        20       Goodman and Velella.  Ayes 37, nays 14.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        22       is passed.

        23                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Mr.











                                                             
6192

         1       President.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         3       Leichter, why do you rise?

         4                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  May I have

         5       unanimous consent to be recorded in the negative

         6       on Calendar 938, please.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         8       objection, hearing no objection, Senator

         9       Leichter will be recorded in the negative on

        10       Calendar Number 938.

        11                      Senator Nanula, why do you rise?

        12                      SENATOR NANULA:  Mr. President, I

        13       too would like to express unanimous consent to

        14       be recorded in the negative on Calendar 938.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        16       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Nanula

        17       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        18       Number 938.

        19                      Senator Wright, why do you rise?

        20                      SENATOR WRIGHT:  Mr. President, I

        21       request unanimous consent to be recorded in the

        22       negative on Calendar Number 1135.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without











                                                             
6193

         1       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Wright

         2       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

         3       Number 1135.

         4                      Senator Goodman, why do you rise?

         5                      SENATOR GOODMAN:  Mr. President,

         6       if I had been present yesterday afternoon when

         7       Calendar Number 681 was called, I would have

         8       voted in the negative, and may the record so

         9       reflect that, please.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        11       Goodman, the record will reflect that had you

        12       been present in the chamber yesterday when the

        13       roll call on Calendar Number 681 was taken, that

        14       you would have voted in the negative.

        15                      Senator Padavan.

        16                      SENATOR PADAVAN:  Yes, Mr.

        17       President.  May I have unanimous consent to be

        18       recorded in the negative on Calendar 1135?

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        20       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Padavan

        21       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        22       Number 1135.

        23                      Senator Sears.











                                                             
6194

         1                      SENATOR SEARS:  May I also be

         2       recorded in the negative on Calendar Number

         3       1135?

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         5       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Sears

         6       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

         7       Number 1135.

         8                      Senator DeFrancisco.

         9                      SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:  Mr.

        10       President, I simply rise to welcome a couple of

        11       elementary schools, Danforth and Elmwood, to the

        12       Senate chambers, and they're going to watch how

        13       government works; and the only other thing I'm

        14       rising for is those of you in these chambers

        15       that enjoy jazz, this week end is the largest

        16       northeast jazz festival that we have that's free

        17       to everyone in the city of Syracuse.  All week

        18       end, everything's free, some of the greatest

        19       entertainers that you'd ever want to see.  It's

        20       as good as Marty Markowitz' performances in his

        21       district, maybe a little bit better.  So I

        22       welcome all of you to my district for this free

        23       jazz festival.











                                                             
6195

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         2       Tully, why do you rise?

         3                      SENATOR TULLY:  Mr. President,

         4       may I have unanimous consent to be recorded in

         5       the negative on Calendar 1135, please?

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         7       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Tully

         8       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

         9       Number 1135.

        10                      Secretary will continue to call

        11       the controversial calendar.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 1171, by

        13       Senator Libous, Senate Print 6990-A, an act to

        14       amend the Social Services Law, in relation to

        15       authorizing business corporations.

        16                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Explanation.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        18       Libous, an explanation of Calendar Number 1171

        19       has been requested by the acting Minority

        20       Leader, Senator Paterson.

        21                      SENATOR LIBOUS:  Thank you, Mr.

        22       President.

        23                      What this bill basically does











                                                             
6196

         1       would authorize business corporations other than

         2       corporations whose shares are traded on a

         3       national securities exchange to operate adult

         4       care facilities.

         5                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Mr.

         6       President.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         8       Dollinger.

         9                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  If you would

        10       just yield to one question.  I -- I've been

        11       concerned about the issues relating to private

        12       ownership.  Can you just tell me what's the

        13       genesis of this bill, why this bill is important

        14       at this time?

        15                      SENATOR LIBOUS: Right now, Mr.

        16       President, New York State not-for-profits are

        17       able to operate adult care facilities.  A couple

        18       years ago, I believe under Senator Holland's

        19       guidance along with a few other Senators in this

        20       chamber, there was some clean-up with adult care

        21       facilities.

        22                      There had been some reports that

        23       had been issued; there have been some real











                                                             
6197

         1       problems.  What this does is level the playing

         2       field and allows for-profit operations to now

         3       also be able to offer adult home care.

         4                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  O.K.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         6       will read the last section.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 6.  This

         8       act shall take effect immediately.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        10       roll.

        11                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Announce

        13       the results when tabulated.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 52, nays

        15       one, Senator Montgomery recorded in the

        16       negative.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        18       is passed.

        19                      Senator Holland, we have a couple

        20       of motions if you'd like to take those at this

        21       time.

        22                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  First, if you

        23       would recognize Senator Spano.











                                                             
6198

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Return to

         2       motions and resolutions.  The Chair recognizes

         3       Senator Rath.

         4                      SENATOR RATH:  Yes, Mr.

         5       President.  On page 62, I offer the following

         6       amendments to Calendar 994, Senate Print 7367.

         7       It is my bill, and and I ask that it retain its

         8       place on Third Reading Calendar.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        10       Amendments to Calendar Number 994 are received

        11       and adopted.

        12                      SENATOR RATH:  Thank you, Mr.

        13       Chairman.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  944,

        15       excuse me.

        16                      SENATOR RATH:  And on page 36, I

        17       offer the following amendments on behalf of

        18       Senator Maltese to Calendar 1198, Senate Print

        19       3086-B, and ask that said bill retain its place

        20       on Third Reading Calendar.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        22       Amendments received and adopted.  Bill will

        23       retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.











                                                             
6199

         1                      Senator Rath.

         2                      SENATOR RATH:  Additionally, Mr.

         3       President, one more time, I offer the following

         4       amendments to Calendar Number 1102, Senate Print

         5       6332-A, on behalf of Senator Maziarz, and ask

         6       that said bill retain its place on the Third

         7       Reading Calendar.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

         9       Amendments to Calendar 1102 are received and

        10       adopted. Bill will retain its place on the Third

        11       Reading Calendar.

        12                      Senator Spano.

        13                      SENATOR SPANO:  Mr. President, I

        14       ask unanimous consent to be recorded in the

        15       negative on 11... Calendar 1116.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        17       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Spano

        18       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        19       1116.

        20                      Senator Onorato, why do you rise?

        21                      SENATOR ONORATO:  Mr. President,

        22       I request unanimous consent to be recorded in

        23       the negative on Calendar Number 1135.











                                                             
6200

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         2       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Onorato

         3       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

         4       Number 1135.

         5                      Senator Saland, why do you rise?

         6                      SENATOR SALAND:  For purposes of

         7       housekeeping, Mr. President.  Would it be

         8       appropriate?

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        10       Absolutely.

        11                      SENATOR SALAND:  I'd like to

        12       remove a sponsor's star from Calendar 274,

        13       Senate 3502-C, and would also like to place

        14       sponsor's stars on Calendar 479, which is

        15       Assembly 510-B, and Calendar 962, which is 7 -

        16       Senate 7061.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Calendar

        18       479 and 962 will be starred at the request of

        19       the sponsor.  The sponsor's star on Calendar 274

        20       will be removed at the request of the sponsor.

        21                      Senator Marcellino, why do you

        22       rise?

        23                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Mr.











                                                             
6201

         1       President, if I may ask to be recorded in the

         2       negative on Calendar Number 1135.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         4       objection, hearing no objection, Senator

         5       Marcellino will be recorded in the negative on

         6       Calendar Number 1135.

         7                      Senator Holland, we had one last

         8       bill on the controversial calendar by Senator

         9       Goodman.  Would you like to take that up at this

        10       time?

        11                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Yes, Mr.

        12       President.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        14       will read the title.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar 1086, by

        16       Senator Goodman, Senate Print 7458, an act to

        17       amend the Tax Law, in relation to disclosure of

        18       tax returns.

        19                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Explanation.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        21       Goodman, an explanation of Calendar Number 1086

        22       has been requested by Senator Leichter.

        23                      SENATOR GOODMAN:  Mr. President,











                                                             
6202

         1       this is a Tax Department departmental bill, the

         2       purpose of which is to promote ethics in state

         3       government by permitting the disclosure of tax

         4       returns and reports and particulars set forth in

         5       those returns and reports in circumstances where

         6       such disclosure would be necessary in

         7       administrative actions or judicial proceedings

         8       affecting the personnel rights of employees of

         9       the Department of Taxation and Finance and

        10       certain employees of the Department of Audit and

        11       Control, and also where it is necessary to

        12       subject such employees to criminal prosecution

        13       for offenses which threaten the integrity of the

        14       tax administration.

        15                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Mr. President.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        17       Leichter.

        18                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Mr. President,

        19       Senator Goodman, this sounds like a meritorious

        20       bill.  I'm going to give you the opportunity to

        21       make it a great bill and to strike a real blow

        22       for open government and on behalf of the

        23       taxpayers of the state of New York by moving an











                                                             
6203

         1       amendment which I've served on you and on the

         2       Majority and which is at the desk, and I ask

         3       that that amendment be called forth now.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Your

         5       amendment is at the desk, Senator Leichter.  The

         6       reading of it is waived, and you are now

         7       afforded the opportunity to explain your

         8       amendment.

         9                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Good.  Very

        10       simply, what my amendment does is to make

        11       corporate tax returns public and initially that

        12       may put some people back in saying, Well, my

        13       God, don't we have confidentiality on tax

        14       returns, something that is so private, so

        15       confidential.  Yes, for you, for me, for

        16       individuals, but it should not be for

        17       corporations and indeed for many years the law

        18       of the state of New York was that corporate tax

        19       returns were made public.

        20                      Certainly a corporation doesn't

        21       partake of that sense of privacy that we afford

        22       to individuals.  Now, why do you want to make

        23       corporate tax returns public?  For very good











                                                             
6204

         1       reason.  For very good reason.  Because we do

         2       not know at this time the amount that corpora

         3       tions pay.  We know the total but we don't know

         4       the amount that individual corporations pay nor

         5       do we really know the effects of tax abatements

         6       and subsidies and other tax breaks that we give

         7       under our law.

         8                      It is my belief that General

         9       Electric, one of the state's largest corpora

        10       tions, a most profitable corporation -- I think

        11       it's total profits last year were four billion.

        12       I think it pays its president a salary that

        13       approaches a hundred million dollars a year.  I

        14       don't believe that they pay any New York State

        15       corporate franchise tax because they take

        16       advantage of benefits that we've given; they

        17       take advantage of other loopholes in the law.

        18                      We have no way of judging the

        19       effectiveness or the consequences of these tax

        20       breaks unless these corporate returns are made

        21       public, and I tell you, you on the other side

        22       who like to speak about the rights of taxpayers

        23       and helping lift the burden of taxation from the











                                                             
6205

         1       people of this state, one of the ways you could

         2       do it is to disclose corporate tax returns which

         3       will then guide the Legislature and the Governor

         4       in fashioning fair and responsible and workable

         5       tax policies for corporations.

         6                      There is no sanction at this time

         7       that should be accorded the corporate tax

         8       return.  I'm just asking you to think about it.

         9       Why should we not know the taxes that

        10       corporations pay? If you want to eliminate Sub

        11       Chapter S corporations, I have no problem with

        12       that and they should probably not be included,

        13       but certainly larger corporations that, by their

        14       very nature, are publicly owned, I think that

        15       the public has a right to know what taxes these

        16       corporations pay or do not pay.

        17                      So, Senator Goodman, your bill

        18       which deals with a very limited area where we

        19       breach the confidentiality of tax returns for

        20       purposes of investigation to allow people to

        21       defend themselves would really become a most

        22       tremendous bill, would be a major effort on our

        23       part to open up government and to enable us to











                                                             
6206

         1       fashion a workable tax policy.

         2                      Mr. President, I move the

         3       amendment.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

         5       is on the amendment.  All those for the

         6       amendment, signify by saying aye.

         7                      (Response of "Aye.")

         8                      Opposed, signify by saying nay.

         9                      (Response of "Nay.")

        10                      In a close vote, the amendment is

        11       lost.

        12                      On the bill.  Senator Paterson.

        13                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Mr. President,

        14       if Senator Goodman would yield for a question.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        16       Goodman, will you yield to Senator Paterson?

        17       Senator yields.

        18                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Senator

        19       Goodman, if, other than in situations involving

        20       fraud where the employee of the tax commission

        21       is obviously -- that the information is vital to

        22       the pursuance of an indictment, what I want to

        23       know is, are there any other types of











                                                             
6207

         1       proceedings that the employee -- where the tax

         2       records would be open?

         3                      SENATOR GOODMAN:  I'm sorry.  I

         4       had difficulty hearing the question, Senator.

         5       Would you say it? There are other -- perhaps you

         6       could just repeat it briefly.

         7                      Mr. President, may we have some

         8       order in the chamber so I can hear the Senator,

         9       please?  I guess it's a little quieter now.

        10                      Go ahead, Senator.

        11                      SENATOR PATERSON:  To repeat the

        12       question to Senator Goodman, what other

        13       situations would be -- would the dissemination

        14       of the information be necessary other than say a

        15       fraud proceeding where there's an intent to

        16       establish criminality on the part of the

        17       employee?

        18                      SENATOR GOODMAN:  Well, the

        19       essence of it is I don't think there would be

        20       many because the objective of the bill is to

        21       subject such employees to criminal prosecution

        22       where they're being subjected to criminal

        23       prosecution for offenses which threaten the











                                                             
6208

         1       integrity of the tax administration or severely

         2       interfere with the integrity of the tax

         3       administration, in short where the Department

         4       determines that one of its employees is involved

         5       in hanky-pank of any kind which would have a

         6       criminal implication, they would then have the

         7       right to examine the tax returns to determine

         8       whether they have contain information that would

         9       be of relevance.

        10                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Thank you,

        11       Senator Goodman.

        12                      Mr. President, on the bill.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        14       Paterson, on the bill.

        15                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Perhaps if

        16       Senator Goodman is interested, he may just want

        17       to give us his reflections based on my

        18       observation.  We just want to make sure that the

        19       tax policy over the years which has established

        20       the secrecy and the confidentiality of records

        21       that the individual taxpayer would maintain

        22       would not be violated for anything other than

        23       what would be a criminal investigation against











                                                             
6209

         1       the employee or a criminal investigation against

         2       the specific taxpayer.

         3                      If there were proceedings against

         4       an employee, I would hate for the circumstance

         5       to become so speculative that perhaps all the

         6       tax records would be open that the employee

         7       worked on, to see whether or not the employee

         8       was at fault or was engaging in any kind of

         9       fraud.

        10                      So when there is a threshold and

        11       there is a need to examine these records and to

        12       make them available to a prosecutor or to a

        13       court, I certainly can understand what Senator

        14       Goodman is trying to achieve in this bill, and

        15       it's really quite meritorious.

        16                      My concern arises around the

        17       possibility that the records could be used as

        18       part of a wide investigation or in a sense a

        19       kind of hunting expeditious where there's the

        20       perception that fraud may exist but it's hard to

        21       exactly demonstrate where it is and at that

        22       point the records would be open and a number of

        23       people who would be paying their taxes and are











                                                             
6210

         1       citizens of high standing have their

         2       confidentiality broken and their tax records

         3       examined.

         4                      If it is restricted to the

         5       specific situations where an amount of evidence

         6       meets the threshold test that there must be this

         7       kind of investigation and that this is vital to

         8       the conviction of individuals who broke the law,

         9       if it stays in that realm, then I think that the

        10       bill is quite fine.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        12       will read the last section.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        16       roll.

        17                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The chair

        19       recognizes Senator Dollinger to explain his

        20       vote.

        21                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Mr.

        22       President, I agree with Senator Goodman that the

        23       integrity of this Department is important.  I'm











                                                             
6211

         1       going to vote in favor of this bill.  I would,

         2       however, suggest that there's one small thing

         3       that could be done which would improve the

         4       integrity of this Department, and that would be

         5       to repeal the current rules and regulations that

         6       allow the Commissioner to approve his own

         7       vouchers.

         8                      Recent published reports that

         9       were published this week end in my paper suggest

        10       that this Commissioner signed vouchers for

        11       himself so that he could go to political fund

        12       raisers for people in this chamber and in the

        13       other house, that he was submitting vouchers to

        14       have his suits pressed, and it seems to me that

        15       the integrity of this Department starts right at

        16       the top, and I would suggest that a little rule

        17       change, a little accounting change, probably

        18       good practice that says when you submit a

        19       voucher you have someone else sign off on it to

        20       make sure it's consistent with the Department

        21       and the best interest of the taxpayers in the

        22       state of New York.

        23                      Little tiny change like that











                                                             
6212

         1       could go a long way to finishing off the high

         2       respect and integrity that this Department

         3       needs, it currently enjoys, and it should

         4       continue to maintain.

         5                      So this is a good step in that

         6       direction; I wish the Commissioner would do one

         7       other piece as well.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  How do

         9       you vote, Senator Dollinger?

        10                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Aye.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        12       Dollinger votes in the affirmative.

        13                      The Secretary will announce the

        14       results.  Would the negatives on this bill raise

        15       their hands one more time?

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54, nays 1,

        17       Senator Waldon recorded in the negative.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        19       is passed.

        20                      Senator Holland.

        21                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Mr. President,

        22       can we return to the reports of standing

        23       committees? I believe there's a report from the











                                                             
6213

         1       Rules Committee.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There is

         3       one at the desk.  I'll ask the Secretary to read

         4       after I recognize Senator Santiago.

         5                      SENATOR SANTIAGO:  Thank you, Mr.

         6       President.  I would like to be recorded in the

         7       negative on Calendar 1116, please.  Thank you.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         9       objection, hearing no objection, Senator

        10       Santiago will be recorded in the negative on

        11       Calendar Number 1116.

        12                      Senator Mendez, why do you rise?

        13                      SENATOR MENDEZ:  Thank you.  I

        14       ask unanimous consent to be recorded in the

        15       negative on Calendar Number 938 and 1116.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        17       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Mendez

        18       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        19       Number 938 and 1116.

        20                      SENATOR WALDON:  Mr. President.

        21                      SENATOR MENDEZ:  Thank you.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        23       Waldon, why do you rise?











                                                             
6214

         1                      SENATOR WALDON:  Thank you very

         2       much, Mr. President.  I rise because I also ask

         3       unanimous consent to be recorded in the negative

         4       on 938 and 1116.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         6       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Waldon

         7       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar 938

         8       and 1116.

         9                      Senator LaValle, why do you

        10       rise?

        11                      SENATOR LAVALLE:  Mr. President,

        12       may I have unanimous consent to be recorded in

        13       the negative on Calendar Number 1135.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        15       objection, hearing no objection, Senator LaValle

        16       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        17       1135.

        18                      Senator Smith, why do you rise?

        19                      SENATOR SMITH: Thank you, Mr.

        20       President.  I would like unanimous consent to be

        21       recorded in the negative on Calendar Number 938

        22       and 1116.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  1116?











                                                             
6215

         1                      SENATOR SMITH:  Yes.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  O.K.

         3       Without objection, hearing no objection, Senator

         4       Smith will be recorded in the negative on

         5       Calendar Number 938 and 1116.

         6                      Senator Saland.

         7                      SENATOR SALAND:  Mr. President, I

         8       too would request unanimous consent for purposes

         9       of being recorded in the negative on Calendar

        10       1135.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        12       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Saland

        13       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        14       Number 1135.

        15                      Senator Holland.

        16                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Rules Committee

        17       report, please, sir.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        19       will read the Rules Committee report.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Bruno,

        21       from the Committee on Rules, reports the

        22       following bills:

        23                      Senate Print 7608, by Senator











                                                             
6216

         1       Cook, an act to amend the Education Law and the

         2       Local Finance Law;

         3                      612, by Senator Stafford, an act

         4       to amend the Environmental Conservation Law;

         5                      935-A, by Senator Larkin, an act

         6       to amend the Navigation Law;

         7                      1633, by Senator Hoblock, an act

         8       authorizing the city of Albany to enact a

         9       locally established parking violations amnesty;

        10                      1999, by Senator Nozzolio, an act

        11       to amend the General City Law;

        12                      4254-A, by Senator Larkin, an act

        13       to authorize the town of Cornwall;

        14                      5143-A, by Senator Markowitz, an

        15       act authorizing the city of New York to reconvey

        16       its interest;

        17                      5958, by Senator Holland, an act

        18       in relation to discontinuing the Spring Valley

        19       toll plaza;

        20                      6009-B, by Senator Bruno, an act

        21       to amend the Environmental Conservation Law;.

        22                      6503-A, by Senator Larkin, an act

        23       to authorize the town of Blooming Grove, Orange











                                                             
6217

         1       County;

         2                      6762-A, by Senator Saland, an act

         3       in relation to legalizing and validating the

         4       adoption of a bond resolution;

         5                      6959-A, by Senator Velella, an

         6       act authorizing the Commissioner of General

         7       Services;

         8                      And 7577, by Senator Levy, an act

         9       to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

        10                      All bills ordered directly for

        11       third reading.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        13       Holland.

        14                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President.

        15                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Mr. President,

        16       I move we adopt the report of the Rules

        17       Committee.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Motion is

        19       to adopt the report of the Rules Committee.  All

        20       those in favor, signify by saying aye.

        21                      (Response of "Aye.")

        22                      Opposed nay.

        23                      (There was no response. )











                                                             
6218

         1                      The report is accepted.  All

         2       bills reported directly to third reading.

         3                      Senator DiCarlo.

         4                      SENATOR DiCARLO:  Mr. President,

         5       I ask unanimous consent to be recorded in the

         6       negative on Calendar 1135.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         8       objection, hearing no objection, Senator DiCarlo

         9       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        10       1135.

        11                      Senator Gold.

        12                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President, I

        13       ask unanimous consent to be voted in the

        14       negative on Calendar Number 938.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        16       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Gold

        17       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        18       Number 938.

        19                      Senator Marcellino.

        20                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Mr.

        21       President, for one of the bills that was just

        22       read out of the rules Committee, so there's no

        23       page number, I offer the following amendments to











                                                             
6219

         1       Calendar Number 1289, Senate Print Number 7577,

         2       and ask that the bill retain its place on the

         3       Third Reading Calendar.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

         5       Amendments are received and adopted.  The bill

         6       will retain its place on the Third Reading

         7       Calendar.

         8                      Senator Marcellino.

         9                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Mr.

        10       President, on behalf of Senator Nozzolio, I wish

        11       to call up Print Number 5965-B, recalled from

        12       the Assembly which is now at the desk.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        14       will read the title.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        16       461, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 5965-B,

        17       an act to amend the Correction Law.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        19       Marcellino.

        20                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Mr.

        21       President, I now move to reconsider the vote by

        22       which this bill was passed.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary











                                                             
6220

         1       will call the roll on reconsideration. )

         2                      (The Secretary called the roll on

         3       reconsideration. )

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 57.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         6       Marcellino.

         7                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Mr.

         8       President, please star the bill.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        10       is starred.

        11                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        13       Oppenheimer.

        14                      SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:  I'd like to

        15       be recorded in the negative on 938 with

        16       unanimous consent.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        18       objection, hearing no objection, Senator

        19       Oppenheimer will be recorded in the negative on

        20       Calendar Number 938.

        21                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Any other

        22       housekeeping?

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:











                                                             
6221

         1       Everything's taken care of.

         2                      Senator Holland.

         3                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Yes, Mr.

         4       President.  Senator Bruno has requested a

         5       Majority Conference, very brief Majority

         6       Conference immediately following the close of

         7       this session.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There

         9       will be an immediate Majority Conference in the

        10       Majority Conference Room, Room 332.  Immediate

        11       Majority Conference in the Majority Conference

        12       Room, Room 332.

        13                      Senator Holland.

        14                      SENATOR HOLLAND:  Mr. President,

        15       there being no further business I move we

        16       adjourn until Monday, June 3rd, at 3:00 p.m.,

        17       intervening days being legislative days.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        19       objection, the Senate stands adjourned until

        20       Monday at 3:00 p.m.

        21                      (Whereupon at 12:18 p.m., the

        22       Senate adjourned.)

        23