Regular Session - June 24, 1996

                                                                 
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         9                       ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                         June 24, 1996

        11                           1:01 p.m.

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        14                       REGULAR SESSION

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        18       SENATOR JOHN R. KUHL, JR., Acting President

        19       STEPHEN F. SLOAN, Secretary

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         1                      P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         3       Senate will come to order.  Ask the members to

         4       find their places, staff to find their places.

         5       I'd ask everybody in the chamber to rise with me

         6       and join with me in saying the Pledge of

         7       Allegiance, and please remain standing for the

         8       invocation.

         9                      (The assemblage repeated the

        10       Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

        11                      We are very pleased to be joined

        12       by the Reverend Peter G. Young of the Blessed

        13       Sacrament Church of Bolton Landing, who will

        14       deliver the invocation.

        15                      Father Young.

        16                      REVEREND PETER G. YOUNG:  Thank

        17       you, Senator.

        18                      Let us pray on this beautiful

        19       spring-summer day.

        20                      We pray for all of our New York

        21       State that their wealth and their power might

        22       become a force for peace rather than conflict, a

        23       source of hope rather than discontent, to act as











                                                             
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         1       an agent of friendship rather than enmity.  May

         2       the actions of this Senate then be that example

         3       for all.  Amen.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Amen.

         5                      Reading of the Journal.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  In Senate,

         7       Sunday, June 23rd.  The Senate met pursuant to

         8       adjournment, Senator Farley in the Chair upon

         9       designation of the Temporary President.  The

        10       Journal of Saturday, June 22nd, was read and

        11       approved.  On motion, Senate adjourned.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Hearing

        13       no objection, the Journal stands approved as

        14       read.

        15                      Presentation of petitions.

        16                      Messages from the Assembly.

        17                      Secretary will read.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  The Assembly

        19       sends for concurrence Senate Bill 7553-A, with

        20       an Assembly Reprint Number 30016-A.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        22       Johnson.

        23                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Yes.  There











                                                             
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         1       will be an immediate meeting of the Rules

         2       Committee in Room 332, followed by a Finance

         3       Committee meeting.  That's it.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  For the

         5       benefit of the members who didn't hear Senator

         6       Johnson, there will be an immediate meeting of

         7       the Rules Committee in the Majority Conference

         8       Room.  Immediate meeting of the Rules Committee

         9       in the Majority Conference Room, Room 332.  That

        10       will be followed by an immediate meeting of the

        11       Finance Committee.

        12                      Senator Larkin.

        13                      The message from the Assembly is

        14       before the house.  The Chair recognizes Senator

        15       Larkin.

        16                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Mr. President, I

        17       move that the Senate not concur in the said

        18       amendments and move to reconsider the vote by

        19       which this bill was passed.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        21       will call the roll on reconsideration.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Senate Bill

        23       Number 1468, by the Senate Committee on Rules,











                                                             
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         1       Senate Bill Number 7553-A, Assembly Reprint

         2       30016-A, an act to amend the Public Health Law.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         4       Larkin.

         5                      SENATOR LARKIN:  I move that the

         6       bill have its third reading at this time.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         8       roll on reconsideration.

         9                      (The Secretary called the roll on

        10       reconsideration. )

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 46.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        13       is before the house.

        14                      Senator Larkin, now, your

        15       motion.

        16                      SENATOR LARKIN:  I now move the

        17       bill have its third reading at this time.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        19       will read the last section.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 21.  This

        21       act shall take effect immediately.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        23       roll.











                                                             
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         1                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 46.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         4       is passed.

         5                      Messages from the Governor.

         6                      Reports of standing committees.

         7                      Secretary will read the report of

         8       the Senate Finance Committee.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        10       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        11       following bills:

        12                      7880-A, by the Senate Committee

        13       on Rules, an act making appropriations for the

        14       support of government;

        15                      7881, by the Senate Committee on

        16       Rules, an act making appropriations for the

        17       support of government and to amend Chapter 63 of

        18       the Laws of 1996;

        19                      All bills ordered directly for

        20       third reading.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Bills

        22       ordered directly to third reading.

        23                      Reports of select committees.











                                                             
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         1                      Communications and reports from

         2       state officers.

         3                      Motions and resolutions.

         4                      Senator Larkin, that brings us to

         5       the calendar.

         6                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Can we take up

         7       now Calendar Number 1675, Senate Bill 7880,

         8       which was just reported from the Finance

         9       Committee.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  For the

        11       benefit of the members, the bills are on your

        12       desk if you care to read them.

        13                      Secretary will read Calendar

        14       Number 1675.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Bruno

        16       moves to discharge from the Committee on Rules

        17       Assembly Bill Number 11204 and substitute it for

        18       the identical Third Reading Calendar 1675.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        20       Substitution is ordered.  Secretary will read

        21       the title.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        23       1675, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,











                                                             
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         1       Assembly Print Number 11204, an act making

         2       appropriations for the support of government.

         3                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Is there a

         4       message at the desk?

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         6       Larkin, there is a message of necessity and

         7       appropriation at the desk.

         8                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Move to accept

         9       the messages.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Motion is

        11       to accept the message of appropriation at the

        12       desk.  All those in favor signify by saying

        13       aye.

        14                      (Response of "Aye.")

        15                      Opposed nay.

        16                      (There was no response.)

        17                      The message is accepted.

        18       Secretary will read the last section.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        22       roll.

        23                      (The Secretary called the roll. )











                                                             
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         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 46.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

         3       is passed.

         4                      Senator Johnson.

         5                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Take up

         6       Calendar Number 1676.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         8       will read.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Bruno

        10       moves to discharge from the Committee on Rules

        11       Assembly Bill Number 11203 and substitute it for

        12       the identical Third Reading Calendar 1676.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        14       Substitution is ordered.  Secretary will read

        15       the title.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       1676, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,

        18       Assembly Print 11203, an act making

        19       appropriations for the support of government and

        20       to amend Chapter 63 of the Laws of 1996.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        22       Johnson.

        23                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Is there a











                                                             
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         1       message of appropriation at the desk?

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There is

         3       a message of appropriation at the desk, Senator

         4       Johnson.

         5                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  I move to

         6       accept the message of appropriation.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Motion to

         8       accept the message of appropriation on Calendar

         9       1676.  All those in favor signify by saying

        10       aye.

        11                      (Response of "Aye.")

        12                      Opposed nay.

        13                      (There was no response. )

        14                      The message is accepted.

        15       Secretary will read the last section.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        19       roll.

        20                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 46.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        23       is passed.











                                                             
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         1                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  May we please

         2       return to reports of standing committees.  I

         3       believe there is a report from the Rules

         4       Committee at the desk.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  We'll

         6       return to the order of reports of standing

         7       committees.  Secretary will read the report of

         8       the Rules Committee.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Bruno,

        10       from the Committee on Rules, reports the

        11       following bills:

        12                      Senate Print 6718, by Senator

        13       Velella, an act to amend Chapter 934 of the Laws

        14       of 1985;

        15                      7537-A, by Senator Hannon, an act

        16       to amend the Public Health Law, Chapter 922 of

        17       the Laws of 1990, amending the Public Health Law

        18       and other laws relating to reimbursement;

        19                      7879, by Senator Larkin, an act

        20       in relation to dissolving the corporate

        21       existence of a certain not-for-profit

        22       corporation; and

        23                      7884, by Senator Bruno, an act to











                                                             
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         1       amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

         2                      All bills ordered directly for

         3       third reading.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         5       Johnson.

         6                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Mr. President,

         7       I move we accept the report of the Rules

         8       Committee.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Motion is

        10       to accept the report of the Rules Committee.

        11       All those in favor signify by saying aye.

        12                      (Response of "Aye.")

        13                      Opposed nay.

        14                      (There was no response. )

        15                      The Rules report is accepted.

        16       All bills ordered directly for third reading.

        17                      Senator Johnson.

        18                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  May we return

        19       to the motions and resolutions calendar at this

        20       time.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Return to

        22       the order of motions and resolutions.

        23                      Senator Johnson.











                                                             
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         1                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  I move that we

         2       adopt the Resolution Calendar.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         4       motion is to accept and adopt the Resolution

         5       Calendar which is on the members' desks.  All

         6       those in favor signify by saying aye.

         7                      (Response of "Aye.")

         8                      Opposed nay.

         9                      (There was no response. )

        10                      The Resolution Calendar is

        11       adopted.

        12                      Senator Johnson.

        13                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Is there a

        14       resolution by Senator Goodman at the desk?  Like

        15       to have it read.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There is

        17       a privileged resolution at the desk.

        18                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  May we read the

        19       title and move the resolution at this time.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        21       will read the title of the privileged resolution

        22       by Senator Goodman.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator











                                                             
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         1       Goodman, Legislative Resolution honoring the

         2       memory of Louis J. Lefkowitz.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The Chair

         4       recognizes Senator Goodman on the resolution.

         5                      SENATOR GOODMAN:  Mr. President,

         6       one of the most beloved and respected figures in

         7       the recent politics and government of the state

         8       of New York was the Attorney General who served

         9       longer in that office than any other in our

        10       history, who died on Thursday night late but, as

        11       his son pointed out, just in time to be included

        12       in the late edition of the New York Times

        13       obituary on Friday.  In this facetious fashion,

        14       he pointed to the extraordinarily adept manner

        15       in which the Attorney General was able to

        16       utilize the media and to mold public opinion for

        17       purposes which I think we'd all agree were

        18       admirable and very much in the interest of the

        19       people of the state of New York.

        20                      Louis J. Lefkowitz was a product

        21       of Manhattan's East Side, born in an environment

        22       essentially extremely poor and emerging from it

        23       in a fashion that can only excite the greatest











                                                             
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         1       respect.  He ran first for an Assembly seat in a

         2       totally Democratic district and was presumed to

         3       be a sitting duck, one who would be readily

         4       defeated but, as he went from door to door with

         5       his indomitable energy, he said, Please give me

         6       your vote so that I'm not disgraced in this

         7       election.

         8                      The attempt to avoid being

         9       disgraced in the election turned into an upset

        10       victory which launched one of the most

        11       extraordinary political careers in the history

        12       of the state.

        13                      Louis Lefkowitz was an individual

        14       who served by appointment of Mayor Fiorella

        15       LaGuardia as a judge in the city of New York and

        16       subsequently upon the election of Jacob J.

        17       Javits to the United States Senate, succeeded

        18       him as the Attorney General of the state.

        19                      Up to that point, the office of

        20       Attorney General was essentially devoted to

        21       defending the state against actions being

        22       brought against it in the state courts, but

        23       Louis Lefkowitz converted this essentially











                                                             
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         1       defensive definition of the job into one which

         2       involved an aggressive concern with the

         3       interests of people, and particularly consumers,

         4       all around the state and that dedicated

         5       redefinition of mission resulted in his becoming

         6       known as "the people's lawyer", a moniker which

         7       stuck with him for the rest of his life.

         8                      He was a close confidante of

         9       Governor Rockefeller and indeed was the only

        10       individual invited consistently by the Governor

        11       to stay with him in the Executive Mansion

        12       whenever he was in Albany, and the bond between

        13       these two men, and their productive partnership,

        14       greatly benefited all of the people.

        15                      Louis Lefkowitz was a man with a

        16       photographic memory.  To campaign with him was

        17       an experience that one could never forget once

        18       having done it.  I can recall walking the

        19       streets of New York with him in my first

        20       election a number of years ago.  We would start

        21       at a certain street, and he would enter every

        22       retail establishment within view.  We would go

        23       into beauty parlors and shake the hand of every











                                                             
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         1       woman under a dryer.  We would go into barber

         2       shops and shake the hand of every man in a

         3       barber chair.

         4                      In short, Louis Lefkowitz had a

         5       comprehensive concept of campaigning and the

         6       remarkable thing about his style was that once

         7       he learned a name, he never forgot it, and not

         8       only did he remember the individual he had met

         9       but he remembered the stories about their

        10       families so that to walk the streets of New York

        11       with Louis Lefkowitz was to be treated with an

        12       encyclopedia not only of Joe Smith, but of his

        13       Aunt Maude, his nephew Luigi, or whoever it

        14       might have been, and a complete understanding of

        15       everybody's problem in a sense that Louis

        16       Lefkowitz cared about people.

        17                      Mr. President we shall not see

        18       his like again in this state, and yesterday at

        19       his funeral in New York encomiums were delivered

        20       by the Governor of the state, the junior Senator

        21       from New York State, the Mayor of the city of

        22       New York, and a whole range of notables, all of

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         1       farewell to an absolutely unique New York

         2       product.

         3                      He had a razor sharp legal mind

         4       and a heart of gold.  We shall always remember

         5       him.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         7       Johnson, did you have an announcement?

         8                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Yes, Mr.

         9       President.

        10                      I'd like to re-announce that

        11       there's a meeting, ongoing meeting now, of the

        12       Finance Committee and we encourage all members

        13       to be there, Room 332.  Subsequent to that,

        14       we'll have a meeting of the Corporations

        15       Committee in that same room.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Immediate

        17       meeting of the Senate Finance Committee in Room

        18       332, Majority Conference Room.  Immediate

        19       meeting of the Senate Finance Committee in Room

        20       332.

        21                      Senator Farley, on the

        22       resolution.

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         1       like to rise and agree with Senator Goodman that

         2       what a remarkable person that Louis Lefkowitz

         3       was and what a fine human being, a great

         4       Attorney General, but perhaps more interesting,

         5       one of the most unique politicians, I think,

         6       that ever was elected to office, a person that

         7       has really set the gold standard for -- to get

         8       elected in a district where he was outnumbered

         9       registrationwise, and perhaps one of the top

        10       vote getters that this state has ever seen.

        11                      I understand that Louis Lefkowitz

        12        -- I can still see him to this day campaigning

        13       in Schenectady at the GE gates, going with both

        14       hands and saying "Hi" to everybody and he

        15       certainly, for almost all his 91 years, was

        16       vibrant and, when I saw him just a few short

        17       years ago, there didn't seem to be very much

        18       change in him.

        19                      He was a remarkable Attorney

        20       General, a remarkable human being, and somebody

        21       that this -- that really made his mark in this

        22       state and set the standard for excellence in

        23       public service.











                                                             
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         1                      He'll be missed.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         3       question is on the resolution.  All those in

         4       favor signify by saying aye.

         5                      (Response of "Aye.")

         6                      Opposed nay.

         7                      (There was no response. )

         8                      The resolution is adopted.

         9                      Senator Hoffmann, why do you

        10       rise?

        11                      SENATOR HOFFMANN:  Mr. President,

        12       I was out of the chamber when 1675 was called

        13       up.  I request unanimous consent to be recorded

        14       in the negative.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        16       objection.

        17                      SENATOR HOFFMANN:  Thank you.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Hearing

        19       no objection, Senator Hoffmann will be recorded

        20       in the negative on Calendar Number 1675.

        21                      Senator Wright.

        22                      SENATOR WRIGHT:  Mr. President, I

        23       ask unanimous consent to be recorded in the











                                                             
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         1       negative on Calendar Number 1675.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         3       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Wright

         4       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

         5       Number 1675.

         6                      Senator DiCarlo.

         7                      SENATOR DiCARLO:  Mr. President,

         8       I ask unanimous consent to be recorded in the

         9       negative on Calendar Number 1675.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        11       objection, hearing no objection, Senator DiCarlo

        12       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        13       Number 1675.

        14                      Senator Nozzolio.

        15                      SENATOR NOZZOLIO:  Mr. President,

        16       I ask unanimous consent to be recorded in the

        17       negative on Calendar Number 1675.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        19       objection, hearing no objection, Senator

        20       Nozzolio will be recorded in the negative on

        21       Calendar Number 1675.

        22                      Senator Oppenheimer.

        23                      SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:  With











                                                             
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         1       unanimous consent, 1675, also in the negative.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         3       objection, hearing no objection, Senator

         4       Oppenheimer will be recorded in the negative on

         5       Calendar Number 1675.

         6                      Senator Levy?  Senator Alesi.

         7                      SENATOR ALESI:  Mr. President, I

         8       ask unanimous consent to be recorded in the

         9       negative on Calendar Number 1675.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        11       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Alesi

        12       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        13       Number 1675.

        14                      Senator Maziarz.

        15                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Thank you, Mr.

        16       President.

        17                      Mr. President, without objection,

        18       I'd like to be recorded in the negative on

        19       Calendar Number 1675.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        21       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Maziarz

        22       will be recorded negative on Calendar Number

        23       1675.











                                                             
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         1                      Senator Libous.

         2                      SENATOR LIBOUS:  Thank you, Mr.

         3       President.

         4                      Could I have unanimous

         5       consideration to be recorded in the negative on

         6       Calendar 1675, please.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         8       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Libous

         9       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        10       Number 1675.

        11                      Senator Johnson.

        12                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Mr. President,

        13       may you at this time go back to the Resolution

        14       Calendar, read Senator Rath's resolution, the

        15       title, and adopt it at this time.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        17       will read the title to Senator Rath's privileged

        18       resolution, which is at the desk.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator Rath,

        20       Legislative Resolution mourning the death of

        21       Louis R. "Lou" Woolcock, Director of the New

        22       York State Department of Transportation Office

        23       of Internal Audit and Investigations.











                                                             
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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         2       Rath, on the resolution.

         3                      SENATOR RATH:  Mr. President, I

         4       would like my colleagues to join with me in a

         5       moment of consideration of a life of Lou

         6       Woolcock which ended much too quickly last

         7       Monday at 54 years of age.

         8                      I think many of you would

         9       recognize Lou as being the husband of my

        10       director of my Albany office, Marina Woolcock.

        11       Lou worked for the Department of Transportation,

        12       and you might see in the resolution that was

        13       developed, you would recognize in Lou something

        14       that we see in all of the people who love

        15       government and love politics and love being

        16       nexus between the two.

        17                      And in remembering Lou, I think

        18       the most urgent thing that I can think of,

        19       because I know we're moving along quickly in our

        20       deliberations today, and I would like to say a

        21       word of appreciation to a system that gives us a

        22       person who cared so much about the integrity of

        23       the system and about the honor of the traditions











                                                             
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         1       that we all work in, that his loss will be felt

         2       by many, many people for a long time to come and

         3       pray that our system will continue to bring to

         4       the top and bring to the surface people who care

         5       so much and work so hard to do what is so

         6       right.

         7                      Thank you.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

         9       is on the resolution.  All those in favor

        10       signify by saying aye.

        11                      (Response of "Aye.")

        12                      Opposed nay.

        13                      (There was no response. )

        14                      The resolution is adopted.

        15                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Mr. President.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        17       Leichter, why do you rise?

        18                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Since there

        19       seems to be a lull in our proceeding, I was at a

        20       meeting of the Conference Committee on the

        21       pesticide bill, so I wasn't in the chamber when

        22       I understand there was a resolution honoring the

        23       memory and the service of Louis Lefkowitz, and I











                                                             
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         1       just wanted to say just a couple words.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         3       Johnson, do you have any objection to Senator

         4       Leichter addressing the chamber on the

         5       resolution that passed for a few moments?

         6                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Mr. President,

         7       I believe it's very appropriate at this time to

         8       do so.

         9                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Good.  Thank

        10       you, Senator Johnson.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        12       Leichter.

        13                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  I was

        14       yesterday at the very moving services for the

        15       former Attorney General, and the Governor and

        16       the Mayor and others spoke very perceptively

        17       about him and his service to the state.

        18                      I just wanted to make one point

        19       that I thought was so important because in part,

        20       you know, people look at Louis Lefkowitz and see

        21       him somewhat as a figure of the past, but

        22       there's really so much, I think, that all of us

        23       could learn from his life of service, and I











                                                             
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         1       thought it was important for me to get up as a

         2       Democrat.

         3                      I was here in the Legislature

         4       when the Attorney General was in office.  I had

         5       very little contact with him, but I admired him

         6       and I just wanted to make the point that, in a

         7       day and age when I think partisanship has become

         8       much sharper and more acute and when politics, I

         9       think, drives our actions as never before, I

        10       think it's worthwhile looking at somebody like

        11       Louis Lefkowitz who, yes, he was active

        12       politically, but I think that he really embodied

        13       the idea that public service is to accomplish

        14       goals and reach achievements for the people of

        15       the state, the people that you serve and if you

        16       get political credit as a result and political

        17       benefits, that's really secondary, and I think

        18       we all might take some moments to think about

        19       that and, as a lesson I think to all of us that

        20       the best politician is really the one who serves

        21       the people, as certainly Louis Lefkowitz did for

        22       so many years.

        23                      I assume that every member of the











                                                             
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         1       Legislature, of the Senate, was included in the

         2       resolution.  Certainly I want to be.

         3                      Thank you very much, Mr.

         4       President.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Thank

         6       you, Senator Leichter.

         7                      Senator DiCarlo, we're on motions

         8       and resolutions.  Did you have a couple motions?

         9                      SENATOR DiCARLO:  Mr. President,

        10       on behalf of Senator Marcellino, I wish to call

        11       up bill Print Number 6902 recalled from the

        12       Assembly which is now at the desk.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        14       will read the title.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        16       898, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 6902,

        17       an act to amend the Environmental Conservation

        18       Law.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        20       DiCarlo.

        21                      SENATOR DiCARLO:  Mr. President,

        22       I now move to reconsider the vote by which this

        23       bill was passed.











                                                             
8892

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         2       will call the roll on reconsideration.

         3                      (The Secretary called the roll on

         4       reconsideration. )

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         7       DiCarlo.

         8                      SENATOR DiCARLO:  Mr. President,

         9       I now offer the following amendments.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Amend

        11       ments are received and adopted.

        12                      SENATOR DiCARLO:  Mr. President,

        13       on behalf of Senator Maziarz, I wish to call up

        14       bill Print Number 7431, recalled from the

        15       Assembly which is now at the desk.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        17       will read the title.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       1015, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 7431, an

        20       act to authorize the construction of new school

        21       facilities.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        23       DiCarlo.











                                                             
8893

         1                      SENATOR DiCARLO:  Mr. President,

         2       I now move to reconsider the vote by which this

         3       bill was passed.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

         5       will call the roll on reconsideration.

         6                      (The Secretary called the roll on

         7       reconsideration.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        10       DiCarlo.

        11                      SENATOR DiCARLO:  Mr. President,

        12       I now offer the following amendments.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Amend

        14       ments are received and adopted.

        15                      Senator Johnson.

        16                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Mr. President,

        17       now I'd like to take up Calendar Number 1679.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        19       will read the title.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Larkin

        21       moves to discharge from the Committee on Rules

        22       Assembly Bill Number 8662-A and substitute it

        23       for the identical Third Reading Calendar 1679.











                                                             
8894

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

         2       Substitution is ordered.  Secretary will read.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         4       1679, by member of the Assembly Matusow,

         5       Assembly Print 8662-A, an act in relation to

         6       dissolving the corporate existence of a certain

         7       not-for-profit corporation.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Any

         9       Senator wishing to speak on the bill?

        10                      Senator Larkin.

        11                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Mr. President,

        12       this is a very significant piece of legislation

        13       as far as we're concerned.

        14                      This is an issue that's been at

        15       hand since 1994 when this organization was given

        16       not-for-profit status by then Secretary of State

        17       Gail Shaffer.  This organization has been a

        18       front for the National Man Love Boy Association.

        19       Not-for-profit status should be given to an

        20       organization that is promoting good human

        21       dignity and all of the things that we hold near

        22       and dear to us.  This organization has totally

        23       evaded the issues, has not responded and has











                                                             
8895

         1       done other things that have made it a front.

         2                      What we want to do is to get this

         3       organization out and we want to further remove

         4       all organizations associated with it, and I

         5       thank my colleagues for supporting me on this

         6       legislation.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         8       Leibell, on the bill.

         9                      SENATOR LEIBELL:  Thank you, Mr.

        10       President.

        11                      First, I'd like to commend my

        12       colleague, Senator Larkin.  I think this is one

        13       of the most important pieces of legislation that

        14       will go through this chamber during this general

        15       session this year.  Senator Larkin has spent a

        16       great deal of time and effort in working to

        17       solve what has been a very difficult problem

        18       created through the granting of this

        19       not-for-profit status to this corporation.  I've

        20       looked -- I've liked very much working with him

        21       on this issue.  I once again congratulate him.

        22       I think he's done an excellent job.

        23                      Thank you.











                                                             
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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Any other

         2       Senator wishing to speak on the bill?  Hearing

         3       none, the Secretary will read the last section.

         4                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

         7       roll.

         8                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        11       is passed.

        12                      Senator Johnson.

        13                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Oh, now we'd

        14       like to take up Senate 6718, Mr. President.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        16       will read the substitution.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Velella

        18       moves to discharge from the Committee on Rules

        19       Assembly Bill Number 9576 and substitute it for

        20       the identical Third Reading Calendar 1677.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        22       Substitution is ordered.  Secretary will read

        23       the title.











                                                             
8897

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         2       1677, by member of the Assembly Gottfried,

         3       Assembly Print 9576, an act to amend Chapter 934

         4       of the Laws of 1985.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Is there

         6       any Senator wishing to speak on the bill?

         7       Hearing none, the Secretary will read the last

         8       section.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        10       act shall take effect immediately.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        12       roll.

        13                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        16       is passed.

        17                      Senator Johnson.

        18                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Now, may we

        19       take up Senate 7537-A.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        21       will read the title.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        23       1678, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 7537-A, an











                                                             
8898

         1       act to amend the Public Health Law, Chapter 922

         2       of the Laws of 1990, amending the Public Health

         3       Law and other laws, relating to reimbursement.

         4                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay aside,

         5       please.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         7       Paterson, we're on the debate calendar.  Are you

         8       asking for an explanation?

         9                      SENATOR PATERSON:  I'm sorry, Mr.

        10       President.  We're on the -- that we're on the

        11       controversial calendar.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Yes.

        13                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Oh, I'm sorry,

        14       Mr. President.  I'm just getting back into

        15       form.  Yes.  May we have an explanation of

        16       that?

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        18       Hannon, an explanation of -- it's Senate 7537-A

        19       has been asked for by Senator Paterson.

        20                      SENATOR HANNON:  Thank you, Mr.

        21       President.

        22                      Yes, this measure deals with

        23       three programs in regard to health care for New











                                                             
8899

         1       Yorkers.  It deals with the Child Health

         2       Insurance Program.  It deals with regional pilot

         3       projects for the uninsured, and the excess

         4       medical malpractice insurance program.

         5                      The regional pilot projects is an

         6       experimental project that was first begun in

         7       1988.  This would continue that.  Two types of

         8       programs are now in operation, an individual

         9       subsidy program through which individual -

        10       eligible individuals are helped in getting

        11       health insurance for themselves and their

        12       families, as well as an employer incentive

        13       program through which certain employers receive

        14       help in purchasing insurance coverage for their

        15       employees.

        16                      The excess medical malpractice

        17       insurance program begun in the '80s is

        18       continued.  This is providing the extra $1

        19       million worth of insurance to physicians in this

        20       state done through the hospital system; and the

        21       third is the Child Health Insurance Program.

        22       This is continued.  It allows families with

        23       children 14 and under who are not eligible for











                                                             
8900

         1       Medicaid and do not have health insurance to

         2       receive assistance in purchasing health

         3       insurance through participating approved

         4       carriers.

         5                      This would be funded under the

         6       existing fund surplus to the system.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         8       Paterson.

         9                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Mr. President,

        10       if Senator Hannon would yield to a question.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        12       Hannon, do you yield to a question?

        13                      SENATOR HANNON:  Yes, Senator.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        15       yields.

        16                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Senator, with

        17       respect to the child health program for new

        18       enrollees and children who would become eligible

        19       for the program after July 1st, what would

        20       happen to them? I know the Governor wants to

        21       expand the child program, and maybe that can be

        22       negotiated into the budget, but now as it stands

        23       with this bill what would happen to new











                                                             
8901

         1       enrollees after July 1st?

         2                      SENATOR HANNON:  Absent -- we

         3       only continue through this the continuation of

         4       current enrollees under the Child Health

         5       Insurance Program and, by the way, this bill is

         6       really in a sense only if the whole NYPHRM

         7       system were to lapse, so we're not projecting

         8       that this is what we desire but this is just to

         9       make sure that children who are currently

        10       getting that coverage were to continue, so I do

        11       not anticipate that we'll be able to expand it

        12       even for new enrollees.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        14       Paterson.

        15                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Thank you,

        16       Senator.

        17                      We understand the need for these

        18       programs and there certainly is -- this

        19       certainly is a good piece of legislation, but it

        20       is somewhat disappointing in that if there may

        21       be some other avenues that we may explore during

        22       the NYPHRM extension or NYPHRM readjustment or

        23       whichever way we might work this out in the











                                                             
8902

         1       budget.  The fact is that there really is no

         2       room for expansion, for enrollees who are

         3       children, after July 1st and that is quite

         4       disappointing.  Even if there's a -- if we are

         5       relying on some other course of action, I would

         6       have thought it more foresighted to have it have

         7       appeared in the legislation, and I just wanted

         8       to put that on the record for all of the young

         9       people who need services, who need health

        10       protection and would not get it based on just

        11       what would be the dicta of the legislation, even

        12       though I concede that it's probably not what the

        13        -- what the final program would be.

        14                      The fact is that, just as the

        15       bill stands, I feel the need to point that out.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        17       Hannon, on the bill.

        18                      SENATOR HANNON:  Senator, on the

        19       bill.

        20                      Your point is well taken, and I

        21       would point out that, as our statement of

        22       intent, we look through the system that we and

        23       the Majority have proposed for the hospital











                                                             
8903

         1       reimbursement system under the bill that passed

         2       in this house about ten days ago.  We expanded

         3       the child health program to those 18 years of

         4       age and under.  We expanded the benefits

         5       available, and we think that that is the way to

         6       go and that is fully our intent, and so that's

         7       why I think I can fully agree with you.

         8                      Thank you, Mr. President.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Any other

        10       Senator wishing to speak on the bill? Hearing

        11       none, the Secretary will read the last section.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 13.  This

        13       act shall take effect June 30th.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        15       roll.

        16                      (The Secretary called the roll. )

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        19       is passed.

        20                      Senator Johnson.

        21                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Any

        22       housekeeping, Mr. President?

        23                      SENATOR COOK:  Mr. President.











                                                             
8904

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         2       Cook, why do you rise?

         3                      SENATOR COOK:  Mr. President, if

         4       I may, with unanimous consent, I'd like to just

         5       offer a very brief comment about a resolution

         6       we've already passed if that's acceptable.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         8       Johnson?  Hearing no objection, Senator Cook.

         9                      SENATOR COOK:  Mr. President, as

        10       happens from time to time we have staff members

        11       who have done great service to the Senate who

        12       move on to other things, but we have an

        13       opportunity today to just recognize one of these

        14       people.  We've already passed his resolution

        15       last week, but Jim Cultrara, who has been a

        16       staff member for the Education Committee going

        17       all the way back to the time when Senator

        18       Donovan was chairman, he has served on several

        19       legislative staffs here and has been an in

        20       valuable resource for so many people in this

        21       chamber, has opted to take some optional

        22       employment, different employment, at the end of

        23       this week, and I simply wanted to rise to first











                                                             
8905

         1       recognize Jim's great service to myself and to

         2       everybody else in this chamber and also to wish

         3       him well in his new endeavors.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Thank

         5       you, Senator Cook.

         6                      (Applause)

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         8       Levy.

         9                      SENATOR LEVY:  Yes, Mr.

        10       President.

        11                      Earlier this afternoon, while the

        12       Long Island legislators were out of the chamber,

        13       a resolution was passed mourning the tragic

        14       death of Assemblyman Philip Healey, and we just

        15       wanted the record to be clear that we are going

        16       to be talking about the tragedy of Phil Healey's

        17       death, but not this afternoon.  His beautiful

        18       wife Geneva, and his family, are coming up on a

        19       date to be set by the Assembly to have a suited

        20       memorial in Phil's memory and we will all be

        21       holding our remarks until that day when Geneva

        22       is here for the Assembly and the family is here

        23       and then will come over to the Senate and we











                                                             
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         1       just wanted the record to be clear on that

         2       matter.

         3                      Thank you very much.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Thank

         5       you, Senator Levy.

         6                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Mr. President,

         7       I would like to announce that there is an

         8       immediate meeting of the Corporations Committee

         9       in 332, Room 332.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There

        11       will be an immediate meeting of the Corporations

        12       Committee, immediate meeting of the Corporations

        13       Committee in the Majority Conference Room, Room

        14       332.

        15                      Senator Nanula, why do you rise?

        16                      SENATOR NANULA:  Mr. President,

        17       I'd like to request unanimous consent to be

        18       recorded in the negative on Calendar Number

        19       1675.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        21       objection, hearing no objection, Senator Nanula

        22       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        23       1675.











                                                             
8907

         1                      Senator Dollinger, why do you

         2       rise?

         3                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Mr.

         4       President, I was out of the chamber at a

         5       committee meeting when the vote was taken on

         6       1675.  I would request unanimous consent to be

         7       recorded in the negative.  That, I believe, is

         8       the legislative pay bill.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

        10       objection, hearing no objection, Senator

        11       Dollinger will be recorded in the negative on

        12       Calendar Number 1675.

        13                      Senator Skelos.

        14                      SENATOR SKELOS:  We're just

        15       waiting for the esteemed chairman of the Finance

        16       Committee.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        18       Skelos.

        19                      SENATOR SKELOS:  If we could

        20       return to reports of standing committees.  I

        21       believe there is a report of the Finance

        22       Committee at the desk.  I ask that it be read.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  We will











                                                             
8908

         1       return to the order of reports of standing

         2       committees.

         3                      There is a report of the Senate

         4       Finance Committee at the desk.  I'll ask the

         5       Secretary to read.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

         7       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

         8       following nomination:

         9                      Member of the New York State

        10       Employment Relations Board, Linda M. Belfer,

        11       Esq., of New York City.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The Chair

        13       recognizes Senator Stafford.

        14                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  Thank you, Mr.

        15       President.

        16                      As has been our Governor's

        17       custom, he sent some very fine nominees to us

        18       today.  Our first nominee is Linda Belfer,

        19       presently an attorney with a very fine

        20       background in education and experience who made

        21       a very fine statement before our committee, and

        22       was unanimously approved by the Finance

        23       Committee to be a member of the New York











                                                             
8909

         1       Employment Relations Board, and it's a pleasure

         2       for me to move her confirmation with any other

         3       Senators who would care to join.

         4                      Thank you.

         5                      SENATOR ABATE:  I would rise in

         6       enthusiastic support -

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         8       Abate, did you wish to speak on the nomination?

         9                      SENATOR ABATE: Yes, Mr.

        10       President.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  It's

        12       customary to be recognized by the Chair before

        13       speaking.

        14                      SENATOR ABATE:  I'm one step

        15       ahead.  I thought you had recognized.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  It's been

        17       a week since we've been here.

        18                      The Chair recognizes Senator

        19       Abate, on the nomination.

        20                      SENATOR ABATE:  Yes.  I too rise

        21       in enthusiastic support of Linda Belfer.  Linda

        22       is a constituent of mine.  I've had the

        23       opportunity through the years to see her good











                                                             
8910

         1       work in the community as well as as a lawyer.

         2       She is smart; she is organized.  She is

         3       enormously aware of employment issues and labor

         4       issues, having worked with employers and

         5       employees, and I must say that she'll probably

         6       be one of the only members of the board who can

         7       speak English, Spanish, French and Hebrew pro

         8       ficiently.  That's just a demonstration of how

         9       smart she is, and I think she'll make an

        10       enormous and productive contribution to the

        11       board, and I ask my colleagues to support her

        12       nomination, and look forward to working with her

        13       for the next few years.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Is there

        15       any other Senator wishing to speak on the

        16       nomination?  If not, the question is on the

        17       nomination of Linda M. Belfer of New York City

        18       to become a member of the New York State

        19       Employment Relations Board.

        20                      All those in favor of the

        21       nomination signify by saying aye.

        22                      (Response of "Aye.")

        23                      Opposed nay.











                                                             
8911

         1                      (There was no response. )

         2                      In a close vote, but unanimous

         3       vote, the nominee is confirmed.

         4                      We're very, very pleased to be

         5       joined by Linda Belfer, who is in the balcony to

         6       my right, to your left.  Congratulations on your

         7       appointment and good luck.

         8                      (Applause)

         9                      The Secretary will continue to

        10       read.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        12       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        13       following nomination:

        14                      Member of the Workers'

        15       Compensation Board, Carol G. McManus of Pitts

        16       ford.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Chair

        18       recognizes Senator Stafford, on the nomination.

        19                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  Thank you, Mr.

        20       President.  Also Mrs. McManus appeared before us

        21       with likewise a very fine statement, excellent,

        22       and I believe Senator Alesi is going to move the

        23       confirmation, please.











                                                             
8912

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Chair

         2       recognizes Senator Alesi.

         3                      SENATOR ALESI:  Thank you, Mr.

         4       President.

         5                      It's my pleasure and privilege to

         6       support the nomination of my constituent and

         7       good friend, Carol McManus, who has a very broad

         8       background in not only the public sector but

         9       private sector as well.  Her experience crosses

        10       between business, legislative and legal.

        11                      She's been active in unemployment

        12       reform, small business, economic development,

        13       industrial and labor relations, civil service

        14       regulations, the wage and salary task forces and

        15       most importantly, Carol is someone who brings

        16       great energy to whatever endeavor she under

        17       takes.  She is dedicated, hard working and

        18       knowledgeable, and I'm sure that she will be a

        19       true asset to the Workers' Comp. Board.

        20                      It's my pleasure and privilege to

        21       support this nomination of Carol McManus.

        22                      Thank you, Mr. President.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Chair











                                                             
8913

         1       recognizes Senator Maziarz on the nomination.

         2                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Thank you, Mr.

         3       President.  I want to join my colleagues in the

         4       Rochester delegation in congratulating the

         5       Governor on a very fine nomination of Carol

         6       McManus as a member of the Workers' Compensation

         7       Board.

         8                      I've known Carol now for almost

         9       two years and I've known her hard work on the

        10       Monroe County Legislature where she's always out

        11       there fighting not only for her district on the

        12       east side of Rochester but really for the good

        13       of and the betterment of all of Monroe County.

        14                      So I gladly rise and second this

        15       nomination of Carol McManus.

        16                      Thank you, Mr. President.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        18       Nozzolio, on the nomination.

        19                      SENATOR NOZZOLIO:  Thank you, Mr.

        20       President, my colleagues.

        21                      This truly is an excellent

        22       appointment by Governor Pataki, and I rise to

        23       join my colleagues from Monroe County to support











                                                             
8914

         1       it wholeheartedly.

         2                      Carol McManus has demonstrated

         3       through here community leadership, through her

         4       activities, through her volunteer work and

         5       professional work, that she is ideally suited to

         6       be a member of the Workers' Comp' Board, that we

         7       have joined in support, unanimously of this fine

         8       appointment.

         9                      I had first met Carol during her

        10       work as a member of the chamber, as a volunteer

        11       member of the chamber on issues that affect

        12       directly working people.  I think that's the

        13       type of people that we want in this very

        14       important position, one who has been involved

        15       with people in a variety of different forums and

        16       manners, but one who brings a balance and a

        17       great deal of breadth to the Workmen's

        18       Compensation Board, a very important board, one

        19       that we will look to as this Legislature looks

        20       to the entire issue of workmen's compensation.

        21                      Mr. President, I applaud the

        22       Governor for making this fine appointment, and I

        23       wholeheartedly support it.











                                                             
8915

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         2       Dollinger, on the nomination.

         3                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Thank you,

         4       Mr. President.

         5                      I think it's an exceptional

         6       candidate when all the members of the Monroe

         7       County Senate delegation stand up and applaud

         8       the Governor's choice and his selection, and so

         9       it is in this case with Carol McManus.

        10                      As I said at the Finance

        11       Committee, I think Carol and I have probably

        12       argued and fought over more things in the past

        13       than both of us can remember, but this is a

        14       woman who has really committed herself to public

        15       service and giving things to the community.

        16                      Started off as a school board

        17       member, she's been a town council member; she's

        18       been a member of the Monroe County Legislature.

        19       She and I have something in common that she

        20       probably doesn't realize, but I also was the

        21       chairman of the Planning and Economic

        22       Development Committee, but it was back in the

        23       distant past when Democrats controlled that











                                                             
8916

         1       august body; but Carol gives her energy, I think

         2       Senator Alesi put it correctly, she gives energy

         3       and dedication to the community.

         4                      She has a background in office

         5       operations and running the operations of a law

         6       firm.  She comes highly recommended by the

         7       members of that firm, and I think this is an

         8       exceptional candidate.  I think she'll do a top

         9       notch job on the Workers' Compensation Board,

        10       and I congratulate the Governor for this

        11       appointment.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Is there

        13       any other Senator wishing to speak on the

        14       nomination.  Hearing none, the question is on

        15       the nomination of Carol G. McManus of Pitts

        16       ford, New York, to become a member of the

        17       Workers' Compensation Board.  All those in favor

        18       signify by saying aye.

        19                      (Response of "Aye.")

        20                      Opposed nay.

        21                      (There was no response.)

        22                      The nominee is confirmed.

        23                      We're very pleased to be joined











                                                             
8917

         1       by Carol McManus, who is in the gallery to your

         2       left.  Congratulations and good luck.

         3                      (Applause)

         4                      Secretary will continue to read.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

         6       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

         7       following nomination:

         8                      George C. Frost, of South Glens

         9       Falls, member of the New York State Employment

        10       Relations Board.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        12       Stafford, on the nomination.

        13                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  Thank you, Mr.

        14       President.

        15                      I certainly have to emphasize at

        16       the beginning of my remarks that George Frost is

        17       a very close friend of the Majority Leader and

        18       he's also a very close professional associate of

        19       our Majority Leader, and I'm sure I can't speak

        20       for Senator Bruno.  He speaks very well for

        21       himself, but if he were here, he would be saying

        22       many, many fine things about George Frost that

        23       we all know very, very well.











                                                             
8918

         1                      As a constituent of mine, I can

         2       say nothing but good.  A very successful

         3       businessman, a professional engineer, a leader

         4       in his community of professional engineers, a

         5       very successful engineering practice with a very

         6       large firm in upstate New York.  In fact, I said

         7       to him every time I went in there, and it's

         8       amazing, I used to get in there about every two

         9       years, I don't know why, but I -- there was a

        10       large group of people, and I said, I sometimes

        11       wondered about that payroll.  He said he did

        12       too.  But he retired, left a great firm.  The

        13       firm is still successful; it will be successful

        14       because he and his partners similarly retired.

        15                      I can only say, Mr. President,

        16       that George Frost being willing to serve will

        17       make this state a better place, and I'm sure

        18       that he will be a credit to the board, and I

        19       know that is true because he's been a credit to

        20       his community, to his family, and indeed to

        21       himself, and I know this will continue in his

        22       work here with the Employee Relations Board and

        23       on behalf of our Majority Leader, I certainly











                                                             
8919

         1       would move the confirmation.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Any other

         3       Senator wishing to speak on the nomination?

         4       Hearing none, the question is on the nomination

         5       of George C. Frost, of South Glens Falls, to

         6       become a member of the New York State Employment

         7       Relations Boards.  All those in favor of the

         8       nomination signify by saying aye.

         9                      (Response of "Aye.")

        10                      Opposed nay.

        11                      (There was no response. )

        12                      The nominee is confirmed.

        13                      We're very pleased that Mr. Frost

        14       has joined us.  He's in the gallery to your

        15       left.  Welcome to the board.

        16                      (Applause)

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Secretary

        18       will continue to read.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        20       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        21       following nomination:

        22                      Trustee of the Power Authority of

        23       the state of New York, Hyman Miller, of











                                                             
8920

         1       Fayetteville.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

         3       is on the nomination of Hyman Miller to become a

         4       member -- a trustee of the Power Authority of

         5       the state of New York.  All those in favor of

         6       the nomination signify by saying aye.

         7                      (Response of "Aye.")

         8                      Opposed nay.

         9                      (There was no response. )

        10                      The nominee is confirmed.

        11       Secretary will continue to read.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        13       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        14       following nomination:

        15                      Member of the New York State

        16       Olympic Regional Development Authority, Edwin

        17       Weibrecht, of Lake Placid.

        18                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  Move the

        19       nomination.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

        21       is on the nomination of Edwin Weibrecht to

        22       become a member of the New York State Olympic

        23       Regional Development Authority.  All those in











                                                             
8921

         1       favor signify by saying aye.

         2                      (Response of "Aye.")

         3                      Opposed nay.

         4                      (There was no response.)

         5                      The nominee is confirmed.

         6       Secretary will continue to read.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

         8       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

         9       following nomination:

        10                      Member of the Central New York

        11       Regional Transportation Authority, James G.

        12       Russell Jr., of Syracuse.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

        14       is on the nomination. All those in favor signify

        15       by saying aye.

        16                      (Response of "Aye.")

        17                      Opposed nay.

        18                      The nominee is confirmed.

        19       Secretary will continue to read.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        21       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        22       following nomination:

        23                      Member of the State Public











                                                             
8922

         1       Transportation Safety Board, William Duffy of

         2       Ronkonkoma.

         3                      SENATOR LEVY:  Move confirmation.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

         5       is on the nomination.  All those in favor

         6       signify by saying aye.

         7                      (Response of "Aye.")

         8                      Opposed nay.

         9                      (There was no response.)

        10                      The nominee is confirmed.

        11       Secretary will continue to read.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        13       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        14       following nomination:

        15                      Member of the Buffalo and Fort

        16       Erie Bridge Authority, Louis J. Billitier of

        17       Hamburg.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        19       Rath, on the nomination.

        20                      SENATOR RATH:  Yes, Mr.

        21       President, my colleagues.  I rise to say a brief

        22       word about a man I've known for a very long

        23       time, Lou Billittier of Hamburg, a town a little











                                                             
8923

         1       south of Buffalo.  Lou is a man of and for our

         2       community.

         3                      Now, many of you live in

         4       communities that have bridges.  Our big bridge

         5       is very special.  It unites Canada and the

         6       United States.  This Peace Bridge Authority is a

         7       major, major player in the life of our community

         8       and Lou Billittier, as a long-time trustee of

         9       Erie Community College, a front runner in

        10       working with the Emergency Medical Services, a

        11       front runner in maintaining the integrity of

        12       Sheehan Memorial Hospital, is a man of our

        13       community and an outstanding choice.

        14                      I'd like to commend the Governor

        15       and urge the support of Lou Billittier.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

        17       is on the nomination of Louis Billittier to

        18       become a member of the Buffalo and Fort Erie

        19       Bridge Authority.  All those in favor of the

        20       nomination signify by saying aye.

        21                      (Response of "Aye.")

        22                      Opposed nay.

        23                      (There was no response.)











                                                             
8924

         1                      The nominee is confirmed.  The

         2       Secretary will continue to read.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

         4       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

         5       following nominations:

         6                      Members of the Republic Airport

         7       Commission, Philip Acinapuro, of North

         8       Massapequa, and Frank Nocerino, of North

         9       Massapequa.

        10                      SENATOR LEVY:  Move the

        11       nominations.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

        13       is on the nominations.  All those in favor

        14       signify by saying aye.

        15                      (Response of "Aye.")

        16                      Opposed nay.

        17                      (There was no response.)

        18                      The nominees are confirmed.

        19       Secretary will continue to read.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        21       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        22       following nomination:

        23                      Member of the Stewart Airport











                                                             
8925

         1       Commission, Louis P. Bozzone, of New Windsor.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

         3       is on the nomination.  All those in favor

         4       signify by saying aye.

         5                      (Response of "Aye.")

         6                      Opposed nay.

         7                      (There was no response.)

         8                      The nominee is confirmed.

         9       Secretary will read.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        11       from the Committee so Finance, reports the

        12       following nomination:

        13                      Member of the New York State

        14       Park, Recreation and Historic Preservation

        15       Commission, Charles A. Angelino of Norwich.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

        17       is on the nomination.  All those in favor saying

        18       by saying aye.

        19                      (Response of "Aye.")

        20                      Opposed nay.

        21                      (There was no response.)

        22                      The nominee is confirmed.

        23       Secretary will read.











                                                             
8926

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

         2       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

         3       following nomination:

         4                      Member of the Saratoga Capital

         5       District State Park Recreation and Historic

         6       Preservation Commission, Michael T. Dennis, of

         7       Gansevoort.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

         9       is on the nomination.  All those in favor

        10       signify by saying aye.

        11                      (Response of "Aye.")

        12                      Opposed nay.

        13                      (There was no response.)

        14                      The nominee is confirmed.

        15       Secretary will read.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        17       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        18       following nominations:

        19                      Members of the Lake George Park

        20       Commission, H. Gordon Burleigh, of Ticonderoga;

        21       E. Wilson Campbell, of Bolton Landing; Thomas L.

        22       Wood, of Whitehall and Bruce Young of Hulett's

        23       Landing.











                                                             
8927

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

         2       of is on the nominations.  All those in favor

         3       signify by saying aye.

         4                      (Response of "Aye.")

         5                      Opposed nay.

         6                      (There was no response.)

         7                      The nominees are confirmed.

         8       Secretary will read.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        10       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        11       following nominations:

        12                      Member of the New York State

        13       Emergency Financial Control Board for the city

        14       of Yonkers, John Jacono, of Yonkers.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

        16       is on the nomination.  All those in favor

        17       signify by saying aye.

        18                      (Response of "Aye.")

        19                      Opposed nay.

        20                      The nominee is confirmed.

        21       Secretary will read.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        23       from the Committee on Finance, reports the











                                                             
8928

         1       following nomination:

         2                      Member of the New York State Job

         3       Development Authority, Nicholas Yunis, of

         4       Elmira.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Question

         6       is on the nomination of Nicholas Yunis to become

         7       a member of the New York Job Development

         8       Authority.  All those in favor signify by saying

         9       aye.

        10                      (Response of "Aye.")

        11                      Opposed nay.

        12                      The nominee is confirmed.

        13       Secretary will read.

        14                      The Secretary will read.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        16       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        17       following nomination:

        18                      Public Member of the State

        19       Banking Board, Michael D. Grosso, of Coxsackie.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        21       question is on the nomination.  All those in

        22       favor signify by saying aye.

        23                      (Response of "Aye".)











                                                             
8929

         1                      Opposed, nay.

         2                      (There was no response.)

         3                      The nominee is confirmed.

         4                      The Secretary will read.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

         6       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

         7       following nomination:

         8                      Member of the Small Business

         9       Advisory Board, William Hockenberger, of

        10       Penfield.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        12       question is on the nomination.  All those in

        13       favor signify by saying aye.

        14                      (Response of "Aye".)

        15                      Opposed, nay.

        16                      (There was no response.)

        17                      The nominee is confirmed.

        18                      The Secretary will read.

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        20       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        21       following nomination:

        22                      Commissioner of the Interstate

        23       Sanitation Commission, Gerard Kassar, of











                                                             
8930

         1       Brooklyn.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         3       question is on the nomination.  All those in

         4       favor signify by saying aye.

         5                      (Response of "Aye".)

         6                      Opposed, nay.

         7                      (There was no response.)

         8                      The nominee is confirmed.

         9                      The Secretary will read.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        11       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        12       following nomination:

        13                      Director of the New York State

        14       Environmental Facilities Development, Frederick

        15       G. Field, of Newtonville.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        17       question is on the nomination.  All those in

        18       favor signify by saying aye.

        19                      (Response of "Aye".)

        20                      Opposed, nay.

        21                      (There was no response.)

        22                      The nominee is confirmed.

        23                      The Secretary will read.











                                                             
8931

         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

         2       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

         3       following nominations:

         4                      Members of the New York State

         5       Hospital Review and Planning Council, Vincent

         6       Bove of Belle Terre; Lin H. Mo, of Bronxville

         7       and Richard Rahill of Corning.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         9       question is on the nominations.  All those in

        10       favor -

        11                      SENATOR LAVALLE:  Mr. President.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        13       LaValle, on the nomination.

        14                      SENATOR LAVALLE:  Mr. President,

        15       I rise to speak on behalf of the nomination of

        16       Vincent Bove, who is currently the mayor of the

        17       village of Belle Terre.  He's a personal friend

        18       and neighbor, a person who serves on our local

        19       hospital board at Mather Memorial Hospital and

        20       also commissioner on the Suffolk County Board of

        21       Health.

        22                      The Governor in selecting Mr.

        23       Bove for this position really has selected











                                                             
8932

         1       someone who has not only business experience but

         2       also experience in the area which he must deal

         3       with, and that is health care.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Any other

         5       Senator wishing to speak on the nominations?

         6                      (There was no response.)

         7                      Hearing none, the question is on

         8       the nominations.  All those in favor signify by

         9       saying aye.

        10                      (Response of "Aye".)

        11                      Opposed, nay.

        12                      (There was no response.)

        13                      The nominees are confirmed.

        14                      The Secretary will continue to

        15       read.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Stafford,

        17       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

        18       following nomination:

        19                      Member of the state Council on

        20       the Arts, Linda E. Mondello, of Levittown.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        22       question is on the nomination.  All those in

        23       favor signify by saying aye.











                                                             
8933

         1                      (Response of "Aye".)

         2                      Opposed, nay.

         3                      (There was no response.)

         4                      The nominee is confirmed.

         5                      Senator Skelos.

         6                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

         7       if we could just stand at ease for a moment.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         9       Senate will stand at ease for a few moments.

        10                      (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        11       ease momentarily.)

        12                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        14       Skelos.

        15                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Is there any

        16       housekeeping?

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  We have a

        18       couple of motions.  We'll return to the order of

        19       motions and resolutions.

        20                      The Chair recognizes Senator

        21       Seward.

        22                      SENATOR SEWARD:  Yes, Mr.

        23       President.  I wish to call up Senator











                                                             
8934

         1       DeFrancisco's bill, Print Number 6053-A,

         2       recalled from the Assembly which is now at the

         3       desk.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         5       Secretary will read.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         7       1551, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print

         8       6053-A, an act to amend the Public Health Law.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        10       Seward.

        11                      SENATOR SEWARD:  Mr. President, I

        12       now move to reconsider the vote by which this

        13       bill was passed.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        15       Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

        16                      (The Secretary called the roll on

        17       reconsideration.)

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 52.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        20       Seward.

        21                      SENATOR SEWARD:  Yes,  Mr.

        22       President.  I now offer the following

        23       amendments.











                                                             
8935

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         2       amendments are received and adopted.

         3                      Senator Seward.

         4                      SENATOR SEWARD:  Yes.  On behalf

         5       of Senator Cook, I wish to call up his bill,

         6       Print Number 7206-A, recalled from the Assembly

         7       which is now at the desk.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         9       Secretary will read.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       1262, by Senator Cook, Senate Print 7206-A, an

        12       act to create the Wallkill Public Library

        13       District.

        14                      SENATOR SEWARD:  Mr. President, I

        15       now move to reconsider the vote by which this

        16       bill was passed.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        18       Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

        19                      (The Secretary called the roll on

        20       reconsideration.)

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 52.

        22                      SENATOR SEWARD:  Mr. President, I

        23       now offer the following amendments.











                                                             
8936

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         2       amendments are received and adopted.

         3                      The Chair recognizes Senator

         4       Bruno.

         5                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Mr. President,

         6       can we at this time take up Calendar Number

         7       1680.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         9       Secretary will read the title.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       1680, by Senator Bruno, Senate Print 7884, an

        12       act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        14       Bruno.

        15                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Mr. President, is

        16       there a message at the desk?

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There is.

        18                      SENATOR BRUNO:  I move that we

        19       accept the message.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        21       motion is to accept the message of necessity on

        22       Calendar Number 1680.  All those in favor

        23       signify by saying aye.











                                                             
8937

         1                      (Response of "Aye".)

         2                      Opposed, nay.

         3                      (There was no response.)

         4                      The message is accepted.

         5                      The Chair recognizes Senator

         6       Bruno.

         7                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Mr. President, by

         8       way of a word or two on this legislation, I

         9       stand really to commend many of the people that

        10       have been involved in helping us get to passage

        11       of this truly landmark legislation, and there

        12       were a lot of people involved.

        13                      The bottom line, the result will

        14       be that good things will happen to people in

        15       this state, women, children, families, many of

        16       whom have suffered throughout the years with

        17       breast cancer, the anguish, the pain, the

        18       suffering that relates.  It's one of the most

        19       serious illnesses that can befall a woman or an

        20       individual in this state.

        21                      What we're doing here today

        22       really moves us forward in a bipartisan way to

        23       find the causes of breast cancer in this state,











                                                             
8938

         1       create a registry for pesticides that are used

         2       in this state, to isolate the information, make

         3       it available in taking a medical, scientific

         4       approach to research and hopefully leading to a

         5       cure, a checkoff system that will allow people

         6       to donate to the research in reaching a cure

         7       towards breast cancer.

         8                      Things like this take the

         9       cooperation of a lot of people, and I want to

        10       just thank the Speaker for his leadership in

        11       that house, our chair of the Conference

        12       Committee, Senator Dean Skelos and the members,

        13       Senator Marcellino, Senator Kuhl and Senator

        14       Tully, Senator Tully who had the original

        15       legislation on this issue and the members in the

        16       Assembly that worked diligently to get us the

        17       passage of this important legislation.

        18                      A special word of thanks to Geri

        19       Barish who worked so hard with the One in Nine

        20       group, that helped recognize how important this

        21       issue was, and it's gone on.  Her persistence,

        22       her dedication, her commitment is something that

        23       deserves the praise of all people involved in











                                                             
8939

         1       any issue that they want to see resolved.

         2                      Also the Farm Bureau who had to

         3       take a step back through John Lincoln, their

         4       president, Rick Zimmerman, their representative,

         5       who worked with us in a cooperative way, worked

         6       with everyone.

         7                      Senator Al D'Amato has been

         8       working on this issue for the last seven or

         9       eight years keeping it in the forefront, helping

        10       pull the sides together and when we separated,

        11       helping us get back together.

        12                      So I really -- staffwise, we have

        13       Tim Collins here who had stayed with this many

        14       nights, many weekends when we talked, and Tim

        15       Collins was ably assisted by Pam Davis and by

        16       Bob Kent, and while many of us were doing a lot

        17       of other things, they were staying with this

        18       issue, working with all the parties, making sure

        19       that the detail was taken care of.

        20                      So I thank everyone that's been

        21       involved in helping us all take a major, a giant

        22       step forward in helping us determine the causes

        23       of breast cancer and other cancers in this state











                                                             
8940

         1       and prayerfully and hopefully working us towards

         2       a cure.

         3                      Thank you, Mr. President.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         5       Skelos.

         6                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

         7       on the bill.  This accord demonstrates that the

         8       reform process established by and recommended by

         9       Senator Bruno last year really does work.

        10                      Open government with public

        11       involvement from groups like One in Nine and so

        12       many of the survivor groups that are there and

        13       advocates, we thank you for your great work, the

        14       Farm Bureau, really has proven that together we

        15       can reach bipartisan accords in the state

        16       Legislature.

        17                      We can now allow scientists to go

        18       about finding a cure for breast cancer, a

        19       disease which has devastated so many families

        20       throughout the state of New York.

        21                      You know, many people spent many

        22       hours to reach this accord, one that will

        23       establish the most comprehensive investigation











                                                             
8941

         1       into breast cancer in the history of the state

         2       of New York.

         3                      This final product will help

         4       scientists seek out the cause and hopefully the

         5       cure for this insidious disease.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         7       Oppenheimer.

         8                      SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:  Well, I -

         9       I am very, very thrilled to see this bill before

        10       us.

        11                      As most of you know, as a breast

        12       cancer survivor, this is the bill that I was

        13       hoping for.  This is the bill that the farmers

        14       have agreed to and I am so, so pleased that they

        15       understand how much this means to not just women

        16       but also to the husbands and the friends of the

        17       women and the men themselves because this -

        18       this is not just a breast cancer issue.  This is

        19       an issue of a variety of illnesses and birth

        20       defects, and I am just -- just very, very

        21       pleased that occasionally we all come together

        22       and we do the right thing and each of us, all of

        23       us are going to benefit from this bill.











                                                             
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         1                      So I thank you, Senator Bruno,

         2       and I thank the work that has been done to bring

         3       the two sides together.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         5       Waldon.

         6                      SENATOR WALDON:  Thank you very

         7       much, Mr. President.

         8                      It is times like this and bills

         9       like this which cause people to say that perhaps

        10       this was one of the finest hours of the New York

        11       State Senate.  So I applaud Senator Bruno and

        12       Speaker Silver and all those persons who had

        13       something to do with bringing this to fruition.

        14                      When I was a young police officer

        15       working in Spanish Harlem, I received a call

        16       from my mother's doctor asking for authorization

        17       to use cobalt, and that was a hell of a day, and

        18       so I applaud this work because this is good

        19       work.  This is a day that the sun shines on the

        20       Senate and all of us can smile, understanding

        21       that what we've done and what this means is

        22       sustaining the life and making people -

        23       allowing people to hold onto those they love for











                                                             
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         1       a little longer.

         2                      Thank you.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         4       Marcellino.

         5                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Thank you,

         6       Mr. President.

         7                      Well, we've certainly come a long

         8       way, as my colleagues have said.  Everyone

         9       involved deserves a great deal of credit:

        10       Senator Bruno, for his leadership, Senator -

        11       Assemblyman Silver, for his leadership in the

        12       other house, my colleagues in the Senate, my

        13       colleagues on the Conference Committee who

        14       worked so hard, the diligent staff that worked

        15       the many hours to put it together, the advocacy

        16       groups, One in Nine, good friends, everyone who

        17       gave of their time, their effort, to come

        18       together, especially also not to forget the

        19       members of the Farm Bureau, especially the

        20       representatives on Long Island who came together

        21       and gave of their time to put together a

        22       compromise, a piece of legislation that will

        23       work and can work and I consider to be the











                                                             
8944

         1       crowning piece of legislation that has come out

         2       of this chamber this session.

         3                      I will proudly vote aye on this

         4       bill.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         6       Rath.

         7                      SENATOR RATH:  Thank you, Mr.

         8       President.

         9                      I rise to congratulate the

        10       leadership in the Senate and in the Assembly and

        11       to congratulate Senator Marcellino on a good job

        12       well done and Senator Tully for early

        13       leadership.

        14                      Last year when I went home from

        15       session, there were three items that were on my

        16       agenda.  I won't tell you what the other two

        17       are, but they haven't been completed this year.

        18       This was one of the items that I said has to be

        19       done next year.  Hopefully a year from now I can

        20       stand before you and tell you what the other two

        21       are and they will have been completed, but I

        22       don't think quite so soon.

        23                      To have imagined that this one











                                                             
8945

         1       would have come this well, this quickly is

         2       almost beyond belief.  It means that a lot of

         3       people had a lot of commitment to move it.

         4                      When the bill was drawn up, the

         5       question was asked, Is there a message of

         6       necessity at the desk?  I think the message is

         7       clear to everyone in New York State.  This bill

         8       was a necessity.  This bill is a necessity.

         9                      To Geri Barish and the advocates,

        10       congratulations.  You have set a very high

        11       standard for advocates as they move forward to

        12       realize how important their work is.  It was

        13       tough.  There were dark days.  You didn't give

        14       up.  You got the bill, and that can be a message

        15       to people who are caught up in many areas of

        16       advocacy with this and other legislatures.

        17                      And so congratulations goes all

        18       around but congratulations to the people of the

        19       state of New York, the men, women and children

        20       who will live longer, happier lives and the old

        21       saying really, really holds true on this one,

        22       Here, an ounce of prevention is going to be

        23       worth many, many pounds of cure.











                                                             
8946

         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         2       Tully.

         3                      SENATOR TULLY:  Thank you, Mr.

         4       President.

         5                      In the interest of brevity, I

         6       would ask that the record reflect and

         7       incorporate into my remarks the names of all of

         8       those persons mentioned by Senator Bruno for

         9       congratulations and for thanks for what they've

        10       done to generate this particular piece of

        11       legislation.

        12                      Without a doubt, it could not

        13       have been before us today if it were not for the

        14       singular efforts of our leader, Senator Bruno,

        15       whose zeal and tireless efforts led to this

        16       conclusion, and I know that all of those who are

        17       survivors of this dreaded disease and all of our

        18       wives and sisters and daughters in this state

        19       will be forever grateful for this progressive

        20       step in legislation that's most meaningful.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        22       Leichter.

        23                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Mr. President,











                                                             
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         1       there are really two achievements that are

         2       represented by this bill.  One of them is that I

         3       think in a very productive, a very effective and

         4       a realistic way we have dealt with what I think

         5       all of us wanted to do, which is to advance the

         6       fight against breast cancer and other ailments

         7       and to set up an effective database that would

         8       enable important medical and scientific research

         9       to proceed, but the second thing we've done is

        10       that we've shown that even in the highly charged

        11       political atmosphere of Albany, that problems

        12       that seem intractable because of the partisan

        13       nature can be resolved when people of good will

        14       get together and when we put some of the

        15       politics aside.

        16                      I had the honor of being

        17       appointed by Senator Connor to the Conference

        18       Committee, and I must say I found it a very

        19       beneficial experience, and I want to thank all

        20       of the members who served with me.

        21                      I particularly want to pay

        22       tribute at this time to Senator Tully and

        23       Assemblymember Englebright, not to say that











                                                             
8948

         1       there aren't others who have been part of this

         2       fight, but for many years they really made it

         3       their point to see that the Legislature

         4       addressed this problem, and I think that really

         5       ought to be recognized, but I just want to share

         6       with you just some observations on the

         7       Conference Committee.

         8                      I can't say in all honesty that

         9       this Conference Committee worked the way one

        10       envisions Conference Committees to work where a

        11       real exchange of viewpoints and efforts and

        12       solution among the members itself -- not to mean

        13       that the members didn't work or that there

        14       wasn't some effort at this -- at this

        15       interchange.  A lot of the work really was done

        16       by the staff and somebody can say, Well, I mean,

        17       is this any different than what you guys did

        18       before, you know?  The Majority leader's staff

        19       and the Speaker's staff, they'd get together and

        20       sometimes work out things, but I think that the

        21       Conference Committee was really the forum and in

        22       some ways the -- the initiative or the stimulus

        23       to an agreement being reached, and I think that











                                                             
8949

         1       the agreement that was reached, as I said before

         2       -- and I think it deserves to be repeated -- it

         3       shows that people of good will can come out with

         4       good, sound resolutions to problems that we all

         5       recognize exist, and that I think the public

         6       looks to us to show the maturity, to show the

         7       leadership and the wisdom to try to resolve, and

         8       I think we certainly did that in this particular

         9       instance.

        10                      I'm very pleased that we have

        11       this bill before us and maybe it harbors other

        12       good things and other resolutions that may come

        13       this session on other so-called intractable

        14       problems.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        16       Mendez, on the bill.

        17                      SENATOR MENDEZ:  Mr. President,

        18       indeed, today is a great day for all cancer

        19       survivors in the state of New York and for the

        20       future of many, many women who will undoubtedly

        21       -- will be suffering from this disease that at

        22       this point in time, the issue containing this

        23       bill to what an extent, pesticides, are











                                                             
8950

         1       responsible for higher incidence of breast

         2       cancer in certain areas of the state that will

         3       be answered.

         4                      I really, with great gratitude in

         5       my heart, congratulate the leadership of Senator

         6       Bruno, Senator Tully that has been involved in

         7       this area for awhile, and all these group of

         8       individuals here, both in the Senate and in the

         9       -- in the Assembly that made this very

        10       comprehensive bill a reality, and one thing

        11       about the bill that is very dear to my heart is

        12       that the women and the people of the state of

        13       New York will be able to benefit from the best

        14       scientific minds after -- in researching this

        15       issue and that a very truly ample database will

        16       be furnished.

        17                      I'm also glad, Mr. President,

        18       that the farmers do not have any liabilities as

        19       it relates to their groundwater.

        20                      So it's a very comprehensive

        21       bill.  All the different interested parties were

        22       able to come to an agreement for the benefit of

        23       the women and the people of the state of New











                                                             
8951

         1       York, and we are all very thankful for that.

         2                      Thank you.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         4       Dollinger.

         5                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Thank you,

         6       Mr. President.

         7                      I'll be brief.  I know there are

         8       lots of congratulations that should be passed

         9       around.  I'll just single out my colleague,

        10       Senator Tully, for a long-term perseverance on

        11       this particular issue.

        12                      I speak today as a representative

        13       of one of the five counties that has the highest

        14       rates of breast cancer, but I would just like to

        15       share with you a personal observation.  The

        16       father of a 14-year-old girl that just graduated

        17       from grammar school could never imagine that she

        18       would ever have breast cancer but as her father,

        19       I worried that some day it might happen.

        20                      What I take from all of this and

        21       the accomplishments of many who deserve thanks

        22       is that, because of what we do today, it will be

        23       a little less likely ever to happen, and to all











                                                             
8952

         1       of you from her father, I thank you.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         3       Alesi.

         4                      SENATOR ALESI:  Thank you, Mr.

         5       President.

         6                      As one who also represents Monroe

         7       County which has a very high instance of this

         8       terrible disease, I rise in complete support of

         9       this measure.

        10                      It's particularly important to me

        11       in the last couple of months since in that short

        12       period of time, an immediate member of my family

        13       has been stricken by this terrible disease and

        14       someone else who's very close to me, and as a

        15       man, perhaps I cannot understand the full impact

        16       of breast cancer, but as someone who is so close

        17       to two people who are stricken with breast

        18       cancer, I can do no more but join with my

        19       colleagues here in the hopes that this

        20       legislation, which is the product of tremendous

        21       insight and cooperation by our Leader here, the

        22       leader in the other house, by our colleagues,

        23       that this legislation will some time some day











                                                             
8953

         1       provide us with the information that certainly

         2       will not bring about a cure for the two people

         3       that are so close to me but perhaps some day,

         4       provide us with some kind of preventative method

         5       that will give hope to those people who might

         6       otherwise be stricken.

         7                      On that basis in offering those

         8       comments, I thank everyone involved in putting

         9       this compromise piece of legislation together,

        10       and I fully support the legislation.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        12       Hoffmann.

        13                      SENATOR HOFFMANN:  Thank you, Mr.

        14       President.

        15                      I'm pleased also to add my

        16       support and congratulations to those who were

        17       involved in the negotiation of this very arduous

        18       piece of legislation.  There have been fewer

        19       issues that have raised more emotional concern

        20       around this Capitol over the last two years than

        21       the pesticide notification bill.

        22                      But my perspective may be

        23       somewhat different from a few of my colleagues











                                                             
8954

         1       in this chamber today because I cannot help but

         2       feel a twinge of sadness that it took us this

         3       long and it took the unique Conference Committee

         4       operation which has only recently been in place

         5       in this Legislature to devise what is an

         6       eminently common sense solution to a problem

         7       that brought several very divergent groups

         8       together with a mutual concern.

         9                      I am the ranking Minority member

        10       on the Senate Agricultural Committee.  I'm also

        11       one of only two working farmers in the New York

        12       State Senate.  So perhaps I'm a little bit more

        13       sensitive to the issue that is raised by farmers

        14       on this concern.

        15                      I'm also, quite obviously, a

        16       woman who is at risk as is every other woman in

        17       this state to a disease that we all hope we can

        18       get a handle on, whether it's through

        19       documenting pesticide use or through other

        20       medical research or a combination of all of the

        21       above, and I'm in a unique high risk category.

        22       I've lost a mother and a sister and a

        23       mother-in-law to breast cancer.











                                                             
8955

         1                      So I feel very, very strongly

         2       about the need for us to do anything in our

         3       power to track any conceivable substance that

         4       could be a contributing factor to breast cancer

         5       or any other form of cancer.

         6                      However, throughout the debate on

         7       this issue around this Capitol, I have been

         8       saddened to see the lack of understanding by so

         9       many people in the Legislature and so many of

        10       the environmental and -- environmental groups

        11       and the breast cancer organizations themselves

        12       about the actual imposition of record keeping

        13       problems, record keeping responsibilities on

        14       farmers and how this was an onerous burden

        15       wholly out of place for that industry and one

        16       which would have very limited benefit to the

        17       general public because clearly there are better

        18       ways that the information could be tracked than

        19       by forcing farmers into yet another onerous

        20       burden that is not inflicted on any other

        21       industry and very, very important to remember, a

        22       burden inflicted only on farmers in New York

        23       State, and I must remind my colleagues again











                                                             
8956

         1       that agriculture is our number one industry in

         2       this state, and when we are addressing an issue

         3       that will create a business burden on our number

         4       one industry of this state, we must be sensitive

         5       to the issues raised by that industry.

         6                      Farmers never opposed a pesticide

         7       notification concept.  They merely opposed being

         8       selectively targeted for record keeping not

         9       demanded of any other industry in New York State

        10       and not demanded of farmers on a national level,

        11       and what is wrong with that position?

        12                      Today we have before us a

        13       proposal that recognizes the concerns of

        14       farmers.

        15                      Let me read briefly, because it

        16       is very brief, the statement by Farm Bureau, and

        17       I thank the representatives of the Farm Bureau,

        18       Mr. Zimmerman and Mr. Hooker, who are with us

        19       today for condensing into the shortest possible

        20       language, a very valid sentiment that we should

        21       remember, not only today but in the future, and

        22       it says:  "Farm Bureau trusts that this

        23       legislation will provide the public with the











                                                             
8957

         1       same confidence we have, that the judicious use

         2       of agricultural crop protectants are not a

         3       threat to human health.  We believe that this

         4       legislation addresses the practical concerns

         5       raised by the agricultural industry."

         6                      The practical concerns raised by

         7       the agricultural industry should be a matter of

         8       paramount concern to this Senate, to the

         9       Assembly and to the administration of the state

        10       of New York.  I hope that in the future when an

        11       issue which divides environmentalists and

        12       agriculturalists occurs, that we will have a

        13       more sympathetic approach where the issues of

        14       farmers are raised, not the arrogance, not the

        15       dismissive attitude that has been all too

        16       prevalent in discussing the issue of pesticide

        17       notification.

        18                      So let us take this as an

        19       important lesson and make sure that in the

        20       future we do not come to loggerheads, we do not

        21       experience the name calling and the distortions

        22       that we experienced on pesticide notification

        23       and we do not take years to come up with a











                                                             
8958

         1       common sense solution which should have been

         2       available to us virtually months or years ago.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

         4       Johnson.

         5                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Mr. President,

         6       this issue has been growing.  The breast cancer

         7       issue has been growing in magnitude year by

         8       year.

         9                      In my district, I've worked very

        10       closely with some people who formed their own

        11       coalitions in West Islip and in town of Babylon

        12       in the county of Suffolk.  I'd like to mention

        13       some of their names because they helped to put a

        14       lot of pressure behind this bill:  Lorraine

        15       Pace, Virginia Regnante, Joan Hudson, Suffolk

        16       County Division of Women's Service and Diane

        17       Nannery, the young lady whose picture was in the

        18       paper recently that got a breast cancer stamp

        19       issued by the post office, been very active in

        20       my area.

        21                      I took a personal interest in

        22       several aspects of this myself which I'm pleased

        23       to see are incorporated here.  The tax checkoff











                                                             
8959

         1       for donation which would help to provide funding

         2       for the programs we want to do and, of course,

         3       which I believe is Senator Bruno's biggest

         4       contribution, the Health Science -- Research

         5       Science Board which essentially says, Let's get

         6       the information together but let's use that

         7       information for some purpose.

         8                      And, of course, I can't say

         9       enough about Senator Tully who brought the

        10       concept first to the floor in the form of

        11       legislation, Senator Skelos, all the other

        12       legislators mentioned on this bill whose names

        13       are on here and even those whose names are not

        14       here and the other party certainly deserves a

        15       lot of credit for working together cooperatively

        16       to bring about this which I feel is a great

        17       advance in breast cancer research that will

        18       inure to the benefit of our families and our

        19       friends hopefully in the future, and I'm very

        20       proud to say that Senator Bruno put extra effort

        21       into this knowing how important it was, and I

        22       think it was his -- his pushing and his cajoling

        23       and his encouraging that got all the parties to











                                                             
8960

         1       really work together cooperatively,.  It's a

         2       wonderful bill and I encourage everyone, of

         3       course, to support it.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Is there

         5       any other Senator wishing to speak on the bill?

         6                      (There was no response.)

         7                      Hearing none, the Secretary will

         8       read the last section.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 8.  This

        10       act shall take effect in 90 days.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Call the

        12       roll.

        13                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The bill

        16       is passed.

        17                      SENATOR LIBOUS:  Mr. President.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        19       Libous, why do you rise?

        20                      SENATOR LIBOUS:  Some

        21       housekeeping.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  We'll

        23       return to the order of motions and resolutions.











                                                             
8961

         1                      The Chair recognizes Senator

         2       Libous.

         3                      SENATOR LIBOUS:  Thank you, Mr.

         4       President.

         5                      On behalf of Senator Kuhl, I wish

         6       to call up his bill, Print Number 7294, recalled

         7       from the Assembly which is now at the desk.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         9       Secretary will read.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       1662, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 7294, an act

        12       to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator

        14       Libous.

        15                      SENATOR LIBOUS:  Mr. President, I

        16       now move to reconsider the vote by which this

        17       bill was passed.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

        19       Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

        20                      (The Secretary called the roll on

        21       reconsideration.)

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Senator











                                                             
8962

         1       Libous.

         2                      SENATOR LIBOUS:  Mr. President, I

         3       offer up the following amendments.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  The

         5       amendments are received and adopted.

         6                      Senator Mendez, why do you rise?

         7                      SENATOR MENDEZ:  Mr. President, I

         8       want to announce that there will be a Minority

         9       Conference in Room 314.  It's a closed

        10       conference, a closed Minority Conference, Room

        11       314, right after session.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:

        13       Immediately following session, there will be a

        14       Minority Conference in Room 314, a closed

        15       Minority Conference in Room 314, immediately

        16       following session.

        17                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Mr. President, is

        18       there any other housekeeping at the desk?

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  There is

        20       none, sir.

        21                      SENATOR BRUNO:  Then, Mr.

        22       President, there being no further business to

        23       come before the Senate, I would move that we











                                                             
8963

         1       stand adjourned until this coming Sunday at 7:00

         2       p.m., intervening days to be legislative days,

         3       and the 7:00 p.m. call being subject to the call

         4       of the Majority Leader if there is business to

         5       be done by the Senate before Sunday at 7:00 p.m.

         6                      Thank you, Mr. President.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:  Without

         8       objection, the Senate will stand adjourned until

         9       this following Sunday at 7:00 p.m.  However,

        10       you'll be subject to the call of the Majority

        11       Leader between now and then, all intervening

        12       days to be legislative days.

        13                      (Whereupon, at 2:37 p.m., the

        14       Senate adjourned.)

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