Regular Session - March 30, 1998

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         9                   ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                    March 30, 1998

        11                       3:19 p.m.

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        14                  REGULAR SESSION

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        18       SENATOR RAYMOND A. MEIER, Acting President

        19       STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

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         1                      P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         3       Senate will come to order.  I'd ask everyone

         4       present to please rise and repeat with me the

         5       Pledge of Allegiance.

         6                      (The assemblage repeated the

         7       Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

         8                      The invocation will be given by

         9       Father Bernard Granger, who is the Chaplain of

        10       the Firemen's Association of the state of New

        11       York.

        12                      Chaplain?

        13                      FATHER BERNARD GRANGER:  Will

        14       you join with me in prayer.

        15                      O Lord our God, our celestial

        16       governor and our universal fire chief, You

        17       have redeemed us, set upon us the

        18       responsibility of using all of Your gifts and

        19       blessings for good, all the ways we can.  Let

        20       us always remember that it is only in and

        21       through You that we can live and move and have

        22       our being, that our ultimate goal is to

        23       glorify and praise You and serve You.  To this

        24       end, we ask that You protect us, provide

        25       everything self-serving.  We ask that You will







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         1       inspire and guide us citizens of this state

         2       and legislators of this state.  We ask that

         3       Your will may inspire every word and thing.

         4       Guide and direct us in integrity and truth,

         5       guide and lead these legislators as they

         6       provide for the common good, as they seek to

         7       love and serve You in all that they say or do

         8       or think, this day and all the days of their

         9       lives.  All this we ask in Your Holy Name.

        10       Amen.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        12       Reading of the Journal.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  In Senate,

        14       Sunday, March 29th.  The Senate met pursuant

        15       to adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday,

        16       March 27th, was read and approved.  On motion

        17       Senate adjourned.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        19       Without objection, the Journal stands approved

        20       as read.

        21                      Presentation of petitions.

        22                      Messages from the Assembly.

        23                      Messages from the Governor.

        24                      Reports of standing

        25       committees.







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         1                      Secretary will read.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Trunzo,

         3       from the Committee on Civil Service and

         4       Pensions, reports the following bills:

         5                      Senate Print 3960, by Senator

         6       Trunzo, an act to amend the Retirement and

         7       Social Security Law;

         8                      4725-A, by Senator Trunzo, an

         9       act to amend the Retirement and Social

        10       Security Law;

        11                      6206, by Senator Kuhl, an act

        12       to authorize the village of Horseheads, county

        13       of Chemung; and

        14                      6412, with amendments, by

        15       Senator Spano, an act to amend the Retirement

        16       and Social Security Law.

        17                      Senator Velella, from the

        18       Committee on Insurance, reports:

        19                      Senate Print 4092, by Senator

        20       Velella, an act to amend the Insurance Law;

        21                      6172, by Senator Larkin, an act

        22       to amend the Insurance Law;

        23                      6255, by Senator Velella, an

        24       act to amend the Insurance Law;

        25                      6334, by Senator Velella, an







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         1       act to amend the Insurance Law; and

         2                      6343, by Senator Velella, an

         3       act to amend the Insurance Law.

         4                      All bills ordered direct for

         5       third reading.

         6                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         8       Without objection -

         9                      SENATOR GOLD:  No, Mr.

        10       President.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        12       Senator Gold.

        13                      SENATOR GOLD:  Yeah, I think,

        14       Mr. Chairman -- Mr. President, I'm looking at

        15       today's calendar, has some 125 bills I guess

        16       on third reading already.  I'm also looking at

        17       the inside cover, where there is a note by

        18       Senator Bruno explaining the legislative

        19       procedure, for the gallery I guess, about

        20       bills coming from committee and going to First

        21       Report, and Second Report and then Third

        22       Reading.

        23                      It's my understanding, Mr.

        24       President, that not once this year have we had

        25       a committee report a bill to First Report or







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         1       Second Report, and I was wondering, Mr.

         2       President, why are we reporting these directly

         3       to Third.  I mean we have a calendar full of

         4       Third Reading.  We have a Majority Leader who

         5       is very, very keen on procedure telling the

         6       world that we have a First Report and a Second

         7       Report, and I don't understand why there is a

         8       necessity for these bills to be reported

         9       directly to Third.  Could I understand?

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        11       Senator Skelos.

        12                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        13       if I could just point out, these bills were

        14       reported out of committee with consent of the

        15       committee members.

        16                      SENATOR GOLD:  As I was saying,

        17       Mr. President, if somebody could explain to me

        18       why there's a necessity for the bills to go

        19       direct to Third, since we have a procedure

        20       which was voted upon by the Majority which

        21       says the bills go to First Report and Second

        22       Report.  I just thought I would like to under

        23       stand the process and why we have changed it.

        24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Are

        25       you stating an objection, Senator Gold?







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         1                      SENATOR GOLD:  Well, I haven't

         2       made my mind up.  I'd like to know if somebody

         3       would yield to that question explaining to me

         4       why we should not object and why the bills

         5       should go to Third instead of to First or

         6       Second.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         8       Senator Skelos.

         9                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        10       if I could help Senator Gold, I mentioned

        11       before certainly he has the right to object.

        12       Certainly any committee member that reviewed

        13       these bills, all of whom I understand

        14       consented that they go to Third Reading at

        15       this time, could have objected.

        16                      If Senator Gold objects to

        17       these bills being reported to Third Reading,

        18       he can object.  But the -- what Senator Bruno

        19       and the Majority has been trying to do here,

        20       with the cooperation of the Minority which has

        21       been well received up to this point, is

        22       continue to move the process along so that we

        23       can do the work of the people.

        24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        25       Senator Gold.







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         1                      SENATOR GOLD:  Yeah.  Mr.

         2       President, I appreciate the comments of

         3       Senator Skelos.  I personally don't think you

         4       move the process along by reporting day after

         5       day bills that are old hat and nothing new, so

         6       that, I don't think, accomplishes anything.

         7                      I also would point out to

         8       Senator Skelos that we could move the process

         9       along by handling the hundred or so bills

        10       which are already on Third Reading.  They

        11       don't need any more to it.  I appreciate his

        12       comments that no one in the committee has

        13       objected but, as everybody knows our committee

        14       system, these bills are put out and there's

        15       not too much choice, but I've raised the issue

        16       and I will discuss it with the leadership on

        17       my side.  I don't believe in taking over the

        18       priorities of a very distinguished Minority

        19       Leader that we have here, so I will not object

        20       at this point but we will consider it in the

        21       future.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        23       Without objection, all bills to the Third

        24       Reading Calendar.

        25                      Reports of select committees.







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         1                      Communications and reports from

         2       state officers.

         3                      Motions and resolutions.

         4       Senator Marcellino.

         5                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Thank you,

         6       Mr. President.

         7                      Mr. President, on behalf of

         8       Senator Alesi, I move the following bills be

         9       discharged from their respective -- from its

        10       respective committee and be recommitted with

        11       instructions to strike the enacting clause:

        12       Specifically referring to Bill Number 6497.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  So

        14       ordered.

        15                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Also, Mr.

        16       President, on behalf of Senator Holland -

        17       thank you, by the way, for the prior order.

        18                      On behalf of Senator Holland,

        19       on page number 22, I offer the following

        20       amendments to Calendar Number 473, Senate

        21       Print Number 2548, and ask that said bill

        22       retain its place on the Third Reading

        23       Calendar.

        24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        25       Amendments received, and so ordered.







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         1                      SENATOR MARCELLINO:  Thank you,

         2       sir.

         3                      Senator Maziarz.

         4                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Thank you,

         5       Mr. President.

         6                      I wish to call up my bill,

         7       Print Number 6584-A, recalled from the

         8       Assembly, which is now at the desk.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        10       Secretary will read.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        12       483, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 6584-A,

        13       an act to amend the Social Services Law.

        14                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Mr.

        15       President, I now move to reconsider the vote

        16       by which this bill was passed.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        18       the roll on reconsideration.

        19                      (The Secretary called the roll

        20       on reconsideration. )

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 50.

        22                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Mr.

        23       President, I now offer the following

        24       amendments.

        25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:







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         1       Amendments received.

         2                      Senator Skelos.

         3                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

         4       on behalf of Senator Bruno, I'd like to hand

         5       up the following committee changes for

         6       filing.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         8       Committee changes will be received at the desk

         9       and filed.

        10                      Senator Skelos.

        11                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        12       I believe there's a privileged Resolution

        13       Number 3004, by Senator Wright, concerning

        14       Small Business Day.  I ask that it be read up

        15        -- read in its entirety and offer up

        16       co-sponsorship as recommended by Senator

        17       Wright.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        19       Secretary will read.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator

        21       Wright, Legislative Resolution 3004,

        22       memorializing Governor George E. Pataki to

        23       recognize Monday, March 30th, 1998, as Small

        24       Business Day in the state of New York.

        25                      WHEREAS, small businesses are







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         1       vital to our nation's economy and our way of

         2       life, constituting the single most important

         3       segment of our free enterprise system; and

         4                      WHEREAS, small businesses

         5       generate virtually all new jobs arising in New

         6       York State.

         7                      The contributions made by small

         8       business owners are too often taken for

         9       granted even though they often risk their

        10       financial security to create jobs, pay taxes

        11       and produce goods and services for the people

        12       of New York State.

        13                      Small businesses are the source

        14       of many innovations in products and

        15       merchandising and have made significant

        16       contributions to our state and our society.

        17                      Small businesses in New York

        18       State exert a strong positive influence on the

        19       political, economic and social development of

        20       the state, and the future welfare of the state

        21       depends on the continued development of small

        22       business; and

        23                      WHEREAS, the members of the New

        24       York State Assembly and Senate wish to

        25       proclaim their recognition of small business







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         1       as a crucial element in the economy of New

         2       York State.

         3                      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED

         4       that this legislative body pause in its delib

         5       erations to congratulate all small business

         6       owners and operators in New York State on

         7       their achievements, and to memorialize

         8       Governor George E. Pataki to proclaim Monday,

         9       March 30, 1998, as "Small Business Day" in the

        10       state of New York, and

        11                      BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a

        12       copy of this resolution, suitably engrossed,

        13       be transmitted to Governor George E. Pataki.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        15       Senator Wright.

        16                      SENATOR WRIGHT:  Thank you, Mr.

        17       President.

        18                      If I may, very briefly, on the

        19       resolution.  Today all of us have

        20       representatives from throughout the state here

        21       visiting the Capitol on behalf of chambers of

        22       commerce, the National Federation of

        23       Independent Business Individuals, and The

        24       Business Council talking about the issues that

        25       concern their businesses and the economy of







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         1       this state, and I'm very pleased to see that

         2       our house and the other house will be stopping

         3       in their deliberations to recognize that

         4       commitment of small business.

         5                      We have individuals who are

         6       here in the gallery and will be joining us

         7       throughout the day.  I would encourage my

         8       opening the resolution to sponsorship from all

         9       members.

        10                      Thank you.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        12       Question is on the resolution.  All in favor

        13       signify by saying aye.

        14                      (Response of "Aye.")

        15                      Opposed nay.

        16                      (There was no response. )

        17                      The resolution is adopted.

        18                      Senator Skelos.

        19                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Yes.  On that

        20       resolution, if anybody wishes not to sponsor

        21       it, they should notify the desk.

        22                      I believe there's a privileged

        23       Resolution 3005, by Senator Breslin.  I ask

        24       that the title be read and move for its

        25       adoption.







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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         2       Secretary will read.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator

         4       Breslin, Legislative Resolution 3005,

         5       commending Elias "Babe" Amash on his 18 years

         6       of ceaseless dedicated service as Business

         7       Agent of the Amalgamated Transit Union, Local

         8       1321, to be celebrated April 4, 1998.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        10       Question is on the resolution.  All in favor

        11       signify by saying aye.

        12                      (Response of "Aye.")

        13                      Opposed nay.

        14                      (There was no response. )

        15                      The resolution is adopted.

        16                      Senator Skelos.

        17                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        18       if we could take up the non-controversial

        19       calendar.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        21       Secretary will read.

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        23       168, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 4974-A,

        24       an act to enact the "Health Care Embassy Match

        25       Act" of 1998.







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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

         2       the last section.

         3                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.

         4       This act shall take effect immediately.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

         6       the roll.

         7                      (The Secretary called the

         8       roll. )

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        11       bill is passed.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        13       317, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 310-A, an

        14       act to amend the Executive Law, in relation to

        15       the search of criminal history records.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        17       the last section.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        19       This act shall take effect on the first day of

        20       November.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        22       the -

        23                      SENATOR GOLD:  Lay it aside,

        24       please.

        25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Lay







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         1       the bill aside.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         3       373, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 6328-A, an

         4       act to amend the Labor Law and the Civil

         5       Service Law, in relation to prohibiting state

         6       funding to discourage union organization.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

         8       the last section.

         9                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.

        10       This act shall take effect immediately.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        12       the roll.

        13                      (The Secretary called the

        14       roll. )

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        17       bill is passed.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       375, by Senator Present, Senate Print 528-A,

        20       an act to amend the General Municipal Law, in

        21       relation to municipal contingency.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        23       the last section.

        24                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        25       This act shall take effect immediately.







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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

         2       the roll.

         3                      (The Secretary called the

         4       roll. )

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         7       bill is passed.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       384, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 6203, an

        10       act to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in

        11       relation to rehabilitation of certain multiple

        12       dwellings.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        14       the last section.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.

        16       This act shall take effect immediately.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        18       the roll.

        19                      (The Secretary called the

        20       roll. )

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        23       bill is passed.

        24                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        25       385, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 6207-B,







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         1       an act in relation to authorizing the town of

         2       Hamburg, county of Erie, to convey certain

         3       park lands.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

         5       the last section.

         6                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 5.

         7       This act shall take effect immediately.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There

         9       is a home rule message at the desk.  Call the

        10       roll.

        11                      (The Secretary called the

        12       roll. )

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        15       bill is passed.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       412, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print 2584-B,

        18       an act to amend the Family Court Act and the

        19       Vehicle and Traffic Law, in relation to

        20       suspension of eligibility for a license.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        22       the last section.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Section -

        24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Lay

        25       the bill aside.







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         1                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         2       429, by Senator Cook, Senate Print 2827-B, an

         3       act to create a program for the humanities

         4       within the Office of Cultural Education of the

         5       state Education Department.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

         7       the last section.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 5.

         9       This act shall take effect on the first day of

        10       April.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        12       the roll.

        13                      (The Secretary called the

        14       roll. )

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        17       bill is passed.

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        19       485, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 5809-B, an

        20       act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to the

        21       definition of the term "affiliated person".

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        23       the last section.

        24                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 4.

        25       This act shall take effect immediately.







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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

         2       the roll.

         3                      (The Secretary called the

         4       roll. )

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         7       bill is passed.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       487, by Senator Wright, Senate Print 6479, an

        10       act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to

        11       disclosure of overpayment of taxes to

        12       taxpayers.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        14       the last section.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        16       This act shall take effect immediately.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        18       the roll.

        19                      (The Secretary called the

        20       roll. )

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        23       bill is passed.

        24                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        25       488, by Senator Wright, Senate Print 6481, an







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         1       act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to

         2       applications for refunds of sales tax.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

         4       the last section.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

         6       This act shall take effect immediately.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

         8       the roll.

         9                      (The Secretary called the

        10       roll. )

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        13       bill is passed.

        14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        15       489, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 6504,

        16       an act to amend Chapter 55 of the Laws of

        17       1992, amending the Tax Law and other laws

        18       related to taxes.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        20       the last section.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        22       This act shall take effect immediately.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        24       the roll.

        25                      (The Secretary called the







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         1       roll. )

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 54.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         4       bill is passed.

         5                      Senator Skelos, that completes

         6       the reading of the non-controversial

         7       calendar.

         8                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Yes.  We have

         9       another resolution, if we could return to

        10       motions and resolutions, by Senator Alesi.  I

        11       ask that the title be read and move for its

        12       immediate adoption.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        14       Secretary will read.

        15                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator

        16       Alesi, Legislative Resolution 3007, honoring

        17       Jeremy Lindauer, in recognition of his heroic

        18       action in saving the lives of six people from

        19       a burning building in Rochester.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        21       Question is on the resolution.  All those in

        22       favor signify by saying aye.

        23                      (Response of "Aye.")

        24                      Opposed nay.

        25                      (There was no response.)







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         1                      The resolution is passed.

         2                      Senator Skelos.

         3                      SENATOR SKELOS:  If we could go

         4       to the controversial calendar.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         6       Secretary will read the controversial

         7       calendar.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       317, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print Number

        10       310-A, an act to amend the Executive Law, in

        11       relation to the search of criminal history

        12       records.

        13                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        15       Senator Gold.

        16                      SENATOR GOLD:  Would the

        17       sponsor yield to just one question?

        18                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Yes.  I think

        19       it would be appropriate to lay it aside for

        20       the day, so it could be reviewed.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Lay

        22       the bill aside for the day.

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        24       412, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print 2584-B,

        25       an act to amend the Family Court Act and the







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         1       Vehicle and Traffic Law, in relation to

         2       suspension of eligibility for a license.

         3                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President.

         4       Oh.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         6       Senator Johnson, an explanation has been

         7       requested of Calendar Number 412 by Senator

         8       Montgomery.

         9                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Mr.

        10       President, this bill adds a person 14 years of

        11       age but less than 16 who commits a violation

        12       of unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle to

        13       the definition of a juvenile delinquent to

        14       allow such person to go through the Family

        15       Court process ending in a dispositional

        16       hearing where the order shall be sent to DMV.

        17                      What this does is provides a

        18       penalty, and the penalty would be no license

        19       for -- no license shall be issued prior to the

        20       age of 18 or possibly age 21 for someone who

        21       committed this violation.  This is a negative,

        22       a youngster would like to drive legally at

        23       some point, but they know if they drive

        24       illegally between 14 and 16 that they will not

        25       get a license for three years.







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         1                      It's supported by the AAA and

         2       other right thinking people.

         3                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         5       Senator Montgomery requested the explanation.

         6                      Senator Montgomery.

         7                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  I will

         8       yield to Senator Gold.

         9                      SENATOR GOLD:  Thank you,

        10       Senator.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        12       Senator Gold.

        13                      SENATOR GOLD:  I just have one

        14       question.  Will the Senator yield to one

        15       question?

        16                      SENATOR JOHNSON: Yes.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        18       Senator yields, Senator Gold.

        19                      SENATOR GOLD:  Yes.  My notes

        20       indicate you had this bill last year and I

        21       voted in favor of it and probably will today

        22       but maybe you can help me with a question that

        23       I was going to ask Senator Skelos.  It's part

        24       of the same issue.

        25                      Your bill, Calendar Number 412,







                                                          2240

         1       came on our calendar direct to Third on March

         2       17th.  The bill before it was March 10th,

         3       March 10th, March 10th.  Senator Skelos' bill

         4       was March 3rd, when it hit the calendar, and

         5       Senator Hannon's bill was January 27th.

         6                      Senator Johnson, do you know

         7       any reason why your will had to be reported

         8       directly to Third back on March 17th, which

         9       was instead of ordering it to First Report,

        10       Second and Third rather than going directly to

        11       the calendar on this?

        12                      (Microphones inoperative).

        13                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  This was

        14       something on the agenda.

        15                      SENATOR GOLD:  And what?

        16                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  We had to get

        17       some bills that we could put on the calendar

        18       and we had titles of two bills to put on the

        19       calendar.

        20                      SENATOR GOLD:  Well, Senator

        21       Johnson, I appreciate your candor.  One of the

        22       problems with this, when they get it on the -

        23       maybe I can get an answer but, Senator, we now

        24       have a calendar that's pages and pages of

        25       bills on third report, and I think -- thank







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         1       you for your help.

         2                      I think Senator Montgomery

         3       wants to discuss the bill.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Yes.

         5       Senator Montgomery, why do you rise?

         6                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Yes.

         7       Thank you, Mr. President.

         8                      I would like to ask a question

         9       of Senator -- of Senator Johnson, if he would

        10       yield.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        12       Senator Johnson, do you yield to a question?

        13                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Yes, Mr.

        14       President.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        16       Senator yields, Senator Montgomery.

        17                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Mr.

        18       President, I have this memo, and I want to be

        19       sure it's not outdated which seems to often

        20       happen that we have an outdated memo, and I

        21       read here in this particular memo where we're

        22       talking about you use the example of on Long

        23       Island, on an average of three times a week

        24       Nassau and Suffolk police stop a vehicle with

        25       an under-age unlicensed driver and between '87







                                                          2242

         1       and '91 at least one driver aged 15 or younger

         2       was involved in a fatal crash on Long Island.

         3                      Is that more prevalent in other

         4       parts of the state than in Long Island or is

         5       this -- is this an example that gives us an

         6       average view of this problem?

         7                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  I really

         8       can't say, although in that -- in that release

         9       which you are referring to, there was

        10       reference to an under-age driver in upstate

        11       New York running into a school bus.  I'm sure

        12       these things happen all around the state.  All

        13       we're saying is, we're going to let you know

        14       that you give up your license, your right to

        15       have a license legally until age 18 or 21 at

        16       the discretion of the judge if you do drive

        17       unlicensed, or perhaps these youngsters would

        18       restrain themselves for a year or two until

        19       they can get a legal license and that's really

        20       what they'd like to do, I think.

        21                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  All

        22       right.  And does -- if you would yield to just

        23       one more question, Mr. President.

        24                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Yes.

        25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:







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         1       Senator Johnson, do you yield to one more

         2       question?

         3                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  Yes.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         5       Senator yields.

         6                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Yes, Mr.

         7       President.  This -- Senator, this would cover

         8       specifically young people who are caught

         9       driving without a license under age?

        10                      SENATOR JOHNSON:  That's

        11       correct.  The law presently covers 16 and

        12       over.  We're moving the age to 14, including a

        13       14 to 16 cohort including the over 16 which is

        14       presently covered under this law.

        15                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  Yes, all

        16       right.  Thank you.

        17                      Mr. President, just briefly on

        18       the bill.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        20       Senator Montgomery, on the bill.

        21                      SENATOR MONTGOMERY:  I believe

        22       I voted against this bill in the past, and I

        23       will vote against it today only because I am

        24       concerned that we are limiting the possibility

        25       of a young person who can get a job in a







                                                          2244

         1       shopping center or in a Burger King or

         2       wherever, that is a distance from their home

         3       especially if they live in certain parts of

         4       the state and they need to drive to get there

         5       because there is not transportation and at 17

         6       they can't get a little job because they're

         7       ineligible to get a license or to have, you

         8       know -- to have access to a driver's license.

         9                      So I think that this is sort of

        10       over-reaching in that, as Senator Johnson has

        11       not -- has not indicated that this is an

        12       overwhelming problem that we have to punish

        13       all of our young people in the state for a few

        14       young people who do get behind the wheel

        15       without a license and under age, and let me

        16       just say that in my district there is now a

        17       Youth Court which is going be part of a

        18       community court which is an alternative

        19       community-based court system, and part of

        20       that, the reason that we have a Youth Court is

        21       that young people can be dealt with for these

        22       kinds of minor -- relatively minor infractions

        23       before it reaches a stage of actual

        24       criminality, but nonetheless they can pay some

        25       kind of restitution which becomes meaningful







                                                          2245

         1       to them, and in addition they can participate

         2       in the court so that they begin to understand

         3       the meaning of their behavior and its

         4       relationship to the criminal justice system.

         5       So I would much rather us direct young people

         6       to that kind of process than to just cut off

         7       the availability of work for them.

         8                      So I'm going to vote against it

         9       again, Mr. President.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        11       the last section.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 4.

        13       This act shall take effect in 120 days.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        15       the roll.

        16                      (The Secretary called the

        17       roll. )

        18                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 52, nays

        19       2, Senators Montgomery and Smith recorded in

        20       the negative.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        22       bill is passed.

        23                      Senator Skelos, that completes

        24       the reading of the controversial calendar.

        25                      SENATOR SKELOS:  If we could







                                                          2246

         1       return to motions and resolutions.  I believe

         2       there's a Resolution Number 2421, by Senator

         3       Nozzolio.  I ask that it be read in its

         4       entirety.  This resolution was previously

         5       passed.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         7       Secretary will read.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator

         9       Nozzolio, Legislative Resolution 2421,

        10       honoring Kenneth "Ken" Burns and welcoming him

        11       to the New York State Capitol.

        12                      WHEREAS, individuals who

        13       distinguish themselves in their chosen fields

        14       of endeavor, dedicating themselves to its

        15       enhancement and leading it in new directions,

        16       are an asset beyond remuneration and cannot be

        17       sufficiently extolled; and

        18                      WHEREAS, with great admiration

        19       and respect, this legislative body is proud to

        20       honor Kenneth "Ken" Burns for his commitment

        21       to celebrating America's history and bringing

        22       it to life for millions of Americans, and

        23       warmly welcomes him to the New York State

        24       Capitol.

        25                      A world-renowned







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         1       cinematographer, director, producer and

         2       writer, Ken Burns is the most accomplished

         3       documentary filmmaker of his generation; and

         4                      WHEREAS, born in Brooklyn, New

         5       York in 1953, Ken Burns graduated from

         6       Hampshire College in Amherst, Massachusetts in

         7       1975 and went on to become one of the

         8       co-founders of Florentine Films.

         9                      Ken Burns has been making

        10       documentary films for more than 20 years.  In

        11       1981, he produced and directed the Academy

        12       Award nominated Brooklyn Bridge.  He has gone

        13       on to make several other award-winning films,

        14       including The Shakers:  Hands to Work, Hearts

        15       to God, The Statue of Liberty, also nominated

        16       for an Oscar; Huey Long, the story of the

        17       turbulent southern dictator, which enjoyed a

        18       rare theatrical release; The Congress:  The

        19       History and Promise of Representative

        20       Government, Lindbergh, Thomas Hart Benton, a

        21       portrait of the regionalist artist; and Empire

        22       of the Air:  The Men Who Made Radio; and

        23                      WHEREAS, he has also produced

        24       and directed two films, William Segal and

        25       Vezelay, which explore the question of search







                                                          2248

         1       and individual identity through the work and

         2       teachings of philosopher and painter William

         3       Segal; and

         4                      Ken Burns' credits include, in

         5       addition, the critically acclaimed landmark

         6       television series, The Civil War.  This film

         7       was the highest rated series in the history of

         8       American Public Television, and attracted an

         9       audience of 40 million during its premiere in

        10       September 1990. This 11-hour 9-part series has

        11       been honored with more than 40 major film and

        12       television awards, including two Emmys, two

        13       Grammy Awards, Producer of the Year Award from

        14       The Producers' Guild, People's Choice Award,

        15       Peabody Award, duPont-Columbia Award, D.W.

        16       Griffiths Award, and the $50,000 Lincoln

        17       Prize, among dozens of others; and

        18                      WHEREAS, four and a half years

        19       in the making and eighteen and one-half hours

        20       in length, Ken Burns' film Baseball covered

        21       the history of baseball from the 1840s to the

        22       present.  Through the extensive use of

        23       archival photographs and newsreel footage,

        24       baseball as a mirror of our larger society was

        25       brought to the screen over nine nights during







                                                          2249

         1       its premiere in September 1994.  It became the

         2       most watched series in PBS history and earned

         3       numerous additional awards for its excellence

         4       and achievements; and

         5                      WHEREAS, in the fall of 1996,

         6       his film The West, an eight-part, twelve and

         7       one-half hour film series on the American west

         8       was released; The West is the story of one of

         9       the great crossroads in human history, a place

        10       where, tragically and heroically, the best of

        11       us met the worst of us and nothing was left

        12       unchanged.  Ken Burns was executive producer

        13       and creative consultant for this film which

        14       won the 1997 Erik Barnouw Prize; and

        15                      WHEREAS, in February of 1997,

        16       Ken Burns released first in a series of filmed

        17       biographies on noteworthy Americans, Thomas

        18       Jefferson, a three-hour portrait of our third

        19       president, explores the contradictions of the

        20       man who was revered as the author of the most

        21       sacred document in American history and

        22       condemned as a lifelong owner of slaves.

        23                      Thomas Jefferson was followed

        24       in the fall of 1997 by the broadcast of Lewis

        25       and Clark:  The Journey of the Corps of







                                                          2250

         1       Discovery and films on the lives of Frank

         2       Lloyd Wright and Mark Twain; and.

         3                      WHEREAS, this legislative body

         4       wishes to congratulate Ken Burns on his latest

         5       project, a documentary on the lives and

         6       accomplishments of Susan B. Anthony and

         7       Elizabeth Cady Stanton in leading the efforts

         8       for women's rights in America and gaining the

         9       right to vote for women.

        10                      This project is especially

        11       noteworthy in this year, 1998, the 150th

        12       Anniversary of the Women's Rights Convention

        13       held in Seneca Falls, New York in 1848.  New

        14       York State and the village of Seneca Falls are

        15       justifiably proud to be recognized as the

        16       birthplace of the women's rights movement.

        17                      This legislative body

        18       appreciates that Ken Burns has turned his

        19       creative talents to making our nation aware of

        20       the tremendous accomplishments that these two

        21       New York women, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and

        22       Susan B. Anthony, made to the women's rights

        23       movement which is such an important part of

        24       New York State's history.

        25                      This legislature body and the







                                                          2251

         1       people of the state and nation look forward to

         2       his next major series, a history of jazz and a

         3       sequel to Baseball and The Civil War to be

         4       broadcast in the year 2000; and

         5                      WHEREAS, it is the sense of

         6       this legislative body to honor and pay tribute

         7       to those individuals whose commitment and

         8       creative talents have contributed so

         9       significantly to the education, entertainment,

        10       and cultural enrichment of the citizens of the

        11       state of New York.

        12                      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED,

        13       that this legislative body pause in its

        14       deliberations to welcome Ken Burns to the New

        15       York State Capitol and to extend to him its

        16       highest commendation and deepest respect for a

        17       celebration of America's history, bringing it

        18       to life for people of all ages, cultures and

        19       educational background; and

        20                      BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that a

        21       copy of this resolution, suitably engrossed,

        22       be transmitted to Ken Burns.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        24       Senator Nozzolio.

        25                      SENATOR NOZZOLIO:  Mr.







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         1       President, on the resolution.

         2                      Mr. President, we are honored

         3       today in this chamber by the presence of the

         4       subject of this resolution.  It is with great

         5       honor and distinction that I welcome and

         6       introduce to my colleagues, Ken Burns, the

         7       premier story teller of our time, that I for

         8       one am extremely thrilled that Mr. Burns has

         9       taken upon himself a new project that focuses

        10       on two native New Yorkers, Elizabeth Cady

        11       Stanton and Susan B. Anthony; that, through

        12       Mr. Burns' work, future generations have a

        13       much greater appreciation of the depth, scope

        14       and breadth of our rich American history.

        15                      It is with that that I welcome

        16       Ken Burns to Albany and to the state Senate,

        17       congratulate him for his wonderful record of

        18       accomplishment, terrific contribution to our

        19       society, and we wish you good luck with all

        20       future projects.

        21                      Welcome, Mr. Burns.

        22                      (Applause)

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        24       Senator Skelos.

        25                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,







                                                          2253

         1       there will be an immediate meeting of the

         2       Rules Committee in the Majority Conference

         3       Room, and the Senate will stand at ease

         4       temporarily.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There

         6       will be an immediate meeting of the Rules

         7       Committee in the Majority Conference Room.

         8       The Senate will stand at ease.

         9                      (The Senate stood at ease from

        10       3:56 p.m. to 4:01 p.m.)

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        12       Senate will come to order.

        13                      Senator Skelos.

        14                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        15       if we could return to reports of standing

        16       committees.  I believe there's a report of the

        17       Rules Committee at the desk.  I ask that it be

        18       read.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        20       Secretary will read.

        21                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator Bruno,

        22       from the Committee on Rules, reports the

        23       following bill direct to third reading:

        24                      Senate Print 6682, by Senator

        25       Saland, an act to amend Chapter 705 of the







                                                          2254

         1       Laws of 1993, amending the Economic

         2       Development Law.

         3                      SENATOR GOLD:  Without

         4       objection.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         6       Without objection, to third reading.

         7                      Senator Skelos.

         8                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Please read

         9       the last section.

        10                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        11       the last section.

        12                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        13       524, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 6682, an

        14       act to amend Chapter 705 of the Laws of 1993.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        16       the roll.  Read the last section.

        17                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        18       This act shall take effect immediately.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        20       the roll.

        21                      (The Secretary called the

        22       roll. )

        23                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 55.

        24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        25       bill is passed.







                                                          2255

         1                      Senator Skelos.

         2                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

         3       if we could stand at ease once again.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         5       Senate will stand at ease.

         6                      (The Senate stood at ease from

         7       4:03 p.m. To 4:15 p.m.)

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senate

         9       will come to order.

        10                      Senator Larkin.

        11                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Mr. President,

        12       let's return to the calendar, and we'll take

        13       up Calendar Number 483, by Senator Maziarz.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        15       Secretary will read.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        17       483, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 6584-B,

        18       an act to amend the Social Services Law.

        19                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:

        20       Explanation.

        21                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Is there a

        22       message at the desk?

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Yes,

        24       Senator, there is a message of necessity at

        25       the desk.







                                                          2256

         1                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Move we accept

         2       the message.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  All in

         4       favor of accepting the message of necessity

         5       signify by saying aye.

         6                      (Response of "Aye.")

         7                      Opposed nay.

         8                      (There was no response. )

         9                      The message is accepted.

        10                      Read the last section.

        11                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:

        12       Explanation.

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  O.K.

        14       Senator Maziarz, an explanation has been

        15       requested by Senator Stachowski.

        16                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Thank you

        17       very much, Mr. President.

        18                      Mr. President, this legislation

        19       was just passed last week to authorize payment

        20       through the state's Medicaid program for

        21       Medicaid -- Medicare Part B premiums for

        22       Medicare beneficiaries whose income falls

        23       between 120 percent and 135 percent of the

        24       federal poverty level, and to pay a portion of

        25       the premium for beneficiaries whose incomes







                                                          2257

         1       fall between 135 percent and 175 percent of

         2       the federal poverty level.

         3                      This bill has been amended to

         4       make a technical change in the reference to

         5       federal law and to direct the Commissioner of

         6       Health to develop a simplified application

         7       form as well as to work in cooperation with

         8       the state Office of the Aging to publicize the

         9       availability of these payments.

        10                      Thank you, Mr. President.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        12       the last section.

        13                      Senator Paterson.

        14                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Just prior

        15       to reading the last section, I'd just like to

        16       know if the Senator will yield to a question.

        17                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Certainly,

        18       Mr. President.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        20       Senator yields.

        21                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Senator, I

        22       was just curious.  We have passed the "A"

        23       print of this bill last week.  I guess it has

        24       some federal compliance, and it has some other

        25       issues that we have changed.  Could you just







                                                          2258

         1       familiarize us with what the changes were from

         2       last week, how the bill is improved by -- I'd

         3       just like to know -

         4                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  When Senator

         5       Gold is done, I'll answer your question.

         6                      SENATOR PATERSON:  He's helping

         7       you out.

         8                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Basically,

         9       Senator Paterson, through the efforts of the

        10       AARP, the Governor's office and the Department

        11       of Health and state Office of the Aging, there

        12       have been some ongoing negotiations regarding

        13       the application process.  If you can believe

        14       it or not, the federal application process to

        15       ascertain these funds by a senior was 14 pages

        16       long.  Through the efforts of Governor

        17       Pataki's office, the AARP, the Department of

        18       Health, state Office of the Aging, my staff

        19       and the Assembly staff, we have been able to

        20       reduce that application to, right now I think

        21       we're at less than four pages.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        23       Senator Paterson.

        24                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Is there a

        25       reason for that?







                                                          2259

         1                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  There is a

         2       reason for the change, Senator Paterson,

         3       despite the fact Senator Gold wanted that 14

         4       page application, we deemed a 4-page

         5       application to be much more simplified.

         6                      SENATOR PATERSON:  One wonders

         7       what Senator Gold will do with the extra

         8       time.

         9                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Well, Senator

        10       Gold is not running for reelection, we

        11       understand.

        12                      SENATOR GOLD:  Point of order.

        13       Point of order, Mr. President.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Point

        15       of order.

        16                      SENATOR GOLD:  Yeah, there's 60

        17       other guys to pick on.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        19       Senator Paterson.

        20                      SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:  I'm not a

        21       guy.

        22                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  Isn't Gold

        23       old enough to collect?

        24                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Senator, the

        25       deadline is fast approaching on the bill, Mr.







                                                          2260

         1       President.  I just hope we'll have an

         2       agreement with the Assembly.  I don't know

         3       whether or not this is an agreed-upon bill.

         4       You might want to share that with us, but in

         5       light of the deadline I just hope we'll have

         6       something very shortly.

         7                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Just on the

         8       bill.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        10       Senator Maziarz.

        11                      SENATOR MAZIARZ:  Senator

        12       Paterson, there is three-way agreement on this

        13       bill.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read

        15       the last section.

        16                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        17       This act shall take effect immediately.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        19       the roll.

        20                      (The Secretary called the

        21       roll. )

        22                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 55.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        24       bill is passed.

        25                      Senator Larkin.







                                                          2261

         1                      SENATOR LARKIN:  Mr. President,

         2       we'll now stand at ease until 5:30 p.m.,

         3       tonight.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         5       Senate will stand at ease until 5:30 p.m.  Why

         6       do you rise?

         7                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Until 5:30.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  5:30.

         9                      SENATOR PATERSON:  That's 5:30,

        10       Mr. President.  It has to do with the state of

        11       Utah, Mr. President.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        13       Senate will stand at ease.

        14                      (Whereupon at 4:20 p.m., the

        15       Senate was at ease.)

        16                      (At 5:53 p.m., the Senate

        17       reconvened.)

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        19       Senator Skelos.

        20                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Would you

        21       return to motions and resolutions.  Would you

        22       please recognize Senator Farley.

        23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        24       Senator Farley.

        25                      SENATOR FARLEY:  It's nice to







                                                          2262

         1       be recognized.  Thank you, Senator Skelos.

         2                      Mr. President, on behalf of

         3       Senator Stafford, I wish to call up his bill,

         4       Print Number 6101-B, which was recalled from

         5       the Assembly which is now at the desk.

         6                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         7       Secretary will read.

         8                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         9       434, Budget Bill, Senate Print 6101-B, an act

        10       making appropriations for legal requirements

        11       of the state debt service.

        12                      SENATOR FARLEY:  Mr. President,

        13       I now move to reconsider the vote by which

        14       this bill was passed.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        16       the roll on reconsideration.

        17                      (The Secretary called the roll

        18       on reconsideration.)

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 55.

        20                      SENATOR FARLEY:  Mr. President,

        21       I now move to amend Senate Bill Number 6101-B

        22       by striking out the amendments made on March

        23       20th and restoring it to its previous print,

        24       6101-A.

        25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The







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         1       amendments are made.  The bill is restored to

         2       third reading.

         3                      SENATOR FARLEY:  On the same

         4       bill, Mr. President, I now offer the following

         5       amendments to Calendar Number 434, Senate

         6       Print 6101-A, and I ask that that bill retain

         7       its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         9       amendments are received, and so ordered.

        10                      Senator Skelos.

        11                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Is there any

        12       other housekeeping at the desk?

        13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  No,

        14       there is not.

        15                      SENATOR SKELOS:  There will be

        16       an immediate meeting of the Finance Committee

        17       in the Majority Conference Room and the Senate

        18       will stand at ease pending the receipt of the

        19       Finance Committee report.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        21       Immediate meeting of the Finance Committee.

        22       The Senate will stand at ease pending the

        23       report of the Finance Committee.

        24                      (The Senate stood at ease from

        25       5:55 p.m. until 6:09 p.m.)







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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         2       Senator Skelos.

         3                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

         4       if we could return to reports of standing

         5       committees, I believe there's a report of the

         6       Finance Committee at the desk.  I ask that it

         7       be read.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         9       Reports of standing committees.  The Secretary

        10       will read.

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Senator

        12       Stafford, from the Committee on Finance,

        13       reports the following bills direct to third

        14       reading:

        15                      Senate Print 6700, by the

        16       Senate Committee on Rules, an act making

        17       appropriations for the support of government;

        18       and

        19                      6701, by the Senate Committee

        20       on Rules, an act making appropriations for the

        21       support of government.

        22                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Move to accept

        23       the report.

        24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        25       Without objection, directly to third reading.







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         1                      Senator Skelos.

         2                      SENATOR SKELOS:  At this time

         3       if we could take up Calendar Number 525,

         4       Senate 6700.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         6       Secretary will read.

         7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

         8       525, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

         9       Print 6700, an act making appropriations for

        10       the support of government.

        11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        12       Senator Skelos.

        13                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        14       is there a message of necessity at the desk?

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Yes,

        16       Senator Skelos, there is.

        17                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Move to

        18       accept.

        19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  All in

        20       favor of accepting the message of necessity

        21       signify by saying aye.

        22                      (Response of "Aye".)

        23                      Opposed, nay.

        24                      (There was no response.)

        25                      The message is accepted.







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         1                      Read the last section.

         2                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 6.

         3       This act shall take effect April 1.

         4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         5       Senator Nanula.

         6                      SENATOR NANULA:  One question

         7       for either Senator Skelos or our fine Majority

         8       Chairman, I should say, of the Senate Finance

         9       Committee.

        10                      Senator -- through you, Mr.

        11       President.  Senator, is this the bill that

        12       provides pay for legislative members?

        13                      SENATOR STAFFORD:  Yes.

        14                      SENATOR NANULA:  It is.  Thank

        15       you very much.

        16                      On the bill.

        17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        18       Senator Nanula, on the bill.

        19                      SENATOR NANULA:  With great

        20       brevity.

        21                      Since being elected in 1994 and

        22       having had late budgets every year since 1994,

        23       I have historically voted against these

        24       extenders for the simple reason that I have

        25       been a great believer and supporter of the







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         1       concept of docking, or of suspending at least

         2       pay for members until we get our business, and

         3       that's the business of the budget, completed.

         4                      This year I am voting in favor

         5       of this bill and I am for one simple reason,

         6       and that is that we are breaking new ground.

         7       We are setting a new precedent at least that

         8       hasn't been seen in this legislative body and

         9       that is the concept and process of Conference

        10       Committees, which I hope will become a new

        11       precedent that will render us timely budgets

        12       and also a process that will involve the

        13       legislative bodies, not only including our

        14       leaders but our rank and file members of both

        15       Majority and Minority sides of the aisle and

        16       for those reasons, I am now voting certainly,

        17       or I should say at least for this one-week

        18       extender based upon those reasons, Mr.

        19       President.

        20                      Thank you.

        21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        22       the roll.

        23                      (The Secretary called the

        24       roll.)

        25                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 55, nays







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         1       1, Senator Hoffmann recorded in the negative.

         2                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         3       bill is passed.

         4                      Senator Skelos.

         5                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

         6       would you call up Calendar Number 526, Senate

         7       6701.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         9       Secretary will read.

        10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        11       526, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

        12       Print 6701, an act making appropriations for

        13       the support of government.

        14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        15       Senator Skelos.

        16                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        17       is there a message of necessity at the desk?

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There

        19       is a message at the desk.

        20                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Move to

        21       accept.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        23       motion is to accept the message of necessity.

        24       All those in favor signify by saying aye.

        25                      (Response of "Aye".)







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         1                      Opposed, nay.

         2                      (There was no response.)

         3                      The message is accepted.

         4                      Read the last section.

         5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 15.

         6       This act shall take effect immediately.

         7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

         8       the roll.

         9                      (The Secretary called the

        10       roll.)

        11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 56.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        13       bill is passed.

        14                      Senator Skelos.

        15                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        16       would you call up Calendar Number 534, Senate

        17       6101-C.

        18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        19       Secretary will read.

        20                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        21       434, Budget Bill, Senate Print 6101-C, an act

        22       making appropriations for the legal

        23       requirements of the state debt service.

        24                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Is there a

        25       message at the desk?







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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There

         2       is a message.

         3                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Move to

         4       accept.

         5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

         6       motion is to accept the message of necessity.

         7       All those in favor signify by saying aye.

         8                      (Response of "Aye".)

         9                      Opposed, nay.

        10                      (There was no response.)

        11                      The message is accepted.

        12                      Read the last section.

        13                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.

        14       This act shall take effect April 1.

        15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call

        16       the roll.

        17                      (The Secretary called the

        18       roll.)

        19                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 56.

        20                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        21       bill is passed.

        22                      Senator?

        23                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Is there any

        24       housekeeping at the desk?

        25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:







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         1       There's no housekeeping at the desk.

         2                      SENATOR GOLD:  Mr. President.

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         4       Senator Gold.

         5                      SENATOR GOLD:  If you would be

         6       kind enough to recognize the distinguished

         7       representative from the distinguished county

         8       of Westchester, Senator Oppenheimer.

         9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        10       Senator Oppenheimer.

        11                      SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:  Oh, who

        12       is that?  Just if I may get unanimous consent

        13       to be recorded in the negative on, I think

        14       it's Calendar 525.

        15                      SENATOR SKELOS:  No objection.

        16                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

        17       Without objection, Senator Oppenheimer will be

        18       recorded in the negative on Calendar 525.

        19                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

        20       if we could just -- if we could stand at ease,

        21       please.

        22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        23       Senate will stand at ease.

        24                      (The Senate stood at ease from

        25       6:14 p.m. until 6:15 p.m.)







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         1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

         2       Senator Skelos.

         3                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

         4       on behalf of Senator Bruno, I want to announce

         5       the meetings of the subcommittees of the Joint

         6       Conference Committee commencing tomorrow,

         7       Tuesday, March 31st.

         8                      At 9:30 a.m., the Cycle 1

         9       Subcommittees will meet, Economic Development/

        10       Taxes in Hearing Room C; General Government/

        11       Local Assistance in Room 342 of the Capitol;

        12       Mental Hygiene in Room 124 of the Capitol and

        13       Education in Room 711-A of the Legislative

        14       Office Building.

        15                      Cycle 2 Subcommittees will meet

        16       at 11:30, Transportation in Hearing Room C;

        17       Health, Room 711-A, Legislative Office

        18       Building; Higher Education, 124 of the

        19       Capitol; Human Services, Room 342 of the

        20       Capitol and Public Protection, Room 120 of the

        21       Legislative Office Building.

        22                      We would ask that all members

        23       of the respective subcommittees be on time and

        24       wish them Godspeed tomorrow.  Is there any

        25       other -- we'll hand this up for filing.







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         1                      Is there any other housekeeping

         2       at the desk, Mr. President?

         3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There

         4       is no other housekeeping.

         5                      SENATOR SKELOS:  There being no

         6       further business, I move we adjourn subject to

         7       the call of the Majority Leader.

         8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  On

         9       motion -- Senator Stachowski.

        10                      SENATOR STACHOWSKI:  No, no.  I

        11       just want to ask him some questions.

        12                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  On

        13       motion, the Senate stands adjourned upon the

        14       call of the Majority Leader.

        15                      (Whereupon, at 6:23 p.m., the

        16       Senate adjourned.)

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