Regular Session - May 20, 1998

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        8                      ALBANY, NEW YORK

        9                        May 20, 1998

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       13                      REGULAR SESSION

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       17        SENATOR RAYMOND A. MEIER, Acting President

       18        STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

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        1                      P R O C E E D I N G S

        2                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        3        Senate will come to order.  I ask everyone

        4        present to please rise and repeat with me the

        5        Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.

        6                      (The assemblage repeated the

        7        Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

        8                      In the absence, I ask that we bow

        9        our heads in a moment of silence.

       10                      (A moment of silence was

       11        observed.)

       12                      Reading of the Journal.

       13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

       14                      THE SECRETARY:  In Senate,

       15        Tuesday, May 19th.  The Senate met pursuant to

       16        adjournment, Senator Kuhl in the Chair upon

       17        designation of the Temporary President.  The

       18        Journal of Monday, May 18th, was read and

       19        approved.  On motion, the Senate adjourned.

       20                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Without

       21        objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

       22                      Presentation of petitions.

       23                      Messages from the Assembly.

       24                      Messages from the Governor.

       25                      Reports of standing committees.







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        1                      Reports of select committees.

        2                      Communications and reports from

        3        state officers.

        4                      Motions and resolutions.

        5                      Senator Fuschillo.

        6                      SENATOR FUSCHILLO:  Mr. President,

        7        on page number 68, I offer the following

        8        amendments to Calendar Number 1161, Senate Print

        9        Number 5583-A, and ask that that the bill retain

       10        its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

       11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

       12        amendments are received.  The bill will retain

       13        its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

       14                      Senator Skelos.

       15                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Are there any

       16        substitutions to be made?

       17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Not at

       18        this time, Senator Skelos, no.

       19                      SENATOR SKELOS:  I believe there's

       20        a privileged resolution at the desk by Senator

       21        Nozzolio.  May we please have the title read and

       22        move for its immediate adoption.

       23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

       24        Secretary will read the title.

       25                      THE SECRETARY:  By Senator







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        1        Nozzolio, Legislative Resolution 3549,
commending

        2        the village of Waterloo, New York, as the

        3        federally designated birth place of Memorial
Day.

        4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        5        question is on the resolution.  All in favor

        6        signify by saying aye.

        7                      (Response of "Aye".)

        8                      Opposed, nay.

        9                      (There was no response.)

       10                      The resolution is adopted.

       11                      Senator Skelos.

       12                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

       13        would you please take up the non-controversial

       14        calendar.

       15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

       16        Secretary will read the non-controversial

       17        calendar.

       18                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number 4,

       19        by Senator Libous, Senate Print 3887-a, an act
to

       20        amend the Mental Hygiene Law, in relation to

       21        investigations.

       22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       23        last section.

       24                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

       25        act shall take effect immediately.







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        1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        2        roll.

        3                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        4                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 37.

        5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        6        is passed.

        7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        8        130, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 2305-A, an

        9        act to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in

       10        relation to subjecting certain state lands.

       11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       12        last section.

       13                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       14        act shall take effect immediately.

       15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       16        roll.

       17                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       18                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 37.

       19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       20        is passed.

       21                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       22        137, by Senator Balboni, Senate Print 337-A, an

       23        act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

       24        establishing the crime of endangering the
welfare

       25        of a vulnerable elderly person.







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        1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        2        last section.

        3                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 6.  This

        4        act shall take effect November 1.

        5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        6        roll.

        7                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        8                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

        9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       10        is passed.

       11                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       12        242, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 3930-B, an

       13        act to amend the Private Housing Finance Law, in

       14        relation to participation.

       15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       16        last section.

       17                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       18        act shall take effect immediately.

       19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       20        roll.

       21                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       22                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

       23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       24        is passed.

       25                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number







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        1        253, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 6152-A, an

        2        act to amend the Private Housing Finance Law, in

        3        relation to affordable housing loans.

        4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        5        last section.

        6                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

        7        act shall take effect immediately.

        8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        9        roll.

       10                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

       12                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       13        is passed.

       14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       15        264, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 680-B, an

       16        act to amend the Public Health Law, the Tax Law

       17        and the State Finance Law, in relation to the

       18        Alzheimer's Research Fund.

       19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       20        last section.

       21                      THE SECRETARY:  Section -

       22                      SENATOR LEICHTER:  Lay the bill

       23        aside.

       24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Lay the

       25        bill aside.







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        1                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        2        320, by Senator Holland, Senate Print 3029-A, an

        3        act to create the Piermont Library District in a

        4        portion of the town of Orangetown.

        5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        6        last section.

        7                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 8.  This

        8        act shall take effect immediately.

        9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       10        roll.

       11                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       12                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

       13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       14        is passed.

       15                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       16        338, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print
4117-A,

       17        an act to amend the Navigation Law, in he

       18        relation to equipment.

       19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       20        last section.

       21                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       22        act shall take effect on the 180th day.

       23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       24        roll.

       25                      (The Secretary called the roll.)







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        1                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

        2                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        3        is passed.

        4                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        5        472, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 1951-A, an

        6        act to amend the County Law, in relation to

        7        establishing the Chenango County Emergency

        8        Communications Systems.

        9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There is

       10        a home rule message at the desk.  Read the last

       11        section.

       12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       13        act shall take effect on the first day of

       14        January.

       15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       16        roll.

       17                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       18                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 38.

       19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       20        is passed.

       21                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       22        476, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 6146, an
act

       23        to amend the County Law, in relation to

       24        authorizing the county of Tioga.

       25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There's a







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        1        home rule message at the desk.  Read the last

        2        section.

        3                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 5.  This

        4        act shall take effect immediately.

        5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        6        roll.

        7                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        8                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

        9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       10        is passed.

       11                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       12        531, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 4049-A, an

       13        act to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in

       14        relation to partial payments.

       15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       16        last section.

       17                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       18        act shall take effect immediately.

       19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       20        roll.

       21                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       22                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

       23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       24        is passed.

       25                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number







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        1        568, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 4115-A, an

        2        act to amend the Public Health Law and the
Social

        3        Services Law, in relation to instituting.

        4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        5        last section.

        6                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay it aside.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Lay the

        8        bill aside.

        9                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       10        570, by Senator Lack, Senate Print 2374-B, an
act

       11        to amend the Parks, Recreation and Historic

       12        Preservation Law, in relation to establishing.

       13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       14        last section.

       15                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 4.  This

       16        act shall take effect immediately.

       17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       18        roll.

       19                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       20                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

       21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       22        is passed.

       23                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       24        571, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 6132-A,

       25        an act to amend the Parks, Recreation and







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        1        Historic Preservation Law, in relation to the

        2        display of the POW/MIA recognition flag.

        3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        4        last section.

        5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        6        act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        8        roll.

        9                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       10                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

       11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       12        is passed.

       13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       14        634, by Senator Cook, Senate Print 6278, an act

       15        to amend the Town Law, in relation to the

       16        settlement of claims.

       17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       18        last section.

       19                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       20        act shall take effect -

       21                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Lay it aside.

       22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Lay the

       23        bill aside.

       24                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       25        635, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 6315, an







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        1        act authorizing the village of Greenport to

        2        convey certain parklands.

        3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There is

        4        a home rule message at the desk.  Read the last

        5        section.

        6                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

        7        act shall take effect immediately.

        8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        9        roll.

       10                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.

       12                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       13        is passed.

       14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       15        639, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 6547, an act

       16        to amend the County Law, in relation to the

       17        jurisdiction of a coroner or medical examiner.

       18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       19        last section.

       20                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       21        act shall take effect immediately.

       22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       23        roll.

       24                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       25                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 40.







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        1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        2        is passed.

        3                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        4        640, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 6590, an
act

        5        authorizing the assessor of the county of Nassau

        6        to accept an application.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        8        last section.

        9                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       10        act shall take effect immediately.

       11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       12        roll.

       13                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       14                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 43, nays 2,

       15        Senators Cook and Dollinger recorded in the

       16        negative.

       17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       18        is passed.

       19                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       20        641, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 6746, an act

       21        to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in relation

       22        to making technical and clarifying amendments

       23        thereto.

       24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       25        last section.







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        1                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 8.  This

        2        act shall take effect immediately.

        3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        4        roll.

        5                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        6                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        8        is passed.

        9                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       10        653, by Senator Wright, Senate Print 6450-A, an

       11        act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

       12        including possession of an automated teller

       13        machine card.

       14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       15        last section.

       16                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

       17        act shall take effect on the first day of

       18        November.

       19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       20        roll.

       21                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       22                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

       23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       24        is passed.

       25                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number







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        1        671, by member of the Assembly Eve, Assembly

        2        Print 10031, an act to amend the State Finance

        3        Law, in relation to payment of emergency

        4        financial aid.

        5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        6        last section.

        7                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        8        act shall take effect immediately.

        9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       10        roll.

       11                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       12                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

       13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       14        is passed.

       15                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       16        753, by Senator Lack, Senate Print 6583, an act

       17        to amend the Judiciary Law, in relation to

       18        juror's waiver of allowance.

       19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       20        last section.

       21                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       22        act shall take effect immediately.

       23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       24        roll.

       25                      (The Secretary called the roll.)







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        1                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

        2                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        3        is passed.

        4                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        5        776, by Senator Wright, Senate Print 6879, an
act

        6        to amend Chapter 640 of the Laws of 1990.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        8        last section.

        9                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       10        act shall take effect immediately.

       11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       12        roll.

       13                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       14                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

       15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       16        is passed.

       17                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       18        781, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 7338, an
act

       19        to amend Chapter 884 of the Laws of 1990,

       20        amending the public Health Law.

       21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       22        last section.

       23                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       24        act shall take effect immediately.

       25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the







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        1        roll.

        2                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        3                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

        4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        5        is passed.

        6                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        7        804, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 490, an act

        8        to amend the Family Court Act, in relation to

        9        judicial notification.

       10                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       11        last section.

       12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       13        act shall take effect on the 90th day.

       14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       15        roll.

       16                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       17                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

       18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       19        is passed.

       20                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       21        805, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 491, an act

       22        to amend the Family Court Act, in relation to
the

       23        placement of children.

       24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       25        last section.







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        1                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        2        act shall take effect on the 120th day.

        3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        4        roll.

        5                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        6                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        8        is passed.

        9                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       10        807, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print 1279, an

       11        act to amend the Domestic Relations Law, in

       12        relation to visitation rights.

       13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       14        last section.

       15                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       16        act shall take effect immediately.

       17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       18        roll.

       19                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       20                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

       21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       22        is passed.

       23                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       24        808, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1737, an

       25        act to amend the Domestic Relations Law and the







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        1        Family Court Act, in relation to the visitation

        2        rights of great-grandparents.

        3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        4        last section.

        5                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

        6        act shall take effect immediately.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        8        roll.

        9                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       10                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

       11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       12        is passed.

       13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       14        817, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 6144, an
act

       15        to amend the Highway Law, in relation to

       16        increasing the limitation on the amount raised
by

       17        taxes.

       18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There's a

       19        home rule message at the desk.  Read the last

       20        section.

       21                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       22        act shall take effect on the first day of

       23        January.

       24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       25        roll.







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        1                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        2                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

        3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        4        is passed.

        5                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        6        819, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 6492, an

        7        act to amend the Highway Law, in relation to

        8        state highways in Niagara County.

        9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There's a

       10        home rule message at the desk.  Read the last

       11        section.

       12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

       13        act shall take effect on the first day of

       14        October.

       15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       16        roll.

       17                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       18                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

       19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       20        is passed.

       21                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       22        822, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print 6814, an

       23        act to amend the Highway Law, in relation to

       24        highway projects.

       25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the







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        1        last section.

        2                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        3        act shall take effect immediately.

        4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        5        roll.

        6                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        7                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 49.

        8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        9        is passed.

       10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       11        827, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 888 -

       12                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Lay it aside.

       13                      THE SECRETARY:  -- an act to amend

       14        the Penal Law.

       15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Lay the

       16        bill aside.

       17                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       18        829, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 3617-B, an

       19        act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules,
in

       20        relation to motions.

       21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       22        last section.

       23                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

       24        act shall take effect on the first day of

       25        January.







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        1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        2        roll.

        3                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        4                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

        5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        6        is passed.

        7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        8        832, by Senator Present, Senate Print 4007, an

        9        act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to the

       10        unlawful taking of trees.

       11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       12        last section.

       13                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 4.  This

       14        act shall take effect on the first day of

       15        November.

       16                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       17        roll.

       18                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       19                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

       20                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       21        is passed.

       22                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       23        834, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 4346-B, an

       24        act to amend the Penal Law and others, in

       25        relation to increasing the penalties for certain







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        1        criminal sales.

        2                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        3        last section.

        4                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 16.  This

        5        act shall take effect on the first day of

        6        November.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        8        roll.

        9                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       10                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

       11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       12        is passed.

       13                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       14        839, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 5976,

       15        an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

       16        relation to authorizing electronic appearance.

       17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       18        last section.

       19                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       20        act shall take effect immediately.

       21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       22        roll.

       23                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       24                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 51.

       25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill







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        1        is passed.

        2                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        3        841, by Senator Goodman, Senate Print 6196, an

        4        act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

        5        concurrent and consecutive terms of
imprisonment.

        6                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        7        last section.

        8                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        9        act shall take effect immediately.

       10                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       11        roll.

       12                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       13                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

       14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       15        is passed.

       16                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       17        850, by Senator Holland, Senate Print 6605, an

       18        act to amend Chapter 631 of the Laws of 1997,

       19        amending the Social Services Law.

       20                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       21        last section.

       22                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

       23        act shall take effect immediately.

       24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       25        roll.







                                                            3555

        1                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        2                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

        3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        4        is passed.

        5                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        6        862, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 5711-A,
an

        7        act to amend Chapter 973 of the Laws of 1867,

        8        relating to the Clifton Springs Water Cure

        9        Company.

       10                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       11        last section.

       12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 5.  This

       13        act shall take effect November 1.

       14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       15        roll.

       16                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       17                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

       18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       19        is passed.

       20                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       21        876, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 6381, an act

       22        to amend the Mental Hygiene Law, in relation to

       23        renaming of the Letchworth Village Developmental

       24        Disabilities Services.

       25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the







                                                            3556

        1        last section.

        2                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        3        act shall take effect immediately.

        4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        5        roll.

        6                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        7                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

        8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        9        is passed.

       10                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       11        877, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 7138, an

       12        act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law, in relation

       13        to renaming the Mid-Hudson Psychiatric Center.

       14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       15        last section.

       16                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

       17        act shall take effect immediately.

       18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       19        roll.

       20                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       21                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

       22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       23        is passed.

       24                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       25        986, by Senator Balboni, Senate Print 6860-A, an







                                                            3557

        1        act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

        2        relation to authorizing audiotaped or videotaped

        3        victim impact statements.

        4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        5        last section.

        6                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

        7        act shall take effect immediately.

        8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        9        roll.

       10                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       11                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

       12                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       13        is passed.

       14                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       15        1002, by Senator Balboni, Senate Print 6785, an

       16        act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

       17        relation to orders of protection.

       18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       19        last section.

       20                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

       21        act shall take effect immediately.

       22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       23        roll.

       24                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       25                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.







                                                            3558

        1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        2        is passed.

        3                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        4        1152, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 6916, an
act

        5        to amend the General Construction Law and
others,

        6        in relation to service in the Armed Forces.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        8        last section.

        9                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 14.  This

       10        act shall take effect immediately.

       11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       12        roll.

       13                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       14                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

       15                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       16        is passed.

       17                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       18        1175, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 2706, an

       19        act to amend the Public Service Law.

       20                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       21        last section -- the Secretary will read a

       22        substitution for Calendar 1175.

       23                      THE SECRETARY:  On page 69,

       24        Senator Leibell moves to discharge from the

       25        Committee on Veterans and Military Affairs







                                                            3559

        1        Assembly Bill Number 422 and substitute it for

        2        the identical Third Reading Calendar 1175.

        3                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        4        substitution is ordered.  The Secretary will

        5        read.

        6                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        7        1175, by member of the Assembly Gunther,
Assembly

        8        Print 422, an act to amend the Public Service

        9        Law, in relation to utility rates.

       10                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       11        last section.

       12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       13        act shall take effect immediately.

       14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       15        roll.

       16                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       17                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

       18                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       19        is passed.

       20                      Senator Skelos, that concludes the

       21        reading of the non-controversial calendar.

       22                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Mr. President,

       23        would you take up the controversial calendar,

       24        please.

       25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The







                                                            3560

        1        Secretary will read the controversial calendar.

        2                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        3        264, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 680-B, an

        4        act to amend the Public Health Law, the Tax Law

        5        and the State Finance Law, in relation to the

        6        Alzheimer's Research Fund.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

        8        Paterson.

        9                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Mr. President,

       10        this bill was laid aside by Senator Leichter and

       11        I would not portend to have any idea what
Senator

       12        Leichter thinks about this bill or what
questions

       13        he would like to ask.  He's okay with it.

       14                      Read the last section, Mr.

       15        President.

       16                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       17        last section.

       18                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 4.  This

       19        act shall take effect on the 31st day of

       20        December.

       21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       22        roll.

       23                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       24                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 53.

       25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill







                                                            3561

        1        is passed.

        2                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        3        568, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 4115-A, an

        4        act to amend the Public Health Law and the
Social

        5        Services Law, in relation to instituting.

        6                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Explanation.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

        8        Skleos, an explanation has been asked of
Calendar

        9        Number 568.

       10                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Yes, Mr.

       11        President.  This legislation which we've named

       12        Kathy's Law would require a criminal history

       13        report of all new nurses aides and of all new

       14        employees of home care service agencies whose

       15        jobs require direct care of patients.

       16                      All of us in our lives,

       17        unfortunately at some point, have to make a

       18        decision, whether it involves -- whether it

       19        involves an elderly parent, whether it involves
a

       20        member of the family that has been. or suffered
a

       21        traumatic injury.

       22                      Kathy who was in a coma for ten

       23        years from an automobile accident was raped by
an

       24        employee of the nursing home, became pregnant.

       25        The child was born.  Ultimately she passed away,







                                                            3562

        1        but when we do make that decision that we have
to

        2        put somebody in a nursing home, that we have to

        3        bring a home health care aid into our home or an

        4        elderly parents' home, we have a situation where

        5        an individual is extremely vulnerable.

        6                      We require training of

        7        individuals.  We require checking on certain

        8        immunization records, yet we do not know when

        9        this individual is put into the home in a

       10        position of trust whether, in fact, they have a

       11        criminal history which would really say they

       12        should not be in that home, should not be
working

       13        in that nursing home, and this legislation,

       14        through a criminal background check that can

       15        include fingerprinting, would add some peace of

       16        mind to individuals who have entrusted the care

       17        of their loved one either in a nursing home or
to

       18        a home health care aid.

       19                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Would the

       20        sponsor yield to one quick question?

       21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

       22        Skelos, do you yield to a question from Senator

       23        Dollinger?

       24                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Yes, absolutely.

       25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The







                                                            3563

        1        Senator yields.

        2                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Senator, this

        3        is clearly a well warranted idea.  As you know,

        4        in Rochester back in my home community, we had a

        5        very similar problem with a comatosed woman
raped

        6        by a nurse's aide or worker in a nursing home.

        7                      I just had a couple quick

        8        questions about the technical aspects of the
bill

        9        that I want to make sure I fully understand. 
One

       10        is the criminal background checks that will

       11        actually occur, how long. first of all, who is

       12        going to pay for them?  How long do you

       13        anticipate they'll take?  Will this put a real

       14        restraint on the hiring practices of nursing

       15        homes because, as you know, they have a

       16        significant turnover, which is one of the
reasons

       17        why they so easily fall prey, but where is the

       18        balance for getting these checks done quick

       19        enough so that they're.

       20                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Number one, the

       21        checks probably can be made within 30 days with

       22        the Division of Criminal Justice Services and

       23        even quicker.  If a person has a criminal

       24        background and they know that they're going to
be

       25        fingerprinted, number one, I think many of them







                                                            3564

        1        will probably not make that application for that

        2        job.

        3                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  I agree with

        4        that.

        5                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Many of the home

        6        health care agencies that we've discussed,

        7        myself, my office, the Attorney General's
office,

        8        concerning this legislation, nursing home

        9        individuals, owners of nursing homes, have no

       10        real problem with this legislation and the fact

       11        that it will lend support to them in hiring

       12        qualified people.  Right now they could not have

       13        an intensive criminal background check

       14        accomplished on these people.

       15                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  So the general

       16        sense, again through you, Mr. President, is it

       17        would take somewhere around 30 days and the

       18        nursing home industry is okay.

       19                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Probably less.

       20                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Okay.

       21                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Probably less.

       22                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Again through

       23        you, Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue

       24        to yield.

       25                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator







                                                            3565

        1        Skelos, do you continue to yield?

        2                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Senator

        3        Dollinger, just one other thing.  They still can

        4        hire that person subject to the report coming

        5        back.

        6                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Okay.  That

        7        was one of the other questions I wanted to ask.

        8        It does allow -- this does allow the nursing
home

        9        to actually hire someone, put them on the staff

       10        subject to a termination.

       11                      Does this bill specifically

       12        provide that you can terminate an employee who

       13        fails to survive the background check?

       14                      SENATOR SKELOS:  If they refuse to

       15        be fingerprinted?

       16                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  No.  Let's say

       17        they go through the fingerprinting process.

       18                      SENATOR SKELOS:  That would be at

       19        the discretion of the employer.

       20                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Okay.  Again

       21        through you, Mr. President.  Is there any kind
of

       22        hearing or any due process for the employee if
it

       23        comes back positive?

       24                      SENATOR SKELOS:  It would be a

       25        decision that an employer would make as to







                                                            3566

        1        whether they felt that person would be suitable

        2        for the position.

        3                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Okay.  Again

        4        through you, Mr. President.  One of the other

        5        issues that's raised by the nursing home
industry

        6        in their memo is the question of grandfathering.

        7        How does this bill deal with the concept of

        8        grandfathering, the hundreds of thousands of

        9        employees who are currently working in nursing

       10        homes?

       11                      SENATOR SKELOS:  This would cover

       12        prospective employees, but remember, there is

       13        such a turnover in this industry, that in a
short

       14        period of time -- I can't give you the exact

       15        period of time, probably a few years -- you
would

       16        have -- most people would be screened or have a

       17        criminal background check on them because there

       18        is a constant turnover in this industry.

       19                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Okay.  One

       20        other question, again through you, Mr.
President.

       21                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

       22        Skelos, do you continue to yield?

       23                      SENATOR SKELOS:  Yes.

       24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

       25        Senator yields.







                                                            3567

        1                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Many of the

        2        home health agencies and other agencies that use

        3        nurses aides of this type have a cap on their

        4        administrative expenses under the Medicaid

        5        system.  Does this bill in any way affect that

        6        cap so that the additional administrative cost.

        7        it's going to take some additional time and

        8        effort to run people through the system.  Is

        9        there any increase in the cap so that nursing

       10        homes would get greater reimbursement from the

       11        Medicaid -

       12                      SENATOR SKELOS:  This would be.

       13        this cost would be picked up by the state.

       14                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Picked up by

       15        the state.  Do you know what that cost will be?

       16                      SENATOR SKELOS:  My estimate is

       17        that it would cost the state. remember, part of

       18        it would be paid by the federal government.  For

       19        those who are medicate eligible, it would be

       20        somewhere from 3- to $5 million.

       21                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Okay.  Mr.

       22        President -

       23                      SENATOR SKELOS:  And effective

       24        April 1st of 1999 so that it could be part of
the

       25        fiscal plan for next year.







                                                            3568

        1                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Okay.  Thank

        2        you to the sponsor.

        3                      On the bill, Mr. President.

        4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

        5        Dollinger on the bill.

        6                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  I'm going to

        7        support this bill.  As Senator Skelos knows, the

        8        Attorney General has. this is, I believe one of

        9        his program bills or a bill that he has had a

       10        role in.

       11                      He has been involved, as many

       12        people in the Rochester community have, with

       13        respect to a comatosed patient in one of the

       14        nursing homes who was raped -- tragically raped

       15        by a nurse's aide and he had a very substantial

       16        prior criminal history which was undisclosed and

       17        unknown at the time he was hired.

       18                      We clearly live in a society in

       19        which the secrecy of people's pasts are being

       20        invaded all the time.  To some extent we all
give

       21        up a little bit of our privacy when we do all

       22        kinds of things, whether it's run for office or

       23        become involved in jobs that require a certain

       24        sensitivity.

       25                      This bill chips away at one of







                                                            3569

        1        those privacy rights but it seems to me it does

        2        so for the right reason and that is to simply
say

        3        that we won't allow someone with a secret

        4        criminal past to be attending to those who are

        5        infirm and elderly and to that extent we are

        6        performing, I think, the most important duty we

        7        can, which is to protect people who come into

        8        unusual situations where they need the
protection

        9        of government and they need the protection of

       10        others in order to be able to live.

       11                      So I'm going to vote in favor of

       12        this bill.  I think there are a couple of

       13        technical issues that could probably be cleaned

       14        up with respect to the grandfathering and some

       15        other things because I think there are a large

       16        number of people out there, but I certainly
think

       17        this is a good bill to move the process along.

       18        My hope is that the Assembly will produce one
and

       19        either through Conference Committee or

       20        negotiation we'll get to the bill that achieves

       21        the laudable goal of this one.

       22                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       23        last section.

       24                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 6.  This

       25        act shall take effect on the first day of April.







                                                            3570

        1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

        2        roll.

        3                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

        4                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 55.

        5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

        6        is passed.

        7                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

        8        634, by Senator Cook, Senate Print 6278, an act

        9        to amend the Town Law, in relation to the

       10        settlement of claims by certain towns.

       11                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Explanation,

       12        please.

       13                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

       14        Cook, an explanation has been requested of

       15        Calendar 634.

       16                      SENATOR COOK:  Mr. President, this

       17        bill removes a requirement that is currently in

       18        the law.  When the town board agrees with a
claim

       19        that's made against the town or the claim is

       20        compromised and the town board is prepared to
pay

       21        a certain amount of money, under the present
law,

       22        they still have to go to Supreme Court and have

       23        the judge actually sign an order ordering the

       24        town to make the payment.

       25                      This bill simply says that if







                                                            3571

        1        everyone is agreed on the amount of the

        2        settlement and the town board then in due course

        3        passes a resolution to pay it, that they don't

        4        have to go to court.

        5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

        6        Dollinger.

        7                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Just a couple

        8        quick questions for the sponsor, if I may.  Does

        9        this apply to tax tertiary cases as well?

       10                      SENATOR COOK:  No.  This does not

       11        apply to tax tertiary.

       12                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Just where. so

       13        I understand that, Senator Cook, could you tell

       14        me where in the bill that's the case?

       15                      SENATOR COOK:  I beg your pardon?

       16                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Just tell me

       17        where in the bill that specified or is it not -

       18                      SENATOR COOK:  Well, it is

       19        specified except that the section that we're

       20        amending, which is Subdivision 4 of Section 68
of

       21        the Town Law, relates to claims against the

       22        town.  The tertiary proceedings are, I believe
in

       23        the Real Property Tax Law.

       24                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Again through

       25        you, Mr. President.







                                                            3572

        1                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

        2        Cook, do you continue to yield?

        3                      SENATOR COOK:  Yes.

        4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

        5        Senator yields.

        6                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  If there's a

        7        current limitation of any claim above $300 they

        8        must go to Supreme Court.

        9                      SENATOR COOK:  Yes.

       10                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Would it make

       11        better sense to increase that claim to a
sizeable

       12        number but not remove it entirely?  The reason

       13        for my question is obviously this provision was

       14        put in there to allow some independent review of

       15        a town's ability to resolve a piece of
litigation

       16        which, as I'm sure you would acknowledge, could

       17        in some cases involve people that the town

       18        fathers and mothers are very familiar with, the

       19        possible. the possibility of insider dealing in

       20        these cases, all of which could come out in the

       21        wash in the political process, but nonetheless

       22        this was put in to require, much as we do with

       23        infants, the approval of a court before large

       24        sums of money, public money are paid in these

       25        kinds of settlements.







                                                            3573

        1                      And my question is rather than

        2        eliminate it entirely, what if we just upped the

        3        amount and allowed smaller cases to be resolved?

        4                      SENATOR COOK:  Mr. President, as a

        5        matter of fact, Senator, we did discuss that

        6        option.  We talked about what kind of number was

        7        logical.  In all candor, we couldn't really
think

        8        of any number that was logical, recognizing that

        9        if you're talking about a substantial liability

       10        problem, you're probably involving an insurance

       11        company in some nature, so you're not going to

       12        get huge amounts of money.  The town is going to

       13        be paying that directly out of tax revenues and

       14        it just seemed that there wasn't any sense in

       15        having that independent review it, and frankly,

       16        Senator, if you were to petition the court, the

       17        court is going to see the paper is presented by

       18        the town, which are going to present. which are

       19        going to contain the very information that the

       20        town board would utilize in agreeing to the

       21        settlement in the first instance.  So it's. it

       22        didn't seem that there was any purpose in

       23        maintaining this process.

       24                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Through you,

       25        Mr. President.  Just one other question.  The.







                                                            3574

        1        there's nothing in this bill that changes the

        2        provisions of the Open Meetings Law with respect

        3        to discussion of litigation in public.

        4                      SENATOR COOK:  No.

        5                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  Okay.  On the

        6        bill, Mr. President.

        7                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

        8        Dollinger on the bill.

        9                      SENATOR DOLLINGER:  I appreciate

       10        the sponsor's explanation, but I'm going to vote

       11        against this bill.  I think that at least in

       12        instances where small towns are negotiating the

       13        settlement of claims, we currently set up under

       14        our Open Meetings Law a provision that says you

       15        don't have to talk about litigation in public.

       16        So you can discuss the settlement of a case

       17        entirely in private.  It can be done in an

       18        executive session.  It doesn't have to be done
in

       19        open session and it seems to me that the intent

       20        of this provision was to simply say in certain

       21        instances. and I know it's back in 1959, Senator

       22        Cook, I would be the first to admit that $300 is

       23        a preposterously low number, but it seems to me

       24        there is some number beyond which a town under

       25        200,000 people should not be able to discuss the







                                                            3575

        1        settlement of the claim in private.  It may

        2        involve people that the elected officials in the

        3        town know very well, the possibility of internal

        4        dealing, the possibility of behind closed doors

        5        discussion, outside public surveillance.  The

        6        potential is there that this could be abused,
and

        7        I would suggest that if this bill said we'll
jump

        8        it from $300 to $15,000 or $10,000, I know it

        9        doesn't eliminate the possibility of small

       10        influence peddling which could also occur
because

       11        of the notion that they don't need Supreme Court

       12        approval, but it seems to me that the beneficial

       13        purpose of this legislation would be best served

       14        by jumping the amount from 300 to some other

       15        number to allow small claims to be settled

       16        without Supreme Court approval, but to require

       17        that a town which negotiates a deal with a third

       18        party behind closed doors has some obligation to

       19        go convince a state Supreme Court judge that
it's

       20        in the best interests of the people.

       21                      My guess is, Senator Cook, that

       22        seldom, if ever, has any Supreme Court judge

       23        substituted his judgment for the judgment of the

       24        town fathers in settling a case, but I do
believe

       25        that because it's done behind closed doors under







                                                            3576

        1        the public. the Open Meetings Law, that there's
a

        2        potential there that we should avoid.

        3                      If this bill has some increased

        4        limitation, I'll vote for it, but to cast it
away

        5        completely, I think creates a possibility, a

        6        potential for misdealing, and I would rather

        7        avoid that potential, that temptation for local

        8        governments.

        9                      So I'll be voting in the negative.

       10                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

       11        last section.

       12                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This

       13        act shall take effect immediately.

       14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       15        roll.

       16                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       17                      THE SECRETARY:  Ayes 56, nays 1,

       18        Senator Dollinger recorded in the negative.

       19                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

       20        Paterson.

       21                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Mr.

       22        President.

       23                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  First,

       24        Senator Paterson, excuse me.  Just let me know

       25        for the record the bill is passed.







                                                            3577

        1                      Senator Paterson.

        2                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Thank you, Mr.

        3        President.

        4                      If we might pause in our

        5        deliberations for just a moment, I would just

        6        like to tell the members here that when I was a

        7        little kid I used to watch television and watch

        8        people debating political points of view, and I

        9        suffered from the delusion that some of us here

       10        continue that our point of view is always right

       11        and have that dogmatic view that anyone else
that

       12        had another point of view was just wrong or

       13        didn't know what they were talking about or was

       14        insensitive to some point of view.

       15                      I watched a mayoral campaign in

       16        the city of New York in which the Republican and

       17        the Conservative candidate, who was John Marchi,

       18        taught me something about civility and taught me

       19        something about a sophistication that I had
never

       20        seen before and so, as a young person, he was

       21        kind of a hero to me, and so on this, the

       22        occasion of his birthday, actually his 77th

       23        birthday of which he spent, unfortunately, 44 of

       24        those years here in this chamber but somehow has

       25        managed to persevere through all of this, that
we







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        1        call the Legislature.

        2                      I would like to recognize his

        3        birthday, and we have a gift that we would like

        4        to give Senator Marchi in celebration of his
77th

        5        birthday and we are bringing it to him right

        6        now.

        7                      (Applause.)

        8                      SENATOR PATERSON:   And the only

        9        other thing I would want to add, Mr. President,

       10        is the greatest thrill for me is that I share

       11        this birthday with him, so that's how I knew

       12        that.

       13                      (Laughter.)

       14                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

       15        Marchi.

       16                      SENATOR MARCHI:  I would like to

       17        take the pleasure of reciprocating the
sentiments

       18        expressed by Senator Paterson.

       19                      His father was a colleague of

       20        mine, and I have great respect and great

       21        affection for him, the same affection that I
have

       22        for every member of this chamber.

       23                      The years I've had. I don't know

       24        how many I have left but believe me, I am very,

       25        very happy with my life and the fact that I
spent







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        1        it with people that I have the deepest respect.

        2                      On a short list of three, I don't

        3        think that -- very few people would disagree
with

        4        me that Senator Paterson. and not because he

        5        married a girl from Staten Island. certainly

        6        commands a very deep respect for the civility

        7        with which he conducts himself, with the

        8        intelligence that he conducts himself, and his

        9        erudition and literary command, which is
evidence

       10        in my mind of extraordinary embrace of things

       11        that improve the quality of life and he

       12        exhibited. exhibits it every time he gets up,
not

       13        impairing his effectiveness in any way, and
often

       14        we disagree but even in that disagreement we

       15        always maintain that deepest respect for Senator

       16        Paterson.  He is just a wonderful legislator,
and

       17        I'm most happy and delighted that we. well, he

       18        doesn't share my actual birth date.  He's a
young

       19        man.  His. he's got a lot of road to travel and
I

       20        wish him well as he travels in it, but I.

       21        certainly it's a festive occasion for both of
us,

       22        and I want to thank again each and every one of

       23        you for. well, for a very warm. I wish for
myself

       24        that I could go on enjoying your companionship
as

       25        long as the good Lord allows it, and the voting







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        1        public, but I'm ahead now even if I weren't
going

        2        to have another day after this.  I feel I'm so

        3        far ahead that I have to be very grateful.

        4                      Thank you much and thank you all.

        5                      Thank you very much, Mr.

        6        President.

        7                      (Applause.)

        8                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  On behalf

        9        the entire body, we wish both Senator Paterson

       10        and Senator Marchi happy birthday.

       11                      Senator Marchi, your constituents,

       12        your people and the entire people of the state

       13        have benefitted from your service and will

       14        benefit for many years to come.

       15                      And Senator Paterson, you're not

       16        too bad yourself.

       17                      The Secretary will continue to

       18        read the calendar.

       19                      THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number

       20        827, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 888, an act

       21        to amend the Penal Law, in relation to resisting

       22        arrest.

       23                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Explanation.

       24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

       25        Volker, an explanation has been requested of







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        1        Calendar 827.

        2                      SENATOR VOLKER:  Mr. President,

        3        now that we've got away with the pleasantries,

        4        now we can get into the time when Senator

        5        Paterson was wrong -- no, no.

        6                      (Laughter.)

        7                      This is a bill that has been

        8        debated in this house a number of occasions.  In

        9        fact, last year it passed this house by a vote
of

       10        47 to 12.

       11                      This bill specifically. and

       12        earlier this year we passed a bill, if my

       13        recollection is correct, upgrading assault in

       14        general.  There are many of us who, frankly,

       15        believe that assault probably is the area of the

       16        law that needs upgrading virtually more than any

       17        other area and because it seems to some of us

       18        that many of the so-called bias crimes, for

       19        instance, and other areas of the law, the

       20        striking, and so forth, that occur, relate in

       21        part to the fact that unfortunately personal

       22        assaults on people has tended to be looked on

       23        rather lowly in the courts.

       24                      Nowhere is this more evident, I

       25        don't think, than assaults on police officers.







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        1        It's no secret to law enforcement people across

        2        this state that you have to be seriously injured

        3        before a court will essentially sentence anyone

        4        to any kind of a serious prison term or consider

        5        the actions of someone as serious enough to

        6        warrant someone to get a jail term.

        7                      In fact, more than once. and it

        8        frankly dates back to a long time. the attitude

        9        that, well, it's part of the business of being a

       10        police officer, you get assaulted.  I think

       11        that's really pretty ridiculous and, in fact,
the

       12        last time we debated this bill, Senator Leichter

       13        asked a question of me if there's any
indications

       14        that there has been an increase of assault on
law

       15        enforcement people, and we've done some studies

       16        on that and looked at some intelligent reports.

       17        intelligence reports and they are very alarming.

       18                      For instance, a recent report says

       19        that last year 160 police officers were killed
in

       20        the United States, a 40 percent increase over

       21        1996, and that firearms-related deaths were up
25

       22        percent, traffic-related fatalities were up 50

       23        percent, some of which were deliberate, by the

       24        way, as people deliberately drove into police

       25        officers, and it talks. it goes on to talk about







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        1        an ominous sign being that a number of police

        2        officers were specifically targeted simply

        3        because they had the badge.

        4                      What this bill does is basically

        5        set two different types of resisting arrest. 
The

        6        number one penalty, which would make it a Class
E

        7        felony, would say that a person is guilty of

        8        resisting arrest in the first degree when he

        9        commits the crime of resisting arrest; in the

       10        second degree, by striking, shoving, pushing,

       11        kicking or otherwise using physical force.  What

       12        it really is is the use of physical force -

       13        sorry about that -- the use of physical force -

       14        I didn't do that deliberately.  It
differentiates

       15        the resisting arrest from the so-called passive

       16        resisting arrest which is the traditional Class
A

       17        misdemeanor that resisting arrest is considered

       18        today.

       19                      So what we're doing here, we're

       20        differentiating between using physical force and

       21        the passive nature of resisting arrest and
making

       22        it a Class E felony.  A Class E felony is the

       23        lowest felony there is, by the way.  Some of us

       24        say that in the city of New York, Class E

       25        felonies are almost like Class B misdemeanors







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        1        used to be because very often, unless you get a

        2        Class E, very little, if any, of those charges

        3        are ever maintained because they're usually pled

        4        out to lesser charges.  You start out with a

        5        Class A misdemeanor, there's hardly any place to

        6        go below that because the person, effectively,

        7        never goes to jail.

        8                      So what we're doing here is

        9        differentiating between physical force and the

       10        passive nature of resisting arrest.

       11                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

       12        Paterson.

       13                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Thank you, Mr.

       14        President.

       15                      If Senator Volker would yield for

       16        a question.

       17                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

       18        Volker, do you yield?

       19                      SENATOR VOLKER:  Certainly.

       20                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The

       21        Senator yields.

       22                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Senator, we

       23        just had a bill a moment ago that we -- almost

       24        all of us, I believe, supported by Senator
Skelos

       25        that definitely impinges upon the ability of







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        1        health care workers to get jobs based on whether

        2        or not they are convicted of a felony.

        3                      So what I would advise is when we

        4        go from a Class A misdemeanor to a felony, we
are

        5        -- even though it's an E felony, we are really

        6        changing the options that many people may have,

        7        and what you described, I thought very

        8        articulately and very compellingly, were the

        9        increases of assaults on police officers for

       10        which I think we probably should increase the

       11        penalties and when that legislation comes to
this

       12        floor, I assure you that I will vote for it, but

       13        here we're talking about resisting arrest, where

       14        many times the individual that's resisting
arrest

       15        is under some duress.  Often you have a
situation

       16        -- maybe two individuals are fighting, the

       17        police officer comes in to try to make the

       18        arrest, the person is still swinging.  They
don't

       19        even realize they're swinging at a police
officer

       20        now.  It's an emotional period.

       21                      There are a lot of instances where

       22        I would certainly put forth that a person could

       23        be charged with this crime and at the same time

       24        really not have made the decision to make the -

       25        to cause the police officer any harm and this







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        1        doesn't -- this does not in any way allow us to

        2        in any way forgive the individual for what they

        3        did.  They certainly are culpable, but they are

        4        not culpable, I would say, in a fashion as it

        5        would be if they just assaulted the police

        6        officer.

        7                      So what I'm saying is I think that

        8        while we have resisting arrest as a charge,

        9        resisting arrest is often what I call the "pile

       10        on" charge.  It's disorderly conduct and

       11        resisting arrest.  It goes along with anyone
else

       12        that the person is being arrested for, and I
just

       13        think we have to take a look at this, and I'm

       14        wondering if you would just comment on what I

       15        said.  I think we have to take a look at this

       16        because I just don't want to see people who

       17        really did not intend any kind of harm and did

       18        not make the actual decision to harm the police

       19        officer but who may just have needed to calm
down

       20        and the officer was interfered with in trying to

       21        make the arrest.  There, the resisting arrest

       22        charge might be important but to now upgrade it

       23        to a felony, I think would take a very willful

       24        and deliberate act.

       25                      SENATOR VOLKER:  Senator, what you







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        1        have stated is -- I understand what you have

        2        said.  You have stated a factual situation, and

        3        when we do cases and when we look at cases

        4        involving -- let's use the example of assault,

        5        and you have said that the person didn't intend

        6        to strike or to hit, or whatever, the police

        7        officer, that's the factual situation, then

        8        obviously you can't maintain a resisting arrest

        9        for striking, and so forth, a law enforcement

       10        officer.  We understand that and if that's the

       11        case, then that's something certainly that as a

       12        factual -- in the factual nature of things,

       13        should occur and that person should not be

       14        convicted of resisting arrest in the first

       15        degree.

       16                      And remember, that the courts have

       17        always looked at these types of charges very,

       18        very closely, and as well as they should, in

       19        dealing with them, and I think what you're
saying

       20        to me, Senator, is -- and I know how -- what

       21        you're thinking about, but I must tell you that

       22        you cannot shirk from making -- it seems to me,

       23        that you should not shirk from making changes in

       24        the law that deal with the realities of our

       25        society and with the protection of individuals







                                                            3588

        1        who need to be protected simply because there

        2        could be a factual situation that might make it

        3        more difficult necessarily to prove otherwise.

        4                      It seems to me that we have some

        5        serious problems involving abuse of police

        6        officers and abuse -- not just police officers

        7        but law enforcement people, and we also have a

        8        society that has tended to look at these
charges,

        9        frankly, from a somewhat jaded point of view;

       10        that is, that this is all part of the job, and
it

       11        seems to me that under these circumstances, in

       12        particular, it behooves us to give the authority

       13        under certain circumstances to charge a higher

       14        violation, which would be a Class E felony
rather

       15        than a Class A misdemeanor the way it is now.

       16                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

       17        Paterson.

       18                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Mr. President,

       19        on the bill.

       20                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Senator

       21        Paterson on the bill.

       22                      SENATOR PATERSON:  Senator

       23        Montgomery wanted ti lead debate on this bill.

       24        She's out of the chamber at this time, and I did

       25        my best to try to bring forth what Senator







                                                            3589

        1        Montgomery's point is, which is that we really

        2        would not like to see resisting arrest be a

        3        felony.

        4                      Now, society does have a jaded

        5        view about people fighting with police officers,

        6        almost as if Senator Volker described as part of

        7        the job, and our solution to that is to upgrade

        8        the penalties for assault and at a point when

        9        someone is that deliberate in their acts of

       10        assaulting a police officer, I don't think that

       11        should even be considered resisting arrest

       12        anymore.  I think that should be a straight out

       13        attack on the police officer, and I would be

       14        perfectly happy to see everyone who commits that

       15        crime charged with that crime.

       16                      Resisting arrest was more of an

       17        issue where just the definition, "resisting

       18        arrest", demonstrates a less violent kind of

       19        action, something where the individual is just

       20        pushing and shoving and trying to get away from

       21        the police officers and not something that I

       22        think should graduate to this particular level.

       23                      I'm not saying that anyone that

       24        assaults a police officer should be punished any

       25        less than Senator Volker is saying.  We're just







                                                            3590

        1        disagreeing on the terminology.  I would like

        2        that to go into the category of assault on a

        3        police officer.

        4                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Read the

        5        last section.

        6                      THE SECRETARY:  Section 3.  This

        7        act shall take effect on the first day of

        8        November.

        9                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  Call the

       10        roll.

       11                      (The Secretary called the roll.)

       12                      THE SECRETARY:  Those recorded in

       13        the negative on Calendar Number 827 are Senators

       14        Connor, Mendez, Paterson, Rosado, Santiago and

       15        Smith.  Ayes 52, nays 6.

       16                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  The bill

       17        is passed.

       18                      Senator Fuschillo, that completes

       19        the reading of the controversial calendar.

       20                      SENATOR FUSCHILLO:  Thank you, Mr.

       21        President.

       22                      Is there any housekeeping at the

       23        desk?

       24                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  There is

       25        no housekeeping.







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        1                      SENATOR FUSCHILLO:  There being no

        2        further business, I move we adjourn until

        3        Tuesday, May 26th, at 3:00 p.m., intervening
days

        4        being legislative days.

        5                      ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:  On

        6        motion, the Senate stands adjourned until

        7        Tuesday, May 26th, at 3:00 p.m.  Intervening
days

        8        will be legislative days.

        9                      (Whereupon, at 11:59 a.m., the

       10        Senate adjourned.)

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