Regular Session - May 9, 2000

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                           NEW YORK STATE SENATE





                          THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD









                             ALBANY, NEW YORK

                                May 9, 2000

                                 3:10 p.m.





                              REGULAR SESSION







                 LT. GOVERNOR MARY O. DONOHUE, President

                 STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

















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                           P R O C E E D I N G S

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Senate will

                 come to order.

                            I ask everyone present to please

                 rise and repeat with me the Pledge of

                 Allegiance.

                            (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

                 the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    With us today to

                 give the invocation is the Reverend Claude A.

                 Knight, from Vanderbilt Avenue Moravian

                 Church, in Staten Island.

                            REVEREND KNIGHT:    Let us pray.

                            O God, in whom we live and move and

                 have our being, we thank You for these United

                 States of America, a land that so many of us

                 call our home.  We are grateful for the daily

                 freedoms that we experience -- the freedom of

                 movement, of free speech, the freedom to

                 practice our religion without fear.  We

                 remember our forefathers who wrote the

                 Constitution by which we are governed.

                            We acknowledge, Dear Lord, that we

                 have inherited a freedom for which we did not

                 give our lives, and that today we are rich in





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                 liberty because others before us have formed a

                 government of the people, by the people, and

                 for the people.

                            And now as Your servants, our

                 Senators, gather to exercise the duties for

                 which they were duly elected, we pray that You

                 will give to each of them wisdom and courage

                 so that they will serve with integrity and

                 with honesty, and enable them to interpret and

                 enact laws that will seem fair and just for

                 all of us within this state.

                            May a spirit of tolerance, of

                 mutual respect and peace, abide within these

                 walls.

                            These mercies we ask in the name of

                 Him who is all wise, all powerful, and yet all

                 merciful.

                            Amen.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Reading of the

                 Journal.

                            THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

                 Monday, May 8th, the Senate met pursuant to

                 adjournment.  The Journal of Friday, May 5th,

                 was read and approved.  On motion, Senate

                 adjourned.





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                            THE PRESIDENT:    Without

                 objection, the Journal stands approved as

                 read.

                            Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

                 can I ask for an immediate meeting of the

                 Finance Committee in Room 332.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There will be an

                 immediate meeting of the Finance Committee in

                 Room 332.

                            Presentation of petitions.

                            Messages from the Assembly.

                            Messages from the Governor.

                            Reports of standing committees.

                            Reports of select committees.

                            Communications and reports from

                 state officers.

                            Motions and resolutions.

                            Senator Farley.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            On behalf of Senator Bonacic,

                 please remove the sponsor star on Calendar

                 Number 157.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    So ordered.





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                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Thank you.

                            On behalf of Senator Goodman, Madam

                 President, at page 43 I offer the following

                 amendments to Calendar 814, Senate Print 662,

                 and I ask that that bill retain its place on

                 the Third Reading Calendar.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received, and the bill will retain its

                 place on the Third Reading Calendar.

                            Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

                 can we at this time adopt the Resolution

                 Calendar, with the exception of Resolution

                 4015, Resolution 4016, of 4038 and 4086.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    All in favor of

                 accepting the Resolution Calendar with the

                 exception of Resolutions 4015, 4016, 4038, and

                 4086, signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Resolution

                 Calendar is adopted.

                            Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,





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                 can we at this time take up Resolution 4086 -

                 I'm sorry, 4038, by Senator Maziarz, ask that

                 it be read in its entirety, and move for its

                 immediate adoption.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 Maziarz, Legislative Resolution Number 4038,

                 memorializing Governor George E. Pataki to

                 proclaim May 2000 as "Senior Citizen Month" in

                 New York State as well as May 9, 2000, as

                 "Senior Citizen Day" in the State of New York.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The question is

                 on the -- the Secretary will continue to read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    "WHEREAS, The

                 more than 3 million residents of New York

                 State 60 years of age and older are vital,

                 integral and contributing members of our

                 society; and

                            "WHEREAS, The more than 3 million

                 senior citizens residing in the State of New

                 York have contributed to the commonwealth of

                 the State by building and helping preserve the

                 customs, traditions and ideals of the many

                 ethnic groups that make up the mosaic of New





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                 York State; and

                            "WHEREAS, The wisdom and experience

                 of senior citizens constantly enrich the lives

                 of the young people of our State through a

                 strong tradition of volunteerism; and

                            "WHEREAS, Since 1962, the month of

                 May has been declared, by Presidential

                 proclamation, 'Older Americans Month,' in

                 order for communities around the nation to set

                 aside time to celebrate and reflect on the

                 unique role older Americans play in the fabric

                 of our society; and

                            "WHEREAS, The legislative and

                 executive branches of New York State

                 government have as a primary goal the

                 improvement of the quality of life of older

                 New Yorkers and the assurance of their

                 continued dignity; now, therefore, be it

                            "RESOLVED, That this Legislative

                 Body pause in its deliberations to memorialize

                 Governor George E. Pataki to proclaim May 2000

                 as 'Senior Citizen Month' in New York State as

                 well as May 9, 2000, as 'Senior Citizen Day'

                 in the State of New York; and be it further

                            "RESOLVED, That all the residents





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                 of New York State are urged to honor all

                 senior citizens, who are a cornerstone of the

                 strength of our nation and to whom a debt of

                 gratitude is owed; and it be further

                            "RESOLVED, That a copy of this

                 resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted

                 to the Honorable George E. Pataki, Governor of

                 the State of New York."

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The question is

                 on the resolution.  All in favor signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The resolution is

                 adopted.

                            Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

                 can we open the resolution for cosponsorship.

                 And any member in the chamber that would not

                 want to be on it, please notify the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Any member who

                 does not wish to be included on the resolution

                 that was just passed, please notify the desk.

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                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

                 can we at this time take up the privileged

                 resolution 4015, by Senator Marcellino, ask

                 that it be read in its entirety, and move for

                 its immediate adoption.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 Marcellino, Legislative Resolution Number

                 4015, honoring Frances D'Angelo upon the

                 occasion of her designation as recipient of

                 the 2000 "Outstanding Contribution by a Senior

                 Citizen" Award by the Nassau County Department

                 of Senior Citizen Affairs.

                            "WHEREAS, Senior citizens bring a

                 wealth of experience and knowledge to the

                 increasingly active roles they play in today's

                 society.  Their past contributions and future

                 participation are a vital part of and valuable

                 asset to the fabric of community life and

                 activity; and

                            "WHEREAS, Attendant to such concern

                 and fully in accord with its longstanding

                 traditions, it is the intent of this

                 Legislative Body to honor Frances D'Angelo





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                 upon the occasion of her designation as

                 recipient of the 2000 'Outstanding

                 Contribution by a Senior Citizen' Award by the

                 Nassau County Department of Senior Citizen

                 Affairs; and

                            "WHEREAS, during her illustrious

                 career as an educator for 50 years, Frances

                 D'Angelo served in many roles, including

                 teacher, principal and supervising professor

                 of student teachers at St. John's University.

                            "A faithful community worker,

                 Frances D'Angelo is dedicated to making life

                 easier for those who are in need, and she has

                 enriched their lives with her love and

                 compassion.

                            "Frances D'Angelo's volunteer work

                 extends throughout the past 40 years.  She is

                 absolutely and unequivocally the epitome of

                 volunteerism in action.  At the local level,

                 she is a member of the Elks Lodge 1458, Ladies

                 Auxiliary; the Glen Cove Historical Society;

                 the Women's Club/Glen Cove and the League of

                 Volunteers for Elderly (LOVE).  She also

                 cofounded the AARP Chapter 3407 and heads the

                 Glen Cove Scholarship Board; and





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                            "WHEREAS, At the county level

                 Frances D'Angelo is involved with the Lioness

                 Club Lodges of Nassau/Suffolk County, as well

                 as the Nassau County Federation of Women's

                 Clubs.

                            "In addition, Frances D'Angelo is

                 active in the Grand Lodge Order Sons of Italy,

                 the New York State Congress of Parents and

                 Teachers, the New York State Civil Defense

                 Commission, the National Foundation March of

                 Dimes and the Statue of Liberty Foundation.

                            "When Frances D'Angelo joins an

                 organization, she participates fully.  She not

                 only joins a club, she takes a very active

                 role in ensuring that its goals are realized.

                 Through her perseverance, selflessness,

                 integrity and leadership, she has touched many

                 lives and has made an immeasurable difference.

                            "Throughout her impressive lifetime

                 and distinguished career, Frances D'Angelo, a

                 very active, energetic and industrious woman,

                 has inspired and enriched the lives of her

                 family, friends and colleagues through her

                 love and respect for others, and the wisdom

                 which comes from many years of experiencing





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                 life to its fullest; and

                            "WHEREAS, It is the sense of this

                 Legislative Body that those who enhance the

                 well-being and vitality of their community and

                 have shown a long and sustained commitment to

                 excellence certainly deserve to be recognized

                 and applauded by all the citizens of the great

                 State of New York; now, therefore, be it

                            "RESOLVED, That this Legislative

                 Body pause in its deliberations to honor

                 Frances D'Angelo upon the occasion of her

                 designation as recipient of the 2000

                 'Outstanding Contribution by a Senior Citizen'

                 Award by the Nassau County Department of

                 Senior Citizen Affairs; and be it further

                            "RESOLVED, That a copy of this

                 resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted

                 to Frances D'Angelo."

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Maziarz.

                            SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Thank you very

                 much, Madam President.

                            Just briefly, by way of

                 explanation, Madam President.  Each year the

                 Senate Aging Committee and the Assembly Aging

                 Committee, ably chaired by my counterpart,





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                 Assemblywoman Barbara Clark, search the state

                 of New York through the various county Offices

                 of the Aging for nominations for Senior

                 Citizen of the Year and Outstanding

                 Contribution by a Senior Citizen.

                            I think this year we have a special

                 treat, in that our Senior Citizen of the Year

                 is actually two people, a husband and wife

                 team -- and our Outstanding Contribution by a

                 Senior Citizen, whose resolution was just

                 read.

                            I think that we have some excellent

                 examples who, even though they do a great deal

                 of good work, they are really only

                 representative of the 3.2 million senior

                 citizens that go out and volunteer and help

                 their fellow New Yorkers each and every day.

                            So for a little bit more detail on

                 our individual recipients, at this time, Madam

                 President, I'd like to yield to Senator

                 Marcellino.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator

                 Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.  I appreciate Senator





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                 Maziarz's yielding the floor to me.

                            And before I talk about our

                 recipient, I just would like to comment on the

                 rule that we have here in the chamber that we

                 do not acknowledge groups that are attending

                 from our districts, to maintain order and

                 discipline.

                            So on that basis, I will not today

                 acknowledge the group from South Woods Middle

                 School, Syosset, that is here with their

                 teacher, Claudine Locascio -- and that's Jared

                 Mogil, Jason Rosenfeld, and Eddie Grossmann.

                 And I certainly would not want to mention

                 their parents, Lauren Post, Joan Mogil, and

                 Elyse Rosenfeld.  And I thank them for coming

                 and appreciating the fact that I cannot

                 acknowledge your presence.

                            To get back to the point of our

                 resolution and the point of our meeting here

                 today, and that's Mrs. D'Angelo.  Frances is a

                 special person.  She has worked hard.  You

                 heard the resolution that was read.  I think

                 the amount of effort that this person has put

                 in, that this woman has done in her community

                 working for senior citizens -- working for





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                 everyone in the community, not just senior

                 citizens but people of all ages.  She's

                 tireless.

                            The only thing she hasn't done is

                 seek political office.  And I'm beginning to

                 worry because there's a rumor around that she

                 might be looking for a New York State Senate

                 seat.  I don't want to help the other side

                 over there.  But you never know.

                            She would be a formidable

                 candidate.  She's a tireless worker.  Her

                 efforts for the people of her community and

                 the people that she loves, her family, goes

                 without question.  She's a worker, she's

                 diligent, she does things, she's

                 well-respected within the community, she is

                 deserving of this particular award.

                            I cannot say enough about her.  And

                 we could go on and on, and I won't do that,

                 because I don't want to embarrass her.  Her

                 family would love it, but we'll give her a

                 printing.  And we're going to have a reception

                 down in the district for her, and we'll do

                 more to recognize this very, very special

                 person.





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                            But I could not let this pass, this

                 opportunity to speak on behalf of this

                 individual who I am very, very proud to

                 represent in the New York State Senate.

                            Frances, God bless you, and stay

                 with us for many, many years to come.  And

                 stay active.

                            Thank you, Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The question is

                 on the resolution.  All in favor signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The resolution is

                 adopted.

                            (Applause.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    As the President

                 of the Senate, on behalf of the Senate, I

                 would also like to acknowledge Ms. D'Angelo,

                 as well as the Palmeris, who I was with this

                 morning.

                            I had the privilege of speaking

                 with you both and presenting to you the

                 Governor's proclamation in honor of each of





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                 you as well as Senior Citizen's Day here in

                 New York State and Senior Citizen's Month.

                            Congratulations, and may you thrive

                 and contribute well into the new millennium.

                 Thank you.

                            Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

                 can we ask for an immediate meeting of the

                 Water Resources Committee in Room 332.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There will be an

                 immediate meeting of the Water Resources

                 Committee in Room 332.

                            Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    And, Madam

                 President, at this time can we take up the

                 privileged resolution at the desk, 4016, by

                 Senator Bonacic, ask that it be read in its

                 entirety, and move for its immediate adoption.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    All right.  The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 Bonacic, Legislative Resolution Number 4016,

                 commending Salvatore and Angela Palmeri upon

                 the occasion of their designation as the

                 recipients of the 2000 "New York Senior





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                 Citizens of the Year" Award.

                            "WHEREAS, Senior citizens bring

                 their special wisdom, experience and

                 enthusiasm to countless endeavors, helping to

                 shape and strengthen the character of the

                 communities of the State of New York and the

                 quality of our lives; and

                            "WHEREAS, It is the sense of this

                 assembled body to recognize and honor the

                 senior citizens of New York State for their

                 diverse talents and generous service on behalf

                 of others; and

                            "WHEREAS, In conjunction with the

                 celebration of 'Senior Citizen Day' in New

                 York State on May 9, 2000, this assembled body

                 takes great pleasure in honoring Salvatore and

                 Angela Palmeri as the 2000 'Senior Citizens of

                 the Year.'

                            "Salvatore and Angela Palmeri will

                 be honored with the 2000 New York 'Senior

                 Citizens of the Year' Award on Monday, May 29,

                 2000, at a reception to be held at Twin Lakes

                 in Hurley, New York.

                            "The 'Senior Citizens of the Year'

                 Award recognizes senior citizens who have





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                 tirelessly advocated on behalf of seniors and

                 have assisted in providing needed support

                 services and activities which enhance the

                 lives of senior citizens; and

                            "WHEREAS, Salvatore and Angela

                 Palmeri of New Paltz, New York, truly

                 exemplify these qualities.

                            "Salvatore and Angela Palmeri moved

                 to New Paltz in 1981 when he retired from his

                 business in Forest Hills.  They work

                 tirelessly as volunteers with St. Joseph's

                 Roman Catholic Church in New Paltz.  They are

                 involved in many of the outreach programs,

                 which include the Christmas Fair, community

                 dinners, and bingo games; and

                            "WHEREAS, Salvatore and Angela

                 Palmeri help the Community Service Committee

                 fill shopping bags with various items that are

                 distributed to residents of five area nursing

                 and adult homes.

                            "Salvatore and Angela Palmeri help

                 at bingo once a month at the Hudson Valley

                 Home, Cabrini on the Hudson, Culinary Home,

                 Moran's, and Valley Vista, in addition to

                 their parish.





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                            "As members of AARP Chapter 975,

                 Salvatore and Angela Palmeri are involved in

                 55/Mature Driving Refresher Courses, 80 and

                 Over Luncheons, purchasing supplies, Ways and

                 Means Committee, and many other chores that

                 need doing; and

                            "WHEREAS, Angela Palmeri teaches in

                 the School of Religion at St. Joseph's.  She

                 is the cook for one Community Dinner in June,

                 and during the Christmas holidays cooks dinner

                 for the young people at the Juvenile

                 Correction Facility.

                            "Salvatore Palmeri purchased a

                 computer and is learning to use it so they can

                 more accurately keep track of their many and

                 varied activities, which are too numerous to

                 mention.

                            "Salvatore and Angela Palmeri

                 coordinate a blood drive twice annually and

                 work with college students on their drive in

                 the fall.

                            "Salvatore and Angela Palmeri are

                 the proud parents of two children and two

                 grandchildren; and

                            "WHEREAS, Through all these





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                 endeavors Salvatore and Angela Palmeri have

                 demonstrated an unflagging commitment to the

                 improvement of the quality of life of our

                 state and nation's senior citizens and the

                 enhancement of human dignity; now, therefore,

                 be it

                            "RESOLVED, That this Legislative

                 Body pause in its deliberations to most

                 joyously recognize the significance of

                 Salvatore and Angela Palmeri's contributions

                 with its 2000 'Senior Citizens of the Year'

                 Award; and be it further

                            "RESOLVED, That a copy of this

                 resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted

                 to Mr. and Mrs. Salvatore Palmeri."

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Bonacic.

                            SENATOR BONACIC:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    You're welcome.

                            SENATOR BONACIC:    It gives me a

                 great honor and it's a privilege to introduce

                 these renowned citizens to our Senate chamber.

                            Let me tell you a little bit about

                 them.  Sal and Ann have been married 56 years.

                 They have two children.  Their daughter,





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                 Kathleen, is up here in the gallery.  And

                 their son, Joseph, is in Oregon and could not

                 be here today.  They have two beautiful

                 grandchildren.

                            And I was looking over the litany

                 of the things they have given to this

                 community.  And what is special about today is

                 that we usually pick one Citizen of the Year

                 for the State of New York.  Here we have a

                 married couple doing it together and honoring

                 them both.

                            And in addition to working for the

                 church, the nursing homes, and running blood

                 drives and doing so many things, there's one

                 story I'd like to tell you about.  The parish

                 priest of St. Joseph's asked this couple to

                 cook an Italian meal for 75 people.  Well, 400

                 people showed up.  They cooked 50 pounds of

                 ziti and I don't know how many meatballs, but

                 they did it in good taste and never batted an

                 eye.

                            I wonder where the energy comes

                 from when we get older and we're able to give

                 thousands of hours from our heart to our

                 community.  And I figured it out with this





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                 couple here.  They have such an abundant and

                 wonderful love that it spills over to the

                 community, and they give and they give and

                 they touch and enrich so many lives.

                            So we're here to pause to say thank

                 you for the things that you have done, and for

                 being such wonderful models, not only for

                 seniors but for all human beings.

                            I'm going to ask Sal and Ann to

                 stand up.  And at this time they brought a

                 couple of people in the gallery that I just

                 would like to stand up and acknowledge them

                 all at the same time.

                            Their daughter, Katherine.  Their

                 brother Dominic and his wife, Helen.  We have

                 Catherine Puglisi, who is director of the

                 Ulster County Office for the Aging; Alice

                 Tipp, our Ulster County legislator; and Joe

                 Sells, from the Ulster County community.

                            We thank you all.

                            (Applause.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    On behalf of the

                 Senate, I would also like to acknowledge the

                 guest in the gallery as well as the Palmeris,

                 who I know of in having been one of your





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                 Supreme Court justices in your district.  Your

                 recognition, your reputation for community

                 service certainly preceded your entrance in

                 the chambers today.

                            Congratulations.  Particularly a

                 husband and wife team, extremely impressive.

                 Congratulations.

                            Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

                 I would just like to, as we conclude

                 recognizing these outstanding people, I would

                 like to really answer Senator Bonacic when he

                 says where does the energy come from, where

                 does the vitality come from.

                            Well, Senator Bonacic and my

                 colleagues, let me tell you, people like this,

                 the energy comes from their heart, from their

                 minds, from all the good things that they

                 think about helping others.  They don't think

                 about themselves.  They think about helping

                 others.

                            And it's just a pleasure -- I met

                 them earlier today -- to just recognize them,

                 to see them, to be aware of how they live

                 their lives.  And what we have to be aware of





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                 truly is that they give not just of their

                 energy, but their time.  And time is something

                 that to all of us is very, very precious.

                            So to the three of you, to Fran and

                 to Angela and to Sal, I just wish you the very

                 best, and at least another 50 years of

                 dedicated service to your communities.  It's a

                 pleasure having you with us.

                            (Applause.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The question is

                 on the resolution.  All in favor signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The resolution is

                 adopted.

                            Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

                 can we at this time take up Resolution 4086,

                 by Senator Meier, ask that it be read in its

                 entirety, and move for its immediate adoption.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator Meier,





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                 Legislative Resolution Number 4086, honoring

                 the members of the armed forces and federal

                 civilian employees who served the nation

                 during the Vietnam era.

                            "WHEREAS, The United States Armed

                 Forces conducted military operations in

                 Southeast Asia during the period known as the

                 Vietnam era, from February 28, 1961, until

                 May 7, 1975; and

                            "WHEREAS, During the Vietnam era

                 more than 3,403,000 American military

                 personnel served in the Republic of Vietnam

                 and elsewhere in Southeast Asia in support of

                 United States military operations in Vietnam,

                 while millions more provided for the nation's

                 defense in other parts of the world; and

                            "WHEREAS, During the Vietnam era

                 untold numbers of civilian personnel of the

                 United States government also served in

                 support of United States operations in

                 Southeast Asia and elsewhere in the world; and

                            "WHEREAS, May 7, 2000, marks the

                 25th anniversary of the closing of the period

                 known as the Vietnam era; and

                            "WHEREAS, May 7, 2000, would be an





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                 appropriate occasion to recognize and express

                 appreciation for the individuals who served

                 the nation in Southeast Asia and elsewhere in

                 the world during the Vietnam era; now,

                 therefore, be it

                            "RESOLVED, That this Legislative

                 Body pause in its deliberations to honor the

                 members of the Armed Forces and federal

                 civilian employees who served the nation

                 during the Vietnam era and the families of

                 those individuals who lost their lives or

                 remain unaccounted for or were injured during

                 that era in Southeast Asia or elsewhere in the

                 world in defense of United States national

                 security interests; and be it further

                            "RESOLVED, That copies of this

                 resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted

                 to the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United

                 States Armed Forces."

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Meier.

                            SENATOR MEIER:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            Madam President, this resolution

                 commemorates the 25th anniversary of the end

                 of American involvement in the Republic of





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                 Vietnam.  This conflict was quite different

                 from any war that this country had ever been

                 involved in before, because it stirred on the

                 home front such deep and passionate debate.

                            And indeed, people of goodwill and

                 honorable people can differ over the policy

                 that put the men and women of this country in

                 the Republic of Vietnam.  And indeed, some

                 Vietnam veterans have different opinions about

                 that policy.

                            But this resolution is not about

                 policy or politics.  It is about honoring the

                 men and women of this country who left their

                 homes to serve in the Republic of Vietnam.  It

                 is about courage and devotion to country and

                 about devotion to one's friends and comrades,

                 for which Vietnam veterans to this day remain

                 known for, especially among all other

                 veterans.

                            It is about the obligation that we

                 as a country have, regardless of our political

                 differences, to stand behind those who serve

                 our country when they are committed and placed

                 in harm's way.  And it is indeed about our

                 continuing obligation to never forget those





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                 who have served.

                            Madam President, I'm particularly

                 pleased that we are joined here today in the

                 gallery by John Rowan, the president of the

                 New York State Council of Vietnam Veterans.

                 John, if you would please rise.

                            John, we extend to you and to all

                 your comrades who served this country so

                 bravely and gallantly our thanks and,

                 belatedly, our welcome home.  God bless.

                            Madam President, I'd like to open

                 the resolution to sponsorship, if I may.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

                 could we just add everyone's name to the

                 resolution unless they reach the desk and ask

                 not to.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Anyone who does

                 not want to be included on this resolution

                 should so notify the desk.

                            Senator Montgomery, why do you

                 rise?

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Madam

                 President, I just rise to thank Senator Meier

                 for this resolution.





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                            I have a brother who served in

                 Vietnam, and I would be more than happy -

                 certainly I thank you for opening it up to

                 allow us to put our names on.  And I would

                 love to have a copy of that resolution to

                 share with my brother, who is a Vietnam

                 veteran.

                            Thank you.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Larkin.

                            SENATOR LARKIN:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            As one who served in the armed

                 forces during that period and one who made a

                 trip across the pond, I think it's really

                 important that Senator Meier's resolution be

                 given the credibility that he has done here

                 today.

                            Many of us who served both in

                 Vietnam and in the States during the Vietnam

                 era remember what we went through.  Those of

                 us who served in the Pentagon in Washington

                 used to go to work in the morning in civilian

                 clothes because the administration did not

                 want a conflict between those in the armed

                 forces and those who were on the opposition to





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                 the war in Vietnam.

                            It was a disgrace, a total

                 disgrace, that we were ashamed to give honor

                 and support to those men and women who we, the

                 United States of America, sent to Vietnam.

                            I think it's very fitting that

                 there's two books that I would like to

                 recommend to anybody who wants to know about

                 the real story of Vietnam.  One is called

                 Dereliction of Duty, written by then Major

                 McMasters, United States Military Academy

                 Class of '84, and another one by Lieutenant

                 General Green, United States Marine Corps.

                 General Green was a captain in 1965 -

                 November the 5th, to be exact, when the

                 President of the United States laughed at

                 those of us who were on a task force to

                 Vietnam and said that we didn't know what we

                 were doing.

                            The task force at that time

                 recommended a full-blown effort in Vietnam of

                 over 400,000 to 500,000 troops, because the

                 task force recognized what was ahead of us was

                 not a little skirmish but it was a major

                 conflict that would take a heavy toll on the





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                 American troops.  It proved to be true.

                 58,000 Americans were killed in Vietnam.

                            And I personally believe that if

                 this country got behind the men and women of

                 the armed forces that we sent to Vietnam,

                 there would be less casualties and a peaceful

                 settlement a long time before.

                            To those of you in the gallery from

                 the Vietnam Association, I proudly salute you.

                 And thank God you're back with us.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The question is

                 on the resolution.  All in favor signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The resolution is

                 adopted.

                            Senator Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, there will be an immediate meeting

                 of the Consumer Protection Committee in the

                 Majority Conference Room, Room 332.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There will be an

                 immediate meeting of the Consumer Protection





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                 Committee in the Majority Conference Room,

                 Room 332.

                            Senator Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, there is a privileged resolution at

                 the desk by Senator Montgomery.  May we have

                 the title read and move for its adoption.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 Montgomery, Legislative Resolution Number

                 4021, commemorating the 100th anniversary of

                 Newman Memorial United Methodist Church of

                 Brooklyn, New York.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    On the

                 resolution, all in favor signify by saying

                 aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The resolution is

                 adopted.

                            Senator Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, may we now have the reading of the





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                 noncontroversial calendar.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator

                 Marcellino, we have substitutions at the desk.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, please make the substitutions.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you,

                 Senator.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    On page 5,

                 Senator DeFrancisco moves to discharge, from

                 the Committee on Civil Service and Pensions,

                 Assembly Bill Number 1937A and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 2574A,

                 First Report Calendar 905.

                            On page 6, Senator Farley moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Civil Service

                 and Pensions, Assembly Bill Number 9525 and

                 substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

                 Number 6334, First Report Calendar 914.

                            On page 7, Senator Marchi moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Agriculture,

                 Assembly Bill Number 3703 and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 2151,

                 First Report Calendar 925.

                            And on page 9, Senator Bonacic





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                 moves to discharge, from the Committee on

                 Local Government, Assembly Bill Number 6404A

                 and substitute it for the identical Senate

                 Bill Number 3793A, First Report Calendar 943.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

                 Substitutions ordered.

                            Senator Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    May we now

                 have the reading of the noncontroversial

                 calendar, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the noncontroversial

                 calendar.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 473, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 4413, an

                 act to amend the Public Authorities Law and

                 Chapter 774 of the Laws of 1950.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 13.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.





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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 501, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 1910A, an

                 act to amend the General Construction Law and

                 others, in relation to service in the armed

                 forces.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 14.  This

                 act shall take effect January 1, 2001.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 616, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 6934, an

                 act to amend the Education Law, in relation to

                 the authority of the Commissioner of

                 Education.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This





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                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 639, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 6445B,

                 an act to amend the Highway Law, in relation

                 to naming the POW-MIA Bridge in the Town of

                 Lyons, County of Wayne.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 642, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 393, an

                 act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to





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                 consecutive terms of imprisonment.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect -

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Lay it aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 660, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 1480B, an

                 act to amend the Executive Law and the Social

                 Services Law, in relation to making reports.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

                 act shall take effect January 1, 2001.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 672, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 6510, an

                 act to amend the General Municipal Law, in





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                 relation to capital reserve funds.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 704, by Senator Balboni, Senate Print 6853, an

                 act to authorize the assessor of the County of

                 Nassau to accept an application.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Mr.





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                 President, just to explain my vote on this

                 bill.

                            I'm going to vote against this bill

                 and the two that succeed it.  Here we are

                 again acting like this super tax

                 assessment/tax abatement board for New York

                 State.  Again, we have Nassau County ringing

                 in twice.

                            And I think the disease of allowing

                 the State Senate to act as this super board of

                 assessment review has now swept into

                 Westchester and the Bronx, because Senator

                 Velella has such a bill.

                            Let's put an end to this practice.

                 Let's pass Senator Hannon's bill, which would

                 allow the partial tax exemptions in instances

                 in which the purchaser of the property, which

                 is on the tax rolls as a tax property, buys it

                 midway through the tax year, let's allow them

                 to get a partial abatement.  I believe this

                 has gone through Local Government.

                            I would suggest only one other

                 thing for Senator Hannon's bill that might

                 take care of the assessors and the municipal

                 officials who don't like the bill:  put a





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                 both-ways clause in that says if the property

                 is tax-exempt and is bought by a taxpaying

                 entity midway through the year, the government

                 could then put taxable status on the property.

                            And in those instances in which

                 not-for-profit corporations or churches or

                 other types of charitable institutions sell

                 real property to profit-making entities, they

                 could then put it on the tax rolls effective

                 the date of transfer and grant a partial

                 taxable status for the date of purchase until

                 the end of the taxable year.

                            Put in a both-ways provision.  It

                 will solve all these problems and get us out

                 of this very uncomfortable and unfortunately

                 political position of acting like a super

                 board of assessment review.  We don't belong

                 there.  We give that power to local

                 government.

                            I would suggest, do the bill that

                 Senator Hannon has proposed, get it through

                 Local Government, bring it to the floor, pass

                 it and make it law.  It's the right thing to

                 do.

                            Until we do that, I'm going to





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                 continue to vote no, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger will be recorded in the negative.

                            Announce the results.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Dollinger recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 708, by Senator Velella, Senate Print 7053, an

                 act authorizing the City of New Rochelle to

                 accept an application.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Dollinger recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.





                                                          3181



                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 710, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 7215, an

                 act authorizing the assessor of the County of

                 Nassau to accept an application.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Dollinger recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 733, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print

                 4239, an act to amend Chapter 679 of the Laws

                 of 1992 authorizing the Commissioner of

                 General Services.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There is

                 a home rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This





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                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 752, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 7390, an

                 act to amend the Insurance Law, in relation to

                 extending certain provisions.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect July 1.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 791, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 7745, an

                 act authorizing the County of Nassau to accept

                 an application.





                                                          3183



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Dollinger recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 807, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 6429, an

                 act to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in

                 regulation to coordinate income eligibility

                 standards.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.





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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 848, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print -

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Lay it aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            Senator Marcellino, that completes

                 the reading of the noncontroversial calendar.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, may we have the reading of the

                 controversial calendar, in the regular order.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the controversial

                 calendar.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 642, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 393, an

                 act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

                 consecutive terms of imprisonment.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Lay the bill

                 aside temporarily.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside temporarily.

                            The Secretary will continue to read

                 in regular order.





                                                          3185



                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 848, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 3910,

                 an act to amend the Correction Law, in

                 relation to conforming civil immunity

                 protection.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Explanation.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Just hold

                 for one second.  Recess for a moment.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Senate will stand at ease temporarily.

                 Whatever.

                            Senator Paterson, was it you who

                 requested an explanation?

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Nozzolio, an explanation has been requested of

                 Calendar 848 by Senator Paterson.

                            SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  I'd be glad to explain the bill to

                 Senator Paterson.

                            S3910 amends the Correction Law to

                 conform civil immunity protections for

                 officers or employees of the Office of Mental

                 Health with the protections afforded others





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                 who serve in similar capacities in

                 correctional facilities operated by the

                 Department of Correctional Services.

                            It ensures that employees of the

                 office of OMH who work in prison mental health

                 units receive the same type of immunity from

                 civil damage actions as all other state

                 employees who work in state prisons.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  If Senator Nozzolio would yield

                 for a question.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Nozzolio, do you yield for a question?

                            SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    I'd be happy

                 to yield to Senator Paterson.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    I'm trying to

                 get an idea, Mr. President, of what the

                 gravity of the situation is, and I wondered if

                 Senator Nozzolio had any statistics or any

                 information that would lead me to understand

                 how many of these claims are being made





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                 against OMH workers at present.

                            SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Mr. President,

                 in response to Senator Paterson's question

                 regarding certain tidbits, I don't know if by

                 certain tidbits Senator Paterson is suggesting

                 that we have certain anecdotes.  I don't have

                 any anecdotes to share, although I do believe

                 that those OMH employees who work in satellite

                 units within DOCS who are doing the same type

                 of work as correctional employees are no less

                 susceptible to the day-in-and-day-out

                 challenges that all correctional employees

                 face.

                            These employees, whether they are

                 paid for as DOCS employees, Division of

                 Correctional Services employees, or OMH

                 employees, Department of Mental Health

                 employees, they are still having close daily

                 contact with inmates and are just as likely to

                 be sued as DOCS employees.

                            However, the law as it's currently

                 written does not protect them from these types

                 of actions.  So what's right is right, what's

                 fair is fair.  Protections afforded one group

                 of state employees certainly in the same,





                                                          3188



                 similar circumstances should be afforded all

                 state employees.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Thank you,

                 Senator.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    I just -

                 maybe if I just make the question a little

                 more straightforward.

                            I just wanted to know have there

                 been a considerable number of claims that

                 prompted this legislation, or was it what

                 Senator Nozzolio just said, the element of

                 what would be perceived to be fairness to the

                 OMH workers who may not be employees of the

                 state but are acting in the same fashion that

                 Senator Nozzolio would perceive DOCS workers

                 would be acting in.

                            SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Mr. President,

                 again in response to Senator Paterson's

                 question, Senator Paterson, I think that

                 certainly the Department of OMH realizes that

                 they are putting their own employees in a

                 situations that is precarious.  That they

                 certainly are, in doing, in performing the





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                 same functions that DOCS employees are

                 providing, they are providing mental health

                 services in the prison.  That we are seeing a

                 shift of responsibility for such services to

                 the Office of Mental Health.  That the

                 correctional employees are protected in their

                 personal capacities by the Correction Law as

                 it's currently written.

                            Parole officers, who are also

                 stationed in DOCS facilities, have the same

                 protection from personal liabilities as do

                 DOCS employees.

                            What we're seeing is simply an

                 extension of civil liability limitations to

                 OMH employees working in prisons that we're

                 not -- this bill in no way intends to prevent

                 inmates from pursuing legitimate claims, but

                 damage claims that inmates have still can be

                 pursued in the Court of Claims.

                            We're just saying we don't want

                 these employees sued personally.  And frankly,

                 I think that you would want the same type of

                 fairness, equity and protection.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.





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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    If Senator

                 Nozzolio would continue to yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator,

                 do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Mr. President,

                 I think the Senator makes a very good point.

                            And that is whatever the standard

                 is that we have now, might it not be more fair

                 to extend it to other employees who, as I said

                 before, may not actually work for the state

                 but are in a sense performing the same

                 function.  And as Senator Nozzolio points out,

                 it would appear that what's fair is fair.

                            So what I want to ask Senator

                 Nozzolio is just about the whole standard of

                 presumption whereby if a person is injured,

                 even if they are a convicted felon serving

                 time in one of our state penitentiaries, they

                 have an option, particularly if there's a





                                                          3191



                 perceived violation of constitutional rights,

                 to go to federal court or to go to state

                 court.

                            And that presumptive doctrine is

                 one that holds very highly in our courts.  So

                 even though it does not relate specifically to

                 this legislation, because Senator Nozzolio can

                 get up and point out very fervently that we

                 already have it for DOCS workers, so it is

                 really the same test.

                            But I just want to ask Senator

                 Nozzolio if that does not in many ways

                 diminish our whole presumption standard as it

                 applies to federal and state courts.

                            SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Mr. President,

                 in response to Senator Paterson's insightful

                 question, absolutely not.

                            That federal causes of action

                 against or providing for personal litigation

                 in the personal capacity of an employee's work

                 is not precluded in current law.  An inmate

                 would be able to sue an OMH employee under

                 this statute in their personal capacities in

                 federal court on federal causes of action.

                 That they could do that currently with DOCS





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                 employees and other employees of federal

                 causes of action are not impacted by this

                 legislation.

                            What we're trying to do, though, is

                 ensure that state employees are not subjected

                 in state court to actions arising out of the

                 course of their employment.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Thank you.

                 Mr. President, I think Senator Nozzolio has

                 covered the presumption argument.  If he would

                 just yield to a different line of questioning.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator,

                 do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Of course I

                 continue to yield to Senator Paterson.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Thank you.

                            Senator, what would you assess as

                 the protections, if not the restrictions, of

                 the ability of what would be, we would agree,

                 few but still instances in which a percentage

                 of corrections officers might use excessive

                 force, might engage in certain brutality

                 against inmates, if not the fear of personal





                                                          3193



                 liability through civil action?

                            What would be the motivation to

                 make sure that we are not actually saying to

                 either OMH workers or anyone else that they

                 have the right to treat inmates -- even though

                 they've been convicted of crimes and probably

                 left a trail of heartbreak behind them in

                 committing those crimes, the fact is that they

                 are entitled not to be brutalized in our

                 penitentiaries.  How do we prevent or in a

                 sense send a message that we don't tolerate

                 that kind of behavior?

                            SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Senator

                 Paterson, I certainly know that you, in asking

                 that question, did not mean to insult the

                 28,000 correction officers who work in our

                 correctional facilities.  I don't think you

                 meant to disparage their code of conduct,

                 their course of action within the regulatory

                 and ethical standards of which they are

                 employed.  I don't think in any way you meant

                 to insult them.

                            But, frankly, I think the question

                 is insulting.  That it is insulting to those

                 brave men and women who work in our





                                                          3194



                 correctional facilities, who do such good work

                 under the most stressful conditions.

                            That, frankly, there are, as I

                 indicated, a myriad of regulatory and other

                 disciplinary procedures that are in place

                 today that impede any wayward conduct, if it

                 does exist.  And I daresay if it does exist,

                 it exists very rarely.  But if that conduct

                 does exist, there are departmental -- a myriad

                 of departmental reviews.

                            Also, Senator, as I indicated in my

                 answer to you in my past response, that there

                 is nothing -- let's say a wayward employee did

                 so break such rules.  Certainly that inmate

                 would have a long course of redress within the

                 federal -- or extensive, I shouldn't say

                 long -- an extensive course of redress within

                 the federal court system.

                            That exists today.  It exists for

                 DOCS employees who have this protection.

                 We're basically saying that we're providing a

                 personal protection in state court for those

                 people who do such good work under such

                 stressful conditions within our correctional

                 facilities.





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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

                 Senator Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  On the bill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

                 Senator Paterson, on the bill.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Mr. President,

                 I know that Senator Nozzolio did not intend

                 any of the Office of Mental Health workers or

                 the state corrections officers -- I don't

                 think he meant to insult them.

                            In fact, he not only did not mean

                 to insult them, but he is well aware that I

                 didn't mean to insult them, and that's why he

                 repeated what I said.  I said that the cases

                 happen very rarely.  And he, on the record,

                 said the cases happen very rarely.  So neither

                 one of us were trying to insult the 28,000

                 workers.

                            What we were talking about were

                 what Senator Nozzolio termed the wayward

                 employees, few though they may be.  That's

                 what civil liability is intended to restrict,

                 those instances where though they may be very

                 few workers, and it may be very few





                                                          3196



                 individuals, maybe even a lower percentage of

                 the individuals of society who engage in

                 criminality -- but nonetheless, if we just

                 took for granted that there never is any such

                 violation, we wouldn't even have to make any

                 of these laws.  We wouldn't even have to

                 review conduct.

                            But we know that there have been

                 instances where this happened.  And we don't

                 mean to impugn the overwhelming majority of

                 workers who exercise great care and great

                 discretion in discharging their duties.  But

                 to associate the condemnation of the wayward

                 employees, few though they may be, is in a way

                 insulting to the actual majority, because the

                 majority would never engage in that kind of

                 conduct and would probably condemn it just as

                 much as I do.

                            So the point that I was trying to

                 make was that we have to have some definitive

                 way to send a message to the rogue DOCS

                 workers, rogue elected officials, rogue

                 bankers, schoolteachers and anybody else who

                 exists in our society who does not conform to

                 our rules and our principles.





                                                          3197



                            And the most classic, the most

                 understood way to do it is through civil

                 liability.  That if you violate the rights of

                 others, even though you march into court and

                 the public will be on your side because you

                 know good and well these are people who

                 committed crimes and no one has any real

                 sympathy for them, the fact is that you will

                 not get any sympathy from this court because,

                 if it can be proven beyond a reasonable

                 doubt -- or in the case of a civil case, by a

                 preponderance of the evidence -- that you

                 engaged in those kinds of acts, you are going

                 to pay for it.  It's a wrongful act.

                            And so this is the reason that I do

                 have a difficulty with the law as it stands

                 now, and even the proposed expansion of it to

                 include those who are not even employees of

                 the state.  And this is the reason that I

                 would encourage a no vote on this bill.

                            Other than to say that Senator

                 Nozzolio is right when he points out that if

                 we're going to have workers doing the same

                 jobs, they should have the same protections.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank





                                                          3198



                 you, Senator Paterson.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

                 the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

                 the negative on Calendar Number 848 are

                 Senators Connor, Dollinger, Duane, Gonzalez,

                 Markowitz, Montgomery, Onorato, Paterson,

                 Rosado, Schneiderman, A. Smith, M. Smith, and

                 Stavisky.  Ayes, 44.  Nays, 13.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

                 bill is passed.

                            Senator Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Mr. President,

                 there will be an immediate meeting of the

                 Insurance Committee in Room 332, the Majority

                 Conference Room.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    There

                 will be an immediate meeting of the Insurance

                 Committee in the Majority Conference Room,

                 Room 332.

                            The Secretary will read.





                                                          3199



                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 642, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 393, an

                 act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

                 consecutive terms of imprisonment.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Read

                 the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 November.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

                 the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Montgomery recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

                 bill is passed.

                            Senator Velella, that completes the

                 reading of the controversial calendar.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Mr. President,

                 is there any housekeeping at the desk?

                            THE PRESIDENT:    No housekeeping,

                 Senator.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Mr. President,

                 can we stand at ease for a few moments.





                                                          3200



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

                 house will stand at ease.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

                 ease at 4:05 p.m.)

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    For the

                 convenience of the members, so they can plan

                 their day accordingly, at 4:30 there will be a

                 meeting of the Health Committee in the

                 Majority Conference Room.  4:30.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    At

                 4:30 there will be a meeting of the Health

                 Committee in the Majority Conference Room,

                 Room 332.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

                 at 4:14 p.m.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

                 Senate will come to order.

                            Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President, I

                 have a privileged resolution at the desk.  I

                 would ask that it be read in its entirety and

                 move for its immediate adoption.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator Bruno,





                                                          3201



                 Legislative Resolution Number 4056, mourning

                 the death of His Eminence John O'Connor,

                 Archbishop of the Roman Catholic Diocese of

                 New York.

                            "WHEREAS, It is with profound

                 sorrow and deepest regret that this

                 Legislative Body, representing the people of

                 the State of New York, is moved to mourn the

                 death of a man of singular distinction and

                 extraordinary accomplishment; and

                            "WHEREAS, The purposeful life of

                 John Cardinal O'Connor, an eminent man of

                 indomitable faith, spirit and perseverance,

                 will forever be an inspiration to others; and

                            "WHEREAS, One of the most pious

                 religious leaders in the United States, a

                 truly faithful shepherd of the Roman Catholic

                 Church, John Cardinal O'Connor, the oldest

                 active Roman Catholic bishop in the United

                 States, passed away on Wednesday, May 3, 2000,

                 at the age of 80; and

                            "WHEREAS, born in Philadelphia on

                 January 15, 1920, Cardinal O'Connor attended

                 public schools until he was a high school

                 junior.  Then, under the Christian Brothers of





                                                          3202



                 Philadelphia's West Catholic High, he was

                 inspired to take up a religious life.

                            "Cardinal O'Connor entered St.

                 Charles Borromeo Seminary at the age of 16 and

                 was ordained in 1945.  He began his religious

                 career in his native city, teaching and doing

                 parish work.

                            "From 1952 to 1979, he served as a

                 chaplain with the Navy and Marine Corps,

                 rising to the rank of rear admiral and the

                 position of chief of chaplains for the Navy;

                 and

                            "WHEREAS, In 1979 the Pope ordained

                 Cardinal O'Connor bishop for the United States

                 Armed Forces, and he was assigned to the

                 military vicarate under Cardinal Terence Cooke

                 of New York; and

                            "WHEREAS, In May 1983, he was

                 appointed bishop of Scranton, Pennsylvania.

                 He held that post less than a year before

                 being chosen to succeed Cardinal Cooke as New

                 York archbishop and spiritual leader of 2.4

                 million Catholics in the New York Archdiocese.

                 He was elevated to Cardinal in May 1985; and

                            "WHEREAS, Cardinal O'Connor was the





                                                          3203



                 host of his own television program, wrote a

                 weekly column in the Archdiocesan newspaper,

                 and conducted an on-line chat in 1995 in which

                 he answered questions on subjects ranging from

                 his view on abortion to his favorite author.

                            "In recognition of a lifetime of

                 service and accomplishments, the United States

                 Congress awarded Cardinal O'Connor the

                 country's highest civilian honor, the

                 Congressional Gold Medal.

                            "A familiar figure to devout

                 Catholics as well as other New Yorkers,

                 Cardinal O'Connor reached out to many

                 communities and was instrumental in the

                 Vatican's recognition of Israel; and

                            "WHEREAS, An extremely religious,

                 patriotic American who served his country with

                 pride and his God with great care and concern,

                 Cardinal O'Connor was man of remarkable faith

                 and spirit who inspired people of all

                 religions with his message of hope, compassion

                 and love; and

                            "WHEREAS, From his first

                 Philadelphia parish to soldiers on the

                 battlefield, from the carnage of Bosnia to the





                                                          3204



                 tragedy of AIDS, Cardinal O'Connor served as a

                 courageous and eloquent spokesperson for the

                 teachings and traditions of the church, which

                 he communicated with integrity and sincerity;

                 and

                            "WHEREAS, John Cardinal O'Connor is

                 survived by two sisters, Dorothy Hamilton and

                 Mary Theresa Ward, and a brother, Thomas J.

                 O'Connor; now, therefore, be it

                            "RESOLVED, That this Legislative

                 Body pause in its deliberations to pay tribute

                 to the memory of John Cardinal O'Connor,

                 memorializing his life and accomplishments for

                 the edification and emulation of all; and be

                 it further

                            "RESOLVED, That copies of this

                 resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted

                 to the family of John Cardinal O'Connor and

                 the Archdiocese of New York."

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            You know, as you listen to the

                 resolution that's been read -- and it takes

                 just a few minutes to read a lifetime of





                                                          3205



                 service by John Cardinal O'Connor.  And as you

                 just reflect, you just can't help but think

                 about the world as we know it and you wonder

                 how you continue to carry on the good things

                 that the Cardinal worked for and stood for.

                            You know, when I met him -- and I

                 had the privilege within the last couple of

                 years of having lunch with he and some of the

                 others -- he was one of the most impressive

                 individuals that I've ever spent any time

                 with.  I mean, his intellect, his wit, his

                 sincerity, it was just as compelling as it

                 could be.

                            And when you thought about a man

                 like that, you just had the feeling that he

                 could have been anything that he wanted to be.

                 And what he wanted to be was to spend his life

                 committed to others.  In the service -- and

                 you talk about a career, having had a career

                 to be proud of in the service, a ministry

                 there as chaplain, and then to go on from

                 there.

                            And when I was visiting with him,

                 he indicated -- because I said, "How do you

                 get to be a cardinal?"  And he said it was the





                                                          3206



                 most unlikely thing on his mind.  That when he

                 was really through with the service and he was

                 in a diocese, that he literally thought that

                 he was going to kind of take it easy.  And he

                 got called to accept the responsibility as

                 cardinal.  And he said it happened almost just

                 like that.

                            And he just dedicated himself

                 really to those that had the least.  The

                 sickest people, people with AIDS, that he

                 would take up their cause.  The poorest people

                 that anyone could relate to.  People that

                 immigrated over that really didn't have many

                 people to turn to.

                            He was just a good person, wanting

                 to improve the life of so many others.  And

                 when you think about him and his memory, you

                 just think in terms of all of his presence and

                 all of the good things that he did.

                            And I guess there's some

                 consolation in recognizing that those things

                 go on.  The things he stood for, that he

                 worked for, they just go on.

                            He's gone on now to his reward and

                 has now approached what may be retirement.





                                                          3207



                 But I have a feeling that he'll be up there

                 doing a lot of things to make sure that

                 everything that happens up there is as

                 effective as it can be.

                            But you just couldn't help, in

                 coming away from spending time with him, in

                 just feeling that you were in the presence of

                 somebody that was truly a great individual.

                 As I was just listening for a couple of

                 minutes to the history of sort of his life, I

                 think all of us can be proud that he was the

                 Archbishop here in New York and of his life

                 and of the legacy that he leaves all of us

                 here being from New York.

                            And I remember as I was leaving

                 that luncheon, I made the comment -- he was

                 going to Italy every month, meeting with the

                 Pope, talking with the Pope every month.  And

                 I said I had never been to Italy.  And he

                 said, "I am going to take you.  You are going

                 to go to Italy, and you're going to have an

                 opportunity to meet the Pope."

                            And through no fault of his, but

                 all of mine -- because a flight of seven or

                 eight or nine hours wasn't anything that I was





                                                          3208



                 looking to, so it never happened.  But he was

                 sincere when he said, "You just call and let

                 me know, and that will happen."

                            And that's the kind of man he was,

                 just reaching out all the time, just doing

                 things for people.  So we can all be proud

                 that he was here in New York and that we knew

                 of him and all the good things that he leaves

                 with us.

                            Thank you, Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Goodman.

                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Madam

                 President, with the loss of Cardinal O'Connor

                 I think a number of us who worked with him and

                 knew him feel a deep sense of personal loss.

                 This was an extraordinary man, possibly the

                 closest thing to a saint that I shall ever

                 have the privilege of knowing.

                            I would like to reflect just very

                 briefly upon a few interactions I had with His

                 Eminence, and I think that will convey the

                 extraordinary breadth of his humanitarian

                 instincts and his concern for his fellow men.

                            Let it be noted that it was

                 well-known to him that I was one of those who





                                                          3209



                 led the initial debate in this chamber for the

                 abortion reform law.  Despite his deep and

                 total commitment to life, he was nonetheless

                 prepared to have a dialogue on issues that

                 were unrelated to that.  And I think that

                 reflects his extraordinary capacity to embrace

                 others who might have disagreed with him in

                 one arena while seeking to work with them in

                 another arena.

                            Let me just mention a few things

                 that might be of interest in this chamber.

                 First of all, Madam President, the first

                 occasion I ever visited the Cardinal at his

                 residence related to a school reform matter in

                 which he had a deep interest.  We discussed

                 the concept of pedagogy, and I saluted the

                 extraordinary proficiency of pedagogy as it's

                 practiced in the parochial schools.

                            There are few places in which

                 education is delivered with greater

                 effectiveness and greater economy at the same

                 time than in the Catholic parochial schools of

                 New York City.  And we were interested in

                 seeing if there were not some experimental

                 methods in which those teaching techniques





                                                          3210



                 could be expanded to be available to others

                 beyond the Catholic instructional area.

                            Beyond that, we once had a very

                 interesting discussion concerning the matter

                 of AIDS and the treatment of AIDS patients.

                 And as is probably known, the Catholic Church

                 runs probably the best hospice system for AIDS

                 victims that exists.  For those of you who may

                 have been within the ambit of any of these

                 facilities, you will note the extraordinary

                 degree to which the AIDS patient is comforted

                 in his or her final days.  It's an inspiration

                 in terms of the way in which care can be

                 delivered.

                            Also, the Cancer Care Hospital,

                 which is made available through the Catholic

                 Charities in New York, is one of the great

                 cancer care institutions of the nation and is

                 certainly an example to be followed by those

                 of us who care deeply for the terminal

                 patients who have problems in this arena.

                            I'd like to mention that not long

                 ago, at a Friendly Sons of St. Patrick's

                 dinner, when I saluted the Cardinal -- and

                 incidentally, I always called him "Admiral,"





                                                          3211



                 because as a former admiral's aide myself in

                 the Navy, I had immense respect for his

                 stature as a real admiral, which is a rarity,

                 to have a clergyman rise to that rank.

                            He was, of course, the principal

                 clerical admiral in the Navy, a very unique

                 distinction indeed.  And his eyes would always

                 twinkle when I called him "Admiral" and

                 saluted him.

                            But I did see him on the dais of

                 the Friendly Sons of St. Patrick's dinner.  At

                 that point, he said "Would you come to my

                 office next week?  I'd like to speak with you

                 concerning a matter of mutual interest."

                            I went to see him.  And I've

                 already mentioned in this chamber during the

                 course of an earlier debate his concern with

                 the so-called bias crime bill.  It was the

                 Cardinal's conviction that the time had come

                 for the church to give every possible

                 consideration to the passage of that type of

                 legislation.

                            And together we determined what

                 might be a useful strategy in bringing other

                 members of the church -- principally the





                                                          3212



                 bishops -- into alignment with that thinking.

                            The strategy was carried into last

                 summer, and it was his suggestion that there

                 be a meeting, a convocation of the bishops to

                 consider this question.  And during that

                 convocation it was his thought that he should

                 invite myself and possibly one or two other

                 legislators to explain the nature of this

                 bill.

                            Unfortunately, at that point he was

                 struck with the terminal cancer which finally

                 took him from us.  We were never able to

                 consummate that.  But I thought that his deep

                 concern for this issue was inspirational and

                 deeply humanitarian.

                            Finally, Madam President, may I

                 observe that on one occasion a dear friend of

                 mine was severely hurt in an automobile

                 accident.  He happened to be the son of one of

                 our Republican county chairmen resident in

                 Westchester.  He lay in a coma, the young man

                 did, and Cardinal O'Connor ventured up to

                 Westchester for the sole purpose of praying at

                 the bedside of this stricken young man and

                 bringing consolation to his family.





                                                          3213



                            Beyond that, let me just say his

                 sense of humor was all-encompassing.  I

                 remember at his convocation in St. Patrick's

                 Cathedral he wore a baseball cap instead of

                 his accustomed skullcap.  And this was

                 something which brought peals of laughter to

                 those in the audience, and immediately

                 revealed that he was a man of great

                 humanitarian and wonderful good fellowship

                 instincts.

                            And so I conclude by simply saying

                 that here was a man we shall not see his like

                 ever again, I'm sure.  I deeply value the

                 association with him.  I revere him.  I shall

                 always carry him in my recollection with the

                 deepest admiration and respect.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Farley.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            Senator Bruno, your comments were

                 very eloquent.  And it's kind of ironic that

                 Cardinal O'Connor grew up in a very humble and

                 modest family background in northern

                 Pennsylvania, as did you.

                            Cardinal O'Connor was always very





                                                          3214



                 good to me and somebody that was an absolute

                 hero to me.  And as I was chosen Catholic

                 Legislator of the Year as a result of his

                 intercession, it was one of the thrills of my

                 life.

                            But let me just say that his humor,

                 his commitment, the way that he was revered in

                 this state and in this nation is truly unique.

                 Cardinal O'Connor was a remarkable guy, as

                 humble and as down-to-earth as anybody could

                 be.

                            Anybody that met him or ever spoke

                 to him was absolutely taken with the

                 comfortable way, the kind way -- his humility,

                 but his strength.  I was -- everyone that has

                 spoken about Cardinal O'Connor and has known

                 him was taken by the way that he certainly

                 impressed them like no one they had ever met.

                            Seldom will we ever see someone

                 like this again.  The Catholic Church was

                 indeed fortunate to have such a leader.

                 Certainly New York State and humanity was

                 impressed by his leadership.  We'll miss him.

                 And I know that Cardinal O'Connor is looking

                 down upon us all.





                                                          3215



                            And he had a great interest in this

                 house and in this Legislature and I think knew

                 the backgrounds of almost everyone that served

                 here.  He was very, very knowledgeable and

                 somebody that his breadth of interest was

                 incredible, from the baseball hat to whatever

                 it took to serve his people.

                            Cardinal O'Connor was a great man,

                 and we'll all miss him.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

                 you, Senator Farley.

                            Senator Connor.

                            SENATOR CONNOR:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            Much has been said merely in the

                 past week concerning Cardinal O'Connor.  And I

                 think, if I may be -- certainly add my voice

                 to everything that's been said, and perhaps

                 without reciting all the Cardinal's many

                 accomplishments, certainly his outspoken

                 leadership role, his consistency to his

                 mission.

                            What most always impressed me,

                 frankly, for many years about the Cardinal was

                 his personal kindliness, his gentleness and





                                                          3216



                 his willingness to reach out in times of

                 trouble.  And you know, if you've read in the

                 newspapers these past days, there have been

                 accounts of him calling people in hospitals,

                 visiting people in hospitals, calling people

                 when, you know, he read in the paper there was

                 some trouble looming on the horizon for them.

                            And I want to say what most

                 impressed me is that that extended to people

                 who he often differed with.  And he could

                 sometimes be -- well, he could let you know

                 when he differed.  He had a way of letting you

                 know when he disagreed with you.

                            And I read in the paper the other

                 day about Geraldine Ferraro recounting how

                 kind he was to her family on numerous

                 instances, calling her to inquire about her

                 son, her husband, and so on.  Even though in

                 the headlines they seemed to be adversaries

                 for a time.  And he did indeed cancel some

                 appearances she was to make to speak in

                 certain Catholic institutions.

                            For myself, I felt his kindness at

                 a time when this house indeed was in great

                 turmoil some 13 years ago.  And there were





                                                          3217



                 newspaper stories about various members, and

                 there were investigations and all sorts of

                 things.  And, you know, I had my share of

                 newspaper stories that made it look like I was

                 being marched to the gallows rather

                 imminently.  It never happened, thank God.

                            But newspaper stories, as we all

                 know, can make people look pretty bad.  And

                 during those weeks, I noticed -- that's when

                 you notice the fair-weather friends and the

                 real friends.  That's when you find some

                 people seem to cross the street rather than

                 stand and talk to you.  Other people come up

                 and encourage you.

                            And during that time, the Cardinal

                 hosted a reception for legislators and spouses

                 at the chancery and his home.  And I'll never

                 forget ringing the doorbell, being there with

                 my wife.  I think one of the nastiest stories

                 I hope to ever read about me or my family was

                 in the newspaper that morning.

                            And the Cardinal made it a point,

                 he looked down -- you know, it's kind of a

                 grated window he looked through.  And there

                 was a monsignor there who was greeting





                                                          3218



                 everyone, but the Cardinal personally came

                 bouncing down the steps, opened the door,

                 said, "Marty Connor, come in.  You're always

                 welcome here," put his arms around me and my

                 wife, marched us into the whole gathering and

                 kept us at his side for quite some time.

                 Delivering a message to many others who were

                 assembled there, you know.

                            So as I read the many accounts of

                 his kindness, on a personal level I understood

                 exactly how true those accounts were, how

                 that's the way the Cardinal did operate.  He

                 was in the pastoral sense -- leaving aside the

                 Prince of the Church role, he really was a

                 pastor to people, whether they were Catholic

                 or not.  He certainly reached out to all New

                 Yorkers when he sensed they needed a bit of

                 encouragement, they needed to -- he really had

                 a way of conveying to everyone their worth as

                 an individual and his care and concern for

                 them.

                            So certainly I shall miss him.  But

                 I thank God that we were benefited here in

                 New York with his presence and his leadership.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.





                                                          3219



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

                 you, Senator Connor.

                            Senator Marchi.

                            SENATOR MARCHI:    Mr. President,

                 it -- everything that's been said is so true

                 and reflects the feelings and the aspect

                 that -- I was about the third row right from

                 the altar when this was taking place, and

                 there were all kinds of people.  And you can

                 see in their faces by looking at them what

                 their racial, ethnic, spiritual, wherever they

                 came from, whether they believed or didn't

                 believe at all, how marked an imprint and

                 impact that Cardinal John O'Connor had on

                 them.  Absolutely true.

                            Because he still had this profound

                 love of individuals, of people.  Fierce in his

                 adherence and his allegiance to the faith,

                 with that went also this great love of

                 humanity and people, individuals, regardless

                 of differences.

                            I remember I wrote to him when he

                 came out for -- I think all of you are too

                 young to remember Dorothy Day and Peter

                 Maurin.  And he took up the cause of their





                                                          3220



                 beatification and beyond.  And I wrote to him.

                 I said I was -- that was almost 60 years ago

                 and I remember being -- working with the ACTU,

                 which supported Dorothy Day.

                            But at that time she was looked on

                 with great mixed feelings, because she had a

                 riotous start as a young lady.  I mean, she

                 did everything that no one even would have

                 dreamt of doing, and yet there was this

                 beloved woman doing so much for the poor and

                 with evident love and respect that she had for

                 everybody.

                            And I said he didn't, when I wrote,

                 I wrote to him -- but I used to see him quite

                 often, but he was sick by this time.  And I

                 wrote to him, I said, "I know you'll bounce

                 back.  You always do," I said.  But she didn't

                 even have the support that St. Augustine had

                 when he had a mixed youth.  But he had St.

                 Monica, I pointed out in the letter,

                 supporting him and praying for him.

                            And he wrote a very humorous

                 response, which I certainly appreciated.

                            Cardinal Law mentioned his

                 outrageous humor.  And he was, you know, a





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                 person who can enjoy himself just by just

                 human companionship, without respect to how

                 you feel or not asking you anything special

                 except to exchange love for love and all that

                 goes with it.

                            Cardinal Law mentioned -- and this

                 I didn't know.  None of us knew.  We were

                 there waiting for the party of people that had

                 gone down to the crypt.  And on the crypt, as

                 was faithfully reported by the New York Times

                 and other publications, and what was said in

                 the address that Cardinal Law gave to us, on

                 the crypt was inscribed "There is no love

                 without justice."

                            Meaning we have to be fair with

                 people.  We have to recognize the basic

                 reality of existence and our purpose in life.

                            And he chose that as his motto.

                 And those of -- those people who will go down

                 in the crypt, and he mentioned that, that he

                 wanted -- this is exactly what he wanted on

                 his crypt, because there were a number of

                 unfilled places.  He said, "I know I will be

                 taking my place."  And this is what he wanted,

                 that there is no love without justice.





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                            And justice goes beyond just being

                 plain fair.  It's an inherent and deep

                 knowledge of the dignity of every human being,

                 without exception.  And you can never divest

                 that person of that respect, even if you're

                 poles apart.  And this is what consumed him

                 most.

                            And as was pointed out by previous

                 speakers, he would rush to their side, be it 2

                 or 3 o'clock in the morning, at the bedside of

                 a patient that was ill with AIDS, and give

                 them courage, and as much as his life would

                 allow him to do this.  And he was a very

                 strong man until he was stricken so cruelly.

                            But it was an exceptional,

                 exceptional message that he left to us, that

                 in the position that -- the modest position

                 that we hold in life here, that you cannot

                 love without justice to our fellow human

                 beings.

                            So we sorely miss his presence.

                 But as Cardinal Angelo Sodano said, "Well, we

                 don't offer condolences.  We offer thanks to

                 the Almighty for having given us Cardinal

                 O'Connor for so many years."





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                            And indeed, he was with us and he

                 consoled and enriched us during all of those

                 years that he was at our side.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

                 Senator Stafford.

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            Everyone has been eloquent.  It's

                 been stated so well the type of person John

                 Cardinal O'Connor was and is.

                            And I would just share, I too had

                 occasions to meet with him.  And as a matter

                 of fact, we traveled from Ogdensburg to Albany

                 together not that many years ago.

                            And encompassing what everyone is

                 saying here today, I would just say Cardial

                 O'Connor is a man who, when you met with him,

                 it's something you never forget.  You never

                 forget.  He had such presence, such poise,

                 and, yes, a sense of humor.

                            And as I say, people that have

                 spoken ahead of me really have covered it all.

                 I would just say anyone who is so fortunate as

                 to have been touched by the life of Cardinal

                 O'Connor personally is that much better a





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                 person.

                            And I can only say that thinking

                 through the years, he is the type of

                 individual or is the individual that really

                 stands out in your mind because of the

                 contributions he made and how he related and

                 how he was able to communicate with people.

                            We're all better people because of

                 Cardinal O'Connor.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

                 you, Senator Stafford.

                            Senator Lachman.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    I first met

                 Cardinal O'Connor about a dozen years ago when

                 a group of Catholic and Jewish lay and

                 religious leaders sat down at the mansion to

                 discuss issues of concern to the Catholic and

                 Jewish community in the Archdiocese of New

                 York and beyond that.

                            I was pleasantly surprised and

                 shocked, I must say, that when the Cardinal

                 discovered that one or perhaps two of the ten

                 Jewish participants was kosher, that he

                 ordered his staff to secure a kosher caterer,

                 to bring in new cutlery and new silverware.





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                            This is the type of man that he

                 was.  He always thought of the needs of other

                 people.

                            About eight years ago I was

                 surprised to discover that I was appointed to

                 cochair, with former Governor Carey, a blue

                 ribbon panel on the future of Catholic

                 education in New York State.  And I was

                 somewhat taken aback because my whole

                 background was in the public schools and not

                 in the nonpublic schools.  And I discovered

                 from the superintendent of schools and the

                 vicar for education that this honor was

                 checked out with the Cardinal Archbishop of

                 New York.

                            We had frequent conversations on

                 issues of education, national education.  We

                 had conversations dealing with infertility.

                 And the last one was just a few weeks before

                 his recent surgery of last summer that proved

                 to be fatal.

                            He was a very unusual man.  Many

                 people have expressed this uniqueness of the

                 Cardinal much better than I can.  Not only was

                 he the primate of the Catholic Church in North





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                 America, especially after the passing of

                 Joseph Cardinal Bernardin of Chicago, not only

                 was he consistent with the basic principles of

                 the church regardless of the difficulties that

                 might ensue from his totally seamless garment

                 of pro-life feelings -- coming out even

                 against the death penalty when very few people

                 would come out against the death penalty -

                 Cardinal O'Connor was not only a living symbol

                 of religiosity to his own parishioners and to

                 Catholics, but he was a symbol of the infinite

                 goodness and kindness and thoughtfulness and

                 graciousness that his whole life was an

                 example of to people of all religions, whether

                 they are Catholic, Jewish, Protestant, and

                 Muslim.

                            I mean, someone mentioned that -- I

                 think the resolution mentioned his influence

                 on the church's position in recognizing the

                 State of Israel.  He had a tremendous

                 influence on encyclicals and statements of the

                 church dealing with facing up to anti-Semitism

                 and the Holocaust.  He had a tremendous

                 influence on what is taking place in Northern

                 Ireland today.





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                            He had a tremendous influence in

                 being one of the strongest supporters and

                 backers of working people in the city and

                 state of New York, supporting unions,

                 supporting people who did not, he felt,

                 receive enough funding to support their own

                 families.

                            You cannot define this Cardinal as

                 liberal, conservative, progressive.  You have

                 to define him as one of the most outstanding

                 human beings that walked this earth in the

                 20th century.  And those of us who live in the

                 state of New York and those of us who had the

                 privilege of knowing him now know that we will

                 probably never see the likes of him again.

                            May his soul rest in peace.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

                 you, Senator Lachman.

                            Senator Maltese.

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Mr. President,

                 it's extremely difficult to follow my good

                 colleagues with such eloquence -- Senator

                 Lachman, Senator Marchi, so many others.  At

                 the same time, I would be remiss not to say a

                 few words of recollection, not to do Cardinal





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                 O'Connor honor but to state that he did us

                 honor in so many ways.

                            Listening to my colleagues and

                 listening to the comments that have been made

                 in the last few days, I realize now why he

                 seemed to have such an intimate knowledge of

                 the Legislature and particularly the Senate.

                 Because in so many ways he knew intimately my

                 colleagues.  He knew of their interests, he

                 knew of their dedication.

                            And in speaking to him, there never

                 was a time when he hesitated to speak himself

                 rather than through an intermediary.  I

                 remember very vividly the first time I spoke

                 to him many years ago on a question of

                 legislation and thinking that I would get on

                 with possibly his assistant or a bishop or an

                 auxiliary bishop.  I was surprised when the

                 Cardinal himself got on the phone and

                 indicated an awareness, an interest, and a

                 knowledge of legislation that was to come

                 before this house.

                            And that was repeated over and over

                 again in the intervening years.  And they were

                 not only issues of the right to life or





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                 Catholic education, but they were issues of

                 economic justice and even, yes, the death

                 penalty, where I didn't -- I was not of his

                 mind.

                            It was very plain that his spirit

                 encompassed, his spirit and his interests

                 encompassed all issues that affected not only

                 the moral and spiritual life of New Yorkers

                 and the people of this country but also their

                 economic well-being, their family life, their

                 moral existence.

                            I think it's a testament to the

                 greatness of the man that so many people from

                 so many walks of life who might have disagreed

                 with him on one subject or another do him

                 honor by their testaments on his behalf.

                            One thing is certain.  He was not

                 one to engage in that false camaraderie which

                 would seek acclaim or friendship from those

                 who would disagree with him on matters that he

                 might consider of faith and morals.  He stated

                 his position, not in a belligerent or

                 aggressive or antagonistic role.  Based on his

                 Navy background, he probably said, You take me

                 as I am or you don't take me at all.  And





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                 apparently and not apparently, but that was

                 actually as people took him.

                            Because he was a great man and

                 certainly was a man that, as Senator Marchi

                 has just indicated, that we will not see his

                 like again.  Because in the past 20 or 30

                 years I've been involved in public life, it is

                 very, very difficult indeed to think of

                 another man like him who was a holy man, a

                 knowledgeable man, a man of compassion, a man

                 of humanity, a great humanitarian.

                            We will sorely miss him in New

                 York, and we will miss him certainly in areas

                 of right to life and areas of economic

                 justice, in areas that will be confronting

                 this Legislature and legislatures across the

                 country on matters that will come up, not only

                 issues like euthanasia but some of the cloning

                 and infertility problems that are complex

                 moral issues that will have to be closely

                 examined.

                            And it was not only heartening but

                 something that moved us all to have this great

                 man of great knowledge and infinite wisdom on

                 our side speaking on behalf of all people.  He





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                 is a man that will be missed.  He is a true

                 man, a true man of God.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

                 you, Senator Maltese.

                            On the resolution, all those in

                 favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

                 Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

                 resolution is adopted.

                            Senator Goodman.

                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Mr. President,

                 Senator Bruno would like to open this

                 resolution up to all the members for

                 cosponsorship.  Could you please put everyone

                 on as cosponsors.

                            But if anyone does not wish to be

                 on the resolution, you should notify the desk.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

                 you, Senator Goodman.

                            All Senators, unless they notify

                 the desk otherwise, shall be put on the

                 resolution as cosponsors.





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                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Mr. President,

                 is there any housekeeping at the desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    No

                 housekeeping.

                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Senator

                 Seabrook, I'd like to recognize you for

                 purposes of casting a vote.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

                 Senator Seabrook, you wish to be recognized?

                            SENATOR SEABROOK:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

                 Senator Seabrook.

                            SENATOR SEABROOK:    Mr. President,

                 with unanimous consent, I'd like to be -- I

                 was out of the room when Calendar 848 was

                 called, and I'd like to be recorded in the

                 negative on Calendar 848.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

                 Without objection, you will be recorded in the

                 negative, Senator.

                            Senator Goodman.

                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Mr. President,

                 there being no further business to come before

                 the Senate, I move we adjourn until Wednesday,





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                 May 10th, at 11:00 a.m.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    On the

                 motion to adjourn, the Senate will stand

                 adjourned until Wednesday, May 10th, at

                 11:00 a.m.

                            (Whereupon, at 4:55 p.m., the

                 Senate adjourned.)