Regular Session - May 10, 2000

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                           NEW YORK STATE SENATE





                          THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD









                             ALBANY, NEW YORK

                               May 10, 2000

                                11:05 a.m.





                              REGULAR SESSION







                 SENATOR RAYMOND A. MEIER, Acting President

                 STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

















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                           P R O C E E D I N G S

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Senate will come to order.

                            Will everyone present please rise

                 and repeat with me the Pledge of Allegiance to

                 the Flag.

                            (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

                 the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    In the

                 absence of clergy, may we all bow our heads in

                 a moment of silence.

                            (Whereupon, the assemblage

                 respected a moment of silence.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Reading

                 of the Journal.

                            THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

                 Tuesday, May 9th, the Senate met pursuant to

                 adjournment.  The Journal of Monday, May 8th,

                 was read and approved.  On motion, Senate

                 adjourned.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Without

                 objection, the Journal stands approved as

                 read.

                            Presentation of petitions.

                            Messages from the Assembly.





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                            Message from the Governor.

                            Reports of standing committees.

                            Reports of select committees.

                            Communications and reports from

                 state officers.

                            Motions and resolutions.

                            Senator Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Thank you,

                 Mr. President.

                            On behalf of Senator Bonacic, on

                 page number 68 I offer the following

                 amendments to Calendar Number 686, Senate

                 Print Number 6540, and ask that said bill

                 retain its place on the Third Reading

                 Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received, and the bill will

                 retain its place on the Third Reading

                 Calendar.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Thank you,

                 sir.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 there's a privileged resolution, 4137, at the





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                 desk, by Senator Saland.  May we please have

                 the title read and move for its immediate

                 adoption.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Legislative

                 Resolution Number 4137, by Senator Saland,

                 commemorating the Dutchess County Special

                 Olympics Spring Games on May 13, 2000, and

                 honoring Special Olympics of Dutchess County

                 upon the occasion of its 30th anniversary.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the resolution.  All those in

                 favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 resolution is adopted.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 are there any substitutions at the desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Yes,

                 there are.





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                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Would you please

                 make them at this time.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the substitutions.

                            THE SECRETARY:    On page 5,

                 Senator Skelos moves to discharge, from the

                 Committee on Judiciary, Assembly Bill Number

                 4758A and substitute it for the identical

                 Senate Bill Number 6283A, First Report

                 Calendar 971.

                            On page 6, Senator Lack moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Judiciary,

                 Assembly Bill Number 5763A and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 6914,

                 First Report Calendar 976.

                            On page 7, Senator Marchi moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Corporations,

                 Authorities and Commissions, Assembly Bill

                 Number 7637A and substitute it for the

                 identical Senate Bill Number 3620A, First

                 Report Calendar 985.

                            On page 8, Senator Larkin moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Codes,

                 Assembly Bill Number 1578B and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 1066B,





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                 First Report Calendar 1000.

                            On page 10, Senator Farley moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on

                 Transportation, Assembly Bill Number 2789A and

                 substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

                 Number 1596A, First Report Calendar 1022.

                            On page 16, Senator McGee moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Finance,

                 Assembly Bill Number 4209B and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 4325B,

                 First Report Calendar 1083.

                            On page 18, Senator Meier moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Veterans and

                 Military Affairs, Assembly Bill Number 3085

                 and substitute it for the identical Senate

                 Bill Number 923, First Report Calendar 1100.

                            On page 19, Senator Maltese moves

                 to discharge, from the Committee on Consumer

                 Protection, Assembly Bill Number 3389B and

                 substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

                 Number 3229B, First Report Calendar 1113.

                            On page 20, Senator Balboni moves

                 to discharge, from the Committee on Health,

                 Assembly Bill Number 1933B and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 1530B,





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                 First Report Calendar 1127.

                            And on page 21, Senator Volker

                 moves to discharge, from the Committee on

                 Health, Assembly Bill Number 4097 and

                 substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

                 Number 4953, First Report Calendar 1134.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

                 Substitutions ordered.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 at this time may we please have the

                 noncontroversial calendar read.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the noncontroversial

                 calendar.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 211, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 3597B,

                 an act to amend the Administrative Code of the

                 City of New York, in relation to the

                 enforcement of Environmental Control Board

                 judgments.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Lay it aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the





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                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 705, by Senator Balboni, Senate Print 6854, an

                 act authorizing the assessor of the County of

                 Nassau to accept an application.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Mr.

                 President, everybody is sick and tired of

                 hearing my refrain.  I won't repeat it.

                            This is exactly why we shouldn't

                 make Senator Balboni the chief assessment

                 review officer in Nassau County.  This is a

                 contagion.  It's spreading everywhere.  Before

                 you know it, we might as well take all the

                 assessment review cases from Nassau County

                 where people fail to properly file for an

                 exemption or they buy a property in the middle





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                 of the exemption year.

                            I'll continue to vote no, Mr.

                 President.  I again urge that Senator Hannon's

                 bill be amended, brought to the floor, and

                 let's get rid of all of these kinds of bills

                 forever.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger will be recorded in the negative.

                            Senator Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, I have to rise to defend my

                 colleague from Nassau County.  I think Senator

                 Balboni would make a great assessment officer

                 from Nassau County if he so chose.

                            (Laughter.)

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    But he's an

                 even better New York State Senator, and we're

                 going to keep him here in the Senate despite

                 Senator Dollinger's urging.

                            Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    How do

                 you vote, Senator Marcellino?

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    I vote aye.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Marcellino will be recorded in the





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                 affirmative.

                            Senator Balboni.

                            SENATOR BALBONI:    I'd just like

                 to tell the body I have no plans of going to

                 any other job.  I love this place.  And that's

                 why we love doing these great things.

                            I just -- it's amazing that Senator

                 Dollinger and I can be having a conversation

                 two seconds ago about basketball, and then he

                 comes right out here and votes against my

                 bill.

                            You are a man of integrity and you

                 can really change like that.  I love that

                 about you.

                            But you ought to vote for those

                 bills, though, because these are good bills

                 for the people of my Senate district.

                            Thank you very much.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Balboni will be recorded in the affirmative.

                            The Secretary will announce the

                 results.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 45.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Dollinger recorded in the

                 negative.





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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 706, by Senator Balboni, Senate Print 6855, an

                 act to authorize the St. Gregorios Malankara

                 Orthodox Church.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 45.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Dollinger recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 711, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 7331, an

                 act to amend the Local Finance Law and Chapter

                 413 of the Laws of 1991.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 6.  This





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                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Mr.

                 President, is this Bill 711?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Yes, it

                 is.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Is this the

                 mandate relief bill, Mr. President?  Just

                 so . . .

                            Mr. President, just to be heard

                 briefly on the bill.  I believe this is -

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Well,

                 Senator, we're in the middle of a roll call.

                 Do you want the roll call withdrawn?

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    No, Mr.

                 President.  I'll just explain my vote.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger, to explain his vote.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Mr.

                 President, I'm going to vote in favor of this

                 bill.  I always do.





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                            This is the bill that provides

                 mandate relief.  You remember that thing that

                 I talked about when we passed the HCRA bill

                 last fall and we dumped about $600 million

                 worth of additional expense onto the counties

                 of this state, and I got up and said, "Listen,

                 it's mandate relief.  If you really believe in

                 mandate relief, why would you pass this HCRA

                 bill that poses this huge new mandate on the

                 counties?"

                            I said it that time, but I hoped we

                 would forgo the debate about Senator Rath's

                 mandate relief bill, because we were clearly

                 doing something that was grossly inconsistent

                 with the passage of this bill.

                            Everybody in this house seems to be

                 comfortable with the illusion that we pass a

                 mandate relief bill every year, but yet we

                 continue to dumps millions and millions and

                 millions of dollars of mandates onto our local

                 communities.

                            I'm willing to go along with the

                 illusion, but let's admit it's an illusion.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    How do

                 you vote, Senator?





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                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    I vote aye.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger will be recorded in the affirmative.

                            The Secretary will announce the

                 results.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 49.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 753, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 7463, an

                 act to amend the Insurance Law, in relation to

                 penalty provisions.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 50.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 792, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 7774, an

                 act to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in





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                 relation to the apportionment of school taxes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 50.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 825, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 3435, an

                 act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules,

                 in relation to the unsworn affirmation of

                 truth.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 January.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 50.





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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 837, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 6925, an

                 act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

                 assault upon a police officer.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 November.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Duane, to explain his vote.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I just would be remiss if I didn't

                 point out that once again this body seems to

                 feel that an assault is not always just an

                 assault, that in some cases an assault is

                 worthy of a stiffer penalty.

                            I'm going to vote yes on this, but

                 I want to point out that we do have a track





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                 record in this body of increasing penalties

                 for assaults against police officers and

                 senior citizens and persons with mental

                 disabilities, and yet we are unable to vote

                 into law laws which more severely punish those

                 who create an atmosphere where hate crimes are

                 permitted and where hate crimes are committed.

                            I'm going to vote yes, Mr.

                 President, with the hope that this body will

                 be consistent and pass meaningful hate crimes

                 legislation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Duane will be recorded in the affirmative.

                            The Secretary will announce the

                 results.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 50.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 862, by Senator Alesi, Senate Print 97, an act

                 to amend the Executive Law, in relation to

                 prohibiting state agencies from offering loans

                 to their employees.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.





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                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 90th day after it

                 shall have become a law.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 50.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 871, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 3691, an

                 act to amend the Executive Law, in relation to

                 the statewide computerized registry.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 30th day after it

                 shall have become a law.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 50.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number





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                 872, by Senator McGee, Senate Print 4322, an

                 act to amend the New York State Urban

                 Development Corporation Act.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 52.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 875, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 6767, an

                 act to amend the Executive Law, in relation to

                 increasing the term of notaries public from

                 two years to four years.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 60th day after it

                 shall have become a law.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.





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                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 52.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            Senator Skelos, that completes the

                 reading of the noncontroversial calendar.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 if we could take up the controversial calendar

                 at this time.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the controversial

                 calendar.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 211, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 3597B,

                 an act to amend the Administrative Code of the

                 City of New York.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Explanation,

                 please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Padavan, an explanation has been requested of

                 Calendar 211 by Senator Duane.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            Over the years we have been

                 proactive in helping the City of New York,





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                 particularly the Buildings Department, in

                 enforcing code violations, particularly those

                 that relate to the illegal conversion of

                 dwellings which produce both hazardous

                 conditions, resulting in fires, people getting

                 killed in attics that have been converted to

                 apartments and basements with no exits and so

                 on.

                            We did that in a variety of ways.

                 We raised the potential fines.  We authorized

                 a more effective means of serving violations

                 known as "nail and mail."  We required that

                 Con Edison not issue -- or not install

                 additional meters without the owner of the

                 property producing a Certificate of Occupancy

                 which would indicate clearly that it is a

                 multiple dwelling, two- or three-family.

                            And many more fines have been

                 issued by the Environmental Control Board

                 which administers this process.

                 Unfortunately, we have many individuals who

                 just ignore those fines.  As a result of

                 which, the very goals that we set out to

                 achieve are not being met.

                            And so what this bill would do





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                 would be to allow for a tax lien against the

                 property to the extent of those unpaid fines

                 issued by the Environmental Control Board.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Duane.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Would the sponsor

                 yield to a couple of questions?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Padavan, do you yield for a question?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I want to frame

                 my question by voicing my concern.  My concern

                 is that a tenant, particularly in an SRO,

                 though I understand it's only -- I believe it

                 only applies to wood-frame SROs.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes, it does.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    If a tenant

                 complained about conditions in the building or

                 if they thought there was a violation, are the

                 tenants who live in these SROs in any way

                 protected by rent protection or tenant

                 protections?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Well,





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                 obviously, we do have Housing Court, which

                 deals with protecting tenants in a variety of

                 areas.  They would have redress there.

                            But I don't quite understand the

                 nature of the question in regard to the

                 Buildings Department and enforcement of the

                 Building Code and the zoning resolution.

                 That's what, fundamentally, we're dealing

                 with.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would continue to

                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Padavan, do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I agree with the

                 concept of the legislation, and I probably

                 will be voting yes on it.

                            But I've found that oftentimes if a

                 tenant voices a complaint in a building, what

                 happens is if the tenant is not guaranteed the

                 ability to sign a new lease through tenant

                 protection, that the landlord can retaliate by





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                 refusing to renew the lease for a tenant in

                 this kind of a dwelling.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    That may be

                 true, Senator, but it's totally unrelated to

                 this bill.  That issue has no bearing

                 whatsoever on the enforcement of the Building

                 Code and zoning resolution by the issuance of

                 fines by the Environmental Control Board.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would continue to

                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Padavan, do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I am interested

                 to know whether or not the tenants in these

                 single-room-occupancy buildings are protected

                 by rent protection, if they're either

                 rent-stabilized SRO tenants or not.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    I presume they

                 are.  But again, I don't understand the

                 relevance to this bill.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.





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                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Do you

                 wish the sponsor to continue to yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Padavan continues to yield.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Well, if the

                 level of punishment for the landlord is being

                 raised, I believe that that would probably

                 make that landlord angry and the landlord

                 could take that anger out on a tenant who

                 brought the violations to the Building

                 Department's attention.

                            And if the tenant is not protected,

                 they could potentially lose their home because

                 they did the right thing by complaining about

                 a Building Code violation.

                            So that's basically what my concern

                 is, whether or not the sponsor believes that

                 most of the buildings, the SROs covered in

                 this legislation have enough units that they

                 would be covered by New York State's

                 rent-stabilization laws for SROs.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Under the

                 rent-stabilization law, under the





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                 configuration of the Housing Court, which is

                 of course aggressively pursued by not only

                 agencies under the jurisdiction of the City of

                 New York but also entities that work with

                 tenants, their rights to continue as a tenant

                 are fully protected, irrelevant to making a

                 complaint for any reason.

                            They could be making a complaint

                 for lack of heat -- which, as you know, the

                 city would then act upon -- lack of

                 maintenance, problems relevant to their

                 security deposit.  There are a lot of things

                 that tenants complain about, none of which can

                 result in a punitive action by the landlord

                 against them, either in terms of services or

                 in terms of renewal of their lease.

                            Neither would that be the case

                 here.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you.

                            Mr. President, on the bill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Duane, on the bill.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I'm going to vote

                 in favor of this.  But if it is also passed by

                 the Assembly and becomes law, I would like to





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                 make sure that we watch and make sure that

                 there isn't an additional level of harassment

                 of tenants if they do make complaints about

                 these buildings.

                            I certainly understand and agree

                 with forcing a landlord to pay their fines by

                 using a lien.  But I'm also concerned that the

                 tenants in those situations are made aware of

                 their rights under the law to remain in their

                 homes.

                            I have seen too many cases of

                 tenants who have lost their homes, signed bad

                 stipulations because they didn't know their

                 rights under the law.

                            And I just think every time we add

                 an additional burden onto landlords, that

                 sometimes that causes some of them to take out

                 that anger at being forced to keep to the law

                 on tenants that are oftentimes unrepresented

                 in Housing Court or don't even make it to

                 Housing Court before they lose their homes.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Lachman.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Mr. President,





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                 will the -

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Lachman, could I interrupt you a moment?

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 there will be an immediate meeting of the

                 Civil Service Committee in the Majority

                 Conference Room.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

                 Immediate meeting of the Civil Service

                 Committee in the Majority Conference Room.

                            Senator Lachman, I apologize.  You

                 have the floor.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Yes, thank you,

                 Mr. President.

                            Through you, Mr. President, will

                 the Senator yield for a question?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Padavan, do you yield for a question?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    I believe I

                 know the answer to this question, but I want

                 it for the record only because the title for





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                 this bill could give an erroneous impression:

                 "Provides for the enforcement of judgments and

                 violations of the Building Code by the New

                 York State Environmental Control Board as tax

                 liens against the property."  Even the squib

                 that goes along with it isn't that clear.

                            But I assume, Senator, that you are

                 not referring to any stores or shops, their

                 signage, their canopies -

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Senator, if you

                 read the -

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Yes, I have.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    -- the bill

                 itself, it deals with judgments against an

                 owner for a Building Code violation in respect

                 to (A) a private dwelling; (B) a wooden frame,

                 single-room-occupancy multiple dwelling or (C)

                 a dwelling with a legal occupancy of three or

                 fewer dwellers.

                            So clearly it deals with dwelling

                 units.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Okay, good.  I

                 just wanted it for the record because when we

                 received this, you could not tell what the

                 bill was about.





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                            I knew you would give me that

                 answer.  I wanted it on the record.  Thank you

                 kindly.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    You're welcome.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Hevesi.

                            SENATOR HEVESI:    Mr. President,

                 on the bill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Hevesi, on the bill.

                            SENATOR HEVESI:    Thank you.

                            Mr. President, I appreciate Senator

                 Duane's comments and concerns about the

                 potential for punitive action taken by an

                 owner against a tenant who notifies the

                 Buildings Department that there are potential

                 violations.

                            But unfortunately, an owner can do

                 that right now.  And I'm not sure that this

                 legislation would cross that threshold to

                 increase the chances that a landlord is going

                 to take some kind of negative action.  And if

                 the landlord did that, there could be redress

                 in the courts, as Senator Padavan points out.

                            But what this legislation certainly





                                                          3264



                 will do is finally provide some teeth, some

                 enforcement teeth that has been absolutely

                 lacking for years and years on two levels.

                 One is in the determination of the Buildings

                 Department of the City of New York to

                 aggressively pursue these violations.  And two

                 is their lack of adequate mechanisms with

                 which to pursue that enforcement.  This

                 remedies the second of those problems.

                            So I commend Senator Padavan for

                 bringing this legislation.  I hope that the

                 Assembly sees fit to pass this, because we

                 have the unfortunate situation, particularly

                 in Queens -- and this affects many of my

                 constituents in a number of the communities in

                 which I represent -- where owners simply

                 ignore the violations.  They absolutely ignore

                 them.

                            And it is with that audacity that

                 they continue to act as a consequence of there

                 being no deterrent factor in the law.  And we

                 have the unfortunate situation periodically of

                 seeing fires in homes where there are illegal

                 occupancies, and they're risking people's

                 lives.





                                                          3265



                            So this legislation is a solid

                 piece of legislation.  It provides an

                 enforcement tool that is necessary to remedy a

                 problem that everybody knows exists and we

                 have been frustrated with for a very long time

                 in not being able to go after these

                 recalcitrant owners.

                            This is a good piece of

                 legislation.  I urge all of my colleagues to

                 support it.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect in 90 days.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            Senator Skelos, that completes the

                 controversial calendar.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 is there any housekeeping at the desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Yes,





                                                          3266



                 there is.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            On page 57, I offer the following

                 amendments to Calendar Number 765, Senate

                 Print 7725, and ask that said bill retain its

                 place on the Third Reading Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received, and the bill will

                 retain its place on the Third Reading

                 Calendar.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Thank you.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Could we just

                 stand at ease for a few minutes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Senate will stand at ease.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

                 ease at 11:32 a.m.)

                            (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

                 at 11:44 a.m.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator





                                                          3267



                 Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Can you at this

                 time recognize Senator Montgomery.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Montgomery.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes.  Mr.

                 President, I would like unanimous consent to

                 be recorded in the negative on Calendar 837.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Without

                 objection, Senator Montgomery will be recorded

                 in the negative on Calendar 837.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President, I

                 believe that there is a privileged resolution

                 at the desk by Senator Marchi.  I would ask

                 that it be read in its entirety and move for

                 its immediate adoption.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the privileged resolution

                 in its entirety.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 Marchi, Legislative Resolution Number 3480,

                 paying tribute to the memory of Malcolm





                                                          3268



                 Wilson, esteemed former Governor, Lieutenant

                 Governor, and Assemblyman of the State of New

                 York.

                            "WHEREAS, This Legislative Body was

                 saddened by the news of the March 13, 2000,

                 death at age 86 of Malcolm Wilson, the 50th

                 Governor of New York and 15-year Lieutenant

                 Governor during the administration of the late

                 Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller; and

                            "WHEREAS, Governor Wilson, as an

                 Assemblyman for 20 years, as a Lieutenant

                 Governor for 15 years, and as Governor for 13

                 months, figured importantly in the life and

                 history of New York State, in a career devoted

                 to service to his state and to his nation; and

                            "WHEREAS, Malcolm Wilson's imprint

                 on New York State history is documented in

                 many ways, including his sponsorship of 432

                 bills which became law during his tenure as an

                 Assemblyman, which began with his election to

                 the Assembly from Yonkers in 1938, at age 24;

                 and

                            "WHEREAS, Those laws ranged across

                 the spectrum of important public interest.

                 They included one which created the Higher





                                                          3269



                 Education Assistance Corporation, providing a

                 state-guaranteed loan program for students

                 going to private or public colleges.  Another

                 extended Social Security coverage to public

                 employees.  And yet another provided Workers'

                 Compensation coverage for victims of silicosis

                 and other dust diseases; and

                            "WHEREAS, Malcolm Wilson's legacy

                 as an Assemblyman also included a post-World

                 War II bill which gave preference in public

                 housing to war veterans and tax exemptions for

                 seriously disabled war veterans, and produced

                 Wilson-sponsored laws to combat dishonest

                 salesmen, to attack debt-consolidation con

                 artists, to help rehabilitate prisoners who

                 were on parole, and to crack down on crooked

                 gamblers who sought to bribe athletes; and

                            "WHEREAS, long before public

                 interest turned to environmental protection,

                 Malcolm Wilson authored 18 laws to improve the

                 ecology.

                            "The professionalism, friendly

                 demeanor and humility which helped make him

                 one of the great legislators in New York

                 history served Malcolm Wilson well when he





                                                          3270



                 became Lieutenant Governor in 1959.

                            "In his years with Nelson

                 Rockefeller, Governor Wilson helped formulate

                 and advance the progressive programs which

                 helped New York earn and maintain its

                 reputation as the Empire State.  Among the

                 programs he helped conceive and foster were

                 some of the landmark creations of the

                 Rockefeller years -- the Pure Waters Program,

                 the Statewide Transportation Improvement

                 Program, Medical Assistance for the Poor, the

                 State University Expansion Program, and the

                 Bundy Aid Program to help private college and

                 university students; and

                            "WHEREAS, It was Malcolm Wilson who

                 persuaded Governor Rockefeller to press

                 President Nixon for federal revenue sharing to

                 help states that were in financial straits

                 during the 1970s.  The federal revenue sharing

                 legislation and law grew out of extensive

                 negotiations, involving, among others,

                 Governor Rockefeller, then-Congressman Hugh

                 Carey, U.S. House of Representatives Ways and

                 Means Chairman Wilbur Mills, and then-New York

                 Lieutenant Governor Malcolm Wilson.





                                                          3271



                            "Both houses of the Legislature

                 benefited from his years in Albany as

                 Assemblyman, Lieutenant Governor and Governor,

                 but it was during his tenure as Lieutenant

                 Governor that he enhanced the dimensions of

                 the New York State Senate as its presiding

                 officer.

                            "Governor Wilson's skills as a

                 parliamentarian and problem-solver, evident in

                 his knowledgeable, firm and genial rulings

                 from the chair of the Senate, alternately

                 impressed, educated, amused and dazzled

                 legislators, visitors and members of the press

                 who witnessed them and wondered whether it was

                 really Mr. Wilson who wrote Robert's Rules of

                 Order.

                            "Governor Wilson was so

                 knowledgeable as a presiding officer that he

                 never experienced a reversal of any ruling he

                 made from the chair; and

                            "WHEREAS, The New York Times,

                 taking note of his speaking and parliamentary

                 skills, once reported:  'Mr. Wilson has

                 presided over the Senate as if it were as

                 manageable as an amusing desk-top ant farm ...





                                                          3272



                 He regularly has settled rules conflicts

                 against the Senate (Democratic) minority with

                 such artful legalese that on one occasion the

                 Democrats had to applaud even as they

                 complained that he was changing the shape of

                 the bat and ball in midgame'; and

                            "WHEREAS, While he was presiding

                 over the Senate, Malcolm Wilson's legend as

                 the ultimate government professional drew much

                 from his special persona and style:  his

                 crewcut hair, his thin neckties, and his

                 deliberate, tongue-in-cheek use of

                 multi-syllable words and quotations from

                 classical Latin writers -- all of them

                 elements of his role in making the Senate

                 chamber a forum not only for debate, but also

                 for good humor and admirable erudition.

                            "Governor Wilson also occupied a

                 position of national prestige among his

                 government peers through which he rose to many

                 intrastate and nationwide leadership posts,

                 including the presidency of the National

                 Association of Lieutenant Governors.

                            "While government service was the

                 passion of his public life, Malcolm Wilson's





                                                          3273



                 private life was equally satisfying, because

                 of the love and support of his late wife,

                 Katharine McCloskey, who he married on

                 September 6, 1941, and who died in 1980; their

                 two daughters, Kathy (Mrs. John M. Conroy) and

                 Anne (Mrs. Lester G. Matthews); and six

                 grandsons; and

                            "WHEREAS, Malcolm Wilson prepared

                 for his life in the law and government by

                 graduating from Fordham Preparatory School,

                 Fordham College, and Fordham University Law

                 School, developing a proficiency in Latin,

                 Greek, the classics and law, which were on

                 display in admirable form throughout his life.

                            "Like others of what Tom Brokaw has

                 called 'The Greatest Generation,' Governor

                 Wilson enlisted in the U.S. Navy while he was

                 in his third term as an Assemblyman.  He was

                 commissioned an ensign in 1943 and oversaw a

                 gun crew on an ammunition ship that supported

                 landings of Allied forces at Normandy on D-Day

                 in 1944 and at Anzio in January 1944.

                            "Even though he worked long days

                 and nights, Governor Wilson enjoyed some

                 hobbies.  He played golf, rode his bicycle on





                                                          3274



                 the streets near his home, and counted himself

                 an ardent fan of the New York Yankees.  A

                 longtime friend of New York Giants football

                 owner Wellington Mara, a fellow Fordham

                 graduate, Mr. Wilson was a season-ticket

                 holder for the Giants and kept an eye on both

                 the Jets and Buffalo Bills on television; and

                            "WHEREAS, It is the custom of this

                 Legislative Body to pay tribute to men and

                 women who have espoused and advanced the

                 public interest in New York State, Malcolm

                 Wilson truly merits such recognition.  Seldom

                 in New York's history has a public figure

                 served his state and his nation as well as he;

                 now, therefore, be it

                            "RESOLVED, That this Legislative

                 Body pause in its deliberations to consider

                 the many substantial contributions to the

                 public good made by the late Governor Malcolm

                 Wilson, to express its appreciation for those

                 achievements and to make its thanks a matter

                 of public record; and be it further

                            "RESOLVED, That a copy of this

                 resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted

                 to the family of Malcolm Wilson, with the





                                                          3275



                 prayers and sympathy of this Legislative

                 Body."

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Bruno.

                            SENATOR BRUNO:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            The resolution we just heard read

                 now becomes a permanent record in the archives

                 here in the history of New York State.  And

                 anyone that would ever want to in the future

                 review some of what went on in his life would

                 find that as part of the history of this

                 state.

                            And I rise really -- and there are

                 people here that knew him better, knew him

                 longer.  But I knew him when I was a staff

                 person, when I was a staff person in the

                 Assembly and he was Lieutenant Governor and

                 later became Governor.

                            And Kathy, his daughter, is here

                 with her husband, Jack Conroy.  And, Kathy, I

                 just want to tell you what anyone would say

                 that was exposed to Malcolm Wilson.  He was

                 just sincere, he was a gentleman, he was just

                 what we would think anyone in public service





                                                          3276



                 ought to be.

                            He time and time again would make

                 me and a lot of others like me a hero.

                 Because I'll never forget when I'd be there in

                 a crowd of four or five people and he'd come

                 over and he'd say, "Hi, Joe."  And people

                 would say, "Do you know him?  He knows you?

                 He knows your name?"

                            Well, I just left -- I don't think

                 they're in the room -- some retirees who are

                 in here lobbying for their COLA.  And I'm sure

                 that the Governor would be very supportive.

                 But one of the retirees worked in government,

                 as they all did.  And she said she worked in

                 the Budget Division, and he would walk in the

                 room with people and call them by name, call

                 her Cynthia.  And they were just overwhelmed.

                            Many of us kind of sometimes cover

                 up when we don't remember somebody, and we try

                 and just fake it.  But with him, as she said,

                 he didn't fake it.  Because he would say, "I

                 saw you out somewhere last week."

                            But I will never, ever forget I was

                 in Glens Falls, my hometown.  He was the

                 Governor.  He spoke at a Republican function





                                                          3277



                 up there.  And there were more people

                 assembled than they ever assembled in a little

                 community like Glens Falls.

                            I was sitting there, I was on

                 staff.  And this is something that I will

                 never, ever forget as long as I live.  I'm a

                 staff person.  The Governor is up front

                 speaking to hundreds of people in my hometown.

                 And as he opened his talk, he mentioned -- I

                 was in the back of the room -- my name, what I

                 did for Perry Duryea in the Assembly, and went

                 on literally for five minutes talking about my

                 contribution to state government, what I did

                 here.  And when I -- the papers printed all of

                 that.

                            And I've just got to tell you that

                 as -- I was once younger -- as a young person,

                 to sit there with my family, my colleagues, my

                 peers, people who were successful up there in

                 politics, to have the Governor single me out

                 and talk about me, not just as an

                 acknowledgment but at great length, if

                 anything elevated me to a position where I

                 could then have the confidence to run for

                 public office, it was probably that.





                                                          3278



                            And I said that to him at one time.

                 I had the privilege, when I was visiting with

                 him, of just saying, "You know, you would

                 never know the effect that you've had on so

                 many people whose lives you have touched with

                 your sincerity, with your being a real person,

                 which you're not being elevated and looking

                 down on people but just relating to them as

                 you would to anyone in your life."

                            That's something you don't forget.

                 And if I were crediting anyone that would

                 inspire me, it was Malcolm Wilson.

                            So, Kathy, I say that because there

                 are so many things that he did that are part

                 of this resolution.  But the people whose

                 lives he touched, they don't have an

                 opportunity to stand here and express it in

                 any public way.  But they are out there by the

                 tens of thousands, and I'm sure that you have

                 heard from them.  And as you go through your

                 life, you'll continue to hear from them.

                            And all we have to do is reflect on

                 the impact that he has made on people and the

                 impact that he made on this state, and words

                 don't have to go beyond just saying that New





                                                          3279



                 York State is the Empire State and is so much

                 better for his 38 years of service.

                            Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Marchi.

                            SENATOR MARCHI:    Mr. President,

                 Senator Bruno, I followed -- I had the same

                 experience.  I came here as a staff Senate -

                 not Senator, but back in 1953, 47 years ago.

                 And I met Malcolm Wilson for the first time

                 then.  And we became fast friends.

                            And all the things that Senator

                 Bruno mentioned were absolutely true.  When he

                 was up there, anyone having a problem -- and,

                 Senator Paterson, you might ask your father,

                 Basil, that on that side of the aisle they

                 would go right up to him and sit next to him

                 and say, "Gee, I like this bill, what do you

                 think?"  He'd say, "Well, it's not good for

                 you in your district."  Despite that it was

                 one of the bills that we were carrying and

                 wanted to see passed.

                            But he would say directly.  And he

                 would give anyone that went up there -- the

                 advice wouldn't be any better for any member





                                                          3280



                 of the Senate.  This is the way he treated

                 each and every member.

                            And so that what you said, Senator

                 Bruno, strikes a resonance that is so

                 identifiable with anyone having that kind of a

                 friendship.

                            As a legislator, as a person who

                 came here, left and served in combat during

                 World War Two, immediately on his return he

                 was reelected.  And he had to win that seat,

                 because it wasn't a Republican seat at the

                 time when he ran for the first time.  He won

                 and stayed on.

                            He was a superb parliamentarian.

                 We point out in the resolution that he was

                 never reversed.  And they say that's very

                 easy, because there were points that were

                 brought up.

                            I remember very clearly when we

                 went into joint session with the Assembly.

                 And Senator Brydges was then the chair.  And

                 we had decided that we would stress the point

                 that there were -- that's why it's never been

                 revisited again -- we were -- with 60 Senators

                 and 150 Assemblymen, we ought to have weighted





                                                          3281



                 voting.  At that point we already had the

                 weighted-voting principle.

                            And so pursuant to that reasoning,

                 Senator Brydges said -- and we were debating a

                 joint resolution of the two houses.  I believe

                 it was on the selection of a Regent.  And that

                 may strike -- strikes a comparison.  And so he

                 said, "Well, if we had that, the equation

                 would be a little different.  And we have

                 one-man-one-vote.  Why not?  So I move that

                 we -- the our method be altered to reflect

                 that."

                            And he said, "No, you're out of

                 order."  He said, "The one-man-one-vote

                 rule" -- or one person, as was later correctly

                 politically stated -- he said, "it doesn't

                 apply.  The Constitution says that they all

                 assemble and they take a collective vote from

                 the two houses."

                            We appealed that.  It went to the

                 Court of Appeals, and we lost.  We can never

                 repeat that again.  I mean, there's a very

                 heavy preponderance of evidence.

                            That's how -- how precise and

                 particular.  And his judgment was so





                                                          3282



                 excellent.  He -- his mastery of language, the

                 recitation that he studied Latin and Greek -

                 and he did this with great distinction in his

                 academic background -- reminds me of another

                 good friend Bill Buckley, who has that same

                 propensity, whether you agree with him or not,

                 for the use, precise use of words for what

                 they mean.  And Malcolm Wilson was that kind

                 of an individual.

                            Nationally, he was chairman of the

                 Lieutenant Governors.  Which doesn't really

                 state the whole case, because every state

                 doesn't have a lieutenant governor.  But I can

                 tell you this.  In the early days of the

                 Council of State Governments -- and I've been

                 on their executive committee since 1965.  But

                 before then, even, I met people of all hues

                 going way back.

                            He was known nationally, he was a

                 national figure, because he was the one

                 authority that they would repair to in matters

                 of historical, governmental interest, history.

                 And he was the one they repaired to from all

                 of the fifty states.  That was the measure of

                 the individual and the esteem with which he





                                                          3283



                 was held.

                            He ran for Governor in -- when he

                 lost to Governor Carey, who was a friend and

                 was very helpful.  There was a reciprocal

                 friendship and help at that time, even.  But

                 it was a very -- kind of a trough that year

                 that the Republican Party was in, and it was

                 not auspicious.

                            But I can tell you the enormous

                 significance -- we've had lieutenant

                 governors, and we have a very lovely one now,

                 and she's very good.  But no one, no one could

                 match the gifts and what -- the impact and the

                 input that he had with Nelson Rockefeller.

                            Now, I know many of you will whiz

                 around Albany and going from where Hughie

                 lives, where Senator Farley lives, all the way

                 around, and go to different restaurants and

                 hotels and attend functions.  We wouldn't have

                 been able to do that in the old days when we

                 first came up, because we were very -- we were

                 distant, and it was very slow getting around

                 Albany.

                            But he had an immediate impact.

                 And he -- at that time the Republicans were





                                                          3284



                 even in a worse trough than at the time that

                 he himself had run.  And this is in 1958.

                            Averill Harriman was not a poor

                 governor.  I knew him.  I would not say I was

                 very friendly with him.  But the odds were

                 that he might be the next president of the

                 United States.  That was the -- that was the

                 thinking in some of the political equations

                 when we were doing bills under Governor

                 Harriman.

                            But Nelson Rockefeller was taken

                 around to each and every member, and when

                 they -- I don't know how many of you have

                 known Nelson Rockefeller, but he had a magic

                 that was unique and a gift that was amazing,

                 and could command staff.

                            He supplemented his staff.  I don't

                 know whether it's legal today.  But, I mean,

                 the Kissingers and the rest of them that came

                 on were all developed by him and served with

                 the administration, and we performed wondrous

                 things.

                            Raised a few taxes along the way,

                 but we have probably the most complete

                 infrastructure in the United States in terms





                                                          3285



                 of the State University, which was virtually

                 nonexistent.

                            All of these things, Malcolm Wilson

                 was there every time.  I can say that having

                 participated in endless conferences.  I would

                 go with Senator Brydges, Senator Anderson, and

                 myself to breakfast for weeks on end during

                 the days of the session at the invitation of

                 the Governor, and he would have Bill Ronan, he

                 would have sometimes even the -- Bill Ronan

                 and the -- oh, our comptroller, who was -

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Levitt.

                            SENATOR MARCHI:    Levitt, Arthur

                 Levitt.  Levitt and -- and the attorney

                 general would also be kidding each other all

                 the time.  But there were people that would

                 come in, and the scenario would change.

                            But I remember I was there all the

                 time.  Malcolm Wilson attended each and every

                 one.

                            And he would consult with Malcolm,

                 and there was this interplay.  The ultimate

                 decision was Nelson Rockefeller.  But I can

                 tell you that there was no one in the state of

                 New York or indeed the planet earth that had





                                                          3286



                 the impact that he did, Malcolm Wilson, on the

                 formulation of gubernatorial policy, the

                 responsibilities devolving on the chief

                 executive of this state that he had.

                            So he had the information, he had

                 the logic, he had the powers of suasion.  All

                 of these gifts he manifested with a total

                 devotion.  He was not trying to upstage

                 anybody.

                            If he had carved a niche for his

                 own and he was thinking of himself, he might

                 have done that, and maybe he would have

                 profited by it later on.  But he was totally,

                 totally devoted, totally devoted to the

                 success of the administration and his good

                 offices.

                            And this was a friendship.  This

                 was not a superior and someone that -- a

                 dependent.  This was an individual who out of

                 great friendship, which was heartily

                 reciprocated by the Governor, enabled things

                 to change in such dramatic ways.  And we enjoy

                 the benefits of it, I think, in terms of

                 enormous strides that were made during that

                 period.





                                                          3287



                            So it's -- it's -- when he left

                 office, some of you have met him.  And I

                 believe -- well, you mentioned -- several of

                 you have mentioned the fact that you'd seen

                 him at our Senate Club dinners.  And he always

                 made them as long as he could.  And they're

                 having another one.  And I was speaking to the

                 chairman, Mega, who said that it's -- we're

                 sorry that -- you know, I don't think he was

                 there last year.  But he had been there two

                 years ago.  Stachowski was present at the

                 time.

                            So I offer this, I offer this for

                 the spirit in which it's tendered and for

                 years of very close personal friendship, which

                 I treasure.

                            And that should be in the archives

                 and the records of this state, all the

                 numerous bills that he promoted, the

                 numerous -- well, his own bills, for instance,

                 Bundy Aid to Higher Education Assistance,

                 where students -- we had our millionth

                 graduate about four or five years ago from the

                 State University.

                            He created the framework as an





                                                          3288



                 Assemblyman so that this method of rising

                 would be put in place and supporting the

                 effort of the expansion of the State

                 University to the great service, educational

                 and academic service that it is rendering to

                 the people of this nation.

                            I'm pleased that Kathy and Jack

                 Conroy are here.  And there are grandchildren,

                 there are people who are the conservators of

                 this great heritage on a very personal,

                 familial basis.

                            And knowing that and being aware of

                 the love and esteem and affection with which

                 your father was held, I -- it has to be a

                 renewal of the experience which you have in

                 all of your waking moments.  And I remember

                 your mother so well.  I mean, it -- it's

                 moving to talk about it.

                            But we are very, very happy that we

                 can do this.  The capricious nature of the

                 logistics of legislation and the time after

                 the budget, we would have been more numerous

                 at this point.  But the feeling was there.

                 The feeling was there, and not only within our

                 state.  There are still people, when I move





                                                          3289



                 around a bit and meet others from elsewhere,

                 who remind me of that fact.

                            So we know that he was -- his

                 spiritual strength was great and that he's up

                 there with your mother.  And I think he's

                 looking down, and they're both smiling their

                 approval.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Stafford.

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            As Governor Wilson often used to

                 say, anything that I could add would deserve

                 little more than a footnote.  Today this is

                 true for me.  But it was not true for Malcolm

                 Wilson.

                            I could go on in the same vein as

                 Senator Bruno, the same vein as Senator

                 Marchi.  But when the Governor would travel to

                 throughout the state, it was just amazing the

                 people that knew him.  And he knew them, and

                 he talked directly to them, person to person.

                            He never appeared to be in a hurry

                 when a person would come up to talk with him.

                 He had time, and he listened.  Yet he of





                                                          3290



                 course was efficient.  He would move on, but

                 he always had that way about giving everybody

                 the time of day.  Sometimes many of us get in

                 a hurry and we just move on.

                            As I say, I could go on along the

                 lines of Senator Bruno and Senator Marchi, but

                 I would also point out that very often, very

                 often so much was done -- and this is in line

                 with what Senator Marchi said -- that really

                 it was Malcolm Wilson that should have

                 received credit for so much.  But he always,

                 always was very humble, did not push himself

                 into the limelight.  When he would travel

                 throughout the state, he wanted it very

                 low-key.

                            And that was true when he was

                 Governor.  He didn't want to make a big

                 splash, so to speak.  He wanted to be sincere

                 and he wanted to be -- as we would say, give

                 everybody an opportunity.

                            An orator?  One would find no

                 better orator.

                            I have to also mention, myself -

                 just as it's going to be mentioned today after

                 I speak, it was mentioned before I'm





                                                          3291



                 standing -- and that is the help that he gave

                 all of us as young candidates.  It's amazing,

                 I can remember in 1965 him coming to

                 Plattsburgh and taking you by the hand, so to

                 speak, literally by the hand, and taking you

                 around with him.

                            And we were so fortunate.  We were

                 so fortunate.  I could go on and on, but I

                 won't.  But I would say he always had time,

                 Malcolm Wilson always had time for everyone.

                 And when people were speaking with him, he was

                 thinking and giving them responses.  He was

                 just not there appearing to listen.

                            Finally, Mr. President, I would

                 say, as will be said many times here today,

                 the state of New York is a better place

                 because Malcolm Wilson was with us.  It's

                 wonderful that members of his family are here,

                 Kathy and Jack.

                            I would say this, that when he

                 presided -- I think Senator Marchi said

                 that -- he presided with equanimity and he

                 always, always, if he had something to

                 explain, he would get the person aside and

                 say, This is why I have to do this, this is





                                                          3292



                 why I have to do that.

                            We're all here today, and there's

                 no forum that is more fitting to have this

                 eulogy or to be speaking of Malcolm Wilson

                 than the New York State Senate, because he was

                 so proud to preside.  He enjoyed every minute

                 of it.

                            And, Mr. President, as I said

                 earlier, New York State is much better because

                 Malcolm Wilson was an Assemblyman, Malcolm

                 Wilson was a Lieutenant Governor, he presided

                 over the Senate.

                            And I remember a eulogy that he

                 gave for Senator Barrett down on Long Island

                 when Senator Barrett passed on.  And he

                 concluded his remarks about Senator Barrett by

                 stating, "He was a man."

                            Governor Wilson was a man.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Goodman.

                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Mr. President,

                 we often say that we love someone and we use

                 the term loosely.  In the case of Malcolm

                 Wilson, I think I can say that he was the most

                 beloved Senator or person involved with the





                                                          3293



                 Senate of anyone I knew in my 32 years in this

                 body.

                            Malcolm Wilson was an extraordinary

                 individual of immense warmth and total

                 loyalty.  And I think it's worth reflecting on

                 a few of the remarkable things that he

                 contributed during his lifetime.

                            First of all, it may not generally

                 be known that Governor Rockefeller's first

                 campaign was a very difficult, uphill run.

                 Nelson Rockefeller, believe it or not, was an

                 underdog in that race.  And to get Nelson

                 Rockefeller well-launched, Malcolm Wilson took

                 out his automobile and drove Nelson

                 Rockefeller personally all around the state of

                 New York to introduce him to various county

                 chairmen around the state.

                            It was Malcolm's influence and

                 Malcolm's prestige which rubbed off on

                 Governor Rockefeller, who at the time was not

                 widely known and widely supported in the state

                 of New York.  By the time that tour had

                 concluded, he was launched, and the rest is

                 history.

                            Malcolm Wilson, in his role as the





                                                          3294



                 Lieutenant Governor, might just as well have

                 had a control panel and a steering wheel up

                 there at your podium, Mr. President, because

                 very frequently by remote control he steered

                 some of our best legislation to passage in

                 difficult times of great opposition, certain

                 measures which he favored.

                            He was a master parliamentarian.

                 No one has ever met his equal in that regard.

                 And he understood the very -- every muscle,

                 sinew, artery and vein in what makes the

                 Senate a body.  And from his podium he

                 invariably was able to control much in the

                 most gentle and affectionate way.

                            I recall one evening very late, it

                 must have been 4:00 a.m. in the morning, when

                 an Assemblyman arrived in this chamber,

                 entered by the far door.  It happened to be a

                 member of the Democratic party.  And with him

                 was a lady in a pair of lounging pajamas.

                 This was a distraction to the members, to say

                 the least.  And the Lieutenant Governor said,

                 "If the members will please focus totally upon

                 the next bill, it would assist in doing the

                 people's business."  Which naturally brought





                                                          3295



                 down the chamber, because there was a

                 diversion which might have distracted from the

                 people's business at that time.

                            Let it be said that Malcolm

                 Wilson's sense of humor was enormous.  I

                 remember he presided as the chairman of a

                 group known as the Micky Mouse Club.  I doubt

                 that any of you has ever heard of the Mickey

                 Mouse Club, but you should know that once a

                 year in this Capitol there gathered a group of

                 people who clandestinely arrived at Jack's

                 downtown wearing Mickey Mouse T-shirts under

                 their civilian clothes, and they would go to

                 the third floor of the restaurant, produce a

                 pair of mouse ears, and sing the Mickey Mouse

                 song, which at that time gained great

                 popularity:  M-I-C-K-E-Y, M-O-U-S-E, with

                 Malcolm Wilson leading the ceremony, and to

                 the delight of everyone.  This was a

                 nonpartisan group, and one of the memorable

                 and humorous episodes in Malcolm's long career

                 of goodwill and good spirit.

                            Malcolm was a sesquipedalian.  I

                 didn't know what that word meant until he

                 accused me of the same thing.  But





                                                          3296



                 "sesquipedalian" refers to multiple pedals or

                 feet on a paramecium, I believe.  But it's

                 generally used to describe someone who is very

                 loquacious and uses a lot of big words.

                 Malcolm loved the word "sesquipedalian" and

                 used it from time to time, even to describe

                 his own oratory, which was absolutely unique

                 in its eloquence.

                            I should also say that Malcolm was

                 a very major advisor in many instances where

                 his advice was sought and had great impact.  I

                 recall in my own campaign in New York City in

                 1977 for the mayoralty of the city, Malcolm

                 could not have been more helpful.  He

                 indicated the great difficulties I would face

                 running in a 9-to-1 Democrat-versus-Republican

                 environment.  He advised that at all times I

                 get a good night's sleep and maintain my

                 equilibrium and good spirit and sense of humor

                 in order to survive the experience.

                            It was only using that advice that

                 I think I was able to emerge from one of the

                 notable statistical fiascos in the history of

                 the Republican Party.

                            (Laughter.)





                                                          3297



                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Let it be said

                 that Malcolm, beyond his public service

                 career -- of course when he became Governor,

                 he carried out those responsibilities with

                 tremendous skill and dedication.  And it was

                 only due to the fact that the tide ran against

                 us, I think, that he was ultimately defeated

                 for Governor.

                            I do remember visiting him in his

                 office during that period and finding he was

                 writing personal handwritten notes to everyone

                 who had written him a congratulatory letter

                 when he succeeded Nelson Rockefeller when

                 Governor Rockefeller became Vice President.

                            I thought to myself, if he's going

                 to write every one of these people handwritten

                 notes, there'd be little time for any other

                 campaigning.  But somehow he managed to do it

                 all.

                            Finally, after he left office and

                 was an officer of a major bank in New York, I

                 went to see him and visited with him and had a

                 chance to listen to his reflections on his

                 years of public service.  He was a highly

                 respected bank executive at the time, but his





                                                          3298



                 sense of the importance of being publicly

                 available to perform true service to people

                 was at the very core of his being.

                            He was a statesman, he was a noble

                 man and a gentleman, and one whom I shall

                 never forget.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I rise to salute Governor Wilson.

                 Senator Bruno and Senator Marchi both knew him

                 as staff, going way back then.  I didn't know

                 him as staff; I couldn't get a job as staff

                 here.  But he was very, very instrumental in

                 me coming into the Senate.

                            He grew up in Yonkers and so forth

                 with all of my cousins, went through Fordham

                 Prep and Fordham Law School and Fordham with

                 all of my cousins, and knew all my family

                 well.  And consequently, he was very, very

                 helpful.

                            And I think it was significant what

                 you said, Senator Stafford, how he -- and

                 Senator Bruno also alluded to it -- how he





                                                          3299



                 paid attention to small and little people.

                 And he was very, very kind to me.  And let me

                 just say this.  And I worked as a regional

                 coordinator for his campaign for Governor, and

                 it didn't work out that well.

                            But when I ran for the Senate, I

                 was in a -- just to show his loyalty, I was in

                 a very vigorous Republican primary, and

                 Governor Wilson, former Governor Wilson, was

                 very, very active trying to help me in every

                 which way.  As a matter of fact, calling me

                 several times a week giving me advice and so

                 forth.  And I was able to survive that primary

                 and go on to defeat an incumbent to come into

                 the Senate.

                            But he was always so good to me and

                 wrote me all kinds of notes several times a

                 year.  And I recall that I'd tell him about my

                 children, and he did remember their names and

                 what they were doing.  And when my daughter

                 became a lawyer, he wrote me quite a note

                 saying how proud he was of Kathy and what a

                 wonderful thing that women make as lawyers.

                            And he was always so personal with

                 everyone, and such a kind man.





                                                          3300



                            And I just want to say something

                 about the Senate Club, because he had a

                 special relationship with this house.  And

                 every year at the Senate Club meeting, he was

                 the focal point of these Senators to come and

                 hear Malcolm Wilson, if you will, give a

                 history, almost, of this body and of this

                 state.

                            And he was truly a legend.  I never

                 served in this house while he presided.  But

                 I'll tell you, almost everything that is

                 written up there and every piece of procedure,

                 Malcolm Wilson devised and wrote and put into

                 the -- into all the rules of the Senate.

                            He certainly was an incredible man.

                 I think that something was said -- and so much

                 has been said by Senator Marchi and so many

                 others -- but he doesn't really get all the

                 credit for what he's done for this state.  He

                 was such a large presence.  Governor

                 Rockefeller was a very dynamic and charisma

                 type of person, but it was Malcolm Wilson that

                 used to get the nuts and bolts done.

                            And he was -- I'll tell you, as

                 a -- nobody, I don't think, will ever serve as





                                                          3301



                 lieutenant governor that had the influence and

                 the role that Governor Wilson did as

                 lieutenant governor.  And I don't think when

                 he became governor there was anybody that was

                 ever more qualified to be governor of this

                 state.  He knew all about state government.

                 And it was kind of a tragedy that he did not

                 get reelected.

                            Those were very tough years for

                 Republicans.  For those of us that recall, it

                 was the Watergate situation and the Republican

                 Party was almost thinking of disbanding.  And

                 he had to run in the middle of that, which was

                 a tragedy.

                            But I'll tell you, throughout this

                 state, and particularly in upstate New York,

                 everybody knew and loved Malcolm Wilson

                 because he was such a gentle and kind

                 individual.  I know that I'll miss him.

                            And I'll tell you, I wish he and

                 his family well.  You have a tremendous

                 heritage to live by, and what a great father

                 he was.  My best to you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Senator

                 Maltese.





                                                          3302



                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Listening to

                 Senator Farley and Senator Marchi, Senator

                 Goodman, and so many others, it brings so many

                 memories to mind.

                            It's true enough, I think it may be

                 trite in reference to others, but I think we

                 can safely say that his like will never be

                 seen again here.  And that is not to denigrate

                 or demean any that shall come in the future.

                 I think it's an indication of his stature and

                 the dimensions of the man.

                            I had occasion to work closely with

                 him in many campaigns, including his own in

                 1974.  And I remember how difficult it might

                 have seemed to an outside observer to run in a

                 year where -- the post-Watergate era, as

                 Senator Farley was talking about, for a

                 Republican to run.  And yet he never lost his

                 cheerful demeanor, his presence of mind.

                            And he was running here in New

                 York, I remember -- Ramsey Clark was running

                 for U.S. Senator that year, former Attorney

                 General of the United States.  Senator Jacob

                 Javits was running then.  And I was the

                 statewide coordinator for a young Vietnam War





                                                          3303



                 widow, Barbara Keating.

                            And I remember the first time that

                 Governor Wilson met her.  And he had known her

                 previously, because she had been a resident of

                 Larchmont.  And he went up to her and spoke

                 about her husband, her five children.  It's as

                 if he knew the entire family for many, many

                 years.  And she felt so much better after

                 that, and I think it energized her and

                 motivated her even more to think that such a

                 fine, distinguished gentleman could be running

                 for governor.

                            There are so many bills and so many

                 statutes that bear his name.  And listening to

                 the resolution, despite the fact that I

                 thought I knew so much about him, I learned

                 even more.  I'm glad in a way that the

                 Wilson-Pakula bill, the authorization bill,

                 bears his name when he was an assemblyman and

                 J. Irwin Pakula was a state senator, a good

                 many, many years ago.

                            And I think it's fitting, because

                 so many people look down on politics and the

                 political process, and yet here's Malcolm

                 Wilson, a giant of a man that certainly





                                                          3304



                 ennobles politics and the political picture.

                            Governor Wilson unfortunately, as

                 Senator Farley has said, ran in a year that

                 circumstances were against him.  There never

                 was anybody better suited, better fitted to be

                 governor.

                            I remember he -- I guess it was a

                 stock speech, because I had heard it -- and

                 yet you could never call any speech that

                 Governor Wilson gave a stock speech, because

                 he added to it and elaborated on it.  And I

                 never understood a good part of the Latin and

                 Greek and Italian and the other phrases.  I

                 guess the only one presently here that did is

                 Senator Marchi.  And yet he held everyone's

                 interest.  He held everyone's interest for

                 lengthy speeches.

                            And he certainly knew the 61

                 counties.  And he's been gone a while, so I

                 don't remember how many lakes and how many

                 rivers and how many small towns and cities

                 there were, but he had them all, and they were

                 at the tip of his tongue.

                            Certainly we lost a friend, we lost

                 a colleague, we lost a great man from New





                                                          3305



                 York.  And I'm so happy that he is in the

                 archives of the state and certainly in the

                 memories of all his colleagues here.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Senator

                 Leibell.

                            SENATOR LEIBELL:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            And it's been very interesting and

                 revealing to listen to the comments that have

                 gone before.

                            As Kathy may remember, as children,

                 we were children, you used to summer up at

                 Covewood Lodge at Big Moose Lake, and I would

                 be up there with my grandparents, frequently.

                 I can always remember your parents coming up

                 there with the girls to enjoy some time at the

                 lake.

                            And my grandfather, who was a

                 Democrat and a federal judge -- he'd been

                 Robert Wagner's law partner, the U.S.

                 senator -- had such a deep affection for your

                 father.  Of course they were both Fordham

                 graduates.  But he had the greatest affection,

                 love and respect for him and for your entire

                 family.  You were a wonderful family.





                                                          3306



                            And my own father, who had gone to

                 Fordham Prep with your dad, always told me

                 about Malcolm Wilson and kept in contact with

                 the Governor throughout the years as they grew

                 older.

                            And he told me of the times at

                 Fordham Prep whenever there was an important

                 occasion, whenever there was an opportunity

                 where they needed a student to come forward,

                 especially on the religious holidays, he said

                 to me, "Vincent, it was always Malcolm that

                 they would pick, because Malcolm was the

                 greatest orator that we had at the Prep."  And

                 of course that continued throughout his life.

                            And in later years, I again

                 rekindled my friendship with the Governor and

                 had the chance on many occasions to meet with

                 him.  And we would occasionally go out to

                 lunch, and I would send him the Red Book down

                 so he would be able to keep up with what was

                 going on here in Albany.

                            And I loved to spend time with him.

                 I used to go down with his former colleague,

                 Will Stephens, the assemblyman whose son is

                 now in the Assembly, and we would talk about





                                                          3307



                 politics and the events.

                            And as you've heard recounted here

                 today from so many of the members, this was a

                 most incredible man, all the little things

                 that people would note.  He'd always ask me

                 about family members, aunts and uncles he

                 hadn't seen in years but he knew them by

                 name -- my Aunt Molly, who lived on the West

                 Coast for decades.  He would ask about all the

                 family members and the relatives.

                            That showed his great sensitivity

                 to all of us as fellow residents of this

                 planet.  He had a great mind, he had a great

                 character.

                            There are those out there who would

                 say in this business that it's -- you don't

                 always find great people.  They're wrong.

                 There are many great people who have served in

                 this legislative body.  There are none greater

                 than Malcolm Wilson.

                            He is somebody whose memory we will

                 always cherish -- a great leader, a naval

                 officer, a member of this legislative body, a

                 lieutenant governor who, as was said was by my

                 colleague Hugh Farley, who ran the nuts and





                                                          3308



                 bolts in the government.  And to large extent

                 the state we have today, the character of this

                 state, is a reflection of that man.

                            We will deeply miss him.  We are

                 all much better for having known him and for

                 having loved him.  And our sympathies to the

                 family.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Senator

                 Padavan.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes, Madam

                 President.  So much has been said here that

                 it's virtually impossible to add in any

                 significant way.

                            However, I do feel that in every

                 walk of life and every endeavor and every

                 profession there is a standard that those in

                 those activities seek to achieve.  With all

                 due respect to lieutenant governors past and

                 present and future, while the standard is

                 there and the standard is Malcolm Wilson, no

                 one will ever achieve it in its ultimate form.

                            There are only a handful of

                 Senators here who had the privilege of being

                 in this chamber when Malcolm Wilson presided,

                 a handful who remain.  And you've heard from





                                                          3309



                 virtually all of them.  And I was one of them

                 for only one year, but I can tell you that

                 when I arrived in this chamber as a very new,

                 totally green state senator, to sit here -

                 and I sat right there -- looking up and

                 listening to Malcolm Wilson, it was just

                 overwhelming.

                            I'd never heard the kinds of things

                 that came from his mouth.  Not only in the

                 rulings and in the adjudications and in the

                 ways that he handled this chamber, but in his

                 personal demeanor.

                            And of course as we got to know

                 each other over that period of time, and later

                 on as governor, it was just an amazing

                 experience.

                            However, I think I must share with

                 you, because I would be remiss if I didn't,

                 when I first sought the opportunity to run for

                 the State Senate, that venture was not greeted

                 overwhelmingly by everyone, because I came

                 from the Lindsay administration.  And Lindsay

                 Republicans were not viewed with great

                 enthusiasm at that time.

                            But someone got ahold of Malcolm





                                                          3310



                 Wilson, and somehow we got together and

                 whatever I did or however I did it, I made an

                 impression upon him.  And what he did

                 thereafter would take too much time to

                 discuss, and I don't know if I really want to

                 explain it all.

                            But I can tell you categorically,

                 without any question, without his advocacy I

                 would not have been a candidate and I would

                 not be here today.  And I don't know if anyone

                 else in this chamber can say that.

                            And over the years, as we continued

                 to serve and run for office, Malcolm Wilson's

                 guidance and notes and personal conversations,

                 the occasions we would meet, particularly the

                 Senate Club dinner, he was always an

                 inspiration to me.

                            Governor Rockefeller was a great

                 man.  His legacy exists throughout this state,

                 as others have spoken to.  But I think we

                 would all agree that if Rockefeller did not

                 have a lieutenant governor like Malcolm

                 Wilson, who ran the state in so many different

                 ways, as you've heard -- there isn't any

                 agency anywhere in any part of state





                                                          3311



                 government that he did not have an intimate

                 knowledge of.

                            If Rockefeller had not had the

                 benefit of that kind of lieutenant governor, I

                 don't believe that he would have been able to

                 achieve all the things that he set out to

                 achieve and accomplished.  And obviously that

                 has been established here as a fact as well.

                            We are all much better people for

                 having known him.  And those of you who didn't

                 know him, hopefully today in the things you've

                 heard and perhaps in the things you will read

                 about in the future, you too will be inspired.

                            Thank you, Madam President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Senator

                 LaValle.

                            SENATOR LAVALLE:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            Like Senator Bruno and Senator

                 Marchi, I knew Governor Wilson as a staff

                 member.  And there is no doubt that his

                 intellect and his knowledge of both the budget

                 and the inner workings of state government

                 were well-known and today are legendary.

                            I have to, even though it's been





                                                          3312



                 brought up by Senator Padavan and other

                 speakers, I have to just talk a bit about his

                 presiding in this chamber.  As a staff member,

                 where -- there were little seats up in front

                 of the members' desks, and we would sit there.

                 And you would wonder -- at certain times when

                 there was a conflict, you would wonder what

                 was going to happen.  But without a bead of

                 perspiration or missing a beat, Malcolm Wilson

                 would bring a ruling.

                            And, you know, no one would contest

                 it, really.  I think Senator Marchi talked

                 about never being overridden.  Because I think

                 he had such deep respect on both sides of the

                 aisle.  And he was so knowledgeable.  He never

                 turned to counsel at his side.  He was really

                 the authority, as if he had written Robert's

                 Rules of Order.

                            But I got to know Governor Wilson

                 in 1974, during the creation of a reform of

                 the state aid formula.  Myself and Neil Foley

                 and Lois Wilson, no relation to the Governor,

                 were the three key staff members that worked

                 on the '74 formula.

                            And the first meeting that we went





                                                          3313



                 to, lo and behold, who was there but the

                 Governor himself.  And he's there with an

                 easel, and he's there using the broad strokes

                 of what he wanted in the formula.  Now, this

                 was a great surprise, because he differed in

                 style from his predecessor, who was a

                 delegator.

                            And Malcolm Wilson was clearly a

                 person who had such great knowledge and also

                 could be a knowledgeable staff member and

                 literally sat at a number of the meetings.

                 And it was very difficult for the staff to

                 move who had worked during the Rockefeller

                 years on education and state aid matters, to

                 now have the Governor physically seated at the

                 table.  And I must tell you, the knowledge

                 that the Governor had was absolutely

                 incredible.

                            And then finally, after he realized

                 that we had gotten the message as to what he

                 wanted, his final words were:  "Now, you know

                 I want you to strip the formula of all the

                 categorical aids.  I want you to make sure

                 that you close the gap between the

                 property-rich and the property-poor school





                                                          3314



                 districts."  And that's what we did in that

                 formula in 1974.

                            But Malcolm Wilson was so clearly

                 hands-on and knowledgeable about what was to

                 happen and in what form we were to proceed.

                            I met Malcolm Wilson campaigning

                 for election.  And the thing I was struck

                 about that -- I'm not sure it was mentioned

                 enough here -- is that he was at a dedication

                 of a pool in the town of Brookhaven, in which

                 we took a landfill site and made it into a

                 park with a community swimming pool.  And I

                 saw Malcolm Wilson, the campaigner, with

                 children on that day.  And I saw such a soft

                 side of Malcolm Wilson in dealing with those

                 kids and hugging them and dealing with them.

                            And as Senator Stafford or Senator

                 Marchi, in talking about the legacy and things

                 that he worked on and he was interested in -

                 the tuition assistance formula and Bundy,

                 making sure that the State University -- which

                 was a Rockefeller legacy, but to make sure

                 that that would continue on a proper track.

                            So we had a Governor who was

                 probably not only one of the most





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                 knowledgeable governors ever to serve in this

                 state, but I think a person who was truly a

                 humanitarian.

                            And the stories are legion on how

                 he wrote personal notes to people who were -

                 had faced some sort of adversity in their

                 lives and how he truly reached out.

                            And I'm sure that we don't

                 realize -- and today in listening to all the

                 reminiscences of various colleagues here -

                 that we don't realize enough that each day

                 that we serve in this Capitol, it is a piece

                 and a part of history.  And Malcolm Wilson

                 served here both as a member of the Assembly,

                 as Lieutenant Governor and Governor, and

                 really has etched his legacy in this Capitol,

                 in this government.

                            So to Malcolm's family and the

                 grandchildren, I am sure that you are all

                 terribly proud of his accomplishments.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Senator

                 Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            On behalf of the Minority Leader,





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                 Senator Connor, we extend our heartfelt

                 condolences of this Democratic Conference for

                 the contributions of Governor Wilson and for

                 all that he meant to the state.

                            I think that Senator Farley really

                 termed it best when he talked about the

                 nuts-and-bolts work that Lieutenant Governor

                 Wilson did many times in the Rockefeller

                 administration, where Governor Rockefeller was

                 charismatic and outgoing and obviously

                 controversial and someone the eye of the

                 camera may have focused on, but, as Senator

                 LaValle just referred to, some of the changes

                 in the formula for school aid and some of the

                 really dialectic work that was done between

                 1958 and 1973, and then in the one year that

                 Governor Wilson served as our Governor, up to

                 1974, that this is the real hard-core effort

                 that we certainly would expect from all of our

                 colleagues in the Senate and in government,

                 and that he truly embodied.

                            Many Senators got up today and

                 talked about the different ways that they met

                 him.  And what continued to ring through all

                 of the different presentations was his





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                 steadfast determination to listen to everyone

                 and to remember different things about them.

                 And there must have been at least seven or

                 eight references to his relationship with

                 children and how well he interacted with them.

                 And I have to say that I was one of them.

                            I met Lieutenant Governor Wilson

                 when I was here in this chamber when my father

                 served as state senator from 1965 to 1970.

                 And the first time I came in the chamber was

                 in 1966.  I was 11 years old.  And I sat on

                 one of those stools that Senator LaValle

                 referred to that they often let the staff or

                 the pages sit in, and sometimes they would let

                 the children of senators sit in those seats.

                 And I sat between my father and Senator

                 Wilson, who was Senator Jerome Wilson, who

                 went on to practice at Rogers and Wells.

                            And at the time the gondola on

                 which you stand, Madam President, was higher.

                 They've changed the contours of the chamber a

                 lot since then.  And at that time the acting

                 president of the Senate, Lieutenant Governor

                 Wilson, presided.  And I was very moved and

                 obviously had a great deal of reverence for





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                 this position and this person and the way he

                 dynamically handled parliamentary procedure.

                            At that time, the slow roll call in

                 the Senate was for Senators Adams, Anderson,

                 Brydges, Greenberg, and Zaretzki, Senator

                 Brydges being the Majority Leader and Senator

                 Zaretzki being the Minority Leader.

                            And at the end of the session, they

                 took me up to meet Lieutenant Governor Wilson,

                 which I thought at that point that I was going

                 to the Land of Oz.  To me, this was a big

                 moment, to meet the Lieutenant Governor.

                            Well, a couple of months later, I

                 came back at the end of the school year.  And

                 this was one of the first times that the

                 session went into July, in 1966.  And I'm

                 sitting on the stool again, and this time the

                 Lieutenant Governor came down to talk to me

                 and ask me about the rest of sixth grade.  And

                 so I was amazed that he would even notice me

                 in what seemed to be this sea of

                 intellectualism that he presided over in the

                 Senate.

                            I would meet Lieutenant Governor

                 Wilson again in 1970, when he defeated my





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                 father for lieutenant governor, in what would

                 be his fourth and last term prior to his

                 becoming governor, in November of 1970.  And

                 he wrote a very gracious letter to my father

                 after that campaign, one that he has saved

                 ever since.

                            And so I hope that the family of

                 Governor Wilson enjoyed the presentations

                 today and that they will receive some solace

                 and comfort and some inspiration from knowing

                 how many people from all different walks of

                 life and from all different services in

                 government revered and admired the work of

                 their family member, and how the contributions

                 that he made to the state will be followed and

                 emulated for generations.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    On the

                 resolution, all in favor signify by saying

                 aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    The

                 resolution is adopted.





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                            Senator Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Yes, Madam

                 President.

                            Senator Marchi would like to open

                 this resolution up to all the members for

                 cosponsorship.  Anyone not wishing to be a

                 sponsor, please indicate so to the desk.  If

                 that's okay.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    The

                 resolution is open for cosponsorship.  If you

                 do not wish to be a cosponsor, please notify

                 the desk.

                            Senator Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, is there any housekeeping at the

                 desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    No,

                 there is no housekeeping at the desk.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Well, the

                 fact that the house is clean is good.

                            There being no further business to

                 come before the Senate, I move we adjourn

                 until Monday, May 15th, at 3:00 p.m.,

                 intervening days being legislative days.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    On the





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                 motion, the Senate stands adjourned until

                 Monday, May 15th, at 3:00 p.m., intervening

                 days being legislative days.

                            (Whereupon, at 12:50 p.m., the

                 Senate adjourned.)