Regular Session - May 31, 2000

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                           NEW YORK STATE SENATE





                          THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD









                             ALBANY, NEW YORK

                               May 31, 2000

                                 2:45 p.m.





                              REGULAR SESSION







                 LT. GOVERNOR MARY O. DONOHUE, President

                 STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

















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                           P R O C E E D I N G S

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Senate will

                 come to order.

                            I ask everyone present to please

                 rise and repeat with me the Pledge of

                 Allegiance.

                            (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

                 the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    In the absence of

                 clergy, may we all bow our heads in a moment

                 of silence, please.

                            (Whereupon, the assemblage

                 respected a moment of silence.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Reading of the

                 Journal.

                            THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

                 Tuesday, May 30th, the Senate met pursuant to

                 adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday, May 27,

                 was read and approved.  On motion, Senate

                 adjourned.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Without

                 objection, the Journal stands approved as

                 read.

                            Presentation of petitions.

                            Messages from the Assembly.





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                            Messages from the Governor.

                            Reports of standing committees.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Lack,

                 from the Committee on Judiciary, reports the

                 following nominations:

                            As a justice of the Supreme Court

                 for the Seventh Judicial District, David D.

                 Egan, of Gates.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Lack.

                            SENATOR LACK:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.  I rise to move the nomination of

                 David D. Egan, of Gates, as a justice of the

                 Supreme Court for the Seventh Judicial

                 District.

                            We received the nomination from the

                 Governor for Judge Egan.  The staff of the

                 committee has examined the judge's

                 credentials.  They were perfectly in order.

                 He appeared in person before the committee

                 earlier this afternoon and was unanimously

                 moved to the floor.

                            And I most respectfully yield to

                 Senator Maziarz for purposes of a second.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Maziarz.





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                            SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Thank you very

                 much, Madam President.

                            Thank you, Senator Lack.

                            It's a great honor for me to get up

                 and second the nomination of Judge David Egan

                 of the Town of Gates.  I have known Judge Egan

                 just a short time, but I absolutely agree with

                 Governor Pataki's nomination.

                            David Egan has a long history in

                 the judiciary.  Before he became a lawyer, he

                 was a high school teacher and wanted an easy

                 job, so he went to law school and then became

                 a judge.  And as Your Honor knows -- I don't

                 know how much easier it is.

                            But seriously, Governor Pataki

                 could not, I think, have made a wiser choice

                 for the State Supreme Court in the Seventh

                 Judicial District.  Judge Egan has a great

                 background in the law.  He's got a great

                 family and a great group of supporters, I

                 know, in the town of Gates and in all of

                 Monroe County.

                            His wife, Joan, is here today, his

                 children, his grandchildren.  And it's a great

                 honor for them, and really it's a great honor





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                 for the people of the State of New York to

                 have such a fine individual selected by

                 Governor Pataki.

                            Thank you, Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The question is

                 on the nomination of David D. Egan, of Gates,

                 as a justice of the Supreme Court for the

                 Seventh Judicial District.  All in favor

                 signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The nominee is

                 hereby confirmed.

                            Congratulations on behalf of the

                 Senate.

                            (Applause.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    As President of

                 the Senate, I want to congratulate you on the

                 huge responsibility, Judge Egan, which you are

                 now undertaking and congratulate you on your

                 achievements that have set you on this very

                 honorable path.

                            I'd also like to acknowledge the

                 presence of your wife, Joan, your children,





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                 your grandchildren, and your friends who have

                 joined you here this afternoon.

                            (Applause.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Madam

                 President, there will be an immediate meeting

                 of the Finance Committee in the Majority

                 Conference Room.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There will be an

                 immediate meeting of the Finance Committee in

                 the Majority Conference Room.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a judge of the

                 Westchester County Court, Alphonse M.

                 Naclerio, of White Plains.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Lack.

                            SENATOR LACK:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            I again rise to move the nomination

                 of Alphonse M. Naclerio, of White Plains,

                 nominated by the Governor to be a judge of the

                 Westchester County Court.

                            Judge Naclerio's credentials have

                 been examined by the Committee on Judiciary.

                 He appeared earlier this afternoon before the





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                 committee, was unanimously moved from the

                 committee to the floor of the Senate for

                 confirmation at this time.

                            And I most respectfully yield for

                 purposes of a second to Senator Spano.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Spano.

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            Our Governor has a record of

                 appointing some extremely qualified people to

                 the bench, and it's been evidenced time and

                 time again.  Certainly, today is no exception.

                 The appointment of Al Naclerio to the bench is

                 just another in a long line of excellent

                 choices.

                            I have known Al Naclerio for a long

                 time.  I knew his late dad for a long time.

                 And I know that his dad spoke to me a number

                 of times about how proud he would be to see

                 his son on the county court.  Unfortunately,

                 he's not with us today to see that.

                            But I know he's watching from above

                 and is very proud today to see the Senate

                 confirm the appointment of someone who has had

                 such an outstanding record, starting in the





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                 military from back in 1971.  He remains active

                 as a member of the United States Army Reserve

                 today.  As a matter of fact, he just returned

                 from Germany, where he was involved in a

                 investigation of a murder case through the

                 Judge Advocate General's office.  He's got a

                 proud record of accomplishments in the Army

                 Reserve.

                            He went -- right out of law school,

                 where he graduated from Fordham University, he

                 went to work for Legal Aid, helping those who

                 might not otherwise have the benefit and the

                 financial means to qualified representation.

                            He's served as a partner in a

                 number of reputable firms and now is working

                 as principal law clerk to Westchester County

                 Judge Ken Lange.

                            Al Naclerio will be an outstanding

                 member of the county court representing

                 Westchester County.  He's got the experience

                 on the bench as a first-rate prosecutor.  He

                 is the ideal person who will serve the people

                 of Westchester in the best way possible.  And

                 it's my honor and privilege today to second

                 the nomination of Al Naclerio.





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                            Thank you, Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The question is

                 on the nomination of Alphonse M. Naclerio, of

                 White Plains, as a judge of the Westchester

                 County Court.  All in favor signify by saying

                 aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The nominee is

                 hereby confirmed.

                            And on behalf of the Senate, I

                 extend my congratulations to you and

                 acknowledge the presence of your wife, Susan,

                 your daughter, Michele, your mother,

                 Nicoletta, and your friend Dr. Francis

                 Brancaleone.  Congratulations.

                            (Applause.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            Senator Maltese.

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    If we could go

                 to motions and resolutions, Madam President,

                 there is a privileged resolution, Number 4438,

                 at the desk, by Senator DeFrancisco.  May we





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                 have the title read and move for its immediate

                 adoption.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 DeFrancisco, Legislative Resolution Number

                 4438, honoring the members of Team OHMS at

                 Onondaga Hill Middle School, Syracuse, New

                 York, for their participation in the 49th

                 Senate District's "Good News! Good Kids!"

                 Youth Responsibility Program for the year

                 2000.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator

                 DeFrancisco.

                            SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            I rise to congratulate the students

                 from the Onondaga Hill Middle School who

                 participated and won the middle school

                 division of the "Good News! Good Kids!"

                 program.

                            All too often we find situations

                 where the public hears only of bad things that

                 young people do.  Well, this group of

                 students, seventh- and eighth-graders from my





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                 district, did many good things in the

                 community, including feeding over 180 people

                 at a rescue mission function, collecting funds

                 to provide gifts for families at

                 Christmastime.  They collected new school

                 supplies and auctioned them off for University

                 Hospital's Center for Children, and visited

                 senior citizens' centers in residential areas

                 to make certain that they are still respected

                 and have people to talk to.

                            Now, these are truly wonderful

                 students who I'm proud that are from my

                 district and representing the people of

                 Central New York.  And I'm very proud to

                 present this resolution and request unanimous

                 approval to honor them as good kids, truly

                 good news in our state.

                            Thank you.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator

                 Montgomery.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Madam

                 President.  I would like to speak on the

                 resolution.

                            I join my colleague in celebrating

                 his students.  I think this is something that





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                 we should do.  And I too have a class here

                 from a middle school in my district, Junior

                 High School 113, Ron Edmund's Center.  And my

                 class joins your students in really being

                 students that we know, Senator, are going to

                 be leaders who are going to take our places in

                 this chamber someday, both your students and

                 mine.

                            So I thank you for introducing this

                 resolution.  And thank you, Madam President,

                 for entertaining our statements.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The question is

                 on the resolution.  All in favor signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The resolution is

                 adopted.

                            Senator Maltese.

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Madam

                 President, may we return to reports of

                 standing committees and complete the Judiciary

                 Committee report.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Reports of





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                 standing committees.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Lack,

                 from the Committee on Judiciary, reports the

                 following nomination:

                            As a judge of the Putnam County

                 Court, Thomas H. Scuccimarra, of Garrison.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Lack.

                            SENATOR LACK:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            Once again, I rise to move the

                 nomination of Thomas H. Scuccimarra, of

                 Garrison, as a judge of the Putnam County

                 Court.

                            We received the nomination from

                 Governor Pataki.  The staff of the Senate

                 Judiciary Committee went over the credentials

                 of the candidate.  They were found to be

                 excellent.  He was presented to the entire

                 Judiciary Committee earlier this afternoon and

                 was moved unanimously from the committee to

                 the floor for confirmation at this time.

                            And I most respectfully yield for

                 purposes of a second to Senator Leibell.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Leibell.





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                            SENATOR LEIBELL:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.  Thank you, Chairman.

                            I'm very pleased to have the

                 opportunity today for a couple of minutes to

                 speak about Judge Scuccimarra.  As Senator

                 Lack noted, we were in earlier this morning

                 before the Judiciary Committee, and I had the

                 opportunity, at the invitation of the

                 chairman, to speak briefly there and to tell

                 the committee members about Judge Scuccimarra.

                            I would also note that I'm joined

                 by my colleague from the Assembly, Assemblyman

                 Will Stephens, and our county legislator from

                 home, Vinnie Tamagna, who's here with us also

                 today.

                            We have had and received over the

                 course of years many, many fine nominations

                 from the Governor.  Let me say that we are

                 consistent with that today with Judge

                 Scuccimarra.  I've known Tom for quite a few

                 years myself.  In fact, in my last term in the

                 Assembly, he administered the oath of office

                 for me.  And I was very honored by the fact

                 that he did that.

                            Tom comes to us today with a long





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                 and distinguished career as a judge in our

                 local town of Philipstown.  He has served

                 there as the town justice for many years -- in

                 fact, I believe, in his 16th year as the town

                 justice -- and also served as acting village

                 justice in Cold Spring and acting village

                 justice in the Village of Nelsonville.

                            I would note also that besides

                 having served and being greatly respected by

                 his local judges, fellow local judges, he has

                 had a very fine practive in the private

                 practice of law in the city of Peekskill and

                 is well-respected by every attorney in the

                 Hudson Valley who has ever worked with him.

                            You know, as we look for the

                 characteristics that make for a good judge -

                 integrity, disposition, knowledge of the law,

                 the ability to work so hard, as a judge is

                 required to do -- we have all of those

                 characteristics right here in Tom Scuccimarra.

                 I know that he is going to be a wonderful

                 judge.  He's filling our vacancy.  He is going

                 to be a superb judge.  He has the support of

                 so many people at home.

                            I might also note that we've been





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                 joined here today by one of my finest

                 constituents, Mrs. Pataki, the Governor's

                 mother.  So welcome to the Senate chamber,

                 Mrs. Pataki, who is, I know, also friends with

                 the Scuccimarra family.

                            So I'm very pleased to have this

                 chance to speak today.  I wish Tom godspeed.

                 I know he'll take good care of our county.

                 And you'll be a great judge, Tom.

                            Thank you.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The question is

                 on the nomination of Thomas H. Scuccimarra, of

                 Garrison, as a judge of the Putnam County

                 Court.  All in favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The nominee is

                 hereby confirmed.

                            And on behalf of the Senate, I

                 extend our congratulations to you, and I

                 acknowledge the presence of your wife,

                 Barbara, your children, Eleanor and

                 Kristopher, your mother, Eleanor, and your

                 friend and the mother of our fine Governor,





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                 Mrs. Margaret Pataki.

                            Congratulations.

                            (Applause.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Maltese.

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Madam

                 President, if we could proceed in regular

                 order, please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator, we have

                 substitutions at the desk.  Would you like to

                 proceed with those first?

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Please, Madam

                 President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    All right.  The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    On page 5,

                 Senator Morahan moves to discharge, from the

                 Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number

                 1123A, and substitute it for the identical

                 Senate Bill Number 5842A, Third Reading

                 Calendar 107.

                            On page 8, Senator Volker moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 323A and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 6289,

                 Third Reading Calendar 213.





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                            On page 9, Senator Spano moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 7199B and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 4932B,

                 Third Reading Calendar 288.

                            On page 9, Senator Johnson moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 75 and substitute it for

                 the identical Senate Bill Number 1073A, Third

                 Reading Calendar 292.

                            On page 16, Senator Lack moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 10421 and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 6918,

                 Third Reading Calendar 505.

                            On page 16, Senator Hannon moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 7140B and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 3724B,

                 Third Reading Calendar 525.

                            On page 29, Senator Volker moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 8561B and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 3453A,

                 Third Reading Calendar 826.





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                            And on page 35, Senator Bonacic

                 moves to discharge, from the Committee on

                 Rules, Assembly Bill Number 9802A and

                 substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

                 Number 6884A, Third Reading Calendar 932.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The substitutions

                 are ordered.

                            Senator Maltese.

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Is there any

                 housekeeping, Madam President?

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Motions and

                 resolutions.

                            Senator Fuschillo.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            Amendments are offered to the

                 following Third Reading Calendar bills:

                            Sponsored by Senator Wright, page

                 number 6, Calendar Number 124, Senate Print

                 Number 4501B;

                            Senator Maltese, page number 8,

                 Calendar Number 222, Senate Print Number

                 4752A;

                            Senator Seward, page number 18,

                 Calendar Number 617, Senate Print Number 7131;





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                            Senator Leibell, page number 24,

                 Calendar Number 743, Senate Print Number 7457;

                            Senator Bonacic, page number 32,

                 Calendar Number 901, Senate Print Number 7310;

                            Senator Bonacic, page number 32,

                 Calendar Number 902, Senate Print Number 7311;

                            Senator Maltese, page number 34,

                 Calendar Number 927, Senate Print Number 4750;

                            Senator Trunzo, page number 41,

                 Calendar Number 1028, Senate Print Number

                 6945;

                            Senator Fuschillo, page number 42,

                 Calendar Number 1067, Senate Print Number

                 6875;

                            Senator LaValle, page number 43,

                 Calendar Number 1081, Senate Print Number

                 7448;

                            Senator Skelos, page number 44,

                 Calendar Number 1095, Senate Print Number

                 7066B;

                            Senator Rath, page number 45,

                 Calendar Number 1109, Senate Print Number

                 722B;

                            Senator Nozzolio, page number 45,

                 Calendar Number 1111, Senate Print Number





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                 1586A;

                            Senator Fuschillo, page number 46,

                 Calendar Number 1118, Senate Print Number

                 7361;

                            And Senator Kuhl, page number 31,

                 Calendar Number 875, Senate Print Number

                 6767A.

                            I now move that these bills retain

                 their place on the order of third reading.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received, and the bills will retain their

                 place on the third reading order.

                            Senator McGee.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Madam President,

                 on behalf of Senator Meier, I wish to call up

                 bill Senate Print Number 6272A, recalled from

                 the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 185, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 6272A, an

                 act in relation to adjusting.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Madam President,

                 I now move to reconsider the vote by which

                 this bill was passed.





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                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Madam President,

                 I now offer the following amendments.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received, Senator McGee.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            Madam President, on behalf of

                 Senator Kuhl, I wish to call up bill Print

                 Number 3243, recalled from the Assembly, which

                 is now at the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 307, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 3243, an

                 act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control

                 Law.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Madam President,

                 I now move to reconsider the vote by which

                 this bill was passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.





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                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Madam President,

                 I now offer the following amendments.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received, Senator McGee.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator

                 Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            On behalf of Senator Libous, I wish

                 to call up his bill, Print Number 7139,

                 recalled from the Assembly, which is now at

                 the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 709, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 7139, an

                 act to authorize the City of Norwich.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which the bill was passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary





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                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received, Senator.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, I move to recommit Senate Print

                 Number 7021, Calendar Number 596 on order of

                 third reading, to the Committee on Local

                 Government, with instructions to said

                 committee to strike the enacting clause out.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The enacting

                 clause will be stricken.  So ordered, Senator.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Maltese.

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Madam

                 President, at this time may we please have the

                 noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number





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                 81, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 1061A, an

                 act to amend the County Law, in relation to

                 authorizing.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 110, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 5281, an

                 act to amend the Banking Law, in relation to

                 including mortgage bankers and brokers.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 January.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is





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                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 150, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 5878,

                 an act to amend Chapter 548 of the Laws of

                 1995 amending the Environmental Conservation

                 Law.

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Lay it aside

                 for the day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 164, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 4360, an

                 act to amend the Workers' Compensation Law, in

                 relation to the investment of the State

                 Insurance Fund.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number





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                 313, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 6508A,

                 an act to amend the General Municipal Law, in

                 relation to urban development action areas.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 427, by Senator Alesi, Senate Print 84C, an

                 act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law and

                 the Insurance Law, in relation to devoting a

                 component of the prelicensing and defensive

                 driving courses.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 September.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 464, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 6453, an





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                 act to amend the Education Law, in relation to

                 establishing.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 488, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 6954, an

                 act to amend Chapter 723 of the Laws of 1989

                 amending the Mental Hygiene Law.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 621, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 6550A, an

                 act to amend the Retirement and Social

                 Security Law, in relation to ordinary death

                 benefits.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay the bill

                 aside, please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.





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                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 693, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 5742B,

                 an act to amend Chapter 164 of the Laws of

                 1907 relating to the incorporation of the

                 Queens Borough Public Library.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 814, by Senator Goodman, Senate Print 662A, an

                 act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to designating.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.  Nays,





                                                          3962



                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 815, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1619A,

                 an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to designating.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 816, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1620A,

                 an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to the designation.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 831, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 5767A, an

                 act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to peace officer status.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.





                                                          3963



                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 844, by Senator Wright, Senate Print 7011, an

                 act to amend the Public Service Law, in

                 relation to applications.

                            SENATOR WRIGHT:    Lay it aside for

                 the day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 856, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 6790, an

                 act to amend the State Administrative

                 Procedure Act, in relation to access.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Lay it aside.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 915, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 6694, an





                                                          3964



                 act to amend the Administrative Code of the

                 City of New York.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 13.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a home

                 rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 13.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 916, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 6737, an

                 act to amend the Administrative Code of the

                 City of New York.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a home

                 rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 13.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.





                                                          3965



                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 932, substituted earlier today by Member of

                 the Assembly Cahill, Assembly Print Number

                 9802A, an act to amend the Agriculture and

                 Markets Law, in relation to the release.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 90th day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1002, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 4483A,

                 an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to designating.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.





                                                          3966



                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1003, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 5505A,

                 an act to amend the Penal Law, the Vehicle and

                 Traffic Law, and the Insurance Law, in

                 relation to criminally aggressive driving.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 8.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 November.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1019, by Senator Velella, Senate Print 7810,





                                                          3967



                 an act to amend the Penal Law and the Real

                 Property Actions and Proceedings Law, in

                 relation to the criminal sale.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay it aside.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1039, by Senator Lack, Senate Print 6764, an

                 act to amend the Correction Law, in relation

                 to the preamble played before charges.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1042, by Senator A. Smith, Senate Print 5953,

                 an act directing the Department of State to

                 examine and investigate.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay it aside.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1101, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 2660,





                                                          3968



                 an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law,

                 in relation to distinctive plates.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Madam

                 President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    There will be

                 an immediate meeting of the Civil Service and

                 Pensions Committee in the Majority Conference

                 Room.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There will be an

                 immediate meeting of the Civil Service and

                 Pensions Committee in the Majority Conference

                 Room.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1117, by Senator Alesi, Senate Print 7241, an





                                                          3969



                 act to amend the General Business Law, in

                 relation to permitting.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1149, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 2925, an

                 act to amend the Banking Law, in relation to

                 increasing.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 30th day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number





                                                          3970



                 1153, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 7583, an

                 act to amend the Banking Law, in relation to

                 increased penalties.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect in 30 days.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1167, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 5824A,

                 an act authorizing the State University of New

                 York to lease and contract.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 10.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.





                                                          3971



                            Senator Velella, that completes the

                 noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    May we proceed

                 to the controversial reading of the calendar,

                 Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 313, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 6508A,

                 an act to amend the General Municipal Law, in

                 relation to urban development action areas.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 8.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Explanation.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Padavan,

                 an explanation has been requested.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            What this amendment to existing

                 law, section -- actually, Section 693 of the

                 Municipal -- the General Municipal Law would





                                                          3972



                 do, it would broaden and enhance and bolster

                 the city's anti-abandonment initiative by

                 broadening the number of residential

                 properties and buildings and vacant lots

                 throughout the city that would be eligible to

                 receive city financing, low-interest new

                 construction and rehabilitation loans.

                            Again, in an effort to deal with

                 these properties, increase the housing stock,

                 and to encourage particularly not-for-profit

                 entities to develop those parcels and enhance

                 the quality not only of their neighborhoods

                 but to provide additional housing.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Madam

                 President, if Senator Padavan would yield for

                 a question.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the sponsor

                 yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    You may proceed,

                 Senator Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Madam

                 President, I'm interested in finding out

                 whether there was a particular parcel of land





                                                          3973



                 that was the catalyst for the idea that

                 produced this legislation, or is this just a

                 general idea that is something that we might

                 do for a new sort of financing scheme where

                 the city is concerned?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    It's not a new

                 financing scheme, Senator.  This bill was

                 generated by HPD, the Department of Housing

                 Preservation and Development in the City of

                 New York -- specifically, their office of

                 planning and intergovernmental affairs -- for

                 the broad reason that I explained.

                            There are specific -- three

                 specific areas in this bill which are

                 amendments to the existing law, which is very

                 broad in terms of its applicability in the

                 City of New York.  It has no specific

                 reference to any singular piece of property.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Madam

                 President, if the Senator would continue to

                 yield.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the sponsor

                 yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Go ahead, Senator





                                                          3974



                 Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Addressing the

                 last part of the question first, then this is

                 something that's been utilized by HPD in the

                 past?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    That Section

                 693 has been utilized.

                            However, the attorneys within that

                 agency, in order to make the existing law more

                 effective, broaden its applicability, and deal

                 with certain technical changes that they

                 thought would be appropriate, recommended this

                 legislation.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Madam

                 President, if the Senator would continue to

                 yield.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the Senator

                 yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Go ahead, Senator

                 Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Senator, in

                 addition to knowing -- wanting to know when

                 the pictures are going to be ready, I'd also

                 like to know, was there anything specific that





                                                          3975



                 HPD was contemplating when they asked for this

                 amendment?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    When you say

                 "specific," could you be more specific?

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    In other

                 words, is there a specific parcel of land -

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    No, I thought I

                 answered that, Senator.  I have my entire file

                 here, which I'll place at your disposal at any

                 time you wish.  And in reading through it, you

                 will see no reference to any particular parcel

                 of land in the City of New York.

                            And I do believe that if you have

                 not received it, you should have, the

                 memorandum from the Mayor's office outlining

                 the specifics of this legislation.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Thank you,

                 Madam President, I'll take that under

                 advisement.  If Senator Padavan would yield to

                 one last question.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the Senator

                 yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    I certainly

                 will.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    You may proceed,





                                                          3976



                 Senator Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    The change in

                 the amount, the reduction in the figure now of

                 60 percent rather than 80 percent, would you

                 be willing, Madam President, to have the

                 Senator explain what is the magic of that

                 figure?  Why did HPD arrive at that amount?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Let me read the

                 memo to you, Senator, because I think it's

                 more concise than my explanation would be

                 without it.

                            It says the term "municipally owned

                 area" would be amended to "eligible areas."

                 This change is needed because of the City of

                 New York's recently enacted

                 third-party-transfer program.  This program

                 allows the Department of Finance to convey a

                 property in tax arrears that is defined as

                 distressed to a third party.  These third

                 parties consist of not-for-profit and

                 for-profit housing organizations selected by

                 the New York City Department of Housing

                 Preservation and Development to develop

                 affordable housing.

                            This change in terminology to





                                                          3977



                 "eligible areas" is needed to make clear that

                 property now designated as an urban

                 development area could be both municipally

                 owned and privately owned, resulting from the

                 third-party-transfer program.

                            Moreover, the change is needed to

                 remain consistent with Chapter 95 of the Laws

                 of 1997, which provides that private

                 properties in the third-party-transfer program

                 are eligible to receive low-interest city

                 finance loans.

                            Now, here's the part that relates

                 to your specific question:  "This bill seeks

                 to reduce the requirement for municipally

                 owned property of an urban development action

                 area from 80 percent to 60 percent.  This

                 change would allow a greater number of

                 properties throughout the city to receive the

                 designation as an urban development action

                 area.  Therefore, their placement in Section

                 693 would be appropriate, since Section 693

                 concerns area designation."

                            So what it says, very directly, is

                 we broaden the scope of the program by making

                 that change from 80 percent to 60 percent.  We





                                                          3978



                 increase the number of properties that would

                 be saved, developed.  More housing stock, less

                 urban blight.  Have I made my point?

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Not only,

                 Madam President, has the Senator made his

                 point, I think that the Senator missed his

                 calling.  He should have been a reader for

                 Books on Tape.  I thought that was brilliantly

                 performed, Senator.

                            And what I got from it is that the

                 lower figure of 60 percent will allow more

                 properties to become eligible.

                            Thank you, Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            Senator Duane, excuse me.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.  If the sponsor would yield.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the sponsor

                 yield?  Senator Padavan, do you yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes, Madam

                 President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    You may proceed,

                 Senator Duane.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    If I understood





                                                          3979



                 correctly, I thought that the sponsor said

                 that making more -- by -- instead of putting a

                 property through ULURP and putting it into

                 UDAAP, that it would be eligible -- the

                 property would be eligible to get low-income

                 loans.  Is that correct?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Based on the

                 requirements of the existing section of law,

                 Section 693, yes.  These changes would broaden

                 the scope of that current law.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    And through you,

                 Madam President, if the sponsor would continue

                 to yield.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the sponsor

                 yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    You may proceed,

                 Senator Duane.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    There isn't

                 anything in the law, though, which says that

                 if a property goes through ULURP that it would

                 not also be entitled to receive these

                 low-income loans; is that correct?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Let's see if I

                 understand your question.  If it goes through





                                                          3980



                 ULURP, that it would not receive the loan?

                 There's nothing here that I am aware of that

                 does that.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    And through you,

                 Madam President, if the sponsor would

                 continue -

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    ULURP is a

                 separate provision of the City Administrative

                 Code dealing with uniform land-use procedures.

                 That stands on its own.  This program stands

                 on its own.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    And through you,

                 Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the sponsor

                 yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Go ahead, Senator

                 Duane.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    And so a property

                 that has gone through the ULURP process would

                 be eligible to receive a low-income loan?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes, as long as

                 it meets the other requirements as stipulated

                 in law.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    And through you,





                                                          3981



                 Madam President, if the sponsor would continue

                 to yield.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the sponsor

                 yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    You may proceed,

                 Senator.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    And the UDAAP

                 process does not contain the same level of

                 public comment and involvement that a ULURP

                 has; is that correct?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Does not what,

                 Senator?

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Does not contain

                 the same level of public scrutiny and comment

                 as does a ULURP.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    As I said a

                 moment ago, and certainly as I'm sure you've

                 been exposed to ULURP procedures, that stands

                 on its own.  If a particular project falls

                 under ULURP in terms of what is required -

                 public hearings, broad range of actions -

                 that remains.

                            This is a financing program.  This

                 is an urban development program.  This is a





                                                          3982



                 protect housing stock, build housing stock

                 program.  Neither conflicts.  One does not

                 diminish the other in any way.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you,

                 Madam President, if the sponsor would continue

                 to yield.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the sponsor

                 yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Go ahead, Senator

                 Duane.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I'm going to

                 preface my question so that the sponsor knows

                 what it is that I'm trying to get at.  In a

                 former life, I dealt quite extensively with

                 ULURPs and UDAAPs.  ULURPs involved a public

                 process of a thorough hearing by community

                 boards, public notice -

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    I'm aware of

                 that, Senator.  You don't have to explain it

                 to me.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    -- whereas UDAAPs

                 do not have the same threshold of public

                 notification and public discourse; is that not

                 correct?





                                                          3983



                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    You are right.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Then through you,

                 Madam President, if the sponsor would continue

                 to yield.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the sponsor

                 yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    My concern is

                 that communities would not have the same

                 notification of how the city is disposing of a

                 parcel of property, would not have the same

                 control or ability to advise regarding who it

                 is and what it is that would end up in control

                 of that piece of property, whether or not

                 there would be a loan involved.  Is that not

                 correct?  Or is that correct?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    It's not

                 correct in the sense that -- in the manner and

                 the way you frame your question.  If a parcel

                 of property falls under the definition of a

                 ULURP process, then obviously, as you and I

                 have just discussed, the community at large -

                 planning boards and everyone involved -- would

                 have complete access to all information and

                 have total opportunity for input.  That stands





                                                          3984



                 on its own.

                            If one of these properties being

                 considered for this program was also a

                 property that fell into the ULURP process, the

                 ULURP process would still take place.

                            However, this is a financing

                 mechanism.  There is obviously public notice.

                 However, the need for advisory opinions from

                 community planning boards and whatever else is

                 in that ULURP process is not necessary.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you,

                 Madam President, if the sponsor would continue

                 to yield.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the sponsor

                 yield?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    You may proceed,

                 Senator Duane.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    What I'm trying

                 to get at is that the properties which -

                 there will now be more properties that will -

                 potentially there will be more properties that

                 will go through UDAAP and not through ULURP as

                 a result of this legislation.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    No, Senator.





                                                          3985



                 There will be more properties eligible for

                 UDAAP, no doubt.  But that does not diminish

                 those properties which rightfully must be

                 subject to ULURP.  There is no diminishing of

                 that.

                            But the objective here is to make

                 more properties in the City of New York

                 available for this kind of financing,

                 particularly for not-for-profit organizations

                 that want to convert abandoned properties into

                 viable housing, something I assume you would

                 strongly support.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you,

                 Madam President.  So through this legislation,

                 every property that is now going through ULURP

                 will continue to go through ULURP?

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Absolutely.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Okay.  Thank you,

                 Madam President.  On the bill.

                            The reason that I wanted to verify

                 that was that in my work with advocates for

                 community gardens, often the advocates

                 objected to properties just going through

                 UDAAP and not through ULURP, because in the

                 UDAAP process it was likely that they would





                                                          3986



                 not be notified in time.

                            But if, as the sponsor has now

                 clarified, all parcels of land that presently

                 go through ULURP would continue to go through

                 ULURP, then I have no problems with it at all.

                            Thank you, Madam President.  I'll

                 be voting yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 8.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            Senator Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Madam

                 President, there will be an immediate meeting

                 of the Rules Committee in the Majority

                 Conference Room.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There will be an

                 immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in

                 the Majority Conference Room.

                            The Secretary will continue to





                                                          3987



                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 464, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 6453, an

                 act to amend the Education Law, in relation to

                 establishing.

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    Explanation,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator LaValle,

                 an explanation has been requested.

                            SENATOR LAVALLE:    Yes, Madam

                 President.  I'm really glad to have the

                 opportunity to talk about this legislation.

                 We had an opportunity during the budget

                 conference committees to talk about this a

                 little bit.

                            It establishes for the first time

                 for the SUNY Maritime College a program that

                 would allow for 284 scholarships for those

                 individuals who would be admitted, who are

                 qualified for admission to the college, to

                 receive a four-year tuition scholarship.

                            Each member of the Legislature

                 would have at least one appointment.  And the

                 legislation delineates the number of

                 appointments by the members of the Senate and





                                                          3988



                 the Assembly.  The Governor would receive

                 appointments, and the Majority Leader and

                 Speaker also receive additional appointments,

                 for a total of 84.

                            This legislation is supported by

                 the State University and by the Alumni

                 Association at the SUNY Maritime College.

                            The reason for this legislation is

                 to give a shot in the arm to the college in

                 recruiting and retaining individuals who would

                 like to pursue an education dealing with the

                 maritime industry.  And of course that has

                 changed, you know, over the years to involve a

                 number of things other than receiving,

                 although a critical part of the education is a

                 license as a captain, to be able to captain a

                 ship.

                            But there are other elements with

                 the marine industry that the college has

                 broadened over the years in terms of

                 marine-science-type courses, in dealing with

                 pollution and other kinds of activities.

                            But the most important element of

                 this legislation is to retain the character of

                 the college, and that is that it be





                                                          3989



                 cadet-based.  And I think this also involves

                 each member of the Legislature, the Governor,

                 and the leaders to fully promote what I think

                 is a very specialized program within the SUNY

                 system.

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    Madam

                 President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Onorato.

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    Will the

                 sponsor yield for one question?

                            SENATOR LAVALLE:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The sponsor

                 yields.  You may proceed.

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    Senator

                 LaValle, we noticed that there is no

                 appropriation for this bill.

                            SENATOR LAVALLE:    Yes.

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    We were just

                 wondering if you have any idea as to what it

                 would wind up costing.

                            SENATOR LAVALLE:    Yes.  Senator

                 Onorato, that is a good question.

                            That will obviously be prospective

                 in next year's budget.  The cost is $1

                 million.  That was within our Senate





                                                          3990



                 resolution that we passed this year but was

                 not received by the Assembly.

                            You might also note that the last

                 two sentences of the legislation talks about

                 the tuition scholarships authorized by this

                 section shall be made available so long as

                 funds shall be made available for such

                 purposes.

                            We certainly hope that will happen

                 in the next budget.  It has been a priority of

                 ours since we passed it in our budget

                 resolution.  And I'm sure that the Assembly -

                 Assemblyman Kaufman has been very high on this

                 legislation as the Assembly sponsor.

                            So I'm looking forward to this

                 becoming a reality by passing both houses this

                 year and being funded within next year's

                 budget.

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Madam

                 President, if the Senator would just yield to

                 one quick question.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Does the Senator





                                                          3991



                 yield?

                            SENATOR LAVALLE:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    You may proceed,

                 Senator Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Senator, the

                 $1 million figure that you put on the cost of

                 operating this program -- and I'm very much in

                 favor of it -- it would seem to cost out to

                 about a little more than $3,000 per student.

                 You don't think that it would actually cost a

                 little more than that?

                            SENATOR LAVALLE:    SUNY tuition is

                 $3,400 per year per annum.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Okay.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 July.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number





                                                          3992



                 488, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 6954, an

                 act to amend Chapter 723 of the Laws of 1989.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Explanation.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Libous,

                 an explanation has been requested.

                            SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            This bill would extend the

                 comprehensive psychiatric emergency program,

                 commonly known in the business as CPEP, for

                 four years, from July 1 of 2000 to July 1 of

                 2004.

                            Basically what it does is it allows

                 these programs to be licensed by the Office of

                 Mental Health.  There is no budgetary amount

                 dealt with in this bill, because the

                 allocation has already been approved when the

                 state budget was passed.  This basically

                 allows the licensing to take place so that

                 these programs can continue for four

                 additional years.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Madam

                 President, on the bill.

                            Also included in this legislation





                                                          3993



                 is a provision that corrects a statutory

                 misreference that existed in the law pointed

                 out by Justice Richard Braun, State Supreme

                 Court of Manhattan, in a letter to Senator

                 Connor.  And at that point Senator Connor

                 tried to make everyone aware that this is the

                 case.

                            So we are happy that Senator Libous

                 has noticed that and put forth this

                 legislation.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 621, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 6550A, an

                 act to amend the Retirement and Social

                 Security Law, in relation to ordinary death

                 benefits.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Explanation,





                                                          3994



                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Spano, an

                 explanation has been requested.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Lay that aside

                 for the day, Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 815, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1619A,

                 an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to designation.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Explanation,

                 please.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Madam

                 President, please lay that aside temporarily.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside temporarily.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 816, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1620A,

                 an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to the designation.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Explanation,

                 please.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Again, can we

                 lay that aside temporarily until Senator





                                                          3995



                 LaValle returns.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Lay the

                 bill aside temporarily.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 856, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 6790, an

                 act to amend the State Administrative

                 Procedure Act, in relation to access to data.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Explanation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Rath, an explanation has been requested by

                 Senator Paterson.

                            SENATOR RATH:    Senator Paterson,

                 this is a technical change to a bill that has

                 been passed, and the changes have been agreed

                 to.

                            And it has to do with making the

                 bill more streamlined and less complicated for

                 all of the parties that would be involved in

                 the disclosure of the information that was

                 developed and used as the data -- as the

                 rule-making was moving through the agencies

                 and the data was being used.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Mr. President,





                                                          3996



                 this bill actually eliminates five of the

                 seven elements of Section 647 from last year,

                 not the least of which is the provision that

                 allows for the publication of the titles of

                 reports and the names of the people who issued

                 them.

                            And therefore, if Senator Rath

                 would yield for a question.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Rath, do you yield for a question?

                            SENATOR RATH:    Surely.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator yields.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Senator, I'm

                 just wondering why we would at this point be

                 passing an amendment to create a new Section

                 104 that in a sense almost eliminates all the

                 things that we voted for on June 16 last year

                 when we passed this bill 60 to nothing.

                            SENATOR RATH:    Senator, the

                 reason for the bill -- I think when you point

                 out that it did pass 60 to nothing, the data

                 access bill, as we call this in familiar

                 terms, has been widely hailed as an

                 extraordinarily important piece of legislation





                                                          3997



                 in order to make sure that open government and

                 freedom of access to data, when we are looking

                 at how the rule-making process went along, has

                 been extraordinary extraordinarily important.

                            But it was found by both the PSC

                 and in agreement with the Assembly that what

                 we had drafted originally was cumbersome and

                 was not realistic.  Maybe we went overboard

                 somewhat on it.

                            And there was no one who was more

                 anxious than I was to make sure that we got a

                 piece of legislation that did what the intent

                 was here.  Because the legislative intent is

                 for a free and open rule-making process.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Mr. President,

                 if Senator Rath would continue to yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Rath, do you yield?

                            SENATOR RATH:    Surely.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator yields to another question.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Perhaps,

                 Senator, we might have gone overboard a little





                                                          3998



                 bit.  It's certainly not uncommon that we in

                 this chamber go overboard a little bit.

                            But why would we be eliminating the

                 position of data access officer, who if

                 anything would have broad supervisory power in

                 that particular area and a decision-making

                 capacity that would relate directly to what

                 you just said, whether or not we're going

                 overboard?

                            SENATOR RATH:    My understanding

                 of that particular provision, as requested

                 that we drop back on that, was that there were

                 others that would be equally able to handle

                 that kind of a measure, and that it was going

                 to be unduly -- what's the word I'm looking

                 for -- an undue burden to have this kind of an

                 officer available when other people could do

                 the same job as that person could.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Mr. President,

                 if Senator Rath would continue to yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Rath, do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR RATH:    Surely.





                                                          3999



                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator continues to yield.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Senator Rath,

                 assuming that you're correct, could you tell

                 myself and our other colleagues what happened

                 between the time that we passed Section 647

                 last year and now that so instantly made us

                 aware that we needed to rescind some of the

                 regulations that we passed in such a short

                 period of time?

                            SENATOR RATH:    The question of

                 one particular instance, Senator, I don't

                 believe I can tell you that.  But I do believe

                 that the people who found themselves to be

                 impacted by this bill went back through it and

                 came back with recommendations that we could

                 ease some of it.

                            But they were not looking to change

                 the legislative intent, just the way that it

                 would be implemented.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Paterson.

                            SENATOR PATERSON:    Mr. President,

                 I want to thank Senator Rath.

                            On the bill.  I'm just a little





                                                          4000



                 concerned that the legislative intent may

                 still be stated in the bill, but in the sense

                 that we've nicked it to death.  In other

                 words, we've cut so much out of it that I

                 don't know that even though there's intent,

                 that there's enough information that would be

                 made available other than by request that we

                 could actually find out as much as we would

                 want to about data, quite frankly, which is a

                 very important issue in this particular time.

                            I can understand that we might want

                 to streamline some of what we had put forth

                 last year.  But it just seems to me that not

                 even a seasonable period had passed before we

                 could even determine whether or not we had

                 gone overboard, as Senator Rath said.

                            I don't have any real problem with

                 this legislation.  Perhaps Senator Rath is

                 right.  But I would just certainly caution us

                 that we are going to be voting for legislation

                 that we all agreed, 60 to nothing, last

                 year -- June 16th -- was important and vital

                 and was certainly worthy of our consideration,

                 that we probably be more scrupulous in our

                 deliberations or perhaps that we -- when we've





                                                          4001



                 made a decision that we at least give it some

                 time to lend to whether or not we have

                 actually erred in the process.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Secretary will read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 7.  This

                 act shall take effect on the same date as

                 Chapter 647 of the Laws of 1999.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 if we could return to reports of standing

                 committees, I believe there's a report of the

                 Rules Committee at the desk.  I ask that it be

                 read.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    We'll

                 return to the order of reports of standing

                 committees.  The Secretary will read the

                 report of the Rules Committee which is at the

                 desk.





                                                          4002



                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Bruno,

                 from the Committee on Rules, reports the

                 following bills:

                            Senate Print 1188B, by Senator

                 Goodman, an act to amend the Penal Law;

                            1880B, by Senator Wright, an act to

                 amend the Environmental Conservation Law;

                            2353, by Senator Velella, an act to

                 amend the General Obligations Law;

                            2883, by Senator Skelos, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            3009, by Senator Leibell, an act to

                 amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules;

                            3019B, by Senator Saland, an act

                 authorizing the reopening;

                            4203A, by Senator Trunzo, an act to

                 amend the Highway Law;

                            4208, by Senator Trunzo, an act to

                 amend the Transportation Law;

                            4268A, by Senator Trunzo, an act to

                 amend the Highway Law;

                            4613, by Senator Maziarz, an act to

                 amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

                            5199A, by Senator Bonacic, an act

                 to amend the Environmental Conservation Law;





                                                          4003



                            5675A, by Senator Larkin, an act to

                 authorize the commissioner;

                            6147, by Senator Rath, an act to

                 amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

                            6306A, by Senator Stafford,

                 concurrent resolution of the Senate and

                 Assembly;

                            6514, by Senator Marcellino, an act

                 to amend in relation to granting;

                            6682, by Senator McGee, an act to

                 amend the Criminal Procedure Law;

                            6898, by Senator Johnson, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            7233, by Senator Saland, an act to

                 amend Chapter 797 of the Laws of 1871;

                            7468, by Senator Velella, an act to

                 amend the Social Services Law;

                            7576, by Senator Seward, an act to

                 amend the Insurance Law;

                            7800, by Senator Hoffmann, an act

                 to amend the Public Authorities Law;

                            7811, by Senator Rath, an act to

                 amend the Local Finance Law;

                            7861, by Senator Spano, an act to

                 amend the State Finance Law;





                                                          4004



                            7864, by Senator Velella, an act to

                 amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules;

                            7866, by Senator Skelos, an act

                 authorizing the assessor of the County of

                 Nassau;

                            7893, by Senator Padavan, an act to

                 amend the General Municipal Law;

                            7909, by Senator Goodman, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            And 7913, by Senator Sampson, an

                 act authorizing the City of New York.

                            All bills ordered direct to third

                 reading.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Move to accept

                 the report of the Rules Committee.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 motion is to accept the report of the Rules

                 Committee.  All those in favor signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)





                                                          4005



                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The Rules

                 report is accepted.  The bills are ordered

                 directly to third reading.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 would you call up Calendar Number 1200, Senate

                 6306A, by Senator Stafford.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1200, by Senator Stafford, Senate Print 6306A,

                 concurrent resolution of the Senate and

                 Assembly proposing amendments to Article 7 of

                 the Constitution.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Explanation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Stafford, an explanation of Calendar Number

                 1200 has been requested by the Acting Minority

                 Leader.

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    Who asked for

                 the explanation?

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    I did,

                 Senator Stafford.

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    I would say,

                 Mr. President, that this is very similar to





                                                          4006



                 what we passed last year in this house.  And

                 these amendments to the State Constitution

                 will strengthen the statutory debt reform

                 amendments that were passed in the 2000-2001

                 budget.

                            And if passed by the Assembly, the

                 voters will be offered the opportunity to

                 approve these reforms, which would do the

                 following:

                            Eliminate back-door borrowing;

                 i.e., appropriation back debt.  It would allow

                 only voter-approved general obligation debt

                 or, in other words, debt that is backed by

                 specific revenues of the state.  It would

                 constitutionally cap new outstanding debt at

                 4 percent of the state's personal income.  It

                 would constitutionally cap new debt service at

                 5 percent of all funds received.

                            The proposal would also require

                 that one-half of all new debt issued must be

                 voter-approved general obligations debt.

                 Also, it would constitutionally limit the

                 issuance of debt to capital purposes only.

                 Also, it would constitutionally limit the

                 maturity on new debt to 30 years.  And,





                                                          4007



                 finally, allow multiple bond acts on the

                 ballot.

                            I certainly think this is a real

                 step forward and would hope it would pass this

                 house and also the Assembly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Dollinger, why do you rise?

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Would the

                 sponsor just yield to one question?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Stafford, would you yield to one question from

                 Senator Dollinger?

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator yields.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Through you,

                 Mr. President, is there anything in this

                 proposal that affects the borrowing by any

                 other agencies other than agencies directly

                 from the State of New York?

                            That is, as I'm sure Senator

                 Stafford is aware, even when the construction

                 of Rockefeller Plaza occurred, we used a

                 mechanism to finance it through a county.

                 That is my understanding.





                                                          4008



                            Is there any restriction on the

                 ability of the state government to borrow from

                 other entities that may not be a part of the

                 state, to use them as a means of back-door

                 borrowing?

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    As far as

                 that's concerned, that isn't really what's

                 addressed here, no.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Through you,

                 Mr. President, if Senator Stafford would just

                 continue to yield for one other -

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator yields.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Is there any

                 provision in here that deals with a

                 financial-catastrophe kind of emergency

                 situation, such as existed in 1975 with

                 respect to the City of New York, and the

                 ability of the state to borrow money in dire

                 financial circumstances if New York City or

                 Troy or some of the other cities that have run

                 into problems -- that would allow us to borrow

                 money outside the cap and in essence go back

                 through the back door in some emergency

                 circumstances?





                                                          4009



                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    There are

                 other emergency provisions in the

                 Constitution, but not specifically in this

                 proposal.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Okay.  And

                 through you, Mr. President, this proposal does

                 not affect the emergency borrowing powers

                 granted to the state under the State

                 Constitution, this simply affects the normal

                 process of what we're familiarly calling

                 back-door borrowing?

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    That's right.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Thank you,

                 Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Any other

                 Senator wishing to speak on the resolution?

                            The Secretary will call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 resolution is adopted.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 there will be a meeting of the Health

                 Committee in the Majority Conference Room at





                                                          4010



                 4:00 p.m.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    There

                 will be an immediate meeting of the Health

                 Committee, immediate meeting of the Health

                 Committee in the Majority Conference Room,

                 Room 332.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 if we could return to the regular calendar

                 active list, regular order.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1019, by Senator Velella, Senate Print 7810,

                 an act to amend the Penal Law and the Real

                 Property Actions and Proceedings Law, in

                 relation to the criminal sale of controlled

                 substances.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Explanation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Velella, an explanation of Calendar Number

                 1019 has been requested.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.  Thank you.

                            The bill would increase criminal





                                                          4011



                 penalties for those who sell controlled

                 substances in public parks, very much the same

                 as we did for those who sell controlled

                 substances in our school system.

                            In addition, the bill would

                 authorize tenant organizations, block

                 associations, or neighborhood associations

                 within a thousand feet of any property that is

                 being used for illegal activities to serve the

                 owner or landlord with notice to make an

                 application for removal within five days.  If

                 the owner or landlord does not comply or does

                 not diligently prosecute the tenant, it allows

                 the organization to bring the action for

                 removal instead of the landlord.

                            It would empower our community

                 organizations that complain about improper and

                 illegal use of properties in our districts and

                 in our communities to bring these actions

                 themselves if the landlord does not agree to

                 do so.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Duane, why do you rise?

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Would the sponsor

                 yield?





                                                          4012



                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Velella, do you yield for a question from

                 Senator Duane?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Certainly,

                 Senator.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you.

                            Section 2 and 3 amend the Penal Law

                 by subjecting individuals who sell controlled

                 substances in public parks to enhanced

                 criminal penalties; is that correct?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Yes, Senator.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I'm wondering,

                 then, why it is -

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Duane, that was one question.  Are you asking

                 the Senator to yield to another question?

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Yes, if the

                 sponsor would continue to yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Velella, do you yield to another question from

                 Senator Duane?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Yes, I do, Mr.

                 President.





                                                          4013



                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I'm wondering if

                 the sponsor feels that a sale of a controlled

                 substance is a sale of a controlled substance

                 or not, or whether there are special

                 circumstances sometimes for the sale of a

                 controlled substance that deserves an enhanced

                 penalty.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    I'm not sure I

                 understand the question, Senator.

                            My feeling is if it's a controlled

                 substance, if it's under 220 and you break the

                 law and you repeatedly break the law, you

                 ought to be punished.  That's my feeling.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Velella, do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator continues to yield.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Yet this

                 legislation provides for enhanced penalties

                 for the sale of a controlled substance in a





                                                          4014



                 public park.  Is it your position that there

                 are differences, that the sale of a controlled

                 substance is not always the same as the sale

                 of a controlled substance, that there are

                 sometimes special circumstances which require

                 an increased penalty for the sale of a

                 controlled substance; for instance, if the

                 sale happens in a park?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    You know,

                 sometimes I have trouble understanding how

                 that side of the aisle thinks.  Well, the

                 other day Senator Dollinger kept asking me the

                 same question over and over again, and I had

                 to tell him what I will tell you again.  If it

                 waddles like a duck, if it quacks like a duck,

                 it's a duck.

                            You know what?  220 is against the

                 law to violate.  If you violate it, you ought

                 to be punished.  If you keep violating it and

                 you do it in public places, it ought to be

                 punished more severely.

                            Like I believe you supported -- I'm

                 not sure -- we did this when people sell drugs

                 in schools.  When they sell them in parks

                 where kids are, where the least protected





                                                          4015



                 members if our society are, they ought to be

                 punished more severely.

                            How many times I can explain that

                 to you I don't know.  You can ask the question

                 six different ways, I'm still going to answer

                 it the same way.  You violate 220, you ought

                 to be punished.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Duane.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Mr. President, on

                 the bill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Duane, on the bill.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I agree with

                 Senator Velella that sometimes there is a call

                 for increasing penalties; for instance, in

                 this case.

                            But what I am confused about is why

                 it is that earlier in this session Senator

                 Bruno said that, regarding hate crimes, that

                 "We feel it's an important issue, it's one

                 that should be addressed in some way here in

                 this chamber, discussed and voted on, and we

                 intend to do that in this session."

                            And in addition, Senator Goodman,





                                                          4016



                 when speaking when Madam President was in the

                 President's seat, said, "This is a matter of

                 great gravity.  And I would just like to say

                 to you that after a careful discussion with

                 the Majority Leader, I'm absolutely convinced

                 that what you've have just heard from him will

                 be a binding pledge.  He has done this before,

                 and he has stuck to every word of his, every

                 bit of his commitment on anything that he's

                 ever pledged to me personally.  And I do have

                 his pledge, as does our entire conference,

                 that this matter will be taken you up in due

                 course this year.  And I'm also informed that

                 it will involve the use of the sexual

                 orientation with specificity, and not just a

                 vague language to becloud the issue."

                            And so, Mr. President, what I'm

                 confused about is why it is that we continue

                 to have bills come before us which enhance

                 penalties for crimes under certain

                 circumstances and with certain intent and

                 against various groups of people -- like

                 police officers and code enforcement officers

                 and the elderly and mentally impaired -- and

                 yet, even though there was a whole discussion





                                                          4017



                 on the floor and pledges put forward, we still

                 have not yet had a vote on hate crimes.

                            I'll be voting yes on this, but I

                 think the point needs to be made that there

                 was a pledge made that we would be voting on

                 hates crimes, including sexual orientation,

                 which increases penalties for a certain type

                 of crime.  We have very little time left in

                 this session.  I'm looking forward to that

                 pledge being kept.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Mr. President,

                 just on the bill briefly.  I would just like

                 to -

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Velella, on the bill.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    I would just

                 like to call to the attention of my colleagues

                 that this bill is punishing people who

                 repeatedly break the same law over and over

                 again, who continue to flaunt their

                 irresponsible conduct, their insistence on

                 breaking the laws before us.  And I believe





                                                          4018



                 that we have to severely punish them.

                            I also believe very strongly that

                 we need not be reminded that when the Majority

                 Leader of this house or when Senator Goodman

                 make a statement on the floor, they've always

                 lived up to it.  And I don't think that we

                 need other members to constantly try to

                 grandstand and remind them.

                            I think the Majority Leader will

                 keep his word.  I think Senator Goodman keeps

                 his word.  And I don't think it's very

                 professional to try and insinuate that they

                 need to be reminded about their word.

                            Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Montgomery.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.  I would like to ask a couple of

                 questions of Senator Velella.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Velella, do you yield to a question from

                 Senator Montgomery?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator yields.





                                                          4019



                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Thank you,

                 Senator Velella.

                            Your bill amends the law -- I just

                 want to make sure this is what I'm actually

                 reading -- that it amends the law to make it a

                 Class E felony for a person who is convicted

                 for the third time of selling marijuana; is

                 that not correct?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Not -- no, the

                 third time for possessing.  The second time

                 for selling.  The second time for selling, the

                 third time for possessing.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    And then it

                 makes it a Class D felony for a person to sell

                 marijuana -

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Excuse me,

                 Senator, I just want to be correct when I give

                 you the information.  Counsel explained to me

                 that it would be the fourth time, actually.

                 They had to be convicted of three violations

                 of possession for Section 220.  It could be

                 marijuana or it could be any other controlled

                 substance.

                            But three convictions for the

                 possession.  The fourth time, you would have





                                                          4020



                 the felony offense apply, an E felony.

                            And for the sale, two convictions

                 and the third time it would be a felony

                 offense.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    So the

                 fourth time -

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    For possession.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    -- for

                 possession, and the third time for selling?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Yes.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    And then it

                 makes it a Class D felony for any person to

                 sell marijuana if he has previously been

                 convicted of three or more crimes involving

                 marijuana.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Well, Senator,

                 you know, maybe that may be the drug of choice

                 you used, to use an example.

                            But the law as we're writing it

                 says three or more times within a five-year

                 period for violation of Section 220.  Which

                 might include marijuana and might include a

                 lot of other different types of controlled

                 substances.

                            So it could be, you know, a Chinese





                                                          4021



                 menu of pick one from Column A and one from

                 Column B.  You could have marijuana, you could

                 have some other kind of drugs, or you could

                 have three sales of marijuana.  And then it

                 would be elevated to a felony on the fourth

                 one.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Right.  Mr.

                 President, I'm just dealing with marijuana.

                 I'm not dealing with the other.

                            (Laughter.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Would you

                 like the Senator to yield to another -

                 Senator Montgomery.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    I'm just

                 talking about marijuana.  I'm not talking

                 about the other.

                            (Laughter.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Montgomery, would you like Senator Velella to

                 yield?

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Let the

                 record show that I'm only talking about

                 marijuana.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Would you

                 like Senator Velella to yield to another





                                                          4022



                 question?

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, if he will continue to yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Velella, do you yield to another question?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Certainly,

                 Senator.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator yields.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    My

                 apologies, Senator.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Oh, don't

                 apologize.  Feel free.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Senator, I

                 would just like to know if, assuming that a

                 person is arrested on a D felony under your

                 law for marijuana -

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Okay.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    -- what

                 would be the minimum sentence for that person

                 based on the Rockefeller Drug Laws?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Under the

                 Rockefeller Drug Law, I don't know.  But under

                 this law, a D felony would be, I believe, zero

                 to 7 max.





                                                          4023



                            This is the fourth sale.  This is

                 not some innocent kid who is just possessing a

                 little bit for his personal consumption.  This

                 is the fourth sale to somebody that's maybe my

                 son, my grandchild, someone I care about

                 they've sold it to.  Maybe it's someone that

                 you care about.

                            You choose to talk about marijuana.

                 The law doesn't -- Section 220 doesn't

                 differentiate marijuana and the controlled

                 substances that are listed in there.  You

                 choose to speak about marijuana, but it could

                 be any other controlled substance.

                            So on their fourth sale, they've

                 got a problem.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Montgomery.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Senator,

                 just -- I just want to make a brief statement

                 on the bill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Montgomery, on the bill.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Thank you,

                 Senator Velella.





                                                          4024



                            On the legislation, I just want to

                 point out to Senator Velella that we are -- I

                 think the Governor has made some indication,

                 as well as our Majority Leader -- certainly on

                 our side of the house, we're trying to talk

                 about reforming the Rockefeller Drug Laws.

                            And certainly one of the things

                 that we understand is that the way that the

                 law is written, it requires excessive

                 sentencing disproportionate to the actual

                 involvement.

                            And in fact, counsel tells me that

                 actually marijuana is -- would not necessarily

                 be covered under this section of the law.

                            But let me just say that rather

                 than getting into the details of the law where

                 it's covered and that sort of thing, because

                 I'm not an expert in that -- but I certainly

                 am an expert in understanding that we have

                 this tremendously lopsided system of punishing

                 people specifically, I'm talking about, in

                 relationship to their involvement with

                 marijuana.

                            So I would hope that we would leave

                 some time and leave -- be open to the process





                                                          4025



                 of reforming that whole battery of laws as it

                 relates to marijuana before we go into

                 establishing these harsh penalties and talking

                 about if you sell it near the park or near the

                 this or near the that.

                            I think that we -- one, if it's a

                 crime, it should be a crime that stands

                 anyplace.  But certainly if we're going to

                 talk about reform, it seems to me that we

                 don't want to now talk about if you sell -- if

                 you're caught three times, you're going to

                 be -- we're going to increase the level of the

                 penalty.

                            So, Mr. President, I'm just voting

                 no on this because I've taken the position

                 that I want to see the Rockefeller Drug Laws

                 reformed.  I think most of us in this house

                 do.  And for us to have these single

                 approaches to escalating what we already know

                 is wrong, to me just doesn't make any sense.

                            So I'm voting no.  Certainly I'm

                 not, you know, supporting drug addicts or

                 people who sell drugs.  But I do think that we

                 absolutely have to address the reform of the

                 Rockefeller Drug Laws.  So I'm voting no, Mr.





                                                          4026



                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Secretary will read the last section.

                            Excuse me.  Senator Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    If I might,

                 just to clear up what might be a

                 misunderstanding.

                            I believe that you and I are

                 talking about the same thing.  When you're

                 talking about the proposals in this house to

                 reform the drug laws that were instituted

                 under Governor Rockefeller, those are some

                 pretty harsh mandatory-jail-sentence

                 provisions that the judge must sentence

                 someone to jail if in fact they violate those

                 laws.

                            This is what you're looking for.

                 This gives the latitude to the sentencing

                 judge to say, I'm looking at this, if this is

                 somebody who's a bad person that I want to

                 send to jail, I can send them to jail for a

                 long time.  And that can be to an E or a D

                 felony.

                            If they're not, there's no

                 requirement.  It's not mandatory jail time.





                                                          4027



                 It's permissive for the judge, the sentencing

                 judge.

                            And with all due respect to your

                 counsel who kneels at your side, your counsel

                 says marijuana isn't covered.  My counsel says

                 marijuana is covered.  What have you got a

                 problem with?  You want to talk about

                 marijuana, it's not covered?  Vote for the

                 bill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Secretary will read the last section.

                            Excuse me.  Senator Coppola.

                            SENATOR COPPOLA:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.  Just one question to the sponsor.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Velella, do you yield to a question from

                 Senator Coppola?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator yields.

                            SENATOR COPPOLA:    Would this

                 specifically be for parks and school grounds?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Well, we

                 already did schools.  That's in the law.  This

                 would expand that same concept to parks.





                                                          4028



                            And also the phase that has not

                 been thoroughly discussed is it would allow

                 community groups, tenant associations, civic

                 associations in your district, in your

                 community to say, We want to go in because we

                 know that house has got drug activity going

                 on, it's a place where they're selling

                 marijuana or they're selling other controlled

                 substances, and the landlord fails to take any

                 action to dispossess those people.  The

                 community groups can now go and in and have

                 the umbrella of protection under the name of a

                 group so that there's no individual pointing

                 the finger.

                            I think it's a very positive step

                 forward.

                            SENATOR COPPOLA:    Well, one more

                 question, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Velella, do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Senator continues to yield.

                            SENATOR COPPOLA:    Well, I guess

                 what I was concerned about is that if there





                                                          4029



                 are -- you were putting barriers on this law.

                 But apparently it's more than just parks.  It

                 could be used in neighborhoods also.  I mean,

                 if you got caught -

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    That's another

                 section, yes.

                            SENATOR COPPOLA:    If you got

                 caught across the street from a park, there

                 wouldn't be -- it would still be in this?

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    No, the

                 additional elevation of the crimes to the

                 felonies are for sales and possession on park

                 property.  You have to be on the property.

                            The other laws that we now have in

                 effect for the rest of the state would take

                 place if it was across the street or down the

                 block.

                            In addition, this law is being

                 expanded to allow these community groups

                 within a thousand feet of a building to bring

                 an action in court to have the tenant or the

                 person that's selling drugs in a building -

                 the second part of the bill -- to have them

                 evicted from the building if the landlord

                 fails to take action.





                                                          4030



                            SENATOR COPPOLA:    I'm obviously

                 supporting the bill.  I think -

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Coppola, are you asking Senator Velella to

                 yield to another question, or do you want to

                 speak on the bill?

                            SENATOR COPPOLA:    I just want to

                 speak on the bill, Senator.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Coppola, on the bill.

                            SENATOR COPPOLA:    I'm obviously

                 going to support the bill.  I think it's good

                 to enforce and do things like Senator Velella

                 is doing.  I just think that we shouldn't have

                 restrictions or barriers.  I think everything

                 should be covered.

                            And that's all I was concerned

                 about, that everything would be covered with

                 this bill.  And I don't know if it is, and

                 that's the whole thing.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Any other

                 Senator wishing to speak on the bill?

                            The Secretary will read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 10.  This





                                                          4031



                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Duane, why do you rise?

                            SENATOR DUANE:    To explain my

                 vote.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Duane, to explain his vote.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you.  I

                 just want to completely clarify that the issue

                 that I was speaking to was that of enhancing

                 criminal penalties to those who sell

                 controlled substances in public parks.

                            And that it's yet another example

                 that we have here in the Senate of increasing

                 a penalty for a crime and thereby

                 acknowledging and reinforcing that a crime is

                 not always a crime, that different crimes are

                 treated -- that the same crime directed in a

                 certain place or against a certain person or

                 groups of people can be punished with enhanced

                 penalties.

                            I'll be voting yes on this, Mr.





                                                          4032



                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Duane will be recorded in the affirmative.

                            Announce the results.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Montgomery recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1039, by Senator Lack, Senate Print 6764, an

                 act to amend the Correction Law, in relation

                 to the -

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Lay it aside

                 for the day, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 815, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1619A,

                 an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to the designation.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Lay the bill

                 aside for the day.





                                                          4033



                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 816, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1620A,

                 an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to the designation.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Lay that

                 bill aside for the day, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            Senator Marcellino, that completes

                 the reading of the controversial calendar.

                            We do have a couple of housekeeping

                 things at the desk, if you'd like to take

                 those up now.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Clean the

                 house, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    We'll

                 return to the order of motions and

                 resolutions.

                            The chair recognizes Senator McGee.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            On behalf of Senator Skelos, would

                 you please place a sponsor star on Calendar





                                                          4034



                 Number 716.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Calendar

                 Number 716 will be starred at the request of

                 the sponsor.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Thank you very

                 much, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Thank

                 you, Senator McGee.

                            Senator Smith.

                            SENATOR A. SMITH:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            On page 41, I offer the following

                 amendments to Calendar Number 1042, Senate

                 Print Number 5953, and ask that said bill

                 retain its place on Third Reading Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted, and the

                 bill will retain its place on the Third

                 Reading Calendar.

                            Senator Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, if we could return to the reports

                 of standing committees, I believe there's a

                 report of the Finance Committee at the desk.

                 If we can have it read.





                                                          4035



                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    We'll

                 return to the order of reports of standing

                 committees.  There is a report from the

                 Finance Committee at the desk.  I'll ask the

                 Secretary to read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Stafford,

                 from the Committee on Finance, reports the

                 following nominations:

                            As a member of the Workers'

                 Compensation Board, Michael Berns, of New York

                 City.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Stafford.

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    We've had fine

                 appointments, Mr. President, this afternoon.

                 Mr. Berns is one.  I'm yielding to Senator

                 Goodman.  It's a pleasure to yield to Senator

                 Goodman.

                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Mr. President,

                 it's my pleasure this afternoon to speak on

                 behalf of the nomination of Michael T. Berns,

                 of the famed Silk Stocking district in New

                 York City, who is at this point before us for

                 consideration.

                            Mr. Berns is an individual I've





                                                          4036



                 known for a long while, and I have the

                 greatest confidence in his ability and

                 integrity and think he'd make a very suitable

                 addition to the Workers' Compensation Board.

                            May I say to you that he has had

                 direct operating experience in several areas

                 of significance.  He's on the Roosevelt Island

                 Operating Corporation.  He has had various

                 affiliations with electronics concerns in New

                 York City, including Tiffany Electronics, the

                 very name of which connotes high quality, no

                 doubt, for those of you familiar with that

                 great establishment -- with which this company

                 has nothing whatsoever to do, I might add.

                            He is -- I'm not being facetious,

                 Mr. Chairman.  I believe very strongly that

                 his various business experiences add up to a

                 significant body of evidence that he would

                 make a splendid addition.

                            And may I say to you also that

                 knowing him as I do, he's an individual of

                 great personal concern and sympathy for other

                 human beings and as such would be a very

                 suitable individual working within the ambit

                 of this particular professional body.





                                                          4037



                            Mr. President, may I say that he is

                 also a noted member of Community Planning

                 Board Number 8 -- Mr. Velella, please.  And as

                 a board member and chairman of coop boards,

                 he's also had a record of good performance.

                            I believe he's with us today, and

                 it's my great pleasure to place his name in

                 nomination before this body with utmost

                 confidence and belief in his ability,

                 capacity, and integrity.

                            Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Is there

                 any other member wishing to speak on the

                 nomination?

                            Hearing none, the question is on

                 the nomination of Michael Berns, of New York

                 City, to become a member of the Workers'

                 Compensation Board.  All those in favor of the

                 nomination signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is unanimously confirmed.





                                                          4038



                            We're very, very pleased to have

                 Mr. Berns in the chamber with us.

                            Mr. Berns, congratulations and good

                 luck.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Secretary will continue to read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

                 the Workers' Compensation Board, Jeffrey

                 Sweet, of Peekskill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Stafford.

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    Mr. President,

                 on behalf of Senator Leibell, it's certainly a

                 pleasure to move the nomination of Mr. Sweet,

                 who has done an excellent job also on the

                 Workers' Compensation Board.

                            And he had experience as a

                 personnel director at the Westchester Medical

                 Center.  And he understands the Labor Law and

                 labor relations.  And he has an outstanding

                 record as far as working in his community.  He

                 graduated from Utica College of Syracuse

                 University.

                            And again, it's a pleasure to move





                                                          4039



                 the confirmation of Mr. Sweet.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Is there

                 any other Senator wishing to speak on the

                 nomination?

                            Hearing none, the question is on

                 the nomination of Jeffrey Sweet, of Peekskill,

                 New York, to become a member of the Workers'

                 Compensation Board.  All those in favor

                 signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            We're very pleased to have

                 Mr. Sweet with us today.

                            Mr. Sweet, congratulations and good

                 luck.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Secretary will continue to read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

                 the Board of Trustees of the City University

                 of New York, John J. Calandra, Esquire, of the





                                                          4040



                 Bronx.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Stafford.

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    It will be a

                 pleasure to yield to the Senator from the

                 Bronx, Senator Velella.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The chair

                 recognizes Senator Velella on the nomination.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Mr. President,

                 it's my pleasure and my honor to place a

                 nomination in the name of John Calandra for

                 reappointment as a member of the board at CUNY

                 University.

                            Certainly the name is no new name

                 to this chamber.  His dad served here for many

                 years with some of the people who sit here

                 today.  Certainly Senator Stafford and many

                 remember John Calandra, Sr., who had a very

                 distinguished and outstanding career in this

                 chamber.

                            His son has followed in his

                 footsteps and become an attorney, a graduate

                 of Cornell University, graduated third in his

                 class, Law Review, magna cum laude, an

                 excellent student, an excellent attorney, and





                                                          4041



                 also an excellent member of the board at CUNY.

                            His public service career is

                 beginning and has led to a distinguished

                 career at CUNY, as his dad had a distinguished

                 career in the Senate.

                            I'm pleased to place his name in

                 nomination and urge my colleagues to support

                 it.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Is there

                 any other member wishing to speak on the

                 nomination?

                            Senator Lachman.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    I yield to

                 Senator Goodman.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The chair

                 recognizes Senator Goodman.

                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Mr. President,

                 it's my pleasure also to add a word on behalf

                 of Mr. Calandra, whom I've known for some

                 time, and to say to you that he has indeed a

                 distinguished career, having worked with the

                 noted law firm of Cravath, Swaine and Moore in

                 New York City for a few years.

                            And also the reports which emanate

                 from the much-conflicted CUNY board are that





                                                          4042



                 he is a very helpful and constructive member

                 of that important body at a time of

                 considerable difficulty which it confronts in

                 attempting to solve the problems of our

                 contemporary education picture and higher ed

                 in New York.

                            So I strongly and enthusiastically

                 support Senator Velella's nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Lachman.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Yes.  As a

                 Bronxite who at the age of one emigrated to

                 Brooklyn, I also would like to second the

                 nomination of Mr. Calandra.  I believe this is

                 his fourth year, or the beginning of his fifth

                 year as a member of the CUNY Board of

                 Trustees.  But I would also like to add a few

                 words.

                            About a week ago, the CUNY Board of

                 Trustees adopted a master plan.  At the very

                 least, it was a controversial plan.  But I

                 must give the chancellor of CUNY and the

                 members of CUNY credit that during the last

                 academic year, many of the problems that had

                 evolved previously have been in a sense met





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                 head-on, and compromises have been raised and

                 promulgated that do not please everyone, but

                 prevent CUNY from exploding, which was the

                 fear that many of us had previously.

                            Now, very briefly, the master plan

                 that was adopted had programs that would lead

                 CUNY into the 21st century, such as flagship

                 colleges, greater research, honors programs,

                 higher standards, upgrading of teacher

                 education.

                            It is absolutely essential that the

                 members of the CUNY Board of Trustees realize

                 that we do mean that access must go together

                 with excellence, that the CUNY tradition of

                 access has permitted many of the members of

                 this chamber, including me, to achieve a

                 college education.  At the same time, there is

                 nothing in access that negates excellence if

                 worked out properly.

                            Now, Henry Kaiser once said there

                 is no such thing as a problem, a problem is

                 only an opportunity in work clothes.

                 Mr. Calandra can expect to look forward to

                 several opportunities in work clothes.  One

                 would be negotiating with a new faculty union.





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                 The faculty contract expires, I believe, next

                 month.  That will not be an easy task and will

                 entail a great deal of Solomonic wisdom.

                            Two, Board of Education and CUNY

                 articulation, which has already been started

                 by Chancellor Goldstein and Chancellor Levy,

                 who, as a member of the Board of Regents prior

                 to his appointment as chancellor of the Board

                 of Education, approved the long-range program.

                            And, three, an increase in faculty

                 lines and positions, which is not the job of

                 the CUNY Board of Trustees but is the

                 responsibility of this State Legislature.  It

                 is my opinion unconscionable that the ratio of

                 full-time faculty lines to adjunct positions

                 has dipped below the 50 percent mark.  A red

                 signal appears.

                            Karen Hitchcock, the president of

                 SUNY Albany, is concerned that she only has

                 70 percent of her faculty on full-time lines.

                 Once you go below 50 percent, there is a great

                 danger.

                            And I hope and pray that next year

                 when we work on our budget, CUNY will receive

                 the necessary full-time faculty lines that





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                 will preserve it as a great institution of

                 academic learning in the United States.

                            Thank you kindly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Senator

                 Seabrook, on the nomination.

                            SENATOR SEABROOK:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            I rise in support of this

                 nomination of Mr. Calandra, who is a fellow

                 Bronxite, to continue on the CUNY board.  And

                 it is my hope that he will continue to do that

                 particular mission that was set forth, as his

                 father set forth, to bring about a sense of

                 diversity in the City University system and to

                 have a sense of Italian-Americans

                 participating much more in the City

                 University.

                            And so I rise to say that it is

                 important to continue that thrust of diversity

                 within the City University system and allow

                 continued access for those members who are

                 less fortunate to go to other private

                 institutions and to become a part of this

                 great diversity that's within the city of New

                 York.





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                            So that's why I rise in support of

                 this nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Any other

                 Senator wishing to speak on the nomination?

                            Hearing none, the question is on

                 the nomination of John J. Calandra, Esquire,

                 of the Bronx, to become a member of the Board

                 of Trustees of the City University of New

                 York.  All those in favor signify by saying

                 aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is unanimously reappointed and

                 confirmed.

                            Mr. Calandra is in the chamber with

                 us.  Mr. Calandra, congratulations and good

                 luck.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Secretary will continue to read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As members of the

                 Correction Medical Review Board, Michael M.





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                 Baden, M.D., of New York City; David Barry,

                 M.D., of Rochester.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 question is on the nomination.  All those in

                 favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominees are confirmed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

                 the Saratoga-Capital District State Park,

                 Recreation and Historic Preservation

                 Commission, Monica Bell, of Loudonville.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 question is on the nomination of Monica Bell,

                 of Loudonville, to become a member of the

                 Saratoga-Capital District State Park,

                 Recreation and Historic Preservation

                 Commission.  All those in favor signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")





                                                          4048



                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

                 the Thousand Islands State Park, Recreation

                 and Historic Preservation Commission,

                 Christopher R. Booth, of Plattsburgh.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 question is on the nomination of Christopher

                 R. Booth, of Plattsburgh, to become a member

                 of the Thousand Islands State Park, Recreation

                 and Historic Preservation Commission.  All

                 those in favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.





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                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

                 the New York State Hospital Review and

                 Planning Council, Craig A. Duncan, of Averill

                 Park.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Move the

                 nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 question is on the nomination of Craig A.

                 Duncan, of Averill Park, to become a member of

                 the New York State Hospital Review and

                 Planning Council.  All those in favor signify

                 by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

                 the Advisory Council to the Commission on the

                 Quality of Care for the Mentally Disabled,

                 Shirley B. Flowers, of Brooklyn.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Move the





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                 nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 question is on the nomination of Shirley B.

                 Flowers, of Brooklyn, to become a member of

                 the Advisory Council to the Commission on the

                 Quality of Care for the Mentally Disabled.

                 All those in favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

                 the Board of Visitors of the Binghamton

                 Psychiatric Center, Joyce Gioia, of

                 Binghamton.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Move the

                 nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 question is on the nomination of Joyce Gioia,

                 of Binghamton, to become a member of the Board

                 of Visitors of the Binghamton Psychiatric





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                 Center.  All those in favor signify by saying

                 aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As members of the

                 Creedmoor Psychiatric Center Board of

                 Visitors, Alfred Koral, of Jamaica, and Joel

                 A. Miele, Sr., of Howard Beach.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Move the

                 nominations.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 question is on the nominations of Alfred Koral

                 and Joel A. Miele, Sr., to become members of

                 the Board of Visitors of the Creedmoor

                 Psychiatric Center.  All those in favor of the

                 nominees signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.





                                                          4052



                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominees are confirmed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As members of the

                 Board of Visitors of the Kingsboro Psychiatric

                 Center, Shirley B. Flowers, of Brooklyn.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Move the

                 nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 question is on the nomination of Shirley B.

                 Flowers, of Brooklyn, to become a member of

                 the Board of Visitors of the Kingsboro

                 Psychiatric Center.  All those in favor

                 signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of





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                 the Board of Visitors of the South Beach

                 Psychiatric Center, Margaret Governo, of

                 Staten Island.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Move the

                 nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 question is on the nomination of Margaret

                 Governo, of Staten Island, to become a member

                 of the Board of Visitors of the South Beach

                 Psychiatric Center.  All those in favor

                 signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

                 the Board of Visitors of the Sunmount

                 Developmental Disabilities Services Office,

                 Richard W. Bossert, Ph.D., of North River.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Move the

                 nomination.





                                                          4054



                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 question is on the nomination of Richard W.

                 Bossert, Ph.D., of North River, to become a

                 member of the Board of Visitors of the

                 Sunmount Developmental Disabilities Services

                 Office.  All those in favor of the nomination

                 signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            Senator Fuschillo.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.

                 President, will you take up Calendar Number

                 1181, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Secretary will read Calendar Number 1181.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1181, by Senator Goodman, Senate Print 1188B,

                 an act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

                 prohibiting and penalizing identity theft.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The

                 Secretary will read the last section.





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                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Announce

                 the results.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            Senator Fuschillo.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.

                 President, is there any housekeeping at the

                 desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    The house

                 is clean.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    The house is

                 clean?

                            There being no further business to

                 come before the Senate, I move we adjourn

                 until Thursday, June 1st, at 10:00 a.m.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT KUHL:    Without

                 objection, the Senate stands adjourned until

                 tomorrow, Thursday, June 1st -- note the time

                 change -- at 10:00 a.m.





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                            (Whereupon, at 4:37 p.m., the

                 Senate adjourned.)