Regular Session - June 5, 2000

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                           NEW YORK STATE SENATE





                          THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD









                             ALBANY, NEW YORK

                               June 5, 2000

                                 3:12 p.m.





                              REGULAR SESSION







                 LT. GOVERNOR MARY O. DONOHUE, President

                 STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

















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                           P R O C E E D I N G S

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Senate will

                 come to order.

                            I ask everyone present to please

                 rise and repeat with me the Pledge of

                 Allegiance.

                            (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

                 the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    With us this

                 afternoon to do the invocation is Monsignor

                 George J. Cascelli, director of the Italian

                 Apostolate in the Archdiocese of New York, in

                 New York City.

                            MONSIGNOR CASCELLI:    Thank you.

                            It is an awesome responsibility to

                 assume representation of people who put their

                 trust in you.  We may very well offer prayers

                 to God, not that God will intervene in spite

                 of our efforts, but that the Lord will give us

                 the courage to supersede personal goals and to

                 fulfill the trust of those who brought you to

                 this chamber.

                            The call of the people is a sacred

                 trust, and that has been given to you.  And so

                 we pray.





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                            Lord, grant to those assembled here

                 the grace of Your spirit, that their

                 deliberations may be filled with the value of

                 human dignity, zealously protected for all and

                 not just a few; the value of honesty and

                 integrity in their thoughts and in their

                 actions; the value of wisdom, to search out

                 the truth; and the value of courage, to effect

                 the good.  In that way, they will carry out

                 Your command of universal love.

                            Amen.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Reading of the

                 Journal.

                            THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

                 Sunday, June 4, the Senate met pursuant to

                 adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday, June 3,

                 was read and approved.  On motion, Senate

                 adjourned.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Without

                 objection, the Journal stands approved as

                 read.

                            Presentation of petitions.

                            Messages from the Assembly.

                            Messages from the Governor.

                            Reports of standing committees.





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                            Reports of select committees.

                            Communications and reports from

                 state officers.

                            Motions and resolutions.

                            Senator McGee.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            Madam President, amendments are

                 offered to the following Third Reading

                 Calendar bills.

                            Sponsored by Senator Skelos, page

                 number 14, Calendar Number 466, Senate Print

                 902E;

                            Sponsored by Senator Seward, page

                 number 23, Calendar Number 749, Senate Print

                 7082;

                            Sponsored by Senator Spano, page

                 number 34, Calendar Number 963, Senate Print

                 1258A;

                            Sponsored by Senator Nozzolio, page

                 number 37, Calendar Number 1011, Senate Print

                 7380;

                            Sponsored by Senator Velella, page

                 number 37, Calendar Number 1013, Senate Print

                 7397;





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                            Sponsored by Senator LaValle, page

                 number 38, Calendar Number 1048, Senate Print

                 Number 7251A;

                            Sponsored by Senator Volker, page

                 number 44, Calendar Number 1134, Senate Print

                 A4097;

                            Sponsored by Senator LaValle, page

                 number 45, Calendar Number 1163, Senate Print

                 2046B;

                            Sponsored by Senator LaValle, page

                 number 46, Calendar Number 1165, Senate Print

                 3024A;

                            Sponsored by Senator Lack, page

                 number 46, Calendar Number 1176, Senate Print

                 7648;

                            Sponsored by Senator Wright, page

                 number 46, Calendar Number 1188, Senate Print

                 1880B;

                            Sponsored by Senator Bonacic, page

                 number 47, Calendar Number 1197, Senate Print

                 5199A;

                            Sponsored by Senator Saland, page

                 number 33, Calendar Number 948, Senate Print

                 6351;

                            Sponsored by Senator Seward, page





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                 number 47, Calendar Number 1218, Senate Print

                 2861;

                            Sponsored by Senator Stafford, page

                 number 50, Calendar Number 1249, Senate Print

                 7841;

                            Sponsored by Senator LaValle, page

                 number 48, Calendar Number 1224, Senate Print

                 4000.

                            Mr. President, I now move that

                 these bills retain their place on the order of

                 the Third Reading Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received, Senator McGee, and

                 all the bills will retain their place on the

                 Third Reading Calendar.

                            Senator Trunzo.

                            SENATOR TRUNZO:    Mr. President,

                 will you please put a sponsor's star on

                 Calendar Number 1239, Senate Bill 6845.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    A

                 sponsor star will be placed on Calendar 1239.

                            Senator Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Thank you,

                 Mr. President.

                            Senator Trunzo stole part of my





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                 lines.

                            But as long as we've done that, on

                 behalf of Senator Larkin, place a sponsor star

                 on Calendar Numbers 434 and 435.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    So

                 ordered.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    On behalf of

                 Senator Libous, please remove the sponsor star

                 from Calendar Number 203.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    So

                 ordered.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, I wish to call up my bill, Senate

                 Print Number 6929, recalled from the Assembly,

                 which is now at the desk.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 678, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 6929,

                 an act in relation to authorizing.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which the bill was passed.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will call the roll on





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                 reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, on behalf of Senator Alesi, I wish

                 to call up his bill, Print Number 3485A,

                 recalled from the Assembly, which is now at

                 the desk.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 43, by Senator Alesi, Senate Print 3485A, an

                 act to amend the State Administrative

                 Procedure Act.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which this bill was passed.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll on reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)





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                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, on behalf of Senator Skelos, I wish

                 to call up his bill, Print Number 5434A,

                 recalled from the Assembly, which is now at

                 the desk.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1024, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 5434A,

                 an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which this bill was passed.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll on reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Mr.

                 President, I now offer the following





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                 amendments.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Thank you,

                 sir.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Breslin.

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Mr. President,

                 on page 34 I offer the following amendments to

                 Calendar Number 956, Senate Print Number 6803,

                 and ask that the bill retain its place on the

                 Third Reading Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received, and the bill will

                 retain its place on the Third Reading

                 Calendar.

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 are there any substitutions at the desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Yes,

                 there are, Senator.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    If we could make





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                 them at this time.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the substitutions.

                            THE SECRETARY:    On page 13,

                 Senator Larkin moves to discharge, from the

                 Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 8515A

                 and substitute it for the identical Senate

                 Bill Number 5709A, Third Reading Calendar 435.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 substitution is ordered.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 if we could take up the noncontroversial

                 calendar at this time.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the noncontroversial

                 calendar.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 189, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 2942A, an

                 act to amend the General Municipal Law and

                 others, relating to the rate of interest to be

                 paid.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay it aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.





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                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 240, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 3987A, an

                 act to amend the Family Court Act and the

                 Criminal Procedure Law, in relation to family

                 offenses.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 90th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 282, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 3242A, an

                 act to amend the General Municipal Law, in

                 relation to authorizing the Elmira City School

                 District.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the





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                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 601, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 6992, an

                 act to amend Chapter 549 of the Laws of 1994

                 amending the Public Authorities Law.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 615, by Member of the Assembly Matusow,

                 Assembly Print Number 9516, an act to amend

                 the Education Law, in relation to library

                 policy.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,





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                 please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 621, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 6550A, an

                 act to amend the Retirement and Social

                 Security Law, in relation to ordinary death

                 benefits.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 724, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 1257, an

                 act to amend the Social Services Law, in

                 relation to requiring investigation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 120th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill





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                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 813, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 21A, an

                 act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to security services.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 52.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 821, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 3069C, an

                 act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules,

                 in relation to commencement.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the





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                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 832, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 6323, an

                 act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to designating security officers.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 52.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 847, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 795, an

                 act to amend the Executive Law, in relation to

                 removing the limitation on crime victims'

                 awards.





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                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay the bill

                 aside, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 849, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 3941, an

                 act to amend the Correction Law, in relation

                 to authorizing the Commissioner of

                 Correctional Services.

                            SENATOR HEVESI:    Lay it aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1087, by Senator Morahan, Senate Print 5773B,

                 an act enacting the Greenwood Lake Commission.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 7.  This

                 act shall take effect upon the enactment into

                 law by the State of New Jersey of legislation

                 having an identical effect.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.





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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1215, by Senator Sampson, Senate Print 7913,

                 an act authorizing the City of New York to

                 grant a retroactive partial tax exemption.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 52.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Dollinger recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1216, by Senator Velella, Senate Print 1426,

                 an act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

                 criminal nuisance in the first degree.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This





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                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 November.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1217, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 1501,

                 an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law

                 and the Administrative Code of the City of New

                 York, in relation to the conversion.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1219, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 3124A, an





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                 act to authorize the City of Hornell, County

                 of Steuben, to offer an optional twenty-year

                 retirement plan.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There is

                 a home rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1220, by Senator Marchi, Senate Print 3138A,

                 an act to amend the Retirement and Social

                 Security Law, in relation to employee

                 contributions.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There is

                 a home rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the





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                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1221, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 3247, an

                 act to amend the Retirement and Social

                 Security Law, in relation to the partial

                 direct deposit.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1222, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 3424, an

                 act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to motion to vacate judgment.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the





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                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1223, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 3828, an

                 act to amend the State Finance Law, in

                 relation to the eligibility of the New York

                 Business Development Corporation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number





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                 1225, by Senator Breslin, Senate Print 4187,

                 an act authorizing the assessor of the Town of

                 Bethlehem to accept an application for

                 exemption.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Dollinger recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1226, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 4910,

                 an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to designating code enforcement

                 officers.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the





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                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1227, by Senator Goodman, Senate Print 4993A,

                 an act to amend the State Finance Law, in

                 relation to requirement of good standing for

                 contractors.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1228, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 5200,

                 an act to amend the Civil Rights Law, in

                 relation to prohibiting the publishing or

                 broadcasting.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay it aside,

                 please.





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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1229, by Senator Alesi, Senate Print 5212, an

                 act to amend the Insurance Law, in relation to

                 the minimum remuneration.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1230, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 5450,

                 an act to amend the Public Officers Law, in

                 relation to waiving the residency requirement.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the





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                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1231, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print 5503,

                 an act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

                 expanding the list of predicate offenses.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 November.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 there will be an immediate meeting of the

                 Rules Committee in the Majority Conference

                 Room.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:





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                 Immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in

                 the Majority Conference Room.

                            The bill is passed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1232, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 5504, an

                 act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules

                 and the Family Court Act, in relation to

                 creation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay that bill

                 aside, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1233, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

                 Print Number 5938A, an act to amend the

                 Administrative Code of the City of New York,

                 in relation to credit in the police pension





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                 fund.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There is

                 a home rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1234, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 6237B,

                 an act to amend the Education Law, in relation

                 to prohibiting the use of Social Security

                 numbers.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay that bill

                 aside, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1235, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 6302, an





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                 act to amend Chapter 457 of the Laws of 1999

                 amending the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1236, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 6492, an

                 act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to authorizing the removal of certain

                 actions.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 November.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)





                                                          4167



                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1237, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 6587,

                 an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law,

                 in relation to prohibiting holders of

                 learner's permits.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1238, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 6588, an

                 act to provide for the enrollment of certain

                 deputy sheriffs of Chemung County.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There is

                 a home rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill





                                                          4168



                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1240, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 6962, an

                 act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to designating members of the New

                 York Guard as peace officers.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1241, by Senator Hoffmann, Senate Print 7549,

                 an act to amend the Public Officers Law, in

                 relation to residency qualifications.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.





                                                          4169



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1242, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 7561B, an

                 act to authorize the Department of

                 Correctional Services or the Commissioner of

                 General Services to sell or lease.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1243, by Senator Balboni, Senate Print 7580,

                 an act to amend the Judiciary Law, in relation

                 to statements to be filed.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay it aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1244, by Senator McGee, Senate Print 7622, an

                 act authorizing the City of Olean to





                                                          4170



                 discontinue the use of certain lands.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There is

                 a home rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1245, by Senator Stafford, Senate Print 7643,

                 an act in relation to revising a certain claim

                 in the Court of Claims.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Lay the bill

                 aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1246, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 7705, an

                 act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to seasonal park rangers.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the





                                                          4171



                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1247, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 7723, an

                 act to amend the Family Court Act, in relation

                 to the extension of orders of protection.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1248, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print





                                                          4172



                 7797, an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic

                 Law, in relation to the regulation of traffic.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1250, by Senator Morahan, Senate Print 7876,

                 an act in relation to persons who may practice

                 a profession within the state.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect September 15.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill





                                                          4173



                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1252, by Senator Velella, Senate Print 7948,

                 an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law and

                 the Penal Law, in relation to aggravated

                 criminal conduct.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 November.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            Senator Kuhl, that completes the

                 noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  May we now have the reading of the

                 controversial calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the controversial





                                                          4174



                 calendar.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 189, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 2942A, an

                 act to amend the General Municipal Law and

                 others, relating to the rate of interest to be

                 paid.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Explanation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Rath, an explanation has been requested of

                 Calendar Number 189 by Senator Dollinger.

                            SENATOR RATH:    The bill in front

                 of you is a bill that will help our

                 municipalities by changing the rates that are

                 necessary.  And the threshold will now be the

                 average accepted auction price of the 52-week

                 Treasury bill.

                            The interest rates on judgments are

                 now capped at 9 percent against

                 municipalities, and the rate will be adjusted

                 and tied to the auction price of the T bills.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Through you,

                 Mr. President, if the sponsor will yield just

                 to one question.





                                                          4175



                            As I understand this bill, Senator

                 Rath, this has a cap on the exposure at

                 9 percent.

                            SENATOR RATH:    Right.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    But if the

                 Treasury bills floated above that, if we

                 reached a point like we did in the early 1980s

                 when interest rates were extremely high, that

                 cap would reduce the exposure of the

                 municipality; isn't that correct?  So it

                 wouldn't -- it doesn't float.

                            SENATOR RATH:    Right.  It is

                 capped at 9 percent.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Okay.

                 Through you, Mr. President, just briefly on

                 the bill.

                            I've voted against this bill in the

                 past.  I'm going to vote against it again.  It

                 seems to me that the municipalities of this

                 state should be entitled to either one or the

                 other.  They should either have it pegged to

                 the Treasury bill and let it float wherever it

                 goes with no cap -- which means if it were

                 down low in a period of low inflation and low

                 interest rates, they should get the benefit of





                                                          4176



                 that.

                            But conversely, if the interest

                 rate goes above 9 percent and the government,

                 in essence, the municipalities that Senator

                 Rath is talking about get protection because

                 they can hold on to their money longer and the

                 litigant who's successfully sued them is then

                 capped on their interest return, they'll have

                 no incentive whatsoever to settle during the

                 appeals process.  And it seems to me that's

                 bad for the litigation system and it's not

                 fair.

                            I'd be willing to go with a cap, go

                 with a straight rate, or go with an absolute

                 float on the Treasury bills.  But it seems to

                 me it's not fair to put a cap on it when that

                 cap will only disadvantage those who litigate

                 with municipalities.

                            And at least in my experience,

                 litigating with municipalities is enormously

                 difficult to start.  It will even be worse if

                 there's a further incentive in the system for

                 them not to settle during the appeal process.

                            And I would suggest one or the

                 other would be fair.  But to have this hybrid





                                                          4177



                 system isn't fair to litigants who persevere

                 and succeed in claims against municipalities,

                 especially on issues involving eminent domain,

                 in which, in my judgment, too often

                 municipalities hold on to the cash till the

                 last possible second, waiting for the

                 homeowner who no longer has their land to

                 capitulate.

                            So I'm going to vote no and would

                 urge my colleagues to do the same, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 DeFrancisco.

                            SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    When I was

                 on the City Council in Syracuse many years

                 ago, we -- I remember distinctly the interest

                 rate used to be 3 percent.  And those -- it

                 was a wonderful thing for municipalities in

                 that if they lost a certiorari case, they

                 couldn't care less how long it took for the

                 case to get done, because they were really

                 borrowing money by a 3 percent rate.  Because

                 it was much cheaper than they could borrow

                 money for and actually pay the litigant what

                 they were entitled.





                                                          4178



                            And similarly, the same logic

                 applies to putting a cap on interest.  As

                 Senator Dollinger mentioned, if interest rates

                 go up to 18 percent or 17 percent, as they did

                 in the eighties, the cities are getting a

                 windfall.

                            The part of the bill that makes

                 eminent sense is let everything float.  Then

                 it's fair for everybody.  You're paying

                 basically the going rate.  But why put a

                 cap -- or a floor would be the other way, to

                 put a floor would be equally unfair.  So I

                 just think the floating concept makes a lot of

                 sense, but capping the rate is just unfair to

                 everyone other than the municipalities.

                            So I'm going to vote no on this.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 6.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

                 the negative on Calendar Number 189 are





                                                          4179



                 Senators Connor, Coppola, DeFrancisco,

                 Dollinger, Duane, Sampson, Schneiderman, A.

                 Smith, and Stavisky.  Also Senator Seabrook.

                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 10.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 615, by Member of the Assembly Matusow,

                 Assembly Print Number 9516, an act to amend

                 the Education Law, in relation to library

                 policy.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Explanation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, an explanation has been requested of

                 Calendar 615 by Senator Dollinger.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            Senator Dollinger, this is a bill

                 that would require public libraries to develop

                 some policies for Internet use for its

                 patrons.  Many of the libraries already do

                 this.  It's -- there can be some misuse of the

                 Internet access, particularly for children.

                 And this bill would direct all libraries to

                 address these issues at the local level.





                                                          4180



                            Incidentally, the Library

                 Development Board will be able to provide

                 assistance needed to help them develop this

                 policy.  It's basically to -- that if parents

                 do not want their children to -- this could be

                 noted on their library card or something to

                 that effect, and that they would not be able

                 to access certain inappropriate offerings on

                 the Internet.

                            There's no known opposition that I

                 know to this.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Duane.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  Would the sponsor yield, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, do you yield for a question?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Certainly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I'm wondering if

                 the sponsor knows whether or not this law is

                 in conflict with the American Library

                 Association's bill of rights.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    I don't think it





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                 is.  I don't know, but I don't think it is.

                            Because many of our public

                 libraries already have this policy in place.

                 And we are the mecca, if you will, of

                 libraries throughout the United States.  New

                 York is always leading the way when it comes

                 to libraries.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would -

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    And the

                 libraries develop their own policies too.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, do you yield for another question?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Certainly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  I just wanted to clarify that the

                 American Library Association has not weighed

                 in one way or the other on this legislation.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Not to my

                 knowledge, they haven't.  I think I would have

                 heard.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    And through you,

                 Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue





                                                          4182



                 to yield.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Yes, I will.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Has the New York

                 State Library Association or the union

                 representing librarians in the state weighed

                 in on this legislation?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    I don't have any

                 that I know of, no -- there's been no

                 objection.

                            The chairman of the -- chairperson

                 of the Library Committee in the Assembly is

                 the sponsor of it.  And as far as I know,

                 there has been no opposition.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would continue to

                 share.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator,

                 do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Certainly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I'm wondering if

                 the sponsor is aware that, for instance, the





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                 American Civil Liberties Union believes that

                 any kind of filtering is a de facto form of

                 censorship.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    There's no

                 censorship here.  It just asks that the local

                 libraries develop a policy for Internet use.

                 There's no censoring.  Basically, I think the

                 major thrust of this is for children.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would continue to

                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Yes, I will.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    But one of the

                 goals of the policies would be having to do

                 with what would be accessible on the Internet

                 to a user; is that correct?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Yes.  But it

                 depends -- go ahead.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    And then -

                 through you, Mr. President.  But that would

                 mean there would be some sort of filtering or





                                                          4184



                 censoring of what is available on the Internet

                 to certain users of the Internet at a terminal

                 in a library.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    No.  If there's

                 a group, Senator Duane, that is opposed to

                 censorship, it is the libraries of this -- of

                 the United States.  They are abhorrent to

                 censorship.  And I don't think that they have

                 this in mind.

                            I think that you and I think every

                 member of this chamber would agree that

                 there's certain material that is not

                 appropriate for children that is available on

                 the Internet.  And generally speaking, the

                 policy is that if a parent wishes their child

                 not to access certain material on the

                 Internet, it could be noted on their library

                 card or something to that effect.

                            This is a local policy.  And as I

                 said, many of your public libraries already

                 have this.  The thrust of this bill is that

                 all public libraries should have some sort of

                 a policy for use of the Internet.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would continue to





                                                          4185



                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Yes, I will.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Is the sponsor

                 aware that librarians generally and through

                 their official organizations do not care to be

                 the people who are the ones watching what it

                 is that children are and are not going to on

                 the Internet, that in fact it's their desire

                 not to be the police of the Internet in

                 libraries?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    That's exactly

                 why we've written in the bill that the board

                 of trustees will be setting up these policies.

                 We're not asking the librarians.  The board of

                 trustees of the libraries.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would continue to

                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Do you

                 yield, Senator Farley?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Yes, I will.





                                                          4186



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Has the sponsor

                 just said that librarians are explicitly not

                 supposed to be consulted when the policies are

                 being drawn up?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    I never said

                 that.  I just said that this would require

                 that the board of trustees of these libraries

                 set up a policy.  If they wish to consult with

                 the librarians, I'm sure that they will.

                            And to try to set something up -

                 incidentally, as I said earlier, that the

                 Library Development, they will provide

                 assistance to any library policy and help them

                 set up a policy that is workable throughout

                 this state, that is already working.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would continue to

                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, do you yield?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    I'm still

                 yielding.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The





                                                          4187



                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you.  If

                 it's -- I can't imagine that we would need a

                 policy to maintain not having a policy

                 regarding filtering on the Internet.  And so

                 is it not the sponsor's intention that

                 libraries look at putting filters on access to

                 the Internet for some of the users of the

                 Internet?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Apparently where

                 it's appropriate.

                            I'm not -- this legislation does

                 not direct what the policy will do.  We've

                 just said that they should have a policy.

                 Maybe a local library, a local public library

                 could come up with saying that we will have no

                 policy for restricting use of the Internet to

                 anybody.  That could be their policy,

                 apparently.

                            But I think this is -- as I said, I

                 can't think of any group that is more opposed

                 to censorship than the library community.

                 And -- but I'll tell you, the library

                 community, in my judgment, seems to be very

                 open to setting up a policy for Internet use,





                                                          4188



                 particularly to protect young children.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Through you, Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would continue to

                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    I'm still

                 yielding.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you.

                            In a scenario where a group of

                 trustees decide that in their libraries they

                 wouldn't want minors under the age of 16 to

                 have access to explicit information on family

                 planning or sex education, is it the sponsor's

                 intention that such a library board would be

                 able to make such a rule?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Senator Duane,

                 it is not my prerogative nor yours -- or at

                 least this legislation doesn't make it such -

                 that we will micromanage such a policy.

                            I think the policy that you're

                 talking about I doubt very much is any that is

                 in place anywhere, nor would it be.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    But through you,

                 Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue





                                                          4189



                 to yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, will you yield?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Yes, I'll yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    But there is a

                 possibility that a board of trustees could

                 make such a determination, and then we would

                 all be powerless to turn over that particular

                 policy made by a board of trustees.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    There's a

                 possibility of anything, that it may snow

                 today.  But I don't think that's very likely,

                 what you're saying.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you.

                            Mr. President, on the bill.  Thank

                 you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Duane, on the bill.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I'm very

                 concerned about starting on the slippery slope

                 of permitting this kind of filtering to occur

                 in our library system.  I'm very sure that

                 librarians do not want the job of policing





                                                          4190



                 what people are looking at on the Internet.

                 They do not feel that that's their job.

                 Rather than restricting access to information,

                 their whole mission is to provide information

                 to people who are seeking it.

                            In addition, what some may consider

                 appropriate information may not be the same as

                 what other people consider to be appropriate

                 information.

                            And so, for instance, there may be

                 people that don't want young people to have

                 access to information on family planning

                 information, because the words involved in

                 describing family planning may be deemed too

                 explicit to get through a filtering system.

                 And in fact, oftentimes slang words are words

                 which are deemed not appropriate for young

                 people, and yet they are in common usage when

                 it applies to issues of human sexuality.

                            Also, there's plenty of evidence

                 that, for instance, explicit AIDS information

                 or very nonexplicit information on issues

                 dealing with the lesbian, gay, bisexual and

                 transgendered community do not get through

                 filtering.  And yet everything that has to do





                                                          4191



                 with heterosexuality, which is just another

                 form of sexuality, is possible to look at on

                 the Internet.

                            Interestingly, very recently

                 someone put together a lot of the language

                 that is on, for instance, Focus on the

                 Families' webpage and some other religious and

                 conservative webpages, put it all together on

                 a separate webpage and tried to get it through

                 a filter, and it was turned down.

                            So I think whether you're looking

                 at this from the point of view of the right or

                 the left or civil liberties or not, this is a

                 slippery slope that we're embarking on.  And I

                 very much think that we should not pass this

                 legislation without having more in-depth

                 discussions with librarians, professional

                 librarians and their representatives, and also

                 those who defend the civil liberties of people

                 who live in our state.

                            So I would encourage my colleagues

                 at this point to vote no on this legislation

                 until we make sure that the safeguards of

                 people having access to knowledge are just

                 that, safeguards.





                                                          4192



                            Thank you, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            Senator Lachman.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Yeah, Mr.

                 President, I rise now to seek unanimous

                 consent to be recorded in the negative on

                 Calendar Number 189.  Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Without

                 objection, Senator Lachman will be recorded in

                 the negative on Calendar Number 189.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 621, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 6550A, an

                 act to amend the Retirement and Social





                                                          4193



                 Security Law, in relation to ordinary death

                 benefits.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Explanation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Spano, Senator Dollinger has requested an

                 explanation of Calendar 621.

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            This bill provides an increased

                 lump-sum death benefit to police officers and

                 to firefighters who are eligible for service

                 retirement under Tier 2.  What it does

                 basically is for -- it gives a greater death

                 benefit for those who would continue to be

                 employed after having reached retirement age.

                 And that would bring equity between Tier 1 and

                 Tier 2.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Mr.

                 President, will the sponsor yield for a

                 question?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Spano, do you yield?

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Yes.





                                                          4194



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Senator, is

                 this the same bill that passed last year that

                 was vetoed by the Governor?

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Yes, it is.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Through you,

                 Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to

                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Spano, do you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Is there

                 anything in this bill that addresses the issue

                 that was raised by the Governor in his veto

                 message?

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Well, this is the

                 same bill as we -- as the Governor had vetoed

                 last year.  The reason that we want to send

                 this bill to the Governor this year, Senator,

                 is because of some developments as a result of

                 the Governor's task force on public employee

                 pension systems.





                                                          4195



                            That task force issued a report

                 that recommended a remedy that's provided by

                 this bill.  And as a matter of fact, they

                 stated that because of the disparity between

                 the tiers, that we should -- those disparities

                 should be evaluated and addressed as

                 appropriate.

                            The task force specifically

                 mentions the inequity that's addressed by this

                 bill.  That's why we feel we have a better

                 shot of signing this year.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Through you,

                 Mr. President, if Senator Spano will continue

                 to yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Spano, do you yield?

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Is this bill

                 still opposed by the Mayor's Office of the

                 City of New York because of the possibility

                 that -- or not the possibility, but the fact

                 it would constitute an unfunded mandate to the

                 City of New York?





                                                          4196



                            SENATOR SPANO:    Yes, it is.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Okay.  Just

                 on the bill, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger, on the bill.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    I thank

                 Senator Spano for his compelling candor.

                            I believe it was two weeks ago that

                 we all sat here and debated Senator Rath's

                 bill.  You remember that constitutional

                 amendment.  We were going to have the people

                 tell us that we shouldn't have any unfunded

                 mandates -- no more, they're terrible.

                            In fact, I can even remember a

                 conversation with the presiding officer in

                 which he got up and talked about unfunded

                 mandates in Oneida County.

                            Senator Rath talked eloquently

                 about unfunded mandates in Erie County and

                 throughout New York State, and how these were

                 the root of the problem.  How someone said -

                 and I think it was Senator Rath said it's an

                 abuse of the legislative power for us to put

                 unfunded mandates on other communities, an

                 abuse of our power.





                                                          4197



                            I suggested to Senator Rath that if

                 the Majority in this house is continuing to

                 abuse its power, to just shift it over to this

                 side.  We won't abuse that power again.

                            Because I don't think by voting for

                 this bill that I'm going to abuse my power.  I

                 think it's the right thing to do.  I believe

                 it was the right thing to do last year when I

                 voted for it.  I think it's the right thing to

                 do this year.  I think creating that kind of

                 balance and integrity and parity in the system

                 is not a bad thing to do, even if our friends

                 in the City of New York disagree with us.

                            But what I would prefer to have

                 happen is that we stop having that senseless

                 debate about unfunded mandates and recognize

                 that we are from time to time going to tell

                 other levels of government what to do, because

                 it's the right thing.  And let's stop having

                 this nonsensical discussion about no more

                 unfunded mandates, they're an abuse of power

                 and they're a bad thing.

                            This is a good thing to do.  It's a

                 good thing to do as a matter of state policy.

                 It's a good thing to tell people who have





                                                          4198



                 worked hard in our system that they're

                 entitled to this benefit.  I defend our right

                 to do it.  I think it's the right thing to do.

                            I would just ask the Majority,

                 please don't bring up the unfunded mandate

                 constitutional amendment again.  Let's all be

                 big boys and play in the real world and say

                 we're doing it and be proud of the fact we've

                 got the power to do it and it's the right

                 thing to do.  And end this useless discussion

                 about, oh, no, we need the people to tell us

                 that unfunded mandates are bad.  Let's be

                 honest with each other.  Let's be honest with

                 the people of this state.

                            I'm voting aye, proudly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.





                                                          4199



                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 847, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 795, an

                 act to amend the Executive Law, in relation to

                 removing the limitation on crime victims'

                 awards.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Explanation,

                 please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Maltese, an explanation has been requested of

                 Calendar 847 by Senator Dollinger.

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            This bill removes the cap on the

                 crime victims' awards and allows for a

                 consideration of past earnings, awarding

                 compensation for lost earnings as a result of

                 the crime.

                            The bill also requires that the

                 Crime Victims Board take into consideration a

                 recently unemployed victim's solid record of

                 earnings in determining the amount of

                 compensation due to loss of earnings as the

                 result of a crime.

                            The present cap on the maximum loss

                 of earnings or support is $30,000.  This





                                                          4200



                 figure is woefully inadequate and insufficient

                 for some award recipients who are victims, as

                 well as the dependents of victims of violent

                 crimes.

                            Additionally, it is only fair that

                 the Crime Victims Board take into

                 consideration a recently unemployed victim's

                 solid record of earnings.  Many times

                 especially victims of spousal abuse, victims

                 of abuse have a spotty record of employment as

                 a result of the trauma they suffer as a result

                 of the crime.

                            This bill passed the Senate in 1999

                 59 to zero.  The Crime Victims Board,

                 presently chaired by Joan Cusack, is doing an

                 excellent job of reaching out to crime victims

                 to an extent never before done in the State of

                 New York.  I think this would further

                 effectuate their purpose and the laudatory

                 goals of the Crime Victims Board.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Mr.

                 President, if the sponsor would just yield for

                 a couple of questions.





                                                          4201



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Maltese, do you yield for a question?

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Through you,

                 Mr. President.

                            What's the current balance

                 available for awards to crime victims under

                 the crime victims compensation plan?

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Mr. President,

                 I'm not familiar with the balance.  But if

                 this figure were to exceed any balance

                 available, the Senate Majority would see that

                 that balance was sufficiently increased to

                 compensate victims of crimes.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Again through

                 you, Mr. President, if the sponsor will

                 continue to yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Maltese, do you yield?

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    My concern





                                                          4202



                 with this proposal is -- and I understand the

                 rationale in removing the cap, which I think

                 is a good idea.  My question is, does it raise

                 the possibility of larger awards in a specific

                 case and fewer awards overall?

                            I assume that the Crime Victims

                 Board is constantly dealing with a set amount

                 of funds from which they have to carve up into

                 so many pieces.  If we allow one highly

                 employed person to take an enormous amount out

                 of money because they've lost significant

                 wages, will this reduce the number of people

                 who will be able to claim from the fund?  In

                 other words, if we give more to one, will we

                 have less for everybody else?

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Mr. President,

                 I don't -- I understand the context of

                 Senator -- the Senator's question.  At the

                 same time, the amount of the awards has never

                 exceeded the amount available.

                            Also, the amount of awards is not a

                 primary factor in the determination of the

                 board.  I've had the occasion to speak both

                 with the members of the board and with the

                 chairwoman, Joan Cusack, many, many times in





                                                          4203



                 connection with crime awards.  This bill does

                 not alter the fact that the Crime Victims

                 Board takes into consideration a whole host of

                 other considerations, including even the

                 maximum amount of the awardee's home, the

                 maximum amount that the award would be -

                 pardon me, the amount that the victim had been

                 making in the past, the amount of funds that

                 the victim has available, all these factors

                 enter into their judgment as to what the award

                 would be.

                            And therefore, it does not seem

                 that the amount would be inordinate.  As a

                 matter of fact, what this seeks to do is

                 alleviate to some degree these victims'

                 problems financially when they've already been

                 victims of crimes, the most abused and

                 victimized of society.  And this would, I

                 think, help the people who were least able to

                 afford the trauma and the cost of the crime

                 that was perpetrated upon them.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Through you,

                 Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to

                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator





                                                          4204



                 Maltese, do you yield?

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Does this

                 bill include compensation to the crime victim

                 for lost future wages?

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    No, Mr.

                 President, through you, it does not.  That is

                 not one of the factors taken into

                 consideration.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Just on the

                 bill, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger, on the bill.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    I'm going to

                 vote in favor of this bill.  I am a bit

                 concerned, and I would just suggest to Senator

                 Maltese that the concern is that we do

                 appropriate a finite amount of money each

                 year.  This is not an unlimited bank, much

                 like our claims bank in claims brought

                 directly against the state.

                            But I have a concern that there

                 could be a substantial award given out of this





                                                          4205



                 fund which would reduce its availability for

                 the future for other, smaller claimants.

                            And my guess is that most of the

                 people who actually follow through and bring

                 claims before the Crime Victims Board probably

                 are people of some means, because they have to

                 find out about it, they probably have to

                 contact counsel.

                            We're really making the Crime

                 Victims Board into an adjudication agency.

                 We're trying to figure out what their past

                 wages were, what an appropriate level of

                 compensation to them would be.  This gets into

                 more conflicted procedures which we may have

                 to address at some time as we try to provide

                 them with those kinds of benefits.

                            But I do think that when the budget

                 rolls around and we look at the amount of

                 money we put into the compensation fund, we

                 may have to keep in mind that we're

                 substantially increasing the possibility of an

                 individual award of a significant amount.  A

                 crime victim with a very substantial income

                 could easily draw out a major portion of the

                 fund in one fell swoop.





                                                          4206



                            So my hope is that when we do the

                 budget next year, we'll look at that issue in

                 greater detail.  I'll vote in favor, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Onorato.

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    Mr. President,

                 will the sponsor yield to a question?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Maltese, do you yield for a question?

                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    Senator

                 Maltese, I have some visitors coming in from

                 all over the state, some of them in the

                 chamber tonight, coming up to the

                 Italian-American conference, festival, at Troy

                 this evening.

                            If someone should have the audacity

                 to commit a crime against anyone attempting to

                 attend that festival tonight and they were

                 seriously injured, would this law apply to

                 them?





                                                          4207



                            SENATOR MALTESE:    Yes, it

                 certainly would apply to all the distinguished

                 personages who may be in the chamber or who

                 may be attending the Troy festival tonight,

                 which begins at 6:30 in Troy, New York.

                            (Laughter.)

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    Thank you very

                 much, Senator.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 preceding was an unpaid announcement.

                            (Laughter.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 30th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 849, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 3941, an





                                                          4208



                 act to amend -

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Lay it aside for

                 the day, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1226, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 4910,

                 an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to designating.

                            SENATOR HEVESI:    Explanation.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Lay it aside for

                 the day, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1228, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 5200,

                 an act to amend the Civil Rights Law, in

                 relation to prohibiting.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Explanation,

                 please.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Lay it aside for

                 the day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number





                                                          4209



                 1232, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 5504, an

                 act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules

                 and the Family Court Act, in relation to

                 creation of a statutory parent-child

                 privilege.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    May we have

                 an explanation.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Lay that bill

                 aside for the day, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1234, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 6237B,

                 an act to amend the Education Law, in relation

                 to prohibiting.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Explanation,

                 Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, an explanation has been requested of

                 Calendar 1234 by Senator Dollinger.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            This is a piece of legislation that

                 came about as a result -- I am a law professor

                 of the State University of New York at Albany.





                                                          4210



                 And in speaking to some of my class -

                 actually, my wife spoke of this also -- they

                 use the Social Security number -- I'll just

                 use my university -- as an ID number.

                            It's on every class list.  And for

                 a semester, five or six of these class lists

                 are printed and thrown all over.  Sometimes

                 their Social Security numbers are posted -

                 they're not supposed to be -- with grades.

                 And the students were practically outraged

                 that their Social Security number was

                 propagated all over the university by

                 everybody.

                            And quite frankly, if I can get

                 ahold of your Social Security number and maybe

                 find out where you bank and a few other

                 things, I can find out all kinds of things

                 about you.

                            It's a thing that many of your

                 universities, many of your colleges have

                 stopped doing this, have stopped using the

                 Social Security number as an ID number.

                            We put this legislation in earlier

                 this year.  We had to make some corrections to

                 it, I believe this is -- yeah, this is a B





                                                          4211



                 modification -- to take care of the objections

                 of some of the schools, because there are

                 places where they have to have Social Security

                 numbers -- for assistantships, for

                 fellowships, for many things like that.

                            So we took care of that.  We also

                 took care of almost all of the objections that

                 some of the schools had to implementing this.

                            It's not a big deal.  There's a

                 number of people that work for the Senate

                 right today that I've got their Social

                 Security number right in my file.  And so they

                 better behave themselves.  But -- I may have

                 yours too, Rick.

                            But anyway, I think this is a good

                 piece of legislation.  It is supported, quite

                 frankly, by almost everybody I've run across.

                 And I think it's something whose time has

                 come.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Through you,

                 Mr. President.  Just one question for the

                 sponsor.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator





                                                          4212



                 Farley, do you yield for a question?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    I certainly

                 will.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Does this

                 prohibit the use of the Social Security number

                 as part of a sequence of numbers?  In other

                 words, I understand that this bill would

                 prohibit you from using my Social Security

                 number as my student identification number.

                 But does it also prohibit a college from using

                 five digits before my Social Security number

                 and three digits after it as a means of

                 identifying me?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    I don't think

                 so.  I truly don't think so.  Basically -- and

                 that's important, that question you asked.

                            The legislative intent here is to

                 stop schools from using a Social Security

                 number as an ID number.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    But again

                 through you, Mr. President -

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    We used to have

                 that on our license, you know, our driver's





                                                          4213



                 license, and we've stopped doing that.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Right.

                 Again, Mr. President, just so I make sure I

                 understand.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, do you yield for another question?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    I certainly do.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    This would

                 not prohibit a college from putting in four or

                 five numbers prior to your Social Security

                 number and then four or five numbers

                 afterwards.

                            I understand your point, and I

                 think it's a good one.  But I know there are

                 instances in which the nine-digit Social

                 Security number is used as part of a sequence

                 of numbers for identification purposes.  And

                 my question is whether this would ban that

                 too.  Because I would vote for a bill that

                 bans that as well, that practice.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Using any part

                 of a Social Security number?

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Using any





                                                          4214



                 part of it, even the last four digits.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Well, I don't

                 think that that's -- incidentally, that is -

                 I hear your point.  I don't think that that's

                 necessarily part of it, as I recall.  I don't

                 have counsel right here.  Just give me a

                 second.

                            But no, I don't think that would

                 stop it.  Because, you know, that could -

                 that number is totally insignificant and does

                 not relate to your Social Security number.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Mr.

                 President, I'm going to vote in favor of

                 Senator Farley's bill.  I think it's a good

                 idea.

                            I would just urge Senator Farley to

                 look at any portion of the Social Security

                 number being used for identification purposes.

                 I've seen it used with three or four numbers

                 in front of it and three or four numbers after

                 it as a part of a major sequence of numbers -

                 which is, I believe, the way it used to be

                 used in our driver's license.

                            And I've also seen the last four

                 digits of your Social Security number be





                                                          4215



                 appended to another number and it becomes

                 readily identifiable and gives out information

                 to which the general public is not entitled.

                            I would just ask you to take a look

                 and maybe, if this bill passes, becomes law

                 through the concurrence of the other house and

                 the Governor, to make a more expansive bill

                 that would prohibit any portion of my Social

                 Security number from being used for any

                 identification from me without my express

                 consent.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Montgomery.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Mr.

                 President, I would like to ask Senator Farley

                 a question.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Farley, do you yield for a question?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    I certainly

                 would be pleased to yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, thank

                 you, Mr. President.

                            Senator Farley, this is a very good





                                                          4216



                 bill, I think.  And I would just ask if you

                 would consider at some point in time extending

                 this even to high schools.  Because I'm now

                 finding that every piece of paper that I'm

                 asked to fill out for my son, they're asking

                 for his Social Security number.

                            So this is not only a problem at

                 the college level and university level, but it

                 is also problematic at the high school and

                 secondary school level.  So I would hope that

                 you could consider -

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    I think the bill

                 does do that.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Does it do

                 that already?

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    It says "no

                 public or private elementary or secondary

                 school or college."  So it does cover that.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Fair enough.

                 Thank you very much.  I'm all in favor of

                 that.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    And let me just

                 say as an addendum to this, I mentioned this

                 bill to my former chairman of Banks, Denny

                 Farrell, who is very enthusiastic over this





                                                          4217



                 bill and is carrying it over there.  And I

                 suspect that this just isn't one house, this

                 is something that's going to be signed into

                 law.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    I appreciate

                 that.  Thank you, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first day of

                 July.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1237, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 6587,

                 an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law,

                 in relation to prohibiting holders of

                 learner's permits.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    May we have a

                 brief explanation, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator





                                                          4218



                 Padavan, an explanation has been requested of

                 Calendar Number 1237.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            Currently the Commissioner of Motor

                 Vehicles designates areas where driving -

                 driver's testing takes place, which of course,

                 as we know, is a requirement.  Once passing

                 that test, you get a license.

                            What this proposed legislation

                 would require is that the schools that give

                 this driver education training, largely

                 commercial enterprises, do not train their

                 drivers in the area in which they are going to

                 be subsequently tested in.

                            Yes, that's the legislation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Through you,

                 Mr. President.  Actually, I'll tell you what.

                 I'll dispense with the questions, Mr.

                 President.

                            I thank Senator Padavan for his

                 excellent explanation.  We had a discussion

                 about this in the Rules Committee before.  I'm





                                                          4219



                 going to vote no.  I still think that a

                 driver, including my 16-year-old son, who got

                 his license last Thursday, should be able to

                 test his skills almost anywhere he wants.

                            And while I appreciate the

                 neighborhood problems that give rise to

                 Senator Padavan's concerns in Queens, I still

                 think that drivers shouldn't be barred -- even

                 a young driver with an adult next to them

                 shouldn't be barred from the test area, that

                 they should be able to drive through the test

                 area.

                            Just like, frankly, we do when take

                 a bar exam and we study for the bar exam, when

                 we take a flying test and we go up and fly

                 around in an airplane.

                            A lot of it has to do with

                 practicing your skills.  And it doesn't seem

                 to me that it's unfair, it doesn't seem to me

                 it's unconscionable that we would allow

                 drivers to test their skills in the roadways

                 that they're going to be tested on.

                            I appreciate the problems in

                 Queens, and I understand that this may be

                 burdensome to some neighborhoods.  I would





                                                          4220



                 suggest that the way to solve the problem is

                 to have the Department of Transportation or

                 the Department of Motor Vehicles move the site

                 once a month.

                            But from my point of view, this

                 just doesn't seem to be the right way to solve

                 the problem of teaching drivers how to drive.

                 They've got to learn on the road someday, and

                 they might as well -- they shouldn't be barred

                 from driving on the test area.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Padavan.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

                 I'm just disposed to respond to Senator

                 Dollinger's comments in this extent.

                            Yes, when you take your bar exam,

                 you look at old tests and get an idea.  But

                 you don't get the test that you're going to

                 take the day before or the week before.

                            Now, if a driver, a young driver -

                 and we all have gone through this with our

                 children -- is to be accurately and

                 appropriately tested, he should not be driven

                 around in that area previously, knowing where

                 every stop sign is, where every intersection





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                 is, where every light is, where every school

                 crossing is, and know that by rote.  Because

                 we want that person to be able to identify

                 those areas in any event, no matter where he

                 or she is driving.

                            So what this will help is, I think,

                 produce a better driver, and not someone who

                 is taking the tests in the same area that he's

                 going to be officially tested on days later.

                 That doesn't make any sense either.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Through you,

                 Mr. President, I'll just briefly respond.

                            I understand Senator Padavan's

                 point.  But these are the public streets.

                 These are parents who have paid their tax

                 dollars to have the public streets

                 constructed.  And under those circumstances,

                 we're really saying to parents, You can't have

                 your children drive on the public streets,

                 because this is the area in which we're

                 testing people.

                            I understand Senator Padavan's

                 point.  But from my point of view, these are





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                 the public streets, parents pay to build them.

                 If they want to teach their children how to

                 drive there, the fact that it's a test area

                 isn't enough to convince me that we should ban

                 them from the streets and make it a moving

                 violation for them to drive in that area.

                            Mr. President, I think this is one

                 about which minds can differ.  Whether my

                 position is reasonable or not may be up to

                 debate.  But I think this is one where we can

                 differ, and I'm going to vote in the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 90th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.  Nays,

                 2.  Senators Dollinger and Duane recorded in

                 the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1242, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 7561B, an





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                 act to authorize the Department of

                 Correctional Services or the Commissioner of

                 General Services to sell or lease.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Lay it aside for

                 the day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1243, by Senator Balboni, Senate Print 7580,

                 an act to amend the Judiciary Law, in relation

                 to statements to be filed by judges or

                 justices.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Explanation,

                 briefly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Balboni, an explanation has been requested of

                 Calendar 1243 by Senator Dollinger.

                            SENATOR BALBONI:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            This is a bill that would correct a

                 technical deficiency in the current law by

                 amending the Judiciary Law to reflect a change

                 that was made in 1996 in the CPLR whereby the





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                 requirement for certain information to be

                 filed by referees and other appointees would

                 have a minimum threshold level of $500 as

                 opposed to $200.

                            In 1996, pursuant to an Office of

                 Court Administration memo, carried by the

                 eminent Dale Volker, this amendment was made

                 and it was passed, but we did not include the

                 amendment to Section 35A of the Judiciary Law.

                 This is what this bill does.

                            Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Dollinger.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    Mr.

                 President, just briefly on the bill.

                            This bill recognizes the fact that

                 we substantially increase the compensation for

                 referees in foreclosures from $200 to $500.

                 And therefore, since we didn't ask them to

                 report at the $200 level, we're now raising it

                 up to $500.  Which I think is a good idea.

                            The only reason why I rise to speak

                 is just to say this is for lawyers who perform

                 foreclosures.  We allowed a substantial

                 increase in the fees.  I go back to an issue





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                 which we raised in the budget, which is we

                 have lawyers working in our family courts in

                 the most desperate position possible, and we

                 pay them $25 an hour.

                            This bill, which I'm going to vote

                 in favor of, should remind us that we have

                 other lawyers who are performing far more

                 serious, far more important work for which we

                 have never raised the statutory compensation.

                            And I would suggest, Senator

                 Balboni, while this is a good idea and gives

                 less paperwork for lawyers, we could achieve a

                 great deal by increasing fees in other areas

                 for lawyers.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Montgomery.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Mr.





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                 President.  I would like unanimous consent to

                 be recorded in Calendars Number 189 and also

                 Calendars 1216 and 1252.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Without

                 objection, Senator Montgomery will be recorded

                 in the negative on Calendars 1216, 1252, and

                 189.

                            The bill is passed.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1245, by Senator Stafford, Senate Print 7643,

                 an act in relation to revising a certain

                 claim.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Dollinger recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill





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                 is passed.

                            Senator Kuhl, that completes the

                 reading of the controversial calendar.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Mr. President, may

                 we return to the order of reports of standing

                 committees.  I understand there's a report of

                 the Rules Committee at the desk.  I ask that

                 it be read.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Reports

                 of standing committees.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Bruno,

                 from the Committee on Rules, reports the

                 following bills:

                            Senate Print 1605, by Senator

                 Alesi, an act to amend the General Business

                 Law;

                            2283, by Senator Goodman, an act to

                 amend the Transportation Law;

                            2699, by Senator Lachman, an act to

                 amend the Public Authorities Law;

                            3822, by Senator Volker, an act to

                 amend the Penal Law;

                            4021A, by Senator Nozzolio, an act

                 to amend the Criminal Procedure Law and the





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                 Penal Law;

                            4185, by Senator Velella, an act to

                 amend the Real Property Law;

                            5326, by Senator Leibell, an act to

                 amend the Military Law;

                            6245, by Senator Velella, an act to

                 amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules;

                            6363, by Senator Seward, an act to

                 amend the State Finance Law;

                            6821, by Senator Skelos, an act to

                 amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules;

                            6958, by Senator Padavan, an act to

                 amend the Penal Law;

                            7072, by Senator Leibell, an act to

                 amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules;

                            7250, by Senator Hannon, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            7261A, by Senator Seward, an act to

                 amend the Insurance Law;

                            7419, by Senator Velella, an act to

                 amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

                            7515, by Senator Goodman, an act to

                 amend the Penal Law;

                            7630, by Senator Alesi, an act to

                 amend the Criminal Procedure Law;





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                            7645, by Senator Stafford, an act

                 to amend the Education Law;

                            7680A, by Senator Rath, an act to

                 amend the Public Authorities Law and Chapter

                 579 of the Laws of 1999;

                            7701, by Senator Balboni, an act to

                 amend the General Business Law;

                            7773, by Senator Leibell, an act to

                 amend the Election Law;

                            7821, by Senator Padavan, an act to

                 amend the Highway Law;

                            7844, by Senator LaValle, an act to

                 amend the Executive Law;

                            7867, by Senator Rath, an act to

                 amend the Real Property Tax Law and the

                 Agriculture and Markets Law;

                            7899, by Senator Morahan, an act to

                 amend the Education Law;

                            And 7949, by Senator Marcellino, an

                 act to amend the Executive Law and others.

                            All bills ordered direct to third

                 reading.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Without

                 objection, all bills directly to third

                 reading.





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                            SENATOR KUHL:    Mr. President, I

                 move we accept the report of the Rules

                 Committee.

                            SENATOR DOLLINGER:    No objection.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the motion to accept the report

                 of the Rules Committee.  All those in favor

                 signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Is there any

                 housekeeping at the desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    We have

                 one motion, Senator.

                            Senator Seward.

                            SENATOR SEWARD:    Yes.  Mr.

                 President, on page 52 I offer the following

                 amendments to Calendar Number 995, Senate

                 Print Number 7127A, and ask that the said bill

                 retain its place on the Third Reading





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                 Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received, and the bill will

                 retain its place on the Third Reading

                 Calendar.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, there being no further business to

                 come before the Senate, I move we adjourn

                 until tomorrow, Tuesday, June 6th, at

                 3:00 p.m.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    On

                 motion, the Senate stands adjourned until

                 Tuesday, June 6th, at 3:00 p.m.

                            (Whereupon, at 4:30 p.m., the

                 Senate adjourned.)