Regular Session - October 15, 2001

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                           NEW YORK STATE SENATE





                          THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD









                             ALBANY, NEW YORK

                             October 15, 2001

                                 3:26 p.m.





                              REGULAR SESSION







                 SENATOR RAYMOND A. MEIER, Acting President

                 STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

















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                           P R O C E E D I N G S

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Senate will come to order.

                            Will everyone present please rise

                 and repeat with me the Pledge of Allegiance to

                 the Flag.

                            (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

                 the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 invocation will be offered by the Reverend

                 Peter G. Young.

                            REVEREND YOUNG:    Thank you,

                 Senator.

                            Let us pray.  Dear God, as we

                 gather to consider the challenging leadership

                 imposed on our Senators today by the

                 consequences of the Ground Zero attack, we

                 call upon Your wisdom, Your guidance and

                 blessings to these legislators and to the

                 efforts to assist them and all of our New York

                 State citizens.  Rebuilding from the ashes

                 will be best accomplished by a united effort

                 of all of our citizens.

                            May our prayers be heard today by

                 You, O God, for Your special compassion for





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                 those who suffer most with the loss of their

                 loved ones.  But Your encouragement is needed

                 to show the effectiveness of our government

                 and our ability to pull together to respond to

                 the recovery of our spirit of pride, of being

                 a New York State American.

                            We ask You to bless this now and

                 forever.  Amen.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Reading

                 of the Journal.

                            THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

                 Sunday, October 14, the Senate met pursuant to

                 adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday,

                 October 13, was read and approved.  On motion,

                 Senate adjourned.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Without

                 objection, the Journal stands approved as

                 read.

                            Presentation of petitions.

                            Messages from the Assembly.

                            Messages from the Governor.

                            Reports of standing committees.

                            Reports of select committees.

                            Communications and reports from

                 state officers.





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                            Motions and resolutions.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 at this time if we could adopt the Resolution

                 Calendar, with the exception of Resolution

                 3252.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the adoption of the Resolution

                 Calendar, with the exception of Resolution

                 3252.  All in favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Resolution Calendar, with exception, is

                 adopted.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 there are a number of committee meetings that

                 we're going to have to call.  So at this time

                 there will be an immediate meeting of the

                 Judiciary Committee in the Majority Conference

                 Room.

                            And the Senate will stand at ease.





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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

                 Immediate meeting of the Judiciary Committee

                 in the Majority Conference Room.

                            The Senate will stand at ease.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

                 ease at 3:30 p.m.)

                            (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

                 at 3:47 p.m.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 if we could go back to motions and

                 resolutions, I believe there are two

                 privileged resolutions at the desk by Senator

                 Goodman.  I ask that the titles be read and

                 move for their immediate adoption.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Motions

                 and resolutions.

                            The Secretary will read the titles.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 Goodman, Legislative Resolution Number 3312,

                 mourning the death of Lewis Rudin,

                 distinguished citizen and devoted member of

                 his community.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator





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                 Goodman.

                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Mr. President,

                 it's not my normal habit to speak in regard to

                 these resolutions, but today I would like to

                 make an exception, with your gracious

                 indulgence, for just a moment, in regard to

                 the two that you have before you.

                            Lewis Rudin was an extraordinary

                 New Yorker, a man of immense personal charm

                 and capacity.  I don't think there was ever an

                 occasion in which anyone asked him to do

                 something for the City of New York in which he

                 declined to do so.

                            He was an enormously successful

                 realtor, an owner of many major buildings in

                 New York City, but even more significant, he

                 was a philanthropist of a high order and a

                 real humanitarian.  I nicknamed him the

                 "Honorary Mayor of the City of New York"

                 because there was hardly ever an occasion

                 which I attended at which Lew Rudin was not

                 also there to give his support to many worthy

                 causes.

                            He was an outstanding individual of

                 great warmth and humanitarian instincts, a





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                 person who will be sorely missed in New York.

                 And it's with a great feeling of personal loss

                 that I stand today to salute him and ask the

                 house to pass this resolution unanimously.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the resolution.  All those in

                 favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 resolution is adopted.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 Goodman, Legislative Resolution Number 3313,

                 mourning the death of Isaac Stern,

                 distinguished citizen and devoted member of

                 his community.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Goodman.

                            SENATOR GOODMAN:    Mr. President,

                 the name "Isaac Stern" I'm sure is familiar to

                 virtually every member of this house.  He was





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                 a distinguished violinist of a high order, an

                 individual whose musical talent alone would

                 have been enough to cause us to salute him.

                            But above and beyond this, he was a

                 man of amazing characteristics whose personal

                 dedication saved Carnegie Hall from the

                 wrecker's ball many years ago and who was

                 president of Carnegie Hall over several

                 decades, was good enough to provide it with

                 the type of leadership which makes it a

                 preeminent institution in the world of music

                 today.

                            Isaac Stern was a marvelously warm

                 human being, well known for his interest in

                 training young musicians.  As a mentor and

                 dear friend to many, he was also well known

                 and famous for his trip to China, where he

                 worked with youngsters throughout China and

                 gained great goodwill for the United States of

                 America by virtue of his mentoring of those

                 young musicians in China itself.

                            I knew him as a personal friend

                 over 40 years during the time which I served

                 on the board of Carnegie Hall.  And I can only

                 say that his departure leaves a tremendous





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                 gap, both emotionally and in terms of the

                 leadership which he was good enough to provide

                 throughout a long and productive life.

                            I called him "Supermensch."  He was

                 a remarkably fine person, much beloved by all

                 who came into contact with him.  I salute him

                 most warmly and shall always carry him in my

                 recollection with the highest esteem and

                 regard and affection.

                            Thank you, sir.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the resolution.  All those in

                 favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 resolution is adopted.

                            Senator Hassell-Thompson.

                            SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:    Thank

                 you, Mr. President.

                            I move that the following bills be

                 discharged from their respective committees

                 and be recommitted with instructions to strike





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                 the enacting clause:  Senate Number 5505.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    So

                 ordered.

                            SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:    Thank

                 you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    There will be an

                 immediate meeting of the Labor Committee in

                 the Majority Conference Room.

                            And we'll stand at ease.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

                 Immediate meeting of the Labor Committee in

                 the Majority Conference Room.

                            The Senate will stand at ease.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

                 ease at 3:51 p.m.)

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

                 ease at 3:55 p.m.)

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 if we could return to reports of standing

                 committees, I believe there's a report of the

                 Judiciary Committee at the desk.

                            I ask that it be read at this time.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Reports





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                 of standing committees.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Lack,

                 from the Committee on Judiciary, reports the

                 following nomination.

                            As a justice of the Supreme Court

                 of the Second Judicial District, Robert J.

                 Collini, of Staten Island.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Lack.

                            SENATOR LACK:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I rise to move the nomination of

                 Robert J. Collini, of Staten Island, as a

                 justice of the Supreme Court for the Second

                 Judicial District.

                            We received the nomination from the

                 Governor.  The staff of the committee has

                 examined the credentials of the candidate, and

                 they were found perfectly in order.  He

                 appeared before the full committee earlier

                 this afternoon, was unanimously moved from the

                 committee to the floor.

                            And it is with great pleasure that

                 I yield for purposes of a second to Senator





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                 Marchi.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Marchi.

                            SENATOR MARCHI:    I'm very

                 pleased, Mr. President, to encourage a

                 unanimous response of this distinguished body

                 to this candidacy.

                            I know Mr. Collini -- Judge Collini

                 it will be very shortly, I trust.  And given

                 his background, I believe that he is going to

                 make a distinctive contribution to the

                 deliberations of the Supreme Court.

                            He has a wonderful academic

                 background:  a Phi Beta Kappa student, moved

                 on to various administrative and other

                 responsibilities and responsibilities in the

                 profession with great distinction and with

                 great effectiveness.

                            And he also found time to be active

                 in the State Guard and to be a member and to

                 attend the War College.  Having attended the

                 Naval College, I know that that is a very

                 distinctive body, and it's another aspect of

                 the multifaceted contributions that he brings

                 to the office.





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                            So I encourage you, the record is

                 ample and full, both professionally, social

                 involvement, and great sensitivity to the

                 requirements that are placed on a Supreme

                 Court judge.

                            So I'm very pleased.  I believe I

                 also have another -- I believe Senator

                 Gentile, since he also comes from, knows the

                 area very well, would probably like to say

                 something.  So if there's no objection.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Gentile.

                            SENATOR GENTILE:    Yes, thank you,

                 Mr. President.

                            I too want to add my voice to that

                 of Senator Marchi's in congratulating the

                 Governor for nominating Robert Collini.

                            You hope that in nominating someone

                 to the bench you'd find someone who reflects

                 the values and the social and civic

                 involvement in the area in which he will

                 serve.  Robert Collini does that to the T.

                            He has certainly been active in the

                 judicial district in which he will serve,

                 having both in the Brooklyn end of the





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                 district and the Staten Island end of the

                 district.  His family, his parents still live

                 in my portion of the district in Bay Ridge,

                 Brooklyn.  And certainly he has been active

                 with his family in Staten Island.

                            In the Bar Association, he served

                 on both the homicide ATB panel and the ATB

                 felony panel, panels which are getting harder

                 and harder for attorneys to serve.

                            So certainly I believe that

                 Mr. Collini has shown a commitment to the

                 people of the judicial district both in word

                 and deed.  So he will be a tremendous asset to

                 our Supreme Court bench.

                            So certainly I want to commend the

                 Governor and add my voice to that of Senator

                 Lack and Senator Marchi in seconding this

                 nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Any

                 other member wish to be heard?

                            The question is on the nomination

                 of Robert J. Collini as a justice of the

                 Supreme Court of the Second Judicial District.

                 All those in favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")





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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 nominee is unanimously confirmed.

                            Judge Collini is with us in the

                 gallery today.  He is joined by his wife, Ann;

                 by his daughter, Victoria; by his parents, Dr.

                 and Mrs. Francis Collini, and by his brothers,

                 John and Joseph Collini.

                            Justice Collini, congratulations

                 and good wishes for your job.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Hannon.

                            SENATOR HANNON:    Mr. President,

                 would you announce an immediate meeting of the

                 Higher Education Committee in the Majority

                 Conference Room and then ask that the Senate

                 stand at ease.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There

                 will be a meeting of the Higher Education

                 Committee in the Majority Conference Room.

                            The Senate will stand at ease.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at





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                 ease at 4:01 p.m.)

                            (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

                 at 4:20 p.m.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Mr. President,

                 there will be an immediate meeting of the

                 Finance Committee in the Senate Conference

                 Room.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

                 Immediate meeting of the Finance Committee in

                 the Majority Conference Room.

                            The Senate will stand at ease.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

                 ease at 4:21 p.m.)

                            (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

                 at 4:53 p.m.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 if we could return to reports of standing

                 committees, I believe there's a report of the

                 Finance Committee at the desk.  I ask that it

                 be read at this time.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Reports





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                 of standing committees.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Stafford,

                 from the Committee on Finance, reports the

                 following nominations.

                            As a member of the Board of

                 Trustees of the State University of New York,

                 Gordon R. Gross, Esquire, of Amherst.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Stafford.

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    Mr. President,

                 we again have a fine, an excellent group of

                 nominees.

                            And it's a pleasure for me on the

                 first nominee to yield to the Senator from the

                 west, Senator Rath.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Rath.

                            SENATOR RATH:    The Senator from

                 the west?  Senator Stafford, thank you.  I

                 didn't wear my cowboy boots today.  But if

                 that's what I'm going to be, I guess I'll have

                 to look the part.

                            But it gives me a great deal of

                 pleasure to rise and to second the nomination





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                 of Gordon R. Gross as a trustee of the SUNY

                 Board of Trustees.  Mr. Gross is here with us

                 today in the gallery, and Mr. Gross and I have

                 been friends for a very long time.

                            And if you've had the pleasure of

                 looking over the resume that was sent through

                 in the formalities of the nomination, you

                 would see that there wouldn't be anyone much

                 in Western New York that would not have known

                 Mr. Gross, because there aren't too many

                 organizations that he hasn't been a part of.

                 From the arts community to the philanthropic

                 community to the education community to the

                 legal and business community, Mr. Gross has

                 been there in all of them and served with

                 distinction, and usually as a chairman or in a

                 position of responsibility in the

                 organizations.

                            Which brings me to the point that I

                 want to make when I urge you all to support

                 Mr. Gross.  For one thing, I was reminded by

                 Senator Stavisky that it's important to have

                 SUNY graduates.  And I would like to thank

                 you, Senator Stavisky, for reminding me.  And

                 yes, Mr. Gross is a graduate of SUNY, and so





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                 am I.  And I think that we all kind of feel a

                 camaraderie for really understanding SUNY.

                            But Mr. Gross said clearly when he

                 was interviewed by the Higher Education

                 Committee about his interest in moving the

                 system forward and looking to the interactions

                 of the various parts of the SUNY system.  And

                 I think because of the depth of his experience

                 in our community and around throughout various

                 parts of the state with the organizations that

                 he is perfectly qualified to do just that.

                            I look forward to working with him

                 and recommend him to you for your

                 consideration.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Volker.

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    I'll be very

                 brief.

                            Gordon Gross is an old friend who

                 is a constituent of Senator Rath's.  He's one

                 of the most distinguished lawyers in the

                 Western New York area.

                            As I said at the committee meeting,

                 he's probably got one of the biggest hearts

                 really in Western New York.  He's been





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                 contributing to all sorts of charities and

                 groups in Western New York.  And there's no

                 question that he'll make an excellent member

                 of the Board of Trustees of SUNY.

                            So I highly commend the Governor

                 and wish Gordy good luck.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Any

                 other member wish to be heard on the

                 nomination?

                            If you want to be heard on these,

                 please make yourself known to the chair so I

                 can recognize you.

                            Senator Lachman.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Mr. President,

                 thank you kindly.

                            I am at a disadvantage of not

                 having known the nominee before the Higher

                 Education and the Finance Committee met today.

                            I just want to reiterate one point

                 and make a suggestion that I did not make at

                 the committee.  Last year and the year before,

                 there were anti-Semitic and anti-Asian

                 incidents occurring at one of the major SUNY

                 campuses in the State of New York.

                 Fortunately, the governor and the chancellor





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                 and the chairman of the Board of Trustees

                 acted immediately, and over a period of weeks

                 these incidents stopped occurring.

                            However, we are now basically in a

                 state of war.  This is not a terrible act,

                 it's a terrorist act, it's an act of war.  And

                 in some campuses throughout the country, there

                 have been some minor incidents against people

                 of different ethnic, racial, and religious

                 groups.

                            And I would suggest to Mr. Gross,

                 especially because his background has also

                 been involved in intergroup relations and

                 interfaith relations, as well as a superb

                 background in law, that he suggest to his

                 colleagues on the SUNY Board of Trustees that

                 they promulgate regulations now, in

                 anticipation -- and we hope and pray this will

                 never occur -- that there might be some

                 incidents at the largest state university in

                 the United States as an after-effect to the

                 terrible tragedy that occurred on

                 September 11th.

                            It's always better to act based

                 upon regulations that exist than react to





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                 regulations that don't exist when we have

                 hatred on campus, and at the same time attempt

                 to preserve the civil liberties and civil

                 rights that make our society unique in the

                 nation.

                            Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    All

                 those in favor of confirming Gordon G. Gross

                 as a member of the SUNY Board of Trustees

                 signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            Mr. Gross is with us today in the

                 gallery.

                            And we welcome you, sir, and wish

                 you well with your important duties.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

                 the Industrial Board of Appeals, Kristin A.





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                 Mackay, of Rocky Point.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 LaValle.

                            SENATOR LAVALLE:    Mr. President,

                 it gives me great pleasure to rise to move the

                 nomination of Kristin Mackay.

                            First let me say that I commend the

                 Governor for this appointment.  Kristin is a

                 very bright, articulate person who's been

                 involved in government, understands the

                 dynamics of government, policy-making, and

                 more importantly, I think, how stakeholders

                 interact in the process.

                            So she will make an excellent

                 member of the Industrial Board of Appeals, and

                 I move her nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Lack.

                            SENATOR LACK:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I rise to also second the

                 nomination of Kristin A. Mackay of Rocky

                 Point.  She has worked for our county

                 executive, Bob Gaffney.  Suffolk County has

                 done an excellent job.





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                            As a former chair of the Labor

                 Committee, I'm very happy that a nice local

                 person from Suffolk County will now be sitting

                 on the Industrial Board of Appeals.  It is an

                 organization that requires a great

                 understanding of people, their interactions

                 and how they work and the work to be done.

                            And I think the Governor has made

                 an excellent choice by her appointment to the

                 Board of Appeals, and I certainly look forward

                 to observing and watching the work she does on

                 that board.

                            And particularly since it's a part

                 of the Department of Labor, and of course the

                 commissioner to the Department of Labor is

                 another old local Suffolk County -- I don't

                 want to say old, I'll get killed -- Suffolk

                 County person, and they will work very well

                 together.

                            So congratulations to a very good

                 appointment.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the confirmation of Kristin A.

                 Mackay as a member of the Industrial Board of

                 Appeals.  All those in favor signify by saying





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                 aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 nominee is unanimously confirmed.

                            Kristin Mackay is with us today in

                 the gallery.  She is accompanied by her

                 husband, Frank Mackay.

                            And we welcome you and your

                 husband, and we wish you well with your duties

                 as you are confirmed today.  Thank you.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will continue to read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As Major General,

                 New York Air National Guard, Thomas P.

                 Maguire, Jr., of Walden.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Larkin.

                            SENATOR LARKIN:    Mr. President,

                 it's indeed an honor and privilege for me to

                 be here today putting forth the nomination of

                 General Maguire to be the commander of the





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                 New York State Air National Guard.

                            I've had the privilege of knowing

                 General Maguire for over 20 years.  This is an

                 individual that upon completing of his ROTC

                 training at Holy Cross, he entered in the

                 United States Air Force.

                            General Maguire distinguished

                 himself in combat in Vietnam.  Returning home,

                 he distinguished himself again by joining a

                 guard unit.  He proceeded in that guard unit

                 from the bottom up.

                            He commanded, prior to this

                 assignment, the 105th Air Guard at Stewart.

                 So most of us in the Hudson Valley are well

                 aware of him.

                            General Maguire is considered one

                 of the topnotch pilots in America -- over

                 5,000 hours.  When we were talking a couple of

                 years ago about some problems in the Caribbean

                 area due to typhoons, hurricanes, the airlift

                 responsibility came to then Colonel Maguire

                 and later General Maguire.

                            During Desert Storm, his troops

                 were the first called upon to the airlift.

                 They're now today called upon to support us in





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                 our latest venture.

                            General Maguire is the type of an

                 individual that is what we call a soldier's

                 soldier.  You can't find any person that

                 served with him in the 105th or, in his

                 younger days, in the squadron who wouldn't

                 look upon General Maguire and say:  "Maguire

                 is with us, we can't go wrong.  We have a

                 leader."

                            When the ambassador to one of our

                 neighboring countries came to Stewart a year

                 and a half ago, he didn't seek out the

                 governor, he didn't seek out Vinnie Leibell

                 and John Bonacic or me.  He said, "How can I

                 get in touch with General Maguire?"  He said,

                 "Because I want to tell him that without his

                 energetic ideas, our people would have

                 starved."

                            The problem was that some people in

                 Washington wanted to use great big large

                 aircraft to go down into a country whose

                 airfields had been washed away.  General

                 Maguire's people put together a plan so that

                 the large aircraft could go to another area

                 within the country and then be reloaded on





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                 smaller aircraft so they wouldn't have to be

                 dropped and the cases broken and everything,

                 and the project was completed on time.

                            And what he said was, "I'm honored

                 to know you."  And, you know, that comes from

                 an ambassador.  Who doesn't deal with me,

                 doesn't deal with General Maguire, but had the

                 decency and courtesy to make a personal trip

                 to Stewart to seek out General Maguire and

                 express appreciation of this country.

                            If you look at his distinguished

                 record that every one of you have on your

                 desk, you will see that here is a gentleman

                 who has given his whole life to our armed

                 forces.  And when the general was selected by

                 the Governor to be the adjutant general, many

                 of us were pleased -- some sad, because he

                 wouldn't be around Stewart as much.

                            But just looking since the 11th of

                 September, with his oversight of SEMA and what

                 they've done and what his troops have done and

                 what role they played at Stewart, we're

                 fortunate to have a man so distinguished and

                 totally committed, and, yes, to the sacrifice

                 of his family, because he took an oath for





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                 this country.  And now he has taken the next

                 step in his career to be the adjutant general

                 of this state.

                            We are very fortunate that this

                 individual would want to take on this

                 assignment at these dark days of our country.

                 I'm honored to put forward the nomination of

                 General Maguire to be the adjutant general of

                 the State of New York.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Leibell.

                            SENATOR LEIBELL:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  I'm very pleased to join with my

                 colleague Senator Larkin to speak on this

                 nomination.

                            I have had the good fortune to know

                 General Maguire and his family for probably

                 over 25 years.  I knew his dad, who was one of

                 the preeminent builders in the state of

                 New York.  I know many of his siblings.  I

                 know what a wonderful family they are.  I also

                 know what a fine military person this has

                 been.

                            We have always known how important

                 the position of adjutant general is.  We have





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                 also known of the many crises in which we have

                 called upon our national guard and reserves in

                 New York State in the past.  For the last few

                 weeks we have seen just how critically

                 important this force is, as a domestic force

                 and as a force for our foreign ventures as

                 well.

                            We have here the name that the

                 Governor has submitted to us of a person of

                 the highest standards.  We are very, very

                 fortunate and very blessed.  I think for any

                 person in this state who has a son or daughter

                 who has the good fortune and the honor to wear

                 our country's uniform, they can have the

                 greatest confidence in our leader, General

                 Maguire.  He had served us well in the past

                 and he will continue to do so in the future.

                            I move his nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Any

                 other Senator wish to be heard?

                            The question is on the confirmation

                 of Thomas P. Maguire, Jr., Major General,

                 New York State Air National Guard.  All those

                 in favor of the confirmation signify by saying

                 aye.





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                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 nominee is unanimously confirmed.

                            General Maguire is with us today in

                 the gallery.

                            And we congratulate you, sir, and

                 wish you well with your duties, which are,

                 we're sure, all-consuming for you at this

                 difficult time.  And we wish you and our

                 country well.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will continue to read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

                 the Dormitory Authority, John B. Johnson, Jr.,

                 of Watertown.

                            As a member of the New York State

                 Project Finance Agency, David M. Ahlers, of

                 Ithaca.

                            As banking members of the State

                 Banking Board, E. Peter Forrestel, II, of

                 Akron; David C. Mancuso, of Dunkirk; and





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                 Thomas E. Hales, of Briarcliff Manor.

                            As a member of the Small Business

                 Advisory Board, Robert M. Federico, of

                 Yorktown Heights.

                            And as commissioner of the State

                 Insurance Fund, Charles L. Loiodice, of

                 Woodbury.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Stafford.

                            SENATOR STAFFORD:    Move the

                 nominations.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Wright.

                            SENATOR WRIGHT:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I look forward to seconding the

                 nomination of John B. Johnson, Jr., as a

                 member of the Dormitory Authority.  I think if

                 you take a look at Mr. Johnson's resume,

                 you'll see that it speaks for itself.

                            But I simply want to address one

                 issue, and that is to commend the Governor for

                 his nomination of Mr. Johnson and his

                 recognition of the Johnson family.  For John

                 Johnson, Jr., happens to be the third





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                 generation of Johnsons nominated by previous

                 governors, confirmed previously by the Senate,

                 and having served three generations:  First,

                 his grandfather, who was one of the original

                 members of the Dormitory Authority; followed

                 by his father, who then served 44 years as a

                 member of the Dormitory Authority, 20 of those

                 years as chairman; and now, of course, the

                 nomination of John Johnson, Jr., who I believe

                 will have an equally long and distinguished

                 tenure serving the people of New York State.

                            And this is not simply limited to

                 the Dormitory Authority, but I would note, Mr.

                 President, for the record, that Mr. Johnson's

                 mother, Mrs. Katherine Johnson, has served

                 under five different governors as a member of

                 the New York State Parks and Recreation

                 Commission serving the Thousand Islands.

                            So we have a family here who has

                 served the North Country well, as well as the

                 State of New York.  And it's my pleasure to

                 second the nomination.

                            Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Any

                 other Senator wish to be heard?





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                            The question is on the confirmation

                 of the nominees.  All those in favor signify

                 by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 nominees are confirmed.

                            Senator Rath.

                            SENATOR RATH:    Mr. President, the

                 Senate will stand at ease.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Senate will stand at ease.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

                 ease at 5:10 p.m.)

                            (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

                 at 6:12 p.m.)

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    If we could

                 return to motions and resolutions, there's a

                 privileged resolution at the desk by Senator

                 DeFrancisco.  I ask that the title be read and





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                 move for its immediate adoption.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Motions

                 and resolutions.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 DeFrancisco, Legislative Resolution Number

                 3314, congratulating Michael T. Barry upon the

                 occasion of his retirement after many years of

                 distinguished service.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the resolution.  All those in

                 favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 resolution is adopted.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 Senator Bruno has requested a conference of

                 the Majority to begin at 6:20 which will last

                 approximately a half hour.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There

                 will be a conference of the Majority at 6:20





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                 in the Majority Conference Room.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 if we could stand at ease.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Senate will stand at ease.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

                 ease at 6:14 p.m.)

                            (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

                 at 8:02 p.m.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

                 there will be an immediate meeting of the

                 Rules Committee in the Majority Conference

                 Room.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    There

                 will be an immediate meeting of the Rules

                 Committee in the Majority Conference Room.

                            We'll stand at ease.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

                 ease at 8:03 p.m.)

                            (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

                 at 8:12 p.m.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Senator

                 Skelos.





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                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

                 if we could return to reports of standing

                 committees, I believe there's a report of the

                 Rules Committee at the desk.  I ask that it be

                 read at this time.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Bruno,

                 from the Committee on Rules, reports the

                 following bill direct to third reading:

                 Senate Print 5810, by the Senate Committee on

                 Rules, an act to amend Chapter 405 of the Laws

                 of 1999.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Move to accept

                 the report of the Rules Committee.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    All in

                 favor of accepting the report of the Rules

                 Committee signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    The





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                 report is accepted.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

                 if we could take up the Rules report at this

                 time.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1480, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

                 Print 5810, an act to amend Chapter 405 of the

                 Laws of 1999.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

                 is there a message at the desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    There is

                 a message at the desk, Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Move to accept

                 the message.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    All in

                 favor say aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Opposed,

                 nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    The

                 motion is accepted.





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                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    Announce

                 the results.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.  Nays,

                 3.  Senators Dollinger, Duane, and Padavan

                 recorded in the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Is there any

                 housekeeping at the desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    No,

                 there is none.

                            SENATOR PADAVAN:    I love loft

                 tenants.  Will the record please show that.

                            (Laughter.)

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

                 there being no further business to come before

                 the Senate, I move we adjourn until the call

                 of the Majority Leader, intervening days being





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                 legislative days.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT McGEE:    On

                 motion, the Senate stands adjourned until the

                 call of the Majority Leader, intervening days

                 being legislative days.

                            (Whereupon, at 8:14 p.m., the

                 Senate adjourned.)