Regular Session - June 3, 2003

    

 
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                           NEW YORK STATE SENATE





                          THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD









                             ALBANY, NEW YORK

                               June 3, 2003

                                 3:06 p.m.





                              REGULAR SESSION







            SENATOR RAYMOND A. MEIER, Acting President

            STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary















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                           P R O C E E D I N G S

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Senate will please come to order.

                            May I ask everyone present to

                 please rise and join me in the Pledge of

                 Allegiance to the Flag.

                            (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

                 the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 invocation will be given by the Reverend

                 Murray Mayfield, pastor of Greenville Baptist

                 Church in Greenville, New York.

                            REVEREND MAYFIELD:    Shall we

                 pray?

                            Our Father, we come before You this

                 afternoon full of gratitude for the privilege

                 of living in this great nation.  We

                 acknowledge that we're the nation we are today

                 because of Your grace and Your goodness.

                            We thank You for this assembly of

                 men and women whom You have raised up to lead

                 this state.  You tell us in Your word that

                 there is no authority except from God and

                 those which exist are established by God.  I

                 ask that this realization would guide all



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                 decisions being made today.

                            We come before You at the beginning

                 of this session and ask for divine direction.

                 The responsibility of leading this state in a

                 right way is a huge one, and human wisdom

                 alone is insufficient for the task.  And so at

                 this time we humble ourselves before You and

                 we ask for Your wisdom to fill this group so

                 that they may make wise decisions.

                            I pray that as a result of today's

                 work that righteousness will be exalted in

                 this state.  May these men and women pass laws

                 and enact legislation that is equitable and

                 just.  Most importantly of all, we ask that

                 You would be pleased with the results of

                 today's work.

                            Thank You for Your son, Jesus

                 Christ, who died to pay the penalty of our

                 sins so we could have fellowship with You.

                 And it's in the name of Jesus that we ask

                 these things.  Amen.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Reading

                 of the Journal.

                            THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

                 Monday, June 2, the Senate met pursuant to



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                 adjournment.  The Journal of Friday, May 30,

                 was read and approved.  On motion, Senate

                 adjourned.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Without

                 objection, the Journal stands approved as

                 read.

                            Presentation of petitions.

                            Messages from the Assembly.

                            Messages from the Governor.

                            Reports of standing committees.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator

                 DeFrancisco, from the Committee on Judiciary,

                 reports the following nominations.

                            As a judge of the Family Court for

                 the County of Dutchess, Valentino T. Sammarco,

                 of Hyde Park.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 DeFrancisco.

                            SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    Thank you,

                 Mr. President.

                            I'm proud to rise in this session

                 today to move the nomination of Valentino T.

                 Sammarco, of Hyde Park, as a judge of the

                 Family Court for the County of Dutchess.  He's



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                 here with his wife, Joan, his daughter Lori,

                 and his mother-in-law, Bessie Stelbach.

                            I had the pleasure to meet him for

                 the first time today.  He's a graduate of West

                 Point, an individual who has served his time

                 on the lower courts, being a town justice, and

                 is clearly, as the committee found

                 unanimously, well qualified to serve as a

                 judge of the Family Court for Dutchess County.

                            I would like to pass this

                 nomination on for seconding to Senator Saland.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Saland.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I rise for purposes of seconding

                 the nomination of Judge Sammarco.  Val

                 Sammarco is a gentleman who I have known since

                 childhood.

                            As I mentioned earlier during the

                 course of our committee deliberations, that he

                 and I were members of the 1955 City of

                 Poughkeepsie Little League Champions, the

                 American Legion team.  He was much better than

                 I was; he got to play all the time because he



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                 could hit.  But he pitched, also, and I could

                 only pitch.

                            And he's been pitching ever since,

                 doing wonderful things not only for the

                 community of Hyde Park, which he has so

                 capably served as a town justice for some

                 18 years, but also as a member of the legal

                 community, both as a public defender, as a

                 private practitioner, and somebody who has

                 spent the greater part of his practicing life

                 dealing with Family Court and domestic

                 relations issues.

                            He's an extraordinary gentleman

                 who, as I believe was noted earlier in Senator

                 DeFrancisco's remarks, served his country upon

                 his graduation from West Point.

                            He's here with his wife, Joan, who

                 certainly has been seen at many of the

                 functions that I've been attending for these

                 so many years.  They, the Sammarcos and their

                 family, have this moment to savor.  It

                 certainly is a reflection of, once again, the

                 Governor's careful attention to his judicial

                 nominees proposed to this body.

                            It's an extraordinary pleasure for



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                 me to second the nomination of a friend, of a

                 wonderfully capable attorney, and a man who

                 has distinguished himself for a number of

                 years as a town justice.

                            I wish him only the best, both he

                 and his family, and may God bless you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the confirmation of Valentino

                 T. Sammarco as a judge of the Family Court for

                 the County of Dutchess.  All those in favor

                 signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            Judge Sammarco with us today in the

                 gallery.  And, Judge, we wish you well and

                 congratulate you.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will continue to read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a judge of the

                 Family Court for the County of Westchester,



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                 Annette L. Guarino, of Rye.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 DeFrancisco.

                            SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    I'm also

                 very pleased to rise and move the nomination

                 of Annette Guarino as a judge of the Family

                 Court, County of Westchester.

                            She is uniquely qualified, having

                 served in that same position in the past.  And

                 during the committee meeting it was very clear

                 that she had the right reasons for wanting to

                 serve in that position again, to help resolve

                 the very, very serious questions that come

                 before Family Court judges dealing with

                 children, dealing with very tense situations

                 among family members.

                            She has also been found to be well

                 qualified, and the committee unanimously voted

                 to move her nomination here to the floor.

                            She's here with friends Susan King,

                 Patricia Scerno, Joshua Reap, Despina

                 Starakis -- I hope I got that right -- and

                 Marshall Raibman.

                            And I would like to yield the floor

                 to Senator Spano to second the nomination.



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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Spano.

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Thank you,

                 Senator DeFrancisco, Mr. President.

                            It's a good day for Westchester

                 County, for the judiciary, with Judge Guarino.

                 Judge Guarino will lead off the confirmation

                 of four outstanding individuals from

                 Westchester who have been appointed to the

                 Family Court and County Courts.

                            We have a great need in Westchester

                 to have good, solid, dependable judges on the

                 bench as quickly as possible to pursue justice

                 in our county.  And I want to thank Governor

                 Pataki for each of these nominees that will be

                 before us today.

                            Judge Guarino is someone I've known

                 for a long time, has been practicing law a

                 long time since 1982, has a distinguished

                 career in law, having graduated from St. Johns

                 University, has been involved in private

                 practice, has worked as a district tax

                 attorney for the State of New York, has

                 already been confirmed once by this body for

                 the Family Court, having been nominated by



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                 Governor Pataki in 2000.

                            Right now Judge Guarino is the

                 general counsel for the Battery Park City

                 Authority in the City of New York, has been

                 involved in a number of different activities

                 in our county in Westchester, particularly in

                 the Women's Bar Association, where she has

                 been a moderator and chair and a lecturer on

                 many of the statutes impacting our families in

                 Westchester.

                            Nobody is more qualified to serve,

                 who's got the compassion to serve in a very

                 difficult position in the Family Court, having

                 to make very difficult decisions on a daily

                 basis impacting men, women, and children in

                 Westchester County, than Annette Guarino.

                            So I am very pleased to stand here

                 today to second her nomination, to welcome her

                 friends who are with her -- Patricia and

                 Despina, Susan, and Marshall, who are here --

                 and to say to Judge Guarino, you have

                 continued to serve us well.  We look forward

                 to an outstanding career on the bench.

                            We look forward to an overwhelming

                 support that will be evidenced by the Senate



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                 today, and to say, to Governor Pataki, thank

                 you for once again showing your faith in

                 someone who has done so well in Westchester

                 County, who will continue to serve as a Family

                 Court judge right in our county.

                            So, Mr. President, it's my pleasure

                 to second the nomination of Annette Guarino to

                 the Family Court.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Mr. President,

                 I too rise to second the nomination of Judge

                 Guarino.

                            Her reputation for fairness and

                 legal expertise in Westchester County in her

                 short service on the bench is well known by

                 the bar, both in Westchester and throughout

                 the downstate region.  She has managed to, in

                 a short time, account herself well, and the

                 Governor's confidence has been well placed in

                 her.

                            I also take particular pride in

                 supporting her nomination as our roots and our

                 family heritage go back to the old days in

                 Olga Mendez's district, in East Harlem, from



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                 117th Street and Second Avenue, where her

                 family and my family came as immigrants.  And

                 I grew up there for a good part of my life;

                 she did too.

                            And I think the old neighborhood

                 would be proud of you.  Congratulations.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Leibell.

                            SENATOR LEIBELL:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I think all the neighborhoods in

                 Westchester County are going to be very proud

                 of Annette also.

                            I've had the good fortune to know

                 Annette Guarino for a number of years now.  I

                 know what a fine attorney she is and what a

                 fine judge she has been and will be again.

                            So we want to congratulate you and

                 your family today on this honor.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Does any

                 other Senator wish to be heard on the

                 nomination?

                            The question is on the confirmation

                 of Annette L. Guarino as a judge of the Family

                 Court for the County of Westchester.  All



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                 those in favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            Judge Guarino is with us today in

                 the gallery.  Judge, we wish you well with

                 your important duties.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a judge of the

                 Westchester County Court, Rory J. Bellantoni,

                 of Rye Brook.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 DeFrancisco.

                            SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    Again, I'm

                 proud to rise to move the nomination of Rory

                 Bellantoni, of Rye Brook, as a judge of the

                 Westchester County Court.

                            Apparently there's no judges in

                 Westchester County at the moment; they're all

                 being confirmed today.



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                            He's here with his wife, Amy, his

                 father -- he's following in his father's

                 footsteps, the Honorable Orazio Bellantoni.

                 He's a New York State Supreme Court judge.  No

                 doubt it's just a matter of time before his

                 son is on that court as well -- his mother,

                 Mary; his sister, Monica; his aunt, Marie; and

                 friends, the Honorable John Perrone, a retired

                 judge and former member of the Assembly, and

                 Chris and Maria Pierro.

                            This is an incredible resume for a

                 man that's this young, to be distinguished not

                 only in law school by an incredible record but

                 also having had so many experiences in the

                 practice of law in such a short period of

                 time.  Those broad range of experiences are

                 obviously going to serve him well to serve as

                 a county court judge in the County of

                 Westchester.

                            I would now like to yield the floor

                 to Senator Spano.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Spano.

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Thank you, Mr.

                 Chairman, Mr. President.



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                            It's my pleasure also to second the

                 nomination of Rory Bellantoni.  Judge

                 Bellantoni's affiliations include many

                 organizations in Westchester -- the county

                 bar, he's been a part of the County Parks and

                 Recreation Conservation Board.

                            He's had a great deal of

                 experience, having worked in the prestigious

                 law firm Wilson Elser, has worked in the

                 Rockland district attorney's office, where he

                 served as senior assistant district attorney.

                 And most recently, Rory Bellantoni is serving

                 as the Family Court hearing examiner in

                 Westchester County Family Court.

                            He has received his bachelor's

                 degree from Fordham and his J.D. from Fordham

                 University.

                            And it's a real sincere pleasure to

                 stand here today and to second the nomination

                 of someone who comes from a great family and a

                 great tradition.  His great-uncle served in

                 this chamber, Senator Anthony Gioffre.

                            His father is in this chamber and

                 currently serves as a Supreme Court judge in

                 Westchester County, and we are so glad that he



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                 is seated right behind me.

                            It's a historic day for

                 Westchester.  We cannot find in the annals of

                 history in Westchester County, or maybe even

                 across the state, a situation where a father

                 and son have served in the Superior Court

                 together.  So we're glad that it took Judge

                 Raz Bellantoni and his son Rory Bellantoni to

                 make history.

                            And I know that Judge Bellantoni

                 will carry on, on his own two feet, in making

                 sure that he will make the people of

                 Westchester as proud of him as his parents are

                 today, his wife, Amy, is today, his sister is

                 today, and all of us who join with Governor

                 Pataki in a great choice for a member of the

                 county court.

                            So, Mr. President, it's my pleasure

                 to second the nomination of Rory Bellantoni to

                 Westchester County Court.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I too rise to second this



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                 nomination.  This is an opportunity that the

                 Governor has given to us to place a young man

                 on the court that has both the balance of the

                 plaintiff and defendant's bar, as was ably

                 pointed out by our chairman of Judiciary this

                 morning when he misread the resume and thought

                 there was only a defense bar experience.

                 There was certainly a plaintiff's bar

                 experience there to counterbalance the

                 experience of this young man.

                            He certainly will add to the

                 tradition of a fine family.  And I look

                 forward to seeing him continue on in that

                 great tradition of Westchester County and of

                 his family.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Leibell.

                            SENATOR LEIBELL:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            Over the course of years we've had

                 the chance, all of us, to speak on the

                 nominations of our colleagues, sometimes, and

                 peers.  But when we start getting to our

                 friends' sons, we know we've been here quite a

                 long time.



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                            But I had the chance to serve and

                 to work with Judge Bellantoni.  And reading

                 his son's resume, to see all that he has done

                 in his young life, it's very encouraging for

                 all of us.  I know he will be a great judge

                 and follow in a great family tradition.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the confirmation of Rory

                 Bellantoni as a judge of the Westchester

                 County Court.  All those in favor signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            Judge Bellantoni is with us today

                 in the gallery.  Judge, we congratulate you

                 and wish you well.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a judge of the

                 Westchester County Court, Lawrence I.



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                 Horowitz, of Chappaqua.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 DeFrancisco.

                            SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    I'm again

                 proud to rise to move the nomination of

                 Lawrence I. Horowitz.

                            I commented at the committee

                 meeting this morning that it's just a

                 coincidence that Chairman DeFrancisco is

                 placing into nomination Guarino, Sammarco,

                 Bellantoni, and Horowitz.

                            And Judge Horowitz proceeded to

                 tell us that he does have, I think, Italian

                 blood -- Sicilian -- Italian blood as well.

                 So there's something going on here.

                            I don't make the appointments, I

                 simply sit to review the qualifications.  And

                 certainly Judge Horowitz is very well

                 qualified.

                            He's here with his wife, Alexis,

                 his son Benjamin, his daughter Rona, his

                 brother-in-law David Furer, who I got to meet,

                 and friend Michelle Angiello.

                            And his resume is an outstanding

                 resume.  In just the short time that I got to



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                 speak with him, it's clear that he certainly

                 has the judicial temperament in order to

                 handle the many cases and the very serious

                 cases that are going to be coming before the

                 Westchester County Court.

                            And I'm proud to rise to nominate

                 him, and I yield the floor to Senator Leibell.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Leibell.

                            SENATOR LEIBELL:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            And I'm very pleased to have the

                 chance to speak on Larry Horowitz, on his

                 nomination, because I've known him also for a

                 great many years.  And our practices have been

                 in close proximity, actually.

                            And I can tell you firsthand how

                 well respected and well regarded he is by not

                 only the Bar Association but so many different

                 community groups in our area.

                            Thinking about what the chairman of

                 the Judiciary Committee just noted in terms of

                 judicial disposition, certainly Larry has got

                 that.  And his commitment to the law, his

                 knowledge of the law, and his high ethical



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                 regard for the law bodes very well for him as

                 a judge of our courts in Westchester County

                 and throughout our district.

                            So I'm very pleased to join with my

                 colleagues and the members of the Judiciary

                 Committee who sent this over to us today.  I

                 know that Larry Horowitz will be a superb

                 judge.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Spano.

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            It's also my pleasure to second the

                 nomination of Larry Horowitz to the county

                 court and recognize the work that he's done in

                 a lot of community organizations in our

                 county:  the Northern Westchester Women's

                 Shelter, the Women's Resource Center.  He's

                 served as a constable in the Town of Ossining

                 and a village justice in the Village of

                 Buchanan.

                            And I must say that Judge Larry

                 Horowitz does sound real good.  And you've

                 come a long road, you deserve that title.  We

                 want to thank the Governor for recognizing all



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                 the good things in your career, and look

                 forward to continuing to work with you.

                            Congratulations, Judge Horowitz.

                 And I am proud to second your nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Mr. President,

                 I too add my voice to the seconds.

                            I have seen no one who is more

                 qualified in the sense of representing every

                 ethnic and religious group, if not by an

                 adequate degree of consanguinity, at least by

                 his volunteer work in representing them

                 pro bono.  He certainly is an asset that we

                 will long enjoy on the court.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the confirmation of Lawrence

                 Horowitz as a judge of the Westchester County

                 Court.  All those in favor signify by saying

                 aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The



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                 nominee is confirmed.

                            Judge Horowitz is with us today in

                 the gallery.  Congratulations, Judge.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    As a judge of the

                 Westchester County Court, Robert A. Neary, of

                 Pound Ridge.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 DeFrancisco.

                            SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    I again am

                 very proud to rise to move the nomination of

                 Robert A. Neary, of Pound Ridge, as a judge of

                 the Westchester County Court.

                            He's here with his wife, Keary, and

                 sons Michael, Phillip, Timothy, and Brendan.

                            And speaking generally about all

                 the nominees, this is an incredible group of

                 people.  We're really very fortunate to have

                 them willing to serve in these various

                 positions of authority as judges.

                            Robert Neary, in reviewing his

                 resume, really is an individual who is so

                 qualified it just jumps out at you as you look



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                 at his qualifications.  Here's an

                 individual -- and I don't think there's been

                 anyone that's come before this committee with

                 these types of qualifications.  It's a

                 criminal court, county court.  He's supervised

                 over 100 homicide investigations and has tried

                 to verdict 20 homicide cases.  That's clearly

                 the most serious, the most difficult to try.

                 And he certainly has the experience to preside

                 over those cases.

                            And I'm sure, even though his

                 background is mostly in prosecution, judging

                 from his demeanor, the little information that

                 I gleaned when we talked earlier this morning,

                 he will balance the interests of both the

                 accused as well as the prosecutors.

                            In fact, I'm sure he will hold the

                 prosecutors to a higher standard in view of

                 his qualifications and how well he's performed

                 in that capacity.  He'll be more demanding of

                 prosecutors in view of those qualifications.

                            And I would like now to yield the

                 floor again to Senator Leibell for his

                 remarks.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator



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                 Leibell.

                            SENATOR LEIBELL:    Thank you very

                 much, Mr. President.

                            And continuing with Westchester

                 Day, I'm very pleased to rise on the

                 nomination of Robert Neary.  Bob and I both

                 are graduates of St. Johns Law School and came

                 out at approximately the same time.  And when

                 I got into the Westchester DA's office, Bob

                 Neary was there also.

                            We had the opportunity to serve in

                 the same bureau that we were assigned to as we

                 arrived in that office, in the Rackets Bureau.

                 And I had the chance to work with him closely.

                 We speak on many of these nominations, but we

                 can't always say that we've worked day by day

                 with somebody who comes here.  And I can

                 actually say that in the case of Bob Neary.

                            I can tell you, as the chairman of

                 Judiciary pointed out, he has had a long and

                 distinguished career as a prosecutor, career

                 prosecutor, and has served Westchester County

                 and so many other communities with great

                 distinction.

                            I can also tell you that he was one



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                 of the most popular and most liked people in

                 the district attorney's office.  And the

                 reasons for that were twofold.  One, he was

                 professionally very competent.  Besides that,

                 he was always willing to share of his

                 competency and of his knowledge and to do it

                 with any member who was there, whether they

                 were there longer than he was or it was a new

                 person coming into that office.

                            As was noted, he has tried

                 literally scores of cases, some of the most

                 serious cases in Westchester County.  So we

                 have been very fortunate to have his service

                 over the years.  And now we'll be fortunate to

                 have his service as a judge.

                            I'm very pleased to have the

                 opportunity to stand here today and to push

                 this nomination, to urge my colleagues to

                 support the nomination sent over to us by the

                 Governor.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Spano.

                            SENATOR SPANO:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.



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                            Once again, as Senator Leibell

                 said, we'll continue with Westchester Day.

                            And it's also my pleasure to second

                 the nomination of Bob Neary, someone who was

                 born and raised in the city of Yonkers, great

                 roots in the city that I live in, who, as

                 Senator Leibell alluded to, started his career

                 back in 1975 in the Westchester County

                 district attorney's office, working under then

                 District Attorney Carl Vergari, and has

                 continued that work under the leadership of

                 our outstanding district attorney in

                 Westchester, Jeanine Pirro.

                            He has held so many different

                 titles from '75 to now, where he is the chief

                 of the Career Criminal Bureau.  Governor

                 Pataki has made an excellent and solid choice

                 in each of these nominees that are presented

                 to us today, and certainly that's the case

                 with Bob Neary.

                            So to Judge Neary, it's my pleasure

                 to second your nomination, to say

                 congratulations to you, to the members of your

                 family for this nomination today, and I look

                 forward to continuing to work with you and to



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                 work for you for the people of Westchester.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Velella.

                            SENATOR VELELLA:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I also rise to second this

                 nomination.  Today, in the annals of

                 Westchester County's history, will be known as

                 the day of the Big Four judges.  From

                 henceforth the word will go forth, because

                 certainly Westchester County has an awful lot

                 to be proud of in these four individuals.

                            And I look forward to the great

                 successes that they will have on the bench and

                 am proud to be a second to all of their

                 nominations.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Stachowski.

                            SENATOR STACHOWSKI:    I too would

                 like to rise the second the nomination of

                 Robert Neary.

                            I'm sure some of you are surprised

                 that somebody from Buffalo's getting up on a

                 Westchester judge.  But I know Bob Neary from



                                                        3462



                 1967.  We went to college at the same time.

                 He was a senior when I was a sophomore.

                            I'm not surprised about his work

                 record, because we played football together.

                 Bob Neary was the captain of the team when I

                 was a sophomore.  I was fortunate enough to

                 play on that team, and actually play and not

                 just be a sophomore on the bench.

                            But Bob Neary was a starting

                 receiver.  He was a captain.  He led through

                 leadership, hard work, and determination.  He

                 was one of the best players we had, obviously.

                 He was not the fastest, but he ran great

                 patterns.  Had a wonderful work ethic.  Was

                 wonderful for the younger guys that he

                 welcomed you aboard.

                            He worked harder than any of us, so

                 that he led through example.  And I think

                 that, because of that background that I know

                 of him, that it's not surprising to me that he

                 was such a successful district attorney.  And

                 I know that he will be a wonderful judge.

                            I also know that Senator

                 DeFrancisco said that he was a little

                 concerned that all his background was as a



                                                        3463



                 prosecutor, but he knows that he'll give both

                 sides a fair shake, and I'm positive he will.

                 He'll be a great judge and someone we'll all

                 be proud of.

                            I'm happy to have risen and

                 seconded his nomination.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Oppenheimer.

                            SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:    I'm sorry I

                 was not present for the first one, two, three

                 judges.  I'm now present for Bob Neary, who,

                 of the four, is the only one I don't know.

                            But I think I would like to make

                 just a general comment.  Being tied up in a

                 meeting earlier, I would have liked to have

                 been able to speak on Judge Guarino and Judge

                 Bellantoni and Judge Horowitz.  And now I am

                 happy to speak including Judge Neary.

                            What I would like to say is that

                 the caliber and the quality of the judges that

                 we have in Westchester County has been

                 uniquely high.  And we have also put in some

                 innovative new procedures in Westchester

                 County which may serve as a model for the way

                 we handle certain family and domestic violence



                                                        3464



                 issues around the state.

                            And it is because our judges have

                 been very open to progressive new methods that

                 we are able to do some of the things we have

                 done.  We have put in our various courts

                 childcare in every single court, major

                 court -- city court, I should say city court

                 in our county.  And it is really the judges

                 that have been very supportive of many of

                 these -- the new thinking.

                            And so for all four, I commend

                 them.  They are very qualified people.  They

                 have in many cases shown their ability

                 already.  And I am just delighted that all

                 four are here today for Westchester Day in the

                 judiciary.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Does any

                 other Senator wish to be heard on the

                 nomination?

                            The question is on the confirmation

                 of Robert Neary as a judge of the Westchester

                 County Court.  All those in favor signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those



                                                        3465



                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 nominee is confirmed.

                            Judge Neary is with us in the

                 gallery today.  And, Judge, we congratulate

                 you.

                            (Applause.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Reports

                 of select committees.

                            Communications and reports from

                 state officers.

                            Motions and resolutions.

                            Senator Golden.

                            SENATOR GOLDEN:    Mr. President,

                 amendments are offered to the following Third

                 Reading Calendar bills:

                            Senator Bonacic, page number 18,

                 Calendar Number 485, Senate Print 2225;

                            Senator DeFrancisco, page number

                 26, Calendar 662, Senate Print 3345;

                            And Senator Leibell, page number

                 40, Calendar 876, Senate Print 1572.

                            On behalf of Senator McGee, please

                 remove the sponsor's star from Calendar Number



                                                        3466



                 414.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted, and the

                 bills will retain their place on the order of

                 third reading.

                            And with regard to your second

                 motion, so ordered.

                            Senator Farley.

                            SENATOR FARLEY:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            On page 42, I offer the following

                 amendments to Calendar Number 916, Senate

                 Print 3752, and I ask that this bill of

                 Senator Wright's retain its place on the Third

                 Reading Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted, and the

                 bill will retain its place on the order of

                 third reading.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 there's a privileged resolution at the desk,

                 1938, by Senator Meier.  I ask that the title

                 be read and move for its immediate adoption.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The



                                                        3467



                 Secretary will read the title of Resolution

                 1938.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator Meier,

                 Legislative Resolution Number 1938,

                 commemorating the 20th Anniversary of the

                 Disability Advocacy Program.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the resolution.  All those in

                 favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 resolution is adopted.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 there's a privileged resolution at the desk,

                 1984, by Senator Hoffmann.  I ask that the

                 title be read and move for its immediate

                 adoption.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the title of Resolution

                 1984.





                                                        3468



                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 Hoffmann, Legislative Resolution Number 1984,

                 memorializing Governor George E. Pataki to

                 proclaim June 2003 as Dairy Month in the State

                 of New York.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 question is on the resolution.  All those in

                 favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 resolution is adopted.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 there's a privileged resolution, 1977, at the

                 desk by Senator Bonacic.  I ask that the title

                 be read and move for its immediate adoption.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the title of Resolution

                 1977.

                            THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

                 Bonacic, Legislative Resolution Number 1977,

                 commending the Valedictorians, Salutatorians,



                                                        3469



                 and honored students of the 42nd Senate

                 District, in recognition of their outstanding

                 accomplishments, at a celebration to be held

                 at the State Capitol on June 4, 2003.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    All

                 those in favor of the resolution signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 resolution is adopted.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 if we could go to the noncontroversial reading

                 of the calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the noncontroversial

                 calendar.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    If I could just

                 interrupt prior to going to the



                                                        3470



                 noncontroversial reading.

                            Senator Meier's resolution, 1938,

                 and Senator Hoffmann's resolution, 1984, we'd

                 like to open that for cosponsorship.  If

                 anybody wishes not to sponsor the resolutions,

                 they should notify the desk.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    1938 and

                 1984 are open for cosponsorship.  Any member

                 not wishing to be listed, notify the desk.

                            The Secretary will read the

                 noncontroversial calendar.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 306, by Member of the Assembly Gianaris,

                 Assembly Print Number 2609, an act to amend

                 the Estates, Powers and Trusts Law, in

                 relation to prohibited acts of private

                 foundations.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.



                                                        3471



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 310, by Senator Saland, Senate Print --

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Lay it aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Lay it aside for

                 the day, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 608, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 3568, an

                 act to amend the Family Court Act, in relation

                 to permanency hearings.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 90th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.



                                                        3472



                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 731, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 3425, an

                 act to amend the Banking Law, in relation to

                 the requirement for licensure.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of January.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 870, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 935, an

                 act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law, in

                 relation to dealers and dealer registration.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 90th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)



                                                        3473



                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1001, by Senator Little, Senate Print 4926, an

                 act to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in

                 relation to the eligibility.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1002, by Senator Little, Senate Print 4949, an

                 act to amend the General Municipal Law, in

                 relation to the procurement of transit

                 vehicles.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This



                                                        3474



                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1011, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 4389, an

                 act to amend the Banking Law, in relation to

                 unauthorized entities.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 30th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1012, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 4823, an

                 act to amend the Banking Law, in relation to

                 the requirements for licensure.



                                                        3475



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 6.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of January.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1019, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 4506, an

                 act to amend the Education Law, in relation to

                 displaying the flag at the State of New York

                 on the grounds of the State University and

                 institutions therein.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 60th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill



                                                        3476



                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1020, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 4960 --

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Lay it aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Lay it aside for

                 the day, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1036, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 417, an

                 act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law, in

                 relation to allowing volunteer firefighters.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.



                                                        3477



                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1037, by Senator Wright, Senate Print 701, an

                 act to amend the Public Authorities Law, in

                 relation to contracts.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Lay it aside for

                 the day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1038, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 988, an

                 act authorizing the Pawling Central School

                 District to lease lands.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill



                                                        3478



                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1039, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 1013, an

                 act to amend the Education Law, in relation to

                 optional retirement programs.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1040, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 1053,

                 an act to authorize the Long Island

                 Progressive Baptist Association.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.



                                                        3479



                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1041, by Senator Stachowski, Senate Print

                 1165, an act to amend the Penal Law, in

                 relation to the definition of assault in the

                 second degree.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of

                 November.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1042, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 1185, an

                 act to amend the General Municipal Law, in

                 relation to establishing.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There is



                                                        3480



                 a home-rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1043, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 1502A,

                 an act to amend the General Municipal Law, in

                 relation to allowing active volunteer

                 firefighters.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill



                                                        3481



                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1045, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1793,

                 an act to amend the Real Property Actions and

                 Proceedings Law, in relation to the purchase

                 of the premises.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 30th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1046, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 1922, an

                 act to authorize the Village of Pleasantville,

                 in the County of Westchester.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There is

                 a home-rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.



                                                        3482



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1048, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print

                 2099, an act to amend the General Business

                 Law, in relation to renewals of magazine

                 subscriptions.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 60th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1049, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 2244, an

                 act to amend the County Law, in relation to

                 authorizing wireless communications service.



                                                        3483



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1050, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 2309, an

                 act to amend the General Municipal Law, in

                 relation to the powers and duties of the City

                 of Hornell Industrial Development Agency.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    There is

                 a home-rule message at the desk.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Lay it aside for

                 the day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1051, by Senator Trunzo --

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Lay it aside for

                 the day.



                                                        3484



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1052, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 2575, an

                 act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to

                 providing a fair marketplace.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Lay it

                 aside.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Lay the

                 bill aside.

                            Senator Skelos, that completes the

                 noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 if we could go to the controversial reading of

                 the calendar.

                            And just to mention to the members

                 that are on the Rules Committee, there will be

                 a Rules Committee meeting shortly, upon

                 completion of the debate on my bill, and then

                 we'll come back and report the Rules bills and

                 adjourn.

                            Senator Schneiderman -- if we could

                 go now, Mr. President, to the controversial

                 reading of the calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The



                                                        3485



                 Secretary will read the controversial

                 calendar.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1052, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 2575, an

                 act to amend the Tax Law.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:

                 Explanation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Now,

                 Senator Schneiderman.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            Under the Tax Law provisions in

                 New York State, New York lenders are unable to

                 pass through the cost of the mortgage

                 recording tax as a charge associated with

                 making a loan.  Federal lenders are allowed to

                 do this.  Obviously, this hurts New York

                 State-chartered mortgage lenders.  And it

                 would allow them to pass through this cost.

                            It was vetoed by the Governor last

                 year because of his concern as to the

                 effective date.  We have amended the law.

                 Obviously, there's a new effective date.  And

                 it would apply to mortgages after the

                 effective date of this legislation.



                                                        3486



                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Through

                 you, Mr. President, if the sponsor would yield

                 for some questions.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos, do you yield for a question?

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you.

                            This bill appears to be contrary to

                 the best interests of consumers.  Why would we

                 want to require a borrower to pay the mortgage

                 recording tax when the lender currently pays

                 the tax?

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    This is in the

                 best interest of companies looking to -- New

                 York State companies looking to have mortgages

                 placed within the state.  It's pro-New York.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Through

                 you, Mr. President, if the sponsor would

                 continue to yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos, do you yield?

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Yes, I do.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The



                                                        3487



                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    But it

                 would seem that institutions licensed by

                 New York State would have an actual advantage

                 here competitively, because the public would

                 know that they don't pass through the cost of

                 the mortgage recording tax, unlike federally

                 chartered institutions, licensed institutions.

                            So it would seem that that would in

                 fact confer an advantage on them that we're

                 now in the process of taking away.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Everybody would

                 have to pay the mortgage recording tax.  It's

                 just that they could then pass it through as a

                 cost of making the loan.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Through

                 you, Mr. President.  But isn't that removing

                 an advantage that these institutions have now

                 in terms of the ability to communicate to

                 consumers?

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    New York lenders

                 presently cannot pass that through.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Schneiderman.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Mr.



                                                        3488



                 President, if the sponsor would continue to

                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos, do you yield?

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    My concern

                 is that under the present circumstances,

                 New York State-licensed mortgage lenders --

                 every consumer knows that those institutions

                 are not going to pass the mortgage recording

                 tax along to the consumers.  It's a

                 distinction that creates an advantage, if you

                 will, competitively.

                            This would reduce any incentive for

                 anyone to use a New York State-licensed

                 mortgage lender as opposed to a federally

                 licensed mortgage lender.  Won't this have the

                 result of reducing the number of consumers who

                 use New York State-licensed mortgage lenders?

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    This has been --

                 it's supported by that industry.  They have

                 met with us in support of the legislation.  So

                 obviously they feel that they are not going to



                                                        3489



                 be hurt.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Well,

                 through you, Mr. President, I -- if he'd yield

                 for one final question.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos, will you yield?

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Yes.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    When the

                 Governor vetoed this -- and I certainly do not

                 mean to convey that what the Governor says in

                 veto messages are always correct by any

                 means -- but in addition to noting the concern

                 about the effective date, the Governor stated

                 that he was concerned that the bill would

                 adversely affect purchasers of single-family

                 homes.

                            And I'm wondering if that has been

                 taken into account in the amendments of the

                 bill.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    I can't speak

                 for the Governor, but I believe his concern

                 was about mortgages that were already in the

                 process at the time of the effective date of

                 this legislation.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,



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                 Mr. President.  On the bill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Schneiderman, on the bill.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    I do think

                 that this is something that is contrary to the

                 interests of consumers.  I understand why

                 lenders want to be able to pass along to

                 borrowers the mortgage recording tax, but I

                 really don't understand how this benefits the

                 consumers of New York State.

                            It also really does undercut -- and

                 I think it's a matter of shortsightedness of

                 this industry -- it really does undercut a

                 competitive advantage that New York

                 State-licensed mortgage lenders currently

                 have, as consumers know that that's the one

                 place that they're not going to have the costs

                 of the mortgage recording tax passed on to

                 them.

                            I think this is something that is a

                 shortsighted effort by the industry to reduce

                 its costs, with more long-term negative

                 consequences both for the borrowers and the

                 lenders.  So I will be voting no.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.



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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Does any

                 other Senator wish to be heard on the bill?

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 60th day.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

                 the negative on Calendar Number 1052 are

                 Senators L. Krueger, Montgomery, Paterson, and

                 Schneiderman.  Ayes, 56.  Nays, 4.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            Senator Skelos, that completes the

                 calendar.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 we're not prepared to call the Rules Committee

                 meeting quite yet, so why don't we stand at

                 ease at this time.  Maybe there's some motions

                 or housekeeping.

                            Is there any housekeeping at the

                 desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    I think

                 we just have the one motion, Senator.



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                            Senator Seward.

                            SENATOR SEWARD:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.  I wish to call up Senator

                 Flanagan's bill, Print Number 4990, recalled

                 from the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 795, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 4990,

                 an act to amend the Navigation Law.

                            SENATOR SEWARD:    Mr. President, I

                 now move to reconsider the vote by which this

                 bill was passed.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll on reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Seward.

                            SENATOR SEWARD:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted.

                            Senator Skelos.



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                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 there will be an immediate meeting of the

                 Rules Committee in the Majority Conference

                 Room.

                            And the Senate will stand at ease

                 pending the return of the report of the Rules

                 Committee.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

                 Immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in

                 the Majority Conference Room.

                            The Senate will stand at ease

                 pending the report of the Rules Committee.

                            (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

                 ease at 4:00 p.m.)

                            (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

                 at 4:10 p.m.)

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Can we return to

                 reports of standing committees.

                            I believe there's a report of the

                 Rules Committee at the desk.  I ask that it be

                 read.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Reports



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                 of standing committees.

                            The Secretary will read the report

                 of the Rules Committee.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Bruno,

                 from the Committee on Rules, reports the

                 following bills:

                            Senate Print 44, by Senator Alesi,

                 an act to amend the Public Health Law;

                            1459, by Senator Fuschillo, an act

                 to authorize;

                            1520A, by Senator Bonacic, an act

                 to give the Town of Thompson;

                            1571A, by Senator Fuschillo, an act

                 to authorize;

                            1806A, by Senator Larkin, an act to

                 amend the General Municipal Law;

                            2059, by Senator Farley, an act to

                 amend the Environmental Conservation Law;

                            2062A, by Senator LaValle, an act

                 to amend the General Obligations Law;

                            2527, by Senator Trunzo, an act to

                 amend the Real Property Law;

                            2689, by Senator Mendez, an act to

                 amend the Election Law;

                            2739, by Senator Volker, an act to



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                 amend the Retirement and Social Security Law;

                            2940, by Senator Kuhl, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            3025, by Senator Nozzolio, an act

                 to permit;

                            3222, by Senator Spano, an act to

                 authorize;

                            3386, by Senator Little, an act to

                 authorize;

                            3387, by Senator Seward, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            3426, by Senator Saland, an act to

                 amend Chapter 505 of the Laws of 1985;

                            3427, by Senator Marchi, an act in

                 relation to directing;

                            3584, by Senator Flanagan, an act

                 to amend the Correction Law;

                            3664, by Senator Oppenheimer, an

                 act to amend the Penal Law;

                            3702A, by Senator Maziarz, an act

                 to amend the Tax Law;

                            3710, by Senator Morahan, an act

                 authorizing;

                            3845, by Senator Rath, an act to

                 amend the Penal Law;



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                            3919A, by Senator Saland, an act to

                 amend Chapter 942 of the Laws of 1983;

                            4130, by Senator Marcellino, an act

                 to amend the Environmental Conservation Law;

                            4181, by Senator Golden, an act to

                 amend Chapter 929 of the Laws of 1986;

                            4807A, by the Senate Committee on

                 Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law;

                            4905, by Senator DeFrancisco, an

                 act to amend the Surrogate's Court Procedure

                 Act;

                            4940, by Senator Wright, an act to

                 amend the Environmental Conservation Law;

                            4984, by Senator Rath, an act to

                 amend the Social Services Law;

                            5095, by the Senate Committee on

                 Rules, an act to amend Chapter 272 of the Laws

                 of 1991;

                            5115, by Senator Nozzolio, an act

                 to amend the Executive Law;

                            5135, by Senator Skelos, an act to

                 amend the Correction Law;

                            And Senate Print 5159, by Senator

                 Balboni, an act to amend the Executive Law.

                            All bills ordered direct to third



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                 reading.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Move to accept

                 the report of the Rules Committee.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    All

                 those in favor of accepting the report of the

                 Rules Committee say aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Please recognize

                 Senator Stachowski.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Stachowski.

                            SENATOR STACHOWSKI:    Mr.

                 President, can I have unanimous consent to be

                 recorded in the negative on Calendar 1042,

                 Senate 1185, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Without

                 objection, Senator Stachowski will be recorded



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                 in the negative on Calendar 1042.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Is there any

                 other housekeeping at the desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    No,

                 there is not.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

                 there being no further business, I move that

                 the Senate stand adjourned until Wednesday,

                 June 4th, at 11:00 a.m.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    On

                 motion, the Senate stands adjourned until

                 Wednesday, June the 4th, at 11:00 a.m.

                            (Whereupon, at 4:14 p.m., the

                 Senate adjourned.)