Regular Session - June 16, 2003

    

 
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                           NEW YORK STATE SENATE





                          THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD









                             ALBANY, NEW YORK

                               June 16, 2003

                                 3:17 p.m.





                              REGULAR SESSION







            LT. GOVERNOR MARY O. DONOHUE, President

            STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary















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                           P R O C E E D I N G S

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Senate will

                 please come to order.

                            I ask everyone present to please

                 rise and repeat with me the Pledge of

                 Allegiance.

                            (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

                 the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    With us this

                 afternoon to give the invocation is Pastor

                 William B. Balta, from South Westerlo

                 Congregational Christian Church in South

                 Westerlo, New York.

                            PASTOR BALTA:    Proverbs,

                 Chapter 16, Verse 3:  Commit your works to the

                 Lord, and your thoughts will be established.

                            Let us pray.

                            Dear Father in heaven, we thank You

                 for this day.  We thank You, dear God, for

                 this great state that we live in.  We thank

                 You, dear God, for this great country that we

                 live in.  And, dear God, we just are very,

                 very much knowing that we're blessed.

                            And, dear God, right now we just

                 ask Your hand upon each one here that



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                 represents each different part of the state.

                 We ask, Lord God, that You be with each one of

                 them in their lives, in their families, in all

                 their doings that they do.

                            Lord, we know that You love each

                 one of us here, and we're so very grateful for

                 that.  And, dear God, now we know that You

                 tell us, if we ask for wisdom, that You'll

                 give it to us freely.  You won't hold anything

                 back.  So we ask, dear God, today for our

                 Senators and all that is involved in this

                 meeting today.  We ask, dear God, for giving

                 them wisdom.

                            Lord, we know that You hold

                 everything in Your hands, and we thank You

                 that we're able to honor You and start off our

                 business by asking for Your help.  We need

                 Your help, and we thank You that we can ask

                 for it.

                            We ask now Your blessing upon each

                 one, in the business that is going to be

                 conducted, and we ask it in the name of Jesus

                 Christ.

                            Amen.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Reading of the



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                 Journal.

                            THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

                 Sunday, June 15, the Senate met pursuant to

                 adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday,

                 June 14, was read and approved.  On motion,

                 Senate adjourned.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Without

                 objection, the Journal stands approved as

                 read.

                            Presentation of petitions.

                            Messages from the Assembly.

                            Messages from the Governor.

                            Reports of standing committees.

                            Reports of select committees.

                            Communications and reports from

                 state officers.

                            Motions and resolutions.

                            Senator Skelos.

                            SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

                 before we go to motions and resolutions, there

                 will be an immediate meeting of the Rules

                 Committee in the Majority Conference Room.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There will be an

                 immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in

                 the Majority Conference Room.



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                            Senator Morahan.

                            SENATOR MORAHAN:    Yes, Madam

                 President.  On behalf of Senator Maziarz, on

                 page 6 I offer the following amendments to

                 Calendar 120, Senate Print 729A, and ask that

                 the bill retain its place on the Third Reading

                 Calendar.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received, and the bill will retain its

                 place on the Third Reading Calendar.

                            SENATOR MORAHAN:    Madam

                 President, on behalf of Senator Wright, on

                 page 39 I offer the following amendments to

                 Calendar 916, Senate Print 3752A, and ask that

                 said bill retain its place on the Third

                 Reading Calendar.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received also, and the bill will also

                 retain its place on the Third Reading

                 Calendar.

                            SENATOR MORAHAN:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator McGee.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Madam President,

                 amendments are offered to the following Third



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                 Reading Calendar bills:

                            Sponsored by Senator LaValle, page

                 number 6, Calendar Number 119, Senate Print

                 335;

                            Sponsored by Senator LaValle, page

                 number 11, Calendar Number 251, Senate Print

                 2027;

                            Sponsored by Senator Larkin, page

                 number 20, Calendar Number 512, Senate Print

                 2085;

                            Sponsored by Senator Golden, page

                 22, Calendar 551, Senate Print 4186;

                            Sponsored by Senator LaValle, page

                 number 29, Calendar Number 741, Senate Print

                 2885A;

                            Sponsored by Senator Marcellino,

                 page number 32, Calendar Number 805, Senate

                 Print 888;

                            Sponsored by Senator Skelos, page

                 number 42, Calendar Number 974, Senate Print

                 2661A;

                            Sponsored by Senator LaValle, page

                 number 44, Calendar Number 1014, Senate Print

                 Number 4784;

                            Sponsored by Senator LaValle, page



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                 number 44, Calendar Number 1020, Senate Print

                 4960;

                            Sponsored by Senator Skelos, page

                 number 49, Calendar Number 1225, Senate Print

                 Number 5310;

                            Sponsored by Senator Libous, page

                 number 51, Calendar Number 1249, Senate Print

                 5244;

                            Sponsored by Senator Maltese, page

                 number 35, Calendar Number 834, Senate Print

                 Number 71.

                            Madam President, I now move that

                 these bills retain their place on order of

                 third reading.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted, and the bills will

                 each retain their place on the Third Reading

                 Calendar.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator

                 Marcellino.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            On behalf of Senator Rath, I wish



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                 to call up Calendar Number 817, Assembly Print

                 Number 2800.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 817, by Member of the Assembly Ortiz, Assembly

                 Print Number 2800, an act to amend the Public

                 Health Law.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    I now move

                 to reconsider the vote by which this Assembly

                 bill was substituted for Senator Rath's bill,

                 Senate Print Number 2045, on 5/14/03.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 50.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    I now move

                 that the Assembly bill, Number 2800, be

                 committed to the Committee on Rules, and

                 Senator Rath's Senate bill be restored to the

                 order of the Third Reading Calendar.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    So ordered,

                 Senator.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    I now offer

                 the following amendments.



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                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, I wish to call up Senator Libous's

                 bill, Print Number 2894, recalled from the

                 Assembly, which is now at the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 341, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 2894, an

                 act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    I now move

                 to reconsider the vote by which this bill was

                 passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll on reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 50.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted, Senator.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, I wish to call up my bill, Print



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                 Number 885, recalled from the Assembly, which

                 is now at the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 52, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 885,

                 an act to repeal Title 17 of Article 23.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which this bill was passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 50.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    I now offer

                 the following amendments.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, I wish to call up Senator Maziarz's

                 bill, Print Number 1819, recalled from the

                 Assembly, which is now at the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number



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                 181, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 1819, an

                 act authorizing the Commissioner of

                 Transportation.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which this bill was passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 50.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Madam

                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted, Senator.

                            SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Thank you.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator

                 Fuschillo.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            I wish to call up Senate Print

                 Number 5100, recalled from the Assembly, which

                 is now at the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.



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                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1152, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 5100,

                 an act to amend the Town Law.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which the bill was passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted.

                            Senator Fuschillo.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, on behalf of Senator Larkin, I wish

                 to call up Senate Print Number 3612, recalled

                 from the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1133, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 3612, an

                 act to amend the Tax Law.



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                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now move to

                 reconsider the vote by which the bill was

                 passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now offer

                 the following amendments.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, on behalf of Senator McGee, I wish

                 to call up Senate Print Number 2783A, recalled

                 from the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 977, by Senator McGee, Senate Print 2783A, an

                 act to amend the General Municipal Law.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which the bill was passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.



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                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, on behalf of Senator LaValle, I

                 wish to call up Senate Print Number 301,

                 recalled from the Assembly, which is now at

                 the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 590, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 301, an

                 act to amend the Education Law.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which the bill was passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam



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                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, on behalf of Senator Hoffmann, I

                 wish to call up Senate Print Number 2836,

                 recalled from the Assembly, which is now at

                 the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 219, by Senator Hoffmann, Senate Print 2836,

                 an act to amend the Agriculture and Markets

                 Law.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which the bill was passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Madam

                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.



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                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            Senator Schneiderman first.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            On behalf of Senator Oppenheimer, I

                 would like to offer the following amendment on

                 page 49, Calendar Number 1230, Print Number

                 4539, and ask that this bill retain its place

                 on the Third Reading Calendar.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted, and the bill will

                 retain its place on the Third Reading

                 Calendar.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you.

                            And, Madam President, on behalf of

                 Senator Montgomery, I'd like to call up Senate

                 Print 5068A, recalled from the Assembly, which

                 is now at the desk.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1149, by Senator Montgomery, Senate Print

                 5068A, an act authorizing the City of



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                 New York.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Madam

                 President, I now move to reconsider the vote

                 by which this bill was passed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will call the roll upon reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    And, Madam

                 President, I would offer the following

                 amendments, which are at the desk.

                            Thank you.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

                 are received and adopted.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Madam

                 President.  Are there some substitutions at

                 the desk?

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Yes, there are,

                 Senator.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Could we make

                 those substitutions at this time, please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    On page 11,



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                 Senator Maziarz moves to discharge, from the

                 Committee on Rules, Assembly Print Number 999

                 and substitute it for the identical Senate

                 Bill Number 2269, Third Reading Calendar 253.

                            On page 11, Senator Kuhl moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 5093A and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 2308A,

                 Third Reading Calendar 255.

                            On page 16, Senator McGee moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 6546A and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 2777A,

                 Third Reading Calendar 406.

                            On page 17, Senator Skelos moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 6893B and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 2956B,

                 Third Reading Calendar 452.

                            On page 42, Senator Saland moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 7108 and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 3053,

                 Third Reading Calendar 955.

                            On page 43, Senator Flanagan moves



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                 to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 8175A and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 4578A,

                 Third Reading Calendar 998.

                            On page 48, Senator Meier moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 8145 and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 5027,

                 Third Reading Calendar 1148.

                            On page 49, Senator Seward moves to

                 discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 7150A and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 2757A,

                 Third Reading Calendar 1233.

                            On page 49, Senator Maziarz moves

                 to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Bill Number 5961 and substitute it

                 for the identical Senate Bill Number 2787,

                 Third Reading Calendar 1234.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The substitutions

                 are ordered.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Madam

                 President.  May we now have the

                 noncontroversial reading of the calendar,



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                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 184, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 1022A, an

                 act to amend the Social Services Law, in

                 relation to the charging.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of

                 November.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 189, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 836A, an

                 act to amend the Highway Law, in relation to

                 designating.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.



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                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 212, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 345A, an

                 act --

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Lay it

                 aside.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 227, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 772,

                 an act to amend the Labor Law, in relation to

                 designating.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 120th day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.



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                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 249, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Print Number 7332, an act to amend

                 the Tax Law, in relation to extending.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 250, by Member of the Assembly Kirwan,

                 Assembly Print Number 4205, an act to amend

                 the Tax Law, in relation to certain tax rates.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is



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                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 254, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 2282, an

                 act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to the

                 sales and use taxes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 257, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 2481, an

                 act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to

                 extending the expiration.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.



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                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 260, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 2562A,

                 an act to amend the Public Buildings Law, in

                 relation to designating.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 261, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 2923, an

                 act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to

                 extending the expiration.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 18.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)



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                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 262, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 2930, an

                 act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to

                 extending.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 315, by Senator Little, Senate Print 1783A --

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Lay it aside.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 388, by Senator McGee, Senate Print 2963B, an

                 act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control

                 Law, in relation to the registration of kegs.



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                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 120th day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 51.  Nays,

                 3.  Senators Maltese, Meier, and Nozzolio

                 recorded in the negative.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 420, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 3438, an

                 act to amend the --

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Lay it aside.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 428, by Senator Spano, Senate Print 1197A, an

                 act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control

                 Law, in relation to requiring persons

                 licensed.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Lay it aside for

                 the day, please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid



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                 aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 452, substituted earlier today by Member of

                 the Assembly Tokasz, Assembly Print Number

                 6893B, an act to amend the Penal Law, in

                 relation to establishing standards.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of

                 November.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 458, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 3479A, an

                 act to amend the Penal Law and the Public

                 Authorities Law, in relation to assaults.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Lay it aside.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.



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                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 487, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 2841A, an

                 act to amend Chapter 380 of the Laws of 2002

                 relating to establishing.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 523, by Senator Velella, Senate Print 4377B,

                 an act to amend the Labor Law, in relation to

                 contracts for public work.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is



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                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 525, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Print Number 8224B, an act to amend

                 Chapter 511 of the Laws of 1995, relating to

                 establishing.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Lay it aside for

                 the day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 536, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 4224A, an

                 act to amend the Domestic Relations Law, the

                 Family Court Act, and the Social Services Law,

                 in relation to the rights of grandparents.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 6.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 90th day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Would you

                 recognize Senator Saland to explain his vote,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Saland,



                                                        4059



                 to explain your vote.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Thank you, Madam

                 President.

                            Madam President, this bill

                 represents the culmination of some three

                 years' worth of work.  And I would

                 particularly like to recognize the work of a

                 number of grandparents and advocacy groups,

                 the AARP and the Senior Action Council, that

                 very patiently worked with us over this period

                 of time, with Senator LaValle, with

                 Assemblyman Green over in the Assembly, to

                 basically provide the ability for grandparents

                 to have standing in custody proceedings.

                            And as we all know, there are not

                 tens of thousands but hundreds of thousands of

                 grandparents in New York State that are

                 effectively heads of households and have young

                 children with them, very often children who

                 are the children of their children.

                            And where those grandparents have

                 had that long and uninterrupted control, to go

                 into court and be told they had no standing

                 and some other party would, after all those

                 years of their serving as the primary



                                                        4060



                 caretaker, in effect become the custodian of

                 that child, is totally inequitable, totally

                 unacceptable.

                            This bill, as I said, after some

                 three years of effort, addresses that.

                            And there are a number of seniors

                 here with us today from the AARP who are

                 looking forward to the enactment of this

                 legislation.  And I congratulate them and

                 particularly Bridget Castellano, who certainly

                 worked tirelessly to bring this about.

                            Thank you, Madam President.  I vote

                 in the affirmative.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator LaValle.

                            SENATOR LaVALLE:    To explain my

                 vote, Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator LaValle,

                 to explain your vote.

                            SENATOR LaVALLE:    Madam

                 President, I rise and I want to compliment

                 Senator Saland for his work on this bill, his

                 focus, his diligence.

                            This bill came to my attention by

                 Bridget Castellano, who is a constituent of

                 mine.  And if there is a lesson to be learned



                                                        4061



                 from those outside of this chamber, it's that

                 citizen participation is important.  Citizen

                 participation can make a difference.  Citizens

                 have, through many of our deliberations,

                 gotten involved.

                            And so Bridget Castellano, working

                 with Senator Saland, myself, Assemblyman

                 Green, and others, really did make a

                 difference and will ensure that grandparents

                 will have standing, can provide a nurturing

                 environment for their grandchildren.

                            So again, Senator Saland, a job

                 well done.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Both of the

                 Senators will be recorded as voting in the

                 affirmative on this bill.

                            The Secretary will announce the

                 results.

                            THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

                 Calendar Number 536:  Ayes, 54.  Nays, 1.

                 Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 621, by Member of the Assembly Brodsky,



                                                        4062



                 Assembly Print Number 501B, an act to amend

                 the Public Health Law, in relation to

                 information relating to immunization.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect August 15.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Madam President,

                 would you recognize Senator Nozzolio to

                 explain his vote.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Yes, I am about

                 to recognize him, Senator.

                            Senator Nozzolio, to explain your

                 vote.

                            SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            I ask permission to explain my

                 vote, that this measure raises the awareness

                 about the very difficult disease meningitis

                 and makes sure students and their families

                 have information about how to prevent it.

                            Meningitis creates trauma, anguish,



                                                        4063



                 and sadness.  And that we issue this edict to

                 schools and other entities across the state in

                 an effort to inform the public about how this

                 disease ravages those young people,

                 particularly in the ages of 15 to 24.

                            That it was nine years ago, on a

                 Monday in June much like today, that I was

                 introduced to the ravages of this deadly

                 disease when my 21-year-old nephew and godson,

                 Matthew, died of spinal meningitis while

                 serving aboard the U.S.S. Nassau as a Navy

                 NROTC midshipman.

                            He was an NROTC scholar at Cornell

                 University, extremely fit, a leader of his

                 unit, serving aboard ship as part of summer

                 exercises.  Unfortunately, Matthew contracted

                 meningitis, even though in excellent health

                 and physical condition, and was stricken at

                 the prime of his life without so much as a

                 symptom being evidenced.

                            That killer is a killer that

                 hopefully this legislation will help to

                 prevent.  That in my grief, I found many

                 families across my own region and across this

                 state who have suffered similar anguish:



                                                        4064



                 Robert and Sharon Penafeather, of Auburn;

                 Doreen Ferraro, of Rochester, who lost her

                 20-year-old son, Joe; Cathy Hanagan, of Sodus,

                 whose daughter is now crippled because of the

                 disease; Tom Burke, of Auburn, who lost his

                 grandson, an all-Ivy-League football player at

                 Cornell who, at 21, lost his life.

                            Most recently, here in the Capital

                 Region, Matthew Martuscelo died at 17, and

                 Lindsay Jerdo, who was 18, died.  And I'd like

                 to read into the record briefly a comment made

                 by her sister, Melanie Wheaton, who indicated,

                 as she was brought into the intensive care

                 unit, that she would never forget seeing her

                 sister for the first time in the ICU.

                            Her eyes were closed.  Her face,

                 her arms, legs and torso were bruised so much

                 that it appeared she had been beaten up.  Her

                 once ivory-colored skin had taken on a

                 purplish appearance, due to the bacteria's

                 poisoning of her blood.  Not only was her body

                 bruised, but it was swollen to twice its the

                 normal size.  Her breathing was being assisted

                 with a ventilator.  All sorts of cords

                 attached to monitoring devices cascaded from



                                                        4065



                 her body.  There were multiple IVs pumping

                 fluids into her body, and everyone entering

                 the room was asked to put on a mask.

                            And that mask hid Melanie's tears

                 that flowed freely from her eyes on seeing her

                 sister.  She could not believe that her

                 healthy sister, 24 hours ago, was now dying.

                            And that's the insidious nature of

                 this disease, my colleagues.  And our efforts

                 are to increase awareness to families who have

                 children in the 15-to-24 age bracket in

                 particular, to know that there is a vaccine

                 for this disease, there is a way to prevent

                 the anguish that occurs -- anguish that I

                 daresay, from my personal loss of my nephew

                 and godson, that no family should have to

                 undergo.

                            Thank you for your support on this

                 legislation.  Thank you, Madam President, for

                 your indulgences in allowing me to explain my

                 vote.  I vote aye.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    And you will be

                 so recorded as voting in the affirmative,

                 Senator.

                            The Secretary will announce the



                                                        4066



                 results.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            Senator Sabini.

                            SENATOR SABINI:    Madam President,

                 I ask unanimous consent to be recorded in the

                 negative on Calendar Number 388.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Hearing no

                 objection, you will be so recorded as voting

                 in the negative.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 693, by Senator Robach, Senate Print 4202, an

                 act to amend the Retirement and Social

                 Security Law, in relation to additional

                 pension benefits.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.



                                                        4067



                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 704, by Member of the Assembly Abbate,

                 Assembly Print Number 5102, an act to amend

                 the Education Law, in relation to the payment.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            Senator Onorato.

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    Madam

                 President, I'd like the record to reflect the

                 last vote, recorded as 54, should have been

                 56.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Do you have a

                 point of order, Senator?

                            SENATOR ONORATO:    Yes.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Your point of

                 order is well taken.  Thank you, Senator.

                            The record will so reflect the

                 votes were 56, and not 54, in the affirmative.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)



                                                        4068



                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 751, by Member of the Assembly Canestrari,

                 Assembly Print Number 3806B, an act to amend

                 the Local Finance Law.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the same date as a

                 constitutional amendment proposed in a

                 concurrent resolution.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 776, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 4833A --

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number



                                                        4069



                 780, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 1374, an

                 act to amend the Insurance Law, in relation to

                 providing.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 782, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 3878B, an

                 act to amend Chapter 650 of the Laws of 1998

                 amending the Insurance Law.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 854, by Member of the Assembly Hoyt, Assembly

                 Print Number 6833, an act to amend the State



                                                        4070



                 Finance Law, in relation to payment.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 884, by Member of the Assembly Dinowitz,

                 Assembly Print Number 3039, an act to amend

                 the Vehicle and Traffic Law, in relation to

                 judicial review.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 30th day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number



                                                        4071



                 941, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 2568, an

                 act to amend the Retirement and Social

                 Security Law, in relation to the

                 twenty-year/age 50 retirement program.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 998, substituted earlier today by the Assembly

                 Committee on Rules, Assembly Print Number

                 8175A, an act to amend the Village Law and

                 others, in relation to recognition.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.



                                                        4072



                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1008, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,

                 Assembly Print Number 8442, an act to amend

                 the Banking Law.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1017, by Senator LaValle --

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1018, by Member of the Assembly Destito --

                            SENATOR BRESLIN:    Lay it aside,

                 please.



                                                        4073



                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1044, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 1505A,

                 an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law,

                 in relation to violation.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of

                 November.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1051, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 2526A,

                 an act in relation to requiring state

                 agencies.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.



                                                        4074



                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1059, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 2062C,

                 an act to amend the General Obligations Law,

                 in relation to the authority of caregivers.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 90th day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1105, by Senator McGee, Senate Print 3207, an

                 act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to

                 extending the expiration.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.



                                                        4075



                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1107, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 3327, an

                 act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to the

                 sales and use taxes imposed.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1110, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 3366, an

                 act to amend the Tax Law, in relation to

                 extending the expiration.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This



                                                        4076



                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1148, substituted earlier today by the

                 Assembly Committee on Rules, Assembly Print

                 Number 8145, an act to amend the Executive

                 Law, in relation to the training of

                 firefighters.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1153, by Senator Little, Senate Print 5158, an

                 act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

                 increasing the penalties for hazing.



                                                        4077



                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of

                 November.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1156, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 5312A,

                 an act authorizing the conveyance of certain

                 state lands.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number



                                                        4078



                 1229, by Senator Wright, Senate Print 1067, an

                 act to amend Chapter 647 of the Laws of 2002

                 relating to fire protection.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a

                 home-rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1231, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 2230, an

                 act to amend General Municipal Law, in

                 relation to authorizing the Massena Memorial

                 Hospital.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a

                 home-rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)



                                                        4079



                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1232, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 2610B, an

                 act to authorize the Village of Addison,

                 located in Steuben County.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a

                 home-rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1233, substituted earlier today by Member of

                 the Assembly Gottfried, Assembly Print Number

                 7150A, an act to amend Chapter 725 of the Laws

                 of 1989.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last



                                                        4080



                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1234, substituted earlier today by Member of

                 the Assembly Wirth, Assembly Print Number

                 5961, an act to amend the Real Property Tax

                 Law, in relation to providing.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of January.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            Senator Bonacic.

                            SENATOR BONACIC:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.  I ask for unanimous consent



                                                        4081



                 to be recorded in the negative on Calendar

                 Number 1230, Bill 4539, please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Without

                 objection, you will be so recorded as voting

                 in the negative, Senator.

                            SENATOR BONACIC:    Thank you.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Bonacic,

                 I've just been informed that the bill was

                 amended and laid aside.

                            SENATOR BONACIC:    I'll catch it

                 next time.

                            (Laughter.)

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Your vote is

                 rescinded.

                            SENATOR BONACIC:    Thank you,

                 Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    You're welcome.

                            The Secretary will continue to

                 read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1235, by Senator McGee, Senate Print 3257, an

                 act authorizing the reopening of the

                 twenty-year retirement plan.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a

                 home-rule message at the desk.



                                                        4082



                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1236, by Senator Velella, Senate Print 3922A,

                 an act authorizing the County of Westchester

                 to lease certain parklands.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a

                 home-rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1237, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 4086, an

                 act to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in



                                                        4083



                 relation to providing.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of January.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1239, by Senator Lachman, Senate Print 4649,

                 an act to amend the Public Authorities Law, in

                 relation to prescribing penalties.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1240, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 4831,



                                                        4084



                 an act to amend Chapter 434 of the Laws of

                 1999, amending the Education Law.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1241, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 4948, an

                 act to amend the Public Authorities Law, in

                 relation to New York State Thruway Authority

                 fees.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.



                                                        4085



                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1242, by Senator Velella, Senate Print 4950A,

                 an act to authorize the Village of Pelham, in

                 the County of Westchester.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a

                 home-rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1243, by Senator Hoffmann, Senate Print 5046,

                 an act to ratify, legalize, and validate

                 certain acts and proceedings of the Board of

                 Education of the Stockbridge Central School

                 District.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.



                                                        4086



                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1244, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 5107, an

                 act to amend the Penal Law, in relation to

                 authorizing a two-year period of conditional

                 discharge.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the 60th day.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1245, by Senator Little, Senate Print 5113, an

                 act to amend the Local Finance Law, in

                 relation to the sale of bonds to the New York

                 State Environmental Facilities Corporation.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.



                                                        4087



                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1246, by Senator Kuhl, Senate Print 5125, an

                 act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law, in

                 relation to overweight permits.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1247, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print --

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Lay it

                 aside.



                                                        4088



                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1248, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print

                 5166, an act to amend the Estates, Powers and

                 Trusts Law, in relation to the termination of

                 uneconomical trusts.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1250, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 5311, an

                 act in relation to legalizing, validating,

                 ratifying and confirming actions of the Rome

                 City School District.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a local

                 fiscal impact note at the desk.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Lay it aside for

                 the day.



                                                        4089



                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside for the day.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1251, by Senator McGee, Senate Print 5315, an

                 act to amend the Highway Law, in relation to

                 designating a portion of the state highway

                 system.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Madam President.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, we

                 inappropriately laid aside Calendar Number

                 1250.  Could you call that up again, please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

                 will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1250, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 5311, an



                                                        4090



                 act in relation to legalizing, validating,

                 ratifying and confirming.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a local

                 fiscal impact note at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 6.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1252, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 5321, an

                 act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in

                 relation to eliminating.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

                 please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1253, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 5325, an

                 act to amend the Education Law, in relation to

                 involuntary transfer.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Lay it



                                                        4091



                 aside.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1254, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 5331,

                 an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law,

                 in relation to periodic inspections.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1255, by Senator Velella, Senate Print 5347,

                 an act to authorize the County of Westchester

                 to discontinue.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a

                 home-rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.



                                                        4092



                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1256, by Senator Balboni, Senate Print 5360,

                 an act authorizing the Village of Roslyn

                 Estates, County of Nassau.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    There is a

                 home-rule message at the desk.

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1258, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 5373, an

                 act authorizing certain housing authorities to

                 transfer.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Lay it

                 aside.



                                                        4093



                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1259, by Senator Balboni, Senate Print 5375,

                 an act to authorize the Iranian Jewish

                 Center/Beth Hadassah Synagogue.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Bonacic recorded in the negative.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1262, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 5396, an

                 act to amend the Penal Law and the Correction

                 Law, in relation to the new crime of gang

                 sexual assault.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

                 section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of



                                                        4094



                 November.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

                 passed.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1263, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 5412 --

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Lay it

                 aside.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1264, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 5438, an

                 act to amend Criminal Procedure Law and the

                 Family Court Act, in relation to enacting the

                 Domestic Violence Omnibus Act of 2003.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Lay it aside for

                 the day, please.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

                 aside for the day.

                            Senator Kuhl, that completes the

                 noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Madam President,



                                                        4095



                 may we return to the order of reports of

                 standing committees.

                            I understand there's a Rules report

                 at the desk, and I ask that that be read.

                            THE PRESIDENT:    Reports of

                 standing committees.

                            The Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Bruno,

                 from the Committee on Rules, reports the

                 following bills:

                            Senate Print 175, by Senator

                 Hoffmann, an act to amend the Tax Law;

                            326A, by Senator DeFrancisco, an

                 act to amend the County Law;

                            348, by Senator LaValle, an act to

                 amend the State Finance Law;

                            409A, by Senator Velella, an act to

                 amend the Labor Law;

                            756, by Senator LaValle, an act to

                 amend the Environmental Conservation Law;

                            959, by Senator Nozzolio, an act to

                 amend the Criminal Procedure Law;

                            979A, by Senator Farley, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            1064A, by Senator Volker, an act to



                                                        4096



                 amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules;

                            1390, by Senator Spano, an act to

                 amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

                            1692A, by Senator Rath, an act to

                 amend the General Municipal Law;

                            2047, by Senator Rath, an act to

                 amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

                            2639B, by Senator Hannon, an act to

                 amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

                            2669, by Senator Golden, an act in

                 relation to authorizing;

                            2670, by Senator Marcellino, an act

                 to require;

                            2682A, by Senator Hannon, an act to

                 amend the Long-Term Care Integration and

                 Finance Act of 1997;

                            3130, by Senator Kuhl, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            3225, by Senator Spano, an act to

                 amend the Local Finance Law;

                            3320, by Senator McGee, an act to

                 amend the Election Law;

                            3465, by Senator Farley, an act to

                 amend the Retirement and Social Security Law;

                            3937, by Senator Seward, an act to



                                                        4097



                 amend the Tax Law;

                            3946A, by Senator Morahan, an act

                 granting;

                            4124, by Senator Velella, an act to

                 amend the Retirement and Social Security Law;

                            4137C, by Senator Seward, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            4254, by Senator Breslin, an act to

                 amend the Highway Law;

                            4404, by Senator DeFrancisco, an

                 act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules;

                            4409, by Senator Volker, an act to

                 amend the Public Authorities Law;

                            4538B, by Senator Oppenheimer, an

                 act authorizing;

                            4754, by Senator Balboni, an act to

                 amend Chapter 340;

                            4815, by Senator Leibell, an act to

                 amend the New York State Urban Development

                 Corporation Act;

                            4857, by Senator Wright, an act to

                 amend the Uniform Justice Court Act;

                            4883A, by Senator Johnson, an act

                 to amend the Public Officers Law;

                            4887, by Senator Leibell, an act to



                                                        4098



                 amend the Waterfront Commission Act;

                            4888, by Senator Marcellino, an act

                 to amend the Real Property Tax Law;

                            4915, by Senator Kuhl, an act to

                 amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

                            4918, by Senator Kuhl, an act to

                 amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

                            4943, by Senator Leibell, an act to

                 amend the Waterfront Commission Act;

                            4963A, by Senator Meier, an act to

                 amend the County Law;

                            4974, by Senator Nozzolio, an act

                 to amend the General Business Law;

                            4999, by Senator Bruno, an act to

                 amend the Penal Law and the Highway Law;

                            5090A, by the Senate Committee on

                 Rules, an act to amend the Education Law;

                            5110, by Senator Hoffmann, an act

                 to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law;

                            And Senate Print 5460, by Senator

                 Golden, an act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage

                 Control Law.

                            All bills ordered direct to third

                 reading.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator



                                                        4099



                 Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Move to accept the

                 report of the Rules Committee.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    All

                 those in favor of accepting the report of the

                 Rules Committee signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Those

                 opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    While we're on the

                 order of motions and resolutions, I understand

                 that there are some other motions at the desk

                 now.  Could we take those up.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Yes, we

                 will.

                            Senator Fuschillo.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Thank you,

                 Mr. President.

                            I wish to call up Senate Print

                 Number 2961, recalled from the Assembly, which

                 is now at the desk.



                                                        4100



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1100, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 2961,

                 an act to authorize.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Fuschillo.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now move to

                 reconsider the vote by which the bill was

                 passed.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll on reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.

                 President, I now offer the following

                 amendments.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted.

                            Senator Fuschillo.

                            SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.

                 President, on behalf of Senator Wright, on

                 page number 39 I offer the following

                 amendments to Calendar Number 918, Senate

                 Print 4890, and ask that said bill retain its



                                                        4101



                 place on Third Reading Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted, and the

                 bill will retain its place on the order of

                 third reading.

                            Senator Schneiderman.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

                 Mr. President.

                            I would request, on behalf of

                 Senator Sampson, on page 34, I offer the

                 following amendments at the desk to Calendar

                 Number 822, Senate Print Number 4347A, and ask

                 that this bill retain its place on the Third

                 Reading Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted, and the

                 bill will retain its place on the order of

                 third reading.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, we'd like to announce an immediate

                 meeting of the Rules Committee in the Majority

                 Conference Room, Room 332.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:

                 Immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in



                                                        4102



                 the Majority Conference Room.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, could we also, before we do the

                 controversial reading of the calendar, just

                 note for the members who are present that

                 Calendar Number 315 is being laid aside for

                 the day.

                            And then let's go to the

                 controversial reading of the calendar,

                 beginning with Calendar Number 212.

                            And we'd certainly like to remind

                 the members that there are only four scheduled

                 days left in session.  And so that we can

                 orderly proceed, if they've had a bill on the

                 calendar that's laid aside, we'd appreciate it

                 if they'd be in the chamber when the bill is

                 called up on the controversial reading for

                 debate.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read the controversial

                 calendar.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 212, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 345A, an

                 act to amend the Education Law, in relation to



                                                        4103



                 reporting requirements.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:

                 Explanation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 LaValle, Senator Schneiderman has requested an

                 explanation of Calendar 212.

                            SENATOR LaVALLE:    Yes.  Senator

                 Schneiderman, this is legislation that we

                 passed last year in this chamber.  It's a bill

                 that's sponsored by Assemblyman DiNapoli in

                 the Assembly.

                            What we are trying to do is that

                 whenever a student who has either an F1 or M1

                 visa, either has been accepted to a college

                 but fails to show up or is enrolled and

                 doesn't continue in the program that they have

                 been participating in -- leaves, disappears --

                 that the school has an obligation to contact

                 the State Police.  They also have various

                 federal responsibilities under the federal

                 act.

                            Our reason to have the State Police

                 involved is that the Office of Homeland

                 Security just simply does not have eyes and

                 ears all over the country, and that they have



                                                        4104



                 agreements that they have worked out with

                 local law enforcement agencies.  So it's

                 important for the State Police, if they see

                 someone on a list, that they can detain them

                 so that we might question them or do whatever

                 is appropriate.

                            And this legislation, I think

                 everyone is aware, was born out of the 9/11

                 incident.

                            And while our colleges and

                 universities loathe more paperwork, it's

                 unfortunate that this takes a priority in

                 terms of national security, that we know where

                 foreign students who come to New York State to

                 receive a superior education -- that they are

                 abiding by our laws, that they're being good

                 citizens, as most of them are while they are

                 here.  But for those who are here to do harm,

                 we want to make sure that we know where the

                 students are and that we are engaging our law

                 enforcement officers.

                            There's other provisions in here

                 that requires the universities and colleges to

                 provide some data that should not be really

                 overburdensome.



                                                        4105



                            And that's really the provisions of

                 this bill, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Stavisky.

                            SENATOR STAVISKY:    Mr. President,

                 if the sponsor would yield, very briefly.

                            SENATOR LaVALLE:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR STAVISKY:    You're asking

                 the colleges and universities to supply the

                 state police with additional data.  Are there

                 any funds provided in the legislation so that

                 they will have a way of paying for the extra

                 cost?

                            In other words, doesn't this

                 represent, you know, a mandate without money,

                 an unfunded mandate?

                            SENATOR LaVALLE:    Senator, their

                 obligation is only in those situations where a

                 student who has been accepted and never

                 arrives or a student who started and does not

                 continue their studies.

                            I would assume that those incidents

                 would be very minor and that their reporting



                                                        4106



                 obligation would really be de minimis.

                            SENATOR STAVISKY:    One last

                 question, if the sponsor would yield.

                            SENATOR LaVALLE:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR STAVISKY:    Aren't they

                 already required to report this information to

                 the Immigration and Naturalization Service?

                            SENATOR LaVALLE:    Yes.  The

                 answer is yes.  This is under, now, our

                 homeland security.

                            SENATOR STAVISKY:    Homeland

                 security.

                            On the bill, Mr. President.  Thank

                 you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Stavisky, on the bill.

                            SENATOR STAVISKY:    Very briefly,

                 I'm going to vote against this bill, as I did

                 in committee.  Because aside from the unfunded

                 mandate, the reporting to the State Police is

                 duplicative and unnecessary, since we

                 already -- they already report it to the

                 federal authorities.



                                                        4107



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Schneiderman.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

                 Mr. President.  On the bill.

                            Once again, I think this is a

                 well-intended but misguided piece of

                 legislation.  The federal government, in

                 accordance with the USA PATRIOT Act, has

                 something called the Student and Exchange

                 Visitor Information System, SEVIS.  And that

                 was mandated to be fully implemented by the

                 beginning of this year.

                            This is an Internet-based

                 communications system that all of the

                 educational institutions in the country are to

                 place the information on that's required by

                 the federal government.

                            What I'm afraid we're doing here is

                 creating a second system of reporting so that

                 some information will go to the state

                 authorities here in New York while the feds

                 are setting up this Internet-based system to

                 provide information to local agencies all

                 around the country.

                            And my suggestion would be that



                                                        4108



                 perhaps we should take another look at this in

                 light of the service available through SEVIS.

                 I would think that if the federal government,

                 that does have primary responsibility for

                 dealing with these issues, wants to, they can

                 make the information available to the state

                 authorities through this Internet-based system

                 without causing any additional burden to our

                 already overburdened institutions of higher

                 education.

                            Furthermore, in some situations it

                 very well may be that federal authorities have

                 different or additional information.  And it

                 would be better if the state authorities and

                 the federal authorities were working off the

                 same system.  Since we are now required to

                 spend all this money setting up this Internet

                 based system, it just doesn't make any sense

                 to set up a separate process.

                            I'm going to be voting no.  I think

                 that the way for us to move on this issue is

                 really to ensure that our local authorities

                 are receiving all the information that's in

                 SEVIS and that there is a seamless flow of

                 information between them and the federal



                                                        4109



                 agencies with primary responsibility for

                 dealing with these issues.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Lachman.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Yes, on the

                 bill.

                            I think Senator LaValle's intent

                 was positive and noble.  And I think that when

                 he initially presented the bill to this

                 chamber, which I believe was a year or two

                 ago, the Office of Homeland Security had not

                 fully been restructured, as it has during the

                 last 12 months under Governor Tom Ridge.

                            And I agree with my colleagues that

                 it would be duplicative and it might serve the

                 reverse purpose of what it's going to do.

                            I also will be voting against it

                 for another reason.  And I think that since

                 9/11, many foreign students and foreigners,

                 noncitizens, have been put on the spot.  It's

                 important for us to maintain our security at

                 the highest level.  But it's also important

                 for us to maintain basic civil liberties.

                            Again, I say that the intent of



                                                        4110



                 Senator LaValle was good, and I think that

                 changes have been made, and I think we have to

                 abide by certain basic liberties that make the

                 United States of America different from other

                 countries in the world.  So I regret that I

                 will have to vote no.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Read the

                 last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of August.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Call the

                 roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

                 the negative on Calendar Number 212 are

                 Senators Breslin, Brown, Dilán, Lachman,

                 Parker, Paterson, Schneiderman, and Stavisky.

                 Ayes, 51.  Nays, 8.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The bill

                 is passed.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, we again inadvertently laid aside

                 for the day Calendar Number 315.  And with the

                 consent of the Minority, we're going to be



                                                        4111



                 coming back to that.

                            But before we do, I'd like to call

                 out of order Calendar Number 1253 -- that's

                 Senator Saland -- and then go back to Calendar

                 Number 315 in the regular order.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    The

                 Secretary will read Calendar 1253.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1253, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 5325, an

                 act to amend the Education Law, in relation to

                 involuntary transfer of violent or disruptive

                 pupils.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:

                 Explanation.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MEIER:    Senator

                 Saland, an explanation has been requested.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            Mr. President, this bill is a

                 response to a commissioner's ruling in 1998

                 which held that it was error for a school

                 district to remove a violent or disruptive

                 student providing that under the existing law

                 the only basis for transferring a student --

                 and perhaps I should use the term



                                                        4112



                 "transferring" instead of "removing" -- would

                 have been whatever was in the best interest of

                 that student.

                            This attempts to expand the current

                 ability of a school to include violent and

                 disruptive students.  That assumedly not only

                 benefits the student but certainly benefits

                 his or her classmates and the school at large

                 as well.

                            That removal would occur with the

                 same hearing process that occurs under the

                 existing law and would be subject to the very

                 same requirements and certainly could not be

                 arbitrary or capricious.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Schneiderman.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

                 Mr. President.  If the sponsor would yield for

                 a few brief questions.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Saland, do you yield?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    He

                 yields, Senator.



                                                        4113



                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you.

                            I'm not completely clear on the

                 relationship between the interpretation of the

                 law by the State Education Commissioner and

                 the existing statute.

                            Where is -- what was the

                 interpretation based on, to the extent that

                 you can enlighten us?  Because this is adding

                 an additional penalty to the statute, but I'm

                 not sure I understand what brought on this

                 interpretation by the commissioner.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    I'll cite you

                 the hearing case.  It is in the appeal of

                 Lamar Reeves on behalf of Lamar Reeves, Jr.,

                 from an action in the Board of Education, City

                 School District of the City of Buffalo,

                 regarding Student Suspension Decision Number

                 13,857, and it was decided January 20, 1998.

                            And what it says, in part -- it's a

                 somewhat lengthy opinion, about six pages

                 worth -- it says, This -- and I'm now quoting

                 on page 4.  It says "This reassignment" --

                 which refers to the removal of the student

                 from his prior school to another -- "clearly

                 constitutes a transfer.  However, a transfer



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                 is not an authorized penalty in student

                 discipline cases under Education Law 3214."

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you.

                 Through you, Mr. President, if the sponsor

                 would continue to yield.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Is there

                 any provision made in this law or elsewhere

                 regarding the nature of the transfer, where

                 the transfer would be to or to control this?

                            The concern that has been expressed

                 in some situations is that transferring

                 disruptive students around often can create

                 more problems than it solves.  And in some

                 areas, it's been used and, some people

                 contend, abused to move students around from

                 one place to another without addressing their

                 underlying problems.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Well, the

                 language on the first page of our bill,

                 Senator Schneiderman -- and it would begin on

                 line 7 -- basically is the transfer should be



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                 to a more appropriate educational setting in

                 another school.

                            We leave that ability to those in

                 the administration who would be making that

                 decision.  Assumedly they would be far more

                 adept than I would to determine where that

                 appropriate placement would be.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you.

                            Through you, Mr. President, if the

                 sponsor would continue to yield.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    That's

                 really where the difficulty is.  What is

                 the -- what checks or balances are there on

                 this very, very critical decision of what

                 constitutes a more appropriate educational

                 setting in another school?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    As you and I can

                 probably appreciate, it certainly could not be

                 arbitrary and capricious.  And that is what's

                 provided for really in the existing law.

                            Whatever the guidelines are that



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                 currently would control a hearing, where there

                 was a desire to transfer a student under the

                 existing law, would be the same control

                 mechanisms that would exist here.

                            And as far as I'm aware, there

                 hasn't been a great hue and cry that that has

                 not been working appropriately.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    And

                 through you, Mr. President, if the sponsor

                 would continue to yield.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    And is

                 there any provision for transfers outside of

                 the particular district?

                            I note that it refers to board of

                 education, board of trustees, or sole

                 trustees, superintendent of schools, district

                 superintendent --

                            SENATOR SALAND:    No, there is

                 not.  Nor is that the intent.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    I see.

                 Thank you.



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                            Thank you, Mr. President.  Thank

                 the sponsor.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Thank you,

                 Senator.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Lachman, why do you rise?

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Yes, through

                 you, Mr. President, will the sponsor yield for

                 a question or two?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 sponsor yields.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    First, I would

                 like to commend the sponsor for sentences 6 to

                 22, which in many ways preserves the civil

                 rights --

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Excuse me,

                 Senator Lachman.  I'm having a difficult time

                 hearing you.  It's probably my hearing, not

                 your speaking.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Also if we could have a little order in the

                 chamber, please.

                            Members, take your conversations



                                                        4118



                 out of the chamber.  Staff, take your seats,

                 please.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    I would like to

                 first of all, as a preamble to my questions,

                 commend the Senator for having the sentences

                 dealing with the period -- may not be

                 suspended for a period in excess of five

                 school days and/or transferred unless such

                 people and persons in parental relations, such

                 people have an opportunity to a fair hearing.

                 And the way you spell out the hearing, the

                 fair hearing.

                            And I am not only supportive of

                 this because I wrote this into the New York

                 City Board of Education provisions on

                 suspension, but it is good for the entire

                 State of New York.

                            But I also have some questions, one

                 of which was touched upon by Senator

                 Schneiderman and one or two of which he did

                 not reach.

                            And that is I'm not sure what is

                 meant by "a more appropriate educational

                 setting."  There was a time in the New York

                 City school system where it would be revolving



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                 doors, and principals -- Principal A would

                 send a student to Principal B, and Principal B

                 would send a student to Principal A.  And what

                 Principal A and B could not do, they would

                 send to Principal C.

                            Now, what do we mean by

                 "appropriate educational settings," and how do

                 we eliminate this revolving door?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Well, let me try

                 and respond to that in two ways.

                            Number one, the very fair hearing

                 to which you alluded certainly would be one

                 means by which that would happen.  Because,

                 again, any administrative hearing cannot

                 tolerate action that's arbitrary and

                 capricious.  So if there's a sense that this

                 is arbitrary and capricious, the proposed

                 transfer, it certainly would have to fall.

                            The other might be perhaps a bit

                 more general.  I would certainly hope that

                 with some of the changes, particularly going

                 on within the structure of the city system

                 currently right now, that it might be a system

                 that might be more responsive and more

                 sensitive to the very issue that you raise and



                                                        4120



                 others have raised as well.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Mr. President,

                 through you, will the sponsor continue to

                 yield?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    I

                 believe the sponsor will yield.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    The last part

                 of the bill, Senator Saland, as you know,

                 deals with a student with a disability, as

                 defined -- blah, blah, blah -- in this

                 chapter.  And you will be treating the student

                 with a disability differently than other

                 students.  And I agree with that.

                            But how do you deal with the

                 student with disabilities?  That isn't spelled

                 out.  And that is in the bill that I have in

                 my hand.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    This section

                 reflects the reality of special ed, or IDEA.

                 We could not lawfully, nor would we want to,

                 transfer a student because of his or her

                 disability.  That is precluded by law.

                            And this merely is an effort to



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                 acknowledge that where there is a student with

                 a disability, we have to be cognizant of what

                 the federal law is and we cannot be

                 insensitive to the fact that that particular

                 student is disabled.  And that cannot be

                 whatever is generating the desire to transfer.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Mr. President,

                 will the sponsor continue to yield?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Sponsor, will you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    He

                 continues to yield.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    So there will

                 be no involuntary transfer of a student with a

                 disability even if the student acts out,

                 quote, end of quote, in a classroom setting?

                 Or are there procedures that we follow in this

                 transfer?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    I think in my

                 response to you earlier what I said was that

                 we want to be in compliance with the federal

                 law, as well we should, nor would anybody want

                 to transfer a student simply based upon



                                                        4122



                 whatever that student's disability might be.

                            If the reason for the transfer or

                 the proposed transfer is not related to the

                 disability, that student can still be

                 transferred.

                            I mean, the bottom line is you

                 can't say that "I want to transfer Johnny or

                 Susie because it's troublesome because they're

                 disabled."

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    So what you're

                 basically saying -- Mr. President, through

                 you -- is that a student who acts out in the

                 classroom, even though he has a disability,

                 can still be transferred, even with the

                 disability, to the same school as those who

                 don't have disabilities?  Or will another

                 situation or setting be created for him or

                 her?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    I lost you -- as

                 I said earlier, I'm having some trouble

                 hearing.  I lost you about 15 seconds before

                 the end.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Okay.  Will

                 this student who has a disability who will be

                 transferred, will he be transferred under the



                                                        4123



                 same principles -- will he or she be

                 transferred under the same principles as a

                 student without a disability, or are there

                 separate measures used for that transfer?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    It would be the

                 same process.  Again, keeping in mind that the

                 disability can't be what generates the

                 process.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Okay.  Mr.

                 President, through you, a final question, a

                 technical question.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Will the sponsor yield for a final question?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, I do yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    He

                 yields.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Now, this might

                 seem like a minor question.  It's a technical

                 one.  You mention in your bill that a record

                 of the hearing shall be maintained, but no

                 stenographic transcript shall be required and

                 a tape recording shall be deemed a

                 satisfactory record.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Excuse me, Mr.



                                                        4124



                 President.  Can we just get this door closed?

                 I truly am having a difficult time.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Forgive me.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    I heard you

                 through "no stenographic record."

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Okay, forgive

                 me.  I will try to speak a little bit louder.

                            In the bill, the bill is written --

                            SENATOR SALAND:    I heard you

                 through "no stenographic record be

                 maintained," and then --

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    How do you

                 differentiate between a stenographic record

                 and a tape -- if you're using a stenographic

                 record and you're using a tape recording, why

                 only use one for the permanent record and not

                 both for the permanent record?  And if you

                 don't need the second one, why even have it at

                 the hearing?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    It basically

                 tracks existing law.  And some people seek to

                 have a stenographer; others will accept the

                 recording.  Some people feel more comfortable

                 with a stenographer.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    One final



                                                        4125



                 question, and on the --

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    Is

                 this the final final or the second final?

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Final final.

                 This is not, Mr. President, the penultimate,

                 this is the ultimate.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Saland, do you yield?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Thank you.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    I'm still not

                 clear, though, Senator Saland, and perhaps you

                 can clarify it.  If only one of these two is

                 used for the permanent record, whether it be a

                 stenographic transcript or a recording, then

                 why is it necessary to have two during the

                 process or the procedure itself?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    It is not --

                 Senator Lachman, it's not two.  You will

                 receive routinely the tape recorded

                 proceeding.  If you prefer to have a

                 stenographer, you can have a stenographer.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    That's not



                                                        4126



                 mentioned in the bill.  As long as you explain

                 it that way.  But it is not mentioned in the

                 bill that way.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    It is not a

                 both.

                            SENATOR LACHMAN:    Okay.

                            Mr. President, that was my final

                 question.  I want to thank Senator Saland for

                 his patience.  Thank you kindly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Krueger, why do you rise?

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Through

                 you, Mr. President, if the sponsor would yield

                 for a question.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Sponsor, will you yield?

                            SENATOR SALAND:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 sponsor is yielding.

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you,

                 Mr. President.

                            And, Senator Saland, I apologize if

                 you answered this question while I was in the

                 Rules Committee.  So I'm going to hope this is



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                 new territory for us.

                            In your bill you talk about

                 transfer to an alternative school.  I come

                 from New York City, where it's conceivable

                 within one school district you would have

                 multiple schools.  But in many parts of the

                 state, I would argue -- perhaps in your own

                 district -- there is one high school, there is

                 one middle school.

                            So I am concerned where we might be

                 transferring disruptive students to,

                 particularly in light of the fact that while

                 in the bill it doesn't say anything about

                 alternative locations -- I'm sorry, just to

                 reference the memo.  In your memo "It says

                 schools are developing alternative sites to

                 deal with disruptive students."  In your bill,

                 you say only "transfer to another school."

                            So I guess it's a two-parter one.

                 What happens when there is no other school?

                 And, two, does your memo imply that there are

                 other alternatives out there that are not

                 school settings?  That's not clear to me.

                            SENATOR SALAND:    The answer to

                 your last question is no.  And I mentioned, in



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                 response to an earlier question, that a

                 student cannot be transferred out of the

                 district.  And if there is no alternative

                 school available, then there is no place to

                 transfer the student.

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

                            Mr. President, briefly on the bill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Krueger, on the bill.

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

                            I will support the bill because I

                 do understand the concern of teachers and

                 parents that one disruptive student can trap

                 an entire classroom of students into a

                 situation where they cannot complete their

                 educational attainment and goals.

                            But I object to the fact that we're

                 not putting a fiscal cost on this bill.

                 Because surely to come up with real

                 alternatives for children who have serious

                 disruptive behavior in our classrooms we have

                 to talk about investments of where we're

                 placing them.

                            And particularly in my own city,

                 where we've made announcements of alternative



                                                        4129



                 schools but never followed through on the

                 creation of them -- and I would assume the

                 same is true throughout much of the state --

                 we're setting ourselves up where to some

                 degree we may be establishing one more

                 unfunded mandate for our public school system.

                            So I will vote for the bill, but I

                 have serious concerns about how this will ever

                 be operationalized.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    Any

                 other Senator wishing to be heard on the bill?

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of

                 September.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

                 1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

                            In relation to Calendar Number

                 1253:  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 2.  Senators Diaz and

                 Duane --

                            SENATOR DIAZ:    Can I be allowed



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                 to explain my vote?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Diaz, to explain his vote.

                            SENATOR DIAZ:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I'm just voting against this bill

                 because I come from the South Bronx, a

                 Hispanic community.  And my community is one

                 of those communities that children are

                 placed -- marked just like disruptive students

                 just because sometimes they raise their voice.

                            We come from the Caribbean.  We

                 have a high tone of voice.  And we, when we

                 speak, sometimes people think that we are

                 crazy.  But we're not.  And our children, by

                 hundreds, are placed in the disruptive

                 children category and are placed in unwanted

                 children.

                            And I'm afraid that this bill will

                 give more authority or more power to different

                 teachers and schools to keep placing Hispanic

                 and black children in that category.  And this

                 is a very dangerous bill for our community.

                            So therefore I'm voting no on this

                 bill.



                                                        4131



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Diaz will be recorded in the negative.

                            Announce the results.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.  Nays,

                 2.  Senators Diaz and Duane recorded in the

                 negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 bill is passed.

                            Senator Smith, why do you rise?

                            SENATOR MALCOLM SMITH:    Mr.

                 President, I would request unanimous consent

                 to be recorded in the negative on Calendar

                 Number 212, Senate Print 345A.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    So

                 ordered.

                            Senator Sabini, why do you rise?

                            SENATOR SABINI:    Mr. President, I

                 ask for unanimous consent to be recorded in

                 the negative on Senate Calendar 212, S345A.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    So

                 ordered.

                            Senator Krueger, why do you rise?

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

                 I too was in Rules at the time of that vote.

                 I would like unanimous consent to be recorded



                                                        4132



                 in the negative on 212, S345A.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    So

                 ordered.

                            Senator Duane.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  I also was in Rules, and I would

                 like to be recorded in the negative on

                 Calendar Number 212.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    So

                 ordered.

                            Senator Bonacic.

                            SENATOR BONACIC:    Mr. President,

                 now that everyone is back from Rules, I'd like

                 to continue with the regular reading of the

                 controversial calendar, Number 315, by Senator

                 Little.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 315, by Senator Little, Senate Print 1783A, an

                 act to amend the Environmental Conservation

                 Law and others, in relation to the practice of

                 forestry.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:

                 Explanation.



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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Little, an explanation has been

                 requested by Senator Schneiderman.

                            SENATOR LITTLE:    Thank you.

                 Thank you for the opportunity to explain this

                 bill.

                            The need for this bill became

                 apparent in 1995.  And the bill before this

                 Legislature is a culmination of a bill that

                 had been drafted and carried by Senator

                 Stafford, another bill by Senator Hoffmann,

                 and another by Senator McGee.

                            This bill does two things.  Number

                 one, it enacts the protection of forestry by

                 enacting the right to practice forestry

                 regulation.  It also increases the timber

                 theft penalties.

                            First of all, to talk about the

                 right to practice forestry, as you know, I

                 represent the Adirondack Park, a park of

                 6 million acres, 3 million of which are owned

                 by the State of New York.  There are probably

                 99 billion trees within the Adirondack Park.

                 And also, it is the center of the forest

                 products industry.  There are many companies



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                 and industries who have located in this

                 section of New York State because of the

                 natural resources of the trees that are

                 available.  To a name a few, Finch Pruyn

                 Paper, International Paper, several other

                 paper companies and wood product businesses,

                 including Old Adirondack Furniture, a new

                 business that's there because of that.

                            Many towns and local municipalities

                 have enacted local ordinances that in some way

                 would have an impact on the practice of

                 forestry.  And the number of ordinances, local

                 ordinances that were enacted have increased,

                 so that there are presently 123 towns within

                 New York State with some kind of ordinance.

                            Now, one of the ordinances, a

                 common one, is clear-cutting.  This bill would

                 not do a thing to prevent a local municipality

                 from enacting an ordinance.  What it would do

                 is it would allow for the municipality itself,

                 the landowner, or the Department of

                 Environmental Conservation, to seek a review

                 of the ordinance.

                            The petitioner petitions the DEC,

                 sends the ordinance to the DEC, and within 45



                                                        4135



                 days the DEC makes a statement in regard to

                 that ordinance and what its impact is on the

                 practice of forestry.

                            One of the things that we need to

                 consider is that this is an important industry

                 for New York State and many of these

                 landowners own thousands of acres of forest

                 land.  Many of them own smaller amounts.

                            If they were not allowed to

                 practice forestry on these parcels of land,

                 they would develop them, because that would be

                 their only other recourse as far as getting

                 some financial gain from their land.  So it's

                 important that they continue to be able to

                 practice forestry.

                            One of the oppositions to this

                 bill, or a comment that was made by the

                 environmental group, is that it would allow

                 for the cutting of trees on the Forest

                 Preserve.  It would not.  The New York State

                 Constitution forbids the removal of trees from

                 the Forest Preserve.  Therefore, if a tree

                 falls down -- if, in the instance of Gore

                 Mountain, where they were allowed to clear

                 some ski slopes, if trees are taken down, if



                                                        4136



                 limbs are taken down, branches, whatever,

                 those trees have to be chipped up and left on

                 the property.

                            That doesn't help the forest

                 products industry at all.  Therefore, this

                 would not supersede, certainly, the New York

                 State Constitution in that way.

                            Another thing that this bill does

                 is it increases the penalties for the taking

                 of trees.  Sometimes -- and if you've ever

                 been in the Adirondacks, you would know that

                 these boundary lines are not marked.  You can

                 have a parcel of land of, for instance,

                 8 acres surrounded by 300 acres of state land.

                            A timber person who was trying to

                 get some extra trees could go through a

                 private operator's land on the idea they are

                 timbering that land, move into the state land

                 and timber trees from the state land, which we

                 would not want to see happen.

                            Right now the penalty for unlawful

                 taking of trees is like $10, $25.  And so many

                 of these companies would just as soon take a

                 tree and pay the penalty, because the tree is

                 worth far more than the penalty.



                                                        4137



                            This bill increases the penalty and

                 the damages, making it much more substantial,

                 and will act as a deterrent to people who are

                 trying remove trees illegally from private or

                 state land.

                            Just imagine the cost or the value

                 of a black walnut tree or some of the other

                 hardwood trees that are very difficult to come

                 by -- cherry trees.  And if they're stolen,

                 the value of that tree should be considered

                 certainly before -- as part of the penalty.

                            A third part of this bill is that

                 it would, in accordance with the Attorney

                 General -- who supports this bill -- and the

                 Office of Court Administration, provide

                 educational training to local municipal judges

                 and courts on the control and prosecution of

                 timber theft -- it would also include district

                 attorneys -- to see that if timber is stolen,

                 that they are able to prosecute and they have

                 a better knowledge and ability to go ahead and

                 do that.

                            This bill is supported by the

                 Adirondack Council, by the Empire State Forest

                 Products, by the Farm Bureau, verbally by the



                                                        4138



                 Attorney General, and by the Association of

                 Towns.

                            This is an important bill for an

                 important business in the North Country and

                 for New York State.  Certainly the practice of

                 forestry is something that we need to promote

                 and promote in good ways and see that it is

                 not impeded by too many regulations.

                            Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Schneiderman.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

                 Mr. President.  On the bill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Schneiderman, on the bill.

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    I'd like

                 to thank the sponsor for her detailed

                 explanation.  We didn't get into my favorite

                 provision of the bill, which is the

                 determination of stumpage value, but I think

                 I'll leave that for another day.

                            This bill, as with many of -- I

                 know you're ready to talk about it.

                            (Laughter.)

                            SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    This bill,



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                 as with many of its predecessors,

                 unfortunately is in the situation of being a

                 piece of legislation where there are several

                 issues rolled into one bill, making it

                 impossible in good conscience to vote for the

                 bill.

                            It is absolutely clear that the

                 fines for timber theft, which are in fact $10

                 per tree, are woefully out of date.  If we had

                 a simple bill before us to increase the fines,

                 I think that no one would have any questions

                 about that.

                            Unfortunately, this bill has been

                 drafted with several provisions which come

                 close to being -- really, to being poison

                 pills.  And that's why Environmental Advocates

                 and the Sierra Club are opposed to it.

                            In addition to dealing with the

                 question of updating New York's laws relating

                 to illegal harvesting and other crimes, it

                 sets an unrealistically high unenforceable

                 standard for landowners to recover nonforestry

                 reparations from tree thieves.  The language

                 in the bill requires them -- and particularly

                 small landowners would not be able to do this



                                                        4140



                 very easily -- to show, quote, permanent and

                 substantial damage to their property.

                            Instead of providing a stronger

                 weapon with which we could combat timber

                 theft, in fact, this diminishes the power of

                 the current law.

                            The second and I believe even more

                 egregious failing of this bill is that it

                 opens the door and allows any landowner who

                 doesn't like what the local government is

                 doing to call the commissioner in and the

                 commissioner could intervene in a local

                 proceeding.  And the fear of the

                 environmentalists is that there could be

                 repeated requests, that this could be used as

                 a strategy for stalling local laws and

                 chilling local government actions.

                            And particularly the fact anyone

                 who is concerned about this, any landowner in

                 a jurisdiction, maybe the one landowner who

                 opposes stronger environmental laws that the

                 local government is trying to pass, could call

                 DEC in to impede the local government from

                 taking action.

                            For those reasons, I feel compelled



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                 to vote against this.  I hope we will be able

                 to get a bill out very soon that deals with

                 the very serious problem that is the primary

                 focus of this bill, the question of timber

                 left and our inadequate laws in that area.

                            But as long as it's rolled into one

                 piece of legislation with these other

                 provisions that really are harmful to our

                 efforts to strengthen environmental

                 enforcement in this state, I'm going to be

                 constrained to vote no.  And I urge my

                 colleagues to do likewise.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Hoffmann, before you do, can we have a

                 little order, please.  Conversations, if you

                 can, take them out of the chamber.  Staff,

                 please take your seats.

                            Senator Hoffmann.

                            SENATOR HOFFMANN:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I rise as a proud cosponsor of this

                 piece of legislation.  And this bill

                 introduced by Senator Little on the floor

                 today incorporates many of the provisions --

                 indeed most of the provisions of a piece of



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                 legislation that Senator McGee and I worked on

                 over a period of several years.  That is the

                 timber theft bill, of Senate 2748, that was

                 several years in the making and followed the

                 long process that is often engaged by this

                 body of public hearings around the state.

                            In this case, we held hearings --

                 and I must credit Senator McGee, who was at

                 that time chair of the Rural Resources

                 Commission and continues to be chair of the

                 Rural Resources Commission.  Senator McGee and

                 her staff organized hearings in virtually

                 every corner of the state that has experienced

                 a problem with the growing issue of timber

                 theft.

                            And while I understand from Senator

                 Schneiderman, who has a district that is

                 wholly urban, issues like stumpage value may

                 seem somewhat comical, to those of us in an

                 upstate area that rely upon income from the

                 forest products industry and from agriculture,

                 it is a very real problem.  And to some it has

                 been a severe economic hardship.

                            So I applaud the rest of my

                 colleagues who have voiced their concern for a



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                 timber theft bill and a forest practices bill

                 to come to the floor in this unified fashion.

                            And it's not the first time that

                 we've seen an opposition memo from

                 Environmental Advocates, and I'm sure it won't

                 be the last.  But this particular memo

                 unfortunately reads from a perspective that

                 has little firsthand appreciation of the lives

                 of people who are affected by the concept of

                 forest industry practices or anybody who has

                 ever been victimized by timber theft.

                            Several of the features of this

                 bill deserve to be noted.  Number one,

                 changing stumpage value to award triple or

                 treble stumpage value or treble damages for

                 the theft of a tree.

                            Now, there's a reason for this.

                 When someone calls a law enforcement officer

                 usually a sheriff in a rural county, and says,

                 We have had trees stolen, that law enforcement

                 officer may or may not be able to determine

                 that this was in fact a valuable tree.

                            Typically, in law enforcement, it's

                 easy to go after goods that are consumer

                 items.  If you have a television stolen and



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                 you can say, Someone stole a television from

                 my house, you can give a pretty good

                 explanation of what that television looked

                 like, maybe even what the serial number is on

                 it.

                            But a log is a different story, or

                 a standing tree is a different story.  And

                 there is an enormous disparity between an ash

                 of modest value and a beautiful, mature black

                 walnut or cherry tree with veneer quality that

                 could be worth several thousand dollars.

                            So we have had a need to determine

                 a value that more accurately reflects what

                 that landowner has actually lost.  And this

                 bill will do that.

                            It also awards the cost of

                 maintaining an action.  This allows somebody

                 who has been victimized to know that they can

                 recover the actual legal costs of implementing

                 the action.

                            In the past, many, many people who

                 were victims of timber theft knew that the

                 likelihood of ever recovering anything at all

                 was so small that they were not willing to

                 even undertake the legal process.



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                            And, sadly, there are thieves out

                 there -- and I'm not going to call them

                 loggers, because they're solely disreputable

                 people that should not be given that title at

                 all.  These people have preyed upon

                 individuals, often absentee landowners, people

                 who own large tracts of land for their beauty,

                 own them so that they can manage their wood

                 lots, but don't live on that same parcel.

                            Knowing full well that an absentee

                 landowner is not going to be as quick to

                 determine that a loss has taken place,

                 unscrupulous timber thieves have in some cases

                 stolen hundreds of trees from some of these

                 landowners.  And those thieves have known that

                 there was little likelihood that they would

                 ever be brought to justice.

                            This bill, this law is long

                 overdue.  And I hope all of my colleagues will

                 recognize the need for rural residents to have

                 it enacted as quickly as possible.

                            The bill also allows the cost of

                 restoration to be included in the damages

                 awarded.  Now, it's not possible to bring back

                 a 100-year-old tree, but there is damage to



                                                        4146



                 the land that must be considered.  Ruts caused

                 by the skidders, ruts caused by heavy trucks,

                 damage to other brush, all of these things can

                 be addressed.  And the remediation aspect is

                 carefully written within this measure.

                            There are several things that this

                 bill does not do.  And I would just like to

                 address those, because in our long series of

                 hearings we recognized that the risks of

                 timber theft are so great in this state that

                 there was a temptation to put in place some

                 measures that might have been extreme and

                 might have caused a hardship to legitimate

                 people practicing the forest products industry

                 trades.

                            For instance, it does not include a

                 seizure provision.  And this was a matter of

                 great discussion during the meetings of our

                 task force.  And there are very good arguments

                 in favor of seizing all equipment that is used

                 in the process of committing that crime.  We

                 do that with drug trafficking right now.  We

                 do that in other areas.  But we do not put

                 that -- we did not put that in this particular

                 bill.



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                            However, if the problem of timber

                 theft continues to be as great in this state

                 as it has been in the past, that's something

                 that we may well revisit again.

                            We did not include anything that

                 would require onerous recordkeeping for

                 individual logs.  There are states that

                 require a virtual manifest for every log taken

                 from a piece of property and transported to a

                 mill.

                            In this state, the weight of that

                 load or other ways to determine the size of

                 the trees or the total board feet will be the

                 criteria, as it always has been.  However,

                 again, we reserve the right to come back.

                            And I thank all of the people who

                 raised their concerns about putting onerous

                 provisions in the timber theft law.

                            But there will be higher penalties

                 and easier prosecution, better education for

                 people in law enforcement, including those at

                 the district attorney level and for the

                 judiciary, and the DEC will be much more

                 integrally involved because they'll now have

                 an opportunity to cite specific language that



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                 is relevant to these days.

                            In 1963, when had you a black

                 cherry worth approximately $50 for a thousand

                 feet of board wood, it was a relatively

                 reasonable penalty on the books.  Today, that

                 same black cherry tree is worth $1200 for a

                 thousand board feet.  And it's time for us to

                 address this situation seriously.

                            There are 14,000 acres of private

                 forest land in this state, more than the total

                 acreage of some states and some small

                 countries, and there are another 1140 acres of

                 public land.  All of these lands are at risk.

                 We have a responsibility to protect those

                 lands, their landowners, whether they be

                 private owners or whether they be the

                 taxpayers of the State of New York.

                            And we know, a conservative

                 estimate is that there is $1 million lost

                 annually in tax revenue because of timber

                 thefts -- tax revenue that should come to the

                 state if these trees were legitimately

                 harvested and the taxes were paid at each step

                 of the way.

                            So I urge all of my colleagues to



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                 consider the interests of the landowners in

                 the upstate areas and recognize that several

                 of your colleagues who have made this a

                 concerted effort for several years realize

                 that this is a reasonable and a very

                 responsible and a long overdue measure.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator McGee.

                            SENATOR McGEE:    Mr. President, I

                 really rise to compliment and thank Senator

                 Little on bringing the bill to the floor, and

                 certainly thank Senator Bruno for realizing

                 the terrible issue there is on the logging

                 rules and regulations and laws that we have in

                 the State of New York which were so very, very

                 outmoded and certainly needed to be brought

                 up-to-date.

                            The bill is an excellent bill.  As

                 Senator Hoffmann indicated, there are some

                 things that were in the other bills that we

                 had done through the timber theft hearings.

                            But this is a good bill.  It

                 increases and updates the timber theft

                 penalty, which are horribly out of date.  It

                 focuses on stopping the repeat offenders who



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                 are running rampant over our innocent victims,

                 and educates our local law enforcement

                 officials and prosecutors on the seriousness

                 of the crime and gives them -- they will learn

                 ways to successfully catch and prosecute the

                 very few bad apples that we have that are out

                 there illegally logging.

                            Again, I say thank you very much,

                 Senator Hoffmann, for joining me in our timber

                 theft hearings.  And thank you very much to

                 Senator Little, who does represent a majority

                 of the Adirondack Park.  And certainly her

                 district suffers from a great deal of timber

                 theft.

                            And so I urge everyone to be very

                 considerate and understand the specific issues

                 that illegal logging does to the State of

                 New York.

                            Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Duane.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  If the sponsor would yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Little, do you yield?



                                                        4151



                            SENATOR LITTLE:    Yes, I will

                 yield.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    She

                 yields.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I'm wondering if the sponsor could

                 let me know what is different about the A and

                 B prints than the original bill.  I don't

                 think anyone has asked that question before.

                            SENATOR LITTLE:    One thing we

                 added was the educational piece to the bill.

                 And the forest land shall -- oh, this one.

                 Section 861 of the Real Property Actions and

                 Proceedings Law was repealed, and a new

                 Section 861 was added which called for action

                 for cutting, carrying off and despoiling trees

                 and timber and that kind of thing.

                            So instead of talking about general

                 municipalities, we talked about -- the general

                 municipality law, we specified the

                 municipalities.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    And through you,

                 Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue

                 to yield.



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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Yes, the sponsor, I believe, would continue to

                 yield.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you.  I

                 know that the Environmental Advocates were

                 concerned about the usurpation of local law.

                 But based on what's just been said, it sounds

                 like that issue has been dealt with.

                            SENATOR LITTLE:    Actually, it

                 does not do anything to deter a local

                 municipality from enacting an ordinance.  All

                 it says is that the landowner or the

                 municipality or DEC has a right to review.

                            And there really is no huge delay,

                 because they have 45 days from the time they

                 get the ordinance until they review it.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.

                            And just a word on the bill, if I

                 may.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Duane, on the bill.

                            SENATOR DUANE:    I just wanted to

                 mention that I feel that the issues raised

                 have been addressed.



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                            And the only other thing I think I

                 need to add is that an area where the

                 environmental activists and I split is that I

                 would very much like to see those black flies

                 obliterated.  Other than that, though, I think

                 that we're together on most issues.

                            SENATOR LITTLE:    There's a lot of

                 people in the Adirondacks who would like to

                 see the black flies obliterated as well.

                            I also would add that some of the

                 amendments for, you know, the change in the

                 bill was because this is the same as a bill by

                 Assemblyman Parment in the Assembly and has

                 been agreed upon.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    Any

                 other Senator wishing to be heard on this

                 bill?

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 15.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of March.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

                 the negative on Calendar Number 315 are



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                 Senators Andrews, Dilán, Hassell-Thompson, L.

                 Krueger, C. Kruger, LaValle, Montgomery,

                 Onorato, Oppenheimer, Parker, Paterson,

                 Sabini, Schneiderman, A. Smith, and Stavisky.

                 Also Senator Lachman.  Ayes, 44.  Nays, 16.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 bill is passed.

                            Senator Montgomery, why do you

                 rise?

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Mr.

                 President, I would like to request unanimous

                 consent to be recorded in the negative on

                 Calendar 212.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Without objection, so ordered.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Andrews.

                            SENATOR ANDREWS:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.  I'd like to be recorded in the

                 negative on Calendar 212, with unanimous

                 consent.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Without objection, so ordered.

                            Senator Kuhl.



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                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.  Can we return to the order of

                 reports of standing committees.

                            I understand that there's a report

                 of the Rules Committee at the desk.  I ask

                 that it be read.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    We

                 can return to the order of standing

                 committees.

                            And the Secretary will read the

                 report of the Rules Committee.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Senator Bruno,

                 from the Committee on Rules, reports the

                 following bills:

                            Senate Print 2452, by Senator

                 Onorato, an act to amend the Labor Law;

                            5001, by Senator Lachman, an act to

                 authorize;

                            5127, by Senator Kuhl, an act to

                 amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

                            5138, by Senator Johnson, an act to

                 amend the State Finance Law;

                            5145, by Senator Volker, an act to

                 amend the Criminal Procedure Law;

                            5165, by Senator Leibell, an act to



                                                        4156



                 amend the Public Authorities Law;

                            5174, by Senator DeFrancisco, an

                 act to amend the Estates, Powers and Trusts

                 Law;

                            5180, by Senator Velella, an act to

                 amend the Retirement and Social Security Law;

                            5181, by Senator Velella, an act to

                 amend the Civil Service Law;

                            5204, by Senator LaValle, an act to

                 amend the Executive Law;

                            5217, by Senator Little, an act to

                 authorize;

                            5249, by Senator Rath, an act to

                 amend the Family Court Act;

                            5303A, by Senator Hannon, an act to

                 amend the New York Health Care Reform Act of

                 2000;

                            5314, by Senator Volker, an act to

                 amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

                            5323A, by Senator Trunzo, an act to

                 amend the Real Property Tax Law;

                            5330, by Senator Alesi, an act to

                 amend the Executive Law;

                            5345, by Senator Johnson, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;



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                            5346B, by Senator Rath, an act

                 authorizing;

                            5368A, by Senator Johnson, an act

                 to amend the Environmental Conservation Law;

                            5370, by Senator Kuhl, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            5381, by Senator Johnson, an act to

                 amend the Environmental Conservation Law;

                            5386, by Senator LaValle, an act to

                 amend the Education Law;

                            5388, by Senator Morahan, an act to

                 amend the Penal Law;

                            5407, by Senator Volker, an act to

                 amend the Criminal Procedure Law;

                            5416, by Senator Skelos, an act to

                 amend Chapter 138 of the Laws of 1998;

                            5417, by Senator Maziarz, an act to

                 amend Chapter 352 of the Laws of 1999;

                            5419, by Senator Libous, an act to

                 amend the Tax Law;

                            5425, by Senator Golden, an act to

                 amend the Penal Law;

                            5442, by Senator Meier, an act to

                 amend the Social Services Law;

                            5448, by Senator Bonacic, an act to



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                 amend the Social Services Law;

                            5449, by Senator Bonacic, an act to

                 authorize;

                            5461, by Senator Robach, an act to

                 amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law;

                            5467, by the Senate Committee on

                 Rules, an act to amend the Administrative Code

                 of the City of New York;

                            5476, by Senator McGee, an act

                 authorizing;

                            5480, by Senator Morahan, an act to

                 amend Chapter 601 of the Laws of 1999;

                            5487, by Senator Leibell, an act to

                 amend the Eminent Domain Procedure Law;

                            5489, by Senator Morahan, an act to

                 amend Chapter 621 of the Laws of 1999;

                            5499, by Senator Volker, an act to

                 amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules;

                            And Senate Print 5585, by the

                 Senate Committee on Rules, an act to amend

                 Chapter 576 of the Laws of 1974.

                            All bills ordered direct to third

                 reading.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Kuhl.



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                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, can we now -- I make a motion to

                 accept the report of the Rules Committee.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    On

                 the motion to accept the report of the Rules

                 Committee, all those in favor signify by

                 saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 ayes have it.  The report is accepted.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, now can we go

                 to the regular calendar and call up Calendar

                 Number 1303.

                            It's not on today's active list,

                 but we'd like to take that up at this time.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 Secretary will read Calendar 1303.

                            I believe the bill has been placed

                 on everybody's desk.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1303, by Senator Bruno, Senate Print 4999, an



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                 act to amend the Penal Law and the Highway

                 Law, in relation to violence committed on

                 school grounds.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Explanation,

                 please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Volker, an explanation has been

                 requested.

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Mr. President,

                 I'm discussing this bill because Senator Bruno

                 is busy with negotiations with the Governor

                 and couldn't be here.

                            This bill is a bill that deals with

                 violence on school grounds and is named

                 Suzanne's Law after Suzanne Lyall, who was a

                 student at SUNY Albany and disappeared from

                 the campus five years ago, on March 2, 1998.

                            This bill has passed this house on

                 a number of occasions.  Basically it would

                 provide protection to schools by increasing

                 penalties for certain violent crimes that are

                 committed on school grounds.  For instance, if

                 the penalty for a crime were a Class E felony,

                 it would move it to a Class D, and a C felony

                 to a B.



                                                        4161



                            This is a bill that Senator Bruno

                 believes, and I believe, could have an impact

                 on anybody who would attempt to commit a crime

                 on any of the schools of this state, meaning

                 the buildings, playgrounds, athletic fields,

                 and so forth.

                            The people that are involved in

                 this bill for some time, Suzanne Lyall's

                 parents, Doug and Mary Lyall -- who, by the

                 way, are here in the gallery with us -- have

                 been pursuing this bill for many, many years

                 and in fact have pursued legislation in

                 Washington and recently was very successful in

                 passing a bill in Washington to further

                 protect children or young students at various

                 schools.

                            What this bill, as I say, would try

                 to do is to provide additional protection for

                 the vulnerable people who are at our schools

                 in this state.  And I think that when

                 Suzanne's Law, which unfortunately has not

                 passed the Assembly -- and we are very, very

                 hopeful by the way that this maybe the year

                 that this bill would pass.  And the Governor

                 and the Senate is trying very desperately to



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                 get this bill passed.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Montgomery.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, if Senator Volker could answer a

                 couple of questions.  I know that Senator

                 Bruno is not --

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    I certainly

                 will.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    I

                 believe the Senator yields.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Thank you.

                 I understand this is Senator Bruno's bill,

                 Senator.

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Yes.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    But I just

                 want to ask you, the legislation refers to

                 school grounds.  It was my understanding that

                 Suzanne Lyall was a college student.  Is that

                 correct?

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    That's right,

                 yes.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    All right,

                 thank you.

                            So the bill, then, that we have



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                 here, though it says in the name of Suzanne

                 Lyall, it's not really a Suzanne Lyall bill,

                 in that it refers to any school for any

                 child -- elementary, high school --

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Elementary,

                 secondary, college or university.  It also

                 refers, by the way, to daycare centers.  I

                 didn't mention that, but it -- or nursery

                 schools.  And any land within a thousand feet

                 of the school boundary line.

                            So it does pertain to the situation

                 involved with Suzanne Lyall.  But it also

                 pertains to any area where young people would

                 be involved.  And it would increase the

                 penalties for any serious crime.  And as you

                 know, there's a list of crimes in the bill

                 that are involved.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes.  And

                 through you, Mr. President, if Senator Volker

                 would continue to have a discussion.

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Certainly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 Senator yields.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Thank you.

                            I note that you're right, the bill



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                 refers to a long list of different crimes that

                 would be increased in penalty.

                            I'm just curious, it was my

                 understanding that Suzanne disappeared and she

                 has not been found to date.

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    That's true.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    So this bill

                 is not really related to that, but any other

                 thing that may happen on a campus.  And I

                 guess Suzanne was the impetus for it.  But

                 this does not really speak to what happened to

                 Suzanne Lyall.

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Well, it does.

                 The assumption is that she was kidnapped.

                 Although, obviously, we don't know exactly

                 what happened.  But we assume that she was

                 kidnapped.  So this would pertain to that.

                            Of course, it would also cover

                 federal -- potentially federal statutes and so

                 forth.  But you're right, it -- we don't know

                 absolutely for sure what happened.  But it

                 certainly would cover kidnapping.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    So the one

                 case, the one instance that I see in here

                 is -- speaks to unlawful imprisonment, which



                                                        4165



                 I'm assuming you are raising the penalty on

                 that from second to first and kidnapping from

                 third to second.

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Yeah.  Any of

                 the violent crimes would have the penalties

                 raised one degree.  Such as a C felony would

                 become a B felony, and so forth.

                            So what this bill would do is to

                 attempt to deal obviously not just a situation

                 such as Suzanne's case, but any similar case

                 that could occur on a school grounds or

                 college or university grounds.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Through you,

                 Mr. President, if I can continue my

                 questioning.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Will the sponsor yield?

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Sure.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    He

                 yields.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Thank you.

                 Thank you for that clarification, Senator

                 Volker.

                            So what we're talking about is a

                 bill that covers far more than whatever we



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                 dealt with with Suzanne.

                            But let me just ask also, does

                 this, in addition to including many, many

                 other types of activities, does it also

                 include anyone who sets foot on a campus, in a

                 high school -- so this doesn't just simply

                 pertain to students, does it not?  Or does it

                 pertain to any person who is -- comes within a

                 thousand feet of a school, that person is now

                 charged at a higher degree?

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Well, not the

                 person, it's the crime.  It is the crime.  If

                 a person is assaulted, for instance, on school

                 grounds, or anyone who is -- a violent crime

                 is committed against that person, the idea is

                 to set up what amounts to -- and a lot of

                 states, by the way, are doing this.  This is

                 nothing new across the country -- are

                 attempting to develop some sort of campus

                 security for various colleges, universities,

                 and schools.

                            The concept being to make sure that

                 people do not commit violent crimes,

                 obviously, on school property where young

                 people are involved.



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                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    So the way

                 that the bill is written, it seems that if

                 there is any incident that takes place within

                 a thousand feet, if I'm hearing you correctly,

                 no matter that it's related to a person at

                 school or that has anything to do with the

                 school, it's just two people.

                            Or if, as your bill says, if it's

                 upon a person less than 11 years old.  If it's

                 aggravated assault upon a police or peace

                 officer.  Any of these -- reckless assault of

                 a child by a daycare provider.

                            Anything that happens, whether it's

                 in any way related to the school, whether

                 either of the parties is related to the

                 school, this bill would cover them if they

                 stepped across the street, let's say, just for

                 instance, and that's a thousand feet.  If they

                 did this on the other side of the street, they

                 would be charged with a lesser crime.

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Let's understand

                 here, this is not an incident, this is a

                 violent crime that is specifically listed in

                 the Penal Law.  It doesn't mean an incident,

                 it means a violent crime.  Anybody who commits



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                 a violent crime obviously would be charged

                 severely.

                            What this is saying, however,

                 though, if you are committing that crime at or

                 near those school grounds, the crime could

                 potentially be raised by one degree.  Which is

                 an attempt to say to anybody who commits

                 violent crimes, obviously, they're going to

                 get arrested anyways, or they should be.  But

                 this says the crime would be even more severe

                 because of the location where it is.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    All right.

                 Thank you, Senator Volker.

                            Mr. President, on the bill briefly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Montgomery, on the bill.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.  The only basic comment that I have

                 on this legislation, besides the fact that

                 there are any number of crime charges here

                 that go far beyond what is referred to as the

                 Suzanne Lyall case -- we are obviously

                 extremely regretful about what has happened to

                 a young person who was at the prime of her

                 career, just at the beginning, really, of her



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                 career.

                            And in any instance when a young

                 person meets with an unfortunate situation,

                 such as Suzanne, we can only -- it can only

                 heighten our degree of anxiety and anguish and

                 anger.  But certainly I think that it does not

                 memorialize her fairly by labeling this type

                 of bill as a Suzanne's Law.

                            Because what it simply is is a

                 bill -- it is a sentencing law.  It just

                 simply seeks to increase the level of a charge

                 based on where you are standing.  It doesn't

                 even go as far as saying if this is a certain

                 group of people, if this is a certain category

                 of person.  It just says if you stand on this

                 side of the street as opposed to that side of

                 the street, you can be charged differently.

                            And I don't think that makes any

                 sense, none, in terms of law enforcement.  But

                 certainly I think it is unfair to say that

                 this is a Suzanne Lyall bill.  It does nothing

                 to speak to what happened to that young woman.

                            And I think that we should

                 certainly be looking to figure out ways in

                 which we can better protect youngsters --



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                 especially young college students, because

                 that's what Suzanne Lyall was -- but certainly

                 not to name a simple, straight-out, what I

                 consider to be not-well-thought-out sentencing

                 bill.

                            So I'm going to vote no on this.

                 It in no way reflects my support of what we

                 should be doing for Suzanne Lyall.  But I am

                 opposed to having an inconsistent,

                 not-well-thought-out sentencing bill, and

                 especially it should not be in the name of

                 Suzanne Lyall.  I'm voting no.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Volker.

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    If I might just

                 quickly respond.

                            And I understand what you're

                 saying, but Senator, let me just tell you, I

                 think it is appropriate for Suzanne Lyall.

                 And I think it's especially appropriate -- I

                 think what you're talking about is the issue

                 of whether a person committed a crime or not.

                 That's not the issue here.  The issue is

                 sentencing.

                            These are violent felons already.



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                 And I think it is fitting that a young person

                 should be named after a bill that deals with

                 attempting to protect school grounds and

                 grounds where young people particularly are

                 involved but not necessarily exclusively young

                 people.

                            It seems to me that the thing we

                 should be doing -- and I particularly want to

                 thank Suzanne's parents, Doug and Mary Lyall,

                 who have spent enormous amount of time in

                 attempting to deal with these kinds of issues,

                 particularly because of, obviously, the trauma

                 that they've been true through.

                            And I wanted to say Senator Bruno

                 wanted me to say to the both of you that he

                 particularly feels strongly about your attempt

                 to deal with the Washington situation, and we

                 are most happy that you chose to come here

                 today to listen to this debate.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    Any

                 other Senator wishing to be heard on this

                 bill?

                            Senator Diaz.

                            SENATOR DIAZ:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  Will the sponsor yield, please?



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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Volker, will you yield to a question?

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Yes.  Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    He

                 yields, Senator.

                            SENATOR DIAZ:    For my own

                 understanding, for my own conscience -- just

                 maybe you already answered the question, but I

                 would like to be clear on it.

                            When the bill says "sentence of

                 imprisonment for a crime committed against a

                 person on school grounds" --

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Yes, that's

                 true.

                            SENATOR DIAZ:    -- Senator, that

                 means a teacher committing a crime against a

                 student?

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    A violent crime.

                 Only violent crimes that are listed in the

                 Penal Law.  Not just any ordinary crimes.

                            This is anyone who would commit a

                 violent crime which is listed in the Penal Law

                 specifically, that the penalty for that crime

                 would be increased by one degree.

                            SENATOR DIAZ:    Mr. President,



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                 would the sponsor continue yielding, please.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Volker, will you continue to yield?

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    Yes.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    He

                 yields, Senator.

                            SENATOR DIAZ:    That also means a

                 student against a student?

                            SENATOR VOLKER:    A violent crime

                 by a student against a student?  The answer is

                 yes.  Subject, of course, to the rules as far

                 as age which we already have.

                            SENATOR DIAZ:    Thank you,

                 Senator, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    Any

                 other Senator wishing to be heard?

                            Senator Connor.

                            SENATOR CONNOR:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I expect I'll vote for this, but I

                 don't do it with any great degree of

                 enthusiasm because --

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Connor, are you speaking on the bill?

                            SENATOR CONNOR:    Yes, on the



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                 bill.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Connor, on the bill.

                            SENATOR CONNOR:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.

                            I expect I'll vote for this, but I

                 really don't have a lot of enthusiasm for

                 these kinds of bills.  I've said it many, many

                 times over the years.

                            It was quite fashionable ten or

                 fifteen years ago to increase penalties for

                 crimes committed against specific categories

                 of people.  Senior citizens, whatever.  But

                 various types of public servants.

                            And frankly, when you deal with

                 public servants, there's probably a little

                 more rationale for government to exact

                 stronger penalties because those public

                 servants, be they firefighters, police

                 officers, or whatever, there's a -- when a

                 crime is committed against them, a crime of

                 violence, there's also a further, if you will,

                 insult to government.

                            But that said, I think we owe

                 protection to all of our citizens.  And now we



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                 get into crimes committed in particular

                 places -- churches, schools.  I know we've had

                 bills in cemeteries, other things, over the

                 years.

                            And, you know, I don't know if it

                 matters much to the victim whether they are

                 violently assaulted on school grounds or

                 school property or two blocks way.  And I

                 don't really -- and with all -- I certainly

                 sympathize with the Lyalls, I sympathize with

                 all victims of crimes.  And you do look for a

                 safe haven on a college campus.  People do

                 look for safe havens in various places.

                            But I think we go far astray when

                 we start to base the punishment on where the

                 crime happened, the age or status of the

                 victim when there's nothing else involved.

                            Hate crimes?  That was different.

                 That was about motive.  That was about the

                 intent of the person who committed the crime.

                            But in this case, I'm not sure that

                 the kind of predators it's designed to enhance

                 punishment for really care whether their

                 victim is on school grounds or elsewhere.  I

                 suspect very much that these are crimes of



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                 opportunity for the perpetrators.

                            I'd frankly be much more inclined

                 to support an enhancement of penalties for all

                 violent crimes, wherever committed, than to

                 just single out a particular area.

                            So, Mr. President, as I speak, I

                 think I'm talking myself into voting no.  And

                 I think I will vote no, because I stood here

                 many years ago and voted no to enhanced

                 penalties for crimes against seniors.  Not a

                 great political move, but one I believed in

                 because I do believe in this principle.

                            I think all of our citizens, no

                 matter what their age, no matter whether they

                 be students or public employees or just

                 citizens walking down the street, deserve the

                 same level of protection and the same level of

                 deterrence against those who would inflict

                 violent crimes upon them.

                            And therefore, I think -- and I

                 understand what motivates this bill.  I

                 understand the desire to do something.  But I

                 think if we want to do something, let's

                 consider enhancing all the penalties for the

                 same category of crime no matter who it's



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                 inflicted upon.

                            Thank you, Mr. President.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    Any

                 other Senator wishing to be heard?

                            Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

                 act shall take effect on the first of

                 September.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

                 the negative on Calendar Number 1303 are

                 Senators Connor, Montgomery, and Parker.

                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 3.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 bill is passed.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Mr.

                 President.  Would you call up, now, Calendar

                 1345.

                            The bill has been distributed; it's

                 on the members' desks.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 Secretary will read Calendar Number 1345.



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                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 1345, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

                 Print Number 5585, an act to amend Chapter 576

                 of the Laws of 1974.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Is there a message

                 of necessity at the desk?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Yes, there is, Senator.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Move we accept the

                 message.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 motion is to accept the message of necessity.

                 All in favor signify by saying aye.

                            (Response of "Aye.")

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Opposed, nay.

                            (No response.)

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 message is accepted.

                            Senator Krueger.

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

                            I believe I have an amendment at

                 the desk.  I move to waive its reading and ask



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                 to be heard on the amendment.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Just a second, Senator.

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Certainly.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    We

                 have your amendment, Senator.  The reading is

                 waived, and you're free to speak on it.

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

                            As I said here last Thursday when

                 we did a one-day extension, it's a completely

                 unacceptable option while 2 million of

                 New Yorkers are waiting to see what we do on

                 rent regulation and its continuation.

                            I am offering an amendment today

                 that would in fact provide us a same-as bill

                 in the Senate with the bill that was passed by

                 the Assembly in February.  And, in fact, my

                 amendment is identical in language to Senator

                 Padavan's Senate Bill 2954.

                            This amendment would renew rent

                 control and rent stabilization laws through

                 June 15, 2008, to provide tenant protections

                 and condo coop conversion protection laws that

                 are set to expire today.  It would repeal

                 vacancy decontrol provisions that allow



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                 permanent decontrol of regulated apartments

                 when they reach a monthly rent of $2,000.

                            It would amend and expand rent

                 stabilization coverage to post-1973

                 Mitchell-Lama rental buildings and

                 project-based Section 8 buildings whose

                 landlords take them out state and federal

                 subsidy programs.

                            And it would amend or plug

                 owner-use eviction loopholes that now allow

                 landlords to empty entire buildings of

                 regulated apartments based on the claim, often

                 fraudulent, that they want the unit for

                 themselves or a family member.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    All

                 those in favor of the amendment please signify

                 by raising their hands.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

                 agreement are Senators Andrews, Brown, Connor,

                 Diaz, Duane, Gonzalez, Hassell-Thompson, L.

                 Krueger, C. Kruger, Lachman, Montgomery,

                 Onorato, Oppenheimer, Parker, Paterson,

                 Sabini, Schneiderman, A. Smith, M. Smith,

                 Stachowski, and Stavisky.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The



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                 amendment is lost.

                            Senator Krueger.

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    I believe

                 there's a second amendment on this bill at the

                 desk.

                            I move to waive its reading and ask

                 to be heard on that amendment.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    We

                 have that amendment.  And the reading is

                 waived, you're free to speak.

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

                            Having suspected we would lose on

                 the first amendment --

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Wise.

                            SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    -- we've

                 also prepared a second amendment with language

                 that is identical to another bill by Senator

                 Padavan, S3123.

                            This amendment will remove the

                 provision that prohibits cities of 1 million

                 or more from strengthening rent regulation

                 laws to provide more comprehensive coverage

                 than that provided by state laws, commonly

                 known as the Urstadt Law.



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                            Currently, as a provision of the

                 Local Emergency Housing Rent Control Act,

                 municipalities cannot strengthen the laws to

                 provide more comprehensive coverage than that

                 allowed in our state statute.  This bill would

                 remove the provision prohibiting cities of

                 1 million or more from strengthening their

                 tenant protection laws to provide more

                 comprehensive coverage than allowed by state

                 statute.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Will all those Senators in favor of the

                 amendment please signify by raising their

                 hands.

                            Let the record note Senator

                 Oppenheimer is raising two hands.

                            (Laughter.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

                 agreement are Senators Andrews, Brown, Connor,

                 Diaz, Duane, Gonzalez, Hassell-Thompson, L.

                 Krueger, C. Kruger, Lachman, Montgomery,

                 Onorato, Oppenheimer, Parker, Paterson,

                 Sabini, Schneiderman, A. Smith, M. Smith,

                 Stachowski, and Stavisky.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The



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                 amendment is lost.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Last section.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Read the last section.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Section 7.  This

                 act shall take effect immediately.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Call the roll.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

                 2.  Senators Duane and L. Krueger recorded in

                 the negative.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 bill is passed.

                            Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, may we return to the order of

                 motions and resolutions.  I have some

                 housekeeping.

                            On behalf of Senator Flanagan, on

                 page 45, I offer the following amendments to

                 Calendar Number 1047, Senate Print 2057, and

                 ask that it retain its place on the Third

                 Reading Calendar.

                            On behalf of Senator McGee --



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                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    On behalf of

                 Senator McGee, Mr. President, I offer the

                 following amendments to Calendar Number 1340,

                 Senate Print 5476, and ask that that bill

                 retain its place on the Third Reading

                 Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Also, Mr.

                 President, on page 44 I offer the following

                 amendments to Calendar Number 1015, Senate

                 Print 4975, and ask that said bill retain its

                 place on the Third Reading Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    On behalf of

                 Senator Balboni, Mr. President, on page 43 I

                 offer the following amendments to Calendar

                 Number 999, Senate Print 4747A, and ask that

                 said bill retain its place on the Third

                 Reading Calendar.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted.



                                                        4185



                            SENATOR KUHL:    Then, on behalf of

                 Senator Seward, Mr. President, I wish to call

                 up his bill, Senate Print 4454A, recalled from

                 the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 784, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 4454A, an

                 act to amend the Insurance Law.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Mr. President, I

                 move to reconsider the vote by which the bill

                 passed the house.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Call the roll on reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    I offer up the

                 following amendments.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 amendments are accepted.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    On behalf of

                 Senator Fuschillo, Mr. President, I wish to

                 call up his bill, Senate Print 3294A, recalled

                 from the Assembly, which is at the desk.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The



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                 Secretary will read.

                            THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

                 808, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 3294A,

                 an act to amend the General Business Law.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Mr. President, I

                 now move to reconsider the vote by which the

                 passed the house.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Call the roll on reconsideration.

                            (The Secretary called the roll.)

                            THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    I offer up the

                 following amendments.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 amendments are received and adopted.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Would you

                 recognize Senator Hassell-Thompson, who I

                 believe has a vote to change.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Hassell-Thompson.

                            SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:    Thank

                 you, Mr. President.

                            I rise to request unanimous consent

                 to be recorded in the negative on Calendar

                 Number 212.



                                                        4187



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    So

                 ordered.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Mr. President,

                 would you please recognize Senator Ada Smith.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Smith.

                            SENATOR ADA SMITH:    Mr.

                 President, I request unanimous consent to be

                 recorded in the negative on Calendar Number

                 212, Bill Number 345A.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    No objection.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    So

                 ordered.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Would you

                 recognize Senator Connor.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Connor.

                            SENATOR CONNOR:    Thank you, Mr.

                 President.  May I have unanimous consent to be

                 recorded in the negative on Calendar Number

                 212, passed earlier today.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    So

                 ordered.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Would you

                 recognize Senator Montgomery.



                                                        4188



                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Montgomery.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Mr.

                 President, I would like unanimous consent to

                 be recorded in the negative on Calendar 1253.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    So

                 ordered, Senator.

                            SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Thank you.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Kuhl.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Please recognize

                 Senator Stachowski.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:

                 Senator Stachowski.

                            SENATOR STACHOWSKI:    Mr.

                 President, may I have unanimous consent to be

                 recorded in the negative on Calendar 315.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    No objection.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    So

                 ordered.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    Any other

                 Senators?

                            Any other housekeeping at the desk,

                 Mr. President?

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    No,



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                 the house is clean, Senator.

                            SENATOR KUHL:    There being no

                 further business to come before the Senate

                 today, I move we stand adjourned until

                 tomorrow, Tuesday, June 17th, at 3:00 p.m.

                            ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    The

                 Senate will stand adjourned until tomorrow,

                 Tuesday, at 3:00 p.m.

                            (Whereupon, at 5:44 p.m., the

                 Senate adjourned.)