Regular Session - March 29, 2006

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         1                 NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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         4                THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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         9                   ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                    March 29, 2006

        11                      12:19 p.m.

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        14                    REGULAR SESSION

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        18  LT. GOVERNOR MARY O. DONOHUE, President

        19  STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

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         1                 P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Senate will

         3       please come to order.

         4                  I ask everyone present to please

         5       rise and repeat with me the Pledge of

         6       Allegiance.

         7                  (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

         8       the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    In the absence of

        10       clergy, may we bow our heads in a moment of

        11       silence, please.

        12                  (Whereupon, the assemblage

        13       respected a moment of silence.)

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Reading of the

        15       Journal.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

        17       Tuesday, March 28, the Senate met pursuant to

        18       adjournment.  The Journal of Monday, March 27,

        19       was read and approved.  On motion, Senate

        20       adjourned.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Without

        22       objection, the Journal stands approved as

        23       read.

        24                  Presentation of petitions.

        25                  Messages from the Assembly.


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         1                  Messages from the Governor.

         2                  Reports of standing committees.

         3                  Reports of select committees.

         4                  Communications and reports from

         5       state officers.

         6                  Motions and resolutions.

         7                  Senator Skelos.

         8                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

         9       there are three resolutions at the desk --

        10       4308, 4309, and 4310 -- by Senator Saland.

        11       Could we have the titles read and move for

        12       their immediate adoption, please.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        14       will read.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

        16       Saland, Legislative Resolution Number 4308,

        17       honoring Karen T. Hansen upon the occasion of

        18       her designation for special recognition by the

        19       Dutchess-Ulster Division of the American Heart

        20       Association.

        21                  By Senator Saland, Legislative

        22       Resolution Number 4309, honoring Lewis C.

        23       Kirschner upon the occasion of his designation

        24       for special recognition by the Dutchess-Ulster

        25       Division of the American Heart Association.


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         1                  And by Senator Saland, Legislative

         2       Resolution Number 4310, commending outgoing

         3       president Eugene Browning upon the occasion of

         4       his designation for special recognition after

         5       many years of dedicated service to the

         6       Columbia County Volunteer Firefighters

         7       Association.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    All in favor of

         9       the resolutions please signify by saying aye.

        10                  (Response of "Aye.")

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

        12                  (No response.)

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    The resolutions

        14       are all adopted.

        15                  Senator Skelos.

        16                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

        17       if we could go to the noncontroversial reading

        18       of the calendar.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        20       will read.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        22       536, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 2313, an

        23       act to amend General Municipal Law, in

        24       relation to allowing school districts.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last


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         1       section.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         3       act shall take effect immediately.

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         5                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 52.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         8       passed.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        10       538, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 3691, an

        11       act to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in

        12       relation to small claims.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        14       section.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        16       act shall take effect immediately.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        18                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 52.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        21       passed.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        23       540, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 4140, an

        24       act authorizing the assessor of the Town of

        25       Islip to accept an application.


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         1                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         2       section.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         4       act shall take effect immediately.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 52.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         9       passed.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        11       551, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 4333B,

        12       an act to amend the Education Law, in relation

        13       to establishing.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        15       section.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        19                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        22       passed.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        24       566, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 3908, an

        25       act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law, in


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         1       relation to disclosure.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         3       section.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         7                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        10       passed.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        12       567, by Senator Volker --

        13                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Lay it aside

        14       temporarily.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

        16       aside temporarily.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        18       604, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print 5281, an

        19       act to amend the Public Authorities Law, in

        20       relation to expanding.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        22       section.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        24       act shall take effect immediately.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.


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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         4       passed.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       606, by Senator Meier, Senate Print 5738, an

         7       act to amend the Public Authorities Law, in

         8       relation to authorizing the Town of Annsville,

         9       County of Oneida.

        10                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        11       section.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        13       act shall take effect immediately.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        15                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        18       passed.

        19                  Senator Skelos, that completes the

        20       reading of the noncontroversial calendar.

        21                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Well, we have

        22       one more bill that we will be taking up

        23       noncontroversial when Senator Montgomery, I

        24       believe, arrives.

        25                  So if we could just stand at ease


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         1       temporarily.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Senate stands

         3       at ease.

         4                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

         5       actually, if I could call the meeting of the

         6       Finance Committee in the Majority Conference

         7       Room.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    There will be an

         9       immediate meeting of the Finance Committee in

        10       the Majority Conference Room.

        11                  The Senate stands at ease.

        12                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        13       ease at 12:25 p.m.)

        14                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        15       at 12:43 p.m.)

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        17       Senator Skelos.

        18                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        19       would you please, on the noncontroversial

        20       calendar, call up Calendar Number 567, by

        21       Senator Volker.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        23       Secretary will read.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        25       567, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 3909, an


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         1       act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Read

         3       the last section.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

         7       the roll.

         8                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.  Nays,

        10       2.  Senators Duane and Montgomery recorded in

        11       the negative.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        13       bill is passed.

        14                  That completes the reading of the

        15       calendar, Senator Skelos.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        17       Calendar Number 567, also Senator Andrews and

        18       Senator Parker in the negative.  Ayes, 56.

        19       Nays, 4.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        21       bill is passed.

        22                  Senator Skelos, that completes the

        23       reading of the calendar.

        24                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Thank you, Mr.

        25       President.


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         1                  If we could return to reports of

         2       standing committees, I believe there's a

         3       report of the Finance Committee at the desk.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         5       Secretary will read.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator Johnson,

         7       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

         8       following nominations.

         9                  As a member and chairman of the

        10       Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority,

        11       Gregory Stamm, Esquire, of Williamsville.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        13       Senator Coppola.

        14                  SENATOR COPPOLA:    Thank you, Mr.

        15       President.

        16                  I rise in support of Mr. Stamm's

        17       nomination to the NFTA.  The NFTA has a

        18       tremendous amount of operations within my

        19       district, specifically in the city of Buffalo.

        20       And I support his nomination because over the

        21       past couple of weeks we've had a lot of

        22       conversations with regard to issues relating

        23       to the NFTA and the city of Buffalo and some

        24       of the ongoings there that have caused major

        25       frustration within the city of Buffalo in


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         1       their relations with the NFTA.

         2                  He is very open to some issues that

         3       I've talked to him about, possibly some

         4       changes in the way that they operate and

         5       dispose of real property.

         6                  So I would like to have my comments

         7       reflect my support of Mr. Stamm and his new

         8       leadership in the NFTA, and I hope he brings

         9       it far into the future with regard to a public

        10       authority having more dialogue and having the

        11       public's interest at heart when it comes to

        12       their operations not only within the city of

        13       Buffalo but in Western New York.

        14                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

        16       you, Senator.

        17                  Senator Volker.

        18                  SENATOR VOLKER:    Just quickly.

        19       Greg's not here, but I do want to say that

        20       he's a close personal friend.  He is the

        21       counsel right now to the Erie County Control

        22       Board.  Obviously he's going to have to give

        23       that up.

        24                  But he's a great gentleman, a great

        25       lawyer, a good friend.  Well, he doesn't live


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         1       in my district, he lives in Mary Lou Rath's

         2       district.  But he, I believe, will be the best

         3       chairman of the NFTA that we've had.

         4                  And it's good because we have a

         5       problem in Erie County with law enforcement,

         6       with the tremendous decline in the number of

         7       police officers.  And people forget that the

         8       NFTA is the operation that runs our homeland

         9       security mechanism.

        10                  And I'm sure Greg Stamm will do a

        11       fine job.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

        13       you, Senator.

        14                  Senator Stachowski.

        15                  SENATOR STACHOWSKI:    Mr.

        16       President, I too rise to second the nomination

        17       of Mr. Stamm.

        18                  I happen to know Mr. Stamm since my

        19       days in the county legislature.  And he's had

        20       a great deal of government experience in

        21       different capacities.  And I think he'll bring

        22       that experience plus the knowledge of how,

        23       when we deal with him, he understands what our

        24       position is, that he will be more open and at

        25       least responsive.  Whether it's a yes or a no


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         1       to the question you ask, at least he'll get

         2       back to you.  Which is going to be a great

         3       change from some of the people that have been

         4       in the NFTA in the past.

         5                  So I think it's a great nomination.

         6       He'll do a great job.  And I'm glad to second

         7       the nomination of my friend Greg Stamm.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

         9       you, Senator.

        10                  Senator Rath.

        11                  SENATOR RATH:    Yes, Mr.

        12       President, it gives me great pleasure to stand

        13       up and second the nomination of one of my

        14       constituents, Mr. Greg Stamm, who I have known

        15       and worked with for almost 30 years in various

        16       capacities.

        17                  Greg has had a long and

        18       distinguished career as an attorney.  But more

        19       than that, he has had a long and distinguished

        20       career as a civic and community volunteer and

        21       activist.

        22                  So to have him as the chairman of

        23       the NFTA, at the time when the city of Buffalo

        24       and the community throughout Western New York

        25       is going to have dramatic changes in relation


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         1       to the waterfront areas, which are presently

         2       owned by the Niagara Frontier Transportation

         3       Authority, about to change into different

         4       ownership, with a rebirth of the Western

         5       New York waterfront that will be second to

         6       nothing, anything that's happened in the last

         7       75 to 100 years along that waterfront -- and

         8       to have him there directing and overseeing and

         9       participating in working that through, it's

        10       thrilling for me and I think it's an insurance

        11       for all of us that we will have someone who is

        12       deeply interested in and committed to our

        13       community and to the furtherance of the

        14       activities along the waterfront as well as the

        15       transportation issues.

        16                  Which, by the way, a secondary

        17       issue relating to air transit.  As we know,

        18       the base in Niagara Falls was saved from

        19       closing last year, and it's one of the longest

        20       runways in the East.  And it's also operated

        21       by the Niagara Frontier Transportation

        22       Authority, in conjunction with the military.

        23       And that will also open up new avenues for

        24       increased economic development activity

        25       throughout Western New York.


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         1                  And to have Greg Stamm there in the

         2       lead on all of these activities I think is

         3       something we will all be proud of.

         4                  Thank you.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

         6       you, Senator.

         7                  Senator Maziarz.

         8                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Thank you very

         9       much, Mr. President.  I guess I'm batting

        10       cleanup here today for Greg Stamm.

        11                  But I want to join in seconding

        12       this nomination.  This is an excellent

        13       appointment by Governor Pataki.  Greg Stamm,

        14       I've known him for many, many years.  Active

        15       in the Western New York community.

        16                  But he really understands, I think,

        17       the unique opportunity that the Niagara

        18       Frontier Transportation Authority faces right

        19       now with the Buffalo waterfront.

        20                  And I think Senator Rath mentioned

        21       the Niagara Falls Airport, the development

        22       around the airport, with all of the available

        23       vacant property around that airport, with the

        24       runway, with the military base now being

        25       secured for a long time into the future, the


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         1       real opportunity for job creation, for

         2       economic development exists in all of Western

         3       New York at the Niagara Falls Airport.

         4                  Greg Stamm understands that, we've

         5       had many conversations, and he plans on going

         6       forward with the program for improvement at

         7       Niagara Falls.  I wholeheartedly second and

         8       support this nomination.

         9                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

        11       you, Senator.

        12                  The Secretary will continue to

        13       read.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

        15       the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey,

        16       Henry R. Silverman, of New York City.

        17                  As a member of the

        18       Rochester-Genesee Regional Transportation

        19       Authority, Edward W. White, Esquire, of

        20       Waterloo.

        21                  And as a member of the Board of

        22       Visitors of the New York State Home for

        23       Veterans and Their Dependents at Batavia, Joan

        24       F. Staats, of Stafford.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:


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         1       Senator Johnson.

         2                  SENATOR JOHNSON:    Move the

         3       nominations.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Move

         5       that the nominations be moved.  All in favor

         6       of the nominations say aye.

         7                  (Response of "Aye.")

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Nay?

         9                  (No response.)

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        11       nominations are confirmed.

        12                  The Secretary will read the report

        13       of the Finance Committee.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator Johnson,

        15       from the Committee on Finance, restores the

        16       following bills to the calendar:

        17                  Senate Print 6450C, Budget Bill, an

        18       act making appropriations for the support of

        19       government:  Public Protection and General

        20       Government Budget;

        21                  6451A, Senate Budget Bill, an act

        22       making appropriations for the support of

        23       government:  Legislative and Judiciary Budget;

        24                  6453C, Budget Bill, an act making

        25       appropriations for the support of government:


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         1       Education, Labor and Family Assistance Budget;

         2                  6454C, Budget Bill, an act making

         3       appropriations for the support of government:

         4       Health and Mental Hygiene Budget;

         5                  6455C, Senate Budget Bill, an act

         6       making appropriations for the support of

         7       government:  Transportation, Economic

         8       Development and Environmental Conservation

         9       Budget;

        10                  6456C, Budget Bill, an act to amend

        11       the State Finance Law;

        12                  6457C, Budget Bill, an act to amend

        13       the Social Services Law and others;

        14                  6458C, Budget Bill, an act to amend

        15       the Education Law;

        16                  6459C, Budget Bill, an act to amend

        17       the Environmental Conservation Law;

        18                  6460C, Budget Bill, an act to amend

        19       the Tax Law.

        20                  And Senator Johnson, from the

        21       Committee on Finance, reports the following

        22       bill to the calendar:

        23                  Senate Print 7166, by the Senate

        24       Committee on Rules, an act in relation to

        25       providing for the administration of certain


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         1       funds and accounts.

         2                  All bills ordered direct to third

         3       reading.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         5       Without objection, all bills are reported to

         6       third reading.

         7                  Senator Bonacic.

         8                  SENATOR BONACIC:    Thank you, Mr.

         9       President.

        10                  Previously I was out of the

        11       chambers at a committee meeting, and I would

        12       like the record to reflect that on Calendar

        13       Number 540, Senate Bill 4140, I would like to

        14       have been recorded in the negative.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        16       record will so reflect.

        17                  SENATOR BONACIC:    Thank you.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        19       Senator Bruno.

        20                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President and

        21       colleagues, we are going to take up, very,

        22       very shortly, what will be the first bill of

        23       the budget for this session going into '07.

        24                  The fact that we are going to start

        25       this process now, we should be able to


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         1       conclude it, with all the bills properly aged,

         2       by this Friday, the 31st.  Which will be the

         3       second year in a row that we have done an

         4       on-time budget.

         5                  But more important than an on-time

         6       budget is a sound budget on behalf of all of

         7       the people of this state.  And this is a sound

         8       budget.  Depending on how you count, it's

         9       $112.4 billion, half a billion either way.

        10       Probably our way.

        11                  But in it what is critically

        12       important is that there are approaching

        13       $2 billion in property tax rebates, property

        14       tax cuts.  And we all have acknowledged, all

        15       of us, in both houses and in the executive

        16       branch, that the people in New York State are

        17       overtaxed, overburdened and need relief.  So

        18       that is number one.

        19                  And this package in tax cuts that's

        20       in this budget when it's finalized is about

        21       $4.1 billion.  And you think about it.  In all

        22       aspects of affecting people's lives, with

        23       rebates on property, small business tax cuts

        24       to create jobs, retain jobs here in this

        25       state.


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         1                  Child tax credit, children 4 to 17.

         2       Parents, refund checks up to $330 per child.

         3       The sales tax on clothing $110 and under.

         4       That starts because we did not take any action

         5       again April 1st.  And that is estimated to be

         6       worth to the taxpayers of this state over

         7       $600 million.  Child tax credit, $600 million.

         8                  So we have done a lot of good

         9       things.  We have a surplus, thanks to the good

        10       management of both houses and the Executive.

        11       And at the same time that we do this, we're

        12       setting a record on school aid, a

        13       billion-three, approaching, in the operating

        14       and categorical.  And depending on where you

        15       are in the city, pushing $9.4 billion in

        16       construction availability.

        17                  A lot of good things.  Nursing

        18       homes, restorations to hospitals to provide

        19       the quality of care.  Bottom line, we've done

        20       it.  And we got there.

        21                  Now, how did we do it?  You have

        22       to, in this state, do it by negotiating.  And

        23       to everyone's credit, there was an intense,

        24       intensive negotiation, both houses --

        25       Assembly, Senate -- both sides of the aisle in


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         1       both houses.

         2                  And I appreciate, Senator Paterson,

         3       your participation in the general conference

         4       committee with the other members here, being

         5       representative of not just your constituency,

         6       in terms of where you get elected, but the

         7       entire constituency of this state that you

         8       affect.

         9                  And Senator Paterson made a great

        10       contribution many times by being silent at the

        11       right time.  And I want you to know that I

        12       recognize that and appreciate that.  Because

        13       you know in this business, what's the hardest

        14       thing to do?  To be silent.  Because all of us

        15       have so many things to say, and we feel that

        16       the whole world is waiting with bated breath

        17       to hear every word.  Well, got news for you.

        18       It's not always the case.

        19                  Recognizing that, I'm going to sit

        20       down.

        21                  (Laughter.)

        22                  SENATOR BRUNO:    So I want to

        23       thank Senator Skelos and Senator Spano,

        24       Senator Johnson, who served with us on the

        25       general committee, for their good work, being


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         1       here through the weekend and doing just the

         2       kinds of things that were critically

         3       important.

         4                  Every member in the Legislature can

         5       be proud of their participation in this open,

         6       public process, which is different than it's

         7       ever been in the history of this state.

         8                  So we can be proud, every single

         9       member can be proud.  The staff support we

        10       had.  The budget director, Mary Louise

        11       Mallick, and Ken Riddett, handling the

        12       counsel's work, got us in print by midnight

        13       last night, which was a critical moment.

        14                  And having been in print with the

        15       final versions of the education package and

        16       the other things allows us to conclude Friday.

        17       And I hope that all of you will, sometime

        18       while the sun shines on Friday, be ready to

        19       conclude the process and go on our way to meet

        20       our constituency with all the good news that

        21       is there in this budget.

        22                  So thank you.  Thanks for your

        23       support, everybody in this chamber.  And I

        24       wanted to commend the Speaker for his hard

        25       work and diligence, and his conference and the


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         1       conference of Assemblyman Tedisco.  And the

         2       Executive, who has participated in this

         3       process by giving us a budget on time,

         4       January 17th.

         5                  And the rest of the process is that

         6       we relate, we've been communicating.  And over

         7       these next 10 to 12 days, there will be

         8       further negotiations on some parts of what we

         9       are going to tend to that are off-budget of

        10       necessity.

        11                  So thank you, Mr. President, and

        12       thank you, colleagues, for a job well done.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        14       Senator Paterson.

        15                  SENATOR PATERSON:    Thank you, Mr.

        16       President.

        17                  I'm thinking of a condition I heard

        18       once that it is often better to be silent and

        19       be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and

        20       remove all doubt.

        21                  (Laughter.)

        22                  SENATOR PATERSON:    But

        23       contravening that, I'll just try to thank all

        24       of our colleagues who served on the various

        25       conference committees and fed their findings


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         1       to the general conference committee, where we

         2       tried to consider them.

         3                  And we have returned $805 million

         4       this year in property taxes that will be of

         5       great resource to many of our citizens

         6       upstate, $921 million next year.  And as

         7       Senator Bruno pointed out, over the two years

         8       from now, we will save $4.1 billion in taxes.

         9                  What was interesting is that the

        10       process was more open than it ever was.  The

        11       discussion about the sales tax and its sunset,

        12       and that we felt it should stay that way,

        13       saving $585 million for people who purchase

        14       clothing items of $110 or less was actually

        15       discussed openly and unrehearsed by Senator

        16       Bruno and myself yesterday in the general

        17       conference committee.  And we were able to

        18       come to an accord that I think will benefit

        19       people all around the state.

        20                  And so the compliment goes both

        21       ways, that this was an issue that meant a lot

        22       to us, one that the Senate Democratic

        23       conference has fought for for a long period of

        24       time, and Senator Bruno led the way among

        25       those who heard it.  And we tried to do the


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         1       same for those who may not live in the

         2       geographic perimeters of our district, but are

         3       our neighbors, as we are one state and the

         4       residents of one state.

         5                  We in this conference would like to

         6       advocate that the process in the future even

         7       be more open than it is.  And that we'd like

         8       to thank the members of this conference,

         9       particularly the new members of this

        10       conference, like Senator Valesky and Senator

        11       Serrano and Senator Savino and Senator Klein,

        12       who came to this house based on their advocacy

        13       for reform and changing a lot of the rules

        14       around here.  And in their first term, we have

        15       passed two budgets on time -- and, as Senator

        16       Bruno pointed out, not only on time, but with

        17       some comprehensive change in state policy that

        18       we hope will inure to the benefit of people.

        19                  In New York City education, as

        20       Senator Bruno pointed out, we have what is

        21       really a $9.4 billion availability for

        22       construction for schools and a $4.7 billion

        23       award for capital funding, so that --

        24       actually, a $1.8 billion award for capital

        25       funding.  And so after you factor in the


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         1       50 percent return to the city based on the new

         2       amounts, it should meet the court requirements

         3       of $6.5 billion in capital.

         4                  We are frankly disappointed -- but

         5       in all negotiations parties are disappointed.

         6       But nonetheless, there's a court decision

         7       mandating that $4.7 billion to $5.6 billion be

         8       brought in school aid for areas that have

         9       previously been disenfranchised by actions

        10       taken by the state in negotiating a school

        11       formula that was not constitutional.  There

        12       have been three court rulings on that point

        13       already.  And it doesn't just involve New York

        14       City, it involves a lot of high-needs areas in

        15       the rural parts of New York State and in

        16       minority communities in Suffolk, Nassau,

        17       Syracuse, and Buffalo and other parts of Erie

        18       County.

        19                  And we have got to recognize that

        20       just because we have economic problems does

        21       not alleviate us of our compliance with a

        22       court decision upheld three times in the last

        23       five years.  And I'm hoping that in the months

        24       ahead that we'll all work together, just as we

        25       have on this budget, to be in compliance with


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         1       that court decision and to make sure that one

         2       branch of our government is not ignored by

         3       another.

         4                  We also would like to hope that

         5       there is still more that we can do for

         6       Medicaid costs all around this state and that

         7       would also compel us to reduce property taxes

         8       in other areas.  So as would be the most

         9       hopeful result of a budget negotiation, that

        10       there are some areas that we addressed and

        11       there are some areas that we still have yet to

        12       address.

        13                  We have to remember that the budget

        14       increased at a larger amount than did the cost

        15       of living at that particular time, and that

        16       gets us into problems with debt.  And that we

        17       still have increased the debt in this last

        18       budget over the $48 billion of debt and

        19       $80 billion in ancillary debt that we have in

        20       the agencies of this state.

        21                  There's obviously a greater

        22       comprehension that we are going to have to pay

        23       to how we spend money when we're spending

        24       $5 billion a year just to pay back the debt

        25       that we've accrued in the past.  We do not


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         1       want to sentence not only the next generation

         2       but the generation that would follow that to

         3       burdens because of our failure to meet

         4       deadlines and to establish perimeters to our

         5       spending.

         6                  But what I would say is that we

         7       have a great opportunity in the next couple of

         8       days to pass an on-time budget for the second

         9       time in the 21 years, now, that I will have

        10       been a Senator.  And it is finally a pleasure

        11       to see that as we reach those deadlines, that

        12       we work with the spirited pace that we have

        13       over the last couple of days.

        14                  And I want to thank again the

        15       Majority Leader and the Speaker, the Governor,

        16       and the Minority Leader of the Assembly and

        17       all those who served on the committees for

        18       proving a point that we tried to make years

        19       ago, which is that the more you involve the

        20       members of this Legislature in the negotiation

        21       of the process, the quicker it can be

        22       achieved, the more effectively it can be

        23       achieved, and I think in the end the more

        24       admirable it is to all of our service.

        25                  So thank you, Mr. President.  And I


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         1       hope in the next couple of days that those who

         2       are feeling a little differently than perhaps

         3       the budget has allowed will get an opportunity

         4       to express that in a chamber where we would

         5       hopefully dedicate ourselves to the exchange

         6       of ideas and not just passing legislation that

         7       none of us have had the opportunity to peruse.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

         9       you, Senator Paterson.

        10                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        12       Senator Bruno.

        13                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Can we at this

        14       time call up Calendar Number 492.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        16       Secretary will read.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        18       492, Senate Budget Bill, Senate Print 6450C,

        19       an act making appropriations for the support

        20       of government.

        21                  SENATOR PATERSON:    Explanation.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        23       Senator Johnson, an explanation has been

        24       requested.

        25                  SENATOR JOHNSON:    Yes, Mr.


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         1       President.

         2                  This bill is really dealing with

         3       the public protection and general government.

         4       In the general government part, we deal with

         5       the Division of the Budget, the Governor's

         6       office, Lieutenant Governor's, Consumer

         7       Protection Board, Department of Civil Service,

         8       Capital Defender's Office, Crime Victims

         9       Board, Homeland Security, Public Employees

        10       Relations Board, et cetera.

        11                  And in addition to that, of course,

        12       we deal with aid to local governments.  And

        13       there's a lot of state assistance here to

        14       local governments in this bill as well.  And

        15       it deals with cities, towns, villages outside

        16       New York City; New York City itself; disaster

        17       money for New York City.

        18                  A very comprehensive bill, and I'm

        19       sure everyone would love to support it.

        20                  Thank you.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

        22       you, Senator.

        23                  Any Senator wishing to be heard?

        24                  Ring the bell.  We're on the

        25       controversial calendar.


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         1                  Read the last section.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         3       act shall take effect immediately.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

         5       the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         8       Announce the results.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.  Nays,

        10       1.  Senator Parker recorded in the negative.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        12       Senator Parker.

        13                  SENATOR PARKER:    To explain my

        14       vote, Mr. Chairman.

        15                  Mr. Chairman, first let me just

        16       congratulate all the members of the

        17       Legislature for -- you know, for our second

        18       year in a row of passing -- you know, going

        19       through the process of passing an on-time

        20       budget.  It took a great deal of, I think,

        21       cooperation amongst people in both houses, on

        22       both sides of the aisle.  Clearly we did a lot

        23       of great things for the people of the State of

        24       New York.

        25                  However, we still have not dealt


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         1       with the issue that is very, very pressing for

         2       my constituents, which is dealing with the

         3       Campaign for Fiscal Equity lawsuit.  I know we

         4       attempted to do that, but, you know, I think

         5       that this budget is out of whack in that

         6       concern.

         7                  I'm voting no not because I

         8       disagree with everything in this part of the

         9       budget, but we certainly cannot pass a

        10       balanced budget without having dealt with CFE

        11       in a very serious manner.

        12                  So I again congratulate everybody.

        13       I hope that we're able to come back and do

        14       something significant for CFE as it relates to

        15       operational dollars.  But at this time I vote

        16       no.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        18       Senator Parker will be recorded in the

        19       negative.

        20                  The bill is passed.

        21                  Senator Bruno.

        22                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President,

        23       can we at this time take up Calendar Number

        24       498.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The


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         1       Secretary will read.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         3       498, Senate Budget Bill, Senate Print 6456C,

         4       an act to amend the State Finance Law.

         5                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:

         6       Explanation.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         8       Senator Johnson, an explanation has been

         9       requested.

        10                  SENATOR JOHNSON:    Mr. President,

        11       this is the Article VII bill, the so-called

        12       language bill which implements the

        13       appropriations made in 6450C.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Does

        15       any other member wish to be heard?

        16                  Then the debate is closed.

        17                  Read the last section.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        19       act shall take effect immediately.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

        21       the roll.

        22                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        24       Announce the results.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.  Nays,


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         1       1.  Senator Parker recorded in the negative.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         3       bill is passed.

         4                  Senator Bruno.

         5                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President, is

         6       there any other business at the desk to come

         7       before the Senate at this time?

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    There

         9       is no other business at the desk, Senator.

        10                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Can we recognize

        11       Senator Gonzalez at this time, Mr. President.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        13       Senator Gonzalez.

        14                  SENATOR GONZALEZ:    Mr. President,

        15       there will be a Minority conference tomorrow,

        16       Thursday, March 30th, at 10:30 a.m., Room 315.

        17                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    There

        19       will be a Minority conference tomorrow, 10:30,

        20       Room 315.

        21                  Senator Bruno.

        22                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President,

        23       can we at this time recognize Senator Breslin

        24       for a motion to put before the house.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:


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         1       Senator Breslin.

         2                  SENATOR BRESLIN:    Mr. President,

         3       I believe there's a motion at the desk.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         5       Secretary will read.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Senate Print

         7       6371, by Senator Breslin, an act to amend the

         8       Environmental Conservation Law, the General

         9       Municipal Law, and the Tax Law.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        11       Senator Breslin.

        12                  SENATOR BRESLIN:    Mr. President,

        13       across this state we are having a difficult

        14       time preserving land for habitats, for nature

        15       walks --

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    A

        17       little order in the house, please.

        18                  Senator Breslin.

        19                  SENATOR BRESLIN:    -- for

        20       farmland, for drinking water.  And we have to

        21       have something constructive and uniform.

        22                  This bill would create and pass

        23       here and allow a local jurisdiction, a town or

        24       a city, to pass, first at their council level

        25       and then with a public referendum, the ability


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         1       to collect 2 percent off the transfer tax of

         2       home transfers.

         3                  Now, that wouldn't affect

         4       first-time homeowners, and it wouldn't affect

         5       affordable housing, because it's only

         6       2 percent above the median price for that

         7       particular home.

         8                  And it allows the local

         9       jurisdiction, before they go to referendum, to

        10       create a unit to study various projects that

        11       could be part of this process.

        12                  This would allow us to preserve

        13       those lands throughout this state that are

        14       being devastated by urbanization on a daily

        15       basis.  It's estimated that 174 acres a day go

        16       to building construction in this state.  Over

        17       a 15-year period ending in 1997, it was

        18       estimated in upstate New York that

        19       urbanization increased by over 30 percent,

        20       while at the same time population rose only

        21       2.6 percent.

        22                  It's important to have something in

        23       place to preserve those scenic areas, to

        24       preserve those farmlands, and to preserve our

        25       drinking water.  And I urge my fellow Senators


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         1       on both sides of the aisle to move forward to

         2       vote for this.

         3                  Thank you very much, Mr. President.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Thank

         5       you, Senator.

         6                  All those Senators in favor of the

         7       petition to move it out of committee will

         8       please signify by raising hands.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

        10       agreement are Senators Andrews, Breslin,

        11       Connor, Coppola, Diaz, Dilan, Duane, Gonzalez,

        12       Klein, L. Krueger, C. Kruger, Montgomery,

        13       Onorato, Oppenheimer, Parker, Paterson,

        14       Sabini, Sampson, Savino, Schneiderman,

        15       Serrano, A. Smith, M. Smith, Stachowski,

        16       Stavisky and Valesky.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        18       petition is not agreed to.

        19                  Senator Skelos.

        20                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        21       there being no further business to come before

        22       the Senate, I move we stand adjourned until

        23       March 30th, which is Thursday, tomorrow, at

        24       11:00 a.m.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    On


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         1       motion, the Senate stands adjourned until

         2       tomorrow, March 30th, 11:00 a.m.

         3                  (Whereupon, at 1:20 p.m., the

         4       Senate adjourned.)

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