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         1                 NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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         4                THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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         9                   ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                    March 26, 2007

        11                       3:09 p.m.

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        14                    REGULAR SESSION

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        18  LT. GOVERNOR DAVID A. PATERSON, President

        19  STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

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         1                 P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Senate will

         3       come to order.

         4                  I would ask all assembled to please

         5       join with me in observing our Flag by reciting

         6       the Pledge of Allegiance.

         7                  (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

         8       the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    It is indeed a

        10       special day here in the Senate, as it is every

        11       year when we get this wonderful visit from

        12       Rabbi Shmuel Butman.  He and all the other

        13       rabbis of the Lubavitcher movement have joined

        14       us today.

        15                  And so let me present to you Rabbi

        16       Shmuel Butman, in memory of the Grand Rebbe of

        17       the Lubavitcher, Menachem Schneerson, 1902 to

        18       1994, of blessed memory.

        19                  RABBI BUTMAN:    Boy.  That's so

        20       nice, David.

        21                  Let us pray.

        22                  [Hebrew] Our Heavenly Father, we

        23       ask You to bestow your blessings upon all the

        24       members of this great institution, the State

        25       Senate of the State of New York.  Bestow Your


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         1       blessings on them and the members of their

         2       family, for good health, long life, happiness

         3       and fulfillment in all their endeavors.

         4                  As mentioned earlier, we are here

         5       to celebrate the 105th birthday of the

         6       Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem M.

         7       Schneerson.  It is customary that we say the

         8       chapter in Psalms corresponding to our age,

         9       but we say the next chapter, because we are

        10       already in next year.  So when the Rebbe

        11       becomes 105 years old, he is in his 106th

        12       year.

        13                  In the first verse of Chapter 106

        14       in Psalms, written by King David, he says

        15       [Hebrew], which means:  Thank Almighty God,

        16       for He is good and His benevolence is eternal.

        17                  There was a great sage, Rebbe Levi

        18       Yitzchok of Berditchev, and when you would ask

        19       him how he is, he would say [Hebrew], meaning:

        20       [Hebrew] I thank God for the past, [Hebrew] I

        21       thank God for the present.  Almighty God is

        22       good.  [Hebrew] I thank God for His eternal

        23       benevolence.

        24                  Each and every single one of us is

        25       thanking God.  We thank God for the past, we


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         1       thank God for the present, and we thank God

         2       for the future, especially each and every one

         3       of you, who is elected by the great people of

         4       the State of New York to be their

         5       representative in the past, in the present,

         6       and hopefully in the future.  You are the

         7       custodians of goodness, kindness, honesty,

         8       decency in the State of New York.

         9                  I remember that years ago when I

        10       went to Washington, in 1991, to open the

        11       United States Senate, your sister

        12       organization, the Rebbe told me:  "Take a

        13       tzedakah pushkeh with you, and while you will

        14       pray, you should offer a dollar and let

        15       everybody see what charity should go for."

        16                  I'm going to do what the Rebbe

        17       asked me to do.  I'm going to make this

        18       offering of one dollar, and on this dollar it

        19       does say:  "In God we trust."  They did not

        20       forget.  On this dollar it says:  "In God we

        21       trust," and I'm making this offering.

        22                  The Rebbe says we live in a special

        23       generation:  The last generation of exile, the

        24       first generation of redemption.  We can bring

        25       the redemption closer by doing more deeds of


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         1       goodness and kindness.  Putting a dollar into

         2       a pushkeh is an act of goodness and kindness.

         3                  So I don't want you to think this

         4       is a fundraising campaign.  However, if anyone

         5       wants to contribute one dollar into the

         6       pushkeh to do an act of goodness and kindness,

         7       that would be greatly appreciated.

         8                  May Almighty God bestow his

         9       blessings on you, as every Saturday we say a

        10       special blessing for you.  In our synagogues

        11       on Saturday, we say [Hebrew]:  All those who

        12       serve the public faithfully, as you do,

        13       [Hebrew], which means Almighty God himself

        14       should reward their deeds.

        15                  We as human beings are too small to

        16       be able to reward you for all the good things

        17       that you do.  But Almighty God Himself, in His

        18       eternal benevolence, will reward you for all

        19       the good things you do and for all the service

        20       you offer for the great people in the State of

        21       New York -- and, by extension, to all the

        22       people in the United States and all the people

        23       in the free world -- for health, for

        24       happiness, for fulfillment in your personal

        25       life and in your communal life.


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         1                  And let us say amen.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Amen.

         3                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President.

         4       Mr. President.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Skelos.

         6                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President, I

         7       would like to once again welcome -- I'd like

         8       to welcome the distinguished Rabbi and learned

         9       Rabbi to the chamber.

        10                  And, Rabbi, I just want to point

        11       out that the dollar that the Lieutenant

        12       Governor gave you, he borrowed it from me.

        13                  (Laughter.)

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Ten more minutes

        15       and we'll all agree on the avails.

        16                  (Laughter.)

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    The reading of

        18       the Journal.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

        20       Sunday, March 25, the Senate met pursuant to

        21       adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday,

        22       March 24, was read and approved.  On motion,

        23       Senate adjourned.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    Without

        25       objection, the Journal stands approved as


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         1       read.

         2                  Presentation of petitions.

         3                  Messages from the Assembly.

         4                  Messages from the Governor.

         5                  Reports of standing committees.

         6                  Reports of select committees.

         7                  Communications and reports from

         8       state officers.

         9                  Motions and resolutions.

        10                  Senator Nozzolio.

        11                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Thank you,

        12       Mr. President.

        13                  I wish to call up, on behalf of

        14       Senator Marcellino, Print Number 699, recalled

        15       from the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        17       will read.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       144, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 699,

        20       an act to amend the Environmental Conservation

        21       Law.

        22                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Mr. President,

        23       I now move to reconsider the vote by which

        24       this bill was passed.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary


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         1       will call the roll upon reconsideration.

         2                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 51.

         4                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    On behalf of

         5       Senator Marcellino, I offer the following

         6       amendments.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

         8       are received and adopted.

         9                  Senator Nozzolio.

        10                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Thank you

        11       again, Mr. President.

        12                  On behalf of Senator Maltese, I

        13       move that the following bills be discharged

        14       from their respective committees and be

        15       recommitted with instructions to strike the

        16       enacting clause:  Senate Number 301.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    So ordered.

        18                  Senator Skelos.

        19                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President, I

        20       believe there's one substitution at the desk.

        21       If we could make it at this time.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    Could we have a

        23       little order in the chamber.  I'm having

        24       trouble hearing Senator Skelos.  And he did

        25       lend me a dollar earlier; I'd like to hear


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         1       everything that he says.

         2                  The Secretary will read.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    On page 21,

         4       Senator Oppenheimer moves to discharge, from

         5       the Committee on Investigations and Government

         6       Operations, Assembly Bill Number 3358 and

         7       substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

         8       Number 1553, Third Reading Calendar 275.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Substitution

        10       ordered.

        11                  Senator Skelos.

        12                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        13       if we could go to the noncontroversial reading

        14       of the calendar.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        16       will conduct the noncontroversial reading of

        17       the calendar.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       85, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 1621, an

        20       act to amend the Labor Law, in relation to

        21       directing a review.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        23       will read the last section.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        25       act shall take effect immediately.


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         1                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

         2       will call the roll.

         3                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    And the Secretary

         5       will announce the results.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         8       passed.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        10       118, by Senator Little, Senate Print 1129, an

        11       act to amend the Town Law, in relation to

        12       appointment.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        14       section.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        16       act shall take effect immediately.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        18                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    Results.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        22       passed.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        24       205, by Senator Young, Senate Print 391, an

        25       act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law, in


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         1       relation to the definition of drug.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         3       section.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

         5       act shall take effect on the 30th day.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         7                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    Results.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 54.  Nays,

        10       1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        12       passed.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        14       227, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 2625, an

        15       act to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in

        16       relation to adjusted base proportions.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    By all means,

        18       read the last section.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        22                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        25       passed.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         2       228, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 2626, an

         3       act to amend the Real Property Tax Law, in

         4       relation to allowing.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         6       section.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         8       act shall take effect immediately.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        10                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        13       passed.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        15       229, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 827, an

        16       act to amend Chapter 591 of the Laws of 2001

        17       amending the Banking Law.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        22                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        25       passed.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         2       244, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 223, an

         3       act to amend the Education Law, in relation to

         4       requiring institutions.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         7       act shall take effect on the first of January

         8       next succeeding.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        10                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Krueger,

        12       to explain her vote.

        13                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you,

        14       Mr. President.

        15                  Well, we've debated this here in

        16       previous years, so I won't go through the

        17       debate with Senator Larkin again.

        18                  But in voting no for the bill, let

        19       me both make the same point that if not

        20       carefully crafted and implemented, passage of

        21       this legislation would violate the federal

        22       FERPA law, putting federal funds in jeopardy

        23       for our colleges.

        24                  And, second and most fundamental

        25       for me, if you're 18 and you're in college,


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         1       therefore you're defined as an adult -- we

         2       send you to war at 18 -- that you and your

         3       parents should work out the details of when

         4       you provide them grades.

         5                  I respect that many of my

         6       colleagues feel, having college-student

         7       children, that they sometimes don't know what

         8       they're doing.  And they want to know more,

         9       and they want to be involved, and I totally

        10       respect that.  I don't think we have to

        11       legislate it.

        12                  If your children don't want to give

        13       you their grades from college and they are

        14       dependents, don't pay the next semester's

        15       tuition until you get the grades.  We in the

        16       Legislature don't need to be involved in this

        17       relationship.

        18                  I vote no, Mr. President.  Thank

        19       you.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Krueger

        21       will be recorded in the negative.

        22                  Senator Connor, to explain his

        23       vote.

        24                  SENATOR CONNOR:    Thank you,

        25       Mr. President.


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         1                  You know, when I first sat in this

         2       chamber, I wasn't so many years -- just a few

         3       years out of school.  And I opposed raising

         4       the drinking age because in my generation, in

         5       the late '60s and '70s, while New York had 18,

         6       we fought to get 18 in other places, because

         7       at 18 my generation was sent to war, and they

         8       weren't volunteers.  A lot of them weren't

         9       volunteers.

        10                  And so when FERPA first passed, I

        11       thought that's great, why should the parents

        12       get the grades and all.

        13                  You know, was it Churchill that

        14       said when you get older, you know, you're a

        15       fool if you're not more conservative?  Well,

        16       it's not that I'm older.  I happen to have two

        17       college-age sons, and I write the checks.  And

        18       yes, they're legally adults -- but, at 18, not

        19       mature.

        20                  In conference I offered Senator

        21       Krueger or any of my other colleagues who

        22       don't have college-age kids that they could

        23       adopt one and pay the tuition for a year and

        24       see if they want to see the grades or not.

        25                  But I think, on a serious level,


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         1       parents ought to know the grades.  More

         2       importantly, they ought to know how their

         3       child is doing.

         4                  I went to a very sad funeral on

         5       Saturday of a young woman who had gone off to

         6       Yale, I guess flunked her first semester, then

         7       went to Columbia, flunked her second semester.

         8       You know, it took a while for her parents to

         9       catch on.  She had a serious drug problem, and

        10       unfortunately she passed away last week from

        11       it.

        12                  So there are serious issues here.

        13       And I think we ought to rethink about the role

        14       parents play in the lives of 18- and 19- and

        15       20-year-olds.  If the school can't tell you if

        16       your child is cutting all their classes

        17       because they have some problem, whether it's

        18       substance or whatever -- psychological -- and

        19       they can't show you the grades, it's very hard

        20       for parents to take steps when their son or

        21       daughter is in some sort of trouble.

        22                  Albeit legally an adult, they are

        23       still learning and finding their way, and

        24       problems do develop.  And I think we ought to

        25       be helping parents.


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         1                  So I'm voting for this bill, and I

         2       applaud the sponsor for bringing it out.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Connor

         4       will be recorded in the affirmative.

         5                  Senator Diaz, to explain his vote.

         6                  SENATOR DIAZ:    Thank you,

         7       Mr. President.

         8                  I'm also joining my colleague

         9       Senator Connor in supporting this bill.  I

        10       believe that a parent has all the right to

        11       know, as long as their children live in their

        12       home and they are responsible for those

        13       children, even though they are 18, 19,

        14       whatever age they are.

        15                  For a parent to send their children

        16       to a university, sometimes they have to spend

        17       money paying, helping their children in their

        18       education.  And for them to be prevented of

        19       knowing the grades or how our children are

        20       doing in any university or college is

        21       something that I would not support.

        22                  I think that parents have the

        23       right.  I voted last year for this bill.  And

        24       again, I'm voting for it again.  And a parent

        25       has all the right in the world to know.  To


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         1       deny the parent the right to know is something

         2       that the State of New York should not get

         3       involved in.

         4                  So I'm supporting the sponsor and

         5       praising the sponsor of the bill and joining

         6       everyone that is voting in favor of this bill.

         7                  Please, Mr. Chairman, count me in

         8       favor of the bill.  Thank you.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Diaz will

        10       be recorded in the affirmative.

        11                  The Secretary will announce the

        12       results.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

        14       the negative on Calendar Number 244 are

        15       Senators Breslin, Duane, L. Krueger, Parker,

        16       Perkins and Serrano.

        17                  Ayes, 54.  Nays, 6.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        19       passed in loco parentis.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        21       263, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 2338, an

        22       act to authorize the executive director of the

        23       Office of Real Property Tax Services.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        25       section.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         2       act shall take effect immediately.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         4                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Announce the

         6       results.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         9       passed.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        11       275, substituted earlier today by Member of

        12       the Assembly Bradley, Assembly Print Number

        13       3358, an act to amend the Tax Law.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        15       section.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        19                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        22       passed.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        24       310, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 3020A, an

        25       act to amend the Insurance Law, in relation to


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         1       establishing.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         4       act shall take effect immediately.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         9       passed.

        10                  Senator Skelos, that completes the

        11       reading of the calendar.

        12                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Is there any

        13       further business to come before the Senate?

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    There is no

        15       business at the desk, Senator Skelos.

        16                  SENATOR SKELOS:    There being no

        17       further business, I move we stand adjourned

        18       until Tuesday, March 27th, at 3:00 p.m.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Senate will

        20       stand adjourned until Tuesday, March 27th, at

        21       3:00 p.m.

        22                  (Whereupon, at 3:28 p.m., the

        23       Senate adjourned.)

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