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         1                 NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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         4                THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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         9                   ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                    March 31, 2007

        11                       4:50 p.m.

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        14                    REGULAR SESSION

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        18  LT. GOVERNOR DAVID A. PATERSON, President

        19  STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

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         1                 P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Senate will

         3       come to order.

         4                  I would ask that all rise and

         5       please join with all of us in reciting the

         6       Pledge of Allegiance.

         7                  (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

         8       the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    For our

        10       invocation today, we're joined by a newcomer

        11       to the Senate, the Reverend Peter G. Young, of

        12       Albany, who works on Saturdays.

        13                  (Laughter.)

        14                  REVEREND YOUNG:    As we have just

        15       stood and sworn our allegiance to the American

        16       Flag, we're very proud as New Yorkers to know

        17       that the christening of the American Flag was

        18       first flown in battle at the defense of Fort

        19       Stanwick in Rome.

        20                  Therefore, it's with great pride

        21       that we are able to serve in this chamber to

        22       see that these Senators are following in this

        23       rich patriotic tradition as the elected

        24       leaders to fulfill Your call, O God, for

        25       leadership for all of our citizens and to You


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         1       in New York State.

         2                  Amen.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you, Father

         4       Young, serving in his 48th year.

         5                  The reading of the Journal.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

         7       Friday, March 30, the Senate met pursuant to

         8       adjournment.  The Journal of Thursday,

         9       March 29, was read and approved.  On motion,

        10       Senate adjourned.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Without

        12       objection, the Journal stands approved as

        13       read.

        14                  We will now move to the order of

        15       business.

        16                  Presentation of petitions.

        17                  Messages from the Assembly.

        18                  Messages from the Governor.

        19                  Reports of standing committees.

        20                  Reports of select committees.

        21                  Communications and reports from

        22       state officers.

        23                  Motions and resolutions.

        24                  Senator Libous.

        25                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    If we can go to


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         1       reports of standing committees, Mr. President,

         2       there is a report of the Finance Committee at

         3       the desk.

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    We'll move to

         5       reports of standing committees.

         6                  The Secretary will read.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator O.

         8       Johnson, from the Committee on Finance,

         9       reports the following nomination.

        10                  As Commissioner of the Department

        11       of Environmental Conservation, Alexander B.

        12       Pete Grannis, of New York City.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    The chair

        14       recognizes, on the nomination, Senator

        15       Johnson.

        16                  SENATOR OWEN JOHNSON:    I move the

        17       nomination.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

        19       nomination, the chair recognizes

        20       Senator Krueger.

        21                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you,

        22       Mr. President.

        23                  I rise to support the nomination of

        24       Pete Grannis as the next commissioner of the

        25       Department of Environmental Conservation.  And


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         1       I speak both for myself and the Democrats in

         2       the New York State Senate.

         3                  I am Assemblymember Grannis's State

         4       Senator; he is my Assemblymember.  And so as a

         5       result, we have been able to develop a very

         6       close relationship of working together both

         7       here in Albany and in our district at home.

         8                  And what I'd like to share on a

         9       personal note is that Assemblymember Grannis

        10       has an unbelievable commitment to the people

        11       of New York State that he has shown for his

        12       32 years in the Assembly and has shown through

        13       his personal commitment to taking on the

        14       challenge -- and it has been a challenge -- to

        15       become the next commissioner of DEC in

        16       New York State.

        17                  We've had several hearings, and

        18       people have had an opportunity to learn about

        19       Assemblymember Grannis's biography and all the

        20       work he's done on behalf of the people of

        21       New York State and the fact that he has a long

        22       history as an advocate for the environment, as

        23       someone who has an extraordinary respect for

        24       and appreciation for the importance of

        25       Environmental Conservation, but also the


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         1       technical knowledge to be the commissioner of

         2       such an important agency.

         3                  He has worked on legislation with

         4       so many of us throughout the years that is

         5       relevant to the environment.  He has technical

         6       expertise in what the responsibilities of the

         7       DEC are.  But perhaps even greater than that

         8       is Assemblymember Grannis's combined personal

         9       commitment and skill in learning about the

        10       issues that he might not know about, and his

        11       openness and willingness to work with everyone

        12       to hammer out hard fights to come to the

        13       decisions that are in the best interests of

        14       the people of the State of New York.

        15                  He does have a commitment to

        16       protecting our open spaces and providing wider

        17       access to the outdoors.  He does have a

        18       respect for the outdoor tradition.  He

        19       understands the different but equally critical

        20       importance of urban environmental issues,

        21       rural environmental issues and suburban

        22       issues.

        23                  He understands that often there's a

        24       balance between the needs of communities and

        25       the needs of the overall environment that, as


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         1       the DEC commissioner, he must be the steward

         2       of.  Because let's be honest; if we aren't

         3       protecting our environment, we're not writing

         4       off our future, we're writing off our

         5       children's future, our grandchildren's future.

         6                  And so to say that Pete Grannis

         7       will be the DEC commissioner under the Spitzer

         8       administration who will move us forward in the

         9       21st century to ensure that we take on the

        10       unbelievable difficult challenges of the

        11       risking of global warming, of air pollution,

        12       water pollution, brownfields, the problems of

        13       invasive species to our agricultural industry

        14       and to our parks, to balance out the needs of

        15       our businesses with the protection of our

        16       environment when dealing with questions of

        17       pesticides and toxins, to deal with the very

        18       difficult issues of how we do remediation of

        19       pollution that has been left unchecked for too

        20       many decades.

        21                  Sometimes I worried during the last

        22       few weeks that the term "environmentalist" was

        23       somehow a negative term when describing the

        24       next commissioner of the Department of

        25       Environmental Conservation.  But in fact,


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         1       that's what we all are.  We are obligated to

         2       respect and protect our environment -- not

         3       just ourselves and for our constituents, but

         4       for the generations to come.  And we are years

         5       too late in taking on many of these issues.

         6                  And in closing, I can think of no

         7       candidate that Governor Spitzer would have

         8       proposed to us to be the commissioner of DEC

         9       who is better suited, better skilled, better

        10       qualified to take this enormous challenge.

        11                  So in my renomination and

        12       confirmation of our nomination of Pete Grannis

        13       for commissioner of DEC, I want to thank him

        14       for his willingness to take on this enormous

        15       challenge.  Some people would argue that after

        16       32 years in the Assembly, he could rest on the

        17       laurels that he had so proudly and rightly

        18       earned himself in all the years of good

        19       legislation and great stewardship of his

        20       district.  And yet he is excited and motivated

        21       to take on this very difficult job.

        22                  So I want to thank Pete so much for

        23       taking on this new challenge, and wish my best

        24       to his wife, Ainslie, who is here with us

        25       today also, both of whom are dear friends.


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         1                  Thank you, Mr. President.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you,

         3       Senator Krueger.

         4                  On the nomination, Senator

         5       C. Johnson.

         6                  SENATOR CRAIG JOHNSON:    Thank

         7       you, Mr. President.  I rise this evening to

         8       support the nomination of Pete Grannis.

         9                  First, I want to commend Senator

        10       Marcellino, the chairman of the Environmental

        11       Conservation Committee.  As the ranking member

        12       of the EnCon Committee, I was very impressed

        13       with Senator Marcellino's handling of the

        14       hearing, its fairness, and the way the

        15       questions were handled, his openness to other

        16       members of the Senate not on EnCon to question

        17       the nominee.

        18                  So I thank Senator Marcellino from

        19       this side of the aisle for chairing that

        20       committee in such a gentlemanly fashion.

        21                  For Pete Grannis, I wish to

        22       congratulate you here tonight on your

        23       confirmation.  But I issue you a challenge.

        24       It's a tough challenge.  DEC, as we talked

        25       about in the confirmation hearing, is one of


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         1       the most important agencies we have in

         2       New York State.  It does so much.  And for

         3       years it's faced budget cuts, it's faced

         4       workforce shortages.

         5                  Tonight, when we vote on the

         6       budget, hopefully we'll start the process of

         7       restoring, restoring employees to the DEC,

         8       making it easier for now Commissioner Grannis

         9       to do his job for the men and women of this

        10       state.  But it's going to be a difficult job,

        11       and we're going to have to stand with

        12       Commissioner Grannis as he goes forward.

        13                  But what I took from the hearings

        14       was his open-mindedness and his fairness.  The

        15       state, as large as it is and as diverse as it

        16       is -- upstate, middle-state, downstate -- has

        17       so many different interests when it comes to

        18       the environment.  And what I was impressed

        19       with Assemblyman Grannis was his ability to

        20       talk about the issues and express an

        21       open-mindedness, to listen to everybody when

        22       it comes to a particular issue, whether it's

        23       hunting or fishing or trapping or whether it's

        24       about greenhouse gases and the need to reduce

        25       carbon monoxide within our state.


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         1                  So I congratulate soon-to-be-

         2       Commissioner Grannis, I look forward to

         3       working with you in the DEC, and I wish you

         4       the very best.  Congratulations, sir.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

         6       nomination, Senator Volker.

         7                  SENATOR VOLKER:    Mr. President,

         8       regrettably, as a representative of four

         9       counties in upstate New York -- and I have had

        10       many conversations with Pete Grannis, who I've

        11       known for I guess 30, 32 years -- I'm going to

        12       have to, as I did in the Senate Finance

        13       Committee -- and I gave him the reasons that

        14       make me speak against him.

        15                  Not as a person or as an

        16       individual -- and I understand the difference

        17       between we who live in upstate New York -- and

        18       as I said to him, I think there many times is

        19       kind of a chasm between the cultures of

        20       upstate New York and New York City; in

        21       particular, Manhattan.

        22                  The problem is that the people of

        23       my district have made it extremely clear that

        24       they are opposed to the nomination.  And it is

        25       true that some of the reasons is a


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         1       misunderstanding of the role of the Department

         2       of Environmental Conservation.  However, I

         3       would also point out that the Department of

         4       Environmental Conservation at times I think

         5       has misjudged its role itself.

         6                  And although I congratulate you on

         7       being the new commissioner, I have to say that

         8       I only speak here to make it clear that on

         9       behalf of the people of my district, I would

        10       have to not support you, and as I did,

        11       frankly, in the Senate Finance Committee,

        12       regrettably.  But I feel it's my duty to

        13       represent the people of the four counties that

        14       I represent in upstate New York.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

        16       nomination, Senator Serrano.

        17                  SENATOR SERRANO:    Thank you,

        18       Mr. President.  I rise to wholeheartedly

        19       support the nomination of Assemblyman Pete

        20       Grannis to this position.

        21                  As many may know, Pete Grannis was

        22       sworn in to the Assembly the same year, 1975,

        23       as my father, Congressman Serrano.  And I grew

        24       up hearing very fond talk, very strong talk

        25       about the great work that Mr. Grannis was


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         1       doing.

         2                  And it was such pleasure two years

         3       ago to be elected to a Senate district that

         4       overlapped with Assemblymember Grannis and to

         5       see firsthand how he got things done, how well

         6       he worked with others.  And it's rare to see

         7       someone with that level of experience and that

         8       wealth of knowledge that he brings to his

         9       work, and I'm sure that he will do a wonderful

        10       job in dealing with all the issues that we

        11       have in our state.

        12                  In the 28th Senate District we have

        13       major problems with brownfields and issues

        14       with asthma in the South Bronx and in East

        15       Harlem.  And I feel very good about

        16       soon-to-be-Commissioner Grannis and the work

        17       that he will do on behalf of the residents,

        18       not only of the 28th Senate District but

        19       throughout the entire state.

        20                  So thank you, Mr. President, and I

        21       support this nomination.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

        23       nomination, Senator Marcellino.

        24                  SENATOR MARCELLINO:    Thank you,

        25       Mr. President.


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         1                  As chairman of EnCon, I rise to

         2       extend my hand to the incoming commissioner in

         3       hopes that we can work together and will work

         4       together in the years to come on the many

         5       important issues that affect this state.

         6                  The Department of Environmental

         7       Conservation, as has been said before, is one

         8       of the key agencies in the state, probably the

         9       largest enforcement agency the state has on

        10       most important issues.

        11                  Brownfields legislation, that I

        12       worked very hard on for many years to get

        13       passed in this state, has a problem, and the

        14       problem is in the development of the regs and

        15       implementation of the regulations.  I'd like

        16       to work with you together on that, Pete,

        17       because I think they need to be done and done

        18       correctly.

        19                  The DEC's image, I think as you

        20       heard in Finance and perhaps got a hint of in

        21       the EnCon hearings, needs to change.  There

        22       are regions of this state that look upon the

        23       department that you will be heading as the

        24       enemy.  That's not good.

        25                  It's the old joke, "I'm from the


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         1       government, I'm here to help you," and

         2       everybody laughs.  But it really isn't funny

         3       when people look on the government as their

         4       enemy.  When the government official comes in

         5       to try to help clean up water or clean up a

         6       spill or clean up a problem or deal with

         7       something, an issue that arises that's locally

         8       important, and all of a sudden those people

         9       are the enemy, that's not a good thing.

        10                  I think we need to work together to

        11       change that.  The department should be welcome

        12       in all communities.  In all communities.

        13       Because as was said before during the hearings

        14       and will be said many times again, nobody

        15       wants dirty water, nobody wants foul land,

        16       everybody wants open space and preservation.

        17       We all want the good things for our families

        18       and for our children and for our

        19       grandchildren.

        20                  Yours is a tremendous

        21       responsibility, it truly is.  And you've got a

        22       lot of work ahead of you to be done.  I urge

        23       you to be visible all over the state.  Visit

        24       all the regions more than once.  Be a regular

        25       face in those regions so they know who you are


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         1       and so you understand them and they understand

         2       you.  I think that will go a long way.

         3                  You were a legislator for 30-plus

         4       years.  You understand the process.  You

         5       understand consensus building.  Before you can

         6       get something done in a positive way, you know

         7       people have to agree with you from diverse

         8       origins and from diverse directions.  I urge

         9       you to remember that and never forget it,

        10       because it will serve you well as

        11       commissioner.

        12                  I wish you luck.  You have my

        13       cooperation.  And God bless you.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you,

        15       Senator Marcellino.

        16                  On the nomination, Senator Bonacic.

        17                  SENATOR BONACIC:    Thank you,

        18       Mr. President.

        19                  First of all, a narrow

        20       interpretation of the Constitution would have

        21       us approve any nominee of the Executive as

        22       long as he or she was not incompetent.

        23       Competence or incompetence of a nominee, in my

        24       view does not relate to political views, it

        25       relates to the capacity to do the job.


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         1                  I am of the opinion generally that

         2       the Executive ought to have the nominee that

         3       he wants so long as that nominee is an honest

         4       broker in terms of controversy, that nominee

         5       is not incompetent, and that nominee is not

         6       related in any way to the Executive.

         7                  Just a little history; bear with me

         8       a minute.  Alexander Hamilton, in The 

         9       Federalist Papers, talks about having an

        10       advice and consent clause which would "prevent

        11       the appointment of unfit characters from State

        12       prejudice, from family connections, from

        13       personal attachments or from a view to

        14       popularity."

        15                  What I take from this man's words

        16       is that our constitutional responsibility is

        17       to make sure that nepotism does not occur or

        18       hacks are not appointed to this important

        19       office.  However, I believe we abdicate our

        20       responsibility if we don't look at the history

        21       of this nominee.

        22                  This nominee knows I have concerns.

        23       The nominee knows that the DEC is probably the

        24       most important position in our Senate

        25       district.  However, we deal, Senator Seward


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         1       and I, with watershed issues, we deal with

         2       flooding issues, we deal with recreational

         3       uses on city lands, state lands.  And we have

         4       sponsored legislation, with your help, to

         5       force New York City DEP to open up their lands

         6       so we could have more recreation, tourism,

         7       economic vitality.

         8                  I deal with the DEC on economic

         9       development in the watershed, on state support

        10       for Belleayre, on whether the dams in our

        11       district are safe, or upgrading the

        12       campgrounds.  I could go on and on and on.

        13                  In terms of voting for Peter

        14       Grannis, I had to make sure that he understood

        15       the issues; again, he would be an honest

        16       broker.  The nominee has assured me that he

        17       will not try to ban or restrict hunting,

        18       fishing, trapping.  He has assured me that he

        19       will work on all of these issues honestly.

        20                  I am aware that in my district some

        21       sportsmen have concerns.  They want me to

        22       reject Peter Grannis.  And I've given it a

        23       great deal of thought.  I am proud to support

        24       the sportsmen and the Second Amendment rights

        25       every year since I've been here.  I am proud


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         1       to have voted against the efforts to limit the

         2       Second Amendment in any way.

         3                  When we look at this DEC job, it

         4       covers, as Senator Marcellino pointed out, a

         5       variety of areas -- environmental permits, air

         6       and waste management, air resources,

         7       environmental remediation, solid and hazardous

         8       waste, natural resources, water quality,

         9       climate control, mineral resources.  And we

        10       can go on and on and on.  This nominee has an

        11       awesome area of responsibility and so much

        12       subject matter to cover.

        13                  A manifest lack of qualification

        14       does not mean that he would simply vote

        15       differently than I on a single issue.  If that

        16       were the case, this chamber would be empty.

        17       As a member of the Senate Environmental

        18       Committee, I've asked Peter Grannis tough

        19       questions, many questions, in many of the

        20       areas that I've told you that his department

        21       would cover.  He was honest, he was

        22       professional, he was competent.

        23                  The conclusion that I come to,

        24       after he has testified, is that he will work

        25       for all of us, he will be an honest broker


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         1       when there's controversy, and he's promised

         2       that he would.

         3                  And this nominee knows that his

         4       policies will be based on the Governor's

         5       policies, and we all understand that, and that

         6       the Governor will be responsible for the major

         7       policy decisions on the environment.  I

         8       believe this nominee knows it.  His testimony

         9       demonstrates his competence, his honesty.  And

        10       for all of those reasons, I will be voting in

        11       the affirmative.

        12                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

        14       nomination, Senator Klein.

        15                  SENATOR KLEIN:    Thank you,

        16       Mr. President.

        17                  It's my privilege to rise today in

        18       support of the nomination of Alexander Pete

        19       Grannis as our new commissioner of the

        20       Department of Environmental Conservation.

        21                  We all sometimes think to ourselves

        22       on what type of an elected official we want to

        23       be.  And I think Pete Grannis is that elected

        24       official.  He's intelligent, he's passionate

        25       about issues.  He's truly, I think, someone we


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         1       consider a public man.

         2                  I had the privilege of serving in

         3       the Assembly for ten years with Pete Grannis.

         4       Sometimes we agreed; sometimes we didn't

         5       agree.  But always I respected him as someone

         6       who understood an issue, was well-versed in a

         7       whole -- really, a myriad of different types

         8       of issues, be it housing, insurance.  He's

         9       someone who truly understands what it means to

        10       be a legislator.

        11                  All of us now, I guess, in the

        12       newspapers, we read an awful lot about reform.

        13       Well, I think through his 30-plus-year career,

        14       Pete Grannis lived reform.  He was always on

        15       the right side of issues, someone who is

        16       beyond reproach, someone who really

        17       understands what it means to be an advocate.

        18       And I think the future of our environment will

        19       be in great hands with our new commissioner,

        20       Alexander Pete Grannis.

        21                  Thank you.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

        23       nomination, Senator Morahan.

        24                  SENATOR MORAHAN:    Thank you,

        25       Mr. President.


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         1                  I also rise in support of this

         2       nomination.  I attended EnCon hearings through

         3       the confirmation process and also earlier

         4       today the Finance Committee that forwarded

         5       that nomination to the floor.

         6                  I first met Pete Grannis in 1981.

         7       And at that time in the Assembly I was

         8       impressed with his passion, his knowledge, his

         9       hard work, and his attention to detail.

        10                  But I was more impressed in the

        11       last several weeks as he went through the

        12       confirmation process with his answers, his

        13       approach to the new commissionership that he's

        14       now going to assume, and gave me the answers I

        15       needed so that I could vote for him with full

        16       confidence.

        17                  Yes, he's able.  Yes, he's

        18       qualified.  But some of the myths that have

        19       clouded this nomination -- such as he's not

        20       for hunters, when he grew up as a hunter with

        21       his dad, that he continues to be an avid

        22       fisherman today.  That he's anti-gun.  I don't

        23       know whether he is or he isn't, but I know as

        24       the DEC commissioner he will have nothing to

        25       do with gun regulation or gun licensing.


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         1                  I believe Pete Grannis is a

         2       capable, honest, hardworking individual who

         3       will take the DEC into new realms of concerns,

         4       such as the dams that we have in our

         5       districts, such as the oil spills that we have

         6       in our districts, and contaminants, those

         7       issues that affect our air, our water, our

         8       environment, the great lands of the State of

         9       New York, our great parklands.

        10                  And I know his management will

        11       probably be a new dawning in that

        12       commissionership, because so many of us in the

        13       past have been somewhat disappointed with the

        14       arbitrary, coldhearted way they would respond

        15       as law enforcement people to constituent

        16       concerns.

        17                  So, Commissioner Grannis, you have

        18       my personal support and my congratulations,

        19       and we'll be watching to see how you do this

        20       great job that you're now going to assume.

        21                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you,

        23       Senator Morahan.

        24                  On the nomination, Senator

        25       Schneiderman.


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         1                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

         2       Mr. President.

         3                  It's really with tremendous pride

         4       that I rise in support of this nominee.  We

         5       get to cast a lot of votes in this house.  I

         6       cannot think of a better person to vote for

         7       than Alexander Pete Grannis.

         8                  I appreciate the comments of

         9       Senator Morahan and Senator Bonacic referring

        10       to other fine American leaders.  Senator

        11       Bonacic spoke about Alexander "Pete" Hamilton,

        12       another great New Yorker, who in fact was born

        13       in Santo Domingo and then came to Upper

        14       Manhattan, and so was one of my -- I consider

        15       him the first of my constituents.

        16                  But I will say this.  When I first

        17       got to Albany and was really, frankly,

        18       dismayed by what I perceived to be a certain

        19       lack of integrity in the process and a lack of

        20       intelligent and fair consideration of issues,

        21       one of the people who I could look up to and

        22       respect in every aspect of the legislative

        23       process was Pete Grannis.

        24                  This is a guy who way before reform

        25       came into fashion would pay for his own


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         1       dinner, would take care of his own matters,

         2       would act against the direction of his own

         3       leader in his house if it was what he believed

         4       to be correct.

         5                  This is a guy who exemplifies the

         6       concept of playing on a team but not losing

         7       your integrity.  I think he will make a great

         8       commissioner.

         9                  And to all of my colleagues who

        10       have questions about whether or not you

        11       disagree with him on an issue or you're

        12       concerned about the direction the DEC will

        13       take, you cannot have a more honest broker

        14       than Pete Grannis.  I disagree with a lot of

        15       people in this chamber on a lot of issues, but

        16       there are people here who I have honest

        17       disagreements with I respect and I know that

        18       we can work things out.

        19                  You will disagree with some of

        20       things that DEC does in the Spitzer

        21       administration.  But it is a big state.  We

        22       have a lot of pressing issues in my district.

        23       We have people dying because of the poison in

        24       our air and water.  We have asthma rates that

        25       are out of control.  This is something that


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         1       requires attention.

         2                  The balance between the interests

         3       of the people in the watershed and the people

         4       who drink the water from the watershed is

         5       very, very tough to maintain.  But can you

         6       honestly say that there's a member of this

         7       Legislature who over the years has

         8       demonstrated more intelligence and more

         9       integrity than Pete Grannis?  I think not.

        10                  And I think we should all be very

        11       proud to rise in support of his nomination,

        12       and I do so today.

        13                  Thank you, Mr. Commissioner.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you,

        15       Senator Schneiderman.

        16                  Point of information, Senator

        17       Schneiderman.  Alexander Hamilton was born on

        18       the island of St. Croix, in 1751.

        19                  (Laughter.)

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

        21       nomination, Senator LaValle.

        22                  SENATOR LaVALLE:    Thank you,

        23       Mr. President.  I rise in support of the

        24       nomination.

        25                  For the First Senate District,


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         1       environmental issues are critically important,

         2       whether it be preservation of open space,

         3       protection of our waterways, quality of our

         4       air -- very, very important.

         5                  During the Finance Committee, I

         6       asked the man who will be our commissioner

         7       questions about a project in the middle of

         8       Long Island Sound that would begin the

         9       industrialization of Long Island Sound.  And

        10       of course he gave a very temperate answer,

        11       because his agency will be involved in making

        12       decisions and he did not want to prejudice

        13       that by his comments today.

        14                  Senator Schneiderman made a very,

        15       very interesting point that even strengthens

        16       my resolve on this nominee.  Because I do know

        17       that throughout his career he has held views

        18       very strongly, sometimes in the face of

        19       diversity, but he has held his ground.

        20                  Senator Bonacic said that policies

        21       are set by the Governor.  And so the Governor

        22       will be very involved in how not only the DEC

        23       but the Department of State will respond on

        24       this very, very critical issue to not only the

        25       First Senate District but Suffolk County.


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         1                  And I know that Pete Grannis as the

         2       DEC commissioner will make the strongest

         3       possible case to oppose this project.  Every

         4       environmental group opposes it.  Every elected

         5       official in the first Senate district opposes

         6       this project.  It is a dangerous project.  It

         7       is a bad project environmentally.  So I want

         8       someone in that position who has the

         9       intelligence, the ethical and moral standards

        10       to stand up and do the right thing.

        11                  He mentioned in the Finance

        12       Committee that this will be the first time

        13       that a legislator will occupy this position as

        14       commissioner of the DEC.  And so there was a

        15       myriad of questions from upstate, the Hudson

        16       Valley, downstate.  And so I believe that he

        17       will use the 32 years that he has served in

        18       the Legislature to understand when one of the

        19       members in this house or the other house comes

        20       to the DEC, and he will balance his decision

        21       in a way that will give the best possible shot

        22       for us to represent our constituents.

        23                  So, Pete, I wish you very good

        24       luck.  I know that you and I will have lots of

        25       dialogue on environmental issues.  And I know


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         1       that you will make that agency run correctly.

         2                  Just in closing, many years ago the

         3       DEC in my district was not always a favored

         4       agency.  People, homeowners, small-business

         5       people were just irritated by decisions coming

         6       out of the regional office.

         7                  And so myself and at that time my

         8       two Assemblymembers, during a political

         9       campaign, came up with what was one of the

        10       most popular radio ads.  Someone comes on the

        11       commercial and says:  "There are initials that

        12       strike fear in the hearts of men -- the IRS,

        13       the FBI, the DEC."

        14                  I will say that a lot of very

        15       positive things have happened in the last

        16       15 years when that commercial was made.  And I

        17       hope that you will both enjoy and be strident

        18       in representing our environment and the people

        19       that use the environment, such as our

        20       sportsmen.

        21                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you,

        23       Senator LaValle.

        24                  And the chair stands corrected.

        25       Senator Stavisky has advised the chair that


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         1       Alexander Hamilton was born on the island of

         2       Nevis, and it is affirmed by Google.

         3                  (Laughter.)

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

         5       nomination, Senator Stachowski.

         6                  SENATOR STACHOWSKI:    I'm just

         7       glad for the history lesson, among other

         8       things that I've learned today.

         9                  I rise too to support the

        10       nomination of Pete Grannis, not somebody

        11       that's supported strongly by all the

        12       sportsmen's groups.  This was an interesting

        13       situation I found myself in.

        14                  But in talking to Pete, reading up

        15       on his background, getting reports back on the

        16       Environmental Committee and the questioning,

        17       and then sitting through the Finance

        18       Committee, I have no doubt that he has

        19       answered all the questions on whether he is

        20       against hunting and fishing.

        21                  The interesting thing, as was said

        22       in the committee, hunting is not about guns,

        23       it's about a way of life.  If you had taken

        24       the time to read the speech that Pete Grannis

        25       made to the conservation group a few weeks


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         1       back, you would have seen that he hunted

         2       different game with his father and brothers,

         3       and that one of the great thrills and memories

         4       of his life is the look on his father's face

         5       when he got his first buck -- with a bow, as

         6       opposed to a gun.

         7                  Which, for those people that aren't

         8       familiar with hunting, is much more difficult.

         9       And maybe that's why some of the hunters don't

        10       like Pete, because he did get it with a bow

        11       and not with a gun.

        12                  I also found it interesting that he

        13       answered the questions on trapping.  I think

        14       that's very important.  He still is an avid

        15       fisherman, so the fisherman can't really be

        16       opposed to him.

        17                  I happen to agree with Senator

        18       LaValle that if you're going to have an issue

        19       that it's going to be important that the

        20       commissioner is going to be fighting on, as

        21       we've seen through the years here in Albany,

        22       nobody fights harder on something they believe

        23       in than Pete Grannis.  And I think that

        24       includes all of us.  He's the equivalent of

        25       anybody as far as determination when he


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         1       believes he's in the right.

         2                  I think that we all appreciate the

         3       fight he did on clean air, and I think he'll

         4       do the same on our air in general.  I think

         5       that he'll be a great advocate for all those

         6       colleagues of mine that are from the city that

         7       worry about the particulars that cause the

         8       aggravation of asthma.  I can't really say

         9       that those particulars cause asthma, because

        10       the last I've ever read, I don't think anybody

        11       knows what causes asthma yet.  So that's kind

        12       of an interesting concept, but that's reality.

        13                  I think the fact is that all of us

        14       as legislators, the one thing we look for in a

        15       commissioner is when we have a problem in our

        16       district and we go to the commissioner, we

        17       want the commissioner to hear us, to

        18       understand what the problem is, and to get

        19       back to us with an answer.

        20                  I have every belief that Pete

        21       Grannis will get back to us with an answer.  I

        22       don't know that it will be answer we want to

        23       hear, but at least we'll get an answer.  And

        24       that's not always the case with a lot of

        25       commissioners.


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         1                  So to my mind, he's answered all

         2       the questions that people wrote me about as

         3       far as their concerns.  He's covered all the

         4       areas that I had an interest in besides the

         5       ones that were written from people that said

         6       you should vote against him because of this,

         7       this and this, and I think he answered all of

         8       those.

         9                  And I also think I will have a

        10       responsive commissioner, somebody I'll be able

        11       to work with over the years.  And I look

        12       forward to having those opportunities.

        13                  I support Pete Grannis.  Thank you.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you,

        15       Senator Stachowski.

        16                  The chair now recognizes the

        17       ubiquitous Senator Stavisky.

        18                  SENATOR STAVISKY:    Thank you,

        19       Mr. President.  I've been called a lot of

        20       things; that's the first time "ubiquitous" was

        21       ever used.

        22                  I'm delighted to rise in support of

        23       Assemblyman Grannis's confirmation.  He brings

        24       a sensitivity and understanding of the

        25       legislative process, as well as a deep and


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         1       profound knowledge of the issues -- not only

         2       the environment, but everything else upon

         3       which it impacts.

         4                  I represent a district in Queens

         5       which has a great deal of construction going

         6       on, expansion, with many environmental issues,

         7       particularly concerning water quality and

         8       brownfields in, particularly, the

         9       Flushing-Corona area.  And I'm sure he will

        10       understand these issues.  And yet he brings,

        11       in addition, an understanding of what's

        12       important not only to my district in Queens

        13       but to all parts of the state.

        14                  I thought his answers to the

        15       questions today in the Finance Committee were

        16       extremely impressive.  He listened.  He

        17       understood.  And he will be fair.  And I think

        18       that's really all we can ask of a candidate.

        19                  So I congratulate Pete Grannis.

        20       And I think I've known him the entire 32 years

        21       that he's been here.  And I look forward to

        22       working with him in the days ahead.

        23                  And incidentally, Mr. President,

        24       Alexander Hamilton was also a Regent of the

        25       State of New York.


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         1                  (Laughter.)

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

         3       nomination, Senator Larkin.

         4                  SENATOR LARKIN:    Thank you,

         5       Mr. President.

         6                  You know, I've known Peter for

         7       28 years, as I said in the Finance Committee.

         8       Have we agreed on everything?  No.  I like

         9       West Point, and he likes some other school.

        10                  But have I always found Peter to be

        11       willing to discuss with you?  When he came to

        12       my office, he said:  "I know you have

        13       problems."  We do have problems.  Everyone in

        14       this room has problems.  But we're confirming

        15       someone who's going to enter into an office,

        16       he knows every one of us, he's worked with us

        17       in one form or another of a committee.

        18                  Some of my colleagues, Neil Breslin

        19       and I have had an opportunity to work with him

        20       on a national thing, on insurance.  Always

        21       found him willing to take that extra step.

        22                  But let's remember, when you go to

        23       an agency and you want to talk to him about

        24       something -- I heard someone in the hallway

        25       the other day said:  "You know,I voted against


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         1       DiNapoli, but I've had to call him twice.

         2       Guess what?  He called me back."  I expect

         3       that's the same thing we'll get from Peter.

         4                  He's not being nominated to be the

         5       pope, he's being nominated to take an agency

         6       and deal with it.  I can tell you in my

         7       district, as I said in Finance, I have

         8       outstanding working relationships with the

         9       region.  And I expect that, as some of my

        10       colleagues said today, that they expect to be

        11       able to work with Peter.

        12                  But remember, he knows us.  He

        13       knows that we have problems that he's dealt

        14       with, maybe in another facet of it.  Maybe it

        15       was an opposite to what we wanted.  But he is

        16       going to deal with those as he sees best,

        17       because he's got a job to do.

        18                  He's got a challenge to do.  He's

        19       going to get the bodies that he needs to do

        20       them with.  And I'm very confident that he's

        21       going to represent the Governor, he's going to

        22       represent the interests, and he's going to

        23       work with us.  Because if he don't, he'll hear

        24       from us.

        25                  Congratulations, Pete.  You've


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         1       earned it.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

         3       nomination, Senator Padavan.

         4                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Thank you,

         5       Mr. President.

         6                  You know, while you were trying to

         7       decide where Alexander Hamilton had as his

         8       origin, where he came from, I was reminded of

         9       that fact that perhaps the greatest

        10       environmentalist and the greatest

        11       sportsman-hunter that this state ever produced

        12       came from Manhattan, raised and born there.

        13       His name was Teddy Roosevelt.

        14                  So the notion that Manhattan is a

        15       foreign place to those who have an interest in

        16       recreation that relates to fishing and hunting

        17       and trapping and that sort is just

        18       historically incorrect.

        19                  Also, when Senator LaValle was

        20       talking, it came to me that it's a delight

        21       that the Governor now feels an Assemblyman can

        22       do a great job in a statewide position.  No

        23       reaction.

        24                  (Laughter.)

        25                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    I've known Pete


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         1       Grannis, like many of you have, for a number

         2       of years.  We worked together on some very,

         3       very significant legislation, and we got to

         4       know each other on a personal basis because of

         5       that.

         6                  And I can say without any doubt

         7       that all of you who have indicated that his

         8       motivation, his sincerity, his commitment is

         9       unquestionable.  And that this job, this

        10       position is something that is, to him, perhaps

        11       one of the greatest things that's happened in

        12       his career.  This is something he really

        13       wanted to do and wants to do.

        14                  So when you put those things

        15       together, a committed individual who's being

        16       appointed to a position that was a goal of

        17       his, a long-standing desire of his, there's no

        18       doubt that he will be successful.  And I'm

        19       sure all of us will find that out in due time,

        20       even those who have some questions about one

        21       issue or the other that relates to that

        22       agency.

        23                  It will be my honor and privilege

        24       to vote in the affirmative.

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         1       nomination, Senator Perkins.

         2                  SENATOR PERKINS:    Thank you very

         3       much.  I just want to briefly lend my voice to

         4       those who support Pete for this position.

         5                  You know, he has a vision for those

         6       of us who are very concerned about

         7       environmental justice.  We know that we have a

         8       friend in Pete Grannis from that point of

         9       view, because we know that there are

        10       communities not only in our city but

        11       throughout this state that are suffering from

        12       conditions that are aggravating the health of

        13       children and the health of families.  And that

        14       he will be there with a vision of

        15       environmental justice, with a vision of trying

        16       to remedy those problems.

        17                  And we also know that he will not

        18       just serve legislators.  We know that he will

        19       continue to have that very special common

        20       touch that we've come to know about him as

        21       we've been working with him over the years in

        22       our communities, in his own community.

        23                  So I think that he will be the kind

        24       of commissioner that will be accessible, that

        25       will be visionary, that will be bold, the kind


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         1       of commissioner that we will all be proud to

         2       have been associated with before he became the

         3       commissioner and even more so now that he has

         4       become the commissioner.

         5                  So in the words of those who were

         6       so committed to his candidacy:  "Free Pete."

         7                  (Laughter.)

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

         9       nomination, Senator Hannon.

        10                  SENATOR HANNON:    Thank you,

        11       Mr. President.

        12                  As I was looking over Assemblyman

        13       Grannis's resume and looking at the long list

        14       of legislative accomplishments, I was

        15       reflecting upon the intellectual intensity he

        16       and I have had over the past two decades,

        17       cochairs or respective chairs of the Housing

        18       Committee and things on the budget committee

        19       in regard to health.

        20                  But it also struck me -- and the

        21       point I just wanted to add was the experience

        22       of being a legislator, the experience of

        23       working legislation that affects every part of

        24       this state is truly a great background for

        25       becoming a commissioner of DEC, for moving on


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         1       to a managerial position.  No one can really

         2       know the type of learning experience, the type

         3       of consultation experience that one has as a

         4       legislator.

         5                  And I'm glad the Governor has

         6       recognized that, that great can come out of

         7       this legislative experience.  I commend him on

         8       his selection of Mr. Grannis to be

         9       commissioner of the Department of

        10       Environmental Conservation.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

        12       nomination, Senator Montgomery.

        13                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes,

        14       Mr. President, thank you.

        15                  I rise to congratulate Pete

        16       Grannis, Commissioner Grannis.  I knew him as

        17       Pete long before I knew him as Alexander, and

        18       I thought we had the wrong name for a while.

        19                  I want to just acknowledge also

        20       that I have a relationship with Pete's son.

        21       He is a wonderful dad.  And his son and my son

        22       played together at some point in time,

        23       cavorting in the museum.  We would meet once a

        24       year.  And he had the best handshake of any

        25       youngster that I had ever met.  So I'm happy


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         1       that he is here to witness his dad.

         2                  And also I want to say to Pete the

         3       people in my district, the people who are

         4       concerned about many issues are very happy

         5       that we are here today to confirm you, because

         6       we have some very, very difficult

         7       environmental issues, and we look forward to

         8       working with you.

         9                  As you perhaps know, some of the

        10       worst "hot spots" in the nation are in my

        11       district.  And they're caused by a tremendous

        12       overburden of traffic, which we have to live

        13       with every day.

        14                  We have a huge problem with

        15       contaminated -- with the combined sewage

        16       overflow.  Some of the people in parts of my

        17       district and parts of Senator Connor's

        18       district have a tremendous problem every time

        19       it rains.  And we're looking for a plan that

        20       has to involve both the state and the city as

        21       well as the federal government.

        22                  We have a number of contaminated

        23       waste sites.  And we really are looking

        24       forward to being able to work with you on some

        25       of these difficult issues.


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         1                  So I congratulate you, I

         2       congratulate your family.  And we all of us,

         3       even people who have expressed whatever

         4       negative issues they've raised, I think that

         5       the sentiment overall is that this is a very,

         6       very large task and we certainly look forward

         7       to being partners with you as you try to

         8       fulfill your role.  Congratulations.

         9                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        10                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

        11       nomination, Senator Duane, to close for the

        12       minority.

        13                  SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you,

        14       Mr. President.

        15                  You know, when I first saw the

        16       Assemblymember's name come up on the agenda, I

        17       thought it was sort of an early cruel April

        18       Fool's joke.  But in fact it was a piece of

        19       good news that was being announced with the

        20       agenda.

        21                  I have to say that when I first

        22       came to Albany and discovered that majority

        23       members don't always welcome minority

        24       sponsorship of their legislation, I thought it

        25       was frankly weird.  And I looked to see who


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         1       didn't act that way legislatively, and I saw

         2       that Assemblymember Grannis was one of the

         3       distinct few who worked in a bipartisan manner

         4       in the Legislature.  And I thought that that

         5       was great.

         6                  I have seen things in our state

         7       from the beauty of our beaches on Long Island

         8       to the majesty of the Adirondacks and, sadly,

         9       things like the devastation of the floods that

        10       have impacted the Southern Tier.  And I have

        11       to say that if Assemblymember Grannis is

        12       anywhere near as good as he has been as an

        13       Assemblymember, we're going to have a pretty

        14       darn fine person looking over the environment

        15       for this administration.  And I know that he

        16       is going to do a great job.

        17                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you very

        19       much, Senator Duane.

        20                  Our apologies; we did not recognize

        21       Senator Connor.  The chair recognizes Senator

        22       Connor on the nomination at this time.

        23                  SENATOR CONNOR:    Thank you,

        24       Mr. President.

        25                  Mr. President, you were probably


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         1       thinking of Alexander Hamilton's mother, who

         2       was from St. Croix, and left an abusive

         3       husband and went to Nevis, where she met

         4       Alexander Hamilton's father.  Of course, he

         5       later went to Kingston, Jamaica, and worked on

         6       the docks, a 16-year-old, and so impressed the

         7       businessmen that they took up a collection to

         8       send him to New York for a fine education.

         9                  I was first elected 29 years and

        10       seven weeks ago and assigned to Room 415 in

        11       the LOB.  And my next-door neighbor was Pete

        12       Grannis.  And this was very, very fortunate

        13       for me, because I was under firm instructions

        14       from my then district leader, who was the

        15       director of the Environmental Action

        16       Coalition, which I believe Pete had founded,

        17       to, you know, "as soon as you get to Albany,

        18       talk to Pete Grannis."

        19                  So I did, and we had many, many

        20       conversations over the years about issues.

        21                  You know, newer colleagues have

        22       said to me:  What are these things?  What are

        23       these things in the desks?  And, you know, for

        24       many years after I got here this chamber was

        25       smoke-filled.  At one time certainly a


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         1       majority, an overwhelming majority of the

         2       members would sit here during session smoking

         3       cigars, pipes, and cigarettes.  And members

         4       look at me in shock.  That's the way it was.

         5                  And my next-door neighbor, Pete

         6       Grannis, one day said to me:  "Hey, I've got

         7       this new bill I'm going to put in, the Clean

         8       Indoor Air Act."  I said, "What's that?"  He

         9       said, "It's going to ban smoking indoors."

        10                  I said:  "Pete, you know, I agree

        11       with most of the stuff you do; I'm another

        12       liberal reformer from New York City.  But that

        13       one will never fly.  It will never happen,

        14       never, ever.  The public won't go for it."

        15                  So Pete was way ahead of the curve.

        16       And he was very effective and persistent, not

        17       just with that bill but with the other

        18       significant legislation that Pete has guided

        19       through this Legislature and negotiated

        20       through this Legislature over the years.

        21                  And I do want to correct something,

        22       though.  I thought Peter Berle was an

        23       Assemblyman before he was the DEC

        24       commissioner, and I believe he was Pete's

        25       predecessor in the Assembly.  So Pete is not


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         1       the first time, he's just the first time in a

         2       long, long, long time that we -- since we have

         3       had a legislator appointed to this position.

         4                  But, you know, being a legislator,

         5       you know, in the current atmosphere out there

         6       for the last year or two, there seems to be

         7       this tendency in the press or elsewhere to

         8       denigrate the service we do, to denigrate the

         9       way legislators perform their duties and

        10       functions.  But I happen to think that among

        11       the best qualifications and experiences to

        12       have are to have all of those years of

        13       effectiveness as a legislator.

        14                  Because it requires not just

        15       intellect -- which Pete has -- and not just

        16       imagination and thoughtfulness and a

        17       forward-looking nature -- which Pete has --

        18       but it also requires a skill which many of us

        19       have in this Legislature, in both houses,

        20       where we certainly hone and refine it over our

        21       years of service here.  If you don't have it

        22       when you get here, if you're here long enough

        23       and you're going to be successful, you will

        24       have it.

        25                  And that's the ability to listen to


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         1       others, to reason with people, to be sensitive

         2       to the public's concerns and to address them,

         3       all the while keep your eye on the ball and

         4       discharging your obligations.  And I can't

         5       think of skills or experiences that more

         6       qualify someone to be commissioner of DEC.

         7                  I think the storm that certain

         8       quarters brought against this nominee was

         9       grossly unfair.  It was based on a view of

        10       people in New York City -- Senator

        11       Padavan's -- Senator Padavan's here.  You

        12       know, not everybody in New York City is

        13       against hunting.  I have a license in my

        14       pocket.  I grew up, and I've said this many

        15       times before here, I grew up hunting.  My

        16       grandfather first took me hunting, and I've

        17       been in the city for a long, long time.  And I

        18       think that misapprehension of some of the

        19       positions we sometimes take on behalf of our

        20       constituents is unfortunate.

        21                  And I admit some of us from the

        22       city do the same thing, same thing with

        23       respect to some upstate concerns.  Once upon a

        24       time we had a Governor -- I won't go into

        25       it -- who characterized hunters as having


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         1       something to do with six-packs of beer,

         2       whatever.

         3                  But the fact is, we are one state.

         4       Pete Grannis will be an excellent DEC

         5       commissioner.  He brings a wealth of

         6       experience both in the political realm and the

         7       substantive realm of dealing with

         8       environmental issues.  His career began early

         9       on as an environmental lawyer.  He will make

        10       this state proud.

        11                  I congratulate the Governor on this

        12       appointment, and I am proud to support the

        13       confirmation of this nominee.

        14                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you,

        16       Senator Connor.

        17                  Are there any other Senators that

        18       would like to speak on the nomination?  If so,

        19       please indicate.

        20                  Hearing none, the question is on

        21       the nomination of Alexander Pete Grannis, of

        22       New York County, as Commissioner of the

        23       New York State Department of Environmental

        24       Conservation.

        25                  All those in favor please indicate


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         1       so by saying aye.

         2                  (Response of "Aye.")

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    All those

         4       opposed, nay.

         5                  (Response of "Nay.")

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    The chair

         7       recognizes Senator Libous.

         8                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

         9       could I have the record reflect that my vote

        10       is in the negative on this nominee.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    The record will

        12       so reflect.

        13                  Any others wishing to vote no may

        14       raise their hands, and we will record their

        15       names.

        16                  The Secretary will read the names

        17       of those who have raised their hands.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Recorded in the

        19       negative are Senators Farley, Griffo, Lanza,

        20       Leibell, Libous, Little, Maltese, Nozzolio,

        21       Rath, Robach, Seward, Valesky, Volker, Winner,

        22       Wright, Young.  Also Senator DeFrancisco.

        23       Also Senator Maziarz.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    The nominee is

        25       confirmed.


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         1                  (Extended applause.)

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Alexander Pete

         3       Grannis, you are hereby confirmed as

         4       Commissioner of the Department of

         5       Environmental Conservation.

         6                  Pete Grannis is joined in the

         7       gallery by his wife, Ainslie, by his Albany

         8       staff, and by his staff from the Upper East

         9       Side of Manhattan, who came here without

        10       compensation to bear witness to his

        11       appointment.

        12                  He has served for over 30 years

        13       with distinction, steadfast discipline and

        14       critical honesty in the Assembly, and we wish

        15       you well in your new role as Commissioner of

        16       DEC.  Congratulations.

        17                  (Applause.)

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    The chair

        19       recognizes Senator Libous.

        20                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

        21       can we go to motions and resolutions for the

        22       adoption of the Resolution Calendar, please.

        23                  THE PRESIDENT:    Motions and

        24       resolutions.

        25                  All those in favor of adopting the


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         1       Resolution Calendar please indicate so by

         2       saying aye.

         3                  (Response of "Aye.")

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

         5                  (No response.)

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Resolution

         7       Calendar is adopted.

         8                  Senator Libous.

         9                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

        10       there will be an immediate meeting of the

        11       Senate Majority in Room 332.

        12                  And the Senate will stand at ease.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    There will be an

        14       immediate meeting of the Senate Majority in

        15       Room 332.

        16                  The chair recognizes Senator Duane.

        17                  SENATOR DUANE:    Mr. President,

        18       would you call on Senator Martin Malave Dilan,

        19       please.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    I'm sorry, I'm

        21       having a little trouble hearing Senator Duane.

        22       Can we have order in the house.

        23                  Senator Duane.

        24                  SENATOR DUANE:    Mr. President,

        25       would you recognize Senator Martin Malave


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         1       Dilan, please.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Dilan.

         3                  SENATOR DILAN:    Mr. President,

         4       there will be a meeting of the Minority at

         5       8:00 p.m. in Room 315.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    There will be a

         7       meeting of the Minority in Room 315 at

         8       8:00 p.m.

         9                  The Senate stands at ease.

        10                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        11       ease at 5:58 p.m.)

        12                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        13       at 9:03 p.m.)

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:    Senator

        15       Skelos.

        16                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        17       there will be an immediate conference of the

        18       Majority in the Majority Conference Room.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT FARLEY:    There

        20       will be an immediate conference of the

        21       Majority in the Majority Conference Room.

        22                  The Senate will stand at ease.

        23                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        24       ease at 9:04 p.m.)

        25                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened


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         1       at 10:12 p.m.)

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Bruno.

         3                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President,

         4       can we at this time call an immediate meeting

         5       of the Finance Committee in the Majority

         6       Conference Room.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    We are certainly

         8       going to call an immediate meeting of the

         9       Finance Committee in the Majority Conference

        10       Room.

        11                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Thank you,

        12       Mr. President.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you,

        14       Mr. Leader.

        15                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        16       ease at 10:13 p.m.)

        17                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        18       at 10:32 p.m.)

        19                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        21       Senator Bruno.

        22                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President,

        23       can we return to reports of standing

        24       committees.

        25                  I believe there's a report from the


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         1       Finance Committee at the desk.  I would ask

         2       that it be read at this time.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         4       Secretary will read.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator O.

         6       Johnson, from the Committee on Finance,

         7       reports the following bills:

         8                  Senate Print 2100D, Senate Budget

         9       Bill, an act making appropriations for the

        10       support of government;

        11                  2101B, Senate Budget Bill, an act

        12       making appropriations for the support of

        13       government;

        14                  2105D, Senate Budget Bill, an act

        15       making appropriations for the support of

        16       government;

        17                  2106C, Senate Budget Bill, an act

        18       to specify;

        19                  2108C, Senate Budget Bill, an act

        20       to amend the New York Healthcare Reform Act of

        21       1996;

        22                  2109C, Senate Budget Bill, an act

        23       to authorize funding;

        24                  And Senate Print 4090, by the

        25       Senate Committee on Rules, an act to amend


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         1       Chapter 57 of the Laws of 2005.

         2                  All bills ordered direct to third

         3       reading.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         5       Without objection, all bills direct to third

         6       reading.

         7                  Senator Bruno.

         8                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President,

         9       can we at this time take up the bills that are

        10       reported from Finance in regular order.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        12       Secretary will read.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        14       297, Senate Budget Bill, Senate Print 2100D,

        15       an act making appropriations for the support

        16       of government, PUBLIC PROTECTION AND GENERAL

        17       GOVERNMENT BUDGET.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        19       Senator Bruno.

        20                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President, is

        21       there a message from the Governor at the desk?

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Yes,

        23       there is, Senator Bruno.

        24                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President,

        25       move to accept the message.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         2       motion is to accept the message.  All in favor

         3       say aye.

         4                  (Response of "Aye.")

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         6       Opposed, nay.

         7                  (No response.)

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         9       message is accepted.

        10                  Read the last section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

        14       the roll.

        15                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        17       Announce the results.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        20       bill is passed.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        22       298, Senate Budget Bill, Senate Print 2101B,

        23       an act making appropriations for the support

        24       of government, LEGISLATURE AND JUDICIARY

        25       BUDGET.


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         1                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Is there a

         2       message of necessity at the desk?

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Yes,

         4       there is, Senator.

         5                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Move to accept.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         7       motion is to accept the message.  All in favor

         8       signify by saying aye.

         9                  (Response of "Aye.")

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        11       Opposed, nay.

        12                  (No response.)

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        14       message is accepted.

        15                  The Secretary will read the last

        16       section.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

        18       act shall take effect immediately.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

        20       the roll.

        21                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        23       Announce the results.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The


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         1       bill is passed.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         3       301, Senate Budget Bill, Senate Print 2105D,

         4       an act making appropriations for the support

         5       of government, TRANSPORTATION, ECONOMIC

         6       DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION

         7       BUDGET.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         9       Senator Bruno.

        10                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President, is

        11       there a message of necessity at the desk?

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Yes,

        13       there is, Senator.

        14                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Move to accept

        15       the message.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        17       motion is to accept the message.  All in favor

        18       say aye.

        19                  (Response of "Aye.")

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        21       Opposed, nay.

        22                  (No response.)

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        24       message is accepted.

        25                  Read the last section.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         2       act shall take effect immediately.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

         4       the roll.

         5                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         7       Announce the results.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        10       bill is passed.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        12       302, Senate Budget Bill, Senate Print 2106C,

        13       an act to specify the manner of distribution.

        14                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Is there a

        15       message of necessity at the desk,

        16       Mr. President?

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Yes,

        18       there is, Senator Bruno.

        19                  SENATOR BRUNO:    I would move to

        20       accept the message.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    On the

        22       motion to accept the message, all in favor say

        23       aye.

        24                  (Response of "Aye.")

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:


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         1       Opposed, nay.

         2                  (No response.)

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         4       message is accepted.

         5                  Read the last section.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

         7       act shall take effect immediately.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

         9       the roll.

        10                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        12       Announce the results.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        15       bill is passed.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        17       304, Senate Budget Bill, Senate Print 2109C,

        18       an act to authorize funding for the

        19       Consolidated Local Street and Highway

        20       Improvement Program.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        22       Senator Bruno.

        23                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President, is

        24       there a message of necessity at the desk?

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Yes,


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         1       there is, Senator.

         2                  SENATOR BRUNO:    I would move that

         3       we accept the message.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    On the

         5       motion to accept the message, all in favor say

         6       aye.

         7                  (Response of "Aye.")

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         9       Opposed, nay.

        10                  (No response.)

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        12       message is accepted.

        13                  Read the last section.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 18.  This

        15       act shall take effect immediately.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

        17       the roll.

        18                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        20       Announce the results.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        23       bill is passed.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        25       480, Senate Budget Bill, Senate Print 2108C,


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         1       an act to amend the New York Healthcare Reform

         2       Act of 1996.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         4       Senator Bruno.

         5                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President, is

         6       there a message of necessity at the desk?

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Yes,

         8       there is, Senator.

         9                  SENATOR BRUNO:    I would move that

        10       we accept the message.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        12       motion is to accept the message of necessity

        13       from the Governor.  All in favor say aye.

        14                  (Response of "Aye.")

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        16       Opposed, nay.

        17                  (No response.)

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        19       message is accepted.

        20                  Read the last section.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        22       act shall take effect immediately.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

        24       the roll.

        25                  (The Secretary called the roll.)


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         2       Announce the results.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         5       bill is passed.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         7       481, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

         8       Print Number 4090, an act to amend Chapter 57

         9       of the Laws of 2005, amending the Education

        10       Law.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Read

        12       the last section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 11.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

        16       the roll.

        17                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.  Nays,

        19       1.  Senator LaValle recorded in the negative.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        21       bill is passed.

        22                  Senator Bruno, that completes the

        23       calendar.

        24                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President,

        25       handling the people's work as expeditiously as


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         1       we just did, we now should stand at ease until

         2       11:45, when we hopefully will have two more of

         3       the budget bills that are in the process of

         4       being printed.

         5                  And at that time we will call a

         6       Finance meeting, come back in, hopefully pass

         7       those bills.

         8                  And then the intent is, since the

         9       other two budget bills will not be printed

        10       until early tomorrow morning, that we will

        11       gavel out, gavel back in, and then reconvene

        12       tomorrow, early, to finish the budget process

        13       that we have started.

        14                  We have no other bills to come

        15       before us at this time, so I would move that

        16       we stand in recess until 11:45.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        18       Senate will stand at ease until 11:45.

        19                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        20       ease at 10:40 p.m.)

        21                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        22       at 11:51 p.m.)

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        24       Senator Bruno.

        25                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Good evening,


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         1       Mr. President.

         2                  Mr. President, can we at this time

         3       have an immediate meeting of the Finance

         4       Committee in the Majority Conference Room.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Yes,

         6       you can.

         7                  There will be an immediate meeting

         8       of the Finance Committee in the Majority

         9       Conference Room.

        10                  The Senate will stand at ease.

        11                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        12       ease at 11:52 p.m.)

        13                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        14       at 11:58 p.m.)

        15                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        17       Senator Bruno.

        18                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President,

        19       can we at this time return to reports of

        20       standing committees.

        21                  Senator Robach, would you take your

        22       seat?  Thank you.

        23                  Mr. President, we need order in the

        24       chamber.  It is two minutes before midnight.

        25       We're about to lose March 31st.


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         1                  I would ask that the report from

         2       the Finance Committee at this time be read and

         3       move for its adoption.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         5       Secretary will read.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator O.

         7       Johnson, from the Committee on Finance,

         8       reports the following bill direct to third

         9       reading:

        10                  Senate Print 2104D, Senate Budget

        11       Bill, an act making appropriations for the

        12       support of government.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    On

        14       motion to accept the report, all in favor

        15       signify by saying aye.

        16                  (Response of "Aye.")

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        18       Opposed, nay.

        19                  (No response.)

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        21       report is accepted.

        22                  Senator Bruno.

        23                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President,

        24       can we at this time take up Calendar Number

        25       333.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

         2       Secretary will read.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         4       333, Senate Budget Bill, Senate Print 2104D,

         5       an act making appropriations for the support

         6       of government, HEALTH AND MENTAL HYGIENE

         7       BUDGET.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         9       Senator Bruno.

        10                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President, is

        11       there a message of necessity at the desk?

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Yes,

        13       there is, Senator.

        14                  SENATOR BRUNO:    I move we accept

        15       the message.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    On the

        17       motion to accept the message, all in favor say

        18       aye.

        19                  (Response of "Aye.")

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

        21       Opposed, nay.

        22                  (No response.)

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        24       message is accepted.

        25                  Read the last section.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         2       act shall take effect immediately.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    Call

         4       the roll.

         5                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:

         7       Announce the results.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 61.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    The

        10       bill is passed.

        11                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Mr. President, is

        12       there any other business that we should be

        13       taking up on March 31st?

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    No,

        15       Senator, there is not.

        16                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Well,

        17       Mr. President, there being no further business

        18       to come before the Senate on March 31st, I

        19       would move that we stand adjourned until

        20       April 1, at 12:02 a.m.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT MORAHAN:    On

        22       motion, the Senate stands adjourned until

        23       April 1st, at 12:02 p.m.

        24                  (Whereupon, at 12:01 a.m., the

        25       Senate adjourned.)


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