Regular Session - June 5, 2007

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         1                 NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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         4                THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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         9                   ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                     June 5, 2007

        11                       3:19 p.m.

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        14                    REGULAR SESSION

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        18  LT. GOVERNOR DAVID A. PATERSON, President

        19  STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

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         1                 P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Senate will

         3       come to order.

         4                  Would all assembled please rise and

         5       join me in reciting our Pledge of Allegiance.

         6                  (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

         7       the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    Our invocation

         9       today will be delivered by the Reverend John

        10       Morgan, of the International Baptist Church of

        11       Brooklyn.

        12                  REVEREND MORGAN:    Thank you.  And

        13       let's pray.

        14                  Our Heavenly Father, we are

        15       grateful for the goodness of the Lord in the

        16       land of the living.

        17                  We're grateful for these Senators,

        18       for the politicians that you have put into

        19       office.  The Bible is clear that You have put

        20       men in, and You can take them out.  But You

        21       put these here.  I pray that You will give

        22       each one wisdom that only comes from God.

        23                  The Bible says if you like wisdom,

        24       ask of God and He'll give it to you liberally.

        25       So I pray You'll give these Senators great


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         1       wisdom, the wisdom of God to run our state.

         2                  Help our national politicians.  The

         3       Bible tells us to pray for all of our

         4       politicians.  I pray for them.  I pray You'll

         5       give them wisdom.

         6                  And I pray, because of Your working

         7       in and through these people, that we will have

         8       laws that will protect us.  The Bible says

         9       safety is of the Lord.  We know that You are

        10       the one that protects.  But You work through

        11       human beings.  And so I pray that You will

        12       help us to have the kind of laws to protect us

        13       in all ways.

        14                  I pray that provision would be ours

        15       as well.  What a great nation we have.  Thank

        16       You for growing up in America, for being in

        17       America.  And I pray You'll continue to make

        18       our nation great.

        19                  And I pray that You'll bless these

        20       Senators' families now -- their wives, their

        21       children.  I know that they go through trying

        22       times because of having a husband or a wife in

        23       politics.  So I want You to bless the families

        24       of these politicians.  Protect them.  Provide

        25       for them.


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         1                  And, Lord, may Your will be done

         2       for our nation, for our state.  I pray it

         3       today in Jesus' name.  Amen.

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you, Pastor

         5       Morgan, for those wonderful thoughts.

         6                  The reading of the Journal.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

         8       Monday, June 4, the Senate met pursuant to

         9       adjournment.  The Journal of Sunday, June 3,

        10       was read and approved.  On motion, Senate

        11       adjourned.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    Without

        13       objection, the Journal stands approved as

        14       read.

        15                  Presentation of petitions.

        16                  Messages from the Assembly.

        17                  Messages from the Governor.

        18                  Reports of standing committees.

        19                  Reports of select committees.

        20                  Communications and reports from

        21       state officers.

        22                  Motions and resolutions.

        23                  Senator Nozzolio.

        24                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Thank you,

        25       Mr. President.


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         1                  I wish to call up Print Number

         2       1773, on behalf of Senator Saland, recalled

         3       from the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

         5       will read.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         7       96, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 1773, an

         8       act to amend the Education Law.

         9                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Mr. President,

        10       I now move to reconsider the vote by which the

        11       bill was passed.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll on

        13       reconsideration.

        14                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 41.

        16                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Mr. President,

        17       I now offer the following amendments on behalf

        18       of Senator Saland.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

        20       are received and adopted, Senator Nozzolio.

        21                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Mr. President,

        22       on page 4 I offer the following amendments to

        23       Calendar Number 71, on behalf of Senator

        24       Trunzo, Print Number 1262, and ask that said

        25       bill retain its place on Third Reading


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         1       Calendar.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

         3       are received and adopted, Senator Nozzolio.

         4       The bill will retain its place on the Third

         5       Reading Calendar.

         6                  The chair recognizes Senator

         7       Little.

         8                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Thank you,

         9       Mr. President.

        10                  On behalf of Senator DeFrancisco,

        11       on page number 31 I offer the following

        12       amendments to Calendar Number 842, Senate

        13       Print Number 4878, and ask that said bill

        14       retain its place on Third Reading Calendar.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    Those amendments

        16       are received and adopted, and the bill will

        17       retain its place on the Third Reading

        18       Calendar.

        19                  Thank you, Senator Little.

        20                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Thank you,

        21       Mr. President.

        22                  On behalf of Senator Young, on page

        23       number 33, I offer the following amendments to

        24       Calendar Number 871, Senate Print Number 5579,

        25       and ask that said bill retain its place on the


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         1       Third Reading Calendar.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

         3       are received and adopted.  The bill will

         4       retain its place on the Third Reading

         5       Calendar.

         6                  Senator Little.

         7                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Thank you,

         8       Mr. President.

         9                  On behalf of Senator Rath, on page

        10       number 40 I offer the following amendments to

        11       Calendar Number 988, Senate Print Number 5194,

        12       and ask that said bill retain its place on

        13       Third Reading Calendar.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Said bill will

        15       retain its place on the Third Reading

        16       Calendar, and the amendments are received and

        17       adopted.

        18                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Thank you.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Skelos.

        20                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President, I

        21       believe there are substitutions to be made at

        22       this time.

        23                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        24       will read.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    On page 34,


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         1       Senator Morahan moves to discharge, from the

         2       Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 3568

         3       and substitute it for the identical Senate

         4       Bill Number 5398, Third Reading Calendar 917.

         5                  On page 36, Senator Young moves to

         6       discharge, from the Committee on Agriculture,

         7       Assembly Bill Number 7232A and substitute it

         8       for the identical Senate Bill Number 4455A,

         9       Third Reading Calendar 945.

        10                  On page 36, Senator Young moves to

        11       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        12       Assembly Bill Number 7339 and substitute it

        13       for the identical Senate Bill Number 5580,

        14       Third Reading Calendar 947.

        15                  On page 42, Senator Libous moves to

        16       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        17       Assembly Bill Number 6089 and substitute it

        18       for the identical Senate Bill Number 4126,

        19       Third Reading Calendar 1024.

        20                  On page 42, Senator Seward moves to

        21       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        22       Assembly Bill Number 7199 and substitute it

        23       for the identical Senate Bill Number 4133,

        24       Third Reading Calendar 1026.

        25                  On page 53, Senator O. Johnson


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         1       moves to discharge, from the Committee on

         2       Environmental Conservation, Assembly Bill

         3       Number 8209 and substitute it for the

         4       identical Senate Bill Number 5842, Third

         5       Reading Calendar 1218.

         6                  On page 53, Senator O. Johnson

         7       moves to discharge, from the Committee on

         8       Environmental Conservation, Assembly Bill

         9       Number 8213 and substitute it for the

        10       identical Senate Bill Number 5843, Third

        11       Reading Calendar 1219.

        12                  On page 62, Senator C. Kruger moves

        13       to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        14       Assembly Bill Number 8193 and substitute it

        15       for the identical Senate Bill Number 4538,

        16       Third Reading Calendar 1325.

        17                  On page 55, Senator DeFrancisco

        18       moves to discharge, from the Committee on

        19       Judiciary, Assembly Bill Number 7369 and

        20       substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

        21       Number 4246, Third Reading Calendar 1350.

        22                  On page 66, Senator Leibell moves

        23       to discharge, from the Committee on Civil

        24       Service and Pensions, Assembly Bill Number

        25       6538 and substitute it for the identical


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         1       Senate Bill Number 4562, Third Reading

         2       Calendar 1375.

         3                  And on page 68, Senator Volker

         4       moves to discharge, from the Committee on

         5       Rules, Assembly Bill Number 6634 and

         6       substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

         7       Number 3678, Third Reading Calendar 1406.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    Substitutions

         9       ordered.

        10                  Senator Skelos.

        11                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        12       if we could return to reports of standing

        13       committees, I believe there's a Finance

        14       Committee report at the desk.  I ask that it

        15       be taken up at this time.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    Reports of

        17       standing committees.

        18                  The Secretary will read.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator O.

        20       Johnson, from the Committee on Finance,

        21       reports the following nomination.

        22                  As Medicaid Inspector General,

        23       James G. Sheehan, of Albany.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Johnson.

        25                  SENATOR OWEN JOHNSON:    I rise to


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         1       move the nomination.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

         3       nomination, Senator Hannon.

         4                  SENATOR HANNON:    Mr. President, I

         5       would like to address the body and just give

         6       you some reasons that we have come across, in

         7       having conversations with Governor Spitzer's

         8       recommendation, for appointment of the

         9       Medicaid Inspector General.

        10                  James Sheehan brings a

        11       distinguished record of professional

        12       accomplishment in regard to looking at

        13       Medicaid fraud, Medicare fraud, healthcare

        14       fraud -- as a federal prosecutor, as a federal

        15       prosecutor and head of the civil division in

        16       Philadelphia, and then moving on to Assistant

        17       Attorney General, dealing with matters that

        18       were not just specific cases, although there

        19       were significant achievements in that regard,

        20       but also looking at topic areas such as

        21       different types of billing, different types of

        22       processes.

        23                  So what I can say as a conclusion

        24       is that we as citizens of the United States

        25       have benefited from what he has already done


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         1       in regard to enforcing federal laws that say

         2       there ought to be fair pricing, there ought to

         3       be fair processes, that people who are

         4       taxpayers will get the money that is and the

         5       worth of their taxes that we pay through

         6       Medicare and Medicaid in a good, efficient

         7       healthcare system.

         8                  In the year 2006, this legislative

         9       body, together with then-Attorney General

        10       Eliot Spitzer and Governor George Pataki,

        11       worked long and mightily to come up with a new

        12       Medicaid Inspector General statute.  That

        13       statute, enhanced by what we did as

        14       significant appropriations in this year's

        15       budget, gives us the best chance we have ever

        16       had to have a fairly good system at looking at

        17       Medicaid fraud, provider fraud, recipient

        18       fraud, and, accompanying with it, improper

        19       payments that really should get to the credit

        20       of the state's treasury.

        21                  In Jim Sheehan we have somebody who

        22       has the managerial capacity, has the

        23       prosecutorial capacity, the legal capacity to

        24       bring forward an efficient office, one that's

        25       going to have high hurdles to achieve because


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         1       of the budgetary and FSHRP goals that we've

         2       asked Medicaid fraud to turn back to the

         3       state's treasury.

         4                  And therefore, Mr. President, I'm

         5       most happy to recommend to this body that we

         6       confirm Jim Sheehan to be the Medicaid

         7       Inspector General.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    The question is

         9       on the nomination of James G. Sheehan, of

        10       Albany, as New York State's Inspector General

        11       for Medicaid.  All those in favor please

        12       indicate so by saying aye.

        13                  (Response of "Aye.")

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

        15                  (No response.)

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    James G. Sheehan,

        17       of Albany, who joins us today from the west

        18       gallery, is hereby confirmed as the Inspector

        19       General for Medicaid.  He brings with him a

        20       long career in law enforcement and a strong

        21       healthcare background.

        22                  Mr. Sheehan, congratulations and

        23       best of luck from all the Senators here in the

        24       chamber.

        25                  (Applause.)


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         1                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

         2       will read.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    As director of

         4       the New York State Environmental Facilities

         5       Corporation, Charles J. Kruzansky, of

         6       Voorheesville.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Johnson.

         8                  SENATOR OWEN JOHNSON:    I rise to

         9       move the nomination.

        10                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

        11       nomination, all those in favor please indicate

        12       by saying aye.

        13                  (Response of "Aye.")

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

        15                  (No response.)

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    The nomination is

        17       confirmed.

        18                  Senator Skelos.

        19                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        20       if we could adopt the Resolution Calendar,

        21       with the exception of Resolutions 2567 and

        22       2629.

        23                  THE PRESIDENT:    All those in

        24       favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar,

        25       with the exceptions provided by Senator


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         1       Skelos, please indicate so by saying aye.

         2                  (Response of "Aye.")

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

         4                  (No response.)

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Resolution

         6       Calendar is adopted.

         7                  Senator Skelos.

         8                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

         9       there's a Resolution 2567 at the desk, by

        10       Senator Golden.  If we could have the title

        11       read, open it up for cosponsorship, and move

        12       for its immediate adoption.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Thank you,

        14       Senator Skelos.

        15                  The Secretary will read the title.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

        17       Golden, Legislative Resolution Number 2567,

        18       memorializing Governor Eliot Spitzer to

        19       proclaim November 2007 as Alzheimer's Disease

        20       Awareness Month and November 13, 2007, as

        21       Memory Screening Day in the State of New York.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Golden.

        23                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    Thank you,

        24       Mr. President.

        25                  I rise today as we are passing a


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         1       resolution proclaiming November as Alzheimer's

         2       Disease Awareness Month and November 13, 2007,

         3       as Memory Screening Day.

         4                  Alzheimer's disease is a slow

         5       progressive disorder of the brain that results

         6       in loss of memory and other cognitive

         7       functions and, in some cases, even death.

         8                  Alzheimer's is the eighth leading

         9       cause of death in the United States and

        10       affects an estimated 5 million Americans, a

        11       number that is estimated to triple by 2050.

        12       Alzheimer's is the 12th leading cause of death

        13       in New York State for people over 65 years of

        14       age.  Three million seniors here today,

        15       5.5 million seniors here in about 10 to 15

        16       years, and two out of every four over the age

        17       of 85 years of age has and will get

        18       Alzheimer's.  And Alzheimer's is noncurable.

        19                  My mom is in the beginning stages

        20       of Alzheimer's.  And as chairman of the State

        21       Senate Aging Committee, it is important that

        22       we fight the stigma associated with

        23       Alzheimer's and get the individuals and their

        24       caregivers the assessment tools and medical

        25       care necessary to live with dignity,


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         1       independence and respect.

         2                  I am grateful that we are joined

         3       today by two individuals who are leading the

         4       fight to improve the quality of care for

         5       individuals with Alzheimer's disease.

         6                  Mr. Eric Hall is the founding chief

         7       executive officer of Alzheimer's Foundation of

         8       America.  Mr. Hall spearheaded the development

         9       of the Alzheimer's Foundation of America,

        10       which includes 800 member organizations in

        11       North America.  And that's just in the last

        12       five years.

        13                  Among Mr. Hall's numerous

        14       accomplishments, he has rolled out three major

        15       national initiatives, including AFA Quilt to

        16       Remember, National Memory Screening Day, and

        17       National Commemorative Candle Lighting.

        18                  We're also joined by Carol

        19       Steinberg, executive vice president of

        20       Alzheimer's Foundation of America, and

        21       Ms. Steinberg is the award-winning journalist

        22       and public relations professional who has

        23       contributed to the formation and growth of the

        24       Alzheimer's Foundation of America.

        25                  Ms. Steinberg's efforts to raise


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         1       the public awareness of Alzheimer's have

         2       helped Americans get a better understanding of

         3       this debilitating disease.

         4                  Once again, I thank Eric and Carol

         5       for joining us here today and encourage them

         6       to continue the valuable service to the State

         7       of New York and to the United States of

         8       America.

         9                  And I welcome all of my colleagues

        10       here today to join us on this resolution in

        11       acknowledging that November is Alzheimer's

        12       Disease Awareness Month and that November 13th

        13       is Memory Screening Day.

        14                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    On the

        16       resolution, all those in favor please indicate

        17       so by saying aye.

        18                  (Response of "Aye.")

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

        20                  (No response.)

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    The resolution

        22       carries for November being Alzheimer's

        23       Awareness Month and November 13th being Memory

        24       Screening Day.  Thank you, Senator Golden.

        25                  Senator Golden has opened up this


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         1       resolution for all.  Anyone that wishes not to

         2       go on the resolution can indicate so at the

         3       desk.

         4                  Senator Little.

         5                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Thank you,

         6       Mr. President.  There's a Resolution 2629 at

         7       the desk, by Senator Hannon.  May we please

         8       have the title read and move for its immediate

         9       adoption.

        10                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        11       will read.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

        13       Hannon, Legislative Resolution Number 2629,

        14       honoring Mary Katherine "Katie" Beckett's life

        15       work on behalf of vitally needy children and

        16       her service to others.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Hannon.

        18                  SENATOR HANNON:    I just want to

        19       ask, Mr. President, that if anybody would like

        20       to cosponsor this resolution, please just let

        21       the desk know.  We welcome it.

        22                  It's on behalf of a young woman who

        23       took a personal tragedy and, with her mother,

        24       managed to change the laws of this nation and

        25       many other states so there's great access to


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         1       healthcare, much better than there was before.

         2                  Thank you, Mr. President.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Hannon,

         4       what we will do is we will open the resolution

         5       and put the names of all the members on it.

         6       Any member indicating that they would not wish

         7       to be on the resolution may indicate so at the

         8       desk.

         9                  On the resolution, all those in

        10       favor please indicate so by saying aye.

        11                  (Response of "Aye.")

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    Opposed, nay.

        13                  (No response.)

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    The resolution

        15       carries.

        16                  Senator Little.

        17                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Thank you,

        18       Mr. President.  Can we please recognize

        19       Senator Farley for a motion.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    On a motion,

        21       Senator Farley.

        22                  SENATOR FARLEY:    It's nice to be

        23       recognized.  Thank you.

        24                  On behalf of Senator Marcellino,

        25       Mr. President, I wish to call up his bill,


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         1       Print Number 5157, recalled from the Assembly,

         2       and it's now at the desk.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

         4       will read.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       1189, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print

         7       5157, an act to authorize the City of Glen

         8       Cove.

         9                  SENATOR FARLEY:    Mr. President, I

        10       now move to reconsider the vote by which this

        11       bill was passed.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        13       will call the roll on reconsideration.

        14                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Farley.

        17                  SENATOR FARLEY:    Mr. President, I

        18       now offer the following amendments.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

        20       are received and adopted, Senator Farley.

        21                  SENATOR FARLEY:    Mr. President,

        22       on behalf of Senator Saland, I wish to call up

        23       his bill, Print Number 1092A, recalled from

        24       the Assembly, and it's now at the desk.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary


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         1       will read.

         2                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         4       128, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 1092A, an

         5       act to amend the Executive Law and the General

         6       Business Law.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Farley.

         8                  SENATOR FARLEY:    I now move to

         9       reconsider the vote by which this bill was

        10       passed.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll on

        12       reconsideration.

        13                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

        15                  SENATOR FARLEY:    Mr. President, I

        16       now offer the following amendments.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    The amendments

        18       are received and adopted, Senator Farley.

        19                  The chair recognizes Senator

        20       Little.

        21                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Thank you.

        22       Mr. President, may we please have the

        23       noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        25       will conduct the noncontroversial reading of


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         1       the calendar.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         3       174, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 2175, an

         4       act to amend the Retirement and Social

         5       Security Law.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

         7       will read the last section.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        11       will call the roll.

        12                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Announce the

        14       results.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        17       passed.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       221, by Senator Nozzolio --

        20                  SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

        21       please.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

        23       aside.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        25       395, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 3637, an


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         1       act to amend the Executive Law.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

         4       act shall take effect immediately.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 55.  Nays,

         8       1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        10       passed.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        12       450, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 738, an

        13       act to amend the Administrative Code of the

        14       City of New York.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        19                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        22       passed.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        24       451, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 739, an

        25       act to amend the Administrative Code of the


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         1       City of New York.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         3       section.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         7                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        10       passed.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        12       478, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 2129, an

        13       act to amend the Highway Law.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        16       act shall take effect immediately.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        18                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        21       passed.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        23       553, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 1558,

        24       an act to amend the Environmental Conservation

        25       Law.


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         1                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         2       section.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         4       act shall take effect immediately.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         9       passed.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        11       676, by Senator Little, Senate Print 1100, an

        12       act to amend the Navigation Law.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        14       section.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        16       act shall take effect on the first of April.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        18                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        21       passed.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        23       685, by Senator Rath, Senate Print 3990, an

        24       act to amend the Parks, Recreation and

        25       Historic Preservation Law.


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         1                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         2       section.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         4       act shall take effect immediately.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         9       passed.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        11       714, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 1046, an

        12       act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        15       act shall take effect immediately.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        17                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        20       passed.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        22       718, by Senator Young, Senate Print 4454, an

        23       act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law

        24       and the Real Property Tax Law.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

         2       act shall take effect immediately.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         4                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         7       passed.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         9       727, by Senator Young, Senate Print 367, an

        10       act to amend the Social Services Law.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        13       act shall take effect immediately.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        15                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        18       passed.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        20       760, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 561, an

        21       act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        23       section.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        25       act shall take effect on the first of


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         1       November.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         3                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         6       passed.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         8       771, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 3550, an

         9       act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

        10                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        11       section.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        13       act shall take effect on the 30th day.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        15                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        18       passed.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        20       775, by Senator Little, Senate Print 4242, an

        21       act to amend the Navigation Law.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 10.  This

        24       act shall take effect immediately.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.


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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         4       passed.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       839, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print --

         7                  SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

         8       please.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

        10       aside.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        12       872, by Senator Young, Senate Print 386, an

        13       act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        16       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        18                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        21       passed.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        23       875, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 3853,

        24       an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Last section.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

         2       act shall take effect on the 120th day.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

         4       will call the roll.

         5                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         8       passed.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        10       917, substituted earlier today by Member of

        11       the Assembly Lifton, Assembly Print Number

        12       3568, an act to amend --

        13                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Lay it aside for

        14       the day, please.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

        16       aside for the day.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        18       942, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 343, an

        19       act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        21       section.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 13.  This

        23       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        25                  (The Secretary called the roll.)


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.  Nays,

         2       1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         4       passed.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       945, substituted earlier today by Member of

         7       the Assembly Magee, Assembly Print Number

         8       7232A, an act to amend the Agriculture and

         9       Markets Law.

        10                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        11       section.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        13       act shall effect immediately.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        15                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    Results.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        19       passed.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        21       947, substituted earlier today by Member of

        22       the Assembly Magee, Assembly Print Number

        23       7339, an act to amend the Agriculture and

        24       Markets Law.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last


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         1       section.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         3       act shall take effect immediately.

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         5                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         8       passed.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        10       979, by Senator Seward --

        11                  SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

        12       please.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

        14       aside by the Acting Minority Leader, Senator

        15       Duane.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        17       998, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 1768A,

        18       an act to amend the Environmental Conservation

        19       Law.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        21       section.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        23       act shall take effect immediately.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        25                  (The Secretary called the roll.)


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.  Nays,

         2       1.  Senator Winner recorded in the negative.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         4       passed.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       1024, substituted earlier today by Member of

         7       the Assembly Lupardo, Assembly Print Number

         8       6089, an act to amend the Tax Law.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        10       section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        14                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        17       passed.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       1025, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 4127, an

        20       act to amend the Tax Law.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        22       section.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        24       act shall take effect immediately.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.


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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         4       passed.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       1026, substituted earlier today by Member of

         7       the Assembly Lifton, Assembly Print Number

         8       7199, an act to amend the Tax Law.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        10       section, please.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        14                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        17       passed.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       1077, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 4722,

        20       an act to amend the Education Law.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        22       section.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        24       act shall take effect on the first of April.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.


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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         4       passed.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       1087, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 883, an

         7       act to amend the Correction Law.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         9       section.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 5.  This

        11       act shall take effect immediately.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        13                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        16       passed.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        18       1118, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print

        19       4877, an act to amend the Domestic Relations

        20       Law and the Family Court Act.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        22       section.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        24       act shall take effect on the 30th day.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.


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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         4       passed.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       1135, by Senator Little, Senate Print 5704A,

         7       an act to amend the General Municipal Law and

         8       the Town Law.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        10       section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 10.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        14                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        17       passed.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       1183, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 2676, an

        20       act to amend the Local Finance Law.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    There is a

        22       home-rule message at the desk.

        23                  Read the last section.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        25       act shall take effect immediately.


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         1                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         2                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         5       passed.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         7       1218, substituted earlier today by Member of

         8       the Assembly Sweeney, Assembly Print Number

         9       8209, an act to amend the Environmental

        10       Conservation Law.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        12       section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        16                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.  Nays,

        18       1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        20       passed.

        21                  The Secretary will read.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        23       1219, substituted earlier today by Member of

        24       the Assembly Weisenberg, Assembly Print Number

        25       8213, an act to amend the Environmental


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         1       Conservation Law.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         3       section.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         7                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        10       passed.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        12       1220, by Senator Young, Senate Print 389, an

        13       act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        15       section.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        19                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

        21       the negative on Calendar Number 1220 are

        22       Senators Connor, Duane, Gonzalez,

        23       Hassell-Thompson, Perkins and Schneiderman.

        24                  Ayes, 54.  Nays, 6.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is


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         1       passed.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         3       1222, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 1295, an

         4       act to amend the Civil Rights Law.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         6       section.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         8       act shall take effect immediately.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        10                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.  Nays,

        12       2.  Senators Connor and Duane recorded in the

        13       negative.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        15       passed.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        17       1224, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 1601,

        18       an act to amend the Penal Law, the Vehicle and

        19       Traffic Law, and the Criminal Procedure Law.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        21       section.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 10.  This

        23       act shall take effect on the first of

        24       November.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.


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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.  Nays,

         3       2.  Senators Duane and Hassell-Thompson

         4       recorded in the negative.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         6       passed.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         8       1236, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 3441, an

         9       act to amend the Penal Law.

        10                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        11       section.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        13       act shall take effect on the first of

        14       November.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        16                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        19       passed.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        21       1241, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 4209,

        22       an act to amend the Penal Law.

        23                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        24       section.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This


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         1       act shall take effect on the first of

         2       November.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         4                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator

         6       Hassell-Thompson, to explain her vote.

         7                  SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:    Thank

         8       you, Mr. President.

         9                  I had asked this bill to be laid

        10       aside yesterday because I had some questions

        11       on the bill.  Having spoken with the sponsor

        12       since, I'm going to be voting on the bill.

        13                  But I am very disappointed because

        14       the original origin of this bill came from the

        15       City of Mount Vernon and the final print does

        16       not include any municipality outside of

        17       New York City.  So I will be working hopefully

        18       to get a bill that will pass to go beyond the

        19       environs of New York City.

        20                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Your vote,

        22       Senator?

        23                  SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:    I'm

        24       voting for, Mr. President.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator


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         1       Hassell-Thompson will be recorded in the

         2       affirmative.

         3                  The Secretary will announce the

         4       results.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         7       passed.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         9       1242, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 4954, an

        10       act to amend the Penal Law.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        12       section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        14       act shall take effect on the first of

        15       November.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        17                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        20       passed.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        22       1243, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 5026, an

        23       act to amend the Penal Law.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        25       section.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         2       act shall take effect on the first of

         3       November.

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         5                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         8       passed.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        10       1246, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 5159,

        11       an act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    Please read the

        13       last section.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        15       act shall take effect immediately.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        17                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        20       passed.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        22       1262, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 5131,

        23       an act to amend the Insurance Law.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        25       section.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         2       act shall take effect immediately.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         4                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         7       passed.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         9       1277, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print

        10       5305A, an act to amend the Navigation Law.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        12       section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        16                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        19       passed.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        21       1284, by Senator Leibell, Senate Print 4697,

        22       an act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

        23                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        24       section.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This


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         1       act shall take effect January 3, 2008.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         3                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         6       passed.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         8       1285, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print

         9       5571 --

        10                  SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

        11       please.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

        13       aside.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        15       1294, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 5764,

        16       an act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

        17                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        18       section.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        22                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

        24       1.  Senator Bonacic recorded in the negative.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is


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         1       passed.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         3       1295, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 5801, an

         4       act to amend the General Municipal Law.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         6       section.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

         8       act shall take effect immediately.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        10                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        13       passed.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        15       1305, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 4704A --

        16                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Lay it aside for

        17       the day, please.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

        19       aside for the day.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        21       1309, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print

        22       5769, Concurrent Resolution of the Senate and

        23       Assembly proposing an amendment to Section 1

        24       of Article 6 of the Constitution.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.


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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The resolution

         4       carries.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       1311, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 590,

         7       an act to amend the Education Law.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         9       section.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        11       act shall take effect immediately.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        13                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        16       passed.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        18       1314, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 5476A,

        19       an act to amend the Education Law.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        21       section.

        22                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Lay it aside for

        23       the day, please.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

        25       aside for the day at the request of the Acting


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         1       Majority Leader, Senator Little.

         2                  The Secretary will read.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         4       1325, substituted earlier today by Member of

         5       the Assembly Weinstein, Assembly Print Number

         6       8193, an act to amend the Criminal Procedure

         7       Law.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         9       section.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        11       act shall take effect immediately.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        13                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        16       passed.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        18       1332, by Senator Volker, Senate Print 5763, an

        19       act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        21       section.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        23       act shall take effect immediately.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        25                  (The Secretary called the roll.)


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         3       passed.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         5       1334, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print

         6       1265, an act to amend the Public Health Law.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         8       section.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        10       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        12                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        15       passed.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        17       1348, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 839,

        18       an act to amend the State Finance Law.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        20       section.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        22       act shall take effect on the 90th day.

        23                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        24                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.


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         1                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         2       passed.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         4       1350, substituted earlier today by Member of

         5       the Assembly Destito, Assembly Print Number

         6       7369, an act to amend the Judiciary Law.

         7                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         8       section.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        10       act shall take effect immediately.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        12                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        15       passed.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        17       1352, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 4487A,

        18       an act to amend the General Business Law.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        20       section.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

        22       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        23                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        24                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.


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         1                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         2       passed.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         4       1365, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 1238A,

         5       an act to amend the General Municipal Law.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         7       section.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         9       act shall take effect on the first of July

        10       next succeeding.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        12                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        15       passed.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        17       1368, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 2486,

        18       an act to amend the Retirement and Social

        19       Security Law.

        20                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        21       section.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        23       act shall take effect immediately.

        24                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        25                  (The Secretary called the roll.)


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         3       passed.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         5       1375, substituted earlier today by Member of

         6       the Assembly Abbate, Assembly Print Number

         7       6538, an act to amend the Retirement and

         8       Social Security Law.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        10       section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        14                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        17       passed.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       1388, by Senator Robach, Senate Print 4101, an

        20       act to amend the Civil Service Law.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        22       section.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 7.  This

        24       act shall take effect on the 90th day.

        25                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.


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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         4       passed.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       1389, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 4920, an

         7       act to amend the Civil Service Law.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         9       section.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        11       act shall take effect immediately.

        12                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        13                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        16       passed.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        18       1396, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 5751, an

        19       act to authorize the Village of

        20       Cornwall-on-Hudson.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    There is a

        22       home-rule message at the desk.

        23                  The Secretary will read the last

        24       section.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This


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         1       act shall take effect immediately.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         3                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         6       passed.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         8       1406, substituted earlier today by Member of

         9       the Assembly Burling, Assembly Print Number

        10       6634, an act to amend the Tax Law.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        12       section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        16                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        19       passed.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        21       1408, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print --

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Connor,

        23       did you want to explain your vote on the

        24       previous bill?

        25                  SENATOR CONNOR:    No, on this one,


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         1       I'm sorry.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    We'll be right

         3       with you.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         5       1408, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 3919,

         6       an act to amend the State Law.

         7                  SENATOR CONNOR:    Thank you,

         8       Mr. President, to explain my vote.

         9                  This bill would designate sweet

        10       corn as the state vegetable, and I have a

        11       problem with that.  And I know it's popular,

        12       and I hesitate to vote against it for fear

        13       I'll be roasted or creamed or stalked because

        14       of it --

        15                  (Laughter.)

        16                  SENATOR CONNOR:    -- but I find

        17       there's not a kernel of truth in this bill.

        18                  Because as everyone knows, corn is

        19       a grain.  And I would propose that we make

        20       sweet corn New York State's official grain.

        21                  And having once been at the

        22       Sauerkraut Festival in Phelps, New York, the

        23       Sauerkraut Capital of the United States, I

        24       would propose we make the cabbage the state

        25       vegetable.


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         1                  So that being said, Mr. President,

         2       I'm going to vote no.  Thank you.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Connor,

         4       we will accept that as your explanation.  We

         5       haven't actually gotten to the roll call.  But

         6       when we do, that will be your explanation.

         7                  You may be roasted or creamed, but

         8       I doubt you'll be stalked.

         9                  (Laughter.)

        10                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        11       will read the last section.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        13       act shall take effect immediately.

        14                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        15                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Stavisky,

        17       to explain her vote.

        18                  SENATOR STAVISKY:    Yes, I'd like

        19       to commend Senator Connor on his corny

        20       comments.  He's got us all steamed up, and I

        21       vote no.

        22                  (Laughter.)

        23                  THE PRESIDENT:    Senator Stavisky

        24       will be recorded in the negative on Calendar

        25       Number 1408.


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         1                  The Secretary will announce the

         2       results.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

         4       the negative on Calendar Number 1408 are

         5       Senators Connor, Dilan, Hassell-Thompson,

         6       Huntley, Klein, L. Krueger, Montgomery,

         7       Perkins, Sabini, Sampson, Schneiderman,

         8       Serrano, Stavisky and Stewart-Cousins.

         9                  Ayes, 46.  Nays, 14.

        10                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        11       passed.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        13       1411, by Senator Winner, Senate Print 4426, an

        14       act to amend the Tax Law.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        16       section.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        18       act shall take effect immediately.

        19                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        20                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        23       passed.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        25       1412, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print --


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         1                  SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

         2       please.

         3                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

         4       aside.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       1413, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

         7       Print Number 4861, an act to amend the Tax

         8       Law.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    The Secretary

        10       will read the last section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        14                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        17       passed.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       1414, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

        20       Print Number 5029, an act to amend the Tax

        21       Law.

        22                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        23       section.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        25       act shall take effect immediately.


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         1                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         2                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         5       passed.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         7       1415, by Senator Wright, Senate Print 5054, an

         8       act to amend the Tax Law.

         9                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        10       section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        14                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        16                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        17       passed.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       1417, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 93, an

        20       act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

        21                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        22       section.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        24       act shall take effect on the first of

        25       November.


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         1                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         2                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

         4       1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

         5                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         6       passed.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         8       1419, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print

         9       634A, an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic

        10       Law.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        12       section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        14       act shall take effect on the 120th day.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        16                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        19       passed.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        21       1420, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 886, an

        22       act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

        23                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        24       section.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This


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         1       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

         2                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         3                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

         5       1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

         6                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

         7       passed.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         9       1423, by Senator Trunzo, Senate Print 1486, an

        10       act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

        12       section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        14       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        15                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

        16                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        18                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        19       passed.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        21       1442, by Senator Bruno, Senate Print 6020 --

        22                  SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside.

        23                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is laid

        24       aside.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number


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         1       1443, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 6015, an

         2       act to authorize and direct the Department of

         3       Environmental Conservation.

         4                  THE PRESIDENT:    Read the last

         5       section.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         7       act shall take effect immediately.

         8                  THE PRESIDENT:    Call the roll.

         9                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        11                  THE PRESIDENT:    The bill is

        12       passed.

        13                  Senator Little, that completes the

        14       noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

        15                  (Brief pause in proceedings.)

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Senator

        17       Bruno.

        18                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

        19       can we at this time take up the controversial

        20       calendar, starting with Calendar 1442.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        22       you.

        23                  The Secretary will ring the bell

        24       and read Calendar 1442.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number


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         1       1442, by Senator Bruno, Senate Print 6020,

         2       Concurrent Resolution of the Senate and

         3       Assembly proposing amendments to the

         4       Constitution.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Senator

         6       Bruno.

         7                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

         8       the issue before us relates to the public

         9       good, and that being the opportunity for the

        10       people of this state to vote on issues that

        11       are important to the general public, referred

        12       to as initiative and referendum.

        13                  We have in this chamber passed this

        14       resolution several times.  In order for this

        15       initiative and referendum to become law of

        16       New York State and join half of the other

        17       states in the United States that have some

        18       form of initiative and referendum, you all

        19       know that this resolution would have to pass

        20       both houses in two separately elected

        21       legislatures and then go before the public on

        22       November ballot.  And the earliest that that

        23       could happen would be '09, in November of '09,

        24       given second passage.

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         1       Assembly has not passed it at all.

         2                  This is an important piece of

         3       legislation, important to the people of this

         4       state because of many issues that are

         5       critically important that are never taken up

         6       in the Legislature.  They're not taken up for

         7       whatever reasons -- political reasons,

         8       personal reasons on the parts of leaders,

         9       members.

        10                  The public ought to have a final

        11       say on issues like doing away with property

        12       taxes, doing away with property taxes in

        13       New York State.  Now, would that ever come

        14       before the Assembly?  Senator Fuschillo is

        15       shaking his head; he says no.  I agree with

        16       Senator Fuschillo, as usual.  And Senator

        17       Bonacic.  Do any of you think that would come

        18       for a vote?  I doubt it.

        19                  Now, would it be fair to put this

        20       before the public?  Just an issue that comes

        21       to mind that's critically important.  Now, why

        22       can't we allow the public of New York State,

        23       the majority of the people, to have a vote, to

        24       have a say directly on issues that would

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         1       before us.

         2                  Many of you have supported this

         3       before.  And I would -- don't want to guess or

         4       assume, but it's good government, it's good

         5       judgment, it's the right thing to do.  And,

         6       Madam President, I would encourage my

         7       colleagues to vote in favor of this

         8       resolution, which is first passage, first

         9       passage that would help if the Assembly will

        10       join us, then do it in the next election, get

        11       this issue before the voters in November of

        12       '09.

        13                  Thank you, Madam President.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        15       you, Senator Bruno.

        16                  Is there any other Senator that

        17       wishes to speak on the concurrent resolution

        18       before us?

        19                  (No response.)

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    The

        21       Secretary will ring the bell.

        22                  Senator Larkin.

        23                  SENATOR LARKIN:    Thank you, Madam

        24       President.  And I want to thank the Majority

        25       Leader for putting this on the floor.


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         1                  We've been hearing for the past two

         2       years, people campaigning around this state:

         3       We want transparency, we want the people

         4       involved, I want to see the people have the

         5       opportunity to do this, I want people to be

         6       involved, they should be -- everything should

         7       be open to the public, the people of this

         8       state should have the power to do it.

         9                  Well, here's a good example of what

        10       we can do.  Last year it passed this house

        11       50-something to 10.  What are we saying to the

        12       people of the State of New York when this

        13       house, people won't vote for it, and in the

        14       other house they probably wouldn't even print

        15       it?

        16                  Are they scared of the public?  Are

        17       they scared of the people that sent them here,

        18       that you said, I will go and represent you in

        19       Albany, but don't tell me how to do any bills,

        20       don't tell me how to do any of this, I know

        21       better than you?

        22                  And what does it all add up to?  It

        23       adds up to saying what we preach is not what

        24       you believe in.  I'm very disgusted when I see

        25       people who say initiative and referendum is


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         1       not any good.  Why isn't it any good?

         2                  First of all, you don't want what

         3       the public is going to vote on it.  But you're

         4       going to give them two chances at the bell --

         5       this year, next year.  And what we will have

         6       to do is clearly say to the people this is the

         7       grounds for initiative and referendum.

         8                  And I don't know exactly how many

         9       states, but there are many across this nation

        10       that have it.  And I don't hear from any of

        11       them that say it's a bad bill.  I don't have

        12       any of them that says it doesn't work.  I

        13       would like for somebody on the other side or

        14       in the Assembly to tell me why it's a bad

        15       bill, why it won't work.

        16                  I'll get to you later.

        17                  But here's an opportunity to tell

        18       the people:  You elected me, I'm proud to

        19       represent you, and I'm not ashamed to put my

        20       name on an initiative and referendum bill.

        21       I'm not ashamed because I'm doing what you

        22       sent me here to the State Capitol to do.

        23                  But all of a sudden, well, you

        24       know, it's not transparent enough.  Oh, it's

        25       this, it's that.  You know what it is?  You're


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         1       afraid to skin.  And when I say that I mean

         2       you don't have the courage to vote to let your

         3       people who sent you to say a message to you.

         4       As Senator Bruno said, they may want you to

         5       add something or delete something.  Why not

         6       give them the chance?

         7                  This is a chance for bravery.  This

         8       is a chance for leadership.  Either stand up

         9       for your people or step down.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        11       you, Senator Larkin.

        12                  Senator Nozzolio.

        13                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Madam

        14       President, on the bill.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    On the

        16       resolution.

        17                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    On the

        18       resolution.  Thank you, Madam President.

        19                  My colleagues, I rise to support

        20       this legislation.  It is in fact the type of

        21       reform that is talked about in this chamber,

        22       in the other chamber, and across this state,

        23       in the sense that we want our government to be

        24       open and transparent and we want our

        25       government to be responsive to the people it


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         1       is designed to serve.

         2                  My favorite quotation from the

         3       United States Supreme Court is that of Justice

         4       Brandeis, who said in these United States the

         5       highest public office is that of private

         6       citizen.

         7                  The private citizens of this state

         8       and this nation should have all opportunity to

         9       directly participate in the democratic

        10       process.  For the last few weeks we've been

        11       celebrating, commemorating the sacrifices of

        12       those who shed their blood to provide us the

        13       rights that we hold dearly in this democratic

        14       society.

        15                  But I believe New York is behind

        16       the times and behind many states.  Virtually

        17       half the states of this country have

        18       initiative and referendum.  New York is the

        19       largest state that does not have initiative

        20       and referendum.  And that we as a Legislature

        21       should provide our citizens with that

        22       opportunity to directly participate in issues

        23       of importance to them.

        24                  We need to encourage citizen

        25       participation at the ballot box.  This is an


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         1       excellent way to do it.  We need to encourage

         2       our citizens to be involved in every aspect of

         3       their democracy.  Initiative and referendum

         4       eliminates or reduces the couch-potato

         5       democracy, in the sense that we cannot sit

         6       back and let others take care of the

         7       government.  We need to get citizens off the

         8       couch, onto their ballot boxes, into the

         9       issues and discussions of the day.

        10                  And this procedure in New York

        11       State is sorely needed.  That's why, Madam

        12       President, I support it fully and I will work

        13       for its passage.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        15       you, Senator Nozzolio.

        16                  Could we have it quiet, please,

        17       while the Senators are speaking.

        18                  Senator Libous.

        19                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Are we on the

        20       vote now, or are we on the bill still?

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    On the

        22       resolution.

        23                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    On the

        24       resolution.  Thank you, Madam President.

        25                  I want to rise and join my


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         1       colleagues and certainly thank Senator Bruno

         2       for having the courage to bring this to the

         3       floor year after year.

         4                  And the frustration that I think

         5       many of us have in this chamber because the

         6       Assembly fails to take any action, it's the

         7       same frustration that our constituents have.

         8       It's the same frustration that they have when

         9       we're at home in our districts and they wonder

        10       why the Legislature can't get a bill passed,

        11       why it passes the Senate and doesn't pass the

        12       Assembly, why a number of different types of

        13       what they call commonsense legislation can't

        14       pass in both houses.

        15                  This is common sense.  This gives

        16       the people who sent us here an opportunity to

        17       break the gridlock that happens in Albany --

        18       the gridlock, as Senator Bruno said, because

        19       of personalities, because of politics.

        20                  Certainly we are elected to come

        21       here and make decisions, and I think for the

        22       most part the public respects that.  But there

        23       are a number of big issues that are

        24       frustrating the people who live in this state,

        25       whether it pertains to property taxes, whether


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         1       it pertains to where I live and the upstate

         2       economy, whether it pertains to the death

         3       penalty for cop killers.  There are a number

         4       of frustrating issues that they would like to

         5       see resolved, they'd like to see some action

         6       on.

         7                  And it's the inaction that take

         8       place in the other house that frustrates them.

         9       It's the inaction on many of those issues.

        10       Because if you follow those issues that I

        11       mentioned, or if you follow a whole host of

        12       issues that people care about, they're usually

        13       addressed in this house, but for whatever

        14       reason they go nowhere in the Assembly.

        15                  That's why it's time for citizen

        16       participation.  That's why it's time for the

        17       people who elect us to have a say in the

        18       government that's gridlocked.

        19                  Mr. President, this is a good

        20       resolution, and it should pass unanimously

        21       because it's common sense.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        23       you, Senator Libous.

        24                  Senator Oppenheimer.

        25                  SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:    I just see


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         1       this as being so uncommon sense, and let me

         2       tell you why.

         3                  I don't think any of you have ever

         4       experienced what I did, so I think I should

         5       relate it.  About 25 years ago we in

         6       Westchester County decided that we were fed up

         7       with Con Ed rates and that we were going to go

         8       for a Westchester Power Authority.  And we put

         9       it -- made it into a referendum and we started

        10       to lobby for it, going around to each of our

        11       communities trying to engender interest -- we

        12       got the interest, but trying to engender some

        13       contributions that would help us in our

        14       campaign.

        15                  Well, we thought that everybody was

        16       going to jump on and help us out because this

        17       was to their advantage.  But then Con Ed got

        18       in the game.  And the amount of money that

        19       flowed from the coffers of Con Ed took away

        20       all our citizen participation efforts -- and

        21       we had a lot of people who were dedicated to

        22       trying to make our own power authority.

        23                  So having experienced that, I say

        24       if you're up against any of our major

        25       corporations, which is very likely would


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         1       happen in a referendum, that you are going to

         2       be outspent like a thousand to one.  And it's

         3       hard enough for us as individual candidates to

         4       get contributions from the citizenry out

         5       there, but just try and do it on an issue --

         6       even an issue that would have really benefited

         7       them financially.  We were showing we could

         8       really cut their power costs.

         9                  So having experienced that, and

        10       also just looking at California and seeing

        11       that there are so many -- there's so many

        12       risks in opening this up.  And legal rights

        13       and protections that have been very long

        14       fought for.

        15                  So I think it is not common sense,

        16       I think it's very uncommon sense.  I'll be

        17       voting no.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        19       you, Senator.

        20                  Senator Diaz.

        21                  SENATOR DIAZ:    Thank you, Madam

        22       President.  On the bill.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    On the

        24       resolution, Senator.

        25                  SENATOR DIAZ:    You know, this is


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         1       one of those bills that I question why they

         2       have been put aside.  It's a good bill.  And

         3       then I hear the other side, the Republican

         4       side, talking to us like we were opposing the

         5       bill.

         6                  On June 15, 2005, this piece of

         7       legislation came to the floor and we passed it

         8       56 to 5.  Last year, on June 6, 2006, the bill

         9       came back to us and we approved it 51 to 10.

        10       So, you know, this bill has the majority

        11       support in this house.  We Democrats, we on

        12       this side have joined you there to approve the

        13       bill.  So what are we talking about, lecturing

        14       whom?

        15                  So I congratulate Senator Bruno.

        16       It's a good piece of legislation.  But, ladies

        17       and gentlemen, you know, when we talk, we

        18       might talk praising the sponsor for the great

        19       piece of legislation, but it doesn't need

        20       lectures.  We are supporting the bill.  The

        21       bill has passed two years in a row in this

        22       house.  We are for this bill.  The majority of

        23       us, again, I'm saying we are supporting the

        24       bill.

        25                  So congratulations, Senator Bruno,


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         1       congratulations to all the members.  And

         2       please let's continue with other issues.  This

         3       bill has our support.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

         5       you, Senator.

         6                  Senator Robach.

         7                  SENATOR ROBACH:    Yes, Madam

         8       President.

         9                  I too join to support this.  You

        10       know, I've always said it's my honor and

        11       privilege to represent the people in my

        12       district, and I really -- I mean that

        13       sincerely.  And I think that this is just the

        14       ability to extend that representation to them,

        15       to let them have that voice.

        16                  And ironically, I couldn't -- I

        17       understand the difficulty with decision

        18       making, but I couldn't disagree more with my

        19       colleague from Westchester.  While I may not

        20       like the outcome of what people decide, that's

        21       clearly their prerogative.  And I do

        22       understand that there are some pitfalls on who

        23       has resources and who doesn't.  But

        24       ultimately, empowering people on important

        25       issues to vote directly is critically


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         1       important.

         2                  And I know there's been a lot of

         3       people in this room who have joined me.  It's

         4       very concerning to me that we have to deal

         5       with more and more important issues or things

         6       that government does that impacts lives,

         7       whether it's almost becoming fully responsible

         8       for healthcare, other issues, things that

         9       really affect people's lives.  It would seem

        10       to me people would think government is even

        11       more important.

        12                  Yet we know the voting trend is

        13       going the opposite way.  About half the people

        14       that can vote get registered.  About half of

        15       those turn out on a normal election year.  So

        16       we have 25 percent of the people feeling their

        17       vote is really important or empowering

        18       themselves.

        19                  I really believe that initiative

        20       and referendum gives them even more incentive

        21       to be directly involved in the legislative

        22       process.  It's just one more reason why we

        23       should do this.

        24                  This is ultimately power to the

        25       people.  I say right on, Eric Schneiderman.


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         1       So I'll be casting my vote in the affirmative.

         2       And hopefully we will also get some action in

         3       the other house as well.

         4                  Thank you, Madam President.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

         6       you, Senator.

         7                  Senator Connor.

         8                  SENATOR CONNOR:    Thank you, Madam

         9       President.

        10                  It's indeed an interesting day when

        11       the Republican party in this house abandons

        12       republicanism with a small "R" and embraces

        13       democracy with a small "D".

        14                  I'm going to go along with it.  But

        15       I think if you look at the history of

        16       initiative and referendum, it started in

        17       Western states as a democratic revolt against

        18       the established powers that controlled the

        19       legislatures.

        20                  And I on this floor years ago heard

        21       members on the other side of the aisle lecture

        22       us about New York is a republic and we are

        23       governed through elected representatives who

        24       use their judgment.  And that's the

        25       very-small-C conservative system that our


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         1       founding fathers, because they were all male,

         2       embraced.

         3                  And the fact is, watch what you

         4       wish for.  Because when I go back to my

         5       district, people say:  The Assembly passed

         6       this bill to help tenants or to limit rents

         7       and the Senate won't even take it up.  Or they

         8       say:  The Assembly passed this gun control

         9       bill, but the Senate won't take it up.  Or

        10       they say the Assembly has acted on this, that

        11       and the other thing, but the Senate won't take

        12       it up.  So just watch what you wish for,

        13       because there are two sides to all these

        14       issues.

        15                  I can see initiative and

        16       referendum, very popular initiative:  cut

        17       legislators' pay in half.  For all the wrong

        18       reasons, for all the wrong reasons, the public

        19       would run at that.  Particularly when the

        20       press keeps calling us part-time legislators,

        21       when all of us, whether you have some outside

        22       occupation or not, spend well more than

        23       40 hours a week doing this job.

        24                  So watch what you wish for.  If

        25       it's going to be direct democracy, you're


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         1       going to get it, somebody will want term

         2       limits, somebody will want pay cuts, somebody

         3       will want to abolish all taxes and leave us

         4       with a budget to fashion with no revenue.  But

         5       if this is what the Republican party in this

         6       house embraces, it's democracy.  And I'm a

         7       Democrat, and I'll vote for it.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

         9       you, Senator.

        10                  Senator Montgomery.

        11                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, thank

        12       you, Madam President.  Just briefly on the

        13       bill.

        14                  I'm going to oppose the bill.  I

        15       have opposed it in the past.  And one of the

        16       issues that I take very seriously is the issue

        17       raised by Senator Oppenheimer, and that is in

        18       many instances -- in fact, in all of the

        19       instances that I'm aware of where states, any

        20       state or any locality has the option for this

        21       kind of open access to change government, the

        22       money is what drives the decision.

        23                  And even, as Senator Oppenheimer

        24       has indicated, even when it is not in the

        25       interests of the public, if there is enough


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         1       money opposing or supporting whatever it is --

         2       i.e., in the instances that we know of in the

         3       state of California, where the issue of the

         4       referendum has driven a criminal justice law

         5       that is sinking the state to the point where

         6       the Governor is asking for some repeal because

         7       of the problems raised by the referendum on

         8       three-strikes-and-you're-out, and et cetera.

         9                  So this is really not government by

        10       the people.  This is not power to the people,

        11       this is screw the people.  Because the money

        12       is going to make the difference.  And so I

        13       object to using that word.  I know Senator

        14       Robach means it in all well-intended, but

        15       that's not what's going to happen here,

        16       Senator Robach.

        17                  And I think you and I know -- in

        18       fact, I'm just reading this article, and I

        19       never thought how much I would miss Warren

        20       Anderson.  But I do miss him.  This is a

        21       wonderful article on him.  I would ask my

        22       colleagues to take the time to read this.

        23       It's in the Times Union.  And -- excuse me, I

        24       wasn't supposed to say that.  But it's a

        25       wonderful article.  You can look it up and try


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         1       to find it.

         2                  But I will tell you that Warren

         3       Anderson thought this was a bad idea.  And I

         4       respected him, because he respected the

         5       institution.

         6                  Yes, we get bottlenecked.  I'm

         7       frustrated very often.  I know all of us are.

         8       But certainly it doesn't mean that we should

         9       throw democracy to the wind.  And that's what

        10       I think that we're proposing to do.

        11                  Because unless the citizens in my

        12       district are able to afford to come up and

        13       compete with whatever there is that's going to

        14       be on the referendum for this year or next

        15       year, whether or not it's Cablevision or it's

        16       some other corporation, unless they're able to

        17       put the same amount of money in, they're never

        18       going to win a referendum on the ballot.

        19                  So I'm going to oppose this, and

        20       it's because I support my constituents and the

        21       voters of this state, not because I'm trying

        22       to take democracy away.  But I think that this

        23       proposal will indeed take the democracy away,

        24       especially from constituents that I represent.

        25                  So I'm voting no, Madam President.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

         2       you, Senator Montgomery.

         3                  Does any other member wish to be

         4       heard on this bill?

         5                  Senator Schneiderman.

         6                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

         7       Madam President.

         8                  This has been an illuminating

         9       debate.  And I appreciate the fact that so

        10       many of my colleagues are frustrated -- and

        11       I've just written down some of the language

        12       used -- with the gridlock.  And Senator Libous

        13       is obviously the most frustrated of all.

        14                  We can't get bills to the floor, we

        15       can't get bills to the Assembly, we have

        16       problems with the fact that this Legislature

        17       in fact is gridlocked, as the good government

        18       advocates have accused us of over the years.

        19                  Well, I have a suggestion.  We

        20       don't have to do a constitutional amendment.

        21       The fervor for transparency and open

        22       government that is breaking out on the other

        23       side of the aisle can be resolved and can be

        24       addressed and can be satiated if we just

        25       simply amend Rule 8 of the Senate Rules to


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         1       allow us to get bills that have a majority of

         2       members in support to the floor.

         3                  Just eliminate this little

         4       requirement that the Temporary President is

         5       the only person with the power to put a bill

         6       on the active list.  And then we would

         7       embarrass the Assembly into doing the same.

         8                  Let's open government.  We don't

         9       need a constitutional amendment.  We don't

        10       need to go through this charade of waiting

        11       years and deluding the public and saying, Oh,

        12       we're with you, we're with you.

        13                  Until we amend our rule to allow

        14       bills to get to the floor when most members

        15       support them -- members representing the

        16       people of this state -- let's put down the

        17       rhetoric, let's get down from the high horse,

        18       let's do something to open government that's

        19       within our power.  And then we won't need to

        20       engage in the debate over this.

        21                  As to the people who say that

        22       referendum and initiative is such a good

        23       thing, I urge you, as some of my colleagues

        24       have, visit California when they're going

        25       through this process.  You will see some of


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         1       the ugliest government and some of the ugliest

         2       influence of big money in politics that you

         3       will ever see in your life.

         4                  Thank you, Madam President.  I will

         5       be voting no.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

         7       you.

         8                  Any other Senator?

         9                  The debate is closed.

        10                  The Secretary will ring the bell.

        11                  On the resolution, the Secretary

        12       will call the roll.

        13                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    The

        15       Secretary will announce the results.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

        17       the negative on Calendar Number 1442 are

        18       Senators Dilan, Gonzalez, Hassell-Thompson,

        19       Huntley, Montgomery, Oppenheimer, Perkins,

        20       Savino, Schneiderman, Stavisky and Thompson.

        21                  Those Senators absent from voting

        22       pursuant to Rule 9:  Alesi, Duane, Golden,

        23       Winner, and Wright.

        24                  Absent from voting:  Senator C.

        25       Kruger.


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         1                  Ayes, 43.  Nays, 11.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    The

         3       concurrent resolution is adopted.

         4                  Senator Bruno.

         5                  SENATOR BRUNO:    Madam President,

         6       can we at this time continue with the calendar

         7       in regular order.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    The

         9       Secretary will read.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        11       221, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 1453,

        12       an act to amend the Correction Law.

        13                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Explanation.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Senator

        15       Nozzolio, an explanation has been requested.

        16                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Thank you,

        17       Madam President.

        18                  Madam President, this bill is not

        19       new for our consideration, in the fact that we

        20       have continued to fight for this measure each

        21       and every year for the past ten years.

        22                  This measure would require the

        23       inmates who are currently incarcerated in

        24       New York State correctional facilities to make

        25       copayments in the amount of $7 for their


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         1       medical treatment.

         2                  This I will state at the outset,

         3       and will probably have to state a number of

         4       times during this debate, that this does not

         5       preclude any inmate who is in need of care

         6       from receiving medical care.

         7                  What this does do is require a

         8       modest copayment for the expenditure of

         9       healthcare.  That many states -- like Arizona,

        10       Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Nevada -- all have

        11       similar programs.  That the Supreme Court of

        12       the United States found that as long as

        13       medical care was received by the inmates, an

        14       adequate or an acceptable reasonable copayment

        15       could be charged.

        16                  This, Madam President, is a measure

        17       that tries to establish equity.  Those

        18       individuals who are guarding the inmates, the

        19       correction officers of our state, have to pay

        20       a copayment.  The individuals who are teaching

        21       the inmates in the correctional facilities

        22       have to make a copayment.  The plumber, the

        23       electrician, those who work in the

        24       correctional facilities have to make a

        25       copayment.


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         1                  That's what we're trying to do with

         2       this measure, establish equity, establish a

         3       sense of fairness, and in so doing help make

         4       our correctional facilities more efficient and

         5       healthcare within those facilities more

         6       effective.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

         8       you, Senator Nozzolio.

         9                  Senator Montgomery.

        10                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Madam

        11       President.  I would like to ask if Senator

        12       Nozzolio would yield for a couple of

        13       questions.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        15       you.

        16                  Senator Nozzolio, do you yield?

        17                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Yes, Madam

        18       President.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    The

        20       Senator yields.

        21                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Senator

        22       Nozzolio, I know that you came up with the

        23       figure of $7 per-visit copayment.  I'm just

        24       wondering, how long does it take the inmate to

        25       work to get $7?  Do you have that figure?


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         1                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Madam

         2       President, the question is how long it will

         3       take an inmate to work to gain $7.  I think it

         4       depends whether or not the inmate is in fact

         5       working in our correctional facilities.

         6                  Work unfortunately is not mandated.

         7       That if Senator Montgomery would like to

         8       mandate a work requirement for all

         9       correctional inmates in our state, I would be

        10       glad to support that.

        11                  But the fact is inmates work on a

        12       voluntary basis.  They make license plates,

        13       they make trash containers for the

        14       metropolitan regions of our state, they make

        15       furniture.  That is part of their

        16       incarceration.  In so doing, they are learning

        17       metal work, they are learning carpentry, they

        18       are learning finishing work, those kinds of --

        19       part of their educational system.

        20                  They also are given free room,

        21       obviously, and free meals.  That is all part

        22       of their incarceration.  It costs

        23       approximately $50,000 a year to house an

        24       inmate in our state correctional facilities.

        25                  This measure, Madam President,


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         1       requires a $7 copay.  Senator Montgomery wants

         2       to know how long it would take for an inmate

         3       to receive $7.  It depends on, Senator, what

         4       type of work the inmate was engaged in.  That

         5       if they were working, wages are below minimum

         6       wage.  I believe they're close in the $3 to $5

         7       range.  So I think that that's as much as I

         8       can present not knowing any further specific

         9       circumstances.

        10                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Madam

        11       President, if Senator Nozzolio would continue

        12       to yield.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        14       you.

        15                  Senator, do you yield?

        16                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    I'll be happy

        17       to yield, Madam President.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    The

        19       Senator yields.

        20                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, I

        21       wasn't clear when I asked the question, so you

        22       gave me much more than I actually needed.  But

        23       thank you anyway.

        24                  I wanted to know, how much does --

        25       what's the maximum hourly rate that an inmate


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         1       can earn based on any of those various and

         2       sundry jobs that you listed -- making the

         3       trash bins for local municipalities, making

         4       the street signs and the stop signs and the

         5       highway signs and all of the other things that

         6       they do, including all of the furniture in the

         7       state?  What's the maximum that they can earn

         8       hourly?

         9                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    I do not have

        10       the figure of the hourly rate with me, Madam

        11       President.  I cannot answer that question.

        12                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    All right.

        13       Thank you.

        14                  Madam President, on the bill.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        16       you.  Senator Montgomery, on the bill.

        17                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Thank you.

        18                  Senator Nozzolio indicated in his

        19       answer that the work is voluntary.  He doesn't

        20       have the hourly rate.  But as far as I know,

        21       it's not as much as $2 an hour.  I think it's

        22       perhaps $2 a day, or some very, very small

        23       amount.  It's way below anything close to a

        24       minimum.  So the issue of whether or not an

        25       inmate has $7 to make a copayment with is a


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         1       huge question.

         2                  I have opposed this legislation

         3       because it's not related to the actual cost of

         4       healthcare.  It doesn't raise funds for that

         5       purpose.  It is stated in the memo to support

         6       the legislation that it is purely punitive,

         7       essentially.  It's done in order to discourage

         8       inmates from utilizing the health facilities,

         9       such as they are, in prison.

        10                  And in the legislation it says

        11       specifically should an inmate not have

        12       sufficient funds in his or her account to

        13       cover the charges, then the account shall be

        14       frozen pending receipt of funds sufficient to

        15       satisfy the obligation.

        16                  So essentially this is an extreme

        17       measure.  It is extremely punitive.  And in

        18       fact, if a person either is not working or is

        19       working and certainly does not earn enough to

        20       come up with a $7 copay, either they don't

        21       access the healthcare or, if they do, they

        22       incur a debt which is held against them until

        23       they either earn or some family member sends

        24       them money to pay.

        25                  So it may discourage people from


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         1       utilizing the health facilities.  There are a

         2       large number of inmates who have chronic

         3       ailments and diseases.  And if those are not

         4       treated when they're incarcerated, we know

         5       that they come back to their community and

         6       very often those diseases come back with them.

         7       So we don't want -- this is a public health

         8       disaster, especially for certain communities,

         9       and it's a health disaster for people who are

        10       incarcerated.

        11                  So I'm going to continue to vote

        12       no.  And since this bill has been around since

        13       1996, I believe it says, there is some reason

        14       why we have not been able to move this

        15       legislation, thankfully.  So we'll just

        16       continue to see it come by, and I will

        17       continue to oppose it.

        18                  Thank you, Madam President.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        20       you.

        21                  Senator Diaz.

        22                  SENATOR DIAZ:    Thank you, Madam

        23       President.

        24                  You know, anyone that knows me --

        25       and people that know me know that I speak what


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         1       I feel, do what I feel, and I am not committed

         2       to anything that I believe is not fair to

         3       people.  When I have to vote with the

         4       Republican side because I believe that the

         5       bill is good for a community, I always do

         6       that.  When I have to vote against my

         7       Democratic colleagues because I believe that a

         8       bill is not so good, I will do that.  So it is

         9       not -- to me, it is not Democrat or

        10       Republican.

        11                  But this is one of those bills,

        12       this is one of those pieces of legislation

        13       that gives the Republican Party a bad name and

        14       make me puke.  This bill makes me [retching

        15       sound], and I'll tell you why.

        16                  You know, she called it extreme;

        17       Senator Montgomery called this an extreme

        18       measure.  I would call it meanspirited.

        19       That's what I would call this bill.  This bill

        20       is one of those bills that doesn't show human

        21       feeling, doesn't show, you know, passion for

        22       people, doesn't show, you know, compassion.

        23       It's like litter for you.

        24                  Seven dollars to an inmate per

        25       visit, and they're in jail.  When you get


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         1       arrested and you get indicted and you get

         2       sentenced, you become property of the state.

         3       You are property of the government.  The

         4       government is responsible for your well-being,

         5       for your health, for whatever.  You are

         6       property of the government.

         7                  And an inmate, as Senator

         8       Montgomery said, you know, they -- I believe

         9       that they make 25 cents a day, if I'm not

        10       mistaken, 25 cents a day or something like

        11       that.  Now the Senator wants them to pay $7

        12       per visit to a doctor, when they have to go to

        13       see a doctor.

        14                  I mean, sometimes I am criticized

        15       by my colleagues, by my friends, and they tell

        16       me "Hey, are you a Republican or are you a

        17       Democrat?"  Because sometimes I vote my

        18       conscience.  How do you explain something like

        19       that to the community?  How can you go to bed,

        20       how do you go to bed and thinking, Oh, I did

        21       something great, I submitted a piece of

        22       legislation asking for $7 for inmates when

        23       they get sick to go see the doctor.  And if

        24       they don't have the money, we freeze their

        25       account until they get the money.


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         1                  In Puerto Rico, we say [Spanish],

         2       meaning I don't know what.

         3                  (Laughter.)

         4                  SENATOR DIAZ:    But, ladies and

         5       gentlemen, come on, stop this meanspirited

         6       bill.  Stop this.  We're supposed to show

         7       human feeling.  We're supposed to understand

         8       suffering.  You understand -- we should

         9       understand, you know, what is this?  Seven

        10       dollars.  My goodness.  My fellow -- my

        11       colleagues on the other side, this one, in

        12       this one you are giving your party a bad name,

        13       a bad, bad name.  And that's what in our

        14       communities sometimes we think about

        15       Republicans, because of this kind of bill.

        16                  Madam President, call me in the

        17       negative, one, two, twice, fourth time, fifth

        18       time, negative.  Thank you.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        20       you, Senator Diaz.

        21                  Is there any other Senator wishing

        22       to be heard?

        23                  Senator Nozzolio, to close the

        24       debate.

        25                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Thank you,


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         1       Madam President and my colleagues.

         2                  I appreciate hearing the passion

         3       exhibited, on behalf of the inmates of this

         4       state who are incarcerated, by the other side

         5       of the aisle.

         6                  I find it so ironic that that other

         7       side of the aisle decided just last March to

         8       cut $775,000 from the Mercy Rehab Nursing Home

         9       in the city of Auburn that would have closed

        10       that healthcare facility.

        11                  I also see the passion on the other

        12       side of the aisle misplaced because you all

        13       voted to cut $150,000 from a very fragile

        14       healthcare facility called Auburn Memorial

        15       Hospital that is on the verge of deciding

        16       whether it can stay open.  It's fighting hard

        17       to stay open, to be the chief healthcare

        18       provider not only for the 70-plus-thousand

        19       citizens immediately in and surrounding Auburn

        20       but also for the 1500 inmates who are in the

        21       Auburn Correctional Facility.

        22                  This bill says that those

        23       incarcerated inmates in Auburn and in every

        24       other correctional facility in this state need

        25       to put $7 on the table when they go to visit a


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         1       healthcare provider.  We're not saying that if

         2       they don't have that $7 that the healthcare

         3       will be denied.  And that was where your

         4       passion was placed, and that's what this bill

         5       says, that you will provide, the state will

         6       provide that assistance.

         7                  But if you have money in your

         8       account -- and inmates in this state, each one

         9       of the 63,000 plus inmates in this state have

        10       a bank account, a physical bank account

        11       managed by the State of New York.  And that

        12       bank account has assets in it that they are

        13       utilizing to buy a lot of things at the

        14       commissary.  The commissary, by the way, where

        15       they can buy things and not pay sales tax.

        16       But that's an issue for another day.

        17                  The fact of the matter is the

        18       inmates of this state should have to

        19       participate in their own healthcare, at least

        20       a small portion.  What is the healthcare copay

        21       of the state employees of this state?  Those

        22       correction officers who are managing those

        23       correctional facilities and putting their

        24       lives on the line have to pay almost three

        25       times a copay than the inmates are being


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         1       suggested to pay under this legislation.

         2                  So, Madam President, I say this.

         3       This measure is to establish equity in our

         4       correctional systems.  It's to try to make our

         5       correctional healthcare provisions more -- not

         6       just equitable, but more efficient.

         7                  Others in this chamber have said,

         8       about healthcare in our prison facilities, go

         9       to a prison facility today and you will see a

        10       long line of individuals who are out there to

        11       get healthcare, at least some of them.  Many

        12       others are out in the same lines because they

        13       have nothing else to do that day and are in

        14       effect taking the time away from the

        15       physicians, taking time away from the

        16       taxpayers, taking money away from the Mercy

        17       Rehab Centers and the Auburn Memorial

        18       Hospitals that are struggling to keep open to

        19       provide assistance, medical care to patients

        20       who are law-abiding citizens.

        21                  Where's your equity, where's your

        22       passion, where's your compassion for those who

        23       are facing healthcare crises?  Where's your

        24       compassion for those who are uninsured?

        25                  We need to save funds.  This is a


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         1       place to save funds to ensure that more

         2       patients will have healthcare.  Madam

         3       President, that's why I'm moving this bill.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

         5       you, Senator Nozzolio.

         6                  The debate is closed.

         7                  The Secretary will ring the bell.

         8                  Read the last section.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        10       act shall take effect on the 120th day.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Call

        12       the roll.

        13                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Senator

        15       Schneiderman, to explain his vote.

        16                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Yes, Madam

        17       President, to explain my vote.

        18                  I just want to refer briefly to

        19       some of the comments that were made during the

        20       debate.

        21                  I've checked, and prisoners who do

        22       have bank accounts make 35 cents an hour.

        23                  We are preparing now for the first

        24       meeting of the sentencing commission that the

        25       Governor is convening tomorrow morning.  One


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         1       of the items on our agenda is reentry.  And

         2       the first principle of reentry is if you let

         3       people out of prison with a small stake, they

         4       have a better chance to avoid recidivism.

         5                  So we are cutting off our nose to

         6       spite our face with this bill.  It will

         7       discourage people who are sick from going to

         8       the doctor.  It will send people out of prison

         9       less capable of reentering society safely.  It

        10       is a bad bill.  And Senator Diaz is correct,

        11       it is in fact a meanspirited bill.  I would

        12       urge all of my colleagues not to take this

        13       self-destructive course.

        14                  I am voting no.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Senator

        16       Schneiderman in the negative.

        17                  Senator Montgomery, to explain her

        18       vote.

        19                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Madam

        20       President, thank you.  I want to rise to

        21       explain my vote.

        22                  Yes, I'm voting no.  And I want to

        23       just say that I'm a little disappointed in my

        24       colleague Senator Nozzolio because I feel like

        25       he's playing political blackmail with us by


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         1       saying that we are for -- we should not be --

         2       we're somehow, as Democrats, coddling the

         3       prisoners.  And that's not the case.  And I

         4       don't think that Senator Nozzolio believes

         5       that either.

         6                  But it's easy to get the citizens

         7       of this state riled up and frightened and

         8       divided based on these kinds of arguments that

         9       somehow, because you believe in a more humane

        10       approach to dealing with the criminal justice

        11       issues, that you are soft on crime or there's

        12       something wrong with you.

        13                  I don't like to be put in that

        14       position.  It's an intimidation tactic to make

        15       you feel guilty about what it is you believe.

        16       But I won't accept that, and I don't think the

        17       citizens of this state accept that.

        18                  This is what it is, and that is

        19       it's meanspirited, it's a mean thing, and it's

        20       very, very bad public health policy.  Because

        21       we do not want people coming to live in

        22       communities with diseases that could have been

        23       treated while they were in prison but they

        24       were not because they were required to pay a

        25       fee.


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         1                  So, Madam President, I vote no.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

         3       you.  Senator Montgomery will be recorded in

         4       the negative.

         5                  Senator Diaz, to explain his vote.

         6                  SENATOR DIAZ:    Yes, I just -- I'm

         7       voting no on this bill.

         8                  But also I'm glad that Senator

         9       Schneiderman clarified the pay rate for the

        10       inmates.  He said that they get 35 cents per

        11       hour.

        12                  And then when we talk about

        13       inmates, that we are supporting inmates, that

        14       they have to pay for their own health, we are

        15       not even taking into consideration the thing

        16       that the inmates contribute to the state.

        17                  You know, they work.  And, you

        18       know, they make license plates.  And you know

        19       the millions of dollars that the government

        20       makes, the government makes in license plates?

        21       And they pay so little money to the inmates to

        22       make those license plates.  Do you know the

        23       money that the government saves painting

        24       buildings, cutting grass, doing furniture,

        25       repairing vehicles, painting vehicles?  You


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         1       know all the money that the government, the

         2       state saves because of the inmates?

         3                  So, ladies and gentlemen, we are

         4       not doing a favor to the inmates.  If we're

         5       going to see exactly the right side of the

         6       law, then they're doing the government a

         7       favor.  They're saving money.  And now we want

         8       them to pay $7 per doctor visit.

         9                  I make $79,000 a year.  That's my

        10       salary, $79,000 -- 79,500?  Okay, $79,500.

        11       When I go to the doctor I pay $15, a $15

        12       copay, and the company pays the rest.  So if I

        13       make $79,000 -- $79,500 a year and I have to

        14       pay $15 per visit, you want to take tell the

        15       inmate that makes 35 cents an hour to pay $7?

        16       Arrr.  I don't know -- I don't know what kind

        17       of hearts some people have.

        18                  But me and my colleagues, we're

        19       voting no.  Thank you.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        21       you.  Senator Diaz will be recorded in the

        22       initiative.

        23                  Senator Sabini, to explain his

        24       vote.

        25                  SENATOR SABINI:    Madam President,


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         1       thank you.  I just wanted to explain my vote.

         2                  I'll be voting in the negative, as

         3       I have in the past.  I haven't spoken on this

         4       before.  But I note in my email inbox today

         5       there was an email from the New York State

         6       Correction Officers, and a correction officer

         7       in an upstate prison has contracted a rare

         8       form of flesh-eating bacteria which has

         9       seriously jeopardized his health.

        10                  And I believe that we want to

        11       encourage people to see physicians when they

        12       need to.  I think it's a workplace health

        13       issue, in the case of a prison, where disease

        14       can spread rather rapidly.

        15                  And for many of the reasons my

        16       colleagues have stated, I will also be voting

        17       no.  Thank you.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        19       you.  Senator Sabini will be recorded in the

        20       negative.

        21                  Senator Connor, to explain his

        22       vote.

        23                  SENATOR CONNOR:    Thank you, Madam

        24       President.

        25                  My colleagues, do the math.  If you


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         1       make 35 cents an hour and you have to go to

         2       the doctor's once, that's 20 hours of your

         3       pay.

         4                  If Senator Nozzolio were proposing

         5       a bill saying an inmate should be charged

         6       50 cents copay, I might have problems with the

         7       principle, but the reasonableness of it would

         8       be hard to fight with.

         9                  Do the math for yourself.  Assume

        10       you only make the 79,500 that we get paid --

        11       and I know that's not true for everybody.  We

        12       actually make more.  So let's do it more

        13       realistically.  Assume you're just a ranking

        14       minority member on a committee; you make

        15       $90,000.  Would it be reasonable to say to go

        16       to the doctor's you should pay an $820 copay?

        17       That's the proportion you're proposing here.

        18       Would you think an $820 copay was a reasonable

        19       token payment toward your healthcare?  That's

        20       assuming you work, you know, 40 hours a week.

        21                  So this bill, besides being

        22       meanspirited, pandering to the public's

        23       disdain for convicted criminals, it's just

        24       plain out of proportion and unreasonable.  You

        25       figure it out.  Half of your week's wages for


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         1       one visit to the doctor?  Now, is that

         2       reasonable?  Would it be reasonable if every

         3       time you or your spouse or one of your kids

         4       went to the doctor you had to pony up $800 as

         5       your copay?  I don't think so, Madam

         6       President.

         7                  This is a bad bill.  It's

         8       meanspirited, as has been said before, but

         9       it's also just not reasonably proportionate to

        10       the income of these inmates.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        12       you.  Senator Connor will be recorded in the

        13       in the negative.

        14                  Announce the results.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

        16       the negative on Calendar Number 221 are

        17       Senators Connor, Diaz, Dilan, Duane, Gonzalez,

        18       Hassell-Thompson, Huntley, L. Krueger,

        19       Montgomery, Onorato, Perkins, Sabini, Sampson,

        20       Savino, Schneiderman, Serrano, Smith,

        21       Stavisky, Stewart-Cousins, and Thompson.  Also

        22       Senator Breslin.  Also Senator Oppenheimer.

        23                  Absent from voting pursuant to

        24       Rule 9:  Senators Golden and Wright.

        25                  Absent from voting:  Senator C.


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         1       Kruger.

         2                  Ayes, 34.  Nays, 22.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    The

         4       bill is passed.

         5                  Senator Duane, why do you rise?

         6                  SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you, Madam

         7       President.

         8                  Pursuant to Rule 9, I was required

         9       to be at a public meeting of the Article 10

        10       conference committee, and I missed voting

        11       something.  But I'm allowed to do it now, as

        12       you know.  So I would like to cast my vote for

        13       S6020, Calendar Number 1442, in the negative.

        14                  Thank you, Madam President.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        16       you.  You will be so recorded, Senator Duane.

        17                  Senator Skelos.

        18                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

        19       if we could lay aside for the day the balance

        20       of the controversial calendar.

        21                  And there will be an immediate

        22       meeting of the Rules Committee in the Majority

        23       Conference Room.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    The

        25       bills are laid aside for the day.


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         1                  There is an immediate meeting of

         2       the Rules Committee in the Majority Conference

         3       Room.  The Senate will stand at ease.

         4                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

         5       ease at 5:19 p.m.)

         6                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

         7       at 5:31 p.m.)

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Senator

         9       Skelos.

        10                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

        11       if we could return to the order of motions and

        12       resolutions.

        13                  On behalf of Senator Flanagan, on

        14       page number 26 I offer the following

        15       amendments to Calendar Number 740, Print

        16       Number 830, and ask that said bill retain its

        17       place on the Third Reading Calendar.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        19       you, Senator.  The amendments are received and

        20       adopted, and the bill will retain its place on

        21       the Third Reading Calendar.

        22                  SENATOR SKELOS:    On behalf of

        23       Senator Golden, on page number 37 I offer the

        24       following amendments to Calendar Number 952,

        25       Senate Print Number 4078, and ask that said


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         1       bill retain its place on the Third Reading

         2       Calendar.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

         4       you.  The amendments are received and adopted,

         5       and the bill will retain its place on the

         6       Third Reading Calendar.

         7                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

         8       on behalf of Senator DeFrancisco, on page

         9       number 41 I offer the following amendments to

        10       Calendar Number 1012, Senate Print Number

        11       2059A, and ask that said bill retain its place

        12       on the Third Reading Calendar.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        14       you.  The amendments are received and adopted,

        15       and the bill will retain its place on the

        16       Third Reading Calendar.

        17                  Senator Skelos.

        18                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

        19       if we could return to the order of reports of

        20       standing committees, there's a report of the

        21       Rules Committee at the desk.  I ask that it be

        22       read at this time.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        24       you.

        25                  The Secretary will read.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator Bruno,

         2       from the Committee on Rules, reports the

         3       following bills:

         4                  Senate Print 52, by Senator

         5       Maziarz, an act to amend the Vehicle and

         6       Traffic Law;

         7                  64, by Senator Padavan, an act to

         8       amend the County Law;

         9                  231, by Senator Larkin, an act to

        10       amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

        11                  328, by Senator Nozzolio, an act to

        12       amend the Criminal Procedure Law;

        13                  613, by Senator Marcellino, an act

        14       to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

        15                  888, by Senator Trunzo, an act to

        16       amend the General Municipal Law;

        17                  921, by Senator O. Johnson, an act

        18       to amend the Tax Law;

        19                  1483, by Senator Skelos, an act to

        20       amend the General Municipal Law;

        21                  1532, by Senator Fuschillo, an act

        22       to amend the Penal Law;

        23                  1590, by Senator Libous, an act to

        24       amend the Tax Law;

        25                  1618A, by Senator Maziarz, an act


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         1       in relation;

         2                  1703, by Senator Robach, an act to

         3       amend the Criminal Procedure Law;

         4                  1757, by Senator Rath, an act to

         5       amend the Penal Law;

         6                  1843, by Senator Farley, an act to

         7       amend the Criminal Procedure Law;

         8                  2019, by Senator Larkin, an act to

         9       amend the Agriculture and Markets Law;

        10                  2036, by Senator Young, an act to

        11       amend the Tax Law;

        12                  2177, by Senator Lanza, an act to

        13       amend the Tax Law;

        14                  2334, by Senator Rath, an act to

        15       amend the Real Property Tax Law;

        16                  2343, by Senator Little, an act to

        17       amend the Tax Law;

        18                  2420, by Senator DeFrancisco, an

        19       act to amend the Penal Law;

        20                  2445, by Senator Morahan, an act to

        21       amend Chapter 425 of the Laws of 2006;

        22                  2554, by Senator C. Kruger, an act

        23       to amend the Family Court Act;

        24                  2934, by Senator Marcellino, an act

        25       to authorize;


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         1                  3092, by Senator Volker, an act to

         2       amend the Executive Law;

         3                  3234, by Senator Winner, an act to

         4       amend the New York State Urban Development

         5       Corporation Act;

         6                  3329, by Senator Flanagan, an act

         7       to amend the Penal Law;

         8                  3551, by Senator Young, an act to

         9       authorize;

        10                  3759, by Senator Seward, an act to

        11       amend the Abandoned Property Law;

        12                  3917, by Senator Skelos, an act to

        13       amend the Retirement and Social Security Law;

        14                  4168, by Senator LaValle, an act to

        15       amend the Criminal Procedure Law;

        16                  4259, by Senator Wright, an act to

        17       amend the Tax Law;

        18                  4265, by Senator Bonacic, an act to

        19       amend the Executive Law;

        20                  4268, by Senator Golden, an act to

        21       amend the Criminal Procedure Law;

        22                  4860, by the Senate Committee on

        23       Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law;

        24                  5170, by Senator Morahan, an act to

        25       amend the Executive Law;


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         1                  5315, by Senator Fuschillo, an act

         2       to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

         3                  5731, by the Senate Committee on

         4       Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law;

         5                  5926, by Senator L. Krueger, an act

         6       to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law;

         7                  5945, by Senator Padavan, an act to

         8       amend the Real Property Tax Law;

         9                  5958, by Senator Saland, an act to

        10       amend the Highway Law;

        11                  6003, by Senator Griffo, an act to

        12       amend Chapter 92 of the Laws of 2001;

        13                  1325A, by Senator Lanza, an act to

        14       amend the Judiciary Law;

        15                  3947A, by Senator Skelos, an act to

        16       amend the Tax Law;

        17                  4304B, by Senator Fuschillo, an act

        18       to amend the Executive Law;

        19                  5517, by Senator Fuschillo, an act

        20       to amend the Penal Law;

        21                  5965, by Senator Little, an act to

        22       authorize;

        23                  And Senate Print 5974, by Senator

        24       Fuschillo, an act to amend the Vehicle and

        25       Traffic Law.


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         1                  All bills ordered direct to third

         2       reading.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Senator

         4       Skelos.

         5                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Madam President,

         6       move to accept the report of the Rules

         7       Committee.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    All

         9       those in favor of accepting the Rules report

        10       say aye.

        11                  (Response of "Aye.")

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Those

        13       opposed.

        14                  (No response.)

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    The

        16       Rules report is accepted.

        17                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Would you please

        18       recognize Senator Stachowski.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Senator

        20       Stachowski.

        21                  SENATOR STACHOWSKI:    Madam

        22       President, on behalf of Senator Volker, I'd

        23       like to remind all the members -- and

        24       hopefully their offices are listening to

        25       remind them -- that tomorrow morning is the


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         1       service for the deceased legislators at

         2       8:00 a.m. at St. Mary's Church.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

         4       you, Senator.

         5                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Thank you,

         6       Senator Stachowski.

         7                  There being no further business to

         8       come before the Senate, I move we stand

         9       adjourned until Wednesday, June 6th, at

        10       11:00 a.m.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT LITTLE:    Thank

        12       you.  On motion, the Senate stands adjourned

        13       until Wednesday, June 6th, at 11:00 a.m.

        14                  (Whereupon, at 5:35 p.m., the

        15       Senate adjourned.)

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