Regular Session - July 16, 2007

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         1                 NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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         3

         4                THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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         9                   ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                     July 16, 2007

        11                       2:15 p.m.

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        14                    REGULAR SESSION

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        18  SENATOR GEORGE D. MAZIARZ, Acting President

        19  STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

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         1                 P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

         3       Senate will come to order.

         4                  And I ask that everyone present

         5       please rise and repeat with me the Pledge of

         6       Allegiance.

         7                  (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

         8       the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

        10       invocation today will be given by the Reverend

        11       Peter G. Young.

        12                  Father Young.

        13                  REVEREND YOUNG:    Thank you,

        14       Senator.

        15                  Let us pray.

        16                  As we look out the window today and

        17       see Your beauty displayed for the crowds at

        18       the plaza bathing in the sunshine, we would

        19       enjoy that same time of relaxation, but state

        20       responsibilities have called the Senate to

        21       fulfill their oath of office.

        22                  Because of the dedication of our

        23       Senators, we call You, O God, to bless them

        24       with strength and good health so that they can

        25       provide needed leadership to our New York


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         1       State citizens.

         2                  May their legislative session today

         3       promote continued progressive agendas that

         4       will improve the quality of life for all of

         5       our residents in New York State.

         6                  We ask You this now through God.

         7                  Amen.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

         9       reading of the Journal.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

        11       Sunday, July 15, the Senate met pursuant to

        12       adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday,

        13       July 14, was read and approved.  On motion,

        14       Senate adjourned.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:

        16       Without objection, the Journal stands approved

        17       as read.

        18                  Presentation of petitions.

        19                  Messages from the Assembly.

        20                  Messages from the Governor.

        21                  Reports of standing committees.

        22                  Reports of select committees.

        23                  Communications and reports from

        24       state officers.

        25                  Motions and resolutions.


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         1                  Senator Fuschillo.

         2                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.

         3       President, on behalf of Senator Klein, I move

         4       the following bill be discharged from its

         5       respective committee and be recommitted with

         6       instructions to strike the enacting clause:

         7       Senate Print Number 3126B.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    So

         9       ordered.

        10                  Senator Fuschillo.

        11                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.

        12       President, on behalf of Senator Young, I wish

        13       to call up Senate Print Number 5676A, recalled

        14       from the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

        16       Secretary will read.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        18       1672, by Senator Young, Senate Print 5676A, an

        19       act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:

        21       Senator Fuschillo.

        22                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.

        23       President, I now move to reconsider the vote

        24       by which the bill was passed.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    Call


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         1       the roll on reconsideration.

         2                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 45.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

         5       bill is restored to its place on the Third

         6       Reading Calendar.

         7                  Senator Fuschillo.

         8                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.

         9       President, I now move to recommit the bill to

        10       the Committee on Rules.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    So

        12       ordered.

        13                  Senator Fuschillo.

        14                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    On behalf of

        15       Senator Winner, I move that the following bill

        16       be discharged from its respective committee

        17       and be recommitted with instructions to strike

        18       the enacting clause:  Senate Print Number

        19       6375.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    So

        21       ordered.

        22                  Senator Fuschillo.

        23                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    On behalf of

        24       Senator Golden, I wish to call up Senate Print

        25       Number 1288A, recalled from the Assembly,


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         1       which is now at the desk.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

         3       Secretary will read.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         5       1835, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 1288A,

         6       an act to amend the Social Services Law.

         7                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now move to

         8       reconsider the vote by which the bill was

         9       passed and ask that the bill will be restored

        10       to the order of third reading.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    Call

        12       the roll on reconsideration.

        13                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 45.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

        16       bill is restored to its place on the Third

        17       Reading Calendar.

        18                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now offer

        19       the following amendments.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

        21       amendments are received.

        22                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.

        23       President, I now move to discharge, from the

        24       Committee on Rules, Assembly Print Number

        25       3300A and substitute it for the identical


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         1       Senate bill.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:

         3       Substitution ordered.

         4                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now move

         5       that the substituted Assembly bill have its

         6       third reading at this time.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

         8       Secretary will read.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        10       1835, substituted earlier by Member of the

        11       Assembly Millman, Assembly Print Number 3300A,

        12       an act to amend the Social Services Law and

        13       the Public Authorities Law.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    Read

        15       the last section.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    Call

        19       the roll.

        20                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 45.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

        23       bill is passed.

        24                  Senator Fuschillo.

        25                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.


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         1       President, on behalf of Senator Robach, I wish

         2       to call up Senate Print Number 6347, recalled

         3       from the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

         5       Secretary will read.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         7       2068, by Senator Robach, Senate Print 6347, an

         8       act establishing the City of Rochester and the

         9       Board of Education.

        10                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now move to

        11       reconsider the vote by which the bill was

        12       passed and ask that the bill be restored to

        13       the order of third reading.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    Call

        15       the roll on reconsideration.

        16                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 45.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

        19       bill is restored to its place on the Third

        20       Reading Calendar.

        21                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now offer

        22       the following amendments.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

        24       amendments are received.

        25                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.


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         1       President, I now move to discharge, from the

         2       Committee on Rules, Assembly Print Number 9227

         3       and substitute it for the identical Senate

         4       bill.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:

         6       Substitution ordered.

         7                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now move

         8       that the substituted Assembly bill have its

         9       third reading at this time.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

        11       Secretary will read.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        13       2068, substituted earlier by Member of the

        14       Assembly Gantt, Assembly Print Number 9227, an

        15       act establishing the City of Rochester and the

        16       Board of Education.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    Read

        18       the last section.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    Call

        22       the roll.

        23                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 45.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The


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         1       bill is passed.

         2                  Senator Fuschillo.

         3                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    Mr.

         4       President, on behalf of Senator Wright, I wish

         5       to call up Senate Print Number 4261A, recalled

         6       from the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

         8       Secretary will read.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        10       1844, by Senator Wright, Senate Print 4261A,

        11       an act to amend Chapter 519 of the Laws of

        12       1999.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:

        14       Senator Fuschillo.

        15                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now move to

        16       reconsider the vote by which the bill was

        17       passed and ask that the bill be restored to

        18       the Third Reading Calendar.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    Call

        20       the roll on reconsideration.

        21                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 45.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

        24       bill is restored to its place on the Third

        25       Reading Calendar.


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         1                  Senator Fuschillo.

         2                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    I now move to

         3       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

         4       Assembly Print Number 7823A and substitute it

         5       for the identical Senate bill.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:

         7       Substitution ordered.

         8                  SENATOR FUSCHILLO:    The Senate

         9       bill on first passage was voted unanimously.

        10       I now move that the substituted Assembly bill

        11       have its third reading at this time.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

        13       Secretary will read.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        15       1844, substituted earlier by Member of the

        16       Assembly Schimminger, Assembly Print Number

        17       7823A, an act to amend Chapter 519 of the Laws

        18       of 1999 amending the Alcoholic Beverage

        19       Control Law.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    Read

        21       the last section.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        23       act shall take effect immediately.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    Call

        25       the roll.


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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 45.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    The

         4       bill is passed.

         5                  Senator Skelos.

         6                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

         7       there will be an immediate meeting of the

         8       Finance Committee in the Majority Conference

         9       Room.

        10                  The Senate will stand at ease.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT MAZIARZ:    There

        12       will be an immediate meeting of the Senate

        13       Finance Committee in the Majority Conference

        14       Room.

        15                  The Senate will stand at ease.

        16                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        17       ease at 2:21 p.m.)

        18                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        19       at 2:36 p.m.)

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT SEWARD:    Senator

        21       Skelos.

        22                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        23       if we could return to the order of motions and

        24       resolutions.

        25                  With the consent of the Minority,


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         1       Senator Little has a resolution, 3141.  If we

         2       could have it read at this time, just the

         3       title.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT SEWARD:    The

         5       Secretary will read.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

         7       Little, Legislative Resolution Number 3141,

         8       congratulating Dr. Dan O'Keeffe upon the

         9       occasion of capturing a gold medal in tennis

        10       doubles at the 2007 National Senior Olympics.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT SEWARD:    Senator

        12       Little.

        13                  SENATOR LITTLE:    Thank you,

        14       Mr. President.

        15                  Frequently we are joined in the

        16       gallery by some great athletes.  We've had

        17       teams who have won state championships, we

        18       have had college teams that have won NCAA

        19       championships, and we've all been very proud

        20       of them.

        21                  But I'm very proud today to have a

        22       constituent and friend here today with us,

        23       Dr. Dan O'Keeffe.

        24                  Dr. O'Keeffe, originally from North

        25       Creek, in Warren County, practiced medicine --


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         1       OB/GYN -- in Glens Falls for a number of

         2       years.  And upon retirement -- actually,

         3       before he retired, he took up tennis and has

         4       been quite the tennis player.

         5                  For 16 years, Dr. Dan O'Keeffe

         6       would travel to Texas with the Australian

         7       great, Roy Emerson, and he spearheaded many

         8       tennis tournaments in Glens Falls that were

         9       held at the Glens Falls Tennis and Swim Club.

        10                  But recently Dr. Dan O'Keeffe has

        11       participated in the National Senior Olympics.

        12       Last year he won the New York State Senior

        13       Olympic Title, and that qualified him to

        14       attend the National Olympics that were held

        15       this year, on July 3rd, in Louisville,

        16       Kentucky.

        17                  Dr. Dan and his partner, Ed Gall,

        18       defeated a team from Kentucky in the

        19       semifinals and a team from Texas in the

        20       finals, winning in 6-3, 6-4.

        21                  But what's even more important than

        22       winning the gold medal -- although that is

        23       very important -- is that we have a person

        24       whose character and abilities and achievements

        25       have really been recognized at this level.


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         1                  And I also would add that he won in

         2       the 85-to-90-year-old class, which I think is

         3       pretty spectacular.

         4                  He serves as a wonderful example

         5       for seniors and for all people in New York

         6       State that when we retire, an active life,

         7       with a little competition thrown in for spice,

         8       can really serve us well and help us to be

         9       better people, better citizens, and certainly

        10       have a better quality of life.

        11                  So it's with a great deal of pride

        12       that I recognize Dr. O'Keeffe today, who's

        13       here with a friend, with his daughter-in-law

        14       and with his grandson, who is following in his

        15       grandfather's footsteps, in that he's going to

        16       participate in the Iron Man competition this

        17       weekend.

        18                  But we're all very proud of Dr. Dan

        19       and the wonderful example that he sets.  He's

        20       been a great community member, a great

        21       professional person, having been down here for

        22       many years with the New York State Medical

        23       Society, but here today to be honored for this

        24       achievement.

        25                  And I would ask you all to join me


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         1       in recognizing Dr. Dan O'Keeffe, the winner of

         2       the 2007 National Senior Olympics gold medal

         3       for the 85-to-90-year class.

         4                  Thank you.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT SEWARD:    Thank

         6       you.

         7                  Senator Farley.

         8                  SENATOR FARLEY:    Thank you,

         9       Mr. President.

        10                  I also rise to salute Dr. O'Keeffe,

        11       who comes from one of the most remarkable

        12       Irish families.  They're full of doctors, to

        13       say the least.  They are a remarkable family,

        14       having come from North Creek.  I was just

        15       north of there, in Indian Lake, when I was

        16       growing up.  And I've read his book -- he's

        17       also an author -- talking about a little bit

        18       of heaven and so forth, right near -- I've

        19       read the book.

        20                  He was a skier and an athlete even

        21       as a young man.  And I've seen him in his book

        22       with pictures of a lot of young ladies and so

        23       forth.  So he had a lot of attributes that

        24       were not only athletic but social.

        25                  Dr. O'Keeffe is a remarkable man


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         1       and comes from a remarkable family.  And I

         2       believe he was president of the New York State

         3       Medical Society and has represented the

         4       medical profession in Glens Falls and that

         5       area in an outstanding way.

         6                  I also hear from him quite

         7       frequently, as he spends his winters in

         8       Sarasota, Florida.

         9                  And, Dr.  O'Keeffe, we're so proud

        10       of you.  I just can't believe that at your

        11       young age you're participating in the Olympics

        12       and winning gold medals and so forth.  You

        13       O'Keeffes never cease to amaze.  And it's

        14       remarkable what you can accomplish.

        15                  And we're very, very proud of you,

        16       and I'm very pleased to rise in support of

        17       Senator Little's resolution.  Congratulations

        18       and best wishes to you and your remarkable

        19       family.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT SEWARD:    The

        21       question is on the resolution.  All those in

        22       favor signify by saying aye.

        23                  (Response of "Aye.")

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT SEWARD:

        25       Opposed, nay.


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         1                  (No response.)

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT SEWARD:    The

         3       resolution is adopted.

         4                  And on behalf of Senator Little and

         5       all members of the State Senate, I'm delighted

         6       to congratulate Dr. O'Keeffe on this very

         7       important honor.

         8                  (Applause.)

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT SEWARD:    Senator

        10       Skelos.

        11                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        12       there will be an immediate meeting of the

        13       Rules Committee in the Majority Conference

        14       Room.

        15                  And if we could stand at ease.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT SEWARD:    There

        17       will be an immediate meeting of the Rules

        18       Committee in the Majority Conference Room,

        19       Room 332.

        20                  And the Senate stands at ease.

        21                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        22       ease at 2:43 p.m.)

        23                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        24       at 3:05 p.m.)

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator


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         1       Skelos.

         2                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

         3       if we could return to reports of standing

         4       committees and take up the Finance Committee

         5       report at this time.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Reports

         7       of standing committees.

         8                  The Secretary will read.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator O.

        10       Johnson, from the Committee on Finance,

        11       reports the following nominations.

        12                  As a member of the New York State

        13       Olympic Regional Development Authority, Joseph

        14       J. Martens, of Glenmont.

        15                  As a banking member of the State

        16       Banking Board, Robert M. Fisher, of Owego.

        17                  As a member of the Palisades

        18       Interstate Park Commission, Howard G. Seitz,

        19       of Rye.

        20                  As members of the Advisory Council

        21       on Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Services,

        22       Frederick K. Reich, of Albany, and John

        23       Tavolacci, of East Williston.

        24                  As members of the Advisory Council

        25       to the Commission on Quality of Care and


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         1       Advocacy for Persons With Disabilities, Mary

         2       Hope Derby, of Geneseo; Loretta Goff, of

         3       Westbury; and Richard P. Johnson, of

         4       Schenectady.

         5                  As a member of the Council on Human

         6       Blood and Transfusion Services, Kathleen M.

         7       Grima, M.D., of Rye.

         8                  As a member of the Mental Health

         9       Services Council, John Kastan, Ph.D., of

        10       New York City.

        11                  As a member of the Board of

        12       Visitors of the New York State Home for

        13       Veterans and Their Dependents at Batavia,

        14       Barbara M. Green, of East Rochester.

        15                  As a member of the Board of

        16       Visitors of the Bronx Psychiatric Center,

        17       Yvonne E. Chappell, of the Bronx.

        18                  And as a member of the Western

        19       New York Children's Psychiatric Center, Thomas

        20       M. Dubay, of Springville.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        22       Johnson.

        23                  SENATOR OWEN JOHNSON:    Move the

        24       nominations.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The


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         1       question is on the nominees as read by the

         2       Secretary.  All in favor signify by saying

         3       aye.

         4                  (Response of "Aye.")

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:

         6       Opposed, nay.

         7                  (No response.)

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         9       nominees are hereby confirmed.

        10                  Senator Skelos.

        11                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        12       if we could now go to the Rules report and

        13       have it read at this time.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        15       Secretary will read.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator Bruno,

        17       from the Committee on Rules, reports the

        18       following bills.

        19                  Senate bills restored:

        20                  Senate Print 2887, by Senator

        21       Maziarz, an act to amend the Labor Law;

        22                  4025A, by Senator DeFrancisco, an

        23       act to amend the Family Court Act;

        24                  5506A, by Senator Flanagan, an act

        25       to amend the Labor Law;


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         1                  6378, by Senator Alesi, an act in

         2       relation to redistributing;

         3                  6384, by Senator Golden, an act to

         4       amend the Real Property Tax Law;

         5                  And Senate Print 6386, by Senator

         6       Padavan, an act to amend the General City Law.

         7                  Senate bills reported:

         8                  Senate Print 5430A, by Senator

         9       Maziarz, an act to amend the General Municipal

        10       Law;

        11                  5735A, by Senator C. Johnson, an

        12       act in relation to authorizing;

        13                  6095A, by Senator Maltese, an act

        14       to amend the Election Law;

        15                  6393, by Senator Padavan, an act to

        16       amend the Public Authorities Law;

        17                  6400, by the Senate Committee on

        18       Rules, an act to amend the Real Property Tax

        19       Law;

        20                  6406, by Senator Skelos, an act to

        21       amend the Executive Law;

        22                  6414, by Senator Golden, an act to

        23       amend the Penal Law;

        24                  6417, by Senator Bruno, an act to

        25       amend the Real Property Tax Law;


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         1                  6420, by the Senate Committee on

         2       Rules, an act to authorize the City of

         3       New York;

         4                  6422, by Senator Nozzolio, an act

         5       to amend the Correction Law;

         6                  And Senate Print 6423, by Senator

         7       Nozzolio, an act to amend the Correction Law.

         8                  All bills ordered direct to third

         9       reading.

        10                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        12       Skelos.

        13                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Move to accept

        14       the report of the Rules Committee.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    All in

        16       favor signify by saying aye.

        17                  (Response of "Aye.")

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:

        19       Opposed, nay.

        20                  (Response of "Nay.")

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        22       report is accepted.

        23                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        24       would you please recognize Senator Dilan.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator


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         1       Dilan.

         2                  SENATOR DILAN:    Mr. President, at

         3       this time we'd like to call for a Minority

         4       conference in Room 315.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    There

         6       will be an immediate meeting of the Minority

         7       conference in Room 315.

         8                  SENATOR SKELOS:    And if we could

         9       stand at ease.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        11       Senate will stand at ease.

        12                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        13       ease at 3:10 p.m.)

        14                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        15       at 3:48 p.m.)

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        17       Skelos.

        18                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Mr. President,

        19       if we could now take up Senate Calendar Number

        20       66, noncontroversial.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        22       Secretary will read.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        24       Calendar Number 180, Senator Maziarz moves to

        25       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,


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         1       Assembly Bill Number 6209 and substitute it

         2       for the identical Senate Bill Number 2887,

         3       Third Reading Calendar 180.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:

         5       Substitution ordered.

         6                  The Secretary will read.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         8       180, by Member of the Assembly John, Assembly

         9       Print Number 6209, an act to amend the Labor

        10       Law.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

        12       the last section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        16       the roll.

        17                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        20       bill is passed.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        22       Calendar Number 498, Senator DeFrancisco moves

        23       to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        24       Assembly Bill Number 6847B and substitute it

        25       for the identical Senate Bill Number 4025A,


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         1       Third Reading Calendar 498.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         3       substitution is ordered.

         4                  The Secretary will read.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       498, by Member of the Assembly Weinstein,

         7       Assembly Print Number 6847B, an act to amend

         8       the Family Court Act.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

        10       the last section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        14       the roll.

        15                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        18       bill is passed.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        20       Calendar Number 1854, Senator Flanagan moves

        21       to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        22       Assembly Bill Number 8582A and substitute it

        23       for the identical Senate Bill Number 5506A,

        24       Third Reading Calendar 1854.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The


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         1       substitution is so ordered.

         2                  The Secretary will read.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         4       1854, by Member of the Assembly Alessi,

         5       Assembly Print Number 8582A, an act to amend

         6       the Labor Law and the General Municipal Law.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

         8       the last section.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 11.  This

        10       act shall take effect on the 90th day.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        12       the roll.

        13                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        16       bill is passed.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        18       Calendar Number 2072, Senator Alesi moves to

        19       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        20       Assembly Bill Number 7334A and substitute it

        21       for the identical Senate Bill Number 6378,

        22       Third Reading Calendar 2072.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:

        24       Substitution ordered.

        25                  The Secretary will read.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         2       2072, by Member of the Assembly Hoyt, Assembly

         3       Print Number 7334A, an act in relation to

         4       redistributing 2006 bond volume allocations.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

         6       the last section.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         8       act shall take effect immediately.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        10       the roll.

        11                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        14       bill is passed.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        16       Calendar Number 2116, Senator Golden moves to

        17       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        18       Assembly Bill Number 9293 and substitute it

        19       for the identical Senate Bill Number 6384,

        20       Third Reading Calendar 2116.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        22       substitution is so ordered.

        23                  The Secretary will read.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        25       2116, by Member of the Assembly V. Lopez,


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         1       Assembly --

         2                  SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

         3       please.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         5       bill is laid aside.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

         7       Calendar Number 2117, Senator Padavan moves to

         8       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

         9       Assembly Bill Number 9304 and substitute it

        10       for the identical Senate Bill Number 6386,

        11       Third Reading Calendar 2117.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        13       substitution is so ordered.

        14                  The Secretary will read.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        16       2117, by Member of the Assembly Nolan,

        17       Assembly Print Number 9304, an act to amend

        18       the General City Law.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

        20       the last section.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        22       act shall take effect on the same date and in

        23       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of

        24       2007.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call


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         1       the roll.

         2                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         5       bill is passed.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         7       2121, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 5430A,

         8       an act to amend the General Municipal Law.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

        10       the last section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        14       the roll.

        15                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        17       Krueger, to explain her vote.

        18                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you,

        19       Mr. President.

        20                  Well, when we were last here a few

        21       weeks ago we had a long debate about whether

        22       or not we were reforming IDAs, whether we were

        23       extending the bill, how long.  And we didn't

        24       resolve the bigger question of the need to

        25       reform IDAs.


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         1                  So I would argue that we shouldn't

         2       be doing piecemeal new insertions into a bad

         3       need-to-be-reformed IDA law.  And this

         4       concerns me particularly because it talks

         5       about "residential facility" in the memo, but

         6       then when you read the bill you learn that

         7       you're talking about condominiums that an IDA

         8       would be allowed to make tax-exempt and

         9       authorized bonds for.  And in fact, these

        10       could be luxury housing.

        11                  And so I think that financing

        12       housing developments, exempting them from

        13       taxes and offering bonds is not something that

        14       IDAs were intended for; it's what housing

        15       agencies were intended for.

        16                  So I think this is a mistake as a

        17       model and a mistake for us to continue to

        18       fiddle with the IDA law without actually

        19       reforming the IDA law.  So I vote no.

        20                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        22       L. Krueger will be recorded in the negative.

        23                  Senator Schneiderman, to explain

        24       his vote.

        25                  SENATOR ONORATO:    What bill are


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         1       we on?

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Bill

         3       Number 2121 -- excuse me, on the calendar --

         4       5430A, the bill number.  Senator Maziarz is

         5       the sponsor.

         6                  Announce the results.

         7                  Senator Oppenheimer.

         8                  SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:    Can we just

         9       have one moment, please.  We seem to have a

        10       confusion.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        12       Duane.

        13                  SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you,

        14       Mr. President.

        15                  I just want to remind my

        16       colleagues, particularly on this side of the

        17       aisle, that the calendar that we're following

        18       is the Number 66 calendar.  If you like to use

        19       the scorecard, this would be the one to use,

        20       to follow.  Unless things go out of order,

        21       which may always happen.  But things seem to

        22       be going in order, so this would be the

        23       official scorecard of the New York State

        24       Senate and the New York Mets.

        25                  Thank you, Mr. President.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Thank

         2       you, Senator Duane.

         3                  Announce the results.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

         5       the negative on Calendar Number 2121 are

         6       Senators Adams, Duane, Gonzalez,

         7       Hassell-Thompson, L. Krueger, Montgomery,

         8       Onorato, Oppenheimer, Perkins, Schneiderman,

         9       Serrano, Stavisky and Stewart-Cousins.

        10                  Ayes, 47.  Nays, 13.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        14       Calendar Number 2122, Senator C. Johnson moves

        15       to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        16       Assembly Bill Number 8462A and substitute it

        17       for the identical Senate Bill Number 5735A,

        18       Third Reading Calendar 2122.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        20       substitution so ordered.

        21                  There is a home-rule message at the

        22       desk.

        23                  The Secretary will read.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        25       2122, by Member of the Assembly Schimel,


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         1       Assembly Print Number 8462A, an act in

         2       relation to authorizing.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

         4       the last section.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         6       act shall take effect immediately.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

         8       the roll.

         9                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                  (Applause.)

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:

        15       Congratulations, Senator.

        16                  The Secretary will read.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        18       Calendar Number 2123, Senator Maltese moves to

        19       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        20       Assembly Bill Number 6997A and substitute it

        21       for the identical Senate Bill Number 6095A,

        22       Third Reading Calendar 2123.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:

        24       Substitution ordered.

        25                  The Secretary will read.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         2       2123, by Member of the Assembly V. Lopez,

         3       Assembly Print Number 6997A, an act to amend

         4       the Election Law.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

         6       the last section.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         8       act shall take effect on the 30th day.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        10       the roll.

        11                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

        13       1.  Senator Saland recorded in the negative.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        15       bill is passed.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        17       2124, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 6393,

        18       an act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

        19                  SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

        20       please.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        22       bill is laid aside.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        24       Calendar Number 2125, Senator Bruno moves to

        25       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,


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         1       Assembly Bill Number 9305 and substitute it

         2       for the identical Senate Bill Number 6400,

         3       Third Reading Calendar 2125.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         5       substitution is so ordered.

         6                  The Secretary will read.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         8       2125, by Member of the Assembly V. Lopez,

         9       Assembly Print Number 9305, an act to amend

        10       the Real Property Tax Law.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

        12       the last section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        14       act shall take effect on the same date and in

        15       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of

        16       2007.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        18       the roll.

        19                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.  Nays,

        21       2.  Senators L. Krueger and Montgomery

        22       recorded in the negative.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        24       bill is passed.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number


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         1       2126, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 6406, an

         2       act to amend the Executive Law.

         3                  SENATOR DUANE:    Lay it aside,

         4       please.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         6       bill is laid aside.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         8       2127, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 6414, an

         9       act to amend the Penal Law and the Criminal

        10       Procedure Law.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

        12       the last section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 6.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        16       the roll.

        17                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        19       Schneiderman, to explain his vote.

        20                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Yes,

        21       ladies and gentlemen, I just want to make it

        22       clear that this is another death penalty bill.

        23       My colleagues largely on this side of the

        24       aisle have voted against it in the past.

        25                  And for all of the same reasons


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         1       that we have voted against it in the past, we

         2       are voting against it today.

         3                  Thank you.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         5       Diaz.

         6                  SENATOR DIAZ:    Yeah,

         7       Mr. President, I just want to explain my vote.

         8                  And I'm voting against this bill

         9       because I don't believe in the death penalty.

        10       I believe that all life is sacred in all

        11       stages, from conception to the end.  So

        12       therefore, I cannot support any bill that

        13       takes away life.  Life should be protected,

        14       again at all stages.

        15                  So I'm voting against this bill.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        17       Diaz will be recorded in the negative.

        18                  Senator Golden, to explain his

        19       vote.

        20                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    Thank you,

        21       Mr. President.

        22                  I rise today and had hoped that

        23       more of my colleagues would be voting for this

        24       bill today, especially when we see the number

        25       of police officers that have been killed.


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         1       There are an average of 165 police officers

         2       killed in this country annually, and a number

         3       of over 500 are gunned down, shot here in this

         4       nation.  And here we see, here in this city,

         5       five killed in this past year, 10 since

         6       November 5th of 2005.

         7                  We need to be able to give the

         8       police department and to give this state the

         9       tools it needs to stop the killing of officers

        10       and state troopers here in the State of

        11       New York.  We've seen time after time -- in

        12       Trooper Sperr, in their testimony, where the

        13       testimony went back and forth and said:  Hey,

        14       you do a little time or a lot of time.  They

        15       can't kill you; there's no death penalty.  And

        16       then they went and killed Trooper Sperr.

        17                  And we see the same thing of

        18       recent -- this past week, for three

        19       individuals gunned down, two New York City

        20       police officers, killing one of them.  They

        21       had nothing to lose.  They were going back to

        22       jail.  Nothing to face, nothing to worry

        23       about.  The only way that they thought that

        24       they would get away was by killing that

        25       officer, because they knew that they wouldn't


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         1       get a death penalty, that they would go to

         2       jail.  Maybe a little time, maybe a lot of

         3       time.

         4                  But those murders of those police

         5       officers and those state troopers across this

         6       state will continue unless we give them a

         7       death penalty so that those individuals that

         8       commit those crimes understand that they will

         9       pay for their actions.

        10                  I can only pray that somewhere in

        11       the near future that the State of New York

        12       does recognize the importance of that

        13       legislation and does give the tools and we

        14       don't see a David Brinkerhoff, a Thomas

        15       Lindsey, a Joseph Corr, an Anthony Longobardo,

        16       an Anthony Sperr, a Eugene Marshalik, a

        17       Nicholas Pekearo, a Daniel Enchautegui, and a

        18       Dillon Stewart, all killed in the past two

        19       years.  How many more lives, how many more

        20       mothers, fathers, how many more funerals do we

        21       have to go to?

        22                  I hope that my colleagues in this

        23       conference and in this State Senate will see

        24       the value in voting this bill, and so does the

        25       Assembly and the Governor, signing a piece of


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         1       legislation that gives the tools to the State

         2       of New York to stop this open season on police

         3       officers.  Thirty-nine killed across this

         4       nation so far this year by gunshot.

         5                  Thank you, Mr. President.  I vote

         6       yes.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         8       Golden will be recorded in the affirmative.

         9                  Senator Volker, to explain his

        10       vote.

        11                  SENATOR VOLKER:    Mr. President,

        12       very quickly, I just want to say that what a

        13       tragedy it is that officer Russel Timoshenko

        14       was shot twice in the head.

        15                  Fortunately, Officer Herman Yan

        16       took a bullet in the arm and in the chest with

        17       a vest; otherwise, he would have been the

        18       other one murdered at the same time.

        19                  But I have to make a comment on a

        20       newspaper -- and I would really like Fred

        21       Dicker to have a talk with whoever the

        22       numbnuts are, if you'll excuse me, from the

        23       New York Post.  Their editorial says:  "In

        24       recent years, Albany has rolled back the tough

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         1       them back somewhat.  And then it says, "The

         2       court essentially threw out the death penalty,

         3       which was supposedly restored in the

         4       mid-90s" -- it wasn't supposedly, it was --

         5       "on technical grounds, and the lawmakers have

         6       seen no reason to fix it."

         7                  Well, I have a message for those

         8       people.  Where have they been?  This is the

         9       fourth time this year -- third time

        10       technically, fourth time that we've passed a

        11       bill -- that changes that provision.  It's a

        12       little deadlock provision.  And what

        13       infuriates me is there's little question it

        14       was a way that some Court of Appeals judges

        15       didn't have the guts to stand up and allow the

        16       death penalty to move forward.

        17                  This bill does that.  The Assembly,

        18       I am convinced, will eventually do this bill.

        19       And they should.  All the nonsense aside, all

        20       the stuff about, well, we don't know whether

        21       it deters.  Of course it deters.  It always

        22       has.  The issue is do we have the courage to

        23       stand up and enact it.

        24                  I read some of the stuff that was

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         1       Years ago, by the way, my staff went after

         2       some of the stuff, and we got some really

         3       funny information, that it costs.  That's

         4       nonsense.  Of course it doesn't cost more.  So

         5       much of the nonsense that's on -- the

         6       New Jersey Commission on the Death Penalty,

         7       that's just because New Jersey has gotten

         8       liberal.  The murder rate went down, and they

         9       don't want to do any executions because

        10       they're afraid.  Jeb Bush lost his nerve in

        11       Florida; fine.

        12                  But cops are still getting killed.

        13       They're getting killed in this state and

        14       they're getting killed in some other states.

        15       But right now we are responsible for this

        16       state.  I don't want to see any more police

        17       officers gunned down in these kinds of

        18       situations.  That's why I'm voting aye.

        19                  And I'm hoping that everyone in

        20       this chamber understands that this will become

        21       law before this year is out, because I don't

        22       believe the Assembly is going to allow this

        23       carnage to continue.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        25       Volker will be recorded in the affirmative.


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         1                  Announce the results.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

         3       the negative on Calendar Number 2127 are

         4       Senators Adams, Breslin, Connor, Diaz, Dilan,

         5       Duane, Gonzalez, Hassell-Thompson, Huntley,

         6       L. Krueger, Montgomery, Oppenheimer, Parker,

         7       Perkins, Sabini, Sampson, Savino,

         8       Schneiderman, Serrano, Smith, Stavisky,

         9       Stewart-Cousins, Thompson and Valesky.

        10                  Ayes, 36.  Nays, 24.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        14       2128, by Senator Bruno, Senate Print 6417, an

        15       act to amend the Real Property Tax Law and the

        16       Tax Law.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

        18       the last section.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        22       the roll.

        23                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

        25       the negative on Calendar Number 2128 are


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         1       Senators Adams, Duane, Huntley, L. Krueger,

         2       Parker, Perkins, Sabini and Schneiderman.

         3                  Ayes, 52.  Nays, 8.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         5       bill is passed.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         7       2129, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

         8       Print 6420, an act to authorize the City of

         9       New York.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Read

        11       the last section.

        12                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Lay it aside,

        13       please.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        15       bill is laid aside.

        16                  Senator Skelos, that completes the

        17       reading of the noncontroversial calendar.

        18                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Thank you,

        19       Mr. President.  If we could go to the

        20       controversial reading at this time.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        22       Secretary will read.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        24       2116, substituted earlier today by Member of

        25       the Assembly V. Lopez, Assembly Print Number


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         1       9293, an act to amend the Real Property Tax

         2       Law.

         3                  SENATOR DUANE:    Explanation.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         5       Golden, Senator Duane has requested an

         6       explanation.

         7                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    Thank you,

         8       Mr. President.

         9                  This does some technical

        10       corrections as well as changes some language.

        11       It fixes a wrong reference in the definition

        12       of "affordable units" as well as referring to

        13       how long the units must remain affordable,

        14       moving up from 30 years to 40 years.

        15                  It also creates a new requirement

        16       for units built with substantial government

        17       assistance.  It defines that 20 percent on

        18       initial and subsequent rental be available to

        19       individuals with 80 percent of the median area

        20       income, which is about $56,000 for a family of

        21       four.  And it's 50 percent of the units which

        22       qualify for benefits must be available to

        23       individuals at 60 percent of the area median

        24       income, which is about $42,000 AMI.

        25                  And that the floor area should be


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         1       20 percent of the total area, the dwellings,

         2       so they can't diminish the size of the

         3       affordable units, that the affordable units

         4       have to be at least 20 percent in size.

         5                  It also corrects technical issues

         6       and assures that residents on the community

         7       board have access to the development on

         8       initial occupancy.  It does some corrections

         9       in spelling.

        10                  It deals with the Atlantic Yards in

        11       correcting some 2500 -- spells out 2500.  It

        12       corrects a reference in a paragraph to

        13       paragraph of subdivision and allows for the

        14       averaging of incomes of individuals and

        15       families to occupy their premises at a time of

        16       initial occupancy, at 70 percent from

        17       60 percent of the area median income.  And it

        18       adds a correction for Silvercup, which was a

        19       preexisting deal that was made with the City

        20       of New York.

        21                  It makes the units more flexible

        22       and the Ratner deal more diversified.  It also

        23       underlines the economic conditions of the

        24       project and allows this project to go forward

        25       by averaging those units at 70 percent.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Thank

         2       you, Senator Golden.

         3                  I would remind the members that we

         4       are in the controversial reading of the

         5       calendar and direct that the bells be rung.

         6                  Senator Duane.

         7                  SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you,

         8       Mr. President.  If the sponsor would yield,

         9       please.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        11       Golden, would you yield to a question?

        12                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    I do.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        14       Golden yields.

        15                  Senator Duane.

        16                  SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you,

        17       Mr. President.

        18                  In this amendment, what is the

        19       process by which the exclusionary areas could

        20       be compressed -- you know, retracted, made

        21       less?

        22                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    Mr. President,

        23       there is no discussion in this correction on

        24       exclusionary zones.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator


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         1       Duane.

         2                  SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you.

         3       Through you, Mr. President, if the sponsor

         4       would continue to yield.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         6       Golden, will you continue to yield?

         7                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    I do indeed.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         9       Duane.

        10                  SENATOR DUANE:    Is there even a

        11       process by which the exclusionary zones could

        12       be expanded in this bill?

        13                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    This,

        14       Mr. President, would be up to the City of

        15       New York.

        16                  The only area that I -- the

        17       Silvercup issue was in the exclusionary zone.

        18       It was removed from the exclusionary zone.

        19       That's the only area that I know of where the

        20       exclusionary zone has played a role here in

        21       this legislation.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Thank

        23       you, Senator Golden.

        24                  I would remind the members that we

        25       are in the midst of a debate and ask that the


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         1       conversations be taken outside the chambers.

         2                  Senator Duane.

         3                  SENATOR DUANE:    Through you,

         4       Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue

         5       to yield.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Will

         7       the sponsor continue to yield?

         8                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    I do,

         9       Mr. President.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        11       Golden will.

        12                  Senator Duane.

        13                  SENATOR DUANE:    So there is a

        14       process by which the exclusionary zones could

        15       be expanded but not retracted, shrunk,

        16       diminished?

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        18       Golden.

        19                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    Mr. President,

        20       this is technical corrections.  That is not in

        21       this technical correction.  That is in the

        22       original bill.  I'd rather we discussed what's

        23       in these chapter amendments.  That's already

        24       been discussed, that bill.  It's been passed.

        25       And these are technical corrections and some


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         1       language changes to that bill.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         3       Duane.

         4                  SENATOR DUANE:    Through you,

         5       Mr. President, I just -- I'd like to make

         6       clear that we are on 2116.  Is that correct,

         7       Mr. President?

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    That is

         9       correct.

        10                  SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you,

        11       Mr. President.  And through you, if the

        12       sponsor would continue to yield.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        14       Golden, will you continue to yield?

        15                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    I do indeed,

        16       Mr. President.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        18       Duane.

        19                  SENATOR DUANE:    In the Atlantic

        20       Yards area of this, what is the impact of the

        21       affordable housing, the location and the

        22       actual income requirements for the affordable

        23       housing?

        24                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    It goes to --

        25       the project at the Atlantic Yards, this allows


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         1       for more units to be diversified and more

         2       flexible, for allowing for more affordable

         3       units in the present structure that we have

         4       here in the correction.  There will be the

         5       same number of units -- 20 percent of the

         6       units will be low-income units at that site.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         8       Duane.

         9                  SENATOR DUANE:    Through you,

        10       Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue

        11       to yield.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        13       Golden, will you continue to yield?

        14                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    I do indeed,

        15       Mr. President.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        17       Duane.

        18                  SENATOR DUANE:    Under the bill

        19       that we passed previously, 20 percent of the

        20       units had to be affordable, and in each

        21       building.

        22                  And in this bill, 20 percent of the

        23       units need to be affordable, but they don't

        24       have to be in the buildings -- each building

        25       20 percent affordable, they could be all put


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         1       together in one building just anywhere on the

         2       site.  Is that correct?

         3                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    That is correct,

         4       Mr. President.  This is a process that was

         5       started long before we got involved with the

         6       legislation this past three weeks ago and of

         7       course in this correction here today.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         9       Duane.

        10                  SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you,

        11       Mr. President.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Thank

        13       you, Senator.

        14                  Senator Liz Krueger.

        15                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        16       If the sponsor would please yield.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Does

        18       the sponsor yield?

        19                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    I do indeed,

        20       sir.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        22       sponsor yields.

        23                  Senator Krueger.

        24                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    So in

        25       follow-up to my colleague Senator Duane's


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         1       questions around Section 6, paragraph 13 of

         2       your bill -- and as you stated, it involves

         3       the Atlantic Yards development project and

         4       special rules for that project -- what is the

         5       estimated new cost in lost tax revenue from

         6       paragraph 13 of Section 6 in this bill?

         7                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    Mr. President,

         8       that has not been worked out with the city.  I

         9       have no idea.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        11       Krueger.

        12                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you,

        13       Mr. President.  On the bill.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    On the

        15       bill, Senator Krueger.

        16                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    It's

        17       interesting that it hasn't been worked out by

        18       the city, since the city has been publicly

        19       saying they really don't want this and have

        20       been discussing the desire to have the bill

        21       vetoed.  And the city's own statements are

        22       that this section of this chapter amendment

        23       could cost the city as much as $300 million in

        24       lost tax revenue.

        25                  And this is a special carve-out


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         1       from all the rest of 421-a rules for one

         2       specific housing development in downtown

         3       Brooklyn.  It does allow a different formula

         4       for affordability.  It does allow higher rents

         5       to be charged.  It does allow what calculates

         6       to about 40 percent of income to be charged as

         7       rent in the affordable units, as opposed to a

         8       30 percent of income maximum.

         9                  It does allow the developer to do a

        10       different kind of housing in a different

        11       layout and setup in perhaps only one building

        12       in the entire project instead of 20 percent

        13       on-site in each building, is as required in

        14       the rest of the 421-a bill that the Senator

        15       sponsored and this house passed, with my

        16       objection, several weeks ago.

        17                  This is a bad chapter amendment.

        18       It's not just technical amendments.  It

        19       dramatically changes how 421-a would be

        20       applied in the City of New York.  It would

        21       dramatically increase the costs of the 421-a

        22       program for the people of New York City.

        23       Again, this is New York City taxes that we are

        24       deciding somebody doesn't have to pay.

        25                  I think we have a serious duty to


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         1       make sure that it's the kind of legislation

         2       the people of the City of New York actually

         3       want to have passed.  And if we're going to

         4       give away another $300 million of their tax

         5       dollars, somebody should check with them.

         6                  I object to this as a chapter

         7       amendment, and I'll be voting no and urging my

         8       colleagues to.

         9                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Thank

        11       you, Senator Krueger.

        12                  Senator Schneiderman.

        13                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

        14       Mr. President.  If the sponsor would yield for

        15       a question.

        16                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    Yes,

        17       Mr. President.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        19       sponsor yields.

        20                  Senator Schneiderman.

        21                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    In your

        22       colloquy with Senator Duane you already

        23       clarified the fact that this would allow for a

        24       very large project to have the affordable

        25       units in a separate, isolated building.  Is


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         1       there any requirement in this legislation that

         2       the units that would be designated for

         3       affordable housing be of the same quality of

         4       construction as the rest of the project?

         5                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    Mr. President,

         6       on two issues.  (A) the city is not against

         7       these chapter amendments, number one.  The

         8       bill that the city was opposed to is the

         9       original bill, not opposed to these chapter

        10       amendments.

        11                  It states in the bill that the

        12       floor area of the affordable units must be no

        13       less than 20 percent of the total area of the

        14       dwelling units.

        15                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you.

        16       Through you, Mr. President.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        18       Schneiderman.

        19                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    But my

        20       question is, is there any requirement in this

        21       bill that it be the same quality?  I

        22       understand that it's 20 percent.  But is that

        23       20 percent required to be the same quality as

        24       the rest of the project?

        25                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    I don't believe


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         1       that the developer would do buildings with

         2       lesser quality for one group versus better

         3       quality for another group.  I don't believe

         4       that that is something that would be done by

         5       any developer in the City of New York that is

         6       getting tax credits by the City of New York to

         7       proceed to build affordable units, low-income

         8       units, as well as a project that not only

         9       works the developer but works for the city and

        10       for the community as a whole.

        11                  This is a good project.  It's a

        12       project that works.  It will bring affordable

        13       units, it will bring jobs.  It will be a great

        14       asset not only to the borough of Brooklyn and

        15       to that community but to the city and the

        16       state of New York as well.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        18       Schneiderman.

        19                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Through

        20       you, Mr. President, I appreciate the fact that

        21       you don't believe real estate developers would

        22       build shoddy housing.  Interesting, but I'm

        23       not going to debate that now; the hour is

        24       late.

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         1       there anything in this bill that requires the

         2       affordable housing units be the same quality

         3       of construction in any respect as the luxury

         4       units that would be developed?

         5                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    It will have to

         6       be approved, Mr. President, according to the

         7       city code.  The city will come in and inspect,

         8       and it will have to pass code by the City of

         9       New York.

        10                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank the

        11       sponsor for his answers.

        12                  Mr. President, briefly on the bill.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        14       Schneiderman, on the bill.

        15                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    I did

        16       support the earlier bill because of the

        17       expansion of the exclusionary zones.  I have

        18       to say, though, that this particular

        19       provision, which we do not have to pass in

        20       order for the other provisions that we passed

        21       earlier to become law, raises serious

        22       questions.

        23                  I just think it is very bad public

        24       policy for us to create an affordable housing

        25       program that permits the segregation of the


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         1       affordable housing in such a large development

         2       and has no requirement that housing for poor

         3       people, for working families be of the same

         4       quality.

         5                  I mean, this sets up a situation

         6       that really, you know, I don't know what

         7       developers Senator Golden hangs out with, but

         8       for people whose goal is to maximize their

         9       profits -- fair enough; if I buy stock in a

        10       development company, I want them to maximize

        11       profit.  But this gives them an incentive to

        12       maximize their profits by building the most

        13       minimal facilities that would meet the housing

        14       code and separate them as much as possible

        15       from the luxury housing.

        16                  I think that's bad public policy.

        17       I don't think that's the kind of housing

        18       policy we should be enacting in this house.

        19       I'm going to be voting no.

        20                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        22       Montgomery.

        23                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes,

        24       Mr. President.  I'm also going to be voting no

        25       on this legislation.


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         1                  And I would just remind my

         2       colleagues that this legislation is

         3       specifically to provide some relief, if you

         4       will, to a developer who is developing a

         5       project in my district that represents the

         6       densest possible development in the whole

         7       country, in one small location.

         8                  And this is a development that has

         9       already received hundreds of millions of

        10       dollars in public subsidy.  It was a

        11       development that was billed and that got some

        12       community support based on a promise that they

        13       would provide a percent of the residential

        14       development to people who live actually in the

        15       area that it would be affordable housing.  And

        16       so a lot of the support came because of that.

        17                  Now here we are, in the State

        18       Legislature, passing legislation to give

        19       further assistance.  This is a project that is

        20       going to reap, we just found out fairly

        21       recently, after we FOILed the original plans

        22       for this -- we had to actually go to court to

        23       get the information.  We now know, the Mayor

        24       now knows -- or at least he now admits -- that

        25       this project is going to reap a 50 percent or


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         1       more profit.

         2                  So -- and we are -- we have already

         3       subsidized it, we continue to subsidize it.

         4       The property part of -- the city-owned

         5       property was leased to this project for $1, on

         6       which he intends to build a stadium and an

         7       arena.

         8                  And so here we are now, releasing

         9       this project from one of its basic promises,

        10       and that is that he would provide affordable

        11       housing on-site.  It was not to be off-site,

        12       it was to be within the context of the

        13       residential development.

        14                  This residential development, by

        15       the way, once it's completed, will wipe out my

        16       district and it will wipe out a City Council

        17       district and it will wipe out an Assembly

        18       district as a majority/minority district.

        19       Three districts gone because of this

        20       development.  And here we are today giving one

        21       more benefit to this same developer.

        22                  Now, I ask you, Mr. President, how

        23       far will we go to -- we already have cases

        24       pending still against this development because

        25       of the use of eminent domain, where we're


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         1       taking people's property to give to a

         2       developer who is going to reap a 50 percent

         3       return on his investment, a 50 percent profit.

         4       And that's being supported by us, the state,

         5       in terms of the eminent domain procedures.

         6                  And so now today here we are, once

         7       again, giving him more relief.  How far are we

         8       going to go with this project?  What does this

         9       project mean to so many people that we will

        10       give him every single possible relief,

        11       including letting him out of his promise that

        12       he was going to provide affordable housing?

        13                  So I'm adamantly opposed to this.

        14       This we should not be doing.  And so,

        15       Mr. President, I ask my colleagues to join me

        16       in rejecting this process.  Enough is enough.

        17                  Thank you.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Thank

        19       you, Senator.

        20                  Any other Senator wishing to be

        21       heard?  Debate is closed.

        22                  Senator Perkins.

        23                  SENATOR PERKINS:    Thank you,

        24       Mr. President.

        25                  I just want to say I'm also going


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         1       to have to oppose this.  I think that

         2       segregated housing is not the way for us to

         3       go, particularly when there's been an effort

         4       to create benefits for the developer with the

         5       negotiation with the community that would be

         6       inclusive.

         7                  And what we have here is a

         8       situation in which all the housing is on the

         9       same site, but there are those who are

        10       well-off who will be on one part of the site

        11       and those less well-off, with lower incomes,

        12       on other part of the site.

        13                  And it's counter to one's

        14       intelligence to suggest that they'll be

        15       treated equally.  The history of segregation

        16       and separation of this type assures us that

        17       the lower-income families will be receiving

        18       lower attention and benefits and their housing

        19       conditions will be inferior.  And I think that

        20       this is going to be a bad precedent that if we

        21       allow it to happen here, it will happen time

        22       and time again.

        23                  And I don't think that this city or

        24       this state wants to go back to the days of

        25       that type of segregation.  And not to mention


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         1       the fact that there appears to be a hidden

         2       benefit of $300 million to the developer that

         3       has already caused a hue and cry when it was

         4       first passed by the Assembly before we went

         5       into recess.  And on which I have already

         6       received communications from advocates, even

         7       supporters of the project, who felt that that

         8       unintended benefit was not something that they

         9       would want to support.

        10                  So for those reasons I'm going to

        11       be voting against this bill.  Thank you.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Let's

        13       try again.  Any Senator wishing to be heard?

        14                  Debate is closed.  The Secretary

        15       will ring the bell.

        16                  Read the last section.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 8.  This

        18       act shall take effect on the same date and in

        19       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of

        20       2007.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        22       the roll.

        23                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        25       Golden, to explain his vote.


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         1                  SENATOR GOLDEN:    Thank you,

         2       Mr. President.

         3                  Again, I rise to vote aye on this

         4       bill.  I must point out that on the original

         5       bill, there were only two nay votes and

         6       everybody else voted yes.  And for all of the

         7       bills that they said they wouldn't vote for

         8       this type of housing, each one of my

         9       colleagues voted for, this last year, a very

        10       similar bill.

        11                  This allows for more affordable

        12       units than less.  This is more low-income

        13       housing being built at that site, not less.

        14       And it's being built at the site, not off of

        15       the site.  So this is a good piece of

        16       legislation.

        17                  And that the City of New York is

        18       heavily involved in this property, and the

        19       Building Department and City Planning will be

        20       fully involved in this property.  And they

        21       will make sure that this project is built to

        22       the codes of the City of New York, which will

        23       be good construction, good housing units for

        24       the future, good commercial property as well

        25       that surrounds for jobs and jobs for the


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         1       neighborhood for the future.  So this is an

         2       overall good, comprehensive bill.

         3                  Could we have done better?  Yes.

         4       But right now this is the bill that's before

         5       us.  And these are technical corrections.

         6                  And I thank my colleagues for

         7       voting for this bill.  This will allow again

         8       for more affordable units being built in the

         9       City of New York.  I vote aye.

        10                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        12       Golden will be recorded in the affirmative.

        13                  Announce the results.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

        15       the negative on Calendar Number 2116 are

        16       Senators Adams, Breslin, Connor, Duane,

        17       Hassell-Thompson, Huntley, L. Krueger,

        18       Montgomery, Padavan, Perkins, Schneiderman and

        19       Serrano.

        20                  Ayes, 48.  Nays, 12.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        22       bill is passed.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        24       2124, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 6393,

        25       an act to amend the Public Authorities Law.


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         1                  SENATOR SABINI:    Explanation.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         3       Padavan.

         4                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Thank you,

         5       Mr. President.

         6                  As we all know, several years ago

         7       we adopted a very aggressive capital

         8       construction plan in the City of New York,

         9       $13 billion, a five-year plan, to build more

        10       schools, acquire property to increase the

        11       number of classrooms and related facilities.

        12                  Last year we dealt with our budget

        13       in a very productive way by adding

        14       $700 million over the prior year, a good

        15       portion of which was earmarked for class-size

        16       reduction.

        17                  Now, to achieve those objectives of

        18       dealing with overcrowding and reducing class

        19       sizes, the School Construction Authority of

        20       the Department of Education have been

        21       aggressively building schools, acquiring

        22       property, renovating classrooms to add

        23       classrooms.  That is of course a very positive

        24       thing which I'm sure you would all agree with

        25       and all of you, as I recall, supported.


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         1                  Now, in addition to providing more

         2       classrooms and reducing class size, we have to

         3       make sure -- and the Department of Education

         4       has certainly carried that responsibility --

         5       that these schools are safe environmentally

         6       speaking, that they're not in any way, shape

         7       or form buildings that would have an

         8       environment that would be injurious to the

         9       health and welfare of the children in them.

        10                  Since mayoral control, the School

        11       Construction Authority has implemented a

        12       two-phase environmental study of every

        13       acquired piece of property under a leasing

        14       program.  And as you see in the bill, Phase 1

        15       and Phase 2, if required, deal under national

        16       standards with the issue of environmental

        17       safety in a new-lease building.

        18                  That has worked well.  However,

        19       it's not in law.  And we can't be sure that

        20       future administrations would follow the same

        21       procedure.  So what this bill does, it takes a

        22       current process and puts it in this law.

        23                  Now, in addition to that, we want

        24       to make sure that if there is a problem, a

        25       need for remediation, that there's public


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         1       awareness in the school district of what that

         2       problem might be and what's being done about

         3       it.  And so we have given the responsibility

         4       to the Community Education Councils, which

         5       again, you may recall, we created soon after

         6       having given the mayor control of the

         7       educational system of the City of New York.

         8                  They are part of the system, yet

         9       independent within it.  And under this

        10       legislation, they would have the

        11       responsibility, should remediation be required

        12       at a given site in a leased building, to have

        13       public hearings, to render their analysis, to

        14       advocate.  And I have a great deal of faith in

        15       them, since they are, number one, the parents

        16       of the children in the school district in

        17       question, and certainly their diligence, due

        18       diligence would be above reproach in terms of

        19       motivation.

        20                  So those are the elements in the

        21       bill.  One that statutizes a process that's

        22       working well in terms of dealing with the

        23       environmental issues at lease sites, and the

        24       other expanding what is currently in effect,

        25       allowing Community Education Councils --


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         1       requiring, mandating that they be involved via

         2       public hearings and other means to make sure

         3       whatever the problem might be, whatever the

         4       remediation will be is not only acceptable,

         5       desirable, but effective.

         6                  That is the bill, Mr. President.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         8       Sabini, why do you rise?

         9                  SENATOR SABINI:    Mr. President,

        10       if the sponsor would yield for a question.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        12       Padavan, will you yield for a question?

        13                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes, I will.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        15       Sabini.

        16                  SENATOR SABINI:    Through you,

        17       Mr. President, the sponsor knows that during

        18       my time as chair of the City Council committee

        19       that sited schools, we did a number of

        20       successful projects, including one of the

        21       best, I believe is the Creedmoor campus --

        22                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    I'm sorry, I

        23       didn't understand what you just said.  Would

        24       you repeat that?

        25                  SENATOR SABINI:    I said during my


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         1       time as chair of the City Council committee

         2       that sited schools, we had a number of success

         3       stories, including the Creedmoor campus in

         4       your district, which I think is a model

         5       nationwide --

         6                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Thank you very

         7       much.

         8                  SENATOR SABINI:    -- for what a

         9       siting should be.

        10                  But I'm concerned, why is your bill

        11       not including the protections offered in the

        12       Assembly bill, which would require a SEQRA

        13       review, environmental review, and put the

        14       leasing in part of the ULURP process that

        15       other city projects are required to go, even

        16       leased city projects?

        17                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Well, first,

        18       there is a major difference between property

        19       the city acquires -- and you gave an example

        20       the land on the grounds of Creedmoor, we were

        21       able to, with legislation, transfer it to the

        22       City of New York.  They owned it.  They're

        23       stuck with it.  They must do whatever is

        24       required to make it safe, environmentally and

        25       otherwise.


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         1                  Now, when you're leasing buildings,

         2       keep in mind most of them were former

         3       commercial buildings.  People worked in them,

         4       things went on in those buildings.  And

         5       someone is sitting there with a lease in the

         6       City of New York where property today, as you

         7       know, particularly commercial property, is up

         8       through the ceiling.  They're not going to sit

         9       there indefinitely holding onto that property

        10       for a process that's taking longer than it

        11       should.

        12                  Now, this does provide for a

        13       two-step environmental process, one that is

        14       nationally recognized and has been in effect

        15       for leasing property in the City of New York

        16       for a number of years.  It just didn't happen

        17       this year or last year, but it's gone on for a

        18       number of years, and it's working well.

        19                  Now, we do feel, however, that

        20       there should be public awareness of what's

        21       going on.  And from my point of view, the

        22       people the closest to the education of our

        23       children, with the most at stake and with the

        24       greatest sense of responsibility, are the

        25       parents who are members of the Community


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         1       Education Council.

         2                  And that's why we added this part

         3       of this, that element to this legislation,

         4       ensuring the fact that whatever happens,

         5       whatever is found, whatever is determined to

         6       be necessary would be publicly -- would be

         7       made a public process where everyone could get

         8       involved.  Including local city councilmen, if

         9       they chose to.

        10                  And as you know, Senator, the State

        11       Department of Environmental Conservation has

        12       an overriding responsibility which exists

        13       today to ensure that whatever this process is,

        14       and it's working well, continues to work well.

        15       So that's another level on top of what the

        16       law -- this bill would provide in law and what

        17       is currently going on in fact.

        18                  And I might add, in addition,

        19       obviously the City Council, which allocates

        20       the individual appropriations within their

        21       budget for school buildings, would have

        22       whatever prerogatives that particular

        23       budgetary process provides.

        24                  So I think, all in all, we have a

        25       good system that would work, can continue to


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         1       work, public awareness that's there.  And

         2       while I have no problem with the City Council,

         3       I do believe that there have been occasions

         4       where the siting of school buildings and the

         5       acquiring of sites have been somewhat

         6       politicized.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         8       Sabini.

         9                  SENATOR SABINI:    Mr. President,

        10       if the sponsor would continue to yield.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        12       Padavan, will you continue to yield?

        13                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Yes, he

        15       will.  Proceed.

        16                  SENATOR SABINI:    Can you tell us

        17       how many of those times that has happened?

        18       Because during the time I was chair and the

        19       Senator Perkins was on the committee, Senator

        20       Duane was on the committee, I can't recall

        21       one.

        22                  Now, I do know there was a site in

        23       the Bronx that's been controversial.  But can

        24       you tell me how many have been politicized, in

        25       your opinion?


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         1                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Well, Senator,

         2       I really can't give you a number.  But

         3       whatever the number may be, it's one too many.

         4                  But again, I get back to the basic

         5       thrust of this bill.  I don't know if you were

         6       here when we created the Community Education

         7       Councils; I don't recall your tenure.  But we

         8       felt then, and we feel now, they are the ones

         9       who we count on to make sure that in every

        10       school district that our children are getting

        11       the best education that we could possibly

        12       provide, and that anything that goes on in

        13       that district is done properly.

        14                  They are, for the first time, by

        15       virtue of this bill, in the process.  Now, if

        16       you have a problem with that, I don't quite

        17       follow it.  But to me, I believe parents whose

        18       children would be directly affected have the

        19       most at stake and therefore have the greatest

        20       responsibility in this matter.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        22       Sabini.

        23                  SENATOR SABINI:    Mr. President,

        24       through you, if the sponsor would continue to

        25       yield.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         2       Padavan, will you continue to yield?

         3                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Yes.  Yes, I

         4       will.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    He

         6       will.

         7                  SENATOR SABINI:    Under your bill,

         8       if it were to become law -- and I don't know

         9       that there's an Assembly sponsor.  But if it

        10       were to become law, what would be the

        11       difference in time that this review would take

        12       as opposed to a ULURP process in the City of

        13       New York?

        14                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Well, as you

        15       know, there is no particular time frame in the

        16       ULURP process that is in statute that I'm

        17       familiar with.  That could go on in a variety

        18       of ways.  Well, you know, Senator, I've seen

        19       ULURP processes go on and on and on and on for

        20       one reason or the other.

        21                  But there are time limits in this

        22       bill in terms of when notice is given, how

        23       long a period of time when hearings would be

        24       provided for, and so on and so on.

        25                  We have a difference of opinion,


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         1       obviously.  I think this is a good way to go.

         2       I respect your opinion.  I respect the opinion

         3       of the Assembly, Assemblywoman Nolan.

         4                  However, I would like to point out

         5       one final thing.  This bill is supported by

         6       the Department of Education.  I have their

         7       memo in front of me.  It says:  "The New York

         8       City Department of Education strongly supports

         9       S6393, which would amend the Public

        10       Authorities Law to require the New York City

        11       School Construction Authority to conduct

        12       environmental reviews of any proposed facility

        13       that is to be leased for educational purposes.

        14                  "The School Construction Authority,

        15       which now reports directly to the New York

        16       City Department of Education, is charged with

        17       siting and building schools to meet the

        18       demands of New York City's school population.

        19       Leasing is an important component of the

        20       ongoing effort to provide desperately needed

        21       seats on an expedited basis when sites for

        22       school construction cannot be found in the

        23       more densely populated areas of the city.

        24                  "The department works closely with

        25       the SCA to ensure new and leased facilities


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         1       are environmentally safe for our children and

         2       staff and supports adding the reviews required

         3       under this legislation.  The SCA already

         4       conducts environmental due diligence, Phase 1

         5       and 2 for leased projects, and supports the

         6       reasonable process for site reviews, a public

         7       comment period and hearing that would be

         8       established under this legislation.

         9                  "These provisions would provide an

        10       opportunity for the public to react to

        11       potential school sites without imposing a

        12       process that would create delays that could

        13       easily derail the leasing process.

        14                  "In addition, this proposal

        15       recognizes the practical distinction between

        16       the use of leasing and new construction to

        17       establish new schools.  As lease sites do not

        18       become the property of the department, the SCA

        19       does not perceive that leases or reviews

        20       reveal that a site has high levels of

        21       contamination necessitating costly

        22       remediation."

        23                  So there is a distinction,

        24       obviously -- and they're pointing it out --

        25       between leasing and acquiring property, as I


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         1       mentioned earlier.

         2                  SENATOR SABINI:    Thank you,

         3       Mr. President.  On the bill.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         5       Sabini, on the bill.

         6                  SENATOR SABINI:    The sponsor says

         7       we don't disagree.  Actually, I think we

         8       probably do fundamentally disagree on one

         9       item, which is that I believe that this bill

        10       would probably take just as long as the ULURP

        11       process.

        12                  It is a factual item that once SCA

        13       and City Planning calendarizes something under

        14       the city's Uniform Land Use Review Process,

        15       there's a clock.  And the clock moves and if

        16       the council doesn't come to an agreement after

        17       I believe it's three weeks or 20 days, then

        18       the site is deemed approved.  And I've got to

        19       tell you, as someone who has followed that

        20       committee after I chaired it, there is rarely

        21       a time when a site isn't approved.

        22                  So I think the fundamental

        23       disagreement is that the Department of Ed and

        24       the commissioner, Chancellor Klein, would like

        25       as few people to review these sites as


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         1       possible.

         2                  Now, I think that making sure that

         3       we follow due diligence on leased property

         4       when schoolchildren and personnel's health is

         5       at stake is not a bad policy.  So I would like

         6       to see us instead take up Assemblywoman

         7       Nolan's bill, which puts this under the same

         8       rules that other city leased property -- see,

         9       the difference here is the SCA is a

        10       state-constructed agency, so we can change the

        11       rules under which they review leased property.

        12       And this is what this does.

        13                  But if the New York City Fire

        14       Department were to lease a building, they

        15       would have to go under ULURP.  If the New York

        16       City Police Department were to lease a

        17       building, they would have to go under ULURP.

        18       And I think the men and women who work in

        19       those facilities are no less important than

        20       children who attend schools.

        21                  But the bottom line is, there's not

        22       a problem here.  The council has not

        23       repeatedly rejected sites.  This is out of a

        24       fit of pique over one site that was rejected

        25       over some concerns about health.  And you know


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         1       what?  If they erred on the side of caution,

         2       that's not bad thing.

         3                  In 1989 when the Board of Estimate

         4       was dissolved by a federal court order and the

         5       New York City Council were given land-use

         6       prerogatives, people said:  They'll never

         7       build anything, they'll never want to build

         8       something next to people.  They'll never want

         9       to build big projects.  And you know what?

        10       That hasn't turned out to be the case.

        11                  As a matter of fact, I had, in my

        12       own district, lots of schools constructed.

        13       And let me tell you, when you put a school in

        14       a neighborhood, not everyone is for it, even

        15       though there may be a need, because the people

        16       that live next to the school may not be the

        17       same people sending their kids to the school.

        18       And yet we did move forward, because it was

        19       the right thing to do.  And I can honestly say

        20       that my colleagues all did the same thing.

        21                  So there's not a problem here.  And

        22       I don't believe that taking layers out of the

        23       decision-making process when it comes to the

        24       environmental health of our children who are

        25       going to be spending, in some cases, eight


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         1       years in a school -- in my district we have a

         2       school where kids spend 13 consecutive years,

         3       it's K through 12.  That if we're going to

         4       send children to those schools, we want to

         5       have some surety that their health is going to

         6       be preserved.

         7                  I think that the sponsor has good

         8       intentions, but I think that this bill doesn't

         9       give us the assurances we need, and I'm going

        10       to be voting no.

        11                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        13       Schneiderman, why do you rise?

        14                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

        15       Mr. President.  On the bill.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        17       Schneiderman, on the bill.

        18                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    I also

        19       will be voting against this bill.  I think

        20       it's unfortunate that the Senate appears to be

        21       moving towards passing something that provides

        22       less protection for our children from

        23       environmental dangers, from toxic substances,

        24       than we could.  As the sponsor just said --

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator


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         1       Padavan, why do you rise?

         2                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Will Senator

         3       Schneiderman yield to a question.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         5       Schneiderman, will you yield?

         6                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    I will be

         7       glad to in just a moment, if I just can finish

         8       this paragraph.

         9                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    By all means.

        10                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    The

        11       Assembly's bill seems to me to be completely

        12       reasonable and preferable in every way.  It

        13       does require notice to the community.  It

        14       requires the submission of all leased school

        15       site applications to the City Council, which,

        16       as Senator Sabini said, has a 20-day window in

        17       which to approve.  It's not a long time.  And

        18       it requires that all leased school site

        19       applications are subject to a SEQRA review.

        20       That's not unreasonable.  That's what we do

        21       with everything else.

        22                  This is, strangely enough,

        23       legislation that would say that everything

        24       else the city leases gets a SEQRA review, gets

        25       approved by the City Council, but the sites


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         1       that should be the most pristine, where our

         2       children are, doesn't.  That, to me, is

         3       incomprehensible public policy.

         4                  And I also would suggest to the

         5       sponsor that the provision having the

         6       Community Education Councils, the Community

         7       Education Councils conduct a hearing on

         8       environmental quality, is really ludicrous.

         9                  The Community Education Councils

        10       are groups of parents.  Where do they get --

        11       is there extra funding in here?  Are they

        12       given some people to advise them on this?  No.

        13       There's nothing in this legislation to enable

        14       them to undertake this.

        15                  That's not what they're set up for.

        16       That's not what they should be doing.  They

        17       are the least capable group of conducting such

        18       a hearing.

        19                  And I think there's a fundamental

        20       legal defect in it as well.  If I seek to

        21       challenge, in litigation, a decision to locate

        22       a school in a toxic waste site or something

        23       like that, or to lease it in a site that would

        24       be unacceptable for environmental reasons, I

        25       would be in the position of having to sue the


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         1       CEC for its conduct of the hearing.

         2                  And that's not really who should be

         3       properly framed as the decision-maker.  I

         4       think this could create a legal impediment to

         5       litigation against the SCA, which is the real

         6       decision-maker here, and that additionally I

         7       think is a defect here.

         8                  So with that said, I will be glad

         9       to yield for a question.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        11       Schneiderman will yield.

        12                  Senator Padavan.

        13                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Senator, what

        14       has been the historically, in whatever number

        15       of years you choose, a process that's been in

        16       effect for leased property for schools

        17       vis-a-vis environmental review?  What has been

        18       the process in effect?

        19                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    I don't

        20       understand the question.

        21                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    In other words,

        22       prior -- well, right now, as a matter of fact,

        23       what is the process that is today in effect

        24       relevant to leased property for the use as

        25       classrooms?


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         1                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    The

         2       process is similar to what this -- similar if

         3       not identical to what this legislation

         4       proposes.

         5                  However, there is a significant

         6       increase in the use of leased property for

         7       city schools.  We're obviously in a situation

         8       now where we have a crisis in our city schools

         9       to authorize capital --

        10                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Will the

        11       Senator yield.  I don't think he answered the

        12       question.

        13                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    I'm sorry,

        14       I would like to be allowed to finish my

        15       response to the question.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Excuse

        17       me, Senator Padavan.  Senator Schneiderman has

        18       the floor.

        19                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thirty-one

        20       percent of all new capacity seats in the

        21       Department of Education's five-year capital

        22       plan is going to be leased.  There's a

        23       significant increase in the use of leased

        24       property.  And as we all know, it's hard to

        25       find property in many areas.


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         1                  It is understandable that people

         2       who are desperate to find property, whose jobs

         3       are on the line if they don't lease space for

         4       schools, might want to reduce the level of

         5       review.  But it's not the job of this Senate,

         6       of this Legislature, to allow them to

         7       circumvent basic environmental requirements.

         8       And they are not able to do that in any other

         9       building leased by the city, and the Assembly

        10       bill would prevent them from doing that.

        11                  So I don't see any reason for us to

        12       propose something different than the Assembly

        13       bill.  I think Senator Sabini has explained

        14       very well why that would work.  And I find it

        15       absolutely incomprehensive that we're imposing

        16       on the poor beleaguered parents of our CECs

        17       the obligation to hold public hearings on

        18       environmental issues.

        19                  So those are my concerns, Senator.

        20       And I realize that this is similar to the

        21       process that's in effect now.  But I do think

        22       we have an opportunity here to significantly

        23       improve on that process and to protect our

        24       children, to provide more protections for our

        25       children from toxic wastes and other


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         1       environmental hazards.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         3       Padavan.

         4                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Will the

         5       Senator yield.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         7       Schneiderman, will you yield?

         8                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    I'm happy

         9       to yield.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        11       Senator yields.

        12                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Senator, maybe

        13       I didn't make myself clear.  What is currently

        14       in law today relevant to the acquisition of

        15       sites to be leased for schools?  What is

        16       currently in law?

        17                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Well,

        18       there are a series of provisions that the

        19       schools -- that define the School Construction

        20       Authority and define its -- I mean, there are

        21       a whole variety of laws about leases for

        22       schools.  If you're referring to this

        23       specifically, I don't think there is a

        24       provision like this in law.

        25                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    There is


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         1       nothing in law.

         2                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    On this

         3       specific issue that's addressed in this bill.

         4                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Thank you.

         5       Thank you very much.  That's the question I

         6       was asking.  So now if you would continue to

         7       yield.

         8                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Be happy

         9       to yield.

        10                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    We have two

        11       proposals, one in the Assembly and one before

        12       us here, that have a different way of going at

        13       it.  Here we do require environmental Phase 1

        14       and 2 nationally accepted standards, with DEC

        15       oversight, which has always been there.  And

        16       we involve the Community Education Councils

        17       when public awareness is necessary.

        18                  Now, you seem to think that the

        19       CECs are ill-equipped or ill-motivated or not

        20       whatever and don't have the resources.  Well,

        21       I don't know about the CECs you've been

        22       exposed to, but the ones I have get into

        23       everything -- and thank heaven they do --

        24       including new construction.

        25                  Are you aware of the fact that when


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         1       a new building goes up in a school district,

         2       CECs get involved intimately in evaluating the

         3       school and everything about it?  They do that

         4       today.  They've done it in my district, not

         5       only in those three schools you mentioned but

         6       in others.  So where --

         7                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Could I

         8       get a question, Mr. President?

         9                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    My question,

        10       Senator, is where do you come up with the

        11       judgment that they're ill-equipped to not only

        12       inquire, investigate, but to probe into the

        13       safety of the schools that are either being

        14       built or renovated, leased or acquired in

        15       their school districts?  Where do you come up

        16       with that judgment?

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        18       Schneiderman.

        19                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Based on

        20       my own experience in CECs, the difficulty

        21       we've had in finding parents to participate in

        22       CECs, the lack of staff, the lack of

        23       budgeting.  Perhaps you fund your CECs with

        24       member items.  Perhaps in a few years we'll be

        25       able to fund our CECs with member items.  But


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         1       that's not the right way to do public policy.

         2                  My suggestion, Senator, is we on

         3       this side of the aisle do not have the

         4       opportunity to participate in the debate over

         5       the drafting of this legislation.  Our

         6       opportunity to have input is now.

         7                  And I am suggesting that the input

         8       I would like to have is that the Assembly bill

         9       is far superior and that it is disgraceful for

        10       this house to take the position that our

        11       children in leased facilities should not have

        12       the same basic environmental review and

        13       protection from toxic waste that goes to every

        14       other leased facility in the City of New York

        15       and that go to new school facilities.  That's

        16       it.  Simple.  Why should we do less for our

        17       children?

        18                  That's my objection.  I stand by

        19       it.  And I suggest that everyone vote no.

        20                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        22       Hassell-Thompson, why do you rise?

        23                  SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:    On the

        24       bill, Mr. President.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    On the


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         1       bill.

         2                  SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:    Just

         3       two quick statements that I'd like to make on

         4       the bill.

         5                  One is that I've listened to the

         6       discussion by Senator Padavan defending the

         7       ability of parent groups.  And I would like to

         8       suggest to him and to any others that while

         9       that may exist in a district or in your

        10       district, it is not uniform.

        11                  There is not the same authority,

        12       there is not the same resource ability across

        13       the board to do this.  Were that not true, one

        14       of the schools that you were discussing that

        15       was held up, presumably thought to be for

        16       political reasons, was predominantly because

        17       the City Council and the community groups were

        18       not satisfied that the cleanup in the leased

        19       school was sufficient on behalf of the

        20       children of that district.

        21                  And, Senator, to you and to anybody

        22       else who believes that we don't have a right

        23       to ask for and require of our City Council

        24       members to be a part of that process because

        25       they're on the ground -- that's part of their


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         1       job, that's what we hold them accountable to

         2       do.  And as the on-the-ground people, I trust

         3       their resources and their ability to opt on

         4       behalf of our children.

         5                  And therefore I will be voting no

         6       and I certainly will be encouraging all of my

         7       colleagues that this is not the best interests

         8       particularly of children in black and Latino

         9       districts.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        11       Perkins.

        12                  SENATOR PERKINS:    Thank you,

        13       Mr. President.

        14                  I just want to echo the concerns of

        15       my colleagues Senators Schneiderman and

        16       Hassell-Thompson and others with respect to

        17       this legislation, particularly in terms of the

        18       role of the parent boards.  Which, with all

        19       due respect, are very, very enthusiastic,

        20       very, very committed, very, very involved, and

        21       in many respects very, very talented -- but

        22       powerless.  They have absolutely no power.

        23                  They were designed to be powerless.

        24       They were not designed to be able to stop

        25       anything, as might be the City Council through


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         1       the so-called ULURP process.

         2                  So if in fact we want them to play

         3       that role, then we should have empowered them

         4       in such a way that they could play this role.

         5       But they really can't.  And in fact, they

         6       express very often to me their frustration

         7       about the fact that they are powerless with

         8       regard to these matters.

         9                  Now, if we want a sort of

        10       superficial opportunity or effort to give the

        11       blemish that there's some parental involvement

        12       or some parental support, then we can go

        13       forward with that.  But that won't be honest.

        14       This is in a sense a secondary or a

        15       second-class approach to really looking at the

        16       safety of these particular facilities.

        17                  We need leasing, and leasing has a

        18       value.  But it loses that value when, through

        19       that, that we expedite it without providing

        20       the necessary protections for the health and

        21       well-being of the children.

        22                  And the council has an awesome

        23       amount of resources to have full-blown

        24       hearings, to bring in experts, to really do

        25       the scientific research that's necessary so


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         1       that at the end of the process one can feel

         2       some great deal of confidence that this was

         3       done in the proper way.

         4                  So I think that this particular

         5       piece of legislation, while it takes us places

         6       where we haven't been before, does not take us

         7       places we want to go.  Which is to guarantee

         8       that this leasing is done in such a way that

         9       it's safe, that it's expeditious, but not so

        10       expeditious that it doesn't have the highest

        11       standards as it relates to the safety of the

        12       children.

        13                  And the best way to do that is

        14       through this ULURP process through the City

        15       Council that has the resources, that has the

        16       obligation, the accountability and actually

        17       represents the area as do the parents.

        18                  So I'm going to have to vote no on

        19       this as well.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Is

        21       there any other Senator wishing to be heard?

        22                  Debate is closed.  The Secretary

        23       will ring the bell.

        24                  Read the last section.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This


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         1       act shall take effect on the 90th day.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

         3       the roll.

         4                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         6       Sabini, to explain his vote.

         7                  SENATOR SABINI:    Thank you,

         8       Mr. President.  I just want to note for my

         9       colleagues the strange irony in this action.

        10                  The Mayor -- and I supported it --

        11       wanted control over the Department of

        12       Education, so he got rid of the Board of Ed

        13       and created a city agency.  But what this bill

        14       does is exploit the fact that the School

        15       Construction Authority is not a city agency,

        16       it's a state-created authority.  And by

        17       passing this, it averts city control.  That's

        18       the strange irony here.

        19                  If the Department of Education had

        20       gotten the responsibility to build city

        21       schools -- I don't know that they should have

        22       it.  But if we had given full mayoral control,

        23       they would be the subject to ULURP like any

        24       other city agency.

        25                  So there's a strange irony in this


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         1       that the Department of Ed is asking to support

         2       an SCA effort that they have to support, that

         3       they have to come in compliance with

         4       themselves if, say, the Department of

         5       Education were to lease an office building for

         6       their own personnel.

         7                  I vote no.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         9       Sabini will be recorded in the negative.

        10                  Senator Stavisky, to explain her

        11       vote.

        12                  SENATOR STAVISKY:    Yeah, very

        13       briefly.

        14                  In many parts of the city it's been

        15       increasingly difficult to find sites for

        16       schools.  As a result, the city has had to

        17       lease the space.

        18                  Secondly, it's been very difficult

        19       to find people to serve on these committees,

        20       on the CECs.  And it's been almost void of any

        21       support services.  As a result, they feel

        22       without power.

        23                  On the other hand, we do have

        24       certain bodies that do have accountability,

        25       that do have the support services.  For one


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         1       thing, we have the local community boards.

         2       And under this legislation, I believe they are

         3       not -- they do not receive notification of the

         4       siting of a leased school facility.

         5                  Secondly, we have the council

         6       members.  And certainly nobody's ever accused

         7       the New York City Council people of being shy

         8       and reticent and unwilling to hold hearings.

         9                  And at the same time, there is the

        10       question of accountability.  So the local

        11       community boards, the City Council, these are

        12       bodies which have the facilities, they can be

        13       held accountable, far more so than simply the

        14       CECs.

        15                  And as a result, Mr. President, I

        16       vote no.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        18       Stavisky will be recorded in the negative.

        19                  Announce the results.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

        21       the negative on Calendar Number 2124 are

        22       Senators Adams, Breslin, Connor, Diaz, Dilan,

        23       Duane, Gonzalez, Hassell-Thompson, Huntley,

        24       C. Johnson, Klein, L. Krueger, Montgomery,

        25       Onorato, Oppenheimer, Parker, Perkins, Sabini,


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         1       Sampson, Savino, Schneiderman, Serrano, Smith,

         2       Stachowski, Stavisky, Stewart-Cousins,

         3       Thompson and Valesky.

         4                  Ayes, 32.  Nays, 28.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         6       bill is passed.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         8       2126, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 6406, an

         9       act to amend the Executive Law.

        10                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:

        11       Explanation.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        13       Skelos.

        14                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Thank you,

        15       Mr. President.

        16                  If I could, prior to the

        17       termination of regular session, the Senate

        18       passed Governor Spitzer's program bill

        19       concerning the expansion of the DNA database.

        20       Unfortunately, as he traveled the state, he

        21       forget to mention that as he was commenting on

        22       unfinished business.

        23                  But what we've really tried to do

        24       with this legislation is strike a compromise,

        25       taking into account the work that was really


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         1       done at the joint conference committee.  And I

         2       know Senator Schneiderman made some

         3       recommendations.

         4                  So really what we do here -- and I

         5       think this is a fair compromise -- Senate

         6       priorities were to include all fingerprintable

         7       offenses, youthful offenders and persons

         8       subject to registration as a sex offender.

         9       These would include failure to register as a

        10       sex offender and failure to verify addresses,

        11       DWIs and DWAIs.  Which would not be included

        12       if it was just misdemeanors, as is proposed by

        13       the Assembly.

        14                  It specifies the public officer's

        15       responsibility for collecting DNA samples from

        16       defendants and requires that a defendant under

        17       probation or parole supervision provide a DNA

        18       sample to ensure that every person convicted

        19       of a crime has their DNA collected and added

        20       to the data bank.  These were the priorities

        21       of the Senate Majority.

        22                  Now, some of the Assembly

        23       priorities, and I believe with the Senate

        24       Minority, were to -- it strikes from the

        25       legislation the Senate plan to extend the


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         1       statute of limitations in all cases where DNA

         2       is available and also does nothing in terms of

         3       the John Doe indictment process.

         4                  This creates a wrongful conviction

         5       commission but limits the scope to that

         6       proposed by the Governor, but it is outside of

         7       the Division of Criminal Justice Services.

         8                  It expands defendants' ability to

         9       apply for DNA testing before trial and also in

        10       cases where they have previously pled guilty,

        11       and expands the scope of defendant's

        12       application to include a comparison between

        13       crime scene evidence and DNA data banks.

        14       Basically we do not want anybody to be in jail

        15       that should not be in jail.

        16                  It overrules existing case law,

        17       limiting ability of wrongful convicted persons

        18       to recover against the state, and strikes the

        19       440 motion reform proposed by the Governor.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        21       Schneiderman.

        22                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank the

        23       sponsor for his explanation.

        24                  Mr. President, I believe there is

        25       an amendment at the desk.  I ask that the


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         1       reading of the amendment be waived and would

         2       like to be heard on the amendment.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    There

         4       is.  The reading is waived, and you may be

         5       heard on the amendment.

         6                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

         7       Mr. President.

         8                  I agree with Senator Skelos that

         9       this bill represents significant progress over

        10       the bill that was passed in the Senate earlier

        11       this year.  And I very much appreciate him

        12       saying that our goal is to see that no one is

        13       in prison who doesn't belong there, that

        14       innocent people are exonerated and that guilty

        15       people are convicted.

        16                  My amendment is to make this a

        17       better bill and to enable it to do just that.

        18       Some of the defects in this bill -- and again,

        19       it is a step forward, but I believe it doesn't

        20       go nearly far enough -- include the following.

        21       This bill does not eliminate rogue DNA

        22       databases.  They're DNA databases that have to

        23       be eliminated or brought into compliance with

        24       some strict set of standards to protect all of

        25       us, frankly.


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         1                  This bill also does not provide

         2       mandatory guidelines for collection,

         3       preservation and indexing of evidence.  It has

         4       voluntary guidelines that a commission may

         5       make mandatory.

         6                  The reason that these are so

         7       important is that currently, if there's a

         8       murder in my building and all the people in

         9       the building give their DNA to be tested so it

        10       can be excluded, that may sit in a rogue

        11       database and may be run for a test over and

        12       over again.  We don't know.  There are

        13       different local governments and jurisdictions

        14       that have these rogue databases.  We've got to

        15       get rid of them.

        16                  We've got to have one standard for

        17       mandatory guidelines for all DNA and indexing

        18       for all DNA to prevent the travesties of

        19       justice we've heard so much about, the case of

        20       Alan Newton being one of the primary ones

        21       that's come before us -- and he came up to

        22       Albany to lobby on this issue -- where the

        23       crime scene DNA was lost for 16 years and they

        24       couldn't find it because there was no proper

        25       indexing.


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         1                  This bill does allow, and this is a

         2       good thing, the court to order, on a request

         3       from a defendant, that a defendant's DNA be

         4       compared to the crime scene's DNA.  Most

         5       people don't understand that this is not the

         6       case.  It is incredible to me that a defendant

         7       cannot request that their DNA be run against a

         8       crime scene DNA.

         9                  This bill would allow that to be

        10       done under a court order.  However, it doesn't

        11       allow the court to order a comparison of the

        12       defendant's fingerprints to the fingerprints

        13       at the crime scene.  Let's -- again, on the

        14       principle that we want to make sure all

        15       innocent people get out of jail, let's make

        16       that change as well.

        17                  The commission for exoneration

        18       review that is created in this bill I believe

        19       is unduly restricted, its mandate is unduly

        20       restrictive, and the composition of the

        21       commission is flawed.  My amendment seeks to

        22       correct these things.

        23                  And finally, my amendment would add

        24       to this bill two provisions that the Assembly

        25       has added that I think are absolutely


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         1       essential to protect the innocent from

         2       wrongful conviction.  Those are modifications

         3       of our state procedures for eyewitness

         4       identification and the requirement for

         5       videotaping in custodial interrogations.

         6                  Coincidentally, yesterday in the

         7       New York Times there were stories of two

         8       wrongful convictions.  One was a gentleman

         9       named Richard Lapointe, who is mentally

        10       impaired and was convicted based on signed

        11       confessions.  He was questioned for nine

        12       hours, until 1:30 in the morning, and he

        13       signed three inconsistent confessions.  We

        14       have to deal with this issue.  We have to move

        15       beyond the people who are easier to exonerate

        16       to situations where custodial interrogations

        17       produce false confessions.

        18                  The second story, Troy Davis.  This

        19       is a man -- there was little physical

        20       evidence.  Prosecutors relied on testimony of

        21       nine eyewitnesses.  Again, we're dealing with

        22       a situation where these are white eyewitnesses

        23       against a black defendant.  Nine eyewitnesses

        24       took the stand against Mr. Davis.  Since his

        25       trial, seven of the nine have recanted or


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         1       changed their testimony, saying they were

         2       harassed and pressed by investigators to lie

         3       under oath.  Other witnesses have come forward

         4       identifying a different man as the shooter.

         5                  So I appreciate the fact that

         6       Senator Skelos is moving this forward.  The

         7       changes in the bill do give me confidence we

         8       will actually get something done before end of

         9       the year.

        10                  But I would urge everyone, let's

        11       adopt the additional provisions in this

        12       amendment.  Let's make this bill a better

        13       bill.  Let us ensure that no innocent person

        14       in New York State is ever convicted of a crime

        15       they didn't commit or ever incarcerated for a

        16       crime they did not commit.  I urge everyone to

        17       vote for this amendment.

        18                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Thank

        20       you, Senator Schneiderman.

        21                  On the amendment, those Senators in

        22       agreement please signify by raising your

        23       hands.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

        25       agreement are Senators Adams, Breslin, Connor,


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         1       Dilan, Duane, Gonzalez, Hassell-Thompson,

         2       Huntley, Montgomery, Onorato, Oppenheimer,

         3       Parker, Perkins, Sabini, Sampson, Savino,

         4       Schneiderman, Serrano, Smith, Stavisky,

         5       Stewart-Cousins, and Thompson.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         7       amendment is not agreed to.

         8                  On the bill, any Senator wishing to

         9       be heard?

        10                  Debate is closed.  The Secretary

        11       will ring the bell.

        12                  Read the last section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 13.  This

        14       act shall take effect November 1, 2007.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        16       DeFrancisco, to explain his vote.

        17                  SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    Yes, I vote

        18       aye.  And I think at this juncture of this

        19       session --

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Excuse

        21       me, Senator.

        22                  Will the Senate please come to

        23       order.  Senator DeFrancisco is explaining his

        24       vote.

        25                  Thank you.


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         1                  SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    I think at

         2       this juncture in the State Senate's

         3       proceedings for this year we now have passed

         4       three different DNA database bills, bills that

         5       everyone seems to believe make sense insofar

         6       as it not only provides more evidence,

         7       potentially, to help convict the guilty but

         8       also to exonerate the innocent.

         9                  And I know it's a Governor's

        10       priority bill, although he didn't come to my

        11       area to explain he was sad that the Assembly

        12       didn't pass the bill.  It seems to me that

        13       with three different options, the Assembly

        14       should come back at some point this session

        15       and deal with this issue, because it is so

        16       important not only for law enforcement in this

        17       state but also to exonerate the innocent.

        18                  We've got like a Chinese menu at

        19       this point.  Hopefully we don't have to go

        20       through more choices without the Assembly

        21       coming on board and getting this done.  I vote

        22       aye.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        24       DeFrancisco is recorded in the affirmative.

        25                  Call the roll.


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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

         3       the negative on Calendar Number 2126 are

         4       Senators Adams, Diaz, Duane, Gonzalez,

         5       Hassell-Thompson, Huntley, L. Krueger,

         6       Montgomery, Parker, Perkins, Schneiderman and

         7       Serrano.

         8                  Ayes, 48.  Nays, 12.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        10       bill is passed.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        12       2129, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

        13       Print 6420, an act to authorize --

        14                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Lay it aside.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Lay it

        16       aside.

        17                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

        18       could we return to Calendar Number 2130,

        19       noncontroversial.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    We will

        21       return to Calendar Number 2130 on the

        22       noncontroversial calendar.

        23                  SENATOR DIAZ:    Mr. President.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Excuse

        25       me, Senator Diaz, why do you rise?


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         1                  SENATOR DIAZ:    I was called back

         2       to Albany, and I came to deal with this

         3       business.  They keep calling lay it aside.  Do

         4       they have the votes or no?  I was called to

         5       vote on this.  So let's do it.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         7       Diaz, the bill has been laid aside.  We are on

         8       Calendar Number 2130.  We have a message of

         9       necessity --

        10                  SENATOR DIAZ:    They called me

        11       back, they called me back --

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Excuse

        13       me, Senator Diaz.  We are on Calendar Number

        14       2130.

        15                  We have a message of necessity at

        16       the desk.

        17                  The Secretary will read.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       2130, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 6422,

        20       an act to amend the Correction Law and the

        21       Mental Hygiene Law.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        23       Padavan.

        24                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Move to accept

        25       the message of necessity, Mr. President.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         2       motion is to accept the message of necessity.

         3       All in favor signify by saying aye.

         4                  (Response of "Aye.")

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:

         6       Opposed, nay.

         7                  (No response.)

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         9       message is accepted.

        10                  Read the last section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 8.  This

        12       act shall take effect immediately.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        14       the roll.

        15                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        17       Nozzolio, to explain his vote.

        18                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Thank you,

        19       Mr. President.

        20                  My colleagues, we are enacting this

        21       afternoon a landmark measure which is changing

        22       the complexity of our prison system.  It's a

        23       three-way agreement between the Assembly, the

        24       Senate --

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Excuse


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         1       me, Senator Nozzolio.

         2                  Could I ask for some order, please,

         3       and courtesy be extended to Senator Nozzolio,

         4       who's explaining his vote.

         5                  If you have a conversation, please

         6       take it outside the chamber.  Thank you.

         7                  Senator Nozzolio.

         8                  SENATOR NOZZOLIO:    Thank you,

         9       Mr. President.

        10                  My colleagues, this is a landmark

        11       legislative measure, fully agreed upon with

        12       the Assembly and the Governor, which will

        13       establish our prisons to be the hallmark of

        14       the prison system in all of the United States

        15       of America.

        16                  This legislation encourages,

        17       establishes and requires the different

        18       treatment of the mentally ill who are

        19       incarcerated behind our prisons.  That this

        20       bill enhances the safety and security of the

        21       men and women who work in our correctional

        22       facilities, walk the toughest law enforcement

        23       beat of all of those law enforcement officers

        24       of America, as our correction officers keep

        25       order within the prison system.


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         1                  This legislation will make our

         2       prisons safer, will make our prisons more

         3       humane.  And I fully endorse it, am pleased to

         4       see it pass, and thank you, Mr. President, for

         5       the ability and opportunity to explain it.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         7       Nozzolio is recorded in the affirmative.

         8                  Senator Duane, to explain his vote.

         9                  SENATOR DUANE:    Thank you,

        10       Mr. President.

        11                  I just once again want to commend

        12       Senator Nozzolio on this terrific piece of

        13       legislation.  And I'm very, very pleased that

        14       he also worked hard to forge an agreement with

        15       the executive so that we can have more humane

        16       and indeed safer conditions in our

        17       correctional facilities.

        18                  I'll be voting in the affirmative,

        19       Mr. President.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        21       Duane will be recorded in the affirmative.

        22                  Senator Montgomery, to explain her

        23       vote.

        24                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes,

        25       Mr. President.  I rise to join my colleague


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         1       Senator Duane in really thanking and

         2       complimenting Senator Nozzolio.

         3                  This really is a very important

         4       legislation.  It's one that we have hoped to

         5       see come to the floor for some time.  It

         6       reflects an intent to be much more humane,

         7       because a number of people who are

         8       incarcerated are in fact very seriously

         9       mentally ill.  And this legislation will help

        10       us identify and provide some treatment and try

        11       and make sure that people who do come back to

        12       their communities come back in hopefully a

        13       much better condition, mentally and

        14       psychologically, if they in fact have mental

        15       illness.

        16                  So I thank you, Senator Nozzolio,

        17       and I think you deserve a special commendation

        18       for this landmark legislation.

        19                  Thank you.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        21       Montgomery will be recorded in the

        22       affirmative.

        23                  Senator Oppenheimer, to explain her

        24       vote.

        25                  SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:    I just want


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         1       to say a word, Mr. President, about the woman

         2       that just spoke before me because Velmanette

         3       Montgomery had held hearings several years ago

         4       about SHUs and about how unfair and how

         5       medically unsound they were.

         6                  Certainly if you put someone with

         7       mental illness into a SHU, they're going to

         8       come out with worse mental illness.  And if we

         9       hope in some small way to rehabilitate people

        10       in prison, putting them in SHUs with mental

        11       illness does exactly the opposite.

        12                  So I thank you for the work you

        13       have been doing for many years, Senator

        14       Montgomery, and I certainly thank Senator

        15       Nozzolio for finally bringing this to the

        16       floor and offering some humane treatment to

        17       people who desperately need a little more

        18       humanity.

        19                  Thank you.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        21       Oppenheimer will be recorded in the

        22       affirmative.

        23                  Announce the results.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.  Nays,

        25       0.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         2       bill is passed.

         3                  (Scattered applause.)

         4                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

         6       Padavan.

         7                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    May we proceed

         8       with the noncontroversial calendar, Number

         9       2131.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        11       Secretary will read.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        13       2131, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 6423,

        14       an act to amend the Correction Law.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        16       Padavan.

        17                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    I ask that the

        18       message of necessity be accepted.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    There

        20       is a message at the desk.

        21                  The motion is to accept the message

        22       of necessity.  All in favor signify by saying

        23       aye.

        24                  (Response of "Aye.")

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:


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         1       Opposed, nay.

         2                  (No response.)

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         4       message is accepted.

         5                  Read the last section.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         7       act shall take effect on the same date and in

         8       the same manner as Section 4 of a chapter of

         9       the Laws of 2007.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Call

        11       the roll.

        12                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        15       bill is passed.

        16                  Senator Padavan.

        17                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Can we move to

        18       adopt the Resolution Calendar.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Motions

        20       and resolutions.

        21                  All in favor of adopting the

        22       Resolution Calendar signify by saying aye.

        23                  (Response of "Aye.")

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:

        25       Opposed, nay.


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         1                  (No response.)

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

         3       Resolution Calendar is adopted.

         4                  Senator Padavan.

         5                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

         6       we are about to stand at ease.  However, there

         7       is a Rules Committee meeting at this time.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    A

         9       meeting of the Rules Committee will be

        10       convened in the Majority Conference Room.

        11                  In the interim, the Senate will

        12       stand at ease.

        13                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        14       ease at 5:26 p.m.)

        15                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        16       at 5:48 p.m.)

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        18       Padavan.

        19                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

        20       may we please return to the reports of

        21       standing committees for a report of the Rules

        22       Committee.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    We will

        24       return to the order of reports of standing

        25       committees for the report of Rules Committee.


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         1                  The Secretary will read.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator Bruno,

         3       from the Committee on Rules, reports the

         4       following bills:

         5                  Senate Print 1052A, by Senator

         6       Little, an act to establish;

         7                  6249, by Senator Maziarz, an act to

         8       allow;

         9                  6351, by Senator Robach, an act to

        10       amend the Real Property Law;

        11                  4324B, by Senator Maziarz, an act

        12       to amend the Environmental Conservation Law;

        13                  3495, by Senator Libous, an act to

        14       amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

        15                  3841, by Senator Seward, an act to

        16       amend the Insurance Law;

        17                  3967A, by Senator Golden, an act to

        18       amend the Executive Law;

        19                  5525, by Senator Thompson, an act

        20       relating to certain bonds;

        21                  5687B, by Senator Fuschillo, an act

        22       to amend the Civil Service Law;

        23                  6396, by Senator Morahan, an act to

        24       amend a chapter of the Laws of 2007;

        25                  6398, by Senator DeFrancisco, an


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         1       act to amend a chapter of the Laws of 2007;

         2                  6403, by Senator Padavan, an act to

         3       amend the Civil Service Law;

         4                  6404, by Senator Maltese, an act to

         5       amend the Transportation Law;

         6                  6405, by Senator Marcellino, an act

         7       to amend a chapter of the Laws of 2007;

         8                  6408, by Senator Lanza, an act to

         9       amend the Criminal Procedure Law;

        10                  6409, by Senator Larkin, an act to

        11       amend the Tax Law;

        12                  6415, by Senator Morahan, an act to

        13       amend the Public Health Law;

        14                  6418, by the Senate Committee on

        15       Rules, an act to amend the Public Health Law;

        16                  6421, by Senator Libous, an act to

        17       amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

        18                  And Senate Print 3154, by Senator

        19       Montgomery, an act to amend the Family Court

        20       Act.

        21                  All bills ordered direct to third

        22       reading.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    Senator

        24       Padavan.

        25                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,


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         1       I move that the Rules Committee report be

         2       accepted.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    All in

         4       favor signify by saying aye.

         5                  (Response of "Aye.")

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:

         7       Opposed, nay.

         8                  (No response.)

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        10       Rules Committee report is accepted.

        11                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Can we stand at

        12       ease for a few moments, Mr. President.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WRIGHT:    The

        14       Senate will stand at ease.

        15                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        16       ease at 5:50 p.m.)

        17                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        18       at 5:55 p.m.)

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        20       Padavan.

        21                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

        22       may we have the noncontroversial reading of

        23       the calendar.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        25       Secretary will read.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         2       620, by Senator Little, Senate Print 1052A, an

         3       act to establish a blue ribbon commission.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         5       the last section.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         7       act shall take effect immediately.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         9       the roll.

        10                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        13       bill is passed.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        15       1934, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 6249,

        16       an act to allow William P. Grillo to file.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    There

        18       is a home-rule message at the desk.

        19                  The Secretary will read the last

        20       section.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

        22       act shall take effect immediately.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        24       the roll.

        25                  (The Secretary called the roll.)


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         3       bill is passed.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

         5       Calendar Number 1999, Senator Robach moves to

         6       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

         7       Assembly Bill Number 9244 and substitute it

         8       for the identical Senate Bill Number 6351,

         9       Third Reading Calendar 1999.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

        11       Substitution ordered.

        12                  The Secretary will read.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        14       1999, by Member of the Assembly Heastie,

        15       Assembly Print Number 9244, an act to amend

        16       the Real Property Law.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        18       the last section.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        20       act shall take effect immediately.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        22       the roll.

        23                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The


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         1       bill is passed.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         3       2011, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 4324B,

         4       an act to amend the Environmental Conservation

         5       Law.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         7       the last section.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        11       the roll.

        12                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        14       Maziarz, to explain his vote.

        15                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Thank you very

        16       much, Mr. President.

        17                  Mr. President, this is really a

        18       great day for the Great Lakes in New York

        19       State.  This is a bipartisan bill.  And I'm

        20       very proud, this bill has been in the works

        21       for several years now.  And New York State is

        22       taking a leadership role in moving this Great

        23       Lakes compact forward.  This involves several

        24       states and the federal government.

        25                  The Great Lakes ecosystem is a


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         1       natural wonder of the world.  It holds

         2       one-fifth -- one-fifth -- of the entire

         3       world's freshwater supply.  It is 95 percent

         4       of the freshwater surface in the entire United

         5       States.  Lake Erie, Lake Ontario and the

         6       St. Lawrence Seaway define over 700 miles of

         7       New York borders.  They supply water for

         8       millions of New Yorkers, businesses, and

         9       billion-dollar industries such as tourism and

        10       fishing.  These waters hold the key to our

        11       economic health, recreational opportunities,

        12       wildlife habitat, and regional character.

        13                  However, in the increasingly

        14       water-hungry world today, the Great Lakes are

        15       being eyed as an easy source by other regions

        16       of the country and even other parts of the

        17       world.  Some predict that freshwater will soon

        18       be more valuable than oil.  Some argue that it

        19       already is.  The Great Lakes seem limitless

        20       but in fact are able to replenish only about

        21       1 percent of their water each year.  If more

        22       water is taken out than the lakes can

        23       replenish, their fragile ecosystem is

        24       jeopardized, and everything that depends on

        25       it.


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         1                  Recognizing this, in 2001 the eight

         2       Great Lakes states and two Canadian provinces

         3       began negotiations about how to regulate water

         4       diversions from the Great Lakes and manage the

         5       water in a sustainable way.  Four years of

         6       negotiations produced the bill that is before

         7       us today, the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River

         8       Basin Water resources Compact.  It's a

         9       remarkable collaborative and, I stress,

        10       bipartisan achievement.

        11                  Each state and the United States

        12       Congress must ratify the compact for it to be

        13       implemented.

        14                  The bill calls on the Department of

        15       Environmental Conservation and New York's

        16       Great Lakes Basin Advisory Board to complete a

        17       number of tasks associated with implementing

        18       the compact in New York, including

        19       recommendations for any necessary further

        20       legislation.

        21                  The board will establish the method

        22       for determining the baseline of how much water

        23       can be used beyond current water-use levels.

        24       To do this, it will need to consider the

        25       historic levels of water use and the physical


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         1       capacity of the current water withdrawal

         2       systems, and it will determine the impacts of

         3       new or increased water withdrawals.

         4                  The use of Great Lakes water is

         5       complex and will be an increasingly

         6       contentious issue.  The board members should

         7       be representative of the many interests that

         8       have a stake in using Great Lakes water in

         9       order to collaboratively reach economically

        10       fair, ecologically defensible and feasible

        11       recommendations.

        12                  I urge the board to also find ways

        13       to include the Legislature and regional

        14       governance as it pursues its task.

        15                  Again, I want to emphasize that

        16       this is a bipartisan bill that represents a

        17       lot of hard work over a very long period of

        18       time.  And I want to commend all of my

        19       colleagues and the staff people who worked on

        20       this.

        21                  Thank you very much, Mr. President.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        23       Maziarz to be recorded in the negative.

        24                  Senator Thompson, to explain his

        25       vote.


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         1                  SENATOR THOMPSON:    Yes,

         2       Mr. President.  I believe that my colleague

         3       from Niagara County spoke very eloquently

         4       about why this bill is so important.

         5                  The Great Lakes-St. Lawrence River

         6       Basin Compact allows New York State to benefit

         7       from management decisions regarding water

         8       withdrawals and water use in the basin.

         9                  Let me also note as well that

        10       2 million residents throughout upstate

        11       New York rely on the Great Lakes and

        12       St. Lawrence drainage basins for their water.

        13       In fact, 15 percent of the state's electricity

        14       comes from two hydropower plants at Niagara

        15       and the FDR on the St. Lawrence as well.

        16                  As the Senator whose entire

        17       district is bordered by the Niagara River and

        18       includes most of the productive hydropower

        19       plants in the state, I can only support this

        20       well-deserved bill.  I congratulate the lead

        21       sponsor of this bill, which does have

        22       bipartisan support.

        23                  And we really have to continue to

        24       protect our water supply, and I think that's

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         1       and beyond, about fresh and clean water in

         2       American society.

         3                  Thank you.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

         5       Thompson to be recorded in the affirmative.

         6                  Senator Wright, to explain his

         7       vote.

         8                  SENATOR WRIGHT:    Thank you,

         9       Mr. President.

        10                  As one who represents the Lake

        11       Ontario region, at least eastern Lake Ontario,

        12       and the St. Lawrence River, I rise to commend

        13       Senator Maziarz and congratulate him on his

        14       efforts to achieve an agreement which I think

        15       is critical to the future of the Great Lakes

        16       region and particularly the northern New York

        17       region of the Great Lakes, which is heavily

        18       dependent upon that water resource, both from

        19       a tourism and a recreational standpoint, but

        20       also from a power and economic standpoint.

        21                  So I'm very pleased to join my

        22       colleague in supporting this legislation and

        23       want to recognize his efforts and all of the

        24       efforts that have brought it to passage here

        25       this afternoon.  I'll vote in the affirmative.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

         2       Wright to be recorded in the affirmative.

         3                  Senator Stachowski, to explain his

         4       vote.

         5                  SENATOR STACHOWSKI:    Yes,

         6       Mr. President, I too rise to congratulate

         7       everybody involved, and especially Senator

         8       Maziarz, and the fact that it was a bipartisan

         9       effort and that New York State is taking the

        10       lead.

        11                  As somebody who represents a lot of

        12       the shoreline of Lake Erie, it's very

        13       important to us.  And the fact is that the

        14       water from most of the Great Lakes end up

        15       going over the Niagara.  So it's important to

        16       have this compact to protect our clean water.

        17       It's very important not only from an economic

        18       standpoint but from a survival standpoint,

        19       because all of the people along the Great

        20       Lakes, their drinking water comes from there.

        21                  So with the threats to the

        22       freshwater that we have not only from various

        23       species but also from other states, as Senator

        24       Maziarz pointed out, this step is a very

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         1       important compact that will protect our Great

         2       Lakes waters for all the states that surround

         3       it.

         4                  Thank you.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

         6       Stachowski to be recorded in the affirmative.

         7                  Senator Alesi, to explain his vote.

         8                  SENATOR ALESI:    Thank you,

         9       Mr. President.

        10                  The Great Lakes are vitally

        11       important to all of us.  It's not just the

        12       issue that many of us have part of our

        13       districts on the Great Lakes, but as the

        14       chairman of the Committee on Commerce and

        15       Economic Development, I know how vitally

        16       important it is that we have this huge source

        17       of freshwater in the Northeast, part of a

        18       whole series of Great Lakes and waterways as

        19       well.

        20                  It's important to the people that I

        21       represent, the people in New York State -- in

        22       fact, people in the entire world -- when you

        23       think about the commerce that goes through the

        24       Great Lakes, whether it's between the lakes

        25       themselves or up the St. Lawrence Seaway.


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         1                  You think about the importance of a

         2       source of freshwater for the millions of

         3       people that rely on it for drinking.  Tourism,

         4       the state's number-two industry, is so reliant

         5       on our Great Lakes, as well as agriculture,

         6       which is the state's number-one industry.  And

         7       energy as well.

         8                  There are so many times when we

         9       take for granted turning on the water and

        10       getting fresh water or any of the things that

        11       the Great Lakes provide for us.  And I think

        12       that Senator Maziarz and those people who

        13       worked along with him, recognizing that this

        14       is an international effort, should be

        15       congratulated for their diligence and for

        16       their commitment to this compact.

        17                  I'm proud to support it and thank

        18       Senator Maziarz for his efforts as well.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        20       Alesi to be recorded in the affirmative.

        21                  Senator DeFrancisco, to explain his

        22       vote.

        23                  SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    As a

        24       cosponsor, I want to rise and also indicate my

        25       support for this bill.


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         1                  I think that the benefits of the

         2       bill have pretty well been outlined, and I

         3       think there's another significant factor here.

         4       And that is that the compact is a compact

         5       among several states and two Canadian

         6       provinces.  And despite being continually

         7       criticized as being a dysfunctional

         8       legislature, we are among the leaders in

         9       moving this compact.  And hopefully our

        10       leadership of being one of the first to sign

        11       on is going to be important to make this a

        12       reality.

        13                  And the importance of this bill

        14       cannot be overemphasized in view of how it's

        15       going to affect the use of those lakes for

        16       many, many generations to come.  I vote aye.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        18       DeFrancisco to be recorded in the affirmative.

        19                  Announce the results.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.  Nays,

        21       0.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        23       bill is passed.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        25       Calendar Number 2132, Senator Libous moves to


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         1       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

         2       Assembly Bill Number 8051 and substitute it

         3       for the identical Senate Bill Number 3495,

         4       Third Reading Calendar 2132.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

         6       Substitution ordered.

         7                  The Secretary will read.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         9       2132, by Member of the Assembly Bradley,

        10       Assembly Print Number 8051, an act to amend

        11       the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        13       the last section.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        15       act shall take effect immediately.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        17       the roll.

        18                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        21       bill is passed.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        23       Calendar Number 2133, Senator Seward moves to

        24       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        25       Assembly Bill Number 9233 and substitute it


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         1       for the identical Senate Bill Number 3841,

         2       Third Reading Calendar 2133.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

         4       Substitution ordered.

         5                  The Secretary will read.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         7       2133, by Member of the Assembly Morelle,

         8       Assembly Print Number 9233, an act to amend

         9       the Insurance Law.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        11       the last section.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        13       act shall take effect immediately.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        15       the roll.

        16                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        19       bill is passed.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        21       Calendar Number 2134, Senator Golden moves to

        22       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        23       Assembly Bill Number 7129A and substitute it

        24       for the identical Senate Bill Number 3967A,

        25       Third Reading Calendar 2134.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

         2       Substitution ordered.

         3                  The Secretary will read.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         5       2134, by Member of the Assembly Millman,

         6       Assembly Print Number 7129A, an act to amend

         7       the Executive Law and the Social Services Law.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         9       the last section.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 13.  This

        11       act shall take effect on the first of April

        12       next succeeding.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        14       the roll.

        15                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        18       bill is passed.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        20       2135, by Senator Thompson, Senate Print 5525,

        21       an act relating to certain bonds issued by the

        22       City of Buffalo.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    There

        24       is a home-rule message at the desk.

        25                  Read the last section.


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

         2       act shall take effect immediately.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         4       the roll.

         5                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         8       bill is passed.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        10       2136, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print

        11       5687B, an act to amend the Civil Service Law.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        13       the last section.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

        15       act shall take effect immediately.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        17       the roll.

        18                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        21       bill is passed.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        23       2137, by Senator Morahan, Senate Print 6396,

        24       an act to amend a chapter of the Laws of 2007,

        25       establishing a temporary task force.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         2       the last section.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         4       act shall take effect on the same date and in

         5       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of

         6       2007.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         8       the roll.

         9                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        14       2138, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print

        15       6398, an act to amend a chapter of the Laws of

        16       2007, amending the Court of Claims Act.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        18       the last section.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        20       act shall take effect on the same date and in

        21       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of

        22       2007.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        24       the roll.

        25                  (The Secretary called the roll.)


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

         2       1.  Senator Saland recorded in the negative.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         4       bill is passed.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       2139, by Senator Padavan, Senate Print 6403,

         7       an act to amend the Civil Service Law.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         9       the last section.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        11       act shall take effect immediately.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        13       the roll.

        14                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        17       bill is passed.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        19       2140, by Senator Maltese, Senate Print 6404,

        20       an act to amend the Transportation Law.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        22       the last section.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        24       act shall take effect on the same date and in

        25       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of


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         1       2007.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         3       the roll.

         4                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         7       bill is passed.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         9       2141, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print

        10       6405, an act to amend a chapter of the Laws of

        11       2007, amending the Education Law.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        13       the last section.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        15       act shall take effect on the same date and in

        16       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of

        17       2007.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        19       the roll.

        20                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        23       bill is passed.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        25       2142, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 6408, an


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         1       act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         3       the last section.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         5       act shall take effect on the same date and in

         6       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of

         7       2007.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         9       the roll.

        10                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        13       bill is passed.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        15       2143, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 6409, an

        16       act to amend the Tax Law.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        18       the last section.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        20       act shall take effect on the same date and in

        21       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of

        22       2007.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        24       the roll.

        25                  (The Secretary called the roll.)


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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         3       bill is passed.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

         5       Calendar Number 2144, Senator Klein [sic]

         6       moves to discharge, from the Committee on

         7       Rules, Assembly Bill Number 7076C and

         8       substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

         9       Number 6415, Third Reading Calendar 2144.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        11       substitution is so ordered.

        12                  Calendar Number 2144 will be laid

        13       aside temporarily.

        14                  The Secretary will read.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        16       2145, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate

        17       Print 6418, an act to amend the Public Health

        18       Law.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        20       the last section.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 6.  This

        22       act shall take effect on the same date and in

        23       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of

        24       2007.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call


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         1       the roll.

         2                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         5       bill is passed.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         7       2146, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 6421, an

         8       act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        10       the last section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        12       act shall take effect on the same date and in

        13       the same manner as a chapter of the Laws of

        14       2007.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        16       the roll.

        17                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        20       bill is passed.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        22       Calendar Number 2147, Senator Montgomery moves

        23       to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        24       Assembly Bill Number 1353 and substitute it

        25       for the identical Senate Bill Number 3154,


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         1       Third Reading Calendar 2147.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

         3       Substitution ordered.

         4                  The Secretary will read.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         6       2147, by Member of the Assembly Aubertine,

         7       Assembly Print Number 1353, an act to amend

         8       the Family Court Act.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        10       the last section.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        12       act shall take effect on the first of

        13       November.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        15       the roll.

        16                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        18       Wright, to explain his vote.

        19                  SENATOR WRIGHT:    Thank you,

        20       Mr. President.

        21                  I join Senator Montgomery and

        22       encourage the adoption of this legislation.

        23                  As you may well be aware, for each

        24       of the last three years, going back to 2005,

        25       we have debated a series of bills attempting


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         1       to increase the penalties on individuals who

         2       desecrate a cemetery, gravesites, tombstones,

         3       et cetera.  We unfortunately have not been

         4       successful in having any of that legislation

         5       adopted within the Assembly.

         6                  This particular bill is one that

         7       has passed the Assembly.  And as a result, I

         8       encourage and have encouraged members to pass

         9       Senator Montgomery's companion bill so in fact

        10       we get a result, that we not be preoccupied

        11       with sponsorship, minority or majority

        12       affiliation, but in fact we get things done

        13       for people who need to have issues addressed.

        14       And that in fact is what this bill does.

        15                  I'll be glad to join with Senator

        16       Montgomery voting aye.  Thank you.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        18       Wright to be recorded in the affirmative.

        19                  Senator Montgomery, to explain her

        20       vote.

        21                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes, Mr.

        22       President.  I want to also just thank Senator

        23       Wright for joining me in support of this

        24       legislation.  It's a small bill, but it's a

        25       big issue.


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         1                  And both he and I are in agreement

         2       that this is a measure that we think makes a

         3       lot of sense, that it requires restitution.

         4       And I believe that most of the desecration of

         5       cemeteries, or a lot of it, is done by

         6       juveniles.  And we would like to see them have

         7       a form of punishment that is very, very

         8       appropriate, and that is that it requires them

         9       to do restitution and repair the damage that

        10       they caused.

        11                  So I thank you, Senator Wright, and

        12       I thank my colleagues for supporting and

        13       certainly I hope that everyone will support

        14       this legislation.

        15                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        17       Montgomery to be recorded in the affirmative.

        18                  Announce the results.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.  Nays,

        20       0.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        22       bill is passed.

        23                  We will now return to Calendar

        24       Number 2144.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to


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         1       Calendar Number 2144, Senator Morahan moves to

         2       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

         3       Assembly Bill Number 7076C and substitute it

         4       for the identical Senate Bill Number 6415,

         5       Third Reading Calendar 2144.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         7       substitution is so ordered.

         8                  The Secretary will read.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        10       2144, by Member of the Assembly N. Rivera,

        11       Assembly Print Number 7076C, an act to amend

        12       the Public Health Law.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        14       the last section.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        16       act shall take effect immediately.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        18       the roll.

        19                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        22       bill is passed.

        23                  Senator Padavan, that completes the

        24       noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

        25                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Thank you,


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         1       Mr. President.

         2                  May we return to the order of

         3       messages from the Governor.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

         5       Messages from the Governor.

         6                  The Secretary will read.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    The Governor

         8       returned, without executive approval, Calendar

         9       Number 181, Senate Print 3070, by Senator

        10       Maziarz, Veto Number 27.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        12       Padavan.

        13                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

        14       I move that we lay said bill, as vetoed by the

        15       Governor, on the desk.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    So

        17       ordered.

        18                  Senator Padavan.

        19                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

        20       may we return to the order of motions and

        21       resolutions.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    We will

        23       return to motions and resolutions.

        24                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    I move to take

        25       from the table Senate Bill Number 3070, as


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         1       vetoed by the Governor.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    So

         3       ordered.

         4                  Senator Padavan.

         5                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

         6       I now move to override the Governor's veto of

         7       said bill.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         9       Secretary will read.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        11       181, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 3070, an

        12       act to amend the Workers' Compensation Law:

        13       Veto Message 27.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        15       Padavan, the bill is before the house.

        16                  Senators, ought the same become a

        17       law notwithstanding the veto of the Governor?

        18                  The Secretary will read the last

        19       section.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 6.  This

        21       act shall take effect immediately.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        23       the roll.

        24                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.


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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         2       motion to override the Governor's veto is

         3       carried.

         4                  Senator Padavan.

         5                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    There will be

         6       an immediate meeting of the Rules Committee,

         7       Mr. President.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    There

         9       will be an immediate meeting of the Rules

        10       Committee in the Senate Majority Conference

        11       Room.

        12                  The Senate will stand at ease.

        13                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        14       ease at 6:20 p.m.)

        15                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        16       at 6:25 p.m.)

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        18       Senate will come to order.

        19                  Senator Padavan.

        20                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

        21       I believe we have a report from the Rules

        22       Committee at the desk.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    We do

        24       have a report from the Rules Committee at the

        25       desk.


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         1                  The Secretary will read.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator Bruno,

         3       from the Committee on Rules, reports the

         4       following bill direct to third reading:

         5                  Assembly Print 9238, by Member of

         6       the Assembly Hoyt, an act to amend Chapter 444

         7       of the Laws of 1997 amending the General

         8       Municipal Law.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        10       Padavan.

        11                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Move to accept

        12       the report of the Rules Committee.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    On the

        14       motion, all in favor signify by saying aye.

        15                  (Response of "Aye.")

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

        17       Opposed, nay.

        18                  (No response.)

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        20       report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

        21                  The Secretary will read.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        23       2120, by Member of the Assembly Hoyt, Assembly

        24       Print Number 9238, an act to amend Chapter 444

        25       of the Laws of 1997 amending the General


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         1       Municipal Law.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         3       the last section.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         7       the roll.

         8                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        11       Alesi, to explain his vote.

        12                  SENATOR ALESI:    Thank you,

        13       Mr. President.

        14                  I had some initial concerns that

        15       this bill would have a negative effect on some

        16       local IDAs, not the least of which would be

        17       one in my district, the Village of Fairport.

        18                  We've carefully looked at the bill

        19       now, and I am satisfied that those concerns

        20       about dismantling those local and very

        21       worthwhile active IDAs such as the one that I

        22       am concerned about no longer has the potential

        23       negative impact that I originally spoke about

        24       when I expressed my concerns about this bill.

        25                  And with that in mind, I think I'm


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         1       prepared to move forward in the affirmative in

         2       an effort to join my colleagues in improving a

         3       system of development that will benefit all of

         4       New York State.

         5                  I will vote in the affirmative.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

         7       Alesi to be recorded in the affirmative.

         8                  Announce the results.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        10       Calendar Number 2120, ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

        11       Senator Padavan recorded in the negative.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        13       bill is passed.

        14                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

        15       if we could stand at ease just for a couple of

        16       seconds, please.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        18       Senate will stand at ease.

        19                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        20       ease at 6:27 p.m.)

        21                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        22       at 6:28 p.m.)

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        24       Padavan.

        25                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Is there any


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         1       housekeeping at the desk?

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    There

         3       is one item.

         4                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Calendar Number

         5       2129, please recommit that bill to rules.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    So

         7       ordered.

         8                  There is no other housekeeping at

         9       the desk.

        10                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    Mr. President,

        11       there will be an immediate meeting of the

        12       Majority in the Majority Conference Room

        13       immediately after session.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    There

        15       will be an immediate meeting of the Majority

        16       conference in the Majority Conference Room

        17       following session.

        18                  SENATOR PADAVAN:    There being no

        19       further business, I move we adjourn to the

        20       call of the Majority Leader, intervening days

        21       being legislative days.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    On

        23       motion, the Senate stands adjourned until the

        24       call of the Majority Leader, intervening days

        25       being legislative days.


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         1                  SENATOR DILAN:    Mr. President,

         2       there will also be a meeting of the Minority

         3       conference immediately after session.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    There

         5       will also be a meeting of the Minority

         6       conference in the Minority Conference Room.

         7                  The Senate stands adjourned.

         8                  (Whereupon, at 6:30 p.m., the

         9       Senate adjourned.)

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