Regular Session - December 15, 2008

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         1                 NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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         4                THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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         9                   ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                   December 15, 2008

        11                       3:17 p.m.

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        14                    REGULAR SESSION

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        18  SENATOR GEORGE H. WINNER, JR., Acting President

        19  STEVEN M. BOGGESS, Secretary

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         1                 P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         3       Senate will come to order.

         4                  I ask everyone present to please

         5       rise and repeat with me the Pledge of

         6       Allegiance.

         7                  (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

         8       the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    In the

        10       absence of clergy, may we bow our heads in a

        11       moment of silence.

        12                  (Whereupon, the assemblage

        13       respected a moment of silence.)

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        15       reading of the Journal.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

        17       Sunday, December 14, the Senate met pursuant

        18       to adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday,

        19       December 13, was read and approved.  On

        20       motion, Senate adjourned.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Without

        22       objection, the Journal stands approved as

        23       read.

        24                  May we have some order, please.

        25                  Presentation of petitions.



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         1                  Messages from the Assembly.

         2                  Messages from the Governor.

         3                  Reports of standing committees.

         4                  Senator Libous.

         5                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President, I

         6       believe there's a report of the Judiciary

         7       Committee at the desk.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         9       Secretary will read the report of the

        10       Judiciary Committee.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator

        12       DeFrancisco, from the Committee on Judiciary,

        13       reports the following nominations:

        14                  As justice of the Supreme Court of

        15       the Second Judicial District, Honorable Lewis

        16       Bart Stone, of New York City.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        18       DeFrancisco.

        19                  SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    Thank you.

        20                  I'm proud to rise and explain that

        21       the three nominees that will be presented to

        22       the full Senate today all have been thoroughly

        23       reviewed by not only the Governor's office but

        24       also by the State Senate; in fact, reviewed so

        25       carefully that we didn't get these on the



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         1       floor when they really wanted to come here a

         2       couple of weeks ago.

         3                  In addition, each of the nominees

         4       went before the Senate Judiciary Committee

         5       this morning and all were determined to be

         6       well-qualified, and with the unanimous

         7       recommendation for all three to be sent to the

         8       full Senate.

         9                  With respect specifically to Judge

        10       Lewis Bart Stone, I just want to mention that

        11       Judge Stone has been a Court of Claims judge

        12       since 2000, and he's got an extremely

        13       distinguished career before that, including a

        14       partner in the firm of Rogers & Wells.

        15                  What I found particularly

        16       interesting was that not only did he go to

        17       Harvard Law School, but he went to RPI and had

        18       a degree in biomedical, I guess, chemical

        19       engineering.  And I've always felt that people

        20       with engineering backgrounds always make the

        21       best lawyers.

        22                  And with that said, I'm proud to

        23       move his nomination.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        25       question is on the nomination of the Honorable



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         1       Lewis Bart Stone as justice of the Supreme

         2       Court of the Second Judicial District.  All

         3       those in favor signify by saying aye.

         4                  (Response of "Aye.")

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

         6       Opposed, nay.

         7                  (No response.)

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Justice

         9       Stone is hereby confirmed as justice of the

        10       Supreme Court of the Second Judicial District.

        11                  Justice Stone is here today and is

        12       accompanied by his wife, Gretchen.

        13                  My congratulations to you, Justice.

        14                  (Applause.)

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        16       Secretary will read.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    As a judge of the

        18       Court of Claims, Honorable Frank P. Milano, of

        19       Delmar.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        21       DeFrancisco.

        22                  SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    I also move

        23       the nomination of the Honorable Frank P.

        24       Milano for the position of judge of the Court

        25       of Claims.



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         1                  And I would request that you

         2       recognize Senator Breslin for a second.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         4       Breslin.

         5                  SENATOR BRESLIN:    Thank you very

         6       much, Mr. President.

         7                  I rise to support and second the

         8       nomination of Frank Milano, who back in 2006

         9       was a Governor Pataki appointment, one of many

        10       Governor Pataki's appointments who were

        11       extremely well-qualified for the position.

        12       He's had an exemplary record while on the

        13       bench for the past two years.

        14                  Prior to that, he had served in any

        15       number of different legal capacities,

        16       including but not limited to as a town judge.

        17       He'd been the partner in a major Albany law

        18       firm, had worked -- as a matter of fact, to

        19       show you how much experience he had, he worked

        20       for the Senate Majority back in the early

        21       '80s, was deputy Secretary of State and

        22       general counsel.

        23                  But most importantly, extremely

        24       well-qualified, nonpartisan, and -- which I

        25       hope doesn't affect the other side -- a friend



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         1       of mine.  And I'm happy to second that

         2       nomination of Frank Milano.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         4       question is on the nomination of Frank P.

         5       Milano as a judge of the Court of Claims.  All

         6       in favor signify by saying aye.

         7                  (Response of "Aye.")

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

         9       Opposed, nay.

        10                  (No response.)

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Judge

        12       Frank P. Milano is hereby confirmed as a judge

        13       of the New York State Court of Claims.

        14                  He is also accompanied by his

        15       father, Frank, and his son, Peter.

        16                  My congratulations to you, Judge.

        17       And good luck to you.

        18                  (Applause.)

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        20       Secretary will read.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    As a judge of the

        22       Court of Claims, Michael H. Melkonian, of West

        23       Sand Lake.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        25       DeFrancisco.



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         1                  SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    I'd move

         2       the nomination of Michael H. Melkonian, of

         3       West Sand Lake, as a judge of the Court of

         4       Claims.

         5                  I know he was concerned during the

         6       Judiciary Committee meeting about whether or

         7       not his children were going to behave in

         8       Senate chambers, but they're behaving better

         9       than he is, I believe.

        10                  And with that said, I would request

        11       that you call on Senator Maltese to second the

        12       nomination.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        14       Maltese.

        15                  SENATOR MALTESE:    Yes,

        16       Mr. President, I'm very pleased and honored to

        17       second the nomination of Mike Melkonian.

        18                  He graduated cum laude from Marist

        19       College.  He is a St. John's Law School

        20       graduate.  He worked on staff as my chief

        21       counsel in 1992 to 1994.

        22                  His experience is varied,

        23       certainly, serving with the New York State

        24       Department of Law, in the Litigation Bureau;

        25       he worked there for two years.  He was with



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         1       the New York State Office of Mental Health as

         2       assistant counsel for two years.

         3                  In addition, at the same time, he

         4       served for seven years as a judge advocate and

         5       headquarters commander with the United States

         6       Army Reserve, was also two years with the

         7       New York State Army National Guard as a

         8       military liaison.

         9                  And he served as assistant counsel

        10       to the Majority for eight years here in

        11       Albany.

        12                  He's definitely one of our own, a

        13       man of high integrity.  He has also served as

        14       deputy counsel for four years with the

        15       Rensselaer County Legislature, and most

        16       recently he was with the New York State

        17       Legislative Bill Drafting Commission as a

        18       commissioner.

        19                  Certainly he's someone I've come to

        20       know over the years, both personally and

        21       professionally.  I'm very pleased that he met

        22       his wife, Caroline, while both were serving in

        23       my office.

        24                  It's my great pleasure and honor

        25       today to second the nomination of Mike



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         1       Melkonian as a judge of the Court of Claims.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Thank

         3       you, Senator Maltese.

         4                  Senator Flanagan.

         5                  SENATOR FLANAGAN:    Thank you,

         6       Mr. President.  I just wanted to speak on the

         7       nomination.

         8                  Mike I think is a very good example

         9       of a lot of things that we don't often read

        10       about.  You look at government generally and

        11       you look at people who work in the public

        12       sector, and oftentimes if we succeed it's

        13       because we work with good people, people who

        14       are sometimes behind the scenes more than they

        15       are in front.

        16                  I think he is a perfect example of

        17       someone who has been a terrific team player,

        18       incredibly loyal, diligent.  I had a chance to

        19       work with him extensively when I chaired the

        20       Election Law Committee when we were dealing

        21       with some very thorny and delicate issues

        22       involving HAVA.  He was the consummate

        23       professional.  I think he speaks volumes about

        24       what it means to be in public service.

        25                  And frankly, he's a good guy, and



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         1       it's just nice to see somebody who's a good

         2       guy succeed.

         3                  Mike, congratulations.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         5       Farley.

         6                  SENATOR FARLEY:    Thank you.  I

         7       rise also to support the nomination of

         8       Michael, who not only is a member of this

         9       Senate family, he's served with great

        10       distinction in a lot of roles here.

        11                  You know, I don't think I've seen

        12       any judge ever being appointed that's brought

        13       nine members of his family here with him.

        14       That just shows you what a family guy he is.

        15                  But Mike is not only a great person

        16       and a loyal -- as John was saying, is a loyal

        17       member of this house, but you've served with

        18       distinction in our bill drafting area and in a

        19       nonpartisan, bipartisan way.

        20                  And I'm pleased to support your

        21       nomination, Mike.  Good luck to you.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        23       Volker.

        24                  SENATOR VOLKER:    Yeah, I just

        25       want to say -- and my voice is a little shaky



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         1       today because I got a nasty cold that I

         2       brought back from western New York.

         3                  Mike Melkonian is one of the people

         4       who we call a go-to guy.  If you need help in

         5       a whole series of areas, he was a guy who

         6       would -- you'd go to to help you.

         7                  Just recently, he was supposed to

         8       be sent over to Iraq, and some of us were a

         9       little concerned about security around here.

        10       And whatever happened, they didn't send him.

        11       And he walked in one day and I said, "Jeez,

        12       thank goodness, I didn't feel safe with Mike

        13       not being here."  And the guy next to me said,

        14       "I didn't even know who he was."  I said,

        15       "Well, that just goes to show you."

        16                  And Mike's been around for here for

        17       a lot of years -- a fine gentleman, a very

        18       bright and erudite guy.  He'll be perfect for

        19       the Court of Claims.

        20                  And I wish you the best of luck.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        22       Maziarz.

        23                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Thank you very

        24       much, Mr. President.

        25                  I rise too to second this



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         1       nomination of Judge Melkonian.  It's great to

         2       see him here today with his family.  Mike, as

         3       Senator Farley said, is a member of this

         4       Senate team, the whole team, and has done a

         5       great job.

         6                  And I know, particularly on the

         7       criminal justice issues, a family in my

         8       district had a son who was killed by a drunk

         9       driver, and the father happened to be involved

        10       in the military, and he really connected well

        11       with Mike.  And you really helped that family

        12       over a very, very -- the most tragic incident,

        13       of course, in their entire life.

        14                  And you're going to be a great

        15       judge on the Court of Claims, Mike.  We're

        16       going to miss you here, but this is a great

        17       step for you.  Congratulations to you and to

        18       your family.

        19                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        21       Libous.

        22                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you,

        23       Mr. President.  I too want to join my

        24       colleagues in seconding the nomination of Mike

        25       Melkonian.



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         1                  I worked with Mike when I chaired

         2       the Mental Health Committee, and Mike was

         3       instrumental in helping us put together and

         4       author a number of major pieces of legislation

         5       to help people with mental illness and

         6       developmental disabilities in this state.

         7                  And, Mike, for your commitment and

         8       assistance, I want to say thank you there.

         9       And certainly for your service to our country,

        10       I want to again, on this floor, say thank you.

        11       And I know that you're going to make an

        12       outstanding Court of Claims judge.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        14       question is on the nomination of Michael H.

        15       Melkonian as a judge of the Court of Claims.

        16       All in favor signify by saying aye.

        17                  (Response of "Aye.")

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        19       Opposed, nay.

        20                  (Response of "Nay.")

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Michael

        22       H. Melkonian is hereby confirmed as a judge of

        23       the New York State Court of Claims.

        24                  Congratulations, Judge.

        25                  He's accompanied by his wife,



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         1       Caroline; his children, Olivia and Max; his

         2       parents, Cedric and Alice; his brother Ken and

         3       his wife Lucinda; and his sister Karin and her

         4       husband Russ.

         5                  Again, my congratulations and best

         6       wishes to you.

         7                  (Applause.)

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Reports

         9       of select committees.

        10                  Communications and reports from

        11       state officers.

        12                  Motions and resolutions.

        13                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        15       Libous.

        16                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Could we adopt

        17       the Resolution Calendar, with the exception of

        18       Calendar Number 7195, 7363 and 7463, please.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    All in

        20       favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar

        21       signify by saying aye.

        22                  (Response of "Aye.")

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        24       Opposed, nay.

        25                  (No response.)



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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         2       Resolution Calendar is adopted.

         3                  Senator Libous.

         4                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Could we have

         5       Resolution 7195 and have its title read,

         6       please.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         8       Secretary will read.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    By Senator C.

        10       Johnson, Legislative Resolution Number 7195,

        11       mourning the death of Rhoda Amon, a woman of

        12       singular distinction and extraordinary

        13       accomplishment.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        15       Johnson.

        16                  SENATOR CRAIG JOHNSON:    Thank

        17       you, Mr. President.

        18                  This resolution honors the life of

        19       Rhoda Amon, a Port Washington resident,

        20       newspaper reporter for more than four decades,

        21       and a trailblazing member of her profession.

        22       She passed away on October 25th of this year,

        23       leaving Long Island, New York State, and

        24       newsrooms everywhere much better places than

        25       she found them.



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         1                  For 42 years, Rhoda worked at

         2       Newsday, earning a reputation as an intrepid

         3       features reporter with a thirst for travel.

         4       She reported from foreign countries and

         5       interviewed those who control the levers of

         6       power.  However, it was the humanity and the

         7       care that she took when writing about everyday

         8       Long Islanders and her drive for equality were

         9       what distinguished her as a journalist and as

        10       a person.

        11                  Rhoda managed not only to break the

        12       glass ceiling in the newsroom, but also

        13       managed to tear down a few walls as well.  She

        14       was among a group of female reporters who were

        15       tired of being constrained to the society

        16       pages and paid less than their male

        17       counterparts, who filed a federal lawsuit that

        18       resulted in changes to Newsday's hiring

        19       practices.  And it was actually through pay

        20       equity, a goal she continued to seek decades

        21       after her own legal action, that led our paths

        22       to cross.

        23                  In my interactions with Rhoda, she

        24       was always fair and never flinching in her

        25       questions.  Her attention to detail and



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         1       dedication to accuracy were second to none, as

         2       was her commitment to see what was just.

         3                  It was these qualities that Rhoda

         4       had instilled in the reporters that she had

         5       mentored, including her grandson, Michael, who

         6       for the last few years sat a couple of desks

         7       away from her at Newsday.

         8                  Last month I joined hundreds of

         9       others at a memorial service honoring Rhoda.

        10       For nearly two hours, person after person

        11       detailed the tremendous impact that she had on

        12       their lives.  What stuck out in my own mind

        13       was one woman, a wife of a soldier who had

        14       returned from Iraq and was denied medical

        15       treatment that he needed.

        16                  In reporting out a story about this

        17       struggle, this woman talked about how Rhoda

        18       put her and her husband at ease as they were

        19       talking about what had become a deeply

        20       personal situation.  The woman said that the

        21       resulting article not only did them justice,

        22       but that her husband would not be alive today

        23       without Rhoda.

        24                  That was only one story.  I know

        25       there are many more like it.  We are all



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         1       richer for having Rhoda in our life.  She is

         2       missed by those who knew her, by those who

         3       loved her, and all of those who she touched

         4       through her work, through her words, and

         5       through her pursuits.  I count myself as one

         6       of them.

         7                  Thank you very much, Mr. President.

         8       I certainly open up this resolution for

         9       cosigners.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    All

        11       those in favor of Resolution 7195 signify by

        12       saying aye.

        13                  (Response of "Aye.")

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        15       Opposed, nay.

        16                  (No response.)

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        18       resolution is adopted.

        19                  The Secretary will read.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

        21       Larkin, Legislative Resolution Number 7363,

        22       paying tribute to the many accomplishments of

        23       President John F. Kennedy and memorializing

        24       the 45th anniversary of his death on

        25       November 22, 2008.



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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         2       Larkin.

         3                  SENATOR LARKIN:    Thank you,

         4       Mr. President.

         5                  You know, I had hoped to do this on

         6       the 18th of November, but, you know,

         7       circumstances beyond my control prohibited, so

         8       we're here today.

         9                  You know, my relationship with

        10       President Kennedy was small but sincere.  In

        11       April 1963, we were informed by Ambassador

        12       Goodell that President Kennedy would visit

        13       Europe in June of 1963.  The accomplishments

        14       and turmoil of doing such a job that

        15       encompassed all the armed forces that were

        16       then stationed in Europe and assembled them to

        17       Germany and pay specific attention to some of

        18       the things that the president wanted.

        19                  The president wanted to visit with

        20       troops at the troop level.  The president

        21       wanted to eat with the enlisted men, not the

        22       officers.  The president wanted to talk to

        23       some airborne people.

        24                  To one airborne gentleman, the

        25       president said:  "I see you've jumped a lot."



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         1       He said, "Yes, but they won't let me jump

         2       anymore, because I'm 57 years old."  President

         3       Kennedy turned around to the commander of the

         4       airborne unit, and said "Why not?"  He said,

         5       "I've been here two weeks, sir, but he'll jump

         6       tomorrow."

         7                  He said, "Thrill jumping" -- the

         8       master sergeant says to the president, "It's

         9       the biggest thrill you'll ever get in your

        10       life."  And ladies and gentlemen, the

        11       president looked at him and said, "There are

        12       people who will differ with you."

        13                  Who laughed?

        14                  But President Kennedy's attitude

        15       while he was in Europe, the immense personal

        16       feeling he had about the troops, talking to

        17       them at every level, making sure that they

        18       were comfortable -- when you talked to the

        19       Secret Service, they told you about when he

        20       was first elected in '60 and going down to

        21       Miami and having all of those accommodations

        22       for the Secret Service.

        23                  Everybody that was there in those

        24       functions in Europe knew that the president

        25       was a combat veteran, PT-109, and they



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         1       respected him.  Those of us who were on that

         2       detail from April till June got a special

         3       respect for the president.  And when we went

         4       through Germany, we went to Ireland.  When we

         5       went to Berlin before Ireland, the turnout was

         6       the greatest I've ever seen in my life.

         7       Personal respect for a man who deserved their

         8       respect.

         9                  Most of my Army friends at that

        10       time were registered as an independent,

        11       because you didn't want to tick off anybody at

        12       the top.  But November 22nd of '63 I arrived

        13       back in the States, and the first thing I

        14       heard was that the president was shot.  I

        15       thought it was an Orson Welles comedy, and

        16       then I found out it wasn't.

        17                  I that night went to the Pentagon,

        18       my assignment station, and the mood was so

        19       somber, you could have seen people from one

        20       side of -- you never knew what side of the

        21       aisle they were on.  But the feeling that they

        22       had for the president -- people were talking

        23       to people all over the world, what were we

        24       doing, what we should be doing, and everybody

        25       had one thing to say.  Those who met him,



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         1       those who had the privilege of greeting him

         2       were astonished at how he personally made you

         3       feel like you were the most important person

         4       there was.

         5                  In five days, from the date of his

         6       assassination till his burial, I had never

         7       seen a nation in such awe of such an

         8       individual.  I never saw young individuals --

         9       you could take the cameras that were being

        10       shown and see the lines; the lines were two

        11       and three and four hours to get in to view his

        12       casket.

        13                  He taught a lot of us a lot of

        14       things.  A lot of people in this room probably

        15       weren't even born when he was assassinated.

        16       But I think a lot of them should remember one

        17       thing:  He was a great American, he loved his

        18       country.  And I am honored I had the privilege

        19       of being the project officer for his visit to

        20       the United States Army Europe.

        21                  Thank you.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    All

        23       those in favor of Resolution 7363, by Senator

        24       Larkin, signify by saying aye.

        25                  (Response of "Aye.")



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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

         2       Opposed, nay.

         3                  (No response.)

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         5       resolution is adopted.

         6                  This resolution, as the prior

         7       resolution, are available for sponsorship by

         8       all members.  Those that do not wish to be on

         9       either of those resolutions please contact the

        10       desk.

        11                  The Secretary will read.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    By Senator

        13       Maltese, Legislative Resolution Number 7463,

        14       horning Ronald James Sorenson upon the

        15       occasion of his special recognition for

        16       honorable service and dedication to ensuring

        17       the memory of victims of terrorism.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        19       Maltese.

        20                  SENATOR MALTESE:    Mr. President,

        21       I rise in support of this resolution,

        22       recognizing and honoring Ronald James

        23       Sorenson.

        24                  Ron James is well-known among all

        25       the veterans and the legislators here in the



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         1       Capitol, constantly lobbying on behalf of the

         2       veterans.

         3                  He has, in addition, been extremely

         4       active with the Citizens Flag Alliance and as

         5       a matter of fact is the designer and chief

         6       proponent of a flag "Missing in Attack on Our

         7       Nation," which has been the subject of

         8       legislation in this house, legislation Senate

         9       7139A, which passed this body, indicating that

        10       the flag can be flown on September 11th at the

        11       State Capitol and all official buildings of

        12       the state.

        13                  Ron James is a veteran of the

        14       United States Marine Corps.  He has been

        15       putting aside a great deal of his life, not

        16       sparing of his own time and effort and

        17       diligence and dedication, as a proponent not

        18       only of this flag but as a proponent of

        19       remembering the victims of September 11th.

        20                  This resolution today is indeed

        21       fitting that it honors Ron James, who is

        22       present here with this body, and I support

        23       this resolution, Mr. President.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    All

        25       those in favor of Resolution 7463 signify by



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         1       saying aye.

         2                  (Response of "Aye.")

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

         4       Opposed, nay.

         5                  Excuse me, the roll call is

         6       withdrawn.

         7                  Senator DeFrancisco.

         8                  SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    I just want

         9       to stand up very briefly and congratulate Ron,

        10       who's really worked so hard on his time, and

        11       for no compensation, for all the causes for

        12       veterans.  He's constantly around Albany

        13       advocating for veterans, and that's -- we need

        14       more people like Ron James.

        15                  So I'm very proud to support this

        16       resolution and give my congratulations to Ron

        17       and ask him to please keep up the great work.

        18                  Thank you.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    All

        20       those in favor of Resolution 7463 signify by

        21       saying aye.

        22                  (Response of "Aye.")

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        24       Opposed, nay.

        25                  (No response.)



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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         2       resolution is adopted.

         3                  This resolution is also open for

         4       cosponsorship, and those that do not wish to

         5       be on this resolution please contact the desk.

         6                  (Applause.)

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         8       Libous.

         9                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

        10       there will be an immediate meeting of the

        11       Rules Committee in Room 332, please.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        13       Immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in

        14       Room 332.  The Senate stands at ease pending

        15       the return of the Rules Committee report.

        16                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        17       ease at 3:44 p.m.)

        18                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        19       at 3:58 p.m.)

        20                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

        21       can we return to reports of standing

        22       committees for the report of the Rules

        23       Committee, please.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Reports

        25       of standing committees.



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         1                  The Secretary will read the Rules

         2       Committee report.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator Skelos,

         4       from the Committee on Rules, reports the

         5       following bills:

         6                  Senate Print 4996B, by Senator

         7       Volker, an act to amend the General

         8       Obligations Law;

         9                  6084A, by Senator Stewart-Cousins,

        10       an act to amend the Town Law;

        11                  6096A, by Senator C. Johnson, an

        12       act to amend the Town Law;

        13                  6647, by Senator Valesky, an act in

        14       relation to permitting;

        15                  7086, by Senator Aubertine, an act

        16       to amend the Public Authorities Law;

        17                  7430, by Senator Farley, an act to

        18       amend the Banking Law;

        19                  7452, by Senator Valesky, an act to

        20       amend the Village Law;

        21                  7631A, by Senator Aubertine, an act

        22       in relation to making certain findings and

        23       determinations;

        24                  8128A, by Senator O. Johnson, an

        25       act to amend the Executive Law and the



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         1       Criminal Procedure Law;

         2                  8506, by Senator Griffo, an act to

         3       amend the Public Service Law;

         4                  8743, by Senator Farley, an act to

         5       amend Chapter 148 of the Laws of 2001;

         6                  8783, by Senator Fuschillo, an act

         7       to adjust certain state aid payments;

         8                  8786, by Senator Bonacic, an act to

         9       amend Chapter 271 of the Laws of 2006;

        10                  And Senate Print 8798, by Senator

        11       Skelos, an act to amend the Tax Law.

        12                  All bills are ordered direct to

        13       third reading.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        15       Libous.

        16                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Move to accept

        17       the Rules report, please.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    All in

        19       favor of accepting the Rules report signify by

        20       saying aye.

        21                  (Response of "Aye.")

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        23       Opposed, nay.

        24                  (No response.)

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The



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         1       report is accepted.

         2                  Senator Libous.

         3                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    May we have the

         4       noncontroversial reading of the calendar,

         5       please.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         7       Secretary will read.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         9       2267, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 8798, an

        10       act to amend the Tax Law.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    This

        12       calendar number is being taken out of order.

        13                  Read the last section.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        15       act shall take effect immediately.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

        17       the roll.

        18                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        20       Schneiderman.

        21                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you.

        22       I appreciate the courtesy, Mr. President.

        23       Because this bill was taken out of order, I

        24       think some of my colleagues may be unaware

        25       that it's coming to the floor at this time.



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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         2       Schneiderman, do you wish me to withdraw the

         3       roll call?  Or are you explaining your vote?

         4                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    I'm

         5       explaining my vote.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Thank

         7       you, Senator.

         8                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

         9       Mr. President.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    You're

        11       welcome.

        12                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Good to

        13       see you up there.

        14                  The reason that I have concerns

        15       about this bill is that we're here in a

        16       situation where our state is facing a fiscal

        17       crisis, we're here in a situation where our

        18       national economy is suffering greatly because

        19       of a philosophy of government that essentially

        20       has been embodied in the Bush administration

        21       but has had its adherents going back to Andrew

        22       Mellon and others in the 1920s, which

        23       basically says get rid of regulations,

        24       concentrate all of the wealth and power in the

        25       hands of a few, and we will flourish.



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         1                  I think that that has been

         2       demonstrated to be false, Mr. President.  I

         3       think our current financial crisis is a result

         4       of that sort of philosophy.  And I find it

         5       difficult to support measures in this bill --

         6       while there may be some things in it that may

         7       be commendable -- that essentially embodies

         8       that philosophy.

         9                  I don't think we need a new

        10       commission to just look at reducing

        11       regulations without having a balance of a

        12       commission to see if there are some

        13       transactions that need to be regulated.  I

        14       mean, we just went through that with the

        15       banking and financial services industry.  And

        16       the push to end regulations is not an

        17       unalloyed positive, and I don't think anyone

        18       in the public or in academia is any longer

        19       fooled by that.

        20                  I also have a concern with us

        21       providing for essentially very narrow tax

        22       loopholes that further complicate our tax

        23       code, reduce provisions to ensure that some

        24       companies who can jump through loopholes don't

        25       have a pay a minimum tax.  This is the kind of



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         1       complex manipulation of the tax system that

         2       has put us in the situation we're in today.

         3                  I think what we need is

         4       broad-based, equitable, progressive tax policy

         5       that treats like transactions alike, that

         6       means that the rich pay their fair share and

         7       that every business, no matter how small, gets

         8       a fair shot.  That's not what's embodied in

         9       the provisions here.

        10                  I think we need to have smart, good

        11       regulations on business to make sure that

        12       everyone is protected from the violence in the

        13       market.  That's part of our job as the

        14       government.  That's not what's embodied in

        15       this bill.

        16                  And finally, the provisions about

        17       the UDC I think are really essentially an

        18       end-run around good public policy in terms of

        19       who should serve there and how long they

        20       should serve.

        21                  So, Mr. President, with all due

        22       respect to this as the last gesture in

        23       one-house session, I am going to vote no.

        24       Happy holidays.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator



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         1       Montgomery.

         2                  SENATOR MONTGOMERY:    Yes,

         3       Mr. President, thank you.

         4                  I'm going to join my colleague

         5       Senator Schneiderman in voting no on this

         6       legislation.  The Governor is coming out with

         7       a budget, his version of the state's budget

         8       for the upcoming year, and I think all of us

         9       are going to be involved in that debate.  We

        10       will be discussing it over the next few

        11       months, and hopefully before the end of the

        12       budget fiscal year we will all be able to come

        13       to some conclusion on what will be in that

        14       budget.

        15                  So I think this is an unnecessary

        16       move, even though perhaps the Senator is

        17       looking for a way to address the budget issues

        18       that we're confronted with.  The fact of the

        19       matter is this is not doing that.  We're not

        20       accomplishing that.  And so Senator Skelos is

        21       way off-base with this proposal.

        22                  And whatever we do, I hope that it

        23       is going to be in the context of looking for

        24       ways of improving the economic state of our

        25       state and looking for revenue, looking for



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         1       ways of having the budget be balanced without

         2       so much pain to citizens and our families and

         3       our middle-income citizens across the state.

         4                  So let's do that together.  And

         5       let's do it with every deliberation that is

         6       possible.  And let's come up with a meaningful

         7       budget in a timely fashion.

         8                  So I'm going to oppose this.  I

         9       think the process is wrong.  And certainly

        10       there are aspects of this proposal that are

        11       very, very harmful to our state's government

        12       and our budget.  So I'm going to vote no.

        13                  Thank you.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        15       Montgomery will be recorded in the negative.

        16                  Senator Krueger, to explain her

        17       vote.

        18                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you,

        19       Mr. President.  I too rise to briefly explain

        20       why I'll be voting no on the bill.

        21                  It's an interesting bill.  It's a

        22       little bit of everything.  I might argue this

        23       isn't really the way to do legislation, where

        24       you combine housing policy and health

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         1       some UDC change.  But that's how it was given

         2       to us.

         3                  And so I feel I must vote no, and

         4       just to highlight a few things that my

         5       colleagues didn't already.

         6                  I have spoken frequently on the

         7       floor about these "freedom" health policies.

         8       One again is included in this complex bill.

         9       Freedom health policies have been proved to be

        10       freedom to go without healthcare, freedom to

        11       not be able to afford healthcare, and freedom

        12       to go bankrupt from health expenses if you get

        13       sick.  So freedom health plans are great for

        14       the healthy, not so good for anyone else.

        15                  So again I urge my colleagues, as I

        16       always do when we try to slide these bills in,

        17       don't fall for that proposal.

        18                  It also has a housing section.  And

        19       on its first read, it just gives the

        20       localities some powers in their own right to

        21       do bonds and notes and tax incremental

        22       financing programs.  Again, housing and TIFs

        23       are -- the devil's in the details.

        24                  In this bill, it appears we'd be

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         1       do their own financing.  We have our own

         2       concerns about needing IDA reform in this

         3       state; I don't think we want to slide around

         4       that.

         5                  It's not specifically for

         6       affordable housing, but in fact market-rate

         7       housing could also be subsidized.  It's also

         8       very unclear what the liability for the

         9       municipal bonds would be.  And of course we

        10       all know loans for housing is a little risky

        11       in today's market, and we should really

        12       understand what we're doing before we actually

        13       walk down that road.

        14                  There's also some real concern in

        15       here in the second section on housing around

        16       the differences in new construction and

        17       rehabilitation.  And under the rehab section

        18       of the housing bill, it looks like it's an

        19       attempt to get around multiple-family-dwelling

        20       laws, particularly in New York City, and

        21       rent-regulation protections.

        22                  So again, lots of questions.  Not

        23       enough answers.  Not what we need to do right

        24       now in facing a $15 billion deficit, waiting

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         1       vote no and urge my colleagues to vote no.

         2                  Thank you, Mr. President.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         4       Krueger will be recorded in the negative.

         5                  Announce the results.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

         7       the negative on Calendar Number 2267 are

         8       Senators Breslin, Diaz, Dilan, Duane,

         9       Gonzalez, Hassell-Thompson, L. Krueger,

        10       C. Kruger, Montgomery, Perkins, Savino,

        11       Schneiderman, Stavisky and Thompson.

        12                  Ayes, 44.  Nays, 14.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        14       bill is passed.

        15                  The Secretary will read.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        17       Calendar Number 2253, Senator Volker moves to

        18       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        19       Assembly Bill Number 6421B and substitute it

        20       for the identical Senate Bill Number 4996B,

        21       Third Reading Calendar 2253.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        23       Substitution ordered.

        24                  The Secretary will read.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number



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         1       2253, by Member of the Assembly Weinstein,

         2       Assembly Print Number 6421B, an act to amend

         3       the General Obligations Law.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read

         5       the last section.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 21.  This

         7       act shall take effect on the first of March

         8       next succeeding.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

        10       the roll.

        11                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        14       bill is passed.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        16       Calendar Number 2254, Senator Stewart-Cousins

        17       moves to discharge, from the Committee on

        18       Rules, Assembly Bill Number 8317A and

        19       substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

        20       Number 6084A, Third Reading Calendar 2254.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        22       Substitution ordered.

        23                  The Secretary will read.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        25       2254, by Member of the Assembly Brodsky,



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         1       Assembly Print Number 8317A, an act to amend

         2       the Town Law.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read

         4       the last section.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         6       act shall take effect immediately.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

         8       the roll.

         9                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        14       Calendar Number 2255, Senator C. Johnson moves

        15       to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        16       Assembly Bill Number 8938A and substitute it

        17       for the identical Senate Bill Number 6096A,

        18       Third Reading Calendar 2255.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        20       Substitution ordered.

        21                  The Secretary will read.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        23       2255, by Member of the Assembly Schimel,

        24       Assembly Print Number 8938A, an act in

        25       relation to permitting.



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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    There

         2       is a home-rule message at the desk.

         3                  Read the last section.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

         7       the roll.

         8                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        11       bill is passed.

        12                  May we have some order, please.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        14       Calendar Number 2256, Senator Valesky moves to

        15       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        16       Assembly Bill Number 9560 and substitute it

        17       for the identical Senate Bill Number 6647,

        18       Third Reading Calendar 2256.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        20       Substitution ordered.

        21                  The Secretary will read.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        23       2256, by Member of the Assembly Magee,

        24       Assembly Print Number 9560, an act in relation

        25       to permitting.



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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    There

         2       is a home-rule message at the desk.

         3                  Read the last section.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

         7       the roll.

         8                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        11       bill is passed.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        13       Calendar Number 2257, Senator Aubertine moves

        14       to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        15       Assembly Bill Number 9436 and substitute it

        16       for the identical Senate Bill Number 7086,

        17       Third Reading Calendar 2257.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        19       Substitution ordered.

        20                  The Secretary will read.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        22       2257, by Member of the Assembly Barclay,

        23       Assembly Print Number 9436, an act to amend

        24       the Public Authorities Law.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read



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         1       the last section.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         3       act shall take effect immediately.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

         5       the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         9       bill is passed.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        11       Calendar Number 2258, Senator Farley moves to

        12       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        13       Assembly Bill Number 11030 and substitute it

        14       for the identical Senate Bill Number 7430,

        15       Third Reading Calendar 2258.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        17       Substitution ordered.

        18                  The Secretary will read.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        20       2258, by Member of the Assembly Peralta,

        21       Assembly Print Number 11030, an act to amend

        22       the Banking Law.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read

        24       the last section.

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This



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         1       act shall take effect immediately.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

         3       the roll.

         4                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         7       bill is passed.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

         9       Calendar Number 2259, Senator Valesky moves to

        10       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        11       Assembly Bill Number 10417, and substitute it

        12       for the identical Senate Bill Number 7452,

        13       Calendar Number 2259.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        15       Substitution ordered.

        16                  The Secretary will read.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        18       2259, by Member of the Assembly Magee,

        19       Assembly Print Number 10417, an act to amend

        20       the Village Law.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read

        22       the last section.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        24       act shall take effect immediately.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call



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         1       the roll.

         2                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         5       bill is passed.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

         7       Calendar Number 2260, Senator Aubertine moves

         8       to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

         9       Assembly Bill Number 8216B and substitute it

        10       for the identical Senate Bill Number 7631A,

        11       Third Reading Calendar 2260.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        13       Substitution ordered.

        14                  The Secretary will read.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        16       2260, by Member of the Assembly Townsend,

        17       Assembly Print Number 8216B, an act in

        18       relation to making certain findings and

        19       determinations.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    There

        21       is a home-rule message at the desk.

        22                  Read the last section.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        24       act shall take effect immediately.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call



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         1       the roll.

         2                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         5       bill is passed.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

         7       Calendar Number 2261, Senator O. Johnson moves

         8       to discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

         9       Assembly Bill Number 11721 and substitute it

        10       for the identical Senate Bill Number 8128A,

        11       Third Reading Calendar 2261.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        13       Substitution ordered.

        14                  The Secretary will read.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        16       2261, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,

        17       Assembly Print Number 11721, an act to amend

        18       the Executive Law and the Criminal Procedure

        19       Law.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        21       Krueger, to explain her vote.

        22                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you

        23       so much, Mr. President.

        24                  So this bill is actually being

        25       supported by the Division of Probation and



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         1       Correctional Alternatives but is opposed by

         2       the Office of Court Administration, so it

         3       leaves me in a dilemma that the courts are

         4       saying this is putting too strict a set of

         5       requirements on us -- even though I understand

         6       why the Department of Probation and

         7       Corrections would want more restrictions on

         8       delinquency of a probationer.

         9                  I'm concerned that we don't have

        10       enough information about what the financial

        11       costs would be if we are in fact increasing

        12       the number of prisoners that might be going

        13       back into prison.  I'm concerned that we have

        14       two state agencies in opposition.

        15                  And so it's a one-house bill, so I

        16       know we have some time to deal with this,

        17       perhaps next session.  But I'm going to vote

        18       no because I think when you've got two key

        19       agencies in disagreement about where you're

        20       going on a one-house bill -- you're saying

        21       it's a two-house bill, Mr. President.  My memo

        22       says it's a one-house bill.

        23                  Even more reason for me -- thank

        24       you so much for clarifying, Mr. President --

        25       more reason for me to decide to vote no for



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         1       now, because I'm concerned that we are sending

         2       and getting mixed messages from our agencies.

         3                  Thank you, Mr. President.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read

         5       the last section.

         6                  Excuse me, Senator Schneiderman,

         7       may I have the last section read?  I neglected

         8       to do that before Senator Krueger.  And then

         9       I'll be glad to recognize you to explain your

        10       vote.

        11                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Certainly.

        12       Thank you, Mr. President.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read

        14       the last section.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 7.  This

        16       act shall take effect on the first of

        17       November.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

        19       the roll.

        20                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        22       Schneiderman, to explain his vote.

        23                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you.

        24                  I also rise to call my colleagues'

        25       attention to the fact that this is a bill



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         1       that -- I must say I'm not clear as to whether

         2       or not it is a one-house bill, because I'm not

         3       aware of an Assembly sponsor.  This is

         4       something that --

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         6       Schneiderman, for your information, we

         7       substituted it, and so the Assembly bill is

         8       before the house.

         9                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Oh, okay,

        10       thank you, Mr. President.  I appreciate your

        11       clarification.

        12                  Then I agree with Senator Krueger,

        13       I think that makes it all the more necessary

        14       for us to go cautiously here.

        15                  This is something that restricts

        16       the rights of probationers.  And quite

        17       honestly, I understand very well why the

        18       Office of Court Administration is opposed to

        19       this.  I think that we should really be very

        20       reluctant in the current atmosphere and the

        21       current environment, particularly

        22       economically, to impose any more requirements

        23       that could increase the costs of our probation

        24       system.

        25                  And I think OCA's objections are



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         1       right on point.  We have 9800 people in prison

         2       in New York State who are there only for

         3       technical violations of parole or probation.

         4       This is something that I promise you we will

         5       address in next year's legislative session,

         6       but this is something that we shouldn't be

         7       compounding now.

         8                  I would urge all my colleagues to

         9       vote no on this bill.  I think we should try

        10       and work with OCA to develop a better

        11       procedure that saves the state money and

        12       improves public safety.  I vote no,

        13       Mr. President.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        15       Announce the results.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Those recorded in

        17       the negative on Calendar Number 2261 are

        18       Senators Adams, Dilan, Gonzalez,

        19       Hassell-Thompson, L. Krueger, Montgomery,

        20       Parker, Perkins, Schneiderman.  Also Senator

        21       Diaz.  Also Senator Sampson.

        22                  Ayes, 47.  Nays, 11.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        24       Assemblyman Aubry's bill is passed.

        25                  The Secretary will read.



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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         2       2262, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 8506, an

         3       act to amend the Public Service Law.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read

         5       the last section.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

         7       act shall take effect immediately.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

         9       the roll.

        10                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        13       bill is passed.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        15       2263, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 8743, an

        16       act to amend Chapter 148 of the Laws of 2001,

        17       relating to authorizing.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    There

        19       is a home-rule message at the desk.

        20                  Read the last section.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        22       act shall take effect immediately.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

        24       the roll.

        25                  (The Secretary called the roll.)



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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         3       bill is passed.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         5       2264, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 8783,

         6       an act to adjust certain state aid payments.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read

         8       the last section.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        10       act shall take effect immediately.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

        12       the roll.

        13                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        16       bill is passed.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        18       Calendar Number 2265, Senator Bonacic moves to

        19       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

        20       Assembly Bill Number 11168 and substitute it

        21       for the identical Senate Bill Number 8786,

        22       Third Reading Calendar 2265.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        24       Substitution ordered.

        25                  The Secretary will read.



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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         2       2265, by Member of the Assembly Cahill,

         3       Assembly Print Number 11168, an act to amend

         4       Chapter 271 of the Laws of 2006 amending the

         5       Environmental Conservation Law.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read

         7       the last section.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         9       act shall take effect immediately.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

        11       the roll.

        12                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        15       bill is passed.

        16                  Senator Libous, that completes the

        17       reading of the noncontroversial calendar.

        18                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

        19       at this time I'd like to call a Finance

        20       Committee meeting in Room 332, please.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    There

        22       will be an immediate meeting of the Finance

        23       Committee in Room 332.

        24                  The Senate stands at ease pending

        25       the return of the Finance Committee report.



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         1                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

         2       ease at 4:22 p.m.)

         3                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

         4       at 5:50 p.m.)

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         6       house will come to order.

         7                  Senator Libous.

         8                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

         9       if we could return to reports of standing

        10       committees.

        11                  And I believe the Finance Committee

        12       has met, and could you have the Secretary read

        13       the report, please.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Reports

        15       of standing committees.

        16                  The Secretary will read the Finance

        17       Committee report.

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator

        19       O. Johnson, from the Committee on Finance,

        20       reports the following nominations.

        21                  As president and CEO of the Urban

        22       Development Corporation and commissioner of

        23       the Department of Economic Development, Marisa

        24       Lago, of New York City.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator



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         1       Libous.

         2                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Move the

         3       nomination.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         5       Johnson.

         6                  SENATOR O. JOHNSON:    Move the

         7       nomination.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Thank

         9       you, Senator Johnson.

        10                  Senator Schneiderman.

        11                  SENATOR SCHNEIDERMAN:    Thank you,

        12       Mr. President.

        13                  I rise to strongly support the

        14       nomination of Marisa Lago to joint

        15       appointments.  The principal duty that she is

        16       assuming is I think the most important job

        17       that exists now in New York State, which is

        18       coordinating our economic development

        19       strategies to revive our economy, to pull us

        20       out of this unbelievable slump that we're in.

        21                  Things have been bad in quite a few

        22       parts of the state, including Central and

        23       Western New York, for many, many years.  I

        24       think it's fair to say, by any objective

        25       analysis, our economic development policy has



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         1       largely been a failure.  There have been some

         2       programs that have worked well, but a lot of

         3       it just hasn't worked at all.

         4                  Marisa is someone I have known

         5       for -- and I cringe when I say this -- almost

         6       30 years.  We attended law school together.

         7       And I will tell you, I've followed her career

         8       since then.  There is no one better prepared

         9       to undertake this project, to undertake this

        10       trust that we're really placing in her than

        11       Marisa Lago.

        12                  She has experience in every aspect

        13       of the public sector -- New York City economic

        14       development corporation, was the leading

        15       economic development officer in the City of

        16       Boston, worked in the Securities and Exchange

        17       Commission, understands the federal

        18       government, has worked in the private sector

        19       at law firms and banking, understands

        20       everything you need to understand to try and

        21       turn our state around.

        22                  And I will tell you this.  I have

        23       tepid support for some nominees and strong

        24       support for some nominees, but I very rarely

        25       have the depth of feeling and the sort of



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         1       overwhelming support that I feel for Marisa

         2       Lago.  She is a great nominee, will make a

         3       great commissioner.

         4                  And I promise all of you, whatever

         5       your concerns, wherever you come from or

         6       whatever your ideological beliefs are, she

         7       will give you a fair hearing, she will make

         8       the decisions and call them as she sees them.

         9                  This is a great addition to our

        10       team, and I look forward to working with her

        11       for many years to come.  Thank you, Senator

        12       Johnson, for moving this fine nominee.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        14       question is on the nomination of Marisa Lago

        15       as president and CEO of the Urban Development

        16       Corporation and commissioner of the Department

        17       of Economic Development.  All those in favor

        18       of the nomination signify by saying aye.

        19                  (Response of "Aye.")

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        21       Opposed, nay.

        22                  (No response.)

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        24       nominee is confirmed.

        25                  Marisa Lago is joined by her



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         1       husband, Ronald Finiw.

         2                  And we welcome her to the chamber

         3       and congratulate her on her appointment and

         4       look for great things to be coming from that

         5       office.

         6                  Thank you very much, and

         7       congratulations.

         8                  (Applause.)

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        10       Secretary will read.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

        12       the Public Service Commission, James L.

        13       Larocca, of Sag Harbor.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        15       Johnson.

        16                  SENATOR O. JOHNSON:    Move the

        17       nomination.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        19       Maziarz.

        20                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Thank you.

        21       Thank you very much, Mr. President.

        22                  Earlier this morning the Senate

        23       Committee on Energy and Telecommunication met,

        24       we examined the qualifications of Mr. Larocca

        25       and found him to be eminently qualified for



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         1       this position.

         2                  As we all know, clearly, in our

         3       economic crisis that we're in, you know,

         4       energy is perhaps the answer for providing and

         5       creating many jobs in New York State.  And

         6       Mr. Larocca clearly has a great background in

         7       that area.

         8                  So we certainly offer our

         9       congratulations to him and wish him well and

        10       look forward to working with him.

        11                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        13       LaValle.

        14                  SENATOR LaVALLE:    Thank you,

        15       Mr. President.  I rise to second the

        16       nomination.

        17                  The Governor should be

        18       congratulated on this nomination because Jim

        19       Larocca has enormous experience, not only in

        20       the energy area but in government.  And I

        21       think one of the jobs with PSC commissioners

        22       is being able to make the proper inquiries

        23       with staff, ask the right questions, so that

        24       the ratepayers are getting the proper

        25       decision.



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         1                  So, Jim, congratulations on your

         2       appointment.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         4       Larkin.

         5                  SENATOR LARKIN:    Thank you,

         6       Mr. President.

         7                  I've had the privilege of knowing

         8       Jim since the Carey days.  I guess the most

         9       important thing I remember about him, and I

        10       mentioned this just in the Finance Committee

        11       meeting, was when you had an issue or you had

        12       a problem and you went to him, you didn't get

        13       a call back from a staff member, you got a

        14       call back from the commissioner.

        15                  Because he always felt and told me

        16       and others that "If it was important enough

        17       for you to call me, it was important enough

        18       for me to call you."  And my first phone call,

        19       I said, "Yeah, I bet it's the commissioner."

        20       And he said, "You lost the bet, Lark."

        21                  Jim, congratulations.  And thank

        22       you very much for in your dedicated service

        23       over the years.  And also thank you for your

        24       combat service in Vietnam.  You are a

        25       distinguished American.



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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         2       question is on the nomination of James L.

         3       Larocca as a member of the Public Service

         4       Commission.  All those in favor signify by

         5       saying aye.

         6                  (Response of "Aye.")

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

         8       Opposed, nay.

         9                  (No response.)

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    James

        11       L. Larocca is hereby confirmed as a member of

        12       the Public Service Commission.

        13                  Congratulations.

        14                  (Applause.)

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        16       Secretary will read.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    As commissioner

        18       of the State Civil Service Commission, Joseph

        19       Dennis Hanrahan, of Latham.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        21       Johnson.

        22                  SENATOR OWEN JOHNSON:    Move the

        23       nomination.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        25       question is on the nomination of Joseph Dennis



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         1       Hanrahan, of Latham, as a commissioner of the

         2       State Civil Service Commission.  All those in

         3       favor signify by saying aye.

         4                  (Response of "Aye.")

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

         6       Opposed, nay.

         7                  (No response.)

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Joseph

         9       Dennis Hanrahan is hereby confirmed as a

        10       commissioner of the State Civil Service

        11       Commission.

        12                  Our congratulations and best wishes

        13       to you.

        14                  (Applause.)

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        16       Secretary will read.

        17                  THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

        18       the State Commission of Correction, Phyllis

        19       Harrison-Ross, M.D., of New York City.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        21       Johnson.

        22                  SENATOR O. JOHNSON:    Move the

        23       nomination.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        25       Adams.



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         1                  SENATOR ADAMS:    Thank you.  Thank

         2       you.  Thank you, Mr. President.

         3                  I just want to rise in support of

         4       the nomination for Dr. Ross.  I believe that

         5       she's going to bring a level of expertise and

         6       an innovative outlook on how we should deal

         7       with mental illness as another aspect of our

         8       correctional facility.

         9                  Her resume -- I'm sure all of my

        10       colleagues have read it -- is extremely

        11       impressive, and I think she's a great asset to

        12       our team here in the state.  I'm looking

        13       forward to working closely with her.  Thank

        14       you for the opportunity on her behalf.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        16       Perkins.

        17                  SENATOR PERKINS:    Yes, I'd also

        18       like to join my colleague in representing my

        19       support for Dr. Ross, who I've had the

        20       privilege of knowing and working with over the

        21       years and have great, great, high expectations

        22       of the wonderful things that she'll be able to

        23       do in this new position.

        24                  And I'm glad that it has finally

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         1       to commend the Governor for his

         2       recommendation.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         4       Hassell-Thompson.

         5                  SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:    Thank

         6       you, Mr. President.

         7                  I too rise to add my voice to the

         8       nomination of Dr. Harrison-Ross.  In our

         9       opportunity this morning when she came before

        10       the committee, we talked extensively about

        11       some of the reforms and the kinds of things

        12       that she would like to see happen.

        13                  And certainly, as one who has

        14       expressed in this chamber and other places the

        15       concerns for the health issues that regard

        16       inmates and how those translate to our broader

        17       community when they return home I think make a

        18       significant difference to us, particularly as

        19       we talk about HIV and AIDS and some of the

        20       other concerns that she has, in her 33 years

        21       as a member, has addressed and now, as the

        22       chair, will have an opportunity to really put

        23       some things in motion.

        24                  So I congratulate the Governor on

        25       his choice and certainly to her for the energy



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         1       and spirit that she brings to this post.

         2                  Thank you, Mr. President.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         4       question is on the nomination of Phyllis

         5       Harrison-Ross as a member of the New York

         6       State Commission of Correction.  All in favor

         7       signify by saying aye.

         8                  (Response of "Aye.")

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        10       Opposed, nay.

        11                  (No response.)

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Phyllis

        13       Harrison-Ross is hereby confirmed as a member

        14       of the New York State Commission of

        15       Corrections.

        16                  She is joined here today by her

        17       godson, Dr. Michael Pratts.

        18                  Congratulations.

        19                  (Applause.)

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        21       Secretary will read.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    As a member of

        23       the SUNY Board of Trustees, Pedro A. Noguera,

        24       of New York City.

        25                  As a member and chairman of the



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         1       New York State Foundation for Science,

         2       Technology and Innovation, Robert B. Catell,

         3       of Garden City.

         4                  As director of the State of

         5       New York Mortgage Agency, William Myers, of

         6       Ithaca.

         7                  As a member of the Battery Park

         8       City Authority, Frank J. Branchini, of

         9       New York City.

        10                  As members of the Dormitory

        11       Authority, Jacques Jiha, of Woodbury, and

        12       Anthony B. Martino, of Buffalo.

        13                  As members of the New York State

        14       Energy Research and Development Authority,

        15       Kevin Burke, of New York City, and Roger B.

        16       Kelley, of East Amherst.

        17                  As a member of the New York State

        18       Olympic Regional Development Authority, Robert

        19       Francis Flacke, of Lake George.

        20                  As a nonvoting member of the

        21       Capital District Transportation Authority,

        22       Michael Stammel, of Rensselaer.

        23                  As members of the Niagara Frontier

        24       Transportation Authority, Peter G. Demakos, of

        25       Buffalo, and Michael P. Hughes, of West



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         1       Seneca.

         2                  As commissioner of the Port

         3       Authority of New York and New Jersey, Stanley

         4       E. Grayson, of New York.

         5                  As a member of the

         6       Rochester-Genesee Regional Transportation

         7       Authority, Henry Smith, Jr., of Albion.

         8                  As a member of the Advisory Board

         9       on Public Work, William F. Shannon, Jr., of

        10       Oswego.

        11                  As a member of the Administrative

        12       Review Board for Professional Medical Conduct,

        13       Richard D. Milone, M.D., of Rye.

        14                  As a member of the Public

        15       Employment Relations Board, Sheila Cole, of

        16       Delmar.

        17                  As a banking member of the State

        18       Banking Board, Thomas S. Buerkle, of

        19       Larchmont.

        20                  As a member and chairman of the

        21       Freshwater Wetlands Appeals Board, Lemuel

        22       Srolovic, of Brooklyn.

        23                  As a member of the State Board of

        24       Real Property Services, Cathy Bell, of Mount

        25       Vernon.



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         1                  As a member of the Long Island

         2       State Park, Recreation and Historic

         3       Preservation Commission, Bryan Erwin, of

         4       Mattituck.

         5                  As a member of the Stewart Airport

         6       Commission, F. Edward Devitt, of Montgomery.

         7                  As a member of the Veterans Affairs

         8       Commission, John Batiste, of Rochester.

         9                  As members of the New York

        10       Convention Center Operating Corporation,

        11       Stephen L. Drummond, of Queens Village, and

        12       Gary Lavine, of Fayetteville.

        13                  As director of the Urban

        14       Development Corporation, Stanford Lipsey, of

        15       Buffalo.

        16                  As a member of the Continuing Care

        17       Retirement Community Council, Clari Gilbert,

        18       of Brooklyn.

        19                  As members of the Mental Health

        20       Services Council, Kunsook Song Bernstein,

        21       Ph.D., of Baldwin; Luis R. Marcos, M.D., of

        22       New York City, and Katherine L. Moshier, of

        23       Albany.

        24                  As a member of the State Council on

        25       the Arts, Daniel D. Simmons, of Brooklyn.



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         1                  As members of the State Hospital

         2       Review and Planning Council, Christopher C.

         3       Booth, of Pittsford; Renee Garrick, M.D., of

         4       Bedford; Jeffrey A. Kraut, of East Meadow; and

         5       Malcolm D. Reid, of Briarcliff Manor.

         6                  As a member of the Board of

         7       Visitors at the New York State Home for

         8       Veterans and Their Dependents at Batavia, Mary

         9       Ann O'Coin, of Rochester.

        10                  As a member of the Board of

        11       Visitors of the Creedmoor Psychiatric Center,

        12       Judy Grubin, of Jackson Heights.

        13                  As a member of the Board of

        14       Visitors of the Agricultural and Industrial

        15       School at Industry, Paul C. Brule, of Webster.

        16                  As a member of the Board of

        17       Visitors of the New York Developmental

        18       Disabilities Services Office, Mildred

        19       Holley-Davis, of the Bronx.

        20                  As members of the Board of Visitors

        21       of the Rochester Psychiatric Center, Marcia J.

        22       Boyd, of Rochester; George Follett, of Albion;

        23       and John C. Owens, of Henrietta.

        24                  As a member of the Board of

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         1       James Scaringe, of Orangeburg.

         2                  And as a member of the Board of

         3       Visitors of the Western Developmental

         4       Disabilities Services Office, Ann L. Scherff,

         5       of LeRoy.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         7       Johnson.

         8                  SENATOR OWEN JOHNSON:    Move the

         9       nominations.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        11       Stavisky.

        12                  SENATOR STAVISKY:    Mr. President,

        13       I think the record should reflect the fact

        14       that Dr. Pedro Noguera was here, he came

        15       before the Committee on Higher Education and

        16       the Finance Committee, and he brings, as a

        17       trustee of the State University of New York, a

        18       wealth of background, a very impressive

        19       resume, and great potential to serve on this

        20       important body.

        21                  Thank you.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Thank

        23       you, Senator Stavisky.

        24                  The question is on the nominations

        25       as presented.  All those in favor signify by



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         1       saying aye.

         2                  (Response of "Aye.")

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

         4       Opposed, nay.

         5                  (No response.)

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         7       nominations and the nominees are confirmed.

         8                  Senator Libous.

         9                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

        10       could I call an immediate meeting of the Rules

        11       Committee in Room 332, please.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    There

        13       will be an immediate meeting of the Rules

        14       Committee in Room 332.

        15                  The Senate stands at ease pending

        16       the return of the Rules Committee.

        17                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        18       ease at 6:07 p.m.)

        19                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        20       at 6:28 p.m.)

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        22       house will come to order.

        23                  Senator Libous.

        24                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Can we return to

        25       reports of standing committees, please.



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         1                  There's a report of the Rules

         2       Committee at the desk.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Reports

         4       of standing committees.

         5                  The Secretary will read the Rules

         6       Committee report.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator Skelos,

         8       from the Committee on Rules, reports the

         9       following bill direct to third reading:

        10                  Restored, Senate Print 7497B, by

        11       Senator LaValle, an act to amend the Education

        12       Law.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        14       Libous.

        15                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Move to accept

        16       the report of the Rules Committee, please.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    All in

        18       favor of accepting the report of the Rules

        19       Committee signify by saying aye.

        20                  (Response of "Aye.")

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        22       Opposed, nay.

        23                  (No response.)

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        25       report is accepted.



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         1                  Senator Libous.

         2                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Can we please

         3       take the bill up, noncontroversial.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         5       Secretary will read.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

         7       Calendar Number 1529, Senator LaValle moves to

         8       discharge, from the Committee on Rules,

         9       Assembly Bill Number 11696A and substitute it

        10       for the identical Senate Bill Number 7497B,

        11       Third Reading Calendar 1529.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        13       Substitution ordered.

        14                  The Secretary will read.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        16       1529, by the Assembly Committee on Rules,

        17       Assembly Print Number 11696A, an act to amend

        18       the Education Law.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Read

        20       the last section.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 11.  This

        22       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Call

        24       the roll.

        25                  (The Secretary called the roll.)



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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         2       LaValle.

         3                  SENATOR LaVALLE:    Thank you,

         4       Mr. President.  To explain my vote.

         5                  This accountancy bill that we have

         6       before us, the present law was enacted in

         7       1947, and we have basically had the same law.

         8                  What brought this about was the

         9       Enron situation.  And our committee, myself

        10       and Senator Stavisky, held a series of

        11       hearings in New York City and throughout the

        12       state to talk about how we would deal with

        13       some of the problems that confronted the

        14       accountancy profession.

        15                  The profession was under a cloud

        16       that they were cooking the books, that in

        17       their auditing function that they kind of

        18       glossed over and were really representing the

        19       person that hired them but the bigger prize

        20       was other kinds of contract work that that

        21       accountant or firm would be doing.

        22                  Here, under this legislation, we

        23       clearly have a review of the auditing

        24       functions so that those functions would be

        25       done in a straightforward way and that the



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         1       accountant has, to his or her license, the

         2       greatest focus and commitment.

         3                  The New York State Society of CPAs

         4       and many of the people here asked, you know,

         5       "How do your accountants feel?"  Well, they

         6       have been working with our committee, and we

         7       have passed a version of this I think three

         8       different times.

         9                  So this is a bill that will protect

        10       the public, that will protect the profession

        11       and will ensure that, as accountancy grows and

        12       creates other niches, that there will be a

        13       review and that people will be putting forth

        14       the most professional job that they can

        15       because their license is one that will be

        16       under scrutiny.

        17                  I vote in the affirmative,

        18       Mr. President.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        20       Stavisky, to explain her vote.

        21                  SENATOR STAVISKY:    Thank you,

        22       Mr. President.

        23                  As Senator LaValle indicated,

        24       hearings were held on this legislation.  And

        25       sometimes legislation can pass very quickly,



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         1       other times it takes a little longer.  But I

         2       must commend Senator LaValle for all of the

         3       work that he and his staff did on this bill,

         4       meeting with the various stakeholders.

         5                  Scope-of-practice bills are some of

         6       the most contentious because when you take

         7       power from one group and give it to another,

         8       it's like pressing a balloon, and it sort of

         9       bulges in another spot.

        10                  The practice of accountancy is an

        11       important one, but the beneficiaries are going

        12       to be the consumers, the people who read the

        13       reports, the people who use both professional

        14       accountants and CPAs.

        15                  The state society has been in touch

        16       with me; I know they worked very closely with

        17       Senator LaValle.  And this is an important

        18       consumer-protection bill.  It protects the

        19       consumer by providing transparency.

        20                  And I'm delighted to support this

        21       measure, and hopefully the Governor will sign

        22       it and in six months it will become law.

        23                  Thank you, Mr. President.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        25       Announce the results.



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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

         2       0.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

         4       bill is passed.

         5                  Senator Libous.

         6                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

         7       there will be an immediate meeting of the

         8       Finance Committee in Room 332, please.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        10       Immediate meeting of Finance in Room 332.

        11                  The Senate stands at ease until the

        12       return of the Senate Finance Committee.

        13                  (Whereupon, the Senate stood at

        14       ease at 6:35 p.m.)

        15                  (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened

        16       at 6:42 p.m.)

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        18       Libous.

        19                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

        20       can we go back to reports of standing

        21       committees.

        22                  I believe there's a report from

        23       Finance Committee at the desk.  Could it be

        24       read, please.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Reports



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         1       of standing committees.

         2                  The Secretary will read the Finance

         3       Committee report.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator Johnson,

         5       from the Committee on Finance, reports the

         6       following nominations.

         7                  As members of the Capital District

         8       Transportation Authority, Denise A. Figueroa,

         9       of Cohoes, and Joseph M. Spairana, Jr., of

        10       Wynantskill.

        11                  As a member of the State Board of

        12       Historic Preservation, Joanne B. Arany, of

        13       Rochester.

        14                  As a member of the Stewart Airport

        15       Commission, Thomas Schaaff, of Middletown.

        16                  As director of the New York

        17       Convention Center Operating Corporation, E.

        18       Scott Gilbert, of New York City.

        19                  As a member of the Board of

        20       Visitors of the Central New York Developmental

        21       Disabilities Services Office, Mary E.

        22       Patricia, of Oneida.

        23                  And as a member of the Board of

        24       Visitors of the Staten Island Developmental

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         1       Staten Island.

         2                  Senator Libous.

         3                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Would you move

         4       the nominations.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    All

         6       those in favor of the nominations in the

         7       report of the Finance Committee signify by

         8       saying aye.

         9                  (Response of "Aye.")

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:

        11       Opposed, nay.

        12                  (No response.)

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    The

        14       nominations and the nominees are confirmed.

        15                  Senator Smith.

        16                  SENATOR SMITH:    Thank you very

        17       much, Mr. President.

        18                  I rise to speak about a couple of

        19       my colleagues, one of which I want to offer

        20       some brief remarks.  And obviously, my members

        21       and colleagues, I have the right to do so as

        22       well.

        23                  This year we are going to miss one

        24       of this body's most esteemed colleagues, one

        25       who has distinguished himself as a lawyer



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         1       second to none, who clearly has a reputation

         2       in front of many judges to be one of the

         3       brightest legal minds when it comes to

         4       election law.

         5                  He served as the Senate Minority

         6       Leader in this house, distinguished himself in

         7       that capacity as well.  He has been here now

         8       for 30 years, serving the 25th District in the

         9       City of New York, a person who has been

        10       extremely, extremely forceful when it comes to

        11       certain legislation.  He created the Senate's

        12       Puerto Rican and Hispanic Task Force when he

        13       was the Minority Leader.

        14                  He also served as Minority Leader

        15       for eight years, and during the time he was in

        16       that capacity, I had pleasure of being

        17       introduced to this body by him.  He broke me

        18       into the Senate, he taught me much of what I

        19       have learned today about the rules of the

        20       Senate as well as what it means to be a member

        21       and how one conducts himself in such an august

        22       body as this.

        23                  Senator Marty Connor was always a

        24       person and will always be a person that I

        25       consider to be a friend.



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         1                  There are some elected officials

         2       that are described by their colleagues and by

         3       their friends by how smart they are or what

         4       pieces of the legislation they accomplished or

         5       what programs they established.  And while all

         6       of those things are tremendous in terms of

         7       what Senator Connor has accomplished, one

         8       thing that I think stands out for many of us

         9       is his heart.

        10                  You never had to question or

        11       second-guess Senator Connor as to what his

        12       motivations were.  When he brought forth a

        13       piece of legislation or an idea, you knew it

        14       was something that he meant from his heart, it

        15       was for the greater good, and it was also one

        16       that many of us could be proud to be a part of

        17       and partner with him in doing so.

        18                  This is a day that we will remember

        19       as a loss.  And while I do accept the new

        20       member that will be in this chamber, for me

        21       personally, and for many of us, having Marty

        22       Connor leave this chamber is one that brings

        23       some sadness to us as well.

        24                  But I say to Marty Connor, that

        25       chair will always be yours.  And that in this



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         1       house, if any of these stones which have been

         2       here for years represent longevity, a portion

         3       of these stones belong to you, Marty Connor.

         4       And it will always represent it to me and

         5       represent to, I'm sure, many members that are

         6       here what you have meant to this institution,

         7       what you will continue to mean to this

         8       institution.

         9                  As long as this institution is

        10       authorized with the authority to do the

        11       people's business, we will forever remember

        12       all that you have done on behalf of the people

        13       of this state.  Nineteen million will never

        14       forget the contributions you made to this

        15       state.

        16                  And it is my hope that come the

        17       first of January, or the first session in

        18       January, that we will have a fitting statement

        19       as well as a dedication to all that you have

        20       done for this august body.

        21                  Thank you very much, Mr. President.

        22                  (Standing ovation.)

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Let the

        24       record reflect the standing ovation in support

        25       of Senator Smith's remarks.



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         1                  Senator Connor.

         2                  SENATOR CONNOR:    Thank you,

         3       Mr. President.  If I can have the privilege of

         4       the floor for a few minutes -- and I'll try

         5       and speak not so long that people are throwing

         6       shoes at me.

         7                  (Laughter.)

         8                  SENATOR CONNOR:    But, you know, I

         9       do want to say this is the 231st session of

        10       this body, and I have been privileged to serve

        11       for the last 31 of those sessions.  It is

        12       7.5 percent of the existence of this body

        13       since our New York republic was founded.

        14                  I first -- I can remember the day I

        15       took my seat, sat right where Diane Savino

        16       sits now, just being so awed, thinking how did

        17       I get here.  This was my childhood dream.  My

        18       father worked in a factory, I worked in

        19       factories next to get through college and law

        20       school.  My wonderful alma mater, Catholic

        21       University, gave me full-tuition scholarships

        22       for the whole seven years.  And that's sort of

        23       how I got here.

        24                  But I didn't do it alone.  First of

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         1       politics is a meritocracy.  It usually works

         2       that way.  And there is merit in winners and

         3       leaders in elections.  Those who compete merit

         4       that.

         5                  And I remember -- I told this story

         6       to a few who were with me primary night -- I

         7       was running in a special election.  There was

         8       a blizzard two weeks before Election Day; it

         9       shut down New York City.  And a young woman

        10       wandered into my campaign headquarters

        11       because, you know, she didn't have to go to

        12       work that day because things were shut for a

        13       couple of days and said, "What's going on

        14       here?  Anybody need any help?  Can I

        15       volunteer?"  And my campaign manager said,

        16       "Yeah, we're doing a mailing tonight."

        17                  And this young woman came back that

        18       night -- because that's when you did a

        19       mailing.  No mailhouses.  You know, you put

        20       the labels on the envelopes and the stamps on.

        21       And as we were breaking up at about 1:00 in

        22       the morning, my campaign manager said, "Oh,

        23       we're doing the subway stop at the St. George

        24       tomorrow."  And somebody said to her, "Well,

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         1       do it with him."

         2                  This young lady said, "Well, what's

         3       a subway stop?"  It was like, you know, me,

         4       him at 7:30 in the morning, and you give out

         5       literature.  And she did.  And on primary

         6       morning she did that same subway stop with me,

         7       because she's been at my side ever since.

         8                  And I'm talking about my wife,

         9       Christine, without whom I could not have

        10       served here for 31 years or really done half

        11       of what I've done without her support.

        12                  You know, last week of session,

        13       we're in session nights, a zillion bills come

        14       up.  I have two wonderful sons, two years

        15       apart.  They were each born, in the respective

        16       years, next-to-last night of session.  Boy, I

        17       missed a lot of votes rushing back there.

        18                  And I remember then coming back --

        19       and this is going to sound so politically

        20       incorrect now -- passing out cigars.  It's

        21       what you did then when you became a dad.  And

        22       yes, in those days people lit them up and

        23       smoked them here, too.  That's what these

        24       things are.

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         1                  SENATOR CONNOR:    So, you know, my

         2       entire family has been involved and

         3       supportive.  My wonderful sons, Marty and

         4       Brian, have supported me all these years.

         5                  And they have given up so much

         6       because I don't need to tell all of you how

         7       much time -- the public really doesn't get it.

         8       They wouldn't want to know our real hourly

         9       wage if they take into account the evenings,

        10       weekends, and everything that you have to do

        11       to do this job well and serve your

        12       constituents.

        13                  You know, in all those years -- I

        14       did a rough estimate the other day.  I believe

        15       I have voted more than 60,000 times.  You

        16       know, you vote a couple of thousand times a

        17       session.  I'm sure I've spoken on this floor,

        18       Lord knows, a couple of thousand times.

        19                  I've served with -- I tried to do a

        20       rough calculation.  How do you remember

        21       everybody who's been in and out?  But I think

        22       I've served with over 160 wonderful men and

        23       women who were elected to serve here at

        24       various times in those 31 years.  Dedicated,

        25       committed, wonderful, wonderful people.  Some



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         1       giant intellects, some wonderful,

         2       compassionate people.

         3                  A couple of rogues, a couple of

         4       fakers.  But, you know, that's no different --

         5       that's no different than life out there.  And

         6       in fact, I think we reach a higher standard

         7       than what you see in the marketplace, so to

         8       speak, out there in terms of people's

         9       integrity, commitment, and hard work.

        10                  And it is hard work.  I've had good

        11       days here and bad days here.  Sad days.  I

        12       tried to count, at least 15 days that I can

        13       recount where we came in this chamber and

        14       there were red roses on a desk and we lost a

        15       colleague.  And those were tough days here.

        16       For me, they were.

        17                  Political high points and some low

        18       points.  You know, my colleagues on this side

        19       of the aisle gave me the privilege in 1995 to

        20       commence being the Minority Leader.  I look

        21       around here, I only see two members here who

        22       helped me get to that magic number.  Thank

        23       you, Efrain.  Thank you, Velmanette.  And

        24       thanks to the rest of you who supported me

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         1                  You know, there are no enemies

         2       here.  I've always believed in politics there

         3       are no enemies.  There are foes, and then

         4       everybody is a friend, because we're all

         5       motivated by the same thing.

         6                  So I have, on high days and low

         7       days, just loved every minute of it.  It has

         8       just absolutely -- you know, as Minority

         9       Leader I probably had dinner at the White

        10       House five or six times.  I got to go places

        11       where I just never dreamed, as a kid in

        12       Trenton, New Jersey, working a night shift in

        13       a factory while I was going to school, that

        14       I'd ever get to go.

        15                  And I owe that to the people who

        16       elected me, the people who supported me all

        17       those years, the wonderful staff I've had,

        18       certainly my family.  My grandmother and

        19       grandfather got to see me here in 1978.  My

        20       grandmother was my inspiration for politics.

        21       Quit school at fourth grade, went to work in a

        22       factory at 12 -- lied, because you had to be

        23       14.  Worked in Woodrow Wilson's campaign for

        24       governor of New Jersey.

        25                  So, you know, it's just been a



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         1       wonderful, wonderful experience.  I urge you

         2       all, remember, you have your disputes here,

         3       you have your battles, so to speak.  Sometimes

         4       heated words are exchanged.  When you leave,

         5       you're colleagues, you're friends.

         6                  I urge you to go back to something

         7       we haven't done that much in more recent

         8       years, and that is socialize together across

         9       party lines.

        10                  One of the first major bills I

        11       passed, which someone just reminded me of,

        12       involving loans to podiatry students -- for

        13       which I got an honorary degree a few years

        14       later -- I owe to Senator LaValle and I having

        15       a discussion over dinner.  And it was in his

        16       committee, and it got moving.

        17                  So you can accomplish things.  My

        18       advice to those who may find themselves in the

        19       minority -- and I jokingly said to someone,

        20       I'm going to start a consulting business

        21       because I have more experience than anybody in

        22       this room on how to survive in the minority.

        23       So I don't know -- but I'm not predicting the

        24       future.  But maybe, you know, a little advice,

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         1       in the minority, might be a possible career

         2       path for next year.

         3                  (Laughter.)

         4                  SENATOR CONNOR:    And I do feel a

         5       little bit -- and nothing is certain, I know.

         6       But I feel a little bit like Moses.  You know,

         7       I wandered in the desert of the minority for

         8       31 years, and then I got to the edge and I

         9       look down and I think I see the promised land,

        10       but I can't go in.

        11                  (Laughter.)

        12                  SENATOR CONNOR:    But that said, I

        13       do want to thank all of you, my colleagues,

        14       for all the many courtesies that you've

        15       extended me over the years and extended to my

        16       family.

        17                  I want to thank the many, many

        18       staff members without whom I could have done

        19       nothing.  I can still remember my first three

        20       staff members when I first got here.  I'm

        21       married to one of them; I'd better remember

        22       her.

        23                  But the fact is that staff of all

        24       the members and the staff of the Senate, the

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         1       people who deliver things to your office to

         2       whatever -- have always been so courteous and

         3       so professional.  And, my colleagues, I've

         4       observed enough to know we as a class, elected

         5       officials, we ain't easy to work for

         6       sometimes.  You know, we sometimes make

         7       demands on people's time and patience that

         8       they may not find in other lines of work.

         9                  So that said, I have loved every

        10       minute of it.  And I won't say farewell, I

        11       will say adieu.

        12                  (Extended standing ovation.)

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        14       Smith.

        15                  SENATOR SMITH:    Yes,

        16       Mr. President, thank you.

        17                  Before I make comments on my next

        18       colleague, I do want to -- and I know Majority

        19       Leader Skelos will do the honor, but I do want

        20       to, to Senator Maltese, Senator Trunzo, and

        21       Senator Mary Lou Rath, want to also extend the

        22       best wishes of our conference to these members

        23       who have also served in distinction to this

        24       body.

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         1       this is more about our contribution and what

         2       we do on behalf of this state.  All of you

         3       have served here longer than I have been here.

         4       You have contributed much to the betterment of

         5       the state.  And there are many things that you

         6       should feel proud of within your district and

         7       around the state, all that you've done on

         8       behalf of the 19 million people that are here

         9       at present.

        10                  Most people talk about this being

        11       the former Empire State.  Well, I would only

        12       challenge them to know that with colleagues

        13       such as yourself, who have given up so much of

        14       your personal life for public benefit, that

        15       because of you this state is still the Empire

        16       State and will always be the Empire State, and

        17       it was definitely my honor to serve in this

        18       body with each and every one of you as well.

        19                  Senator Gonzalez.  Mis amigo.  Mis

        20       hermano.  Mucho trabajo all the time.  A man

        21       who, as many of you know, came to the Senate

        22       because he lived in a district where many

        23       people felt that there was very little

        24       representation for the Hispanic population as

        25       well as those who basically felt that they



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         1       were just cast aside from the norms of what

         2       government was supposed to do.

         3                  Senator Gonzalez, who has now

         4       served in this body 20 years -- 20?

         5                  SENATOR GONZALEZ:    Nineteen

         6       years.

         7                  SENATOR SMITH:    I say 20.  Leader

         8       prerogative, 20 years.  But he has clearly

         9       served in the 33rd District in the Bronx.

        10       Someone who -- and while I won't read all his

        11       accomplishments, but you know he established

        12       the Democratic Task Force on International

        13       Trade.  He developed that New York-Cuba

        14       Economic Development Task Force.

        15                  Also, when it wasn't popular,

        16       helped sponsor legislation that established

        17       the office of healthcare with regard to AIDS.

        18       And many of us know how critical that

        19       particular disease is to many of our

        20       communities today.  He had the passion, the

        21       foresight, and the vision to understand what

        22       was important to the people around this state.

        23                  Senator Gonzalez is a humble man.

        24       He is not someone who will be loud.  You don't

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         1       the press having dozens of press conferences.

         2       But he has been extremely effective.  When you

         3       go to his district or you walk through the

         4       district with him, everybody knows him.  They

         5       know him for his passion, for his caringness.

         6       They know him for somebody who works 24 hours

         7       a day.

         8                  There was never a time that I would

         9       reach out to Senator Gonzalez, no matter what

        10       time of day, where, surprisingly, he would

        11       answer the phone.  And most people know I

        12       don't get sleep, and I try not to.  And I can

        13       tell you, whether it was 1 o'clock or

        14       2 o'clock or 3 o'clock, he was answering that

        15       phone and always ready to give some advice.

        16                  The thing that Senator Gonzalez

        17       does very well, and some of you may know, is

        18       he is a shy teacher.  I mean that to say some

        19       of us will come when you come to this floor,

        20       and you have members who will immediately

        21       embrace you and tell you what to do, what not

        22       to do, how to do it and when to do it.

        23                  Senator Gonzalez doesn't do that.

        24       Senator Gonzalez waits, he watches.  He will

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         1       out of the chamber or coming out of your

         2       office.  You may not pay much attention to it,

         3       but then the next day it will click, because

         4       you made the mistake that he tried to tell you

         5       not to make.

         6                  And so he has been the kind of

         7       passionate legislator that is very calm about

         8       what he likes to accomplish, but yet and still

         9       very firm and committed to his goals and

        10       objectives, which was for the betterment of

        11       people who have not been served.

        12                  Senator Gonzalez, while many of my

        13       colleagues will want to not miss you, we will

        14       miss you.  And I know many will try not to

        15       miss you, because it hurts when you miss

        16       someone that you're so fond of.  And so you

        17       try to push it to the side like it's not

        18       there.  It's like pain sometimes.  We will

        19       miss you.  We will miss you.  The body will

        20       miss you, I will miss you, your colleagues

        21       will miss you.

        22                  And understand, as with Senator

        23       Connor, this chamber is always considered to

        24       be your chamber.  There's not a member in this

        25       house that will not take the time to listen to



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         1       you, to spend time with you.  And the chair

         2       that you sit in, you have to pay for that

         3       yourself.

         4                  (Laughter.)

         5                  SENATOR SMITH:    But we will

         6       always be your colleague.

         7                  These are not easy moments.  And I

         8       say that for Senator Connor and Senator

         9       Gonzalez as well as Senator Maltese, Senator

        10       Trunzo, and Senator Mary Lou Rath.  It's not

        11       always easy to say goodbye to colleagues.  But

        12       the thing that allows us to move on to the

        13       next day is that what you have contributed to

        14       this body and to the betterment of this state

        15       will be forever.

        16                  The archives will always have your

        17       names in it, will always have the legislation

        18       that you passed, and the lives that you

        19       impacted, whether they are still living in

        20       this state or moved beyond, will always

        21       remember what you did for each and every one

        22       of us.

        23                  Mis hermanos always.  I love you

        24       and will always be a friend of yours.

        25                  Thank you very much, Mr. President.



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         1                  (Standing ovation.)

         2                  SENATOR GONZALEZ:    Mr. President.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         4       Gonzalez.

         5                  SENATOR GONZALEZ:    Thank you.

         6                  To my colleagues, thank you.

         7       Nineteen years in the Senate, but I think 34

         8       years as either a staffer I've been around

         9       this Senate body.  I think that Senator

        10       LaValle and I were staffers at the same time

        11       back then.

        12                  And so I've always been someone

        13       that, whether both sides of the aisle, very

        14       true to staff, because they're the ones that

        15       you do the work.  You help us be who we are.

        16       And I say that because, my colleagues, I mean

        17       it's so important how I've worked to make my

        18       staff -- not mine only, but central staff on

        19       both sides of the aisle.

        20                  Through the years, I've gotten to

        21       serve under four minority leaders and four

        22       majority leaders.  But I've always looked to

        23       reach out on both sides of the aisle so that

        24       we can do things together.  And that's what

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         1       We've got to do these things together for the

         2       people of the State of New York.

         3                  So there are many of our colleagues

         4       who are not here and who have gone, but I've

         5       always taken their inputs and their thoughts

         6       and working so that we work together as

         7       passionate as we can be.  And boy, I've been

         8       passionate about our issue.  But it's working

         9       together, it's the only way that we can get

        10       through the hard times that we're about to

        11       face.

        12                  So I thank you all from the bottom

        13       of my heart.  Thank you.

        14                  (Applause.)

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        16       Skelos.

        17                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Thank you,

        18       Mr. President.

        19                  Today this body comes together not

        20       as members of the Majority, the Minority,

        21       Republicans or Democrats, we come together as

        22       fellow colleagues to say goodbye but also to

        23       say thank you to five individuals who have

        24       served in this chamber.

        25                  Efrain, I wish you the best.



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         1                  And, Marty, needless to say, you've

         2       had a great career.  The first time I ran for

         3       the Senate, you were head of the campaign

         4       committee and you beat me.  Not that I will

         5       ever remember that.

         6                  (Laughter.)

         7                  SENATOR SKELOS:    But always a

         8       worthy advocate.  And we wish you well.

         9                  To our colleagues on this side of

        10       the aisle, Mary Lou Rath, Serf Maltese, and

        11       Caesar Trunzo, all of you have distinguished

        12       yourselves in your career.  You know, your

        13       record speaks for itself.  I'm not going to go

        14       through all the wonderful bills that you have

        15       passed.

        16                  Mary Lou, in terms of your service

        17       in local governments, protecting our local

        18       governments, smart growth, so many areas that

        19       you've been involved with.  You have a

        20       tremendous legacy, and I know how proud we are

        21       of you and certainly your family.

        22                  Serf, defender of New York City.

        23       Just a gentleman, an absolute gentleman who

        24       all of us in this conference respect

        25       tremendously.  In terms of the arts, bills



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         1       that you've passed, we say thank you to you

         2       for your wonderful service.

         3                  And to Caesar, our neighbor on Long

         4       Island -- was it 32 years?

         5                  SENATOR TRUNZO:    Thirty-six.

         6                  SENATOR SKELOS:    Thirty-six years

         7       of wonderful service.

         8                  And you think about all the

         9       wonderful progress that members of labor have

        10       made in terms of respect for themselves,

        11       decent wages, I believe agency shop, the

        12       original agency shop bill.  All of those,

        13       Senator Caesar Trunzo was the sponsor of.

        14       And, Caesar, we thank you for your wonderful

        15       service.

        16                  As Senator Smith mentioned, it's

        17       always difficult to say goodbye to a

        18       colleague.  You know, sometimes we battle in

        19       this chamber.  Sometimes we come together.

        20       But I do believe there's always that mutual

        21       respect that we've all had the great privilege

        22       of sitting right here in this beautiful Senate

        23       chamber.

        24                  And I'm here now 24 years, and

        25       every so often I'll just sit and you start



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         1       looking around at the beautiful decor here.  I

         2       never noticed that individual who's there, and

         3       I'll have to find out who it was.

         4                  But that's what we do every day.

         5       Besides just staring at the ceiling, we do a

         6       lot of good work.

         7                  (Laughter.)

         8                  SENATOR SKELOS:    But it is

         9       difficult to say goodbye.

        10                  And to our colleagues that are

        11       leaving, we wish you all good health, all good

        12       health that you've earned, retirement to enjoy

        13       life as you wish now, not having to be here on

        14       every controversial bill, not having

        15       necessarily to go to all those committee

        16       meetings or the chicken dinners that we've had

        17       so much of over the years.  But you've earned,

        18       you've earned good health.

        19                  And to all of you, I pray that God

        20       gives you the good health and the happiness

        21       with your families that you've all earned.

        22                  So I congratulate you again on

        23       behalf of a united body -- not Republicans or

        24       Democrats, Majority or Minority -- in saying

        25       thank you.  To our three colleagues, we thank



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         1       you and we love you.

         2                  (Standing ovation.)

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         4       Rath.

         5                  SENATOR RATH:    Someone is going

         6       to have to take care of Senator Larkin now

         7       that I'm gone.  All of you promise.

         8                  No, it's been wonderful being back

         9       here in the back row with you, Bill, really,

        10       and with Carl and with all of you.  And this

        11       has been like that movie "The Long Goodbye."

        12       I think when I made my announcement at the end

        13       of January, it just has been goodbye, goodbye.

        14                  And as I've been drawing myself

        15       together for saying goodbye to my constituents

        16       in my last newspaper article that I wrote for

        17       the Amherst Bee, I thought to myself what is

        18       it that I can say that is important after all

        19       that's been said for 15 years in the Senate

        20       and 15 years in the county legislature, 30

        21       years in public life.

        22                  And I would sit here on nights like

        23       this and listen to Manny Gold and Franz

        24       Leichter when they said their goodbyes.  And

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         1       And John Daly, eloquent as the day was long.

         2                  So I'm not going to try to be

         3       eloquent or repeat what Efrain has said or

         4       Marty has said, because those sentiments are

         5       there.  But what did I say to my constituents?

         6       I said to them I think if there's anything

         7       that I have learned -- and again, from another

         8       eloquent man who I've quoted many times --

         9       I've always liked Thomas Jefferson's thoughts.

        10       And he said that, if I can paraphrase it, the

        11       price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

        12                  And if that's what we do here, if

        13       that's what we do here, then it's a small

        14       price that we together pay for the liberty

        15       that we hold so dear, the liberties and the

        16       freedoms.  And we do that on behalf of our

        17       constituents.  We do that with each other,

        18       back and forth.

        19                  And as Efrain just said, when times

        20       are tough, we work together.  We just saw a

        21       wonderful bill come from Senator LaValle and

        22       Senator Stavisky who worked together to get

        23       that bill done.  That's how our shining

        24       moments show up.

        25                  And so if eternal vigilance is the



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         1       price that we pay, and if our process and our

         2       system -- and it's easy when you're talking

         3       globally, but when we're talking on state

         4       government's level or local government's

         5       level, the vigilance of keeping the system

         6       going and keeping it straight and keeping it

         7       fair for all of our constituents -- then I'm

         8       proud to have been a part of that, and proud

         9       to have served with all of you who have really

        10       enriched my life and all of you who have

        11       served so much and so well for the people of

        12       the great State of New York.

        13                  Thank you.

        14                  (Standing ovation.)

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        16       Trunzo.

        17                  SENATOR TRUNZO:    I didn't expect

        18       this, but so be it.  You know, 36 years up

        19       here has been quite an experience for me,

        20       something that I've enjoyed very much.

        21       Really, it's been my life, so to speak.

        22                  And before that, I was eight years

        23       as a councilman for the town of Islip.  So for

        24       45 years I've been an elected official.

        25                  And I remember at various functions



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         1       that during the campaign when I was being

         2       introduced, and at one point somebody turned

         3       around and said, you know, I actually had

         4       50 years of government work.  Because back in

         5       1959, I was appointed as a member of the Islip

         6       Town Planning Board, and I served on that five

         7       years.

         8                  And so I sat with the individual

         9       after he finished speaking, saying, you know,

        10       "You said I spent my life here."  I said, "If

        11       I include those five years that I have at the

        12       planning board, I'd have to be a hundred years

        13       old.  I'm only 82."

        14                  (Laughter.)

        15                  SENATOR TRUNZO:    And so really,

        16       half my life has been as an elected official.

        17                  And these days I've been going

        18       around thinking as to what I have to do.  This

        19       morning I spent time filling out retirement

        20       papers and that kind of stuff.  And it's very

        21       sad in my life and what am I going to do with

        22       myself.  When I get up in the morning, what,

        23       I've got to go down to the basement?  I have

        24       no office to go to, anything of that sort.

        25                  But believe me, it has been an



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         1       experience here.  I know my opponent during

         2       the campaign just made one statement,

         3       indicated -- at least his people might have

         4       stated that I never spoke too much; in fact, I

         5       didn't say a word two years in this

         6       Legislature.

         7                  Now, all these years, many years --

         8       and I remember one of the Newsday reporters

         9       many, many years ago said to me, "I've got to

        10       write something about you."  I said, "Why is

        11       that?  "You keep passing bills without any

        12       debate."

        13                  But I have good bills, and

        14       therefore you guys over there don't want to

        15       debate me.

        16                  (Laughter; applause.)

        17                  SENATOR TRUNZO:    So that's what

        18       it's all about.

        19                  You know, and then we hear the

        20       "Hail, Caesar," the "Hail, Caesar."  Evidently

        21       a number of the people said "The hell with

        22       Caesar."

        23                  (Laughter.)

        24                  SENATOR TRUNZO:    And so that's

        25       it.



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         1                  And so with that, I'm really going

         2       to miss all of this.  But God bless all of you

         3       for the work that we've done together and many

         4       of the things that we have done.

         5                  And my colleagues who were elected

         6       with me, Senator Johnson, you know, you're

         7       going to reach that age pretty soon and --

         8                  (Laughter.)

         9                  SENATOR TRUNZO:    In fact, you

        10       look older than I do, so --

        11                  (Laughter, catcalls.)

        12                  SENATOR TRUNZO:    Anyway, look,

        13       I'll end it with that.  You know, the -- so

        14       "the hell with Caesar" has happened,

        15       eventually would happen.

        16                  And I hope to be around for a

        17       number of more years.  And with that, God

        18       bless all of you for all the work we've done

        19       together.  Thank you.

        20                  (Standing ovation.)

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        22       Maltese.

        23                  SENATOR OWEN JOHNSON:    Is this

        24       thing working?

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         1       the only three left of about 20 new Senators

         2       that came in in '72.  Took office in '73,

         3       really.

         4                  And when I was first elected, I was

         5       mostly in Nassau County and part of Babylon.

         6       Every 10 years when they had a census, it

         7       moved a little further east, a little further

         8       east.  Caesar said, "Every time you move, you

         9       take part of my district away.  Every time,

        10       you take a part of my district away."

        11                  But we always got along well,

        12       really.  Caesar was a great leader and a great

        13       friend.  And I don't know what to say.  I told

        14       him, and he didn't keep his word.  He said

        15       he's going to keep serving here as long as I

        16       do.  So I'm a little disappointed in that, but

        17       I'll see you around home, I'm sure.

        18                  And you're a great guy, a great

        19       friend to everybody.  And we all love you,

        20       Caesar.

        21                  Thank you.

        22                  (Applause.)

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

        24       Maltese.

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         1       first of all, I want to wish Godspeed to my

         2       colleagues, all of you, and certainly those

         3       that are leaving with me, Marty and Efrain and

         4       of course Mary Lou and Caesar.  Certainly you

         5       couldn't be in better company.

         6                  Many, many years ago -- over 50, as

         7       a matter of fact -- I first came up to Albany

         8       with my high school group.  And when I saw the

         9       Senate chamber, I fell in love with it.  And I

        10       wasn't smart enough to say at the time that

        11       I'd be back, but the fact is that I was.  I

        12       did come back.

        13                  In 1965, I ran for the State

        14       Senate.  That was that odd year.  And I like

        15       to say to some of the school groups that

        16       23 years later, I won.

        17                  (Laughter.)

        18                  SENATOR MALTESE:    And persistence

        19       pays.

        20                  But the fact is that I've always

        21       been among those that felt that politics and

        22       government is certainly a noble calling.  And

        23       everything I've seen these last 40 years, and

        24       the last 20 in the Senate, have certainly

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         1                  I've enjoyed it.  My wife,

         2       Constance, of 53 years has stood beside me all

         3       that time -- sometimes a little ahead of me.

         4       And it's been a very pleasant, pleasant

         5       experience.

         6                  I've enjoyed working with you, I

         7       think my staff have become my friends.

         8       They've endeavored to make me look good,

         9       sometimes under difficult circumstances.

        10                  But the fact is that I many times

        11       wondered at the fact -- and some of you may

        12       not like this -- but that they pay us to do

        13       this.  That it's so much fun to represent the

        14       people.

        15                  We do accomplish a great deal.  I

        16       know all of you do, through many, many

        17       difficulties.  I think this is a great body.

        18       I've enjoyed working with all of you.  I

        19       subscribe to the saying that Buckley had, you

        20       can disagree without being disagreeable.  I

        21       admire what you do.  I admire all of you, my

        22       colleagues and my friends.  God bless you, and

        23       please persevere in giving the people the type

        24       of government that they need and deserve.

        25                  Thank you all for everything you've



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         1       done.  Thank you.

         2                  (Applause.)

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    Senator

         4       Skelos.

         5                  SENATOR SKELOS:    If I could,

         6       there's going to be an immediate short

         7       conference of the Majority in the Majority

         8       Conference Room.

         9                  Is there any further business at

        10       the desk?

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    No,

        12       there is not, Senator Skelos.

        13                  SENATOR SKELOS:    I wish, first of

        14       all, everybody happy holidays.

        15                  I know this is an interesting time

        16       of year, and look forward to seeing you on

        17       January 7th.

        18                  There being no further business to

        19       come before the Senate, I move we stand

        20       adjourned until the call of the Majority

        21       Leader, intervening days being legislative

        22       days.

        23                  Thank you very much, and God bless.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT WINNER:    On

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         2       being legislative days.

         3                  (Whereupon, at 7:26 p.m., the

         4       Senate adjourned.)

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