Regular Session - May 9, 2011

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         1                 NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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         4                THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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         9                   ALBANY, NEW YORK

        10                      May 9, 2011

        11                       3:18 p.m.

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        14                    REGULAR SESSION

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        18  SENATOR JOSEPH A. GRIFFO, Acting President

        19  FRANCIS W. PATIENCE, Secretary

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         1                 P R O C E E D I N G S

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         3       Senate will come to order.

         4                  I ask all present to please rise

         5       and join with me as we recite the Pledge of

         6       Allegiance to our Flag.

         7                  (Whereupon, the assemblage recited

         8       the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    In the

        10       absence of clergy, I ask all to bow your heads

        11       in a moment of silent reflection.

        12                  (Whereupon, the assemblage

        13       respected a moment of silence.)

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        15       reading of the Journal.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    In Senate,

        17       Sunday, May 8, the Senate met pursuant to

        18       adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday, May 7,

        19       was read and approved.  On motion, Senate

        20       adjourned.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Without

        22       objection, the Journal stands approved as

        23       read.

        24                  Presentation of petitions.

        25                  Messages from the Assembly.



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         1                  The Secretary will read.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Senator Maziarz

         3       moves to discharge, from the Committee on

         4       Energy and Telecommunications, Assembly Bill

         5       Number 6270B and substitute it for the

         6       identical Senate Bill Number 3407A, Third

         7       Reading Calendar 143.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

         9       Substitution so ordered.

        10                  Messages from the Governor.

        11                  Reports of standing committees.

        12                  Reports of select committees.

        13                  Communications and reports of state

        14       officers.

        15                  Motions and resolutions.

        16                  Senator Breslin.

        17                  SENATOR BRESLIN:    Thank you,

        18       Mr. President.

        19                  On behalf of Senator Adams, I move

        20       that the following bill be discharged from its

        21       respective committee and be recommitted with

        22       instructions to strike the enacting clause:

        23       Senate Number 3706.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    So

        25       ordered.



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         1                  SENATOR BRESLIN:    Finally, on

         2       behalf of Senator Addabbo, I move that the

         3       following bill be discharged from its

         4       respective committee and be recommitted with

         5       instructions to strike the enacting clause:

         6       Senate Number 1259.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    So

         8       ordered.

         9                  SENATOR BRESLIN:    Thank you,

        10       Mr. President.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Thank

        12       you, Senator Breslin.

        13                  Senator Valesky.

        14                  SENATOR VALESKY:    Thank you,

        15       Mr. President.

        16                  On behalf of Senator Klein, on

        17       page 31 I offer the following amendments to

        18       Calendar Number 310, Senate Print 3889, and

        19       ask that said bill retain its place on the

        20       Third Reading Calendar.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        22       amendments are accepted and the bill will

        23       retain its place on the Third Reading

        24       Calendar.

        25                  SENATOR VALESKY:    Also,



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         1       Mr. President, I wish to call up my bill,

         2       Print Number 656, recalled from the Assembly,

         3       which is now at the desk.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         5       Secretary will read.

         6                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         7       11, by Senator Valesky, Senate Print 656, an

         8       act to amend the Environmental Conservation

         9       Law.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        11       Valesky.

        12                  SENATOR VALESKY:    Mr. President,

        13       I now move to reconsider the vote by which

        14       this bill was passed.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        16       the roll on reconsideration.

        17                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        20       Valesky.

        21                  SENATOR VALESKY:    Mr. President,

        22       I now offer the following amendments.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        24       amendments are received.

        25                  Senator Libous.



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         1                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you,

         2       Mr. President.  I have a handful here, so if

         3       you and the members would bear with me.

         4                  On behalf of Senator Grisanti, on

         5       page 20 I offer the following amendments to

         6       Calendar Number 102, Senate Print Number 2686,

         7       and ask that said bill retain its place on the

         8       Third Reading Calendar.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        10       amendments are received, and the bill will

        11       retain its place on third reading.

        12                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    On behalf of

        13       Senator Bonacic, on page 26 I offer the

        14       following amendments to Calendar Number 225,

        15       Senate Print 2143A, and ask that said bill

        16       retain its place on the Third Reading

        17       Calendar.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        19       amendments are received, and the bill will

        20       retain its place on Third Reading Calendar.

        21                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you,

        22       Mr. President.

        23                  On page 33 I offer the following

        24       amendments to Calendar Number 344, Senate

        25       Print Number 3764 and ask that said bill



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         1       retain its place on the Third Reading

         2       Calendar.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         4       amendments are received, and the bill will

         5       retain its place on the Third Reading

         6       Calendar.

         7                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Again on behalf

         8       of Senator Bonacic, on page 40 I offer the

         9       following amendments to Calendar Number 416,

        10       Senate Print 2135, and ask that said bill

        11       retain its place on Third Reading Calendar.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        13       amendments are received, and the bill will

        14       retain its place on third reading.

        15                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President, I

        16       now wish to call up Resolution Number 1337,

        17       which is now at the desk.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        19       Secretary will read.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Legislative

        21       Resolution Number 1337, by Senator Griffo,

        22       urging the New York State Congressional

        23       delegation.

        24                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President, I

        25       now move to reconsider the vote by which this



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         1       resolution was passed.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         3       the roll on reconsideration.

         4                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 53.

         6                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President, I

         7       now move to recommit my resolution to the

         8       Committee on Finance.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    So

        10       ordered.

        11                  Senator Libous.

        12                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

        13       on behalf of Senator Hannon, on page 37 I

        14       offer the following amendments Calendar Number

        15       389, Senate Print 4376, and ask that said bill

        16       retain its place on the Third Reading

        17       Calendar.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        19       amendments are received, and the bill will

        20       retain its place on third reading.

        21                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you,

        22       Mr. President.

        23                  And finally, on behalf of Senator

        24       Nozzolio, on page 39 I offer the following

        25       amendments to Calendar Number 410, Senate



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         1       Print Number 476, and then ask that said bill

         2       retain its place on the Third Reading

         3       Calendar.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         5       amendments are received, and the bill will

         6       retain its place on third reading.

         7                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

         9       Libous.

        10                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you,

        11       Mr. President.  I wasn't sure if you saw me.

        12                  Mr. President, I believe there's a

        13       privileged resolution at the desk by Senator

        14       Espaillat.  May we please have the title read,

        15       and I believe the Senator would like to be

        16       called on, and then move for its adoption.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        18       Secretary will read.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Legislative

        20       resolution by Senator Espaillat, honoring

        21       Ms. L. Ann Rocker for her ceaseless dedicated

        22       service to her community.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        24       Espaillat.

        25                  SENATOR ESPAILLAT:    Thank you,



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         1       Mr. President.

         2                  Colleagues, we are joined here by a

         3       special person, someone who has been a

         4       resident for 46 years of the West Harlem

         5       community.  She is in the balcony.

         6                  And she has been a strong supporter

         7       of a healthy community.  She has been a person

         8       that has worked very closely with her

         9       neighbors when the North River Sewage

        10       Treatment Plant was installed just a few

        11       blocks away from her home some 25 years ago.

        12       But she continues to advocate for the safety

        13       and the health and the interests of our

        14       communities and tries to mitigate the effects

        15       that this sewage treatment plant has on the

        16       immediate community.

        17                  As you know, Mr. President, many of

        18       the neighborhoods throughout the City of

        19       New York suffer from environmental issues.

        20       She has been a strong and steadfast supporter

        21       of neighbors and families in their quest to

        22       have clean air, to have better conditions not

        23       only for those but most importantly for our

        24       children.

        25                  So I am happy to have her here.



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         1       She was one of the folks that was instrumental

         2       in negotiating with the state to have the

         3       Riverbank State Park installed where now

         4       thousands of families and children benefit

         5       from those amenities.

         6                  So I am happy to have Ms. Ann

         7       Rocker here with us today.  She's a true

         8       environmental champion.  And I'm happy to have

         9       her here in the State Senate in Albany,

        10       New York.

        11                  Welcome to Albany, Ms. Rocker.

        12                  (Applause.)

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Thank

        14       you, and we welcome you.

        15                  The question is on the resolution.

        16       All in favor signify by saying aye.

        17                  (Response of "Aye.")

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

        19       Opposed?

        20                  (No response.)

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        22       resolution is adopted.

        23                  Senator Libous.

        24                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you,

        25       Mr. President.



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         1                  I believe that Senator Espaillat

         2       has another privileged resolution at the desk.

         3       May we please have the title read, call on the

         4       Senator, and we'll move for its adoption.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         6       Secretary will read.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Legislative

         8       resolution by Senator Espaillat, commending

         9       Rosa Zorilla for her dedication in preserving

        10       her community's housing resources and

        11       recognizing her as a leader and an inspiration

        12       to the members of her community.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        14       Espaillat.

        15                  SENATOR ESPAILLAT:    Thank you,

        16       Mr. President.

        17                  Accompanying Ms. Rocker we have

        18       another woman who's a strong advocate for

        19       housing.  And as you all know, this year is a

        20       big housing year where we'll be taking on

        21       legislation hopefully to renew the rent laws

        22       and strengthen tenant protection.  And she has

        23       been one person that has been a strong

        24       advocate for tenants' rights.

        25                  They sort of like live in the same



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         1       neighborhood, so we have a dynamic duo here

         2       today.  And I'm happy to have Ms. Zorilla,

         3       Rosa Zorilla, here representing the Hamilton

         4       Heights/West Harlem community.

         5                  She organizes tenants.  She has

         6       been part of the TIL program that empowers

         7       tenants in having their own apartments, their

         8       own building.  She has been one that has

         9       denounced violations in buildings that are

        10       sometimes very serious and present a clear and

        11       present danger to families and children.

        12                  So thank you, Ms. Zorilla, for

        13       coming to Albany and joining us all here in

        14       the State Senate, and we welcome you as well.

        15       Thank you.

        16                  (Applause.)

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Thank

        18       you and welcome.

        19                  The question is on the resolution.

        20       All in favor signify by saying aye.

        21                  (Response of "Aye.")

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

        23       Opposed?

        24                  (No response.)

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The



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         1       resolution is adopted.

         2                  Senator Libous.

         3                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

         4       can we now go to the reading of the

         5       noncontroversial calendar.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         7       Secretary will read the noncontroversial

         8       calendar.

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        10       7, by Senator Diaz, Senate Print 331A, an act

        11       to amend the Elder Law.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        13       the last section.

        14                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

        15       act shall take effect immediately.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        17       the roll.

        18                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        21       bill is passed.

        22                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        23       77, by Senator Young, Senate Print 863A, an

        24       act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read



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         1       the last section.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         3       act shall take effect immediately.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         5       the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         9       bill is passed.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        11       133, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 2938A, an

        12       act to enact Michelle and Jordan's Law.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        14       the last section.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        16       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        18       the roll.

        19                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        22       bill is passed.

        23                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        24       143, substituted earlier today by Member of

        25       the Assembly Crespo, Assembly Print Number



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         1       6270B, an act to amend the Public Service Law.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         3       the last section.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         5       act shall take effect immediately.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         7       the roll.

         8                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         9                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 58.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        11       bill is passed.

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

        13       Calendar Number 162, Senator LaValle moves to

        14       discharge, from the Committee on Local

        15       Government, Assembly Bill Number 5028 and

        16       substitute it for the identical Senate Bill

        17       Number 3176, Third Reading Calendar 162.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

        19       Substitution so ordered.

        20                  The Secretary will read.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        22       162, by Member of the Assembly Sweeney,

        23       Assembly Print Number 5028, an act to amend

        24       the Real Property Tax Law.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read



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         1       the last section.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         3       act shall take effect immediately.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         5       the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         9       bill is passed.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        11       234, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 1737A,

        12       an act to amend Chapter 616 of the Laws of

        13       1992.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        15       the last section.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        17       act shall take effect immediately.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        19       the roll.

        20                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        23       bill is passed.

        24                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        25       242, by Senator Young, Senate Print 2839A, an



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         1       act to amend the Soil and Water Conservation

         2       Districts Law.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         4       the last section.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         6       act shall take effect immediately.

         7                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         8       the roll.

         9                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        12       bill is passed.

        13                  The Secretary will continue to

        14       read.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        16       263, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 1834,

        17       an act to amend the General Business Law.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        19       the last section.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        21       act shall take effect on the 60th day.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        23       the roll.

        24                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,



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         1       1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         3       bill is passed.

         4                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         5       264, by Senator Alesi, Senate Print 3736A, an

         6       act to --

         7                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Lay it aside for

         8       the day.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        10       bill is laid aside for the day.

        11                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        12       308, by Senator Martins, Senate Print 3210A,

        13       an act to amend the Penal Law.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        15       the last section.

        16                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        17       act shall take effect September 1, 2011.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        19       the roll.

        20                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 57.  Nays,

        22       3.  Senators Dilan, Duane and Montgomery

        23       recorded in the negative.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        25       bill is passed.



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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         2       309, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 2877A,

         3       an act to amend the Environmental Conservation

         4       Law.

         5                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         6       the last section.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         8       act shall take effect immediately.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        10       the roll.

        11                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        12                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.  Nays,

        13       4.  Senators Carlucci, Klein, Rivera and --

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        15       Libous.

        16                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Just hold the

        17       roll call on that for one second.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        19       roll call will be held.

        20                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

        21       can we withdraw the roll call and lay the bill

        22       aside for the day.

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        24       Secretary will call the roll on

        25       reconsideration.



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         1                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         4       roll call is withdrawn and the bill is laid

         5       aside for the day.

         6                  The Secretary will continue to

         7       read.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         9       313, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 4226, an

        10       act to amend the General City Law.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        12       the last section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

        14       act shall take effect immediately.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        16       the roll.

        17                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        20       bill is passed.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        22       366, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print

        23       3297, an act to amend the Education Law.

        24                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        25       the last section.



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         1                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

         2       act shall take effect six months after it

         3       shall have become law.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         5       the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         9       bill is passed.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        11       367, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 3964B, an

        12       act to amend the Education Law.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        14       the last section.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

        16       act shall take effect on the first of July.

        17                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        18       Libous.

        19                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    I want to

        20       explain my vote.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        22       Libous to explain his vote.

        23                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you,

        24       Mr. President.

        25                  This bill is pretty



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         1       straightforward.  It says that -- it requires,

         2       if you're going to be a superintendent in a

         3       New York State school district, that you live

         4       in the State of New York.  It doesn't restrict

         5       you to the county, it doesn't restrict you to

         6       any specific region.  You just have to be a

         7       resident and live in the State of New York.

         8       To me, that makes a lot of sense.

         9                  Now, moving forward, those

        10       individuals who are under -- Mr. President, I

        11       can't hear myself speak.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Can we

        13       have order in the chamber, please [gaveling].

        14                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you.

        15       Thank you.  That's much better.

        16                  Mr. President, if you're already

        17       under contract, you're grandfathered in.  If

        18       you're in the middle of a contract

        19       negotiation, you're grandfathered in.  But

        20       moving forward, I think it only makes sense

        21       that if you're going to be a superintendent in

        22       one of our great school districts in the State

        23       of New York, that you live in the State of

        24       New York.  Period.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator



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         1       Libous to be recorded in the affirmative.

         2                  Announce the results.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 56.  Nays,

         4       4.  Senators Marcellino, Oppenheimer, Rivera

         5       and Stavisky recorded in the negative.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         7       bill is passed.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         9       382, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 3442, an

        10       act to amend the Education Law.

        11                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        12       the last section.

        13                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

        14       act shall take effect on the 180th day.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        16       the roll.

        17                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        18                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        20       bill is passed.

        21                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        22       394, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 3917,

        23       an act to amend Chapter 581 of the Laws of

        24       2005.

        25                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read



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         1       the last section.

         2                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 2.  This

         3       act shall take effect immediately.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

         5       the roll.

         6                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         9       bill is passed.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        11       406, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 191 --

        12                  SENATOR BRESLIN:    Lay it aside.

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Lay it

        14       aside.

        15                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

        16       413, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print

        17       1072, an act to amend the Tax Law.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

        19       the last section.

        20                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 4.  This

        21       act shall take effect immediately.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        23       the roll.

        24                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        25                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 60.



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         1                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         2       bill is passed.

         3                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         4       417, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 2461, an

         5       act to amend the Executive Law.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Read

         7       the last section.

         8                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 3.  This

         9       act shall take effect on the first of April.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        11       the roll.

        12                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        13                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        14       Libous to explain his vote.

        15                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President, I

        16       just want to explain my vote.

        17                  This is a bill that we had before

        18       this house a couple of years ago.  It's called

        19       Honesty in Permitting.  And basically it means

        20       that state agencies have to process permits,

        21       teaching certificates, nursing certificates,

        22       things that our constituents want, that they

        23       have to do it in a timely manner.

        24                  And depending on what the normal

        25       time that they produce these instruments, that



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         1       they have a little bit of cushion.  But

         2       sometimes we hear the horror stories how

         3       people applied for a teaching certificate and

         4       three, four months go by and they've been

         5       offered a position and they can't teach

         6       because the Education Department hadn't given

         7       them the teaching certificate.

         8                  That's just one example.  I'm sure

         9       you can go on and on -- State Liquor

        10       Authority, a whole host of other places.

        11                  This is a fair and reasonable bill,

        12       and all it says is that state government has

        13       to perform for our constituents in a very

        14       timely manner.

        15                  Thank you.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        17       Libous to be recorded in the affirmative.

        18                  Announce the results.

        19                  THE SECRETARY:    Ayes, 59.  Nays,

        20       1.  Senator Montgomery recorded in the

        21       negative.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        23       bill is passed.

        24                  Senator Libous, that completes the

        25       noncontroversial reading of the calendar.



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         1                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you,

         2       Mr. President.  Can we now take up the

         3       controversial calendar.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         5       Secretary will ring the bell.

         6                  The Secretary will read.

         7                  THE SECRETARY:    Calendar Number

         8       406, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 191, an

         9       act to amend the Public Service Law.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        11       Krueger.

        12                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        13       If the sponsor would please yield to some

        14       questions.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        16       Maziarz, do you yield?

        17                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Absolutely,

        18       Mr. President.

        19                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        20       Krueger.

        21                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you

        22       very much.

        23                  I didn't ask you for an

        24       explanation, Senator Maziarz, because we have

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         1       you tell me --

         2                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Thank you.  I

         3       appreciate it.

         4                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

         5       Are there --

         6                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    I have a

         7       four-page explanation here, Senator.  But go

         8       ahead.

         9                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Oh, do you

        10       want to read that?

        11                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    No, no, go

        12       ahead.

        13                  (Laughter.)

        14                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    So because

        15       you and I have debated this bill in the past,

        16       as have quite a few other members here in the

        17       house today, can you tell me have we really

        18       changed anything from the last time we saw a

        19       bill like this on the floor, your bill?

        20                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Well, I think

        21       this bill is much more comprehensive.  It does

        22       take in the current aspects of the

        23       environmental justice regulations as set forth

        24       by the DEC.  It does establish a fund for

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         1       just about any individual, any group within a

         2       community setting that could intervene and

         3       have access to the intervenor funds.

         4                  Senator, I think some of those

         5       provisions were in previous versions of this

         6       bill, but they're even stronger, I think, in

         7       this particular bill, Senator.

         8                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Okay.

         9       Senator Maziarz, this seems to be an --

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        11       Krueger, are you asking Senator Maziarz to

        12       yield?

        13                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Excuse me.

        14       Mr. President, if through you the Senator

        15       would yield to another question.

        16                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Yes,

        17       Mr. President.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        19       Senator yields.

        20                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        21                  This appears to fast-track the

        22       process for siting power plants.  Are there

        23       any power plants in process now that need to

        24       be fast-tracked?

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         1       Mr. President.  Senator, I'm not so sure that

         2       I would agree with your characterization that

         3       this is a fast-tracking.  I think this is

         4       maybe a tracking, if you will, putting

         5       together a process.

         6                  I think if you looked at this bill

         7       and all the sections in the law and all the

         8       requirements that a permittee must go through,

         9       you're looking at, best-case scenario,

        10       Senator, probably a two, two-and-a-half-year

        11       process of just siting and permitting.  So I'm

        12       not so sure that it's fast-tracking.

        13                  Quite frankly, Senator, with the

        14       current energy market, particularly the demand

        15       of downstate New York -- Westchester, the

        16       City, Long Island -- the plans that are

        17       currently being discussed more so -- and I

        18       think if we're trying to slow down anything,

        19       Senator, it's the importation of power from

        20       other states -- from New Jersey, from

        21       Canada -- which of course will take away

        22       New York jobs and particularly, you know,

        23       those people in the power industry, members of

        24       the IBEW and so forth.

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         1       fast-tracking.  I mean, there are proposals

         2       right now, to get back to your -- maybe more

         3       specifically to your question, to site

         4       generation, you know, in all forms, solar,

         5       wind generation.  Yes.

         6                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Mr.

         7       President, if through you the sponsor would

         8       continue to yield.

         9                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        10       sponsor yields.

        11                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        12                  Under the previous Article X siting

        13       law we had a situation where applicants could

        14       site multiple small plants within a very close

        15       geographic area to avoid the Article X siting

        16       process.  But in fact which, when you looked

        17       at them in total, created a greater problem

        18       from an environmental hazard perspective than

        19       if there had been one large one.  What, in

        20       your bill, would change this from not

        21       continuing?

        22                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Senator, this

        23       does include that type of application.

        24       Actually, Senator, there would be required a

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         1       by the way, the DEC, Department of Health,

         2       department of ESDC, NYSERDA and I think Parks,

         3       Recreation and Historic Preservation.  But

         4       this would require both the prescreening for

         5       all the applicants, both the large and the

         6       small, Senator Krueger.

         7                  And it would be accumulative.  If

         8       they came in with an application for several

         9       small plants, the DEC would be required under

        10       this law, and the PSC, to look at it in an

        11       accumulative way.

        12                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Mr.

        13       President, if through you the sponsor would

        14       continue to yield.

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        16       sponsor yields.

        17                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    I do, Senator.

        18                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        19                  Senator, I understand as I read

        20       this bill that the bill established a

        21       comprehensive siting process that applied to

        22       new power plants with a net generating output

        23       of 80 megawatts or more, so that in fact you

        24       could do multiple smaller plants near each

        25       other so that the impact was far greater than



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         1       80 megawatts.

         2                  So explain to me again how we would

         3       stop the problems that we've been seeing,

         4       particularly in urban areas and downstate

         5       New York through your legislation.

         6                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Even those --

         7       even -- I'm sorry, Mr. President.  Could you

         8       repeat the question, Senator?  There was

         9       another conversation.

        10                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    I

        11       understand.  Through you, Mr. President.

        12                  So we've seen problems under the

        13       past law because there was an 80-megawatt

        14       cutoff and anything below that, you were

        15       allowed to do multiple side-by-side and skip a

        16       process.

        17                  Why in this bill haven't we lowered

        18       the 80-megawatt capacity to something lower

        19       and explicitly made it you can't do multiple

        20       sites next to other?

        21                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Through you,

        22       Mr. President.  What we're trying to do,

        23       Senator, is not stop a smaller generator,

        24       particularly, let's say, a farmer with maybe

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         1       some expansive solar project on agricultural

         2       property that may be 20 megawatts or less or

         3       just near the threshold.

         4                  We have to draw the line somewhere,

         5       Senator.  And, you know, wherever we draw the

         6       line, somebody is not going to be happy with

         7       it.

         8                  Now, you know, if you're going to

         9       build a power plant, you know, a generating

        10       station, you know, the chances are in order to

        11       turn a profit -- and, you know, we want

        12       private-sector investment in the energy field.

        13       You need it.  The ISO says that you need it

        14       particularly in downstate New York, in your

        15       district, Senator, in other districts that are

        16       represented by downstate Senators, that if we

        17       don't get it, you know, in a couple of years

        18       your constituents are going to suffer from

        19       brownouts, perhaps blackouts.  You know, it

        20       could be California of six years ago.

        21                  So, Senator, what we're looking at

        22       is for a private -- private investment,

        23       private-sector job creation.  And that the

        24       chances of them, a private-sector company

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         1       less than -- draw the line.  We draw it at

         2       80 -- they're probably not going to do it,

         3       Senator.

         4                  So I guess the short answer would

         5       be -- which is not so short -- is we had to

         6       draw a line somewhere, Senator.

         7                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Mr.

         8       President, if through you the sponsor would

         9       continue to yield.

        10                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        11       sponsor continues to yield.

        12                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        13       I appreciate the sponsor's responses to my

        14       questions.

        15                  Just for the record, because

        16       drawing the line is an important question

        17       here, the Assembly bill draws the line at

        18       20 megawatts.  I believe that the Senate

        19       Democrats in a previous session had proposed

        20       drawing it at 30 megawatts.

        21                  I think the concern here is your

        22       bill draws the line at 80 megawatts -- and

        23       you're right, we're all going to need more

        24       energy in the future.  We need a better, more

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         1       cleaner energy production sites.

         2                  But I guess the good news is we've

         3       got, according to the state, enough energy to

         4       make it through 2020 without any new power

         5       plants.  That's according to the 2010

         6       Reliability Needs Assessment by the New York

         7       State Independent Systems Operator --

         8       Operators, I think it is.

         9                  So my concern again is 80 megawatts

        10       is the standard we used in the past that has

        11       created so many problems, particularly in

        12       urban areas.

        13                  So the next question, so your bill

        14       would keep it at 80 megawatts.  And while

        15       there would be a process, you could still

        16       attempt to game the system by siting multiple

        17       smaller plants in close proximity to avoid

        18       being stopped.  Could we talk about

        19       particulate -- sorry, I have to get my notes

        20       out -- the concern about airborne pollutants

        21       through the level of particulate matter in the

        22       air and the 2.5 cutoff that I believe remains

        23       in your bill.

        24                  When I first was taking office in

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         1       power producer -- was, quote, unquote,

         2       upgrading an older power plant and arguing

         3       that they didn't really need to follow the

         4       clean air laws because they were upgrading as

         5       opposed to building new.  But there was a huge

         6       debate around the level of carbon dioxide

         7       small particulate emissions, referred to as

         8       PM2.5, which includes mercury and other toxins

         9       defined by the federal government as toxins.

        10                  And so what are we doing in this

        11       new proposed bill to protect communities --

        12       particularly urban, dense communities -- from

        13       a continued exposure to particulate emissions

        14       from the bad, dirtier kinds of power plants?

        15                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Through you,

        16       Mr. President.

        17                  First of all, let me just

        18       comment -- go back a little bit earlier to

        19       your previous comment about the Assembly's

        20       threshold of 20 megawatts, the Senate's

        21       threshold of 80 megawatts.  I suspect,

        22       Senator, that this bill -- hopefully, we pass

        23       it today -- that when the Governor engages in

        24       this issue, that the Assembly may pass a

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         1       end up somewhere between 20 and 80.  So I want

         2       to comment on that.

         3                  Regarding the clean air standards,

         4       Senator, this bill would require that not just

         5       a new generating facility but a retrofit of an

         6       existing generating facility would have to

         7       meet the clean air interstate rules as

         8       identified by the DEC.

         9                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        10                  Mr. President, if through you the

        11       sponsor would continue to yield.

        12                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Certainly,

        13       Mr. President.

        14                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        15       sponsor yields.

        16                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        17                  Would nuclear generating facilities

        18       operate under this siting bill?  Or would

        19       there be a need for the state to do another

        20       piece of legislation to deal with the much

        21       more complex issues of siting nuclear

        22       generating facilities?

        23                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    This bill

        24       exempts -- nuclear plants are federally

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         1       federally regulated facilities.

         2                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    So --

         3       excuse me, Mr. President.  If through you.

         4                  So this bill, going forward, would

         5       continue the pattern of New York State not

         6       having its own regulations to review siting of

         7       new nuclear generating facilities?

         8                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Yes.

         9                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Even though

        10       other states have gone forward with their own

        11       legislation to have requirements above and

        12       beyond what the Nuclear Regulatory Commission

        13       requires for nuclear sites.

        14                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    I'm not

        15       familiar with what other states are doing,

        16       Senator.

        17                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        18                  What would happen with coal-

        19       fired -- excuse me.  Mr. President, if through

        20       you the sponsor would continue to yield.

        21                  What would happen with coal-fired

        22       facilities in the context of your siting bill?

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Repeat

        24       the question, Senator Krueger.

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         1       this siting bill apply to coal-fired

         2       facilities?

         3                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Well, any

         4       siting of a new coal facility would have to

         5       meet the air quality standards.  I think,

         6       according to the current DEC standards, that

         7       may be extremely difficult.

         8                  But I think what's even better

         9       news, Senator Krueger, is that a retrofitting

        10       of any existing coal facility would have to

        11       meet those standards too.  They would

        12       basically have to meet the standards.

        13                  And it wouldn't be impossible,

        14       Senator; it would be extremely expensive.

        15                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        16                  Again, Mr. President, if the

        17       sponsor would continue to yield.

        18                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Certainly,

        19       Mr. President.

        20                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        21       sponsor yields.

        22                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you.

        23                  So but you could do siting of new

        24       coal-fired facilities under this law.  We

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         1                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    If they met the

         2       air quality standards set forth by the DEC,

         3       yes, they could.

         4                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    Thank you,

         5       Mr. President.  On the bill.

         6                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

         7       Krueger on the bill.

         8                  SENATOR LIZ KRUEGER:    I want to

         9       thank the sponsor for his explanation.

        10                  I want to argue that we should be

        11       voting no on this bill, and I'm hoping my

        12       colleagues will join me in this.

        13                  One, if this is not a fast-tracking

        14       for something that needs to be done right

        15       away -- and the sponsor, by his own

        16       statements, believes that a final siting bill

        17       for the State of New York would be somewhere

        18       between the bill he's proposing today and the

        19       bill that the Assembly is passing -- I,

        20       speaking for myself, don't know why I would

        21       want to vote for a bill that will leave so

        22       many unanswered questions out there.

        23                  There's not an urgent need to do

        24       this.  And in fact, he agrees it's not a

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         1       doesn't address nearly enough of the

         2       environmental concerns that have been raised

         3       over and over in this state around the siting

         4       of power plants.

         5                  Yes, we want clean energy.  We want

         6       more energy.  We want a modern grid.  Imagine

         7       if we could create the jobs by making New York

         8       State's grid comparable to other states in the

         9       country, other regions.  The Southwest has

        10       done an amazing job at upgrading their grid,

        11       which then allows them to move cleaner energy

        12       farther distances than we have the ability to

        13       do here in New York State.

        14                  This bill would continue the model

        15       basically that we had in place up until a few

        16       years ago when it sunsetted.  And that bill

        17       and the law that we had in place allowed for

        18       the building of dirty energy sites.  It

        19       allowed for the building of many small dirty

        20       sites next to each other, particularly in

        21       Queens and the Bronx in New York City.  It

        22       gave the energy companies too much freedom to

        23       stretch too far their interpretation of

        24       environmental law and protecting clean air in

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         1                  I appreciate that the Legislature

         2       wants to have a siting bill in New York State.

         3       And I appreciate that we need to move

         4       negotiations with the Governor and the

         5       Assembly and the Senate.  But handing us a

         6       bill that addresses none of the concerns from

         7       the past, that actually doesn't recognize the

         8       new information we have about the dangers of

         9       siting nuclear power plants, the even newer

        10       information we have, if you read the New York 

        11       Times this weekend, that the Nuclear

        12       Regulatory Commission is doing an

        13       exceptionally bad job at regulating nuclear

        14       energy in this country and therefore states

        15       need to take it upon themselves to be much

        16       more careful and wary in regulation and

        17       oversight of new and existing nuclear power

        18       plants.

        19                  That we should make it explicit

        20       that you cannot build coal plants in this

        21       state.  And we should make it explicit that

        22       there are certain numbers of the maximum

        23       megawatts that we will allow in a bill.  We

        24       should make it explicit as to not being able

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         1       geographic areas.  We should make it explicit

         2       that because of environmental justice concerns

         3       that too many of the dirty plants get located

         4       in the poorest communities.

         5                  We should make it explicit that

         6       New York State is going to be watching

         7       carefully and making sure that any plant that

         8       is built in the State of New York has the

         9       cleanest technology possible and is sited in

        10       the fairest process possible.

        11                  So I think we can get there,

        12       Mr. President.  I do.  But I don't see how I

        13       could vote yes on this bill that doesn't even

        14       walk us down the road farther than the bill

        15       that sunsetted that I think many of my

        16       colleagues on both sides of the aisle didn't

        17       recognize or support as being a 21st-century

        18       model of siting new power plants in the State

        19       of New York.  So I'll be voting no.

        20                  Thank you very much, Mr. President.

        21                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Thank

        22       you, Senator Krueger.

        23                  Senator Diaz on the bill.

        24                  SENATOR DIAZ:    Thank you,

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         1                  I just would like to express my

         2       appreciation to Senator Liz Krueger for

         3       standing on behalf of communities that are

         4       suffering, communities that are being subject

         5       of this kind of miniplants that on a daily

         6       basis are emitting pollution.

         7                  Especially, Senator Krueger, I

         8       would like to thank you for standing up for my

         9       community.  The one that I represent, the

        10       South Bronx, is one -- is the biggest

        11       community with asthma rates in the United

        12       States, and these kind of miniplants are

        13       contributing to that.

        14                  When they say that they will not

        15       pass 80 megawatts, it is -- there's a trick

        16       there.  Because what they do -- see,

        17       Mr. President, in Queens, when you cross the

        18       river from Queens to Hunts Point, it's less

        19       than one mile.  Less than one mile when you

        20       cross -- but you got a plant in Queens and one

        21       other one in the Bronx.  So they say that both

        22       of them, they don't pass the 80 megawatts.

        23       The only thing is that they circumvent that

        24       limit by making plants with 79 megawatts.  So

        25       by doing that, they are not violating the law,



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         1       because the law said that they cannot go over

         2       80 megawatts at that close distance.

         3                  But that's what happened to our

         4       people.  They're killing our people with this

         5       thing.

         6                  And I am proud to stand here next

         7       to Ms. Krueger.  We have many differences, Liz

         8       Krueger and myself, in many different -- in

         9       two issues.  Not in many issues, in two

        10       issues.  But today I have to say that I'm

        11       honored and I appreciate, Liz Krueger, you are

        12       standing up for people in my district that

        13       need all of us to stand by them and to bring

        14       them a better environment, better health,

        15       better air, and stop this thing.

        16                  So I'm voting no on this bill.

        17       Thank you.

        18                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        19       Gianaris.

        20                  SENATOR GIANARIS:    Thank you,

        21       Mr. President.  On the bill.

        22                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    On the

        23       bill.

        24                  SENATOR GIANARIS:    I want to

        25       stand in solidarity with my colleagues



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         1       Senator Diaz and Senator Liz Krueger.

         2                  The issue of power-plant siting is

         3       one that is very dear to me.  I represent a

         4       Senate district that produces over 60 percent

         5       of the electricity that powers New York City

         6       on a daily basis.  For some reason the power

         7       industry has decided that western Queens is

         8       among the most welcoming places for its

         9       facilities.  Unfortunately, that has some

        10       significant health consequences for the people

        11       that live there.

        12                  Senator Diaz referenced the high

        13       asthma rates in the South Bronx.  Well, as he

        14       also mentioned, northwest Queens and the South

        15       Bronx are separated only by a small piece of

        16       the East River.  And so many of the health

        17       effects that are experienced there are also

        18       experienced in western Queens and, not

        19       coincidentally, in some communities that are

        20       of lower income and communities of color.

        21       Which was actually proven 10 years ago in a

        22       lawsuit that was filed against the

        23       minigenerators that have been referenced

        24       throughout the debate on the floor today.

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         1       significant for me because it was an agency of

         2       our government -- it wasn't even a private

         3       company -- that exploited that loophole

         4       10 years ago and dropped eleven 79.9-megawatt

         5       facilities throughout the City of New York,

         6       completely avoiding scrutiny under the

         7       then-existing Article X.

         8                  There is also no provision in this

         9       bill that would adequately deal with

        10       communities that have been overburdened and

        11       carrying more than their fair share of the

        12       burden for the power production in New York.

        13                  I would prefer to see something in

        14       the bill that would insist upon a net

        15       emissions reduction in communities that are

        16       overburdened, should there be any new

        17       facilities approved.  I would prefer to see

        18       the threshold number reduced from 80 megawatts

        19       to protect these communities.

        20                  I appreciate that the sponsor has

        21       indicated this is a first step in a

        22       negotiation that will likely yield different

        23       results by the time something is enacted.  But

        24       the fact is, as the bill stands today before

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         1       comfortable supporting.  And I will be voting

         2       no and encourage my colleagues to do the same.

         3                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Is

         4       there any other Senator wishing to be heard?

         5                  Hearing none and seeing none,

         6       debate is closed.  The Secretary will ring the

         7       bell.

         8                  The Secretary will read the last

         9       section.

        10                  THE SECRETARY:    Section 10.  This

        11       act shall take effect immediately.

        12                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call

        13       the roll.

        14                  (The Secretary called the roll.)

        15                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

        16       Maziarz to explain his vote.

        17                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    Thank you very

        18       much, Mr. President.  To explain my vote.

        19                  First I want to thank my cosponsor,

        20       Senator Kevin Parker, on this particular piece

        21       of legislation --

        22                  (Audience reaction.)

        23                  SENATOR MAZIARZ:    -- Senator

        24       Kevin Parker, my cosponsor, the ranking member

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         1       Energy Committee, and also Senator Tom O'Mara,

         2       who worked on this issue very diligently with

         3       me.

         4                  I do want to -- during the course

         5       of the debate, Mr. President, the year 2020

         6       was mentioned, as we won't have any problems

         7       until 2020.  Well, if we're going to have

         8       problems in 2020, we can't start building in

         9       2019.  And by the way, the ISO would disagree

        10       with that 2020 estimate.  They think it's more

        11       like 2015.

        12                  And it's going to be mostly --

        13       mostly the immediate impact, immediate

        14       negative impact of the lack of generation is

        15       going to be in the City of New York, in some

        16       of the neighborhoods that were mentioned.

        17                  Now, clearly everyone is concerned

        18       about the health and welfare of all

        19       communities in this state.  There is not a

        20       power plant that could be built in this state

        21       that is going to have harmful effects to any

        22       particular neighborhood.  The DEC, the

        23       regulators, the Governor, the people who sit

        24       on both sides of the aisle in this house would

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         1                  My colleague Senator Krueger

         2       mentioned about how the Southwest of the

         3       United States has become much more

         4       energy-proficient, maybe, has made a lot of

         5       positive steps toward generation.  Senator,

         6       they did that primarily by licensing,

         7       developing, and building nuclear power plants.

         8       So certainly I think that would be very

         9       difficult under this piece of legislation

        10       because I don't think -- the siting would be

        11       nearly impossible given all the federal

        12       regulations and the timing of recent events.

        13                  So I just think that this is a very

        14       important piece of legislation.  We see now,

        15       Mr. President, how generation is coming more

        16       and more from out-of-state.  We saw the mayor

        17       of the City of New York and the New York Power

        18       Authority making an agreement with a company

        19       in New Jersey to import power into the City of

        20       New York.  You know how that power is going to

        21       be generated in New Jersey?  Almost

        22       exclusively from coal plants.

        23                  Now, the coal -- the poor air

        24       doesn't know the state boundaries.  We have to

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         1       New York.

         2                  Thank you very much, Mr. President.

         3       I vote in the affirmative.

         4                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

         5       Maziarz to be recorded in the affirmative.

         6                  Senator O'Mara to explain his vote.

         7                  SENATOR O'MARA:    Thank you,

         8       Mr. President.  I rise to explain my vote in

         9       support of this legislation, something I

        10       worked on with Senator Maziarz and appreciate

        11       his leadership on this issue.

        12                  I spent six years in the Assembly

        13       as a sponsor and cosponsor of this

        14       legislation, a few of those years as ranking

        15       minority member in the Assembly working to

        16       move this forward.

        17                  We've waited eight years now since

        18       the expiration of Article X in New York State.

        19       We need this power generation.  And we've seen

        20       the results of not having Article X, which was

        21       renowned in the country for being a leader and

        22       a model for energy power plant siting in the

        23       country.

        24                  And we've failed to renew that over

        25       the past eight years, keeping up with our



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         1       demands in this state to meet the needs of our

         2       residents, of our consumers of electricity,

         3       and our businesses so we can supply

         4       electricity at an affordable rate in this

         5       state.

         6                  We've fallen further and further

         7       behind without moving this legislation

         8       forward.  I'm proud to support it today.

         9                  We need to work further, as well,

        10       on Article VII legislation so that we can get

        11       the power from where it's produced to where

        12       it's needed and maybe avoid some of the

        13       problems that have been raised by the other

        14       side of the aisle on this matter.

        15                  But it's a complex matter that we

        16       need to move forward on and not sit back and

        17       wait till somebody else acts.  Because if we

        18       sit back and wait for conservation methods --

        19       which are great -- they're not going to meet

        20       our demands.  We're not going to keep up.  And

        21       as Senator Maziarz said, it's going to be too

        22       late to site a power plant even under

        23       Article X at that point to meet our demands in

        24       the future.

        25                  So I vote in support of this



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         1       legislation.  Thank you, Mr. President.

         2                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Senator

         3       O'Mara to be recorded in the affirmative.

         4                  Announce the results.

         5                  THE SECRETARY:    In relation to

         6       Calendar Number 406, those recorded in the

         7       negative are Senators Adams, Addabbo, Avella,

         8       Breslin, Diaz, Dilan, Duane, Espaillat,

         9       Gianaris, Hassell-Thompson, L. Krueger,

        10       C. Kruger, LaValle, Montgomery, Oppenheimer,

        11       Peralta, Rivera, Sampson, Serrano, Squadron,

        12       Stavisky and Stewart-Cousins.

        13                  Absent from voting:  Senators

        14       Parker and Huntley.

        15                  Ayes, 37.  Nays, 22.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

        17       bill is passed.

        18                  Senator Libous.

        19                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you,

        20       Mr. President.

        21                  Mr. President, is there any further

        22       business at this desk?

        23                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    There

        24       is no further business before the desk,

        25       Senator Libous.



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         1                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Mr. President,

         2       there is one other piece of business that you

         3       might want me to do.

         4                  Senator Skelos would like to hand

         5       up the following committee assignment,

         6       Mr. President.  Could you have it please

         7       filed.

         8                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    The

         9       notice will be filed in the Journal.

        10                  Senator Libous.

        11                  SENATOR LIBOUS:    Thank you,

        12       Mr. President.

        13                  There being no further business

        14       before the Senate today, the Senate will

        15       adjourn until Tuesday, May 10th, at 3:00 p.m.

        16                  ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    On

        17       motion, the Senate stands adjourned until

        18       Tuesday, May 10th, at 3:00 p.m.

        19                  (Whereupon, at 4:11 p.m., the

        20       Senate adjourned.)

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