Regular Session - June 14, 2011

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 1              NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4             THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                  June 14, 2011

11                   12:30 p.m.

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14                 REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR CARL L. MARCELLINO, Acting President

19  FRANCIS W. PATIENCE, Secretary

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 1              P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

 3   The Senate will come to order, please.  

 4                Can we all rise and join with me 

 5   in the Pledge of Allegiance to our Flag.

 6                (Whereupon, the assemblage 

 7   recited the Pledge of Allegiance to the 

 8   Flag.)

 9                (Whereupon, the New York Army 

10   National Guard Color Guard entered the 

11   chamber and presented colors, and 

12   Staff Sergeant Brooke Leavitt sang 

13   "The Star-Spangled Banner.")  

14                (Applause.)  

15                (Whereupon, the Color Guard 

16   posted colors, presented arms, and marched to 

17   the back of the chamber.)  

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

19   Our invocation will be read by Colonel Eric 

20   Olsen, chaplain of the New York State 

21   Division of Military and Naval Affairs.               

22                CHAPLAIN OLSEN:   Let us pray.  

23                Gracious and ever-living God, as 

24   citizens of a just and caring nation we know 

25   You by different names, worship You in 

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 1   different fashions, and understand the call 

 2   to service through personal devotion.  

 3                As this body gathers together 

 4   today in the spirit of service for the good 

 5   of our state, we ask for Your hand of 

 6   selfless and wise guidance to help in the 

 7   decisions made.  Let all that is done here 

 8   reflect the principles and ideals which have 

 9   long guided our vision to be a good, 

10   productive, and peaceful people.  

11                We ask Your divine blessing upon 

12   our Governor, our Senators and legislators as 

13   they bear the often difficult responsibility 

14   of leadership.  Bless too all that support 

15   and encourage them in their tasks.

16                Finally, Lord, as we celebrate 

17   the anniversary of our nation's Army and 

18   celebrate Flag Day, as we honor the men and 

19   women who stand and have stood to defend the 

20   rights and principles we as a nation hold to 

21   be true, let this body remember that there 

22   are consequences to all that we do and that 

23   leadership requires the highest ideal of 

24   conscience and character.  May that ideal 

25   never diminish from those who have been given 

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 1   the power to rule.  

 2                Please bless our nation, the good 

 3   she brings throughout the world, and those who 

 4   serve her.  In Your holy name we pray, amen.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

 6   Senator Libous.

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

 8   could I ask at this time unanimous consent by the 

 9   body time for Colonel Migaleddi to please address 

10   the body at this time.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   With 

12   unanimous consent, we invite Colonel Migaleddi to 

13   come up and address the house.  

14                COLONEL MIGALEDDI:   Majority Leader 

15   Skelos, Minority Leader Sampson, Senators, 

16   veterans, and other distinguished guests, thank 

17   you very much.  Again I have an opportunity to 

18   talk to you today.  It's not a bad dream; I'm 

19   back.  And to be in such an honored place is an 

20   honor.  

21                On June 14, 1775, at the outbreak of 

22   the Revolutionary War, the Army was established 

23   by a resolution of the Continental Congress and 

24   the 13 colonies that would become the United 

25   States of America.  

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 1                The strength of an infant nation was 

 2   its Army.  The strength of our Army was the 

 3   soldiers and their families who fought to form a 

 4   more perfect union, the United States of 

 5   America.  Brave militiamen, many from New York, 

 6   fought to defend the freedoms and defeat 

 7   injustice for a new nation to beat the 

 8   oppression.  Wives and daughters tended the 

 9   wounded, the injured, manned cannons for the new 

10   Continental Army.  

11                In the next 236 years, soldiers 

12   continued to maintain the highest strength and 

13   character and resolve.  But much has changed 

14   since the Army of 1775 when our Army was once 

15   untrained farmers, merchants, and tradesmen who 

16   used their own rifles.  What has not changed, 

17   however, is the fighting spirit and the values of 

18   the American soldier.  From the Battle of 

19   Saratoga to the Battle of Kandahar, your Army has 

20   carried the warrior spirit with them.  

21                On the occasion of the Army's 

22   birthday, on behalf of the soldiers, I thank you 

23   for New York's 236 years of support for our 

24   Army.  You are part of the United States Army.  

25   You are part of our nation, the strength of the 

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 1   nation, the United States Army.  

 2                Thank you, and God bless New York 

 3   State and the United States of America.

 4                (Applause.)

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   We 

 6   thank the commander and all of our honored 

 7   guests, the veterans who served this state and 

 8   this nation and have protected our freedoms over 

 9   the years.

10                The reading of the Journal, please. 

11                THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

12   June 13th, the Senate met pursuant to 

13   adjournment.  The Journal of Sunday, June 12th, 

14   was read and approved.  On motion, Senate 

15   adjourned.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

17   Without objection, the Journal stands approved as 

18   read 

19                Presentation of petitions.

20                Messages from the Assembly.

21                The Secretary will read.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Senator DeFrancisco 

23   moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

24   Assembly Bill Number 7388 and substitute it for 

25   the identical Senate Bill Number 3947, Third 

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 1   Reading Calendar 350.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:  

 3   Substitution ordered.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   On page 40, Senator 

 5   Martins moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 6   Local Government, Assembly Bill Number 6462 and 

 7   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 8   Number 5002, Third Reading Calendar 647.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

10   Substitution ordered.

11                THE SECRETARY:   On page 41, Senator 

12   LaValle moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

13   Higher Education, Assembly Bill Number 2718 and 

14   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

15   Number 2410, Third Reading Calendar 658.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

17   Substitution ordered.

18                THE SECRETARY:   On page 41, Senator 

19   LaValle moves to discharge, from the Committee On 

20   Environmental Conservation, Assembly Bill Number 

21   4786 and substitute it for the identical Senate 

22   Bill Number 3421, Third Reading Calendar 685.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

24   Substitution ordered.

25                THE SECRETARY:   On page 59, Senator 

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 1   Ball moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 2   Veterans, Homeland Security and Military Affairs, 

 3   Assembly Bill Number 6383 and substitute it for 

 4   the identical Senate Bill Number 5432, Third 

 5   Reading Calendar 985.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

 7   Substitution ordered.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   On page 62, Senator 

 9   Grisanti moves to discharge, from the Committee 

10   on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 7570 and 

11   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

12   Number 5342, Third Reading Calendar 1010.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

14   Substitution is ordered.

15                THE SECRETARY:   On page 62, Senator 

16   Little moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

17   Cultural Affairs, Tourism, and Parks and 

18   Recreation, Assembly Bill Number 7279 and 

19   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

20   Number 5372, Third Reading Calendar 1011.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

22   Substitution is ordered.

23                THE SECRETARY:   On page 62, Senator 

24   Libous moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

25   Cultural Affairs, Tourism and Parks and 

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 1   Recreation, Assembly Bill Number 6299A and 

 2   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 3   Number 5534, Third Reading Calendar 1012.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

 5   Substitution is ordered.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   On page 63, Senator 

 7   Larkin moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 8   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 3152 and substitute 

 9   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 5437, 

10   Third Reading Calendar 1017.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

12   Substitution is ordered.

13                THE SECRETARY:   On page 64, Senator 

14   Gallivan moves to discharge, from the Committee 

15   on Elections, Assembly Bill Number 7453A and 

16   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

17   Number 5385, Third Reading Calendar 1031.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

19   Substitution is ordered.

20                THE SECRETARY:   On page 65, Senator 

21   Oppenheimer moves to discharge, from the 

22   Committee on Higher Education, Assembly Bill 

23   Number 2502A and substitute it for the identical 

24   Senate Bill Number 3469A, Third Reading Calendar 

25   1154.

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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

 2   Substitution is ordered.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   On page 66, Senator 

 4   Golden moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 5   Local Government, Assembly Bill Number 6923 and 

 6   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 7   Number 4780, Third Reading Calendar 1159.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

 9   Substitution is ordered.

10                THE SECRETARY:   On page 67, Senator 

11   Savino moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

12   Children and Families, Assembly Bill Number 7520 

13   and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

14   Number 5582, Third Reading Calendar 1174.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

16   Substitution is ordered.

17                THE SECRETARY:   On page 37, Senator 

18   Fuschillo moves to discharge, from the Committee 

19   on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 7751A and 

20   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

21   Number 5234A, Third Reading Calendar 607.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

23   Substitution is ordered.

24                THE SECRETARY:   On page 67, Senator 

25   Saland moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

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 1   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 7930 and substitute 

 2   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 5542, 

 3   Third Reading Calendar 1169.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

 5   Substitution is ordered.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   And on page 68, 

 7   Senator Golden moves to discharge, from the 

 8   Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 7834 and 

 9   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

10   Number 5651, Third Reading Calendar 1180.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

12   Substitution is ordered.

13                Messages from the Governor.

14                Reports of standing committees.

15                Reports of select committees.

16                Communications and reports from 

17   state officers.

18                Motions and resolutions.

19                Senator Libous.

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

21   thank you.

22                On behalf of Senator Saland, on 

23   page 54 I offer the following amendments to 

24   Calendar Number 915, Senate Print 4530, and ask 

25   that said bill retain its place on the Third 

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 1   Reading Calendar.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

 3   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

 4   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

 6   Senator Johnson -- he has a number -- I move that 

 7   the following bills be discharged from their 

 8   respective committees and be recommitted with 

 9   instructions to strike the enacting clause:  

10   2632, 2634, 2636 and 2666.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   So 

12   ordered.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

14   Senator Golden, on page 34 I offer the following 

15   amendments to Calendar Number 553, Senate Print 

16   4507A, and ask that said bill retain its place on 

17   the Third Reading Calendar.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

19   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

20   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   And, 

22   Mr. President, on behalf of Senator Griffo, on 

23   page 58 I offer the following amendments to 

24   Calendar Number 967, Senate Print 3322A, and ask 

25   that said bill retain its place on the Third 

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 1   Reading Calendar.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

 3   amendments are accepted, and the bill will retain 

 4   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

 6   this time could we please adopt the Resolution 

 7   Calendar, with the exception of the following 

 8   resolutions:  2233, 2277, and 2475.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Move 

10   to adopt the Resolution Calendar with the 

11   exception of resolutions 2233, 2277, and 2475.  

12   All in favor signify by saying aye.

13                (Response of "Aye.")

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

15   Opposed, nay.

16                (No response.)

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

18   ayes have it.  The Resolution Calendar is 

19   adopted.

20                Senator.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

22   this time I believe Resolution 2277 is at the 

23   desk.  I would ask that the Clerk please read it 

24   in its entirety.  At the conclusion of reading 

25   the resolution, please call on Senator Ball and 

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 1   then Senator Breslin.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

 3   Secretary will read.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

 5   Resolution Number 2277, by Senator Skelos, 

 6   honoring the distinguished veterans from the 

 7   State of New York upon the occasion of their 

 8   induction into the New York State Senate Veterans 

 9   Hall of Fame, to be celebrated on June 14, 2011.  

10                "WHEREAS, Members of the Armed 

11   Services from the State of New York, who have 

12   served so valiantly and honorably in wars in 

13   which this country's freedom was at stake, as 

14   well as in the preservation of peace in 

15   peacetime, deserve a special salute from this 

16   Legislative Body; and 

17                "WHEREAS, Attendant to such concern, 

18   and in full accord with its long-standing 

19   traditions, this Legislative Body is justly proud 

20   to honor the distinguished veterans from the 

21   State of New York upon the occasion of their 

22   induction into the New York State Senate Veterans 

23   Hall of Fame , to be celebrated on June 14, 2011; 

24   and 

25                "WHEREAS, The New York State Senate 

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 1   Veterans Hall of Fame inductees are members of 

 2   any branch of the United States Armed Forces, 

 3   which include Army, Navy, Coast Guard, Air Force, 

 4   and Marine Corps.  These exceptional men and 

 5   women are chosen for this prestigious honor based 

 6   on either service in combat or notable work 

 7   performed after discharge from the service; and 

 8                "WHEREAS, The 2011 inductees 

 9   include:  Nicholas A. Verzella, James E. Prevete, 

10   Karl R. Rohde, Charles Eustis, Colonel Charlie 

11   Johnson, Howard Goldin, Charles Murphy, Pete 

12   Leon, Martin Treat, Merlin German, James A. 

13   Wilson, William Beatty, George A. Jones, Mark P. 

14   O'Brien, George R. Broadhead, Herbert C. Thorpe, 

15   Michael Lewandowski, Jackie L. Wilson, John T. 

16   Digilio, Jr., Sandra Jablonski Bourque, Eugene  

17   Bryant, Jordan Czerniawski, William O. Stratis, 

18   Eugene G. Smith, John Czuhanich, Harold G. 

19   Cronin, Richard Evers, John S. Davanzo, Margaret 

20   Gill, Clarence Dart, John Barwinczok, Philip C. 

21   Smith, William Capodanno, Rev. Dr. Glyger G. 

22   Beach, Anthony Caminiti, Ronald J. Pilozzi, John 

23   M. Canale, Ken Moore, Michael Burke, Corey 

24   Pegues, John P. Nowhitney, John F. Barry, Sharon 

25   Sweeting-Lindsey, Roberta A. Goldenberg, Albert 

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 1   Paviglianti, Anthony J. Costanza, and George W. 

 2   Egan.  In addition, special recognition goes to 

 3   Michael P. Murphy and Douglas J. Glover; and 

 4                "WHEREAS, The banner of freedom will 

 5   always wave over our beloved New York and all of 

 6   America, the Land of the Free and the Home of the 

 7   Brave; and 

 8                "WHEREAS, The freedoms and security 

 9   we cherish as Americans come at a very high price 

10   for those serving in the military in times of 

11   conflict.  It is fitting and proper that we who 

12   are the beneficiaries of those who risk their 

13   lives must never forget the courage with which 

14   these men and women served their country; and 

15                "WHEREAS, Our nation's veterans 

16   deserve to be recognized, commended and thanked 

17   by the people of the State of New York for their 

18   service and for their dedication to their 

19   communities, their state, and their nation; now, 

20   therefore, be it 

21                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

22   Body pause in its deliberations to honor the 

23   distinguished veterans from the State of New York 

24   upon the occasion of their induction into the 

25   New York State Senate Veterans Hall of Fame to be 

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 1   celebrated on June 14, 2011; and be it further 

 2                "RESOLVED, That copies of this 

 3   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 

 4   the 2011 inductees."

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   To be 

 6   heard on the resolution, Senator Ball.

 7                SENATOR BALL:   There's a quote at 

 8   the United States Air Force Academy, at West 

 9   Point, Naval Academy, all the military 

10   academies.  You have to remember, plebe year, 

11   your first summer, a book full of information.  

12   And there's a quote that always sticks out in my 

13   brain by General Norman Schwarzkopf, "Stormin' 

14   Norman," who was an amazing leader, and I'd like 

15   to share it today.  

16                "A professional soldier understands 

17   that war means killing, war means maiming, war 

18   means families left without fathers and mothers.  

19   All you have to do is hold your first dying 

20   soldier in your arms and have that terribly 

21   futile feeling that his life is flowing out and 

22   you can do nothing about it.  Then you understand 

23   the horror of war.  Any soldier worth his salt 

24   should be antiwar.  And still, there are things 

25   worth fighting for."  

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 1                We live in the greatest nation that 

 2   this world has ever known.  And to the veterans, 

 3   to the honorees that are here today and to the 

 4   veterans throughout this state, I stand before 

 5   you on behalf of this body -- I know I'm joined 

 6   by every single one of my colleagues -- thanking 

 7   you from the absolute bottom of my heart.  

 8                And to those who never had the 

 9   opportunity to serve, it must be pointed out 

10   today, we must remember that regardless of 

11   whether it was a combat vet or somebody who 

12   served in a support role, all veterans are united 

13   in one common reality.  Our veterans all raised 

14   their right hand and were willing, if called upon 

15   by this nation -- and many were -- were willing 

16   to fight and die in the service of this nation.

17                We have a responsibility to ensure 

18   that the United States of America continues to be 

19   strong, not only as Americans but because that 

20   American flag that stands in this chamber today 

21   and that American flag that is worn by many of 

22   the veterans and that American flag that is on 

23   the shoulders of the active-duty servicemen and 

24   women, to this very day, where 1 percent of our 

25   population carries the weight of the rest of our 

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 1   society -- and it was servicemen that brought 

 2   about and killed Osama bin Laden.  It is 

 3   servicemen that find maps to subways in New York 

 4   City in caves and countries that many of us 

 5   cannot pick out on a map.  

 6                That American flag represents the 

 7   greatest sense of hope and opportunity that this 

 8   world has ever known.  And it's American 

 9   servicemen and women who represent hope and 

10   opportunity to, yes, young children and women in 

11   Iraq, to countries that many of us will never 

12   visit, to communities that, yes, we cannot pick 

13   out on a map.  Never is a day to be an apologetic 

14   American.  

15                And to all the veterans who are here 

16   today, thank you from the bottom of our heart, 

17   because we stand on your shoulders.  And it is 

18   your leadership that cut a pathway for an 

19   American democracy and for future generations.  

20                God bless, and thank you all for 

21   being here today.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

23   you, Senator Ball.

24                On the resolution, Senator Breslin.

25                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Thank you very 

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 1   much, Mr. President.

 2                As we celebrate this 236th 

 3   anniversary of the formation of the United States 

 4   Army, and as we as the Senate body celebrate the 

 5   achievements of veterans from across this state, 

 6   I think it's fitting to mention that in this body 

 7   as we approach the closing date, as we debate 

 8   ideas, debate points of view, debate specific 

 9   bills, Republicans and Democrats, battling but 

10   not really battling -- and we're allowed to have 

11   this open debate, this free and open debate, only 

12   because our veterans have preserved that right 

13   for us.  Without it, we would be like any other 

14   country, subject to prejudice against wars, 

15   subject to one party dominating in a total 

16   undemocratic way.  

17                And we've had the ability in this 

18   house earlier today to celebrate the achievements 

19   of many veterans from across this state.  My 

20   veteran, who's up in the crowd, served in 

21   Vietnam, a West Point graduate who's accomplished 

22   a great, Colonel Charles Johnson.  And each and 

23   every member of this house has their own story 

24   about their veteran.  

25                But we must remember that freedom is 

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 1   not free.  We have that freedom to be here and 

 2   debate because of our veterans.  And I salute 

 3   each and every one of them for allowing the 

 4   preservation of what we are able to accomplish on 

 5   this floor, because it's only because of them we 

 6   are able to do it.

 7                Thank you, Mr. President.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

 9   you, Senator Breslin.

10                On the resolution, Senator 

11   Fuschillo.

12                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:   Thank you very 

13   much, Mr. President.

14                Today was a great day.  Every single 

15   day we read in the papers and we see on TV really 

16   what's wrong with this country.  But I want to 

17   thank my colleague Senator Ball for his 

18   leadership today, and Senator Skelos, with the 

19   ceremony that we just came from where we honored 

20   some distinguished men and women who have really 

21   served this country.  And today they showed 

22   what's great with our state and with our nation.  

23                And I had the pleasure of nominating 

24   Brigadier General George A. Jones as my inductee 

25   in the Veterans Hall of Fame with great pride and 

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 1   distinction.  He, like all the veterans today, 

 2   has dedicated his life not only to his community 

 3   but to our country.  And for me to stand up and 

 4   say thanks, Mr. Jones, thank you for your courage 

 5   and for your commitment to our country.  And I 

 6   salute you, my friend.  God bless you.  

 7                Thank you very much, Mr. President.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

 9   you, Senator.

10                Senator Huntley.

11                SENATOR HUNTLEY:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.  

13                I would like to welcome my honoree, 

14   Jackie L. Wilson, who is sitting up there.  

15   Jackie, please stand up.  He is an amazing 

16   person.  He served 24 years in the United States 

17   Army.  And every time I spoke to him down through 

18   the years, he was getting ready to go to another 

19   country.  And it seems like, my conversations 

20   with him, he was happy to be doing that.  

21                He is a true, true American.  Not 

22   only the Army, but back home in Laurelton, 

23   New York, where he resides with his lovely wife, 

24   he has been an amazing person with young people.  

25   He's on another career.  He's teaching, Junior 

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 1   High School 231, which is in my district.  

 2                And I am just so happy to have him 

 3   here.  And I said to him today when I first saw 

 4   him -- and if you all look, you will see -- I 

 5   said, "How handsome you look today."  You are a 

 6   true American, and I love you for what you do.  

 7                Thank you.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

 9   you, Senator.

10                Senator Farley on the resolution.

11                SENATOR FARLEY:   I just want to 

12   rise up and thank Senator Ball and the Majority 

13   Leader for having this program.  It's one of the 

14   first.  

15                When I first came into the Senate, 

16   the halls used to be filled with veterans, 

17   particularly from the greatest generation, 

18   World War II.  And they're dying at the rate of 

19   several thousand a day now.  And it was 

20   heartwarming to see so many WWII veterans being 

21   honored today, and Korean veterans, and the 

22   forgotten war, of which I happen to be a member 

23   of, the Korean veterans.  

24                And I want to pay tribute to my 

25   awardee, Jim Wilson, who has done so much for the 

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 1   veterans.  And we have in this Capital District a 

 2   veterans cemetery at Saratoga which is absolutely 

 3   one of the most beautiful veterans cemeteries in 

 4   the United States, which he's been a large part 

 5   of.  

 6                But I think it's such a beautiful 

 7   tradition that we have started here today.  And I 

 8   hope that we can continue this in honoring 

 9   veterans every single year from now on.

10                Thank you, Mr. President.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

12   you, Senator Farley.

13                On the resolution, Senator McDonald.

14                SENATOR McDONALD:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.  

16                I have the honor today of 

17   recommending a very unique individual, Lieutenant 

18   Colonel Clarence Dart, of Saratoga Springs.  He 

19   was a member, an original member and a leader of 

20   the Tuskegee Airmen in the United States Air 

21   Force in World War II.  This individual flew in 

22   95 missions.  He was awarded five Distinguished 

23   Flying Crosses.  He was shot down twice.  

24   Somebody mentioned to me, "Can you imagine 

25   getting in an airplane after the first time you 

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 1   were shot down, going back?"  

 2                This, along with overcoming 

 3   segregation of that era of American history.  I 

 4   imagine he did it for a lot of reasons.  But the 

 5   main reason for us he did it for, because he 

 6   loved his country above everything, even with its 

 7   bad points, and he worked to make it better.  

 8                What an amazing day it was.  And I 

 9   thank the Senate and all the people involved to 

10   allow us to bring all these Americans of all 

11   different backgrounds, colors, ethnic groups, 

12   religions, but a commonality of being New Yorkers 

13   and being Americans and loving this country and 

14   doing what words don't accomplish.  They actually 

15   stepped forward when they needed to and put their 

16   life on the line.  

17                It was quite an honor being a part 

18   of this, and it's a special honor that Lieutenant 

19   Colonel Clarence Dart, who cannot be here 

20   today -- he's in a nursing home in Saratoga -- 

21   but his daughter Dawn, Dawn Ray, a local 

22   schoolteacher, is here to represent her and her 

23   wonderful family.  And what an amazing New Yorker 

24   this man is.  I'm very proud to be associated 

25   with him, and I'm very proud of what this 

                                                               4086

 1   Senate's done.

 2                Thank you.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

 4   you, Senator.

 5                Senator Martins on the resolution.

 6                SENATOR MARTINS:   Mr. President, I 

 7   too rise this afternoon to thank Senator Ball for 

 8   his initiative and to thank the Majority Leader 

 9   for bringing this program together this year.  I 

10   want to congratulate all of the honorees and 

11   thank you for your service.  

12                But in particular, in particular I 

13   want to congratulate a dear friend of mine, John 

14   Davanzo, who is a Normandy survivor.  

15                John was born in Mineola, grew up in 

16   Mineola, went off to do his duty and to fight in 

17   World War II.  After the war, came back to 

18   Mineola, where he raised his family.  He was a 

19   town councilman for the Town of North Hempstead, 

20   town clerk for decades, trustee in the Village of 

21   Mineola, a national Firefighter of the Year 

22   recipient, and a wonderful statesman for our 

23   community.  Not only did he serve his country, 

24   but he came back and continued to serve his 

25   community throughout his life and today, at the 

                                                               4087

 1   ripe almost age of 90, continues to serve his 

 2   community.  

 3                And for that I want to thank you, 

 4   John, for your lifetime of public service and 

 5   dedication not only to the country but to our 

 6   local communities.  God bless you.

 7                Thank you, Mr. President.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

 9   you, Senator.

10                On the resolution, Senator Nozzolio.

11                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.  On the resolution.  

13                I too rise and thank my colleagues 

14   who made this day possible:  Senator Ball, 

15   Senator Skelos, all members of this house who 

16   have collectively taken time to honor veterans 

17   and thank them for their service to our nation.  

18   It is indeed, as some of my colleagues have said, 

19   a great day.

20                But it is conversations to honorees 

21   who have heard them talk, as they were leaving 

22   the ceremony, how honored they were to be here 

23   and to be part of the New York State 2011 

24   Veterans Hall of Fame.  But they had indicated 

25   that their participation honors them; frankly, I 

                                                               4088

 1   believe their participation honors us and honors 

 2   those of us who are now in this deliberative body 

 3   because of their sacrifice, who are able to 

 4   debate legislation because they defended America 

 5   in time of need.  You who are there as members of 

 6   this class of veterans, we thank you and salute 

 7   you.  

 8                I want to give special thanks to 

 9   John Barwinczok, who fought in Korea, who was 

10   proudly a member of the Korean War Veterans 

11   Association and who began the Korean War Veterans 

12   Association in the Central New York area, 

13   particularly Cayuga County.

14                That the memorials that we place in 

15   honor of our veterans are a reminder to future 

16   generations that the price of freedom is one that 

17   is not free.  It is paid for by the blood and 

18   toil of our veterans.  And for that, we all thank 

19   you, we salute you, and it is you who honor us 

20   with your presence here today.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

22   you, Senator.

23                On the resolution, Senator Larkin.

24                SENATOR LARKIN:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.  

                                                               4089

 1                You know, it is a true honor to be 

 2   here today with all of our veterans.  You don't 

 3   have to be a veteran to appreciate what you stand 

 4   for.  It's a great honor to see you be able to 

 5   come.  

 6                My nominee couldn't make it today.  

 7   He's a World War II vet, and he spent 17 months 

 8   in Stalag 17.  He's a little incapacitated, he 

 9   said, at 86.  

10                And I think when we think about 

11   veterans of World War II, the Veterans 

12   Administration said there are 1100 World War II 

13   vets dying every day.  We're a breed that won't 

14   be here for too long.  

15                But when you think about it, a 

16   veteran doesn't come home and wash away.  You 

17   look at all the veterans, the committees that 

18   they do, the work that they do.  Meals on Wheels, 

19   volunteering in hospitals, volunteering at 

20   libraries.  Because they know what service is 

21   like.  And many of us that served didn't have all 

22   the service we needed, but we had one mission:  

23   We were Americans.  And we take second to nobody.

24                I saw a sweater Sunday in a parade, 

25   and I thought it was the best, I went and bought 

                                                               4090

 1   one.  It said:  "America is Free because of the 

 2   Bravest."  And that's what it's all about.  Every 

 3   one of you that were honored here today have a 

 4   story to tell, and memories many of you keep 

 5   inside.  And someday you've got to open them up, 

 6   because our children and grandchildren, they want 

 7   to know what grandpa did or grandma did or Aunt 

 8   Sue, Uncle Jack, because they appreciate it.  

 9                Today we honor you for what you've 

10   done for us.  And in honoring you, we're saying 

11   as Americans that how could we be any more proud 

12   than we are.  You, to say a cold clause, stuck 

13   your neck out for the rest of us.  

14                We now see a young breed of troops 

15   coming home, men and women, without an arm, 

16   without a leg.  At West Point a month ago there 

17   was a young woman, graduate of Notre Dame, a 

18   helicopter pilot.  She had new prostheses and was 

19   running on the track.  Someone said to her, "What 

20   would you like to do?"  She said, "I want to go 

21   back to Afghanistan.  I know exactly where I was 

22   hit, and I want to get that {coughing} son of a 

23   gun."

24                So don't ever forget it.  You're the 

25   greatest.  We're a nation that are proud.  Nobody 

                                                               4091

 1   likes war.  I've never met anyone in my 23 years 

 2   that said yippee, yippee, we're going to war.  

 3   People were going to countries they never heard 

 4   of.  As Senator Ball said, we couldn't even 

 5   pronounce or spell some of the names.  

 6                And I want to thank Senator Ball for 

 7   he and the Majority Leader's efforts to put this 

 8   together today.  You know, we hopefully are 

 9   winding down this session, but we couldn't have a 

10   session end without paying respects to you, and 

11   especially when we realize this is the 

12   236th anniversary of the United States Army.  

13   Go, Army.  

14                Thank you, Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

16   you, Senator.

17                Senator DeFrancisco on the 

18   resolution.

19                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   It's going to 

20   be a long day, so I'll be very brief.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

22   you.

23                SENATOR DEFRANCISCO:   I just wanted 

24   to echo the words of everyone else.  

25                But specifically, my honoree is 

                                                               4092

 1   Chuck Murphy.  Chuck served in Vietnam, Desert 

 2   Storm, got two Purple Hearts, a Bronze Medal, 

 3   among other awards.  But after all of that, he 

 4   came to work for me, worked for me for nine 

 5   years, took an early retirement in November at 

 6   age 61, passed away in February.  

 7                If there was ever anything in this 

 8   life that has been unfair, this is an example of 

 9   that, for all of the service that he gave to the 

10   state and the country.

11                So I'm very proud to recognize Chuck 

12   Murphy on this very special day.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

14   you, Senator.

15                Senator Zeldin on the resolution.

16                SENATOR ZELDIN:   Thank you, Senator 

17   Marcellino.  

18                And I have the honor of representing 

19   someone named George Egan.  And George is -- I 

20   met him a few years back.  He was working on a 

21   project called Balls for Baghdad.  He put 

22   together tens of thousands of golf balls and 

23   clubs and equipment with local businesses, local 

24   veterans service organizations.  And I was able 

25   to work with him in getting those balls shipped 

                                                               4093

 1   overseas to our troops.  

 2                His service not only during war and 

 3   peace in uniform but also his service since made 

 4   him a great person to honor from the Third Senate 

 5   District.  And the fact is we have so many in our 

 6   own districts that are active in different 

 7   veterans service organizations.  And they don't 

 8   get paid for it.  They do it because they love 

 9   veterans and they love our country.  And George 

10   epitomizes that spirit that is throughout our 

11   state of those who dedicate so much of their own 

12   time.  

13                But sharing the stage with George 

14   today is Lieutenant Michael Murphy.  Lieutenant 

15   Michael Murphy was from Patchogue, New York.  

16   Lieutenant Murphy is a Medal of Honor recipient, 

17   and it was well-deserved.  Lieutenant Murphy was 

18   a Navy Seal, and on June 28, 2005, he was part of 

19   a four-man Seal unit in Afghanistan.  And under 

20   heavy fire, his unit bogged down.  Having already 

21   been gravely shot, Lieutenant Murphy, knowing 

22   that death was imminent, left his safe position 

23   in order to get a signal because their radios 

24   were not operating from their position.  

25   Lieutenant Murphy risked his life to get that 

                                                               4094

 1   signal to save those of his colleagues around 

 2   him.  And unfortunately, his act of heroism cost 

 3   him his life. 

 4                There aren't many Lieutenant Murphys 

 5   that are out there.  I was proud to have served 

 6   in the military and serve today, but I have to 

 7   tell you that it's difficult to say that I share 

 8   the same stage with heroes like Lieutenant 

 9   Murphy.  

10                Right now, serving overseas in Iraq 

11   and Afghanistan and elsewhere, we have brave 

12   young men and women literally willing to lay down 

13   their life in defense of not only our freedoms, 

14   our Constitution, our liberties, but those that 

15   are left and right.  So for Lieutenant Murphy and 

16   his family, they received the Medal of Honor.  In 

17   the process, they lost Lieutenant Murphy.  But 

18   also Lieutenant Murphy's actions saved the lives 

19   of those around him.

20                I commend George Egan for everything 

21   you do to protect and defend and represent our 

22   veterans.  And I also thank Lieutenant Murphy's 

23   family for raising a true warrior and someone for 

24   all of us to be so very proud of.  

25                Thank you.

                                                               4095

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

 2   you, Senator.

 3                On the resolution, Senator 

 4   Stewart-Cousins.

 5                SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   Thank 

 6   you, Mr. President.  

 7                I rise to of course share in the 

 8   sentiments of my colleagues with regard to 

 9   thanking our veterans, all of whom have done so 

10   much for our country and for our freedom.

11                I have the honor of having one of my 

12   constituents, Colonel Theresa Mercado-Sconzo, 

13   here.  You know, Senator Ball began by quoting, 

14   saying that people get maimed and murdered.  We 

15   know how horrific war can be.  And we know how 

16   important it is to make sure that there are 

17   skilled people caring for our wounded.  

18                My colonel is a nurse.  She came 

19   into the Army Reserves in 1987, and then she 

20   became a major.  In 2009 she served on active 

21   duty in Mosul, Iraq.  She was part of Operation 

22   Iraqi Freedom.  What is also important to know 

23   about Colonel Mercado-Sconzo is that when in 2005 

24   we were all shocked at the scenes that were 

25   coming out of Abu Ghraib -- you know, the 

                                                               4096

 1   scandalous part where we heard, for the first 

 2   time, torture -- when that happened, they sent 

 3   for this colonel to do two things, to liberate 

 4   the Iraqis and to restore the honor of the United 

 5   States of America.  

 6                She provided healthcare to our 

 7   soldiers, to the Iraqi prisoners.  She helped to 

 8   restore our honor.  And we are so proud that you 

 9   are here with us today.  Thank you so much, 

10   Colonel Mercado-Sconzo.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

12   you, Senator.

13                On the resolution, Senator Johnson.

14                SENATOR JOHNSON:   Thank you.  It 

15   was a privilege and a pleasure for me to welcome 

16   General John Digilio, a constituent of mine, to 

17   the ceremony today.  

18                When he was a youngster in 1967, he 

19   went to college and joined the ROTC.  Before you 

20   know it, he was in the Army, he was in Vietnam.  

21   And he got out of Vietnam after some period of 

22   years and then came back home and joined the New 

23   York State Guard, the National Guard, and served 

24   in many positions over many years.

25                I just wrote a few words here.  He's 

                                                               4097

 1   graduated the U.S. Army War College, Command and 

 2   General Staff College, National Security 

 3   Management Program, Reserve Component National 

 4   Security Course of the National Defense 

 5   University.  He's been awarded over 

 6   24 decorations, including the Legion of Merit, 

 7   Bronze Star Medal, Meritorious Unit Citation, 

 8   Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry with Palm, and 

 9   New York Army National Guard Conspicuous Service 

10   Medal.  

11                So this gentleman certainly deserves 

12   the appellation from all people who know that the 

13   military is there for us.  And this gentleman has 

14   a commendable record, and I was very pleased to 

15   nominate Brigadier General John T. Digilio.  He's 

16   up here with his wife, Diane, waiting for me to 

17   say some nice words.  And I hope I've done 

18   enough.  

19                Thank you.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

21   you, Senator.

22                Senator Seward on the resolution.

23                SENATOR SEWARD:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.  

25                I'm certainly very honored to stand 

                                                               4098

 1   to also pay tribute to our veterans who are today 

 2   being inducted into the New York State Senate 

 3   Veterans Hall of Fame.  Certainly our 

 4   veterans are very deserving of the accolades they 

 5   are receiving today.  It takes a very special 

 6   person to put their life on the line for their 

 7   country.  So I commend all of the honorees for 

 8   your dedication, your service, and your 

 9   sacrifice.

10                And I was particularly proud earlier 

11   today to stand with a veteran from my district, 

12   John Nowhitney, who served during World War II in 

13   the United States Navy.  And John is in the 

14   gallery with his family.  

15                John I would describe as being a 

16   true American hero.  He risked his life to help 

17   secure the freedoms and liberties that all enjoy 

18   each and every day, but also he protected those 

19   that he served with in the Navy.  He spent his 

20   time on the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Belleau 

21   Wood.  

22                And I would just cite two quick 

23   examples of what I'm saying about John 

24   Nowhitney's record in the Navy.  On August 30, 

25   1944, an airplane crashed on the flight deck of 

                                                               4099

 1   the Belleau Wood, and John rushed to the burning 

 2   plane and cut the unconscious pilot free, thus 

 3   saving his life.  And another very highly charged 

 4   event occurred in October of 1944 when a 

 5   500-pound bomb fill out of a plane onto the 

 6   carrier's deck.  John unscrewed the detonator 

 7   from the bomb and threw it over the side of the 

 8   ship, saving countless numbers of lives of his 

 9   comrades.

10                So it is a fact that John 

11   Nowhitney's service helped many come back, many 

12   of his comrades come back to their families 

13   because of his heroic actions.  

14                So to John Nowhitney, I just want to 

15   say how proud we are of you and your service, and 

16   I am delighted that you are now a member of the 

17   New York State Senate Veterans Hall of Fame.  

18   Congratulations, John, to you and your entire 

19   family.

20                Thank you, Mr. President.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

22   you, Senator Seward.

23                Senator Saland on the resolution.

24                SENATOR SALAND:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.  

                                                               4100

 1                We've certainly heard from a number 

 2   of colleagues who stood before us today and with 

 3   great pride and sincerity spoke of the 

 4   contributions and service of any number of 

 5   distinguished men and women who have served their 

 6   country so admirably and so notably.

 7                I'd be remiss if I didn't 

 8   acknowledge what we all take for granted, our 

 9   friend and colleague Colonel Larkin, who with 

10   great passion and such intense dedication has 

11   committed himself to veterans issues as far back 

12   as I can remember -- and he and I have been 

13   colleagues for over 30 years -- and I suspect for 

14   at least another 30 more will be as passionate 

15   about working on behalf of veterans.

16                I have the good fortune of being 

17   able to recognize and honor a distinguished 

18   gentleman from my district, Michael Burke, a man 

19   who served in the United States Army during 

20   Vietnam, a man who during the course of his 

21   service was much decorated, receiving not one but 

22   two Purple Hearts as well as a Bronze Star among 

23   the many recognitions and citations and 

24   commendations that he received, and a man who was 

25   severely injured during his service to his nation 

                                                               4101

 1   and, notwithstanding the seriousness of his 

 2   injuries, a man who continued to press on, a man 

 3   who overcame those very serious injuries to 

 4   contribute considerably not merely to the 

 5   well-being of his family -- and his wife and one 

 6   of his five children are here with him today -- 

 7   but also to his community.  

 8                He managed to overcome the many 

 9   challenges with which he had been presented to 

10   have a long and successful career with IBM, and 

11   has since devoted himself not merely to the 

12   community but particularly to his fellow 

13   veterans, working tirelessly on their behalf 

14   through the Veterans of Foreign Wars and through 

15   a variety of positions that he has held in that 

16   quest.  

17                He's a credit not only to his 

18   country, but he's a credit to his family and 

19   certainly he is a credit to those of us who have 

20   had the good fortune of having him serve on our 

21   behalf.

22                Thank you, Mr. President.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

24   you, Senator Saland.

25                On the resolution, Senator 

                                                               4102

 1   Ranzenhofer.

 2                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.  

 4                I would also like to join my 

 5   colleagues and congratulate Senator Ball and 

 6   Senator Skelos for helping put together this 

 7   year's New York State Veterans Hall of Fame.

 8                One of the things I think that marks 

 9   all the veterans and the veteran that I 

10   recommended, Ron Pilozzi, who's sitting up in the 

11   gallery, is when I called him up and mentioned 

12   this to him, he was just so humble, like many of 

13   the veterans are.  And the first thing they say 

14   is that there are others that are more deserving, 

15   there are others that done more.  And I think 

16   that's just a distinctive characteristic for the 

17   men and women that are here today.

18                Ron Pilozzi is very well known among 

19   the members of the Western New York delegation, 

20   very well respected by all the members of the 

21   Senate and the Assembly that serve here in 

22   Albany.  He brings with him a great tradition of 

23   service, his grandfather, his father, his uncle, 

24   and even his nephew is serving today in Operation 

25   Iraqi Freedom in Iraq and in Afghanistan.  

                                                               4103

 1                Ron, like many of the others, served 

 2   in Vietnam with distinction, also earned many 

 3   honors for his service.  But when he came home, 

 4   his service really didn't stop there.  He's been 

 5   a very active member or the community, very 

 6   active working in the private sector.  And one of 

 7   his most recent accomplishments is establishing 

 8   the All Heroes Memorial in Tonawanda, which he, 

 9   with other members of the community, really put 

10   together a tremendous memorial to those who have 

11   served.  

12                And I just want to read a quote from 

13   a member of our community and what he had to say 

14   about Ron.  This is from Rick Lewis, who has a 

15   comment about Ron's induction today into the Hall 

16   of Fame.  He said, "Ron played a major role in 

17   the successful completion of the All Heroes 

18   Memorial.  His dedication, perseverance and 

19   enthusiasm were critically important in the 

20   completion of that project.  He is a great 

21   patriot, dedicated public servant, and wonderful 

22   human being."

23                Ron, like all the others that are 

24   here today, I think really exemplifies those 

25   characteristics of why they are members of this 

                                                               4104

 1   class of the 2011 Veterans Hall of Fame.  So to 

 2   Ron and to all the others, I congratulate you.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

 4   you, Senator.

 5                The motion is on the resolution.  

 6   All in favor signify by saying aye.

 7                (Response of "Aye.")

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   All 

 9   opposed, nay.

10                (No response.)

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

12   resolution is carried.

13                Congratulations to our veterans for 

14   protecting our country and our nation and our 

15   freedoms.  We will forever be in your debt.  God 

16   bless you one and all, God bless the United 

17   States and our troops.

18                (Standing ovation.)  

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

20   Senator Libous.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

22   Senator Skelos would like to open this resolution 

23   to cosponsorship by all members.  

24                As is our custom, everyone will be 

25   put on the resolution.  If you wish not to be a 

                                                               4105

 1   cosponsor, please let the desk know.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   

 3   Resolution 2277 is open for cosponsorship by all 

 4   members.  If you wish not to be on the 

 5   resolution,  please approach the desk.

 6                Senator Libous.

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

 8   there's a resolution at the desk by Senator 

 9   DeFrancisco that was previously adopted.  At this 

10   time he would ask that you read the title and 

11   then call on him, please.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:  The 

13   Secretary will read the title only.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

15   Resolution Number 487, by Senator DeFrancisco, 

16   congratulating the Skaneateles Boys Soccer Team 

17   and Coach Kirk Atwater upon the occasion of 

18   winning the New York State Class B Championship.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:  

20   Senator DeFrancisco.  

21                SENATOR DEFRANCISCO:   Thank you.  

22   I'm proud to rise to comment upon this resolution 

23   that was previously passed.  

24                I know that the team is hungry.  

25   I've been watching the clock, and I've been 

                                                               4106

 1   watching them watching their own watches.  So 

 2   very briefly, this is the Skaneateles Boys Soccer 

 3   Team, who won the Class B State Championship.  

 4   And the last game I think was 1 to 0 over -- 

 5   Burke Catholic, is that who you beat?  

 6                The most important thing, not only 

 7   did you win this championship, you met and have 

 8   played with people that are going to be your 

 9   friends for the rest of your lives.  And that 

10   athletic competition is going to bode well for 

11   you in whatever you do in the future.  

12                So we're very happy that you were 

13   here this day when we honored the veterans who 

14   have made all of this possible for all of us.  

15   And you are going to be the leaders of tomorrow.  

16   So enjoy the rest of your day in Albany, and 

17   congratulations on your wonderful achievement.

18                Thank you.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

20   Congratulations to the gentlemen on the soccer 

21   team and your victories.  

22                This resolution was adopted 

23   previously, so we will move on.  

24                Senator Libous.

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

                                                               4107

 1   there is a privileged resolution at the desk by 

 2   Senator Espaillat.  Could we please read it 

 3   title-only.  

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

 5   Secretary will read the title only.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

 7   resolution by Senator Espaillat, mourning the 

 8   untimely death of Sergeant Merlin; German and 

 9   paying tribute to his devoted service as a member 

10   of the United States Marines.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   All 

12   in favor of this resolution signify by saying 

13   aye.

14                (Response of "Aye.")

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:    

16   Opposed, nay.

17                (No response.)

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

19   resolution is adopted.

20                Senator Libous.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

22   believe Senator Peralta has Resolution 2233.  

23   Could we read its title only and move for its 

24   adoption.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

                                                               4108

 1   Secretary will read the title only.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

 3   Resolution Number 2233, by Senator Peralta, 

 4   commemorating the 202nd Independence Day in 

 5   Equador on August 10, 2011.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:  

 7   Senator Peralta, do you wish to be heard on the 

 8   resolution?

 9                SENATOR PERALTA:   Yes, thank you, 

10   Mr. President.  

11                This August 10th will mark the 202th 

12   Independence Day of Equador.  This celebration is 

13   important because commemorating Independence Day 

14   summons us to reflect about the unconquerable 

15   drive and spirit of patriotic people who made 

16   autonomy possible around the world.  Similar to 

17   what happened here, Equadorians were a small band 

18   of patriots who had declared independence from a 

19   powerful empire.  

20                The people of Ecuador initially 

21   declared independence from Spain in 1809, and 

22   that is why we gather here today.  Their hunger 

23   for liberty, autonomy, and freedom, fueled by 

24   their patriotism, enabled Equador to turn the 

25   tables on the invading Spanish army as the local 

                                                               4109

 1   army succeeded in defeating them.  

 2                Today the Independence Day of 

 3   Equador is observed with a series of programs 

 4   that are coordinated in different parts of the 

 5   Ecuadorian nation, especially in the capital city 

 6   of Quito.  This patriotic extravaganza includes 

 7   special events organized throughout the day to 

 8   commemorate the occasion with cultural 

 9   exhibitions, parades by military forces, and 

10   cannon fire.  In Quito the events are mostly 

11   organized in the Plaza de la Independencia and 

12   the Palacio de Gobierno.

13                Equador's Independence Day is also 

14   celebrated by the people residing in our great 

15   State of New York and throughout our nation.  

16   Various events are coordinated by immigrant 

17   communities to commemorate this special occasion 

18   with folkloric exhibitions, cultural 

19   performances, parades, music, food, sporting 

20   events, and social gatherings.  I particularly 

21   enjoy the sounds of the music of the Andes.

22                From politics and economy to arts 

23   and culture, Equador and Ecuadorians have 

24   augmented our nation and lives.  In my district 

25   in Queens, Ecuadorians continue to strengthen our 

                                                               4110

 1   neighborhoods and economy.  Through their 

 2   valuable contributions and customs they help 

 3   maintain Queens as the most diversity county in 

 4   New York State as well as the most diverse region 

 5   in the nation and the world.  

 6                So today we celebrate the 202nd 

 7   commemoration of Ecuador's Independence Day and 

 8   the contributions made by the Equadorians and 

 9   Equadorian-Americans in the State of New York and 

10   our nation.  

11                Thank you, Mr. President.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   Thank 

13   you, Senator Peralta.

14                All in favor of this resolution 

15   signify by saying aye.

16                (Response of "Aye.")

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   All 

18   opposed, nay.

19                (No response.)

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

21   resolution is carried.

22                Senator Libous.

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

24   Senator Peralta has another resolution before us, 

25   Number 2475.  Title only, and he would like to 

                                                               4111

 1   speak on it, please.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARCELLINO:   The 

 3   Secretary will read the title only.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

 5   Resolution Number 2475, by Senator Peralta, 

 6   commemorating the 201st Anniversary of Columbia's 

 7   Declaration of Independence on July 20, 2011.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 9   Peralta.

10                SENATOR PERALTA:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.  

12                This year also marks the 201st year 

13   of Columbian independence.  Columbia celebrates 

14   Independence Day each year on July 20th.  The day 

15   commemorates the Declaration of Independence made 

16   on that date in 1810.  Even though it took 

17   another nine years to achieve full independence 

18   from Spain, Columbians annually celebrate "El 

19   Grito de la Independencia," or "The Cry for 

20   Independence."  

21                Columbian independence is an 

22   occasion of great celebration in my district, 

23   which is the home to La Pequeña Columbia, or 

24   Little Columbia, and generations of Columbian 

25   families, including that of actor and comedian 

                                                               4112

 1   John Leguizamo, who grew up in Jackson Heights.  

 2   The festivities in Queens include a celebration 

 3   in Flushing Meadow Park, where tens of thousands 

 4   of New Yorkers gather to enjoy Columbian food, 

 5   song, and dance -- an event, by the way, that is 

 6   a magnet for many elected officials.  

 7                Like us, Columbia has a long 

 8   tradition of constitutional government.  The 

 9   United States and Columbia are good friends and 

10   allies, the relationship forged by a love for 

11   democracy, the rule of law and liberty.  By way 

12   of this resolution, we extend our best wishes to 

13   the Columbian-Americans across the state in 

14   advance of this important and joyous day.  

15                Thank you, Mr. President.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

17   you, Senator Peralta.

18                The question is on the resolution. 

19   All those in favor signify by saying aye.

20                (Response of "Aye.")

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

22                (No response.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

24   resolution is adopted.  

25                Senator Libous.  

                                                               4113

 1                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 2   believe there's a privileged resolution by 

 3   Senator Sampson at the desk.  Could we have the 

 4   title read and move for its immediate adoption.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 6   Secretary will read.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

 8   Resolution Number 2529, by Senator Sampson, 

 9   commending the Informed Voices Civic Association 

10   upon the occasion of its 11th Annual Appreciation 

11   Night and Community Awards Ceremony.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

13   question is on the resolution.  All in favor 

14   signify by saying aye.

15                (Response of "Aye.")

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

17                (No response.)

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

19   resolution is adopted.

20                Senator Libous.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

22   believe there's a privileged resolution by 

23   Senator Stewart-Cousins at the desk.  Could we 

24   have the title read only and move for its 

25   immediate adoption.

                                                               4114

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 2   Secretary will read.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

 4   resolution by Senator Stewart-Cousins, 

 5   commemorating July 1, 2011, as the 68th 

 6   Anniversary of the creation of the United States 

 7   Cadet Nurse Corps, and honoring the women who 

 8   served in the Corps.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

10   question is on the resolution.  All in favor 

11   signify by saying aye.

12                (Response of "Aye.") 

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

14                (No response.)

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

16   resolution is adopted.

17                Senator Libous.

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

19   before we move forward, I believe Senator Peralta 

20   would like to open up his two resolutions for 

21   cosponsorship.  

22                So as the policy goes, if someone 

23   does not want to be on the resolutions, please 

24   let the desk know.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:  Senator 

                                                               4115

 1   Paralta's resolutions are open for 

 2   cosponsorship.  Please notify the desk if you 

 3   choose not to be a sponsor.  Thank you.

 4                Senator Libous.

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

 6   this time can we begin the reading of the 

 7   noncontroversial calendar.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 9   Secretary will read.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 69, 

11   by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 2601, an act to 

12   amend the Public Authorities Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

21   Gianaris to explain his vote.

22                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.

24                Very briefly, this legislation seeks 

25   to require a trustee of the Power Authority to be 

                                                               4116

 1   a resident of some of the Western New York 

 2   counties.  And I certainly have no objection to 

 3   that, as I know it's an important agency for that 

 4   part of the state.  

 5                However, my district also houses 

 6   some large and important Power Authority 

 7   infrastructure.  I voted against this in 

 8   committee and will be doing so again, solely 

 9   because I feel if this protection is afforded to 

10   Western New York, it should also be afforded to 

11   Queens County, which also bears the burden of 

12   housing Power Authority infrastructure.

13                So I will be in the negative, with 

14   no desire to be against the intent of this bill, 

15   but simply to make the case that Queens should be 

16   entitled to the same protection.  Thank you.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

18   Gianaris to be recorded in the negative.

19                Announce the results.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.  Nays, 

21   2.  Senators Gianaris and Stavisky recorded in 

22   the negative.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4117

 1   105, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 2385A, an 

 2   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.  Nays, 

11   2.  Senators Duane and Perkins recorded in the 

12   negative.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   125, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 2906, 

17   an act to amend the Real Property Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This act 

21   shall take effect on the 30th day.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

                                                               4118

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   209, by Senator Ball, Senate Print 3955, an act 

 5   to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9   act shall take effect on the 90th day.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   210, by Senator Ball, Senate Print 3956, an act 

18   to amend the Military Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4119

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   265, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 1407A, an 

 6   act to amend the Penal Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

10   act shall take effect on the first of November.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15   Calendar Number 265, those recorded in the 

16   negative are Senators Duane, Montgomery and 

17   Perkins.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 3.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   266, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print --

22                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

24   aside.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4120

 1   350, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 2   Assembly Cymbrowitz, Assembly Print 7388, an act 

 3   to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   411, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 595, an 

16   act to amend the Education Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20   act shall take effect on the first of July.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

                                                               4121

 1   is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   416, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 2135A, an 

 4   act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Rivera to explain his vote.

14                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.

16                I stand today in support of this 

17   legislation.  I commend Senator Bonacic on 

18   bringing this legislation to the floor for the 

19   creation of the Autism Task Force in the State of 

20   New York.  

21                Many might not know, but my older 

22   brother, José Manuel Rivera, Jr. -- we call him 

23   Papotin -- is actually autistic.  Although if you 

24   met him, you'd probably say he was just a little 

25   eccentric.  He was actually very lucky to have 

                                                               4122

 1   both my parents and a supportive family.  But I 

 2   know very well in my family life how difficult 

 3   sometimes it is when there is no support, no 

 4   knowledge to actually be able to deal with all of 

 5   the difficulties of having an autistic child in 

 6   the home.  

 7                So now that he is a productive 

 8   member of society, I hope that with the creation 

 9   of this task force that more children will grow 

10   up to be productive members of society regardless 

11   of their disabilities.  

12                So again, I stand in support of this 

13   legislation.  Thank you, Mr. President.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

15   Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

16                Announce the results.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   418, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 2856A, 

22   an act to amend the Public Health Law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

                                                               4123

 1   act shall take effect on the 120th day.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   DeFrancisco to explain his vote

 7                SENATOR DEFRANCISCO:   Yes.  This 

 8   bill I've had for many, many years, I think 

 9   through four governors.  And quite frankly, I'm 

10   not quite sure why this is the first time it 

11   passed.

12                What it does is establish a 

13   Governor's Commission on Physical Fitness.  The 

14   U.S. government had at one time -- and the poster 

15   child for it at the time was an actor by the name 

16   of Arnold Schwarzenegger.  But it raised 

17   consciousness about being healthy and fit.  And I 

18   really believe this is necessary today with the 

19   substantial rise in obesity rates.  

20                There is a corresponding bill in the 

21   Assembly.  And the reason I'm standing up today 

22   is shouting out to the Assembly down the hallway 

23   asking them to please pass this bill.  We don't 

24   need taxes on sugared soda, we need more 

25   responsibility and more self-control and more 

                                                               4124

 1   exercise.  And this will help establish that type 

 2   of attitude in the State of New York.

 3                Thank you, Mr. President.  I proudly 

 4   vote aye on this outstanding bill.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   DeFrancisco to be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                Senator Rivera to explain his vote.

 8                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                It is not every day that I agree 

11   with my good colleague Senator DeFrancisco.  In 

12   this one, I agree wholeheartedly.  

13                Just this Saturday, down in the 

14   Bronx, I kicked off the Bronx CAN health 

15   initiative.  It stands for Changing Attitudes 

16   Now.  I actually weighed myself publicly -- I'll 

17   have everyone know that I am a very sturdy 299, 

18   299 pounds -- and then committed myself to, 

19   between now and October, losing at least 

20   20 pounds.  And a couple of dozen constituents 

21   actually joined me in the challenge to either 

22   quit smoking or drink less sugary soda.  

23                But the bottom line is that the 

24   creation of such a panel at the state level will 

25   bring attention to this issue.  And yes, it has a 

                                                               4125

 1   lot to do with what we do on an everyday basis.  

 2   We can make healthy choices every single day to 

 3   live healthier lives.  And so that is why I'm 

 4   supportive of this legislation.  Thank you, 

 5   Senator DeFrancisco, for bringing it to the 

 6   floor.  

 7                Thank you, Mr. President.  I will be 

 8   in the affirmative.  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

10   Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

11                Announce the results.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   532, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print --

17                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

19   aside.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   539, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 4133A, an 

22   act to amend the General Municipal Law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

                                                               4126

 1   act shall take effect immediately.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

 6   1.  Senator Rivera recorded in the negative.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   560, by Senator DeFrancisco --

11                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Lay it aside.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

13   aside.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   567, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 4486, 

16   an act to amend the Education Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20   act shall take effect on the first of July.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

                                                               4127

 1   is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   598, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 4991B, an 

 4   act to amend the Public Health Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   601, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 1506, an act 

17   to amend the Highway Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

                                                               4128

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   606, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print 4740C, an 

 5   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 9   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   607, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

18   Assembly Schimel, Assembly Print 7751A, an act to 

19   amend the Highway Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

21   last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

23   act shall take effect on the 30th day.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

25   roll.

                                                               4129

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 3   Fuschillo to explain his vote.

 4                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:   Thank you very 

 5   much, Mr. President.  

 6                This is a great tribute to a police 

 7   officer in Nassau County that was tragically 

 8   killed on February 4th of 2011.  And to honor his 

 9   memory, in respect, we are going to dedicate a 

10   bridge in his name where the tragic event took 

11   place.  

12                I appreciate the support of my 

13   colleagues, and I'll be voting in the affirmative 

14   on the legislation.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

16   Fuschillo to be recorded in the affirmative.

17                Announce the results.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

20   is passed.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   620, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 5168A, an 

23   act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

25   last section.

                                                               4130

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   647, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

11   Assembly Weisenberg, Assembly Print 6462, an act 

12   to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

22   is passed.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   651, by Senator Robach --

25                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

                                                               4131

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 2   aside.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   658, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 5   Assembly Canestrari, Assembly Print Number 2718, 

 6   an act to amend the Education Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   663, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 2899, 

19   an act to amend the New York State Printing and 

20   Public Documents Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

24   act shall take effect on the 90th day.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

                                                               4132

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   683, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 2641, an 

 8   act to --

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

10   the day.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

12   aside for the day.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   685, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

15   Assembly Sweeney, Assembly Print 4786, an act to 

16   amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20   act shall take effect on the 60th day.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

25   1.  Senator Perkins recorded in the negative.

                                                               4133

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   729, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 4556, 

 5   an act to amend the Education Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9   act shall take effect on the first of July.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   731, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 4873A, an 

18   act to amend the Education Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 26.  This 

22   act shall take effect July 1, 2012.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4134

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   746, by Senator Libous, Senate Print --

 6                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 8   aside.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   747, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 3642, an act 

11   to amend the Education Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

15   act shall take effect on the first of July.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   768, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 4410, an 

24   act to amend the --

25                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

                                                               4135

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 2   aside.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   804, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print --

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

 6   the day, please. 

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 8   aside for the day.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   805, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 4757, an act 

11   to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15   act shall take effect immediately.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   808, by Senator Young, Senate Print 855, an act 

24   to amend the Highway Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

                                                               4136

 1   last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   809, by Senator Young, Senate Print 864, an act 

12   to amend the Highway Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

22   is passed.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   812, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 2914A, 

25   an act to amend the Highway Law.

                                                               4137

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 2   last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4   act shall take effect immediately.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 6   roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

10   is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   814, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 3242, an 

13   act to amend the Highway Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   816, by Senator Young, Senate Print 4020A, an act 

                                                               4138

 1   to amend the Highway Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   819, by Senator Young, Senate Print 5060A, an act 

14   to amend the Highway Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.  

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4139

 1   846, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 5085, an 

 2   act directing a study and a report on current 

 3   trends.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect on the 30th day.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   850, by Senator Saland --

16                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

18   aside.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   856, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 3871, an act 

21   to prohibit the --

22                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

24   aside.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4140

 1   861, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 4869, an act 

 2   to amend the Insurance Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

 6   act shall take effect October 19, 2011.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11   Calendar 861:  Ayes, 62.  

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   868, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 5198A, 

16   an act to repeal certain provisions.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 34.  This 

20   act shall take effect on the 60th day.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

                                                               4141

 1   is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   878, by Senator Martins, Senate Print 5227, an 

 4   act to repeal certain provisions of the General 

 5   Municipal Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 97.  This 

 9   act shall take effect on the 60th day.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   881, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print 3263A, an 

18   act to amend the Town Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22   act shall take effect on the first of January.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4142

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   905, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 5463, an act 

 6   to amend the Banking Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 39.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   On page 53, Senator 

18   Griffo moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

19   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 8105 and substitute 

20   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 5464, 

21   Third Reading Calendar 906.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   

23   Substitution so ordered.

24                The Secretary will read.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4143

 1   906, by Member of the Assembly Scarborough, 

 2   Assembly Print 1805, an act to amend the Banking 

 3   Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   937, by Senator Ritchie --

16                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

18   aside.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   950, by Senator Richie, Senate Print 5166, an act 

21   in relation to authorizing the commissioner.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

23   last section.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25   act shall take effect immediately.

                                                               4144

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 2   roll.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   951, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print --

 9                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

11   aside.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   954, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 2467A --

14                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

16   aside.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   955, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 3138, an act 

19   to amend the Highway Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

21   last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23   act shall take effect immediately.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

25   roll.

                                                               4145

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   956, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 3200, an act 

 7   to amend the Public Health Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

11   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

13   roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   960, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 3349, an 

20   act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

                                                               4146

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4   Calendar Number 960, those recorded in the 

 5   negative are Senators Montgomery, Parker, Perkins 

 6   and Espaillat.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.  

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   971, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 4201, an act 

11   to amend the Public Health Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15   act shall take effect immediately.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   976, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 1542, an act 

24   to amend the Correction Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

                                                               4147

 1   last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8   Calendar Number 976, those recorded in the 

 9   negative are Senators Dilan, Montgomery, Parker, 

10   Perkins, and Rivera.  Ayes, 57.  Nays, 5.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

12   is passed.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   977, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 1544, an act 

15   to amend the Correction Law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19   act shall take effect on the 30th day.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

21   roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24   Calendar Number 977, those recorded in the 

25   negative are Senators Duane, Montgomery, Parker 

                                                               4148

 1   and Perkins.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   981, by Senator Alesi --

 6                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 8   aside.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   982, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 3744, an act 

11   to amend the Executive Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

15   act shall take effect immediately.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20   Calendar Number 982, those recorded in the 

21   negative are Senators Duane, Montgomery, Parker 

22   and Perkins.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4149

 1   985, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 2   Assembly Lupardo, Assembly Print 6383, an act to 

 3   amend the Executive Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   987, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 3959, an act 

16   to authorize the City of Newburgh.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

18   a home-rule message at the desk.

19                Read the last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

                                                               4150

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   988, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 4254, an 

 5   act to authorize the Village of Oyster Bay.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

 7   a home-rule message at the desk.

 8                Read the last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

15   1.  Senator Ball recorded in the negative.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   989, by Senator Young, Senate Print 4359, an act 

20   to amend the General Municipal Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

                                                               4151

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   990, by Senator Young, Senate Print 4360, an act 

 8   to amend the General Municipal Law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12   act shall take effect immediately.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   992, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 4938A, an 

21   act to amend the City of Newburgh Fiscal Recovery 

22   Act.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

24   a home-rule message at the desk.

25                Read the last section.

                                                               4152

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.  

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

 7   1.  Senator Ball recorded in the negative.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   998, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 5507, an act 

12   to amend Chapter 445 of the Laws of 2008.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.  

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.  

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

22   is passed.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   1001, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 2593, an 

25   act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

                                                               4153

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 2   last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 

 4   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 6   roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Those 

 9   voting in the negative please raise your hands.

10                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11   Calendar Number 1001, those recorded in the 

12   negative are Senators Duane, Montgomery, Parker 

13   and Perkins.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   1010, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

18   Assembly Peoples-Stokes, Assembly Print Number 

19   7570, an act to amend the Parks, Recreation and 

20   Historic Preservation Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

                                                               4154

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 5   aside.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1011, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 8   Assembly Englebright, Assembly Print 7279 --

 9                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

11   aside.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1012, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

14   Assembly --

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

16   Breslin.

17                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.  I would request that the 

19   lay-aside be taken off on Calendar Number 1010, 

20   Senate 5342.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

22   lay-aside on Senate Bill 5342 is lifted and the 

23   the Secretary will read Calendar 1010.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1010, by Member of the Assembly Peoples-Stokes, 

                                                               4155

 1   Assembly Print 7570, an act to amend the Parks, 

 2   Recreation and Historic Preservation Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

12   is passed.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1012, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

15   Assembly Lupardo, Assembly Print 6299A, an act to 

16   amend the Parks, Recreation and Historic 

17   Preservation Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

                                                               4156

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1017, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 5   Assembly Calhoun, Assembly Print 3152, an act to 

 6   amend the Public Authorities Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   1018, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 5512, an 

19   act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

21   last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

23   act shall take effect immediately.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

25   roll.

                                                               4157

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   On page 63, Senator 

 6   Seward moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 7   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 8133 and substitute 

 8   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 5561, 

 9   Third Reading Calendar 1025.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

11   substitution is so ordered.

12                The Secretary will read.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1025, by Member of the Assembly Latimer, Assembly 

15   Print 8133, an act to amend the Insurance Law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19   act shall take effect immediately.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

21   roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

25   is passed.

                                                               4158

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1027, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 4827, an 

 3   act to amend the Election Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

12   1.  Senator Dilan recorded in the negative.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1031, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

17   Assembly Millman, Assembly Print 7453A, an act to 

18   amend the Election Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

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 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   1147, by Senator Klein, Senate Print 587A, an act 

 6   to amend the Education Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

15   Klein to explain his vote.

16                SENATOR KLEIN:   Thank you, 

17   Mr. President.

18                This legislation is going to go a 

19   long way towards making sure our young people in 

20   public schools in New York City are healthy.  

21   When you look at the numbers, they're quite 

22   startling, that 38 percent of our young people 

23   are obese or overweight.  

24                This legislation would require that 

25   the City Department of Education submit a report 

                                                               4160

 1   to the Governor and the State legislature on the 

 2   availability, location, size and physical 

 3   condition of outdoor schoolyards.  Unfortunately, 

 4   many of our schoolyards are either covered with 

 5   temporary classroom units or just aren't repaired 

 6   properly, and this is the only way our young 

 7   people get any physical education in our outdoor 

 8   playgrounds.  So this at least I think is going 

 9   to be a very important first step to make sure 

10   that the Department of Education knows the 

11   inventory of these public schools and can ensure 

12   that our young people have adequate play space.  

13                Thank you.  I vote yes, 

14   Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

16   Klein to be recorded in the affirmative.

17                Announce the results.

18                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19   Calendar 1147, those recorded in the negative are 

20   Senators Ball, O'Mara and Senator Saland.  Also 

21   Senators Gallivan, Larkin and Ranzenhofer.  

22                Ayes, 56.  Nays, 6.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4161

 1   1149, by Senator Breslin, Senate Print 1164, an 

 2   act to amend the Town Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

12   is passed.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1150, by Senator Breslin, Senate Print 1188, an 

15   act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19   act shall take effect immediately.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

21   roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Please 

24   keep your hands up if you're voting in the 

25   negative.  

                                                               4162

 1                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2   Calendar 1150, those recorded in the negative are 

 3   Senators Dilan, Hassell-Thompson, L. Krueger, 

 4   Montgomery, Perkins and Rivera.

 5                Ayes, 56.  Nays, 6.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   1151, by Senator Duane, Senate Print 1303, an act 

10   to amend the Elder Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

12   last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

14   act shall take effect immediately.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

16   roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

19   1.  Senator Diaz recorded in the negative.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   1152, by Senator Klein, Senate Print 2796A, an 

24   act authorizing the Commissioner of General 

25   Services.

                                                               4163

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 2   last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 4   act shall take effect immediately.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 6   roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

10   is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1153, by Senator Huntley, Senate Print 3016A, an 

13   act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

17   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1154, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

                                                               4164

 1   Assembly Canestrari, Assembly Print Number 2502A, 

 2   an act to amend the Education Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 6   act shall take effect one year after it shall 

 7   have become law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

12   Saland to explain his vote.

13                SENATOR SALAND:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  

15                Mr. President, I certainly commend 

16   Senator Oppenheimer for her intention here.  Her 

17   intention certainly is a laudable one, to require 

18   that physical therapists have a graduate degree.  

19   And she takes pains to grandfather or grandmother 

20   in those who are currently in practice who might 

21   not have that degree.

22                There is, however, I believe, one 

23   oversight, and I would hope that she would think 

24   about this, perhaps by way of a chapter 

25   amendment.  Those students who are currently 

                                                               4165

 1   enrolled in these programs now who are 

 2   anticipating being able to go out and engage in 

 3   the practice of physical therapy are going to be 

 4   prevented from doing so because they're not 

 5   grandfathered or grandmothered.  

 6                Much like what occurred to social 

 7   workers when social work students, when the law 

 8   changed a few years ago, there was a 

 9   grandfathering provision.  However, there were 

10   hundreds if not thousands of students who 

11   anticipated being able to go out and engage in 

12   the practice of therapy as certified social 

13   workers who were unable to do so under the new 

14   requirements.

15                These students, who would have hoped 

16   to be able to begin their practice at the 

17   conclusion of their undergraduate work or 

18   whatever course of study they've taken, will not 

19   be able to do so.

20                So I'm going to vote against this 

21   bill for that very reason.  But I would hope that 

22   you would consider some chapter amendment that 

23   takes into account those who are currently in a 

24   course of study to become a physical therapist so 

25   that they are not in effect prejudiced by this.  

                                                               4166

 1   And I think it's a relatively easy thing to do.

 2                Thank you.

 3                SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:   

 4   Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   Oppenheimer, one second.

 7                Senator Saland, how do you vote?  

 8                SENATOR SALAND:   I vote in the 

 9   negative.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

11   Saland to be recorded in the negative.

12                Senator Oppenheimer to explain her 

13   vote.

14                SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:   That is a -- 

15   the Senator has raised a point.  And I am always 

16   concerned about those people that get caught just 

17   as a new law is coming in and they're finishing 

18   up their education and what happens to those 

19   people -- maybe it's only, you know, 50 of them, 

20   but what happens to them when they're caught in 

21   the middle.

22                However, this is an important bill.  

23   We are the only state in the United States that 

24   does not require a master's degree for our 

25   physical therapists, either a master's degree or 

                                                               4167

 1   a doctorate, so we feel that this is an important 

 2   thing to be doing.  And we also very frequently 

 3   try and upgrade the professionalism of our 

 4   various groups that come before us for extension.

 5                So I think this is an important bill 

 6   and puts us in sync with the rest of the 

 7   country.  I'll be voting yes.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 9   Oppenheimer to be recorded in the affirmative.

10                Announce the results.

11                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12   Calendar 1154, those recorded in the negative are 

13   Senators Ball, Gallivan, Grisanti, Huntley, 

14   Larkin, Montgomery, Perkins, Ritchie, Robach and 

15   Saland.  

16                Ayes, 52.  Nays, 10.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1155, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 4469, an 

21   act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.  

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

23   last section.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25   act shall take effect on the 30th day.

                                                               4168

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 2   roll.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   1157, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 4718A, an 

 9   act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

11   last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

13   act shall take effect immediately.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

15   roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1158, by Senator Kennedy, Senate Print 4726, an 

22   act to amend the Penal Law.  

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

                                                               4169

 1   act shall take effect on the first of November.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

 6   2.  Senators Montgomery and Perkins recorded in 

 7   the negative.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   1159, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

12   Assembly Farrell, Assembly Print Number 6923, an 

13   act to amend the Local Finance Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1160, by Senator Montgomery, Senate Print 4855, 

                                                               4170

 1   an act to amend the State Finance Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1161, by Senator Valesky, Senate Print 5347, an 

14   act to authorize the Tully Central School 

15   District.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

19   act shall take effect immediately.  

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

21   roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

25   is passed.

                                                               4171

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1164, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 5493, an 

 3   act to amend the Social Services Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

12   1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1165, by Senator Breslin, Senate Print 5496, an 

17   act to authorize Holding Our Own, Inc.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.  Nays, 

                                                               4172

 1   3.  Senators Bonacic, Larkin and O'Mara recorded 

 2   in the negative.  

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 4   is passed.  

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   1169, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 7   Assembly Aubry, Assembly Print 7930, an act to 

 8   amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

12   act shall take effect September 1, 2011.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1170, by Senator Ball, Senate Print 5558, an act 

21   to amend the Retirement and Social Security Law.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

23   last section.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Section 30.  This 

25   act shall take effect immediately.

                                                               4173

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 2   roll.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   1171, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate 

 9   Print 5564, an act to amend the Public 

10   Authorities Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

12   last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14   act shall take effect immediately.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

16   roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19   Calendar 1171, those recorded in the negative are 

20   Senators Ball, Gallivan, L. Krueger and Rivera.

21                Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1172, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 5569, an 

                                                               4174

 1   act to amend Chapter 738 of the Laws of 2005.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1173, by Senator Oppenheimer, Senate Print 5571, 

14   an act to amend Chapter 851 of the Laws of 1949.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

23   1.  Senator Ball recorded in the negative.  

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

25   is passed.

                                                               4175

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1174, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 3   Assembly O'Donnell, Assembly Print 7520, an act 

 4   to amend the Domestic Relations Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8   act shall take effect on the 90th day.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1175, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 5583, an 

17   act to amend the Tax Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

                                                               4176

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1177, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 5643, 

 5   an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9   act shall take effect immediately.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   1178, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 5647, an 

18   act to amend the Education Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4177

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 3   is passed.  

 4                Senator Montgomery, do you wish to 

 5   speak?  

 6                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   I would like 

 7   to explain my vote.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 9   Montgomery to explain her vote.

10                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.  I want to explain my vote on this 

12   legislation.

13                I think it's very, very important 

14   and I didn't wish that it would pass without us 

15   having at least an opportunity to really review 

16   how significant this bill is.  I want to thank 

17   Senator Flanagan for introducing it.  

18                This is to support a major reform 

19   measure that is being implemented by the State 

20   Department of Education, with the commissioner 

21   and the Regents, who have really created a 

22   mechanism for us to bring together the university 

23   community and the high schools in communities 

24   across the state to upgrade the process and the 

25   opportunity for educational advancement for high 

                                                               4178

 1   school students.  

 2                I am very, very pleased that we're 

 3   passing this bill today.  And again, I say to 

 4   Senator Flanagan this is a very good thing and 

 5   today we can take pride in doing something that 

 6   in the years to come, going forward, we're going 

 7   to see a tremendous improvement in our 

 8   educational system and opportunity for high 

 9   school students.

10                Thank you, Mr. President.  I vote 

11   aye.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Montgomery to be recorded in the affirmative.

14                Announce the results.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1180, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

20   Assembly Abbate --

21                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

23   aside.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1181, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 5656, an 

                                                               4179

 1   act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1183, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 5704, an 

14   act to amend Chapter 451 of the Laws of 2007.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                Senator Hannon, that completes the 

                                                               4180

 1   noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

 2                SENATOR HANNON:   Mr. President, 

 3   before we go to the controversial calendar, I'd 

 4   like to recognize two Senators for the purpose of 

 5   making some comments.  The first would be Senator 

 6   Stewart-Cousins.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Without 

 8   objection, Senator Stewart-Cousins.

 9                SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   Thank 

10   you, Mr. President.

11                Earlier a resolution passed that was 

12   read only title, only the title was read, and I 

13   thought it was just important to spend a moment 

14   or two -- I know that we have a long day -- 

15   articulating what this was about.  

16                Today I had the opportunity to honor 

17   a colonel that also happened to be a nurse.  When 

18   I first ran for this office, I ran into a nurse 

19   who kept saying, "When is anybody going to 

20   recognize the Cadet Nurse Corps that served 

21   during World War II?"  

22                Now, the Cadet Nurse Corps was 

23   created by Congress.  It was the brainchild of 

24   Representative Frances Bolton of Ohio.  And she 

25   introduced the bill, and it was made law on 

                                                               4181

 1   July 1, 1943.  What was happening, because of --

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Excuse 

 3   me, Senator Stewart-Cousins.

 4                SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:  Please.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:  Can we 

 6   have some order in the house, please?  

 7                Senator Stewart-Cousins.

 8                SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   Thank 

 9   you, Mr. President.

10                Obviously, World War II was taking 

11   its toll, and what was required were nurses to 

12   come from hospitals to go serve on the battle 

13   front, leaving a vacuum of healthcare in our 

14   local hospitals.  The Cadet Nurse Program 

15   incentivized young nurses who were still in 

16   training to come forward and get their training 

17   accelerated so that they could backfill, in the 

18   hospitals, those nurses who went to the front 

19   lines.  

20                So there were 1200 nursing schools 

21   that participated in this.  There were about 

22   180,000 nurses that participated in this.  They 

23   filled not only our local hospitals but the 

24   veteran hospitals so that more senior nurses were 

25   able to go to the front lines.

                                                               4182

 1                They have, after 68 years, never 

 2   been given an official entree into the benefits 

 3   of veterans in our country, and yet they served 

 4   our country in order for the servicemen and women 

 5   to be able to not only face battle but to have 

 6   great healthcare when they returned wounded.

 7                So it is a pleasure today, because 

 8   of Anne Kakos and certainly because of the 

 9   wonderful Colonel Theresa Mercado-Sconzo that we 

10   honored today, to stand in this chamber and give 

11   thanks and recognition to the Cadet Nurse Program 

12   that began July 1, 1943, that will have its 

13   68th anniversary.  

14                So I thank you for the time and, 

15   again, thank the nurse cadets.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

17   you, Senator Stewart-Cousins.

18                Senator Espaillat.

19                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Thank you, 

20   Mr. President.  

21                Again, today we had the pleasure of 

22   honoring veterans and a resolution was passed by 

23   this house recognizing and honoring posthumously 

24   Sergeant Merlin German, who faithfully served our 

25   country with courage, with devotion, and 

                                                               4183

 1   excellence.  

 2                I am here standing to applaud his 

 3   legacy.  And we have with us today Norma Guerra, 

 4   who's his "Texas mom," who also is affiliated 

 5   with an organization called Merlin's Miracle.  

 6                Merlin German was a United States 

 7   Marine sergeant in Iraq who survived a roadside 

 8   bomb blast in 2005.  He became a symbol of 

 9   recovery throughout the world, soon known as the 

10   "Miracle Marine."  During the 17 months he spent 

11   hospitalized following the blast, Sergeant German 

12   eventually regained the ability to walk and set 

13   up a charity for child burn victims.  

14                Just over three years after the 

15   blast, he passed away following a minor skin 

16   graft surgery.  But he is surely an example of 

17   how many young men and women served this 

18   country.  Recently the Wounded Warrior Regiment 

19   renamed its call-in help center at the Marine 

20   Corps base in Quantico after his name.  

21                He is truly an American hero, and we 

22   are here with his "Texas mom," who joined us 

23   today, flew in from San Antonio to be with us 

24   today.  And he's a true New Yorker, a true hero 

25   to all of us.  So I'm happy to stand up in 

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 1   support of the resolution that passed in this 

 2   Veterans Day here in the State Senate.  

 3                Thank you, Mr. President.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

 5   you, Senator Espaillat.  

 6                (To Ms. Guerra)  And we welcome you 

 7   to the chamber.

 8                (Applause.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

10   Libous, that completes the noncontroversial 

11   reading of the calendar and any announcements and 

12   recognitions.  

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

14   could we go back to motions and resolutions.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   On 

16   motions and resolutions.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

18   Senator Seward, on page 63 I offer the following 

19   amendments to Calendar Number 1020, Senate Print 

20   2714A, and ask that said bill retain its place on 

21   the Third Reading Calendar.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

23   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

24   its place on third reading.

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On page 39, I 

                                                               4185

 1   offer the following amendments to Calendar Number 

 2   641, Senate Print Number 4607A, and ask that said 

 3   bill retain its place on the Third Reading 

 4   Calendar.  That's on behalf of Senator Zeldin.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 6   amendments are accepted, and the bill will retain 

 7   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

 9   behalf of Senator Fuschillo, I wish to call up 

10   his bill, Senate Print 3154A, recalled from the 

11   Assembly, which is now at the desk.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

13   Secretary will read.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   138, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 3451A, an 

16   act to amend the Penal Law.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

18   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

19   bill was passed.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

21   roll on reconsideration.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

24                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

25   offer up the following amendments.

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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 2   amendments are accepted.

 3                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

 4   behalf of Senator Gallivan, I wish to call up his 

 5   bill, Senate Print 4050, recalled from the 

 6   Assembly, which is now at the desk.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 8   Secretary will read.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   300, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 4050, an 

11   act to amend the Family Court Act.

12                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I now move to 

13   reconsider the vote by which this bill was 

14   passed.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    Call the 

16   roll on reconsideration.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

20   offer up the following amendments.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    

22   Amendments accepted.

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

24   this time could we have the reading of the 

25   controversial calendar, please.

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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 2   Secretary will ring the bell.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

 4   Secretary will read.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   266, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 2488B, an 

 7   act to amend the Penal Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:  Section 2 --

11                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Explanation.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

13   Griffo, an explanation has been requested.

14                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.

16                This bill deals with information 

17   relative to pistol permits and licensing of 

18   pistol permits.  Essentially, it would change the 

19   way this is done right now.  Currently, an online 

20   pistol permit registry is available, allows users 

21   to sort the permit holders by geographic area.  

22                What I am attempting to do, for the 

23   sake of public safety and privacy for those who 

24   own pistols that are legally registered right now 

25   is to allow that information to only be received 

                                                               4188

 1   through a direct specific request of the 

 2   individual or the location, rather than a mass 

 3   request.  And so, in essence, that's what the 

 4   bill accomplishes.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 6   Squadron.

 7                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Would the 

 8   sponsor yield for a question.

 9                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Sure.

10                SENATOR SQUADRON:   I know that this 

11   bill has been amended and that there are law 

12   enforcement agencies that have access to this 

13   information.  Would the sponsor just take us 

14   through the process by which a law enforcement 

15   agency would get this information?  

16                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Mr. President, 

17   through you.  Senator Squadron, the law 

18   enforcement agencies will continue to have the 

19   access and the availability of receiving 

20   information as needed.

21                SENATOR SQUADRON:   If the sponsor 

22   would continue to yield.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Do you 

24   continue to yield, Senator Griffo?  

25                SENATOR GRIFFO:   I do.

                                                               4189

 1                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you.

 2                So today there's a public database, 

 3   law enforcement can access it, the public can 

 4   access it.  Under this scenario, would law 

 5   enforcement have that same ability to access the 

 6   information with the click of a mouse or would 

 7   they need to request the information?  

 8                SENATOR GRIFFO:   The law 

 9   enforcement would be able to access --

10                (Interruption from the gallery.)  

11                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Mr. President.  

12   Mr. President.  Mr. President.  Mr. President.  

13                Mr. President, this bill essentially 

14   would be able to accomplish what Senator Squadron 

15   has asked.  So, Senator Squadron, the answer to 

16   the question is law enforcement will continue to 

17   have that access.

18                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you, 

19   Mr. President.  If the sponsor would continue to 

20   yield.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Do you 

22   continue to yield?

23                SENATOR SQUADRON:  Mr. President, if 

24   the sponsor would continue to yield.  

25                SENATOR GRIFFO:  Through you, 

                                                               4190

 1   Mr. President.  Senator Squadron, this is not a 

 2   publicly created database.  What has happened in 

 3   the past is we've had a situation where 

 4   individuals have published on the Internet names 

 5   and addresses of individuals who have had pistol 

 6   permit licenses.  

 7                So what this attempts to do is to 

 8   try to prevent that and to ensure that law 

 9   enforcement will have that access at any time but 

10   an individual would have to ask specifically for 

11   a name and a location.

12                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you.

13                If the sponsor would continue to 

14   yield.

15                SENATOR GRIFFO:   I do.

16                SENATOR SQUADRON:  Thank you.  My 

17   voice is rarely too low.

18                (Laughter.)

19                SENATOR SQUADRON:   And if a member 

20   of the public wanted this information that's 

21   currently available, how would they access it if 

22   the bill were to become law?

23                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Mr. President, 

24   through you.  Senator Squadron, the public still 

25   could do this, they could not just make a mass, 

                                                               4191

 1   general inquiry.  They would have to make a 

 2   specific inquiry of an individual.  

 3                So they would have the access to the 

 4   information but not a general, mass, say "give me 

 5   everyone who has a pistol permit."  They would 

 6   have to identify "Dan Squadron" and the location 

 7   and then get that information to attest to that.

 8                SENATOR SQUADRON:   So if the 

 9   sponsor would continue to yield.

10                SENATOR GRIFFO:   I do.

11                SENATOR SQUADRON:   So law 

12   enforcement would have access at their 

13   fingertips, without any request, and the public 

14   would have access to this information and it 

15   wouldn't be as burdensome or time-consuming as a 

16   FOIL is right now, they would be able to do it -- 

17   could you just take me very briefly through the 

18   process for a member of the public to get, on an 

19   individual basis, this information?  

20                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Correct.  

21   Mr. President, through you.  The law enforcement 

22   has the access at any time.  The public would go 

23   through the process we've described.

24                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you.

25                On the bill.  On the bill, I think 

                                                               4192

 1   that this -- there's a balance here between 

 2   privacy concerns and -- privacy concerns for 

 3   those who own firearms legally are just as 

 4   important as privacy concerns in any number of 

 5   different contexts.  

 6                It's critically important that 

 7   there's a bill that doesn't undermine the ability 

 8   of law enforcement to immediately start tracking 

 9   crimes, start tracking violations.  As you know, 

10   I believe that we need to be doing more to help 

11   law enforcement track crimes, track gun crimes.  

12   And so any bill that would undermine that would 

13   be a problem.  This bill clearly doesn't, and I 

14   appreciate sponsor's description.

15                I also do think that it's important 

16   for this public information to be fully 

17   available.  I appreciate the sponsor's comments 

18   on the access of the public.  I worry that the 

19   process would be a little bit too burdensome.  I 

20   understand that sort of the broad search that 

21   currently exists is not ideal.  On the other 

22   hand, I think that being able to search on an 

23   individual basis in a more timely fashion would 

24   be important, and for that reason I'm not going 

25   to be able to support the bill.  

                                                               4193

 1                I do appreciate that certainly as 

 2   pertains to law enforcement, this bill does not 

 3   have a negative effect, and I thank the sponsor 

 4   for his time.  

 5                Thank you, Mr. President.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Any other 

 7   Senator wishing to be heard?  

 8                The debate is closed.  

 9                The Secretary will ring the bell.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:  Mr. President, I 

11   know that we're on the vote, and I just want to 

12   make an announcement to all of my colleagues.  

13                In the interest of getting out of 

14   here at a reasonable time, I would ask that you 

15   stay close to the chambers so that we can roll 

16   these votes right along, because I know that, 

17   like you and I, we want to be able to have an 

18   orderly process.  And if we have to wait more 

19   than a couple of minutes, I will move forward 

20   with the roll call.  And if members become 

21   absent, maybe that will help us to speed things 

22   up.

23                So from this point forward, I would 

24   ask members to pay close attention to when the 

25   roll calls are going to be, because I'm not 

                                                               4194

 1   waiting.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Announce 

10   the results.  

11                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12   Calendar Number 266, those recorded in the 

13   negative are Senators Avella, Carlucci, Diaz, 

14   Duane, Espaillat, Gianaris, Hassell-Thompson, 

15   Huntley, Klein, L. Krueger, C. Kruger, 

16   Montgomery, Parker, Peralta, Perkins, Rivera, 

17   Savino, Serrano, Smith, Squadron, Stavisky, and 

18   Stewart-Cousins.  

19                Ayes, 40.  Nays, 22.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   532, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 2481, an 

24   act to amend the Correction Law.

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

                                                               4195

 1   the day.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:  The bill 

 3   is laid aside for the day.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   560, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 4017, 

 6   an act to amend the Penal Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect on the 30th day.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Mr. President, 

15   can we just clarify what calendar number we're 

16   on?  

17                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   We are on 

18   Calendar Number 560.

19                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Announce 

21   the results.

22                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23   Calendar Number 560, those recorded in the 

24   negative are Senators Addabbo, Avella, Duane, 

25   Fuschillo, Montgomery, Parker, Peralta, Perkins 

                                                               4196

 1   and Serrano.  Also Senator Martins.  

 2                Ayes, 52.  Nays, 10.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   651, by Senator Robach, Senate Print 716, an act 

 7   to amend the State Finance Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Explanation.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

12   Robach, an explanation has been requested.

13                SENATOR ROBACH:   Yes, 

14   Mr. President.  

15                This bill, we are working with the 

16   Governor on a property tax cap bill that 

17   hopefully we will be passing shortly to give 

18   relief to property taxpayers, especially in 

19   upstate New York.  This I would consider a 

20   companion bill to that, to show that we're being 

21   willing to control our spending at the state 

22   level at the rate of inflation, just like 

23   businesses, working families, people on a fixed 

24   income.  

25                This bill would do that, taking the 

                                                               4197

 1   three-year average and controlling our spending 

 2   at that rate of inflation in an effort to get our 

 3   fiscal house in order and also lead by example, 

 4   as we are going to be doing the same thing, 

 5   hopefully very shortly, working together for 

 6   local governments.

 7                I believe this is a step in the 

 8   right direction.  And I know -- and there's been 

 9   polls time and time again -- folks all across the 

10   state want us to focus on less spending and less 

11   taxes.  This measure will directly address that.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                SENATOR SQUADRON:  Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:  Senator 

16   Squadron.

17                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you.  If 

18   the sponsor would yield for a moment.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

20   Robach, will you yield?  

21                SENATOR ROBACH:   I certainly 

22   would.  And if you want to skip -- keep on 

23   asking, I will answer all the questions Senator 

24   Squadron would like to ask.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank you 

                                                               4198

 1   Senator Robach.  

 2                SENATOR SQUADRON:   I appreciate 

 3   that.

 4                So if the sponsor wouldn't mind 

 5   describing how this bill would apply to the 

 6   budget this year, where there was not an increase 

 7   in spending but there was an increase in state 

 8   spending because of what had happened with the 

 9   stimulus bill.  

10                SENATOR ROBACH:   We would have been 

11   well under this year if this bill were to be in 

12   effect.  

13                However, let me read this to you, 

14   because even the people in this chamber may be 

15   shocked to learn that from 2002-2003 to 

16   2007-2008, state operation spending, our 

17   spending, went from $52.8 billion to $77 billion, 

18   an average of almost 8 percent increase in 

19   spending.

20                That helped get us to the crisis I 

21   think that we're in that we all agreed we were in 

22   when we had to make these dramatic measures.  If 

23   this bill had been in place let's say five years 

24   ago, not only would we have been under last year, 

25   but we probably wouldn't have seen those huge 

                                                               4199

 1   increases which put us in such a bad economic 

 2   position to begin with.  I guess that's the best 

 3   way I could answer it.

 4                But last year, or our last budget 

 5   that we just passed, clearly that decreased 

 6   spending, so we'd be well under any growth 

 7   number, whatever it was, based on inflation or 

 8   anything else.

 9                SENATOR SQUADRON:   If the sponsor 

10   would yield for one final question.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Without 

12   objection.  

13                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you.  And 

14   in the 2009-2010 fiscal year, in which there was 

15   a significant infusion of federal stimulus 

16   dollars and the state spending did not increase 

17   but there was the appearance of an increase 

18   because there was a massive federal stimulus that 

19   went to many states, what would be the effect of 

20   this bill have been in that fiscal year?  

21                SENATOR ROBACH:   I'm not certain 

22   what the exact effect would be.  What I could 

23   tell you is between increasing taxes and fees and 

24   federal money coming in, we've been growing at 

25   8 percent a year prior to this last year almost 

                                                               4200

 1   consistently.  And the result of that has been, 

 2   in the last two years, $14 billion in new taxes 

 3   and fees, put on predominantly from that side of 

 4   the aisle, that people where I live don't like.

 5                This is just one small step, again 

 6   with property tax, to show the public we're 

 7   listening and control out-of-rate growth.  I 

 8   suppose this could be amended if we were getting 

 9   an infusion of capital from the federal 

10   government that went to run state operations.  

11   But usually, I think, if I follow it right, a lot 

12   of it's education money, Medicaid money that's 

13   passed through for very specific things, not 

14   General Fund spending.

15                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you very 

16   much.  On the bill, Mr. President.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   On the 

18   bill, Senator Squadron.

19                SENATOR SQUADRON:   A bill that 

20   raises concerns about the state's ability to 

21   accept large infusions of federal dollars which 

22   are so important to keeping the state going in a 

23   crisis is a bill that raises some serious 

24   concerns.  

25                In the last two quarters we have 

                                                               4201

 1   had, nationally, an increase in unemployment even 

 2   as the private sector has created jobs, because 

 3   it has been matched by more significant 

 4   reductions in public sector jobs.  In fact, 

 5   there's now concerns of a double-dip recession 

 6   around that.  

 7                The federal stimulus bill was far 

 8   from a perfect bill, but in that moment for this 

 9   state when we were beginning to spiral out of 

10   control, it was significant.  And I think a bill 

11   that would prevent New York from getting and 

12   using federal dollars is one that I would have a 

13   number of concerns about.

14                Thank you, Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Any other 

16   Senator wishing to be heard?

17                Senator Krueger.

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you, 

19   Mr. President.  If the sponsor would yield, 

20   please.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

22   Robach, do you yield?  

23                SENATOR ROBACH:   I will.

24                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  So 

25   let's try to take this bill apart a little bit, 

                                                               4202

 1   if we might.

 2                So under this bill you would have a 

 3   spending cap but the government could exceed the 

 4   spending cap if an emergency was declared and the 

 5   Legislature authorized, by a two-thirds majority, 

 6   additional spending.  Is that correct?  

 7                SENATOR ROBACH:   That's correct.

 8                SENATOR KRUEGER:   And what's the 

 9   definition of an emergency?

10                SENATOR ROBACH:   I think that would 

11   probably have to be a collective decision by the 

12   Governor, perhaps even this Legislature, given 

13   some financial crisis or extraordinary 

14   circumstance.

15                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, if 

16   through you the sponsor would continue to yield.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Do you 

18   continue to yield, Senator Robach?  

19                SENATOR ROBACH:   Yes.

20                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I believe 

21   technically that the bill requires an emergency 

22   to be declared by the Governor.  So what's the 

23   definition of what the --

24                SENATOR ROBACH:  It says right here, 

25   in line 8 of the bill, "'Emergency' shall mean an 

                                                               4203

 1   extraordinary, unforeseen, or unexpected 

 2   occurrence or combination of circumstances 

 3   including but not limited to natural disaster, 

 4   invasion, terrorist attack or economic 

 5   calamity."  I think it's pretty spelled out.  

 6                Again, we're not trying to change 

 7   existing law, we're trying to control spending.  

 8   Given the fact, as again, when I was answering 

 9   Senator Squadron's question, we had several years 

10   when inflation was at 2 percent and we were 

11   raising our spending at 8 percent, then having 

12   people later on say that was the reason why we 

13   had to raise taxes and fees on businesses, on 

14   everyday people.  

15                This is to try and control that in 

16   the future, as we did, working along -- last year 

17   on the budget with the Governor to control it 

18   last year.  If that helps.

19                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, if 

20   the sponsor would continue to yield.

21                SENATOR ROBACH:   I will.

22                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

23                And the cap would be set at the 

24   average of the three previous annual 

25   consumer-price-rate years over the previous 

                                                               4204

 1   year's aggregate SOF spending.  Why did you 

 2   decide on this formula for a base amount?  

 3                SENATOR ROBACH:   I think the logic 

 4   with that was if there was a peak or a very 

 5   depressed year, rather than take one year, as 

 6   some other states have done, we wanted to take 

 7   three years to try and give a fair average to get 

 8   a very accurate picture, again, of the rate of 

 9   inflation or growth rather than base it on one 

10   year.

11                SENATOR KRUEGER:   And have we -- 

12   excuse me, Mr. President.  If through you the 

13   sponsor would continue to yield.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Do you 

15   continue to yield, Senator Robach?  

16                SENATOR ROBACH:   Absolutely, yes.  

17   I will continue to yield for whatever questions 

18   Senator Krueger has.

19                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you so 

20   much.

21                So quite a few other states have 

22   gone down the road of exploring spending caps or 

23   putting spending caps into effect or removing 

24   spending caps.  And I'm just curious whether you 

25   have looked at the research from that and the 

                                                               4205

 1   findings from those states, particularly Colorado 

 2   and California.

 3                SENATOR ROBACH:   I can honestly say 

 4   I have not looked at the research from California 

 5   or Colorado, but I have listened to the people of 

 6   New York who I believe 84 percent think New York 

 7   spends too much, taxes too much and does not live 

 8   within its means.  

 9                This is clearly what I believe a 

10   very logical, intelligent bill that will address 

11   those very, very concerns.  And I have to say I'm 

12   in that 84 percent, and not only as a legislator 

13   but as a citizen that feels we have to be the 

14   responsible parent and try and control how much 

15   we spend.  

16                I just think the evidence, again, is 

17   so compelling when you look at, you know, our 

18   last 10 years of budgeting, given what was going 

19   on with the economy, and not having any parameter 

20   or ceiling on how much we spent, seemed to not 

21   put New York in good shape, not for everyday 

22   citizens, who are leaving because of taxes, not 

23   for businesses, who are crying for less 

24   regulation and fees, not more.  Clearly that 

25   policy without this has led to great, great 

                                                               4206

 1   growth greater than the rate of inflation.

 2                So I'm not so concerned with 

 3   Colorado or California, but I really, really am 

 4   concerned with New York.

 5                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  I'm 

 6   also very concerned with the State of New York, 

 7   Senator Robach, which is why I'm asking about the 

 8   research from other states.

 9                Mr. President, if through you the 

10   sponsor would continue to yield.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

12   sponsor continues to yield.

13                SENATOR ROBACH:   I will.

14                SENATOR KRUEGER:   The research from 

15   other states actually shows that spending caps 

16   have a disproportionate impact on women, the 

17   elderly, the disabled, and the poor.  How would 

18   we try to protect New York State from going down 

19   that road if we were to implement a spending cap 

20   as proposed by this bill?  

21                SENATOR ROBACH:   I don't know how 

22   you could possibly quantify in a study that would 

23   treat everybody equally.  A property tax or a cap 

24   on government spending, our operations, would 

25   only mean we couldn't grow greater than the rate 

                                                               4207

 1   of inflation.

 2                I would make the argument in 

 3   reverse, that it would help everyone regardless 

 4   of gender, age, whatever, because they would not 

 5   be, again, likely to have $14 billion of new 

 6   taxes and fees on registering your car, licensing 

 7   your car, going to a park.  Those fees would not 

 8   be necessary to be implemented on them, as we've 

 9   done before.  

10                I'd even go one step further.  At a 

11   time -- Senator Squadron talked about the 

12   economy.  Anything we could do to make the ground 

13   more fertile for business would also give people 

14   of all genders, all parts of the state, a greater 

15   opportunity of getting employment, which I think 

16   would help them too.

17                So I don't know -- I've never seen 

18   any study.  Maybe you could tell me what it is.  

19   But I don't know how could you figure that 

20   putting a cap on our state spending operations 

21   would possibly impact somebody based on any of 

22   those demographics.  I don't know how that could 

23   really be derived.

24                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.  If through you I might answer the 

                                                               4208

 1   sponsor's question and then continue with my 

 2   questions.  Would that be okay?  

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Yes.  On 

 4   the bill, Senator Krueger?

 5                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Well, I wanted to 

 6   answer the Senator's question.

 7                The way you can find that out, 

 8   Senator, is to review any number of reports that 

 9   have come out that look at the impact of spending 

10   caps on other states.  

11                I have two reports specifically on 

12   Colorado and the impact of the TABOR legislation 

13   that was passed there.  I have a terrific report 

14   that was put out by the Citizens Budget 

15   Commission in October 2010 reviewing the 

16   experience of other states that passed spending 

17   caps, including reviews of Colorado, Washington, 

18   Connecticut, New Jersey.  I have several national 

19   studies looking at the impact of spending caps 

20   and proposed spending caps even by the federal 

21   government, a study by the National Women's Law 

22   Center highlighting the destructive impact 

23   specifically on women, children, the elderly, 

24   people of color.  

25                Because when you put a spending cap 

                                                               4209

 1   and an arbitrary spending cap on budgets, you end 

 2   up having to make specific cuts in state 

 3   spending.  And unfortunately, particularly in bad 

 4   economic times, the disproportionate cuts to 

 5   programs are in fact in education and healthcare 

 6   and services to people with disabilities and 

 7   senior citizens.  

 8                And -- I'm sorry, Mr. President, if 

 9   we could get a little more quiet.  I'm having 

10   trouble concentrating.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Yes.  

12                Ladies and gentlemen, may we please 

13   have some order and some quiet in here for the 

14   debate.

15                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

16                So in fact the research does show 

17   that the spending caps lead to an unequal 

18   distribution of the pain on people within 

19   states.  

20                So in follow-up, do you think that 

21   there might be a way to have a spending cap but 

22   also assure that we are not taking 

23   disproportionate hits on those, our most 

24   vulnerable citizens?  

25                SENATOR ROBACH:   I think that's 

                                                               4210

 1   pretty hypothetical, anecdotal.  I don't know if 

 2   there's any quantifiable information you've 

 3   said.  Yes, clearly we know that taxes, 

 4   registering your car, all those fees and taxes 

 5   you imposed the last two years affect people of 

 6   every income level, every part of the state.  

 7                And, you know, I've listened to you 

 8   intently over 10 years.  I know you're not afraid 

 9   to raise taxes.  You seem to even like them.  I 

10   don't.  I think there's a time and a place for 

11   everything.  And clearly, even in the low-income 

12   part of my district, people said to me, "Senator, 

13   really?  They want to put a tax on sugar and 

14   salt?  What next, Kool-Aid?"  And I said to them, 

15   yeah, some people really don't get it.  They want 

16   to continue to raise and raise and raise.  

17                So I've listened to people in my 

18   district.  I don't want to hurt anybody 

19   disproportionately.  But I think in New York 

20   we've got some great programs, ones I helped 

21   develop -- but we're at a point now, I'll say it 

22   again, just like businesses, just like working 

23   families, just like people on a fixed income.  

24   Not dramatically, just at the rate of inflation, 

25   we need to tighten our belt.  

                                                               4211

 1                If we don't and you vote against 

 2   this, I guarantee you, you're right, Liz, we'll 

 3   be back here to vote for some tax to cover the 

 4   bill and a continued rate of growth greater than 

 5   the rate of inflation.  This to me is a 

 6   no-brainer.  You can try and cloud it with all 

 7   these things.  But either we're going to try to 

 8   live a little bit more within our means and send 

 9   a message to business or taxpayers, or we're 

10   not.  We're going to continue to grow, grow, 

11   grow.

12                And again, you know, the great John 

13   F. Kennedy quote, the situation and crisis at 

14   hand should dictate the right government action.  

15   The time now, just a little, just logically, rein 

16   in spending a little bit at the rate of 

17   inflation.  I don't think that will put anybody 

18   in too dramatic harm's way.

19                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, on 

20   the bill.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

22   Krueger on the bill.

23                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

24                The evidence is not anecdotal.  

25   There has been an enormous amount of economic 

                                                               4212

 1   research from the states that have implemented 

 2   spending caps.  There has been an enormous amount 

 3   of analysis of the impact on states that have 

 4   created spending caps and even gone further and 

 5   trapped themselves in a situation where they 

 6   can't raise revenues or get themselves out of the 

 7   situation if they require a two-thirds majority 

 8   vote to do so.

 9                And in fact Senator Robach's bill 

10   combines these two approaches, both of which 

11   there is substantive economic and quantitative 

12   data showing have caused enormous problems for 

13   other states.

14                And interestingly, I find that 

15   Republican governors and Republican legislatures 

16   in other states who have gone down this road have 

17   needed to figure out how to reverse themselves.

18                Now, the good news about this bill, 

19   as opposed to some bills that we saw earlier in 

20   the year that were variations on this theme, 

21   those bills would have been constitutional 

22   amendments.  And if we were to change our 

23   Constitution, requiring a spending cap or a 

24   supermajority to resolve problems or raise 

25   revenues in emergency situations, then we truly 

                                                               4213

 1   would be in a situation where we might not be 

 2   able to go back.  So the good news is this is not 

 3   an attempt to change the Constitution of New York 

 4   State.  But nonetheless, it's the same bad 

 5   proposal for the State of New York.

 6                Senator Robach, in his description, 

 7   argued that our taxes are too high.  He says I 

 8   like taxes.  I don't think I like taxes.  I like 

 9   to ensure fair taxation.  And I believe that 

10   government needs to provide quality public 

11   services to the people of New York State.  And 

12   unless I could somehow magically ensure that the 

13   State of New York could win the lottery to the 

14   tune of $129 billion, $130 billion every year, 

15   I'm left with the reality that we need to collect 

16   our revenue in some way.  

17                So I do think fair, equitable, 

18   progressive taxation is the best option short of 

19   the lottery to provide money to make sure that we 

20   have roads and bridges, that we have police and 

21   fire, that we have a public school system 

22   throughout the State of New York that ensures 

23   that our young people have an opportunity to get 

24   a quality education and to compete in the world 

25   and the economy that they are in fact inheriting 

                                                               4214

 1   from us and need to do better with.

 2                So yes, I believe in fair taxation.  

 3   I believe in justifiable state budgets.  And I 

 4   don't disagree with Senator Robach that there are 

 5   reasonable questions to be raised about how we've 

 6   made the decisions to raise money and spend 

 7   money.  For the record, I have been here about 

 8   nine years now, and I watched this budget grow 

 9   and our taxes grow years before I was in the 

10   majority, years when I was in the majority, and 

11   now again when I'm in the minority.  So I 

12   actually don't think it's a particularly healthy 

13   partisan blame game who raised taxes when, 

14   because both sides of the aisle did it.  And 

15   records would show more of it happened under 

16   Republican control than Democratic control.

17                But that's not really the point.  

18   The point is how are we going to have a 

19   21st-century economy and a modern justifiable 

20   budget.  

21                I would argue that this proposal, 

22   combining a spending cap with a requirement for a 

23   supermajority vote to get us out of something 

24   that we may have passed ourselves into, is 

25   absolutely the wrong way to go.

                                                               4215

 1                And again, I could read -- I 

 2   probably have several hundred pages of reports 

 3   and quantitative analysis of what went wrong in 

 4   the states that went down the road.  But I'll 

 5   just highlight, for a moment, Colorado.  

 6                Colorado, having put itself into a 

 7   TABOR situation, found that the only way it could 

 8   run government at the state and local level was 

 9   to create a massive number of new public 

10   authorities, new municipal and local governments, 

11   new district governments, each of which had their 

12   own fees and taxes.  So they had to get around 

13   the laws they had passed by creating literally a 

14   monster of government infrastructure.

15                There is no evidence from the 

16   research that they've saved the taxpayers of 

17   Colorado any money.  They have created a much 

18   more expensive infrastructure of government at 

19   the state, local, municipal, county level.  They 

20   have trapped themselves into a situation they 

21   admit they don't really know how to get out of.  

22   They have, in the course of that situation, found 

23   themselves lowering their rate of quality of 

24   education in comparison to other states, reducing 

25   the services that they provide, becoming less 

                                                               4216

 1   competitive as a state government.  And they are, 

 2   I think, a poster-child state for what we don't 

 3   want to do.  

 4                Connecticut has been in a less 

 5   extreme situation, California in a more extreme 

 6   situation recently, where their ability to solve 

 7   their budgetary problems are infamous.  

 8                A study done recently by the 

 9   Citizens Budget Commission here in New York State 

10   lays out the questions New York State needs to 

11   address if it would imagine going forward with 

12   this model.

13                First, what growth benchmarks should 

14   determine the cap?  No other state uses an 

15   inflation-only rate to calculate a cap.  The five 

16   states that used inflation-based caps all 

17   adjusted for population growth to account for 

18   increases in demand for existing services.  I 

19   don't think you're going to see me personally 

20   voting for a spending cap with a supermajority 

21   vote.  But you've got to adjust for inflation 

22   when you factor any of this in.  

23                A growth factor set at the rate of 

24   inflation would likely require the state to 

25   reduce the services it provides.  Costs for some 

                                                               4217

 1   services, like education and healthcare, 

 2   historically grow at rates that exceed inflation 

 3   and even plus, even inflation plus population.  

 4                Limiting overall state spending 

 5   growth to inflation would likely cause spending 

 6   cuts in some areas as portions of the budget with 

 7   faster growth rates consume a larger share of the 

 8   resources and squeeze out other services.  Again, 

 9   why we need to think carefully about the impact 

10   on specific sectors of the state budget if we 

11   were to create a cap.

12                An alternative and more prevalent 

13   benchmark is personal income growth, which is the 

14   basis for caps in 15 states.  This typically 

15   provides for more generous limits.  Based on past 

16   trends in New York, a cap based on personal 

17   income growth would allow growth at nearly twice 

18   the rate of inflation in a typical year.

19                So again, I personally, Liz Krueger, 

20   am not in love with spending caps.  But I would 

21   be much more open for a discussion of how we look 

22   at our budget in the context of personal income 

23   growth, not simply inflation, even adjusted over 

24   one two or three years.

25                Second, again reading from the 

                                                               4218

 1   Citizens Budget Commission report, New York would 

 2   need to avoid the ratchet-down effect experienced 

 3   by Colorado.  As I've already discussed, the 

 4   impact on Colorado has been devastating and 

 5   they've been trying to figure out how to get out 

 6   of the problems that were created when their 

 7   first bill went into effect.  And they also used 

 8   a three-year-inflation average, by the way, with 

 9   their original model.

10                Third, you have to ask the questions 

11   about unintended consequences for local 

12   governments of a state spending cap.  Because in 

13   fact, with a state spending cap what you do is 

14   shift the responsibility or the necessity for 

15   local government to raise more taxes at the local 

16   level as they see that their costs go up but they 

17   can't turn to the state for reasonable growth in 

18   money.

19                In fact, that's the sidebar to 

20   discussion about property taxes in this state 

21   right now.  If the state does pass into law a 

22   property tax cap, it literally means the one tax 

23   that localities now do not need to come to the 

24   State Legislature for will have caps and controls 

25   on them.  Some localities are coming and saying 

                                                               4219

 1   they want us to do that.  I think it's an 

 2   interesting tax policy dilemma, but there are 

 3   localities that say, Yes, stop us from increasing 

 4   our taxes, cap us.  

 5                Well, the problem is, nobody's 

 6   asking us to cap their spending.  So if you're 

 7   not capping local spending but you're capping 

 8   local taxes, something has to give somewhere.  

 9   And that's what this would do at the state 

10   level.  

11                If you're capping state spending but 

12   you still have real costs for the actual delivery 

13   of services -- and we know the vast majority of 

14   those services happen at the local level -- you 

15   are shifting a burden into either existing or 

16   soon-to-be-created fees and tax structures at the 

17   local and county level.  And I think you have to 

18   ask the hard questions about whether you're 

19   capping spending or transferring responsibility 

20   for taxing and spending to a different level of 

21   government.

22                I also think we as elected officials 

23   are responsible, we should be responsible for 

24   making sound budgetary choices, tough budgetary 

25   choices.  And leaving ourselves in a position 

                                                               4220

 1   where we decide to arbitrarily pick some numbers, 

 2   throw them into a math formula and say that's 

 3   where we're going to be, isn't really the 

 4   responsible answer for legislators.  We should be 

 5   doing the hard work each year -- although I 

 6   actually think we should have a two-year budget, 

 7   so we should be doing the hard work in two-year 

 8   cycles to figure out what are the priorities for 

 9   our economy, for our needs for our state, what 

10   are the circumstances that have occurred, and how 

11   are we going to get the money to spend on those 

12   priorities.

13                I find it fascinating that even on a 

14   day where we're talking about approving a 

15   spending cap, there are also bills on this agenda 

16   that take money out of the state budget but don't 

17   explain how we're going to replace it, that 

18   create new programs that will cost the state 

19   money but we don't explain how we're going to pay 

20   for them.  

21                I find it inconsistent for this body 

22   to be moving bills to spend new state money 

23   outside the context of the budget, to move 

24   revenues that have already been allocated for 

25   specific items in the General Fund for other new 

                                                               4221

 1   purposes, and yet to be saying we need to have 

 2   our own hands tied because apparently we can't be 

 3   trusted to pass a budget and keep to it, so we 

 4   need these spending-cap rules.

 5                I don't believe this is the 

 6   definition of responsible, participatory 

 7   democracy, and I really do urge my colleagues to 

 8   spend a little time studying the research and the 

 9   findings from other states around the country of 

10   how this was not a panacea, it was not a magic 

11   bullet, it just allowed new fees, new levels of 

12   government, new dilemmas for states, and it also 

13   translated into disproportionate cuts in programs 

14   that many of us would independently say should be 

15   the highest priorities for our state.  

16                I'll be voting no, Mr. President.  

17   Thank you.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

19   you, Senator Krueger.

20                Any other Senator wishing to be 

21   heard?

22                Seeing none, debate is closed.

23                The Secretary will ring the bell.

24                Read the last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

                                                               4222

 1   act shall take effect on the 30th day.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 6   Ranzenhofer to explain your vote.

 7                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you.  

 8                Just very briefly, I would just like 

 9   to commend Senator Robach for introducing this 

10   spending-cap bill.  I think earlier this year we 

11   passed a constitutional amendment.  

12                Senator Robach, I think you get it.  

13   You understand what's happening in upstate 

14   New York and actually all across this state.  

15   It's not a blame game, but over the last 30 years 

16   spending has gone up 5 to 6 percent a year, well 

17   above the rate of inflation.  And I think the 

18   anecdotal evidence is the job loss, the 

19   population loss in this state.  So I commend you 

20   for bringing this legislation to the floor and 

21   getting it passed today.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

23   you, Senator Ranzenhofer.

24                Senator Robach to explain your vote.

25                SENATOR ROBACH:   Yes, just to 

                                                               4223

 1   explain my vote very briefly.  

 2                You know, I listened very intently 

 3   to the debate.  And a lot of this might make more 

 4   sense to me if we didn't already have those 

 5   progressive taxes and fees.  We are number one in 

 6   taxation and combined taxes.  That's the 

 7   problem.  Anybody with any logic can see there's 

 8   a correlation between spending and taxes.  

 9                And I'm not asking for anything 

10   draconian.  We don't want to hurt anybody.  We're 

11   just saying let's try and live in the rate of 

12   inflation just like we have to do in our own 

13   homes, in our own businesses.  Wouldn't it be 

14   nice, instead of being one in total taxes, 

15   perhaps to be number one in people coming to the 

16   state instead of so many people leaving.  

17   Wouldn't it be nice to change the policy to be 

18   one in job growth rather than in job losses we've 

19   seen, especially in upstate New York.

20                So I think this is a very 

21   straightforward bill, very common sense.  I'll be 

22   voting yes and I hope others will too.  

23                Thank you, Mr. President.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

25   you, Senator Robach.

                                                               4224

 1                Senator Rivera to explain your vote.

 2                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.  

 4                I rise today to vote in the negative 

 5   on this bill.  I agree with most of if not all of 

 6   the points that Senator Krueger brought up.  

 7                As far as the points that Senator 

 8   Robach brought up, as far as taxation is 

 9   concerned, sales taxes and some of the taxes that 

10   we approved here in the last couple of weeks, 

11   those are -- as I've said before, a flat tax is 

12   very regressive as opposed to progressive.  

13   Certainly as opposed to the personal income 

14   surcharge which we have debated many times on 

15   this floor, and I will continue to debate, 

16   because I agree that we need revenue to be able 

17   to run the programs that the state needs to run.  

18                This is unfortunately a gimmick that 

19   will not resolve issues and will actually put a 

20   straitjacket on the state and its ability to deal 

21   with the budget problems in here and in the 

22   future.  So I will be voting in the negative on 

23   this piece of legislation.  

24                Thank you, Mr. President.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

                                                               4225

 1   you, Senator Rivera.

 2                Senator DeFrancisco to explain your 

 3   vote.

 4                SENATOR DEFRANCISCO:   Yes.  By this 

 5   legislation we're responsibly doing what we're 

 6   really asking local governments to do when we 

 7   pass a tax cap.  And that bill's going to be live 

 8   before the end of the week.  I would imagine that 

 9   most people are going to vote with the Governor 

10   and the legislative leaders who negotiated that 

11   tax cap.  

12                We're asking them to operate more 

13   efficiently.  We're asking them to spend within 

14   their means.  We're asking them to provide relief 

15   to their property taxpayers.  It's only right for 

16   we who are telling them to do that, for us to do 

17   the same thing.

18                And it's an excellent bill that 

19   Senator Robach has proposed.  It's showing that 

20   we are going to do exactly what we're asking 

21   local governments and school districts to do, 

22   constrain spending, operate more efficiently.  I 

23   vote aye.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

25   DeFrancisco will be recorded in the affirmative.

                                                               4226

 1                Senator Martins to explain your 

 2   vote.

 3                SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.  I also rise to support this bill 

 5   and to congratulate my colleague Senator Robach 

 6   for introducing this bill.  

 7                You know, I've heard a lot this 

 8   afternoon about how this bill will 

 9   disproportionately affect women, minorities, the 

10   elderly -- when it's just the opposite.  This 

11   state leads the country in one way where we do 

12   not want to lead the country, and that's in 

13   taxes.  And if there's one thing that we should 

14   be concentrating on, it's limiting the growth of 

15   taxes, because taxes are the scourge of everyone 

16   in this state.  Every member of our communities, 

17   regardless of where you live in New York State, 

18   whether you live in urban areas, suburban areas 

19   or rural areas, taxes are the number-one issue 

20   affecting our constituents, all of us.  

21                And all we're asking the state to do 

22   is to provide the same fiscal discipline that 

23   we've asked from local governments and that we 

24   ask from ourselves, from our businesses, from our 

25   local communities, from our schools.  I'll be 

                                                               4227

 1   voting in the affirmative because it's the right 

 2   thing to do for all residents and taxpayers in 

 3   New York State, and it will disproportionately 

 4   benefit everyone.

 5                Thank you, Mr. President.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 7   Martins to be recorded in the affirmative.

 8                Announce the results.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10   Calendar Number 651, those recorded in the 

11   negative are Senators Adams, Dilan, Duane, 

12   Espaillat, Gianaris, Hassell-Thompson, Huntley, 

13   L. Krueger, C. Kruger, Montgomery, Parker, 

14   Perkins, Rivera, Serrano, Smith, Squadron, 

15   Stavisky, and also Senator Peralta.  

16                Ayes, 44.  Nays, 18.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

21   Libous.

22                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Before we 

23   continue, could we go back to the reports of 

24   standing committees, please.  

25                I believe there's a report of the 

                                                               4228

 1   Rules Committee at the desk.  Could we have it 

 2   read?  

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Reports 

 4   of standing committees.  

 5                The Secretary will read.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Skelos, 

 7   from the Committee on Rules, reports the 

 8   following bills:  

 9                Senate Print 511A, by Senator 

10   Maziarz, an act directing the New York State 

11   Energy Research and Development Authority.  

12                Senate Print 755, by Senator Young, 

13   an act to amend the Private Housing Finance Law.  

14                Senate Print 854, by Senator Young, 

15   an act to amend the Highway Law.

16                Senate Print 958C, by Senator 

17   Maziarz, an act to amend the Parks, Recreation 

18   and Historic Preservation Law.

19                Senate Print 1462A, by Senator 

20   LaValle, an act to amend the Real Property Tax 

21   Law.

22                Senate Print 1966A, by Senator 

23   Marcellino, an act to amend the Executive Law.

24                Senate Print 2409C, by Senator 

25   Grisanti, an act to amend the Agriculture and 

                                                               4229

 1   Markets Law.

 2                Senate Print 2466A, by Senator 

 3   Libous, an act to amend the Highway Law.

 4                Senate Print 2544, by Senator 

 5   Bonacic, an act to amend the Real Property Tax 

 6   Law.

 7                Senate Print 2596A, by Senator 

 8   Flanagan, an act to amend the Penal Law.

 9                Senate Print 2737, by Senator 

10   Saland, an act to amend the Penal Law.

11                Senate Print 2918, by Senator 

12   Golden, an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic 

13   Law.

14                Senate Print 2936, by Senator Lanza, 

15   an act to amend the Penal Law.

16                Senate Print 2952B, by Senator 

17   Libous, an act to legalize, validate, ratify and 

18   confirm.

19                Senate Print 3036, by Senator 

20   LaValle, an act to amend the Town Law.

21                Senate Print 3057, by Senator 

22   Seward, an act to amend the Insurance Law.

23                Senate Print 3101, by Senator 

24   LaValle, an act to amend the Town Law.

25                Senate Print 3201, by Senator 

                                                               4230

 1   Hannon, an act to amend the Real Property Tax 

 2   Law.

 3                Senate Print 3335, by Senator Lanza, 

 4   an act to amend the Executive Law.

 5                Senate Print 3649A, by Senator 

 6   Gallivan, an act to amend the Tax Law.

 7                Senate Print 3778B, by Senator 

 8   Martins, an act to amend the Public Authorities 

 9   Law.

10                Senate Print 3872B, by Senator 

11   Maziarz, an act to amend the Public Authorities 

12   Law.

13                Senate Print 4036, by Senator 

14   Golden, an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic 

15   Law.

16                Senate Print 4073B, by Senator 

17   Zeldin, an act to amend the Election Law.

18                Senate Print 4123, by Senator 

19   Ranzenhofer, an act to amend the Education Law.

20                Senate Print 4143A, by Senator 

21   Young, an act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage 

22   Control Law.

23                Senate Print 4223, by Senator 

24   Larkin, an act to amend the General Municipal 

25   Law.

                                                               4231

 1                Senate Print 4240, by Senator 

 2   Larkin, an act to amend the General Municipal 

 3   Law.

 4                Senate Print 4270B, by Senator 

 5   Golden, an act to amend the Civil Service Law.

 6                Senate Print 4333, by Senator 

 7   Carlucci, an act to authorize.

 8                Senate Print 4392, by Senator 

 9   Flanagan, an act to authorize.

10                Senate Print 4435A, by Senator 

11   Robach, an act to amend the General Business Law.

12                Senate Print 4503, by Senator 

13   Nozzolio, an act to amend the Village Law.

14                Senate Print 4514, by Senator 

15   Libous, an act to amend the Real Property Tax 

16   Law.

17                Senate Print 4560, by Senator 

18   Robach, an act to amend the Correction Law.

19                Senate Print 4637, by Senator Lanza, 

20   an act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

21                Senate Print 4677, by Senator 

22   Larkin, an act to amend the Executive Law.

23                Senate Print 4741A, by Senator 

24   Johnson, an act to amend the Education Law.

25                Senate Print 4762, by Senator 

                                                               4232

 1   McDonald, an act to amend the Environmental 

 2   Conservation Law.

 3                Senate Print 4844, by Senator 

 4   Maziarz, an act to direct the New York State 

 5   Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic 

 6   Preservation.

 7                Senate Print 4851A, by Senator 

 8   Saland, an act related to authorizing.

 9                Senate Print 4899, by Senator 

10   LaValle, an act to amend the Local Finance Law.

11                Senate Print 4901, by Senator 

12   LaValle, an act to amend the Village Law.

13                Senate Print 4943, by Senator Young, 

14   an act to amend the Tax Law.

15                Senate Print 5092, by Senator 

16   Seward, an act to amend the Insurance Law.

17                Senate Print 5161, by Senator 

18   Ritchie, an act to amend the Environmental 

19   Conservation Law.

20                Senate Print 5184B, by Senator 

21   Young, an act to amend the Education Law.

22                Senate Print 5260B, by Senator 

23   Hannon, an act to amend the Penal Law.

24                Senate Print 5288, by Senator Lanza, 

25   an act to amend the Correction Law.

                                                               4233

 1                Senate Print 5309, by Senator 

 2   Larkin, an act to amend the Criminal Procedure 

 3   Law.

 4                Senate Print 5323A, by Senator 

 5   Robach, an act to amend the Environmental 

 6   Conservation Law.

 7                Senate Print 5325, by Senator 

 8   Larkin, an act to amend the Criminal Procedure 

 9   Law.

10                Senate Print 5459, by Senator 

11   Seward, an act to authorize the Village of 

12   Herkimer.

13                Senate Print 5504A, by Senator 

14   Saland, an act to amend Chapter 672 of the Laws 

15   of 1993.

16                Senate Print 5523, by Senator 

17   Farley, an act to authorize.

18                Senate Print 5524, by Senator 

19   Flanagan, an act to amend the Education Law.

20                Senate Print 5529A, by Senator 

21   Valesky, an act to authorize the extension of 

22   time.

23                Senate Print 5537, by Senator 

24   Carlucci, an act making an appropriation.

25                Senate Print 5573, by Senator Lanza, 

                                                               4234

 1   an act to amend the Not-for-Profit Corporation 

 2   Law.

 3                Senate Print 5593, by Senator 

 4   Flanagan, an act to amend Chapter 140 of the Laws 

 5   of 1985.

 6                Senate Print 5594, by Senator 

 7   Grisanti, an act to amend the New York State 

 8   Urban Development Corporation Act.

 9                Senate Print 5595, by Senator 

10   Marcellino, an act to amend the Village Law.

11                Senate Print 5601, by Senator 

12   Bonacic, an act to amend the Environmental 

13   Conservation Law.

14                Senate Print 5608, by Senator 

15   Ranzenhofer, an act to authorize the Town of 

16   Amherst.

17                Senate Print 5610, by Senator Young, 

18   an act to amend the Highway Law.

19                Senate Print 5631, by Senator 

20   Golden, an act to amend the Executive Law.

21                Senate Print 5657, by Senator 

22   Seward, an act to authorize the Village of Ilion.

23                And Senate Print 5675, by Senator 

24   Golden, an act to amend the Education Law.

25                All bills ordered direct to third 

                                                               4235

 1   reading.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 3   Libous.

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

 5   could I move to accept the report of the Rules 

 6   Committee.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   There's a 

 8   motion to accept the report of the Rules 

 9   Committee.  All in favor signify by saying aye.

10                (Response of "Aye.")

11                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Opposed, 

12   nay.  

13                (No response.)

14                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

15   report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

17   Mr. President.  

18                Could we now go back to the -- 

19   follow the order of the controversial calendar, 

20   please.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Back to 

22   the controversial reading of the calendar.

23                The Secretary will read.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   746, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 3059, an act 

                                                               4236

 1   to amend the Education Law.

 2                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Explanation.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 4   Libous, an explanation has been requested.

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

 6   Mr. President.  

 7                This bill basically deals with oral 

 8   surgery.  And presently dentists are not oral 

 9   surgeons, but there are a number of oral surgeons 

10   that are also dentists.  And this allows them to 

11   perform, if you're an oral surgeon, procedures of 

12   oral surgery on the face.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

14   Krueger.

15                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  If 

16   the sponsor would please yield.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

18   Libous, will you yield to Senator Krueger?  

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Yes, 

20   Mr. President, I'd be happy to yield.

21                SENATOR KRUEGER:   So dentists take 

22   the position in this bill that their doctoral 

23   training as well as their postdoctoral residency 

24   training is equivalent to that for which a 

25   physician obtains a board certification, 

                                                               4237

 1   including plastic surgery, dermatology, ooh, 

 2   otolaryng -- jolly -- I can't even say it, excuse 

 3   me.  Okay, O-T-O-L-A-R-Y-N-G-O-L-O-G-I-S-T -- or 

 4   orthopedic surgery.

 5                Is this true, that that is the 

 6   position of dentists on your bill?

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   No, no.  

 8   Mr. President, it's not dentists, it's oral 

 9   surgeons.  Let me go back to what I said 

10   earlier.  There are dentists that are oral 

11   surgeons, but there are dentists that are not 

12   oral -- I mean, you have to be an oral surgeon, 

13   not a dentist.

14                So, Mr. President, if you were to go 

15   to your dentist to have a tooth drilled, he would 

16   not qualify under this.  But if you were to go to 

17   an oral surgeon, only oral surgeons qualify under 

18   this bill.  Not a dentist, an oral surgeon.

19                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, if 

20   through you the sponsor would continue to yield.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Do you 

22   continue to yield, Senator?  

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Yes, sure.

24                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

25                So for me to reiterate, so your 

                                                               4238

 1   definition is that oral surgeons are people who 

 2   have doctoral training or postdoctoral training, 

 3   but that is not as a physician but rather is oral 

 4   surgeons within dentistry; is that correct?  

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

 6   Senator Krueger, it's not my position.  But right 

 7   now an OMS has to go through four years of 

 8   undergraduate education, four year of dental 

 9   school, two to four years of medical and surgical 

10   rotations, a two-year residency of 

11   maxillofacial-concentrated surgery.

12                So these are not my -- these are 

13   under the State Education Department.  These are 

14   not my requirements, these are under the State 

15   Education Department.  A regular dentist does not 

16   have to go through that.

17                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, if 

18   through you the sponsor would continue to yield.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Do you 

20   continue to yield, Senator Libous?  

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Of course I would, 

22   Mr. President.  

23                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

24                So now we've clarified we're talking 

25   about oral surgeons as defined by the State of 

                                                               4239

 1   New York SED in the context of dental oral 

 2   surgeons as opposed to M.D. physicians with 

 3   training.

 4                My understanding is that the first 

 5   two years of medical and dental school are 

 6   comparable but the last two years are different.  

 7   The third and fourth years of medical school 

 8   consist of clinical rotations through surgery, 

 9   medicine, psychiatry, pediatrics, obstetrics, 

10   gynecology, et cetera.  The third and fourth year 

11   of dental school is spent primarily in labs where 

12   there is dental training, but not with physician 

13   care in a hospital setting, nor are they 

14   participating in, again, hospital-based training 

15   and exposure.  And that physicians practicing 

16   specifically in a surgical discipline obtain the 

17   bachelor's or master's degree, four to six years, 

18   a Doctor of Medicine degree, four years, and 

19   complete a five-year residency training as a 

20   surgeon.

21                So would the sponsor agree with me 

22   that the training for an M.D. surgeon and the 

23   training for a dental oral surgeon are 

24   substantively different?  

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

                                                               4240

 1   would not agree.  I would only state what is 

 2   specifically in the legislation that's on the 

 3   floor.  

 4                And when it comes to an OMS, you 

 5   know, they meet guidelines that are set by SED 

 6   and have been granted -- they're only those oral 

 7   surgeons that have been granted hospital 

 8   privileges for those specific surgical 

 9   procedures.  And they may practice them in a 

10   hospital or in an office-based setting.

11                So I'm not sure as to what Senator 

12   Krueger was reading from.  And certainly, 

13   Senator, I respect the fact that you had a bunch 

14   of information there, but I'm only debating 

15   specifically to the bill that is before us and 

16   what I know that's in the bill that we've 

17   drafted.

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

19   Mr. President, if the sponsor would --

20                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Do you 

21   continue to yield, Senator Libous?  

22                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Of course.

23                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

24                I'm reading definitions of what the 

25   training requirements are for a physician who 

                                                               4241

 1   completes medical school residency and a surgical 

 2   residency versus my understanding of the training 

 3   requirements for an oral surgeon who goes through 

 4   dental training, just for the record.

 5                So in a follow-through question, 

 6   does the sponsor believe that postdoctoral 

 7   residency training currently received by dentists 

 8   is in fact equivalent to that completed by 

 9   physicians?  

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Their training, 

11   Senator, is extremely similar to plastic 

12   surgeons.

13                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, if 

14   through you the sponsor would continue to yield.

15                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I will.

16                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

17                In other states that have enacted 

18   similar law, what has been the patient care 

19   experience?  

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I can answer that 

21   for you, Mr. President, if you just give me a 

22   second here.  I believe there have been no issues 

23   or problems in other states with oral surgeons.  

24   I have that -- actually, the staff anticipated 

25   this question.  But there appears to be no issues 

                                                               4242

 1   at this time in other states.

 2                And, Mr. President, if I may add 

 3   that these oral surgeons can do this work now.  

 4   If, Mr. President, God forbid somebody is in a 

 5   car accident and they are called to the hospital, 

 6   they do this sort of work now.  They do 

 7   reconstructive surgery right now if there was an 

 8   accident or a trauma situation.

 9                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, if 

10   through you the sponsor would continue to yield.

11                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I will, 

12   Mr. President.

13                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

14                If they do this work now, why do we 

15   need this law?  

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   This will allow 

17   them to do it in a an office-based setting, 

18   Mr. President.

19                SENATOR KRUEGER:   On the bill, 

20   Mr. President.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

22   Krueger on the bill.

23                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I don't support 

24   this bill.  But I have to say that the sponsor's 

25   last answer to me is perhaps the most strong 

                                                               4243

 1   argument for my continuing to not support the 

 2   bill.

 3                To go through, the training to be a 

 4   physician is specific and extensive and most 

 5   relevant for comparisons for this bill.  We are 

 6   talking about physicians who have completed 

 7   residencies and surgical residencies before they 

 8   are doing plastic surgery or surgery, primarily 

 9   known by ear, nose and throat specialists.

10                Dentists go through very specific 

11   training, training I respect.  Oral surgeons in 

12   the context of dentistry go through additional 

13   training.  They do not have medical degrees, nor 

14   do they have residencies in surgery.  

15                The Commission on Dental 

16   Accreditation, an arm of the American Dental 

17   Association, has established certain standards 

18   for accredited oral and maxillofacial surgery 

19   residency programs.  These standards require 

20   instruction in basic science, physical diagnosis, 

21   anesthesia, surgical head and neck anatomy and 

22   clinical physiology, as well as a minimum of 

23   30 months of oral and maxillofacial surgery, to 

24   be included in clinical services within their 

25   four-year residency program.

                                                               4244

 1                They must provide 75 surgical cases 

 2   in their final year, including at least 10 in 

 3   trauma, pathology, orthognathic and 

 4   reconstructive and aesthetic surgery.  They only 

 5   have to do 10 cases in reconstructive and 

 6   aesthetic surgery.  

 7                The Accreditation Council of 

 8   Graduate Medical Education evaluates and 

 9   accredits medical residency programs in the 

10   United States.  In comparison to the standards 

11   for the Commission on Dental Accreditation, the 

12   standards of accreditation of the Council of 

13   Graduate Medical Education are considerably more 

14   stringent and are comparable across surgical 

15   specialties, whether we are referring to plastic 

16   surgery, otolaryn -- you know, it's that word 

17   that I just can't say:  O-T-O-L-A-R-Y-N-G- 

18   O-L-O-G-Y -- ear, nose and throat.  Thank you so 

19   much, Senator DeFrancisco -- or orthopedic 

20   surgery.  Thank you, everyone.

21                Each must demonstrate cases in a 

22   variety of subspecialties in each particular 

23   specialty.  For example, the American Board of 

24   Ear, Nose and Throat Specialties requires a mix 

25   of cases demonstrating proficiency in facial 

                                                               4245

 1   plastic surgery, pediatric OTO, head and neck 

 2   surgery, general OTO, and endoscopy.  The average 

 3   resident in a medical program sitting for board 

 4   examination, whether an OTO resident or a plastic 

 5   surgery resident, will have completed 2,000 

 6   surgical procedures over their four-year 

 7   residency program.  Again, versus 10 for the 

 8   dental residents.

 9                Moreover, those residents who 

10   complete residency and participate in fellowship 

11   training in the subspecialty of facial plastic 

12   and reconstructive surgery participate as either 

13   surgeon or first assistant surgeon on an 

14   additional 800 cases, with a total surgical 

15   volume of approximately 200 rhinoplasties, one of 

16   the most complex cosmetic medical procedures.  

17   There is a difference in the training.  

18                And again, I am particularly 

19   concerned that this bill would allow this kind of 

20   surgery to be performed by dental oral surgeons 

21   in their offices rather than a hospital setting.  

22   When things go wrong in surgery, what is critical 

23   is that you are surrounded by people with the 

24   training and specialties to respond to the 

25   emergencies.  And if this was a bill that allowed 

                                                               4246

 1   continued roles within a hospital setting, I 

 2   would be much more open to this bill.

 3                But the concept that this allows 

 4   people who are not surgeons with a physician M.D. 

 5   training as board-certified surgeons to be able 

 6   to do equivalent surgery in their office settings 

 7   I believe is not in the best interests of 

 8   New Yorkers.  It's not in the best interest of 

 9   patient care.  And I urge us not to pass this 

10   bill today.

11                Thank you, Mr. President.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

13   you, Senator Krueger.

14                Is there any other Senator wishing 

15   to be heard?

16                Seeing none, debate is closed.  The 

17   Secretary will ring the bell.

18                I encourage all Senators to return 

19   promptly to the chamber so we can get on with 

20   this next vote.

21                Read the last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

23   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

25   roll.  

                                                               4247

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

 3   I be called on for a minute?

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 5   Libous.

 6                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I know we're on 

 7   the roll and we're waiting one more second for a 

 8   colleague.  And I'm so pleased that everyone 

 9   listened to my message about an hour ago when I 

10   said please stay close to the chamber.

11                We have another calendar to do 

12   today.  We have quite a bit of work yet in front 

13   of us.  And we're going to go through this 

14   calendar controversial because there are members 

15   who have questions, and certainly that's part of 

16   the process here.  We want everybody to get their 

17   questions out and have members able to answer 

18   those questions.  

19                But we're going to move ahead, 

20   because I am not waiting.  I said that once 

21   before; I was kidding.  I'm serious now.  So 

22   we're being patient because we told one Senator 

23   that we would wait.  But after this moment, I'm 

24   not waiting.  So for whatever reason, if you're 

25   not here you will be marked absent.  Because nice 

                                                               4248

 1   guys finish last.

 2                (Laughter.)

 3                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Read the roll, 

 4   please.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Announce 

 6   the results.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8   Calendar Number 746, those recorded in the 

 9   negative are Senators Alesi, DeFrancisco, Duane, 

10   Gallivan, Hassell-Thompson, L. Krueger, 

11   C. Kruger, Montgomery, Oppenheimer, Parker, 

12   Perkins, Ranzenhofer, Rivera, Saland, and 

13   Serrano.  

14                Absent from voting:  Senator 

15   Huntley.

16                Ayes, 46.  Nays, 15.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                Senator Libous.

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

21   before we proceed, in the spirit of being a nice 

22   guy, I believe Senator Hassell-Thompson has a 

23   group here that she would like to recognize.  So 

24   if I could have unanimous consent from the body 

25   to call on Senator Hassell-Thompson.

                                                               4249

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Without 

 2   objection.  Senator?  

 3                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

 4   you, Mr. President.  And thank you, Senator 

 5   Libous, for allowing me just a moment to 

 6   recognize some students from the Bronx.  

 7                You know that I have had students 

 8   here all year this year.  And today we have 

 9   students from PS 21, PS 68, PS 111, MS 142, Bronx 

10   Charter School for Better Learning, Truman High 

11   School, PS 41, PS 112, the Forward School, Young 

12   Scholars Academy, School of Diplomacy, all led by 

13   Johnnie Garth and other teachers and parents, who 

14   have come to watch government.  

15                And this is our student government 

16   from many of our different schools representing 

17   4th through high school.  Please welcome my 

18   students from the Bronx.

19                Thank you, Mr. President.

20                (Applause.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Welcome 

22   to the chamber.  Thank you for being with us 

23   today.  We offer you the cordialities of the 

24   house.  And please enjoy yourselves today.

25                The Secretary will read.

                                                               4250

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   768, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 4410 --

 3                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

 4   the day.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

 6   is laid aside for the day.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   850, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 1432, an act 

 9   to amend the Education Law.

10                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Explanation.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

12   Saland, an explanation has been requested.

13                SENATOR SALAND:   This bill is a 

14   relatively simple bill, a bill which this house 

15   has passed unanimously a couple of years ago.  It 

16   comes out of a situation back in December of 2006 

17   in which the Regents imposed a requirement upon 

18   all school districts to provide calculators for 

19   certain math and science courses.  

20                The end result was a $100 million 

21   unfunded mandate that those districts could not 

22   have anticipated.  There were districts, 

23   including districts within my Senate district -- 

24   and when I say "district," I'm referring to 

25   school districts -- that paid in excess of 

                                                               4251

 1   $100,000 to provide these calculators.  

 2                This merely says that if you're 

 3   going to impose a mandate -- and I would 

 4   certainly hope that that would not be the case.  

 5   But if the choice of the Regents or the 

 6   Ed Department is to impose such a mandate, you 

 7   cannot impose it after a budget has been adopted 

 8   for a school year, you have to wait for the 

 9   following school year in order for it to be 

10   effective.  

11                And if in fact we look to what 

12   almost happened this year when the Regents 

13   decided that they were going to require school 

14   districts to pay for the Regents exams, and we 

15   were able to provide some amount of funding to 

16   avoid that happening, and some of the exams were 

17   in fact canceled or dropped, that would have been 

18   an example of another unfunded mandate imposed 

19   through either the Regents or the Ed Department 

20   that would have caught school districts totally 

21   unaware, with no plans, having already in many 

22   instances dipped into their reserve funds or fund 

23   balances and having had to endure the cuts in 

24   education that they had to endure.  

25                So I can find no reason why this 

                                                               4252

 1   bill shouldn't pass unanimously, nor do I 

 2   comprehend why the Assembly has ever failed to 

 3   take up this bill.  

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

 5   you, Senator Saland.

 6                Any Senator wishing to be heard?

 7                Seeing none, debate is closed.  The 

 8   Secretary will ring the bell.

 9                Read the last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

13   roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Announce 

16   the results.

17                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18   Calendar Number 850, recorded in the negative:  

19   Senator Duane.  

20                Absent from voting are Senators 

21   C. Kruger, L. Krueger, Huntley, Montgomery, 

22   Perkins, Hassell-Thompson, Espaillat, Peralta, 

23   Parker, Adams, and McDonald.  

24                Ayes, 50.  Nays, 1.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

                                                               4253

 1   is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   856, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 3871, an act 

 4   to prohibit the expenditure of state and local 

 5   funds.

 6                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Explanation.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 8   Lanza.

 9                SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.

11                This legislation would prohibit 

12   state and local governments from providing 

13   funding in support of civil trials being afforded 

14   to enemy combatants' terrorist trials here in 

15   New York.  And to be clear with respect to the 

16   intent of the legislation, it is my intent to do 

17   everything possible to thwart enemy combatants of 

18   America to be afforded civil trials here in 

19   New York, which is the desire and intent of the 

20   Obama administration.  

21                And I feel strongly about that 

22   because I believe that mass-murdering foreign 

23   enemies of America should not be afforded the 

24   same rights and privileges as American citizens 

25   are under the United States Constitution.  And 

                                                               4254

 1   even more than that, they should not be provided 

 2   preferential treatment over and above the 

 3   treatment that would be afforded to our 

 4   soldiers.  

 5                We spent the morning honoring 

 6   veterans.  And by affording enemy combatants of 

 7   America civil trials, they would have greater 

 8   rights than an American soldier.  If an American 

 9   soldier blows up a building or shoots someone, 

10   they would go before a military tribunal, not a 

11   civil trial.  I think if it's good enough for a 

12   soldier, it's certainly more than good for a 

13   determined enemy, a foreign combatant who wishes 

14   to destroy our very way of life.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

16   Breslin.

17                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Mr. President, 

18   would the sponsor yield for a couple of 

19   questions.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

21   Lanza, would you yield for a question?

22                SENATOR LANZA:   Glad to, 

23   Mr. President.

24                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Through you, 

25   Mr. President, the bill states that "No money of 

                                                               4255

 1   the state shall be expended relating to any 

 2   civilian criminal trial of any combatants for 

 3   acts of terrorism in any federal court."

 4                In reference to "any money," what 

 5   would that include?  

 6                SENATOR LANZA:   It is my intent 

 7   that it includes any money which would support in 

 8   any way a civil trial for a terrorist, an enemy 

 9   combatant of America.  So any money that would 

10   allow that to happen, I would hope and it is my 

11   intent that this legislation would prohibit that.

12                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Again, through 

13   you, Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

14   yield.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Do you 

16   continue to yield, Senator Lanza? 

17                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes.

18                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Understanding 

19   your objective, do you know if there's been any 

20   precedents in the past for the elimination of any 

21   state involvement relative to monies expended in 

22   any federal trials in the past?  

23                SENATOR LANZA:   Yeah, there -- 

24   through you, Mr. President, it's my understanding 

25   that monies were provided in support of the civil 

                                                               4256

 1   trial provided for the terrorists who committed 

 2   the act of terror during the first World Trade 

 3   Center bombing.  

 4                And I think since then there are 

 5   many, including former President Clinton, who has 

 6   said that had we known then what we know now, 

 7   that civil trials should not have been afforded.

 8                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Through you, 

 9   Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

10   yield?  

11                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, Mr. President.

12                SENATOR BRESLIN:   In a situation if 

13   the federal government decided to implement their 

14   procedures, right or wrongly, in the City of 

15   New York, and if we adopted this law, wouldn't 

16   that place the City of New York in a more 

17   precarious position than otherwise?

18                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, 

19   through you.  

20                It is my intent to make it 

21   impossible for President Obama or anyone -- 

22   Attorney General Holder -- to afford a civil 

23   trial to an enemy combatant.  So it is the intent 

24   of this legislation that it would become so 

25   untenable, so ridiculous, as I think my colleague 

                                                               4257

 1   is alleging to, that that decision would not be 

 2   made.  

 3                In the event, in the event that the 

 4   Obama Administration or the Attorney General 

 5   decided that they didn't care that that would put 

 6   the city in a precarious position with respect to 

 7   not being able to expend monies in support of a 

 8   trial -- and by the way, by the way, let's talk 

 9   about the cost.  Aside from what I believe to be 

10   the cost to our national security, Mayor Michael 

11   Bloomberg has said that it would cost the City of 

12   New York $1 billion if civil trials for 

13   terrorists were held in Manhattan.  So it would 

14   be my intent that this would persuade anyone who 

15   was thinking of affording a civil trial to 

16   terrorists in New York to change their mind.  

17                In the event that they were to try 

18   to force that through, what would then obviously 

19   be required is that the full bill be footed by 

20   those who seek to have those trials there; 

21   specifically, the federal government.  And at 

22   least it would take the burden, a $1 billion 

23   burden, off of the taxpayers of New York City and 

24   the State of New York.

25                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Again through 

                                                               4258

 1   you, Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

 2   yield?

 3                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, Mr. President.

 4                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Given the fact 

 5   that state legislation to preclude is kind of a 

 6   last resort type of legislation, were there any 

 7   attempts made to sit down and discuss this 

 8   situation with representatives of the federal 

 9   government?

10                SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.  

12                Yes.  I wrote the President, the 

13   administration a few years back.  I wrote the 

14   Attorney General.  I wrote Hillary Clinton with 

15   respect -- I have those letters.  I could hand 

16   them out to my colleagues here with respect to my 

17   strong opposition to providing civil trials for 

18   enemy combatants.  I have not received a 

19   response.  

20                The only response that I know of is 

21   that the President, the Attorney General still 

22   feel very strongly that the terrorists should be 

23   afforded a civil trial in Manhattan, in New York 

24   State.  And I think that would be a grave 

25   mistake.  I think it would weaken our country.  

                                                               4259

 1   Some have proposed that we're strong enough to do 

 2   this.  I don't think anything that weakens you, 

 3   that exposes you, is something that makes you 

 4   stronger.  And so I think it really would be a 

 5   grave mistake.  

 6                We should learn from our mistakes 

 7   during the trial of those who waged the attack in 

 8   the first World Trade Center bombing.  We learned 

 9   that they used our civil discovery proceedings to 

10   learn about our intelligence system.  They 

11   learned how to do it better.  

12                And in fact they were more 

13   successful only a few years later, and it has 

14   become public knowledge that because they had a 

15   civil trial there and were able to exploit our 

16   civil system, a system that was devised to 

17   protect American citizens and no one else, that 

18   because we were foolish enough to allow that 

19   trial during the first World Trade Center 

20   bombing, they were able to come back with 

21   horrific and devastating results during 

22   September 11th.

23                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Thank you to the 

24   sponsor, Senator Lanza.  And thank you, 

25   Mr. President.  No further questions.

                                                               4260

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

 2   you, Senator Breslin.

 3                Senator Squadron.

 4                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Will the sponsor 

 5   yield?  

 6                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes.

 7                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you.  

 8                The sponsor said something about the 

 9   City of New York and Mayor Bloomberg and Police 

10   Commissioner Kelly.  Has the City of New York 

11   weighed in on this bill?  

12                SENATOR LANZA:   I'll say this.  I 

13   believe Mayor Bloomberg has stated very publicly 

14   that he believes that those civil trials should 

15   not be afforded to the terrorists who attacked 

16   the World Trade Center, killing 3,000 Americans 

17   and attacking our nation for the very beliefs 

18   that we hold dear.  And so I would -- not wanting 

19   to speak for my good friend Mayor Bloomberg, I 

20   would imagine that any effort to ensure that 

21   those trials are not afforded in downtown 

22   Manhattan would be something that he would 

23   support.  

24                And as I've said already, the intent 

25   of this legislation is to make sure that we do 

                                                               4261

 1   not afford enemy combatants the same rights as 

 2   American citizens and greater rights than the 

 3   soldiers who put their lives on the line every 

 4   single day to protect our freedoms.

 5                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Through you, 

 6   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

 7   yield.

 8                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, Mr. President.

 9                SENATOR SQUADRON:   I think the 

10   sponsor knows there is no memo of support from 

11   the City of New York.  The City of New York 

12   hasn't weighed in.  

13                The World Trade Center site is in my 

14   district in Lower Manhattan.  When there was 

15   discussion of the trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 

16   in a civil trial, it was going to be in heart of 

17   my district in the federal courthouse in Lower 

18   Manhattan.  I have had meetings that would chill 

19   the blood about some of the existing sites and 

20   targets in my district and some of the costs that 

21   my constituents need to bear every day in order 

22   to protect against those and the cost in dollars 

23   to protect against those.  

24                And I have to tell you, my 

25   recollection from when that was on the table was 

                                                               4262

 1   that it was a billion dollars.  Let me tell you, 

 2   the cost in Lower Manhattan -- not just in 

 3   dollars, but also quality of life -- would have 

 4   been unbearable.  I know that for some this is a 

 5   big national political issue and it's going to 

 6   beat the drum one way or the other.  For us, this 

 7   is a local issue and a fundamental issue to our 

 8   homes.

 9                And at the time -- my question is, 

10   at the time my recollection is that the mayor and 

11   police commissioner were very clear:  This is 

12   going to be a billion dollars, and if we have to 

13   do it, we'll do it.  The first priority is to 

14   keep everyone safe.  In fact, I remember a 

15   briefing that I had about exactly what that would 

16   look like, and that was the message.  

17                Does the sponsor remember a 

18   different message out of the City of New York at 

19   that time?

20                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, no.  

21   Through you, no, I heard that message.  The mayor 

22   said if he had to do it, he would do it.  

23                I'm just trying to make sure he 

24   doesn't have to do it, because I know he doesn't 

25   want to do it.  And I don't want to do it.  And I 

                                                               4263

 1   don't think any of us should want to do it.  I 

 2   think it would be a disgrace to allow these 

 3   people, who continue to want to destroy us, to be 

 4   afforded more rights than the people in the armed 

 5   services who put their lives on the line every 

 6   day to protect the very freedoms which we enjoy.

 7                So I'm trying to help Mayor 

 8   Bloomberg avoid doing what he does not want to 

 9   do, and that is expend one billion dollars of 

10   taxpayer dollars to provide rights for people who 

11   in my opinion, and I'll be very blunt, deserve no 

12   rights.

13                SENATOR SQUADRON:   If the sponsor 

14   would continue to yield.

15                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes.

16                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you.  

17                I think one of the key questions is 

18   do the people of the City of New York deserve the 

19   right to be protected whatever comes and the 

20   right to allow our police commissioner, who has 

21   done such an extraordinary job over the past 

22   decade in protecting us against further attacks, 

23   to have every tool available both from city and 

24   state government.  

25                But as I'm sure the sponsor knows, 

                                                               4264

 1   there have been a number of terrorism trials.  

 2   The Khalid Sheikh Mohammed trial has not moved 

 3   forward in Lower Manhattan.  It would be 

 4   untenable in Lower Manhattan, we agree on that.  

 5   But there have been a number of terrorism trials 

 6   that have moved forward in the courthouse, 

 7   including, as the sponsor talked about, from the 

 8   '93 World Trade Center bombing, also from a 

 9   number of plots, including plots in the New York 

10   City subways, on tunnels.  

11                And let me ask, can we be certain 

12   that the New York City Police Department would be 

13   free to protect the citizens of New York on those 

14   trials if this bill were to pass?

15                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, that 

16   would require an acrobatic leap in logic for me 

17   to even entertain the notion that somehow this 

18   legislation would prevent the New York City 

19   Police Department, the best in the world, from 

20   protecting the citizens of New York City.

21                What this would say is that the 

22   State of New York, the City of New York would not 

23   provide supports by way of a billion dollars in 

24   taxpayer dollars so that we can afford greater 

25   rights to the enemy combatants of America than we 

                                                               4265

 1   do the men and women of the armed services or 

 2   even provide the same rights and privileges as 

 3   the citizens of this great state are afforded by 

 4   the United States Constitution.

 5                And he mentioned the fact that 

 6   there's a trial that's not happening there.  So 

 7   you might ask, well, given the recent decision 

 8   that at least one trial is not going to occur in 

 9   civil court but rather in a military tribunal, 

10   you might be asking, in anticipating the next 

11   question -- because I'm good at that, as well as 

12   I know my colleague -- why would we need to do 

13   this since the President has backed away?  

14                Well, the President has not backed 

15   away.  And there is a threat that these trials 

16   will be held in civil court.  

17                And I read from a statement from our 

18   Attorney General, Eric Holder, when he made the 

19   announcement that at least these initial trials, 

20   as were just referenced by my colleague Senator 

21   Squadron, would not be held in Manhattan.  And 

22   it's not because they decided that it would be 

23   too much for the people of Manhattan to handle, 

24   it's not because they decided that it would cost 

25   the people of the City of New York or the State 

                                                               4266

 1   of New York too much money.  It's because at this 

 2   point they have no choice.  

 3                And the statement that was issued by 

 4   the Attorney General, Eric Holder, which I have 

 5   in regard to this subject, wherein he states that 

 6   it is the desire of the Attorney General's office 

 7   and the President to provide civil trials for the 

 8   enemy combatants.  He says and goes on to say:  

 9   "Unfortunately, since I have made that decision, 

10   members of Congress have intervened and imposed 

11   restrictions blocking the administration from 

12   bringing any Guantanamo detainees to trial in the 

13   United States, regardless of the venue."  He says 

14   "unfortunately."

15                He goes on to say:  "We will 

16   continue to seek to repeal those restrictions."  

17   He says:  "Our national security demands that we 

18   continue to prosecute terrorists in federal 

19   court, and we will do so."  This is the Attorney 

20   General of the United States of America.

21                And I think I understand why he and 

22   I have such a grave disagreement on the subject, 

23   because he finishes by saying that "innocent 

24   Americans and citizens of foreign countries alike 

25   were murdered by ruthless terrorists.  This case 

                                                               4267

 1   has always been about delivering justice for 

 2   those victims and for their surviving loved ones 

 3   and nothing else."  

 4                Well, this is about that.  But what 

 5   he and I disagree with on this is that it's about 

 6   a lot more.  It is about the very future and 

 7   stability and strength and survival of our 

 8   nation.  He believes it's only about those 

 9   victims.  I believe it is about the national 

10   security of our country.  

11                And you mentioned those other trials 

12   that were held, to say, "Well, you see, we did it 

13   and everything was okay."  Well, everything 

14   wasn't okay.  Because by providing those trials 

15   in that way in a civil court through civil 

16   discovery, our enemies went to school on how to 

17   beat us, and they came back with a vengeance, and 

18   they're more effective.  

19                I don't want to give them another 

20   chance.  I don't want to take them to school 

21   again.  I don't want them to come back and be 

22   more effective in destroying us than they were on 

23   September 11th.  And that's why I understand the 

24   concerns with this legislation.  But your very 

25   concerns are the very reason I advanced this 

                                                               4268

 1   legislation, because I want to make it impossible 

 2   for those trials to be held in New York in a 

 3   civil forum.

 4                SENATOR SQUADRON:   If the sponsor 

 5   would yield for a final question.

 6                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, Mr. President.

 7                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you very 

 8   much.

 9                Is "enemy combatant" defined in this 

10   legislation?  

11                SENATOR LANZA:   Enemy combatant.  

12   Let's see what it says here.  It says 

13   "Notwithstanding any provision of the law to the 

14   contrary, no monies of the state, any political 

15   subdivision thereof, or public authority shall be 

16   expended related to any civilian criminal trial 

17   of enemy combatants for acts of terrorism in any 

18   federal court in the State of New York."

19                So it would seem that anyone who is 

20   an enemy combatant who commits an act of 

21   terrorism would be covered under this 

22   legislation.

23                SENATOR SQUADRON:   I thank the 

24   sponsor.  On the bill.

25                "Enemy combatant" is not defined in 

                                                               4269

 1   this legislation.  And I appreciate the sponsor's 

 2   production of where my line of questioning was 

 3   going, but just to be very clear, my concern 

 4   isn't why do we need this legislation, these 

 5   trials aren't going to happen.  My concern is 

 6   this legislation puts my community at risk, 

 7   because it's possible these trials will happen.  

 8   In fact, as defined in the bill, these trials 

 9   have been happening.  

10                In the Southern District of the 

11   State of New York, the United States Justice 

12   Department has had a better record of convicting 

13   those who are accused of terrorism, those who 

14   have committed terrorism, those who have killed 

15   American citizens than any other office in the 

16   nation.  And many of those cases, there was never 

17   a consideration are they an enemy combatant, are 

18   they not.  They were folks who committed acts of 

19   terrorism.  I consider them enemies of our 

20   nation.  Certainly in some cases they created 

21   situations like combat.  

22                There's no definition here.  We're 

23   not relying on some federal definition of enemy 

24   combatant.  We are risking preventing Ray Kelly 

25   and the New York Police Department, the best 

                                                               4270

 1   police department in the world, we are risking 

 2   preventing the Southern District of the State of 

 3   New York from being able to protect the citizens 

 4   of the City of New York and prosecute terrorists 

 5   to the fullest extent of the law.  

 6                That's the problem with this 

 7   legislation, that if we had this legislation in 

 8   place, my community could not be protected, my 

 9   community would not be able to enjoy the 

10   resources of the greatest police department in 

11   the world, would not be able to enjoy the 

12   resources of this State Legislature and this 

13   state government in protecting them when there 

14   are cases that come before the Southern 

15   District.  

16                Or, alternatively, the Southern 

17   District would be prevented from prosecuting 

18   cases, and it would be more likely the 

19   terrorists, terrorists, would go free, because 

20   they would end up being prosecuted in some other 

21   jurisdiction that doesn't have the expertise, 

22   doesn't have the experience, doesn't have the 

23   seasoned prosecutors that we have in the Southern 

24   District.

25                The problem with this legislation -- 

                                                               4271

 1   right here I have a list in front of me in the 

 2   last six years of six major convictions that the 

 3   Southern District got in the federal courthouse 

 4   in Lower Manhattan by trying terrorists.  That 

 5   will no longer be an option.  Or, more 

 6   concerning, if it is an option, the people of my 

 7   community will not be able to be protected.

 8                I understand on this issue, and it's 

 9   happened on the floor before, the temptation to 

10   make this issue something larger, make this issue 

11   about the George Bush tribunals or make this 

12   issue about some other sort of simple waving of 

13   the flag.  

14                But I've got to tell you, this issue 

15   is about my constituents.  It's about hundreds of 

16   thousands of people who live within a few blocks 

17   of the courthouse in the Southern District where 

18   trials are going on right now against those 

19   convicted of terrorism, where the New York City 

20   Police Department right now is protecting their 

21   homes and their children, and it is about 

22   preventing the police department, preventing our 

23   state government from protecting those families 

24   and preventing the Southern District from doing 

25   the job that they do better than anyone else.

                                                               4272

 1                That's the reason I can't support 

 2   this legislation and the reason that I really 

 3   urge all of my colleagues, whether this 

 4   legislation has a same-as in the Assembly or not, 

 5   to please stand with me for my community, for the 

 6   New York City Police Department, and please help 

 7   me protect my community.  

 8                Thank you, Mr. President.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

10   you, Senator Squadron.

11                Senator Gianaris.

12                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.  Would the sponsor yield for a 

14   question?  

15                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Will you 

16   yield, Senator Lanza?  

17                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, Mr. President.

18                SENATOR GIANARIS:   I've heard the 

19   answers to my colleague's questions, and I'm just 

20   trying to get at the heart of -- assuming a 

21   worst-case scenario, because I understand what 

22   the bill is trying to do -- but assuming that a 

23   trial, a terrorism trial is coming to New York 

24   anyway at the federal level, if this were enacted 

25   into law, what would this allow the NYPD and 

                                                               4273

 1   others to do to protect our citizens while that 

 2   trial was taking place?

 3                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

 4   Mr. President.  So let's just analyze the options 

 5   here if this legislation becomes law.  First, I 

 6   believe that it would prevent those trials from 

 7   coming to Manhattan.  And that is the intent of 

 8   this legislation.  I've been clear about that and 

 9   honest about that.  

10                But assuming President Obama or 

11   Attorney General Holder say to heck with the will 

12   of the people in New York, to heck with the fact 

13   that they're not going to provide resources by 

14   way of taxpayer dollars, a billion dollars, we're 

15   still going to do it, we're going to shove it 

16   down their throats, we're going to have those 

17   trials there, well, then I would imagine what 

18   would happen is that the federal government -- 

19   not the taxpayers of New York City, not the 

20   taxpayers of New York State -- the federal 

21   government would then be required to foot the 

22   bill.

23                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Would the 

24   sponsor continue to yield.

25                I understand that that's what he 

                                                               4274

 1   imagines would happen, that's what he would like 

 2   to happen.  But let's project forward into the 

 3   future.  Let's project beyond this 

 4   administration.  Let's assume the country elects 

 5   some right-wing lunatic for president who's a 

 6   fiscal conservative and doesn't want to spend a 

 7   dime protecting these trials because it's a local 

 8   responsibility.  These are things out of our 

 9   control, what the federal government will do.  

10   Passing this bill or not is in our control as to 

11   what the state or our localities will or will be 

12   allowed to do.  

13                So again, assuming the worst-case 

14   scenario, which is the federal trial comes anyway 

15   and the federal government decides not to expend 

16   any resources because it is a local 

17   responsibility, what does this legislation do or 

18   what would it allow our local law enforcement to 

19   do to protect our citizens?  

20                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

21   Mr. President.  So I suppose the only way this 

22   scenario plays itself out in your hypothetical is 

23   if some left-wing lunatic person lives in the 

24   White House or some --

25                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Right-wing.

                                                               4275

 1                SENATOR LANZA:   Well, I'm telling 

 2   you how it would happen.  It would only happen by 

 3   virtue of a left-wing lunatic in the White House 

 4   shoving this down the throats of the people of 

 5   New York.  It would only happen if a left-wing 

 6   lunatic Attorney General of the United States 

 7   would shove it down the throats of the people of 

 8   the State of New York and would decide that they 

 9   didn't care about your concerns about the cost.  

10                And not only would they shove it 

11   down the throats of the people of New York and 

12   say, Hey, we believe we should aid and abet, 

13   provide comfort and convenience for terrorists 

14   who want to destroy us, once they've made that 

15   decision, what you're saying is then they would 

16   do that and say that they weren't going to foot 

17   the bill?  I have more faith even in left-wing 

18   lunatic presidents, that if they were to make 

19   that decision, they would pay the bill.

20                SENATOR GIANARIS:   If the sponsor 

21   would continue to yield.

22                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes.

23                SENATOR MARCELLINO:   Mr. President.  

24   Mr. President.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator.

                                                               4276

 1                SENATOR MARCELLINO:   Not for 

 2   anything, but we've had a right-wing shot and we 

 3   had a left-wing shot.  Can we keep the shots down 

 4   and just keep the debate on a more elevated 

 5   tone?  Thank you.

 6                SENATOR GIANARIS:   I'll be happy to 

 7   do so, Mr. President.  I just want to point out 

 8   the debate up until now has been very focused on 

 9   partisan attack on a federal administration.

10                But be that as it may, moving aside 

11   from that, the issue is whether you have a 

12   lunatic of any side in there, we don't control 

13   what's going to come out of the federal 

14   government.  And so there is the possibility that 

15   there's a contingency that the federal government 

16   chooses to have a trial here and yet decides not 

17   to provide the resources or not adequately 

18   provide the resources.  

19                Let's say they'll provide some 

20   safety but not to the degree we think it's 

21   necessary.  This bill would prohibit our local 

22   law enforcement from doing what is necessary to 

23   protect its citizens, is that not true?

24                SENATOR LANZA:   No, that is not 

25   true, Mr. President.  Not at all.

                                                               4277

 1                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Well, please 

 2   explain how it's not true.

 3                SENATOR LANZA:   Well, you know, I 

 4   listened to Senator Squadron talk about the fact 

 5   that this bill would prevent the police 

 6   department from protecting the citizens of the 

 7   City of New York.  That's not true.  That's 

 8   absolutely not true.  The Police Department of 

 9   the City of New York protects the people of the 

10   city every single day, and they do it, I think, 

11   better than anyone anywhere in the country, if 

12   not the world.

13                He said that somehow this would 

14   force the trial to go to a place that didn't have 

15   the expertise to do it, somehow the federal court 

16   in New York is the only place where the expertise 

17   exists to do that.  That's ridiculous.  That's 

18   ridiculous.  What you're saying is a military 

19   tribunal does not have the experience, does not 

20   have the competence, does not have the ability to 

21   do justice?  

22                If you feel that strongly about 

23   that, then why is it that you don't cry out, cry 

24   out to ensure that the American men and women who 

25   serve our nation in the armed forces, why do you 

                                                               4278

 1   not cry out and say they should have a civil 

 2   trial?  If you think they don't have the 

 3   expertise and they can't get it done and they 

 4   can't do justice, where is the shock, where is 

 5   the outrage when every single day soldiers who 

 6   protect our freedoms are tried at military 

 7   tribunals?  

 8                You're wrong.  They have the 

 9   expertise.  And you're wrong, we would be safe.  

10   We would be safe because by virtue of this 

11   legislation there would be no civil trial for 

12   enemy combatants in New York City.

13                SENATOR GIANARIS:   If the sponsor 

14   would continue to yield.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Do you 

16   continue to yield, Senator?  

17                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, Mr. President.

18                SENATOR GIANARIS:   With due 

19   respect, that last answer had nothing to do with 

20   my question, which is what does this bill 

21   prohibit our local law enforcement from doing if 

22   in fact the trial is held in New York and if in 

23   fact the federal government decides to provide 

24   less-than-adequate protection for that trial.  

25                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, it 

                                                               4279

 1   doesn't speak to that.  It says that the 

 2   taxpayers of the City of New York, the State of 

 3   New York would not have to spend a billion 

 4   dollars providing rights to enemy combatants 

 5   which I believe they do not deserve.  

 6                And so you can draw whatever 

 7   conclusion you want, but the point of this is 

 8   clear.  I'm not ducking behind a piece of 

 9   legislation to say that I'm trying to do 

10   something that I'm not.  I am saying very clearly 

11   what it is I'm trying to do.  I'm trying to make 

12   sure that those who want to destroy us are not 

13   provided more rights than the people who are 

14   trying to protect us.

15                And with respect to the fact that no 

16   harm will come from these trials, look at the 

17   history.  You're wrong.  Senator Squadron said 

18   that this was local and this was an issue that 

19   affects his district.  It affects all of us.  I 

20   had many personal friends, people whom I loved, 

21   grew up with and knew, who were killed that day.  

22                And in part -- and I never try to 

23   take blame away from where it belongs.  The blame 

24   is with those people who want to destroy us.  But 

25   they were helped, they were helped out in their 

                                                               4280

 1   mission to carry out those murders and that 

 2   attack because of the fact that a prior colleague 

 3   of theirs was afforded a civil trial.  And during 

 4   that civil trial, for those of you who aren't 

 5   attorneys, in a civil trial there is civil 

 6   discovery.  And through civil discovery they were 

 7   able to go to school to learn about our 

 8   weaknesses so that they can come back stronger, 

 9   and they did.  And more people died because of 

10   it.  

11                And so to say that somehow having a 

12   civil trial is something that should happen or 

13   saying that somehow people won't be protected by 

14   virtue of doing it is wrong.  People in this 

15   country were exposed because of the fact that a 

16   civil trial was afforded to an enemy combatant.

17                SENATOR GIANARIS:   If the sponsor 

18   would continue to yield.

19                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes.

20                SENATOR GIANARIS:   I'm going to try 

21   one more time here.

22                SENATOR LANZA:   Sure.

23                SENATOR GIANARIS:   And the sponsor 

24   is very good at explaining why he put this bill 

25   in.  He's very good at continuing to debate 

                                                               4281

 1   Senator Squadron's points or others' points.  But 

 2   I would ask if I can get an answer to my 

 3   question, and I'll try to ask it a different 

 4   way.  

 5                If a federal trial is held on 

 6   terrorism in New York, under this legislation 

 7   would we be able to have a single member of the 

 8   NYPD protecting us during that trial?

 9                SENATOR LANZA:   So let me answer it 

10   this way.  So if you go to the car dealership and 

11   you want to buy a new car and they tell you the 

12   car cost $40,000 and you say you don't have the 

13   money, you don't get the car.  

14                The idea here is we don't pay for 

15   it, we're not going to get it.  So your concerns 

16   should be addressed that way.  We're not going to 

17   get the trial if we pass this legislation.  And 

18   if we do get the trial because the president 

19   decides that he doesn't care, he's going to do it 

20   anyway, then the federal government would pay for 

21   it.

22                SENATOR GIANARIS:   And I'll ask one 

23   final question as I try to get this answer from 

24   the sponsor, if he would continue to yield.

25                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, I'm 

                                                               4282

 1   answering the questions very directly, and I'll 

 2   continue to answer questions as long as you have 

 3   questions.

 4                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Okay.  I 

 5   appreciate that, Senator Lanza.

 6                I'm going to ask this as a yes-or-no 

 7   question.  If there's a federal trial in New York 

 8   and the mayor of New York City and the police 

 9   commissioner determine that the federal 

10   protection that is being provided to New Yorkers 

11   during that trial is inadequate, would this bill 

12   permit them to lend a single member of the NYPD 

13   to the protection to make sure that its citizens 

14   are protected beyond what the federal government 

15   is doing, yes or no?  

16                SENATOR LANZA:   So through you, 

17   Mr. President.  Senator Gianaris, you can ask the 

18   questions the way you want.  I'm going to answer 

19   them the way I want.

20                And the answer to the question is 

21   that if the federal government decided to ignore 

22   the reality of this law, if it becomes law -- and 

23   I hope it does -- if they decide to ignore the 

24   will of the people, then they would pay for 

25   the -- they'd foot the bill, not the taxpayers.  

                                                               4283

 1   But again, I'm being very clear.  I do not 

 2   believe -- in fact, I know -- that if there's no 

 3   money to support a trial, there will be no trial.

 4                SENATOR GIANARIS:   And if I can ask 

 5   one follow-up, if the Senator would continue to 

 6   yield.

 7                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, Mr. President.

 8                SENATOR GIANARIS:   What if the 

 9   federal government agrees, under your scenario, 

10   to provide the protection, to pay for the 

11   protection, but we don't think they're doing 

12   enough?  Would this bill not prohibit the City of 

13   New York from providing additional protection 

14   beyond what the federal government is doing?

15                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, we 

16   can play the hypothetical game all day long with 

17   what the federal government will do, what they 

18   won't do, they're going to pay for half of it, 

19   they're going to pay for all of it, they'll 

20   continue to decide that they want to have a civil 

21   trial -- I mean, we can do this all -- this is 

22   really simple.  It really is.  

23                If you agree with me that enemy 

24   combatants of the United States of America who 

25   are determined to destroy this nation do not 

                                                               4284

 1   deserve to have a civil trial, then you should 

 2   support this legislation because it says that we 

 3   will not support a civil trial financially in 

 4   New York State.  That's all it does.  And by not 

 5   supporting something financially, typically you 

 6   end up not having it.  And that clearly is the 

 7   legislative intent with this legislation.  

 8                If someone has a better idea -- 

 9   because we're talking about the what-ifs and the 

10   hypotheticals, and I'd really like to talk about 

11   if the objection is the belief that there should 

12   be a civil trial, which I know some people truly 

13   believe, like the President, like the Attorney 

14   General, like some people here -- and I can 

15   respect that opinion; I disagree with it -- we 

16   should talk about that instead of going around 

17   the way here and act as though the problem with 

18   this bill from your point of view is that somehow 

19   the people of the City of New York are not going 

20   to be protected by the Police Department of the 

21   City of New York.  Let's not play that game.  

22   That's disingenuous.  

23                The people of the City of New York 

24   have always been protected by the police officers 

25   in New York City, they will always be protected 

                                                               4285

 1   the police officers in New York City.  They are 

 2   the greatest police department on earth.  That 

 3   will not change by virtue of this legislation.  

 4   Everyone knows that.  Everyone sees that.  So 

 5   let's talk about what this is really about, a 

 6   difference of opinion with respect to whether or 

 7   not enemy combatants should be afforded civil 

 8   trials.  I believe they should not.  

 9                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

10   Senator Lanza.  

11                On the bill, Mr. President.

12                The sponsor is correct, this bill is 

13   simple.  The problem is the bill is also very 

14   dangerous.  I want to -- since he's so intent on 

15   talking about the bigger issue that this bill 

16   actually doesn't address directly, I'll be happy 

17   to answer his question for him.  I do not support 

18   civil trials for enemy combatants.  We are in 

19   agreement on that issue.  

20                The difference lies in a bill that 

21   is trying to get at something that we don't have 

22   any jurisdiction over, and does so in a way that 

23   puts New Yorkers at risk.  A vote in favor of 

24   this bill is a vote to put people of New York at 

25   risk of danger of terrorist attacks, of local law 

                                                               4286

 1   enforcement not providing the protection that 

 2   they would like to because we would strip them of 

 3   the ability to fund those efforts.

 4                If the sponsor and those who support 

 5   this bill are interested in dealing with this 

 6   issue appropriately, they should write a letter 

 7   to their federal authorities, they should run for 

 8   Congress if they want to run for Congress and 

 9   deal with this where the decision's actually 

10   made.  

11                The fact is, whether or not federal 

12   civil trials are held in New York is not a 

13   decision for the New York State government, it is 

14   a decision for the federal government to make.  

15   And they're going to make it no matter what we 

16   say here.  The only thing this is doing is 

17   putting a gun to our own heads and saying "Do 

18   what we want or I'm going to shoot."  

19                That is not an intelligent way to 

20   govern, my colleagues.  We run a dangerous risk 

21   of exposing people to terrorism exactly when what 

22   we're trying to do is prevent additional acts by 

23   preventing civil trials, which I agree with you 

24   on.

25                This bill is clearly not the way to 

                                                               4287

 1   do it.  Denying law enforcement the ability to do 

 2   their job at a most sensitive time and during a 

 3   most sensitive trial is insane.  I will be voting 

 4   no, and I encourage my colleagues to join me.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 6   Squadron.

 7                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Mr. President, I 

 8   thank my colleague.  

 9                And just to clarify a point Senator 

10   Lanza mentioned in his debate with Senator 

11   Gianaris, just to be very, very clear.  When 

12   you're talking about civilian criminal trials, 

13   which exist today, they are currently happening 

14   in my district in Lower Manhattan today.  The 

15   Southern District has multiple convictions on 

16   civilian criminal trials in the last ten years on 

17   people who were never considered with this enemy 

18   combatant question one way or the other.  The 

19   Southern District every day has these trials, and 

20   they are great at it.

21                Under this legislation, the police 

22   department may no longer be able to protect my 

23   community.  This has nothing to do with military 

24   tribunals.  My view that within the civilian 

25   context of the Southern District is the best in 

                                                               4288

 1   the nation is shared broadly.  Let me be clear.  

 2   Within the civilian context, the Southern 

 3   District is the best in the nation.  Military 

 4   tribunals aside.  Perhaps they're better, perhaps 

 5   they're worse.  It's irrelevant to this bill.  

 6                What is relevant to this bill is we 

 7   have the best civilian prosecutors in the nation 

 8   in Lower Manhattan.  We have hundreds of 

 9   thousands of families, of residents and families 

10   in Lower Manhattan.  And if we have this bill, we 

11   will have the New York City Police Department 

12   unable to protect them.  It's that simple.

13                Please do not be distracted by the 

14   larger question about President Bush and 

15   President Obama.  This is about 35,000 new 

16   residents, 10,000 schoolchildren, over a hundred 

17   thousand families in Lower Manhattan being 

18   protected while the best prosecutors in the 

19   nation go about their work.

20                Thank you, Mr. President.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Any other 

22   Senator wishing to be heard?

23                Senator Montgomery.

24                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Yes, 

25   Mr. President.  

                                                               4289

 1                I rise to just object to the fact 

 2   that we have devolved into referring to the 

 3   president of our United States -- meaning that we 

 4   are in my opinion, insulting the presidency.  

 5   That is extremely important to every American.  

 6   My colleague Senator Lanza referred to the 

 7   president as a left-wing nut and --

 8                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

10   Lanza, why do you rise?  

11                SENATOR LANZA:   Point of 

12   privilege.  

13                Senator Montgomery, that's not what 

14   I did.  I was responding to what Senator Gianaris 

15   did after what Senator Squadron did.  He talked 

16   about this being about some George-Bush- 

17   administration tribunal thing.  I don't know 

18   where he got it; you can ask him about that.  

19   Senator Gianaris then followed up and said that 

20   what if we had some right-wing president, lunatic 

21   president, quite clearly after Senator Squadron 

22   was talking about President Bush.  

23                I did not mention President Obama's 

24   name in that dialogue.  I said, "Well, it would 

25   only happen if we had a left-wing lunatic 

                                                               4290

 1   president, I suppose."  

 2                I don't believe it would happen, and 

 3   I've made that very clear.  I believe President 

 4   Obama would honor the reality of the laws of the 

 5   State of New York.  If the law says we were not 

 6   providing support by way of funding, I believe 

 7   that President Obama would honor that and either 

 8   not have those trials or pay the bill.  I've said 

 9   that repeatedly.  So in effect, what I'm saying 

10   is I believe the president would never go through 

11   with trials in the face of this legislation.

12                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Mr. President, 

13   I stand corrected.  He referred to him as a 

14   left-wing lunatic and Holder as a left-wing 

15   lunatic.  And furthermore, it's in his memo, he 

16   refers to the president by name and Holder by 

17   name.

18                So my point is I don't think this is 

19   the level that we want to devolve to, to be in, 

20   as it relates to the way that we refer to the 

21   president of the United States.  That's the point 

22   that I wanted to make, Mr. President.  Thank you.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

24   you, Senator.

25                Any other Senator wishing to be 

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 1   heard?

 2                Debate is closed.  The Secretary 

 3   will ring the bell.

 4                Read the last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

11   Perkins, do you wish to be heard?  

12                SENATOR PERKINS:   I just want to 

13   take a moment to explain my vote, because 

14   apparently during the last debate President Obama 

15   was called, admittedly, a left-wing lunatic.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

17   Perkins, we're -- we were admonished by Senator 

18   Marcellino before to clean up the decision on 

19   this.

20                SENATOR PERKINS:   Yeah, just to 

21   explain my vote.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   And we 

23   really don't need to further this and escalate it 

24   where we've been already.

25                SENATOR PERKINS:   I appreciate 

                                                               4292

 1   that.  But it has been escalated because upon 

 2   clarification it was reestablished exactly, 

 3   facetiously, what was said.  

 4                And I'm personally offended by it.  

 5   I would not want him to say that any more than I 

 6   would want anyone to call him a cracker or any 

 7   other similar kind of derogatory, disrespectful 

 8   language for someone that's elected and 

 9   represents people.

10                So I just want to, for the record, 

11   hope that we don't have to go down that road ever 

12   again.  While I'm here, anyway.

13                Thank you.  I vote in the negative.

14                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, 

15   point of personal privilege.  Mr. President, 

16   point of personal privilege.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   

18   Senator -- Senator Lanza --

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, are 

20   we on a roll call right now?  

21                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   We're on 

22   a roll call right now.  

23                Senator Perkins, how do you vote?  

24                SENATOR PERKINS:   I vote in the 

25   negative.

                                                               4293

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 2   Perkins will be recorded in the negative.

 3                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, to 

 4   explain my vote.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 6   Fuschillo is ahead of you, Senator Lanza, to 

 7   explain your vote.

 8                SENATOR LANZA:   Point of personal 

 9   privilege.  Mr. President --

10                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.

12                SENATOR LANZA:   -- personal 

13   privilege.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   That's 

15   not available on a roll call, I've been informed.

16                Senator Fuschillo.

17                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:   Thank you very 

18   much, Mr. President.

19                I think the words "unconscionable" 

20   and "appalling" come to me when I think of this 

21   issue.  And I want to thank my colleague Senator 

22   Lanza for bringing this issue to the floor.  

23                What a disgrace and an insult to the 

24   families and the individuals that were killed on 

25   9/11, and especially the families that are 

                                                               4294

 1   fighting right now for respect of their memory, 

 2   to think that the trials of the individuals that 

 3   killed them could have potentially been here in 

 4   New York.  

 5                Senator Lanza, this is more of an 

 6   issue of patriotism to me, an issue of respect 

 7   for the families, and I'll be voting in the 

 8   affirmative.

 9                Thank you, Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

11   Fuschillo to be recorded in the affirmative.

12                Senator Lanza to explain your vote.

13                SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  

15                First on the point of personal 

16   privilege.  To Senator Perkins and Senator 

17   Montgomery, I could stand here and make up 

18   something that you would say and then be offended 

19   by it.  I'm glad we have a transcript of this 

20   proceeding.  You should read it later.  

21                I'll say it again, I did not call 

22   President Obama a left-wing lunatic.  I did not.  

23   So read the statement.  I said, in response to 

24   Senator Gianaris, who said and talked about a 

25   right-wing lunatic president, I said if we had 

                                                               4295

 1   one.  If we had one.  That's pretty clear.  

 2                So if you feel the need to get up 

 3   and gratuitously suggest that somehow I said 

 4   something I didn't, shame on you.

 5                On the bill, or my explanation.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   To 

 7   explain your vote.

 8                SENATOR LANZA:   This is a very 

 9   simple piece of legislation.  I believe that 

10   enemy combatants of the United States of America 

11   do not deserve to have a civil trial.  I think, 

12   more than that, to do so would endanger this 

13   country.  We saw that during the first trial, 

14   where enemy combatants went to school, through 

15   civil discovery, came back and they got the job 

16   done better by attacking us with greater impact 

17   and greater carnage.  

18                I believe they shouldn't have more 

19   rights than people who put on the uniform and 

20   protect our liberties every day.  I believe they 

21   shouldn't have the same rights as a civilian who 

22   is protected, a citizen, under the United States 

23   Constitution.  And I believe that if you're a 

24   foreign enemy combatant and you attack this 

25   country, that the place for you to receive 

                                                               4296

 1   justice is a military tribunal, the same place 

 2   that a member of the armed service, a member 

 3   of -- a man and woman who protects us in the 

 4   armed services receives that justice.  

 5                And that's why I support this 

 6   legislation.  Because as I said, I do believe 

 7   that the president would honor the law, this 

 8   president or any president would honor our laws 

 9   and this reality and there would not be a civil 

10   trial here in New York.  And that precisely is 

11   the intent of this legislation.  

12                Thank you, Mr. President.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

14   you, Senator Lanza.  You will be recorded in the 

15   affirmative.

16                Senator Liz Krueger to explain your 

17   vote.

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

19                This debate was fascinating.  

20   Someone just argued why they were voting for the 

21   bill, because of the memory of the victims of 

22   9/11 and from a sense of patriotism.  And in fact 

23   it is from that memory of the victims of 9/11 in 

24   my Borough of Manhattan and my sense of 

25   patriotism that I must vote no.

                                                               4297

 1                I have the utmost respect for our 

 2   Constitution.  And our Constitution is what 

 3   protects our freedoms, our rights, and assures 

 4   that our laws will be upheld.  And so I believe 

 5   in a judicial system, a fair trial process for 

 6   any and all people who break our laws.  

 7                I have equal concerns with many 

 8   people today who vote yes on this bill about what 

 9   the costs would have been if this specific trial 

10   was in a specific courthouse in Manhattan.  But I 

11   dread the thought, as my colleague Senator 

12   Squadron said, of suppose the federal government 

13   decides they are going to do specific cases in a 

14   specific location in New York State and we didn't 

15   have the money to do the kind of 

16   security-guarantee work that was needed.

17                I think it's a terrible mistake to 

18   vote for this bill today and to limit our own 

19   ability to both protect our citizens and the 

20   importance of our Constitution.  So it's a 

21   patriotic act to vote no on this bill.  

22                Thank you, Mr. President.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

24   Krueger will be recorded in the negative.

25                Senator Parker to explain your vote.

                                                               4298

 1                SENATOR PARKER:   Mr. President, to 

 2   explain my vote.  

 3                One, let me thank Senator Lanza for 

 4   bringing his bill to the floor.  And I understand 

 5   his intentions, and I don't disagree with them 

 6   from an intention perspective, although I don't 

 7   think that this bill actually gets us where we 

 8   need to be.

 9                When you talk about terrorists, 

10   terrorists by definition aren't military 

11   combatants.  Military combatants refer to 

12   military, which means they're associated with a 

13   nation.  If you are fighting soldier against 

14   soldier, then you're at war with a nation and 

15   that combat is governed under the Geneva 

16   Conventions.  Terrorism is not governed under the 

17   Geneva Conventions and by definition falls out of 

18   the context of a military tribunal.  So by 

19   definition, terrorist acts are in fact attacks on 

20   civilians and are dealt with in civilian trials.

21                I also find myself at odds, 

22   unfortunately, with my good friend Senator 

23   Fuschillo in this notion that it's patriotic and 

24   respects the memory of those who were killed on 

25   9/11 to in fact do the trial in New York.  I 

                                                               4299

 1   think just the opposite.  I have lost many people 

 2   at 9/11.  It was a horrible day for all of us.  

 3                But in fact I think in the same way 

 4   that this nation is built on a judicial system, 

 5   Mr. President, that says that you can face your 

 6   accuser, that in fact having a trial in the place 

 7   in which the crime happened is actually totally 

 8   consistent with the laws, the procedures and the 

 9   culture of our society and our government.

10                And so I'm going to be voting no on 

11   this and hope and suggest that my colleagues vote 

12   no on this bill as well.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

14   Parker to be recorded in the negative.

15                Senator Robach to explain your vote.

16                SENATOR ROBACH:   Yes, 

17   Mr. President, to explain my vote.  

18                This may come as a surprise to 

19   everybody, I'm going to completely disagree with 

20   my colleague Senator Parker.  

21                This should be based on these people 

22   getting a fair venue somewhere to declare guilt 

23   or innocence.  Now the question becomes -- and I 

24   think there is a place for the people in this 

25   room -- where is that best place.  I don't know 

                                                               4300

 1   if there's a definition.  But clearly, by these 

 2   own people's admission, this was an attack on 

 3   this country where those citizens of our state 

 4   beared the burden in their death in those towers 

 5   going on and those attacks at the Pentagon and 

 6   Pennsylvania.  

 7                To this American person, this 

 8   New Yorker, that's clearly an act of terrorism, 

 9   to me no different than if they parachuted in in 

10   uniform and started shooting people on the street 

11   who had nothing to do with military.

12                Given that determination, I feel 

13   very much that they should be treated as enemies 

14   of this country if they are guilty.  And they 

15   will get a fair trial in a military tribunal and 

16   I do think, as Senator Lanza's pointed out, a 

17   much fairer venue similar to what our own troops 

18   would get if there was a violation.  

19                And then lastly, to some of the 

20   points that it's the role of Congress, not this 

21   body, I couldn't disagree more.  You are going to 

22   bear potential attack again in billions of 

23   dollars.  We just got done debating a bill on 

24   taxes where people were concerned if we capped 

25   spending who might get hurt.  Well, where's the 

                                                               4301

 1   billion dollars going to come from from 

 2   New Yorkers who have already been devastated to 

 3   cover that cost?  

 4                This to me makes all the sense in 

 5   the world.  I'm very happy to vote in the 

 6   affirmative.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 8   Robach will be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                Announce the results.

10                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11   Calendar Number 856, those recorded in the 

12   negative are Senators Adams, Avella, Breslin, 

13   Espaillat, Gianaris, Hassell-Thompson, Huntley, 

14   L. Krueger, Montgomery, Parker, Peralta, Perkins, 

15   Rivera, Serrano, Squadron, Stavisky, and 

16   Stewart-Cousins.  Also Senator Sampson.

17                Ayes, 44.  Nays, 18.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   937, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 5160, an 

22   act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

                                                               4302

 1   act shall take effect immediately.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   951, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 5262, an 

10   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

11                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Explanation.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

13   Ritchie, an explanation has been requested.  

14                SENATOR RITCHIE:   This bill amends 

15   the Vehicle and Traffic Law to eliminate the 

16   additional attachment that is currently required 

17   to maintain along with the registration for 

18   farm-plated vehicles.  

19                When you go in to register a farm 

20   vehicle now, you have to fill out a form that 

21   designates all the roads that the farmer will 

22   travel on within a 25-mile radius.  It's a 

23   mandate on the DMV staff and more paperwork 

24   that's required for the farmer.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Read the 

                                                               4303

 1   last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

 8   1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

10   is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   954, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 2467A, an 

13   act to amend the Tax Law.

14                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Explanation.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

16   Libous, an explanation has been requested.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Did someone 

18   request an explanation, Mr. President?  I would 

19   be happy to give one at this time.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Yes, 

21   Senator Libous.

22                SENATOR LIBOUS:   What this bill 

23   does, Mr. President and my colleagues, it takes a 

24   penny from the gasoline tax and puts it into the 

25   Dedicated Highway Trust Fund.  Right now that 

                                                               4304

 1   penny goes to the General Fund.

 2                As you know, I have been an advocate 

 3   for the past five years to clean up the Dedicated 

 4   Highway Trust Fund.  Right now we raid the fund 

 5   for about a billion dollars and use it for 

 6   General Fund expenses.  That's wrong, because the 

 7   fund is for road and bridge repair.  That's why 

 8   we established it a number of years ago.

 9                This takes a penny from the motor 

10   fuel tax, the 8 percent tax that's on gasoline.  

11   It will take a penny this year and put it in into 

12   the Highway Trust Fund, take an additional penny 

13   each of the next five years, so that that money 

14   doesn't go into the General Fund to pay for 

15   general government, but it goes for roads and 

16   bridges like the Dedicated Highway Trust Fund was 

17   established by this body to do.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

19   Liz Krueger.

20                SENATOR KRUEGER:   People are 

21   getting a little ahead of themselves.  Thank 

22   you.  Will the sponsor please yield, 

23   Mr. President.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

25   Libous, will you yield for a question?  

                                                               4305

 1                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, if 

 2   Senator Krueger didn't ask me a question I'd be 

 3   disappointed.

 4                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I don't want to 

 5   disappoint the sponsor, Mr. President.

 6                So I've read the bill and I've 

 7   spoken to our finance staff, and as the Senator 

 8   just explained, it moves up a penny per year.  

 9   And over a five-year period we're showing it will 

10   cost the State of New York $966.3 million to the 

11   General Fund.  Would the sponsor agree or 

12   disagree with that estimate of loss to the 

13   General Fund?

14                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, it 

15   doesn't -- if I may answer this question, it 

16   doesn't cost the State of New York anything.  

17   It's a matter of setting priorities as to where 

18   the State of New York spends its money.  

19                And the value of spending the money 

20   here will go into road and bridge repair.  Which 

21   will put labor back to work, Mr. President, 

22   because DOT has had no money to do road and 

23   bridge repair, will put New Yorkers back to work, 

24   contractors working again.

25                There is not a matter of where you 

                                                               4306

 1   get the money from.  The money is already in the 

 2   budget.  We have a $136 billion budget.  It's a 

 3   matter of priorities as to how you spend the 

 4   money.  So to me, Mr. President, spending the 

 5   money on public works, plus we have -- a report 

 6   came out from the Department of Transportation 

 7   most recently that talked about the deterioration 

 8   of our roads and bridges, and particularly our 

 9   bridges.  And certainly if Senator Little was 

10   here, she would talk about the bridge in her 

11   district that had a catastrophic incident a 

12   number of years ago.

13                So, Mr. President, we all have our 

14   different priorities, we all have different 

15   places that we think the State of New York should 

16   spend money.  I, for one, happen to think that 

17   the money should come from the General Fund and 

18   this penny should go to put the hardworking men 

19   and women, many of our friends in the labor 

20   unions that are out of work, and the contractors, 

21   back to work.

22                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, if 

23   through you the sponsor would continue to yield.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

25   Libous, will you continue to yield?  

                                                               4307

 1                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I will, 

 2   Mr. President.

 3                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

 4                It was a great speech but I think 

 5   misunderstood my question.  I'm not disagreeing 

 6   that this money, if it was in the Dedicated 

 7   Highway and Bridge Fund, could be used for any 

 8   number of items as he just told us, including 

 9   putting people to work.  

10                I asked him what the impact would be 

11   on the General Fund if we were to take 

12   $966.3 million out of the General Fund and what 

13   would we not pay for or whose jobs would we not 

14   continue to have if we, quote, prioritize by 

15   moving to Dedicated Highway and Bridge and out of 

16   the General Fund.  Particularly in light of, I 

17   believe, Senator Libous's vote for a spending cap 

18   earlier today and the new limits that would apply 

19   for our ability to have money for the General 

20   Fund, what would we be laying people off from or 

21   ceasing to fund because we wouldn't have the 

22   $966.3 million in the General Fund?

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

24   think Senator Krueger is confused.  Let me go 

25   back to my answer from before.  

                                                               4308

 1                Senator Krueger, I don't intend to 

 2   lay off anybody.  This is money that's going to 

 3   put people to work.  This is money that's going 

 4   to go into road and bridge construction.  This is 

 5   money that's going to come out of the General 

 6   Fund.  

 7                And yes, it's a $136 billion 

 8   budget.  I think we would do what we have always 

 9   done in the past, is negotiated here as to what 

10   the priorities are.  Certainly the Governor 

11   handed up earlier this year a priority budget.  

12   He cut general government 10 percent.  If we 

13   can't find a list of priorities that we can agree 

14   on -- I think the difference here is priorities.  

15   Senator Krueger's priorities are different than 

16   mine.  

17                I would rather take the money out of 

18   the General Fund, repair our roads and bridges, 

19   and put people to work.  And yes, there would be 

20   some sacrifices, maybe in the Medicaid system or 

21   maybe some other areas.  But at the same time, we 

22   need jobs in this state.  We need to put people 

23   back to work.  And there's nothing better than 

24   doing construction jobs so that our contractors, 

25   our laborers, our unions can go back to work.  

                                                               4309

 1   And that's what this will do.  

 2                It's a matter of priority, Senator 

 3   Krueger.  Your priorities and my priorities are 

 4   different.

 5                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, on 

 6   the bill.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   On the 

 8   bill, Senator Krueger.

 9                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I think we're 

10   either having a semantic argument or a 

11   disagreement about the term "fungibility" in 

12   economics.  And fungibility basically means you 

13   can spend a dollar here or spend a dollar here, 

14   but you either have the dollar or you don't have 

15   the dollar.

16                So yes, the Senator is saying he 

17   wants to pass a bill today that would apply, 

18   proactively over the next five years, of taking 

19   revenue out of the General Fund and putting it in 

20   the Dedicated Highway and Bridge Fund.  He says 

21   that he prioritizes those jobs over other jobs 

22   that that money is being used to pay for through 

23   the budget today.  

24                We may agree or disagree that the 

25   new highway jobs he wants to hire people for are 

                                                               4310

 1   of higher value or higher priority than the 

 2   teachers we would lay off if we took the dollars 

 3   out of the General Fund which may be used for 

 4   educational aid to our localities today and put 

 5   it into the Dedicated Highway Fund.  I don't even 

 6   know that I want to have the argument about 

 7   whether a construction job on a highway is worth 

 8   more or less than a nurse's job in a hospital or 

 9   a teacher's job in our school system today.  I 

10   would actually argue that's why we pass a budget 

11   every year.  That's why we passed a budget in 

12   this house a few months ago.  It was a priority 

13   document.  It was a document that said we have 

14   this much revenue and we're going to spend it in 

15   that way.

16                What particularly disturbs me about 

17   this bill, no disrespect to prioritizing the 

18   importance of our Dedicated Highway and Bridge 

19   Fund needs, is that we are attempting to do a 

20   significant budget bill outside the context of 

21   the budget.  People are not being asked to vote 

22   in this document, in this bill today, that yes, I 

23   raised my hand to vote to lay off X number of 

24   teachers and use the money instead for roads and 

25   highways.  We're simply being asked vote to take 

                                                               4311

 1   dollars from the General Fund and commit them to 

 2   this other purpose.

 3                But the end of the sentence is being 

 4   left off.  If we were to do this, and to do this 

 5   separate from an actual full budget document or 

 6   full budget debate, we would be knowingly or 

 7   unknowingly voting to cut funding from the 

 8   General Fund, which is used for teachers, for 

 9   nurses, I believe even for construction projects 

10   in a variety of ways.

11                So what I don't like is this is not 

12   how we're supposed to do budgeting.  We're 

13   supposed to deal with budget issues within a 

14   document or documents called budget documents.  

15   We're supposed to -- I completely agree with 

16   Senator Libous -- prioritize how we collect our 

17   revenue and how we spend our revenue through a 

18   budget process, and we recently completed one.

19                This is a freestanding bill that 

20   will be tying our hands to the tune of 

21   $966.3 million that we will not have in the 

22   General Fund and not be able to continue to fund 

23   programs we currently operate or actually, 

24   knowingly, have to cut another $966.3 million out 

25   of these programs we're currently funding, 

                                                               4312

 1   because if we pass this into law we will have no 

 2   choice.

 3                And again, I bring it back to the 

 4   spending cap debate of earlier today.  If we were 

 5   to pass a spending cap and then we were 

 6   continuing the pattern of outside the context of 

 7   any budget debate, budget document, continue to 

 8   willy-nilly approve new programs or remove 

 9   funding from the General Fund for other programs 

10   we care about the most --

11                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

12   will Senator Krueger yield for a question?  

13                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I would be happy 

14   to yield for a question, Mr. President.  

15                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Proceed, 

16   Senator Libous.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Senator Krueger, 

18   do you know that presently the Dedicated Highway 

19   Trust Fund is raided every year?  

20                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes, 

21   Mr. President, I do.

22                SENATOR LIBOUS:   If she would 

23   continue to yield.

24                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Senator Krueger, 

                                                               4313

 1   do you know how much the Dedicated Highway Trust 

 2   Fund is raided every year?  

 3                SENATOR KRUEGER:   No, I do not 

 4   specifically.  But I bet Senator Libous does.

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   About a billion 

 6   dollars comes out of the dedicated trust fund and 

 7   goes into the General Fund.

 8                And, Mr. President, does Senator 

 9   Krueger know where that money goes?  

10                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I will happily 

11   hear the answer, Mr. President.

12                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President and Senator Krueger.

14                About $250 million of that goes into 

15   running the Department of Motor Vehicles, which 

16   should come from the General Fund.  And the 

17   remainder of that goes to snow and ice removal, 

18   which used to come from the General Fund but, 

19   because of budget shortages years ago, the fund 

20   was raided.

21                Now, what I want to do is put the 

22   money back in the dedicated trust fund in a 

23   reasonable manner over a period of time.  So, 

24   Senator, we are already raiding the fund to the 

25   tune of a billion dollars and using it for 

                                                               4314

 1   regular operations.  So again, I go back to my 

 2   point that this is just a matter of priorities.  

 3   And if I may, Senator, I don't ever believe I 

 4   said I wanted to lay off teachers.  To go back to 

 5   my colleague Senator Lanza, I would say go back 

 6   to the transcript.  I was just saying that in a 

 7   $136 billion budget there are various priorities 

 8   that one would choose.  

 9                You are saying that I would lay off 

10   teachers and other workers to put construction 

11   workers to work.  That is certainly not my 

12   intent.

13                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, if 

14   through you the sponsor would yield.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

16   Libous, will you yield for a question?  

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I will, thank you.

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

20   Senator.

21                SENATOR KRUEGER:   When did we start 

22   raiding this fund to the tune of a billion 

23   dollars a year?  

24                SENATOR LIBOUS:   My guess is it 

25   would have been in the late '90s.  I think in the 

                                                               4315

 1   late '90s.

 2                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

 3   Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

 4   yield?  

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I will.  But I 

 6   know what the next question is going to be.

 7                (Laughter.)

 8                SENATOR KRUEGER:   And did we make 

 9   the decision to raid these funds through a budget 

10   document any number of years since the late 

11   '90s?  

12                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

13   Senator Krueger, it was a horrible mistake that 

14   the Legislature made at that time.  And now what 

15   I would like to do and I have been trying to do, 

16   Senator and Mr. President, for the last five 

17   years is to correct that mistake.  Because Lord 

18   knows none of us in this room are perfect.  And 

19   not every piece of legislation we pass or vote 

20   for or vote against is perfect legislation.  

21                And in this case the Legislature -- 

22   Senator Krueger, you're correct, I stand with you 

23   and make your statement correct, that at that 

24   time the Legislature made a change.  I have been 

25   trying to correct that change for over five years 

                                                               4316

 1   now.

 2                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, if 

 3   I may continue on the bill.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Continue 

 5   on the bill, Senator Krueger.

 6                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you.

 7                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  I 

 8   appreciate the sponsor's answers to my questions, 

 9   and I believe he is confirming the position I am 

10   taking.  He's arguing a mistake was made since 

11   the '90s in the budget process to take a billion 

12   dollars out of the Dedicated Highway and Bridge 

13   Trust Fund.  

14                I will point out for the record in 

15   the vast majority of those years since these 

16   raids started, my colleague on the other side of 

17   the aisle was in the controlling seats to make 

18   these decisions vis-a-vis the budget of the State 

19   of New York.  And I respect that he said terrible 

20   mistakes were made.

21                Mistakes can be rectified and I 

22   would even argue should be rectified within the 

23   context of an overall budget debate and budget 

24   document.  Mistakes need to be redressed, 

25   priorities need to be debated and made in the 

                                                               4317

 1   context of a full budget discussion:  What are we 

 2   going to raise money for, what are we going to 

 3   use it for?  

 4                He explained right now it's used, 

 5   instead of for bridges and highways, that this 

 6   money is used to pay for snow removal on bridges 

 7   and I think highways.  If we don't have that 

 8   money for snow removal, we have to ask ourselves 

 9   the question:  What will that impact be?  How 

10   many people won't have jobs doing snow removal?  

11   What is the impact if our bridges and our 

12   highways are not cleaned of snow?  

13                He pointed out that right now that 

14   money is raided for other purposes in the DMV.  

15   We have to ask ourselves the question, as we 

16   should as a Legislature through the budget 

17   process, do we care if we don't have a 

18   functioning DMV?  Or will we choose to increase 

19   fees and taxes in the context of our cars and our 

20   trucks and our driver's licenses and our auto 

21   registrations?  

22                Maybe, maybe we will all think that 

23   is a better priority way to fund DMV in the 

24   absence of not having the money in there for snow 

25   removal or for the other functions of the 

                                                               4318

 1   Department of Motor Vehicles.  A reasonable, 

 2   healthy debate, one that should be done in the 

 3   context of the budget, not as a freestanding bill 

 4   that removes money from the General Fund without 

 5   actually having the complete discussion about 

 6   what happens and what do we lose instead.

 7                Which is why I do believe we should 

 8   vote no on this bill, and I shall do so.  Thank 

 9   you, Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

11   you, Senator Krueger.

12                Senator Savino.

13                SENATOR SAVINO:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  On about the bill.

15                I'm going to rise in support of this 

16   piece of legislation.  A functioning 

17   transportation system is critically important to 

18   the economic vitality of the State of New York.  

19   We know that in the City of New York no one would 

20   ever question whether or not we should preserve 

21   or strengthen the New York State transit system.  

22   For the upstate region and for the suburban 

23   areas, the bridges, roads and highways are the 

24   equivalent of our MTA.  

25                When I first got here to the 

                                                               4319

 1   Legislature a few years ago there was a lot of 

 2   debate about the idea of whether or not we should 

 3   give people a gas tax holiday.  Similar to now, a 

 4   tank of gas was at an all-time high, it was about 

 5   $4 a gallon.  And we all know that New York City 

 6   has a very high sales tax on each gallon of gas.  

 7   And it was at that time that I found out, Senator 

 8   Libous, that one of the things we do with that 

 9   gas sales tax that we collect here in the State 

10   of New York, it's supposed to go to the Dedicated 

11   Bridge and Highway Trust Fund, but in fact we had 

12   been raiding it for years, as has already been 

13   discussed here, to pay for other things that 

14   should be paid for out of the General Fund.  

15                Well, I voted for that gas tax the 

16   first time when in fact it turned out to be 

17   nothing more than a gimmick.  I didn't vote for 

18   it when it came up a few weeks ago because I did 

19   not believe, after having spent a few years here, 

20   that, one, it was going to provide any relief to 

21   the people who were paying high gas prices at the 

22   pump, and, two, it presented another danger to 

23   the Dedicated Bridge and Highway Trust Fund.  

24                Two years ago former Governor 

25   Paterson, when he put forward his budget, one of 

                                                               4320

 1   the things he did is he raided the Dedicated 

 2   Bridge and Highway Trust Fund.  And we saw 

 3   contractors all around the State of New York and 

 4   projects all around the State of New York that 

 5   were critically important stopped in their 

 6   tracks.  In fact, right outside here in Albany, 

 7   right by the tollbooth, there was a tremendous 

 8   project that literally came to a halt and the 

 9   contractors couldn't meet their payroll, 

10   jeopardizing the livelihood of hundreds of 

11   construction workers.

12                This should not be about a choice 

13   between teachers or caseworkers or construction 

14   workers.  In reality, what we should be doing is 

15   funding the Dedicated Bridge and Highway Trust 

16   Fund, as the gas tax is supposed to, because it 

17   creates good-paying jobs.  Yes, union jobs.  And 

18   Lord knows they're near and dear to my heart.  

19   But those jobs also are high-paying jobs and 

20   those contractors generate income that comes back 

21   to the General Fund.  They lease equipment.  They 

22   meet payrolls.  They pay their employees.  They 

23   pay sales tax on products and goods and services 

24   all related to those projects.

25                So it all comes back to the General 

                                                               4321

 1   Fund.  But if we continue to raid the Dedicated 

 2   Bridge and Highway Trust Fund to pay for things 

 3   that we're supposed to pay for anyway, we're not 

 4   going to have that revenue.  We cannot become an 

 5   economy that is only that of public employees.  

 6   We must also do everything we can to generate 

 7   other forms of employment.  And this fund 

 8   specifically does just that.

 9                So I'm going to vote for this bill 

10   because I believe that we need to do everything 

11   possible to maintain our bridges, our highways, 

12   our roads and we must do everything possible to 

13   generate more income so that we can continue to 

14   pay for those things that we all believe are 

15   important, like teachers and ice and snow removal 

16   and Department of Motor Vehicles and everything 

17   else that government is supposed to do.  

18                Thank you, Mr. President.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

20   you, Senator Savino.

21                Any other Senator wishing to be 

22   heard?

23                Seeing none, the debate is closed.  

24   The Secretary will ring the bell.

25                Read the last section.

                                                               4322

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 

 2   act shall take effect April 1, 2012.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 7   Oppenheimer to explain your vote.

 8                SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:   I'm voting 

 9   yes.  And I'm voting yes on behalf of all the 

10   people whose cars' axles have been broken on 

11   Route 17 because there isn't enough money to 

12   repair the enormous, enormous potholes on that 

13   road.  I'm voting yes for the two bridges that we 

14   have closed, local bridges, because they do not 

15   any longer meet the necessary standards.

16                It is a very serious situation that 

17   I think may not be appreciated everywhere in the 

18   state, but it is very serious for those of us who 

19   have this kind of devastation within our Senate 

20   districts and within our own communities.  So I 

21   definitely am voting yes for this bill.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

23   Oppenheimer to be recorded in the affirmative.

24                Announce the results.

25                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

                                                               4323

 1   Calendar Number 954, those recorded in the 

 2   negative are Senators Adams, Espaillat, Huntley, 

 3   L. Krueger, Parker, Perkins, Rivera and Serrano.  

 4                Ayes, 54.  Nays, 8.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   981, by Senator Alesi, Senate Print 1931, an act 

 9   to amend the Correction Law.

10                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Explanation.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

12   Alesi, an explanation has been requested.

13                SENATOR ALESI:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.

15                This bill, very simply, would 

16   mandate that work-release programs for inmates 

17   will not be allowed to operate in areas that are 

18   zoned exclusively residential.  Thank you.  

19                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

20   Rivera.

21                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.  If the sponsor would yield for a 

23   few questions.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

25   Alesi, will you yield for a question?  

                                                               4324

 1                SENATOR ALESI:   Yes, Mr. President.

 2                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, Senator 

 3   Alesi.  Through you, Mr. President.  

 4                Senator Alesi, could you expand a 

 5   little bit on that explanation?  It is very clear 

 6   on the face of it that it is meant to make sure 

 7   that this can't happen.  What is the reasoning 

 8   behind the bill?

 9                SENATOR ALESI:   Very simple.  

10   Work-release programs by their nature help people 

11   who are coming out of the system, help them get 

12   valuable opportunity to work outside of the 

13   prison.  And in many instances we have found that 

14   they can pose a threat to people who are living 

15   in the residential areas.  

16                And so this does not end the 

17   work-release program.  It simply says that if 

18   you're in a purely, specifically zoned 

19   residential area that you cannot participate in a 

20   work-release program in a residential area.

21                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

22   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

23   yield.

24                SENATOR ALESI:   Yes.

25                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

                                                               4325

 1   Mr. President.

 2                Does this mean, Senator Alesi, that 

 3   if there is a work-release program currently 

 4   established that is in an area that is zoned 

 5   strictly as residential, these programs would no 

 6   longer be -- they would be illegal, therefore 

 7   they would have to be ended?  

 8                SENATOR ALESI:   That's exactly the 

 9   point.  Through you, Mr. President.  Anybody 

10   that's in the system is a potential threat, 

11   especially when they're in a residential area, a 

12   zoned specifically residential area.  

13                And this not only works for the 

14   protection of the people that are in those 

15   residential areas, it also helps the people that 

16   are in the work-release program.  Because it 

17   takes away any possible temptation for them to 

18   either burglarize or do some other things while 

19   they're trying to be rehabilitated and trying to 

20   get work experience outside the system.

21                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.  On the bill.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   On the 

24   bill.

25                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, Senator 

                                                               4326

 1   Alesi.

 2                I stand today to strongly, very 

 3   strongly oppose this piece of legislation.  The 

 4   purpose of work-release programs, as Senator 

 5   Alesi stated, is to allow for individuals who are 

 6   incarcerated, when they are coming out of an 

 7   institution, to be able to become productive 

 8   members of society again.  

 9                There are many factors that aid in 

10   making sure that someone can make that 

11   transition -- certainly family, certainly 

12   somewhere to live.  But employment is certainly 

13   one of the most important if not the most 

14   important part of this process.  To have someone, 

15   to have someone be able to provide for themselves 

16   financially means that they will be able to 

17   become productive members of society again.

18                I will then add to that that the 

19   bulk of the incarcerated prisoner population in 

20   the state comes from downstate, certainly from 

21   districts like the one I represent in the 

22   northwest Bronx.  Just thinking about the place 

23   where I reside, physically in the place where I 

24   reside, only four blocks away it is zoned as 

25   mixed-use.  So there can be some residential, but 

                                                               4327

 1   certainly some commercial.  Only four blocks away 

 2   it is strictly residential.  

 3                The building that I live in is a 

 4   six-story building with about six apartments per 

 5   floor and between two and three people per 

 6   apartment.  I'm certainly not good at math, but 

 7   you can start multiplying.  The building behind 

 8   me is a 12-story building that has hundreds if 

 9   not thousands of people living in it.

10                The reason I point this out is to 

11   say that the rest of the city and certainly most 

12   of the districts where these individuals would 

13   come become to are in situations that are very 

14   similar to this.  These individuals came from our 

15   communities, and they're coming back to our 

16   communities.  We certainly want them to become 

17   productive members of society again.  

18                If we are to say that there are 

19   programs that are currently working, that are 

20   currently serving the purpose of being able to 

21   integrate them back into society and now they 

22   would not be able to be in a place that is 

23   strictly residential, in a place like New York 

24   City it becomes almost impossible for them to 

25   exist.  And certainly the ones that might be 

                                                               4328

 1   existing now would not be able to just up and 

 2   move even if it's four blocks away from where 

 3   they are.

 4                I believe that the purpose of this 

 5   has -- I can certainly understand the purpose of 

 6   it.  But I believe that ultimately it would have 

 7   a very negative effect.  And since we are looking 

 8   to have these individuals come back to our 

 9   communities and become productive members of it, 

10   to try to put something in front of their tracks 

11   to trip them up, if you will, by not allowing 

12   some of these programs that are already operating 

13   to continue to operate is a very big problem.

14                I strongly oppose this bill.  I 

15   opposed it in committee.  I brought the same 

16   concerns there.  I oppose it here on the floor.  

17   I would ask that my colleagues consider doing the 

18   same.  I will be in the negative on this bill.  

19                Thank you, Mr. President.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

21   you, Senator.

22                Any other Senator wishing to be 

23   heard?

24                Seeing none, the debate is closed.  

25   The Secretary will ring the bell.

                                                               4329

 1                Read the last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Announce 

 8   the results.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10   Calendar Number 981, those recorded in the 

11   negative are Senators Adams, Avella, Diaz, Duane, 

12   Espaillat, Gallivan, Gianaris, Hassell-Thompson, 

13   Huntley, L. Krueger, C. Kruger, Montgomery, 

14   Oppenheimer, Parker, Perkins, Rivera, Sampson, 

15   Serrano, Stavisky, and Stewart-Cousins.  

16                Ayes, 41.  Nays, 20.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1011, by Member of the Assembly Englebright, 

21   Assembly Print 7279, an act to amend Chapter 138 

22   of the Laws of 1998.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

                                                               4330

 1   act shall take effect immediately.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6   Calendar Number 1011, those recorded in the 

 7   negative are Senators Avella, Hassell-Thompson 

 8   and L. Krueger.  

 9                Ayes, 58.  Nays, 3.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1180, by Member of the Assembly Abbate, Assembly 

14   Print 7834, an act to amend the Retirement and 

15   Social Security Law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19   act shall take effect immediately.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

21   roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24   Calendar Number 1180:  Ayes, 61.  Nays, 1.  

25   Senator L. Krueger recorded in the negative.

                                                               4331

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                Senator Libous, that completes the 

 4   controversial reading of the calendar.

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

 6   we go to motions, please.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Motions 

 8   and resolutions.

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

10   behalf of Senator Young, I wish to call up Bill 

11   Number 863A, recalled from the Assembly, which is 

12   now at the desk.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

14   Secretary will read.

15                THE SECRETARY:  Calendar Number 77, 

16   by Senator Young, Senate Print 863A, an act to 

17   amend the Real Property Tax Law.

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

19   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

20   bill was passed.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

22   roll on reconsideration.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

                                                               4332

 1   now offer up the following amendments.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

 3   amendments are received.

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

 5   Senator LaValle, I wish to call up Senate Print 

 6   Number 2628, recalled from the Assembly, which is 

 7   now at the desk.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

 9   Secretary will read.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

11   you hear me read out these motions?  

12                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   I can 

13   barely hear you, Senator Libous.  

14                Can we please keep the conversations 

15   down.  

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

17   Mr. President.  

18                I move to reconsider the vote by 

19   which this bill was passed.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

21   Secretary will read first.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 73, 

23   by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 2628, an act to 

24   amend the Education Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Call the 

                                                               4333

 1   roll on reconsideration.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I now offer up the 

 5   following amendments.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

 7   amendments are received.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

 9   behalf of Senator Golden, on page 8 of 

10   Supplemental Calendar 52A, I offer up the 

11   following amendments on Calendar Number 1267, 

12   Senate Print 5675, and ask that said bill retain 

13   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

15   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

16   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   And on behalf of 

18   Senator Seward, on page 17, I offer the following 

19   amendments to Calendar Number 89, Senate Print 

20   2705, and I ask that said bill retain its place 

21   on the Third Reading Calendar.  

22                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

23   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

24   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On page 58, I 

                                                               4334

 1   offer the following amendments to Calendar Number 

 2   966, Senate Print 5411, and ask that said bill 

 3   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.  

 4   That's on behalf of Senator Fuschillo.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

 6   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

 7   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

 9   Senator Hannon, on page 39 I offer the following 

10   amendments to Calendar Number 629, Senate Print 

11   3503, and ask that said bill retain its place on 

12   the Third Reading Calendar.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

14   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

15   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   And, 

17   Mr. President, on behalf of Senator Jimmy Griffo, 

18   on page 66 I offer the following amendments to 

19   Calendar Number 1060, Senate Print 5215A, and ask 

20   that said bill retain its place on the Third 

21   Reading Calendar.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   The 

23   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

24   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

25                Senator Libous.  

                                                               4335

 1                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

 2   Mr. President.  At this time the Senate is going 

 3   to go into a recess until 6:00 o'clock sharp.  

 4                And at this time would you please 

 5   call on Senator Hassell-Thompson, please.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Senator 

 7   Hassell-Thompson.

 8                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

 9   you, Mr. President.

10                There will be an immediate meeting 

11   of the Democratic conference in the Democratic 

12   Conference Room.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

14   before we go into recess and before the Democrats 

15   go into conference, when we come back, just so 

16   that everybody knows what we're doing, we will be 

17   taking up Supplemental Calendar Number 52A.

18                I would ask that everybody be here 

19   at 6:00 o'clock sharp, please.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT O'MARA:   Thank 

21   you, Senator.

22                There will be an immediate 

23   conference of the Democratic conference, and we 

24   will stand at ease until 6:00 p.m.

25                (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

                                                               4336

 1   at 5:40 p.m.)

 2                (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

 3   6:20 p.m.)

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 6   Senate will come to order.

 7                Senator Libous.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

 9   this time could we have the noncontroversial 

10   reading of Supplemental Calendar 52A, please.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

12   Secretary will proceed with the noncontroversial 

13   reading of Senate Supplemental Calendar 52A.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   1199, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 511A, an 

16   act directing the New York State Energy Research 

17   and Development Authority.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

                                                               4337

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1200, by Senator Young, Senate Print 755, an act 

 5   to amend the Private Housing Finance Law. 

 6                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 8   is laid aside.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   1201, by Senator Young, Senate Print 854, an act 

11   to amend the Highway Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

15   act shall take effect immediately.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   1202, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print --

24                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

                                                               4338

 1   is laid aside.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1203, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1462A, an 

 4   act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1204, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 1966A, 

17   an act to amend the Executive Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately on the 60th 

22   day.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4339

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   1205, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 2409C, an 

 6   act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect July 1, 2013.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   1206, by Senator Libous, Senate Print --

19                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

21   is laid aside.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   1207, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 2544 --

24                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

                                                               4340

 1   is laid aside.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1208, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 2596A, an 

 4   act to amend the Penal Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8   act shall take effect on the first of November.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13   Calendar Number 1208:  Ayes, 61.  Nays, 1.  

14   Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   1209, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 2737, an 

19   act to amend the --

20                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

22   is laid aside.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   1210, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 2918, an 

25   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

                                                               4341

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 2   last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4   act shall take effect on the first of November.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 6   roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

10   is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1211, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 2936, an act 

13   to amend the Penal Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

17   act shall take effect on the first of November.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.  

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1212, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 2952B, an 

                                                               4342

 1   act to --

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

 3   the day.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 5   is laid aside for the day.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1213, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 3036, an 

 8   act to amend the Town Law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

12   act shall take effect immediately.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1214, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 3057 --

21                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

23   is laid aside.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1215, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 3101, an 

                                                               4343

 1   act to amend the Town Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5   act shall take effect on the first of January.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1216, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print --

14                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

16   is laid aside.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Lanza moves 

18   to discharge, from the Committee on Finance, 

19   Assembly Bill Number 3320 and substitute it for 

20   the identical Senate Bill Number 3335, Third 

21   Reading Calendar 1217.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   

23   Substitution ordered.

24                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

                                                               4344

 1   is laid aside.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1218, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print --

 4                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 6   is laid aside.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   1219, by Senator Martins, Senate Print 3778B, an 

 9   act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

11   last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13   act shall take effect on the 30th day.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

15   roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1220, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 3872B, an 

22   act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

                                                               4345

 1   act shall take effect immediately.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   1221, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 4036, an 

10   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

12   last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

14   act shall take effect on the first of November.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

16   roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

19   2.  Senators Duane and Montgomery recorded in the 

20   negative.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

22   is passed.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   1222, by Senator Zeldin, Senate Print 4073B, an 

25   act to amend the Election Law.

                                                               4346

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 2   last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4   act shall take effect on the 120th day.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 6   roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

10   is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1223, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 4123, 

13   an act to amend the Education Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1224, by Senator Young, Senate Print 4143A, an 

                                                               4347

 1   act --

 2                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 4   is laid aside.

 5                Senator Hassell-Thompson.

 6                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

 7   you, Mr. President.

 8                In relationship to Calendar Number 

 9   1221, Bill Number 4036, there should have been 

10   three no votes.  As opposed to Senator Zeldin's 

11   bill.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

13   Secretary will re-announce the results on 

14   Calendar Number 1221.

15                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16   Calendar 1221, those recorded in the negative are 

17   Senators Duane, Hassell-Thompson, Montgomery and 

18   Perkins.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

20   is passed.

21                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

22   you, Mr. President.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   1226, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 4240, an 

25   act to amend the General Municipal Law.

                                                               4348

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 2   Secretary will read Calendar 1225.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1225, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 4223, an 

 5   act to amend the General Municipal Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   There is 

 7   a home-rule message at the desk.

 8                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

10   is laid aside.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1226, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 4240, an 

13   act to amend the General Municipal Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

22   1.  Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4349

 1   1227, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 4270B, an 

 2   act to amend the Civil Service Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

11   1.  Senator L. Krueger recorded in the negative.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   1228, by Senator Carlucci, Senate Print 4333, an 

16   act to authorize.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20   act shall take effect immediately.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

25   2.  Senators Larkin and O'Mara recorded in the 

                                                               4350

 1   negative.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   1229, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 4392, an 

 6   act to authorize.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

15   2.  Senators Larkin and O'Mara recorded in the 

16   negative.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1230, by Senator Robach, Senate Print --

21                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

23   is laid aside.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Nozzolio 

25   moves to discharge, from the Committee on Local 

                                                               4351

 1   Government, Assembly Bill Number 3672, and 

 2   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 3   Number 4503, Third Reading Calendar 1231.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    

 5   Substitution ordered.

 6                The Secretary will read.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   1231, by Member of the Assembly Finch, Assembly 

 9   Print 3672, an act to amend the Village Law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

11   last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13   act shall take effect immediately.  

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

15   roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1232, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 4514, an 

22   act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

                                                               4352

 1   act shall take effect immediately.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   1233, by Senator Robach, Senate Print 4560 --

10                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

12   is laid aside.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1234, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 4637 --

15                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

17   is laid aside.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1235, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 4677, an 

20   act to amend the Executive Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.  

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

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 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1236, by Senator Johnson, Senate Print --

 8                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

10   is laid aside.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1237, by Senator McDonald, Senate Print 4762, an 

13   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1238, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 4844, an 

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 1   act to direct the New York State Office of Parks, 

 2   Recreation and Historic Preservation.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 7   is laid aside.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   1239, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 4851A --

10                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

12   is laid aside.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1240, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 4899, an 

15   act to amend the Local Finance Law.

16                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   There is 

18   a home-rule message at the desk.  

19                The bill is laid aside.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Senator LaValle 

21   moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

22   Assembly Bill Number 7303 and substitute it for 

23   the identical Senate Bill Number 4901, Third 

24   Reading Calendar 1241.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    

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 1   Substitution ordered.

 2                The Secretary will read.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1241, by Member of the Assembly Magee, Assembly 

 5   Print Number 7303, an act to amend the Village 

 6   Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   1242, by Senator Young, Senate Print 4943 --

19                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

21   is laid aside.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   1243, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 5092, an 

24   act to amend the Insurance Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

                                                               4356

 1   last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   1244, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 5161 --

12                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

14   is laid aside.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1245, by Senator Young, Senate Print 5184B --

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

18   the day.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

20   is laid aside for the day.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   1247, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 5260B, an 

23   act to amend the Penal Law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

25   last section.

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 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 10.  This 

 2   act shall take effect on the 90th day.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 8   is passed.  

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   1248, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 5288, an act 

11   to amend the Correction Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15   act shall take effect on the 90th day.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   1249, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 5309, an 

24   act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

                                                               4358

 1   last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   1250, by Senator Robach, Senate Print --

12                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

14   is laid aside.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Larkin 

16   moves to discharge, from the Committee on Codes, 

17   Assembly Bill Number 2877 and substitute it for 

18   the identical Senate Bill Number 5325, Third 

19   Reading Calendar 1251.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    

21   Substitution ordered.

22                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

24   is laid aside.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

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 1   1252, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 5459, an 

 2   act to authorize the Village of Herkimer.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   There is 

 4   a home-rule message at the desk.

 5                Read the last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

12   1.  Senator Ball recorded in the negative.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1253, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 5504A, an 

17   act to amend Chapter 672 of the Laws of 1993.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 10.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1254, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 5523, an 

 5   act to authorize Schenectady Hindu Temple.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9   act shall take effect immediately.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14   Calendar Number 1254, those recorded in the 

15   negative are Senators Bonacic, Larkin and 

16   O'Mara.  Ayes, 59.  Nays, 3.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1255, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 5524, an 

21   act to amend the Education Law.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

23   last section.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

25   act shall take effect immediately.

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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 2   roll.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   1256, by Senator Valesky, Senate Print 5529A, an 

 9   act to authorize.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

11   last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13   act shall take effect immediately.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

15   roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1257, by Senator Carlucci, Senate Print 5537, an 

22   act making an appropriation.  

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

                                                               4362

 1   act shall take effect immediately.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   1258, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 5573, an act 

10   to amend the Not-For-Profit Corporation Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

12   last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

14   act shall take effect immediately.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

16   roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

19   the day.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The roll 

21   call is withdrawn, and the bill is laid aside for 

22   the day.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   1259, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 5593, an 

25   act to amend Chapter 140 of the Laws of 1985.

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 1                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay this aside 

 2   temporarily and we'll come back to it.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 4   is laid aside temporarily.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   1260, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 5594, an 

 7   act to amend the New York State Urban Development 

 8   Corporation Act.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12   act shall take effect on the 120th day.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1261, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 5595, an 

21   act to amend the Village Law.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

23   last section.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25   act shall take effect immediately.

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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 2   roll.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5   Calendar Number 1261:  Ayes, 61.  Nays, 1.  

 6   Senator Martins recorded in the negative.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

10   we bring up Calendar 1259 again, please.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

12   Secretary will return to Calendar Number 1259.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1259, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 5593, an 

15   act to amend Chapter 140 of the Laws of 1985.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 9.  This 

19   act shall take effect on July 1, 2011.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

21   roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

24   Young to explain her vote.

25                SENATOR YOUNG:   Mr. President, I 

                                                               4365

 1   would like to abstain from this vote, please.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Without 

 3   objection, Senator Young will be recorded as 

 4   abstaining on Calendar 1259.

 5                Announce the results.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   1262, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 5601 --

11                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

13   is laid aside.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   1263, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 5608, 

16   an act to authorize the Town of Amherst.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   There is 

18   a home-rule message at the desk.

19                Read the last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1264, by Senator Young, Senate Print 5610, an act 

 5   to amend the Highway Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9   act shall take effect immediately.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   1265, by Senator Golden, Senate Print --

18                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

20   is laid aside.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   1266, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 5657, an 

23   act to authorize the Village of Ilion.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   There is 

25   a home-rule message at the desk.

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 1                Read the last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                Senator Libous, that completes the 

11   noncontroversial reading of Senate Supplemental 

12   Calendar 52A.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

14   we go back to motions and resolutions, please.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

16   Secretary will return to motions and resolutions.

17                Senator Libous.  

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

19   have a couple of motions here.  

20                On behalf of Senator Zeldin, on 

21   page 39, I offer the following amendments to 

22   Calendar Number 640, Senate Print 4601A, and ask 

23   that said bill retain its place on the Third 

24   Reading Calendar.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   So 

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 1   ordered.

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   And on behalf of 

 3   behalf of Senator Gallivan, on page 55 I offer 

 4   the following amendments to Calendar Number 925, 

 5   Senate Print 5494, and I ask that said bill 

 6   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   So 

 8   ordered.

 9                Senator Libous.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

11   this time all the bills that were laid aside will 

12   be laid aside for the day.  They will be taken up 

13   tomorrow morning on a controversial calendar.  

14                And at this point in time in the 

15   evening the Senate will adjourn until tomorrow, 

16   June 15th, at 11:00 a.m.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   There 

18   being no further business at the desk, on motion, 

19   the Senate stands adjourned until Wednesday, 

20   June 15th, at 11:00 a.m.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   And, 

22   Mr. President, there will be a 10:00 o'clock 

23   Republican conference tomorrow.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   There 

25   will be a 10:00 o'clock Republican conference 

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 1   tomorrow morning.

 2                The Senate stands adjourned until 

 3   Wednesday at 11:00 a.m.

 4                (Whereupon, at 6:42 p.m., the Senate 

 5   adjourned.)

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