Regular Session - June 15, 2011

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 1              NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4             THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                  June 15, 2011

11                    2:16 p.m.

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14                 REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JOSEPH A. GRIFFO, Acting President

19  FRANCIS W. PATIENCE, Secretary

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 1              P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 3   Senate will come to order.  

 4                I ask everyone present to please 

 5   rise and join with me as we recite the Pledge 

 6   of Allegiance to our Flag.

 7                (Whereupon, the assemblage 

 8   recited the Pledge of Allegiance to the 

 9   Flag.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

11   invocation will be given by Imam Daud Hanif, 

12   of the New York Metro Ahmadiyya Muslim 

13   Community.

14                IMAM HANIF:   Thank you.

15                Peace be upon you.  We pray in 

16   the name of Allah, the gracious, the 

17   merciful.  All praise belongs to Allah alone, 

18   Lord of all the worlds, the gracious, the 

19   merciful, master of the day of judgment.  

20   Thee alone do we worship, and Thee alone do 

21   we implore for help.  

22                Guide us in the straight path, 

23   the path of those on whom Thou hast bestowed 

24   Thy favors, those who have not incurred Thy 

25   displeasure and those who have not gone 

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 1   astray.  

 2                And of His signs is the creation 

 3   of the heavens and the earth and the 

 4   diversity of your tongues and colors.  In 

 5   that, surely, are signs for those who possess 

 6   knowledge. 

 7                Allah burdens not any soul 

 8   beyond its capacity.  It shall have the 

 9   reward it earns, and it shall get the 

10   punishment it incurs.  Our Lord, do not 

11   punish us if we forget or fall into error.  

12   And, our Lord, lay not on us a responsibility 

13   as Thou didst lay upon those before us.  Our 

14   Lord, burden us not with what we have not the 

15   strength to bear, and efface our sins and 

16   grant us forgiveness and have mercy on us.  

17                Our Lord, You have said 'It is 

18   decreed for thee that thou shalt not hunger 

19   therein, nor shalt thou be naked, and that 

20   thou shalt not be thirsty therein, nor shalt 

21   thou be exposed to the sun.  And who so acts 

22   righteously, whether male or female, and is a 

23   believer, We will surely grant him a pure 

24   life, and We will surely bestow on such their 

25   reward according to the best of their 

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 1   works.'  

 2                Our Lord, there is none who can bar 

 3   Your bounties, and nor there is anyone who can 

 4   grant that which You withhold.  Our Lord, grant 

 5   us good in this world as well as good in the 

 6   world to come, and save us from the torment of 

 7   the fire.  

 8                We beseech You, O our Lord, bestow 

 9   on our Senate leaders the best of the knowledge 

10   and wisdom and enable them to serve the people, 

11   the state, and this great country, homeland of us 

12   all.  And make this our state a most beautiful 

13   leading state, and grant all its residents 

14   aforementioned bounties and favors in abundance, 

15   and remain our protector and guide always.  

16                Amen.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

18   reading of the Journal.

19                THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Tuesday, 

20   June 14, the Senate met pursuant to adjournment.  

21   The Journal of Monday, June 13, was read and 

22   approved.  On motion, Senate adjourned.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Without 

24   objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

25                Presentation of petitions.

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 1                Messages from the Assembly.

 2                The Secretary will read.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   On page 17, Senator 

 4   Larkin moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 5   Commerce, Economic Development and Small 

 6   Business, Assembly Bill Number 160A and 

 7   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 8   Number 4242B, Third Reading Calendar 425.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

10   ordered.

11                THE SECRETARY:   On page 19, Senator 

12   Lanza moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

13   Transportation, Assembly Bill Number 6443 and 

14   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

15   Number 4657, Third Reading Calendar 516.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

17   ordered.

18                THE SECRETARY:   On page 21, Senator 

19   Ball moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

20   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 141B and substitute 

21   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 4582B, 

22   Third Reading Calendar 550.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

24   ordered.

25                THE SECRETARY:   On page 23, Senator 

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 1   Hannon moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 2   Higher Education, Assembly Bill Number 3334 and 

 3   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 4   Number 4245, Third Reading Calendar 594.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

 6   ordered.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   On page 34, Senator 

 8   DeFrancisco moves to discharge, from the 

 9   Committee on Finance, Assembly Bill Number 2565 

10   and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

11   Number 4146, Third Reading Calendar 858.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

13   ordered.

14                THE SECRETARY:   On page 39, Senator 

15   Skelos moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

16   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 5749 and substitute 

17   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 5331, 

18   Third Reading Calendar 942.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

20   ordered.

21                THE SECRETARY:   On page 40, Senator 

22   DeFrancisco moves to discharge, from the 

23   Committee on Finance, Assembly Bill Number 7239 

24   and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

25   Number 3944, Third Reading Calendar Number 961.

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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

 2   ordered.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   On page 40, Senator 

 4   Grisanti moves to discharge, from the Committee 

 5   on Environmental Conservation, Assembly Bill 

 6   Number 5663 and substitute it for the identical 

 7   Senate Bill Number 4056, Third Reading Calendar 

 8   964.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

10   ordered.

11                THE SECRETARY:   On page 44, Senator 

12   O'Mara moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

13   Elections, Assembly Bill Number 6767A and 

14   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

15   Number 5211, Third Reading Calendar 1030.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

17   ordered.

18                THE SECRETARY:   On page 45, Senator 

19   Grisanti moves to discharge, from the Committee 

20   on Environmental Conservation, Assembly Bill 

21   Number 7638A and substitute it for the identical 

22   Senate Bill Number 4363A, Third Reading Calendar 

23   1040.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

25   ordered.

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 1                THE SECRETARY:   On page 46, Senator 

 2   Valesky moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 3   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 7637 and substitute 

 4   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 5082A, 

 5   Third Reading Calendar 1044.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

 7   ordered.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   On page 46, Senator 

 9   Grisanti moves to discharge, from the Committee 

10   on Environmental Conservation, Assembly Bill 

11   Number 295A and substitute it for the identical 

12   Senate Bill Number 5352, Third Reading Calendar 

13   1045.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

15   ordered.

16                THE SECRETARY:   On page 46, Senator 

17   Maziarz moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

18   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 7943 and substitute 

19   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 5442, 

20   Third Reading Calendar 1047.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

22   ordered.

23                I'm going to ask that order be kept 

24   in the house, please.  If you have conversations, 

25   please take the conversations outside the 

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 1   chamber, staff and members, please.  Thank you.

 2                The Secretary will read.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   On page 47, Senator 

 4   Maziarz moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 5   Children and Families, Assembly Bill Number 7633 

 6   and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 7   Number 5470, Third Reading Calendar 1050.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

 9   ordered.

10                THE SECRETARY:   On page 47, Senator 

11   Maziarz moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

12   Aging, Assembly Bill Number 5458A and substitute 

13   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 5471, 

14   Third Reading Calendar 1051.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

16   ordered.

17                THE SECRETARY:   On page 47, Senator 

18   Martins moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

19   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 7919 and substitute 

20   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 5483, 

21   Third Reading Calendar 1056.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

23   ordered.

24                THE SECRETARY:   On page 48, Senator 

25   Griffo moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

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 1   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 8102 and substitute 

 2   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 5531, 

 3   Third Reading Calendar 1061.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

 5   ordered.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   On page 50, Senator 

 7   Klein moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 8   Codes, Assembly Bill Number 478A and substitute 

 9   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 541A, 

10   Third Reading Calendar 1089.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:  So 

12   ordered.

13                THE SECRETARY:   On page 51, Senator 

14   Flanagan moves to discharge, from the Committee 

15   on Finance, Assembly Bill Number 5600A and 

16   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

17   Number 3418A, Third Reading Calendar 1096.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

19   ordered.

20                THE SECRETARY:   On page 52, Senator 

21   Gallivan moves to discharge, from the Committee 

22   on Finance, Assembly Bill Number 6331 and 

23   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

24   Number 4498, Third Reading Calendar 1105.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

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 1   ordered.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   And on page 54, 

 3   Senator Nozzolio moves to discharge, from the 

 4   Committee on Crime Victims, Crime and Correction, 

 5   Assembly Bill Number 7237 and substitute it for 

 6   the identical Senate Bill Number 5368, Third 

 7   Reading Calendar 1125.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

 9   ordered.

10                Messages from the Governor.

11                Reports of standing committees.

12                Reports of select committees.  

13                Communications and reports from 

14   state officers.

15                Motions and resolutions.

16                Senator Libous.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I'm 

18   going to have you call on Senator Breslin and 

19   then Senator Klein.  

20                But before we do that, we're going 

21   to call the Finance Committee meeting from the 

22   floor, but we're going to continue in session 

23   with motions and resolutions so we can keep the 

24   process going.  I promise you no bills will come 

25   up until Finance.  But after Finance, there will 

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 1   be a Rules Committee meeting.  

 2                So in the sake of good order, 

 3   Mr. President, would you please call on Senator 

 4   Breslin and Senator Klein and come back to me so 

 5   I can call Finance.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 7   Breslin.

 8                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.  On behalf of Senator Gianaris, 

10   please place a sponsor star on Calendar Number 

11   612.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

13   ordered.

14                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Mr. President, I 

15   wish to call up Senate Print Number 2510A, 

16   recalled from the Assembly, which is now at the 

17   desk.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

19   Secretary will read.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   307, by Senator Gianaris, Senate Print 2510A, an 

22   act to amend the Penal Law.

23                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Mr. President, I 

24   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

25   bill was passed.

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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 2   roll on reconsideration.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 5                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Mr. President, I 

 6   now offer the following amendments.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 8   amendments are received.

 9                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.

11                On behalf of Senator Diaz, I wish to 

12   call up Senate Print Number 1313A, recalled from 

13   the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

15   Secretary will read.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   451, by Senator Diaz, Senate Print 1313A, an act 

18   to amend the Penal Law.

19                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Mr. President, I 

20   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

21   bill was passed.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

23   roll on reconsideration.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

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 1                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Mr. President, I 

 2   now offer the following amendments.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 4   amendments are accepted.

 5                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Thank you, 

 6   Mr. President.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 8   Klein.

 9                SENATOR KLEIN:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.  

11                On behalf of Senator Valesky, on 

12   page number 40 I offer the following amendments 

13   to Calendar Number 953, Senate Print Number 663, 

14   and ask that said bill retain its place on Third 

15   Reading Calendar.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

17   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

18   retain its place on third reading.

19                SENATOR KLEIN:   Mr. President, I 

20   have a motion to amend a bill recalled from the 

21   Assembly.  I wish to call up Print Number 4333, 

22   recalled from the Assembly, which is now at the 

23   desk.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

25   Secretary will read.

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 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1228, by Senator Carlucci, Senate Print 4333, an 

 3   act to authorize.

 4                SENATOR KLEIN:   Mr. President, I 

 5   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

 6   bill was passed.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 8   roll on reconsideration.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

12   is passed.

13                SENATOR KLEIN:   Mr. President, I 

14   now offer the following amendments.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

16   amendments are received.  Thank you, Senator 

17   Klein.

18                Senator Libous.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, as 

20   I said before, there will be an immediate meeting 

21   of the Finance Committee in Room 332, immediate 

22   meeting of the Finance Committee in Room 332.  

23                But we will continue to do motions 

24   and resolutions and whatever announcements and 

25   presentations that need to take place.

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 1                Mr. President, on behalf of Senator 

 2   Ranzenhofer, on page 36 I offer the following 

 3   amendments to Calendar Number 890, Senate Print 

 4   4753, and ask that said bill retain its place on 

 5   the Third Reading Calendar.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 7   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

 8   retain its place on third reading.

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

10   behalf of Senator Ball, on page 52 I offer the 

11   following amendments to Calendar Number 1109, 

12   Senate Print 5381, and ask that said bill retain 

13   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

15   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

16   retain its place on third reading.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

18   behalf of Senator Libous, on page 49 I offer the 

19   following amendments to Calendar Number 1079, 

20   Senate Print 5203, and ask that said bill retain 

21   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

23   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

24   retain its place on third reading.

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

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 1   Senator Martins, Mr. President, on page 42 I 

 2   offer the following amendments to Calendar Number 

 3   1000, Senate Print 5546, and ask that said bill 

 4   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 6   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

 7   retain its place on third reading.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

 9   behalf of Senator Golden, I move that the 

10   following bill be discharged from its respective 

11   committee and be recommitted with instructions to 

12   strike the enacting clause.  That would be Senate 

13   Print 5616.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

15   ordered.

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

17   Senator Hannon, please place a sponsor star on 

18   Calendar Number 969.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So 

20   ordered.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.

23                On behalf of Senator Flanagan, I 

24   wish to call up his bill, Senate Print 5315, 

25   recalled from the Assembly, which is now at the 

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 1   desk.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 3   Secretary will read.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   734, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 5315, an 

 6   act relating to validating actions taken by 

 7   Smithtown Central School District.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 9   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

10   bill was passed.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

12   roll on reconsideration.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

15                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

16   now offer up the following amendments.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

18   amendments are received.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

20   believe at this time we have a resolution at the 

21   desk by Senator Larkin.  Could we please have its 

22   title read and call on Senator Larkin.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

24   Secretary will read.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

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 1   resolution by Senator Larkin, commemorating the 

 2   236th Birthday of the United States Army on 

 3   June 14, 2011.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 5   Larkin.

 6                SENATOR LARKIN:   Thank you, 

 7   Mr. President.

 8                Two hundred thirty-six years ago 

 9   that Army flag was risen.  We're talking the year 

10   1775.  Since that time, the Army flag has been 

11   adorned with streamers for 181 battles.  

12                Today, Army elements are in 21 

13   countries throughout the world, preserving peace 

14   at the expense of America.  That was a shot?  I 

15   hope not.  

16                But you know, this Army is something 

17   special.  We have seen people coming in off the 

18   farms to do it.  We've seen drafts in World War 

19   I, we've seen drafts in World War II, Korea, 

20   Vietnam.  Today the Army force, whether it's 

21   active, reserve, or guard, is strictly 

22   volunteers.  We're very proud of them.  The 

23   records that they have made and what they have 

24   said speaks volumes and volumes of words because 

25   of the military's commitment to our communities.

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 1                I'm very proud to say I served 

 2   23 years of my life, which matured me a lot.  And 

 3   the Army has done a lot for a lot of our young 

 4   people.  It's taught them a trade, given them an 

 5   education -- and, yes, sent them into harm's way 

 6   where many didn't come back.  Some come back 

 7   dismantled, some come back with arms, legs off.  

 8   But they were all part of a great Army.  

 9                We in the State of New York should 

10   be extra-special proud when we talk about the 

11   Army.  The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 

12   is a graduate of the Academy, Class of '75, from 

13   Goshen, New York.  The commander in Afghanistan 

14   in the multinational forces is a graduate of the 

15   West Point Academy class of '74, and he is soon 

16   to be named the CIA director, and he's from 

17   Cornwall, New York.  So two of out of those great 

18   spots, part of the Army, part of a great team.  I 

19   say "Go Army."  

20                Thank you, Mr. President.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

22   you, Senator Larkin, for your service.  And thank 

23   you for the resolution.

24                The question is on the resolution. 

25   All in favor signify by saying aye.

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 1                (Response of "Aye.")

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?

 3                (No response.)

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 5   resolution is adopted.

 6                Senator Libous.

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.  

 9                Mr. President, at this time I 

10   believe Senator Perkins -- if I could have 

11   unanimous consent to call on Senator Perkins for 

12   the purposes of an introduction.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Without 

14   objection, the chair recognizes Senator Perkins.

15                SENATOR PERKINS:   Thank you very 

16   much.

17                I wanted to just take a brief moment 

18   to introduce a guest, a very distinguished 

19   guest.  I have the privilege, as you know, of 

20   representing a district that is a historic 

21   district in terms of Harlem as a place where many 

22   folks, not just from the African-American 

23   experience live, but also from the African 

24   Diaspora, particularly from West Africa.  

25                And today I have the privilege of 

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 1   introducing Mr. Cellou Dalein Diallo.  He was 

 2   born in the Republic of Guinea, and Mr. Diallo 

 3   has served over 30 years the Republic of Guinea 

 4   and his people throughout the world, as prime 

 5   minister and as minister of equipment, minister 

 6   of public transportation, telecommunications, and 

 7   environment.  He was the general director of 

 8   monetary and economic affairs for the Central 

 9   Bank of Guinea and the Guinea Republic Governor 

10   at the World Bank.  

11                Mr. Diallo has been working 

12   diligently for a stable and eternal democratic 

13   system in Guinea.  And since 2007, Mr. Diallo 

14   became the president of the Democratic Union 

15   Forces of Guinea, which is a principal party in 

16   Guinea.  

17                He joins us today with 

18   Assemblymember Stevenson, who, as a 

19   representative of the Bronx, also shares a large 

20   Guinean community as well.  And he introduced our 

21   guest in the Assembly, and today it is my honor 

22   to introduce him to our colleagues in the Senate.

23                Mr. Diallo, welcome.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   We 

25   welcome you to the chamber and extend the 

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 1   privileges and the courtesies of the house.

 2                (Applause.)

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 4   Libous.

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

 6   Mr. President.  

 7                Thank you, Senator Perkins, and 

 8   welcome to our guest today.

 9                Mr. President, I believe Senator 

10   Golden has a resolution at the desk that was 

11   previously adopted.  He would like the title read 

12   and then he would like to speak on it, please.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

14   Secretary will read.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

16   Resolution Number 2326, by Senator Golden, 

17   honoring Dr. Daniel Igor Branovan upon the 

18   occasion of his designation for special 

19   recognition for his work on Project Chernobyl.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

21   Golden.

22                SENATOR GOLDEN:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.  

24                I have a resolution today from the 

25   State Senate in honor of Daniel Igor Branovan, a 

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 1   doctor who emigrated to the United States of 

 2   America from the Soviet Union.  He is a graduate 

 3   of Haverford College and the Stanford University 

 4   School of Medicine and the Harvard School of 

 5   Public Health.  

 6                Currently Dr. Branovan serves as the 

 7   director of the Thyroid Center and the director 

 8   of the Rhinology Division at the New York Eye and 

 9   Ear Infirmary and has practiced there since 

10   1998.  Dr. Branovan is recognized as one of the 

11   most outstanding physicians and surgeons in his 

12   specialty by numerous publications and is the 

13   only Russian-speaking specialist in New York to 

14   be repeatedly named to the prestigious list of 

15   "Best Doctors in America" by New York Magazine.  

16                Dr. Daniel Igor Branovan is also 

17   founder and president of Project Chernobyl, a 

18   project which this Legislature put money into to 

19   establish a fund to help the organization, which 

20   was established in 2007 to address the growing 

21   frequency of thyroid cancer among hundreds of 

22   thousands of immigrants to New York City from the 

23   affected regions of the Ukraine, Belarus, and 

24   Russia after being exposed during the Chernobyl 

25   nuclear accident.  

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 1                Project Chernobyl has expanded its 

 2   scope to regions in New York State with markedly 

 3   increased thyroid cancer rates among the general 

 4   population.  It offers a cost-effective method of 

 5   screening the 9/11 responders for thyroid cancer 

 6   through a new project, "Project 9/11 -- Chernobyl 

 7   in Your Backyard."  And it is saving tremendous 

 8   amounts of money and lives here in the State of 

 9   New York.  

10                Dr. Branovan has also organized and 

11   co-chaired a series of international symposiums 

12   at the United Nations on the medical consequences 

13   of both the Chernobyl nuclear accident and the 

14   recent Fukushima nuclear accident in Japan.  

15                Dr. Daniel Branovan is currently 

16   serving as president of the American Forum of 

17   Russian-Speaking Jewry, RAJI, and also 

18   co-president of the United Russian-American 

19   Political Action Committee for New York State.  

20   He also serves as a board member and chair of the 

21   Russian Division of the American Jewish Committee 

22   and is a founding member of Doctors against 

23   Terrorism.  

24                Dr. Daniel Igor Branovan has earned 

25   the respect and the admiration of his colleagues, 

                                                               4395

 1   family and friends.  And on behalf of the 

 2   New York State Senate, I thank him for what he is 

 3   able to do not only for those that emigrated to 

 4   this great nation but to the people that live 

 5   here and reside here from our own incident here 

 6   on 9/11.  

 7                The good doctor is joined by many of 

 8   his good friends and colleagues.  And I see my 

 9   colleague up there, Assemblyman Brook-Krasny, 

10   joined by Gene Borsh, also joined by Iasenik 

11   Anatoly, also joined by Vijay Dandapani, and 

12   also, from Davidzon Radio, Gregory Davidzon, and 

13   of course Leonid Bard and many other of his 

14   friends and guests.  

15                We commend you, sir, for your 

16   service to our nation and for the great work that 

17   you've done and that you continue to do and the 

18   lives that you save.  Thank you, and God bless 

19   you.

20                (Applause.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

22   you, Senator Golden.  

23                And we want to welcome Dr. Branovan 

24   and the guests here to the chamber, and we extend 

25   the courtesies of the chamber to you today.  

                                                               4396

 1   Welcome, Dr. Branovan.

 2                This resolution was previously 

 3   adopted on June 14th.

 4                Senator Libous.

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, did 

 6   you call on me, sir?

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Yes, 

 8   Senator Libous, I did.

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   It's greatly 

10   appreciated.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   You're 

12   one of the only guys in the chamber.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  

15                I believe there's a privileged 

16   resolution at the desk by Senator Ranzenhofer.  

17   At this time could we have the resolution read in 

18   its entirety, and then I believe Senator 

19   Ranzenhofer would like to speak on it.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   We will 

21   note that the Finance Committee is meeting and 

22   then you will call Rules, or Rules will 

23   immediately follow?  How was that, you will call 

24   Rules again after Finance?

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   We will call Rules 

                                                               4397

 1   from the floor.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Okay.  

 3   The Secretary will read the resolution.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

 5   resolution by Senator Ranzenhofer, commending 

 6   Williamsville East High School upon the occasion 

 7   of its designation as recipient of the College 

 8   Board Middle States Regional Award for Excellence 

 9   and Innovation in the Arts.  

10                "WHEREAS, It is the sense of this 

11   Legislative Body to recognize and commend those 

12   institutions of commitment and high achievement 

13   whose purpose and endeavors prove a dedication to 

14   the pursuit of excellence in the education of the 

15   youth of this noble Empire State; and 

16                "WHEREAS, Attendant to such concern, 

17   and in full accord with its long-standing 

18   traditions, this Legislative Body is justly proud 

19   to commend Williamsville East High School upon 

20   the occasion of its designation as recipient of 

21   the College Board Middle States Regional Award 

22   for Excellence and Innovation in the Arts.  The 

23   school will be recognized for its long-standing 

24   commitment to arts education at the College 

25   Board's National Forum in October of 2011; and 

                                                               4398

 1                "WHEREAS, Dedicated to promoting 

 2   excellence and equity in education, the College 

 3   Board is a mission-driven not-for-profit 

 4   organization which connects students to college 

 5   success and opportunity.  Founded in 1900, the 

 6   College Board was created to expand access to 

 7   higher education; and 

 8                "WHEREAS, The College Board has 

 9   named one outstanding school in each of its six 

10   regions as the winner of its first annual Award 

11   for Excellence and Innovation in the Arts.  The 

12   College Board established the award program to 

13   recognize and celebrate the achievements of six 

14   K-12 schools which have expanded student 

15   potential by promoting creativity, innovation, 

16   and critical-thinking skills through arts-related 

17   programs; and 

18                "WHEREAS, Williamsville East High 

19   School in East Amherst, New York, was selected as 

20   both the Middle States Regional Winner and this 

21   year's National Winner; and 

22                "WHEREAS, Williamsville East High 

23   School's Connections and Collaborations program, 

24   founded in 2000, extends beyond Williamsville 

25   High.  The year-long program brings together 

                                                               4399

 1   students from Buffalo and its surrounding suburbs 

 2   to create a truly community-oriented experience.  

 3   The program is built around the work of a guest 

 4   poet whose own work inspires students to 

 5   collaborate on poetry, music, dance and the 

 6   visual arts; and 

 7                "WHEREAS, The yearly program 

 8   culminates in a celebration of poetry, music, 

 9   dance and the visual arts, where students have 

10   the opportunity to share their work with the 

11   Buffalo community; and 

12                "WHEREAS, The College Board Middle 

13   States Regional Award for Excellence and 

14   Innovation in the Arts stands as a resolute 

15   testimony to Williamsville East High School's 

16   standards of excellence, its uncompromising 

17   values, unparalleled dedication, and the special 

18   teamwork of its family of students, parents, 

19   teachers and administrators, who share common 

20   goals and uncommon expectations; now, therefore, 

21   be it 

22                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

23   Body pause in its deliberations to commend 

24   Williamsville East High School upon the occasion 

25   of its designation as recipient of the College 

                                                               4400

 1   Board Middle States Regional Award for Excellence 

 2   and Innovation in the Arts; and be it further 

 3                "RESOLVED, That a copy of this 

 4   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 

 5   Williamsville East High School."

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

 7   Ranzenhofer.

 8                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.  You look very good up there.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

11   you.  

12                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   First of all, 

13   I'd like to thank you for recognizing me.  

14                And very often in this chamber we 

15   have the opportunity to recognize sports teams, 

16   organizations, institutions and individuals.  And 

17   when we recognize organizations and institutions, 

18   those are compromised of individuals.  And we 

19   have two of them with us here today.  We have 

20   Steve Shewan, who is up in the balcony, and we 

21   also have John Kryder.  

22                We are recognizing one of the 

23   schools in my district, actually the rival of the 

24   high school that my own children went to, but a 

25   very, very good high school not far from where I 

                                                               4401

 1   live.  And they are being recognized for a 

 2   program that was developed about 11 years ago, I 

 3   believe, which really collaborates with poetry 

 4   and music and the arts, bringing people from the 

 5   entire Western New York area together.  

 6                And they are being recognized not 

 7   only as a regional winner but the national winner 

 8   for their program.  That school, I know on a 

 9   firsthand basis, has produced great students, 

10   great musicians, great athletes.  And it really 

11   is, and needs to be repeated here today, that 

12   success through education is really based on the 

13   arts.  Because those who -- when you have arts 

14   programs and music programs, it really enables 

15   the students to excel in their core subjects.

16                So again, I want to thank Steve and 

17   John for joining us today and representing the 

18   Williamsville East High School community.  

19   Congratulations on your recognition and honors 

20   and for the recognitions and honors that you'll 

21   be receiving this October.  So again, thank you 

22   for being here and congratulations on your 

23   achievements.

24                (Applause.)

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

                                                               4402

 1   Gentlemen, congratulations and welcome.

 2                The question is on the resolution. 

 3   All in favor signify by saying aye.

 4                (Response of "Aye.")

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

 6   nay.  

 7                (No response.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

 9   resolution is adopted.

10                Senator Libous.

11                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.

13                I believe there's another privileged 

14   resolution at the desk by Senator Kennedy.  Could 

15   we please have it read in its entirety and then 

16   please call on Senator Kennedy.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

18   Secretary will read.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

20   resolution by Senator Kennedy, commending 

21   Bornhava Preschool upon the occasion of its 

22   recognition for special recognition, and to pay 

23   just tribute to its Director Barbara Jo Hard.  

24                "WHEREAS, Organizations which seek 

25   to enhance the education of our youngest students 

                                                               4403

 1   help to provide children a solid knowledge base 

 2   upon which to build their future studies; and 

 3                "WHEREAS, It is the custom of this 

 4   Legislative Body to recognize and honor those 

 5   organizations and individuals of commitment and 

 6   high achievements whose purpose and endeavors 

 7   have been dedicated to the pursuit of excellence 

 8   in the education of the youth of this noble 

 9   Empire State; and 

10                "WHEREAS, Attendant to such concern, 

11   and in full accord with its long-standing 

12   tradition, this Legislative Body is justly proud 

13   to commend Bornhava Preschool of Amherst, 

14   New York, upon the occasion of its designation 

15   for special recognition and to honor its 

16   Director, Barbara Jo Hard; and

17                "WHEREAS, Bornhava Preschool was 

18   founded by Barbara Jo Hard in 1983, with the 

19   intent of offering a home-like atmosphere where 

20   high-quality therapeutic and educational 

21   interventions are provided for children with 

22   special needs from birth to five years of age; 

23   and 

24                "WHEREAS, Since founding it almost 

25   30 years ago, Founder Barbara Jo Hard has 

                                                               4404

 1   remained the executive director of Bornhava 

 2   Preschool; and 

 3                "WHEREAS, At its inception, Bornhava 

 4   Preschool served nine students.  Today it serves 

 5   approximately 198 children, with a commitment for 

 6   personalized attention to address each of their 

 7   unique strengths and needs; and 

 8                "WHEREAS, Bornhava Preschool's focus 

 9   is not only on the specific needs of these 

10   children but also on family involvement and 

11   interaction with typical children.  Intervention 

12   plans are developed for children with mental and 

13   physical challenges, sensory deficits, 

14   communication delays, and various developmental 

15   disabilities; and 

16                "WHEREAS, This remarkable school 

17   developed a Sensory, Motor, Interactive, 

18   Learning, Environment (SMILE) philosophy in 

19   response to the documented need to serve the 

20   children whose sensory dysfunction, 

21   social/emotional delays and communication 

22   disorders interfere with the learning process; 

23   and 

24                "WHEREAS, Bornhava Preschool's SMILE 

25   philosophy utilizes an eclectic approach 

                                                               4405

 1   representing a variety of documented educational 

 2   methods such as 'More Than Words,' 'DIR- 

 3   Floortime,' 'Total Language,' 'PECS (Picture 

 4   Exchange Communication System),' and various 

 5   sensory integration techniques; and 

 6                "WHEREAS, In so effectively carrying 

 7   out its mission, the Bornhava Preschool has 

 8   offered children the opportunity to enhance their 

 9   quality of life by providing them with a safe, 

10   supportive atmosphere while participating in 

11   recreational and educational activities; and 

12                "WHEREAS, The children of today are 

13   the citizens and leaders of tomorrow.  Their 

14   health, well-being and development are of 

15   paramount importance to the people of the State 

16   of New York; and 

17                "WHEREAS, It is the sense of this 

18   Legislative Body to extend its highest 

19   commendation to all of the individuals who have 

20   been involved with the Bornhava Preschool, past 

21   and present, noting the importance of their work 

22   and their enduring commitment to young children; 

23   now, therefore, be it 

24                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

25   Body pause in its deliberations to commend the 

                                                               4406

 1   Bornhava Preschool upon the occasion of its 

 2   designation for special recognition, and to pay 

 3   just tribute to its Director Barbara Jo Hard; and 

 4   be it further 

 5                "RESOLVED, That a copy of this 

 6   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 

 7   Barbara Jo Hard, Director, Bornhava Preschool."

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

 9   you.

10                Senator Kennedy.

11                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, thank you 

12   very much, Mr. President.  

13                I just want to recognize Barbara Jo 

14   Hard, and her daughter Maggie, who made the long 

15   trip up from Buffalo to be here with us today.  

16                These are certainly fascinating 

17   times to be in the State Capitol.  And I'm very 

18   happy that you got to get a good flavor of what 

19   happens down here.

20                What happens in Amherst, New York -- 

21   actually in Senator Ranzenhofer's district -- at 

22   Bornhava Preschool is fascinating in and of 

23   itself every single day.  There are miracles that 

24   happen at Bornhava Preschool.  There are children 

25   with disabilities, both physical and emotional 

                                                               4407

 1   and psychological, that come to Bornhava and are 

 2   treated and are worked into a system that 

 3   translates into an increase in their level of 

 4   functioning, to the point that when they turn 

 5   five years old, they're able to go to school with 

 6   their peers.  

 7                This is a system that is funded 

 8   through the education funding that this honorable 

 9   body puts through its budget every single year.  

10   Bornhava, the small institution that treats 

11   hundreds of kids on a daily basis, but also, over 

12   the course of the last nearly 30 years since its 

13   inception in 1983, has had a positive impact on 

14   thousands of children and thousands of families 

15   throughout Western New York, is an example of the 

16   system working and working well and working, 

17   quite frankly, magnificently.  

18                And it's due in large part to the 

19   efforts of Barbara Jo Hard, who in 1983 founded 

20   Bornhava Preschool and has turned it into one of 

21   the most incredible educational institutions 

22   that's expanding every single year, not with 

23   public funds but with private funds, and 

24   expanding every year through a foundation that's 

25   been established through local private sources 

                                                               4408

 1   that help to make it into the institution that it 

 2   is today.

 3                So thank you, Barbara Jo Hard, for 

 4   being here today.  Thank you, Barbara Jo Hard, 

 5   for everything that you do at Bornhava and 

 6   throughout all of Western New York for all of the 

 7   people and the families that are impacted by 

 8   everything that and the wonderful staff and 

 9   extended family at Bornhava do on a daily basis.

10                Congratulations.

11                (Applause.)

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

13   you, Senator Kennedy.

14                The question is on the resolution. 

15   All in favor signify by saying aye.

16                (Response of "Aye.")

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

18   nay.

19                (No response.)

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

21   resolution is adopted.

22                Ladies, welcome.  Thank you for 

23   being here.  We extend to you the courtesies and 

24   the privileges of the house.  Thank you for being 

25   here.

                                                               4409

 1                Senator Libous.

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.

 4                Mr. President, there's a privileged 

 5   resolution at the desk by Senator Ritchie.  If 

 6   you could read the title and then call on Senator 

 7   Ritchie, please.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

 9   Secretary will read.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

11   resolution by Senator Ritchie, honoring Dallas 

12   Mavericks Head Coach and St. Lawrence County 

13   native Rick Carlisle upon the occasion of 

14   capturing the NBA Championship on June 12, 2011.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

16   Ritchie.

17                SENATOR RITCHIE:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.

19                I rise to pay tribute to Head Coach 

20   Rick Carlisle of the 2011 NBA Champion Dallas 

21   Mavericks.  

22                Rick is a native of Lisbon in 

23   St. Lawrence County.  His parents are Preston and 

24   Joan Carlisle.  Growing up, I had many 

25   opportunities to watch Rick play, and I know his 

                                                               4410

 1   family to be very involved still in our 

 2   community.  

 3                Sports fans in New York, especially 

 4   in northern New York, have watched Rick's career 

 5   and felt a great deal of pride in his 

 6   accomplishments.  He is one of only 11 to have 

 7   won the NBA championships as both a coach and as 

 8   a player, with the Boston Celtics.  Rick began 

 9   his NBA career in Boston but also played briefly 

10   here as a New York Knick.  He also played just 

11   down the street with the Albany Patroons.  

12                We are in St. Lawrence County are 

13   very proud of Rick Carlisle and his family.  He 

14   brings honor to our community and honor to the 

15   State of New York.  So thank you, Mr. President.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

17   you, Senator Ritchie.

18                The question is on the resolution. 

19   All in favor signify by saying aye.

20                (Response of "Aye.")

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

22   nay.

23                (No response.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

25   resolution is adopted.

                                                               4411

 1                Senator Libous.

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   You would think, 

 3   Mr. President, that Senator Ritchie could have 

 4   gotten tickets for all of us for the championship 

 5   games.

 6                (Laughter.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   We had 

 8   hoped.

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   And we would have 

10   paid for them, of course.

11                (Laughter.)

12                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

13   believe Senator Sampson has a privileged 

14   resolution at the desk.  Could we have the title 

15   read and move for its adoption.  

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

17   Secretary will read.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

19   resolution by Senator Sampson, commending 

20   Reverend Dr. Randolph Nugent upon the occasion of 

21   his retirement from Vanderveer Park United 

22   Methodist Church, Brooklyn, New York.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

24   question is on the resolution.  All in favor 

25   signify by saying aye.

                                                               4412

 1                (Response of "Aye.")

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

 3   nay.  

 4                (No response.) 

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

 6   resolution is adopted.

 7                Senator Libous.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.  

10                Mr. President, at this time the 

11   Finance Committee is meeting.  When the Finance 

12   Committee finishes its meeting, there will be a 

13   meeting of the Rules Committee in Room 332.  

14                And for the time being, the Senate 

15   will stand at ease.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

17   Senate will stand at ease.

18                (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

19   at 2:56 p.m.)

20                (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

21   3:33 p.m.)

22                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

23   there will be an immediate meeting of the Rules 

24   Committee in Room 332, immediate meeting of the 

25   Rules Committee in Room 332.  As quick as the 

                                                               4413

 1   members can get there, we will do the meeting and 

 2   get back on the floor and begin the calendar. 

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    There 

 4   will be an immediate meeting of the Rules 

 5   Committee in Room 332, as quickly as the members 

 6   can get there.  

 7                Thank you, Senator Libous.

 8                The Senate continues to stand at 

 9   ease.

10                (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

11   at 3:34 p.m.)

12                (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

13   4:06 p.m.)

14                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

16   Libous.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I would like to go 

18   back to reports of standing committees.  And when 

19   Senator DeFrancisco is ready, we will have a 

20   report of the Finance Committee, if we could just 

21   hold a second.

22                (Pause.)

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   If we could read 

24   the report of the Finance Committee at this time.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Reports 

                                                               4414

 1   of standing committees.

 2                The Secretary will read.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Senator 

 4   DeFrancisco, from the Committee on Finance, 

 5   offers the following nominations.

 6                As a commissioner of the Port 

 7   Authority of New York and New Jersey, Jeffrey 

 8   Hayden Lynford, of Katonah.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

10   DeFrancisco.

11                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, I rise 

12   to move the nomination of Jeffrey Hayden Lynford, 

13   of Katonah, for a commissioner's position on the 

14   board of the Port Authority of New York and 

15   New Jersey.  

16                Mr. Lynford appeared before the 

17   Finance Committee, was unanimously approved in 

18   order to have his nomination sent to the floor, 

19   and we would recommend that nomination.  

20                And I would request that you 

21   recognize the chairman of Transportation, Senator 

22   Fuschillo, to second the nomination.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

24   you, Senator DeFrancisco.

25                Senator Fuschillo.

                                                               4415

 1                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:   Thank you very 

 2   much, Mr. President.  

 3                I want to thank Mr. Lynford for his 

 4   willingness to serve the people of the State of 

 5   New York.  

 6                Mr. Lynford came before the 

 7   Transportation Committee and we were extremely 

 8   satisfied with his experience, and we want to 

 9   thank Governor Cuomo for his nomination.  I 

10   proudly second the nomination.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

12   you, Senator.

13                Senator Oppenheimer.

14                SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.  

16                Jeff is not a constituent of mine; 

17   he's a little north of my district.  But he's a 

18   friend and a man that I think we're very 

19   fortunate to have willing to serve in state 

20   government.  His background in finance, in public 

21   debt, in development, in rehabilitation, in all 

22   the things that are so important for our 

23   Port Authority.  And looking ahead, we'll need 

24   all these skills to get through the coming years.

25                On a more personal note, I would say 

                                                               4416

 1   that his role in Westchester as a member of the 

 2   Council of the Arts and as someone who is 

 3   committed to Caramoor, which is a beautiful 

 4   musical festival that we have in Westchester 

 5   County --

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Excuse 

 7   me, Senator Oppenheimer.

 8                {Gaveling.}  Can we have order in 

 9   the house?  Thank you.

10                SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:   His 

11   commitment to the arts has advanced the arts and 

12   helped them to stay healthy in Westchester 

13   County.  

14                And on an aside, I would say that 

15   his wife, Tondra, has been a blessing as a 

16   psychotherapist who takes into her heart the 

17   needs of children with special needs and has 

18   worked tirelessly in this field.  And both he and 

19   his wife are people to be admired.  

20                And I am happy to be able to talk on 

21   his behalf.  Thank you.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

23   you, Senator.

24                Any other Senators wishing to be 

25   heard?

                                                               4417

 1                The question is on the nomination of 

 2   Jeffrey Hayden Lynford, of Katonah, as a 

 3   commissioner of the Port Authority of New York 

 4   and New Jersey.  All in favor signify by saying 

 5   aye.

 6                (Response of "Aye.")

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

 8   nay.

 9                (No response.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Jeffrey 

11   Hayden Lynford hereby is confirmed as a 

12   commissioner of the Port Authority of New York 

13   and New Jersey.

14                Congratulations.

15                (Applause.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

17   Secretary will read.

18                THE SECRETARY:   As member and chair 

19   of the New York State Thruway Authority, Howard 

20   Milstein, of New York City.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

22   DeFrancisco.

23                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, I am 

24   proud to move the nomination of Howard Milstein 

25   as a member and chair of the New York State 

                                                               4418

 1   Thruway Authority.  

 2                And I just wanted to comment on just 

 3   a couple of things.  First of all, I've mentioned 

 4   this before on other nominees, but the four 

 5   nominees that appeared before the committee today 

 6   are extremely well qualified for the positions to 

 7   which they were appointed.  

 8                And it's really a credit to the 

 9   Governor that he would be able to get people that 

10   were this successful in their private lives and 

11   in their public service to serve in these 

12   positions.  Nowadays, it seems to me that a lot 

13   of people shy away from public service, 

14   especially if they're successful in their private 

15   ventures because of the glass house that they 

16   have to live in or the microscope that they're 

17   always viewed under.  

18                And somehow it seems to me that 

19   people seem to believe or some seem to believe 

20   that if you're successful in private life and 

21   you've done well financially, that there's 

22   something wrong with that.  Well, the people that 

23   have been nominated today show that there's 

24   nothing wrong with that.  And they -- at least as 

25   to Mr. Milstein, shots have been taken already, 

                                                               4419

 1   and he hasn't been confirmed yet.  

 2                And it was clear from the reaction 

 3   of the committee that he's not only 

 4   well-qualified, but we're all very pleased that 

 5   he's willing to serve in this position, bringing 

 6   his expertise from the private sector to make the 

 7   Thruway Authority better.  And that holds true 

 8   for each of the other nominees.  

 9                And I'm proud to move his 

10   nomination.  I'd request that you recognize, 

11   again, the chairman of the Transportation 

12   Committee, Senator Fuschillo, to second the 

13   nomination.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

15   you, Senator.  

16                Senator Fuschillo.

17                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:   Mr. President, 

18   thank you very much.  

19                I've had the pleasure and the 

20   opportunity of meeting Mr. Milstein on a few 

21   occasions in the last week, and I concur and say 

22   ditto to all of the comments by the chairman of 

23   the Finance Committee, Senator DeFrancisco.

24                You know, it is a rare opportunity 

25   where we have the pleasure of meeting such 

                                                               4420

 1   qualified individuals that do possess a 

 2   willingness to people of the New York State.  

 3   Mr. Milstein certainly doesn't need any more jobs 

 4   in his life.  He is an enormously successful 

 5   businessman, enormous successful in his personal 

 6   life as well.

 7                We raised some issues of serious 

 8   concern and interest during the Transportation 

 9   Committee, and we're extremely satisfied with his 

10   knowledge of the Thruway Authority and his 

11   concern for the future of the Thruway Authority 

12   as well.  So I proudly second the nomination.  I 

13   applaud Governor Cuomo.  

14                Mr. Milstein, I wish you tremendous 

15   success.  You formed a partnership with members 

16   of the Transportation Committee and certainly 

17   myself.  Congratulations, and the best of luck.  

18                And now I'd appreciate it if you'd 

19   recognize Senator Maziarz and Senator Nozzolio 

20   for purposes of a second.  Thank you very much.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

22   you, Senator Fuschillo.

23                Senator Nozzolio.

24                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.  

                                                               4421

 1                Mr. President, on the nomination, I 

 2   rise to echo the comments and sentiments 

 3   expressed by Senator DeFrancisco and especially 

 4   Senator Fuschillo in thanking Governor Cuomo for 

 5   presenting an individual who has extremely 

 6   broad-based experience and is well up to the 

 7   challenges that our two most important 

 8   thoroughfares in New York State are facing.  

 9                That as the Senator representing the 

10   longest run of the New York State Thruway and the 

11   longest run of the New York State barge canal 

12   system, the Thruway Authority is a very important 

13   component of job development in the central 

14   Finger Lakes, upstate New York region.  

15                As such, Governor Cuomo's decision 

16   to reach out into the business community to find 

17   a person with an exemplary background as 

18   Mr. Milstein I think is a great tribute to the 

19   Governor's acumen and a better tribute to 

20   Mr. Milstein's desire to serve his community.

21                I should add very quickly that 

22   Mr. Milstein has already demonstrated, through 

23   his efforts, his leadership, his involvement with 

24   the best university in all of New York State -- 

25   and I know you all know that's Cornell 

                                                               4422

 1   University.  But we're very proud as Cornellians 

 2   to have Howard, who's a classmate of mine of a 

 3   number of years ago, of 1973.  And I know Senator 

 4   Carlucci, who graduated about 30 years after us, 

 5   is also very, very appreciative of Mr. Milstein's 

 6   work for our alma mater.  

 7                I said this at our committees; I'm 

 8   going to say it one more time.  That 

 9   Mr. Milstein, Howard Milstein, does not need the 

10   job of being the chairman of the Thruway 

11   Authority, but the important job of the Thruway 

12   Authority needs a person like Mr. Milstein to 

13   move it forward and to ensure that it can be and 

14   continue to be what it really should be, which is 

15   a job-development engine for New York State.

16                With that, I thank, Mr. President, 

17   you and my colleagues for the opportunity to 

18   speak and support this wonderful nomination.  

19   Thank you, Mr. President.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

21   you, Senator.

22                Senator Maziarz.

23                SENATOR MAZIARZ:   Thank you very 

24   much, Mr. President.

25                I too rise just to echo what my 

                                                               4423

 1   colleagues said and congratulate the Governor on 

 2   the appointment of Howard Milstein.  

 3                As I said in the Transportation 

 4   Committee, I've known Mr. Milstein for several 

 5   years now, and he is exactly the type of 

 6   person -- a businessperson, an individual who is 

 7   open to private/public private partnerships -- 

 8   this is exactly what the New York State Thruway 

 9   Authority needs.

10                As Senator Nozzolio pointed out, the 

11   canal and the Thruway Authority are very 

12   prominent in upstate.  And we talked about the 

13   Tappan Zee Bridge issue and some of the other 

14   important issues facing the Thruway Authority in 

15   the next decade.  And that we in upstate consider 

16   those issues to be our issues anyway, to be 

17   equally important.  And I think Mr. Milstein 

18   understands that and appreciates that and will do 

19   the right thing by the people of the State of 

20   New York.  

21                Mr. President, I'm honored to second 

22   this nomination.  

23                And just to all of the nominees here 

24   today, you picked a very unusual day to be here.  

25   And believe me, things are not always this 

                                                               4424

 1   chaotic, okay?  When I spoke to Mr. Milstein last 

 2   week and he told me that the Governor's office 

 3   had made the arrangements to be here on a 

 4   Wednesday at 9:00 o'clock, I guaranteed him:  "So 

 5   Wednesday, 9:00 o'clock, you'll be out of here by 

 6   noon."  So sorry about that, Howard.

 7                (Laughter.)

 8                SENATOR MAZIARZ:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

11   you, Senator.

12                Senator Oppenheimer.

13                SENATOR OPPENHEIMER:   Things are 

14   never or always this chaotic?  

15                Well, I'm delighted to second the 

16   nomination of Howard Milstein.  We've heard much 

17   about his business skills, which we all know 

18   about -- real estate, banking, finance, all 

19   things that are going to be very important and 

20   are very important for the current and the future 

21   success of the Thruway Authority.

22                I noted that there were so many 

23   dozens of boards and executive committees that 

24   Mr. Milstein was on, which shows the depth and 

25   width of his many interests, from religious to 

                                                               4425

 1   musical to art to educational to healthcare.  And 

 2   it speaks of how highly respected he is outside 

 3   of the business world.

 4                My only concern was that a person 

 5   with this number of interests and so many 

 6   commitments, how would he be able to do the job 

 7   of chair of the Thruway Authority?  And he 

 8   reminded me of a statement I've heard many times, 

 9   which is if you want to get the job done, you go 

10   to a busy person.  Because they get to doing it 

11   right away so that they can get it off their 

12   plate.  And I subscribe to that thinking, and 

13   therefore I know that Howard Milstein is going to 

14   be a wonderful, brilliant chair of our Thruway 

15   Authority.

16                Thank you.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

18   you, Senator.

19                Any other Senators wishing to be 

20   heard?

21                Senator Kennedy.

22                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.  I too want to rise and 

24   congratulate Howard Milstein on his nomination 

25   and his appointment.  

                                                               4426

 1                I'm very proud to vote in the 

 2   affirmative for this appointment.  As a member of 

 3   the Transportation Committee, we earlier today 

 4   signaled our support for Howard Milstein to this 

 5   position.  I want to congratulate the Governor on 

 6   another fine choice.  

 7                And I definitely look forward to 

 8   working with you, Howard, in moving the Thruway 

 9   Authority forward and improving the conditions 

10   across all of New York State, especially 

11   improving the infrastructure as it pertains to 

12   the people of my district out in Western 

13   New York.  So again, congratulations and thank 

14   you.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

16   you, Senator Kennedy.

17                The question is on the nomination of 

18   Howard Milstein as member and chair of the 

19   New York State Thruway Authority.

20                All in favor signify by saying aye.

21                (Response of "Aye.")

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

23   nay.

24                (No response.)

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Howard 

                                                               4427

 1   Milstein is hereby confirmed as member and chair 

 2   of the New York State Thruway Authority.

 3                (Applause.)

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

 5   Mr. Milstein, congratulations.

 6                The Secretary will read.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   As a commissioner 

 8   of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, 

 9   Scott Howard Rechler, of Old Brookville.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

11   DeFrancisco.

12                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, I move 

13   the nomination of Scott Howard Rechler as a 

14   commissioner of the Port Authority of New York 

15   and New Jersey and again would ask you to 

16   recognize the esteemed Long Island Senator, 

17   chairman of Transportation, Senator Fuschillo, to 

18   second the nomination.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

20   Fuschillo.

21                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:   Thank you very 

22   much, Mr. President.  

23                And, Senator DeFrancisco, you 

24   finally got the introduction correct of me after 

25   all these years in the chambers.

                                                               4428

 1                (Laughter.)

 2                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:  And I rise to 

 3   second the nomination and support the nomination 

 4   of a fellow Long Islander.  And I won't hold that 

 5   against you, as some others from upstate New York 

 6   had booed you in the committee.

 7                But you certainly possess, as did 

 8   the first nominee, Jeffrey Lynford, the necessary 

 9   qualifications to serve on the Port Authority as 

10   one of the commissioners.  And we've stressed to 

11   you that we feel strongly that we don't get our 

12   fair share.  And I must say it was quite 

13   refreshing to hear your responses, and the other 

14   nominee.  And I'm confident you will serve the 

15   residents of New York State with great 

16   distinction.  

17                I applaud your willingness to serve, 

18   and I congratulate Governor Cuomo.  I proudly 

19   second the nomination, Mr. President.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

21   you, Senator.

22                Senator Marcellino.

23                SENATOR MARCELLINO:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.  I too rise to congratulate the 

25   nominee of the Governor.  It's a good nomination, 

                                                               4429

 1   and I know he will serve with distinction.  

 2                His reputation is well known 

 3   throughout the Long Island community and the 

 4   entire tristate area.  It was a pleasure to see 

 5   him at the Finance Committee and hear the kind 

 6   remarks made by my colleagues.  And we 

 7   Long Islanders have to stick together, as you now 

 8   know, in the face of this upstate onslaught.  But 

 9   we will survive.

10                I proudly vote aye on this 

11   nomination.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

13   you, Senator Marcellino.  

14                Senator Hannon.

15                SENATOR HANNON:   Yes, 

16   Mr. President, I rise to commend to this body the 

17   nomination of Mr. Rechler.  

18                He has not only served the community 

19   of Long Island quite well, but, because of his 

20   business interests throughout the metropolitan 

21   area, is especially well-suited to be on the Port 

22   Authority to work on the essential transportation 

23   components that the Port Authority addresses 

24   itself to, as well as the economic advancement of 

25   the metropolitan area.

                                                               4430

 1                So I know that with his 

 2   accomplishments heretofore and with his talents 

 3   that he will be a real positive addition to this 

 4   government.  So thank you.  I commend him.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

 6   you, Senator Hannon.

 7                Are there any other Senators who 

 8   wish to be heard?

 9                The question is on the nomination of 

10   Scott Howard Rechler as a commissioner of the 

11   Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.  All 

12   in favor signify by saying aye.

13                (Response of "Aye.")

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

15   nay.

16                (No response.)

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Scott 

18   Howard Rechler is hereby confirmed as a 

19   commissioner of the Port Authority of New York 

20   and New Jersey.  

21                Mr. Rechler, congratulations.

22                (Applause.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

24   Secretary will read.

25                THE SECRETARY:   As a member of the 

                                                               4431

 1   New York State Metropolitan Transportation 

 2   Authority, Fernando Ferrer, of the Bronx.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

 4   DeFrancisco.

 5                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, I 

 6   proudly rise to move the nomination of Fernando 

 7   Ferrer as a member of the New York State 

 8   Metropolitan Transportation Authority.  

 9                I never met the nominee until 

10   yesterday, and it's amazing how when you meet 

11   somebody you immediately get an impression of the 

12   individual.  And I had heard about him for many, 

13   many years and his service in New York City and 

14   the things he's done in the city and his public 

15   service.  And I immediately got a feeling that 

16   this is the type of person that truly loves what 

17   he's doing, wants to continue to contribute.

18                People always ask me why I keep 

19   running for office year after year.  I thought I 

20   figured it out when my son won a city council 

21   seat in Syracuse; I thought it was that it was a 

22   genetic defect, that you keep wanting to be 

23   beaten up continuously in the public eye.

24                But it's much, much more than that, 

25   obviously.  It's someone, as with Mr. Ferrer, 

                                                               4432

 1   that is someone who is truly dedicated to public 

 2   service that wants to do good.  Again, here's an 

 3   individual, doesn't have to come back and doesn't 

 4   have to serve more.  He's served more than most 

 5   would ever consider, and served admirably.  But 

 6   the fact that he's willing to serve at this time 

 7   in history with this very difficult body that has 

 8   so many difficult issues before it is a true 

 9   tribute to the individual.  

10                And we're very, very happy that the 

11   Governor appointed you and that you were willing 

12   to serve.

13                With that said, if there is anything 

14   else to say, I'm going to turn it over and ask 

15   you to have Senator Fuschillo second the 

16   nomination of this fine candidate.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

18   you, Senator DeFrancisco.

19                If there is anything else to say, 

20   Senator Fuschillo.

21                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:   Thank you very 

22   much, Mr. President.  Thank you, Senator 

23   DeFrancisco.

24                I've had the pleasure of 

25   interviewing and approving several nominees this 

                                                               4433

 1   morning, all eminently qualified.  And Fernando 

 2   Ferrer is the example of somebody who's dedicated 

 3   his life not only to public service but to his 

 4   community and to his family.  

 5                He gets it, when you talk about the 

 6   MTA.  He's somebody who rides that transportation 

 7   system on a daily basis.  We've expressed to him 

 8   the enormous challenges that the MTA will be 

 9   facing shortly, a $10 billion gap.  And, Freddy, 

10   I hope you have the answers for that, for the 

11   capital program.  

12                As we spoke, we toured the East Side 

13   Access, that needs to be continued funding, the 

14   Second Avenue Subway project, and on and on and 

15   on, while -- while -- not cutting services or 

16   raising fares.  And we know you're certainly up 

17   to the challenge.  

18                Mr. President, I proudly support 

19   this nomination.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

21   you, Senator Fuschillo.

22                Senator Rivera.

23                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.  I rise today to enthusiastically 

25   support the nomination of my constituent Fernando 

                                                               4434

 1   Ferrer.  

 2                There's actually many things yet 

 3   left to say, and I'll repeat the last name to 

 4   make sure that the R's are rolled on the floor of 

 5   the Senate -- make sure that you put a lot of R's 

 6   there -- Ferrnando Ferrrerr -- who is not only my 

 7   constituent but also my friend.  

 8                I remember before I actually got to 

 9   really know him during my campaign last year, 

10   when I actually bumped into him more than once on 

11   the bus or on the train.  Without any type of 

12   security, without any type of, you know, pomp and 

13   circumstance, just somebody going to their 

14   office, going to their work.  

15                As somebody who is a user of the 

16   Metro system, of the train system and the bus 

17   every single day, I know that we need people in 

18   the MTA board who understand the importance of 

19   the MTA to the City of New York as the backbone 

20   of the transportation system in the city.  And I 

21   know that Freddy is going to be -- is not only an 

22   excellent nomination, he will be a fantastic 

23   advocate for public transportation in the MTA 

24   board.

25                So as somebody who has not only 

                                                               4435

 1   worked in both of his -- in his 2001 campaign and 

 2   his 2005 campaign, and as somebody who has gotten 

 3   to know him very well over the last year, I can 

 4   proudly say that Fernando Ferrer is my friend, 

 5   has been a mentor, and will be a fantastic 

 6   advocate for all of New York State in the MTA 

 7   board.

 8                So I stand again to say:  Freddy, 

 9   thank you for your service, because you certainly 

10   don't have to be doing it.  And one last thing, I 

11   would -- and I'm actually going to talk to the 

12   Governor to see if we can convince you to do 

13   this.  I'd like you to grow your mustache back.  

14   I think it would actually just add to your 

15   already great resume.

16                (Laughter.)

17                SENATOR RIVERA:  So again, I 

18   encourage everyone to support Freddy.

19                Thank you so much, Mr. President.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

21   you, Senator Rivera.

22                Senator Marcellino.

23                SENATOR MARCELLINO:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.

25                I rise to support this nomination, 

                                                               4436

 1   and I will.  I have never met Mr. Ferrer, and we 

 2   don't know each other.  I have read about him and 

 3   I've read about his career, I've followed it over 

 4   the years.  And I have always found that no 

 5   matter what the article, no matter whether I 

 6   agree with the political position he took or not, 

 7   I always felt that he was an honorable and honest 

 8   gentleman.  

 9                The MTA needs honorable, honest, and 

10   outspoken people on the board.  Too many times, 

11   sir, people join that board and then disappear.  

12   We never hear from them again.  We never hear of 

13   them again.  

14                The MTA is a troubled entity.  It is 

15   in deep financial distress.  It is hemorrhaging 

16   dollars on an annual basis.  And it seems the 

17   only recourse is to turn back to the riders in 

18   the raising of fares or cutting services, neither 

19   of which is a good thing and neither of which is 

20   a desirable thing.

21                Long Island gets help from the MTA.  

22   Riders use it to go to the East End and go to our 

23   resorts and beaches.  And some of our workers and 

24   some of my constituents use it to travel the Long 

25   Island Railroad into the city and to travel on 

                                                               4437

 1   the buses, limited though they may be in their 

 2   routes.

 3                The system needs an outspoken 

 4   advocate, one who will stand up for the riders, 

 5   stand up for the people who need the system, who 

 6   use the system -- the subway riders, the bus 

 7   riders, the Long Island Railroad riders, the 

 8   people who use it -- and to work for them to make 

 9   the service better, more effective, more 

10   efficient, but affordable.  

11                It is a mass transit system that it 

12   runs, and too often that system is now becoming 

13   an elite transit system because not a lot of 

14   people can afford the ride the railroad to work.  

15   They're jumping back in their cars, which is 

16   where we don't want them, clogging up the 

17   streets, polluting the air.  We want them on the 

18   mass transit system.  We want them on the 

19   subways, we want them on the railroad, and we 

20   want them on the buses.  But they can't go there 

21   if they can't afford it.

22                So we're going to need your help.  

23   We're going to move soon to pass a bill in this 

24   house to repeal the MTA payroll tax, which I 

25   voted against when it was put on in the first 

                                                               4438

 1   place, because I think and I believe it's a 

 2   job-killer.  And it's the last thing we need 

 3   during what we are going through now in economics 

 4   and there's a recession.  

 5                So you've got a job ahead of you, 

 6   sir.  Not an easy one.  I wish you well.  And I 

 7   offer you my support and help, and I'll be more 

 8   than happy to sit down and talk to you on behalf 

 9   of my constituents as to what you can do for 

10   them.

11                My colleague Senator Fuschillo has 

12   talked to you about the capital needs of the 

13   system, and he also believes, like I believe, the 

14   riders are paramount.

15                So I support this nomination, sir.  

16   I wish you well.  And I offer you help.

17                Thank you, Mr. President.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

19   you, Senator Marcellino.

20                Senator Smith.

21                SENATOR SMITH:   Thank you very 

22   much, Mr. President.  

23                Sorry I wasn't here earlier to lend 

24   my support and second the nomination also of 

25   Howard Milstein.  Good to see you, Howard.  And 

                                                               4439

 1   less golf, because you'll be working harder.  But 

 2   you couldn't have got a better person to chair 

 3   the Thruway Authority, there's no question about 

 4   that.  

 5                But I now have the opportunity to 

 6   say a word or two about my good friend Freddy 

 7   Ferrer.  Obviously the Governor needs to be 

 8   applauded on the recommendation.  For someone to 

 9   be on the MTA of his caliber obviously bodes well 

10   for us as a state and also for the authority.  

11                Jay Walder and I had a conversation 

12   a few days ago, and I was explaining to him the 

13   caliber in which Fernando Ferrer will be for that 

14   board.  And obviously when it comes to making 

15   touch decisions -- and it's clear that the MTA 

16   will have its challenges going forward -- but you 

17   could not get someone of brighter and sharper 

18   intellect, someone who understands the City of 

19   New York as well as the State of New York, 

20   someone whose devotion and commitment to public 

21   service is unquestionable, as Freddy Ferrer.  

22                And it is my honor, Mr. President, 

23   to stand here before you to second his 

24   nomination.  I'm sure there willing be many 

25   members who will be sending accolades toward this 

                                                               4440

 1   member of the MTA.  But let's be clear, let's be 

 2   very clear that the Governor has made an 

 3   exceptional choice by putting forth this 

 4   nominee.  And that is why I'm here today on this 

 5   prestigious floor to nominate Freddy Ferrer and 

 6   be happy to be the person doing so to the MTA.  

 7                Congratulations.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

 9   you, Senator Smith.

10                Senator Klein.

11                SENATOR KLEIN:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.

13                Over the years I've had the 

14   opportunity to second the nomination on a lot of 

15   appointments, but I have to say there hasn't been 

16   one of them who I respect as much or consider a 

17   close friend.

18                Freddy Ferrer is one of those people 

19   you deem a public man, someone who has spent his 

20   whole life dedicated to public service.  First as 

21   a New York City Council member, where he chaired 

22   the Health Committee, then as the Bronx borough 

23   president.  

24                And if many of you remember your 

25   history, Freddy Ferrer took over the Bronx after 

                                                               4441

 1   the Bronx was considered the borough that was 

 2   burning.  He built more housing than any borough 

 3   president in the history of the Bronx, put the 

 4   Bronx back on the map, and was someone who 

 5   constantly advocated and explained to people that 

 6   the Bronx was coming back.  And because of his 

 7   effort, the Bronx did come back and now is the 

 8   home to a very diverse group of people that I 

 9   think contribute a lot not only to our city but 

10   to the state.

11                Freddy Ferrer is also someone who 

12   takes public service very seriously.  So I think 

13   his new role on the MTA board will not only be 

14   good for the riders, the residents of the Bronx, 

15   but the entire State of New York.  And I happily 

16   second the nomination of Freddy Ferrer as a 

17   member of the MTA board.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

19   you, Senator Klein.

20                Senator Peralta.

21                SENATOR PERALTA:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.

23                I rise to support the nomination of 

24   Fernando Ferrer.  I'm going to take this 

25   opportunity to not only congratulate him but also 

                                                               4442

 1   thank him.  

 2                Freddy, congratulations on your 

 3   nomination to this board of the MTA, and I know 

 4   which will -- I expect this to be a resounding 

 5   confirmation.

 6                I also want to take this opportunity 

 7   to thank Freddy Ferrer not only for the many 

 8   years of faithful, distinguished service in the 

 9   City of New York, but also for opening the doors 

10   for those of us who came after him.  

11                So I want to thank him, I want to 

12   wish him luck in this new chapter of his life, 

13   and I vote to confirm Mr. Fernando Ferrer for the 

14   MTA board, Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

16   you, Senator.

17                Senator Espaillat.

18                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Thank you, 

19   Mr. President.  I also rise to second the 

20   nomination of Fernando Ferrer.  

21                I think he lives in my district, 

22   Senator Rivera.  But, you know, we'll take that 

23   fight outside.  We'll Google his name and see 

24   where he comes up.  He may have even voted for 

25   me.

                                                               4443

 1                But anyway, he is a distinguished 

 2   New Yorker, someone that has proven himself on 

 3   the ground by bringing the Bronx back.  We may 

 4   all remember, particularly Yankee fans, the words 

 5   of Howard Cosell, "The Bronx is burning," during 

 6   that World Series.  And he brought that borough 

 7   back to the degree that it finally got the 

 8   All-American City award in 1999.  So he is 

 9   someone that has proven himself with deeds.  

10                And I am sure that he will be an 

11   excellent board member.  He will take on the 

12   issues of security in the subway system because 

13   he has already done that in the Bronx, as there 

14   was a deep decline in crime during his borough 

15   presidentship.  He will also be very strong with 

16   the capital plan, because he rebuilt the Bronx 

17   and he built over 66,000 homes and apartments.  

18   So he know about the capital plan.  And he will 

19   also be good for straphangers, because he's a 

20   rider himself.

21                So this is someone that brings all 

22   these attributes to the table, and I am very 

23   happy to stand here and second his nomination.  

24   Except that I will be voting against that 

25   elimination of the mobility tax, because I think 

                                                               4444

 1   the MTA needs more resources.  We need to make 

 2   his job a little bit easier.  And since it 

 3   services 12 counties across the state, I think 

 4   that we need to take a look at that.  

 5                But, Freddy, we don't want to throw 

 6   you in the fray.  We welcome you to the Senate 

 7   chamber, and we are confident your confirmation 

 8   will be accepted by all of us.  Congratulations.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

10   you, Senator.

11                Senator Perkins.

12                SENATOR PERKINS:   Thank you very 

13   much.

14                I want to join my colleagues in 

15   seconding the motion on behalf of Fernando 

16   Ferrer, who is the epitome of a public servant, 

17   with many outstanding accomplishments which have 

18   already been quite eloquently articulated that 

19   more than qualify him for this most important 

20   position.  

21                But for me, I guess the most 

22   significant credential that he brings is in his 

23   pocket.  It's this thing called the MetroCard.  

24   Because this is the card that signals most 

25   significantly that he is in touch with his job, 

                                                               4445

 1   that he knows what this job is on a daily basis, 

 2   that he knows -- this is not someone that rides 

 3   the subway a few stops and gets off to take his 

 4   limousine to his office.  This is someone that 

 5   knows what this means to the person that he is 

 6   serving, and therefore will be very much in 

 7   tune -- he'll be on track, if you will -- with 

 8   what it takes to do the job for the people of the 

 9   City of New York and I daresay for the people 

10   throughout the whole region.  

11                So it's been an honor to work with 

12   you.  It's been an honor to be a part of this new 

13   stage in your career.  And I look forward to 

14   continuing to work with you as we move forward.  

15                Thank you.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

17   you, Senator Perkins.

18                Senator Serrano.

19                SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you very 

20   much, Mr. President.  

21                It's truly an honor to stand here on 

22   the Senate floor and second the nomination and 

23   congratulate my friend Freddy Ferrer for his 

24   nomination to the MTA board.  And I want to thank 

25   Governor Cuomo for putting this nomination 

                                                               4446

 1   forth.  

 2                And it is quite evident, all my 

 3   colleagues have mentioned before I spoke about 

 4   the transformation that we saw in the Bronx.  But 

 5   for a person like myself growing up in the South 

 6   Bronx in the '70s and '80s, people remember what 

 7   the neighborhoods were like.  Unfortunately, the 

 8   Bronx had become sort of a punch line.  But the 

 9   moment that Freddy became the borough president, 

10   there was almost an immediate but ongoing 

11   transformation of the community.  

12                He brought tremendous energy, he 

13   brought tremendous integrity to the work that was 

14   going to happen.  And because of that integrity, 

15   there were people who wanted to work with him, 

16   there were people who wanted to help him in his 

17   endeavor to not only change the reality of the 

18   Bronx but the perception, which I think was 

19   equally as important.

20                So now when we think about the 

21   Bronx, we think about a place that is thriving, 

22   we think about a place that has come from, in 

23   many ways, humble beginnings, just like he was -- 

24   born on Fox Street, correct?  Did I get that 

25   right?  Just a kid from Fox Street, grew up in 

                                                               4447

 1   humble conditions, and rose to be one of the 

 2   great leaders we've seen in the City of 

 3   New York.  And I think his life serves as an 

 4   inspiration for many people, for many young 

 5   people not only in the Bronx but people 

 6   throughout the State of New York.  

 7                Luckily, I've known him almost all 

 8   my life.  He's always been a good friend to me.  

 9   But more importantly, he has been a role model 

10   for people about the importance of public 

11   service.  

12                And I'm so happy and so grateful, 

13   Freddy, that you are continuing in the role of 

14   public service.  I want to thank you for all your 

15   years of mentorship to me and to Gustavo and many 

16   other young elected officials -- I like to think 

17   of myself as young, but -- youngish.  But I want 

18   to thank you very much, Freddy, and congratulate 

19   the Governor and look forward to your nomination 

20   and confirmation.  

21                Thank you.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

23   you, Senator.

24                Senator Stavisky.

25                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

                                                               4448

 1   Mr. President.

 2                This morning at the Transportation 

 3   Committee I asked Mr. Ferrer --  I'm not 

 4   pronouncing it, I know, the way Senator Rivera 

 5   pronounces it.  But I asked him, "What do you 

 6   know about subways?"  And he pulled out his 

 7   MetroCard.  And that, to me, tells us that he 

 8   gets it, he understands what the subways are all 

 9   about.  

10                His service in other parts of 

11   government, other areas demonstrate that he has a 

12   well-developed, well-honed knowledge of 

13   government.  And when Senator Serrano indicated 

14   that the former borough president lived on 

15   Fox Street, I must say, Mr. Borough President, 

16   that my -- and we've discussed this before, but 

17   my husband too lived on Fox Street, in the eight 

18   hundred -- 864, I think it was, Fox Street.  

19                And I congratulate you, and we look 

20   forward to your leadership on the MTA board.

21                Thank you.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

23   you, Senator.

24                Senator Hassell-Thompson.

25                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

                                                               4449

 1   you, Mr. President.  

 2                I rise to congratulate the Governor 

 3   on his appointment, and certainly as someone who 

 4   came into the government in the Bronx under his 

 5   leadership.  And he was Freddy.  Very down to 

 6   earth, very real, understood the districts.  We 

 7   watched the Bronx undergo a magnificent change 

 8   under his leadership and administration.  And I 

 9   know that he will bring that same leadership to 

10   the MTA, which desperately needs his help.

11                He is a leader.  And he does it in a 

12   very quiet, unassuming manner, but with firmness 

13   and commitment.  And I thank him for his many 

14   years of service.  And I hope that he considers 

15   this a reward, because he will continue to serve 

16   the people of the State of New York very, very 

17   well.  

18                And I commend the Governor on this 

19   appointment and add my thanks to him and 

20   congratulate him on his successful achievement 

21   today.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

23   you, Senator.

24                Senator Montgomery:

25                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Thank you, 

                                                               4450

 1   Mr. President.  

 2                It gives me a great deal of pride 

 3   and pleasure to be able to stand and second the 

 4   nomination for Freddy Ferrer for this important 

 5   position on the MTA.  

 6                I have known him and known of him 

 7   from the time that he was borough president of 

 8   the Bronx, and I have always been impressed by 

 9   the fact that he is a people's person and cares 

10   about the citizens of New York, all of them.  

11                And so I've watched, over the years, 

12   him make tremendous contributions.  He was one of 

13   the only people of his stature who would come all 

14   the way from the Bronx to Brooklyn many years ago 

15   to offer us, at a hearing, some significant 

16   options for ways in which we could address the 

17   aggressive policing which we were experiencing in 

18   Brooklyn.  Obviously, we still are.  But at that 

19   time he had some ideas he shared with us based on 

20   his own experiences and knowledge.  

21                And I have always admired the fact 

22   that I could look to him as a person who was a 

23   public servant with complete integrity and 

24   commitment.  So it's wonderful that he, knowing 

25   the City of New York, knowing the needs of the 

                                                               4451

 1   people who live there, understanding all of the 

 2   neighborhoods and the nuances of the cultural and 

 3   all of the rhythms of our city, that he will be 

 4   representing the people of the city and the state 

 5   as a member of the Metropolitan Transportation 

 6   Authority.  

 7                So it's my pleasure and I thank him 

 8   for accepting, thank the Governor for choosing 

 9   him, and look forward to working with him over 

10   the years.  

11                Thank you, Mr. President.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

13   you, Senator Montgomery.

14                Senator Squadron.

15                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.  

17                I just want to join the chorus.  

18   While I today represent parts of Brooklyn and 

19   Lower Manhattan, I am a son of the Bronx, born 

20   and raised there, and was very honored as I was 

21   growing up to know that Freddy Ferrer, Fernando 

22   Ferrer, was our borough president.  He did such a 

23   great job, was such a big part of the renaissance 

24   that's happening there.  

25                In a time that was really tougher 

                                                               4452

 1   for the city, a time when especially in the 

 2   boroughs outside of Manhattan economic 

 3   development, trying to get neighborhoods 

 4   revitalized, was that much more challenging, he 

 5   was on the forefront of it, was a great leader, 

 6   was a name that was always spoken with great 

 7   reverence in my home growing up, and for good 

 8   reason.  

 9                And I'm very glad to be able to vote 

10   in support of his nomination today.  Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

13   you, Senator Squadron.

14                Senator Parker.

15                SENATOR PARKER:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. Chairman.  On the nomination.

17                I just really want to add my voice 

18   to those who have gotten up and sang the praises 

19   of this nominee.  Fernando Ferrer has been a -- 

20   not just a great leader in New York City and in 

21   our community and in this state, but a friend.  

22   He's somebody who's always been there to stand 

23   for the right things and the right people at the 

24   right times.  

25                And so certainly this is -- you 

                                                               4453

 1   know, now is the time for a man such as this to 

 2   come and bring some order to the chaos that has 

 3   been the MTA, somebody to be on the side of the 

 4   riders, somebody who understands what the 

 5   farepayers are going through and the things that 

 6   need to be done.  We can certainly use his 

 7   leadership.  

 8                I congratulate the Governor and 

 9   congratulate him on this important nomination and 

10   look forward to our continued partnership to make 

11   not just the City of New York and the MTA but 

12   making this state as great as it should be.  

13   Thank you.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

15   you, Senator Parker.

16                Any other Senators wishing to be 

17   heard?

18                The question is on the nomination of 

19   Fernando Ferrer as a member of the New York State 

20   Metropolitan Transportation Authority.  All in 

21   favor signify by saying aye.

22                (Response of "Aye.")

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

24   nay.

25                (No response.)

                                                               4454

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Fernando 

 2   Ferrer is hereby confirmed as a member of the 

 3   New York State Metropolitan Transportation 

 4   Authority.  

 5                (Standing ovation.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

 7   Mr. Borough President, congratulations and 

 8   Godspeed.

 9                The Secretary will read.

10                THE SECRETARY:   As a member of the 

11   Battery Park City Authority, Donald A. Capoccia, 

12   of New York City.

13                As commissioner of the New York 

14   State Insurance Fund, Mario Cilento, of 

15   Orangeburg.

16                As a member of the Republic Airport 

17   Commission, Joan Flaumenbaum, of Farmingdale.  

18                As a member of the board of 

19   directors of the New York Convention Center 

20   Operating Corporation, Edward P. Kane, of 

21   Rockville Centre.  

22                As a member of the board of 

23   directors of the New York Convention Center 

24   Operating Corporation, Gary Lavine, of 

25   Fayetteville.

                                                               4455

 1                As a member of the board of trustees 

 2   of the City University of New York, Joseph J. 

 3   Lhota, of Brooklyn.

 4                As a director of the New York State 

 5   Urban Development Corporation, Dennis Mehiel, of 

 6   New York City.

 7                As members of the New York State 

 8   Council on the Arts:  Aby J. Rosen, of New York 

 9   City; Jonathan Bard Sheffer, of New York City; 

10   and Richard J. Schwartz, of New York City.

11                As director and chief of the 

12   New York State Urban Development Corporation, 

13   Julie A. Shimer, of Skaneateles.  

14                As a member of the New York State 

15   Dormitory Authority, Beryl L. Snyder, of New York 

16   City.  

17                As a member of the New York State 

18   Public Health and Health Planning Council, 

19   Theodore J. Strange, of Staten Island.

20                As a commissioner of the Ohio River 

21   Valley Water Sanitation Commission, Michael P. 

22   Wilson, of Dunkirk.

23                As trustee of the Power Authority of 

24   the State of New York, Raymond Wayne LeChase, of 

25   Rochester.

                                                               4456

 1                As a member of the Republic Airport 

 2   Commission, Vincent A. Bologna, of West Babylon.  

 3                And as a member of the Ogdensburg 

 4   Bridge and Port Authority, Douglas W. Loffler, of 

 5   Ogdensburg.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

 7   DeFrancisco.

 8                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, I would 

 9   move each of the nominations and just comment 

10   extremely briefly on a couple, and then you can 

11   recognize others in the chambers.

12                First of all, Richard Schwartz has 

13   been nominated for the Council on the Arts.  He 

14   was chairman of the Council on the Arts for 

15   years.  Just a wonderful person, did wonderful 

16   things for the arts.  And I'm just pleased that 

17   he's willing to continue to serve.

18                Also, a Central New Yorker from a 

19   very important corporation in our community, 

20   Julie Shimer -- who is the chief executive 

21   officer and president of Welch Allyn, one of our 

22   fantastic high-tech corporations that keeps 

23   expanding even in these difficult times -- was 

24   nominated as a member of the New York State Urban 

25   Development Corporation.  What a great 

                                                               4457

 1   nomination, and someone from Central New York is 

 2   really a good thing in upstate.

 3                And Gary Lavine, who's also an 

 4   Onondaga County resident, was legislative counsel 

 5   in the Senate and in the Assembly and also was 

 6   vice president and general counsel to Niagara 

 7   Mohawk, another great nomination.  

 8                And I'm very pleased that the 

 9   Governor is recognizing Central New York and some 

10   of those wonderful people for these nominations.

11                And I would request that you 

12   recognize -- I believe Senator Hassell-Thompson 

13   would like to comment on one or more of the 

14   nominees as well.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

16   you, Senator DeFrancisco.

17                Before we call on Senator 

18   Hassell-Thompson, can we please have order in the 

19   house as we continue with these nominations.

20                Senator Hassell-Thompson.

21                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

22   you, Mr. President.

23                Again, I rise to congratulate the 

24   Governor on his appointments.  And very 

25   specifically, I would like to direct my 

                                                               4458

 1   congratulations to Dennis Mehiel, who is going to 

 2   be a director of the New York State Urban 

 3   Development Corp.  

 4                And as someone who has been a major 

 5   businessman in the State of New York and who has 

 6   himself run for public office, unsuccessfully, 

 7   but is very committed to this state, I think that 

 8   he will make an extraordinary member of this 

 9   board and certainly make a tremendous 

10   contribution, for which I congratulate the 

11   Governor and congratulate him on this 

12   appointment.

13                Thank you, Mr. President.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

15   you, Senator.

16                Senator Squadron.

17                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.  And congratulations to all of the 

19   nominees.  

20                Particular congratulations to Donald 

21   Capoccia, who's going to be on the board of the 

22   Battery Park City Authority in my district.  

23   Congratulations, as I say, to Mr. Capoccia, and 

24   we are certainly happy to have him in Battery 

25   Park City.  

                                                               4459

 1                I do want to point out how critical 

 2   it is that we also move forward with nominations 

 3   of community members in Battery Park City.  

 4   That's something that began under the previous 

 5   administration; unfortunately, the members were 

 6   not confirmed.  

 7                And I just want to highlight again 

 8   that we're very pleased to have Donald Capoccia 

 9   on the Battery Park City.  It is critical that we 

10   also get members of the community on that 

11   authority and do it quickly.  The names have been 

12   put out, the local elected officials in the 

13   community have spoken.  And so I would urge the 

14   Governor to move forward with community 

15   representation in addition to Mr. Capoccia, whose 

16   nomination I will vote in support of.  

17                Thank you, Mr. President.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

19   you, Senator.

20                Any other Senators wishing to be 

21   heard?

22                The question is on the nomination of 

23   the members as read by the Secretary.  All in 

24   favor signify by saying aye.

25                (Response of "Aye.")

                                                               4460

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

 2   nay.

 3                (No response.)

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

 5   members as read by the Secretary are hereby 

 6   confirmed.

 7                (Applause.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

 9   Libous.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

11   we go to motions and resolutions, please. 

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Motions 

13   and resolutions.

14                Senator Libous.  

15                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I have a motion on 

16   behalf of Senator Hannon.  On page 25, I offer to 

17   the following amendments to Calendar Number 629, 

18   Senate Print 3503A, and ask that said bill retain 

19   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

21   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

22   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   And if you could 

24   call on Senator Valesky, Mr. President.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

                                                               4461

 1   Valesky.

 2                SENATOR VALESKY:   Mr. President, I 

 3   wish to call up Senator Carlucci's bill, Senate 

 4   Bill 3885, recalled from the Assembly, which is 

 5   now at the desk.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

 7   you, Senator.  The Secretary will read.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   318, by Senator Carlucci, Senate Print 3885, an 

10   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

11                SENATOR VALESKY:   Mr. President, I 

12   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

13   bill passed.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

15   roll on reconsideration.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

18                SENATOR VALESKY:   Mr. President, I 

19   now offer the following amendments.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

21   amendments are received.

22                Senator Libous.

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.  

25                There will be an immediate meeting 

                                                               4462

 1   of the Finance Committee in Room 332, an 

 2   immediate meeting of the Finance Committee in 

 3   Room 332.  I'm told it will be a very quick 

 4   meeting, and then if members come immediately 

 5   back to the floor, we will begin the calendar.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

 7   Immediate meeting of the Finance Committee in 

 8   Room 332.

 9                The Senate will stand at ease.

10                (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

11   at 4:59 p.m.)

12                (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

13   5:01 p.m.)

14                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

15   while we're waiting on the Finance Committee, at 

16   this time could we please call on Senator 

17   Hassell-Thompson for recognizing a very special 

18   group with us today.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

20   Certainly.  Thank you, Senator Libous.

21                Senator Hassell-Thompson.

22                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

23   you again, Mr. President.  

24                I would like to welcome and ask you 

25   to share in the welcome with me of the Youth 

                                                               4463

 1   Civic Leadership Academy, under the directorship 

 2   of Mr. Mark Favors, and for helping to bring 

 3   young men and women from the state of Ohio and 

 4   from Memphis, Tennessee, to New York to see how 

 5   we in the State Legislature pass bills.  

 6                They are joining us in the gallery 

 7   today.  The coordinators are Mark Favors and Gina 

 8   Duncan.  From Memphis, the chaperones are 

 9   Dr. Simone Thomas and Dr. Tanya Biles.  The 

10   students are Torris Harris, Cameron Green, and 

11   Thedric Morton from Memphis, Tennessee.

12                From Ohio, from the Hartford Middle 

13   School, the chaperones are Principal Sandy 

14   Womack, Jr., Deanna Edwards and Mrs. Watkins.  

15   The students are Aaryonna Fontes, Raymon Walker, 

16   Isaiah Smith, Khalil Wilson, Chris Nelson, Mikal 

17   Meadows, Malaisia Taylor, Lamiesha Lytle, 

18   La'Tasia Robinson, Makayla Campbell, Darijah 

19   McCollum, Takeyia Moore, Krystyle Travis, Taylor 

20   Dozier, Iman Blasingame, Imani Womack, and Alexis 

21   Mayle.

22                Please congratulate my children and 

23   thank them for visiting with us, as they do each 

24   year from Ohio and Memphis, to come and see how 

25   New York carries on its legislative business.  

                                                               4464

 1   And they've had a wonderful day today.  

 2                Thank you.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

 4   you, Senator Hassell-Thompson.

 5                (Applause.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Ladies 

 7   and gentlemen, welcome to the New York State 

 8   Senate.  We extend to you the courtesies and 

 9   privileges of the house.  Thank you for being 

10   here.

11                The Senate will stand at ease.

12                (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

13   at 5:03 p.m.)

14                (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

15   5:11 p.m.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

17   Libous.

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, one 

19   second before we start. 

20                All right, Mr. President, I'm 

21   ready.  It took a minute to gather my thoughts, 

22   Mr. President.

23                Could we return to motions and 

24   resolutions.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Motions 

                                                               4465

 1   and resolutions.

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I have a motion, 

 3   Mr. President.  On behalf of Senator Skelos, on 

 4   page 25 I offer the following amendments to 

 5   Calendar Number 637, Senate Print Number 4264B, 

 6   and ask that said bill retain its place on the 

 7   Third Reading Calendar.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

 9   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

10   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

11                SENATOR LIBOUS:   If we could return 

12   to reports of standing committees, I believe 

13   there's a report of the Finance Committee at the 

14   desk.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Reports 

16   of standing committees.

17                The Secretary will read.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Senator 

19   DeFrancisco, from the Committee on Finance, 

20   reports the following nomination.  

21                As a member of the board of 

22   directors of the Roosevelt Island Operating 

23   Corporation, Salvatore Ferrera, of Brooklyn.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

25   DeFrancisco.

                                                               4466

 1                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   I would move 

 2   the nomination.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

 4   you, Senator.

 5                Any Senator wishing to be heard?

 6                The question is on the nomination of 

 7   Salvatore Ferrera as a member of the board of 

 8   directors of the Roosevelt Island Operating 

 9   Corporation.  All in favor signify by saying aye.

10                (Response of "Aye.")

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

12   nay.  

13                (Response of "Nay.")

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

15   Salvatore Ferrera is hereby confirmed as a member 

16   of the board of directors of the Roosevelt Island 

17   Operating Corporation.  

18                Senator Libous.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

20   this time could we take up the reading of the 

21   noncontroversial calendar.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

23   Secretary will read.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 41, 

25   by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 379, an act to 

                                                               4467

 1   amend the Social Services Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.  Nays 3.  

13   Senators Addabbo, Avella and Rivera recorded in 

14   the negative.  

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 49, 

18   by Senator Little, Senate Print 343, an act to 

19   amend the Highway Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

21   last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23   act shall take effect immediately.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

25   roll.

                                                               4468

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3   Calendar Number 49, those recorded in the 

 4   negative are Senators Avella, Dilan, Duane, 

 5   Espaillat, Hassell-Thompson, L. Krueger, 

 6   Montgomery, Parker, Perkins, Rivera, and 

 7   Squadron.  

 8                Ayes, 51.  Nays, 11.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

10   is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 53, 

12   by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 2353, an act to 

13   amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   There is 

15   a home-rule message at the desk.  

16                Read the last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect January 1, 2013.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4469

 1   115, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 2598, an act 

 2   to amend the Penal Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 6   act shall take effect on the first of November.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

12   is passed.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   127, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 2911A, an 

15   act to amend the Education Law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

19   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

21   roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

25   is passed.

                                                               4470

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   188, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1449B, an 

 3   act to amend the Correction Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7   act shall take effect on the first of July.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

12   1.  Senator Montgomery recorded in the negative.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   189, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 3220, 

17   an act to amend the Correction Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect on the first of November.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.  Nays, 

                                                               4471

 1   3.  Senators Montgomery, Parker and Perkins 

 2   recorded in the negative.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   228, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print --

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

 8   the day.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Lay it 

10   aside for the day.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   250, by Senator Addabbo, Senate Print 1271, an 

13   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

22   1.  Senator Diaz recorded in the negative.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4472

 1   410, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 476A --

 2                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 4   is laid aside.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   414, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 1429, an act 

 7   to amend the Correction Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

11   act shall take effect on the 30th day.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

13   roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16   Calendar 414, those recorded in the negative are 

17   Senators Duane, Gianaris, Hassell-Thompson, 

18   Parker, Perkins, Rivera, Squadron and Stavisky.  

19                Ayes, 54.  Nays, 8.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   425, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

24   Assembly Cahill, Assembly Print Number 160A, an 

25   act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

                                                               4473

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 2   last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 6   roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

 9   2.  Senators Diaz and Parker recorded in the 

10   negative.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

12   is passed.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   430, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 4436A, an 

15   act to amend the Penal Law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19   act shall take effect immediately.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

21   roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24   Calendar Number 430, those recorded in the 

25   negative are Senators Duane, Montgomery, Parker, 

                                                               4474

 1   and Perkins.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   431, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 4472, an 

 6   act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect on the 90th day.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

15   2.  Senators Perkins and Parker recorded in the 

16   negative.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   508, by the Senate Committee on Rules --

21                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

23   is laid aside.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   511, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate 

                                                               4475

 1   Print 4872, an act to amend the Tax Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10   Calendar Number 511, those recorded in the 

11   negative are Senators Espaillat, Gianaris, 

12   L. Krueger, Parker, Peralta, Perkins, Rivera, 

13   Squadron and Stavisky.  

14                Ayes, 53.  Nays, 9.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   513, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 4630, an 

19   act to amend the Education Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

21   last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23   act shall take effect immediately.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

25   roll.

                                                               4476

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   516, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 7   Assembly Brennan, Assembly Print Number 6443, an 

 8   act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12   act shall take effect immediately.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   525, by Senator Robach, Senate Print 356, an act 

21   to amend the Correction Law.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

23   last section.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25   act shall take effect on the first of November.

                                                               4477

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 2   roll.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

 5   2.  Senators Montgomery and Parker recorded in 

 6   the negative.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   526, by Senator Maziarz --

11                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

13   is laid aside.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   527, by Senator Young, Senate Print 744A, an act 

16   to amend the Correction Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

20   act shall take effect immediately.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

25   Rivera to explain his vote.

                                                               4478

 1                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 2   Mr. President.  I will be brief.  

 3                I will be in support of this 

 4   legislation.  I remember when it was brought 

 5   before the committee that I am the ranker on, and 

 6   the observation that we made was that even though 

 7   it provides for additional ways for work release 

 8   programs to actually serve in a way to get people 

 9   back into communities, there was an observation 

10   that perhaps it should include for religious 

11   exceptions.  

12                If a person feels that they cannot 

13   serve for a particular organization because of 

14   their religious preferences or their religious 

15   practices, then they might be able to exclude 

16   themselves.  

17                It is included in this version of 

18   the bill.  I voted against it in committee 

19   because it did not have that.  It has it now.  

20   Thank you, Senator Little, for doing that, and I 

21   will be voting in the affirmative on this piece 

22   of legislation.  

23                Thank you, Mr. President.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

25   Rivera will be recorded in the affirmative.  

                                                               4479

 1   Thank you, Senator.

 2                Announce the results.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   528, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 1194, an 

 8   act to amend the Correction Law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12   act shall take effect immediately.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17   Calendar Number 528, those recorded in the 

18   negative are Senators Duane, Montgomery, Parker 

19   and Perkins.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   532, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 2481, an 

24   act to amend the Correction Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

                                                               4480

 1   last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect on the first of November.  

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

 8   Rivera to explain your vote.

 9                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.  

11                First, I will correct myself.  It 

12   was of course Senator Young that I was speaking 

13   to, and not Senator Little.  My apologies.  

14                Regarding this bill, it is also one 

15   that came through the committee that I am the 

16   ranker on.  I will be voting in the negative on 

17   this bill.  

18                The purpose of the bill is to try 

19   to -- relating to the custody and visitation of 

20   sex offenders.  The observation that I made 

21   during the committee meeting is that it does not 

22   make a distinction between different levels of 

23   sex offenders.  Certainly a Level 3 sex offender 

24   who is a predator, he or she should absolutely be 

25   kept from children.  

                                                               4481

 1                In this case, it includes excludes 

 2   Level 1 sex offenders, which might be for much -- 

 3   minor offenses earlier in life, and it might 

 4   actually cause certain people to not be able to 

 5   have visitation or custodial rights of their 

 6   children.  

 7                So I am in opposition to this bill.  

 8   I'll be voting in the negative.  

 9                Thank you, Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

11   Rivera will be recorded in the negative.

12                Senator Krueger.

13                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

14                I appreciate Senator Rivera's 

15   comments.  And I also will be voting no, because 

16   I think it is very important for us to understand 

17   as a Legislature that there is a very real 

18   difference between a Level 1 sex offender and a 

19   Level 3 sex offender.  A Level 1 sex offender 

20   could technically be someone who pinched my 

21   derriere in a New York City bus.  

22                And I don't know that I actually 

23   think someone who falls into that situation, or a 

24   statutory rape situation of a 17-year-old and a 

25   16-year-old, should in fact by law then be 

                                                               4482

 1   forbidden from visitation or custodial care of 

 2   their own child at some much later date in life.

 3                So I respect the intention of the 

 4   sponsor, but I think that this bill should have 

 5   been more finely crafted to be the higher-level 

 6   sex offenders and not to have Level 1.  So I'll 

 7   also be voting no.  

 8                Thank you, Mr. President.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

10   you, Senator.  Senator Krueger will be recorded 

11   in the negative.  

12                Announce the results.

13                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14   Calendar Number 532, those recorded in the 

15   negative are Senators Adams, Duane, 

16   Hassell-Thompson, L. Krueger, Little, Montgomery, 

17   Parker, Perkins, and Rivera.

18                Ayes, 53.  Nays, 9.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

20   is passed.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   533, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 3747, an 

23   act to amend the Correction Law.  

24                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

                                                               4483

 1   is laid aside.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   550, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 4   Assembly Paulin, Assembly Print 141B, an act to 

 5   amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9   act shall take effect immediately.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   586, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 3497A, an 

18   act to amend the General Business Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

22   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4484

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   594, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 6   Assembly Gottfried, Assembly Print 3334, an act 

 7   to amend the Education Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

13   roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   604, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 4272A, 

20   an act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

24   act shall take effect on the 120th day.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

                                                               4485

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   625, by Senator Young, Senate Print 2446, an act 

 8   to amend the General Municipal Law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 11.  This 

12   act shall take effect immediately.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

17   1.  Senator Ball recorded in the negative.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   638, by Senator Carlucci, Senate Print 4331, an 

22   act in relation to alienation of certain 

23   parklands.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   We have 

25   a home-rule message at the desk.

                                                               4486

 1                Read the last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   653, by Senator Stavisky, Senate Print 899, an 

12   act to amend the Abandoned Property Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

16   act shall take effect on the 60th day.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21   Calendar Number 653, Senator Ball recorded in the 

22   negative.  Ayes, 61.  Nays, 1.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4487

 1   672, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 4253B, an 

 2   act to authorize the County of Niagara.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   There is 

 4   a home-rule message at the desk.

 5                Read the last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   674, by Senator O'Mara, Senate Print 4267B, an 

16   act to authorize the County of Schuyler.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   There is 

18   a home-rule message at the desk.

19                Read the last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

                                                               4488

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   725, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 5226, an act 

 5   to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 58.  This 

 9   act shall take effect on the first of November.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   748, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 5343, an 

18   act to amend the Education Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4489

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   802, by Senator Golden --

 6                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 8   is laid aside.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   803, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 2945, an act 

11   to amend the Penal Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

15   act shall take effect on the first of November.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   813, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 3240, an 

24   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

                                                               4490

 1   last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   823, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 5208, an 

12   act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.  

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21   Calendar Number 823:  Ayes, 61.  Nays, 1.  

22   Senator Espaillat recorded in the negative.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4491

 1   826, by Senator O'Mara, Senate Print 3920, an act 

 2   to amend the Education Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Those recorded in 

11   the negative on Calendar Number 826 are Senators 

12   Gianaris and Stavisky.  Also Senator Rivera.  

13                Ayes, 59.  Nays, 3.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   834, by Senator Carlucci, Senate Print 4300, an 

18   act to amend the Tax Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4492

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.  

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   838, by Senator Young, Senate Print 5059, an act 

 6   to amend the Tax Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   853, by Senator Nozzolio --

19                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

21   is laid aside.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   858, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

24   Assembly Colton, Assembly Print 2565, an act to 

25   amend the Correction Law.

                                                               4493

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 2   last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4   act shall take effect immediately.  

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 6   roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9   Calendar Number 858, those recorded in the 

10   negative are Senators Montgomery, Parker and 

11   Perkins.  Ayes, 59.  Nays, 3.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   874, by Senator O'Mara, Senate Print 4857A, an 

16   act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20   act shall take effect immediately.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

                                                               4494

 1   is passed.

 2                Senator Libous.

 3                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

 4   could we go back to Calendar Number 725?  I 

 5   believe that bill was passed.  And can we call 

 6   the roll on reconsideration.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

 8   Secretary will recall Bill 725.  

 9                The Secretary will read.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   725, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 5226, an act 

12   to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Please call the 

14   roll on reconsideration.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

16   roll on reconsideration.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   The bill is before 

20   the house.  Lay it aside.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

22   is laid aside.  

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   915, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 4530A, an 

25   act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules.

                                                               4495

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 2   is high.  The bill is laid aside for the day.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   925, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 5494A, an 

 5   act to amend the Social Services Law.

 6                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

 7   the day.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 9   is laid aside for the day.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   942, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

12   Assembly Galef, Assembly Print 5749, an act to 

13   amend the Tax Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22   Calendar Number 942, those recorded in the 

23   negative are Senators Espaillat, Gianaris, 

24   L. Krueger, Parker, Peralta, Perkins, Rivera, 

25   Squadron, and Stavisky.  

                                                               4496

 1                Ayes, 53.  Nays, 9.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   961, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 6   Assembly Farrell, Assembly Print 7239, an act to 

 7   amend the Tax Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

13   roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   964, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

20   Assembly Sweeney Assembly, Print Number 5663, an 

21   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

23   last section.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25   act shall take effect April 1, 2012.

                                                               4497

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 2   roll.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   993, by Senator O'Mara, Senate Print 5137, an act 

 9   to amend the General Municipal Law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

11   last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

13   act shall take effect immediately.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

15   roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1006, by Senator Young, Senate Print 4720, an act 

22   to amend the Parks, Recreation and Historic 

23   Preservation Law.  

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

25   last section.

                                                               4498

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   1015, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 5370, 

11   an act to amend the Not-For-Profit Corporation 

12   Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

22   is passed.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   1026, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 5562, an 

25   act to amend the Insurance Law.

                                                               4499

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 2   last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4   act shall take effect immediately.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 6   roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

10   is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1030, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

13   Assembly DenDekker, Assembly Print 6767A, an act 

14   to amend the Election Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4500

 1   1037, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 4213, an 

 2   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

12   is passed.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1040, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

15   Assembly Sweeney, Assembly Print 7638A, an act to 

16   amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20   act shall take effect on the 60th day.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

25   DeFrancisco to explain his vote.

                                                               4501

 1                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes.  I'm 

 2   going to vote no.  

 3                It's certainly a wonderful thing 

 4   that these people that provide information about 

 5   lawn application, as to what's in the substances 

 6   that are being put on the lawn, it's a good thing 

 7   if people really want to know.  And if they want 

 8   to know and they're entering into a contract with 

 9   a lawn applicator, they can ask for what is in 

10   the stuff being put on the lawn.  

11                But to require a business to provide 

12   information that 99 percent of the people could 

13   care less about is a burden on business that I 

14   think is unnecessary.  And as a result, I'm going 

15   to vote no.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

17   DeFrancisco will be recorded in the negative.

18                Announce the results.

19                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20   Calendar Number 1040, those recorded in the 

21   negative are Senators DeFrancisco, Farley, Lanza, 

22   Little, Robach, and Seward.  Ayes, 56.  Nays, 6.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4502

 1   1041, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 4604A, an 

 2   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

 3                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay the bill aside 

 4   for the day.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Lay it 

 6   aside for the day.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   1044, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 9   Assembly Magee, Assembly Print 7637, an act to 

10   amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

12   last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14   act shall take effect immediately.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

16   roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19   Calendar Number 1044, those recorded in the 

20   negative are Senators Duane, Perkins, and 

21   Serrano.  Also Senator Espaillat.  

22                Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4503

 1   1045, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 2   Assembly Hevesi, Assembly Print 295A, an act to 

 3   amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   1046, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print --

16                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

18   is laid aside.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1047, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

21   Assembly Gunther, Assembly Print Number 7943, an 

22   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

                                                               4504

 1   act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

 2   same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2011.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7   Calendar 1047, those recorded in the negative are 

 8   Senators Espaillat, L. Krueger, Perkins, and 

 9   Serrano.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1050, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

14   Assembly Paulin, Assembly Print 7633, an act to 

15   amend the Social Services Law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19   act shall take effect immediately.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

21   roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

25   is passed.

                                                               4505

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1051, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 3   Assembly Scarborough, Assembly Print 5458A, an 

 4   act to amend the Social Services Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1056, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

17   Assembly Sweeney, Assembly Print 7919, an act to 

18   amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4506

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   On page 47, Senator 

 5   Griffo moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 6   Rules, Assembly Bill Number 8156 and substitute 

 7   it for the identical Senate Bill Number 4612A, 

 8   Third Reading Calendar 1059.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

10   Substitution ordered.

11                The Secretary will read.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1059, by Member of the Assembly Lancman, Assembly 

14   Print 8156, an act to amend the Banking Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4507

 1   1061, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 2   Assembly Castro, Assembly Print 8102, an act to 

 3   amend Chapter 223 of the Laws of 1996.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   1062, by Senator Robach, Senate Print 702A, an 

16   act to amend the Penal Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20   act shall take effect immediately.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25   Calendar 1062, those recorded in the negative are 

                                                               4508

 1   Senators Duane, Montgomery and Parker.  

 2                Ayes, 59.  Nays, 3.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   1069, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 4400, an 

 7   act to amend the Penal Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

11   act shall take effect on the first of November.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

13   roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   Those recorded in 

16   the negative on Calendar Number 1069 are Senators 

17   Duane, Montgomery and Parker.  

18                Ayes, 59.  Nays, 3.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

20   is passed.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   1085, by Senator Martins, Senate Print 5394, an 

23   act to legalize, validate, ratify and confirm.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

25   last section.

                                                               4509

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.  

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   1086, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print --

11                SENATOR LARKIN:   Lay it aside for 

12   the day.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

14   is laid aside for the day.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1087, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 5513, an 

17   act to authorize the Commissioner of Education.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

                                                               4510

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1089, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 5   Assembly Lancman, Assembly Print 478A, an act to 

 6   amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15   Calendar 1089, those recorded in the negative are 

16   Senators Dilan, Parker and Rivera.  

17                Ayes, 59.  Nays, 3.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1090, by Senator Martins, Senate Print 1209A, an 

22   act to amend the Executive Law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

                                                               4511

 1   act shall take effect on the 120th day.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6   Calendar Number 1090, those recorded in the 

 7   negative are Senators Avella, Dilan, Duane, 

 8   Espaillat, Hassell-Thompson, L. Krueger, 

 9   Montgomery, Parker, Perkins, Rivera, Squadron, 

10   and Stewart-Cousins.  

11                Ayes, 50.  Nays, 12.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   1096, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

16   Assembly Nolan, Assembly Print 5600A, an act to 

17   amend Part C of Chapter 57 of the Laws of 2004.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.  

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

                                                               4512

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1101, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 3945A, 

 5   an act to amend the Tax Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9   act shall take effect immediately.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   1104, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 4255, an 

18   act to amend the Public Health Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4513

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   1105, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 6   Assembly Titus, Assembly Print 6331, an act to 

 7   amend Chapter 436 of the Laws of 1997.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

13   roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1106, by Senator Ball --

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

21   the day.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

23   is laid aside for the day.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1110, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 5390, an 

                                                               4514

 1   act to provide for the repayment by the 

 2   Schenectady City School District.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

12   is passed.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1111, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 5560, an 

15   act to amend the Executive Law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

20   is laid aside.

21                THE SECRETARY:   On page 53, Senator 

22   Fuschillo moves to discharge, from the Committee 

23   on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 8030 and 

24   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

25   Number 3807A, Third Reading Calendar 1112.

                                                               4515

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

 2   Substitution ordered.  

 3                The Secretary will read.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   1112, by Member of the Assembly Paulin, Assembly 

 6   Print 8030, an act to amend Chapter 563 of the 

 7   Laws of 2008.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.  

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

13   roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1114, by Senator Young --

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

21   the day.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

23   is laid aside for the day.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1121, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 5320, an 

                                                               4516

 1   act to amend the Tax Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1123, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 5547, an 

14   act to amend the Tax Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

                                                               4517

 1   1125, substituted earlier today by Member of the 

 2   Assembly Kolb, Assembly Print 7237, an act to 

 3   amend the Correction Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   1127, by Senator Young, Senate Print 5565, an act 

16   to amend the Executive Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 16.  This 

20   act shall take effect on the first of January.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25   Calendar Number 1127, those recorded in the 

                                                               4518

 1   negative are Senators Duane, Hassell-Thompson, 

 2   Montgomery, and Perkins.

 3                Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1142, by Senator DeFrancisco --

 8                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

10   is laid aside.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1144, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 3894, an 

13   act to amend the Military Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1167, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate 

                                                               4519

 1   Print 5527, an act to amend the Tax Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 16.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

10   Krueger to explain her vote.

11                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you very 

12   much.  

13                As the record shows, I've been 

14   voting no on tax bills that have no Senate 

15   sponsor.  But this is a tax bill that is needed 

16   by the City of New York, and so I will be voting 

17   yes and would like to note that I would have been 

18   happy to have my name on as the sponsor of a tax 

19   bill for the City of New York.  

20                And so I wish there was a sponsor.  

21   I could have been one.  But I won't vote no, 

22   because my city needs this bill.

23                I vote yes.  Thank you.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

25   Krueger will be recorded in the affirmative.

                                                               4520

 1                Senator Squadron.

 2                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you very 

 3   much.  

 4                And I am happy today, for my own 

 5   locality, to vote for this bill.  I do wish it 

 6   were sponsored by Senator Krueger.  

 7                Thank you, Mr. President.

 8                (Laughter.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

10   Squadron will also be recorded in the 

11   affirmative.

12                Senator Parker.

13                SENATOR PARKER:   Mr. President, I 

14   rise to share my concern about bills coming to 

15   the floor with no one's name on it.  

16                But I'm voting no on this bill 

17   because we talk a lot about not raising taxes and 

18   here we are again raising taxes.  If we're going 

19   to tax people, instead of extending a sales tax 

20   that is regressive and hurts working-class 

21   people, we should have done the -- you know, not 

22   given the millionaires and billionaires a tax 

23   break like we did earlier today.  

24                So I vote nay.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

                                                               4521

 1   Parker will be recorded in the negative.

 2                Announce the results.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4   Calendar Number 1167, those recorded in the 

 5   negative are Senators Ball, Lanza and Parker.  

 6   Also Senator Robach.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   1192, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 4655, an 

11   act to amend the Volunteer Firefighters Benefit 

12   Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

22   is passed.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   1200, by Senator Young, Senate Print 755, an act 

25   to amend the Private Housing Finance Law.

                                                               4522

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 2   last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4   act shall take effect immediately.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 6   roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

10   is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1202, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 958C, an 

13   act to amend the Parks, Recreation and Historic 

14   Preservation Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

23   1.  Senator Oppenheimer recorded in the negative.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

25   is passed.

                                                               4523

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1206, by Senator Libous --

 3                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 5   is laid aside.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1207, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 2544 --

 8                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

10   is laid aside.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1209, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 2737, an 

13   act to amend the Penal Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect on the first of November.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22   Calendar 1209, those recorded in the negative are 

23   Senators Dilan, Duane and Montgomery.  Also 

24   Senator Perkins.  Also Senator L. Krueger.  

25                Ayes, 57.  Nays, 5.

                                                               4524

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1214, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 3057, an 

 5   act to amend the Insurance Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9   act shall take effect January 1, 2012.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

14   2.  Senators Avella and Dilan recorded in the 

15   negative.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1216, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 3201, an 

20   act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

24   the day.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

                                                               4525

 1   is laid aside for the day.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1217, by Member of the Assembly Hoyt, Assembly 

 4   Print Number 3320, an act to amend the Executive 

 5   Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9   act shall take effect immediately.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17   Calendar Number 1217:  Ayes, 61.  Nays, 1.  

18   Senator Grisanti recorded in the negative.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

20   is passed.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   1218, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print --

23                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

25   is laid aside.

                                                               4526

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1224, by Senator Young, Senate Print 4143A, an 

 3   act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 20.  This 

 7   act shall take effect on the 90th day.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

12   1.  Senator Diaz recorded in the negative.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1225, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 4223 --

17                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   There is 

19   a home-rule message at the desk.  

20                The bill is laid aside.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   1230, by Senator Robach, Senate Print 4435A, an 

23   act to amend the General Business Law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

25   last section.

                                                               4527

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2   act shall take effect on the 90th day.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   1233, by Senator Robach, Senate Print 4560, an 

11   act to amend the Correction Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

15   act shall take effect immediately.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

20   Rivera to explain his vote.

21                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.

23                I will be voting in the affirmative 

24   on this bill.  And I appreciate Senator Robach 

25   bringing this bill to the floor.  

                                                               4528

 1                And I want to underline the fact 

 2   that this is precisely the type of change that 

 3   can happen in certain bills that I've voted in 

 4   the negative in the past.  Once you've made it 

 5   specific to the particular level of sex offender 

 6   that a law should apply to, then I certainly can 

 7   be supportive.  

 8                In this case, keeping this type of 

 9   predator from living in college housing is 

10   something that I am supportive of.  But this is 

11   exactly the type of changes that I believe we 

12   need to make to certain bills to make them more 

13   specific so that I can be supportive in the 

14   future.

15                So thank you, Senator Robach.  I 

16   will be voting in the affirmative.  

17                Thank you, Mr. President.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

19   you, Senator Rivera.  Senator Rivera will be 

20   recorded in the affirmative.

21                Announce the results.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

23   1.  Senator Parker recorded in the negative.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

25   is passed.

                                                               4529

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1234, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 4637, an act 

 3   to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

12   Carlucci to explain his vote.

13                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.

15                This is an important step in the 

16   right direction.  I believe that this forensic 

17   audit will be a tool that I'm hopeful that the 

18   MTA leaders will welcome, to use to make sure 

19   that the money spent at the MTA is money well 

20   spent, to make sure that our transportation 

21   system is the most efficient and most 

22   cost-effective, and ultimately to lead to the 

23   repealing of the MTA payroll tax.  

24                So I'm hopeful that the MTA will see 

25   this as welcome and will take it into effect and 

                                                               4530

 1   make sure we're going in a cost-effective way for 

 2   the MTA.  

 3                Mr. President, I'll be voting in the 

 4   affirmative.  Thank you.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

 6   Carlucci will be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                Senator Fuschillo.

 8                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:   Just briefly, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                Let me thank my colleague Senator 

11   Lanza for his leadership on this issue.  When we 

12   held budget hearings, Senator Lanza brought this 

13   up and stressed how important this would be to 

14   the MTA but also to the residents throughout the 

15   metropolitan area.

16                We need to know exactly how the 

17   money is being spent, how much money is there.  

18   We've heard estimates of multi-billion-dollar 

19   structural deficits based on the hearings that 

20   Senator Marcellino had done through his 

21   committee.  And a forensic audit, an independent 

22   audit is critically important to the members of 

23   the Legislature here as well as the general 

24   public.  

25                I'll be voting in the affirmative.

                                                               4531

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

 2   Fuschillo will be recorded in the affirmative.  

 3   Thank you, Senator.

 4                Senator Dilan.

 5                SENATOR DILAN:   Yes, I just rise to 

 6   indicate that I will be voting in the negative 

 7   with respect to this forensic audit.  

 8                I believe that when we first 

 9   indicated that we requested a forensic audit, 

10   there was a question as to who was going to pay 

11   for it.  And in view of all the deficits that the 

12   MTA has at this time, I really believe that they 

13   cannot afford to pay for it.  And I believe that 

14   we indicated that we would pay for that forensic 

15   audit.  So therefore I'm voting no.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

17   you, Senator Dilan.  Senator Dilan will be 

18   recorded in the negative.

19                Announce the results.

20                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21   Calendar Number 1234, those recorded in the 

22   negative are Senators Dilan, Perkins and 

23   Squadron.  Ayes, 59.  Nays, 3.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

25   is passed.

                                                               4532

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1238, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 4844, an 

 3   act to direct the New York State Office of Parks, 

 4   Recreation and Historic Preservation.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

13   Maziarz to explain his vote.

14                SENATOR MAZIARZ:   Just very briefly 

15   to explain my vote, Mr. President.  

16                Nik Wallenda is a member of the 

17   famous Flying Wallenda family, been doing this 

18   for a long -- all his life, actually, three 

19   generations.  This used to be done in Niagara 

20   Falls across the Niagara Gorge in the 1800s all 

21   the time.  

22                Nik Wallenda has very generously, 

23   Mr. President, offered to carry a member of the 

24   New York State Senate across the tightrope wire 

25   with him.

                                                               4533

 1                (Laughter.)

 2                SENATOR MAZIARZ:   And in a spirit 

 3   of bipartisanship, I have volunteered Senator 

 4   Marty Dilan to do that.  

 5                (Laughter.)

 6                SENATOR MAZIARZ:  So thank you, 

 7   Mr. President.  I vote in the affirmative.  Thank 

 8   you.  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

10   Maziarz will be recorded in the affirmative.

11                We will hold off on asking Senator 

12   Dilan as to whether or not he'll accept.

13                (Laughter.)

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Announce 

15   the results.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1239, by Senator Saland, Senate Print 4851A --

21                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

23   is laid aside.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1240, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 4899, an 

                                                               4534

 1   act to amend Local Finance Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   We have 

 3   a home-rule message at the desk.

 4                Please read the last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

12   is passed.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1242, by Senator Young --

15                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

17   is laid aside.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1244, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 5161, an 

20   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

                                                               4535

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1245, by Senator Young, Senate Print 5184B, an 

 8   act to amend the Education Law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

12   act shall take effect immediately.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1250, by Senator Robach, Senate Print 5323B, an 

21   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

22                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

23   the day.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

25   is laid aside for the day.

                                                               4536

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1251, by Member of the Assembly Calhoun, Assembly  

 3   Print 2877, an act to amend the Criminal 

 4   Procedure Law. 

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13   Calendar Number 1251, those recorded in the 

14   negative are Senators Duane, L. Krueger, 

15   Montgomery and Perkins.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1262, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 5601, an 

20   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

                                                               4537

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1265, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 5631 --

 8                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

10   is laid aside.

11                Senator Libous, that concludes our 

12   reading of the noncontroversial calendar.

13                Senator Libous.

14                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

15   we go back to the reports of standing 

16   committees.  I believe there's a report of the 

17   Rules Committee at the desk.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Reports 

19   of standing committees.

20                The Secretary will read.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Skelos, 

22   from the Senate Committee on Rules, reports the 

23   following bills direct to third reading:  

24                Senate Print 1361, by Senator Dilan, 

25   an act to amend the General Municipal Law; 

                                                               4538

 1                1521, by Senator Klein, an act to 

 2   amend the Correction Law;

 3                1748, by Senator Golden, an act to 

 4   amend the Public Health Law; 

 5                1914, by Senator Serrano, an act to 

 6   amend the Economic Development Law; 

 7                2048, by Senator C. Kruger, an act 

 8   to amend the Correction Law;

 9                2438, by Senator Alesi, an act to 

10   amend the Tax Law; 

11                2878, by Senator Grisanti, an act to 

12   amend the Tax Law;

13                3605, by Senator Carlucci, an act to 

14   create the Orangetown Public Library; 

15                3686, by Senator Adams, an act to 

16   amend the Penal Law;

17                4228, by Senator Alesi, an act to 

18   amend the Tax Law;

19                4241, by Senator Larkin, an act to 

20   amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law; 

21                4290A, by Senator Carlucci, an act 

22   to authorize the Town of Ramapo; 

23                4665, by Senator Nozzolio, an act to 

24   amend the Public Health Law; 

25                4816, by Senator Carlucci, an act to 

                                                               4539

 1   amend the State Administrative Procedure Law; 

 2                4892, by Senator Lanza, an act to 

 3   amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law;

 4                4927, by Senator Griffo, an act to 

 5   amend the Banking Law; 

 6                5271, by Senator Ball, an act to 

 7   amend the Executive Law;

 8                5289, by Senator Lanza, an act to 

 9   amend the Tax Law;

10                5295, by Senator Ball, an act to 

11   amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law; 

12                5349, by Senator Maziarz, an act to 

13   amend the Tax Law;

14                5362, by Senator Carlucci, an act to 

15   amend the Local Finance Law;

16                5532A, by Senator Oppenheimer, an 

17   act to amend the Town Law; 

18                5596A, by Senator Zeldin, an act to 

19   amend the Tax Law;

20                5607, by Senator Kennedy, an act to 

21   legalize, validate, ratify and confirm; 

22                5628, by Senator Martins, an act to 

23   authorize the Village of Mineola;

24                5638, by Senator Carlucci, an act to 

25   amend the Village Law;

                                                               4540

 1                 And Senate 5709, by Senator Skelos, 

 2   an act to amend Chapter 576 of the Laws of 1974.  

 3                All bills ordered direct to third 

 4   reading.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

 6   Libous.

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I move to accept 

 8   the report of the Rules Committee.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Thank 

10   you, Senator.  All in favor signify by saying 

11   aye.

12                (Response of "Aye.")

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Opposed, 

14   nay

15                (No response.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

17   report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

18                Thank you, Senator.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

20   this time I would like to go to motions and 

21   resolutions.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Motions 

23   and resolutions.  

24                Senator Libous.

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

                                                               4541

 1   Senator Fuschillo, on page 42 I offer the 

 2   following amendments to Calendar Number 999, 

 3   Senate Print 5545, and ask that said bill retain 

 4   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

 6   amendments are accepted, and the bill will retain 

 7   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 8                Senator Libous.

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:  On behalf of 

10   Senator Grisanti, I wish to call up Senate Print 

11   3134, recalled from the Assembly, which is now at 

12   the desk.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

14   Secretary will read.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   267, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 3134, an 

17   act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.  

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

19   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

20   bill was passed.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

22   roll on reconsideration.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

                                                               4542

 1   offer up the following amendments.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The 

 3   amendments are received.

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

 5   behalf of Senator Larkin, I'd like to place a 

 6   sponsor star on Calendar Number 1086.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   So 

 8   ordered.

 9                Senator Libous.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

11   this time I would like to go to Supplemental 

12   Calendar 53A and do the noncontroversial reading 

13   of that calendar.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   We're 

15   going to the noncontroversial reading of Calendar 

16   Number 53A.  

17                The Secretary will read.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1246, by Senator Dilan, Senate Print 1361, an act 

20   to amend the General Municipal Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

                                                               4543

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Klein moves 

 7   to discharge, from the Committee On Crime 

 8   Victims, Crime and Correction, Assembly Bill 

 9   Number 5661 and substitute it for the identical 

10   Senate Bill Number 1521, Third Reading Calendar 

11   1269.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

13   Substitution ordered.  

14                The Secretary will read.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1269, by Member of the Assembly Weisenberg, 

17   Assembly Print 5661, an act to amend the 

18   Correction Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4544

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays 1.  

 2   Senator Duane recorded in the negative.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   1270, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 1748, an 

 7   act --

 8                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

10   is laid aside.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1271, by Senator Serrano, Senate Print 1914, an 

13   act to amend the Economic Development Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1272, by Senator C. Kruger, Senate Print 2048, an 

                                                               4545

 1   act to amend the Correction Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10   Calendar 1272, those recorded in the negative are 

11   Senators Duane, Hassell-Thompson, Montgomery and 

12   Perkins.  Ayes, 58.  Nays, 4.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1273, by Senator Alesi, Senate Print 2438, an act 

17   to amend the Tax Law.

18                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

20   is laid aside.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   1274, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 2878, an 

23   act to amend the Tax Law. 

24                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

                                                               4546

 1   is laid aside.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Carlucci 

 3   moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 4   Assembly Bill Number 587 and substitute it for 

 5   the identical Senate Bill Number 3605, Third 

 6   Reading Calendar 1275.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:  

 8   Substitution ordered.  

 9                The Secretary will read.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   1275, by Member of the Assembly Jaffee, Assembly 

12   Print 587, an act to create the Orangetown Public 

13   Library District.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1276, by Senator Adams, Senate Print 3686, an act 

                                                               4547

 1   to amend the Penal Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5   act shall take effect on the first of November.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1277, by Senator Alesi, Senate Print 4228, an 

14   act --

15                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

17   is laid aside.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1278, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 4241, an 

20   act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 10.  This 

24   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

                                                               4548

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

 4   1.  Senator Diaz recorded in the negative.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Carlucci 

 8   moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 9   Assembly Bill Number 2702A and substitute it for 

10   the identical Senate Bill Number 4290A, Third 

11   Reading Calendar 1279.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

13   Substitution ordered.

14                The Secretary will read.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1279, by Member of the Assembly Rabbitt, Assembly 

17   Print 2702A, an act to authorize the Town of 

18   Ramapo.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)

                                                               4549

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

 2   2.  Senators Bonacic and Larkin recorded in the 

 3   negative.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1281, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 4665, an 

 8   act to amend the Public Health Law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12   act shall take effect immediately.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

17   1.  Senator Avella recorded in the negative.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Carlucci 

21   moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

22   Assembly Bill Number 7445 and substitute it for 

23   the identical Senate Bill Number 4816, Third 

24   Reading Calendar 1282.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

                                                               4550

 1   Substitution ordered.  

 2                The Secretary will read.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1282, by Member of the Assembly Lavine, Assembly 

 5   Print 7445, an act to amend the State 

 6   Administrative Procedure Act.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect on the first of October.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   1283, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 4892, an act 

19   to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

21   last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

23   act shall take effect on the 90th day.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

25   roll.

                                                               4551

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   1284, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 4927, an 

 7   act to amend the Banking Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

13   roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1285, by Senator Ball, Senate Print 5271, an act 

20   to amend the Executive Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

                                                               4552

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1286, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 5289, an act 

 8   to amend the Tax Law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12   act shall take effect immediately.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1287, by Senator Ball, Senate Print 5295, an act 

21   to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

23   last section.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25   act shall take effect immediately.

                                                               4553

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 2   roll.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

 5   2.  Senators Diaz and Duane recorded in the 

 6   negative.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Maziarz 

10   moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

11   Assembly Bill Number 7793 and substitute it for 

12   the identical Senate Bill Number 5349, Third 

13   Reading Calendar 1288.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:    

15   Substitution ordered.

16                The Secretary will read.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   1288, by Member of the Assembly Hevesi, Assembly 

19   Print 7793, an act to amend the Tax Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

21   last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23   act shall take effect immediately.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

25   roll.

                                                               4554

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   1289, by Senator Carlucci, Senate Print 5362, an 

 7   act to amend the Local Finance Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   There is 

 9   a home-rule message at the desk.

10                The Secretary will read the last 

11   section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13   act shall take effect immediately.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

15   roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1290, by Senator Oppenheimer, Senate Print --

22                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside for 

23   the day.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   The bill 

25   is laid aside for the day.

                                                               4555

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1291, by Senator Zeldin, Senate Print 5596A, an 

 3   act to amend the Tax Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 13.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

12   Squadron to explain his vote.

13                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  To explain my vote.

15                I think we all realize the extent to 

16   which the MTA payroll tax has been a challenge in 

17   many communities.  We are committed to doing 

18   something about that.  

19                Unfortunately, a bill that appears 

20   to do something about that but has no chance of 

21   becoming law and doesn't do anything to ensure 

22   that the MTA continues to serve the entire 

23   region, all of the counties in the MTA region, is 

24   not a real solution for the folks who need relief 

25   here.  And that's why I'm going to be voting no.  

                                                               4556

 1                I am eager to work seriously on a 

 2   real solution to give folks relief, but a simple 

 3   press release isn't going to do it.  I vote no, 

 4   Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

 6   Squadron to be recorded in the negative.

 7                Senator Klein.

 8                SENATOR KLEIN:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                I reluctantly vote no on this 

11   legislation, because I think the first step on 

12   the MTA payroll tax has to be what Senator Lanza 

13   just passed a little earlier, which is a forensic 

14   audit.  I think the best way we can take a good 

15   hard look at whether or not we need to partially 

16   repeal or repeal the MTA payroll tax is to first 

17   do a forensic audit.  

18                It's interesting, because the 

19   history with the MTA hasn't been a good one.  

20   They came to us, as everyone knows, two years 

21   ago, hat in hand, saying that they needed the 

22   money, otherwise they were going to have to cut 

23   service, raise fares.  Well, here we are two 

24   years later, they're still probably going to 

25   raise fares, and they actually did cut service in 

                                                               4557

 1   many areas.

 2                 So I think an important first step 

 3   is to make sure we get that forensic audit, which 

 4   was part of the original MTA payroll tax, but 

 5   then-Governor Paterson, in his infinite wisdom, 

 6   decided to defund the forensic audit.  

 7                So I vote no, and hopefully we can 

 8   have that forensic audit and look to really 

 9   either eliminate or reduce the MTA payroll tax.  

10   Thank you, Mr. President.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT MARTINS:   Senator 

12   Klein will be recorded in the negative.  Thank 

13   you, Senator.  

14                And can we please have order in the 

15   house {gaveling}.

16                Senator Fuschillo.

17                SENATOR FUSCHILLO:   Thank you very 

18   much, Mr. President.  

19                I rise to compliment my colleague 

20   Senator Zeldin for his leadership on this issue.  

21   When I took over as chairman of the Senate 

22   Transportation Committee, Senator Zeldin on a 

23   daily basis has never missed a moment to talk to 

24   me about the MTA payroll tax and the negative 

25   effect it is having on businesses -- small 

                                                               4558

 1   businesses, large businesses, nonprofits, 

 2   hospitals, schools -- and anybody that has to pay 

 3   the payroll tax throughout Long Island and the 

 4   metropolitan area of the 12 counties.  

 5                This is the first step to repeal 

 6   something that was wrongly done by this body in a 

 7   bipartisan fashion.  We stressed then, 

 8   Mr. President, that the MTA payroll tax was a 

 9   job-killing tax.  And in a state that is not 

10   business-friendly, in a state that is number one 

11   in interstate migration, where more people move 

12   out of our state than any other state in the 

13   nation, the reason is because of taxes, taxes, 

14   and taxes.

15                I'll be voting in the affirmative to 

16   do away with this tax.  Senator Zeldin has 

17   revenue sources in there.  Because I know it's 

18   always been a concern that if we just took the 

19   money away, what would happen to the MTA.  But 

20   the actions taken today by Senator Lanza, and now 

21   followed up by Senator Zeldin, will get New York 

22   State back on the right track.  I'll be voting in 

23   the affirmative.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

25   Fuschillo to be recorded in the affirmative.  

                                                               4559

 1                Senator Savino to explain her vote.

 2                SENATOR SAVINO:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.  I wasn't actually going to do 

 4   that, but I think it's probably a good idea that 

 5   I do.

 6                I tend to agree with Senator 

 7   Klein -- more often than not, but certainly on 

 8   this issue -- that the bill that we passed 

 9   previously, Senator Lanza's bill with respect to 

10   a forensic audit of the MTA, is critically 

11   important and the first step before we talk about 

12   any revenue replacement.

13                You know, I represent an area of the 

14   City of New York that arguably is the most 

15   overtaxed by the MTA and the least served by the 

16   MTA.  And Senator Lanza is my colleague over 

17   there; the two of us represent the Island of 

18   Staten.  

19                Now, I want you to think about 

20   this.  The people of Staten Island have no 

21   subway.  They have a poor bus system that is 

22   provided by the MTA.  Nobody in Staten Island 

23   will ever lose votes for beating up on the MTA.  

24   In fact, it's something we all love to do, and we 

25   do it well.  And with good reason.

                                                               4560

 1                Six percent of the total toll 

 2   revenue collected in the United States is 

 3   collected at the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge.  The 

 4   people of Staten Island have no free access on or 

 5   off the island.  And if anyone tells me that the 

 6   ferry is free, well, they are wrong.  It's only 

 7   free if you can walk to it and walk from it.  If 

 8   you have to use a bus to get there, it's all part 

 9   of the ride.

10                So Staten Islanders are already 

11   disproportionately taxed.  But here's what I 

12   know.  Of that 6 percent total toll revenue 

13   collected in the United States that comes at the 

14   Verrazano Bridge, 70 percent of the money that's 

15   collected at the Verrazano Bridge goes to 

16   subsidize Metro-North and the Long Island 

17   Railroad and Suburban Rail and Transit.  

18                So until we get a forensic audit and 

19   we know how the money is being spent, I'm not 

20   going to risk the idea that the people that I 

21   represent, who are already underserved and 

22   overtaxed, are going to have to make up that lost 

23   revenue.  So I'm going to vote no on this bill, 

24   and I'm going to strongly support Senator Lanza's 

25   bill and hope we get that forensic audit.  

                                                               4561

 1                Thank you, Mr. President.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 3   Savino to be recorded in the negative.

 4                Senator Espaillat to explain your 

 5   vote.  

 6                I'll remind members we're on a 

 7   two-minute explanation.

 8                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                Several million people come in on a 

11   daily basis to the City of New York to work.  In 

12   fact, the MTA subway system, Metro-North and all 

13   the other systems of transportation attached to 

14   the MTA are the economic engine, the transmission 

15   of the economy of New York City.  And New York 

16   State, for that matter.

17                You know, several years back we 

18   eliminated the commuter tax.  And now we're 

19   looking to eliminate a very important source of 

20   revenue that continues to be critical in the 

21   maintenance and the upkeeping of the public 

22   transportation system in New York City.  

23                Earlier today we accepted the 

24   nomination of some of the members of the board of 

25   directors of the MTA.  And I dare to say that 

                                                               4562

 1   their job is going to be harder if we continue to 

 2   take money away from them.

 3                This subway system in New York City 

 4   requires investment, capital investment.  It 

 5   requires upkeep and investment in order for 

 6   people to get to work and to get to work on 

 7   time.  We cannot do that by cutting revenue 

 8   sources.  The MTA provides services to 

 9   12 counties, not just the five boroughs of the 

10   City of New York, but to 12 counties in the 

11   region.

12                And we should continue to fund the 

13   MTA.  We should have a forensic audit, but we 

14   cannot cut back on the revenue.  If we do so, we 

15   will once again face the difficult predicament of 

16   perhaps having to cut or eliminate the MetroCard 

17   for young people to go school.  We will have to 

18   deal with the dilapidated condition of subway 

19   stations or buses that are constantly breaking 

20   down and disallowing people to get to work on 

21   time.

22                Yes, this may be a job-killer if we 

23   eliminate this tax as we take a direct hit on the 

24   economy of New York City by crippling its 

25   transportation system.  I will be voting in the 

                                                               4563

 1   negative.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

 3   you, Senator Espaillat.  You will be recorded in 

 4   the negative.

 5                Senator Marcellino to explain his 

 6   vote.

 7                SENATOR MARCELLINO:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.  

 9                I rise to support this bill.  Is it 

10   perfect?  No.  Does it need refining?  Yes.  But 

11   it is a good first step.  And I commend my 

12   colleague for putting this bill out there and 

13   setting the stage and starting the dialogue that 

14   has to be started.  

15                We held hearings a few months ago on 

16   the MTA.  We know where the money is being 

17   spent.  Every entity in the MTA is losing 

18   billions of dollars except for one, the bridges 

19   and tunnels that collect the tolls.  They're the 

20   only ones making a profit.  Every other entity, 

21   including the city, is losing billions.  Can't 

22   keep running as an entity like that, can't keep 

23   supporting it by raising fares and cutting 

24   services.  Because that's what they do.  

25                They're driving people out of the 

                                                               4564

 1   subways, they're driving people off the Long 

 2   Island Railroad, they're putting them in their 

 3   cars, where we don't want them.  That's why the 

 4   bridges and tunnels are making money.  People are 

 5   not using mass transit.  It's becoming elite 

 6   transit.  The average citizen can't afford to use 

 7   the Long Island Railroad.  The average citizen 

 8   can't afford to use the subways anymore.  It's 

 9   costing too much money, and they're getting too 

10   little, imperfect service.  

11                Senator Zeldin's bill is the step we 

12   need to start this process.  It's the step we 

13   need to get this thing going.  We've got to send 

14   a message to everybody involved with the 

15   Metropolitan Transit Authority that enough is 

16   enough and our taxpayers and our ratepayers have 

17   had it up to here.  They want no more.  They want 

18   good service at fair prices.  They're getting 

19   neither.  And it's got to step.  

20                Mr. President, I vote aye.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

22   Marcellino to be recorded in the affirmative.

23                Senator Bonacic to explain his vote.

24                SENATOR BONACIC:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.

                                                               4565

 1                I rise to congratulate Senator 

 2   Zeldin.  I want to thank Senator Skelos because 

 3   our conference has made this tax, trying to 

 4   eliminate it, our number-one priority.  You're 

 5   going to see more bills concerning the MTA tax -- 

 6   as far as I'm concerned, the most punitive, the 

 7   most discriminatory tax I have ever seen or read 

 8   about in Albany.

 9                There was geographical 

10   discrimination when this tax was adopted.  What 

11   do I mean by that?  In Orange County, my 

12   population, 2.5 percent may use the buses.  We 

13   got taxed a hundred percent of the payroll tax.  

14   Every not-for-profit, small business, as in 

15   New York City, where the lion's share of that 

16   mass transit is used.  It was wrong what was done 

17   then, and this has to be corrected.  

18                This is a responsible act, phasing 

19   it out.  And everything that's been said about 

20   the MTA, we have lost confidence in the MTA.  

21   That's a quasi-public agency that's out of 

22   control.  We've heard about a forensic audit for 

23   years.  It doesn't get done.  Now we're committed 

24   to hold them accountable and get rid of this most 

25   punitive, most unfair tax.  

                                                               4566

 1                I vote in the affirmative, and I 

 2   thank Senator Zeldin.  

 3                Thank you, Mr. President.  

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 5   Bonacic to be recorded in the affirmative.

 6                Senator Larkin to explain his vote.

 7                SENATOR LARKIN:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.

 9                MTA.  MTA, in my district, is 

10   considered the enemy.  The chambers of commerce, 

11   small business, not-for-profits, everything that 

12   you would touch says one thing:  Why?  We have 

13   businesses in Orange County.  Nobody rides the 

14   MTA.  No subways, no buses, no trains.  Those who 

15   commute to the city, I meet them at the train 

16   station and I tell them, "You want to work in the 

17   city?  Pay the freight."  

18                Why should somebody pay in my 

19   district that doesn't work in the city, owns a 

20   business and all of his employees drive their 

21   cars?  I don't see the MTA or the city.  

22                You know, we talk about a state.  

23   Maybe sometime you folks ought to take a trip 

24   upstate and see how the rest of the world lives.  

25   We don't have the amenities.  We don't have the 

                                                               4567

 1   trains.  We don't have the buses.  People have to 

 2   drive their own car, and they're paying $4.10 a 

 3   gallon.  

 4                Let me just explain to you the tax.  

 5   Last October we had a great project going to 

 6   happen right in my district.  It was an offshoot 

 7   from Macy's out of New York City, someplace 

 8   that's been in business since 1855.  They came to 

 9   us, and the unions cut off 30 percent, everybody 

10   else chipped in to do something.  

11                Two things happened.  Empire State 

12   Development Corporation turned their back.  And 

13   what did we do?  We sat down with them and showed 

14   them the tax rates.  And when they said the tax, 

15   "What do you mean, we got to pay $34 million 

16   before we even put a shovel in the ground?"  We 

17   lost 2200 construction jobs.  And upon completion 

18   of the project, they were going to be hiring 1975 

19   employees.  They have none there.  There's a 

20   piece of ground.  

21                Why?  Because we got greedy people 

22   in the city that think the upstaters and 

23   outsiders should pay for this, for your luxury.  

24   If you want to ride the subway or that, pay for 

25   it.  Just like ours would pay for it when they go 

                                                               4568

 1   to work and use their cars and their gasoline.  

 2                Thank you, Mr. President.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 4   Larkin to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                Senator Carlucci to explain his 

 6   vote.  

 7                Again, I remind members, please stay 

 8   within the two-minute explanation.  Thank you.  

 9                Senator Carlucci.

10                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.

12                I want to thank my colleagues for 

13   putting this forward.  This is an important piece 

14   of legislation.  

15                As was said before, the MTA payroll 

16   tax is just an onerous, job-killing tax.  And in 

17   the district that I'm lucky enough to represent, 

18   we straddle New Jersey.  And in a time where 

19   we're competing for jobs, we're not only in 

20   competition with other nations but we're in 

21   competition with other states.  And when you can 

22   just drive a few miles down the road and be in a 

23   district where you don't have to pay this tax, 

24   it's a reason why businesses won't do business in 

25   Rockland and Orange Counties.  

                                                               4569

 1                We have to send a message to the 

 2   rest of the nation, to the rest of the world that 

 3   the Hudson Valley is open and ready for 

 4   business.  And I believe this is a great first 

 5   step to do that.  So, Mr. President, I'll be 

 6   voting in the affirmative.  Thank you.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 8   Carlucci to be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                Senator LaValle to explain his vote.

10                SENATOR LaVALLE:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.  

12                I want to congratulate Senator 

13   Zeldin, who has made this a number-one issue.  

14   There is no member in this chamber who has 

15   studied this issue, has looked at it -- and at 

16   times, I had the feeling he was like a bookkeeper 

17   from days gone by, moving numbers, crunching 

18   numbers to put together a proposal that made 

19   sense.

20                In Suffolk County, and I don't know 

21   whether someone said this, and in the outlying 

22   counties, our constituents feel like the MTA, for 

23   them, is an ATM machine, that they are paying for 

24   something that many people are not getting.  

25                And the First Senatorial District -- 

                                                               4570

 1   that is Eastern Long Island -- probably uses the 

 2   MTA the least of any area on Long Island.  I 

 3   represent Fishers Island.  Who on Fishers Island, 

 4   close to the Connecticut coastline, uses the 

 5   MTA?  And they feel put upon.  And it's about 

 6   jobs.  And I'll tell you, there's not much you 

 7   can do to create additional jobs on Fishers 

 8   Island.  Or in the East End parts of the 

 9   district, the small businesses really feel very 

10   put upon.  

11                So, Senator Zeldin, you've put forth 

12   a measure that shows great intellect, a great 

13   deal of energy, and you have put forth a 

14   reasonable proposal that people need to pay 

15   attention to during this session.

16                I vote aye.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

18   LaValle to be recorded in the affirmative.

19                Senator Parker to explain his vote.

20                SENATOR PARKER:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.  To explain my vote.

22                I'm voting no on this bill.  And I 

23   really don't want to get into the nature of the 

24   conversation we're getting into now, because this 

25   really is one New York.  And part of what 

                                                               4571

 1   everybody has to understand, regardless of 

 2   whether you're from the suburbs or the city or 

 3   from rural parts of the state, is that we are one 

 4   New York.  And in the context of one New York, 

 5   part of what you have to understand is that 

 6   everything is connected.  

 7                So yes, the people on the island may 

 8   not feel that they're using trains or using MTA 

 9   buses, but if you eliminate the MTA and eliminate 

10   the services that go along the borders, even 

11   things like the LIE, the Northern Expressway and 

12   the Southern State, those things would be parking 

13   lots all of the time without the MTA.

14                So our systems are connected.  And 

15   so even though it may seem like somebody who is 

16   driving isn't getting an advantage or a benefit 

17   from the MTA services, they actually are.

18                The other thing that we have to just 

19   get rid of is this notion that taxes kill jobs in 

20   small businesses.  I defy anybody to find me a 

21   reputable study from an independent source -- not 

22   a business source, from an independent source.  

23   No one wants to pay taxes.  But the reality is 

24   you can't on hand tell me you want no one to pay 

25   taxes and you still want bridges and you will 

                                                               4572

 1   want tunnels and you still want, you know, 

 2   subsidies for agriculture and you still want, you 

 3   know, prisons and you want all of these things 

 4   but no one wants to pay for it.  

 5                Paying your taxes is patriotic.  And 

 6   so I really want everybody in here, the same way 

 7   that we saluted the flag yesterday on Flag Day, 

 8   do something patriotic today, pay your taxes, 

 9   support the mass transit system that helps 

10   everybody in the state.  And let's remember, 

11   Mr. President, we're one New York.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Parker to be recorded in the negative.

14                Senator Saland to explain his vote.

15                SENATOR SALAND:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.  

17                Mr. President, I live in Dutchess 

18   County, and we are one of the renowned 

19   quarter-pounders, Dutchess, Putnam, Orange and 

20   Rockland.  And I have described our plight as 

21   being, in effect, revenue hostages.  

22                Less than 2 percent of the people in 

23   my county of over 300,000 people avail themselves 

24   of Metro-North.  And for the dubious distinction 

25   of being the end of the line, we wind up paying 

                                                               4573

 1   somewhere in the area of $100 million for those 

 2   2 percent of people.  That amounts to somewhere 

 3   in the area of -- it's less than 2 percent -- 

 4   4,000 or so people who regularly use or avail 

 5   themselves of Metro-North.

 6                The measure that was passed that 

 7   imposed this tax was perhaps one of the most 

 8   egregious, the most heinous, the most offensive 

 9   of all taxes because it bore no relationship to 

10   any reality.  And any one of us who was in those 

11   quarter-pound counties basically are there for 

12   one reason and one reason alone, which is to 

13   provide money to the coffers of the MTA.  

14                There are fewer commuters on the 

15   west side of the river than on the east side of 

16   the river, and we on the east side of the river 

17   have virtually no commuters.  So it is a gross 

18   injustice.  

19                This is an appropriate step 

20   forward.  I mean, if you look at the numbers, 

21   Metro-North has maybe 90,000 commuters.  We 

22   contribute 10,000 of them.  The vast majority of 

23   the commuters come from Westchester and 

24   Connecticut.  The city, on the other hand, has 

25   about 7.5 million commuters every day, between 

                                                               4574

 1   the buses and the subway.  And I can understand 

 2   the value that the city derives from it.  

 3                But there is no way on the face of 

 4   this earth that anybody is going to be able to 

 5   make a convincing argument that my county -- and 

 6   I am sure the same holds true for the other 

 7   quarter-pounders -- derives any benefit to speak 

 8   of, any significant benefit.  

 9                I vote in favor of this measure.  It 

10   is certainly a step in the right direction, and 

11   there's a lot more that we can do.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Saland to be recorded in the affirmative.

14                Senator Ball to explain his vote.

15                SENATOR BALL:   Yes, Mr. President.  

16   If paying taxes is your patriotic duty, I'm 

17   certainly proud, as a former Air Force captain 

18   and an Air Force Academy graduate, to know that I 

19   live in the most patriotic state in the United 

20   States of America.  

21                And if there's anybody out there in 

22   TV land other than my mom and my cat that's 

23   watching TV in the Senate right now that needs to 

24   know the clear definition between that side of 

25   the aisle and this side of the aisle, they should 

                                                               4575

 1   just go back a few steps and watch that statement 

 2   again and again and again.

 3                We have a patriotic duty, we have a 

 4   responsibility in this chamber to the people in 

 5   this state, the blue-collar people in this state 

 6   who are being driven out of the state.  That is 

 7   our duty.  That is our duty.  And they are not 

 8   leaving this state because they have too much 

 9   money or times are too good.  They're going to 

10   states like South Carolina and Texas and 

11   North Carolina, not because the pizza is good or 

12   the bagels are good, they're going because they 

13   can't afford to live in this state anymore.  

14                And if you really believe that we 

15   are one state, then you have a moral obligation 

16   to some places north of the bridges and tolls, to 

17   head up to the Hudson Valley and out to Long 

18   Island and beyond.  

19                This MTA payroll tax is a killer.  

20   It's the final nail in a coffin of a state that 

21   was once great.  We're not talking about a 

22   scarcity of resources, we're talking about an 

23   authority that has corruption going down to their 

24   headquarters, I believe at 2 Broadway, including 

25   mob infiltration and project overruns to the tune 

                                                               4576

 1   of 200 and 300 percent.  

 2                When we talked about the forensic 

 3   accounting, you said "Where are we going to get 

 4   the money?  You will save money -- and by 

 5   "forensic," we mean criminal accounting of the 

 6   MTA's books -- you will save money by 

 7   forensically accounting for their practices.  

 8                We cannot get our way -- and it's 

 9   your great Democratic governor, from your 

10   perspective, who has suggested that New York 

11   State no longer has a future of being number one 

12   in all the wrong ways, in overtaxation, in 

13   out-migration.  

14                This MTA payroll tax is another 

15   opportunity for this Legislature.  And if -- I'm 

16   not going to go back in history, but I know that 

17   if we were in the majority, we would not have had 

18   that MTA payroll tax.  We cannot dig our way out 

19   of this hole by more taxes and more fees and more 

20   regulation.  And this is the number-one thing 

21   that is killing small business owners.  

22                By 2014, this bill will ensure that 

23   $841 million in savings will be had.  That's  

24   $841 million in savings that will go directly 

25   back to small business owners who create over 

                                                               4577

 1   70 percent of the jobs.  

 2                This is one of the best job-creation 

 3   packages to come before this State Senate this 

 4   year.  If you want to support jobs and having one 

 5   state and getting New York State back on track 

 6   and saying that we are open for business, you 

 7   have got to vote yes.  Anything else is complete 

 8   pandering.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

10   Ball --

11                SENATOR BALL:  Thank you, and I will 

12   be voting yes.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

14   Ball to be recorded in the affirmative.

15                Senator Flanagan to explain his 

16   vote.

17                SENATOR FLANAGAN:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.  

19                It's always enlightening to be able 

20   to listen to our colleagues.  And I appreciate 

21   everyone's passion on the issue.  

22                I want to start by making two 

23   references.  One, there's been a number of 

24   references made to my new colleague from Suffolk, 

25   but I want to start with Senator Martins, who's 

                                                               4578

 1   also been very passionate and actively involved 

 2   in this issue, not only from a perspective as a 

 3   former local elected official but now as a State 

 4   Senator, and of course, Senator Zeldin.  

 5                And I don't think I'm going out on 

 6   the proverbial limb to suggest that a large part 

 7   and a core part of their success in arriving here 

 8   in Albany was tied directly to this tax.  They 

 9   learned about it, they got involved, they were 

10   passionate about it during the campaign, and now 

11   they've brought forward a measure that I think is 

12   reasonable.  

13                And as I heard Senator Marcellino 

14   say, there are other things that will need to be 

15   done.  And yes, Senator Parker, we do live in one 

16   New York, and I believe that very importantly.  

17   But I also must tell you that I don't really need 

18   a study.  I don't need statistics for me to 

19   understand that for small business in particular, 

20   taxes kill jobs.  Taxes kill jobs.  Taxes kill 

21   jobs.  And I will keep repeating that.  

22                And I don't think I'm any different 

23   from any of my colleagues in any part of the 

24   state.  When you go back and ask people, 

25   particularly in the MTA region, I have never had 

                                                               4579

 1   people talk to me more about a subject than the 

 2   MTA tax.  And it's casual.  You're out, and 

 3   people will talk about it, and you're an 

 4   accountant, you have a professional office, a 

 5   restaurant, a local government, you had to pay 

 6   it.  Our counties had to pay it.  It's a 

 7   job-killing tax that needs to be gotten rid of.  

 8                And I will close on this point.  I 

 9   think at the time of the enactment of this tax it 

10   showed a fundamental difference in priorities.  

11   We on the Republican side had a different set of 

12   priorities.  We were talking about the STAR 

13   rebate, we were talking about other things.  And 

14   in looking for balance, we never would have gone 

15   to a negotiating table and allowed the MTA tax to 

16   happen.  It's bad public policy.  It's bad 

17   politics.  It's bad government.  And it's 

18   something that should be rectified.  

19                And this approach is, again, 

20   reasonable and it's something that can and should 

21   be done, and I hope that we get real action in 

22   the Assembly.  Thank you.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

24   Flanagan to be recorded in the affirmative.

25                Senator Martins to explain his vote.

                                                               4580

 1                SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

 2   Mr. President.

 3                I want to start by congratulating 

 4   Senator Zeldin and Senator Ball for their efforts 

 5   in making this bill a reality.  You know, if 

 6   we're going to use the payment of taxes as a 

 7   barometer for how patriotic we are, I represent 

 8   perhaps the most patriotic district not only in 

 9   the state but in this country, from the amount of 

10   taxes that we pay, from property taxes, this 

11   payroll tax, income taxes, and it goes on and on 

12   and on.

13                But it doesn't surprise me that 

14   we're getting push-back from the very same people 

15   who voted to impose this payroll tax on our 

16   businesses, on our not-for-profits, on our 

17   schools, on our local governments -- yet never 

18   once asked why is it that the MTA is the only 

19   entity in New York State that gets a blank 

20   check.  Why is it that when we asked our schools 

21   to take a cut this year -- we all did, on both 

22   sides of the aisle -- when we asked Medicaid to 

23   take a cut and every state agency to take a cut 

24   this year, why is it that the MTA gets a pass?  

25                And if you look at the numbers, it's 

                                                               4581

 1   $234 million the first year.  The MTA has a 

 2   $14 billion budget.  That's less than 2 percent 

 3   of their budget.  And if you tell me that the MTA 

 4   can't absorb a less than 2 percent efficiency in 

 5   their own budget, then we have more to talk about 

 6   than is evident here in this bill.

 7                In my district we're talking about 

 8   not-for-profits who have told me that they have 

 9   not been able to provide services to people who 

10   need it in this recession because they're paying 

11   this tax.  We're talking about churches, 

12   synagogues, schools, as well as our local 

13   governments, who are passing on this tax to our 

14   property taxpayers.

15                This is a rational approach to 

16   phasing out this tax over three years.  It starts 

17   out by eliminating the tax for small businesses 

18   with less than 25 employees.  It makes sense.  It 

19   restores jobs in our economy.  And I would ask 

20   everybody to consider voting for it, even those 

21   who were misguided enough to impose it to begin 

22   with.  

23                I'll be voting in the affirmative.  

24   Thank you, Mr. President.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

                                                               4582

 1   Martins to be recorded in the affirmative.

 2                Is there any other Senator that 

 3   wishes to explain their vote on the issue?

 4                Seeing none, hearing none, I call on 

 5   Senator Zeldin to close.

 6                SENATOR ZELDIN:   Keeping the 

 7   commitment.  It's been a rallying cry for our 

 8   conference all session.  Cutting taxes, cutting 

 9   spending, creating jobs.  Keeping the 

10   commitment.  That's what this legislation all 

11   about.  

12                I was surprised to hear just now 

13   that by repealing the MTA payroll tax that 

14   somehow that was going to kill jobs.  The 

15   rationale of what I'm hearing on the other side 

16   of the aisle does not make any sense to my 

17   constituents in the Third Senate District.  

18   That's why they sent me here, to fight for them.

19                This is an effort that is more than 

20   a press release, Senator Squadron.  Months of 

21   work has gone into researching, consolidating 

22   balance sheets and the budgets.  Multiple 

23   hearings have taken place.  A lot of thought has 

24   gone into this bill.  And there are Democratic 

25   majority sponsors in the State Assembly.  And we 

                                                               4583

 1   have a Governor who's in favor of repealing the 

 2   MTA payroll tax.  This is not a press release, 

 3   this is action.  

 4                And if you were serious about 

 5   keeping our commitment, if our commitment was 

 6   your commitment, you too would be sharing the 

 7   goal of cutting taxes, of cutting spending, of 

 8   creating jobs.  You'd be calling your colleagues 

 9   in the State Assembly, telling them to take 

10   action to repeal this tax.  You'd be calling your 

11   Governor, our Governor, for him to take action to 

12   repeal this tax.  

13                I want to thank you, Senator Skelos, 

14   for your leadership.  I want to thank Senator 

15   Martins, Senator Ball, our fine Finance staff and 

16   counsel office -- Rob Mujica, Mary Clark, Mary 

17   Arzumanian, Mark Nachbar, Steven Taylor, Diane 

18   Burman, Ryan McAllister.  Senator Carlucci, thank 

19   you for your cosponsorship as well.  

20                And this is fortunately, hopefully 

21   for us, more than just a positive first step, 

22   this is hopefully very close to the final step.  

23   Thank you.  And I absolutely will be voting in 

24   the affirmative.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

                                                               4584

 1   Zeldin will be recorded in the affirmative.

 2                Announce the results.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4   Calendar Number 1291, those recorded in the 

 5   negative are Senators Adams, Addabbo, Avella, 

 6   Diaz, Dilan, Duane, Espaillat, Gianaris, 

 7   Hassell-Thompson, Klein, L. Krueger, Montgomery, 

 8   Parker, Peralta, Perkins, Rivera, Sampson, 

 9   Savino, Serrano, Squadron, Stavisky.  Also 

10   Senator Huntley.

11                Ayes, 40.  Nays, 22.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   1292, by Senator Kennedy, Senate Print 5607, an 

16   angle to legalize, validate, ratify and confirm.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20   act shall take effect immediately.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

                                                               4585

 1   is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1293, by Senator Martins, Senate Print 5628, an 

 4   act to authorize the Village of Mineola.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

13   1.  Senator Bonacic recorded in the negative.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Carlucci 

17   moves to discharge, from the Committee on Local 

18   Government, Assembly Bill Number 2930A and 

19   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

20   Number 5638, Third Reading Calendar 1294.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    

22   Substitution ordered.

23                The Secretary will read.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1294, by Member of the Assembly Zebrowski, 

                                                               4586

 1   Assembly Print 2930A, an act to amend the Village 

 2   Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14               Senator Larkin.

15                SENATOR LARKIN:   Mr. President, I 

16   don't think my hand was up high enough, but on 

17   1293 I was also a no.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

19   record shall so reflect, Senator Larkin.  

20                The Secretary will continue to read.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   1295, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 5709, an 

23   act to amend Chapter 576 of the Laws of 1974.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

25   last section.

                                                               4587

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 7   aside.

 8                Senator Skelos, that completes the 

 9   noncontroversial reading of Senate Supplemental 

10   Calendar 53A.

11                Senator Skelos.

12                SENATOR SKELOS:   Mr. President, 

13   there will be an immediate meeting of the Rules 

14   Committee in Room 332 of the Capitol.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

16   an immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in 

17   Room 332.

18                Senator Breslin.

19                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Yes.  While the 

20   Rules meeting is going on, I would request that 

21   the remainder of the Democratic Conference go to 

22   our conference room for a brief discussion.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

24   Breslin has requested the remaining members of 

25   the Democrat Conference to go to the Democrat 

                                                               4588

 1   Conference Room as the Rules Committee is 

 2   meeting.

 3                The Senate will stand at ease.

 4                (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

 5   at 5:57 p.m.)

 6                (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

 7   7:32 p.m.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT DeFRANCISCO:  

 9   Senator Libous.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

11   this time the Senate will break for dinner and we 

12   will resume session at 10:00 o'clock, when we'll 

13   take up the calendar.  

14                The Senate will stand at ease.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT DeFRANCISCO:   The 

16   Senate will stand at ease, and we are to 

17   reassemble at 10:00 o'clock.

18                (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

19   at 7:33 p.m.)

20                (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

21   10:04 a.m.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

23   Senate will come to order.

24                Senator Libous.

25                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

                                                               4589

 1   we go to reports of standing committees.  I 

 2   believe there's a report of the Rules Committee 

 3   at the desk.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 5   Secretary will read.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Skelos, 

 7   from the Committee on Rules, reports the 

 8   following bill direct to third reading:  Senate 

 9   Print 5773, by the Committee on Rules, an act to 

10   amend Chapter 576 of the Laws of 1974.

11                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

12   move to accept the Rules Committee report.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

14   a motion to accept the Rules Committee report.  

15   All in favor signify by saying aye.

16                (Response of "Aye.")

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

18                (No response.)

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

20   report is accepted.

21                Senator Libous.

22                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

23   this time I think we should take up Supplemental 

24   Calendar 53B, noncontroversial reading.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

                                                               4590

 1   Secretary will read.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Skelos 

 3   moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 4   Assembly Bill Number 8446 and substitute it for 

 5   the identical Senate Bill Number 5773, Third 

 6   Reading Calendar 1268.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    

 8   Substitution so ordered.  

 9                The Secretary will read.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   1268, by Member of the Assembly Lopez, Assembly 

12   Print 8446, an act to amend Chapter 576 of the 

13   Laws of 1974.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

15   Libous.

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, is 

17   there a message of necessity at the desk?  

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

19   a message of necessity at the desk.

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I move to accept 

21   the message of necessity.  

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   All in 

23   favor signify by saying aye.  

24                (Response of "Aye.")

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

                                                               4591

 1                (No response.)

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 3   message of necessity is accepted.

 4                Senator Libous.  

 5                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Lay it aside.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 7   aside.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

 9   this time can we take up the controversial 

10   reading of Supplemental Calendar 53B.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

12   Secretary will ring the bell.

13                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Explanation.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

15   Libous, Senator Breslin has asked for an 

16   explanation.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

18   what this bill does is it extends --

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

20   Libous, excuse me, we have to call the bill up 

21   again.

22                The Secretary will read.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Calendar 

24   Number 1268, by Member of the Assembly Lopez, 

25   Assembly Print 8446, an act to amend Chapter 576 

                                                               4592

 1   of the Laws of 1974.

 2                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Explanation.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   An 

 4   explanation has been requested, Senator Libous.  

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

 6   this extends the rent regulation to Friday of 

 7   this week at 3:00 p.m.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

 9   you, Senator Libous.

10                Senator Krueger.

11                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you very 

12   much.  Will the sponsor yield for some 

13   questions?  

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Will the 

15   sponsor yield?  

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, the 

17   Governor is the sponsor of this bill, and I'm not 

18   sure he would yield.  But I'll try to answer 

19   Senator Krueger's questions.

20                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

21                So this bill is an extension until 

22   June 17th at 3 o'clock post-meridian time; is 

23   that correct?  

24                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Yes, 

25   Mr. President.

                                                               4593

 1                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Mr. President, if 

 2   through you the sponsor would continue to yield.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 4   Libous will yield on behalf of the Governor's 

 5   program bill, Senator Krueger.

 6                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

 7                What's your understanding of what 

 8   happens at 3:01 on June 17th post-meridian time?  

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

10   anything could happen between now and then.

11                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

12                On the bill.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

14   Krueger on the bill.

15                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  I 

16   appreciate the sponsor's response.

17                Here's the dilemma.  It's now 10:07 

18   on June 15th.  We have rent regulation laws set 

19   to expire at midnight or 12:01 June 16th.  We're 

20   being given a bill that goes till Friday at 

21   3:00 p.m.  But we have 2.5 million New York 

22   residents whose future ability to stay in their 

23   homes is dependent on what this body does.  

24   Perhaps not by 12:01 a.m., but now by 3:00 p.m. 

25   on Friday.  

                                                               4594

 1                We've been in session since the 

 2   beginning of the year.  We have had endless 

 3   numbers of days of relatively nonactive committee 

 4   meetings or active lists.  We've known we needed 

 5   to deal with this issue.  And yet at 10:05 on 

 6   June 15, 2011, the only thing we're being offered 

 7   by the Governor and the Senate leadership and the 

 8   Assembly, which I understand has passed this 

 9   bill, is a few hours' extension.

10                So I would like to take this 

11   opportunity to talk about what I think should be 

12   in a bill that is before us tonight or should 

13   have been in a bill before us weeks or even 

14   months ago.

15                And the reason I think it's worth 

16   discussing starting at 10:07 or 10:04 on 

17   June 15th is because this is a critical issue for 

18   2.5 million New Yorkers.  I would actually argue 

19   it's significantly more than 2.5 million 

20   New Yorkers, it's 2.5 million individuals living 

21   in a million, approximately, rent-regulated 

22   units.  But there is a domino relationship 

23   between what happens to tenants living in 

24   rent-regulated units and what happens to tenants 

25   living in the apartments in the same buildings or 

                                                               4595

 1   in neighboring buildings or in neighboring 

 2   communities.  

 3                Because when you have a shortage of 

 4   housing, which I would like to present is a 

 5   statistical and quantitative fact for New York 

 6   City and many other sections of the state, when 

 7   you have a housing crisis, a vacancy rate so low 

 8   that you really cannot find alternative housing 

 9   at equivalent prices, you have an impact 

10   throughout the housing market and throughout 

11   communities, particularly those communities who 

12   are of lesser wealth.  And again, in our society, 

13   in our state, in my city, it's disproportionately 

14   lower-income and people of color.  

15                And so this is a housing crisis for 

16   millions of people, for millions of the most 

17   vulnerable New Yorkers.  And it's now 10:10 on 

18   June 15th, and we're talking about a 36-, 37-hour 

19   extension.

20                Rent regulation laws were created 

21   because there was a housing crisis in the City of 

22   New York.  And actually they date back to earlier 

23   than World War II.  But there was perhaps an 

24   illusion that we would age out of the problem or 

25   we would build our way out of the problem.  And 

                                                               4596

 1   in fact, we have not done either.  Our housing 

 2   stock is older, our population living in this 

 3   housing stock is both older and younger.  And we 

 4   have tried to build enough affordable housing for 

 5   the generations that have come after the original 

 6   generations who needed rent regulation, who 

 7   needed the protections of the State of New York, 

 8   but we have failed in that assignment.  

 9                So despite the fact that even in the 

10   current mayoral administration of Mayor Michael 

11   Bloomberg he has done a much more aggressive job 

12   at trying to build more affordable housing for 

13   New York City, we have lost more units than we 

14   have been able to build.  We are actually in a 

15   bigger crisis now than when he came into office.  

16   And in fact the only thing that we can do at this 

17   moment in history is to strengthen and expand 

18   rent regulations.  

19                And my colleagues and I have a 

20   number of proposals that would go far to 

21   addressing the problems that we are facing in 

22   rent regulation, and I know that some of them are 

23   going to be discussing some specifics.  I'll just 

24   start with the specific of repealing the  Urstadt 

25   Law.  

                                                               4597

 1                Up until 1973, the State Legislature 

 2   didn't decide housing policy for the City of 

 3   New York.  And I would hypothesize there are a 

 4   large number of my colleagues here on both sides 

 5   of the aisle who often wonder why we are deciding 

 6   and dealing with housing policy and tenant policy 

 7   and rental policy in the City of New York and in 

 8   Nassau and Westchester and Rockland County.

 9                I would hypothesize that many of my 

10   colleagues would wonder very seriously why 

11   New York City elected officials such as myself 

12   were making decisions about their housing policy 

13   in their districts, their zoning policy, their 

14   urban planning or suburban planning.  That many 

15   of us have stood on this floor in support, loudly 

16   and proudly, of home-rule rights, of the 

17   importance of big government at the state level 

18   not micromanaging local issues.  

19                And yet tonight we're in this 

20   position because we've never repealed a law that 

21   was a serious mistake that was passed in 1973, 

22   the Urstadt Law, which took the decision-making 

23   and the power over New York City housing policy 

24   away from New York City's government, the City 

25   Council and the mayor, and moved it up here to 

                                                               4598

 1   Albany.

 2                So we're here tonight at this moment 

 3   in time for many reasons.  But I would submit 

 4   that a bill that I have carried here in the 

 5   Senate for I believe as many years as I have been 

 6   here, to repeal the 1973 Urstadt Law and hand the 

 7   power and responsibility for the good and the 

 8   bad, for the easy and the tough, back to the 

 9   New York City Council and to the mayor of New 

10   York City, would be a much better answer, would 

11   be a conservative answer, would even be, small 

12   "R," a republican answer.  

13                And that we could do that tonight 

14   very easily.  The bill is in.  It has aged.  We 

15   could call a Rules Committee meeting.  We could 

16   bring Urstadt repeal to the floor.  And we could 

17   have done the right thing for the City of 

18   New York and address this crisis as best we could 

19   in the context of being legislators from all over 

20   the state, many of whom have little knowledge 

21   and, frankly, not an obvious interest in the 

22   future of affordable housing in the southern 

23   districts of this state.

24                So I would recommend that in the 

25   next 36 hours we should consider moving an 

                                                               4599

 1   Urstadt repeal law under whosever name we like, 

 2   calling it whatever we like.  Give the authority 

 3   and the control of the future of housing back to 

 4   the local governments who have to take daily 

 5   responsibility for how they answer the questions 

 6   will we have affordable homes in our communities, 

 7   will we have an urban planning model that ensures 

 8   we can plan for our future, we can keep our 

 9   senior citizens in the communities they have 

10   lived in and built, we can have children and 

11   grandchildren live in those same communities, we 

12   can have an urban planning process that provides 

13   for the most possible and the best way possible.

14                We have a City Council who each year 

15   from New York City sends us a home-rule message 

16   supporting Urstadt repeal.  

17                So I am hoping that between now and 

18   3:00 p.m. on Friday, among any number of other 

19   strengthening provisions we could do in rent 

20   regulation, we could move an Urstadt repeal 

21   bill.  And I would encourage my colleagues on 

22   both sides of the aisle to work hard to move us 

23   towards that, to move us in that direction to 

24   accomplish that goal before we leave here on 

25   Friday at 3:00 p.m.  

                                                               4600

 1                Thank you, Mr. President.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 3   Espaillat.

 4                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.

 6                Now that we're back from a little 

 7   break, I hope we're all feeling a little more 

 8   rested and we can be ready for a vigorous debate 

 9   and discussion about this very important piece of 

10   legislation that impacts over 2.5 million 

11   New Yorkers.  

12                I think that warrants a vigorous and 

13   lengthy debate.  It doesn't matter how late we 

14   end.  We started at 10:00, we started pretty 

15   late.  So for those of us that have advocated for 

16   this bill, the rent bill to be included in the 

17   budget, and for those of us that throughout this 

18   session, this legislative session, have advocated 

19   that we work very hard not to find ourselves at 

20   the precipice here tonight, with less than two 

21   hours to go, I think it's becoming upon us that 

22   we all reflect how this issue impacts over a 

23   million units of housing and 2.5 million 

24   New Yorkers.

25                Those of us that are concerned about 

                                                               4601

 1   taxes should also be concerned that a rent 

 2   increase for a poor family or a working-class 

 3   family or even a middle-class family, a rent 

 4   increase is equivalent to a heavy tax.  In fact, 

 5   some have said throughout this session that 

 6   New Yorkers have voted with their feet because we 

 7   have increased taxes across the state.

 8                Well, I say that New Yorkers have 

 9   voted with their feet because rent is too high.  

10   Just like New Yorkers have left the state because 

11   there's a real estate tax-cap problem, 

12   New Yorkers have also left because the city 

13   becomes unaffordable, families aren't making ends 

14   meet, they find to hard to survive in the 

15   boroughs and outside of the boroughs, and they 

16   leave the city and the state because the rent is 

17   too high.

18                So this is a very important and 

19   defining moment this year, this session.  And an 

20   extension, obviously, of these rent laws is not 

21   enough.  We need to strengthen also tenant 

22   protection.  And if we extend the laws, what we 

23   will get is in addition to 300,000 units of 

24   housing that have been deregulated since 1994, we 

25   will get an additional 100,000 units of 

                                                               4602

 1   affordable housing disappear in the next decade.

 2                So this is critical to all of us.  

 3   And the time to act is now.  And a mere extender 

 4   is not enough.  Recent polls show that 61 percent 

 5   of New Yorkers support an extension of the rent 

 6   laws, and 65 percent of New Yorkers think that 

 7   these laws should be strengthened, that tenant 

 8   protection should be strengthened.  Voting to 

 9   just extend the current law is a vote against 

10   tenants.  As I said previously, we have lost 

11   300,000 units of housing.  

12                We are ready to stay as long as we 

13   can to strengthen the law.  We join Governor 

14   Cuomo in his call that we should not leave Albany 

15   unless we take care of this issue.  In fact, we 

16   should not even leave tonight unless we take care 

17   of this issue.  A mere extension is not enough.  

18   Expanding rent regulation will stabilize 

19   New York's affordable housing stock and ensure 

20   that working and middle-class families have the 

21   protections to stay in their homes and in their 

22   neighborhoods.

23                Our omnibus bill that we presented 

24   early in session will strengthen rent 

25   stabilization laws, safeguard tenants from 

                                                               4603

 1   harassment and abuse, and secure the stock of 

 2   affordable housing for working-class families 

 3   that we they need to stay in New York.

 4                Within that omnibus bill we have 

 5   several provisions that are of critical 

 6   importance to many of us.  One is the major 

 7   capital improvement program, the MCI program.  

 8   You may know that landlords often hike the rent 

 9   when they apply for a rent increase through HCR 

10   after they have done a major capital improvement 

11   to their building.  It is often used as a 

12   back-door way to hike the rent.  

13                So, for example, new windows are 

14   installed in a building that has a hundred units, 

15   for example.  And those windows obviously cost to 

16   be installed, and the landlord invests money to 

17   install those new windows.  So he or she may 

18   apply to HCR for a rent increase for the 

19   installation of those windows.  And HCR will then 

20   render a decision that often turns out to be an 

21   increase per room per apartment for those 

22   families.

23                Now, these increases are not given 

24   temporarily or throughout the lifetime of the 

25   recapturing of the investment, as it should be.  

                                                               4604

 1   If you invest $100,000 in putting in new windows, 

 2   once you have recaptured that money, that 

 3   investment, the rent should go back down.  It's 

 4   common sense.  No, the increase goes on in 

 5   perpetuity.  It happens forever.  And two years 

 6   down the line, when that tenant renews their 

 7   lease, that increase of the lease is based on the 

 8   aggregate cost of rent, the original rent plus 

 9   the increase that the landlord got through the 

10   MCI practices.

11                This omnibus bill proposes to 

12   correct that egregious problem in the rent laws 

13   by making sure that rent surcharges cease upon 

14   the recovery of improvement costs by landlords, 

15   placing a limitation on the term of such 

16   increases.  It also establishes a method by which 

17   the allocation of such increases can be 

18   calculated based on the number of rooms in a 

19   rental unit.

20                The increase related to any 

21   improvement should not exceed 6 percent of the 

22   monthly rent.  Nor should the improvement, if 

23   it's not covered by the 6 percent limit, the 

24   additional cost may be paid for in increments not 

25   exceeding 6 percent forthwith.  

                                                               4605

 1                I further propose in the omnibus 

 2   bill that any landlord applying for a rent 

 3   increase through HCR provide a detailed 

 4   explanation of the improvements, as there has 

 5   been many complaints about potential fraud in the 

 6   paperwork that is submitted and the receipts that 

 7   are submitted to HCR regarding this major capital 

 8   improvement.  The explanation would list all the 

 9   improvements that the landlord used to calculate 

10   the new rent, and proof, showing the cost of the 

11   completed improvement that has been paid for.

12                So this is the MCI, Major Capital 

13   Improvement program that the omnibus bill 

14   proposes to dramatically reform by ensuring that 

15   an owner will only be able to hike the rent until 

16   he or she recovers the investment in the 

17   improvement.  Many of us would think that that's 

18   a fair and practical solution to this problem, 

19   that in fact the MCI practices have been used as 

20   a back-door way to hike the rent on top of other 

21   availabilities that owners may have to hike the 

22   recent.  So we are proposing in this omnibus bill 

23   that the MCI program should be reformed 

24   dramatically.

25                In addition to that, we have the 

                                                               4606

 1   problem of personal use.  The need for safe and 

 2   affordable housing continues to be a challenge 

 3   for many, many residents throughout the state, 

 4   particularly for residents in New York City.  

 5   Consequently, for a landlord to take over 

 6   multiple units or an entire building, as 

 7   sometimes it happens, of regulated units with the 

 8   claim that the landlord and family members need 

 9   them as personal residences, is simply a ploy 

10   that further reduces the affordable housing stock 

11   in New York City.

12                Therefore, the omnibus bill proposes 

13   that the landlord's ability to empty out an 

14   entire building or a number of units be limited.  

15   It is fair that it should be so, that in fact the 

16   landlord should not be able to take over 

17   rent-regulated units as a primary residence 

18   unless there's an immediate and compelling reason 

19   why that should be so.  The landlord's recovery, 

20   that the landlord's recovery be limited to one 

21   apartment and not all the apartments in a 

22   multi-unit housing building if the tenant has 

23   lived there for 20 years or more.

24                Mr. President, at this time I would 

25   like to ask Senator Libous some questions, if he 

                                                               4607

 1   may.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 3   Libous, do you yield?  

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Yes, 

 5   Mr. President.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 7   Espaillat.

 8                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Senator Libous, 

 9   why are we today, after a full session, and I may 

10   say a very productive session where we have 

11   tackled very important issues that affect many 

12   New Yorkers, and where both sides of the aisle 

13   have been effective in having perhaps what may 

14   wind up to be one of the most productive 

15   legislative sessions in years, why are we voting 

16   today on an extender after we have asked for the 

17   rent bill to be included in the budget and for 

18   months upon months we have asked you to engage us 

19   in a fair discussion on this very important 

20   rent-regulation bill?  Why are we voting to 

21   extend another 38 hours when we have had weeks 

22   and months and tenants are now very anxious and 

23   seniors and single moms across the City of 

24   New York are afraid that they are going to lose 

25   their apartment when the clock ticks 12:00?  Why 

                                                               4608

 1   are we doing this now?  

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

 3   Senator, that's why we're doing this now, so that 

 4   doesn't happen.

 5                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Well, many of 

 6   us feel that in fact.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 8   Espaillat, are you asking Senator Libous to 

 9   continue to yield?

10                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Mr. President, 

11   through you, if I may -- I want to make a strong 

12   statement on the bill, Mr. President.  

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Are you 

14   on the bill now?  

15                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Thank you, 

16   Senator Libous.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

18   Espaillat on the bill.

19                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   We have come 

20   full circle on this debate about rent regulation, 

21   and yet we are here again at the precipice, at 

22   the eleventh hour, with our backs to the wall, 

23   having to answer to 2.5 million New Yorkers.  We 

24   took a long break for two hours, and here we are 

25   trying to shut down session very quickly in the 

                                                               4609

 1   middle of the night, with no sunshine, with very 

 2   little transparency.  And we're trying to simply 

 3   extend for 38 hours the pain of over 2.5 million 

 4   New Yorkers that tonight will go home to sleep, 

 5   many of them thinking that when they wake up 

 6   tomorrow they may not have an apartment.  

 7                Seniors that may not understand, 

 8   fully understand the very complicated housing 

 9   code will go to sleep tonight thinking that.  

10   Parents with their children asleep that are 

11   trying to make ends meet with a bad economy will 

12   go to sleep thinking that perhaps tomorrow their 

13   rent will go up.  Young professionals that are 

14   facing the $2,000 threshold and their apartment 

15   may be deregulated are also going to sleep 

16   tonight thinking that perhaps they may not be 

17   able to afford their rent when it goes up.

18                It should have never gotten to 

19   this.  This is too much of an important issue to 

20   us.  In fact, I saw a lot of vigor in the debate 

21   over the property tax cap, which is 

22   philosophically joined at the hip with this.  If 

23   you cannot pay your taxes because your property 

24   taxes are too high, and you lose your home, it's 

25   no different than you cannot pay your rent and 

                                                               4610

 1   you lose your home.  Eventually both families 

 2   will be homeless or will have to leave the state.

 3                This is a very important issue.  It 

 4   should have never dragged to this moment.  We 

 5   should have taken care of it earlier.  It will 

 6   impact on a significant number of New Yorkers.  

 7   And a mere extender is not good enough.  

 8                That's why I will be voting in the 

 9   negative, Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

11   you, Senator Espaillat.

12                Is there any other Senator wishing 

13   to be heard?

14                Senator Diaz.

15                SENATOR DIAZ:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.  

17                I see tonight the passion and the 

18   fervor with which my colleagues are defending the 

19   2.5 million residents of the State of New York.  

20   I heard my colleagues ask "Why now?"  I have to 

21   say, ladies and gentlemen, that we didn't -- we 

22   heard that it should never have gotten to this 

23   point, and I agree.  

24                I agree, ladies and gentlemen, this 

25   should have never gotten to this point, and those 

                                                               4611

 1   senior citizens and those 2.5 million residents 

 2   should have no reason to be worrying that in one 

 3   half-hour the rent laws will expire.

 4                We could have done this before.  I 

 5   asked my colleagues, I asked my -- we have six 

 6   Hispanic Senators.  I asked all of them.  We have 

 7   blacks here, African-American Senators.  I asked 

 8   them, during the budget negotiations, let's not 

 9   vote for this budget until Governor Cuomo 

10   includes in that budget the rent laws and the 

11   millionaire tax so our residents will not be hurt 

12   by cutting services.  I asked them to do that.  

13                In politics you only have some chips 

14   to bargain.  Once you give out those chips, you 

15   have nothing, nothing to bargain.  So we didn't 

16   have to be here.  And we could have protected our 

17   people.  The six Hispanic Senators and the 

18   African-Americans, especially, and all the 

19   Democrats in this chamber, we could have held our 

20   votes and we could have told the Governor, If you 

21   care so much about the poor and needy, include in 

22   that budget the rent laws, and then we will vote 

23   for it.

24                But, ladies and gentlemen, my 

25   colleagues didn't want to embarrass the 

                                                               4612

 1   Governor.  And they went to the Governor and they 

 2   voted, and they all voted for the budget without 

 3   the rent.  And they all voted for the budget 

 4   without the millionaire tax.  

 5                So now our residents, our 

 6   constituents have been affected.  Services have 

 7   been cut.  Education money has been cut.  We 

 8   could have prevented that.  We could even have 

 9   prevented being here today.

10                So there is no reason why are we 

11   asking and discussing, Oh, what are we doing, 

12   what are we doing.  It's our fault.  It's our 

13   fault.  The only two people, the only two 

14   Democrats that voted against that budget was 

15   Senator Tom Duane and myself.  Every other 

16   Democrat voted for that budget.  Without, without 

17   the rent laws and without the millionaire tax.

18                So don't blame anybody.  The culprit 

19   is the Governor and we the Democrats that voted 

20   for that budget.  If we would have not voted for 

21   that budget, the people would have been 

22   protected.

23                So we neglected to protect the 

24   people.  We neglected to defend our community.  

25   We neglected that.  And I could stand here proud 

                                                               4613

 1   and say, Hey, I didn't vote for it because of 

 2   that.  I didn't vote for it because of that, 

 3   because I knew that the rent laws were not 

 4   included and I knew that the millionaire tax was 

 5   not included there.

 6                So today we're doing an extension.  

 7   I'm voting that for that extension I am voting 

 8   for the extension.  I am voting for the extension 

 9   so we could have more time and until Friday at 

10   whatever to be sure that the tenants are 

11   protected.  

12                But we should have done better.  

13   Ladies and gentlemen, we should have done 

14   better.  Only Senator Tom Duane and myself 

15   abstained from voting for that budget.  So if 

16   something happens and if our people get hurt, 

17   there is no other people to blame but those that 

18   voted for that budget without rent control and 

19   without millionaire tax.

20                So, ladies and gentlemen, 

21   Mr. President, yes, I am voting yes on the 

22   extension.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

24   Rivera.

25                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

                                                               4614

 1   Mr. President.

 2                I want to speak about rent 

 3   regulation.  I want to briefly address some of 

 4   the comments of Senator Diaz, and they're 

 5   certainly germane to this conversation.  

 6                I do not believe that there was -- 

 7   when we're talking about the budget, there were 

 8   certainly difficult votes that we took.  And I 

 9   believe that there were some votes that we should 

10   have -- that we could have done differently.  But 

11   overall, I believe that we made the tough choices 

12   that we needed to make.  

13                And there were a few of the budget 

14   bills, as you remember, Senator Diaz, that we 

15   actually voted against.  I voted against two of 

16   the bills.  And one of them was certainly 

17   regarding the millionaire's tax.

18                Now, as far as rent regulation is 

19   concerned, I want to speak briefly about my own 

20   personal history.  I got to New York in 1998.  

21   And at first I lived in the dorms for the 

22   Graduate Center, the CUNY Graduate Center where I 

23   came to study for a Ph.D. in political science.  

24   Shortly after that, I moved to East Harlem.  And 

25   then just a little bit after that, I moved up to 

                                                               4615

 1   the Bronx.  

 2                I moved up there into a 

 3   rent-regulated apartment.  I would not have been 

 4   able to live in the city, I would not have been 

 5   able to thrive in the city if it was not for rent 

 6   regulation.  Seventy-two thousand units in my 

 7   district, and the hundreds of thousands of people 

 8   that live in it, are going to be impacted by 

 9   this.  And I believe that we owe them.  I 

10   certainly believe, I certainly know that I owe 

11   them my voice in this chamber and in this 

12   conversation.  We need to extend the rent 

13   regulations, though we need strengthen them, so 

14   we can protect the millions of New Yorkers that 

15   live in rent-regulated apartments who again would 

16   not be able to live in the city or thrive in the 

17   city without these laws.

18                Thank you, Mr. President.  I will be 

19   voting in the negative on this extension.  

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

21   you, Senator Rivera.

22                Senator Diaz, why do you rise?

23                SENATOR DIAZ:   Would Senator Rivera 

24   yield for a question or two?

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

                                                               4616

 1   Rivera, do you yield to questions from Senator 

 2   Diaz?

 3                SENATOR RIVERA:   I will certainly 

 4   yield for a few questions, Senator Diaz.

 5                SENATOR DIAZ:   Yes, thank you, 

 6   Senator.

 7                Senator Rivera, did you or did you 

 8   not know that the budget didn't include the 

 9   rent -- the extension for the rent control, for 

10   the rent law --

11                SENATOR RIVERA:   It did not include 

12   it, no, sir.

13                SENATOR DIAZ:   -- before you voted 

14   for it?  

15                SENATOR RIVERA:   Did it include it 

16   before I voted for it?

17                SENATOR DIAZ:   Did you know that 

18   the rent law was not included in the budget?  

19                SENATOR RIVERA:   Yes.

20                SENATOR DIAZ:   Will you yield --

21                SENATOR RIVERA:   I will continue to 

22   yield.  

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

24   Diaz asks Senator Rivera to yield.  Senator 

25   Rivera yields.

                                                               4617

 1                SENATOR DIAZ:   Senator Rivera, did 

 2   I ask you not to vote for that budget until the 

 3   rent control be included, yes or no?  

 4                SENATOR RIVERA:   Yes.

 5                SENATOR DIAZ:   Could you --

 6                SENATOR RIVERA:  I yield.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 8   Rivera does yield.

 9                SENATOR DIAZ:   So, Senator Rivera, 

10   what did you vote for it?  

11                SENATOR RIVERA:   I voted yes on 

12   nine of the budget bills and no on two of them.

13                SENATOR DIAZ:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

16   Rivera, do you continue to yield?  

17                SENATOR RIVERA:   Just one more 

18   question.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   One more 

20   question, Senator Diaz.

21                SENATOR DIAZ:   So, Senator Rivera, 

22   even knowing that this would affect your 

23   constituents, you decided to vote for it.

24                SENATOR RIVERA:   It was a tough 

25   choice, but yes, sir.

                                                               4618

 1                SENATOR DIAZ:   All right, thank 

 2   you.  

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

 4   you, Senator Rivera.  

 5                Is there any other Senator wishing 

 6   to be heard?

 7                Senator DeFrancisco.

 8                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   May I ask 

 9   Senator Rivera a question?  

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

11   Rivera, do you yield?

12                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   I think I was 

13   paying attention closely, but I want to be sure.  

14   Did you say, as a New York City legislator, you 

15   are voting no on the extender?  

16                SENATOR RIVERA:   I am saying on 

17   this particular extender, because it is not -- 

18   because it is not a strengthening of rent 

19   regulation, the answer is yes.  As in I am voting 

20   in the negative on this bill.

21                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Would Senator 

22   Rivera respond to another question?  

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

24   Rivera, do you continue to yield?  

25                SENATOR RIVERA:   I yield.

                                                               4619

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   DeFran.

 3                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   And you're 

 4   voting no as a New York City legislator, knowing 

 5   that at 12:01 all the apartments of the people 

 6   that you're concerned about, 2.5 million people, 

 7   are going to be deregulated, and you're still 

 8   going to vote no?

 9                SENATOR RIVERA:   I'm going to vote 

10   no on this particular bill, Senator 

11   DeFrancisco -- through you, Mr. President -- 

12   because it is not -- because it is only a simple 

13   extender and it is not the strengthening that the 

14   folks in my district require.

15                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Would Senator 

16   Rivera answer one last question.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

18   Rivera, do you continue to yield?  

19                SENATOR RIVERA:   Yes, 

20   Mr. President.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   He does.

22                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   And based on 

23   that principled position you're taking, you would 

24   be willing to take the risk that the Republican 

25   side of this house would follow your lead and 

                                                               4620

 1   vote no on this bill for the same reasons you're 

 2   voting no and end up with not enough votes to 

 3   pass this extender?  And you'd still believe that 

 4   your position would be correct?  

 5                SENATOR RIVERA:   I believe that the 

 6   bill that we need to be voting on, Senator 

 7   DeFrancisco -- through you, Mr. President -- is 

 8   one that will truly protect the people in my 

 9   district, not only extending rent regulations but 

10   certainly strengthening them.

11                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Thank you.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Is there 

13   any other Senator wishing to be heard?

14                Seeing none, hearing none, debate is 

15   closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

16                Read the last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

23   DeFrancisco to explain his vote.

24                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes.  Rent 

25   control does not affect any of my residents.  But 

                                                               4621

 1   judging from the negative votes on the other side 

 2   of the aisle -- other than Senator Diaz, who 

 3   understands the practicality of the situation -- 

 4   if the other New York Senators on the other side 

 5   of the aisle don't think it's important to extend 

 6   for an additional period of time the 

 7   rent-regulation laws until a deal can be 

 8   resolved, then it certainly is fine with me.  

 9                And because of that, I'm taking the 

10   lead of the New York City delegation on the other 

11   side of the aisle and will vote no with Senator 

12   Rivera and everyone else.  Because apparently 

13   it's a very principled position, and I pride 

14   myself on being principled.  Thank you.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

16   DeFrancisco to be recorded in the negative.

17                I want to inform everybody that I 

18   will be strictly enforcing the two-minute 

19   explanation of votes.

20                Senator Hassell-Thompson.

21                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

22   you, Mr. President.  

23                I rise to vote no.  And you want to 

24   talk about practicality?  We had six months.  

25   What could we do in 38 hours that we could not do 

                                                               4622

 1   in six months?  We have been begging, we have had 

 2   residents come to these chambers every week since 

 3   January begging for us not to come to the 

 4   eleventh hour to do this action.  

 5                So if you can wave a magic wand in 

 6   36 hours and make something happen you couldn't 

 7   do in six months, all to the better.  But I will 

 8   be voting no.  I have promised my residents that 

 9   I would not vote for an extender that did not 

10   give them what they need to ensure their security 

11   in their apartments.  

12                Thank you, Mr. President.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

14   Hassell-Thompson to be recorded in the negative.

15                Please raise your hands again if 

16   you're voting in the negative so we can get an 

17   accurate accounting of the votes.

18                Senator Diaz to explain his vote.

19                SENATOR DIAZ:   Mr. President, I am 

20   voting yes because I know that at 12 midnight the 

21   clock will end, and I will not play this game 

22   with my constituents.  For me, it is better to 

23   extend it for three more days or two more days.  

24   They're not going to lose anything.  The same 

25   thing that they're having now, they're going to 

                                                               4623

 1   still have for two more days until we decide the 

 2   situation.  So I am not going to play this game.  

 3                And because I believe that whoever 

 4   wanted to help the community, they could have 

 5   done that during budget negotiations.  But the 

 6   Governor didn't want to put it in, and my 

 7   colleagues didn't want to include it in.  So now 

 8   I'm voting yes.  Because I'm responsible enough 

 9   to fight for my constituents and to be sure that 

10   they continue having, two more days, the rents 

11   until we decide otherwise.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Diaz to be recorded in the affirmative.

14                Senator Espaillat to explain his 

15   vote.

16                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Yes, 

17   Mr. President, to explain my vote.

18                This is not a game.  This is not 

19   trivial.  This is about the life of thousands of 

20   New Yorkers.  You know, and enough is enough.  

21   We've been through six months of this.  And 

22   tenants have come here on a daily basis.  Some of 

23   our colleagues got arrested in civil disobedience 

24   because of this.  We have continuously asked that 

25   we wanted to vote for a rent bill that will not 

                                                               4624

 1   only extend the laws, but will provide tenant 

 2   protection.  

 3                Enough is enough.  This is it.  You 

 4   know, we talked about this for six months.  We 

 5   talked about the perils of going until midnight 

 6   on June 15th.  And here we are.  This is not our 

 7   doing.  This is the machinations of other folks.  

 8   And that's why we're voting no tonight.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

10   Espaillat to be recorded in the negative.

11                Senator Martins to explain his vote.

12                SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.

14                I, as opposed to some of my 

15   colleagues in this chamber, do care about the 

16   residents of my district who do live under the 

17   protections afforded by rent regulation.  I do 

18   have residents in my district who rely on those 

19   regulations and will be relying on the extensions 

20   of these regulations as we work out the details 

21   of that which we're discussing here today.

22                But when we talk about 

23   strengthening, quote unquote, rent regulations, I 

24   find it ironic that the very same people who 

25   advocate for raising taxes on those who make more 

                                                               4625

 1   than $200,000 a year are now advocating for 

 2   protections for those people making $300,000 a 

 3   year paying $3,000 a month in rent.  And I would 

 4   suggest that everyone reevaluate their priorities 

 5   and think about the purpose of rent regulations 

 6   and those people who these regulations were meant 

 7   to protect, those people who are relying on these 

 8   rent regulations in order to make housing 

 9   accommodations for themselves and their 

10   families.  

11                Stop protecting the rich Manhattan 

12   and New York City residents and start protecting 

13   those people who these rent regulations were 

14   meant to protect.  Vote yes on this bill, extend 

15   it for three days, and work out these details.  

16   Have the courage of your own stated convictions.  

17                I'll be voting yes.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Martins to be recorded in the affirmative.

20                Senator Savino to explain her vote.

21                SENATOR SAVINO:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.

23                You know, most of you by now have 

24   known me for several years and you know I don't 

25   like to be out late at night.  I certainly like 

                                                               4626

 1   to be home in my bed by just about this time.  I 

 2   don't like political games.  And what I'm seeing 

 3   here happening tonight is the worst of the 

 4   political games, where both sides are pointing 

 5   fingers at each other about an issue that matters 

 6   to no less to million residents of the people of 

 7   the City of New York, if not more.  

 8                We can stand here and debate over 

 9   who's responsible, whether we had six months this 

10   year for you guys to figure it out or we had 

11   24 months when we were in charge for us to figure 

12   it out.  The reality is we are here with less 

13   than an hour before the rent regulations in the 

14   City of New York expire, affecting the lives of 

15   real New Yorkers.  We should be able to set aside 

16   our petty differences and at least extend this 

17   law for at least two more days.

18                Now, I don't believe that anybody in 

19   New York City is going to get thrown out in the 

20   street.  They all have leases.  But there is real 

21   anxiety on the part of tenants in the City of 

22   New York because they don't know what we're 

23   doing.  We have an obligation to them to allay 

24   those fears and tell them that while we may not 

25   have an agreement today, June 15th on the day 

                                                               4627

 1   that they're supposed to expire, that we're not 

 2   going to leave here, not this legislative 

 3   session, until we do have an agreement.  

 4                Now, I know we're all posturing.  

 5   You know, and it's cool.  We all love to do that 

 6   from time to time, to flex a little bit.  But we 

 7   have important issues that affect real people.  

 8   And we owe it to them to set aside that posturing 

 9   mentality just for this moment and let them know 

10   that while we don't have an agreement now, at 

11   this hour, ten minutes before the final hour, we 

12   will before we shut down this legislative 

13   session.  

14                And I have full faith that we will 

15   reach that agreement, because we know what's at 

16   stake.  It really is important.  And it doesn't 

17   matter who controls this chamber or who's in the 

18   Governor's office --

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

20   Savino, how do you vote?  

21                SENATOR SAVINO:   I vote yes on this 

22   bill, Senator Griffo.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

24   Savino to be recorded in the affirmative.

25                Senator Squadron to explain his 

                                                               4628

 1   vote.

 2                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.  

 4                You know, even if you don't have one 

 5   of the 2.5 million people whose homes depend on 

 6   these laws, you do care about these laws, or you 

 7   should.  Because if you love New York today, you 

 8   believe in rent regulation, because it is 

 9   fundamental to what New York City and the 

10   surrounding counties are today.  Close to 

11   25 percent of people in the City of New York live 

12   in rent regulation.  It is the city, and in many 

13   ways the city is the keystone of the state.  

14                And if you don't understand that, 

15   I'm not going to convince you in the next 

16   90 seconds.  And if you don't care, I've got a 

17   great idea for the other side.  There's a bill 

18   that will extend and expand rent regulation.  It 

19   is available to be voted on right now.  I am sure 

20   the Assembly would come back, with joy, tonight 

21   and vote on that bill, Senator Espaillat's 

22   omnibus bill.  

23                So if you don't care about this 

24   issue, if you have no tenants, then please pass 

25   the bill the New York State delegation really 

                                                               4629

 1   wants.  And if you have the vision and 

 2   understanding to care about this issue, pass the 

 3   bill that we need.  We have an hour and five 

 4   minutes left; let's pass Senator Espaillat's 

 5   omnibus.  Let's do it now and we won't have any 

 6   problem, any concern.  We won't have to come back 

 7   this Friday, and we'll have 2.5 million tenants 

 8   who will no longer have to live with harassment, 

 9   with fear of eviction.  That's what this is 

10   about.  

11      A.   I promised my constituents I would not 

12  vote for a bill that would require them to 

13  continue to live with the constant fear of 

14  harassment, with the constant knowledge of a 

15  potential false eviction around the corner.  

16  That's why I can't vote for this bill.  That's why 

17  we should stay tonight and pass Senator 

18  Espaillat's bill and go home knowing we have 

19  protected 2.5 million tenants, we have protected 

20  the City of New York, we have maintained the State 

21  of New York for what it should be.  

22      That's why I'm voting no, Mr. President.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

24   Squadron to be recorded in the negative.

25                Senator Klein to explain his vote.

                                                               4630

 1                SENATOR KLEIN:   Thank you, 

 2   Mr. President.

 3                I too rise in favor of this 

 4   extender.  And I think what I heard tonight so 

 5   far is sort of clouding the real issue.  

 6                What's before us now is an extender 

 7   to extend the rent regulations till Friday.  And 

 8   by voting no and not doing it this evening, what 

 9   we're doing is scaring tenants that they will no 

10   longer have rent protections, code enforcement, 

11   they will no longer have the warranty of 

12   habitability, everything that makes tenants safe 

13   in their apartment.

14                I also will say that it's very 

15   interesting now, when we had over two years to 

16   actually get stronger rent regulations, we chose 

17   not to do that.  We just dwelled on one issue, 

18   repealing vacancy decontrol, not worrying about 

19   the MCIs which cause tenants to pay higher rents, 

20   not making sure that tenants can have an 

21   affordable and clean apartment in my home county 

22   of the Bronx.  I guess when it's no longer a 

23   political issue, it's no longer the right issue.  

24                But I'm going to do the right thing 

25   tonight.  I'm going to vote to extend this 

                                                               4631

 1   rent-regulation package which is so important to 

 2   all of us until Friday.  I vote yes.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 4   Klein to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                Senator Perkins to explain his vote.

 6                SENATOR PERKINS:   Thank you very 

 7   much.

 8                You know, I want to first express my 

 9   appreciation to Senator Espaillat for the 

10   extraordinary leadership that he has provided 

11   over the last few months in terms of providing 

12   the people of the City and the State of New York 

13   with what they want, what they have indicated 

14   that they want, in the most simple and eloquent 

15   way possible.  

16                You know, I don't know where these 

17   $300,000 people are living that have been 

18   referenced earlier, but they don't live in my 

19   district, which has over 68,000 residents that 

20   live in rent-stabilized, rent-controlled homes.  

21   In fact, quite the opposite.  I represent not 

22   only Harlem, I represent the Upper West Side, 

23   Morningside Heights, Washington Heights, 

24   East Harlem and parts of Inwood.  And for the 

25   most part, those are regular working-class 

                                                               4632

 1   families who are going to suffer severely as a 

 2   result of this kind of gamesmanship, brinkmanship 

 3   that is taking place.  

 4                There are those who say that they 

 5   have heard from tenants.  Well, I know I've heard 

 6   from tenants.  And on their behalf I spent a few 

 7   hours in jail to make sure that their voices were 

 8   well-represented.  This is not what they want.  

 9   They do not want an extender.  They want the 

10   Espaillat bill.  And an extender is an insult and 

11   smack in the face as far as they are concerned.  

12                So if in fact there are some of us 

13   here who really want to do something on behalf of 

14   those people that I represent, on behalf of the 

15   other 1.2 million that are a part of the larger 

16   universe, then vote for the Espaillat bill.  

17   Let's stop the gamesmanship, let's stop the 

18   brinkmanship.  We can do this and we can go home 

19   and those folks can be relieved of the games that 

20   are being played at this point in time.

21                So I'm voting against this because 

22   that's what the people in my district, the people 

23   that I represent have told me in no uncertain 

24   words:  Do not vote for an extender, vote for the 

25   Espaillat bill.

                                                               4633

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Perkins to be recorded in the negative.

 3                Senator Krueger to explain her vote.

 4                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.

 6                No posturing.  You're hearing it 

 7   from many of my colleagues, the tenants of 

 8   New York City are loud and clear.  A straight 

 9   extender is not acceptable.  The game of playing 

10   things out to the last minute moved us backwards 

11   in 1997 and 2003.  

12                The good news is there is no tenant 

13   who has to fear that they lose their apartment if 

14   we don't get an extender for the next two days.  

15   There will be no immediate expiration.  In 1997, 

16   the laws expired for five days and then were 

17   reinstated retroactively.  In 2003, we did a 

18   series of one-day extenders; they were 

19   irrelevant.

20                What's not irrelevant is the 

21   commitment of the Democratic members of this 

22   chamber to making sure that people hear that we 

23   must be strengthening the laws.  We lost hundreds 

24   of thousands of units because bad decisions were 

25   made in 2003 and in 1997.  The Governor said it 

                                                               4634

 1   himself earlier, it doesn't matter whether 

 2   midnight comes and goes, what matters is that we 

 3   get a stronger protective bill for housing for 

 4   New York City.  And he has made it clear that he 

 5   is committed to getting that done.  

 6                And I think we are committed to 

 7   staying here to get it done also.  But not 

 8   through a game of straight extenders.  I vote 

 9   no.  Thank you.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

11   Krueger to be recorded in the negative.

12                Senator Nozzolio to explain his 

13   vote.

14                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Mr. President, I 

15   wish to thank every member of the Democratic 

16   caucus who's voting against this measure, because 

17   ending rent control is something I believe should 

18   have happened for years.  So I really want to 

19   thank you for voting against this extender and 

20   hopefully ending this socialistic program that 

21   began in the droves of World War II and that is 

22   now --

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Order 

24   (gaveling).

25                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   -- one of the 

                                                               4635

 1   most government-controlled economic enterprises 

 2   in this country.  

 3                And any of you who are trying to 

 4   defend those who make $300,000 or more a year so 

 5   that their apartments can be rent-controlled, 

 6   just come on upstate.  I'd like to show you the 

 7   affordable housing that we have in upstate 

 8   New York, where senior citizens who make less 

 9   than $18,000, $20,000 a year have no such thing 

10   as a government-controlled, rent-controlled 

11   apartment.

12                I want to thank you for ending 

13   socialism in this great State of New York.

14                (Laughter.)

15                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Mr. President, I 

16   vote with my Democratic colleagues against rent 

17   control.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Nozzolio to be recorded in the negative.

20                Senator Parker to explain his vote.

21                SENATOR PARKER:   To explain my 

22   vote, Mr. President.  I see that we are --

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

24   before Senator Parker, if you'd just indulge me 

25   for a second.

                                                               4636

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Libous.

 3                SENATOR LIBOUS:   You know, I think 

 4   everybody has something to say.  I want to hear 

 5   what Senator Parker says.  Members need to be 

 6   respectful of their colleagues, whether you agree 

 7   or disagree.  There's a lot of noise going on.  

 8                Mr. President, thank you.  Senator 

 9   Parker, I am very interested in hearing what you 

10   have to say.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

12   Parker to explain his vote.

13                SENATOR PARKER:   To explain my 

14   vote, Mr. President.  Thank you, Senator Libous.

15                It seems like we are participating 

16   in some revisionist history tonight, and that's 

17   okay.  You know, we forget -- and how many have 

18   we had, six months or in some cases two years or 

19   three years to get this.  We've actually had 

20   eight years, because since 2003 when we passed 

21   this bad bill, we knew that this day was coming.  

22                Let's not forget that the 

23   Republicans were in charge when we in fact passed 

24   two bad bills and walked out of here the last day 

25   of session in 2003.  All right?  So this has been 

                                                               4637

 1   something that's been mounting.  And we've had 

 2   lots of opportunities.  So if anybody is afraid 

 3   of scaring tenants, we've been scaring tenants 

 4   the whole year.  And now all of a sudden we wait 

 5   until the very, very last moment.  

 6                But I want to thank Senator Krueger 

 7   for setting the record straight about the fact 

 8   that there is no fear, that in fact we do have a 

 9   couple of days.  And certainly the 38 hours which 

10   this bill would have covered, you know, will be a 

11   fine period for us to figure it out.  And the 

12   Governor has done that.

13                But let's get to the real point.  

14   This is a three-way deal between the Republicans, 

15   the Governor, and the Assembly.  Where are your 

16   votes?  You pass stuff in this house every single 

17   day without a Democratic vote.  And so how come 

18   your members aren't here if you in fact had a 

19   deal to do the extender?  Why are we here 

20   incumbent upon carrying your water when in fact 

21   you were the ones who could have brought Senator 

22   Espaillat's bill to the floor any day starting 

23   January 2nd?  

24                And so as Senator Squadron has 

25   indicated, we'll stay here as long as we need to 

                                                               4638

 1   to pass Senator Espaillat's bill.  Let's pass it 

 2   today.  Let's give the tenants of New York City 

 3   what they need and what will be best for the 

 4   people of the State of New York, and then let's 

 5   continue that kind of socialism.  

 6                But the socialism we ought to stop 

 7   is all the corporate welfare that we got going on 

 8   in this state.  So being real and start -- and 

 9   we'll start with the farm subsidies.  And 

10   although I think the farmers are important and I 

11   want to help them --

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Parker.

14                SENATOR PARKER:   If we're going to 

15   have -- if we're going to stop subsidies --

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

17   Parker, how do you vote?  

18                SENATOR PARKER:   I vote no on this 

19   bill, and I vote yes for some socialism, 

20   particularly --

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

22   Parker to be recorded in the negative.

23                Senator Marcellino to explain his 

24   vote.  

25                I'm going to remind the members you 

                                                               4639

 1   have a two-minute explanation period.  And I will 

 2   maintain order in the chamber.  Respect the 

 3   rulings of the chair, please.

 4                Senator Marcellino.

 5                SENATOR MARCELLINO:   Mr. President, 

 6   I intend to vote aye.  I have residents in my 

 7   district who are dependent upon this 

 8   legislation.  If we need another 36, whatever 

 9   hours it takes to come to a reasonable 

10   conclusion, I think we should take it, come to a 

11   reasonable conclusion, resolve the issues the way 

12   we can, and without playing silly games back and 

13   forth.  Let's just do it right.  

14                We need 36 hours to come to a 

15   decision.  Let's take the 36 hours on behalf of 

16   the landlords and on behalf of the tenants who 

17   need this time.  I vote aye.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Marcellino to be recorded in the affirmative.

20                Senator Serrano to explain his vote.

21                SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you very 

22   much, Mr. President.

23                My remarks are not intended to 

24   further divide this chamber.  In actuality, I 

25   think I believe that this issue is something that 

                                                               4640

 1   all sides can agree upon.  

 2                When you consider that the vast 

 3   majority of people who live in lent regulated 

 4   apartments, the average income is $36,000 a 

 5   year -- these are disabled families.  These are 

 6   disabled individuals.  These are working 

 7   families.  These are the elderly.  And also, 

 8   people who live in rent-regulated apartments in 

 9   many ways are the underpinnings, the financial 

10   engine, the economic engine for the City of 

11   New York, the tax base which benefits not only 

12   the five boroughs of New York City but actually 

13   the entire state of the New York, because the 

14   economy is interlinked.

15                So really, I don't see why there 

16   needs to be two sides and these horrible attacks 

17   that I'm hearing here tonight.  This is very 

18   clear.  When you protect vulnerable individuals 

19   who are also the tax base, that are also the 

20   people who are providing those jobs, that are 

21   doing those jobs.  That are so critical for the 

22   City and for the State of New York -- they're the 

23   ones raising families, they are the ones trying 

24   to achieve the American dream.  These are new 

25   immigrants.  These are the people who founded 

                                                               4641

 1   this nation.  This is that next generation.  

 2                And when you consider the chronic 

 3   underfunding of NYCHA, the loss of Mitchell-Lama 

 4   as we know it, and now these horrible 

 5   rent-regulation laws that are expiring and we're 

 6   not strengthening them, we will have a City of 

 7   New York that is completely unaffordable.  So 

 8   where will the tax base be?  Where will the 

 9   working families be?  

10                So I think it's of critical 

11   importance that we come together on this, stop 

12   fighting about it, come together about this, 

13   realize that this is good for all sides.  The 

14   business community benefits greatly from strong 

15   rent regulations because where are the customers 

16   going to be if they can't live in New York City?  

17                Let's be smart about this.  I think 

18   this extender is not the way to go, and I'll be 

19   voting in the negative, Mr. President.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

21   Serrano to be recorded in the negative.

22                Senator Young to explain her vote.

23                SENATOR YOUNG:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.

25                I think what the other side may not 

                                                               4642

 1   understand is that there are true philosophical 

 2   differences between how we view rent control and 

 3   how you view it.  And, you know, on this side of 

 4   the aisle we believe in private property rights, 

 5   we believe in free market enterprise, we believe 

 6   in a growing economy.  And so because of those 

 7   reasons, we have issues with rent control.  

 8                You on the other side have always 

 9   said that you need it.  And Senator Serrano just 

10   talked about the fact that there are a lot of 

11   people in rent-controlled apartments who make 

12   $36,000 a year.  Now, Senator Espaillat talks 

13   about his omnibus bill, which actually would 

14   raise -- you talk about strengthening rent 

15   control?  Think about what you're doing.  Because 

16   what you're actually doing is helping the 

17   wealthy.  

18                So you're holding out tonight and 

19   voting against people who actually make $36,000 a 

20   year because you want to abet in a rational 

21   system and help people who are rich.  Help people 

22   who are rich.  And so you're throwing people 

23   under the bus who make $36,000 a year, maybe 

24   less.  So you're voting against those people.  

25   I'm very surprised by this.  

                                                               4643

 1                But I have to say that study after 

 2   study has shown that rent control actually 

 3   depresses the housing market.  It actually avoids 

 4   private investors from building more affordable 

 5   housing.  So, you know, on this side of the 

 6   aisle, if we got rid of rent control, that would 

 7   be fine with us.  

 8                And here you are tonight voting 

 9   along with us.  I'm very surprised by it, but I'm 

10   very pleased by it too.  So I want to thank you.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

12   Young, how do you vote?  

13                SENATOR YOUNG:   I vote no.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

15   Young to be recorded in the negative.

16                Is there any other Senator that 

17   wishes to explain their votes?

18                I then call upon Senator Skelos to 

19   complete the explanation of voting.

20                SENATOR SKELOS:   Thank you very 

21   much, Mr. President.

22                I respect everybody that's voting no 

23   on this side of the aisle, the Republican side, 

24   because Democrats are once again setting the 

25   example of hypocrisy.

                                                               4644

 1                Now, I've said all along that I 

 2   favor the extension of rent regulations.  That's 

 3   why I'm voting yes to continue rent regulations 

 4   today.  

 5                Now, where I live on the island some 

 6   of my constituents do have rent-regulated 

 7   apartments.  But I also have an awful lot of 

 8   people in my district that own homes that are 

 9   struggling to make their mortgage payments and 

10   their property tax payments, and nobody's coming 

11   into them and saying, We're going to cut your 

12   mortgage in half, we're going to eliminate your 

13   property taxes.  It's not happening.  So they're 

14   working hard to make ends meet.  

15                And what would we do if somebody in 

16   any part of the state -- and there was a need for 

17   affordable housing?  What do we do if your house 

18   is worth $400,000?  Do you say, We need 

19   affordable housing, you can only get $200,000 for 

20   it?  Is this what this is about?  There is a 

21   thing called personal and private property.

22                Now, I've said all along that we 

23   will be willing to extend rent regulations, and I 

24   mean that.  I talked to the Governor, he sent 

25   this bill up, and I said with the support of the 

                                                               4645

 1   Democrats we would pass it.  But obviously you're 

 2   not looking to have this passed and you're 

 3   looking to kill rent regulations in New York 

 4   City.  And if that's the decision you're going to 

 5   make, we'll join you in that decision.  We'll 

 6   join you in that decision.

 7                So, Mr. President, I'm going to keep 

 8   my word that I said I believe in extending rent 

 9   regulations, and I am going to vote yes.  But 

10   again, it's amazing to me how in certain 

11   districts in some of the areas that are 

12   represented by some of the Senators on the 

13   Democrat side of the aisle, that you're defending 

14   legislation such as passed the Assembly that 

15   wealthy individuals who live in Senator Krueger's 

16   district who are making -- that they'd be 

17   protected if they're making $300,000 a year and 

18   their rent is $3,000 a month?  That's who you're 

19   protecting?  My God, that's unbelievable, that 

20   you want to protect those rich people.  But when 

21   it comes to income taxes or surcharges, $200,000 

22   is considered wealthy.

23                So -- and I say this respectfully 

24   when I say there's a lot of hypocrisy here this 

25   evening on the Democrat side of the aisle.  I 

                                                               4646

 1   can't say that about Senator Diaz, because 

 2   Senator Diaz is always right when he speaks.  Or 

 3   most of the time.

 4                (Laughter.)

 5                SENATOR SKELOS:   But, 

 6   Mr. President, I intend to vote aye.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 8   Skelos in the affirmative.

 9                Announce the results.

10                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11   Calendar Number 1268, those recorded in the 

12   negative are Senators Adams, Addabbo, Alesi, 

13   Avella, Ball, Breslin, DeFrancisco, Dilan, Duane, 

14   Espaillat, Farley, Flanagan, Gallivan, Gianaris, 

15   Griffo, Grisanti, Hassell-Thompson, Huntley, 

16   Johnson, Kennedy, L. Krueger, Larkin, LaValle, 

17   Libous, Maziarz, Montgomery, Nozzolio, O'Mara, 

18   Oppenheimer, Parker, Peralta, Perkins, 

19   Ranzenhofer, Ritchie, Rivera, Sampson, Serrano, 

20   Seward, Squadron, Stavisky, Stewart-Cousins, 

21   Young, and Zeldin.

22                Absent from voting:  Senators 

23   Bonacic, C. Kruger, McDonald, Saland, and Smith.  

24                Ayes, 14.  Nays, 43.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

                                                               4647

 1   is defeated.

 2                Senator Libous.

 3                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Could we now go to 

 4   the controversial reading of Calendar Number 53 

 5   and take it up with Senator Nozzolio at -- I 

 6   think it's Calendar Number 410.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 8   Secretary will read.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   410, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 476A, an 

11   act to amend the Correction Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                SENATOR SQUADRON:   Explanation.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   An 

16   explanation has been requested by Senator 

17   Squadron.  

18                Again, I'm going to ask for some 

19   order in the house.

20                Senator Squadron has asked for an 

21   explanation, Senator Nozzolio.

22                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

25   Nozzolio, one second, please.  {Gaveling.} 

                                                               4648

 1                Senator Nozzolio.

 2                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.

 4                Mr. President and my colleagues.  

 5   Calendar Number 410, S476A, creates a process to 

 6   save the state taxpayers' dollars in the provision 

 7   of medical treatment for the thousands of inmates 

 8   now incarcerated in state correctional facilities 

 9   and county correctional facilities across 

10   New York State.  This is again an opportunity for 

11   this government, this state government and 

12   particularly the New York State Legislature, to 

13   save taxpayers' funds.

14                Each inmate in the state system 

15   under this provision will be required to 

16   establish a modest medical copayment, a copayment 

17   that is modeled after copayments required of 

18   prison inmates in the entire federal prison 

19   system, prison inmates in the neighboring states 

20   of New Jersey, Pennsylvania, as well as the large 

21   state of California.  A number of states have 

22   established this, and that we believe it's an 

23   opportunity to save some taxpayers dollars by 

24   providing a modest copayment posted to inmates' 

25   accounts.  

                                                               4649

 1                I should indicate rapidly that no 

 2   inmate in our state system shall be refused 

 3   treatment for the lack of ability to pay for 

 4   their copayment charges.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

 6   you, Senator Nozzolio.

 7                Senator Rivera.

 8                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.  Would the sponsor yield for a few 

10   questions.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

12   Nozzolio, do you yield for a few questions?  

13                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Yes, 

14   Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

16   Rivera.

17                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.  Through you.

19                Senator Nozzolio, what is the 

20   pressing need to have incarcerated individuals 

21   pay for their medical expenses?  What is the main 

22   thrust, really, of the legislation?  

23                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   This provision 

24   has been proffered in an attempt to save 

25   taxpayers dollars.  That in these hard economic 

                                                               4650

 1   times, every aspect of state expenditure should 

 2   be analyzed.  

 3                That there is a dual system of 

 4   medical treatment.  We think it's an equitable 

 5   situation to have a modest copayment for county 

 6   correctional inmates, state correctional 

 7   inmates -- again, modeled after the federal 

 8   system.  The federal government has established 

 9   this.  The Obama administration has allowed this 

10   to happen, and that in effect we believe New York 

11   is foolhardy to not take advantage of the 

12   opportunity to save dollars.

13                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

15   yield.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

17   sponsor yields.

18                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Yes, 

19   Mr. President.

20                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.

22                I think we can both agree, Senator 

23   Nozzolio, that the federal policies are not 

24   always the ones that we should follow in the 

25   state.

                                                               4651

 1                Let me ask you a further question.  

 2   How much revenue would this bring to the state 

 3   each year?

 4                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Mr. President, 

 5   if I may, I'm having trouble hearing 

 6   Senator Rivera.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   I do 

 8   admonish the chamber once again.  I know it's 

 9   been a long day, but please let's respect the two 

10   members who are engaged in debate.  Thank you 

11   very much.

12                Senator Nozzolio.

13                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   In response to 

14   Senator Rivera's question about savings, that we 

15   believe that it would save in the range of 

16   $5 million to $10 million a year.  

17                Based on the fact that inmates, as I 

18   have visited many of the correctional facilities, 

19   told by the officers and other correctional 

20   employees who work at those facilities that many 

21   times sick call is used as a form of sport 

22   recreation and hobby, to break the day-to-day 

23   prison routine.  

24                And that we're not saying anyone 

25   should be denied medical treatment.  We're saying 

                                                               4652

 1   that a modest copayment would in fact raise 

 2   revenue from those who can afford it, those 

 3   inmates who have resources.  

 4                Also, it would stop the utilization 

 5   of -- or I should say misuse of services when 

 6   inmate the utilize sick call as an opportunity to 

 7   simply break the day-to-day routine.  That we 

 8   believe also there's a certain equity here, where 

 9   each and every one of our constituents who is 

10   lucky enough, fortunate enough in their lives to 

11   have medical insurance, those constituents that 

12   are taxpayers have to have a modest copayment -- 

13   in some cases, not so modest, depending on the 

14   type of health insurance they have.  

15                Why have a system that the taxpayers 

16   must pay for in terms of their own health 

17   insurance and also the medical treatment of 

18   inmates who are -- in effect, could be utilized 

19   in another way.

20                And just one last thing.  And thank 

21   you for your patience, Senator Rivera, in the 

22   long answer here.  But yes, the federal 

23   government is not something that should be always 

24   followed, emulated.  But certainly other states 

25   have also adopted this system, states that are 

                                                               4653

 1   our neighbors, states that are saving funds as a 

 2   result.

 3                So thank you, Senator Rivera, for 

 4   the opportunity to discuss that portion of your 

 5   inquiry.

 6                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

 7   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

 8   yield.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

10   sponsor yields.

11                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Yes, 

12   Mr. President.

13                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  

15                I did hear, Senator Nozzolio, you 

16   talked about savings.  I would ask you to also, 

17   if there is any revenue that's involved, if 

18   there's any revenue that the state would make, if 

19   you could add this to the next answer to this 

20   question as far as where the copayment would come 

21   from.  And, if it comes from an individual's 

22   account, how exactly would it work.  

23                So could you explain that to me and 

24   also clarify the revenue question as opposed to 

25   savings question.

                                                               4654

 1                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Yes, 

 2   Mr. President.  Senator Rivera is asking about 

 3   the inmate account system.  

 4                Each inmate in the state prison 

 5   system has their individual account.  The 

 6   custodianship is the Department of Corrections.  

 7   That account, as inmates are not to have cash on 

 8   their possession for a variety of reasons, that 

 9   the account is a bank account within their 

10   custodianship of the Corrections Department.  Any 

11   copayment would be extracted from that inmate 

12   account.

13                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  If through you the sponsor would 

15   continue to yield.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

17   sponsor yields.

18                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Yes, 

19   Mr. President.

20                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.

22                I still would like clarification on 

23   the issue of revenues.  But so it is an account 

24   that each incarcerated individual has.  And what 

25   else is this account used for?  Through you, 

                                                               4655

 1   Mr. President.

 2                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   An inmate's 

 3   accounts are utilized, Mr. President, for 

 4   inmates' personal expenses, expenses to purchase 

 5   goods at the commissary.  By the way, that's 

 6   another one of my legislative measures.  I 

 7   believe that the commissaries in our prison 

 8   facilities should charge inmates sales tax, 

 9   because the inmates pay no sales tax now.  

10                But other things that the inmates 

11   may be allowed to purchase during the course of 

12   their incarceration can be extracted from their 

13   individual account.

14                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

15   Mr. President, if the sponsor would yield for one 

16   more question.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Would you 

18   yield for an additional question?

19                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Yes, 

20   Mr. President.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

22   Nozzolio yields, Senator Rivera.

23                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.

25                You clarified that as far as medical 

                                                               4656

 1   treatment for an individual, that they would 

 2   never be denied.  What if an individual could not 

 3   pay -- the bill, I believe, says that they would 

 4   not be denied medical treatment.  But how would 

 5   you ensure that this is the case?

 6                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   That, 

 7   Mr. President, again, the treatment is provided 

 8   prior to that determination.  In effect, the 

 9   inmate is required under this legislation to log 

10   in when they are making a visit for medical 

11   purposes.  That log will be evaluated each and 

12   every month, and the inmate's account will be 

13   deducted for those modest copayments as a 

14   result.  

15                That if it is determined that the 

16   inmate does not have sufficient resources in 

17   their account, of course the services would have 

18   already been provided.

19                Again, Mr. President, this is not a 

20   unique process.  This is not a punitive process.  

21   This is a process that the Department of 

22   Corrections that the federal Bureau of Prisons 

23   utilizes.  It's a process that other states 

24   utilize.  Let's have New York get into the 

25   opportunity zone here to actually save some money 

                                                               4657

 1   and be competitive with other states.  That's 

 2   what the motive for this measure is all about.

 3                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.  On the bill.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   Rivera on the bill.

 7                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, Senator 

 8   Nozzolio, for answering a few questions.  

 9                This is a bill that we have clashed 

10   in the Crime Victims, Crime and Corrections 

11   Committee about.  I will be voting in the 

12   negative on this piece of legislation for a 

13   couple of different reasons.  

14                Incarcerated individuals make very 

15   little income to begin with.  They have these 

16   accounts that they use, as Senator Nozzolio 

17   indicated, for their personal needs, for things 

18   they might be able to get at the commissary.  

19   What we are talking about here is -- I disagree 

20   strongly with Senator Nozzolio that this is not a 

21   further punitive measure.  You have incarcerated 

22   individuals.  They have already had their freedom 

23   taken away from them.  And now we are adding onto 

24   that the only account they have available to them 

25   for personal hygiene products, that is being 

                                                               4658

 1   taken away from them, slowly but surely.  

 2                For example, if there is an 

 3   individual that has a chronic condition that he 

 4   or she may have to manage, such as asthma, they 

 5   might have to go continuously back to receive 

 6   medical services, and it might be a situation 

 7   that they can't really stop.  

 8                Now, while I accept that there might 

 9   be situations where there might be individuals 

10   that are taking advantage of the situation, I 

11   would posit that it is a minority and that we 

12   should not be making policy that is going to 

13   impact negatively, across the board, what amounts 

14   to thousands of incarcerated individuals that are 

15   already being punished for their crimes.  Now 

16   they would be further punished by having, 

17   potentially, their small, limited bank account be 

18   drained and taken away.

19                I do not believe that this is the 

20   correct way to proceed in this instance.  I 

21   strongly oppose this measure.  And I ask my 

22   colleagues if they would do the same.  I will be 

23   voting in the negative for this bill.  Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

                                                               4659

 1   Rivera to be recorded in the negative.

 2                Senator Robach.

 3                SENATOR ROBACH:   Yes, 

 4   Mr. President.  I want to rise to applaud Senator 

 5   Nozzolio for this very, I think, necessary and 

 6   logical approach to this.  In all candor, I 

 7   probably would be in favor of this on the 

 8   ideology.  But I think in today's time I hope 

 9   everybody will pause and think about it for a 

10   minute.  

11                We have inmates who first of all 

12   don't pay sales tax, have no responsibility for 

13   healthcare, really anything that goes on in 

14   there, which I don't think is a good system to 

15   begin with, where you have it a little bit better 

16   on the inside, in some ways, than you would on 

17   the outside, at least in terms of money.  Not 

18   that jail is a good place.

19                But then I think we're in a little 

20   different time now.  So I applaud Senator 

21   Nozzolio for trying to implement what the federal 

22   government and other states have done.  Here we 

23   are having to struggle to fund programs for 

24   people who haven't victimized anybody, haven't 

25   violated anybody, on very important things from 

                                                               4660

 1   education to everything else.  Why not make these 

 2   people whose families could also put money in 

 3   their accounts, as well as their in-house 

 4   programs that are paid for for what they do, to 

 5   give them a little skin in the game, let them pay 

 6   little bit back?  

 7                I think we could put that money to 

 8   good use, I think we all agree on that, to 

 9   something better.  Let them have a little skin in 

10   the game.  I think it makes all the sense in the 

11   world.  We've even had to cut our own operation 

12   10 percent in last year's budget.  We're all 

13   participating.  Let's let the inmates in the 

14   State of New York participate and help in these 

15   tough times too.  

16                I'm going to vote in the 

17   affirmative, and I would encourage my colleagues 

18   to do the same.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

20   you, Senator Robach.

21                Senator Stewart-Cousins.

22                SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   Yes, 

23   would the sponsor yield for a question.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

25   Nozzolio, do you yield?  

                                                               4661

 1                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   I'd be happy to 

 2   yield, Mr. President.  

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 4   Senator yields.

 5                SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   Thank 

 6   you, Senator.

 7                I think that one of the questions 

 8   that I asked when we discussed this in Finance 

 9   was what the statistics are.  I know that you 

10   said that you believe that this happens a lot.  

11   But is there a percentage?  Is it 10 percent of 

12   the inmates that pretend they're ill, 20 percent, 

13   30 percent?  Do you have any idea?

14                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Mr. President, 

15   in response to the Senator's question, it depends 

16   on who you ask.  That the correction officers who 

17   are often charged with managing a typical sick 

18   call will tell you that a very high percentage, 

19   well over 60 percent of those who are getting 

20   sick call, are there to avoid the daily routine 

21   as opposed to being bona-fidely ill.

22                Now, that's anecdotal.  It's not a 

23   statistic.  I don't believe that there is any 

24   empirical data in response to the Senator's 

25   question.  But I do think that just look at what 

                                                               4662

 1   other states are doing, just look what the 

 2   federal system is doing.  They're not doing it by 

 3   accident.  They're establishing this system 

 4   because they know it saves money and it's the 

 5   right thing to do.

 6                SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   Thank 

 7   you, Senator.  Just on the bill.  Thank you, 

 8   Senator.  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

10   Stewart-Cousins on the bill.

11                SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   I'm going 

12   to vote no because I think we can find that 

13   information.  I think that the prison population 

14   is obviously being treated by someone, and there 

15   has to be records.  I think that we can probably 

16   do something to find out how many people are 

17   abusing the system and how many people are ill.

18                I think until we can substantiate 

19   that there is this rampant fraud, again, I'll be 

20   voting no, in the hopes that we can get some real 

21   data.  Thank you.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Is there 

23   any other Senator wishing to be heard?

24                Senator Adams.

25                SENATOR ADAMS:   First of all, so I 

                                                               4663

 1   understand, who's behind here that I should tell 

 2   when I want to speak?  Because I told you I 

 3   wanted to speak.  

 4                Did you let him know I wanted to 

 5   speak?  Okay.  I just want to make sure I'm 

 6   telling the right person when I want to speak.  I 

 7   don't want to be ignored.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator, 

 9   we're doing our best to acknowledge everyone.

10                SENATOR ADAMS:   Okay.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   All 

12   right?

13                SENATOR ADAMS:   All right.  Would 

14   the sponsor --

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So in the 

16   future, Senator Adams, just raise your hand or 

17   let the desk know and you'll be recognized.

18                SENATOR ADAMS:   Okay.  And I 

19   thought I did that, so I want to who behind, so I 

20   know I'm talking to the right person.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Somebody 

22   will see you, Senator Adams.

23                SENATOR ADAMS:   Okay.  Would the 

24   sponsor yield for a question?  

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

                                                               4664

 1   sponsor yields, Senator Adams.

 2                SENATOR ADAMS:   Yeah, Senator 

 3   Nozzolio, I just want to understand.  If the 

 4   individual is -- if a family puts money into the 

 5   person's commissary, is that money also taken out 

 6   to pay for the medical expenses?  

 7                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Mr. President, 

 8   as I understand Senator Adams's question -- and 

 9   again, I appreciate the opportunity to discuss 

10   this matter with Senator Adams, a former ranking 

11   member of the Corrections Committee.  As we've 

12   discussed this in the past, Senator, it is an 

13   account that the Department of Corrections has 

14   authorization of and custodianship of.  It's a 

15   trust account that is maintained for each and 

16   every prison inmate in our state system.  

17                Whatever deposits are in that 

18   account, it is within the custodianship and the 

19   trust agreement of the Department of Corrections 

20   in their management of that account.  And it's up 

21   to the inmate to decide what they want to spend 

22   money on.  That money, though, is of course -- 

23   expenditures are limited.  Certain items can be 

24   acquired within the facility, some payments 

25   utilized.  But the fact of the matter is that 

                                                               4665

 1   account is the inmate's and managed for the 

 2   inmate's purposes.

 3                SENATOR ADAMS:   Thank you.

 4                On the bill.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   Adams on the bill.

 7                SENATOR ADAMS:   First, I just want 

 8   to say people that are in jail, they do bad 

 9   things.  And I don't subscribe to the belief that 

10   people who are incarcerated are people who are 

11   just down on their luck.  They committed crimes, 

12   and they're in jail because they committed 

13   crimes.  

14                And I believe that if people outside 

15   of the correctional facility have to pay for 

16   their healthcare, I believe people who are 

17   incarcerated should contribute to their 

18   healthcare just as well.  I don't subscribe to 

19   the theory that if we are telling every 

20   New Yorker, every American that you have to do 

21   more and give more, that those who are inside 

22   correctional facilities should not subscribe to 

23   that same theory.  

24                And one of the worst things you can 

25   do is to have someone in any state, either 

                                                               4666

 1   incarcerated or free, receiving any form of 

 2   benefit without giving back.  That instills bad 

 3   habits, bad behavior, and that instills bad 

 4   principles.

 5                I think that this bill is an 

 6   excellent idea.  I think that my only concern and 

 7   reluctancy on voting for the bill is if an 

 8   outside family member contributes to a commissary 

 9   for particular hygiene items, I don't believe -- 

10   I don't know if that's the right thing to tax 

11   that amount.  But whatever the inmate is doing in 

12   employment inside the facility, if he's being 

13   employed inside the facility and he's paid and it 

14   goes into the commissary, he should pay for part 

15   of his healthcare.  I believe that he should pay 

16   for part of his healthcare just as we ask every 

17   other American to pay for part of their 

18   healthcare, particularly during a period of time 

19   where there's now an obligation that every 

20   American has health benefits.

21                So I applaud this bill.  I am not 

22   comfortable with voting for this bill only 

23   because the component that you just explained to 

24   me that the individual -- if a family member put 

25   into the commissary, that that money is going 

                                                               4667

 1   into the -- they're paying for it.  But I think 

 2   the concept is the right concept.  

 3                I think that those individuals who 

 4   are incarcerated have an obligation to pay for 

 5   their healthcare, and they have an obligation to 

 6   make sure that that healthcare that they need is 

 7   paid for and they have an obligation not to abuse 

 8   the healthcare system.  And very few people, if 

 9   any, are inside our correctional facilities 

10   because they did something nice.  Particularly 

11   when you're in state prisons.  

12                You don't go to state prisons for 

13   jaywalking.  You don't go to state prisons 

14   because you failed to pay a summons.  If you are 

15   in a state prison, more than likely you committed 

16   a serious felonious act.  And the worst thing we 

17   can do is do condone that behavior by giving 

18   someone free medical attention.  I don't 

19   subscribe to that.  I don't believe that.  

20                But I am hoping that if another 

21   version of this bill is done where -- that we're 

22   dealing with just taxing the individual based on 

23   the money they're making from being incarcerated, 

24   I can strongly support that bill.  I can't 

25   support it in this version.  And I just wanted to 

                                                               4668

 1   be clear on why I couldn't support it in this 

 2   version.  

 3                Thank you, Mr. President.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 5   Hassell-Thompson.

 6                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

 7   you, Mr. President.

 8                I think almost every year since I've 

 9   been here, that this bill has come to the floor.  

10   And at the end of my statement, I'll make it at 

11   the beginning, I will not be voting for this bill 

12   again.

13                In part because it's not clear to me 

14   that someone who has problems with migraine, goes 

15   to the infirmary for an aspirin should pay $7, as 

16   opposed to -- you know, and there's no sliding 

17   scale in terms of what you will pay.  They will 

18   pay a copay.  And a copay based on what?  And 

19   that's a part of what this bill has never been 

20   clear to me.  I think I remember, Senator 

21   Nozzolio, that you were setting a fee of $7 for 

22   these payments.  

23                But I also know, as you very well 

24   know, that many of our incarcerated people have 

25   HIV and AIDS, have many other debilitating 

                                                               4669

 1   conditions, have the inability to work.  So 

 2   because they can't work, who makes those 

 3   copayments?

 4                And so because these have never been 

 5   issues that have been made clear to me, I have to 

 6   continue to vote no.  As somebody who visits 

 7   prisons on a very regular basis, trust me, not 

 8   everybody in prison is healthy.  And the kind of 

 9   care that we continue to talk about, the fact 

10   that people come home with infectious diseases, 

11   come home with a drug addiction -- you know, we 

12   live in the real world, and these are the kind of 

13   conditions that a lot of our inmates are 

14   experiencing.

15                And so until we can resolve some of 

16   those issues, Senator Nozzolio, I will always be 

17   voting no on this bill.  

18                Thank you, Mr. President.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

20   you.

21                Senator Montgomery.  

22                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Yes, 

23   Mr. President, thank you.  I would just like to 

24   ask if Senator Nozzolio would yield for a 

25   question, a couple of questions.

                                                               4670

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Nozzolio, do you yield?  

 3                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Yes, certainly, 

 4   Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   Montgomery.  

 7                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Thank you.  

 8   Through you.  

 9                Senator Nozzolio, do you have any 

10   idea what the Corcraft industry, which is the 

11   prison-based industrial complex, what is 

12   produced, what is the total amount produced by 

13   the Corcraft industries in our state?

14                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Mr. President, 

15   the total amount of product, the total amount of 

16   revenue, the total amount of cost?  I don't 

17   understand Senator Montgomery's question.

18                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Okay.  My 

19   question is -- through you, Mr. President -- what 

20   is the total revenue produced by Corcraft?  

21                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Mr. President, I 

22   do not have the exact number and I would only be 

23   guesstimating.  I would not want to present that 

24   at this time.

25                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   All right.  

                                                               4671

 1   Mr. President, through you, if Senator Nozzolio 

 2   would yield for another question.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 4   Nozzolio, do you continue to yield?  

 5                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Yes, 

 6   Mr. President.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 8   Senator yields.

 9                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Is it the fact 

10   that the average income for a person who is 

11   incarcerated in a facility in our state is around 

12   $1.50 an hour?

13                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Mr. President, 

14   in response to Senator Montgomery's question, I 

15   don't know if there's ever been an average 

16   established.  But I do know this.  Just this last 

17   week, Plaxico Burress, a multimillionaire NFL 

18   star who was incarcerated at the Oneida 

19   Correctional Facility, would certainly have a 

20   great deal of impact on whatever average inmate 

21   income there was.  

22                And, Mr. President, that's exactly 

23   the point of this legislation.  There are 60,000 

24   different examples of circumstances for inmates 

25   in our prison system.  And although Senator 

                                                               4672

 1   Montgomery would like to say what is the average, 

 2   I think that what this measure tries to do is to 

 3   look at those who can afford it.  

 4                So next time Senator Montgomery 

 5   meets a constituent who can't afford her copay or 

 6   is laid off from their job or simply can't afford 

 7   to make ends meet, Senator Montgomery could say 

 8   "I protected Plaxico Burress from having to make 

 9   a $7 copayment by voting against this legislation 

10   so that millionaires could in fact be insulated 

11   from any type of responsibility for their 

12   healthcare even though they've committed a 

13   crime."

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

15   Montgomery.  

16                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Thank you, 

17   Senator Nozzolio, for that.  

18                I would like to speak on the bill.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

20   Montgomery on the bill.

21                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Okay, thank 

22   you.

23                It is my understanding that out of 

24   the many, many different products that are 

25   produced by people who are incarcerated in this 

                                                               4673

 1   massive system of prisons in our state, the 

 2   furniture industry on the outside doesn't exist 

 3   because the furniture is made inside.  All of the 

 4   furniture in the State of New York is made in the 

 5   prisons, by prisoners, all of the government 

 6   agencies.  And some of the local government 

 7   agencies are also eligible to purchase furniture 

 8   from Corcraft.  

 9                All of the cleaning supplies are 

10   produced by Corcraft that we use.  The people who 

11   clean, do the heavy-duty cleaning of the floors 

12   in the State Capitol are people who are 

13   incarcerated.  The people who are incarcerated do 

14   the training of dogs that assist people, disabled 

15   people.  They make -- all of the emergency cones 

16   that we see up and down the highway are made 

17   inside the prisons.  In fact, a small business in 

18   my district was underbid by Corcraft, and 

19   therefore all of those cones are now produced by 

20   prisoners.

21                We passed a bill today that Senator 

22   Young introduced which will allow prisoners to 

23   volunteer or to work, do work release in 

24   not-for-profit organizations.  All of the highway 

25   signs, all of local street signs are produced in 

                                                               4674

 1   prisons.  So what we're talking about is a major 

 2   part of our industry in the State of New York is 

 3   on the inside.

 4                So I think what we need to be 

 5   talking about, what would be very helpful, is to 

 6   what extent we can transfer some of that industry 

 7   into jobs on the outside, for people in Senator 

 8   Nozzolio's district, Senator Young's district, my 

 9   district, all over the state, so that people have 

10   access to jobs on the outside, especially when 

11   they leave the state prison system.

12                So I hope that we will begin to look 

13   at what our system, this mass incarceration and 

14   this prison system is doing to our economy on the 

15   outside, as opposed to further penalizing and 

16   being punitive in a very negative way, in a very 

17   hurtful way.  Because those people who are 

18   incarcerated have to come back to communities 

19   like mine.  And we want them, hopefully, to have 

20   access to medical attention while they're in so 

21   that they are to some extent able to reintegrate 

22   and reenter society and not bring with them the 

23   diseases that are so prevalent in the prison 

24   system.

25                So I am voting no on this bill, as I 

                                                               4675

 1   have for the last however many years Senator 

 2   Nozzolio has introduced it.  I think he knows, 

 3   because there is no same-as bill in the Assembly, 

 4   so he knows that it's not going to pass.  This is 

 5   another one of those posturing bills like Senator 

 6   Savino referred to earlier.

 7                So, Mr. President, I'll be voting 

 8   no.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Is there 

10   any other Senator wishing to be heard?

11                Seeing none, hearing none, the 

12   debate is closed.  

13                The Secretary will ring the bell.

14                Read the last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16   act shall take effect on the 120th day.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

21   Nozzolio to explain his vote.

22                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Yes, 

23   Mr. President.  

24                Mr. President and my colleagues, 

25   let's support this measure.  Let's support those 

                                                               4676

 1   who pay the bills, the taxpayers of this state.  

 2   Let's support those who obey the law, the 

 3   taxpayers of this state.  Let's do what other 

 4   states do.  Let's do what the federal government 

 5   does.  Let's make New York competitive again by 

 6   continuing to cut expenses to make our state a 

 7   more affordable place to live.

 8                That's why I'm supporting this 

 9   legislation.  Mr. President, I urge my colleagues 

10   to dot same.  Thank you very much.  I vote aye.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

12   Nozzolio will be recorded in the affirmative.

13                Senator Hassell-Thompson to explain 

14   her vote.

15                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

16   you, Mr. President.

17                You know, Senator Montgomery just 

18   raised an issue that I think ought to be 

19   resounded.  When you talk about the amount of 

20   money that Corcraft makes as a result of the 

21   furniture and all of the other by-products that 

22   are sold on the outside, it's very interesting 

23   that everyone is anxious for the inmates to pay 

24   $7 as a copay, but those same people on the 

25   outside, the same people who want them to pay the 

                                                               4677

 1   copay, pay their share, fight for a livable 

 2   wage.  They don't make a livable wage.  And when 

 3   they start making a livable wage, then we can 

 4   have a conversation about what amount they should 

 5   in fact pay.

 6                And of the numbers of prisoners, the 

 7   ones that comes from my neighborhoods and 

 8   communities, they don't have millions of dollars, 

 9   Senator Nozzolio.  

10                So, Mr. President, as I said, I will 

11   be voting no.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Hassell-Thompson to be recorded in the negative.

14                Senator Rivera to explain his vote.

15                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.

17                As is already clear, I will be 

18   voting in the negative on this bill.  But I would 

19   only like to -- I stood up to explain my vote and 

20   to say I thank Senator Stewart-Cousins for 

21   bringing up a very simple, simple point.  And 

22   that is to ask whether there is actually factual 

23   evidence on which to base this policy.  

24                And I would only ask all colleagues, 

25   not only on this piece of legislation but across 

                                                               4678

 1   the board, in all of our legislative endeavors, 

 2   to just know that anecdotal evidence does not 

 3   good policy make.  

 4                So in this sense I will be voting in 

 5   the negative.  Because as we have already stated, 

 6   to make policy like this that's going to impact 

 7   thousands of people from what a couple are doing 

 8   is I believe the wrong way to go about making 

 9   policy.  

10                Thank you, Mr. President.  I will be 

11   voting in the negative.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Rivera to be recorded in the negative.

14                Senator Duane to explain his vote.

15                SENATOR DUANE:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.  

17                I'm going to be voting in the 

18   negative.  But I have to say that I'm very sad 

19   that Senator Nozzolio did not miss my usual line 

20   of questioning about whether Mr. Burress had 

21   insurance, if the insurance company would have 

22   covered that copay.  Ten years, we miss a couple 

23   of years, you forget.  All right.  My feelings 

24   are hurt.  

25                I'm going to vote no, Mr. President.

                                                               4679

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Duane to be recorded in the negative.

 3                Announce the results.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5   Calendar 410, those recorded in the negative are 

 6   Senators Breslin, Diaz, Dilan, Duane, Espaillat, 

 7   Gianaris, Hassell-Thompson, Klein, L. Krueger, 

 8   Montgomery, Oppenheimer, Parker, Perkins, Rivera, 

 9   Sampson, Savino, Serrano, Squadron, Stavisky and 

10   Stewart-Cousins.  Also Senator Adams.  Also 

11   Senator Avella.

12                Absent from voting are Senators 

13   Bonacic, Huntley, C. Kruger, McDonald, Peralta, 

14   and Smith.  

15                Ayes, 34.  Nays, 22.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                Senator Libous.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Can we return to 

20   motions for a moment, please.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   We'll 

22   return to motions.

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

24   Senator Nozzolio, on page 57 I offer the 

25   following amendments to Calendar Number 1162, 

                                                               4680

 1   Senate Print 5455A, and ask that said bill retain 

 2   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 4   amendments are received and --

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

 6   Senator Zeldin --

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   -- the 

 8   bill will be retained -- 

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I'm sorry, 

10   Mr. President.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   -- on 

12   third reading.  

13                Go ahead, Senator Libous.

14                SENATOR LIBOUS:   The stenographer 

15   gets very mad when I do that.  I'm very sorry.  

16                On behalf of Senator Zeldin, I wish 

17   to call up his bill, 3844, recalled from the 

18   Assembly, which is now at the desk.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

20   Secretary will read.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   871, by Senator Zeldin, Senate Print 3844, an act 

23   to amend Chapter 397 of the Laws of 1996.

24                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

25   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

                                                               4681

 1   bill was passed.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 3   roll on reconsideration.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 6                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 7   now offer up the following amendments.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    

 9   Amendments accepted.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

11   this time can we return to the reading of the 

12   controversial calendar.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

14   Secretary will read.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   508, by the Senate Committee on Rules, Senate 

17   Print 4792, an act to amend the Tax Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Breslin.

20                SENATOR BRESLIN:   Mr. President, I 

21   believe there's an amendment at the desk.  I ask 

22   that the reading of the amendment be waived and 

23   that Senator Avella be allowed to speak on the 

24   amendment.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

                                                               4682

 1   an amendment at the desk.  The reading will be 

 2   waived without objection.  

 3                Senator Avella, you may speak on the 

 4   amendment.

 5                SENATOR AVELLA:   Thank you, 

 6   Mr. President.  I know it's late, it's ten 

 7   minutes to 12:00, but this is an important 

 8   amendment.  

 9                The amendment to the bill, if 

10   approved, would continue the millionaire's 

11   surcharge for the next calendar year, with two 

12   exceptions.  It would then be only for people 

13   making a million dollars or more.  Despite that 

14   some of my colleagues on the other side said we 

15   were interested in only people making $200,000, 

16   this would only be for people making a million 

17   dollars or more.  

18                And the second change would be 

19   30 percent of the revenue would go to an 

20   educational assistance fund which would only be 

21   used for the payment of education aid to school 

22   districts and BOCES.

23                You know, we took a very important 

24   act, when we balanced the budget, to cap a 

25   $10 billion deficit.  But we did that with a lot 

                                                               4683

 1   of pain to a lot of people in the State of 

 2   New York, especially those people who are least 

 3   able to afford the high taxes in this state.  And 

 4   we are the second highest paid taxes -- the 

 5   second highest state in the country, second only 

 6   to New Jersey.

 7                We need to have the people who are 

 8   the wealthiest in our society pay a little bit 

 9   more so we can restore some of these services.  

10   We've had discussions over and over again.  We've 

11   had discussions tonight.  I remember some of the 

12   comments from our colleagues about the MTA 

13   payroll tax.  And there was a comment from the 

14   other side of the aisle about the working 

15   blue-collar families.  

16                Well, we are thinking about the 

17   working blue-collar families.  Why should they 

18   have to pay a little bit more in taxes, why 

19   should they get less services when we're letting 

20   the richest of our society off the hook?  This is 

21   something we absolutely must do.  

22                And there are always two arguments 

23   that are brought up about continuing the 

24   millionaire's tax.  One, that it would be hurt 

25   small business.  And that is absolutely not the 

                                                               4684

 1   case.  I did a lot of research on this issue 

 2   before I introduced this amendment.  I cannot 

 3   find one study that shows small business would be 

 4   affected by this.  Because remember, this is the 

 5   personal income tax surcharge.

 6                The other argument that is always 

 7   brought up is that the rich of the State of 

 8   New York are going to leave.  There have been 

 9   numerous studies on this issue, and most 

10   independent studies have shown that people do not 

11   leave.  And in fact, there was a 2011 New Jersey 

12   study, there was a 2011 New England study which 

13   actually looked at 18 years of taxes in states 

14   throughout the country and found that tax rates 

15   do not influence mobility.

16                And the one study that was done 

17   which a lot of people refer to, the Partnership 

18   for New York City, actually did not look at 

19   people making a million dollars or more, it 

20   merely looked at people who had wealth of a 

21   million dollars or more.

22                And finally, to counter that 

23   argument that people are leaving the state, this 

24   would affect 79,000 filers in the State of 

25   New York.  And it would still account for 

                                                               4685

 1   $4.1 billion.  That could go a long way to 

 2   restore some of those services that we've had to 

 3   cut.  Of those 79,000 filers, 40,000 are New York 

 4   State residents.  Thirty-nine thousand do not 

 5   live in the State of New York.  

 6                So to anybody who says, well, we 

 7   can't do this because people are going to leave, 

 8   well, half of the filers already do not live in 

 9   the State of New York.  But they have to pay the 

10   income tax because of the amount of money they 

11   earn here.

12                My colleagues, this is a fair thing 

13   to do.  And I'm assuming the worst-case scenario 

14   that I'm going to be ruled out of order, this is 

15   not germane.  But if that is the case, if that is 

16   the case, I ask the leadership to allow this 

17   issue to come up for a full debate.  We owe that 

18   to the residents of this state, that we have a 

19   full debate on this issue so that both sides can 

20   get up and talk about it.  

21                Because I can tell you, whenever I 

22   go through my district -- and I have some very 

23   wealthy middle-class neighborhoods, but I also 

24   have some working-family neighborhoods.  To a 

25   person, people say, "Why are we not taxing the 1 

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 1   percent of income earners in this state?"  Why 

 2   does the mayor of the City of New York threaten 

 3   to close firehouses?  Why are school districts 

 4   throughout the entire state threatening to lay 

 5   off teachers?  This would stop that and only 

 6   affect the top 1 percent.  Of 79,000 filers, only 

 7   40,000 live in the State of New York.

 8                And I think it would it was my 

 9   colleague Senator Suzi Oppenheimer who said, at a 

10   discussion on this, that the millionaires in her 

11   district have said to her on a personal level, 

12   "Tax us.  We're willing to pay the additional 

13   tax."

14                So I urge my colleagues to vote for 

15   this amendment.  And if I get ruled out of order, 

16   I ask the leadership to bring it up for future 

17   consideration.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

19   you, Senator Avella.

20                (Laughter.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   You're 

22   very astute.  You're very astute.  

23                Senator Avella, I have reviewed the 

24   amendment and I find it to be nongermane to the 

25   subject matter of the bill in chief.  Senate Bill 

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 1   4792 is a bill relative to a local sales tax of 

 2   one particular county.  And this legislation 

 3   relates to the personal income tax and education 

 4   expenditures statewide.  Therefore, I rule that 

 5   it is nongermane.

 6                The Secretary will ring the bell.

 7                Read the last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9   act shall take effect immediately.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Announce 

14   the results. 

15                Senator Libous.  

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   We have to call 

17   the roll.  Announce the results.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The roll 

19   was called.  We're waiting for a tally of 

20   results, Senator Libous.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   That's correct.

22                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23   Calendar 508, those recorded in the negative are 

24   Senators Adams, Espaillat, Gianaris, L. Krueger, 

25   Parker, Perkins, Rivera, Serrano, Squadron and 

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 1   Stavisky.

 2                Absent from voting:  Senators 

 3   Bonacic, Huntley, C. Kruger, McDonald, Peralta 

 4   and Smith.

 5                Ayes, 46.  Nays, 10.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                Senator Libous.

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, if 

10   we could return to motions for a moment.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   On 

12   motions.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

14   Senator LaValle, on page 42 I offer the following 

15   amendments to Calendar Number 994, Senate Print 

16   5216B, and ask that said bill retain its place on 

17   the Third Reading Calendar.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

19   amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

20   its place on third reading.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, is 

22   there any further business at the desk at this 

23   moment?  

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

25   no further business at this moment.

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 1                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Well, we are going 

 2   to lay aside temporarily Calendar Number 53 and 

 3   53A.  We will take them up tomorrow morning.  

 4                But before I announce what time, I 

 5   believe Senator Hassell-Thompson would like to 

 6   make an announcement.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 8   calendars will be laid aside until tomorrow.  

 9                Senator Hassell-Thompson is 

10   recognized for the purposes of an announcement.

11                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

12   you, Mr. President.

13                At 10:30 a.m. there will be a 

14   meeting of the Democratic Conference in the 

15   Democratic Conference Room.

16                Thank you.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   At 

18   10:30 a.m. tomorrow, there will be a meeting of 

19   the Democratic Conference in the Democrat 

20   Conference Room.

21                Senator Libous.

22                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

23   seeing that the time is 12:03 a.m., the 

24   Republicans will conference later this morning at 

25   10:00 a.m. in Room 332.  

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 1                And the Senate will meet at 

 2   11:00 a.m. tomorrow, June 16th.  Or today.  

 3   Excuse me, Mr. President, the Senate will meet 

 4   today, June 16th, at 11:00 a.m.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:    There 

 6   will be a Republican conference this morning at 

 7   10:00 a.m. in the Republican Conference Room, and 

 8   the Senate will stand adjourned until this 

 9   morning at 11:00 a.m. on the 16th of June.  

10                The Senate stands adjourned.

11                (Whereupon, at 12:05 a.m., the 

12   Senate adjourned.)

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