Regular Session - April 24, 2013

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 1               NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4              THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                   April 24, 2013

11                     11:18 a.m.

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14                  REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR DAVID J. VALESKY, Acting President

19  FRANCIS W. PATIENCE, Secretary

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                                                               1941

 1               P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 3   Senate will come to order.  

 4                I ask everyone to please rise and 

 5   recite with me the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7   the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 9   invocation this morning will be given by Colonel 

10   Barbara Sherer, United States Military Academy 

11   Chaplain at West Point.

12                CHAPLAIN SHERER:   Let us pray.  

13                Great Lord, I thank You for the men 

14   and women gathered in this historic chamber 

15   whose lives are dedicated to public service.  

16   May their work not be in service of self, but 

17   for the greater public good.  Bless them as they 

18   seek to care for families in hard economic 

19   times, for service members who are deployed in 

20   harm's way, and for military veterans who have 

21   sacrifice so much.  

22                I thank You especially this day for 

23   their support for the United States Military 

24   Academy at West Point as we raise a new 

25   generation of leaders, not just for the military 


                                                               1942

 1   but for our country.  

 2                During this time of national budget 

 3   challenges, Lord, grant wisdom to the Governor, 

 4   the Senate and Assembly leaders, that the 

 5   Empire State might model cooperative 

 6   problem-solving for our nation.  

 7                Give us strength, Lord, to choose 

 8   the harder right instead of the easier wrong as 

 9   we follow the path that You've set before us.  

10                All of this I ask and pray in Your 

11   great name.  Amen.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Reading 

13   of the Journal.

14                The Secretary will read.

15                THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, 

16   Tuesday, April 23rd, the Senate met pursuant to 

17   adjournment.  The Journal of Monday, April 22nd, 

18   was read and approved.  On motion, Senate 

19   adjourned.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Without 

21   objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                Presentation of petitions.

23                Messages from the Assembly.

24                The Secretary will read.

25                THE SECRETARY:   On page 23, 


                                                               1943

 1   Senator Fuschillo moves to discharge, from the 

 2   Committee on Judiciary, Assembly Bill Number 197 

 3   and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 4   Number 2610, Third Reading Calendar Number 298.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    

 6   Substitution ordered.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   On page 23, 

 8   Senator Zeldin moves to discharge, from the 

 9   Committee on Judiciary, Assembly Bill Number 195 

10   and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

11   Number 2735, Third Reading Calendar 299.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    

13   Substitution ordered.

14                THE SECRETARY:   On page 25, 

15   Senator Libous moves to discharge, from the 

16   Committee on Higher Education, Assembly Bill 

17   Number 814 and substitute it for the identical 

18   Senate Bill Number 4121, Third Reading Calendar 

19   322. 

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    

21   Substitution ordered.

22                THE SECRETARY:   On page 26, 

23   Senator Martins moves to discharge, from the 

24   Committee on Judiciary, Assembly Bill Number 

25   1051 and substitute it for the identical Senate 


                                                               1944

 1   Bill Number 2155, Third Reading Calendar 325. 

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    

 3   Substitution ordered.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   And on page 27, 

 5   Senator Ritchie moves to discharge, from the 

 6   Committee on Local Government, Assembly Bill 

 7   Number 1091 and substitute it for the identical 

 8   Senate Bill Number 4197, Third Reading Calendar 

 9   333. 

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    

11   Substitution ordered.

12                Messages from the Governor.

13                Reports of standing committees.

14                Reports of select committees.

15                Communications and reports from 

16   state officers.

17                Motions and resolutions.

18                Senator Libous.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

20   Mr. President.  

21                On behalf of Senator Marcellino, on 

22   page 14 I offer the following amendments to 

23   Calendar Number 79, Senate Print 1516, and ask 

24   that said print retain its place on the 

25   Third Reading Calendar.


                                                               1945

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   So 

 2   ordered.

 3                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 4   believe there's a privileged resolution by 

 5   Senator Larkin at the desk, Number 1372.  I ask 

 6   that the resolution be read in its entirety, and 

 7   if you would then please call on Senator Larkin.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 9   Secretary will read.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

11   Resolution Number 1372, by Senator Larkin, 

12   memorializing Governor Andrew M. Cuomo to 

13   proclaim April 24, 2013, as West Point Day in 

14   New York State.  

15                "WHEREAS, This Legislative Body is 

16   justly proud to celebrate the establishment of 

17   the United States Military Academy at West Point 

18   and to call upon Governor Andrew M. Cuomo to 

19   proclaim April 24, 2013, as West Point Day in the 

20   State of New York; and 

21                "WHEREAS, By an act of Congress, on 

22   March 16, 1802, the United States Military  

23   Academy was established within the borders of 

24   New York State, on the banks of the Hudson River; 

25   and 


                                                               1946

 1                "WHEREAS, The Academy and its 

 2   graduates are an integral part of the proud 

 3   history of this state and nation; and 

 4                "WHEREAS, The leadership and 

 5   sacrifices of the members of the Long Gray Line 

 6   have helped this country withstand countless  

 7   threats to our cherished democratic way of life; 

 8   and 

 9                "WHEREAS, The alumni have excelled 

10   not only on the battlefield but in many fields of 

11   endeavor; and 

12                "WHEREAS, The Academy continues to 

13   provide our country with able and dedicated 

14   future leaders; and 

15                "WHEREAS, Its scenic campus is a 

16   mecca each year for thousands of visitors from 

17   across our state, continent and other countries; 

18   and 

19                "WHEREAS, The United States Military 

20   Academy is in the forefront of our state's 

21   outstanding institutions of higher learning; and 

22                "WHEREAS, Sixty-one years ago, the 

23   late James T. McNamara, then a member of the 

24   New York State Assembly, and a member of the 

25   Academy's Class of 1939, was the author of the  


                                                               1947

 1   State Legislature's first 'West Point Day' 

 2   resolution; and 

 3                "WHEREAS, For decades, our nation 

 4   has enjoyed the legacy of freedom, and the United 

 5   States Military Academy at West Point has played  

 6   a vitally significant role in the maintenance of 

 7   peace and freedom; and 

 8                "WHEREAS, The members of this 

 9   Legislative Body are proud to commemorate this 

10   event, marking April 24, 2013, as West Point Day 

11   in New York State; now, therefore, be it 

12                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

13   Body pause in its deliberations to celebrate the 

14   establishment of the United States Military 

15   Academy at West Point and to memorialize Governor 

16   Andrew M. Cuomo to proclaim April 24, 2013, as 

17   West Point Day in New York State; and be it 

18   further 

19                "RESOLVED, That a copy of this  

20   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted  

21   to the Honorable Andrew M. Cuomo, Governor of the 

22   State of New York."

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

24   Larkin on the resolution.

25                SENATOR LARKIN:   Thank you, 


                                                               1948

 1   Mr. President.

 2                You know, when you look at these 

 3   young cadets -- John Flanagan's looking up there 

 4   and saying "I could do that."

 5                (Laughter.)

 6                SENATOR LARKIN:   But you know, 

 7   we're proud to have you here today.  It's 

 8   something special.  And before we go another 

 9   inch, I want to introduce this body to the future 

10   leaders of the world:  the Long Gray Line.

11                First of all, we have with us the 

12   academic dean, a personal friend.  He's standing 

13   up, General Trainor.  General Trainor has a 

14   nephew who's here, and a younger brother -- but 

15   he says he's the older brother -- who's also a 

16   grad.  Thank you, General Trainor.

17                We have with us our chaplain, 

18   Chaplain Colonel Sherer.  We have the TAC officer 

19   for the Academy, Master Sergeant Frame.

20                Now, our First Captain, Brandon 

21   Whittington.  And he has the job of overseeing 

22   4,000 cadets.

23                We have Captain Tyler Sinisgalli.  

24   Not too bad for the Island; right?  

25                John Asbach.  


                                                               1949

 1                Jason Lopez.  

 2                Oh, Grisanti wants everybody to know 

 3   that you're part of Grand Island.  I remember 

 4   before Grisanti was born.  

 5                Brian Trainor.  Welcome from a 

 6   tradition of the United States Military Academy.  

 7   You, your father, and your uncle and your aunts 

 8   are to be very proud.  You're our positive.  

 9   Thank you.

10                James Long, from Erie County.  Mike 

11   Ranzenhofer was with you.  Mike got a cut in his 

12   tooth and it went into his jaw, and I don't want 

13   to hear about the rest of it.  But he came here 

14   and he's going to meet with you back home, am I 

15   correct?  Thank you.

16                Elizabeth Judd, from Manhattan.  So, 

17   you know, when someone says the city doesn't care 

18   about the armed forces, what do you say, Senator?

19                And you know, it's a strange thing, 

20   and General Trainor and I were talking about 

21   it -- there is a full Colonel Judd at the 

22   Academy.  Being a plebe, you don't really hang 

23   around with full colonels, though.

24                Jordan Lee, from Queens.  

25                Brian Callahan.


                                                               1950

 1                Thomas McGuiness.  

 2                Boy, I'm going to try this one.  If 

 3   I fail, don't get it with me.  Samir 

 4   Abdelkhalek.  Not bad, right?  

 5                (Laughter.)

 6                SENATOR LARKIN:   Josh Lobdell.

 7                We have with us the West Point 

 8   Society:  Barry Hartman -- Barry is the Class of 

 9   '64 -- and our own local, Michael Breslin.  

10   Where's Mike?  Thank you, Michael, for coming.  

11   Mike's the Class of '61, right, Mike?  I got it 

12   right for a change?  

13                And you know, there's a young lady 

14   that comes down and administers to the cadets.  

15   She provides everything from the Hudson Valley, 

16   the North Country, for young cadets and their 

17   families.  Dina, please stand.  Great lady, 

18   ladies and gentlemen.  

19                And then we have Colonel Trainor.  

20   Colonel Trainor was the Class of '81.  And you 

21   already met his son Brian.  

22                And Peter Goebel.  Pete, you're the 

23   Class of '81, right, also?  A lot of bright guys 

24   in that class.  

25                Gene Martin, Class of '88.  


                                                               1951

 1                Mike O'Toole, Class of '90.

 2                I could have been the Class of '52, 

 3   but I figured that six months in OCS was a little 

 4   bit easier.

 5                What about our cadets?  You look at 

 6   from 1802, and you find out what's happened to 

 7   this great Academy and its men.

 8                You know, this country wouldn't be 

 9   where it's at without our armed forces.  Someone 

10   says, well, they're only a cadet.  They're a 

11   cadet today, but years down the road they will 

12   show you a record, a record of leadership, 

13   honesty, and integrity.  

14                I live right outside of the 

15   Academy.  I have season tickets to everything.  

16   Why?  Because I respect you and for everything 

17   you stand for.  As all of my colleagues here 

18   today, the first thing they said the other day 

19   was, Do I have one?  Do I have a cadet?  Do I 

20   have a cadet?  

21                I said, you know, you can have them 

22   all, we'll just all go down to West Point and 

23   we'll have lunch with them.  Bring your 

24   pocketbook; there's no free lunches anymore.

25                (Laughter.)


                                                               1952

 1                SENATOR LARKIN:   But just think 

 2   about what you do for us.  Could I ask personally 

 3   the firsties to stand up?  This is the graduating 

 4   class next month.  Within a short time, they'll 

 5   be in battle.  

 6                Thank you for your service to our 

 7   country, and God bless you.

 8                (Standing ovation.)

 9                SENATOR LARKIN:   You know, the 

10   trials and tribulations that you firsties have 

11   gone through.  Firsties, by the way, are seniors 

12   in your college of your acknowledgment.  

13                Patty Ritchie was saying to me, "You 

14   know, I met some cadets when I first got here.  

15   They've already been to Afghanistan and they're 

16   now back at my district, Fort Drum."  And she 

17   watches over you.  

18                I want to tell you, when they were 

19   doing sequester, she found out that they were 

20   going to cut out benefits for families, and she 

21   didn't waste a moment.  She started getting right 

22   on the phone because she said, "These are the 

23   proud, and we must protect and provide."  Thank 

24   you very much, Senator.

25                You know, some of you are engineers, 


                                                               1953

 1   some are pilots.  But no matter where you go, you 

 2   will be part of an organization.  You will be a 

 3   leader of troops.  The troops that are going to 

 4   be entrusted to you are our children, our 

 5   grandchildren, our nieces, our nephews.  And 

 6   we're looking to you to make sure that whatever 

 7   happens in battle, you do the best to protect 

 8   them.  Because that's what you've learned in the 

 9   past four years.  

10                Being a member of the armed forces, 

11   in my opinion, is something that every American 

12   should go through.  I think it's a pride to be 

13   part of this country's leadership.  

14                I want to tell you that I am very 

15   proud of you.  I had the privilege of serving for 

16   23½ years, and I never met somebody in the 

17   Long Gray Line that I was ashamed of.  I served 

18   with pride.  I was a peon second lieutenant and I 

19   was a colonel.  No matter what their section was, 

20   I always knew that they were doing what was right 

21   for America, not for them as an individual.  

22                I've seen some assignments that 

23   people have had -- away from their families, 

24   unexpected lost time.  But I never saw one member 

25   of the Long Gray Line complain, bitch and moan 


                                                               1954

 1   about his assignment.  Because he knew when he 

 2   took that oath on R-Day, he or she pledged to do 

 3   what was right and to be remembered always as a 

 4   member of the Long Gray Line.  

 5                May God bless each and every one of 

 6   you, and I salute you.  

 7                Thank you.

 8                (Extended applause.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

10   you, Senator Larkin.

11                Senator Skelos on the resolution.

12                SENATOR SKELOS:   Thank you very 

13   much, Mr. President.  

14                Senator Colonel Larkin has made the 

15   introductions, and we welcome all of you to our 

16   State Senate.  Your State Senate.  

17                We're extremely proud of every 

18   single one of you, and we look forward to this 

19   date absolutely every year.  And as Senator 

20   Larkin has indicated, we've met so many people 

21   that have served their country.  Many young 

22   people, when they came before this body, have 

23   potentially -- have probably lost their lives, 

24   have been injured protecting this country.  And 

25   that's something we are all very proud of.  


                                                               1955

 1                West Point is the most cherished 

 2   institution, in my opinion, in New York State.  

 3   And it's just not the brick and mortar, it's the 

 4   men and women who have gone through West Point 

 5   and made it the great institution that it is, 

 6   serving the greatest country in the world.

 7                I don't know if you've met 

 8   Colonel Larkin in the past, but this gentleman 

 9   has dedicated his life, has dedicated his life to 

10   public service.  World War II, Korea.  I'm not 

11   sure about Vietnam.

12                SENATOR LARKIN:   I was in the 

13   states.

14                SENATOR SKELOS:   He was in the 

15   States.

16                SENATOR LARKIN:   Protecting the 

17   home front.

18                SENATOR SKELOS:   But protecting our 

19   country, leading men and women.  And now in the 

20   Senate, local government, Assembly prior to that, 

21   he has dedicated himself to representing his 

22   constituents but also doing what's right for all 

23   the people of the State of New York.

24                He's a role model, not just for us 

25   in this chamber, but his life story should be a 


                                                               1956

 1   role model for all of you.  Sitting right there 

 2   someday, when most of us are gone from the 

 3   chamber, there will be another Colonel Bill 

 4   Larkin who has served his country, perhaps in 

 5   Afghanistan, Iraq, or other parts of the world, 

 6   and will make a determination that they too love 

 7   public service and being able to help those 

 8   within their communities, as we all try to do.

 9                So on behalf of the entire Senate -- 

10   Republicans, Democrats, conservatives, 

11   liberals -- we say thank you to all of you.

12                As I said at the beginning, this 

13   truly is a special day for all of us because we 

14   reflect upon the service that you are providing, 

15   we reflect upon really what's important in our 

16   lives as representatives, and that's to do what's 

17   right by our constituents and this state.  And we 

18   just in a very proud way say thank you to you for 

19   the service that you will be performing.  

20                And Colonel Larkin, we thank you for 

21   the service that you continue to perform.  

22                Thank you.

23                (Standing ovation.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

25   you, Senator Skelos.


                                                               1957

 1                Senator Klein on the resolution.

 2                SENATOR KLEIN:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.  

 4                This is always truly a great day, 

 5   because I think every opportunity we have to 

 6   acknowledge our country's bravest men and women 

 7   is one that of course I cherish.

 8                And I know Senator Skelos gave much 

 9   accolades to Colonel Senator Larkin, but I think 

10   I have to repeat some of those as well.

11                I know this is about West Point.  

12   This is honoring our future leaders.  But I think 

13   we're very privileged in this legislative body to 

14   have someone of the caliber of Senator Larkin.  

15                I don't think a day goes by where 

16   he's not advocating for love of country, where 

17   he's not advocating for our veterans.  He has so 

18   many accomplishments when it comes to this 

19   area -- the Purple Heart medal, which he lobbied 

20   for so long, which really took on a national 

21   model as well.

22                He's someone I think who teaches us 

23   very important lessons, that the freedoms that we 

24   enjoy today, we owe those freedoms to America's 

25   veterans.


                                                               1958

 1                It was once said -- and I think this 

 2   sort of epitomizes what Senator Larkin does every 

 3   day -- and it was said by Abraham Lincoln, that 

 4   the coinage used to purchase our freedoms was the 

 5   life and limbs of America's veterans.  

 6                Well, that still holds true today.  

 7   And I think all of our great military leaders 

 8   somehow found their way through West Point.  

 9                And when I look out among these 

10   future leaders -- corporate executives, future 

11   military leaders, and yes, maybe even some future 

12   presidents -- I think we're still in a very, very 

13   enviable position because we still have 

14   individuals like yourselves willing to sacrifice 

15   yourself, sacrifice your futures, and really 

16   dedicate yourselves to our military.

17                I thank you for that.  And I think 

18   not only New York State, but I think America 

19   really owes each and every one of you a debt of 

20   gratitude.  Thank you.

21                (Applause.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

23   you, Senator Klein.

24                Senator Stewart-Cousins on the 

25   resolution.


                                                               1959

 1                SENATOR STEWART-COUSINS:   Thank 

 2   you.  Thank you, Mr. President.

 3                It is really one of the highlights, 

 4   frankly, of our session days to welcome these 

 5   wonderful cadets and to really applaud you for 

 6   being absolutely the finest, the bravest, the 

 7   brightest and the most conscious of what it is 

 8   not only you can do in the present but, despite 

 9   the fact that you don't know what the future 

10   holds, you're willing to go forth bravely and 

11   really make an example of what America is.  

12                Looking at you in all of your 

13   diversity is really, really heartening to me.  

14   And looking at you is knowing that you will be 

15   not only, again, outstanding where you are, but 

16   you will continue to bring pride to all of us.  

17   It is a really great day.

18                And I would be remiss if I did not 

19   also add to my comments the accolades for Colonel 

20   Senator -- today you're Colonel Senator.  Other 

21   days you're Senator Colonel.  But today, because 

22   of what you bring to us each year, you are 

23   Colonel Senator.  

24                And of course you heard what 

25   Senator Skelos and Senator Klein said about the 


                                                               1960

 1   colonel and how he really keeps us all honest and 

 2   really brings, brings the heart of why we are 

 3   here to us every day.  He finds an example of 

 4   including everyone.  He always gives tips and 

 5   hints as to how you can enhance your relationship 

 6   with our outstanding military men and women.  

 7                And not only of course did he serve 

 8   in World War II and Korea -- and when you said 

 9   you served stateside, he reminds us that what he 

10   did was create that path of freedom for the 

11   African-American community and others going 

12   forward when he was commissioned to make sure 

13   that the marchers could march on that Bloody 

14   Sunday, when he was commissioned to make sure 

15   that Dr. King's endeavors to bring freedom and 

16   equality not only to America but to, you know, 

17   set that example for the world, were not at all 

18   thwarted.  Because he knew that his service was 

19   everywhere and anywhere, and he knew how to 

20   protect the highest values of our democracy.  

21                We thank you, Colonel, for being who 

22   you are.  

23                And again, thank you wonderful men 

24   and women for serving us so valiantly.  

25                Thank you.


                                                               1961

 1                (Applause.)

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

 3   you, Senator Stewart-Cousins.

 4                Senator DeFrancisco on the 

 5   resolution.

 6                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Thank you.  

 7                As an Air Force veteran, I 

 8   especially appreciate this day in recognizing the 

 9   military service of specifically all of you from 

10   West Point.  

11                There was a time at the end of the 

12   Vietnam War when the military was not looked at 

13   so favorably by the general public.  It wasn't 

14   the military's fault, but they weren't looked at 

15   too favorably.  And the servicemen that came back 

16   from Vietnam were not greeted with thank-yous, 

17   they were greeted with derision and they were 

18   greeted unfavorably.  

19                But it's totally different today, 

20   thank God.  And I am telling you -- I'm not going 

21   to repeat everything that everybody else said -- 

22   Senator Larkin bleeds for the military.  And as 

23   so long he's here, as long as he's here, you are 

24   never going to be not thought of highly, you are 

25   going to be given the congratulations and the 


                                                               1962

 1   proud tribute that you truly deserve.

 2                I'm visiting West Point with some 

 3   friends in September.  And I mentioned it to 

 4   Senator Larkin.  Within 24 hours, everything was 

 5   arranged.  Everything was arranged.  He's just 

 6   unbelievable.

 7                Number two, I have a cadet here, 

 8   Brian Callahan.  And I'm proud of him.  His 

 9   father lives right around from the corner from 

10   me, and I never knew it.  There he is.  He's a 

11   little too tall for me -- 

12                (Laughter.)

13                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   --  but he's 

14   a great young man.

15                Interestingly, Brian's father is a 

16   lawyer.  I've been involved with cases that he's 

17   been involved with, I've known him forever.  And 

18   his mother, Kathleen Joy, ran against me.

19                (Laughter.)

20                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Can you 

21   imagine that?  And he still got into West Point.  

22   I just don't understand it.  

23                (Laughter.)

24                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   She's a 

25   member of the city council and a fine 


                                                               1963

 1   representative.  She's my representative on the 

 2   city council.  

 3                So this business does cross party 

 4   lines, what we're doing here today.

 5                And lastly, what I really want to 

 6   point out here is the best part of you being 

 7   here, is it helps restore faith in the next 

 8   generation.  I don't know how many times I get 

 9   the feeling that this country seems to be going 

10   in the wrong direction.  

11                So many times I get the feeling that 

12   people aren't looking for how they can help 

13   society, how they can help each other, but 

14   looking for what they can receive from 

15   government.  There's a legitimate role for 

16   government.  We've got to provide what others 

17   cannot provide, and we've got to provide for 

18   those who can't.  But we're now getting to the 

19   point where everybody believes they're entitled 

20   to something.

21                All of you worked hard to get into 

22   West Point.  Now, think about that.  To get into 

23   West Point, to have a military career and to put 

24   yourselves in harm's way.  You worked to get into 

25   West Point.  If we had that same attitude and 


                                                               1964

 1   your determination and your spirit was shared by 

 2   the rest of our next generation, this country 

 3   would be great and much greater than it's ever 

 4   been.

 5                So thank you for being here.  Thank 

 6   you for the reminder to everybody that the future 

 7   is bright, we've got great leaders, and we thank 

 8   West Point for that.  Thank you very much.

 9                (Applause.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

11   you, Senator DeFrancisco.

12                Senator Sanders on the resolution.

13                SENATOR SANDERS:    Mr. President, 

14   on the resolution.  

15                It's been pointed out that Colonel 

16   Larkin was in Korea, was in World War II -- I 

17   almost messed up there.  He probably was in 

18   Vietnam and can't tell the rest of us the story, 

19   the statute of limitations is probably still 

20   going on.  So I want to thank you for helping 

21   bring us together.

22                It is not often when a Marine has to 

23   rise for the Army, but on this day we will stand 

24   and say that West Point has given us some of the 

25   greatest leaders that this world has ever seen.  


                                                               1965

 1   West Point has led in just about every 

 2   battlefield that there is.

 3                But I especially want to thank you 

 4   not simply for your service in Afghanistan or 

 5   Iraq, but closer to home.  The National Guard 

 6   actually came to the Rockaways and was helping 

 7   out during the disaster in the Rockaways.  So we 

 8   from the Rockaways are very grateful that you 

 9   guys actually showed leadership even there.  

10                General Trainor was kind enough to 

11   alert me to the fact that the Marines came to the 

12   Rockaways too, and we did a naval landing.  We 

13   won't talk about how accurate that naval landing 

14   was, but that's a different story.  So I'm 

15   grateful for those things.

16                I know this.  I know that as long as 

17   America produces cadets like Cadet Sergeant 

18   Jordan Lee, we will go to bed and wake up to the 

19   freedom that we know.  I commend you and your 

20   fellow cadets for ensuring that America goes 

21   forward for another generation.  Thank you very 

22   much.  

23                And I again thank all of the great 

24   people -- Colonel Larkin, starting with you -- 

25   that saw fit that we bring in some of the 


                                                               1966

 1   greatest of America's youth before us today.

 2                Thank you very much.

 3                (Applause.)

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 6   Libous.

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Could I suggest at 

 8   this time, since the cadets have to be at the 

 9   Assembly chamber at noon, and we'd like to have 

10   Brigadier General Trainor address the body, I'd 

11   like to take up the resolution.  And then I'd 

12   like to invite the Brigadier General up to 

13   address us.  

14                And then if members want to speak, 

15   they can speak after the resolution has passed.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    

17   Certainly.  

18                The question is on the resolution. 

19   All in favor signify by saying aye.

20                (Response of "Aye.")

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Opposed, 

22   nay.

23                (No response.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

25   resolution is adopted.  


                                                               1967

 1                Senator Libous.

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

 3   this time I would like unanimous consent for 

 4   Brigadier General Trainor to address the body 

 5   this morning.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   At this 

 7   time Brigadier General Trainor will address the 

 8   New York State Senate.

 9                BRIGADIER GENERAL TRAINOR:   Good 

10   morning.  

11                I just want to say, on behalf of 

12   everyone at the United States Military Academy, 

13   thank you.  Thank you not just for your warm 

14   welcome and for today's recognition, but for your 

15   unwavering support day in and day out as we 

16   accomplish our goal of preparing these young 

17   cadets as future officers and leaders of 

18   character for our Army and our nation.

19                I would like to offer a special 

20   thanks to Colonel Senator Bill Larkin, a veteran 

21   of World War II and Korea, who is such a great 

22   friend of West Point.

23                The great State of New York is a 

24   wonderful partner, and its help is invaluable as 

25   West Point continues to develop the best and 


                                                               1968

 1   brightest young men and women to serve our 

 2   nation.  The resilience that the people of 

 3   New York displayed after the events of 

 4   September 11th, like the resilience the people of 

 5   Boston are showing today, are great examples to 

 6   demonstrate to our cadets the power of the 

 7   American people.

 8                We are forever grateful for the 

 9   opportunity to prepare your sons and daughters.  

10   West Point was a strategic location in the 

11   founding of our country, and it remains a 

12   strategic part of our nation today because we 

13   educate, train and inspire outstanding future 

14   officers due to your steadfast commitment and 

15   support and that of the American people.

16                Thank you again, and Go Army.

17                (Standing ovation.)

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

19   Libous.

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

21   other members want to continue to address the 

22   cadets, but in a short period of time they will 

23   have to get up and leave to go to the Assembly.  

24   But I just thought it was proper for the 

25   Brigadier General to address the body.  


                                                               1969

 1                So if there are other members who 

 2   are on the list and you want to go through that 

 3   with unanimous consent with my colleague 

 4   Senator Gianaris, I would proceed.  

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 6   Ball on the resolution.

 7                SENATOR BALL:   I know that that -- 

 8   as a former Academy graduate, I know that that is 

 9   my cue to be quick, which I will be quick and be 

10   seated.  

11                I want to thank Senator Larkin as 

12   well, and I know that I speak for everybody who's 

13   familiar with Senator Larkin that there is no 

14   greater advocate who personally goes to each and 

15   every member to make sure there are veterans and 

16   certainly his beloved academy is absolutely taken 

17   care of.

18                I do want to take somewhat of a 

19   count to the "Go Army" comment.  It was 

20   personally upsetting.  On November 3rd, a few 

21   days before my election, when I pushed the 

22   campaign schedule to go to watch my alma mater, 

23   the Air Force Academy, get the tar kicked out of 

24   them on November 3rd -- and I just want to say 

25   you played a hell of game.  Please never do it 


                                                               1970

 1   again.

 2                (Laughter.)

 3                SENATOR BALL:   And, you know, I 

 4   just got back from my 10-year reunion, and I just 

 5   want to talk to each and every one of you -- and 

 6   Cadet Lopez, who's from my district -- you know, 

 7   you have amazing opportunities ahead of you.  And 

 8   the world is your oyster.  I'm not going to tell 

 9   you how great West Point is.  Every time I go out 

10   to drinks with many of the alma mater, you guys 

11   tell me enough.  Okay?  You know it.  

12                Suck every minute and every moment 

13   of life that you can.  Because the saying at my 

14   institution was that the best view of the Academy 

15   is in the rear-view mirror after you graduate.  

16                I know it can get dark and gray and 

17   it can seem like you have to take 275 pounds 

18   every day and put it into a 50-pound bag.  Enjoy 

19   it, because you're going to miss it.  

20                And the honor that you have of 

21   leading men and women from all across this 

22   country who have moms and dads, families that 

23   love them dearly, there's no greater honor.  

24                And I ask one thing, that you 

25   consider, once that uniform comes off -- and 


                                                               1971

 1   there are combat vets -- Lee Zeldin, who's here, 

 2   combat vet; Senator Larkin; Wayne Jackson, who's 

 3   a Sergeant-at-Arms who actually had injuries, 

 4   he's a Purple Heart recipient.  I'm not missing 

 5   anybody, right?  Consider, when you take that 

 6   uniform off, that you come to places like this, 

 7   because America needs you.  

 8                God bless.

 9                (Applause.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

11   you, Senator Ball.

12                Senator Addabbo on the resolution.

13                SENATOR ADDABBO:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  Good morning.

15                First I want to echo the sentiments 

16   about Colonel Senator Larkin, for his dedication 

17   to our country and of course our state, and for 

18   his efforts on West Point Day each and every 

19   year.

20                As ranking member of the Senate 

21   Veterans, Military Affairs and Homeland Security 

22   Committee, what I see today is both the history 

23   and the future of our country here in terms of 

24   military armed forces.  And I know it's possible 

25   that one of these cadets will create a new 


                                                               1972

 1   chapter in America's history, and that future 

 2   cadets will learn from their leadership and learn 

 3   from their experiences someday.

 4                Only recently, this past December, 

 5   we lost an icon, one of the greats at West Point, 

 6   and that's General Norman Schwarzkopf.  As a 

 7   leader for the coalition forces in the Persian 

 8   Gulf War, and with the extraordinary military 

 9   career he had before that, we certainly lost an 

10   American icon.  

11                And today we have one of General 

12   Schwarzkopf's West Point classmates.  I am 

13   pleased to recognize United States Army Brigadier 

14   General, West Point Class of 1956 -- and my 

15   uncle -- General Luciano Salamone.  Uncle Leo.  

16                (Applause.)

17                SENATOR ADDABBO:   Once again, it's 

18   a great honor.  I say thank you for your 

19   commitment and dedication to our country, and 

20   it's a pleasure having you here today in the 

21   Senate chambers.  Thank you very much.  

22                Thank you, Mr. President.

23                (Applause.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

25   you, Senator Addabbo.


                                                               1973

 1                Senator Little on the resolution.

 2                SENATOR LITTLE:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.

 4                I would just like to commend all of 

 5   these young men and women who attend the 

 6   military academy for their perseverance, for 

 7   their actual desire to attend a military academy, 

 8   and then the hard work that goes into it to 

 9   become to accepted a military academy, and then 

10   the harder work to be able to maintain your 

11   grades there and to graduate from there.  It's a 

12   wonderful career, and we're very, very proud of 

13   you.  

14                My own son attended the Naval 

15   Academy, so as a parent I know how difficult it 

16   is.  And I remember when people would ask him, 

17   when he'd come home, "Do you like it there?" he'd 

18   say, "Well, I don't always like it there, but I 

19   will like being from there."  

20                And believe me, that is the truth, 

21   because you are getting one of the finest 

22   educations that is available to any young man or 

23   woman in this country.  

24                And I know how proud I am of my son, 

25   and I know how proud your family is of you.  


                                                               1974

 1   Congratulations, and thank you for selecting a 

 2   military academy and a military career.  

 3                Thank you.

 4                (Applause.)

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

 6   you, Senator Little.

 7               Senator Hoylman on the resolution.

 8                SENATOR HOYLMAN:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                I wanted to acknowledge the cadets 

11   who are here today and welcome them, and of 

12   course acknowledge Senator Colonel Larkin's 

13   contributions to this afternoon but also for 

14   a lifetime of military service.

15                I particularly wanted to acknowledge 

16   a young woman who is from my district, the 

17   district of Chelsea, as she leaves.  Her name is 

18   Elizabeth -- E.J. -- Judd.  

19                You know, the great cultural 

20   anthropologist Margaret Mead once wrote:  "I do 

21   not believe in using women in combat because 

22   females are too fierce."  And I think E.J. Judd 

23   falls into that category.  

24                She is a graduate of Stuyvesant High 

25   School, which is one of the finest public high 


                                                               1975

 1   schools in New York City.  She's a major in 

 2   mechanical engineering, is currently ranked fifth 

 3   individually in national competition in USMA 

 4   fencing.  And she told me that she fell in love 

 5   with West Point on a third-grade field trip, and 

 6   she knew at age 10 what she wanted to do with the 

 7   rest of her life.  I think I'm still trying to 

 8   figure that out.  

 9                But I acknowledge her service, her 

10   future work on behalf of the U.S. military, and 

11   wanted to thank Congressman Nadler for her 

12   nomination and making certain that she received 

13   this education.  She's the only woman cadet here 

14   today, but she's one of 200 in her class.  So 

15   there's great things on the horizon for women in 

16   our military service.  

17                Thank you, Mr. President.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

19   you, Senator Hoylman.

20                Senator Golden on the resolution.

21                SENATOR GOLDEN:   Quickly, I'd like 

22   to congratulate again Senator Larkin for his 

23   great outstanding work in our military and here 

24   in our Senate body.  

25                I'd like to congratulate General 


                                                               1976

 1   Trainor for his great service to our nation.  

 2                But there was another general, 

 3   General Swezey, that was with them as well.  

 4   General Swezey was on the ground, not only, as 

 5   Senator Sanders has pointed out, in the 

 6   Rockaways, but he was in Nassau, he was in 

 7   Suffolk, he was Senator Lanza in Staten Island, 

 8   he was with Simcha Felder and Senator Golden in 

 9   Brooklyn.  

10                They came down and they helped all 

11   of those families.  They've been a credit to this 

12   nation for the past 200 years.  They've been a 

13   credit to this nation from 9/11, a terrible 

14   tragedy that took 3,000 lives.  They have done an 

15   outstanding job since 9/11 and continue to serve 

16   this great nation with honor, and I congratulate 

17   them.  

18                And I congratulate you, 

19   Senator Larkin, for your great work.  

20                Thank you.

21                (Applause.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

23   you, Senator Golden.

24                Senator Kennedy on the resolution.

25                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Thank you, 


                                                               1977

 1   Mr. President.

 2                I too want to join my colleagues in 

 3   welcoming the cadets who have joined us here 

 4   today at the State Capitol from West Point.  You 

 5   cadets have done so much already to make our 

 6   nation and our state proud, and I know you'll 

 7   continue to accomplish great things for 

 8   yourselves and your families, for your neighbors, 

 9   the Empire State, and the United States of 

10   America.

11                Duty, honor and country.  Those are 

12   the values that you deeply believe in and values 

13   that you live every day.  They're also values 

14   that drive our work here in the Senate, and they 

15   are the values that every American respects and 

16   often seeks to fulfill.  You cadets are those 

17   values personified.

18                As you begin your careers in service 

19   to the nation, I know that you'll forever keep 

20   "duty, honor and country" at the forefront of 

21   your hearts and your minds and you'll do 

22   everything you can to keep our nation strong and 

23   free.  Congratulations as you prepare for 

24   graduation, and good luck in all of your future 

25   endeavors.


                                                               1978

 1                I also want to just take a moment to 

 2   specifically recognize a young man who recently 

 3   traveled from West Point to Buffalo and back 

 4   again.  And in that brief moment of time he was 

 5   in Western New York to visit his friends and his 

 6   family, he took the time to meet with me and 

 7   discuss a project he's working on to help 

 8   veterans that have served this country so nobly.  

 9                Jay Long, a young Western New Yorker 

10   and my fellow alumnus of St. Joseph's Collegiate 

11   Institute -- for those of you keeping track, the 

12   greatest high school in America --

13                (Laughter.)

14                SENATOR KENNEDY:   -- is making his 

15   family, our high school alma mater, and our 

16   community in Western New York proud as he 

17   graduates from West Point.

18                Jay talked to me about Trek for Our 

19   Troops, an important program that aims to give 

20   veterans an opportunity to gain direction and 

21   recharge their ambition after they return home 

22   from their service and sacrifice to this great 

23   country.

24                So often we hear the tragic stories 

25   of veterans who come home and struggle to find 


                                                               1979

 1   employment, struggle to reacclimate to civilian 

 2   life, and struggle to find the support that they 

 3   need.  Simply put, this is not right and it is 

 4   unacceptable.  

 5                When soldiers return home after 

 6   fulfilling their duties and completing their 

 7   service to our country, it is our duty to protect 

 8   and support our veterans and their families.  

 9   They deserve access to the opportunities they 

10   need to lead long fulfilling lives after military 

11   service, to become reacclimated to society, to 

12   find a job, to raise their families and to serve 

13   the community with honor and dignity as they've 

14   served this great nation.

15                I firmly believe that, we in the 

16   Senate here believe that, and I know Jay Long and 

17   his fellow cadets that join him here today 

18   believe that as well.

19                I encourage everyone in this chamber 

20   and the people of the state to learn more about 

21   Trek For Our Troops and the work that they're 

22   doing with Team Red, White and Blue.  Programs 

23   like these are giving veterans a better shot at 

24   completing a smoother transition from military 

25   service to civilian life.  It's a noble effort, a 


                                                               1980

 1   great cause, and it's a mission we should all 

 2   commit to.

 3                Thank you, Jay, for your hard work.  

 4   Thank you, cadets, for your service to this great 

 5   country.  And thank you for all that you do for 

 6   the future.

 7                Thank you, Mr. President.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

 9   you, Senator Kennedy.

10                (Applause.)

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

12   Libous, that concludes comments from the Senators 

13   on the West Point resolution.

14                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.  

16                I believe Senator Larkin wanted to 

17   open the resolution up to all the members.  So if 

18   you would put all the members on the resolution.  

19   If for some reason a member doesn't want to be on 

20   the resolution, let the desk know.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   All 

22   Senators will be placed on the resolution.  

23   Anyone wishing not to cosponsor should notify the 

24   desk.

25                Senator Libous.


                                                               1981

 1                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

 2   we return to motions for a second.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Motions 

 4   and resolutions.

 5                Senator Libous.  

 6                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

 7   Senator Young, on page 29 I offer the following 

 8   amendments to Calendar Number 391, Senate Print 

 9   3710B, and ask that said bill retain its place on 

10   the Third Reading Calendar.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

12   amendments are accepted and the bill will retain 

13   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

14                Senator Libous.  

15                SENATOR LIBOUS:   And, 

16   Mr. President, on behalf of myself, I wish to 

17   call up my bill, Senate Print 3580, recalled from 

18   the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

20   Secretary will read.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   181, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 3580, an act 

23   to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

25   Libous.


                                                               1982

 1                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 2   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

 3   bill was passed.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 5   Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 9   now offer up the following amendments.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    The 

11   amendments are accepted.

12                Senator Libous.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Sir, could we now 

14   at this time have the reading of the 

15   noncontroversial calendar.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

17   Secretary will read.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 73, 

19   by Senator Zeldin, Senate Print 2598A, an act 

20   authorizing.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 


                                                               1983

 1   roll.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6   Calendar Number 73:  Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.  Senator 

 7   Bonacic recorded in the negative.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   167, by Senator Klein, Senate Print 3070, an act 

12   to amend Chapter 174 of the Laws of 2012.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.  Nays, 

21   1.  Senator Bonacic recorded in the negative.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   170, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 1886, an 


                                                               1984

 1   act to amend the Education Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   233, by Senator Kennedy, Senate Print 2871, an 

14   act authorizing.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.  Nays, 

23   2.  Senators Bonacic and O'Mara recorded in the 

24   negative.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 


                                                               1985

 1   is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   237, by Senator O'Mara, Senate Print 3911, an act 

 4   to amend the Village Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   238, by Senator Little, Senate Print 3933, an act 

17   to amend the Town Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.


                                                               1986

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   241, by Senator Zeldin, Senate Print 4092, an act 

 5   to authorize.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9   act shall take effect immediately.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.  Nays, 

14   2.  Senators Bonacic and O'Mara recorded in the 

15   negative.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   242, by Senator Martins, Senate Print 4192, an 

20   act to authorize.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 


                                                               1987

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.  Nays, 

 4   2.  Senators Bonacic and O'Mara recorded in the 

 5   negative.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   294, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 280, 

10   Concurrent Resolution of the Senate and Assembly.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

12   roll on the concurrent resolution.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

16   resolution is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   295, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 1127A, 

19   an act to amend the Domestic Relations Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

21   last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

23   act shall take effect on the 120th day.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

25   roll.


                                                               1988

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   298, substituted earlier by Member of the 

 7   Assembly Braunstein, Assembly Print Number 197, 

 8   an act to amend the Judiciary Law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

10   last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

12   act shall take effect immediately.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

14   roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

18   is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   299, substituted earlier by Member of the 

21   Assembly Zebrowski, Assembly Print Number 195, an 

22   act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               1989

 1   act shall take effect immediately.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   322, substituted earlier by Member of the 

10   Assembly Pretlow, Assembly Print 814 --

11                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

13   is laid aside.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   325, substituted earlier by Member of the 

16   Assembly Weinstein, Assembly Print Number 1051, 

17   an act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 

21   act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

22   same manner as Chapter 500 of the Laws of 2012.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               1990

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.  

 2   Senator Bonacic recorded in the negative.  

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 4   is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   326, by Senator Klein, Senate Print 2369, an act 

 7   to amend the Local Finance Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 9   last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

13   roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   327, by Senator Zeldin, Senate Print 2925A, an 

20   act to authorize.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 


                                                               1991

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.  Nays, 

 4   2.  Senators Bonacic and O'Mara recorded in the 

 5   negative.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   333, substituted earlier by Member of the 

10   Assembly Magee, Assembly Print 1091, an act to 

11   amend the General Municipal Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15   act shall take effect immediately.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   350, by Senator Ball, Senate Print 2655 --

24                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside for 

25   the day.


                                                               1992

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 2   is laid aside for the day.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   351, by Senator Ball, Senate Print 2657, an act 

 5   to amend the Military Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9   act shall take effect on the 30th day.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                Senator Libous, that completes the 

17   noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Could we now have 

19   the controversial reading of the calendar.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

21   Secretary will ring the bell.  

22                The Secretary will place Calendar 

23   322 before the house, controversial reading.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   322, by Member of the Assembly Pretlow, 


                                                               1993

 1   Assembly Print 814, an act to amend the Education 

 2   Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 4   Krueger.

 5                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you, 

 6   Mr. President.  If the sponsor would please yield 

 7   for some questions.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 9   Libous?  

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I do, 

11   Mr. President.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

13   sponsor yields.

14                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

15                Specifically my questions involve 

16   the last section of this bill -- actually, it's 

17   not the last section, it's Section 4:  

18   "Subparagraph (iv) of paragraph 1 of subdivision  

19   (d) of section 3101 of the Civil Practice Law and 

20   Rules is REPEALED."

21                Can you please explain what that 

22   repeal would mean?  

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President -- 

24   through you, of course -- what it does is it just 

25   strikes that clause that says that in an action 


                                                               1994

 1   for podiatric medical malpractice a physician may 

 2   be called upon as an expert witness in trial.  

 3                This is something that the Assembly 

 4   Codes Committee had requested be amended, and we 

 5   are amending the bill at their request.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 7   Krueger.  

 8                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

 9   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

10   yield.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

12   Libous.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Sure.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

15   sponsor yields.

16                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

17                So if we were in the Assembly, I 

18   would ask them why they wanted to amend this 

19   language.  But since you're carrying the bill in 

20   the Senate, why would we want to change the 

21   standard of who can be called as a witness in a 

22   medical malpractice case involving specifically 

23   podiatrists?

24                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Well, it was 

25   originally part of the chapter, Mr. President.  


                                                               1995

 1   But because the importance of this bill is 

 2   something that the doctors are -- the 

 3   podiatrists are interested in, we wanted to make 

 4   sure that the chapter could go forward.  And at 

 5   this time we're making that amendment so that the 

 6   bill gets --

 7                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you --

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 9   Krueger.

10                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

11   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

12   yield.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

14   Libous.  

15                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Sure.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

17   sponsor yields.

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   So my 

19   understanding is we passed a law that this is a 

20   chapter amendment to, and the law now allows 

21   podiatrists to do surgery up to the knee.  

22                Now, personally I voted against that 

23   law because I actually don't think the training 

24   and scope of practice of podiatrists should 

25   include surgery on a significant part of the body 


                                                               1996

 1   up to the knee, but it had become the law.

 2                And as part of the law, there's the 

 3   recognition that you face the possibility of 

 4   medical malpractice when you're in fact doing 

 5   surgery -- I mean, they always faced medical 

 6   malpractice, but now they face medical 

 7   malpractice on a larger part of the body that 

 8   they can do surgery on.  And I understand that.

 9                But this repealer would actually 

10   translate into physicians not being allowed to be 

11   called as expert witnesses on a podiatric medical 

12   malpractice action.  And I'm concerned that if I 

13   were to go to any medical practitioner and they 

14   performed surgery --

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

16   Krueger, are you speaking on the bill or asking 

17   Senator Libous a question?  

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   No, I have a very 

19   long question, thank you.  

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Perhaps 

21   we could get to that question.

22                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I will be getting 

23   to it.  I'm just trying to give you the scenario 

24   of the question.

25                That if this bill were to pass, that 


                                                               1997

 1   I would be prevented from having a doctor as an 

 2   expert witness in a medical malpractice case 

 3   against my podiatrist.  So that is my question.  

 4                Is that the understanding of the 

 5   sponsor, that the law allows surgery, it requires 

 6   malpractice insurance, but we would no longer be 

 7   allowed to call a doctor as an expert witness in 

 8   a case involving a podiatrist?

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

10   that is not true.  Doctors still could be called 

11   as an expert witness.

12                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

13   Mr. President, then I repeat my question.  What 

14   does this section of his bill do to change the 

15   existing civil law?  

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   It allows the 

17   court to make the decision.

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

19   Mr. President.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

21   Krueger.

22                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

23                We specifically --

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

25   Krueger, are you continuing to ask Senator Libous 


                                                               1998

 1   to yield or are you speaking on the bill?  

 2                SENATOR KRUEGER:   No, I'm going to 

 3   speak on the bill.  And I may have some 

 4   additional questions.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 6   Krueger on the bill.

 7                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

 8                So in other forms of medical 

 9   practice and other forms of surgery, in other 

10   situations where there may be a malpractice case, 

11   the law is clear that you can call a doctor as an 

12   expert.  There is a process where a judge may 

13   determine this person is or isn't qualified to be 

14   the expert.  There are always lawyers on both 

15   sides in these cases, and usually a lawyer for 

16   the defendant will make an argument as to why 

17   they don't believe this person is or isn't 

18   qualified to be the expert witness for the 

19   plaintiff.

20                The law also already allows 

21   flexibility for judges to determine whether or 

22   not a specific person can be recognized as an 

23   expert witness.  Despite my colleague's 

24   statement, I actually believe this could be read 

25   as doctors cannot be called as expert witnesses 


                                                               1999

 1   in a medical malpractice case involving a 

 2   podiatrist.  

 3                I accept under current law a judge 

 4   might determine a specific doctor or doctors or 

 5   any other kind of witnesses as not being 

 6   qualified.  But in fact, it is particularly 

 7   important that there be no gray area in our law 

 8   when it comes to being allowed to recognize that 

 9   doctors may in fact be the only appropriate 

10   experts to testify in a medical malpractice case 

11   involving podiatrists, because the podiatrist is 

12   doing surgery perhaps on the bones in the ankle 

13   or heading up the leg, or may be involved in 

14   other removals of things along the leg or the 

15   foot up to the knee.  

16                But through malpractice, which may 

17   be intentional or unintentional, they may hit the 

18   tibial artery or the peroneal artery or the 

19   dorsalis pedis artery or the popliteal artery or 

20   even the femoral artery, leading to potentially 

21   blood clots, aneurysms, blood stoppage to the 

22   heart, oxygen stoppage to the rest of the body, 

23   causing serious physical harm or even death.

24                If that happened to me or my family 

25   members, I would want to make sure that an expert 


                                                               2000

 1   in arterial and venous circulation flow, with 

 2   expertise in what happens if there are mistakes 

 3   in surgery, even unintentional, involving systems 

 4   in the foot, leg or knee, I would want that 

 5   expert to be -- the expert in the surgical 

 6   procedures, in the anatomy, to be testifying.

 7                And we have a perfectly good law 

 8   that we recognize for other medical malpractice 

 9   by other providers of healthcare.  And I really 

10   can't understand why we would want some exception 

11   to the standards in our civil law about the 

12   rights of who may be called in a civil case as an 

13   expert to testify specifically for podiatric 

14   malpractice.  So this is my opposition to the 

15   bill.

16                May I ask the sponsor if he will 

17   yield to an additional question.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

19   Libous, do you yield?  

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Sure.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

22   sponsor yields.

23                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

24                The sponsor answered that the 

25   Codes Committee of the Assembly supported this, 


                                                               2001

 1   but again I pointed out we're not in the 

 2   Assembly.

 3                Are the podiatrists asking for this 

 4   repeal?

 5                SENATOR LIBOUS:   No, this 

 6   actually -- look it, Mr. President, this actually 

 7   clarifies the law.  And it allows either a doctor 

 8   or a podiatrist to be called as a witness.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

10   Krueger.

11                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

12   Mr. President, could the Senator --

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Taking it out, it 

14   clarifies the law.

15                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Could the sponsor 

16   read me the section of civil law and explain why 

17   repealing it clarifies --

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   No, the sponsor 

19   can't at this time.

20                SENATOR KRUEGER:   So the sponsor 

21   and I disagree about the current law, the need to 

22   repeal the law.  

23                But again, my understanding is, for 

24   the record, that this would limit the ability to 

25   potentially call a doctor as an expert witness in 


                                                               2002

 1   a medical malpractice case involving podiatrists.

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   That's not true, 

 3   Mr. President, it would not.

 4                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I know we 

 5   disagree on that, but Senator -- excuse me.  

 6   Through you, Mr. President.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 8   Krueger.

 9                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  The 

10   sponsor won't show me the language being repealed 

11   and explain to me why that wouldn't do that, and 

12   I have asked him and he won't.  

13                And again, my understanding is 

14   podiatrists are not asking for this change.  And 

15   so I want to respectfully point out we passed a 

16   law to give them more authority to do surgery --

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

18   Krueger, are you now speaking on the bill?  

19                SENATOR KRUEGER:   On the bill.  On 

20   the bill.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

22   Krueger on the bill.

23                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you so 

24   much.  

25                 -- that they asked us to change the 


                                                               2003

 1   law, giving them more authority.  We made that a 

 2   law relatively recently, so in fact we don't even 

 3   have enough time to do research about whether 

 4   there are any medical malpractice problems or 

 5   not.  There may be none at all.  

 6                But I certainly don't think that we 

 7   should be repealing a section of law that exists 

 8   and applies to other professions and medical 

 9   malpractice and the standards of civil law in 

10   this state.  And that I can't see a clear 

11   justification for it.  

12                And again, we have no memos in 

13   support or opposition by anyone as far as I 

14   know.  But I have been advised that the 

15   podiatrists are not asking for this change 

16   themselves, and so I really don't understand why 

17   we'd do it at this time.  

18                So I'll be voting no, 

19   Mr. President.  Thank you.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 

21   you, Senator Krueger.

22                Are there any other Senators who 

23   wish to be heard?

24                Seeing none, the debate is closed.  

25                The Secretary will ring the bells.  


                                                               2004

 1   All Senators are asked to proceed immediately to 

 2   the chamber so that we may move forward with the 

 3   roll call.  

 4                The Secretary will read the last 

 5   section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 7   act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

 8   same manner as Chapter 438 of the Laws of 2012.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

13   DeFrancisco to explain his vote.

14                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, I'm 

15   going to vote for this.  

16                And my understanding of what this is 

17   all about is that in the original bill the 

18   wording could have been interpreted as only 

19   allowing physicians to be expert witnesses, and 

20   not podiatrists.  So this amendment basically 

21   conforms to existing law before the podiatrists 

22   bill, insofar as making it clear that an expert 

23   witness could either be a doctor or a podiatrist, 

24   as is the case with any other malpractice case.

25                So I think this is clarifying that.  


                                                               2005

 1   And since it's clarifying that, I think it's a 

 2   good bill.

 3                As a practical matter, having done 

 4   these from time to time, even though a defendant 

 5   can call a podiatrist, I would think if the 

 6   plaintiff was going to be calling a physician, it 

 7   would be pretty risky for the defendant to not to 

 8   call a physician as well in defense.  But it's up 

 9   to the defendant, if this bill passes, and so 

10   it's clear that they could call a podiatrist.  

11                So I think it makes sense.  I vote 

12   yes.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

14   DeFrancisco to be recorded in the affirmative.

15                Announce the results.

16                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17   Calendar Number 322, those recorded in the 

18   negative are Senators Gipson, Hassell-Thompson, 

19   Hoylman, Krueger, O'Brien, Sanders, Serrano and 

20   Tkaczyk.

21                Absent from voting:  Senators Adams, 

22   Breslin, Diaz, Dilan, Espaillat, Farley, LaValle, 

23   Montgomery, Perkins and Ranzenhofer.

24                Ayes, 43.  Nays, 8.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 


                                                               2006

 1   is passed.

 2                Senator Libous, that completes the 

 3   controversial reading of the calendar.

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.  Is there any further business at 

 6   the desk?  

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The desk 

 8   is clear.

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you.  

10                Then there being no further 

11   business, I move that we adjourn until Monday, 

12   April 29th, at 3:00 p.m., intervening days being 

13   legislative days.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   On 

15   motion, the Senate stands adjourned until Monday, 

16   April 29th, at 3:00 p.m., intervening days being 

17   legislative days.

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

20   Libous.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Please tell the 

22   members that the 1:00 o'clock lunch with the 

23   West Point cadets is in Room 332.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Lunch at 

25   1:00 p.m. in Room 332 with the cadets from 


                                                               2007

 1   West Point.  

 2                The Senate stands adjourned.

 3                (Whereupon, at 12:31 p.m., the 

 4   Senate adjourned.)

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