Regular Session - May 6, 2014

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 1               NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4              THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    May 6, 2014

11                     3:45 p.m.

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14                  REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JOSEPH GRIFFO, Acting President

19  FRANCIS W. PATIENCE, Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G 

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 3   Senate will come to order.  

 4                I ask all present to please rise as 

 5   we await the presentation of the colors by the 

 6   Attica Correctional Facility Color Guard.  Colors 

 7   will be held at the back of the chamber, and we 

 8   will face the colors.

 9                (Whereupon, the Color Guard entered 

10   the chamber and presented the colors.)

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Please 

12   join with me as we recite the Pledge of 

13   Allegation to our Flag.

14                (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

15   the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Attica 

17   Correctional Facility Color Guard, retire the 

18   colors.  

19                (Whereupon, the Color Guard exited 

20   the chamber.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Today's 

22   invocation will be offered by the Reverend Peter 

23   G. Young, of the Mother Teresa Community here in 

24   Albany.

25                Father Young.


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 1                REVEREND YOUNG:   Thank you, 

 2   Senator.  

 3                Let us pray.

 4                With the sunshine and the budding 

 5   plants and trees, we see the power of our 

 6   Creator.  We thank You for these gifts.  You, 

 7   O God, have been a blessing, and we thank You for 

 8   the opportunity of our Senators to be called to 

 9   be the caretakers for the many duties needed with 

10   our environment and with the responsibility of 

11   the citizens of New York State, for their safety 

12   and for their economic opportunities.  

13                We have a pride of being called the 

14   Empire State.  And we are now calling upon You to 

15   bless us in this endeavor.  We ask You this now 

16   and forever.  

17                Amen.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

19   you, Father Young.  

20                The reading of the Journal.

21                THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

22   May 5th, the Senate met pursuant to adjournment.  

23   The Journal of Friday, May 2nd, was read and 

24   approved.  On motion, Senate adjourned.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Without 


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 1   objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

 2                Presentation of petitions.

 3                Messages from the Assembly.

 4                Messages from the Governor.

 5                Reports of standing committees.

 6                Reports of select committees.

 7                Communications and reports of state 

 8   officers.

 9                Motions and resolutions.

10                Senator Libous.

11                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, if 

12   you could call on Senator Valesky, then Senator 

13   Gianaris, and then come back to me.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

15   Valesky.

16                SENATOR VALESKY:   Mr. President, 

17   just one motion.  

18                On behalf of Senator Klein, on 

19   page 26 I offer the following amendments to 

20   Calendar Number 397, Senate Bill 2437A, and ask 

21   that said bill retain its place on the Third 

22   Reading Calendar.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

24   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

25   retain its place on third reading.


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 1                Senator Gianaris.

 2                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.

 4                On behalf of Senator Parker, on 

 5   page number 23 I offer the following amendments 

 6   to Calendar 353, Senate Print Number 951, and ask 

 7   that said bill retain its place on Third Reading 

 8   Calendar.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

10   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

11   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

12                Senator Libous.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

14   behalf of Senator Gallivan, on page 20 I offer 

15   the following amendments to Calendar Number 314, 

16   Senate Print 6598A, and ask that said bill retain 

17   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

19   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

20   retain its place on third reading.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.  

23                On behalf of Senator Robach, on 

24   page 23 I offer the following amendments to 

25   Calendar Number 352, Senate Print 6841, and ask 


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 1   that said bill retain its place on the Third 

 2   Reading Calendar.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 4   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

 5   retain its place on third reading.

 6                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

 7   Mr. President.

 8                On behalf of Senator Seward, on 

 9   page 12 I offer the following amendments to 

10   Calendar Number 150, Senate Print 6545, and ask 

11   that said bill retain its place on the Third 

12   Reading Calendar.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

14   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

15   retain its place on third reading.

16                Senator Libous.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, may 

18   we please adopt the Resolution Calendar, with the 

19   exception of Resolutions 4805, by Senator 

20   Kennedy; 4811, by Senator Valesky; 4822, by 

21   Senator Rivera; 4835, by Senator Gallivan; and 

22   4836, by Senator Stavisky.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

24   question is on the adoption of the Resolution 

25   Calendar, with the exception of Resolutions 4805, 


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 1   4811, 4822, 4835, and 4836.  All in favor of 

 2   adopting the Resolution Calendar, with those 

 3   exceptions, indicate by saying aye.

 4                (Response of "Aye.")

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

 6                (No response.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 8   Resolution Calendar is adopted.

 9                Senator Libous.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.  

12                I believe there is a resolution by 

13   Senator Stavisky, Number 4836, at the desk.  I 

14   ask that the title be read and please call on 

15   Senator Stavisky before its adoption.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

17   Secretary will read.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

19   Resolution Number 4836, by Senator Stavisky, 

20   expressing sincerest, heartfelt condolences to 

21   the South Korean community in the wake of the 

22   sinking of the ferry Sewol, which capsized off 

23   the coast of Jindo Island on Wednesday, April 16, 

24   2014.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 


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 1   Stavisky.

 2                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.

 4                On April 16th, the ferry capsized.  

 5   Four hundred forty-three people were on board, 

 6   including 325 students and teachers from Danwon 

 7   High School in South Korea, the Republic of 

 8   Korea.  More than 300 people are still missing.  

 9                And it's to the families both in the 

10   Republic of Korea and in the United States that 

11   we express in this resolution our sincere 

12   condolences, particularly to the families of the 

13   students, because they were on a class trip.  

14   Their parents sent them off on a ferry to visit 

15   this island, and they never came home.  Or many 

16   of them never came home.  

17                And to everybody in the Republic of 

18   Korea we express our sincere sympathy, because so 

19   many people live in New York State who were born 

20   or who have come here from the Republic of Korea.  

21   And it's the sense of unity that exists in 

22   Queens County and in the state, the idea that 

23   when tragedy occurs we all come together -- it's 

24   as though it affects our families.  We think as 

25   parents or as teachers or as neighbors.


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 1                And so we offer this resolution and 

 2   I would request, Mr. President, that it be opened 

 3   in the usual manner for sponsorship.

 4                And I thank you.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

 6   you, Senator Stavisky.

 7                Senator Gianaris.

 8                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                I want to just stand up and thank 

11   Senator Stavisky for putting forward this 

12   resolution.  She represents a very vibrant Korean 

13   community in Queens just to the east of my 

14   district, and she's always been a great champion 

15   on issues of relevance to the Korean community, 

16   and I know there are many of them here today.  

17                So I wanted to thank her for putting 

18   this forward and also express my condolences and 

19   my sympathies for the families that are suffering 

20   as a result of the tragedy that occurred in 

21   Korea.  

22                Thank you.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

24   you, Senator Gianaris.

25                The question is on the resolution.  


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 1   All in favor signify by saying aye.

 2                (Response of "Aye.")

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

 4                (No response.)

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 6   resolution is adopted.

 7                Senator Libous, the sponsor has made 

 8   a request for cosponsorship, for the resolution 

 9   to be open.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Then we shall 

11   allow the cosponsorship to take place.  If 

12   anybody wishes not to be a cosponsor --

13                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Senator Libous, 

14   can we use the usual rule where, if you don't 

15   wish to be a cosponsor, they notify the desk?

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   You took the words 

17   right out of my mouth, Senator.

18                (Laughter.)

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

20   resolution is open for cosponsorship.  Should you 

21   choose not to be a cosponsor, please indicate by 

22   approaching the desk.

23                Senator Libous.

24                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.


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 1                Senate Resolution 4811, by Senator 

 2   Valesky, could we have it read in its entirety 

 3   and then call on Senator Valesky.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 5   Secretary will read.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

 7   Resolution Number 4811, by Senator Valesky, 

 8   memorializing Governor Andrew M. Cuomo to 

 9   proclaim May 6, 2014, as Senior Citizens 

10   Awareness Day in the State of New York.  

11                "WHEREAS, It is the sense of this 

12   Legislative Body to memorialize Governor Andrew 

13   M. Cuomo to proclaim May 6, 2014, as Senior  

14   Citizens Awareness Day in the State of New York, 

15   in conjunction with May being declared as 

16   National Older Americans Month; and

17                "WHEREAS, The more than 3 million 

18   residents of New York State 60 years of age and 

19   older bring a wealth of experience and knowledge 

20   to the increasingly active roles they play in 

21   today's society; their past contributions and 

22   future participation are a vital part of, and 

23   valuable asset to, the fabric of community life 

24   and activity; and 

25                "WHEREAS, These senior citizens have  


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 1   contributed to the state by building and helping 

 2   preserve the customs, traditions and ideals of 

 3   the many ethnic groups that make up the mosaic of 

 4   New York State; and 

 5                "WHEREAS, The wisdom and experience 

 6   of senior citizens constantly enrich the lives of 

 7   the young people of our state through a strong 

 8   tradition of volunteerism; and 

 9                "WHEREAS, Since 1962, the month of 

10   May has been declared, by Presidential 

11   Proclamation, Older Americans Month in order for 

12   communities around the nation to set time aside 

13   to celebrate and reflect on the unique role older 

14   Americans play in the fabric of our society; and 

15                "WHEREAS, The legislative and 

16   executive branches of New York State government 

17   have as a primary goal the improvement of the 

18   quality of life of older New Yorkers and the 

19   assurance of their continued dignity; and 

20                "WHEREAS, It is the intent of this 

21   Legislative Body to recognize and celebrate the 

22   legacy of New York's senior citizens who have 

23   experienced tumultuous changes in the 

24   20th century, including the dawn of the nuclear 

25   age, the rise of the computer, and the 


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 1   proliferation of the automobile, television, 

 2   technology and so many other innovations of the 

 3   American spirit, and who now represent a vast and 

 4   willing source of knowledge available to our 

 5   great State of New York; now, therefore, be it 

 6                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

 7   Body pause in its deliberations to memorialize 

 8   Governor Andrew M. Cuomo to proclaim May 6, 2014, 

 9   as Senior Citizens Awareness Day in the State of 

10   New York; and be it further 

11                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

12   Body pause to honor the seniors in attendance 

13   today:  Robert C. Lamar, Mary Sherman, Eva 

14   Wincek, Gene Wincek, Mary Martello, Donna Barto, 

15   Dale Bryant, Joy Perry, Gladys Benjamin, Linda 

16   Clark, Barbara Martin, Louise McCord, Raeph 

17   Sanderson, Sister Kathleen Heffron, Frank 

18   Bachler, Peg Shafer, Rebecca Shields, Stephen 

19   Tuomey, Laura Davis, Florence Martino, Patricia 

20   Pomerville, Eugene Pomerville, Dale Sells, Betty 

21   Perkins-Carpenter, Ron Travado, Gary Dickerson, 

22   Joseph Gavel, Claire Millman, Robert F. Shively, 

23   Mary Lowry, Irene D'Alessio, Myrtle Muir, Shurny 

24   Parker, Delores Peterkin, Virginia Grady, Rebecca 

25   Ferris, Catherine Spies, Alice McConnell, Norbury 


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 1   Chambers, Frank Pileggi, Stanley Farone, Kenneth 

 2   Dreis, Ellen St. John, George Baum, Anita Mooney, 

 3   James Finn, Lilly Klaver, Bella Shore, Rita D. 

 4   Alonzo, Helen Glen, Richard Dickershaid, Lou 

 5   Grasso, Edwin Guntert, Deanna Urrey, Tony Vickio, 

 6   Father John Downs, Shirley Meek, Robert 

 7   Spaulding, Richard Tabor, Eunice Tabor, Donald 

 8   DuBois, Marie Post, Lucy Abrahams, Robert Dalaba, 

 9   Gail Dewey and Sally Walker; and, further, to 

10   urge the residents of New York State to honor all 

11   our senior citizens, who are the cornerstone of 

12   the strength of our nation and to whom a debt of 

13   gratitude is owed; and be it further 

14                "RESOLVED, That a copy of this 

15   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 

16   the Honorable Andrew M. Cuomo, Governor of the  

17   State of New York."  

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Valesky.

20                SENATOR VALESKY:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.

22                I'm very pleased and proud to once 

23   again offer this resolution today.  This has 

24   become a great tradition here in Albany, the 

25   opportunity to acknowledge and give thanks to so 


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 1   many senior citizens across the state on this 

 2   Senior Citizens Awareness Day.  

 3                The names that were just read with 

 4   this resolution by the Secretary just a moment 

 5   ago, many of those individuals are with us here 

 6   today.  They were brought here to Albany to 

 7   participate in the State Office for the Aging 

 8   commendation ceremony earlier today.  And we have 

 9   some officials here from the State Office for the 

10   Aging, including Acting Director Corinda 

11   Crossdale, Greg Olsen, and others from SOFA.  

12                We had an opportunity to celebrate 

13   their achievements and their accomplishments.  

14   And again, as I indicated, many of them have 

15   joined us here this afternoon to conclude their 

16   day in the Capitol.

17                I know that each and every one of 

18   us, in our daily lives and as we go about our 

19   daily work in our districts, can think of 

20   numerous examples of senior citizens, numerous 

21   examples of senior citizens who are making the 

22   communities that we represent so much better.  

23   The dozens and in fact hundreds and thousands of 

24   not-for-profit organizations that are part of 

25   what make New York State so strong, many of those 


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 1   nonprofits simply would not survive and thrive 

 2   without the efforts, the time, the talent, the 

 3   commitment of our senior citizens.  

 4                And today we set aside and we ask 

 5   the Governor, through this resolution, to 

 6   proclaim today as a day that we set aside to 

 7   honor them and thank them for what they do for 

 8   this great state and this nation.

 9                The resolution that was just read I 

10   think said it best, Mr. President, when it called 

11   these seniors and those just like them across the 

12   state the cornerstone of the strength of our 

13   nation.  They in fact are the cornerstone of the 

14   strength of our nation.  We owe them a great debt 

15   of gratitude.  And we're so very happy that so 

16   many of them could join us today here in the 

17   Senate.  

18                And, Mr. President, I certainly 

19   encourage all of my colleagues today to support 

20   the resolution and join me in cosponsoring that 

21   document.  

22                Thank you.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

24   question is on the resolution.  All in favor 

25   signify by saying aye.


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 1                (Response of "Aye.")

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

 3                (No response.)

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 5   resolution is adopted.  

 6                Senator Libous.  

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

 8   we open up this resolution also.  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

10   resolution is opened up for cosponsorship.  

11   Should you choose not to be a cosponsor, please 

12   indicate by approaching the desk.

13                We welcome all of our visitors, who 

14   I believe are in the west gallery.  Thank you for 

15   being with us today, and we extend the welcome of 

16   the Senate to all of you.

17                (Applause.)

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Libous.

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

21   Resolution Number 4835, by Senator Gallivan, 

22   could we have the title read and then call on 

23   Senator Gallivan for some comments.  And I 

24   believe Senator Carlucci also wants to speak on 

25   this too.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 2   Secretary will read.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

 4   Resolution Number 4835, by Senator Gallivan, 

 5   recognizing the commitment and sacrifices of 

 6   New York State's Corrections Officers, in 

 7   conjunction with the observance of National 

 8   Correctional Officers and Employees Week 2014.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

10   Gallivan on the resolution.

11                SENATOR GALLIVAN:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.

13                I rise to recognize and honor the 

14   over 18,000 sworn members of NYSCOPBA that work 

15   in the correctional facilities across the state, 

16   the 20-plus-thousand active sworn and nonsworn 

17   corrections employees, and those that have 

18   retired, that make up the 27,000 members of 

19   NYSCOPBA, for the work that they do.

20                In 1984, thirty years ago yesterday, 

21   former President Ronald Reagan signed a 

22   proclamation declaring the first full week in May 

23   as National Corrections Officers Week, in honor 

24   of correction officers who put their lives on the 

25   line every day to protect the public from 


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 1   dangerous criminals and help prisoners work 

 2   towards becoming productive members of society.  

 3                It's very appropriate that we 

 4   recognize our state's correction officers, the 

 5   contributions that they make every day to protect 

 6   our citizens from harm, and for the work that 

 7   they do to keep our communities safe.

 8                Their job is very demanding.  

 9   They're responsible for many, many things, 

10   including the care, custody, maintenance of the 

11   incarcerated, of the facilities.  It is so 

12   fitting for us to recognize them today.  

13                And when we look at our corrections 

14   system across the state, we know that many of the 

15   correctional facilities are located in rural 

16   areas across the state.  There's a tremendous 

17   amount of history in many of these facilities.

18                One of those facilities is the 

19   Attica Correctional Facility, a maximum-security/ 

20   supermax prison located in Attica, New York, 

21   constructed in the 1930s.

22                Our honor guard today was from 

23   Attica, the Attica Corrections Color Guard.  The 

24   team's made up of 15 officers, two sergeants, two 

25   lieutenants who are part of the Attica 


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 1   Correctional Emergency Response Team, or CERT 

 2   team.  

 3                These members give up their own time 

 4   and volunteer for the duties on the Color Guard.  

 5   They are available for funerals, they do 

 6   community events, they represent New York State 

 7   nationally with the Correctional Peace Officers 

 8   Foundation, which is a national organization that 

 9   takes care of families of officers who die in the 

10   line of duty or are seriously assaulted.  They've 

11   hosted a national convention, they have traveled 

12   across the country, and they have proudly 

13   represented New York State and the correction 

14   officers in New York State.  They have been doing 

15   this since 1972.

16                So to NYSCOPBA President Donn Rowe, 

17   who is with us, to the members of the Attica 

18   Color Guard, to members of some of the other 

19   facilities that I met with earlier today from 

20   Wyoming, Wende, Collins, Gowanda, Lakeview and 

21   Willard, and all the men and women who help keep 

22   our prisons and our communities safe, I thank you 

23   for the job you do.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

25   you, Senator Gallivan.


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 1                Senator Carlucci.

 2                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.  

 4                And I want to thank Senator Gallivan 

 5   for sponsoring this important resolution.

 6                As was said, our correctional 

 7   officers do so much good work for New York State.  

 8   They walk the hardest beat in New York.  And that 

 9   recognition goes unnoticed, because correctional 

10   officers are in our prisons, making sure they're 

11   keeping our prisons safe and our communities 

12   safe.  But the hard work that they do goes 

13   unnoticed because we don't see them in the 

14   community.

15                So that's why it's so fitting that 

16   we on this floor recognize the hard work the 

17   dedication that they put forward in making sure 

18   they keep our communities safe.

19                And I have the distinct privilege, I 

20   represent the officers at Sing Sing prison and 

21   have gotten to know them and the hard work that 

22   they do to make sure that when someone comes into 

23   Sing Sing that they get the attention that they 

24   deserve, that they need, so that they can be 

25   eventually released and made active partners in 


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 1   society.

 2                So really I want to thank the Attica 

 3   Prison Color Guard that's here today, Donn Rowe, 

 4   Who's in our audience today, thank them for the 

 5   hard work that they do, and that we recognize and 

 6   pay tribute to the hard work that correctional 

 7   officers do here in New York State and around the 

 8   nation.  

 9                Thank you, Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

11   you, Senator Carlucci.

12                Senator Little.

13                SENATOR LITTLE:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.

15                I would like to join my colleagues 

16   as we recognize correction officers throughout 

17   the nation, but particularly correction officers 

18   in New York State.  And I would like to add that 

19   I have many correction officers in my district.  

20   When I first came to the Senate in 2002, I 

21   represented 12 facilities and one federal 

22   facility.  With the reduction in inmates, we're 

23   down to nine facilities and one federal facility.

24                So I have a lot of experience with 

25   the correction officers and the challenges that 


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 1   they have in the work that they do.  We all talk 

 2   about how living in our neighborhoods we all want 

 3   to live in a safe neighborhood.  These men and 

 4   women actually work in a neighborhood that is not 

 5   always safe.  And we have to work hard to see 

 6   that that neighborhood remains safe and, when 

 7   there are problems, to correct those problems.

 8                The other thing I want to recognize 

 9   our correction officers for is for the tremendous 

10   involvement they have in the community.  And many 

11   of them are volunteer firemen, they work as 

12   Little League coaches, they work in the schools 

13   and volunteer in their churches, so many places.  

14   So they are valuable members of our community, 

15   and I truly appreciate the work that they've 

16   done.  

17                We talk about the high recidivism 

18   rate and how to reduce that.  I think that our 

19   correction officers have a lot to do with the way 

20   the inmates leave the correctional facilities, 

21   and I credit them for some of the people who do 

22   not come back to the facility again.

23                So thank you very much.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

25   Marchione.


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 1                SENATOR MARCHIONE:   Thank you.  

 2                I also want to thank Senator 

 3   Gallivan for bringing this resolution forward, 

 4   and to thank our correction officers for all that 

 5   they do.  

 6                And truly what I was also going to 

 7   say, similar to Senator Little, is the presence 

 8   that you've had in our community.  I know about 

 9   wood programs that you've done.  There are people 

10   in our community that can't afford to heat their 

11   homes, and the guards within the Mt. McGregor 

12   facility, they cut wood for 88 families to keep 

13   those families warm.  

14                The Adopt A Soldier program in our 

15   area sends hundreds if not thousands of packages 

16   to overseas military, and these folks are the 

17   ones that to into Adopt A Soldier, pack the bags, 

18   and have such a presence.  

19                So thank you for what you do within 

20   the prisons.  It is so very appreciated.  And 

21   thank you for what you have done outside of the 

22   prisons and in our community.  That does not go 

23   unrecognized where I come from.  

24                So thank you so very much.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 


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 1   Farley.

 2                SENATOR FARLEY:   Yes, I'm just 

 3   going to rise briefly to say that having had 

 4   Mt. McGregor in my district for a number of 

 5   years, this was a facility that was absolutely 

 6   beloved by the community because of the program 

 7   that they had of service to the community.

 8                But I just want to rise to say thank 

 9   you to these correction people that really have 

10   one of the most difficult jobs in our state and 

11   do it for us, to keep us safe, and risk their 

12   lives every day that they go in there.

13                Donn Rowe, who's a constituent of 

14   mine, does a great job representing you here.  

15   And it is with my pleasure that I thank you for 

16   your service.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

18   Bonacic.

19                SENATOR BONACIC:   Thank you, 

20   Mr. President.

21                Not to be repetitive, but one of the 

22   things that I got to know better about the job of 

23   correction officers, I want to say I don't think 

24   they get the respect and enough of the thank-yous 

25   of the job they do.  


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 1                In that profession there's 

 2   tremendous stress, mentally and physically, 

 3   because they are in the prison, like a prisoner, 

 4   when they take care of the prisoners.  

 5                I happen to have six facilities in 

 6   my Senate district.  I used to have eight.  But 

 7   the terrible toll it takes on them, seeing the 

 8   dark side of human nature, and always being in 

 9   the prison.  Yes, they get to leave, they get to 

10   go home.  But that stress is probably greater 

11   than police officers and firefighters.  And 

12   that's why their life expectancy is shorter than 

13   that of a police officer or a firefighter in the 

14   course of their lives.  

15                So on behalf all of our colleagues, 

16   we thank you for the job that you do every day, 

17   even though we might not say thank you every day.  

18                Thank you, Mr. President.  

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

20   Nozzolio.

21                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.

23                Mr. President and my colleagues, for 

24   close to 15 years I served as chairman of the 

25   Crime Victims, Crime and Corrections Committee -- 


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 1   a position that Senator Gallivan now holds -- and 

 2   as such, got to learn about the tremendous work 

 3   done across our state's correctional system by 

 4   the brave men and women who each and every day 

 5   risk their lives to keep us safe and secure.

 6                Mr. President, my colleagues, if 

 7   I've said this once, I've said it many times on 

 8   this floor, that those correction officers from 

 9   the State of New York are the highest of quality, 

10   the highest of caliber, and they walk the 

11   toughest law enforcement beat in America.  They 

12   are the custodians of individuals who in effect 

13   have already broken the law, in many cases are 

14   extremely violent.  And they stand each and every 

15   day protecting us and keeping our streets safe by 

16   also keeping our correctional facilities secure.

17                Our hearts are out to our COs, well 

18   stated by all of our colleagues today who spoke 

19   on their behalf.  They do great service for the 

20   people of this state, and I want them to know 

21   that the people of this state, the people of the 

22   great State of New York, are extremely grateful 

23   to them for their support, their efforts, their 

24   hard work and their courage.  Because each and 

25   every day they act courageously by simply going 


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 1   to work.  

 2                Mr. President, it's a fitting 

 3   tribute to them.  Later we will be celebrating, 

 4   in effect, the Correction Officers Memorial, one 

 5   that Donn Rowe, as president of NYSCOPBA, worked 

 6   very hard with us in the Senate to achieve that 

 7   recognition, recognition long overdue, but 

 8   recognition deserved because they do, as I 

 9   indicated, walk the toughest law enforcement beat 

10   in America.

11                Thank you, Mr. President.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

13   you, Senator Nozzolio.

14                The question is on the resolution. 

15   All in favor signify by saying aye.

16                (Response of "Aye.")

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

18                (No response.)

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

20   resolution is adopted.

21                I want to welcome the members of the 

22   correctional officers who are in attendance 

23   today.  We thank you for your work and thank you 

24   for your service.

25                (Standing ovation.)


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Libous.  

 3                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

 4   could we also open this resolution up.  We'll put 

 5   all members on it.  And if for some reason a 

 6   member wishes not to be on, just please let the 

 7   desk know.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 9   resolution is open to all.  If you are inclined 

10   not to be a cosponsor, please indicate by 

11   notifying the desk.

12                Senator Libous.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I believe there's 

14   a privileged resolution at the desk by 

15   Senator Seward, Number 4858.  Could we have it 

16   read in its entirety and call on Senator Seward.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

18   Secretary will read.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

20   Resolution Number 4858, by Senator Seward, 

21   mourning the untimely death of Sergeant Shawn 

22   Farrell II of Accord, New York, and paying 

23   tribute to his courageous actions as a member of 

24   the United States Army.  

25                "WHEREAS, The courage and bravery of 


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 1   our military personnel since the United States 

 2   Armed Forces commenced action in the Middle East 

 3   will ensure our continued role as a nation which 

 4   embodies the ideals of democracy, and as a 

 5   defender of liberty for people throughout the 

 6   world; and 

 7                "WHEREAS, It is with feelings of 

 8   deepest regret that this Legislative Body mourns 

 9   the untimely death of Sergeant Shawn Farrell II, 

10   and pays tribute to his courageous actions as a 

11   member of the United States Army; and 

12                "WHEREAS, Sergeant Shawn Farrell II, 

13   of Accord, New York, died on April 28, 2014, at 

14   the age of 24, while honorably serving his 

15   country in Nejrab District, Kapisa Province, 

16   Afghanistan; and 

17                "WHEREAS, Sergeant Shawn Farrell was 

18   born in Kingston, New York, and was a 2008 

19   graduate of Rondout Valley High School; inspired 

20   by family members who served before him and the 

21   events of 9/11, this patriotic young man joined a  

22   United States Army Reserve Unit in Bullville, 

23   New York, during his senior year in high school 

24   and, immediately following graduation, went to 

25   active duty, training at Fort Benning, Georgia, 


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 1   before being assigned to Fort Riley in Kansas; 

 2   and 

 3                "WHEREAS, Sergeant Shawn Farrell was 

 4   a 10th Mountain Division Soldier with 

 5   1st Battalion, 32nd Infantry Regiment, 3rd 

 6   Brigade Combat Team; he arrived at Fort Drum in 

 7   May 2010 and deployed to Afghanistan in support 

 8   of Operation Enduring Freedom from March 2011 to 

 9   March 2012; he left for his second tour of duty 

10   in Afghanistan in November 2013; and 

11                "WHEREAS, Sergeant Shawn Farrell 

12   served with distinction; his awards and 

13   decorations include the Army Commendation Medal, 

14   two Army Achievement Medals, the Army Good 

15   Conduct Medal, the National Defense Service  

16   Medal, two Afghanistan Campaign Medals, the 

17   Noncommissioned Officers Professional Development 

18   Ribbon, the Army Service Ribbon, the Overseas 

19   Service Ribbon, the NATO Medal, the Combat 

20   Infantryman Badge, the Expert Infantryman Badge, 

21   and the Air Assault Badge; in addition, this 

22   courageous soldier was posthumously awarded the 

23   Purple Heart medal; and 

24                "WHEREAS, Beloved by his community, 

25   Sergeant Shawn Farrell will be remembered for his 


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 1   dedication to his family, his love of the 

 2   outdoors, and his generosity of spirit; he is 

 3   survived by his wife, Allison Hilbrandt Farrell; 

 4   parents, Shawn Farrell and Tracy Kelleher, and 

 5   Heather and David Stokes; three brothers, Brandon 

 6   and Jake Farrell, and David Stokes II; sisters, 

 7   Jenna and Aidan Farrell, and two nieces, Sophie 

 8   and Aubrey Farrell; as well as his mother and 

 9   father-in-law, Mechelle and Brian Hilbrandt; and 

10   his sister-in-law Hannah Hilbrandt, and many 

11   aunts, uncles, cousins, and friends; and 

12                "WHEREAS, Residents of this great 

13   state must never forget the courage with which 

14   our men and women served this country, and must 

15   recognize that no greater debt is owed than that 

16   owed to those who give of their lives for their 

17   beloved nation; and 

18                "WHEREAS, The freedoms and security 

19   we cherish as Americans come at a very high price 

20   for those serving in the military in times of 

21   conflict; it is fitting and proper that we who 

22   are the beneficiaries of those who risk their  

23   lives, leaving their families behind, express our 

24   appreciation and eternal gratitude for their 

25   sacrifices and courageous acts; now, therefore, 


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 1   be it 

 2                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

 3   Body pause in its deliberations to mourn the 

 4   untimely death of Sergeant Shawn Farrell II, of 

 5   Accord, New York, and to pay tribute to his 

 6   courageous actions as a member of the United 

 7   States Army; and be it further 

 8                "RESOLVED, That a copy of this  

 9   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 

10   the family of Sergeant Shawn Farrell II."

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

12   Seward.

13                SENATOR SEWARD:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.

15                Through the passage of this 

16   resolution today we honor the memory of United 

17   States Army Sergeant Shawn M. Farrell II, who was 

18   a resident of my portion of Ulster County.  He 

19   was a young patriot who gave his life for his 

20   country.

21                Shawn was a courageous and dedicated 

22   young man committed to the ideals that our nation 

23   was founded upon:  Life, liberty and freedom and 

24   service.  

25                He knew from an early age that he 


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 1   wanted to serve his country as a member of the 

 2   United States armed forces.  Shawn joined the 

 3   Army National Guard Reserves as soon as he turned 

 4   the age of 17, while still attending high school 

 5   at Rondout Valley High School.  You know, after 

 6   graduation he upped his commitment and went on to 

 7   active duty.

 8                In just a short time in uniform, 

 9   Shawn earned a number of awards and decorations.  

10   You know, Shawn was serving his second tour of 

11   duty in support of Operation Enduring Freedom 

12   when he was tragically killed by enemy forces in 

13   Afghanistan.  He served with courage, bravery and 

14   valor, and he made the ultimate sacrifice in 

15   service of his country.

16                Sergeant Shawn Farrell's memory 

17   lives on through his young bride, Allison, his 

18   parents, Heather Stokes and Shawn Farrell, and 

19   his three brothers and two sisters.

20                You know, I hope that Shawn's family 

21   can take some comfort in knowing that through the 

22   passage of this resolution, over 19 million 

23   New Yorkers join in mourning his loss and also 

24   honoring his life.  Shawn Farrell is the 

25   definition of an American hero, and he will be 


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 1   greatly missed.

 2                Thank you, Mr. President.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 4   Bonacic.

 5                SENATOR BONACIC:   Thank you, 

 6   Mr. President.

 7                You know, it's a day of mixed 

 8   emotions.  We honored the correction officers 

 9   earlier at a luncheon.  We honored some terrific 

10   seniors under the leadership of Senator Valesky.  

11   And then we go to the wall of heroes with the 

12   police today, and we see 20 names that have been 

13   put on the wall who have been killed in the line 

14   of duty for protecting us.  And today a young man 

15   of 23 years of age, serving in the military, who 

16   makes the ultimate sacrifice.  

17                This young man was from Ulster 

18   County.  And Senator Seward, I want to thank him 

19   for taking the lead on this.  And I know Senator 

20   Larkin will probably be saying some words.  We 

21   intend to go to the military service on Thursday 

22   morning to pay our respects.  

23                And I know every member in this 

24   chamber has pain and a heavy heart because of 

25   this loss.  And it saddens all of us when any one 


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 1   of us have to stand up and talk of a fallen hero 

 2   that protects our freedoms and our way of life.

 3                I have spoken to the family, and 

 4   quite frankly our words seem inadequate, pale, 

 5   compared to the ultimate sacrifice that this 

 6   young man has made for our way of life.  But to 

 7   his family, to his memory, 12 medals, ribbons and 

 8   badges, a Purple Heart posthumously.  Truly a 

 9   hero, and we will remember him forever.

10                Thank you, Mr. President.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

12   Larkin.

13                SENATOR LARKIN:   Mr. President, the 

14   first thing I want to do is congratulate Jim and 

15   John for some outstanding remarks.

16                You know, I don't mean to insult 

17   anybody, but I know for a fact that John and I 

18   have been at Stewart Airport on many occasions in 

19   the last few years.  And when you start to see 

20   the family, it's tough.  I've had to write home 

21   to a mother and say "Your son was killed" -- 

22   19 years old.  Here we're talking about a kid six 

23   years out of high school, volunteered.  That 

24   brave American soldier.

25                I don't think this country cares 


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 1   enough about our soldiers, to be honest with you.  

 2   And I don't care who disagrees with me.  But 

 3   until you've been in that foxhole, you'll never 

 4   understand what they go through.  The decorations 

 5   that this young man achieved are tremendous.  But 

 6   the family will be set to live with the flag and 

 7   a Purple Heart.  

 8                There's almost 2 million Americans 

 9   have been killed or wounded in combat since the 

10   start of World War II.  Here we are adding 

11   another one to it.  The question is, when do we 

12   stop?  When do we say enough is enough?  When do 

13   we stop lying about what we're doing in all parts 

14   of the world?  When do we say we will protect 

15   those we send?  

16                It's a tough thing.  But I tell you, 

17   the scars of those parents and those friends will 

18   last a long time.  And if you have any sympathy 

19   for this family, before you go to bed tonight, 

20   say a prayer.  Because the next days, it's going 

21   to be very tough until they put that casket in 

22   the ground and say goodbye to their loved one.

23                Thank you.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

25   question is on the resolution.  


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 1                All in favor say aye.

 2                (Response of "Aye.")

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

 4                (No response.)

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 6   resolution is adopted.  

 7                Senator Libous.  

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

 9   before we -- I want to open this up, too, to all 

10   the members.  And if there's any member who 

11   chooses not to go on it, let the desk know.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   So noted.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   But as we've done 

14   in the past, could I have the members rise for a 

15   moment of silence on behalf of Sergeant Shawn 

16   Farrell.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   I ask all 

18   members to please rise in a moment of tribute and 

19   honor to Sergeant Shawn Farrell II.

20                (Whereupon, the assemblage rose and 

21   respected a moment of silence.)

22                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

25   Libous.


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 1                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I believe there's 

 2   a resolution at the desk by Senator Kennedy, 

 3   Number 4805.  Could you have it read in its 

 4   entirety and call on Senator Kennedy, please.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 6   Secretary will read.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

 8   Resolution Number 4805, by Senator Kennedy, 

 9   mourning the death of Francis William Sullivan, 

10   distinguished citizen and devoted member of his 

11   community.  

12                "WHEREAS, It is the custom of this 

13   Legislative Body to pay tribute to citizens of 

14   the State of New York whose lifework and civic 

15   endeavor served to enhance the quality of life in 

16   their communities and the great State of 

17   New York; and 

18                "WHEREAS, Francis William Sullivan 

19   of Buffalo, New York, died on Tuesday, 

20   December 3, 2013, at the age of 90; and 

21                "WHEREAS, Born on July 31, 1923, to 

22   William and Mary (Lillis) Sullivan, Francis 

23   William Sullivan was one of nine children; he was 

24   educated by the Sisters of St. Francis at Our 

25   Lady of Perpetual Help School, and attended 


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 1   Our Lady of Victory High School and St. Mary's 

 2   Business School in Buffalo, New York; and 

 3                "WHEREAS, In 1942, Francis William 

 4   Sullivan joined the United States Navy, where he 

 5   served for four years on an ammunition ship and 

 6   an aircraft carrier in the South Pacific during 

 7   the Second World War; and 

 8                "WHEREAS, Francis William Sullivan 

 9   married his loving wife, Doris Murphy, in 1947, 

10   and together they raised seven children in 

11   South Buffalo; and 

12                "WHEREAS, Known for his hard work, 

13   great humor and generosity, Francis William 

14   Sullivan was a true family man whose commitment 

15   to excellence, and his spirit of humanity, 

16   carried over into all fields of enterprise, 

17   including charitable and civic endeavors; and 

18                "WHEREAS, Francis William Sullivan 

19   worked at Allied Chemical for 30 years, as well 

20   as Buffalo Raceway and Memorial Auditorium with 

21   four of his brothers for 40 years; and 

22                "WHEREAS, This exemplary man 

23   distinguished himself in his profession and by 

24   his sincere dedication and substantial 

25   contribution to the welfare of his community; and 


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 1                "WHEREAS, Predeceased by his sister 

 2   Catherine and brother-in-law Robert, Francis 

 3   William Sullivan is survived by his wife of 66 

 4   years, Doris; children, Anne Marie (Joseph),  

 5   Madonna (Daniel), Kathleen (Charles), Mary 

 6   (Patrick), Jeanne (Michael), Michael (Barbara), 

 7   and Francis Jr. (Tami); 19 grandchildren and four  

 8   great-grandchildren; sister, Margaret; and 

 9   brothers, James, William, John, Joseph, Donald 

10   and Edward; as well as many nieces and nephews; 

11   and 

12                "WHEREAS,  Armed with a humanistic 

13   spirit, imbued with a sense of compassion, and 

14   comforted by a loving family, Francis  William  

15   Sullivan leaves behind a legacy which will long 

16   endure the passage of time and will remain as a 

17   comforting memory to all he served and 

18   befriended; now, therefore, be it 

19                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

20   Body pause in its deliberations to mourn the 

21   death of Francis William Sullivan, distinguished 

22   citizen and devoted member of his community; and 

23   be it further 

24                "RESOLVED, That a copy of this 

25   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 


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 1   the family of Francis William Sullivan."

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 3   Kennedy.

 4                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.  

 6                I rise today to honor the life of 

 7   Francis William Sullivan, who passed away on 

 8   December 3, 2013, at the good old age of 90.  

 9   What a beautiful life.

10                We're joined here today by 

11   Mr. Sullivan's family, his wife of 66 years -- if 

12   you could stand.  They're with us here in the 

13   gallery.  His wife of 66 years, Doris.  His 

14   daughters, Donna Mulvaney, Kathleen Burke, Jean 

15   Costello, and granddaughter Kathryn Hanrahan, 

16   three generations of Mr. Sullivan's family.  

17                He was the consummate gentleman, one 

18   of great generosity and humor, one that gave back 

19   to the community, but someone who taught us the 

20   value of hard work, someone who taught us the 

21   value of integrity, someone who put his faith, 

22   his family, and his community before himself, 

23   someone who helped to build the City of Buffalo 

24   and Western New York, someone we were proud to 

25   call our neighbor, a Western New Yorker and a 


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 1   New Yorker.  

 2                He fought for our country, he fought 

 3   for our community.  And we thank him and his 

 4   family for the many contributions that he gave to 

 5   this great Empire State, helping it to become 

 6   what it is today.  We reflect on his life and his 

 7   contributions.  We thank his family for making 

 8   the trip down from Buffalo, New York, to join us 

 9   here today on the floor of the Senate as we honor 

10   his life.  

11                And we ask, Mr. President, that this 

12   be open for cosponsorship by the entirety of this 

13   honorable body.  May he rest in peace.  

14                Thank you.  

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

16   you, Senator Kennedy.

17                The question is on the resolution. 

18   All in favor signify by saying aye.

19                (Response of "Aye.")

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

21                (No response.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

23   resolution is adopted.  

24                We welcome the family of Francis 

25   William Sullivan, and we offer our condolences.


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 1                Senator Marcellino.

 2                SENATOR MARCELLINO:   May we have 

 3   the reading of the next resolution, Number 4822, 

 4   by Senator Rivera, read it in its entirety, and 

 5   then call on Senator Rivera to speak.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 7   previous resolution is open for cosponsorship.  

 8   Should you choose not to be a cosponsor, please 

 9   notify the desk.

10                And the Secretary will read 

11   Resolution 4822.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

13   Resolution Number 4822, by Senator Rivera, 

14   commending Monroe College upon the occasion of 

15   being ranked the top regional university by 

16   exceeding predicted graduation rates by U.S. News 

17   and World Report.

18                "WHEREAS, It is the sense of this 

19   Legislative Body to recognize and honor those 

20   exemplary institutions of higher education within 

21   the State of New York for their commitment to the 

22   pursuit of academic excellence; and 

23                "WHEREAS, Attendant to such concern,  

24   and in full accord with its long-standing 

25   traditions, this Legislative Body is justly proud 


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 1   to commend Monroe College upon the occasion of 

 2   being ranked the top regional university for 

 3   exceeding predicted graduation rates by U.S.  

 4   News & World Report; the designation was reported 

 5   in the newsmagazine's '2014 Best Colleges' 

 6   rankings; and 

 7                "WHEREAS, Founded in the Bronx, 

 8   New York, in 1933, Monroe College is a nationally 

 9   ranked private institution of higher learning, 

10   offering certificate, associate, bachelor's, and  

11   master's degree programs; it opened its 

12   New Rochelle campus in 1983, operates a small 

13   campus in St. Lucia, and has about 600 students 

14   enrolled online; and 

15                "WHEREAS, Monroe College was 

16   recognized by U.S. News & World Report as the 

17   regional university with the largest difference 

18   between predicted and actual graduation rates; 

19   based on the students served, their test scores, 

20   and other key factors, Monroe College's estimated 

21   graduation rate was 27 percent, but the actual 

22   rate was 65 percent, 38 points above what was 

23   predicted; this ranked Monroe first among 

24   regional universities that performed above 

25   expectations; and 


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 1                "WHEREAS, Schools with an actual 

 2   graduation rate that exceeds the predicted rate 

 3   are seen as boosting student achievement and, as 

 4   a result, perform better in the rankings; Monroe 

 5   College's outstanding commitment to its students 

 6   is evidenced in the comprehensive support system 

 7   it offers students, including personal counselors 

 8   assigned to students at varying stages in their 

 9   academic journeys, as well as the flexibility 

10   offered to adult students who face the everyday  

11   challenges of juggling work and family; and 

12                "WHEREAS, Monroe College was also 

13   cited as having one of the best online bachelor's 

14   degree programs in the nation, one of five 

15   programs that made the list in the New York 

16   metropolitan area; and 

17                "WHEREAS, According to the New York 

18   State Education Department's Office of Research 

19   and Information Systems, Monroe College graduates 

20   more minority students than any other college in 

21   New York State; and 

22                "WHEREAS, Monroe College, along with 

23   its President, Stephen Jerome, is deserving of 

24   the highest commendation for its evident  

25   commitment to the well-being of its students; 


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 1   now, therefore, be it 

 2                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

 3   Body pause in its deliberations to commend 

 4   Monroe College upon the occasion of being ranked 

 5   the top regional university for exceeding 

 6   predicted graduation rates by U.S. News & World 

 7   Report, fully confident that in its future, it 

 8   will enjoy the same success which has so 

 9   characterized its past; and be it further 

10                "RESOLVED, That a copy of this 

11   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 

12   Stephen Jerome, President, Monroe College."

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

14   Rivera.

15                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.

17                My colleagues, it was only last week 

18   that we were here celebrating, last Monday, 

19   Bronx Day.  We were talking about all the great 

20   things that the Bronx has in New York City and 

21   that it brings to New York State.  We were 

22   talking about -- whether it was the Yankees or 

23   talking about Fordham Road and all its 

24   businesses, about the Bronx Zoo, the Garden, 

25   et cetera, et cetera -- we talked about all these 


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 1   different institutions.  

 2                One that we did not mention last 

 3   week, because I wanted to make sure that they had 

 4   a day for themselves, was Monroe College.  

 5                Now, Monroe College has been in the 

 6   Bronx for the last 80 years, founded in 1933 by a 

 7   woman.  And at the time, having maybe around nine 

 8   students.  It was a bold move to make for a woman 

 9   back then.  She founded this college, and it has 

10   existed in the Bronx for the last 80 years, right 

11   in the heart of my district, across the street 

12   from St. James Park on Jerome Avenue.  I invite 

13   you all to come and visit.  

14                But the great thing about this 

15   college that I wanted to point out today was the 

16   fact that -- because they are great every day.  

17   But just a couple of months ago, U.S. News and 

18   World Report found that when they took the 

19   demographics of the folks that go to this college 

20   and they compared it all across other colleges in 

21   the region, they saw that what they expected as 

22   far as graduation rates, they had exceeded by 

23   38 points.  And that right there tells you what 

24   an excellent institution this is.

25                Now, we have a couple of folks that 


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 1   are joining us here from Jerome -- I'm sorry, 

 2   from Monroe College.  I get confused for two 

 3   reasons on Jerome.  Number one, because it is on 

 4   Jerome Avenue.  And because the president of the 

 5   institution is Steve Jerome, who's here with us 

 6   today, back there.  

 7                And we are joined not only by 

 8   Stephen Jerome but also by his able vice 

 9   president, Roberta Greenberg, and I want to 

10   definitely point her out.  She is over here with 

11   us.  

12                But most importantly, we are joined 

13   by a few students who go to Monroe College and 

14   can personally attest to the quality not only of 

15   the education but of all the services that are 

16   provided for them.  And these were folks that 

17   were, most of them, born and raised in the Bronx, 

18   with full families, and pursuing an academic 

19   career that is going to make them and their 

20   families do better for the future.  So I'll 

21   briefly speak a little bit about each of them.  

22                First of all, Avy Mills, Ms. Mills.  

23   Could you stand up for a second?  Ms. Mills.  She 

24   is currently -- not only is she assistant to the 

25   vice president of student affairs, Ms. Greenberg, 


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 1   who I just introduced, but she's also seeking a 

 2   master's degree in marketing.  So we're soon 

 3   going to have to call her Master Mills.  Thank 

 4   you, Ms. Mills.  

 5                Mr. Vaughn McBean -- where are you, 

 6   Mr. McBean?  That gentleman right there -- who 

 7   has never been to Albany before, and this is the 

 8   first day that he has been up here.  I'm very 

 9   glad to have him on the Senate floor.  Mr. McBean 

10   is actually a native of Jamaica, and he currently 

11   lives in the Bronx.  I will throw up the X again, 

12   as I have done in the past.

13                (Laughter.)

14                SENATOR RIVERA:   Now, he is an 

15   information technology student, so he is the type 

16   of dude that you have to thank when your 

17   computers work, when we're actually getting the 

18   cameras here to be able to record us.  That is 

19   the type of gentleman that makes sure that we 

20   work.  

21                So Mr. McBean is going to graduate 

22   from there just shortly, and then he's going to 

23   pursue a master's degree in business management 

24   at Ohio State University this fall.  So that's 

25   another one of the great students that we have 


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 1   there from Monroe.  

 2                And then we have what I call the 

 3   Samanthas, because we have two Samanthas with us 

 4   today.  First of all, we have Samantha Alvarado.  

 5   Where are you, Ms. Alvarado?  Over here.  

 6                Ms. Alvarado, she grew up most of 

 7   her life in Washington Heights, and she has a 

 8   father who owns a successful business that, among 

 9   other things, makes keys.  It's a couple of 

10   blocks from my office, so she asked me who makes 

11   the keys for my office so I'll make sure to go to 

12   her father's business.  

13                She is married, with two children, 

14   is pursuing a four-year registered nurse's 

15   degree, and just in a few weeks she is going to 

16   go to San Salvador, with doctors from Montefiore 

17   Medical Center as well as other medical 

18   facilities in the Bronx, to provide service down 

19   there in El Salvador to children that are getting 

20   heart transplants done.  That is the type of work 

21   that she does, and that demonstrates the type of 

22   student that we have at Monroe College.  

23                And last but not least, the other 

24   Samantha, Samantha Vega.  Now, Samantha is 

25   somebody who was born and raised in the Bronx, 


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 1   this lady right here.  She graduates in June with 

 2   a degree in criminal justice with a minor in 

 3   human services.  She's applied to Columbia 

 4   University, Fordham University and Hunter 

 5   College.  Let's cross our fingers for Ms. Vega.  

 6   And she is pursuing her degree in social work, 

 7   and she is definitely going to be making a 

 8   difference in the Bronx.

 9                So these four students, these 

10   fantastic students, and obviously Stephen Jerome, 

11   the president, are more of the things that we are 

12   proud of in the Bronx.  So I'm extremely proud, 

13   Mr. President, to be able to bring them to the 

14   floor today to talk about this exemplary 

15   institution with exemplary students.  

16                And the greatest thing about the 

17   Bronx is the type of folks that they graduate.  

18   All the folks that are graduating, most of them 

19   come right back to the Bronx.  They're from the 

20   Bronx, they come back to the Bronx and do great 

21   work there and make our borough a little bit 

22   better every single day.  

23                So as I told my colleagues before, 

24   come and visit.  It would be great to see you.  

25                So thank you, Mr. President.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Hassell-Thompson.

 3                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

 4   you, Mr. President.

 5                I rise to support this resolution on 

 6   behalf of my colleague, but certainly on behalf 

 7   of Monroe College and the work that it does in 

 8   our communities.  

 9                They've not only done extraordinary 

10   things in the college arena, but when I first 

11   came to the Senate, my predecessor used to teach 

12   a class and brought high school students to 

13   Monroe.  And it was a great readiness situation 

14   for them to see what it meant to be in college 

15   life, and to be in school and really know 

16   probably for the first time, first generations, 

17   to know that they could have the opportunity to 

18   go to college.  So to be a part of that kind of 

19   program said a lot for them as a student but 

20   certainly for the work of that institution.

21                Monroe is also in the Westchester 

22   community and in St. Lucia, as you heard, and 

23   just expanding all over the place.  I tease them 

24   that they're trying to become the Columbia of 

25   Westchester County.  


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 1                But I appreciate it, again, because 

 2   of the high rate of students that not only get 

 3   in, but finish, because graduating becomes of 

 4   major importance to our students.  Many of our 

 5   students go to college not quite ready.  Monroe 

 6   makes sure that if they come unready, they get 

 7   them ready.  And then they help them to make sure 

 8   that they graduate.  And that makes a tremendous 

 9   difference in terms of truly having a successful 

10   experience in the college environment.

11                So I appreciate Senator Gustavo 

12   Rivera for bringing the resolution, but certainly 

13   for giving all of you an opportunity to see the 

14   glorious things that we're doing in the Bronx and 

15   Westchester for our young people.  

16                Thank you, Monroe.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

18   Latimer.

19                SENATOR LATIMER:   Thank you, 

20   Mr. President.

21                I stand in support of Senator 

22   Rivera's resolution.  And of course he praises 

23   the Bronx, which is worthy of praise.  The Bronx 

24   is where I got to go to college, at Fordham 

25   University.  The Bronx is where I got my first 


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 1   full-time job and my first girlfriend in the 

 2   Bronx.

 3                (Laughter.)

 4                SENATOR LATIMER:   However, I 

 5   represent Westchester County, and I'm very proud 

 6   to represent the fine city of New Rochelle.  And 

 7   everything that my colleague said about Monroe's 

 8   impact in the Bronx can be repeated, at length, 

 9   about the impact that this institution has had 

10   with their presence in the City of New Rochelle.  

11                In the East Main Street corridor, 

12   the presence of Monroe College, which is growing, 

13   has made a tremendous economic impact and 

14   development impact in downtown New Rochelle, with 

15   the various athletic teams and the various 

16   programs, including their particularly innovative 

17   culinary program of culinary arts.  

18                So Senator Rivera has said it all.  

19   Senator Hassell-Thompson has added to that.  Let 

20   me just say that the reach and the scope of 

21   Monroe College is not limited only to the 

22   boogie-down Bronx but to buttoned-down 

23   Westchester.

24                (Laughter.)

25                SENATOR LATIMER:   We join forces to 


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 1   thank Mr. Jerome, his family, the people at 

 2   Monroe College and the students at Monroe College 

 3   for their impact across the dotted line that 

 4   actually unites us.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   Stavisky.

 7                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.  

 9                My district is sort of contiguous to 

10   the Bronx, if you include the bridges.  But I met 

11   with the folks from Jerome College on several 

12   occasions -- I'm sorry, what did I say?  Why are 

13   we saying Jerome?  Monroe's first name was James.  

14   Jerome, it's close.

15                (Laughter.)

16                SENATOR STAVISKY:   I met with the 

17   folks from Monroe College several times within 

18   the last year or so.  And I am proud to say that 

19   they have a presence in Queens County, in 

20   Flushing, as part of an educational complex.  

21   They are open to students of great diversity, 

22   great ethnic variations.  And they represent the 

23   best, amongst the best in the proprietary 

24   colleges.  

25                And I believe I recall a story in 


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 1   the New York Times where -- everybody seems to be 

 2   critical of the colleges, but the story in the 

 3   New York Times pointed out that their graduation 

 4   rates were good, that the successes that they've 

 5   had have been good.  

 6                And I too want to congratulate the 

 7   college on -- I don't make the same mistake 

 8   twice -- Monroe College on being a presence not 

 9   just in the Bronx, which is where you started -- 

10   and I have some ties to the Bronx; I went to 

11   school in the Bronx also, high school -- but 

12   you're spreading out.  

13                And as a Queens legislator, we 

14   welcome the folks from Monroe College and we hope 

15   you'll expand even further.  As Flushing is 

16   growing, so will the college grow.  

17                And I thank you for coming to Albany 

18   and wish you the best of luck.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

20   Espaillat.

21                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.

23                Well, Monroe College doesn't only 

24   belong to the Bronx or Westchester, as many other 

25   students come from Northern Manhattan.  And so I 


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 1   want to thank the institution for the fine 

 2   service that they provide to these students.  The 

 3   graduation rates speak for themselves.  Every so 

 4   often I get the opportunity to walk down my house 

 5   near Baker Field and see the hundreds of folks 

 6   that are graduating from their college, and it's 

 7   an impressive sight.  

 8                And I congratulate Mr. Monroe and -- 

 9   Mr. Jerome and Monroe College for the services 

10   that you provide to many young people that 

11   otherwise will not be able to go anywhere.  And 

12   so you are filling a gap that I think is very 

13   important for all of us.  

14                Thank you so much, Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

16   LaValle.

17                SENATOR LaVALLE:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.

19                I've heard that Monroe College is a 

20   great resource for the Bronx.  Right?  Wrong.  

21   Partially right.  It's a great resource for the 

22   entire state.  Steve Jerome, who's the president, 

23   does an incredible job, because he is very 

24   concerned about each and every student.  

25                At Monroe College they want to make 


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 1   sure that students who get their education can 

 2   take that education and get a job, add value to 

 3   the community, add value to the economy.  And so 

 4   they do very well in so many areas, whether it's 

 5   in athletics or academics, or human value in 

 6   being good people that will get into a good job 

 7   and make themselves and their parents and family 

 8   and friends proud of them.

 9                So it's a great pleasure to rise and 

10   speak on this occasion.  And, Senator Rivera, 

11   thank you for the opportunity for us to recognize 

12   a great educational institution.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

14   you, Senator LaValle.

15                The question is on the resolution. 

16   All in favor signify by saying aye.

17                (Response of "Aye.")

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

19                (No response.)

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

21   resolution is adopted.

22                We welcome all those from 

23   Monroe College who are in attendance today.  

24   Thank you very much for being here.

25                (Applause.)


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 1                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 2   believe the sponsor would like this resolution 

 3   opened for all members of the Senate.  And if 

 4   someone chooses not to go on the resolution, to 

 5   please let the desk know.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 7   resolution is open for cosponsorship.  Should you 

 8   choose not to be a cosponsor, indicate by 

 9   approaching the desk.

10                Senator Libous.

11                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, if 

12   we could return to reports of standing 

13   committees, I believe there's a report of the 

14   Finance Committee at the desk.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

16   Secretary will read the report of the 

17   Finance Committee.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Senator 

19   DeFrancisco, from the Committee on Finance, 

20   reports the following nominations.  

21                As commissioner of the Department of 

22   Agriculture and Markets, Richard Ball, of 

23   Schoharie.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

25   DeFrancisco.


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 1                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, I move 

 2   the nomination.

 3                Mr. Ball went through the 

 4   Finance Committee under intense questioning from 

 5   many of the members.  And by that questioning, it 

 6   became apparent that he is very, very well 

 7   qualified for this job.  In fact, someone 

 8   referred to him as "the farmers' agriculture 

 9   commissioner," since he is one and he intimately 

10   knows the business.  

11                More importantly, he knows the 

12   state.  Under many questions from our New York 

13   City delegation, he not only was aware of the 

14   programs that they talked about, but was aware of 

15   who ran them, many of whom were personal friends 

16   of his.  

17                So it's a great pleasure to move his 

18   nomination.  And I would request that you would 

19   recognize, Mr. President, Senator Richie to 

20   second the nomination.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

22   Ritchie.

23                SENATOR RITCHIE:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.  

25                And I'd like to start by thanking 


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 1   Governor Cuomo for such a tremendous appointment.  

 2                I had the opportunity to meet 

 3   Richard for the first time when I toured 

 4   Schoharie Valley after the devastation from 

 5   Hurricane Irene.  And I have to tell you, from 

 6   the moment I got there, it was pretty eye-opening 

 7   for me.  There was a lot of chaos on the ground, 

 8   even at Richard's farm.  

 9                But what struck me was not only did 

10   he talk about the issues of the farmers of the 

11   area, but he talked about the community as a 

12   whole and his ideas of how to get them back on 

13   their feet.  

14                And, you know, I guess for me to see 

15   his greenhouse opened up, and clothes and canned 

16   goods -- and even a woman there getting diapers 

17   at his greenhouse -- trying to help the community 

18   get back on its feet, maybe that would help 

19   answer some of the questions at today's 

20   Finance Committee meeting about what this 

21   gentleman is really about.

22                He has made his livelihood as a 

23   farmer since he was 18 years old.  He operates a 

24   200-acre farm.  He's on the cutting edge.  I know 

25   Senator Krueger and myself have had a number of 


                                                               2164

 1   conversations about trying to connect upstate 

 2   producers to New York City, and this gentleman 

 3   has been on the cutting edge, he's been able to 

 4   do that.  We hope to work together to extend that 

 5   to other parts of the state.

 6                You know, when I think about a 

 7   farmer, I think about somebody who's ready to dig 

 8   in, somebody who is always there to lend a 

 9   helping hand, somebody who's really compassionate 

10   about what he does.  And I can tell you, that is 

11   this gentleman here.  I think the Governor could 

12   have made no other pick that could have been any 

13   better than Richard Ball as Commissioner of Ag & 

14   Markets.  

15                And I think a testament to him is 

16   all his family that's here today.  So I'm going 

17   to take a minute, since so many of them came to 

18   support him, to acknowledge them.  His wife, 

19   Shirley.  Shirley's parents, Robert and Jackie 

20   Markham.  Richard's sister, Kathy Dickinson.  

21   Richard's son, Ethan, and his wife, Mary.  

22   Richard's daughter Sarah and her husband, Jacob 

23   Hooper.  Richard's daughter Jolyn Borst.  

24   Richard's granddaughters Anna, Taylor, Olivia and 

25   Abby.  Richard's grandson Liam.  And Richard's 


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 1   good friends Peter and Donna Mauhs.  

 2                Now, I want to thank you all for 

 3   coming today and sharing this special day for 

 4   Richard.  And I just want to say to those that 

 5   are listening, that they have a wonderful 

 6   Ag Commissioner who is really going to work to 

 7   strengthen this number-one industry in New York 

 8   State.  

 9                And congratulations, Richard.  Look 

10   forward to working with you.

11                Thank you, Mr. President.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Thank 

13   you, Senator Ritchie.

14                Senator DeFrancisco, why do you 

15   rise?

16                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   I just was 

17   wondering, who's tending the farm?  

18                (Laughter.)

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

20   Seward.

21                SENATOR SEWARD:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.  

23                I asked the same thing of the family 

24   earlier today, and they said it's on autopilot 

25   today.


                                                               2166

 1                (Laughter.)

 2                SENATOR SEWARD:   Well, thank you, 

 3   Mr. President, and I just wanted to rise and say 

 4   this is a very proud day for Schoharie County, 

 5   because one of our own is being named 

 6   Commissioner of Agriculture and Markets.  And 

 7   it's also a very good day for agriculture in 

 8   New York State.  

 9                As has been mentioned by both 

10   Senator Rivera and Senator DeFrancisco, Richard 

11   Ball's roots in agriculture are very, very deep.  

12   Inspired by his grandparents, who were long-time 

13   dairy farmers, he has lived and breathed 

14   agriculture his entire life.  

15                And we're very fortunate in the 

16   Schoharie Valley to have Richard and his family 

17   operating the Schoharie Valley Farms.  It's a 

18   great place for vegetable crops, fruits, 

19   greenhouse crops.  And also, of course, their 

20   market is known as the Carrot Farm, and that's a 

21   great family outing.  My family and I come over, 

22   and we enjoy visiting from time to time.

23                You know, Richard Ball is a real 

24   leader when it comes to his involvement in many, 

25   many agriculture-related organizations, as well 


                                                               2167

 1   as in the community.  He has served as a member 

 2   of the Mohawk Valley Regional Economic 

 3   Development Council.  He's been past president of 

 4   the Schoharie County Chamber of Commerce.  And I 

 5   like the combination of his background both in 

 6   agriculture and in economic development/business- 

 7   related activities.  He has been part of both 

 8   communities.  

 9                And of course, as Senator Ritchie 

10   mentioned, following the devastating floods of 

11   2011, which was very devastating to the Schoharie 

12   Valley, Richard has been a real leader in our 

13   community in terms of our recovery efforts.

14                Richard's initiatives as acting 

15   commissioner have focused very much on connecting 

16   upstate agricultural products with the downstate 

17   market.  And I say that's very good for our 

18   upstate farmers and very good for our downstate 

19   residents, who have access to healthy, fresh 

20   foods produced right here in New York State.

21                So, Mr. President, when I think of 

22   Richard Ball, I think of an outstanding family 

23   man -- and what a beautiful family we have here 

24   today.  He's a class act.  He's thoughtful and an 

25   effective leader.  


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 1                And I just want to say the Governor 

 2   has done very, very well in selecting Richard 

 3   Ball to be our next commissioner of Agriculture 

 4   and Markets.  I congratulate the Governor on a 

 5   great choice.  

 6                And, Richard, we look forward to 

 7   continuing to work with you in your new capacity 

 8   as our commissioner.

 9                Thank you, Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

11   Young.

12                SENATOR YOUNG:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.

14                I rise in strong support of Richard 

15   Ball as the new Ag & Markets commissioner in 

16   New York State.  

17                And as former chair of the Senate 

18   Standing Committee on Agriculture, I can 

19   personally vouch for Richard's qualifications for 

20   this position.  Because I've had the great 

21   fortune of working with him over the years.  We 

22   now have the capable leadership of Senator 

23   Ritchie as chair of the Ag Committee, but I'm 

24   still a proud member.  And I just want to let you 

25   know how much I value the fact that we have 


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 1   worked together on so many issues.  

 2                And I also want to work with you as 

 3   we move forward, because you know so well how 

 4   important agriculture is to the economic health 

 5   and future of New York State.

 6                But as somebody who grew up on a 

 7   dairy farm, I know farmers very well.  Not only 

 8   have you been a very strong advocate for 

 9   agriculture, but you've actually lived 

10   agriculture as a farmer.  And I know that you 

11   will take that background that you have and help 

12   so many people across all of New York State help 

13   boost our economy and really help us have a 

14   brighter future.  

15                So I just want to say to you 

16   personally, heartfelt thanks for undertaking this 

17   big responsibility that you have ahead.  But I 

18   have the utmost confidence and faith in you.  So 

19   I wish you well, sincerely congratulate you and 

20   your entire family, and look forward to working 

21   together as we move forward.  

22                Thank you.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

24   Nozzolio.

25                SENATOR NOZZOLIO:   Thank you, 


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 1   Mr. President.  

 2                Mr. President, my congratulations to 

 3   Richard Ball for his nomination.  The quality of 

 4   life as a farmer, as a businessman, as a member 

 5   of Farm Bureau and the policies put forth by 

 6   Farm Bureau, his reputation for his endeavors 

 7   within those organizations and business preceded 

 8   him here.  

 9                And the comments of Senator Seward 

10   and Senator Young and Senator Ritchie certainly 

11   amplify the fact that the nominee has a great 

12   background in agriculture.

13                What I was extremely impressed with, 

14   though, during the deliberations of the Senate 

15   Finance Committee in our confirmation process, 

16   Richard Ball understood very clearly the fact 

17   that economic development and job development in 

18   the state, particularly regarding agriculture, 

19   should not be siloed from and insulated from the 

20   role that he will have as agriculture 

21   commissioner.

22                That it's an extremely important 

23   endeavor, commissioner of Ag & Markets.  But 

24   understanding that yes, you are the guardian of 

25   the number-one job developer in New York State, 


                                                               2171

 1   that food growth and processing has literally 

 2   tens of thousands of job for New Yorkers.  If you 

 3   add the beverage component to food, whether it's 

 4   growing a grape, whether it's developing a 

 5   vineyard, a winery, those issues are critically 

 6   important to job development in New York State.

 7                That we had a chance to discuss 

 8   briefly at the Senate Finance Committee the 

 9   importance of agricultural research, and 

10   especially applied agricultural research, in this 

11   job-development component.  I firmly believe that 

12   if START-UP, the Governor's program for job 

13   development, is going to work anywhere, it's 

14   going to work at the Experiment Station of 

15   Cornell University located in Geneva, New York.  

16                Coincidentally, the director of the 

17   Experiment Station at Geneva is here today, 

18   Director Tom Burr, sitting in the chamber with 

19   us, along with Dr. Susan Brown, who is going to 

20   be here next week as well, because she's 

21   designated as one of the Women of Distinction of 

22   this state by the State of New York Senate 

23   because of her great applied agricultural 

24   research and her development of two new apple 

25   varietals.  The SnapDragon and RubyFrost are 


                                                               2172

 1   actual new apples created by the research of 

 2   Dr. Brown.

 3                But the Experiment Station in itself 

 4   is a place where scientific research meets job 

 5   development in the agricultural sector.  And I 

 6   was very impressed with Mr. Ball's understanding, 

 7   Richard Ball's understanding of how important 

 8   this all is to bringing actual markets to 

 9   New York farmers by having better products, 

10   products are that are more competitive, products 

11   that grow better in New York and that in effect 

12   are competitive with products grown all across 

13   the world.  

14                And that will bring additional 

15   processing here to New York.  I'd like to think 

16   that New York is at the cusp of a renaissance of 

17   food processing.  Certainly in yogurt, in grapes 

18   and wine, in other commodities, we are coming 

19   back to an era where most of the food in the 

20   Northeast was processed in New York.  

21                I would love to see that day occur.  

22   I believe under Richard Ball's guidance as 

23   commissioner this can happen.  I look forward to 

24   his partnerships with our great agricultural 

25   research team in New York State, designated 


                                                               2173

 1   through our land grant college at Cornell 

 2   University.  And with that, I believe we are 

 3   going to be in a great period for New York 

 4   agriculture.

 5                The potential is there.  I know the 

 6   nominee is certainly up to the task.  I am 

 7   pleased to support this nomination, and I wish 

 8   Richard Ball great luck and work and fortune with 

 9   this important component of our number-one 

10   industry.

11                Thank you, Mr. President.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Tkaczyk.

14                SENATOR TKACZYK:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.

16                I rise to join my colleagues to 

17   congratulate Richard Ball.  I couldn't be 

18   happier.  I have the great fortune to live near 

19   the Schoharie Valley Farm, and I shop there 

20   often.  And I remember when Richard and his 

21   family bought the farm over 20 years ago.  And I 

22   have enjoyed watching him grow the farm and his 

23   family to grow, to grow their vision.

24                And when you go into the Schoharie 

25   Valley Farm, you are convinced you're a part of 


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 1   the family.  And I think that's something that 

 2   Richard and his family have done over the years, 

 3   is create community through their enterprise.  

 4   And they're such an important part of the 

 5   Schoharie Valley, as you've heard.

 6                I can't think of a better person to 

 7   take agriculture into the future here in New York 

 8   State, because we need visionary people.  Richard 

 9   Ball is one of those visionaries who sees 

10   opportunities between farmers and consumers and 

11   then makes them happen.  He was instrumental in 

12   helping to put together the Corbin Hill Farm 

13   project.  Their farm was one of the group of 

14   farmers who are part of this CSA that is bringing  

15   tractor-trailorload of food every week to the 

16   South Bronx and Harlem and feeding people who in 

17   some areas live in a food desert.  

18                And they come up to visit, and the 

19   farms that they visit, one of them is Schoharie 

20   Valley Form.  If you go to the Corbin Hill 

21   project website and click on a video, you will 

22   likely see the farmer they're visiting is Richard 

23   Ball.  You can see him out in the field.  

24                I'm so excited that the Governor 

25   picked the right person at the right time to head 


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 1   Ag & Markets, and I wholeheartedly support his 

 2   nomination.  

 3                I want to congratulate you, Richard, 

 4   and the entire family, and I wish you well.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   Savino.

 7                SENATOR SAVINO:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.

 9                I also rise to congratulate not just 

10   Governor Cuomo on this pick but also Richard Ball 

11   and his family.  

12                I was delighted when the Governor 

13   put his name forward as Commissioner of Ag & 

14   Markets, because I actually knew him.  I met him 

15   about a year ago; when he was in his work with 

16   the Farm Bureau, he reached out to me as the 

17   chair of the Senate Labor Committee because he 

18   had seen the work that I was doing with 

19   Senator Espaillat and others on the issue of 

20   farmworkers and whether or not we could achieve a 

21   Justice for Farmworkers bill in this state.  

22                He invited me to come and speak to 

23   come and speak to the Farm Bureau at their summer 

24   meeting.  Turned out I was the first Labor chair 

25   ever to address the New York State Farm Bureau, 


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 1   and I think it was as much as a risk for me as it 

 2   was for him.  It was quite a shock for the 

 3   members of the Farm Bureau to realize that a 

 4   New York City downstate Democrat with strong 

 5   labor credentials did not have horns on her head.  

 6                But it began the first of a series 

 7   of meetings and discussions that I've had with 

 8   members of the Farm Bureau about what we can do 

 9   to address the issues of farmworkers in this 

10   state.  And it allowed me to see both sides of 

11   this issue from the farmers themselves -- many of 

12   whom, like Richard Ball, were farmworkers also at 

13   one point in their life -- and how do we work 

14   together to find solutions to the challenges that 

15   they face.  

16                He opened my eyes to many of the 

17   challenges that farmers and family farmers have, 

18   and then followed up on that by arranging a 

19   visit, along with the Farm Bureau, for me in 

20   November where I got to tour Schoharie Valley 

21   Farm and I saw Corbin Hill Road at work with 

22   them.  I then got to go to a couple of dairy 

23   farms.  I found out a lot about dairy cows.  

24   Namely, they have very long tongues and if you 

25   get close enough to them, they will lick you.


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 1                (Laughter.)

 2                SENATOR SAVINO:   But it was a real 

 3   eye-opening experience for me, and it created a 

 4   dialogue that I know we're going to continue, 

 5   working with Senator Espaillat, where I think we 

 6   can finally begin to find some common ground.  

 7   And if there's anyone who can help make that 

 8   happen, it's going to be Richard Ball as the new 

 9   commissioner of Ag & Markets.  

10                I look forward to a long, fruitful 

11   relationship with you.  Congratulations to you 

12   and your family.  

13                And by the way, if you've never 

14   visited the Schoharie Valley Farm, I suggest you 

15   do so.  Not only do they have great produce and 

16   they have great products, they have a wonderful 

17   restaurant there and his daughters are some of 

18   the best cooks I have ever encountered.  

19                Congratulations to you and to your 

20   family.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

22   Libous.

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. Ball, I don't 

24   know you.  But I live in Binghamton, and I have 

25   to travel on Route 88.  And I've stopped at the 


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 1   Carrot Barn many times, and the carrot oatmeal 

 2   cookies are out of this world.  

 3                (Laughter.)

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   And as long as you 

 5   continue to make those, you've got my support.  

 6   Godspeed.

 7                (Laughter.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 9   Little.

10                SENATOR LITTLE:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.

12                I join my colleagues in wishing you 

13   well and actually supporting this confirmation of 

14   you as commissioner of agriculture.  And I thank 

15   the Governor for appointing you to this position.  

16                If there were a perfect resume for a 

17   commissioner of agriculture, I believe you have 

18   it.  You have all the experience at every facet 

19   of farming and agriculture there is.  And even 

20   more importantly, you work very hard on the 

21   selling of the product and the marketing of 

22   product and promotion of agriculture in New York 

23   State.  

24                So as one who represents six 

25   counties, all of whom are involved in farming -- 


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 1   some more than others, but it's a big industry in 

 2   my district, big in the economy.  And I look 

 3   forward to working with you.  Congratulations.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 5   Espaillat.

 6                SENATOR ESPAILLAT:   Thank you, 

 7   Mr. President.

 8                I'm happy to stand up in support of 

 9   this nomination.  

10                Many of you know how I vote on 

11   agricultural bills and why.  But having sat in 

12   the Finance Committee meeting today, I saw 

13   someone that I think is open to discussion and 

14   working to solve the issue of farmworkers.  You 

15   know, he clearly stated that he believes they 

16   should get a day off, and I think it's open to 

17   ideas from many sides of the aisles.  And I look 

18   forward to working with him and Senator Savino as 

19   well as others that are interested not only in 

20   the agricultural business in farms, but also in 

21   what happens there to farmworkers.  

22                And so I look forward to having a 

23   positive and constructive working relationship 

24   with him.  I congratulate him and his family.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 


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 1   Ranzenhofer.

 2                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.  

 4                I'd like to say I think it's a real 

 5   tribute to Mr. Ball as to the number of people 

 6   who have already stood up and complimented you 

 7   and commended you for your experience and what a 

 8   great choice the Governor has made in selecting 

 9   you.  That doesn't happen with everybody that's 

10   selected to serve as a commissioner.

11                One of the things that I had 

12   mentioned earlier, I reminded Senator 

13   DeFrancisco, is I referred to you today in the 

14   Finance Committee as a farmer's farmer.  And I 

15   think that's a real tribute.  

16                Now, when your nomination was placed 

17   in front of this body, I treat it as a job 

18   application by you asking for our support, so I 

19   did a little bit of homework.  And the first 

20   thing is to check references.  And in checking 

21   with the farmers in my district -- and I 

22   represent the 61st District, which goes from 

23   Buffalo to Rochester and includes Genesee 

24   County -- one of the comments that I heard over 

25   and over is that he is a man that knows farming 


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 1   and has gotten his hands dirty.  

 2                In other words, you've been there.  

 3   You haven't read about it, you haven't taught it, 

 4   you've actually done it.  You've farmed.  And, 

 5   you know, I think that's a great tribute to the 

 6   experience that you bring to this job.

 7                One of the things that so impressed 

 8   me today in looking through your resume and your 

 9   credentials is the initiative that you've taken 

10   with your own farm in bringing produce to where 

11   it's needed in New York City, and your 

12   willingness to expand that program to other urban 

13   areas throughout the state, whether it be 

14   Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse.  I think that's a 

15   great model for the rest of the state, and I look 

16   forward to working with you to try to expand that 

17   program.

18                The other thing that I was very 

19   impressed with this morning, and I think that 

20   Senator Nozzolio alluded to this a little bit 

21   earlier, is the agribusiness.  Okay, not just 

22   dairy farming and not just cash crop, but the 

23   yogurt production that's going on across the 

24   state.  

25                And your comment that even though 


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 1   this state has experienced exponential growth 

 2   over the last, say, 10 to 13 years to where we 

 3   are now the number-one yogurt producer, your 

 4   comment today that we have just seen the 

 5   beginning, we haven't seen anything yet.  We are 

 6   on the cusp of really revolutionizing this 

 7   industry and other industries similar.  

 8                And I think it's that type of 

 9   leadership, that type of foresight, that type of 

10   approach, by saying not that the best is behind 

11   us with the great work and the great deeds that 

12   we've already accomplished, but that we can 

13   really go so much further.  

14                So I'm very encouraged.  I think 

15   that you are the right person for the job.  And 

16   again, back to my original comments, I think, 

17   from the comments that I've heard from both sides 

18   of the aisle and the number of people that have 

19   stood up and spoken so passionately and fervently 

20   and so strongly in support of your nomination, 

21   will only lead you to great success in leading 

22   the agricultural community in the years ahead.  

23                So I congratulate you and look 

24   forward to working with you in the years ahead, 

25   sir.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Krueger.

 3                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Congratulations.  

 4   I would like to say we rarely get a rock star 

 5   here in the Senate chambers, so I'm delighted 

 6   that we have found one to be the commissioner of 

 7   Agriculture and Markets.  

 8                And as has been spoken by many of my 

 9   colleagues, this is an all-state issue, whether 

10   it's upstate agricultural areas or whether it's 

11   the great City of New York, who I often describe 

12   as 8½ million mouths happy to eat whatever 

13   New York State can produce and get down to us.

14                So I wish you the best in your 

15   efforts to make sure that the great State of 

16   New York maximizes its possibilities for 

17   agriculture and markets for all of us.  

18   Congratulations.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

20   Maziarz.

21                SENATOR MAZIARZ:   Thank you very 

22   much, Mr. President.

23                I have to agree with all my 

24   colleagues.  Commissioner, I don't think I've 

25   seen this level of support here -- from the City, 


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 1   from upstate, from everywhere -- in a long time.  

 2                I agree with what Senator 

 3   Ranzenhofer said.  I too do the same thing.  you 

 4   know, I'd never met you before, I hadn't really 

 5   known much about you.  And I contacted the 

 6   Farm Bureau presidents in Monroe, Orleans, and 

 7   Niagara County, where the best fruits and 

 8   vegetables and dairy products in the entire State 

 9   of New York -- most particularly, better than 

10   Syracuse -- are grown here in this state.  And 

11   all of them had very positive things to say about 

12   you, Richard.  

13                And we all know, those of us who 

14   represent agricultural districts know that there 

15   are a lot of issues today with farming, with 

16   labor and the cost and energy and so forth.  And 

17   issues like the county fairs, that fall under the 

18   jurisdiction of the Ag & Markets Department, are 

19   all issues that you certainly are well prepared 

20   to address.  

21                So I join with my colleagues here, 

22   again, from across the state.  I am most 

23   impressed with this appointment.  I think it was 

24   an excellent choice by the Governor.  

25                So congratulations to you.  


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 1                Thank you.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 3   Montgomery.

 4                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.  

 6                I rise to join my colleagues in 

 7   complimenting the Governor on this excellent 

 8   appointment.  And just to make sure we all 

 9   understand that the agricultural industry in our 

10   state is really extremely important.  

11                And I'm just happy to see that we 

12   all seem to have come to an agreement with I 

13   think one of the things that Senator Smith said 

14   some years back, that we have one New York.  And 

15   the oneness means that we have a new high respect 

16   for upstate and the farming industry that that 

17   represents.  And the same to the same extent that 

18   upstate has for downstate and the City and what 

19   we represent.  And that we should be working 

20   together to maximize that.

21                And I want to just acknowledge that 

22   I had some young people from Verona, New York, in 

23   my district last week, who represented and they 

24   were ambassadors for their area and for the whole 

25   issue of farming, and they did a demonstration 


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 1   for young people in my district.  It was a very, 

 2   very wonderful opportunity for both of those 

 3   young people, both the upstate children and the 

 4   downstate children, to come together.  And I said 

 5   to them, "This is America."  

 6                And so that's what it represents to 

 7   me.  I hope we can do more of that.  So, 

 8   Commissioner Ball, I look forward to working with 

 9   you to make that happen.  

10                And again, I think that this is a -- 

11   we have advanced ourselves, because at one point 

12   we were upstate and downstate.  But now I think 

13   what I'm hearing today is a reflection of the 

14   "one state" principle.  And I'm very happy that 

15   I've been able to stay long enough to see it and 

16   experience it.  

17                Congratulations, Commissioner Ball.  

18                Thank you, Mr. President.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

20   Díaz.

21                SENATOR DIAZ:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.

23                I just wanted to say that I join 

24   those in this chamber that are happy for this 

25   nomination.  But I am happy for the nomination, 


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 1   but in a different -- for a different reason.  

 2                Mr. President, ladies and gentlemen, 

 3   we have a state like New York where we all brag 

 4   about how we fight for people's equality.  We 

 5   have a state where we brag about that we are 

 6   number one protecting human rights.  We are in a 

 7   state where our leaders fight hard to push bills 

 8   of all kinds.

 9                However, Mr. President and ladies 

10   and gentlemen, we in this state that brag so much 

11   about protecting people's rights and human rights 

12   and giving equality to people, we have a section 

13   or segment of this state called farmworkers, 

14   where practically they have been exploited.  They 

15   are being treated like slaves.  We have a state 

16   that brags about human rights, and we have 

17   laborers, farmworkers that cannot even have a day 

18   off, that don't have holidays, that don't have 

19   sick days, don't have anything.  Not even health 

20   benefits.

21                And in this state nowadays, in this 

22   time of history, we're still having this kind of 

23   oppressed people in this state.

24                Now, today I asked Mr. Ball, the 

25   nominee, about his personal position on these 


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 1   issues about if farmworkers should get equality.  

 2   And now we're talking equality, we talk about 

 3   equality.  And Mr. Ball said he believed -- 

 4   ladies and gentlemen, he answered my question 

 5   saying he believed that everybody, everyone 

 6   should be equal, that everyone should get all the 

 7   benefits, and that farmworkers should be treated 

 8   like anybody else, equal.  And to give them all 

 9   the benefits.

10                So that's why I'm happy.  That's why 

11   I'm happy, to hear those things.  I hope that 

12   now, after Mr. Ball gets approved by the Senate 

13   and he takes possession of the Agriculture 

14   Department, that he goes and do exactly as he 

15   believes, that farmworkers should be treated with 

16   decency, with respect, and given all benefits.

17                So I'm happy to support this 

18   nomination, happy to join all of you that are so 

19   happy with the nomination, happy for Mr. Ball and 

20   happy for his family, and happy for the 

21   farmworkers.  Because maybe finally, finally, we 

22   will get a person, a human being, a decent person 

23   that cares about other people.

24                And also I'm happy because he knows 

25   the Bronx.  He's been there.  He works there.  


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 1   He's done things there.

 2                So, Mr. President, I approve and I 

 3   congratulate Mr. Ball.  Thank you.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 5   Perkins.

 6                SENATOR PERKINS:   Thank you very 

 7   much.  I rise to join my colleagues in supporting 

 8   this nomination.  

 9                I'm especially supporting it because 

10   of the concerns that I have, as were expressed by 

11   Senator Díaz and Senator Adriano Espaillat, about 

12   the workers, the farmworkers.  He has 

13   unequivocally represented that he would be moving 

14   forward in making sure that the kind of decency 

15   and rights that they're entitled to, that he 

16   would be responsible for making sure happens.  

17   And that's a very, very important concern.

18                Clearly, the fact that his work has 

19   impacted my district, where he has, through his 

20   work, worked with our faith-based community to 

21   connect Harlem with the workers and the farmers 

22   in the area that he comes from, with vegetables 

23   and other kinds of food distribution.  And I know 

24   that they've been very successful.  What you 

25   might literally call soul food was a part of his 


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 1   legacy.  

 2                And we think that he'll do a great 

 3   job, especially, of course, if he is able to move 

 4   the farmworkers agenda forward, as he indicated 

 5   he would to us in the hearing that we had this 

 6   afternoon.  

 7                So I wanted to vote aye on this.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 9   Gipson.

10                SENATOR GIPSON:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.  

12                I'd just like to echo everything 

13   that my colleagues have said about our nominee 

14   today.  Mr. Ball I believe really does understand 

15   that New York State grows some of the finest farm 

16   products in the country, if not the world.  

17                And I am, as many have mentioned 

18   today, particularly excited about the fact that 

19   he has committed himself to trying to find a 

20   solution that we have all struggled with, which 

21   is to find a way to get our farm products in the 

22   upstate area down to New York City, which is, as 

23   he continues to point out, one of the largest 

24   appetites in the country.  

25                I believe he's going to be able to 


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 1   help us find that solution, and I look forward to 

 2   working with him.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 4   question is on the nomination of Richard Ball as 

 5   Commissioner of Agriculture and Markets for the 

 6   State of New York.  All in favor signify by 

 7   saying aye.

 8                (Response of "Aye.")

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

10                (No response.)

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Richard 

12   Ball is hereby confirmed as Commissioner of the 

13   New York State Department of Agriculture and 

14   Markets.

15                (Extended applause.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   We 

17   welcome the members of the Ball family who are 

18   present today.  

19                Commissioner, we congratulate you on 

20   your confirmation, we thank you for your service, 

21   and we extend our best wishes for success.

22                Senator DeFrancisco.  

23                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   I'd like to 

24   move the nomination of Barry F. Schwartz, as 

25   trustee of the City University of New York.  


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 1                I had mentioned to Mr. Schwartz that 

 2   the discussion that we had in the Finance 

 3   Committee before him was lengthy, and therefore 

 4   we didn't spend -- do you have to read the 

 5   nomination first?  Why don't you do that?  

 6                (Laughter.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 8   Secretary will read the nomination.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   As trustee of the 

10   City University of New York, Barry F. Schwartz, 

11   of New York City.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   DeFrancisco on the nomination.

14                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Ditto.

15                (Laughter.)

16                CHAIRMAN DeFRANCISCO:   No, I move 

17   the nomination of Barry F. Schwartz as a member 

18   of the Board of Trustees of CUNY.  

19                And we didn't get much time to talk 

20   to him.  And I think it's important to mention 

21   what a great nomination this is as well, for CUNY 

22   and for the State of New York.  

23                His background is quite frankly 

24   unbelievable.  He's been successful in business, 

25   and most everyone has his resume.  I won't go 


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 1   into the business background.  But he's been 

 2   very, very successful, and as a result has 

 3   contributed greatly in his community.  

 4                But from the educational standpoint, 

 5   this is kind of interesting.  He graduated from 

 6   Kenyon College in 1970.  By 2000, he was a member 

 7   of the Board of Trustees of Kenyon College, where 

 8   he remains to the present day.

 9                I'm from Syracuse University, and we 

10   sometimes play Georgetown.  Despite that rivalry, 

11   Georgetown is a wonderful university.  And he 

12   graduated with his J.D. degree in 1974.  By 2005, 

13   continuing to the present date, he's a member of 

14   the Georgetown University Law Center Board of 

15   Visitors.  

16                So he's maintained his contacts with 

17   his institutions of higher education and 

18   participates in their growth, and to make certain 

19   that they remain the outstanding institutions 

20   that they were before he got there.  So he's an 

21   individual well-versed in issues concerning 

22   higher education, and he's an individual who has 

23   paid back for the wonderful opportunities he's 

24   had and for the success he'd gotten.

25                So Governor Cuomo, this was a great 


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 1   nomination.  And I thank Mr. Schwartz for being 

 2   willing to contribute to the higher education in 

 3   the State of New York.

 4                So I move the nomination.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   LaValle.

 7                SENATOR LaVALLE:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.

 9                Senator DeFrancisco laid out the 

10   educational background and business background of 

11   Mr. Schwartz.

12                By the way, he shows he has 

13   endurance, because he was before the Higher 

14   Education Committee this morning at 10 o'clock, 

15   answered questions and spoke before the 

16   committee, and was unanimously forwarded to the 

17   Finance Committee.

18                As I had said this morning, one of 

19   the most important things is that he sits on and 

20   has sat on several higher education boards.  And 

21   that's critically important, because at CUNY in 

22   the last number of years they have, under the 

23   chairmanship of Benno Schmidt and Chancellor Matt 

24   Goldstein, produced an incredible record in 

25   bringing the City University to a new plateau, a 


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 1   new place.

 2                And he understands how to sit on a 

 3   board, make decisions on a higher education 

 4   board, and will continue to keep that movement 

 5   upward of a very good system, our City 

 6   University.

 7                So, Mr. Schwartz, I wish you good 

 8   luck, hope we will continue to have a dialogue.  

 9   And the board you sit on, the City University, is 

10   very critically important to the people of the 

11   State of New York and the City of New York.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Stavisky.

14                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.

16                And I too, as the ranking member on 

17   the committee, met with Mr. Schwartz earlier 

18   today, and we discussed the rich tradition that 

19   is the City University of New York, back to its 

20   founding in 1847 as City College, where the 

21   mission at that time was to educate -- at that 

22   time it was only the sons, but to educate the 

23   sons and now daughters of immigrants.  

24                And that mission truly has not 

25   changed.  And Mr. Schwartz was aware of the 


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 1   importance of maintaining the City University as 

 2   a viable institution going back to that period of 

 3   its founding, and the fact that there are three 

 4   aspects:  It's got to remain affordable and 

 5   accessible and of high quality.  

 6                And those were the three issues that 

 7   many of us have been talking about, but 

 8   Mr. Schwartz brought those three issues up 

 9   himself.

10                He does bring an interesting 

11   background with his prior service on those other 

12   higher educational institutions' boards.  

13                And I am delighted that the Governor 

14   has submitted his name.  I think we're going to 

15   have an excellent trustee.  And we all look 

16   forward to working with him in the days ahead, 

17   because the City University represents an 

18   opportunity for young people, particularly in 

19   districts where English may not be their native 

20   language, in the districts of immigrants.  And 

21   that is important.  

22                And I had urged him and he agreed to 

23   visit some of the colleges within CUNY.  I know 

24   the CUNY trustees hold meetings on various 

25   college campuses, but we have such great examples 


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 1   of CUNY institutions throughout the city.  

 2                And we congratulate Mr. Schwartz on 

 3   his nomination, and we all look forward to 

 4   working with him in the days ahead.

 5                Thank you, Mr. President.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 7   Hoylman.

 8                SENATOR HOYLMAN:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                I rise in support of the nomination 

11   of Barry Schwartz and commend the Governor on his 

12   excellent selection.

13                You know, CUNY is an incredibly 

14   important institution, as was commented:  270,000 

15   college degree students, 247,000 adult continuing 

16   and professional students, the city/state 

17   partnerships that CUNY has established with our 

18   public schools, economic development initiatives, 

19   immigration aid, financial advice.  And I'm 

20   confident that Barry Schwartz is a trustee who 

21   can manage all of that.

22                You know, I first met Barry, he gave 

23   me one of my first satisfying constituent 

24   interactions.  Barry lives in Greenwich Village.  

25   I didn't know who he was.  He called me because 


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 1   his house was vibrating.  And we took the call, 

 2   why would a house be vibrating in Greenwich 

 3   Village?  Staff thought about it.  

 4                We figured it out.  There was a 

 5   loose rail tie underneath Barry's house that was 

 6   causing the vibration.  And so we called the MTA, 

 7   they tightened it what whatever they tighten rail 

 8   ties with, and it was fixed.  So thank you for 

 9   that, Barry.

10                (Laughter.)

11                SENATOR HOYLMAN:   And Barry's 

12   professional accomplishments have been mentioned.  

13                I will say, though, that I think his 

14   asset will come because of his interest in our 

15   community in Greenwich Village and the city as 

16   well.  

17                And you look at the boards that 

18   Barry sits on, whether it's the New York City 

19   Center; Human Rights First, which is an 

20   organization that protects refugees and combats 

21   torture and defends persecuted minorities 

22   throughout the country and the world.  And you 

23   look at Barry's background at MacAndrews & 

24   Forbes, the companies that are such a diverse 

25   holding company -- so Barry has to, I'm sure, 


                                                               2199

 1   understand a lot about a lot of different 

 2   companies.  Revlon, Scientific Games Corporation, 

 3   Harland Clarke Holdings Corporation.  

 4                And last but not least, Barry is on 

 5   the board of Jazz at Lincoln Center, which is 

 6   also in my district.  And I was speaking to 

 7   Senator Latimer about his support for Jazz at 

 8   Lincoln Center, and Senator Latimer told me that 

 9   he's voting for him today on the hope that he'll 

10   be able to attend his swearing-in ceremony along 

11   with Wynton Marsalis and his jazz combo.  I trust 

12   they will entertain us all, Barry.  

13                But thank you so much for your 

14   service.  Thank you for volunteering for this 

15   mission.  And thank you to Governor Cuomo for 

16   putting Barry Schwartz's name forward.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

18   question is on the nomination of Barry F. 

19   Schwartz as a member of the Board of Trustees of 

20   CUNY.  All in favor signify by saying aye.

21                (Response of "Aye.")

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Opposed?  

23                (No response.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Barry F. 

25   Schwartz is hereby confirmed as a member of the 


                                                               2200

 1   Board of Trustees of the City University of 

 2   New York.  

 3                Congratulations, Mr. Schwartz, and 

 4   good luck.

 5                (Standing ovation.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 7   Libous.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

 9   we're going to get started in a second.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

11   Libous.

12                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

13   think we have a noncontroversial calendar in 

14   front of us.  Could we --

15                (Laughter.)

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Could we -- well, 

17   wishful thinking is always important, is it not?  

18                Could we proceed with the reading of 

19   the noncontroversial calendar.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Can I 

21   have some order in the chamber, please.

22                The Secretary will read the 

23   noncontroversial calendar.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   117, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 4577, an 


                                                               2201

 1   act to amend Chapter 399 of the Laws of 2008.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

 3   a home-rule message at the desk.

 4                The Secretary will read.

 5                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay the 

 7   bill aside.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   123, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 6408B, an 

10   act to authorize.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

12   a home-rule message at the desk.

13                The Secretary will read.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

15   act shall take effect immediately.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay the 

21   bill aside.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   191, by Senator Farley, Senate Print 6282, an act 

24   to amend the Education Law.

25                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.


                                                               2202

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay the 

 2   bill aside.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   193, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 5077, an 

 5   act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules.

 6                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay the 

 8   bill aside.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   203, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 3817, an act 

11   to amend the Public Health Law.

12                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay the 

14   bill aside.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   210, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 2237D, an 

17   act to amend the Penal Law.

18                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay the 

20   bill aside.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   257, by Senator Young, Senate Print 4356, an act 

23   to amend the Soil and Water Conservation 

24   Districts Law.

25                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.


                                                               2203

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay the 

 2   bill aside.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   278, by Senator Avella, Senate Print 6599D, an 

 5   act to amend the Education Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay the 

10   bill aside.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   313, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 6117A, an 

13   act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

14                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay the 

16   bill aside.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   321, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 6292, an 

19   act to amend the Education Law.

20                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

22   aside.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   327, by Senator Libous, Senate Print 976, an act 

25   to amend the Civil Service Law.


                                                               2204

 1                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 3   aside.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   331, by Senator Avella, Senate Print 731, an act 

 6   to amend the Religious Corporations Law.

 7                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 9   aside.

10                Can I have some order in the house, 

11   please.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   338, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 2178A, an 

14   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

15                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

17   aside.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   345, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 2169, an act 

20   to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

21                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

23   is laid aside.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   347, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 1506, an 


                                                               2205

 1   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 2                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 4   is laid aside.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   359, by Senator Skelos, Senate Print 3033, an act 

 7   to amend the Penal Law.

 8                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

10   is laid aside.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   360, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 3074, an act 

13   to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

14                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

16   is laid aside.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   363, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 4488, an 

19   act to amend the Penal Law.

20                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

22   is laid aside.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   400, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 1530, an 

25   act to amend the Economic Development Law.


                                                               2206

 1                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 3   is laid aside.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   405, by Senator Addabbo, Senate Print 1919, an 

 6   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Lay it aside.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 9   aside.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   407, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 2503, an act 

12   to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

13                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

15   is laid aside.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   408, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 3994, an act 

18   to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

19                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

21   is laid aside.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   413, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 1191, an 

24   act to amend the Executive Law.

25                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.


                                                               2207

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 2   is laid aside.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   415, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 1957, an act 

 5   to amend the Executive Law.

 6                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

 8   aside.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   429, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 3631A, 

11   an act to amend the Tax Law.

12                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay the 

14   bill aside.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   433, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 6695, 

17   an act to amend the State Law.

18                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

20   is laid aside.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   461, by Senator Marcellino, Senate Print 1507A, 

23   an act to amend the Penal Law.

24                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 


                                                               2208

 1   is laid aside.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   465, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 2475, an act 

 4   to amend the Penal Law.

 5                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 7   is laid aside.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   468, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 3547, an act 

10   to amend the Penal Law.

11                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

13   is laid aside.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   470, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print --

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Oh, lay it aside.

17                (Laughter.)

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Díaz, why do you rise?

20                SENATOR DIAZ:   Lay aside.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Lay it 

22   aside.

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT  GRIFFO:   Senator 

25   Libous, that completes the noncontroversial 


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 1   reading of the calendar.

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   It appears, 

 3   Mr. President, that we have a controversial 

 4   calendar in front of us.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   We do 

 6   indeed.

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   And what I would 

 8   like to do is, on this controversial calendar, 

 9   take up Calendar Number 278, please, at this 

10   time.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

12   Secretary will ring the bell.

13                The Secretary will read.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   278, by Senator Avella, Senate Print 6599D, an 

16   act to amend the Education Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Explanation, 

20   please.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   An 

22   explanation has been requested by Senator 

23   Gianaris, Senator Avella.

24                SENATOR AVELLA:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.


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 1                The legislation that's before the 

 2   chamber this afternoon -- or this evening, at 

 3   this point -- would amend the Education Law to 

 4   require that the Sea of Japan also be referenced 

 5   as the East Sea in textbooks used in New York.  

 6                This legislation would ensure that 

 7   the children of New York not only receive quality 

 8   education, but also accurate education, by 

 9   facilitating and understanding that the body of 

10   water that separates the Korean Peninsula and 

11   Japan is also known as the East Sea.  

12                The sea area between the Korean 

13   Peninsula and Japan has been referred to as the 

14   East Sea for well over 2,000 years.  There are 

15   dozens of worlds maps predating the 19th century 

16   that refer to this body of water as the East Sea.  

17   The name Sea of Japan, however, came into wider 

18   use in the 20th century, especially during the 

19   Japanese occupation of Korea.  

20                The international standard supports 

21   a concurrent use of "East Sea" and "Sea of Japan" 

22   when referring to the body of water between Korea 

23   and Japan.  The International Hydrographic 

24   Organization's Technical Resolution A.4.2.6, 

25   which was adopted on March 13, 1974, provides 


                                                               2211

 1   when countries sharing a given geographic feature 

 2   do not agree on a common name, the names used by 

 3   each of the countries should be used 

 4   concurrently.  

 5                This standard is confirmed by the 

 6   United Nations Resolution on Geographical Names 

 7   111/20, which further states that "accepting only 

 8   one or some of such names while excluding the 

 9   rest would be inconsistent in principle as well 

10   as inexpedient in practice."

11                And I think, you know, we spend a 

12   lot of time, my fellow colleagues, talking about 

13   education.  And I think it's very important that 

14   the students throughout our educational system in 

15   New York State learn what the real name is of 

16   this body of water, and the bill would make dual 

17   reference to "Sea of Japan" and "East Sea."

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Stavisky.

20                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.

22                First, let me welcome our friends 

23   from I guess mostly Queens back to Albany for 

24   this bill.  And I congratulate you on your 

25   lobbying effort to give recognition to the fact 


                                                               2212

 1   that we can have dual recognition of two names 

 2   for the same location.

 3                I consider that to be important 

 4   because, as you know, I'm a former high school 

 5   social studies teacher, and accuracy is extremely 

 6   important, particularly when we teach young 

 7   people geographic terms.

 8                There is a precedent for this.  We 

 9   have often naming of streets or bridges with two 

10   names -- not that people call it the Ed Koch 

11   Bridge, necessarily, but we recognize that it's 

12   the Queensboro Bridge or the 59th Street Bridge.  

13   So there is the precedent for conaming.

14                And secondly, this gives recognition 

15   to the fact that there was a period in Korean 

16   history, from the beginning of the 20th century 

17   till the end of the Second World War where --

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Stavisky, are you just speaking on the bill, 

20   then? 

21                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Yes, on the 

22   bill, I'm sorry.  On the bill. 

23                 -- that there is a recognition that 

24   this was a difficult period in the time of the 

25   occupation of the Republic of South Korea.  


                                                               2213

 1                And again, I thank you for your 

 2   efforts and urge my colleagues to support this 

 3   bill.  

 4                Thank you.  

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   Rivera.

 7                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you so much, 

 8   Mr. President.  On the bill.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

10   Rivera on the bill.

11                SENATOR RIVERA:   I also welcome our 

12   friends from Queens.  I am from the Bronx, I do 

13   not have many folks that are Korean that live up 

14   there, but I certainly welcome you to the floor 

15   of the Senate.  

16                And I wanted to take a moment to 

17   thank Senator Stavisky, since it was, I remember, 

18   just a few years ago when I came into the 

19   Senate -- she recognizes that she has a very 

20   diverse district in Queens, and so she's taken to 

21   teaching me a little bit about it.  And certainly 

22   as it relates to this issue, she was the first 

23   one that educated me.  

24                If I remember correctly, there was 

25   actually a bill that she had introduced before 


                                                               2214

 1   that was cosponsored by Assemblymember Kim in the 

 2   Assembly.  I was looking forward to being 

 3   supportive of that piece of legislation.  It's 

 4   unfortunate that's not the one that we are 

 5   considering, as it does not have a same-as 

 6   sponsor in the Assembly, which is quite 

 7   unfortunate.  

 8                Because I do think that, just as my 

 9   colleagues have stated, it is important for the 

10   sake of accuracy to make sure that we name things 

11   what they are.  And as the historical realities 

12   have been explained to us, it is certainly 

13   important that we recognize that in our efforts 

14   to learn more about other parts of the world, as 

15   we learn more about the communities that make up 

16   our diverse state, that we take care to consider 

17   the historical realities of those communities and 

18   what has impacted those communities throughout 

19   their history -- what has led them to the U.S., 

20   what has led them to the City of New York, what 

21   has led them to Queens and how they have thrived 

22   there.  

23                So certainly on this particular 

24   issue I will be voting in the affirmative, again, 

25   pointing out that it is a sad, unfortunate 


                                                               2215

 1   reality that we do not have a same-as Assembly 

 2   sponsor.  Which means that this bill is unlikely 

 3   to become law this year.  Which is, again, 

 4   unfortunate.

 5                But certainly I thank Senator 

 6   Stavisky for educating me on this issue before, 

 7   and as well as for her introduction of this 

 8   bill -- I'm sorry, introduction of a bill that 

 9   did this prior.  We're not looking at that bill, 

10   we're looking at this one, so I will be 

11   supportive of this bill.  

12                Thank you so much, Mr. President.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

14   Serrano.

15                SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.  

17                I rise today to speak on this bill 

18   and to thank all of the guests who are here today 

19   for being here and for supporting the work that 

20   we do here in the State Legislature.

21                As many of you know, my interest, 

22   very deep interest is in the arts and culture.  

23   We live in a multicultural society, a 

24   multicultural city and state which I represent.

25                So that's why a bill of this nature 


                                                               2216

 1   is of great interest to me, and I'm very happy to 

 2   see that we as a body are taking an interest in 

 3   issues that are outside of our realm, to the 

 4   extent that we understand that we live in a 

 5   global society and that the education that we 

 6   have here in New York is about the world around 

 7   us.  

 8                And we need to better understand and 

 9   have a better appreciation for the historical 

10   context of regions outside of our own.  And I 

11   think that that's important for the youngsters in 

12   our community to have a well-rounded, a more 

13   global perspective of the world.  I believe that 

14   the arts and culture and cultural education of 

15   this nature breaks down barriers, breaks down 

16   prejudice, and it fosters the kind of 

17   relationships that we feel are extremely 

18   important.  

19                So I want to thank Senator Stavisky, 

20   Senator Avella, and anyone else who supports this 

21   notion, because I believe that it is critically 

22   important.  

23                Thank you.  I will be voting yes.  

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

25   Krueger.  


                                                               2217

 1                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

 2                I also rise to welcome our guests 

 3   here from various boroughs.  I represent a part 

 4   of Manhattan that until recently included 

 5   Koreatown.  And I too come from a city that is 

 6   the United Nations of the world.  I actually have 

 7   the U.N. in my district.  But we all know when 

 8   we're from New York City that it's the United 

 9   Nations.  

10                And it's important not only to be 

11   respectful of all of the world, but to ensure 

12   that our history books are dynamic and kept 

13   up-to-date.  

14                So Senator Stavisky also first 

15   educated me to this issue and the importance of 

16   New York State to get it right by making sure 

17   that the textbooks that we use are accurate and 

18   reflect current understanding of the world.  And 

19   so I want to thank her.  

20                And I am very pleased that this 

21   Senate is passing this bill today, and hopefully 

22   soon we will see this become the law of New York 

23   State.  

24                Thank you.  

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 


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 1   Díaz.

 2                SENATOR DIAZ:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.

 4                Ladies and gentlemen, 

 5   Korean-Americans, welcome to our chamber.  Glad 

 6   to see you here and those over there.

 7                As a Puerto Rican, as a black Puerto 

 8   Rican that grew up in Puerto Rico, when I became 

 9   Senator, I made my business to be sure that I 

10   recognize every single group.  And you, ladies 

11   and gentlemen, are witness that in this chamber I 

12   have brought to this chamber the Bangladesh 

13   community, the Garifunas, the Dominicans.  I 

14   honor the Puerto Ricans, the Afro-Americans.  I 

15   do my Abrazos and the Taiwanese, people from 

16   Taiwan.  So I've tried to honor all those 

17   communities.

18                Today, Senator Avella, this bill 

19   that you have introduced made me happy.  It made 

20   me happy because this bill recognize the effort 

21   and honoring the Korean-American people, 

22   community.  I join you, Senator Avella, 

23   supporting this bill.  And I thank you for this 

24   bill.  

25                And I also honor the Korean-American 


                                                               2219

 1   community here today.  I love, I love when I see 

 2   different communities come to the chamber.  I 

 3   love that.  And I am glad to see you over here 

 4   today.  And again, I'm proud that Senator Avella 

 5   has submitted this bill and that you are here 

 6   today, and I'm honored to support this bill.

 7                Thank you, Mr. President.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 9   Hoylman.

10                SENATOR HOYLMAN:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.  

12                I rise to -- I want to thank Senator 

13   Stavisky for raising this issue in our conference 

14   and leading this effort.

15                I note that this bill does reflect 

16   reality.  If you Google on Google Earth "Sea of 

17   Japan," you will see it referred to both as "Sea 

18   of Japan" and the "East Sea."  

19                So I commend the sponsor and Senator 

20   Stavisky for making certain that our laws and our 

21   textbooks in New York reflect common parlance and 

22   that all nations and our heritage across the 

23   world is being honored.

24                So thank you to our visitors for 

25   being here today.


                                                               2220

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Gianaris.

 3                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.  

 5                I was listening carefully to what 

 6   Senator Díaz said.  He left out one group among 

 7   the many that have issues here, and that's the 

 8   Greeks.  And my parents are immigrants from 

 9   Greece, and we certainly are aware of many 

10   territorial issues that may seem like they're 

11   international in nature but affect communities 

12   here in New York a great deal.  And when it comes 

13   to issues like that, in the case of Greece it's 

14   disputes over the Island of Cyprus or of Northern 

15   Epirus and other territories.  

16                I'm proud to say that Senator 

17   Skelos, who's also of Greek heritage, and I work 

18   together very well on issues like that, and we've 

19   had great success in the Senate working in a 

20   bipartisan fashion.  And it may shock some to 

21   realize that politics affects what we do here, 

22   but on some issues it shouldn't.  And issues that 

23   matter to communities like this one are one of 

24   them.  Or is one of them.  

25                And that's why I too want to stand 


                                                               2221

 1   up and make the point very clear that we would 

 2   not be here passing this bill today if it were 

 3   not for Senator Toby Stavisky and the great 

 4   efforts she's put in on this issue.  

 5                Despite what others may want to 

 6   claim, the fact is the issue was first raised and 

 7   the case was made aggressively by Senator Toby 

 8   Stavisky, and I didn't want this moment to pass 

 9   without recognizing her efforts and making sure 

10   that the Korean communities in my own home county 

11   of Queens and elsewhere know where the thanks 

12   should go -- in addition to others.  Everyone who 

13   votes for this bill should be thanked, of course.  

14   But we shouldn't let politics affect a 

15   recognition of someone who's worked very hard on 

16   an issue like this.  

17                Thank you, Mr. President.  

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Is there 

19   any other Senator to be heard?

20                Senator Montgomery.  

21                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.  

23                I too rise to compliment Senator 

24   Stavisky for her many years of talking to me and 

25   to our conference members about the issues, 


                                                               2222

 1   certainly unique -- not necessarily totally 

 2   unique, but specific to your district as it 

 3   relates to people from the Asian communities.

 4                And I happen to have on my staff, my 

 5   chief of staff in my district office is a young 

 6   person who is Chinese.  And so having her with me 

 7   every day has been so important for the last few 

 8   years in terms of my education, my understanding 

 9   and learning about Asian culture.  And I know how 

10   sensitive it is, because I also have a young 

11   person who is a Puerto Rican person.  And when 

12   you say something that is not correct for her, 

13   she corrects you right away.  And so, you know, 

14   that's how you learn.  

15                And so I appreciate the 

16   conversations that we've had, and it makes me 

17   really proud to be able to say welcome to our 

18   constituents from Korea, and welcome to our 

19   State Senate.  And this is your house, we honor 

20   you.  And you honor us by your presence.

21                And we are learning about your 

22   culture.  And so it's very helpful and important, 

23   and I'm pleased that you are giving us an 

24   opportunity to talk about something that is 

25   important to you and your culture and the part of 


                                                               2223

 1   the world that you represent.  And that's how we 

 2   all learn about each other, and certainly this is 

 3   a teaching moment for us.

 4                So thank you, welcome to you, and 

 5   thank you, Senator Stavisky.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Is there 

 7   any other Senators wishing to be heard?  

 8                Senator Hassell-Thompson.

 9                SENATOR HASSELL-THOMPSON:   Thank 

10   you, Mr. President.

11                I rise to add my voice to those of 

12   my colleagues and to congratulate both 

13   Senator Avella and Senator Stavisky.  

14                I stand here and talk about the 

15   large, very diverse populations that I represent.  

16   I don't have a large Korean population in my 

17   community.  But I was supposed to have been in 

18   Korea last week because you have a sister city 

19   agreement with the City of Mount Vernon and with 

20   one of our business community who has developed a 

21   vocational program.  And we will be doing 

22   business with you, with your LCD lights, and we 

23   are very excited about that opportunity.  My 

24   mayor and several others traveled to Korea, but 

25   because of my duties here in the Senate I was not 


                                                               2224

 1   able to go.  

 2                But I feel very happy today to be 

 3   here with my colleagues as we help you to change 

 4   the history and as we read history, so that your 

 5   children and our children will get it right.  And 

 6   so I commend you for your work on this, and to my 

 7   colleagues who have done the job that they need 

 8   to do to ensure that our textbooks reflect 

 9   inclusiveness, not exclusiveness.  

10                And thank you.  Thank you for being 

11   here.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Is there 

13   any other Senator who wishes to speak?

14                Senator Avella to close debate.

15                SENATOR AVELLA:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.  

17                And I'll be quick.  I know our 

18   guests have been here for a long, long time.  

19                First of all, I do want to thank the 

20   Majority Coleaders, Senator Skelos and Senator 

21   Klein, for bringing my bill to the floor.  

22                But I do want to recognize the 

23   members of the Korean-American community that are 

24   here from Queens and have been here for a long 

25   time up in the gallery, and the special leaders 


                                                               2225

 1   of the Korean-American community that are here.  

 2   And I'll ask them to rise as I introduce them.  

 3                And the first person I'd like to 

 4   recognize is the person who brought this issue to 

 5   my attention over two years ago, and we've been 

 6   working on it ever since, Christine Colligan, the 

 7   president of the Korean American Parents 

 8   Association of Greater New York.

 9                The next person I'd like to 

10   recognize is somebody who' also has been working 

11   on this for years and represents the largest 

12   umbrella group of Korean organizations in 

13   New York, and that's Mr. Sung Min, president of 

14   the Korean American Association of Greater 

15   New York.

16                Next I'd like to recognize Mr. Hyung 

17   Bin Im, president of the Senior Citizen Voters' 

18   Federation of New York.  

19                Paul Song, president of the Korean 

20   American Junior Chamber.  

21                Paul Yoo, president of the Korean 

22   American Association of Queens.  

23                Mr. Won Choi, president of the 

24   Korean American Seafood Association of New York.  

25                Mr. Thomas Rho, president of the 


                                                               2226

 1   Korean Veterans Association, Northeast Region.  

 2                Reverend Kyung Hwang, of The Council 

 3   of Korean Churches of Greater New York.  

 4                Mr. Myung Jae Lee, president of the 

 5   Seoul Gyung-Gi United Association of New York.

 6                Mr. Young Bae Choi, president, 

 7   R.O.K.  Marine Corps Veterans Association of 

 8   Eastern USA.  

 9                And Reverend Man Ho Lee, executive 

10   director of the Elim Senior Center.  

11                And on behalf of all of us here who 

12   are voting for this bill today, you know, we 

13   appreciate your coming.  We appreciate your 

14   waiting so long for this bill to pass.  And this 

15   is an historic bill, and I know that the Assembly 

16   will pick this up and pass it and then we will 

17   move on to having the Governor sign it.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

19   debate is closed.

20                The Secretary will ring the bell.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, if 

22   you can instruct members to sit in their seats so 

23   we can take the roll call.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Will all 

25   members please take their seats, their assigned 


                                                               2227

 1   seats.

 2                I ask all members to please return 

 3   to their seats.  

 4                Read the last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect July 1, 2016.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

11   DeFrancisco to explain his vote.

12                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, I came 

13   here today fully prepared to vote no.  And not 

14   because of the issue, but because of the 

15   procedure.  I believe, and I think I voted 

16   consistently, that the Legislature should not be 

17   writing textbooks for the Education Department 

18   and that the Education Department should be 

19   passing on these things.  And if it's so well 

20   received, they should, in their capacity, change 

21   the textbooks.

22                But I guess in this situation, when 

23   a substantial segment of our community wants to 

24   get this done and it hasn't been done yet, then I 

25   guess I'll make an exception this time.


                                                               2228

 1                But I'm requesting to the Education 

 2   Department, whosever may be listening, if they 

 3   haven't gone home yet, why don't you do this 

 4   before the Governor has to address the bill and 

 5   show that you've been listening to the people of 

 6   the State of New York and you'll do it 

 7   administratively?  

 8                So I vote aye.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

10   DeFrancisco to be recorded in the affirmative.

11                Senator Rivera to explain his vote.

12                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President, to explain my vote.

14                First of all, I thank Senator 

15   DeFrancisco for voting aye on this bill.  And I 

16   will be voting in the affirmative as well.  

17                And I just want to reiterate, 

18   particularly considering that we have so many 

19   wonderful guests here, and considering what this 

20   means to our ability to be able to teach our 

21   young people about the historical realities of 

22   the particular Korean community here in the State 

23   of New York, I want to thank again Senator 

24   Stavisky.  Because I believe that without Senator 

25   Stavisky's advocacy on this, without having her 


                                                               2229

 1   have it brought to us as well as she did, I don't 

 2   think any of us would be educated on it and I 

 3   certainly don't think we would be voting on this 

 4   bill today.

 5                I will reiterate, however, 

 6   Mr. President -- I know, two minutes, I know.  

 7   I've still got about one.  I will also reiterate 

 8   not only again my great admiration for Senator 

 9   Stavisky, but also to say that it is unfortunate 

10   that we do not have an Assembly cosponsor so far.

11                So I am hoping that we get the 

12   opportunity to do that, to have an Assembly 

13   cosponsor, and that we're able to make this into 

14   law in the State of New York before this year is 

15   through.  

16                With that, Mr. President, I will be 

17   voting from the affirmative.  Thank you.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

20                Senator Farley to explain his vote.

21                SENATOR FARLEY:   Mr. President, I 

22   rise to pay tribute to this Korean community for 

23   having patience as we go through this legislative 

24   process today.  You're to be applauded for your 

25   patience with us and what is going on here.  


                                                               2230

 1   Congratulations.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 3   Farley, how do you vote?  

 4                SENATOR FARLEY:   I vote aye.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   Farley to be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                Announce the results.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9   Calendar Number 278, those recorded in the 

10   negative:  Senator Zeldin.  

11                Absent from voting:  Senator Ball.

12                Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                (Standing ovation.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

17   Libous.  

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, can 

19   we please take up Calendar 433.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

21   Secretary will read.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   433, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 6695, 

24   an act to amend the State Law.

25                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Explanation.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Krueger has requested an explanation, Senator 

 3   Ranzenhofer.

 4                Can I have some order in the 

 5   chamber, please.

 6                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you, 

 7   Mr. President.

 8                This bill would designate yogurt as 

 9   the official state snack of the State of 

10   New York.

11                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

12   Mr. President, if the sponsor --

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

14   Krueger.

15                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  If, 

16   through you, the sponsor would please yield.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Will the 

18   sponsor yield for a question from Senator 

19   Krueger?  

20                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'd be happy 

21   to yield.

22                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

23                How did the sponsor arrive at yogurt 

24   as the official state snack among all foods here 

25   in New York?  


                                                               2232

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Again, 

 2   I'm going to ask for some order in the chamber.  

 3   I know we have some distinguished guests, but I 

 4   would ask that we move the conversations outside 

 5   the chamber, please.

 6                Senator Krueger, pose your question, 

 7   please.

 8                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Certainly.  How 

 9   did the sponsor arrive at the yogurt as the 

10   official state snack out of all the foods we eat 

11   here in New York State?

12                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Through you, 

13   Mr. President.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

15   Ranzenhofer.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.  First 

17   of all, Senator Krueger, I want to thank you for 

18   that excellent question, because there really is 

19   a history with respect to designating yogurt as 

20   the state snack.  

21                And this is really an example of 

22   democracy in action.  All of us at some point in 

23   our careers have gone into schools and talked to 

24   classes about how a bill becomes a law.  And this 

25   particular situation --


                                                               2233

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   I'd ask 

 2   the Sergeant to remove those who are making noise 

 3   in the chamber right now.  I want the members to 

 4   be able to engage in this conversation.  All 

 5   conversations to be taken outside the chamber, 

 6   please.

 7                Senator Ranzenhofer, you may 

 8   continue.

 9                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.  

11                There is a fourth-grade class in the 

12   Byron-Bergen Elementary School, and their teacher 

13   is Craig Schroth.  He is a fourth-grade teacher 

14   in that school.  And earlier this year they were 

15   studying government.  And one of the things that 

16   they were studying in their government class is 

17   reviewing different state symbols.  

18                At the same time, you may remember, 

19   at the time just before the Olympics started, 

20   that Russia was not allowing the United States to 

21   bring yogurt into the country during the 

22   Olympics.  

23                So through the course of their 

24   studies and what was happening in current events, 

25   they decided that this would be a great example 


                                                               2234

 1   of a state snack.  It makes sense from a health 

 2   standpoint, in that yogurt contains many vital 

 3   ingredients that are healthy.  Specifically, 

 4   yogurt tastes great, it's a good source of 

 5   protein, calcium, vitamin B, potassium and 

 6   magnesium, all nutrients that are an important of 

 7   a good and healthy diet.  

 8                It makes sense from an economic 

 9   standpoint.  Because if you were here during the 

10   debate earlier when we confirmed a new 

11   agricultural commissioner, and earlier during the 

12   Finance Committee, the commissioner talked about 

13   how this made sense, that New York has now become 

14   the number-one producer of yogurt.  It used to be 

15   California; now it is New York State.  New York 

16   produces more yogurt than any other state in the 

17   nation.  In the last ten or so years, we've 

18   tripled the number of yogurt producers in the 

19   State of New York.

20                It's also done a tremendous service 

21   to our dairy producers, in the amount and the 

22   volume of milk that has been produced in the 

23   State of New York.  

24                All of you should have received 

25   letters, they went on to a letter-writing 


                                                               2235

 1   campaign.  And some of the letters that were 

 2   forwarded to me, I heard from Paul Harmer, who is 

 3   a sixth-grade student there, Madison Farnsworth, 

 4   Coltin Henry, Sara Fraser.  Also members of the 

 5   fourth-grade class -- Madelynn Pimm, Alayna 

 6   Streeter, and Meghan Kendall -- have done a very, 

 7   very good job of advocating for a state snack 

 8   that both has very positive ingredients from an 

 9   economic standpoint.  And from a health 

10   standpoint, they could not have chosen a 

11   healthier snack than yogurt.  

12                So I think for both of those 

13   reasons, I think that gives the body and you, 

14   Senator Krueger, a little bit about the history 

15   of how this bill has worked its way in really our 

16   democracy when you have a bunch of fourth-grade 

17   students studying in class, came up with a 

18   project, and here we are on the floor of the 

19   State Senate, this bill having moved through 

20   committee, now discussing how a bill becomes a 

21   law in really the framework of a democracy from a 

22   bunch of 9th and 10th graders who introduced this 

23   concept statewide.

24                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

25   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 


                                                               2236

 1   yield.

 2                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Fourth.  

 3   Fourth-graders, I stand corrected.

 4                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Well, that was an 

 5   interesting soliloquy.  Did we ask the 

 6   fourth-graders if they would consider other foods 

 7   to be the state snack, or did we just give them 

 8   the yogurt option?  

 9                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Well, it 

10   wasn't an option that was given to them.  This is 

11   something that they came up with on their own.  

12                As I said, they were studying state 

13   symbols throughout New York State and other 

14   states.  And this was not something that their 

15   teacher gave to them or their Senator or their 

16   elected representative gave to them.  This is 

17   based on the fact that they live in an 

18   agricultural community, that they realize that 

19   yogurt is a very healthy snack.  

20                There are 22 Senators that have 

21   yogurt-producing manufacturers within their 

22   district.  We have yogurt manufacturers actually 

23   in every single region of the state.  We have 

24   them in Long Island, we have them in New York 

25   City, we have them in the Mid-Hudson, the Capital 


                                                               2237

 1   Region, the Mohawk Region, the Central Region, 

 2   the North Country, Southern Tier, Finger Lakes, 

 3   and Western New York.  

 4                And it's through their research and 

 5   their hard work that in their judgment, okay, in 

 6   this school's judgment, in this class judgment, 

 7   that they felt that this would be the healthiest 

 8   state snack, they felt this state snack really 

 9   would send an economic message.  Because in their 

10   community just in the last couple of years, there 

11   have been 500 jobs that have been created by the 

12   opening of two new yogurt-producing 

13   manufacturers, Alpina and Muller.

14                So this is not something that was 

15   handed down to them, this is a product which they 

16   thought would be a very good state snack and a 

17   good representative, and to really tell the rest 

18   of America that this is a good state snack, it's 

19   a healthy state snack, it's a state snack that 

20   this body should adopt.  

21                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

22   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

23   yield.

24                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'd be happy 

25   to yield to Senator Krueger.


                                                               2238

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 2   sponsor yields.

 3                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I do love the 

 4   story of the fourth-graders enjoying yogurt.  The 

 5   sponsor referenced it's a healthy food.  

 6   Sometimes.  Is there any clarification in his 

 7   proposal that this yogurt would need to be a 

 8   low-sugar, low-fat yogurt?  Or could it be it be 

 9   any kind of yogurt?  Because some of them on the 

10   market actually have so much sugar our children 

11   shouldn't be eating it even if they like it.

12                So is there a definition of the kind 

13   of yogurt that would be our healthy state snack?  

14                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I don't 

15   believe that the fourth-graders wanted to 

16   discriminate between different types of yogurts.  

17   We have low-fat yogurt and regular yogurt, we 

18   have Greek yogurt, we have soy yogurt.  There are 

19   many yogurts that are manufactured in the State 

20   of New York and across the country.  

21                The general concept of yogurt as 

22   being a healthy snack was the overriding factor 

23   in these fourth-graders deciding that this should 

24   be the state snack of the State of New York and 

25   asking for this body's consent and approval to go 


                                                               2239

 1   ahead and have yogurt generically, without 

 2   defining it -- whether it's Greek yogurt or not 

 3   Greek yogurt or low-fat yogurt or not low-fat 

 4   yogurt, they thought that the concept of yogurt 

 5   was so important that it just sends a very good 

 6   message, and that yogurt should be the state 

 7   snack for this state.

 8                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

 9   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

10   yield.

11                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'd happy to 

12   continue to yield to Senator Krueger.

13                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

14                So we've spent a lot of time on this 

15   floor talking about the diversity of the State of 

16   New York and how people come here from all over 

17   the world to be New Yorkers and how proud we are 

18   of that.  

19                So one of my possible concerns with 

20   supporting yogurt as the New York State official 

21   snack is the issue of lactose intolerance.  And 

22   in fact, research shows that 80 to 90 percent --

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

24   Krueger, are you on the bill now or are you 

25   asking a question?  


                                                               2240

 1                SENATOR KRUEGER:   No, it's a long 

 2   question, Mr. President.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Okay.

 4                SENATOR KRUEGER:   So research shows 

 5   that 80 to 90 percent of people from the 

 6   continent of Africa and people from the continent 

 7   of Asia are actually lactose intolerant, where in 

 8   fact dairy snacks aren't really that good a 

 9   health idea for them.  

10                Does the sponsor have any suggestion 

11   about possibly having multiple state snacks, 

12   those that one group of people might enjoy eating 

13   and another snack that other people may have more 

14   physical ability to participate in, so that we 

15   have a lactose and a non-lactose state snack?  

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   That's an 

17   excellent question, and one that I can actually 

18   speak to from personal experience.

19                One of the alternatives to yogurt or 

20   one of the kinds of yogurts that someone can 

21   eat -- and I know this because my wife eats this 

22   type of yogurt -- is soy yogurt.  So yogurt is a 

23   yogurt which is not made from dairy, although 

24   most yogurt is.  But for those that cannot eat 

25   dairy products and that cannot consume milk, 


                                                               2241

 1   there is soy yogurt, which does not have the very 

 2   products which you are concerned about.  

 3                And that's why, back to your earlier 

 4   question in terms of designating a specific type 

 5   of yogurt, yogurt is a very generic and 

 6   all-inclusive type of product.  So it does 

 7   include soy yogurt.  Although a lot of the 

 8   discussion that I've engaged in with you during 

 9   this evening has been about, you know, the dairy 

10   industry, but it is broad enough to include soy 

11   yogurt, which would address the very concern that 

12   you've just raised.

13                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

15   yield.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'd be happy 

17   to continue to yield to Senator Krueger.

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Because we're so 

19   proud of our agricultural sector here in New York 

20   and we spent much of the day talking about the Ag 

21   & Markets commissioner and the important issues 

22   of agriculture, would we need to require that the 

23   state snack of New York be yogurt that is 

24   produced in the State of New York, or would 

25   yogurt from anywhere in the country be acceptable 


                                                               2242

 1   as the New York State snack?  

 2                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   My 

 3   understanding of the law that we have that we are 

 4   discussing and hopefully will shortly enact is 

 5   that simply "yogurt" would be designated as the 

 6   state snack.  

 7                There are, you know, just for 

 8   instance -- let me just give you an example.  You 

 9   know, for instance, we have the state flower, 

10   which is the rose, which was designated in 1955.  

11   Roses are the state flower.  It's not roses that 

12   are grown in the State of New York, but it's the 

13   state flower regardless of where it's grown.  

14                We have the state tree, which is the 

15   sugar maple, which was designated in 1956.  And 

16   again, it's simply the designation of that tree, 

17   not where the tree originates from or, you know, 

18   where it's planted or where it's harvested.  

19                We have, just for example, the state 

20   beverage, milk, which has been in existence since 

21   1981, which would be over 30 years.  And again, 

22   you know, we don't designate whether it's skim 

23   milk or not skim milk.  You know, we don't deal 

24   with the issue of people being lactose 

25   intolerant, because you can still get soy milk.  


                                                               2243

 1   Although I'm not sure if back in 1981 soy milk 

 2   was that prevalent.  But it is the product that 

 3   is designated, and not the source of the product.  

 4                And lastly, let me talk about the 

 5   state muffin.  The state muffin is the apple 

 6   muffin, which was named in 1987.  And again, you 

 7   know, when you're talking about the apple muffin, 

 8   it's not the fact that the apple muffin is baked 

 9   in Syracuse or the apple muffin is baked in 

10   New York City, it's the fact that (laughing) -- 

11   it's the fact that we have the apple muffin.  

12                So I hope that answers your 

13   question.

14                (Laughter.)

15                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

16   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

17   yield.

18                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   (Laughing.)  

19   I'd be happy to.

20                (Laughter.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

22   sponsor yields.

23                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Let's stick with 

24   the yogurt for a minute, not the apple muffin.

25                So the sponsor has said soy yogurt 


                                                               2244

 1   would count also as a snack.  Just for the 

 2   record, I have recently tried soy yogurt.  There 

 3   are no fourth-graders in the State of New York 

 4   who will want to have soy yogurt as their snack.  

 5   That is just not a food combo that has been 

 6   perfected yet.  

 7                But because fourth-graders are going 

 8   to decide the state snack of New York, at least 

 9   as proposed in this bill, are we concerned that 

10   we are offending other foods that are produced 

11   and popular here in the State of New York?  

12   Perhaps we should have done some kind of survey 

13   asking people do they want yogurt as their state 

14   snack as opposed to other popular foods that get 

15   eaten here and sold here and manufactured here.

16                I know the people of Buffalo think 

17   that Buffalo wings -- 

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   DeFrancisco, why do you rise?

20                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Would Senator 

21   Krueger yield?

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

23   Krueger, do you yield?

24                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I'd be happy to 

25   yield.  Yes, certainly.


                                                               2245

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   DeFrancisco.

 3                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   I'd just like 

 4   to know how you offend foods.

 5                (Laughter.)

 6                SENATOR KRUEGER:   You know what, I 

 7   stand corrected.  The food is not offended, the 

 8   taste bed buds of fourth-graders probably would 

 9   be offended if they were to try soy yogurt 

10   believing that that was the snack they were in 

11   search of.  

12                Do you have other questions, 

13   Senator?  

14                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   No, that 

15   was --

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

17   Krueger, you may continue.

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Are you 

20   now on the bill or asking further questions?

21                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Wait, I have 

22   one other question.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

24   DeFrancisco.

25                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   The question 


                                                               2246

 1   is, are you kidding me?  That's my question.

 2                (Laughter.)

 3                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

 4   Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   Krueger.

 7                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I actually would 

 8   ask the same question about our having this bill 

 9   here on the floor.  Who's kidding whom?  

10                There are state products.  There's a 

11   process we go through.  It's not the most 

12   important thing we do here on the floor of the 

13   Senate, I would argue, for any of these products, 

14   whether it's the apple muffin or I distinctly 

15   remember we once -- we once passed a New York 

16   State beetle, I believe it was, or bug.  And we 

17   made it a ladybug.  And then a year later we 

18   learned that that particular genus species of 

19   ladybug was extinct and hadn't been seen in 

20   New York for something like 60 or 70 years, so we 

21   had to pass a new bill clarifying it was a 

22   different genus species of ladybug.  I'm not sure 

23   how important that one was either.

24                I distinctly remember an extended 

25   fight in the Rules Committee between two Senators 


                                                               2247

 1   over which should be the saltwater fish of 

 2   New York State, because there was very passionate 

 3   opinions pro and con, particularly, saltwater 

 4   fish at least one year in the Rules Committee.  

 5   And I'm not even sure we ever decided that here 

 6   on the floor of the Senate.

 7                But again, if you're going to pick a 

 8   state snack, I think you should actually go 

 9   through some process of asking the people of 

10   New York to weigh in on it.  You notice the pun, 

11   weigh?  Yogurt?  

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Okay, 

13   members, I'm going to ask for some order in the 

14   chamber.

15                Senator Krueger, are you now on the 

16   bill or are you still responding to -- is that a 

17   long answer to Senator DeFrancisco's question?  

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I think that was 

19   a long answer to Senator DeFrancisco's question, 

20   but I would be happy to move on.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Are you 

22   now posing a question or on the bill?  Just for 

23   clarification.

24                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I am posing a 

25   question, thank you, to the sponsor.


                                                               2248

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Krueger would like the Senator to yield.  

 3   Sponsor, do you continue to yield?

 4                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes, 

 5   Mr. President.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   And I'm 

 7   going to ask for order in the chamber.

 8                Senator Krueger, you may continue.

 9                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

10                I was wondering whether the sponsor 

11   would consider amending his bill to allow us to 

12   have a poll or some other scientific method to 

13   determine whether New Yorkers want one specific 

14   snack or multiple snacks.  And if they did, what 

15   their preference for the New York State snack 

16   would be.  

17                Because if New York State is going 

18   to have an official state snack, as much as I 

19   might find a specific classroom of fourth-graders 

20   adorable and brilliant, I just think the process 

21   should be broadened a bit.  Would the sponsor 

22   consider expanding the research about what the 

23   New York State snack ought to be before we 

24   propose one official food?

25                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   My answer to 


                                                               2249

 1   Senator Krueger is I think at some point, you 

 2   know, we need to show leadership.  In this 

 3   particular example, you know, this has come from 

 4   a fourth-grade class.  They've proposed it.  

 5   Every piece of legislation that we pass or 

 6   consider, you know, we don't always take a poll 

 7   to see which way the wind is blowing.  

 8                I know in the rich history of 

 9   New York in which we've named other state 

10   symbols, you know, we've done it in a similar 

11   way.  I know that other states such as 

12   Massachusetts and other states across the country 

13   have done the same way.  

14                So my feeling is that I think this 

15   is the appropriate state snack.  That's why this 

16   bill has been in front of this body for 

17   approximately several weeks, several months.  And 

18   I'm prepared to move it forward.  I think it's 

19   the right choice for the State of New York.  

20                SENATOR KRUEGER:   On the bill, 

21   Mr. President.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

23   Krueger on the bill.

24                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I appreciate the 

25   sponsor's answers.  I appreciate the humor we are 


                                                               2250

 1   all taking from this, and that's appropriate.  

 2                To be honest, I don't think I can 

 3   vote to make yogurt the official state snack 

 4   right here right now in this chamber.  There's 

 5   probably a lot of different good reasons to 

 6   consider many different foods, and I don't think 

 7   we should rush to judgment on yogurt tonight.

 8                I will be voting no.  Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

11   Rivera.

12                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.  If the sponsor would yield for a 

14   few questions.

15                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'd be happy 

16   to.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

18   sponsor yields.

19                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

20   Mr. President.

21                I have some of the same concerns 

22   that Senator Krueger had, through you, 

23   Mr. President.  But I'll start on another line of 

24   questioning, if you will.

25                First of all, it's very interesting, 


                                                               2251

 1   you know, that each state has their own different 

 2   things -- state flower, state animal, state rock, 

 3   et cetera.  As far as a state snack, what exactly 

 4   are we defining as a snack here?  Through you, 

 5   Mr. President.

 6                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I think it's 

 7   self-explanatory.  I mean, you have breakfast, 

 8   lunch, and dinner.  And then you have snacks.

 9                (Laughter.)

10                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   That's the 

11   way I would define it, as a snack.

12                (Laughter.)

13                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Senator 

14   Rivera, knowing how much time that you and I have 

15   spent in the lunchroom, I think that we both know 

16   what a snack is.

17                (Laughter.)

18                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

19   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

20   yield.

21                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'd be happy 

22   to yield to Senator Rivera.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

24   sponsor yields.

25                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 


                                                               2252

 1   Mr. President.  

 2                Well, first of all, I'd correct 

 3   Senator Libous, who is shaking a -- that's candy.  

 4   Candy can be considered -- I guess that could be 

 5   considered a snack as well.

 6                So, Mr. President, through you, so a 

 7   snack could be anything that is -- to understand 

 8   the definition, a snack is anything that is eaten 

 9   in between the main meals of the day, a breakfast 

10   or lunch or dinner.  Through you, Mr. President, 

11   is that correct?

12                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   When you were 

13   giving your example, I mean, a snack is something 

14   that you eat at other meals, but the snack is the 

15   actual product.  So you can have a snack, which 

16   in this case would be yogurt, as a snack in 

17   between meals.  You can have yogurt, even though 

18   that it would be the state snack, you can have 

19   that at breakfast, as I do.  

20                What we're doing here is we're 

21   designating a product to be the snack.

22                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

23   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

24   yield.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 


                                                               2253

 1   sponsor yields.

 2                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'd be happy 

 3   to.

 4                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.  You didn't say the sponsor 

 6   yields, so I was --

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   I did say 

 8   the sponsor yields, Senator Rivera.  You may 

 9   continue with your question.

10                SENATOR RIVERA:   Oh, sorry.  Thank 

11   you, Mr. President.

12                It's interesting that we're making 

13   that distinction, because what if I wake up in 

14   the morning and I have a vat of -- not a vat, but 

15   a cup, if you will, of yogurt.  Yeah, vat.  I 

16   mean look at the size of me.  Obviously, it would 

17   be something like a vat.  But just a cup of 

18   yogurt for breakfast, I guess that would not be 

19   considered a snack.  Is that correct, 

20   Mr. President?  Through you.

21                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   No, that 

22   would be incorrect.  Because the product is the 

23   snack.  It's not the time that you eat it.

24                So if you have yogurt at breakfast 

25   and yogurt is the state snack, you're eating the 


                                                               2254

 1   state snack of yogurt at breakfast.

 2                So we're talking about the product.

 3                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

 4   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

 5   yield.

 6                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 8   sponsor yields.

 9                SENATOR RIVERA:   So to clarify that 

10   response, you're saying we'd be eating it -- I'm 

11   not saying I'm eating it at breakfast.  If I say 

12   I'm eating it for breakfast, would that not make 

13   it a breakfast food as opposed to a snack?

14                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   The product 

15   is yogurt.  And again, that would be the state 

16   snack.  So no matter when you ate it, it would be 

17   still be the state snack.  

18                We're talking about the product, not 

19   the time that you eat it.

20                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

21   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

22   yield.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

24   sponsor yields.

25                SENATOR RIVERA:   So if I'm eating 


                                                               2255

 1   it for breakfast and I'm calling it breakfast as 

 2   opposed to a snack, I guess I'm misusing it at 

 3   that point?  

 4                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Again, I 

 5   wouldn't characterize it that way.  You may.

 6                I'm talking about the product that 

 7   we're trying to name as the state snack.

 8                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

 9   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

10   yield.

11                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

13   sponsor yields.

14                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.  

16                So actually let's dig down into the 

17   actual kind of yogurt, since there's different 

18   kinds.  I know that you're probably familiar -- 

19   and I know that my Greek colleague here in the 

20   Senate chamber -- my Greek colleagues, right, 

21   because Senator Skelos as well as Senator 

22   Gianaris.  There might be other Greeks -- are 

23   there other Greeks in the Senate?  I'm not sure.  

24   There might be just two.  

25                But they're very familiar with Greek 


                                                               2256

 1   yogurt, right?  We have a brand, Mr. President, 

 2   produced here in New York State that has been 

 3   very successful, Chobani, I believe they're 

 4   called.  Not to do an unpaid-for plug on the 

 5   floor of the Senate, but certainly they have been 

 6   a very successful New York company.

 7                That is a Greek yogurt manufacturer.  

 8   Does the sponsor know the difference between 

 9   yogurt and Greek yogurt?  And if so, are we then, 

10   by voting on this bill, saying that Greek yogurt 

11   would not be a considered a state snack and 

12   yogurt would?  If there's a difference between 

13   the two.

14                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes, I know 

15   the difference.  

16                And just like when we designated 

17   milk, we don't distinguish between chocolate milk 

18   and strawberry milk, we don't distinguish between 

19   skim milk and 2 percent.

20                As with that product, we are not 

21   distinguishing here.  It is yogurt no matter what 

22   type of yogurt it is.

23                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

24   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

25   yield.


                                                               2257

 1                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 3   sponsor yields.

 4                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.  

 6                Just for my own edification, what is 

 7   the difference between yogurt and Greek yogurt?  

 8   I'm not familiar.  

 9                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Greek yogurt 

10   normally has about three times the amount of milk 

11   in it than regular yogurt.

12                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you.  

13   Mr. President, through you, if the sponsor would 

14   continue to yield.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Does the 

16   sponsor yield?

17                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

19   sponsor will yield.

20                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.

22                So in consideration of the -- as 

23   you're saying you want to make it the official 

24   state snack, and considering some of the 

25   concerns that Senator Krueger brought up as far 


                                                               2258

 1   as the different types of snacks that there 

 2   exist, did you consider, say, the potato chip as 

 3   a potential state snack?

 4                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   No.

 5                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

 6   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

 7   yield.

 8                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

10   sponsor yields.

11                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.  

13                Did the sponsor consider raisins as 

14   a potential official state snack?  

15                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   No.

16                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

17   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

18   yield.

19                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

21   sponsor yields.

22                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.

24                Did the sponsor consider perhaps 

25   pretzels as the potential official state snack?  


                                                               2259

 1                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Never.

 2                (Laughter.)

 3                SENATOR RIVERA:   You should.  Those 

 4   are good.

 5                Mr. President, through you, if the 

 6   sponsor would continue to yield.

 7                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

 9   sponsor yields.

10                SENATOR RIVERA:   Actually, that's 

11   an interesting question.  What if -- through you, 

12   Mr. President, if the pretzel was dipped in 

13   yogurt, would that then be considered -- could we 

14   consider that?  That would be two in one, 

15   Mr. President.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   The yogurt 

17   would be the state snack; the pretzel would not.

18                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

19   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

20   yield.

21                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

23   sponsor yields.

24                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.  Did you perhaps consider cashews 


                                                               2260

 1   as the official state snack?  

 2                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   No, I would 

 3   never do that.

 4                (Laughter.)

 5                SENATOR RIVERA:   Cashews are good.

 6                Through you, Mr. President, if the 

 7   sponsor would continue to yield.  

 8                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Two more 

 9   questions, yes.

10                SENATOR RIVERA:   Two?

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The  

12   sponsor will yield to a couple of questions, 

13   Senator Rivera. 

14                SENATOR RIVERA:   All right.  I will 

15   make them good ones, then, Mr. President.  

16                Did the sponsor consider hot dogs as 

17   the official state snack?

18                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Never.

19                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

20   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

21   yield for one more question.

22                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   One final 

23   question.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Go ahead, 

25   Senator Rivera.


                                                               2261

 1                SENATOR RIVERA:   I'm thinking, to 

 2   make sure I make it a good one.

 3                Did the sponsor --

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 5   Díaz.

 6                SENATOR RIVERA:   He had a good 

 7   suggestion, Mr. President.  

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   That's 

 9   okay, Senator Rivera.  You have the floor.  

10   Please pose your question.

11                SENATOR RIVERA:   Yes, thank you, 

12   Mr. President.  Did the sponsor consider perhaps 

13   making cheesecake the official state snack?  

14                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Absolutely 

15   not.

16                SENATOR RIVERA:   Mr. President, on 

17   the bill, please.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

19   Rivera on the bill.

20                SENATOR RIVERA:   First of all, I 

21   thank the sponsor for answering questions.  

22                I do think that some of our Brooklyn 

23   colleagues were particularly perturbed by the way 

24   in which you answered that last question, seeming 

25   to suggest that cheesecake would not be an 


                                                               2262

 1   acceptable form of snack.  I think they would 

 2   disagree with you, particularly the folks that 

 3   live close to Juniors down there.

 4                Mr. President, I share some of the 

 5   concerns that Senator Krueger expressed.  And 

 6   while I do consider that yogurt is yummy, 

 7   certainly, I do think that we need to consider 

 8   whether on issues of health -- I know that the 

 9   sponsor was talking about this being a healthy 

10   option.  There are certain types of yogurt that 

11   are certainly healthy, others that unfortunately 

12   are not.  

13                Being able to make sure that we tell 

14   the same fourth-graders that brought us this idea 

15   that maybe we should focus on having yogurt made 

16   from skim milk, ones that are low in sugar, would 

17   be very important to make sure that we don't 

18   encourage a snack which will be obviously very 

19   high in calories, very high in sugar, et cetera.  

20                I do think that we should have a 

21   conversation with other folks across the state to 

22   really consider what other types of state snacks 

23   would potentially, could potentially be utilized.  

24   I mean, certainly raisins or yogurt-covered 

25   raisins, pretzels or yogurt-covered pretzels.  I 


                                                               2263

 1   think we could make a combination of a couple of 

 2   these and come up with some good options.  

 3                Potato chips and, for those that 

 4   don't like potato chips, how about kale chips?  

 5   Those are really good.  You can get them in some 

 6   of the very good supermarkets across the state.  

 7   And I do believe that kale is grown in the State 

 8   of New York as well, so obviously it would be a 

 9   good choice.  

10                I think that there are certainly 

11   many potential foods that could be considered 

12   snacks that we should consider having as the 

13   official state snacks.  So I think that we should 

14   have a broader discussion than just this one type 

15   of food.  

16                But I do thank the sponsor for 

17   bringing it up.  Because obviously, if nothing 

18   else, it has brought a very fruitful and good 

19   discussion on the floor of the Senate.  I'm sure 

20   that some of my other colleagues might have 

21   further questions.  

22                So thank the sponsor, and I will be 

23   voting in the affirmative on this piece of 

24   legislation.

25                Thank you, Mr. President.


                                                               2264

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   Stavisky.

 3                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.

 5                I notice that all of the suggestions 

 6   regarding snacks can be found in our little 

 7   lounge off the floor.  Is there any 

 8   significance --

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

10   Stavisky, are you on the bill?

11                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Oh, I'm sorry, 

12   will the sponsor -- no, I have a few questions.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

14   Ranzenhofer, will you yield to several questions 

15   from Senator Stavisky?  

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   A few.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

18   Stavisky.

19                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Well, then, I'll 

20   try to include -- is there any significance to 

21   the fact that yogurt and some of the other 

22   suggestions mentioned by Senator Rivera are 

23   served in our lounge?  

24                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Well, the 

25   cheesecake I thought more of a dessert than --


                                                               2265

 1                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Well, that's 

 2   wishful thinking, I suspect.

 3                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yeah.  But I 

 4   think, again, there are -- some of the 

 5   suggestions that Senator Rivera made I thought 

 6   quite frankly were unhealthy.  And I certainly 

 7   would not use the guidepost the food that is 

 8   served in the Senate lounge as food to name a 

 9   state snack after.

10                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you.  Will 

11   the Senator continue to yield.

12                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Two more 

13   questions.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

15   Senator yields.

16                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Seriously, if 

17   this legislation is enacted, will the 

18   manufacturers of the yogurt be able to list on 

19   their label official New York State logo -- or 

20   "official New York State yogurt"?

21                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I don't 

22   believe so.  I mean, if you look at any other 

23   product that has a state designation, I don't 

24   necessarily believe if you buy a rosebush that 

25   you'll see the state symbol on the rosebush or if 


                                                               2266

 1   you buy the muffin that you'll see the state 

 2   symbol on the muffin.  So I would say no.

 3                SENATOR STAVISKY:   If the Senator 

 4   would continue.

 5                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   One more 

 6   question.

 7                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Would New York 

 8   State be able to get any of the profits from this 

 9   designation, or a percentage of the profits?  

10                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I believe it 

11   would be similarly treated as other 

12   state-designated symbols.

13                SENATOR STAVISKY:   If -- if the 

14   Senator would -- would it be possible -- what 

15   will be the cost, if yogurt is designated as the 

16   official snack, in terms of reprinting brochures 

17   and expressions of advertising?

18                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I don't 

19   really understand your question.  I'm not sure 

20   whose cost you're talking about.

21                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Will there be an 

22   additional cost?  That's the question.

23                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   No.

24                SENATOR STAVISKY:   And my last 

25   question is related to Senator Libous's comment 


                                                               2267

 1   earlier about --

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 3   Stavisky, can you come through the chair, please, 

 4   direct your question?  

 5                SENATOR STAVISKY:   On the bill.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 7   Stavisky on the bill.

 8                SENATOR STAVISKY:   My last question 

 9   would have been Senator Libous mentioned 

10   Commissioner Ball's carrot cookies as being out 

11   of this world.  Can we consider the carrot 

12   cookie --

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Carrot oatmeal.

14                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Oh, sorry, 

15   carrot and oatmeal.

16                I think this questions the whole 

17   something of official designations and what the 

18   meaning is.  Nevertheless, Mr. President, I will 

19   vote in favor of this bill.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

21   Bonacic.

22                SENATOR BONACIC:   Will Senator 

23   Ranzenhofer stand for a question of the sponsor, 

24   please?  

25                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.


                                                               2268

 1                SENATOR BONACIC:   If this 

 2   legislation were to become law, does any consumer 

 3   in the State of New York have to eat yogurt or 

 4   can they eat any snack they want?  

 5                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Right.

 6                SENATOR BONACIC:   They can eat any 

 7   snack they want.  They don't have to eat yogurt.

 8                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   They can now 

 9   and they could afterwards.

10                SENATOR BONACIC:   Okay, on the 

11   bill.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

13   Bonacic on the bill.

14                SENATOR BONACIC:   I want to thank 

15   Senator Ranzenhofer for putting this bill forward 

16   for a variety of reasons.

17                Yes, there's a menu of what people 

18   like and preferences for their snacks.  But when 

19   you look at yogurt -- and, you know, I usually 

20   see it when I come into our little Senate food 

21   room there.  And when we come in there, there's 

22   maybe six to eight of them, and within an hour 

23   there's none left if you come an hour later.  So 

24   I think a lot of the members here embrace yogurt 

25   as a good snack -- maybe for lunch, maybe as 


                                                               2269

 1   breakfast, but that's a choice.  But the product 

 2   itself.  

 3                In addition, it provides economic 

 4   vitality to the State of New York, this industry.  

 5   This industry is expanding here.  This industry 

 6   is creating jobs.  They're paying taxes and 

 7   they're doing good things.

 8                This particular product, as opposed 

 9   to some of the suggestions I've heard on the 

10   other side, is very healthy.  And no one is 

11   compelled to eat particular kinds of yogurt, but 

12   whatever kind of yogurt they like.

13                So for a variety of reasons, which 

14   are all good, I think this is an excellent 

15   suggestion to make yogurt the state snack.

16                And as to the question of whether 

17   they can promote it, I think they can.  If the 

18   state says yogurt is the state snack, I think 

19   corporate America and that industry could say 

20   yeah, come try the state snack.  

21                And it's all good.  I see no 

22   negatives against this.  And in fact, some of the 

23   suggestions I know were a little tongue-in-cheek, 

24   but they were very unhealthy, probably promoting 

25   obesity.  And maybe Mayor Bloomberg, if he were 


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 1   still around, would be mad at some of these 

 2   suggestions. 

 3                (Laughter.)

 4                SENATOR BONACIC:   So I vote aye.  

 5   Thank you, Mr. President.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 7   Díaz.

 8                SENATOR DIAZ:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.  I just want to say that I am 

10   glad --

11                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Are you 

12   on the bill, Senator Díaz?  

13                SENATOR DIAZ:   On the bill.  On the 

14   bill.  

15                 -- that we have spent all this time 

16   here talking about if yogurt could be the state 

17   snack.  And the time that we have taken to 

18   question the sponsor of the bill and the time 

19   that we have taken -- and, you know, it's telling 

20   me that we don't have bigger things to do, that 

21   these 63 members of the chamber doesn't have 

22   nothing bigger to do, just to stay here and 

23   question about yogurt, if yogurt could be the 

24   designated snack for the state.  

25                And so the whole state, and 


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 1   everything -- everybody's watching, could see how 

 2   hard we work, how hard we earn our money.  It's 

 3   almost 7 o'clock, and we are here discussing 

 4   yogurt.

 5                I'm honored, honored to be part of 

 6   this great working body, and to be here laying 

 7   aside a bill to discuss if yogurt could be the 

 8   official snack of the state.  Because we don't 

 9   have nothing to do or no problems to discuss with 

10   senior citizens, problems with housing, with 

11   jobs, with farmworkers being exploited.  With so 

12   many other things, we have nothing, we could 

13   spend our time here discussing that yogurt could 

14   be the official snack of New York.

15                This is a great body, I'm honored to 

16   be part of it.  Thank you, Mr. Chair.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

18   Ranzenhofer to close debate.

19                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you, 

20   Mr. President.

21                I'd like to thank my colleagues for 

22   their questions and their comments and for their 

23   support on the bill.  

24                I'd like to thank Craig Schroth from 

25   the Byron-Bergen Elementary School and their 


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 1   students for bringing this idea to the Senate 

 2   body.  As I said, we've all talked in classes 

 3   before, and this is really democracy in action, 

 4   how a group of 9-and-10-year-olds can get 

 5   together and suggest a very good idea for the 

 6   state snack.  

 7                As I said, I think it makes sense 

 8   from a health perspective, I think it makes sense 

 9   from an economic development perspective, and I 

10   encourage all of my colleagues to vote yes on 

11   this bill.  

12                Thank you, Mr. President.  

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

14   debate is closed.  

15                The Secretary will ring the bell.  

16                Read the last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

20   Secretary will call the roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

23   DeFrancisco to explain his vote.

24                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, I want 

25   to agree entirely with Senator Díaz.  


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 1                And I know everyone in this room 

 2   knows why the debate was as long as it was.  It 

 3   had nothing to do with the merits, it had nothing 

 4   to do with the questions.  And if people would be 

 5   honest, they would say exactly why the debate was 

 6   this long.

 7                Number two, Senator Bonacic listed a 

 8   series of reasons why this bill is a good bill.  

 9   One of the most important reasons is there's so 

10   much apathy about government that if a group of 

11   fourth-graders are willing to do research and to 

12   propose bills for this body to consider, we 

13   should seriously consider them and we should vote 

14   in favor unless there's a reason not to.

15                And lastly, as a little 

16   foreshadowing of things to come, I have a 

17   fourth-grade class for which I put in a bill to 

18   make the wood frog the official amphibian of the 

19   State of New York.  

20                (Laughter.)

21                CHAIRMAN DeFRANCISCO:   So get ready 

22   for your questions.  We'll have another debate as 

23   inspiring as this one in the future.

24                Thank you.

25                (Laughter.)


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 2   DeFrancisco, how do you vote?

 3                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Absolutely, 

 4   positively yes.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

 6   DeFrancisco to be recorded absolutely, positively 

 7   yes.

 8                Senator Gallivan to explain his 

 9   vote.

10                SENATOR GALLIVAN:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.

12                My colleagues, I may never get to 

13   say this again, but as a proud Byron-Bergen 

14   alumni, I vote aye.

15                (Laughter.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Senator 

17   Gallivan to be recorded in the affirmative.

18                Announce the results.

19                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20   Calendar Number 433, those recorded in the 

21   negative are Senators Krueger --

22                (Pause.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   Will 

24   those in the negative please raise your hands.

25                Results?  


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 1                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2   Calendar Number 433, those recorded in the 

 3   negative are Senators Hoylman, Krueger, Parker, 

 4   Perkins, Sampson, Smith, Squadron and Zeldin.

 5                Absent from voting:  Senator Ball.

 6                Ayes, 52.  Nays, 8.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                Senator Libous.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, 

11   could we lay the rest of the calendar aside for 

12   the day, please.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   The 

14   remainder of the calendar will be laid aside for 

15   the day.

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Is there any 

17   further business at the desk?  

18                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   There is 

19   no further business before the desk.

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   There being no 

21   further business, I move that we adjourn until 

22   Wednesday, May 7th, at 11:00 a.m.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT GRIFFO:   On 

24   motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

25   Wednesday, May 7th, at 11:00 a.m. 


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 1                Senate adjourned.

 2                (Whereupon, at 6:54 p.m., the Senate 

 3   adjourned.)

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