Regular Session - June 12, 2017

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 1               NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4              THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                   June 12, 2017

11                     3:23 p.m.

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14                  REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR FRED AKSHAR, Acting President

19  FRANCIS W. PATIENCE, Secretary

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 1               P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 3   Senate will come to order.  

 4                I ask everyone present to please 

 5   rise and repeat with me the Pledge of 

 6   Allegiance.

 7                (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 8   the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

10   Reverend Thadeus Aravindathu is with us today to 

11   give the invocation.  He is pastor and 

12   administrator of the Church of St. Boniface in 

13   Wesley Hills, New York.  

14                Pastor.  

15                REVEREND ARAVINDATHU:  Let us pray 

16   the prayer by St. Francis of Assisi.  This was 

17   prayed 800 years ago.  Let us pray.

18                Lord, make me a channel of Thy 

19   peace.  Where there is hatred, may I bring love.  

20   Where there is wrong, I may bring the spirit of 

21   forgiveness.  Where there is discord, I may 

22   bring harmony.  Where there is error, I may 

23   bring truth.  Where there is doubt, I may bring 

24   faith.  Where there is despair, I may bring 

25   hope.  Where there are shadows, I may bring 


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 1   light.  Where there is sadness, I may bring joy.

 2                Lord, grant that I may seek rather 

 3   to comfort than to be comforted, to understand 

 4   than to be understood, to love than to be loved.  

 5   For it is by self-forgetting that one finds 

 6   self.  It is by forgiving that one is forgiven.  

 7   It is by dying that one awakens to eternal life.

 8                Amen.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Thank 

10   you, Pastor.

11                The reading of the Journal.

12                THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Sunday, 

13   June 11th, the Senate met pursuant to 

14   adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday, 

15   June 10th, was read and approved.  On motion, 

16   Senate adjourned.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Without 

18   objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

19                Presentation of petitions.

20                Messages from the Assembly.

21                The Secretary will read.

22                THE SECRETARY:   On page 10, 

23   Senator Valesky moves to discharge, from the 

24   Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill Number 4972A 

25   and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 


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 1   1078A, Third Reading Calendar 278.

 2                On page 30, Senator Ortt moves to 

 3   discharge, from the Committee on Health, 

 4   Assembly Bill Number 5175A and substitute it for 

 5   the identical Senate Bill 1241A, Third Reading 

 6   Calendar 715.

 7                On page 37, Senator Klein moves to 

 8   discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 9   Assembly Bill Number 5151B and substitute it for 

10   the identical Senate Bill 2724B, Third Reading 

11   Calendar 830.

12                And on page 85, Senator Montgomery 

13   moves to discharge, from the Committee On Crime 

14   Victims, Crime and Correction, Assembly Bill 

15   Number 3053 and substitute it for the identical 

16   Senate Bill 3982, Third Reading Calendar 1523.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

18   substitutions are so ordered.

19                Messages from the Governor.

20                Reports of standing committees.

21                Reports of select committees.

22                Communications and reports from 

23   state officers.

24                Motions and resolutions.

25                Senator DeFrancisco.


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 1                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yeah, I'd 

 2   like to call up Print Number 1411, by Senator 

 3   Griffo, recalled from the Assembly, which is now 

 4   at the desk.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 6   Secretary will read the title of the bill.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 40, 

 8   by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 1411, an act to 

 9   amend the Volunteer Firefighters' Benefit Law.

10                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   I now move to 

11   reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

13   roll on reconsideration.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 50.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

17   is restored to its place on the Third Reading 

18   Calendar.

19                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   I now offer 

20   the following amendments.  

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

22   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

23   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

24                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   I'd now like 

25   to call up Print Number 6243, by Senator Bonacic, 


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 1   recalled from the Assembly, which is now at the 

 2   desk.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 4   Secretary will read the title of the bill.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   1511, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 6243, an 

 7   act to amend the Tax Law.

 8                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   I move to 

 9   reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

11   roll on reconsideration.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 50.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

15   is restored to its place on the Third Reading 

16   Calendar.  

17                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   I now offer 

18   the following amendments.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

20   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

21   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

22                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    

23   Amendments are offered to the following Third 

24   Reading Calendar bills:  

25                By Senator Funke, page 24, Calendar 


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 1   Number 622, Senate Print 3724;

 2                By Senator Robach, page 29, Calendar 

 3   Number 704, Senate Print 5397; 

 4                By Senator Larkin, page 35, Calendar 

 5   Number 796, Senate Print 5400; 

 6                By Senator Ortt, page 39, Calendar 

 7   Number 868, Senate Print 4825A; 

 8                By Senator Bonacic, page 56, 

 9   Calendar Number 1135, Senate Print 6180; 

10                By Senator Golden, page 63, Calendar 

11   Number 1253, Senate Print 6326; 

12                By Senator Tedisco, page 65, 

13   Calendar 1277, Senate Print 5394; 

14                By Senator Tedisco, page 66, 

15   Calendar Number 1284, Senate Print 5793; 

16                By Senator Griffo, page 72, Calendar 

17   Number 1356, Senate Print 6335; 

18                By Senator Gallivan, page 81, 

19   Calendar Number 1469, Senate Print 4329; 

20                By Senator Bonacic, page 48, 

21   Calendar Number 1038, Senate Print 988; 

22                By Senator Seward, page 50, Calendar 

23   Number 1078, Senate Print 4241.  

24                I now move that these bills retain 

25   their place on the order of third reading.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 2   DeFrancisco, the amendments are received and the 

 3   bills shall retain their place on the Third 

 4   Reading Calendar.

 5                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Would you 

 6   please call on Senator Valesky.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 8   Valesky.

 9                SENATOR VALESKY:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.

11                On behalf of Senator Alcantara, on 

12   page 71 I offer the following amendments to 

13   Calendar 1344, Senate Bill 5778, and ask that 

14   said bill retain its place on the Third Reading 

15   Calendar.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

17   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

18   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.  

19                SENATOR VALESKY:   And on behalf of 

20   Senator Savino, on page 52 I offer the following 

21   amendments to Calendar 1097, Senate Bill 6091, 

22   and ask that said bill retain its place on the 

23   Third Reading Calendar.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

25   amendments are received, and the bill shall 


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 1   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 2                Senator DeFrancisco.

 3                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Can we now 

 4   take up previously adopted Resolution 2399, by 

 5   Senator Young, read the title only, and call on 

 6   Senator Young to speak.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 8   Secretary will read.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

10   Resolution Number 2399, by Senator Young, 

11   commending Lieutenant Liza-J Bobseine upon the 

12   occasion of her designation as recipient of a 

13   Liberty Medal, the highest honor bestowed upon an 

14   individual by the New York State Senate.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

16   Young.

17                SENATOR YOUNG:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.  I want to thank you and my 

19   colleagues for pausing in our deliberations and 

20   allowing me to speak -- and I know Senator 

21   Marchione will be speaking also -- on these two 

22   resolutions that are before us.  The first one is 

23   for Liza-J Bobseine.  The second one is for EnCon 

24   Officer James Davey.  But I want to give a 

25   special introduction.


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 1                This has a lot of significance for 

 2   the people of New York State, because we always 

 3   want to pause and honor those that serve us so 

 4   well.  But it has a lot of personal significance 

 5   for me also, because I've had the privilege of 

 6   being dear friends with the Bobseine family for 

 7   probably about 17 or 18 years now.  And I am so 

 8   proud of this family because they are so unique 

 9   and such great citizens of the State of New York.

10                And I'd like to make some 

11   introductions of people who have joined us today.  

12   First of all, we have Department of Environmental 

13   Conservation Commissioner Basil Seggos, who has 

14   come.  And I want to thank the commissioner for 

15   helping set this up.  

16                But also, Commissioner, I want to 

17   thank you because I know that you care about your 

18   EnCon officers very deeply, and I know that when 

19   this incident occurred, you immediately went to 

20   the hospital.  So thank you for your dedication.

21                We also have been joined by retired 

22   EnCon Captain Gary Bobseine and his wife Jan, who 

23   are the parents of Lieutenant Liza-J Bobseine; 

24   her sister, Katy Bobseine, who is here; and also 

25   Polly Bobseine Albright, who also is a sister.  


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 1   And I want to point out that she also served -- 

 2   and Senator Croci may be interested in this -- in 

 3   Special Forces in Iraq and Afghanistan and was 

 4   2005 Airman of the Year for the entire country.  

 5   So very accomplished there too.

 6                But she's brought along Ruger, who I 

 7   think has taken over the entire Senate.  He's 

 8   4 years old.  I expect him to be a future Senator 

 9   after he becomes a builder and -- what else, 

10   Senator?  A pilot.  So in his spare time he'd 

11   like to be a Senator also.  But I'm glad that 

12   Ruger could come.

13                We have Mr. and Mrs. Ken and Sharon 

14   Davey, parents of EnCon Officer James Davey.  And 

15   welcome to you.  

16                DEC officials are here today.  We 

17   have Chief of Staff Julie Tighe; Assistant 

18   Commissioner Chris Ballantyne; Director Joe 

19   Schneider; Major Scott Florence; Major George 

20   Steele; Captain Tom Caifa.  And also we have 

21   someone who traveled -- two special people -- 

22   from Niagara County today, and that's retired 

23   EnCon Officer Dick Lane and his wife Gretchen.  

24   So welcome to you.  We're so happy that you're 

25   here.


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 1                As this resolution title stated, 

 2   today we are humbly recognizing the bravery and 

 3   fearlessness of two remarkable public servants.  

 4                At approximately 5:20 p.m., a full 

 5   53 minutes after sunset on November 29, 2016, 

 6   Environmental Conservation Officer James Davey 

 7   and Lieutenant Liza-J Bobseine were investigating 

 8   a trespassing complaint and reports of illegal 

 9   hunting with shots fired.

10                During the course of their 

11   investigation, the two officers came upon fresh 

12   tire tracks in a field in the Town of Gallatin in 

13   Columbia County.  While walking through the field 

14   under darkness, heavy fog and rain, Officers 

15   Davey and Bobseine heard voices and decided to 

16   approach the hunters.  

17                Being a DEC officer offers a unique 

18   challenge because in many cases such as this one, 

19   the officers know that the person they are 

20   approaching is likely armed and often a skilled 

21   marksman -- and oftentimes it's in a very remote 

22   area.

23                As the officers approached the 

24   illegal hunters, a shot was fired from a .30-30 

25   rifle.  The bullet hit Officer Davey, resulting 


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 1   in significant damage to his pelvis and 

 2   associated blood vessels.  Lieutenant Bobseine, 

 3   acting quickly, was able to apply a compress to 

 4   the significant wound.  She maintained pressure 

 5   on the injury for more than one hour and called 

 6   for medical support.

 7                Think about that.  Pressure for more 

 8   than one hour.  That's almost impossible to do.  

 9   But she rose to the occasion, and she did it.

10                While attending to Officer Davey, 

11   Lieutenant Bobseine was also able to keep the 

12   suspect under control a half-mile into the field.  

13   Lieutenant Bobseine's swift response thankfully 

14   prevented significant loss of blood that could 

15   have otherwise cost Officer Davey his life.

16                Her actions were instrumental in the 

17   apprehension of the shooter, Alan Blanchard, and 

18   another suspect.  Blanchard would later be 

19   charged with second-degree assault after claiming 

20   he mistook the officers for a deer.

21                Officer Davey underwent extensive 

22   surgery at Mid-Hudson Hospital to repair damage 

23   and was placed in the hospital's intensive care 

24   unit in stable condition.  

25                Following the incident, DEC 


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 1   Commissioner Seggos stated:  "It's clear that if 

 2   it were not for her actions, Officer Davey would 

 3   not have survived.  I commend the two officers 

 4   for their courage in the line of duty and thank 

 5   them for their dedicated service."

 6                I just want to tell you a little bit 

 7   about Lieutenant Bobseine.  She's a 10-year 

 8   veteran of the EnCon Police, a native of 

 9   Cattaraugus County, the 57th Senate District, and 

10   comes from a long line of public servants.  Her 

11   father and grandfather were both State 

12   Environmental Conservation officers, and her 

13   brother Ike is currently serving as an EnCon 

14   officer.

15                Remarkably, Lieutenant Bobseine is 

16   also no stranger to lifesaving actions.  In 2011, 

17   while stationed on Long Island, Lieutenant 

18   Bobseine was credited with saving the life of a 

19   66-year-old woman who was sitting in her car in a 

20   parking lot and had stopped breathing.  For her 

21   heroism, she was honored as Officer of the Year 

22   by the New York State Rifle and Pistol 

23   Association.  

24                And prior to her service as an EnCon 

25   officer, Lieutenant Bobseine was a forester with 


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 1   the DEC's Division of Land and Forests.  

 2                She holds a master's degree in 

 3   forestry from the SUNY Environmental Science and 

 4   Forestry School and was commissioned as a 

 5   lieutenant in 2013.

 6                Also, for EnCon Officer Davey, he's 

 7   a 12-year veteran of the force, graduated from 

 8   DEC Basic Police Academy in 2005.  He spent many 

 9   years on the Marine Enforcement Unit in New York 

10   City, where he gained a reputation as an 

11   excellent officer.  

12                EnCon Officer Davey transferred to 

13   Westchester and Putnam Counties in 2008, where he 

14   expanded his role in public outreach and 

15   education, becoming very familiar with local 

16   sporting groups and often participating in their 

17   events.  

18                After relocating to Columbia County, 

19   Officer Davey again enhanced his role in public 

20   outreach and education, gaining recognition for 

21   his assistance at the annual Columbia County 

22   Veterans Pheasant Hunt, which is affiliated with 

23   the Wounded Warriors Project.  

24                He currently is assigned to patrol 

25   Columbia County, acts as a Division of Criminal 


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 1   Justice Services certified police instructor, and 

 2   recently became a certified firearms instructor 

 3   for the DEC.

 4                As you can see, Mr. President and my 

 5   colleagues, these two individuals really 

 6   exemplify the definition of heroism.  They are 

 7   deserving of our utmost thanks and praise, and I 

 8   am proud to have sponsored, along with Senator 

 9   Marchione, Liberty Medal resolutions honoring 

10   both courageous officers.

11                I thank them for their service to 

12   our great state.  And at this point I know that 

13   Senator Marchione also would like to speak, 

14   because these two officers currently reside in 

15   her district in Columbia County.

16                So thank you, Mr. President.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Thank 

18   you, Senator Young.

19                Senator Marchione.

20                SENATOR MARCHIONE:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.  It's my honor to stand and speak 

22   on this resolution honoring Officer Davey and 

23   Lieutenant Bobseine.

24                You know, I talked earlier with them 

25   and I talked about the idea that when you come 


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 1   upon a hunter or you come upon someone in the 

 2   woods that's carrying a firearm, you don't 

 3   automatically become concerned about it because 

 4   that's what you come upon when you do the brave 

 5   work that they do.

 6                But in this instance, things went 

 7   very bad and they went very bad quickly.  And the 

 8   dedication and the expertise and the skills that 

 9   were used to save Officer Davey's life, I just am 

10   in awe at the great job that Lieutenant Bobseine 

11   did.  

12                And I just want to say thank you to 

13   her, thank you to the Environmental Conservation 

14   officers who risk their lives every day out there 

15   in the woods for us.

16                I want to also say thank you to the 

17   commissioner for his care and concern for his 

18   department -- not just his environmental 

19   conservation officers, but all of his department 

20   and all of the good work that they do for us.

21                It really is an honor to stand up 

22   and to say thank you.  You certainly both 

23   exemplify a proud tradition of EnCon officers.  

24   And it's a privilege to have this opportunity to 

25   recognize and commend the bravery, the skill, and 


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 1   the dedication of both of my constituents, as 

 2   both of these individuals live within my district 

 3   and the incident occurred within the 43rd Senate 

 4   District.

 5                Thank you, a very heartfelt thank 

 6   you for what you do for us.

 7                Thank you, Mr. President.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Thank 

 9   you, Senator Marchione.

10                Before we recognize our community 

11   heroes, the Secretary will read previously 

12   adopted Resolution Number 2398, by Senator Young, 

13   title only.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

15   Resolution Number 2398, by Senator Young, 

16   commending Officer James Davey upon the occasion 

17   of his designation as recipient of a Liberty 

18   Medal, the highest honor bestowed upon an 

19   individual by the New York State Senate.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   To 

21   Lieutenant Bobseine and Officer Davey, the 

22   commissioner, as well as your families and the 

23   DEC family, we congratulate you, we thank you for 

24   being selfless public servants, and we welcome 

25   you to the New York State Senate chamber.  We 


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 1   extend all of the courtesies and the privileges 

 2   of this great house to you and to your families.  

 3                Ladies and gentlemen, please rise.

 4                (Standing ovation.)

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 6   DeFrancisco.

 7                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Could you 

 8   recognize Senator Flanagan for an important 

 9   introduction.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

11   Flanagan.

12                SENATOR FLANAGAN:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.  

14                I'm elated to stand even for a brief 

15   couple of moments to talk about a group that is 

16   joining us physically in this part of the 

17   chamber, our Japanese delegation.  

18                I had a fantastic meeting this 

19   morning with the entire contingent of folks who 

20   are here.  And I hope -- you know, you're going 

21   to have to forgive me, given the fact that my 

22   last name is Flanagan, I may not get it 

23   absolutely correctly, but there's a whole 

24   delegation.  I want to welcome Ambassador 

25   Takahashi and his entire group for being here in 


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 1   Albany today.

 2                So when we think about the work that 

 3   we do, I had about a half an hour to 45 minutes 

 4   with the delegation to listen to who they are, 

 5   what they do, where they live -- Kawasaki, 

 6   Buffalo, all kinds of different things all across 

 7   the great State of New York.

 8                They have a contingent -- and I 

 9   think I have my numbers correctly, or close to 

10   it -- 33,000 jobs, $11 billion in investment in 

11   the State of New York.  They are amiable, they 

12   are professional, they care very deeply about the 

13   great State of New York.  

14                And I believe that we should strive 

15   to do everything we can to create an economic 

16   development environment that inures to their 

17   benefit, which works for the great people of the 

18   State of New York.  And I know they have Canon, 

19   which happens to be down in the Senator 

20   Marcellino and Senator Flanagan area out on 

21   Long Island.  

22                But Ambassador, to you and your 

23   delegation, welcome.  I hope you had a terrific 

24   day here today.  And we want to continue to 

25   foster that relationship with you, and we only 


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 1   wish you the best.  So we want to extend the 

 2   courtesies of the chamber to you and your 

 3   delegation.

 4                Thank you.

 5                (Standing ovation.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:    

 7   Ambassador, to you and your delegation, we 

 8   welcome you to the New York State Senate.  And on 

 9   behalf of Majority Leader Flanagan, we extend all 

10   the privileges and courtesies of the house.

11                AMBASSADOR TAKAHASHI:  Thank you 

12   very much.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   You're 

14   welcome.

15                Senator DeFrancisco.

16                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, can you 

17   recognize Senator Flanagan again, while taking up 

18   previously adopted Resolution 2386.  Read it in 

19   its entirety, please.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

21   Secretary will read.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

23   Resolution Number 2386, by Senator Flanagan, 

24   commending Barbara Jones upon the occasion of her 

25   appointment as Irish Ambassador to Mexico.  


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 1                "WHEREAS, It is the custom of this 

 2   Legislative Body to recognize and pay tribute to 

 3   certain individuals of high standard and 

 4   professionalism whose singular objective is given 

 5   to serving the advancement of democracy in the 

 6   world; and 

 7                "WHEREAS, Attendant to such concern,  

 8   and in full accord with its long-standing 

 9   traditions, this Legislative Body is justly proud  

10   to commend Barbara Jones upon the occasion of her 

11   appointment as Irish Ambassador to Mexico; and 

12                "WHEREAS, Recently, the United 

13   States government has approved the appointment of 

14   several overseas ambassadors; Barbara Jones, the 

15   current Consul General in New York, will assume 

16   the role of Irish Ambassador to Mexico, Colombia, 

17   Costa Rica, Cuba, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Peru 

18   and Venezuela; and 

19                "WHEREAS, Barbara Jones was born in 

20   County Wexford, Ireland; she graduated with 

21   degrees in both French and history from the 

22   University College in Dublin, Ireland; she also 

23   holds her post-graduate qualifications in 

24   education from University College, and computer 

25   Science from the National Institute of High 


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 1   Education from the University of Limerick; and 

 2                "WHEREAS, In September of 1983, 

 3   Barbara Jones began her distinguished career at 

 4   the Department of Foreign Affairs, working 

 5   primarily on Anglo-Irish and European Union 

 6   issues; and 

 7                "WHEREAS, From 1994-1997, Barbara 

 8   Jones served as Head of the Humanitarian Aid  

 9   policy; in this capacity, she traveled 

10   extensively in Africa; her overseas postings 

11   included assignments at the Consulate General of 

12   Ireland in San Francisco from 1986-1990, the 

13   Embassy at Luxembourg from 1991-1993, and as 

14   Deputy Head of Mission at the Embassy of Ireland 

15   in London, where she managed political relations 

16   and the Northern Ireland peace process; and 

17                "WHEREAS, In September of 2012, 

18   Barbara Jones was appointed Joint Secretary at 

19   the British-Irish Intergovernmental Secretariat 

20   in Belfast, Ireland; two years later, she was 

21   named the Consul General of Ireland in New York; 

22   and 

23                "WHEREAS, Barbara Jones also served 

24   in two additional government departments in 

25   Dublin from 1997-2002; from 1999-2002, she served 


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 1   as both speechwriter and special advisor in the 

 2   Department of the Taoiseach; prior to holding 

 3   those two positions, she was seconded to the 

 4   Trade Section of the Department of Enterprise, 

 5   Trade and Employment, where she was instrumental 

 6   in writing and developing a new long-term 

 7   strategy for promoting Irish trade with both 

 8   China and Asia; and 

 9                "WHEREAS, With her throughout have 

10   been her husband, Oliver O'Connor, and their 

11   three children, Kilian, Tadhg, and Maeve, all of 

12   whom have shown her love and support and rejoice 

13   in her many achievements; and 

14                "WHEREAS, It is the sense of this 

15   Legislative Body that those who enhance the 

16   quality of life in their community and have shown 

17   a long and sustained commitment to the  

18   maintenance of high standards in their 

19   profession, certainly have earned the recognition 

20   and applause of all the citizens of this great 

21   Empire State; now, therefore, be it 

22                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

23   Body pause in its deliberations to commend 

24   Barbara Jones upon the occasion of her 

25   appointment as Irish Ambassador to Mexico, and to 


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 1   wish her great success in her new position; and 

 2   be it further 

 3                "RESOLVED, That a copy of this  

 4   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 

 5   Barbara Jones."

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 7   Flanagan on the resolution.

 8                SENATOR FLANAGAN:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                This is, I think, emblematic of the 

11   fact that we are in the quintessential melting 

12   pot here in the great State of New York.  We have 

13   our delegation, our Japanese delegation, our 

14   ambassador from Ireland.  And I want to extend 

15   the courtesies of the house to a gentleman who is 

16   a gentleman in every sense of the word, a true 

17   leader in the New York State Assembly, and that's 

18   Assemblyman Michael Cusick from Staten Island.  

19                Mike, it's nice to see you here.

20                (Applause.)

21                SENATOR FLANAGAN:   Also too, 

22   Mr. President, if I may, I had a lovely 

23   conversation with Ambassador Jones.  And the 

24   diversity of her portfolio is -- it's really 

25   astounding.  And she has been all over the world.  


                                                               3661

 1                I had a chance to meet with her in 

 2   New York City and was complimenting her on how 

 3   they run their office.  It's simple, it's clean, 

 4   it's effective, everyone's nice, and they're 

 5   there to basically try and help people.  And I 

 6   think she's done a superb job as an ambassador 

 7   for Ireland.

 8                Now, I'm disheartened to say that 

 9   she accepted an ambassadorship to Mexico based on 

10   the fact that we refused to make St. Patrick's 

11   Day a state holiday.  

12                (Laughter.)

13                SENATOR FLANAGAN:   I don't know why 

14   she feels that way, but nonetheless she has.  

15                But her extensive background leads 

16   me to believe that the people of Mexico and the 

17   surrounding countries are going to be very well 

18   served by her new position, her new tenure.  And 

19   I'm grateful to have the opportunity to just 

20   speak on a resolution that we did pass 

21   previously.  

22                Ambassador, we wish you only the 

23   best.  We thank you for the work and services 

24   that you provided here in the State of New York.  

25   And the people of the other countries you're 


                                                               3662

 1   going to serve, they should be lucky to have you 

 2   as the steward on behalf of Ireland in their 

 3   countries.

 4                Mr. President, if you would again 

 5   extended the courtesies of the chamber to 

 6   Ambassador Jones.

 7                Thank you.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Thank 

 9   you, Senator Flanagan.

10                Senator Kennedy.

11                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.

13                I too stand to honor this 

14   extraordinary woman in our midst.  Welcome back 

15   to the Senate chamber, Ambassador.  What an honor 

16   it is for us to be in your presence.

17                Thank you for all that you've done 

18   for our great state and the relationship that has 

19   been built between New York and Ireland as well 

20   as the United States and Ireland under your 

21   leadership.

22                I have had the opportunity over the 

23   course of the last couple of years to get to know 

24   you personally.  I have worked with you here in 

25   Albany, down in New York City, out in Buffalo, 


                                                               3663

 1   and even over in Ireland.  And I can attest to 

 2   the leadership that you have brought to the great 

 3   country of Ireland, now more unified than ever 

 4   before.  

 5                And now as you bring your esteemed 

 6   role as the ambassador to other parts of the 

 7   world, I can tell you that it's with the utmost 

 8   regard that the people of this great state will 

 9   honor you and your reputation, your legacy, and 

10   your continued work on behalf of a grateful state 

11   and nation here.  

12                And we know that the best is yet to 

13   come in the relationship between Ireland and 

14   Mexico under your leadership, and we look forward 

15   to your continued success and, quite frankly, our 

16   continued work together.  Because once you come 

17   here to New York and you befriend so many 

18   different people and have demonstrated a keen 

19   ability to bring sides together that 

20   unfortunately in the past have never worked 

21   together, it is part of who you are and 

22   unquestionably will continue to make this world a 

23   better place.

24                So thank you for everything you've 

25   done for all of us, and welcome back again.  And 


                                                               3664

 1   congratulations on your next role.

 2                Thank you.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   

 4   Assemblyman Cusick, welcome again.

 5                Ambassador, congratulations on your 

 6   appointment.  On behalf of the members of this 

 7   great house, we welcome you to the New York State 

 8   Senate chamber, and we extend all of the 

 9   privileges and the courtesies of this great 

10   house.

11                Ladies and gentlemen, please 

12   recognize the ambassador.

13                (Standing ovation.)

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

15   DeFrancisco.

16                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Can we now 

17   take up privileged Resolution 2785, by Senator 

18   Carlucci, title only, and call on Senator 

19   Carlucci, please.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

21   Secretary will read.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

23   Resolution Number 2785, by Senator Carlucci, 

24   memorializing Governor Andrew M. Cuomo to 

25   proclaim August 2017 as Indian American Heritage 


                                                               3665

 1   Month in the State of New York.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 3   Carlucci.

 4                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.  

 6                It's an absolute honor and a 

 7   privilege to have this resolution before the 

 8   house today to proclaim August, this August, as 

 9   Indian American Heritage month.

10                This August is particularly special 

11   because it will be celebrating India's 

12   independence, its 70th anniversary, on 

13   August 15th of this year.  

14                And we're so privileged to have with 

15   us in the gallery some members of Rockland County 

16   and other areas as well that are with us today.  

17   We have a great organization in Rockland County.  

18   We've got such a vibrant and growing 

19   Indian-American community.  And we're honored to 

20   have with us a good friend of mine and a partner 

21   in government, Aney Paul.  And Aney is actually 

22   the first --

23                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

24   Carlucci, excuse me one second, please.  

25                Can I have some order in the house, 


                                                               3666

 1   please.

 2                Senator Carlucci.

 3                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.

 5                And Aney Paul is the first female 

 6   Indian-American elected to a county legislature 

 7   in the State of New York.  And she's a real honor 

 8   and a privilege to work with.  We've worked 

 9   together on many initiatives.

10                But we're just honored to have this 

11   resolution on the floor today.  We celebrate it 

12   each year in Rockland County with a parade, and 

13   that's going to be August 19th this year.  And we 

14   invite anybody that would like to join us, that 

15   parade grows and grows every year.  So we're 

16   looking to have an even bigger turnout this year.

17                But some interesting facts.  

18   Actually, in New York State, we're the 

19   second-largest population of Indian-Americans in 

20   the United States.  There's over 3 million 

21   Indians living in the United States, with over 

22   300,000 living here.  

23                India -- we've taken a lot of cues 

24   from -- is the world's largest democracy.  In 

25   fact, in their last parliamentarian elections, 


                                                               3667

 1   551 million people voted.  So we think the 

 2   politics and government could be complex here in 

 3   Albany; I can't imagine what it's like in India 

 4   with all those different segments going on.

 5                But again, Mr. President, it's just 

 6   an honor and a privilege to have my friends with 

 7   us here today to see us in action here in the 

 8   State Senate.  We invite all of you to join us as 

 9   we march down the streets in Rockland County to 

10   proclaim the 70th anniversary of India's 

11   independence this August.  And we are excited to 

12   proclaim August as Indian American Heritage Month 

13   in the State of New York.

14                Thank you, Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

16   Carlucci, thank you.

17                All in favor of adopting privileged 

18   Resolution Number 2785, by Senator Carlucci, 

19   signify by saying aye.

20                (Response of "Aye.")

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Opposed, 

22   nay.

23                (No response.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

25   resolution is adopted.


                                                               3668

 1                Senator DeFrancisco.

 2                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:    

 3   Mr. President, can we now take up the 

 4   noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 6   Secretary will read.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 74, 

 8   by Senator Carlucci, Print Senate Print 711, an 

 9   act to amend the Penal Law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

11   last section.

12                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

14   is laid aside.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   100, by Senator Felder, Senate Print 1110, an act 

17   to amend the Education Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

19   last section.  

20                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

22   is laid aside.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   278, substituted earlier by Member of the 

25   Assembly Magee, Assembly Print 4972A, an act to 


                                                               3669

 1   amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

 2                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

 4   bill aside.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   339, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 4332, an 

 7   act authorizing.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   There is 

 9   a home-rule message at the desk.

10                The Secretary will read the last 

11   section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

13   act shall take effect immediately.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

15   roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

18   the results.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   378, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 2980, an 

24   act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

25                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.


                                                               3670

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 2   is laid aside.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   418, by Senator Little, Senate Print 5141, an act 

 5   to amend the Private Housing Finance Law.

 6                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 8   is laid aside.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   491, by Senator Alcantara, Senate Print 1342A, an 

11   act to amend the Penal Law.

12                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

14   is laid aside.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   515, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 3709, 

17   an act to amend the Elder Law.

18                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

20   is laid aside.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   531, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 2420B, an 

23   act to amend the General Municipal Law.

24                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 


                                                               3671

 1   is laid aside.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   566, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 5130, an act 

 4   to amend the Retirement and Social Security Law.

 5                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 7   is laid aside.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   579, by Senator Croci, Senate Print 5305A, an act 

10   authorizing.

11                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

12                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   For the day.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   That bill 

14   is laid aside for the day.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   585, by Senator Savino, Senate Print 5429A, an 

17   act to authorize.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Results.


                                                               3672

 1                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2   Calendar 585, those recorded in the negative are 

 3   Senators Akshar, Bonacic, O'Mara and Ranzenhofer.  

 4                Ayes, 59.  Nays, 4.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   609, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 1612, an act 

 9   to amend the Civil Service Law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

11   last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13   act shall take effect immediately.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

15   roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.  

18   Senator DeFrancisco recorded in the negative.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

20   is passed.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   715, substituted earlier by Member of the 

23   Assembly Gottfried, Assembly Print 5175A, an act 

24   to amend the Social Services Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 


                                                               3673

 1   last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

 8   the results.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   716, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 2271, an act 

14   to amend the Public Health Law.

15                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

17   bill aside.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   746, by Senator Avella, Senate Print 1971, an act 

20   to amend the Executive Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect on the first of January.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 


                                                               3674

 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

 4   the results.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   747, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 2243, an act 

10   to amend the Executive Law.

11                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

13   is laid aside.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   778, by Senator Klein, Senate Print 5664B, an act 

16   to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

17                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

19   is laid aside.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   779, by Senator Murphy, Senate Print 4395, an act 

22   to amend the Administrative Code of the City of 

23   New York.

24                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 


                                                               3675

 1   is laid aside.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   791, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 5007, 

 4   an act in relation to authorizing.

 5                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 7   is laid aside.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   793, by Senator Young, Senate Print 5244A, an act 

10   to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

12   last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14   act shall take effect immediately.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

16   roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

19   the results.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

22   is passed.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   800, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 5558, an 

25   act authorizing.


                                                               3676

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   There is 

 2   a home-rule message at the desk.

 3                The Secretary will read the last 

 4   section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

11   the results.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   803, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 5763, 

17   an act to amend the General Municipal Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   There is 

19   a home-rule message at the desk.

20                The Secretary will read the last 

21   section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23   act shall take effect immediately.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

25   roll.


                                                               3677

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

 3   the results.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   808, by Senator Alcantara, Senate Print 5881B, an 

 9   act to amend the Administrative Code of the City 

10   of New York.

11                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

13   is laid aside.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   817, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 5401, an act 

16   to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

17                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

19   is laid aside.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   830, substituted earlier by Member of the 

22   Assembly Crespo, Assembly Print 5151B, an act to 

23   amend the Education Law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

25   last section.


                                                               3678

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

 7   the results.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

10   is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   851, by Senator Phillips, Senate Print 5843A, an 

13   act to amend the Highway Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

22   the results.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

25   is passed.


                                                               3679

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   866, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 3177, an 

 3   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

 4                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

 6   bill aside.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   895, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 3898A, an 

 9   act to amend the Racing, Pari-Mutuel Wagering and 

10   Breeding Law.

11                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

13   bill aside.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   931, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 728, an act 

16   to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

17                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

19   bill aside.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   939, by Senator Marchione, Senate Print 5354, an 

22   act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

23                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Lay the bill 

24   aside for the day, please.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 


                                                               3680

 1   will be laid aside for the day.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   951, by Senator Ortt, Senate Print 5681, an act 

 4   to require.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

13   the results.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   954, by Senator Young, Senate Print 856, an act 

19   to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

20                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

22   bill aside.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   1008, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 4062, an act 

25   to amend the Tax Law.


                                                               3681

 1                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

 3   bill aside.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   1030, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 2730, an 

 6   act to amend the Penal Law.

 7                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

 9   bill aside.

10                Calendar Number 1038 was amended 

11   today, therefore it is high.  It will be laid 

12   aside for the day.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1045, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 2634, an act 

15   to amend the Tax Law.

16                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

18   bill aside.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1046, by Senator Little, Senate Print 2645A, an 

21   act to amend the Tax Law.

22                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

24   bill aside.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               3682

 1   1061, substituted earlier by Member of the 

 2   Assembly Lavine, Assembly Print 5950A, an act to 

 3   amend the Tax Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

12   the results.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

15   is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   1072, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 5752, an act 

18   to require.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

20   last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

24   roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               3683

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

 2   the results.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1080, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 4654, an 

 8   act to amend the Insurance Law.

 9                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

11   bill aside.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1104, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 1404, an 

14   act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

23   the results.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.  

25   Senator Krueger recorded in the negative.


                                                               3684

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1125, by Senator Young, Senate Print 547, an act 

 5   to amend the Social Services Law.

 6                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

 8   bill aside.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   1264, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 3746A, an 

11   act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15   act shall take effect immediately.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

20   the results.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   1265, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 3906, an 


                                                               3685

 1   act to amend the Executive Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

10   the results.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   1273, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 4509A, an 

16   act to amend the Tax Law.

17                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

19   bill aside.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1275, by Senator Murphy, Senate Print 4735A, an 

22   act to amend the Executive Law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               3686

 1   act shall take effect immediately.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

 6   the results.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   1285, by Senator Valesky, Senate Print 5903, an 

12   act to amend the State Finance Law.

13                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

15   bill aside.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   1288, by Senator Ranzenhofer, Senate Print 2894, 

18   an act to amend the Not-For-Profit Corporation 

19   Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

21   last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23   act shall take effect immediately.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

25   roll.


                                                               3687

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

 3   the results.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   1290, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 3506, 

 9   an act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

10                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

12   bill aside.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1291, by Senator Lanza, Senate Print 3543A, an 

15   act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

17   last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

21   roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

24   Krueger to explain her vote.

25                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you, 


                                                               3688

 1   Mr. President.  To explain my vote no.

 2                So this would be a bill that would 

 3   grant a 10 percent discount on New York City 

 4   water bills to senior citizens and veterans.  

 5   Well, we always like to do the right thing by 

 6   senior citizens and veterans.  The catch is the 

 7   way the bill is written, since most people in 

 8   New York City live in multi-dwelling units, 

 9   apartment buildings, not single-family homes or 

10   even two-family homes, it would be very confusing 

11   how you'd define who the senior or the veteran is 

12   to get the 10 percent deduction within the larger 

13   water bill for a building that might have five 

14   units or might have 500 units.  

15                It also has no means testing at all.  

16   So for example, while my constituents might be 

17   thrilled, because I probably have more 

18   billionaires and millionaires than any other 

19   district in the City of New York or the State of 

20   New York, I'm not sure that going home and 

21   explaining we're voting for a bill to give 

22   billionaires a 10 percent reduction because 

23   they're over a certain age, but somebody else's 

24   water bills are going to have to go up because we 

25   gave billionaires of a certain age a 10 percent 


                                                               3689

 1   reduction -- I just don't, with all due respect, 

 2   think it's good public policy to draw a line 

 3   simply based on age, not need, when deciding 

 4   certain people pay less.

 5                I really don't understand how we 

 6   would expect the City of New York to know the age 

 7   of every individual who lives within a building, 

 8   because the water bill would be for just the 

 9   building itself, in most cases, statistically.

10                And it would of course leave a hole 

11   in the amount of money the City of New York 

12   actually had available to meet its clean water 

13   costs, without any other explanation other than 

14   my assumption that we'd have to raise other 

15   people's water bills to pay for this deduction.

16                So everybody likes to reduce 

17   everybody's taxes.  I'm sure everybody 

18   particularly likes to reduce senior citizens' and 

19   veterans' taxes.  But I have to say I don't 

20   really think this is the right approach to this 

21   issue, so I'll be voting no, Mr. President.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

23   Krueger to be recorded in the negative.

24                Announce the result.

25                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               3690

 1   Calendar 1291, those recorded in the negative are 

 2   Senators Benjamin, Krueger and Montgomery.

 3                Ayes, 60.  Nays, 3.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

 5   is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1300, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 421, an act 

 8   to amend the Penal Law.

 9                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

11   bill aside.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1302, by Senator Squadron, Senate Print 499, an 

14   act to amend the Penal Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

18   act shall take effect on the first of November.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

23   the results.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 


                                                               3691

 1   is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1309, by Senator Helming, Senate Print 2572, an 

 4   act to amend the Penal Law.

 5                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

 7   bill aside.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   1347, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 2419, an 

10   act to amend the Banking Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

12   last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14   act shall take effect on the 120th day.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

16   roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

19   the results.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

22   is passed.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   1383, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 1027, an 

25   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.


                                                               3692

 1                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

 3   bill aside.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   1390, by Senator Akshar, Senate Print 1248, an 

 6   act to amend the Judiciary Law.

 7                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

 9   bill aside.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   1422, by Senator Helming, Senate Print 2505, an 

12   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

21   the results.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               3693

 1   1424, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 2512, an 

 2   act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 3                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

 5   bill aside.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   1427, by Senator Helming, Senate Print 2566, an 

 8   act to amend the Penal Law.

 9                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay the bill 

10   aside.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

12   bill aside.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   1481, by Senator Stavisky, Senate Print 5213, an 

15   act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

16                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Please lay 

17   the bill aside.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

19   is laid aside.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1482, by Senator Stavisky, Senate Print 5220, an 

22   act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

23                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Lay the bill 

24   aside.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 


                                                               3694

 1   is laid aside.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1506, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 6567, an 

 4   act to amend the Education Law.

 5                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay that bill 

 6   aside.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

 8   bill aside.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   1507, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 6568, an 

11   act to amend the Education Law.

12                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

14   bill aside.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1508, by Senator Flanagan, Senate Print 6569, an 

17   act to amend the Education Law.

18                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

20   bill aside.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   1518, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 6561, an 

23   act in relation to.

24                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 


                                                               3695

 1   is laid aside.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1523, substituted earlier by Member of the 

 4   Assembly Weprin, Assembly Print 3053, an act to 

 5   amend the Executive Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Lay it aside.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Lay the 

10   bill aside.

11                Senator DeFrancisco, that completes 

12   the noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

13                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Could we go 

14   back to motions and resolutions, please.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Motions 

16   and resolutions.

17                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Can we take 

18   up previously adopted Resolution 2475, by Senator 

19   Serino, read the title only, and call on Senator 

20   Serino to speak.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

22   Secretary will read the title only.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

24   Resolution 2475, by Senator Serino, memorializing 

25   Governor Andrew M. Cuomo to proclaim June 15, 


                                                               3696

 1   2017, as Elder Abuse Awareness Day in the State 

 2   of New York.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 4   Serino.

 5                SENATOR SERINO:   Thank you, 

 6   Mr. President.  

 7                I rise today as chair of the 

 8   Senate's Aging Committee in anticipation of World 

 9   Elder Abuse Awareness Day.  

10                New York's seniors were born and 

11   raised in a generation defined by industrious 

12   independence, a generation where self-sufficiency 

13   was valued above all else.  Many of them 

14   capitalized on that drive by spending their lives 

15   building their nest eggs, making them targets for 

16   abuse, abuse that too often happens at the hands 

17   of the people our seniors know and trust the 

18   most.  

19                The result?  For every known case of 

20   elder abuse, recent reports estimate that at 

21   least 20 cases actually go unreported.  And 

22   financial abuse costs New York's seniors 

23   $1.5 billion each year.  These statistics make it 

24   painfully clear that we can and must do better.  

25                This week, organizations around the 


                                                               3697

 1   world will pause on Thursday, June 15th, in 

 2   recognition of World Elder Abuse Awareness Day, 

 3   to shine light on this critical issue.  

 4                I wanted to speak on this resolution 

 5   ahead of the day in hopes it would give my 

 6   colleagues here today some time to get involved.  

 7   I thank you for recognizing this initiative, and 

 8   I hope when you return to your districts on 

 9   Thursday that you will spread the word:  There is 

10   no excuse for elder abuse.  

11                Thank you, Mr. President.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Thank 

13   you, Senator Serino.

14                Senator DeFrancisco.

15                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Can we now 

16   take up previously adopted Resolution 2436, read 

17   the title only, and call on Senator Hoylman.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

19   Secretary will read the title only.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

21   Resolution Number 2436, by Senator Hoylman, 

22   memorializing Governor Andrew M. Cuomo to 

23   proclaim May 12, 2017, as Myalgic 

24   Encephalomyelitis Awareness Day in the State of 

25   New York.


                                                               3698

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 2   Hoylman.

 3                SENATOR HOYLMAN:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President, for allowing me to speak on this 

 5   resolution memorializing the Governor to proclaim 

 6   May 12th as Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, better 

 7   known and better pronounced as ME -- Awareness 

 8   Day in New York, which is in conjunction with 

 9   National ME Awareness Month in May.  

10                I first learned about ME when a 

11   friend and former constituent, Terri Wilder, 

12   who's here in the gallery with us, reached out to 

13   me and we discussed the condition that has been 

14   plaguing her for decades.  Terri was diagnosed 

15   with ME in March of 2016, but she thinks she may 

16   have had it since she was a teenager or even 

17   younger.

18                ME is incredibly widespread and 

19   incredibly misunderstood.  A lot of us have heard 

20   of ME by its prior name, which is chronic fatigue 

21   syndrome, and it's a chronic, complex, systemic 

22   neuroimmune condition that can profoundly limit 

23   health and productivity of affected patients.  

24   It's much more than just feeling tired.  It can 

25   include significant neurological and cognitive 


                                                               3699

 1   impairment and unrelenting and sometimes 

 2   debilitating pain.

 3                Symptoms can get worse even from 

 4   just minimal exertion, and it severely impacts 

 5   people's lives.  Fifty-four to 69 percent of 

 6   folks with ME are unemployed.  At least 

 7   25 percent of them are bedridden or housebound 

 8   during their lifetime.  And for moderate to 

 9   severe patients, living with ME has been compared 

10   with Stage 4 cancer, advanced-stage AIDS, or 

11   congestive heart failure.  Imagine living with 

12   that all of your life.  

13                What's more troublesome is that 

14   there are no FDA-approved treatments for ME.  

15   That's even with as many as 2.5 million Americans 

16   suffering from it, including 62,000 to 152,000 

17   New Yorkers.

18                But sadly -- and this is another 

19   distressing part of this condition -- many 

20   individuals with ME are told by families and 

21   friends or even doctors that their severe 

22   conditions are imagined, leaving so many of them 

23   misunderstood.  And it's not unlike the stigma 

24   that surrounds autism, or multiple sclerosis 

25   decades ago, when these were derided as disorders 


                                                               3700

 1   of nerves and insecurity.  

 2                There is a dearth of healthcare and 

 3   social services for people with ME, and very few 

 4   medical providers here in the state trained to 

 5   provide care, plus little or no recognition of 

 6   the seriousness of this public health crisis.

 7                Well, that's what we're trying to 

 8   change today with this resolution.  I was happy 

 9   to bring this resolution forward even while the 

10   National Institutes of Health is facing budget 

11   cuts of up to $5.8 billion from the Trump 

12   administration.  We have to make the case here in 

13   New York that we need to fund rare and 

14   difficult-to-diagnose conditions like ME.  

15                Again, Terri, thank you so much.  

16   Terri is a long-time AIDS activist and has worked 

17   with groups like ACT-UP.  And professionally, 

18   she's at the Mount Sinai Hospital, where she 

19   trains medical professionals in issues 

20   surrounding HIV-positive and transgender patient 

21   care.  So she knows how to activate a group and 

22   get them energized for a cause, and that's what 

23   she's doing here today with ME.  

24                And I, finally, wanted to thank our 

25   Health Commissioner, Dr. Zucker, for reaching out 


                                                               3701

 1   to me personally and commending the State Senate 

 2   for considering this important resolution in 

 3   bringing awareness to the cause of ME.

 4                Thank you, Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Thank 

 6   you, Senator Hoylman.

 7                Senator DeFrancisco.

 8                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, there 

 9   will be an immediate meeting of the Rules 

10   Committee in Room 332.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   There is 

12   an immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in 

13   Room 332.  

14                The Senate will stand at ease.

15                (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

16   at 4:19 p.m.)

17                (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

18   4:54 p.m.) 

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

20   Senate will come to order.

21                Senator DeFrancisco.  

22                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Is there a 

23   Rules Committee report at the desk, please?  

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Yes, 

25   there is.


                                                               3702

 1                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Will you 

 2   please have it read.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 4   Secretary will read.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Flanagan, 

 6   from the Committee on Rules, reports the 

 7   following bills:  

 8                Senate Print 307A, by Senator 

 9   Murphy, an act to amend the Executive Law; 

10                Senate 381, by Senator Carlucci, an 

11   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law; 

12                Senate 385, by Senator Robach, an 

13   act to amend the Highway Law; 

14                Senate 794A, by Senator Alcantara, 

15   an act to amend the Education Law;

16                Senate 842B, by Senator Young, an 

17   act to amend the Executive Law; 

18                Senate 893, by Senator Amedore, an 

19   act to establish; 

20                Senate 1014, by Senator Robach, an 

21   act to amend the Correction Law; 

22                Senate 1186, by Senator Marcellino, 

23   an act to amend the Executive Law; 

24                Senate 1311, by Senator Marcellino, 

25   an act relating to legalizing, validating, 


                                                               3703

 1   ratifying and confirming; 

 2                Senate 1348, by Senator Funke, an 

 3   act to amend Chapter 57 of the Laws of 2012; 

 4                Senate 1470, by Senator Ritchie, an 

 5   act to direct;

 6                Senate 1650, by Senator Carlucci, an 

 7   act to amend the Parks, Recreation and Historic 

 8   Preservation Law;

 9                Senate 1910A, by Senator Ritchie, an 

10   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law; 

11                Senate 2137A, by Senator Serino, an 

12   act to amend the Social Services Law; 

13                Senate 2154A, by Senator Serino, an 

14   act to amend the Social Services Law; 

15                Senate 2155A, by Senator Serino, an 

16   act to amend the Elder Law; 

17                Senate 2173, by Senator Serino, an 

18   act to amend the Correction Law; 

19                Senate 2550, by Senator LaValle, an 

20   act to amend the Education Law; 

21                Senate 2554, by Senator LaValle, an 

22   act to amend the Education Law; 

23                Senate 3421, by Senator Parker, an 

24   act to amend the Social Services Law; 

25                Senate 3879, by Senator Ranzenhofer, 


                                                               3704

 1   an act to amend the Executive Law; 

 2                Senate 3880, by Senator Ranzenhofer, 

 3   an act to amend the Environmental Conservation 

 4   Law; 

 5                Senate 3931, by Senator O'Mara, an 

 6   act to amend the Transportation Law; 

 7                Senate 3981A, by Senator Savino, an 

 8   act to amend the Social Services Law; 

 9                Senate 4059, by Senator Lanza, an 

10   act to amend the Correction Law; 

11                Senate 4135A, by Senator Savino, an 

12   act to amend the Executive Law; 

13                Senate 4423B, by Senator 

14   DeFrancisco, an act to amend the Public Service 

15   Law; 

16                Senate 4833, by Senator Avella, an 

17   act to amend the Social Services Law; 

18                Senate 4909, by Senator Díaz, an act 

19   to amend the Executive Law; 

20                Senate 5059A, by Senator Valesky, an 

21   act to amend the Abandoned Property Law; 

22                Senate 5064A, by Senator 

23   Ranzenhofer, an act to amend the Environmental 

24   Conservation Law; 

25                Senate 5222, by Senator Stavisky, an 


                                                               3705

 1   act to amend the Real Property Tax Law; 

 2                Senate 5269, by the Senate Committee 

 3   on Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

 4                Senate 5270, by the Senate Committee 

 5   on Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

 6                Senate 5271, by the Senate Committee 

 7   on Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

 8                Senate 5359, by the Senate Committee 

 9   on Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

10                Senate 5415A, by Senator Serino, an 

11   act to amend the Elder Law;

12                Senate 5494A, by Senator Gallivan, 

13   an act to amend the Correction Law; 

14                Senate 5641A, by Senator Croci, an 

15   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law; 

16                Senate 5680, by Senator Ortt, an act 

17   to require; 

18                Senate 5826, by the Senate Committee 

19   on Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

20                Senate 5956, by the Senate Committee 

21   on Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

22                Senate 5957, by the Senate Committee 

23   on Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

24                Senate 5958, by the Senate Committee 

25   on Rules, an act to amend the Real Property Law; 


                                                               3706

 1                Senate 5959, by the Senate Committee 

 2   on Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

 3                Senate 5960, by the Senate Committee 

 4   on Rules, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

 5                Senate 6022, by Senator Serino, an 

 6   act to amend the Penal Law; 

 7                Senate 6081, by Senator Serino, an 

 8   act to amend Chapter 942 of the Laws of 1983; 

 9                Senate 6431A, by Senator Serino, an 

10   act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

11   Law;

12                Senate 6459, by Senator DeFrancisco, 

13   an act to expand; 

14                Senate 6462, by Senator 

15   Stewart-Cousins, an act to amend Chapter 118 of 

16   the Laws of 1969;

17                Senate 6470A, by Senator Marcellino, 

18   an act to amend the Navigation Law;

19                Senate 6514, by Senator Ritchie, an 

20   act to amend the Local Finance Law; 

21                Senate 6624, by Senator Seward, an 

22   act to amend the Insurance Law; 

23                Senate 6650, by Senator Serino, an 

24   act to amend the Banking Law; 

25                Senate 6651A, by Senator Flanagan, 


                                                               3707

 1   an act to amend the Public Authorities Law; 

 2                Senate 6659, by Senator Klein, an 

 3   act to amend the Tax Law; 

 4                Senate 6661, by Senator Hannon, an 

 5   act to amend the Public Health Law; 

 6                Senate 6662, by Senator Little, an 

 7   act to amend the Multiple Dwelling Law; 

 8                And Senate 6663, by Senator Ortt, an 

 9   act to amend the Insurance Law.

10                All bills reported direct to third 

11   reading.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

13   DeFrancisco.

14                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Move to 

15   accept the report of the Rules Committee.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   All in 

17   favor of accepting the report of the Rules 

18   Committee, signify by saying aye.

19                (Response of "Aye.")

20                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Opposed, 

21   nay.  

22                (No response.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

24   report is accepted.

25                Senator DeFrancisco.


                                                               3708

 1                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   One moment, 

 2   please.

 3                Can we call up the first bill on the 

 4   controversial calendar, please -- namely, 

 5   Calendar Number 74.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 7   Secretary will ring the bell.

 8                The Secretary will read.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 74, 

10   by Senator Carlucci, Senate Print 711, an act to 

11   amend the Penal Law.

12                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Can we remain 

13   at ease for a moment before the debate begins.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

15   Senate will stand at ease.

16                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Would you 

17   please lay that bill aside?  

18                We're trying to get some movement in 

19   the process, but that will not give us any.

20                (Laughter.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Calendar 

22   Number 74 will be laid aside.

23                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Lay it aside, 

24   and if we could go to Calendar 808.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 


                                                               3709

 1   Secretary will read.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   808, by Senator Alcantara, Senate Print 5881B, an 

 4   act to amend the Administrative Code of the City 

 5   of New York.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 7   Parker, why do you rise?

 8                SENATOR PARKER:   On the bill.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

10   Parker on the bill.

11                SENATOR PARKER:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.  Actually, Mr. President, could 

13   I -- will the sponsor yield for some questions?  

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

15   sponsor yield for a question?  

16                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

18   sponsor yields.

19                SENATOR PARKER:   Thank you.  

20   Through you, Mr. President, thank you, Senator 

21   Alcantara.

22                Will the sponsor please explain the 

23   bill?  

24                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Sure.  

25                The bill will require the City of 


                                                               3710

 1   New York retroactively to apply SCRIE and DRIE 

 2   benefits dating back to the original day of 

 3   eligibility for such benefits in the case where 

 4   the individual made a late application.

 5                The individual rent will be frozen 

 6   prospectively of an application at the rate that 

 7   the individual was paying at the original date of 

 8   eligibility for the SCRIE/DRIE benefits.

 9                The lookback period will be capped 

10   at a minimum of two years.  For individuals that 

11   apply more than two years after becoming 

12   eligible, they will receive the maximum of the 

13   two years lookback when determining the rent 

14   freeze.

15                SENATOR PARKER:   Mr. President, 

16   through you, will the sponsor continue to yield.

17                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

19   Alcantara, do you continue to yield?  

20                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

22   sponsor yields.

23                SENATOR PARKER:   Senator Alcantara 

24   -- through you, Mr. President -- who would 

25   benefit from this bill?  


                                                               3711

 1                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   It would be 

 2   senior citizens that because they probably forgot 

 3   the application, or for those of us that are -- 

 4   it would just be senior citizens that would 

 5   benefit from this.

 6                SENATOR PARKER:   Mr. President, 

 7   through you, will the sponsor continue to yield 

 8   to a question?  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

10   sponsor continue to yield?  

11                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

13   sponsor yields.

14                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

15   Mr. President.  Senator, how would this rent cap 

16   rollback impact property owners?  And who would 

17   have to pay for the SCRIE candidate -- for the 

18   back rent payments?

19                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   The SCRIE/DRIE 

20   would hold the landlord harmless.

21                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

22   Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to yield 

23   for questions?  

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

25   sponsor continue to yield?  


                                                               3712

 1                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 3   sponsor yields.

 4                SENATOR PARKER:   So who will pay 

 5   the back payments that have not been paid under 

 6   this program?  I know the property owners are 

 7   held harmless, but I was wondering who will pay 

 8   the back payments.

 9                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   There's no back 

10   payment.  What it means is that your rent would 

11   be what it was two years from the day you 

12   qualified for it.

13                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President.  First let me thank the sponsor 

15   for her patience on my questions.  But will 

16   she --

17                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   On the 

18   bill, Senator Parker?  

19                SENATOR PARKER:   No.  Will she 

20   continue to yield for a question?  

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

22   sponsor continue to yield?  

23                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

25   sponsor yields.


                                                               3713

 1                SENATOR PARKER:   Thank you.  

 2   Through you, Mr. President.  Who would reimburse 

 3   property owners for the overpayment of property 

 4   taxes?

 5                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   The bill has 

 6   nothing to do with the taxes.  It just speaks to 

 7   the rent freeze.

 8                SENATOR PARKER:   Mr. President, 

 9   Through you, will the sponsor continue to yield 

10   for a question?

11                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

13   sponsor continue to yield?  

14                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

16   sponsor yields.

17                SENATOR PARKER:   Who would be for 

18   finding eligible seniors who have not filed for 

19   SCRIE but who are qualified and within the 

20   two-year window?

21                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   They don't have 

22   to actively do it.  For example, when a senior 

23   citizen goes to a place to apply, if they 

24   qualified two years back, they would 

25   retroactively apply it to them two years back.


                                                               3714

 1                SENATOR PARKER:   Mr. President, 

 2   through you, will the sponsor continue to yield 

 3   for a question?  

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

 5   sponsor continue to yield?  

 6                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 8   sponsor yields.

 9                SENATOR PARKER:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.  Through you.  

11                Senator, why are there seniors who 

12   have not filed for SCRIE?  

13                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Because they 

14   don't know.  Like for example in my district, 

15   more than 50 percent of seniors that qualify have 

16   not applied.  It could be due to a language 

17   barrier, outreach on behalf of the city.

18                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

19   Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to yield 

20   for a question?  

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

22   sponsor continue to yield?  

23                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

25   sponsor yields.


                                                               3715

 1                SENATOR PARKER:   Senator, what are 

 2   we doing if in fact the problem is in part a 

 3   language barrier?  And certainly I have the same 

 4   issue, not just with Spanish-speaking seniors in 

 5   my district, but also a very large Haitian- 

 6   Creole-speaking population.  Who is responsible 

 7   for bridging that language gap?

 8                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Well, when I 

 9   spoke about the language issue, I was not just 

10   referring to Spanish.  It's whatever language -- 

11   for example, if somebody is in a mostly Chinese 

12   neighborhood, I would imagine that it's Cantonese 

13   and Mandarin.

14                It would be -- can you repeat your 

15   question again, please?

16                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

17   Mr. President.  The question is who's responsible 

18   for making sure that that language barrier is 

19   actually bridged?  

20                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

21   sponsor continue to yield for a question?  

22                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Correct.  

23                The administrating agency is 

24   responsible.

25                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 


                                                               3716

 1   Mr. President, would the sponsor continue to 

 2   yield for a question?  

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

 4   sponsor continue to yield for a question?  

 5                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 7   sponsor yields.

 8                SENATOR PARKER:   How many seniors 

 9   do we believe that this affects statewide?

10                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   I'm not sure.  

11   The comptroller office for the city didn't give 

12   us a number.

13                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President, does the sponsor continue to yield 

15   for a question?  

16                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Will the 

17   sponsor continue to yield for a question?  

18                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

20   sponsor yields.

21                SENATOR PARKER:   Senator, how much 

22   do we believe that this bill -- this SCRIE 

23   rollback act, how much is this going to cost the 

24   State of New York?

25                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   The 


                                                               3717

 1   comptroller's office didn't give us an estimate, 

 2   but they will get back to us.

 3                SENATOR PARKER:   Mr. President, 

 4   through you, will the sponsor continue to yield 

 5   for a question?  

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

 7   sponsor continue to yield for a question?  

 8                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

10   sponsor yields.

11                SENATOR PARKER:   Senator, so are 

12   you to have the Senate understand that we are 

13   proceeding with this bill and we're asked to vote 

14   on this bill without a proper fiscal analysis of 

15   the impact of this legislation on the State of 

16   New York?

17                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   There is no 

18   cost to the State of New York.

19                SENATOR PARKER:   Okay.  Through 

20   you, Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

21   yield for a question?  

22                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

23   sponsor continue to yield for a question?  

24                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 


                                                               3718

 1   sponsor yields.

 2                SENATOR PARKER:   If there's no cost 

 3   to the State of New York, where does the money 

 4   come from in order to kind of look back and bring 

 5   these people into the program who weren't in the 

 6   program currently?  Are you indicating that 

 7   there's extra money in the SCRIE program?

 8                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   It would be a 

 9   loss of revenue to the City of New York to make 

10   up for the program.

11                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

12   Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to yield 

13   for a question?  

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

15   sponsor continue to yield for a question?  

16                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

18   sponsor yields.

19                SENATOR PARKER:   Senator, then how 

20   much would this bill cost the City of New York?

21                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   The city hasn't 

22   gotten back to us with an estimate.

23                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

24   Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to yield 

25   for a question?  


                                                               3719

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

 2   sponsor yield for a question?  

 3                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 5   sponsor yields.

 6                SENATOR PARKER:   Thank you, 

 7   Senator.

 8                This sounds a little redundant, but 

 9   then so we're going to, again, go forward with 

10   passing a bill which we don't understand the -- 

11   we don't understand the economic impact of this 

12   bill on the City of New York, and yet we're going 

13   to take -- are you asking us to take a vote on it 

14   without understanding that?  

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

16   Parker, are you on the bill?  

17                SENATOR PARKER:   No, I'm not on the 

18   bill, I'm asking a question, through you, 

19   Mr. President, about what -- if we don't know -- 

20   I'm being told that we don't know the economic 

21   impact on the city.  And so yet we're -- I'm 

22   asking the Senator if she still wants us to vote 

23   yes on a bill in which we don't know the economic 

24   impact to the City of New York.

25                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   We don't know 


                                                               3720

 1   the economic impact on the City of New York.  But 

 2   I do know the economic impact that would have on 

 3   seniors in any district that can hardly afford to 

 4   live in the City of New York.  And I know what 

 5   that would do with somebody who is living on food 

 6   stamps and who can hardly afford to still stay in 

 7   the City of New York.

 8                SENATOR PARKER:   Mr. President, 

 9   through you, will the sponsor continue to yield 

10   for a question?  

11                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

12   sponsor yield for a question?  

13                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

15   sponsor yields.

16                SENATOR PARKER:   Senator, does this 

17   bill impact senior citizens outside of the City 

18   of New York?  

19                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   No, just the 

20   City of New York.

21                SENATOR PARKER:   Mr. President, 

22   through you, will the sponsor continue to yield 

23   for a question?  

24                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

25   sponsor yield for a question?  


                                                               3721

 1                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 3   sponsor yields.

 4                SENATOR PARKER:   Senator -- through 

 5   you, Mr. President, Senator, why doesn't this 

 6   bill impact seniors throughout the State of 

 7   New York?

 8                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   The city -- 

 9   because most of the -- in my district, for 

10   example, that's where the rent studies have been 

11   done that even seniors, people living on a $15 an 

12   hour minimum wage cannot afford to live in the 

13   City of New York.  The cost to live in places 

14   outside of New York is way cheaper than to stay 

15   in the city.

16                SENATOR PARKER:   Mr. President, 

17   through you, will the sponsor continue to yield 

18   for a question?  

19                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

20   sponsor continue to yield for a question?  

21                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

23   sponsor yields.

24                SENATOR PARKER:   Senator, do we 

25   have any idea on the methodologies that the 


                                                               3722

 1   agency that will be implementing the SCRIE 

 2   program in the City of New York -- I'm assuming 

 3   that the New York City Department of Aging -- 

 4   what modalities and techniques they'll be using 

 5   to get these seniors that they have currently not 

 6   included in the program, to get them now to be 

 7   included in the program?  

 8                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   It's the 

 9   Department of Finance that would be 

10   administrating the program.

11                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

12   Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to yield 

13   for a question?  

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

15   sponsor yield for another question?  

16                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

18   sponsor yields.

19                SENATOR PARKER:   Senator, thank you 

20   again for your patience.  

21                So the Department of Finance.  Do we 

22   know what the Department of Finance will do in 

23   order to get these qualifying seniors who had not 

24   to this point registered for SCRIE, what they 

25   will do now differently to make them now register 


                                                               3723

 1   for the rollback program?

 2                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   The Department 

 3   of Finance reviews the applications, and they 

 4   will know on the person's birthday whether or not 

 5   they qualify for this program.

 6                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

 7   Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to yield 

 8   for a question?  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Does the 

10   sponsor continue to yield for a question?  

11                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   Yes.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

13   sponsor yields.

14                SENATOR PARKER:   Senator, once they 

15   actually have reviewed the applications and they 

16   have figured out that there are X number of 

17   senior citizens in the City of New York who are 

18   eligible for the SCRIE program and have not 

19   applied for the program within the last two 

20   years, what will they be specifically -- do you 

21   know what they'll specifically be doing in order 

22   to now get them to register for this rollback 

23   program?  

24                SENATOR ALCANTARA:   The Department 

25   of Finance would be calculating.  They don't have 


                                                               3724

 1   to tell people to enroll in the program.  And 

 2   they would do it -- people -- their rent is 

 3   calculated as an individual applies.

 4                SENATOR PARKER:   Thank you, 

 5   Senator.

 6                Mr. President, on the bill.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 8   Parker on the bill.

 9                SENATOR PARKER:   First let me thank 

10   Senator Alcantara for her advocacy and for her 

11   leadership on this important issue.  Certainly 

12   there's a great deal of support and sympathy and 

13   empathy around the issues concerning seniors in 

14   the State of New York.

15                I've said before and I'll repeat it 

16   again that, you know, in the 21st District that I 

17   represent -- which is part of Canarsie and part 

18   of Flatlands, but principally East Flatbush and 

19   Flatbush, Midwood, Ditmas Park, Windsor Terrace 

20   and Park Slope -- I actually represent the 

21   largest number of senior citizens than any other 

22   Senate district in the State of New York.

23                And I know just firsthand from my 

24   experience with my own parents about what it took 

25   to maintain a home and raise children and do all 


                                                               3725

 1   the things that life requires on -- you know, on 

 2   the incomes that people have and just trying to 

 3   scrape to survive.

 4                 I think that Senator Alcantara has 

 5   come forward with a great idea in the context of, 

 6   you know, making sure that we have legislation 

 7   that addresses the issues that our senior 

 8   citizens are facing, particularly as it relates 

 9   to rents in the City of New York.

10                Some of you may know that in 

11   Brooklyn, the largest not just borough but the 

12   largest county, not just in the State of New York 

13   but really the largest county by population in 

14   the entire country, we have a very, very large 

15   senior citizen population.  Unfortunately, that 

16   senior citizen population is shrinking.  And that 

17   senior population is shrinking to a large degree 

18   because there's literally no place for them to 

19   live.

20                 That what's happening with the 

21   great land giveaway that Mayor Bloomberg 

22   orchestrated during his 12 years in occupation of 

23   City Hall in the City of New York -- what we saw 

24   was large swaths of land, you know, given away 

25   willy-nilly to his developer friends really in 


                                                               3726

 1   exchange for nothing for the city.  No agreements 

 2   around rent regulations, no agreements around 

 3   affordable housing, no agreements around housing 

 4   for seniors, no agreements around housing for 

 5   veterans, no agreements around housing for the 

 6   disabled.  

 7                And so simply what we have is a 

 8   flood of market-rate housing that has gone up, 

 9   you know, unfettered and indiscriminately and 

10   without any concern for the most vulnerable 

11   populations in our great borough.

12                The City of New York is the largest 

13   city in the country.  If Brooklyn was its own 

14   city, as it once was prior to 1850, we would be 

15   the fourth largest city in the entire country 

16   after the City of New York -- after the rest of 

17   the City of New York, LA, and then Chicago.  And 

18   we're only about 10,000 people less than what 

19   they have in Chicago.

20                And as you can imagine, in a city 

21   that's almost 3 million strong -- this is 

22   Brooklyn, we're talking about Brooklyn being a 

23   city of 3 million strong -- proportionately the 

24   numbers of senior citizens that we have in the 

25   Borough of Brooklyn is actually very, very large.  


                                                               3727

 1   I don't have an exact number, but on average the 

 2   senior population is approximately 30 percent of 

 3   the entire population nationally.  Right?  And 

 4   you see that same number almost worldwide.

 5                That number actually thankfully is 

 6   growing.  I'm actually in a -- I'm actually, you 

 7   know, an aspiring senior citizen myself.  

 8                (Laughter.)

 9                SENATOR PARKER:   An aspiring senior 

10   citizen hoping to be able to live my golden years 

11   in the place that I was born and raised and the 

12   place that I call home.

13                But, you know, again, as I mentioned 

14   before, in the City of New York oftentimes the 

15   cost of living is going up and the chance of 

16   living is going down.  And so this is a good bill 

17   in that it provides an ability for some of our 

18   senior citizens to age in place.

19                It is disheartening when you see 

20   developments come in with market rates, with just 

21   market rates, and they then raise the rents of 

22   the housing available in that community, and 

23   everybody starts raising their rents because of 

24   that new building.  And that then pushes out 

25   families on low incomes.  Families on middle 


                                                               3728

 1   incomes, right?  In fact, if you're a poor family 

 2   in the City of New York, you are more likely to 

 3   have options that a middle-class family doesn't 

 4   have.  

 5                If you're a teacher married to a 

 6   police officer, where do you live in the City of 

 7   New York?  There's almost no place for you to 

 8   live.  If you're a firefighter married to a 

 9   nurse, where do you live?  Right?  

10                And so certainly that has a 

11   deleterious impact on our senior population, 

12   which thankfully is growing because of technology 

13   and things like medicine, you know, access to 

14   health insurance, access to more modern health 

15   facilities, more understanding of a wellness 

16   model versus a sickness model.  You know, 

17   certainly we want to thank Obamacare for keeping 

18   our seniors who might have had preexisting 

19   conditions, you know, well and strong.  Everybody 

20   unfortunately does not have the state medical 

21   insurance that we all enjoy here, and so we need 

22   to continue to do more for our seniors.

23                And so as our senior population 

24   grows, with the pressure and the stress on our 

25   housing in the State of New York, particularly in 


                                                               3729

 1   places like New York City and in Brooklyn where I 

 2   represent, it becomes increasingly more important 

 3   to have options for our senior citizens.

 4                Many times these senior citizens are 

 5   part of what we refer to as the hidden homeless.  

 6   What do we call the hidden homeless?  The hidden 

 7   homeless are people who really can't afford to 

 8   live anywhere and would be out on the street if 

 9   it wasn't for the mercy and the love of family 

10   members, oftentimes a child, a grandchild, a 

11   niece, a nephew -- somebody who will take the 

12   senior citizens in, even though that senior would 

13   not have any place to live if they did not have, 

14   you know, anyplace else to go.  

15                You know, even neighbors now are 

16   taking in nonfamilial senior citizens from the 

17   community to make sure that they are not just 

18   housed but they're able to, to some degree, be 

19   housed in place.  That they are not ripped away 

20   from the bosom of the communities they've lived 

21   in for 20 and 30 and 40 years.

22                That could be -- we could imagine, 

23   Mr. President, how disconcerting it may be for 

24   someone in their 70s or 80s or even 90s who have 

25   been living in a place maybe 50 years, maybe 


                                                               3730

 1   60 years, to all of a sudden not be able to 

 2   afford the place that they have been living.  Not 

 3   to know where the corner store is.  Not to be 

 4   able to walk to the park.  Not to be able to go 

 5   to a senior citizens center that is in the 

 6   community in which they know the executive 

 7   director and the other seniors there, where 

 8   they've built not just family but community.

 9                But too often, Mr. President, that 

10   is the story that we are running into, is case 

11   after case after case where senior citizens in 

12   the State of New York who cannot afford their 

13   housing circumstance are cast out into the 

14   street, and oftentimes are forced to go live with 

15   somebody else, sometimes even in another state.  

16   And that certainly is not I think what these 

17   folks who have given so much to our communities 

18   and so much to our families deserve.

19                I don't remember, and I'd ask the 

20   sponsor and others to correct me if I'm wrong 

21   about this, but I don't remember any public 

22   hearings on this matter.  I think that we ought 

23   to be talking about public hearings.  Not just 

24   talking about them, I think that it would be a 

25   good idea to have public hearings.  I would 


                                                               3731

 1   certainly sit through all of the testimony given 

 2   at a public hearing on such an important issue as 

 3   relates to seniors and housing in the State of 

 4   New York.  

 5                And I know that although today we're 

 6   just talking about New York City, I am sure that 

 7   there are seniors in need of housing across the 

 8   great State of New York.  I'm sure in places as 

 9   well as from Buffalo to Rochester, from Syracuse 

10   to Albany, that there are in fact places in which 

11   senior citizens are having a hard time making 

12   their way.

13                I'm sure in some of the more rural 

14   places as well, senior citizens, you know, are 

15   having problems not just simply with the rents.  

16   Because this is just a part of it.  Rent is just 

17   a part of it.  You know, water bills are going 

18   up.  Energy bills are going up.  Right?  Property 

19   taxes are going up.  Right?  

20                And so in that context, where do our 

21   seniors go?  Where do we provide a place for our 

22   seniors, particularly when they want to age in 

23   place?  Why should they, just because they have 

24   retired and they have developed more experience 

25   and, you know, maybe a little bit more gray hair, 


                                                               3732

 1   that they should be ripped out of the comforts of 

 2   the home that they've known for decades and be 

 3   cast into a new circumstance?  That shouldn't be 

 4   the fate of people who have given so much, who 

 5   have paved the way for us to be at this place and 

 6   this time, that have literally suckled us in 

 7   their bosoms and helped us become the adults that 

 8   we are here today.

 9                We should be doing everything we can 

10   to make sure that the senior citizens in the 

11   State of New York have an ability to keep their 

12   homes.  And I think a good first step would be a 

13   SCRIE public hearing -- maybe a series of public 

14   hearings.  You know, we could have one in 

15   Brooklyn and one in Albany, one in Buffalo, one 

16   in Albany -- I mean, sorry, one in Syracuse.  

17   Certainly we'll have one in Washington Heights, 

18   in Inwood.  You know, the Rockaways, I hear, 

19   would like to have that conversation.  We want to 

20   do one in Utica.  You know, the senior population 

21   in Utica certainly deserves no less protection 

22   around the issues of housing than any other 

23   place.

24                And so I think that this kind of 

25   conversation becomes the backbone of good 


                                                               3733

 1   legislation.  All of us could be more informed.  

 2   They say that legislators -- you know, our 

 3   knowledge is a mile wide and an inch deep.  Our 

 4   seniors should be a place that we are able to not 

 5   just get a mile wide, but we should be a mile 

 6   deep on senior issues and make sure that we're 

 7   doing the best that we can.  

 8                And certainly housing is a great 

 9   place to start.  Why do I say that?  I'm glad you 

10   asked.  

11                (Laughter.)

12                SENATOR PARKER:   Housing is an 

13   important place to start because in public 

14   policy, one of the things we talk about are 

15   externalities.  That is, if you do something -- 

16   think about dropping a pebble into a pond.  You 

17   see the ripples that go out, right?  That pebble 

18   doesn't just affect that one spot in which it 

19   entered the river or the -- sorry -- the pond.  

20   The pond.  Let me keep my metaphors straight, 

21   thank you.

22                Right?  The pebble doesn't just 

23   affect the place in which the pebble entered the 

24   pond, but the ripples also affect the entire 

25   pond.  


                                                               3734

 1                When you talk about public policy 

 2   externalities, the things that we do in Albany -- 

 3   always think about every time we pass a bill or 

 4   don't pass a bill, every time we bring a bill to 

 5   the floor or don't bring a bill to the floor, 

 6   that is like dropping another pebble into the 

 7   pond of the State of New York.  And we're having 

 8   impacts that ripple across the entire state.

 9                In this particular case, the 

10   externalities around housing are greater than 

11   just simply having a place to lay your head and 

12   shelter from the rain and the cold or the heat.  

13   Housing becomes the basis of good healthcare.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

15   DeFrancisco, why do you rise?

16                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Would the 

17   Senator yield to a question?

18                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

19   Parker, will you yield for a question?  

20                SENATOR PARKER:   Yes.

21                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   In order for 

22   me to better understand your argument, can you 

23   tell me, are you for or against this bill?

24                SENATOR PARKER:   I'm for the bill, 

25   Mr. President, through you.


                                                               3735

 1                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Would the 

 2   Senator yield to another question?  

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator, 

 4   will you yield for another question?  

 5                SENATOR PARKER:   Yes.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The 

 7   Senator yields.

 8                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   So you're not 

 9   concerned about the economic impact on the City 

10   of New York any longer?  

11                SENATOR PARKER:   Through you, 

12   Mr. President, I'm absolutely concerned for the 

13   impact on the City of New York.  

14                I do think that when we talk about 

15   seniors and housing, the question is not how much 

16   it costs, the question is what will it cost us if 

17   we don't in fact protect our seniors.  I can't, 

18   you know, stand here representing the community I 

19   represent, with the largest population of seniors 

20   of any Senate district in the State of New York, 

21   and not vote for a bill that is going to protect 

22   our seniors.

23                However, I do know that the senior 

24   citizens of my district, as well as the senior 

25   citizens of the State of New York, are very 


                                                               3736

 1   interested in not just the economic impact, but 

 2   to understand why we do this.

 3                If I can proceed back on the bill, 

 4   Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 6   Parker on the bill.

 7                SENATOR PARKER:   That as we go 

 8   forward and look at the externalities of housing, 

 9   that one of those things is about housing itself, 

10   which is the primary impact.  Then you have a 

11   secondary cause, which is health.  Seniors with 

12   better housing experience better health, period.  

13   That's not me talking.  If you check, the 

14   Department of Health on both the city, state, and 

15   the federal level will tell you that, the 

16   Department of Aging will tell you that, that the 

17   quality -- and not just having housing, but 

18   having good-quality housing is critical for the 

19   longevity of our senior citizen population.

20                Again, being an aspiring senior 

21   citizen, I'm looking for longevity.  You know, we 

22   start talking about, you know, the fountain of 

23   youth, we can literally here in the State of 

24   New York in Albany create the fountain of youth 

25   by in fact investing in our senior citizens.  


                                                               3737

 1   That's the real fountain.  

 2                You know, but if we do want an 

 3   exploratory committee to Florida to actually look 

 4   for the original one, I'm happy to participate in 

 5   that committee as well for a couple of weeks.  

 6   But in the meantime, we ought to be doing public 

 7   hearings that examine these externalities.  

 8                We also know that in the context of 

 9   senior citizens, if they're living longer, they 

10   also, many of them, have a lot more disposable 

11   income.  That disposable income goes to undergird 

12   families that they may be supporting.  New York 

13   City being a large mecca of immigrants, those 

14   seniors also have a significant impact on 

15   remittances that go to other countries, 

16   particularly Caribbean countries.  Right?  Places 

17   that are represented in my district and Senator 

18   Alcantara's district, like the Dominican 

19   Republic, like Haiti, like Jamaica, like 

20   Trinidad, like Barbados, places like Guyana.  

21   Right?  

22                And so, you know, providing housing 

23   and making sure that those senior citizens in our 

24   communities are able to age in place helps them 

25   with their healthcare, helps them in the context 


                                                               3738

 1   of their personal happiness, helps them with 

 2   their ability to help their families 

 3   economically, continues to actually broaden out 

 4   in the context of helping people in other 

 5   countries and their families here that may or may 

 6   not be either in New York City proper, New York 

 7   State, or the country, right, because they're in 

 8   fact supporting families wherever they are.

 9                We also find that senior citizens 

10   who are allowed to age in place are safer.  They 

11   have a connection to the community.  They have 

12   not just family members, oftentimes, but many 

13   times neighbors and community organizations that 

14   know where they are, know who they are, look in 

15   on them, and are able to protect them from 

16   dangers.  And there's a significant issue in 

17   terms of people preying on our senior citizens, 

18   and that's certainly a concern.

19                I think that we need to go further 

20   in the context of, you know, public hearings -- 

21   not just looking at externalities, but looking at 

22   other areas in which SCRIE can be applied.  What 

23   do I mean by that?  We might want to even lower 

24   the age of the members in terms of SCRIE, because 

25   we're having so many people being pushed out.  


                                                               3739

 1                This bill is a great bill because it 

 2   looks forward, right -- sorry, it looks back.  

 3   Right?  But we ought to be looking forward and 

 4   saying, where is our next population?  So many of 

 5   or seniors are actually retiring early.  Why?  

 6   Sometimes because they belong to great bargaining 

 7   units.  Sometimes because, you know, they simply 

 8   are being pushed out of their companies earlier.  

 9   Right?  And so they're being -- they're out in 

10   the world on fixed incomes earlier than they had 

11   been 10, 20, 30 years ago.  

12                And so we ought to be at least 

13   examining that, getting the data, Mr. President, 

14   and having public hearings to kind of talk about 

15   where we are with our senior citizen population 

16   as it relates to housing.

17                We really ought to be also joining 

18   this in the context of, again, public protection 

19   to make sure that as we are looking at SCRIE that 

20   we're looking at our ability to build senior 

21   housing, period.  I have not seen a bill the 

22   entire session that in fact addresses the issues 

23   of senior housing specifically as a program.  We 

24   passed 421-a, like it or love it.  We passed some 

25   other bills as relates to, you know, providing 


                                                               3740

 1   housing for certain groups.  But, you know, 

 2   where's our 421-a for seniors?  

 3                Where's everybody stepping forward 

 4   to say we need to take care of those who took 

 5   care of so much for us and build housing 

 6   facilities in the City of New York and other 

 7   places that need them for senior citizens.  

 8   Right?  That we haven't provided enough of an 

 9   economic incentive here in the State of New York 

10   for our senior citizens who are trying to age and 

11   again, you know, age in place.

12                And so that doesn't necessarily mean 

13   that we have to take them out of the community.  

14   But maybe as we are looking at where there is, 

15   you know, lots open, that we ought to be looking 

16   in those places.

17                During the budget process the 

18   Governor, in a great stroke of vision, created 

19   the Vital Brooklyn program in which he is 

20   building around 3,000 units of housing.  And I 

21   commend the Governor for that very appropriate 

22   use of state funds.  You know, I'm arguing to him 

23   that a large portion of those 3,000 units, at 

24   least a third of it, should be used just for 

25   seniors.  Senior citizens really ought to not 


                                                               3741

 1   just get a third, but they ought to get the first 

 2   third.  

 3                That we ought to be looking at where 

 4   our senior citizens are and making sure that they 

 5   have appropriate housing, safe housing, 

 6   comfortable housing, affordable housing so that 

 7   they can continue to live in our great city, in 

 8   the great borough of Brooklyn, but again 

 9   throughout the state.

10                So again, even though this bill 

11   specifically speaks to New York City, I do 

12   certainly recognize and want to acknowledge in my 

13   comments that every place from Buffalo to 

14   Brookhaven, from Binghamton to Utica, all are 

15   getting, you know, the senior housing that they 

16   need.  I think that it's critically important 

17   that we do that, but we also do that within the 

18   context of a process that makes sense.  

19                We don't nearly have enough 

20   information about what our seniors are going 

21   through.  So when we have this public hearing, we 

22   ought to bring in not just people who are experts 

23   on housing, not just people who are experts on 

24   the budget, but we ought to bring forward people 

25   who are actual senior citizens, people who are 


                                                               3742

 1   actually in our communities.  We need to hear 

 2   from them.  We need to hear their stories.  We 

 3   need to understand what they're going through 

 4   every single day so that we can properly address 

 5   their issues here in this august chamber.

 6                I think that it's important that we 

 7   work together.  You know, we have differences in 

 8   this chamber -- upstate, downstate, you know, 

 9   eastern part of the state, western part of the 

10   state, Hudson Valley, Long Island, urban areas, 

11   rural areas, suburbs, exurbs, hinterlands -- I 

12   know some people liked my use of the word 

13   hinterlands in the last debate.  But, you know, 

14   we have all of these regions here in the State of 

15   New York.

16                But there's not one of those areas 

17   that is without senior citizens, not one in which 

18   senior citizens fail to be an important part of 

19   the vitality and the vibrancy of these varied 

20   communities which we all represent proudly here 

21   in the State Senate.

22                And so, Mr. President, I'm asking us 

23   to come forward and to have public hearings and 

24   to bring forward a real important conversation 

25   that has not been had yet.  In most countries 


                                                               3743

 1   outside of the United States, being a senior 

 2   citizen is an exalted position.  To have somebody 

 3   whose hair is white, someone who has some years 

 4   under their belt.  Usually, you know, in other 

 5   places they don't really call them seniors, they 

 6   actually call them elders.  Right?  They become 

 7   an important fabric, not just in the body politic 

 8   within those particular nations, but they also 

 9   become a part of the actual governance.  Right?  

10                And so that when you look at, you 

11   know, the traditional community governing 

12   structures, there are not really a lot of young 

13   people.  They don't have these young 

14   whippersnappers like Senator Bailey here.  A lot 

15   of them -- most of the time they are people of 

16   advanced age, people who have had some years 

17   under their belts, some people who have worked 

18   and had families and had children and have gone 

19   through the full circle of life, if we can call 

20   it that, and have -- and are ready to contribute.

21                We really ought to bring forward a 

22   bill -- and let me while I'm here, if Senator 

23   Alcantara will humor me, I'd like to offer a 

24   friendly amendment to this bill that would add a 

25   statewide council of elders to the State of 


                                                               3744

 1   New York, a set of senior citizens that will help 

 2   advise us on every single aspect of every single 

 3   state policy that we do.  I think in a bit of a 

 4   reversal, we'll have seven people on the board; 

 5   the Governor will get to pick three, the 

 6   Legislature will pick four.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator, 

 8   could you have an offline conversation with the 

 9   sponsor about your suggestion and come back to 

10   the bill, please.

11                SENATOR PARKER:   I certainly will.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Thank 

13   you, sir.

14                SENATOR PARKER:   I will certainly 

15   talk offline with Senator Alcantara about the 

16   amendment.  If the bill doesn't pass today, then 

17   we'll have an opportunity.  If not, maybe we'll 

18   do a stand-alone bill.

19                Mr. President, may I continue on the 

20   bill?

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Go ahead.

22                SENATOR PARKER:   Thank you very 

23   much, Mr. President.

24                I think that as relates to the 

25   specific bill, our lookback date is a good period 


                                                               3745

 1   of time, but I frankly think that we ought to be 

 2   looking back longer.  I think we ought to be 

 3   looking back five years.  Why do I say that we 

 4   should be looking back five years?  I'm glad you 

 5   asked.

 6                When you look at a two-year time 

 7   period, that is a very short amount of time for a 

 8   senior citizen who may not have known that they 

 9   were in a program and may have just caught up to 

10   the fact that there was a great benefit within 

11   the context of SCRIE for them to avail themselves 

12   of.  And so here they are, you know, 25 months, 

13   26 months out, and they've just missed it.  

14                I think a five-year period is a more 

15   reasonable amount of time to make sure that we 

16   avail -- that senior citizens have the ability to 

17   avail themselves of this important program.  

18   Again, nothing is more important, even in places 

19   like Staten Island, than having good affordable 

20   housing for our senior citizens.  And so we want 

21   to make sure that we give them every single 

22   opportunity to participate in this program.

23                It seems to me that if we're rolling 

24   back and we're looking at this and there's so 

25   many senior citizens who aren't availing 


                                                               3746

 1   themselves of this program, there must be money 

 2   left in the program.  And I'm looking forward to 

 3   hearing the comptroller's report on how much 

 4   we're spending each year on SCRIE, how much money 

 5   is available, left.  What is happening with all 

 6   this extra SCRIE money?  Is it going into 

 7   unclaimed funds?  Can senior citizens look 

 8   back -- maybe this is another way for us to 

 9   address the bill, is to have an ability for 

10   senior citizens to address this in the context of 

11   unclaimed funds through the New York State 

12   Comptroller's office and be able to draw the 

13   money down that way in order to pay for their 

14   rent.

15                Regardless of how we do it, it's 

16   critical that we make sure that we provide every 

17   opportunity for the senior citizens in our 

18   community to participate in this important 

19   program.  I think that we have a long time to 

20   think about this, as we have about six days left 

21   in the session.  We can, you know, withdraw this 

22   bill now, make some of the amendments, you know, 

23   schedule some public hearings and maybe bring it 

24   back in five or six days.  Certainly it becomes 

25   an option for us in the context of a process that 


                                                               3747

 1   makes sense for our senior citizens.  

 2                We haven't even invited senior 

 3   citizens to the gallery today to in fact see this 

 4   auspicious occasion.  I'm certainly sure that 

 5   they would love to have been here to participate 

 6   in the revelry around passing a bill that was so 

 7   important for their communities.  

 8                I'm sure that almost every member of 

 9   this body could stand up and talk about senior 

10   citizens who are important in their communities, 

11   whether they're members of their community boards 

12   or members of their precinct councils.  You know, 

13   we have senior citizens who obviously lead our 

14   block associations, our civic associations, our 

15   tenant associations.  

16                You know, I had even a senior -- 

17   I've had actually two seniors win Senior of the 

18   Year from the State Department of the Aging.  One 

19   of my favorites, Ms. Hazel Foster, a great, great 

20   lady, lives on East 25th Street.  Which has, by 

21   the way, parenthetically, been named Greenest 

22   Block in Brooklyn over 10 times.  But that 

23   Greenest Block in Brooklyn happens exactly 

24   because of Ms. Hazel Foster, one of our senior 

25   citizens who steadfastly works with other members 


                                                               3748

 1   on the block to make sure their lawns are 

 2   properly taken care of and the plants, flowers -- 

 3   she actually is what they called a master 

 4   composter.  I didn't even know we had this.  

 5                We have a great program at the 

 6   Brooklyn Botanical Gardens -- which by the way is 

 7   also in my district, the 21st District in 

 8   Brooklyn, in which they have composting classes.  

 9   She has not only gone to these composting 

10   classes, she has become a master of those 

11   composting classes and goes around the district 

12   teaching people how to compost.  

13                Composting is not very easy.  It's 

14   not as easy as it sounds.  It takes a lot of hard 

15   work.  But this senior citizen, Hazel Foster in 

16   my district, has really, you know, made that part 

17   of her life's work to beautify our community.  

18                This just is one example of somebody 

19   who's contributed.  And I was so proud to 

20   celebrate her when she was named Senior of the 

21   Year by the New York State Office of Aging.

22                Also I had a great young man -- I'm 

23   going to call him a young man, because when I 

24   came up and heard he had won Senior of the Year 

25   by the Department of Aging in the state, George 


                                                               3749

 1   Tate -- and Mr. George Tate is going to be very 

 2   embarrassed that I mentioned his name on the 

 3   floor of the Senate.  He's a very, very humble 

 4   man.  I kind of fancy myself after him.  

 5                (Laughter.)

 6                SENATOR PARKER:   You know, Mr. Tate 

 7   is a father and a grandfather.  His wife Donna is 

 8   a teacher.  You know, he's given a great deal.  

 9   To this day he is a member of the community 

10   board, a member of his block association, a 

11   member of the precinct council.  I don't think 

12   there's any major, you know, civic activity that 

13   we're doing in Flatbush or East Flatbush that 

14   Mr. George Tate is not engaged in in some way.  

15                But he's not a loud voice, he's 

16   really quiet hands.  You know, sometimes there's 

17   loud voices but we also need, Brian, those quiet 

18   hands.  You need people to put their hands to it 

19   and make it work.  Right?  Because we know that 

20   it's the -- when you pray, you've got to move 

21   your feet.  Some people are praying loud and 

22   praying hard, but they're not moving their feet 

23   the way they need to be.  Right?  

24                So we got hands, we got feet, and 

25   now you can get some stuff actually done in your 


                                                               3750

 1   community.  And I think George Tate is one of 

 2   those people who helps us get things done.  He's 

 3   particularly active with helping our young 

 4   people.  He certainly sees the importance for 

 5   intergenerational activities.  Without housing 

 6   for our seniors, how do we in fact talk about 

 7   intergenerational programming.  Right?  

 8                And so, you know, we just celebrated 

 9   Gun Violence Awareness Month.  Right?  How much 

10   less gun violence would we have in the State of 

11   New York if we had more intergenerational 

12   programs in which our senior citizens were 

13   engaging day to day, minute to minute, hour to 

14   hour with our young people to give them that 

15   steady hand that they need, to make sure that the 

16   word of encouragement to finish school was there, 

17   to give them ideas about, you know, alternatives 

18   to violence, to give them some ideas about how to 

19   move with their career path.  

20                I know that some of the seniors in 

21   my community have been a guide and a steady hand 

22   for me as I have one or two times strayed off the 

23   path.  You know, they gently -- well, sometimes 

24   not too gently -- 

25                (Laughter.)


                                                               3751

 1                SENATOR PARKER:   -- but sometimes 

 2   just gently push me back onto the straight and 

 3   narrow.  Even some of the more -- I'm not going 

 4   to call them senior citizens, but the senior 

 5   members of this august body here have had their 

 6   hand in that development.  

 7                And so, you know, this bill becomes 

 8   important because we need that kind of work.  And 

 9   certainly one of my constituents, former 

10   senior -- last year's Senior of the Year, George 

11   Tate, is one of those hands that certainly works 

12   with our young people very directly, but also is 

13   oftentimes finding public policy ideas and civic 

14   activities that engage our young people more.

15                We certainly want to see a lot more 

16   work by senior citizens.  We think that this is 

17   going to happen not just because of this bill, 

18   but certainly if we take up my idea of hearings 

19   on the issues of SCRIE and then using that as a 

20   kind of conduit to talk about some of these other 

21   issues, that we'll be surprised at how many 

22   issues are connected and how well we can work 

23   together on these things of commonality.  

24                Because certainly I know that there 

25   is nobody in this chamber who does not want to 


                                                               3752

 1   see our senior citizens doing better, don't want 

 2   to -- you know, everybody wants to see them 

 3   having an opportunity to live someplace that's 

 4   safe, that is protected, someplace where they are 

 5   able to continue to contribute to their last -- 

 6   you know, till they don't want to contribute 

 7   anymore.  Not because we're forcing them out; 

 8   because they decided that they no longer wanted 

 9   to contribute.

10                I always think of, when I deal with 

11   senior issues, my own grandmother, Fanny Mae 

12   Olds, Fanny Mae Galloway Olds.  We used to 

13   lovingly refer to her as "Mother."  And Mother, 

14   she actually I think was in Senator Velmanette 

15   Montgomery's district over in Kings Walk.  Is 

16   that your district?  Kings Walk, yeah.  In the 

17   Kings housing, yeah.  

18                And she was a faithful member of the 

19   Cornerstone Baptist Church on Lewis and Madison 

20   Avenue -- Madison Street, sorry, in Brooklyn, 

21   New York.  She was a praying woman, and she was 

22   somebody who made sure that the family, you know, 

23   really stayed together.  She had 10 children.  

24                She was one of 12 herself, coming 

25   from a place call Fentress, Virginia.  Moved from 


                                                               3753

 1   Fentress when she was a young woman to Norfolk, 

 2   Virginia, in a little town outside of Norfolk 

 3   called Campostella, where she met my grandfather, 

 4   Julius Butler Olds.  

 5                And together they brought forth a 

 6   family of 10 children, and my mother was the 

 7   second of those children.  They came to New York 

 8   in -- I want to say in the 1940s, 1944 or so.  My 

 9   mother was 10 or 12 at the time.  And so she 

10   really lived on Madison Street, and then she 

11   actually took care of my aunts and uncles before 

12   my grandmother, this wonderful senior citizen, 

13   you know, came up.  

14                But even then housing was important.  

15   And they stayed with one of my grandmother's 

16   friends for a little while.  My grandmother came 

17   up here, was a member of 32BJ.  Used to clean 

18   people's houses.  She was a domestic in Virginia, 

19   came here and did a lot of that domestic work 

20   here, and late in her life worked in a bank where 

21   she actually used to clean this one bank top to 

22   bottom every night.  And that was her job.  I 

23   used to ask her for samples from the bank; she 

24   never brought none.

25                (Laughter.)


                                                               3754

 1                SENATOR PARKER:   But I know that 

 2   she worked hard and was very proud of her family.  

 3   She raised all of her children in the Cornerstone 

 4   Baptist Church, where actually my mother and 

 5   father met, met at the church, sometime -- I 

 6   don't know.  I always asked them how long they 

 7   were married; they used to tell me forever.  I 

 8   didn't know what that really meant.  But 

 9   apparently they knew each other a very, very long 

10   time.  

11                But my grandmother was an acolyte of 

12   the great Dr. Sandy F. Ray.  Lewis Avenue is now 

13   co-named Sandy F. Ray Boulevard.  Those of you 

14   who are familiar with Brooklyn would know Sandy 

15   F. Ray, a man of great esteem, also a senior 

16   citizen.  And one of the things that the 

17   Cornerstone Baptist Church always did was take 

18   care of its parishioners.  And housing was one of 

19   the issues that they continued to talk about.  

20   Even under the great leadership now of Reverend 

21   Lawrence Aker III, they continue to talk about 

22   housing as being an important part of their 

23   mission, not just for all of their parishioners 

24   but also for their senior citizens, understanding 

25   that the backbone of many particularly black 


                                                               3755

 1   churches are seniors, and particularly senior 

 2   women.  

 3                And we know just statistically that 

 4   women outlive men.  And so statistically, when we 

 5   talk about senior populations, we're talking 

 6   about older women who are oftentimes alone or 

 7   sometimes, you know, even if they're estranged 

 8   from their families, again, dealing with all of 

 9   these struggles.  

10                My grandmother was one of these 

11   women, who luckily we had one of my cousins -- my 

12   cousin Towana Washington went and lived with my 

13   grandmother when she was very young, just -- 

14   really just so my grandmother would have 

15   something to do, give her some company, get her 

16   involved.  

17                You know, we shouldn't be putting 

18   our elders out to pasture just simply because 

19   they no longer work in the traditional economy 

20   anymore.  That we need to be finding better 

21   opportunities to incorporate the senior citizens, 

22   the elders in our communities, these people in 

23   their golden years that have pearls of wisdom.  

24   We ought to be incorporating them into the things 

25   that we do every single day.  And so we ought 


                                                               3756

 1   to -- you know, that's an example again I got 

 2   from my grandmother, Fanny Mae Galloway Olds.  

 3   Who again, you know, I would not be here if it 

 4   wasn't for her example.  I wouldn't be here and 

 5   have an opportunity to address you in this 

 6   important body if it wasn't for her sacrifice and 

 7   her work and all the things that she instilled 

 8   into my mother and myself.  

 9                And so I'm sure we all have our 

10   stories.  In fact, I want to encourage my 

11   colleagues one by one this afternoon to stand up 

12   and talk about your grandparents and talk about 

13   their impact on your life.  I think that would be 

14   an important -- I think that would be an addition 

15   to this great conversation that we're having here 

16   this afternoon, because I think that only by 

17   understanding these myriad of stories -- they add 

18   to the tapestry of the diversity that we have 

19   here in the great State of New York and our 

20   understanding of our legislative missions here.  

21                I certainly want to continue to have 

22   this conversation, Mr. President, but for now I'm 

23   going to pause in the interest of giving some of 

24   my colleagues an opportunity to share their 

25   vignettes.  Thank you.  


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Thank 

 2   you, Senator Parker.

 3                Senator Díaz --

 4                SENATOR DÍAZ:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   -- why do 

 7   you rise?

 8                SENATOR DÍAZ:   On the bill.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

10   Díaz on the bill.

11                SENATOR DÍAZ:   I'm trying to -- no, 

12   Mr. President, I am not planning to equalize the 

13   time that my colleague took.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   I thank 

15   you on behalf of everyone in the room.  

16                (Laughter.)

17                SENATOR DÍAZ:   Yes, and I think 

18   that my colleague has proven to be better than 

19   Senator Liz Krueger in speaking for a long time.  

20   Ms. Krueger, there's a new champion in the house.

21                SENATOR KRUEGER:   You're exactly 

22   right.

23                SENATOR DÍAZ:   So you're no longer 

24   the champion.

25                Mr. President, on the bill, I'm 


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 1   standing here today to congratulate my colleague 

 2   Marisol Alcantara.  

 3                I am a senior citizen, 74 years old.  

 4   I have always been -- since I got elected, I have 

 5   always been trying to get in the Senior Citizen 

 6   Committee.  When I was in the City Council I was 

 7   the chairman of the Senior Citizen Committee, and 

 8   here in Albany I've always been in the Senior 

 9   Citizen Committee.

10                Because in my district that I 

11   represent, I serve 22 senior citizen centers, and 

12   I know the problems they're facing -- rent, some 

13   of them have to decide if they eat or pay rent, 

14   if they buy their medicine or die, or if they 

15   have to pay their utilities.  So they have no 

16   money to live.

17                When Marisol Alcantara, Senator 

18   Alcantara comes here and presents a law like 

19   that, a piece of legislation to be helpful to the 

20   seniors, to go retroactive, I have to tip my hat 

21   to Senator Alcantara.  I have to tip my hat to 

22   her and congratulate her, because that -- we 

23   serve black and Hispanic senior citizens in our 

24   districts.  The majority of our districts are 

25   black and Hispanic senior citizens.  And we know 


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 1   how -- the things that they're going through.  We 

 2   know how are they -- how they suffer every day.  

 3                So if we could help them to go 

 4   retroactive two years at least in SCRIE, I think 

 5   that is something very dignified.  And we 

 6   shouldn't be asking what will be the financial 

 7   consequences to the city.  We shouldn't be asking 

 8   those kinds of questions.  Senior citizens have 

 9   given all their lives for our city and our state.  

10   Senior citizens have worked hard.  

11                Now we all, as Democrats, we always 

12   say that we Democrats are the champions of the 

13   poor and the needy.  So we have one Democrat 

14   here, Marisol Alcantara, championing for the 

15   needy and the senior citizens.

16                So, Mr. President and ladies and 

17   gentlemen, I'm proud to vote yes and I'm proud to 

18   congratulate Marisol Alcantara on this 

19   magnificent, beautiful, excellent piece of 

20   legislation.  Thank you very much.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Thank 

22   you, Senator Díaz.

23                Senator Rivera.

24                SENATOR RIVERA:   Mr. President, I 

25   only stand to talk for just a few minutes about 


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 1   how great this program is.  

 2                SCRIE and DRIE not only -- you 

 3   forgot DRIE, Senator Parker.  SCRIE is actually 

 4   one of the golden standards as far as public 

 5   policy is concerned.  We do it in our office all 

 6   the time, we have dozens of seniors who sign up.  

 7                I'm very thankful to Senator 

 8   Alcantara for bringing this to the floor, and I'm 

 9   voting in the affirmative.  

10                Thank you, Mr. President.  

11                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Thank 

12   you, Senator Rivera.

13                Senator Bailey.

14                SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.  I will speak briefly on this.  

16                I want to speak to what Senator 

17   Alcantara said earlier about awareness.  And I 

18   think this is an excellent bill, Senator.  I 

19   think that what we should be doing is making sure 

20   that -- you said, I think, less than half of the 

21   seniors in the district that are eligible don't 

22   apply.  So I think that we need to make sure that 

23   we're making more of an effort to reach more 

24   seniors that are eligible for this great program.  

25                I vote in the affirmative, 


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 1   Mr. President.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Senator 

 3   Hamilton.

 4                SENATOR HAMILTON:   I just want to 

 5   commend State Senator Alcantara for this bill.  

 6   It's a fabulous bill.  

 7                In my office, full-time and 

 8   part-time employees have training in DRIE and 

 9   SCRIE.  At least once a week I have a senior 

10   coming into my office crying because they can't 

11   pay their rent.  And a lot of times SCRIE and 

12   DRIE is the difference between someone having 

13   money for food or not eating a particular week.  

14                So it's a great idea.  It's a great 

15   law.  You know, my office, we have so many senior 

16   citizens coming in I have to bring in Brooklyn 

17   Legal Services to handle the volume of seniors 

18   who are feeling the crunch for housing in Central 

19   Brooklyn.

20                So we need to do more for our 

21   seniors in their golden years, and I think this 

22   is a great bill.  And I'm sure Senator Alcantara 

23   will introduce more great bills for our seniors.  

24                Thank you.  I'm voting yes.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Seeing no 


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 1   other members wishing to be heard, the debate is 

 2   closed.  

 3                The Secretary will ring the bell.  

 4                Read the last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   Announce 

11   the results.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  

13                Absent from voting:  Senators Hannon 

14   and Larkin.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                Senator Flanagan.

18                SENATOR FLANAGAN:   Mr. President, 

19   any of the bills that are on the calendar, lay 

20   them aside for the balance of the day.  

21                Is there any further business before 

22   the house?

23                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   There is 

24   no further business at the desk.

25                SENATOR FLANAGAN:   We will 


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 1   reconvene tomorrow in session at 12:00 clock.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT AKSHAR:   On 

 3   motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

 4   Tuesday, June 13th, at 12:00 p.m.

 5                (Whereupon, at 6:07 p.m., the Senate 

 6   adjourned.)

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