Regular Session - March 19, 2019

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                   March 19, 2019

11                      3:16 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR BRIAN A. BENJAMIN, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 3   Senate will come to order.  

 4                I ask everyone present to please 

 5   rise and repeat with me the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7   the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Bishop 

 9   Calvin Rice, of the New Jerusalem Worship Center 

10   in Jamaica, will give today's invocation.  

11                Bishop Rice.

12                BISHOP RICE:   Good afternoon to 

13   this august body, especially to the Queens and 

14   Staten Island delegation, and especially to my 

15   Senator, Senator Comrie, and Senator Sanders.

16                May we pray.

17                Dear Lord of heaven and earth, Maker 

18   and Ruler of all things, we the benefactors of 

19   Your grace, which is renewed each and every day, 

20   humbly express our sincere and profound thanks 

21   for all things nature has provided for us to 

22   sustain life.  We are grateful for the water we 

23   drink, the air we breathe, and the food we eat.  

24   Thank You for the intellect to produce manmade 

25   comforts of clothing and shelter.  


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 1                I pray this afternoon that You grant 

 2   this governing body divine wisdom to legislate 

 3   laws and ordinances that would enhance and 

 4   protect the lives of all of its people in every 

 5   district, every neighborhood throughout this 

 6   great state.

 7                Give these men and women the spirit 

 8   of unity and purpose to make our state a light in 

 9   the world, the melting pot of culture and 

10   diversity, working and living as one people, so 

11   that our state mantra will truly become a 

12   reality:  Out of many, we are one.  

13                We ask this in the name of God of 

14   our faith.  Amen.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

16   reading of the Journal.

17                THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, 

18   March 18, 2019, the Senate met pursuant to 

19   adjournment.  The Journal of Sunday, March 17, 

20   2019, was read and approved.  On motion, Senate 

21   adjourned.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Without 

23   objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

24                Presentation of petitions.

25                Messages from the Assembly.


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 1                The Secretary will read.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   On page 17, Senator 

 3   Kaplan moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 4   Investigations and Government Operations, 

 5   Assembly Bill Number 2221 and substitute it for 

 6   the identical Senate Bill 4116, Third Reading 

 7   Calendar 273.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 9   substitution is so ordered.

10                Messages from the Governor.

11                Reports of standing committees.

12                Reports of select committees.

13                Communications and reports from 

14   state officers.  

15                Motions and resolutions.

16                Senator Gianaris.

17                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

18   on behalf of Senator Parker, on page 17 I offer 

19   the following amendments to Calendar 274, Senate 

20   Print 4049, and ask that said bill retain its 

21   place on the Third Reading Calendar.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

23   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

24   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

25                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can you call on 


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 1   Senator Griffo, please.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 3   Griffo.

 4                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.

 6                I move, on behalf of Senator 

 7   Flanagan, the following bills be discharged from 

 8   their respective committees and be recommitted:  

 9   Senate Bills 885, 895, 910, 919, 923, 928, 931, 

10   952, 1017, 1058, 1035.  And I ask that they be 

11   recommitted with instructions to strike the 

12   enacting clause.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   It is 

14   so ordered.

15                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Also, 

16   Mr. President, on behalf of Senator Ortt I move 

17   the following bill, Senate Bill 4107, be 

18   discharged from its respective committee and be 

19   recommitted with instructions to strike the 

20   enacting clause.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   It is 

22   so ordered.

23                Senator Gianaris.

24                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

25   now move to adopt the Resolution Calendar, with 


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 1   the exception of Resolution 687.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   All in 

 3   favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar, with 

 4   the exception of Resolution 687, please signify 

 5   by saying aye.

 6                (Response of "Aye.")

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 8   Opposed, nay.

 9                (No response.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

11   Resolution Calendar is adopted.

12                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can we now take 

13   up the reading of the calendar, please.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

15   Secretary will read.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 47, 

17   Senate Print 231, by Senator Kennedy, an act to 

18   amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law and the Public 

19   Officers Law.

20                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Lay it aside.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Lay it 

22   aside.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 67, 

24   Senate Print 1130A, by Senator Benjamin, an act 

25   to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.


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 1                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Lay it aside.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Lay it 

 3   aside.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   236, Senate Print 3656, by Senator Kennedy, an 

 6   act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 8   the last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 9.  This 

10   act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

11   shall have become a law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

13   the roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

16   Kennedy to explain his vote.

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.

19                I rise to support this long-awaited 

20   bill, a piece of legislation that would require 

21   two additional appointments to transit authority 

22   boards across New York State.  Those two 

23   appointments with voting rights would consist of 

24   a transit-dependent rider and a 

25   paratransit-dependent rider.  


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 1                We're taking about people who use 

 2   and rely on these transportation systems each and 

 3   every day to get to work, to get to school, to 

 4   get to doctor's appointments, to pay bills, to 

 5   see family and friends.  The reality is these 

 6   riders should have had this level of 

 7   participation years ago.  

 8                We're not asking for a lot.  We're 

 9   simply asking for the people who use these 

10   transportation networks to have a seat at the 

11   table to have their voices heard and to be part 

12   of the decision-making when these authorities are 

13   implementing programs and making decisions that 

14   have an impact not only on the economy in general 

15   in the respective regions across the state, but 

16   on the lives of the individuals who depend on 

17   those systems.  

18                They deserve to have that voice and 

19   to have that voice represent the needs of the 

20   larger community and their voices.  And this 

21   isn't just a push coming from this chamber.  In 

22   Western New York, the County of Erie, the City of 

23   Buffalo, the City of Niagara Falls have all 

24   passed regulations supporting our efforts.  

25                In the various public hearings that 


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 1   we've held with Chairman Leroy Comrie and I 

 2   across New York State -- on Long Island, in 

 3   Westchester, in Manhattan, in Buffalo and this 

 4   upcoming Friday, I assume we'll hear the same in 

 5   Syracuse -- time and time again we've heard from 

 6   the ridership that they want their voices heard, 

 7   they want a seat at the table, and they want a 

 8   voting position on these boards.

 9                So in addition to the dozens of 

10   individuals that we've heard from, the genesis of 

11   this being a grassroots motivation and advocacy 

12   from Day One, we advance this legislation.

13                I want to thank individuals from 

14   across the State of New York that have spoken up 

15   and spoken out to have their voices heard.  

16   Particularly, I'd like to thank those individuals 

17   with disabilities that have fought tirelessly to 

18   get this bill passed -- individuals like Todd 

19   Vaarwerk, of the Western New York Independent 

20   Living Center.  We want to thank Todd and his 

21   organization for speaking so loudly, so 

22   decisively and consistently on these measures.  

23   Their efforts across this state have not gone 

24   unnoticed.  They have made a real difference in 

25   the lives of New Yorkers and, in advancing this 


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 1   bill, will have continued their efforts.

 2                This is a bill that has an impact 

 3   all across this state.  It's calling for stronger 

 4   transit partnerships, having individuals' voices 

 5   heard, and it will create a stronger economy and 

 6   workforce across the state.  

 7                And with that, I want to thank again 

 8   our leader, Senator Andrea Stewart-Cousins, and 

 9   all of those that helped to make this bill a 

10   reality here today.  

11                Mr. President, I vote aye.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

13   Kennedy to be recorded in the affirmative.

14                Announce the results.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

17   bill is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   237, Senate Print 4331, by Senator Gounardes, an 

20   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   There 

22   is a home-rule message at the desk.

23                The Secretary will read the last 

24   section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 


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 1   act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 2   shall have become a law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 4   the roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 7   Gounardes to explain his vote.

 8                SENATOR GOUNARDES:   Mr. President, 

 9   today is an incredibly important day.  Today we 

10   are doing more than just passing a bill to renew 

11   and expand an initiative that will improve 

12   pedestrian safety on our streets by installing 

13   speed cameras in New York City school zones.  

14                A program which began five years 

15   ago, in 2014; a program which has proven to 

16   reduce speeding by 63 percent on streets where 

17   cameras are installed.  And we know, based on 

18   unimpeachable data, that the speed at which a car 

19   hits another object, whether that is another car, 

20   a cyclist, or a pedestrian, determines whether 

21   someone gets to live or die, gets seriously 

22   injured, or merely escapes with a few scrapes and 

23   a possible fender-bender.  A program in which 

24   81 percent of people who get caught speeding do 

25   not get caught again because they change their 


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 1   behavior and slow down.

 2                I don't know if all of my colleagues 

 3   fully grasp the importance of today.  Today's 

 4   vote is about more than just renewing and 

 5   expanding this program.  Today's vote is a 

 6   positive affirmative statement that New York City 

 7   streets must be safe for all, because no parent, 

 8   senior, or pedestrian of any age should live in 

 9   fear of crossing the street or walking down the 

10   boulevard or strolling along the pathway because 

11   of speeding traffic.

12                You see, Mr. President, today's vote 

13   has been a long time in coming.  The 

14   authorization to renew the speed camera program 

15   expired last year.  And despite the herculean 

16   efforts of the Department of Transportation, the 

17   City of New York, transportation advocates, 

18   families who lost loved ones to traffic violence, 

19   and even some courageous elected officials, the 

20   State Legislature was unable to come to an 

21   agreement to keep this program operational.  

22                Specifically, Mr. President, this 

23   chamber turned its back on the people who walk 

24   and travel the streets of New York City.  In the 

25   face of mountains and mountains of data and reams 


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 1   and reams of reports and story after story after 

 2   story of personal testimonials, this chamber last 

 3   year turned a blind eye and a deaf ear to the 

 4   issue of traffic violence in New York City.  

 5                But not today, Mr. President.  Not 

 6   today.  Today we make good on our promise to 

 7   protect those who are entrusted to our care, and 

 8   we honor the memory of those who lost their 

 9   lives in traffic crashes.  I'm a realist, 

10   Mr. President.  I know that in spite of our 

11   biggest hopes and dreams there is pain in this 

12   world, there's tragedy in this world, there is 

13   sorrow in this world.  And yet I'm also an 

14   optimist.  I know that we can turn pain into 

15   purpose so that some good may come from the bad.  

16                As the Greek poet Aeschylus so 

17   beautifully tells us:  Pain which cannot forget 

18   falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our 

19   own despair, against our will, comes wisdom 

20   through the awful grace of God.

21                Wisdom, Mr. President.  Wisdom.  The 

22   wisdom to understand that despite our deepest 

23   sorrows, tomorrow always dawns a new day.  The 

24   wisdom to accept the tragedy that can befall any 

25   of us, and that we can lighten the burden of our 


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 1   pain by ensuring that others don't have to suffer 

 2   the same fate.  The wisdom to know that we can 

 3   honor the lives and the memories of those we love 

 4   and lost by doing good.

 5                Today we are joined in this chamber 

 6   for this momentous vote by family members of 

 7   those who have died in traffic crashes.  They, 

 8   more than any other experts, analysts or 

 9   advocates, have turned this cause from a debate 

10   about facts and figures into a fight for people's 

11   lives.  It is on the wings of their fallen 

12   angels that the cause of ending pedestrian deaths 

13   has been uplifted.  

14                When these families held a vigil in 

15   memory of their loved ones during last year's 

16   fight to renew this program, they were mocked by 

17   staff members employed by this chamber.  The 

18   candles they placed on the streets to honor their 

19   loved ones were kicked over and smashed.  

20                Where some might consider defeat in 

21   the face of such contempt, these brave families, 

22   fortified by their spirits of their lost angels, 

23   redoubled their commitment to the cause of ending 

24   preventable deaths from speeding traffic.

25                From pain which cannot forget comes 


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 1   wisdom through the grace of God, Mr. President.  

 2   What we are doing today is guided by wisdom.  

 3   Wisdom from those precious angels who sacrificed 

 4   made today possible.  Today our actions are 

 5   guided by those angels.  Today those angels are 

 6   with us as we cast our votes.  Today we affirm 

 7   that those who perished did not die in vain, that 

 8   their loss has led us to a higher good.  That 

 9   this is not just about a speed limit or a camera 

10   or a school zone -- that today is about the 

11   positive affirmation that our streets ought to be 

12   safe for all and will be safe for all.

13                And so, Mr. President, in honor of 

14   Vivian, the aunt that I never met, and in honor 

15   of Sammy and Ida and Ally, Seth, Giovanni, Jamie, 

16   and all those who have died in traffic crashes, I 

17   proudly vote aye and I urge my colleagues to do 

18   the same.

19                Thank you.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

21   Gounardes to be recorded in the affirmative.

22                Senator Kennedy to explain his vote.

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.

25                First of all, let me just start by 


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 1   congratulating Senator Gounardes on passing this 

 2   legislation today.  

 3                You know, there are certain things 

 4   that are emblazoned in our memories down here in 

 5   the Senate.  When I was a freshman Senator, one 

 6   of the first things I did is visited the then 

 7   Transportation Chairman Chuck Fuschillo and say 

 8   "It's so imperative that we pass a ban on texting 

 9   and driving."  He said, We're going to get it 

10   done and we're going to get it done this year, 

11   and we did.  That was back in 2011, driven by 

12   Families Against Texting While Driving.  

13                Another thing that was blazed into 

14   my memory was this year, now as the chairman of 

15   Transportation, on my first day in that role 

16   Senator Gounardes approached me and said, "We 

17   need to get this safety program implemented in 

18   the City of New York to save children's lives.  

19   It's been long-stalled, politics have gotten in 

20   the way, and we cannot allow it to languish any 

21   further."  

22                And so, Senator Gounardes, I 

23   congratulate you on this victory for the people 

24   of the City of New York, for the children, for 

25   the families that have fought so hard for this, 


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 1   for the Families for Safe Streets that stepped up 

 2   and wouldn't take no for an answer.  For parents 

 3   like Amy Cohen, who joined us today in memory of 

 4   her son who was killed in school zone, Sammy 

 5   Eckstein.  

 6                No lives should be lost that are 

 7   preventable, and we are taking steps today to 

 8   prevent lives being lost, injuries taking place.  

 9   And there's no question in my mind by passing 

10   this legislation and legislation that we're going 

11   to be coming back to that will keep kids safe in 

12   the City of Buffalo that I have sponsored, we're 

13   going to do just that.  

14                I applaud you, Senator Gounardes.  

15   Congratulations, and to all the families involved 

16   in their advocacy.  

17                With that, Mr. President, I vote 

18   aye.  

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

20   Kennedy to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                Senator Hoylman to explain his vote.

22                SENATOR HOYLMAN:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.  

24                I rise too to thank the sponsor, 

25   Senator Gounardes, and the Transportation chair, 


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 1   Senator Kennedy, for advancing this bill finally 

 2   to the floor for consideration.

 3                I'm a parent of an 8-year-old at an 

 4   elementary school in Greenwich Village, where 

 5   there is no speed camera.  And under this 

 6   legislation passing today, finally, there will be 

 7   a speed camera outside of P.S. 41 in 

 8   Greenwich Village, Manhattan.  

 9                And me and countless parents like 

10   me, when we walk our children to school in the 

11   morning and pick them up in the evening, we will 

12   have peace of mind with the statistics showing 

13   speed cameras reduce crashes, reduce fatalities, 

14   and make our streets safer.  So thank you.  

15                And to the families who organized 

16   and became activists after having lost loved 

17   ones, I say thank you from my family to yours.  

18   Because of your efforts, we're passing this 

19   legislation today.  And yes, there were many 

20   years where you were frustrated and locked out of 

21   the Senate chamber, where your voices were not 

22   heard.  But as Senator Gounardes said, that 

23   changes today.

24                And to Amy Cohen and her mother Joan 

25   Dean, a constituent of mine, I say thank you as 


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 1   well.  You lost a son and a grandson, but in the 

 2   process you started a movement, and today the 

 3   fruits of your labor are manifest.

 4                I vote aye.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 6   Hoylman to be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                Senator Sepúlveda to explain his 

 8   vote.

 9                SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President, for allowing me to speak.  

11                First of all, I want to send my love 

12   and congratulations to the family members who 

13   have lost children to this problem with speed 

14   cameras throughout the city and the State of 

15   New York.  My heart goes out to each and every 

16   one of you.  You are primarily responsible for 

17   making this happen today.

18                I want to thank our leader,  Senator 

19   Stewart-Cousins, Senator Kennedy, the 

20   Transportation chair.  And I want to especially 

21   thank Senator Gounardes.  It's so refreshing to 

22   have a member from that district in this 

23   community actually stand up for children and put 

24   children first.  You made a promise to the people 

25   in your community, you fought for that promise, 


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 1   and today you made it a reality.  So 

 2   congratulations.

 3                Today we have to make sure that this 

 4   legislation becomes the reality that it will.  We 

 5   must protect our kids from all dangers.  

 6   According to the findings of the New York City 

 7   Department of Transportation, there's been a 

 8   60 percent drop in speeding infractions in 

 9   locations where speed safety cameras have been 

10   installed.

11                Speed safety cameras can propel a 

12   motorist to watch their speed limit if they do 

13   not want a ticket by slowing down their speed in 

14   school zones and preventing any further accidents 

15   involving children.

16                The New York City Department of 

17   Transportation also reports that the risk of 

18   pedestrian deaths at a speed of 20 miles per hour 

19   decreases to 45 percent from the speed of 30 

20   miles per hour, which is a significant safety 

21   measure and a significant safety improvement.

22                Currently only 7 percent of the 

23   New York City schoolchildren go to school with a 

24   speed safety camera nearby.  It is adamant that 

25   we expand this program so that more schools can 


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 1   benefit from the enhanced safety that is 

 2   associated with having speed cameras nearby.

 3                I vote in the affirmative.  Thank 

 4   you.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 6   Sepúlveda to be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                Senator Lanza to explain his vote.

 8                SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.  

10                I'm not going to wax poetic, but I'm 

11   going to talk a little turkey.  Unfortunately, I 

12   can't support this bill in its present form.  

13                I wrote one of the first bills 

14   dealing with speed cameras a number of years ago, 

15   which we were not able to get through the 

16   Assembly and which the city really was not happy 

17   about because that bill would place cameras in 

18   places where we actually knew there was a need 

19   for it, where there were a history of injuries 

20   and accidents.

21                And I know that this bill -- I wish 

22   it were about safety, but I know it's not.  I 

23   hear about the mountains of data.  The only 

24   mountains this will create is the mountains of 

25   cash that the city is looking to take from 


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 1   people.

 2                I know this from experience on 

 3   Staten Island.  If you watch where they put the 

 4   cameras, we have some roads on Staten Island 

 5   which would be considered country roads 

 6   everywhere else in the state -- big, large roads 

 7   in sparsely populated areas.  Where there aren't 

 8   a lot of accidents -- aren't any accidents.  And 

 9   that's precisely where the cameras go.  

10   Because -- oh, and by the way, a couple of years 

11   ago somebody thought, hey, let's go from a 

12   35-mile-an-hour speed limit on these roads, let's 

13   make it 25 miles an hour.  And these set up for 

14   the perfect speed traps.  

15                Remember those old movies where they 

16   portrayed that sheriff down south hiding behind a 

17   billboard?  Well, that's what we have on Staten 

18   Island, where cameras go precisely where they 

19   know they can get money, not where they can 

20   ensure safety.  

21                And by the way, the city has already 

22   come out with its estimate with respect to how 

23   much money it's going to generate.  So they're 

24   counting on the money, they're not counting on 

25   the safety.  You do not generate the hundreds of 


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 1   millions of dollars of revenues that the city is 

 2   counting on unless people are going to ignore the 

 3   cameras and speed through those locations.  In 

 4   fact, we know the few cameras that are already 

 5   out there, they've already generated more than 

 6   $200 million.  Two hundred million dollars 

 7   generated because people said we're going to 

 8   continue to do what we do.  

 9                There are better ways to do it.  If 

10   we really cared about safety and protecting 

11   people around schools, we would pass once again 

12   the bill that I've carried for 10 years here.  I 

13   actually wrote the bill when I was in the City 

14   Council.  The then chairman of the Transportation 

15   Committee, then-Councilman John Liu, now Senator 

16   John Liu, supported it, as well as I think 47 of 

17   my colleagues out of 51 people.  

18                We passed it I think almost 

19   unanimously in this chamber, bipartisan, 

20   Democrat, Republican.  The Assembly said no.  

21   What it does is it creates a real school safety 

22   zone.  It says that we're going to put a stop 

23   sign or a traffic signal at the four corners 

24   surrounding every single school in our city.  

25                You know why the city doesn't want 


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 1   it?  Because they know it's more effective than 

 2   cameras.  They know stop signs slow people down 

 3   more effectively than a camera that no one knows 

 4   is there.  

 5                If this legislation was serious 

 6   about safety, you know what it would require?  A 

 7   sign.  A sign on the road that says there's a 

 8   speed camera coming up.  It may mean less money 

 9   to the City of New York, but I'll tell you what 

10   it does mean.  People will see that sign, and 

11   they'll stop, they'll slow down.  If we really 

12   cared about safety.  

13                I'm going to wrap up, Mr. President.  

14   I didn't want to lay the bill aside to prolong 

15   things today, I wanted to explain my vote, so I'm 

16   going to do that. 

17                If we cared about safety, I think 

18   Senator Kennedy mentioned it, the number-one 

19   killer on our roads today is distracted driving.  

20   Texting while driving is the number-one killer.  

21   This bill does nothing to do that.  

22                So I believe this bill does nothing 

23   but create a false sense of security.  I wish it 

24   would save lives.  I don't think it's going to.  

25   There are better ways to do it.  I think the 


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 1   people I represent back home know that there's 

 2   nothing more -- this is about money and not about 

 3   safety.  

 4                Mr. President, I vote in the 

 5   negative.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 7   Lanza to be recorded in the negative.

 8                Senator Krueger to explain her vote.

 9                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.

11                I rise proudly to support this bill.  

12   I certainly want to thank the lead sponsor, 

13   Andrew Gounardes, for bringing it to us today and 

14   for us passing it.  And I'm glad that Buffalo is 

15   trying the same thing.

16                There is nothing worse than seeing a 

17   parent have to bury their child.  It is the 

18   opposite of everything we know about the cycle of 

19   life when children bury their parents.  Nothing 

20   is worse than a child who dies for no reason 

21   other than going school, being hit by a vehicle.

22                And this bill will save lives.  It 

23   has already saved lives with the existing 

24   program.  I just want to read some statistics 

25   quickly and that might have already been said by 


                                                               1836

 1   some of my colleagues.

 2                Studies based on similar programs 

 3   worldwide show that speed cameras reduce 

 4   fatalities and crash injuries by 30 to 

 5   40 percent.  And an analysis of the Federal 

 6   Highway Administration found that speed cameras 

 7   reduce the likelihood of a crash on urban 

 8   arterial roads by 54 percent.  These are exactly 

 9   the kind of streets we have in Brooklyn, in 

10   Queens, and almost every avenue and cross-town 

11   street in my borough of Manhattan.

12                We know that this works because 

13   we've already been doing it.  And yet we let it 

14   sunset without addressing what we should have 

15   taken clear responsibility for last year.  We 

16   can't move forward quickly enough.  

17                I don't know where other people who 

18   are voting no live.  I know Staten Island; I 

19   don't necessarily know the communities other 

20   legislators who are voting no live in.  But I bet 

21   every single one of you have been to my borough, 

22   Manhattan.  And you know what a crowded street 

23   looks like.  And you know what people standing at 

24   the street corners and children running back and 

25   forth, hopefully following the signs and the 


                                                               1837

 1   instructions, are focused on.  And you know that 

 2   tickets are a deterrence from behavior.  And 

 3   that's what this bill is about.  

 4                Hopefully the City of New York won't 

 5   raise enormous amounts of revenue because people 

 6   will get one ticket or two tickets and then they 

 7   will slow down.  And that's what this is about.  

 8   Because slowing down will save not just 

 9   children's lives, because these are in school 

10   zones, but also senior citizens' lives.  Because 

11   guess what?  They don't run out of the way as 

12   fast as a lot of us can.

13                So even though it's designed for 

14   school zones and protecting the lives of 

15   children, it's protecting the lives of everyone.  

16   I'm so glad that we are passing this today, I 

17   believe in both houses, and it will become law.  

18   It is very important legislation.

19                Thank you, Mr. President.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

21   Krueger to be recorded in the affirmative.

22                Senator Ramos to explain her vote.

23                SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.

25                Miguel Torres, Giovanni Ampuero, 


                                                               1838

 1   Ovidio Jaramillo, Luis Bravo, Jahir Figueroa and 

 2   Noshat Nahian.  Those are the six boys my 

 3   district has lost since 2012 along Northern 

 4   Boulevard, which is in desperate need of a 

 5   redesign.  

 6                Approximately 12,000 children go to 

 7   school on or off Northern Boulevard, and we have 

 8   three more schools coming.  I want to point out 

 9   that the deaths of these children were not 

10   accidents.  And I don't appreciate the use of the 

11   word "accidents" when in reality they are crashes 

12   that could have been prevented.  Most if not all 

13   of these children died because drivers did not 

14   yield to pedestrians when they have the right of 

15   way.

16                And for us it's really important to 

17   have these speed cameras at every single school 

18   as a deterrent.  My children attend P.S. 69 in 

19   Jackson Heights; they're in kindergarten and 

20   second grade.  I often cross Northern Boulevard 

21   with my boys to take them to piano lessons and 

22   the like.  

23                And I can't praise Senator 

24   Gounardes's work enough and thank Senator Kennedy 

25   for his leadership in the Transportation 


                                                               1839

 1   Committee, and all my colleagues who are 

 2   supporting this.  Because in reality, only 

 3   7 percent of children actually attend a school 

 4   with a speed camera right now, and we've actually 

 5   seen fewer crashes and fewer people speeding 

 6   outside of these schools.

 7                So I just want to thank my 

 8   colleagues who will be voting, along with me, aye 

 9   in favor of this bill.  Thank you.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

11   Ramos to be recorded in the affirmative.

12                Senator Stavisky to explain her 

13   vote.

14                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.

16                But thank you to Senator Gounardes, 

17   and especially to the work of the parents and the 

18   advocates.  

19                I was just amazed at what two of my  

20   constituents and their families have been able to 

21   do, and that's Amy Liao and H.P. Liao when their 

22   daughter was hit by a taxi on Main Street in 

23   downtown Flushing.  It was their energy and their 

24   commitment and their understanding of how hard it 

25   was going to be.  And we kept saying there will 


                                                               1840

 1   be success.  

 2                And I remember a night, I think it 

 3   was last year, we were in session, and there was 

 4   Amy Liao in the T-shirt grabbing legislators and 

 5   explaining firsthand why we need the speed 

 6   cameras and the red light cameras.  

 7                So I thank the Liao family and I 

 8   thank my colleagues.  This, I think, will go down 

 9   as a lifesaving measure.

10                Thank you, Mr. President.  I vote 

11   aye.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

13   Stavisky to be recorded in the affirmative.

14                Senator Liu to explain his vote.

15                SENATOR LIU:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.

17                I usually don't explain my vote on 

18   what I consider no-brainers.  But, you know, this 

19   is important legislation.  And my buddy Senator 

20   Lanza decided to wax nostalgic about our City 

21   Council days.  

22                I do want to say that stop signs, 

23   traffic lights and other traffic control devices 

24   are effective.  They work.  They certainly slow 

25   people down as well as control traffic 


                                                               1841

 1   appropriately.  And other signage also helped as 

 2   well.  But they're not the only things.  And 

 3   speed cameras slow drivers down, it is just 

 4   indisputable.

 5                And so this legislation is 

 6   necessary.  I think it was a shame that last year 

 7   this legislation was held up due to petty 

 8   politics.  But I'm very happy, I'm very proud of 

 9   Senator Gounardes.  You know, he could have taken 

10   this bill and passed it immediately in our first 

11   weeks in session, but he took the time -- while 

12   the emergency order still authorized the speed 

13   cameras to be in effect, he took the time, 

14   working with Chair Kennedy, to put together 

15   legislation that will factor in everybody's 

16   concerns appropriately, while never losing sight 

17   of the fact that we need this legislation in 

18   order to save the lives of young children who are 

19   doing nothing except going to school.  That's 

20   what they're doing, they're going to school.  

21                I proudly vote yes for this 

22   legislation.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

24   Liu to be recorded in the affirmative.

25                Senator Biaggi to explain her vote.


                                                               1842

 1                SENATOR BIAGGI:   Thank you, 

 2   Mr. President.

 3                I rise today with pride to vote aye 

 4   for this bill and commend Senator Gounardes for 

 5   his efforts to ensuring that what he promised 

 6   during his campaign came to fruition here in this 

 7   chamber today.

 8                It goes without saying nothing 

 9   should ever stand in the way of the safety of our 

10   children.  And I echo my colleague Senator Liu's 

11   sentiment that this is yet again another example 

12   of how this conference is putting people over 

13   politics to reduce deaths, increase safety, and 

14   ensure that our communities' well-being is put 

15   first.

16                In the effort to be intellectually 

17   honest in this chamber, which I think we all 

18   would agree is a really important value, if you 

19   read the bill, here's what it actually does.  So 

20   it specifically requires the Department of 

21   Transportation to use data analysis based on 

22   traffic speed and traffic crashes.  The existing 

23   program has reduced speeding by 63 percent.  And 

24   moreover, this bill requires the Department of 

25   Transportation to report how much money they make 


                                                               1843

 1   from the program and how much they are 

 2   reinvesting into street safety and pedestrian 

 3   safety improvements.  

 4                That was not to bore people but just 

 5   to make sure that we're sticking to what the bill 

 6   says.

 7                Again, Mr. President, I proudly vote 

 8   aye.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

10   Biaggi to be recorded in the affirmative.

11                Senator Jackson to explain his vote.

12                SENATOR JACKSON:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President and my colleagues.  

14                I rise in order to support my 

15   colleague in this particular bill.  And many of 

16   you know that I was in the City Council of 

17   New York and I chaired the Education Committee 

18   for eight years.  I was the president of a school 

19   board.  So I know about schools and I know about, 

20   you know, children and how they play and how they 

21   chase one another and how they run in the street.  

22   And how people speed.  

23                And I say to you and to any of my 

24   colleagues that think this is about money for the 

25   State of New York or the City of New York, that's 


                                                               1844

 1   not what it's about.  It's about saving lives and 

 2   not injuring children and killing children in 

 3   school districts.

 4                So I wholeheartedly support this 

 5   legislation, knowing that we're going to be 

 6   saving children's lives as a result of this 

 7   particular action.  And if I had my way, it would 

 8   be in front of every school in New York City, not 

 9   just 740.  And in fact we need to deal with that.  

10                And those people that say no, it's 

11   going to be a cash cow for the City of New York, 

12   my colleague Simcha Felder sitting next to me, 

13   who we served in the City Council, we said that 

14   the money should be put in a lockbox and be used 

15   for safety and security around schools.  And 

16   that's what we need to do, that no one can use 

17   the money for anything other than the safety and 

18   security of the children that we represent.

19                So my colleague, I thank you for 

20   putting this forward.  To the families that have 

21   lost someone, we know that your lives have 

22   changed forever, but we're going to take action 

23   in order to save other children's lives in this 

24   process.

25                And I vote aye.


                                                               1845

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 2   Jackson to be recorded in the affirmative.

 3                Senator Flanagan to explain his 

 4   vote.

 5                SENATOR FLANAGAN:   Thank you, 

 6   Mr. President.

 7                I've listened with interest and keen 

 8   intent to everything that was just brought 

 9   forward by my colleagues.  I don't agree with 

10   everything that's been said.  There probably is 

11   no day where anyone will agree with everything 

12   that's said anyway.  

13                Having been involved in these 

14   discussions at regular levels, at a little bit 

15   higher levels, and at the highest levels, I'm 

16   going to just say that I just know Senator Lanza 

17   and the rest of my colleagues care very deeply 

18   about the well-being and safety of children no 

19   matter what the venue.  

20                I'm the father of three children.  

21   My kids are 30, 28 and 25.  They're still my 

22   children.  My daughter is a maven in the New York 

23   City transit system and subways and everything 

24   else.  There isn't a day that goes by when she's 

25   walking or on a subway or on a bus where I'm not 


                                                               1846

 1   worried to death.  And it doesn't have anything 

 2   to do with the fact that she's in the City of 

 3   New York, because she loves it.  And it's a 

 4   fabulous place.  

 5                I worry about my boys.  So as a 

 6   parent, fundamentally, I think we all share the 

 7   same concerns.  

 8                And I do believe that these cameras 

 9   will be a deterrent.  But I also very strongly 

10   believe, very strongly believe and want to 

11   associate myself with the remarks of Senator 

12   Andrew Lanza.  He and I have spent many, many, 

13   many hours talking about issues just like this.  

14   And all he cares about, for everyone in the state 

15   and in the city, is what's the right thing to do.

16                Now, one of my new colleagues got up 

17   and spoke eloquently, and I agree with him to an 

18   extent.  This is about safety, it is about 

19   children, and it is about the well-being of 

20   people all across the State of New York.  But I'm 

21   not dancing around this; this is also about 

22   money.  

23                There were comments made about 

24   safety and security, and we're in the throes of a 

25   budget right now where we're dealing with issues 


                                                               1847

 1   with a prescription drug tax that's not dedicated 

 2   to anything involving treatment.  We're in the 

 3   throes of talking about highways, roads and 

 4   bridges and transit and a dedicated box for that.

 5                I don't know how we can advance 

 6   legislation like this, full well knowing that 

 7   it's going to generate hundreds of millions of 

 8   dollars to the City of New York.  And they have 

 9   no requirement, none -- some lofty words, 

10   perhaps, but no requirement whatsoever to 

11   reinvest dollar for dollar.

12                If this were all even and everything 

13   was being done the right way, in my opinion, the 

14   money that would be generated from this program 

15   should go directly to the things that we've 

16   spoken about -- speed bumps, flashing lights, 

17   beacons, whatever you want to call them.  

18   Reinvest.  And you can write that right into the 

19   legislation.  Don't give the City of New York the 

20   latitude.  They came here asking for support.  

21   It's part of our obligation to keep their feet to 

22   the fire, as we've talked about before.

23                I appreciate the efforts that have 

24   been advanced here, but I'm voting no because 

25   this is hundreds of millions of dollars that the 


                                                               1848

 1   city has no obligation whatsoever to reinvest for 

 2   further safety and protection of New York City 

 3   residents.

 4                Thank you, Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 6   Flanagan to be recorded in the negative.

 7                There is a substitution at the desk.  

 8                The Secretary will read.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   On page 15, Senator 

10   Gounardes moves to discharge, from the Committee 

11   on Transportation, Assembly Bill Number 6449 and 

12   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 4331, 

13   Third Reading Calendar 237.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

15   substitution is so ordered.

16                Announce the results.

17                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18   Calendar Number 237, those Senators recorded in 

19   the negative are Senators Akshar, Amedore, 

20   Antonacci, Felder, Flanagan, Funke, Gallivan, 

21   Jacobs, Jordan, Lanza, LaValle, Ortt, 

22   Ranzenhofer, Robach, Serino, Seward and Tedisco.  

23   Also Senator Boyle.

24                Ayes, 43.  Nays, 18.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 


                                                               1849

 1   bill is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   247, Senate Print 2848, by Senator Breslin, an 

 4   act to amend the Insurance Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 6   the last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:  Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

13   Announce the results.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

16   bill is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   267, Senate Print 55, by Senator Hoylman, an act 

19   to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

21   the last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23   act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

24   shall have become a law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 


                                                               1850

 1   the roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 4   Hoylman to explain his vote.

 5                SENATOR HOYLMAN:   Thank you, 

 6   Mr. President.  

 7                And thanks to my colleagues for 

 8   their support of this legislation and our 

 9   colleague in the Assembly, Assemblywoman Deborah 

10   Glick, for helping me advance this bill.  

11                This legislation is very commonsense 

12   because currently the Alcoholic Beverage Control 

13   Law does not require the State Liquor Authority 

14   to list specifics about licenses.  All that you 

15   are able to discover if you're a member of the 

16   public is the name of the premises, the address, 

17   the name of the principals who control the 

18   license, the type of license it is, when the 

19   license holder received the license and the dates 

20   when it was last renewed and whether it is active 

21   or inactive.

22                But key aspects of that license, key 

23   aspects to members of my community and presumably 

24   yours, such as the hours of operation, the size 

25   of the premises and whether any special 


                                                               1851

 1   conditions on the license holder have been 

 2   imposed are omitted.

 3                So if you're a member of the public 

 4   in my community, which has a multitude of SLA 

 5   licenses, and you go to the public information 

 6   database, you have no information about whether 

 7   there is live music permitted or whether there is 

 8   an outdoor patio permitted.  In order to get that 

 9   information, you actually have to file a Freedom 

10   of Information Law request.  

11                It shouldn't be that way.  It 

12   shouldn't be that difficult to find out whether 

13   the noisy bar down the street is acting within 

14   the parameters of the SLA license.  

15                And worse, Mr. President, even our 

16   local police precincts do not have access to that 

17   information.

18                So this legislation, which I'm so 

19   pleased is on the floor today, will require that 

20   the public license query database include that 

21   pertinent information of a license.  So I vote 

22   aye on behalf of my community.  

23                Thank you, Mr. President.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

25   Hoylman to be recorded in the affirmative.  


                                                               1852

 1                Announce the results.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3   Calendar Number 267, those Senators recorded in 

 4   the negative are Senators Akshar, Antonacci, 

 5   Griffo, Jordan and Ortt.  Also Senator Little, 

 6   Senator Ritchie, Senator Amedore, Senator Seward 

 7   and Senator Robach.

 8                Ayes, 51.  Nays, 10.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   bill is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   273, Assembly Bill 2221, substituted earlier by 

13   Assemblymember Schimminger, an act to amend 

14   Chapter 396 of the Laws of 2010.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

16   the last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

20   the roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

23   Announce the results.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 


                                                               1853

 1   bill is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   286, Senate Print 3444, by Senator Harckham, an 

 4   act to amend the Executive Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 6   the last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

10   the roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

13   Helming to explain her vote.

14                SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.  I rise to explain my vote.

16                As the ranker on the Commerce, 

17   Economic Development and Small Business Committee 

18   and also the ranker on the Legislative Commission 

19   on Rural Resources, I want to thank Senator 

20   Harckham for advocating for our inland waterways.  

21                Our inland lakes are economic 

22   drivers for New York State.  Many of these water 

23   bodies, including the Finger Lakes, also provide 

24   safe drinking water for hundreds of thousands of 

25   residents, visitors and small businesses.  We 


                                                               1854

 1   must protect our lakes for their economic and 

 2   environmental impacts.  

 3                That's why I'm imploring the 

 4   Majority to bring to the floor and pass another 

 5   bill related to inland waterways:  Senate Bill 

 6   Number 2270.  This bill creates the Finger Lakes 

 7   Community Preservation Act.  It will protect the 

 8   Finger Lakes from the potential pollution 

 9   associated with the construction of new trash 

10   burners.  This bill passed our house unanimously 

11   last year, and it never got taken up by the 

12   Assembly.  But I'm proud to report that just last 

13   week, the Assembly picked it up and passed it 

14   unanimously.  

15                So again, I'm urging the Majority to 

16   protect our Finger Lakes as well, to pick up this 

17   bill and let's get it passed, get it on the desk 

18   of the Governor to get it signed sooner rather 

19   than later.  

20                I vote yes, Mr. President.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

22   Helming to be recorded in the affirmative.

23                Senator Harckham to explain his 

24   vote.

25                SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you, 


                                                               1855

 1   Mr. President.

 2                First I'd like to thank Senator 

 3   Helming for her support of this and just say that 

 4   this may not rise to the level of life and death 

 5   as some of the bills we've discussed here today, 

 6   but it does impact the water quality for some 

 7   8 million residents in New York City and 

 8   Westchester County.  

 9                First, I want to thank 

10   Senator Krueger for expediting this, and 

11   certainly colleagues who have been here in the 

12   past for establishing the inland waterways and 

13   coastal waterways program.  Many of you were 

14   here, you established it, you continually have 

15   added water bodies to it.  And this is simply 

16   adding three more.  

17                There are three more in the Muscoot 

18   Watershed, which is in the Croton Watershed, 

19   which is part of the New York City water supply.  

20                The reason this is important is that 

21   it allows them to access funding to address their 

22   phosphorus reduction needs.  They exceed their 

23   total maximum daily load for phosphorus, which as 

24   we know causes eutrophication, which is toxic to 

25   drink and very expensive to clean up.


                                                               1856

 1                When people in my area talk about 

 2   unfunded mandates, this is the mother of all 

 3   unfunded mandates.  When this TMDL came down as 

 4   part of the MS4, these small communities were 

 5   handed a $500 million bill to remove phosphorus.  

 6   So that's an aside that we can talk about at 

 7   another time.  

 8                But this is crucial, this bill 

 9   today, to allow them to access the Environmental 

10   Protection Fund, East of Hudson funds and others, 

11   to help with the remediation efforts.

12                So I thank my colleagues and I vote 

13   aye.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

15   Harckham to be recorded in the affirmative.

16                Announce the results.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

19   bill is passed.

20                Senator Gianaris.

21                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

22   the bill that we just passed was Senator 

23   Harckham's first in the State Senate.  

24                (Standing ovation.)

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 


                                                               1857

 1   Gianaris, that completes the reading of today's 

 2   noncontroversial calendar.

 3                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.  

 5                Can we call on Senator Kaplan for an 

 6   introduction, please.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 8   Kaplan.

 9                SENATOR KAPLAN:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.  

11                It is my great privilege this 

12   afternoon to welcome several distinguished guests 

13   to the Senate chamber.  Joining us today we have 

14   several individuals who have traveled to Albany 

15   to raise awareness of and give voice to those 

16   touched by nephrotic syndrome, FSGS, and chronic 

17   kidney disease.

18                Each year 8,000 Americans are 

19   diagnosed with nephrotic syndrome, contributing 

20   to the millions currently living with some form 

21   of chronic kidney disease.  Nephrotic syndrome 

22   can be caused by a variety of forms of kidney 

23   damage and can have lifelong consequences for the 

24   person affected by it, including multiple 

25   hospitalizations, a rigorous medical routine, the 


                                                               1858

 1   need for a kidney transplant and, sadly, even 

 2   death.

 3                Our guests are here today to share 

 4   their stories in order to raise awareness of this 

 5   devastating medical condition so that we all can 

 6   do more to direct needed attention and resources 

 7   toward finding better treatments and ultimately a 

 8   cure.

 9                With that, please join me in 

10   extending a warm welcome to Marlene, Anthony and 

11   Jacqueline Botta; Chrissie, Kathy, Jamie and Ryan 

12   Franceschini; Erika and Elijah Bonatti; Ray, 

13   Karen, Ray Jr. and Kathrine Grech.  

14                Thank you.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Thank 

16   you, Senator Kaplan.  

17                To our guests, we extend our welcome 

18   and the privileges and courtesies of this house.  

19   Please rise and be recognized.

20                (Standing ovation.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

22   Gianaris.

23                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

24   can we now return back to motions and resolutions 

25   and begin with previously adopted Resolution 635, 


                                                               1859

 1   by Senator Stavisky, read its title only, and 

 2   call on Senator Stavisky, please.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Motions 

 4   and resolutions.  

 5                The Secretary will read.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

 7   Number 635, by Senator Stavisky, memorializing 

 8   Governor Andrew M. Cuomo to proclaim March 19, 

 9   2019, as Queens Day in the State of New York.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

11   Stavisky on the resolution.

12                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.

14                And we welcome some other colleagues 

15   from Queens:  The borough president of Queens, 

16   Melinda Katz, former Assemblymember.  

17                (Applause.)

18                SENATOR STAVISKY:   And to her right 

19   is the deputy borough president, Sharon Lee.

20                (Applause.)

21                SENATOR STAVISKY:   And to her left 

22   is the chairperson of the Queens Chamber of 

23   Commerce, Thomas Santucci.

24                (Applause.)

25                SENATOR STAVISKY:   And some of you 


                                                               1860

 1   may remember him as a young man when his father, 

 2   John Santucci, served in this chamber from 1968 

 3   until 1976.  Welcome back.

 4                And to his left is Tom Grech, the 

 5   president and CEO of the Queens Chamber of 

 6   Commerce.  

 7                (Applause.)

 8                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Mr. President, I 

 9   am a Queens resident by choice, not by birth.  

10                And Queens is absolutely the most 

11   diverse, the most culturally different borough in 

12   the City of New York.  It is many things.  It's a 

13   city -- a town, rather, a county, whatever you 

14   want to call it, of 2.3 million people.  We speak 

15   138 languages.  We come from 150 different 

16   countries.  And it is the largest of the five 

17   counties in the City of New York.

18                When you see somebody from Queens 

19   and you say to them, Where are you from, they're 

20   not going to say Queens.  They're going to say 

21   Long Island City, they're going to say Astoria, 

22   they're going to say Maspeth, Jamaica, Flushing, 

23   Forest Hills, whatever.  And those are the post 

24   office designations as well.

25                So we represent neighborhoods.  We 


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 1   are also the home to two of the three major 

 2   airports in the City of New York.  So newcomers 

 3   come first to Queens, they land in Queens -- 

 4   hopefully many of them will stay, and others will 

 5   go on to the other parts of our country.

 6                We are a tourist destination where 

 7   they come to Queens to see our galleries, our 

 8   museums, they come for the sporting events, for 

 9   the New York Mets and for the U.S. Tennis matches 

10   in the fall.  They come to see our movie studios 

11   and our TV studios.  Kaufman Astoria Studios and 

12   Silvercup film many of the movies but 

13   particularly the television episodes for many of 

14   the cable as well as other broadcast stations.  

15                We in Queens can satisfy any 

16   culinary desire.  We have restaurants from all 

17   over the world.  Borough President Katz's 

18   predecessor Helen Marshall used to say "Come to 

19   Queens and see the world," and you can certainly 

20   find something to eat to satisfy every taste.

21                We have institutions of higher 

22   education:  Queens College, Queensborough, 

23   LaGuardia, York, St. John's.  We have all kinds 

24   of higher educational -- world-renowned 

25   institutions of higher education.


                                                               1862

 1                And we have Resorts World, if you 

 2   have a little extra money to spend.  We have 

 3   Aqueduct, if you want to come and watch the 

 4   horses.  We have something to satisfy everybody's 

 5   taste.  

 6                But most importantly, we are a 

 7   borough of businesses, of local businesses.  And 

 8   in fact two-thirds of the businesses employ 

 9   between one and four people, and 90 percent 

10   employ 10 or fewer people.  And that's why we as 

11   a conference try to reduce taxes, because we want 

12   business to stay.  We are a welcoming community 

13   for certainly businesses.  

14                But the most important thing I can 

15   say about Queens is that we are diverse, we come 

16   from all over the world, but we speak with one 

17   voice.  We get along.  If you notice, the Queens 

18   delegation is very cohesive here.  We work 

19   together with our partners in the Assembly and 

20   our partners in business.  

21                And we welcome the Queens Chamber of 

22   Commerce, and we invite to the Hart Lounge, 5:30 

23   this evening.  Between 5:30 and 7:30 we have over 

24   50 businesses providing food -- businesses, I was 

25   told and -- I think the word that was used was 


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 1   distilleries.  Whatever that means.  

 2                (Laughter.)

 3                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Come, enjoy, and 

 4   come again to visit.

 5                Thank you, Mr. President.

 6                (Applause.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 8   Gianaris on the resolution.

 9                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.

11                Unlike Senator Stavisky, I am a 

12   Queens resident by birth as well as by choice.  

13   And the choice was that that my parents made when 

14   they emigrated to the United States.  Like so 

15   many other residents of Queens, they decided that 

16   was the perfect place to make their home.  

17                And now, decades later, they are 

18   still there, as are so many immigrant families, 

19   living out the American dream of a middle class, 

20   a working class, a success story, where their 

21   kids were able to go to school, get educated, and 

22   now represent them in this esteemed body as well.

23                Senator Stavisky mentioned so many 

24   of the things that make Queens special.  She 

25   forgot to mention the two airports, which is 


                                                               1864

 1   where so many people see as the gateway both to 

 2   New York and the country, and they are both in 

 3   the process of actually being renovated to 

 4   present a better face for our city and our state 

 5   to those from all over the world who come to 

 6   visit.  

 7                And I could not be prouder to be 

 8   a resident and to represent a county that is 

 9   represented by our esteemed borough president, 

10   Melinda Katz, who's with us today -- we welcome 

11   her back to the State Capitol where she spent so 

12   many years in public service -- and to represent 

13   the type of people and the type of values, of 

14   passing on to the next generation something 

15   better than they had for themselves, because that 

16   is what Queens represents to me.  

17                In addition to the great food and 

18   the great entertainment and the great sports and 

19   everything else that happens there, the best 

20   thing about Queens is that it is filled with 

21   people that care more about others than they do 

22   about themselves.  And for that reason, I am 

23   incredibly proud and honored.  

24                And I do want to welcome all the 

25   great Queensites who came up today.  I met with a 


                                                               1865

 1   group in my office earlier today.  I know they've 

 2   been doing their good work telling us what's 

 3   important to them, for their communities, and we 

 4   do look forward to seeing them at the reception a 

 5   little bit later tonight.  

 6                Thank you, Mr. President.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 8   Addabbo on the resolution.

 9                SENATOR ADDABBO:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.  Good afternoon.  

11                I want to thank Senator Stavisky for 

12   introducing this resolution.  I am also thankful 

13   that I get to call Queens my home my whole life.  

14   Thankful also that my parents wound up there, 

15   like Senator Gianaris's parents wound up there -- 

16   my mom via Brooklyn, so a shout-out to my 

17   Brooklyn friends.  

18                But my dad -- in his whole life, my 

19   dad moved five times his whole life, all within a 

20   radius of one mile within Ozone Park, the town 

21   within Queens.  So he must have really loved 

22   Queens.  And I'm thankful for that, because I get 

23   to raise my family there now as well.

24                But it's also the fact not only that 

25   we live in Queens and we're part of it, but I'm 


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 1   thankful that the people of my district gave me 

 2   the opportunity to serve the people of Queens.  

 3   And that through that opportunity I get a great 

 4   chance to work with great people who are sitting 

 5   in the gallery -- our borough president, the 

 6   Chamber and the businesses, our community 

 7   leaders, the community board, residents.  A great 

 8   opportunity to really shape the borough going 

 9   forward.  The most diverse borough in the world, 

10   we get to work with everybody to make sure that 

11   the future of our borough is bright.  And that we 

12   get to shape the direction in which we go as we 

13   go forward.

14                I am grateful for that opportunity.  

15   It's an honor and it's a privilege.  So on this 

16   Queens Day, I really wanted to say thank you to 

17   the borough, the borough that I called home for 

18   my whole life, the borough that I raised my 

19   family in and has given me a great opportunity to 

20   be a public servant there.  

21                Hope to see you all later.  Thank 

22   you very much, Mr. President.

23                (Applause from gallery.)  

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

25   Comrie on the resolution.


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 1                SENATOR COMRIE:   Thank you, 

 2   Mr. President.

 3                I rise to thank the Senate dean of 

 4   the Queens delegation, Senator Toby Stavisky, for 

 5   carrying this resolution and to speak on a 

 6   borough that I'm so proud to call home.  My 

 7   parents also chose Queens.  And I have been 

 8   fortunate that I have lived in the district that 

 9   I now represent my entire life.

10                I am also thankful to be the 

11   representative for the 14th Senate District.  I 

12   am thankful to my constituents that called me 

13   back into public service.  As I had shared with 

14   you before, I was in the City Council for 

15   12 years with many of the members in this room.  

16   And now that I'm here in Albany, working with all 

17   of the Senators to try to make sure that we 

18   deliver opportunities for people all over the 

19   state.  I can say that, you know, going around 

20   the state with Senator Kennedy has been very 

21   eye-opening and has been very illuminating.  But 

22   I'm proud to call Queens home.  

23                You know, I'm proud to say that I'm 

24   from Queens.  I'm proud to be part of one of the 

25   most diverse communities in the country if not 


                                                               1868

 1   the world.  I'm proud to have been -- to do the 

 2   things that I've done to be able to get to this 

 3   point and this time.

 4                Today we're here to celebrate 

 5   Queens.  We hope that you all come to the Hart 

 6   Lounge later to see the different venues that 

 7   have come, to see the distilleries, to see the 

 8   food, to see the vendors, but also to talk to our 

 9   Queens residents, many of whom are up here, about 

10   their passions.  

11                Queens is driven by small 

12   businesses, people that are trying to make sure 

13   that they can work, that they can support 

14   Manhattan businesses and Manhattan institutions.  

15   And they're concerned about how that cost and 

16   that ability to access Manhattan is going to 

17   affect them.  And they're going to talk to you 

18   about that today.  

19                Queens businesses are also going to 

20   talk to you about the need to make sure that they 

21   have an opportunity to participate in all parts 

22   of the State Budget, and I hope that you take the 

23   chance to listen to them as well.

24                You know, Queens is truly not just 

25   2.3 million residents and growing, Queens is, as 


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 1   I say in my meetings many times, the best of the 

 2   better boroughs, the best of the other boroughs.  

 3   And I'm going to now get some -- a little bit of 

 4   push-back from my fellow colleagues but, you 

 5   know, Queens is truly the best borough in the 

 6   city.  Because of the geographics that we have, 

 7   because of the ability of Queens to move into so 

 8   many different areas, because of the ability of 

 9   Queens to -- even though they claim hip-hop was 

10   started in the Bronx, it was perfected in Queens.  

11                (Laughter; applause.)

12                SENATOR COMRIE:   I'm just starting 

13   all kinds of trouble with my colleagues.  So I'm 

14   just having a little fun with my colleagues.  I 

15   know I'm going to catch it later.  But, you know, 

16   I can say that I'm very, very proud of my 

17   borough --

18                SENATOR RIVERA:   That's two 

19   minutes, sir.  Two minutes.

20                SENATOR COMRIE:   My two minutes are 

21   not up.  And I'd put my crew up against your crew 

22   any day.  

23                (Laughter.)

24                SENATOR COMRIE:   So -- but the 

25   greatest attribute of the borough, though, is 


                                                               1870

 1   that we stay united together in the tough times.  

 2   We work every day in the trenches to make sure 

 3   that our collective lives are better.  Because we 

 4   truly have been fighting to make sure that we do 

 5   the things necessary to improve our 

 6   infrastructure, to build more schools, to have 

 7   better and diversify and improve our hospitals, 

 8   which are -- we have the lowest amount of 

 9   hospital beds for any borough in the city.  And 

10   that we need to get the transportation equity 

11   that our members and our residents deserve.

12                So I'm here today to say that I'm 

13   proud to be from Queens, I'm proud to represent a 

14   borough that has such diversity, such talent and 

15   such entrepreneurial spirit.  And I want to thank 

16   all of you that came up on the buses today.  I 

17   want to thank all of you that stopped by my 

18   office.  I want to thank all the Queens residents 

19   that continually keep me on my point, keep me at 

20   the top of my game so that I can be a good public 

21   servant.  

22                Thank you, Mr. President.

23                (Enthusiastic applause.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

25   Sanders on the resolution.


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 1                SENATOR SANDERS:   Thank you, 

 2   Mr. President.

 3                Mr. President, I want to commend 

 4   Senator Stavisky for this resolution.  Such 

 5   apropos, such timeliness.  It just shows her 

 6   great wisdom.  

 7                Mr. President, I felt good this 

 8   morning.  I woke up with a better spring in my 

 9   step.  It was warmer outside.  And I was trying 

10   to figure out what -- why do we feel so good?  

11   Then it dawned on me:  It was Queens Day up 

12   here --

13                (Applause from galleries.)

14                SENATOR SANDERS:   -- and it was 

15   clear.  

16                Having been born and raised in 

17   Queens, what a blessing that I've had to serve in 

18   many different places.  I want to commend our 

19   borough president, who is no stranger to these 

20   chambers.  In fact, I saw some of your carving in 

21   one of these desks, Madam Borough President.  

22                I want to commend the Chamber of 

23   Commerce.  I'm sure that we have some business 

24   that we need to take care of up here, and I'm 

25   clear that we need to bring some stuff home.  But 


                                                               1872

 1   I believe that you're getting a new opening, the 

 2   ear of these people, you're being heard.  

 3                You see, my friends, by the powers 

 4   vested in me, you are all, for one day, members 

 5   of Queens.

 6                (Laughter.)

 7                SENATOR SANDERS:   One day.  If you 

 8   want more than that, you'll have to move in.  

 9   You'll have to come.  

10                But you can get a taste of that this 

11   evening at 5 o'clock when you come.  You can get 

12   just a glimpse of the joy of living in Queens.  

13   You see, in Queens you'll be treated like a king.  

14                (Laughter.)

15                SENATOR SANDERS:   Now, it's true 

16   that the Bronx has their symbol, Manhattan has 

17   Manhattan. 

18                (Laughter.)

19                SENATOR SANDERS:   I'm sure there's 

20   a lot of things all over.  We in Queens, the 

21   chamber and the borough president, we have to 

22   come up with our own symbol.  Bronx has theirs.  

23   We've been working on it.  It's a work in 

24   progress.

25                My friends, I am really glad to be 


                                                               1873

 1   from Queens, and I'm glad all of you today are 

 2   from Queens.  And we can prove it when you come 

 3   to Queens Day tonight, where you don't need a 

 4   passport, come on in.  The borough president and 

 5   the chamber, it's on them tonight.  How's that?  

 6   Drinks are on me.  

 7                Thank you, Mr. President.

 8                (Applause from galleries.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

10   Liu on the resolution.

11                SENATOR LIU:   I guess everybody has 

12   to speak on this.  

13                I am proud to be from Queens.  I 

14   can't claim to be native-born like Senator 

15   Sanders or Senator Addabbo or Senator Gianaris.  

16   I'm an immigrant to Queens, like Senator Stavisky 

17   and Senator Comrie, I being from Taiwan, Senator 

18   Comrie being an immigrant Jamaica, and Senator 

19   Stavisky hailing from the Bronx.  

20                You can travel the world in Queens 

21   without ever having to leave the borough.  And so 

22   I think that's the best part of it.  

23                I want to take a moment to thank our 

24   borough president, the Queen of Queens, Melinda 

25   Katz.  Thank you for joining us.


                                                               1874

 1                (Applause.)

 2                SENATOR LIU:   A shout-out also to 

 3   the Deputy Queen of Queens, Sharon Lee.

 4                (Applause.)

 5                SENATOR LIU:   And with that, I 

 6   proudly support this resolution.  See you at 

 7   Queens Day.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 9   Savino on the resolution.

10                SENATOR SAVINO:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.

12                So it's interesting, I'm a 

13   representative from Staten Island and South 

14   Brooklyn.  I am an expat, though, when it comes 

15   to Queens.  I was born and raised in Queens.  I'm 

16   a Queens girl.  Born and raised -- actually born 

17   in what was Booth Memorial Hospital, raised in 

18   Astoria, lived in Jackson Heights.  And it broke 

19   my heart to leave Astoria, but then it took me on 

20   a journey to Staten Island, where I've been proud 

21   to be a Staten Island resident for the past 

22   18 years.  

23                And I would say that Staten Island 

24   is the Queens that I grew up in.  And for those 

25   of you who have spent some time in Staten Island 


                                                               1875

 1   that are Queens natives, you know exactly what 

 2   I'm talking about.  We are kindred boroughs.  And 

 3   I believe it was my upbringing in Queens that 

 4   made me who I am and made me the commonsense 

 5   elected official that Staten Island demanded.  

 6                And so I love Queens so much that 

 7   even though none of the rest of my family is 

 8   there anymore -- my parents have passed away, my 

 9   grandparents have gone on, and my sister now 

10   lives with me -- I feel compelled to go back as 

11   often as I can.  I go back to get my nails done 

12   every two weeks in Queens, even though we have 

13   enough places to go in Staten Island.  

14                I go back to eat regularly.  Because 

15   you're right, Senator Stavisky and Senator 

16   Comrie, you can't beat the food in Queens.  We 

17   have great pizza in Staten Island and great 

18   Italian food, but we don't have the kind of Greek 

19   food or Asian food or Latino food.  We just don't 

20   have it yet in Staten Island.  And maybe one day 

21   we'll get it there.  

22                But Queens has so much to offer in 

23   so many ways.  And no matter how many years go 

24   past, I will always be happy and proud to be a 

25   girl from Queens.  


                                                               1876

 1                Thank you, Mr. President.

 2                (Applause.)

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 4   Bailey on the resolution.

 5                (Reaction from Senators.)

 6                SENATOR BAILEY:   Well, 

 7   Mr. President -- Mr. President.  I wasn't going 

 8   to say anything, but my esteemed colleague Leroy 

 9   Comrie had to open the door.  

10                (Laughter.)

11                SENATOR BAILEY:   KRS-One famously 

12   said:  Manhattan keeps on making it, Brooklyn 

13   keeps on taking it, Bronx keeps creating it, and 

14   Queens keeps on faking it.  

15                (Boos, laughter, general uproar.)

16                SENATOR BAILEY:   The bridge is 

17   over, the bridge is over.

18                (Overtalk, cries of "Out of order.")

19                SENATOR BAILEY:   I'm quoting the 

20   great KRS-One.  

21                But what Queens does not fake, in 

22   all seriousness, is a great diversity, 

23   Mr. President.  Queens is an outstanding borough 

24   full of amazing people, diverse culture, great 

25   baseball teams, Mr. President.  Yes, I said great 


                                                               1877

 1   baseball teams.  

 2                (Laughter.)

 3                SENATOR BAILEY:   I love the 

 4   New York Mets.  I love Queens.  I met my wife in 

 5   Queens.  So I owe a lot to Queens.  I am 

 6   appreciative of the diversity and culture that we 

 7   have in this borough.  

 8                And anywhere you go in Queens, as 

 9   said by Senator Savino, you can get a great meal.  

10   And I love food, Mr. President.  You can tell by 

11   the, well, sophomore 15 that I've gained.  I do 

12   love myself some good food.  And I'm looking 

13   forward to the Hart Lounge today, Senator 

14   Stavisky, and I thank you for your leadership in 

15   sponsoring this resolution.  

16                And I thank all of my colleagues 

17   from Queens.  And no matter where you are from, 

18   you know, it's important to make sure that -- we 

19   laugh and we joke, but we're all one family.  And 

20   whether it be New York State, New York City, 

21   we're all one family in this chamber.  And I 

22   wanted to start on a jovial note, but I wanted to 

23   end on a positive one.  

24                Madam Borough President, thank you 

25   for your leadership in Queens.  We appreciate 


                                                               1878

 1   what you've done in steering the ship in a very 

 2   diverse borough.  

 3                And, you know, in the interests of 

 4   time and in the interests of the Bronx, I'll save 

 5   the rest of my hip-hop comments for Bronx Day.

 6                (Laughter.)

 7                SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

10   Rivera on the resolution.

11                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.  

13                Now, as our friend Senator Bailey 

14   said, we were not going to say anything, but then 

15   home boy over here had to bring it.

16                (Laughter.)

17                SENATOR RIVERA:   Now, Queens is a 

18   nice enough place.  It is -- I've met many good 

19   people from Queens.  Some of my best friends are 

20   from Queens.  

21                But I do have to tell you, I am -- 

22   do you know how many Valentine Avenues there are 

23   in the Bronx?  One.  Do you know how many 

24   187th Streets there are in the Bronx?  One.

25                (Laughter.)


                                                               1879

 1                SENATOR RIVERA:   You have done a 

 2   very good job of having a magnificent place over 

 3   there in Queens.  You've done a great thing to 

 4   have this place that you have over there.  And 

 5   keeping us out of it is very easy, because when 

 6   we can't find our way between a Street, a Lane, a 

 7   Court, a Square, an Avenue -- am I missing 

 8   anything?  I don't -- Boulevard, thank you, and 

 9   Drive.  There you go.  

10                (Laughter; overtalk.)

11                SENATOR RIVERA:   So in all 

12   seriousness -- in all seriousness, Mr. President, 

13   I do celebrate Queens.  I have been very happy to 

14   get to know the borough a little bit better by 

15   having my colleagues right next to me; I'm kind 

16   of surrounded, by them over here, by Queens.  

17                And it is, one, an incredibly 

18   diverse place.  I've had the honor of visiting 

19   more than a couple of times to learn more about 

20   Greek food.  My good friend Mike Gianaris has 

21   taught me a little bit about that.  And I've 

22   traveled down there to talk to Senator Liu when 

23   he wasn't a Senator yet, when he was thinking 

24   about doing that.  And I've done a lot of 

25   traveling around Queens, and I'm very happy to 


                                                               1880

 1   celebrate it today.

 2                But once again, you've done a great 

 3   job of keeping folks that just want -- I just 

 4   want to be -- I got one 187th Street, that's the 

 5   one I got.  That's the one I'm gonna be on.  But 

 6   y'all got the Squares, the Lanes and everything 

 7   else; y'all can keep them.  I'm going to stay in 

 8   the Bronx.  God bless Queens, but God bless the 

 9   Bronx as well.  

10                Thank you, Mr. President.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

12   Ramos on the resolution.

13                SENATOR RAMOS:   In what's probably 

14   the first time that Mobb Deep has been quoted on 

15   the Senate floor:  "Queens is the realness and 

16   foundation, and if I die, I couldn't choose a 

17   better location."

18                (Laughter.)

19                SENATOR RAMOS:   Look, everybody 

20   praises our food and the diversity of our people.  

21   And it's true, I represent the most diverse 

22   district.  I often say we speak more than 160 

23   languages.  We have people from all over the 

24   world who love all different types of people, who 

25   identify as different types of people.  It's a 


                                                               1881

 1   great thing.  

 2                And the reason we are able to enjoy 

 3   all of that diversity and all of our parades is 

 4   because we've actively worked to produce a 

 5   community that is welcoming of everybody.  So if 

 6   other boroughs or other parts of this state are 

 7   interested in having that diversity, of enjoying 

 8   that diversity, it's about really building 

 9   community, talking to your neighbors and 

10   realizing that we are much more the same than 

11   different, that we have many more of the same 

12   needs than not.  That we're looking to thrive, no 

13   matter who we are, and that we all do better when 

14   we all do better.  It's actually much more 

15   productive to uplift each other than it is to 

16   divide and keep everybody else down.

17                So I just want to say I'm very proud 

18   to have been born in Elmhurst, raised in Astoria, 

19   I've lived in Corona, in East Elmhurst and in 

20   Jackson Heights today, in every single 

21   neighborhood in my beautiful district.  I 

22   couldn't be prouder to be a Queens woman and to 

23   be supporting this resolution.

24                Thank you.

25                (Applause from audience)


                                                               1882

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 2   Thomas on the resolution.

 3                SENATOR THOMAS:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.

 5                When I immigrated to this country, I 

 6   lived in Queens with my family -- Jamaica 

 7   Estates, specifically.  And I went to public 

 8   school in Queens, went to Thomas Edison High 

 9   School, went to St. John's University.  And I 

10   love the diversity of Queens.  

11                Queens, just like Senator Ramos 

12   talked about, has over 160 different languages.  

13   The food is great, the diversity is amazing, and 

14   it's just an amazing place to be.

15                But since I am a Senator from 

16   Long Island, I have to basically say Brooklyn and 

17   Queens are on Long Island, so this is all about 

18   Long Island.  

19                (Laughter.)

20                SENATOR THOMAS:   Happy Queens Day, 

21   and I'm looking forward to all the great events 

22   that we have for Long Island today.  

23                (Laughter.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

25   resolution was previously adopted on March 12th.  


                                                               1883

 1                Madam Borough President, while my 

 2   parents live in Queens, and I love the Yankees, 

 3   we all know Manhattan is the best borough.  

 4                (Groans; boos; laughter.)  

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   I'm 

 6   just saying.  I'm just saying.

 7                Senator Gianaris.

 8                SENATOR GIANARIS:   What the -- 

 9   okay.  

10                (Laughter.)

11                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

12   can we now take up Resolution 687, by 

13   Senator May, take it up in its entirety, and call 

14   on Senator May.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

16   Secretary will read.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

18   Number 687, by Senator May, congratulating the  

19   Syracuse Cougars Boys Ice Hockey Team upon the 

20   occasion of capturing the 2019 Division 1 

21   NYSPHSAA Ice Hockey Championship on March 10, 

22   2019.  

23                "WHEREAS, Individual and team 

24   championships are highly sought after in high 

25   school sports; this Legislative Body commends 


                                                               1884

 1   rare athletic achievements and pays special  

 2   recognition to those who pursue such excellence 

 3   and become examples for the youth of this great 

 4   Empire State; and 

 5                "WHEREAS, Athletic competition helps 

 6   to enhance both the moral and physical 

 7   development of young athletes, preparing them for 

 8   the future by instilling in them the importance 

 9   of teamwork, encouraging a standard of healthy 

10   living, and developing a sense of fair play and 

11   competition; and 

12                "WHEREAS, The Syracuse Cougars is a 

13   team made up of players from the four Syracuse 

14   City School District high schools, helping to 

15   unite our community; and 

16                "WHEREAS, This Legislative Body is 

17   justly proud to congratulate the Syracuse Cougars 

18   Boys Ice Hockey Team upon the occasion of 

19   capturing the 2019 Division-1 NYSPHSAA Ice Hockey  

20   Championship; to the praise and applause of their 

21   excited fans, the Cougars defeated Suffern High 

22   School in a decisive 4-2 victory to win the 

23   championship on Sunday, March 10, 2019, at the 

24   Harbor Center in Buffalo, New York; and 

25                "WHEREAS, Proudly donning their 


                                                               1885

 1   black uniforms, family, friends, and the 

 2   community at large loyally and enthusiastically  

 3   supported the Cougars throughout their journey as 

 4   they ended their season with an impressive 

 5   undefeated 12-0 record; and 

 6                "WHEREAS, In a sport such as ice 

 7   hockey, which demands athletic prowess, speed and  

 8   agility, Head Coach John Purcell and Assistant 

 9   Coaches Charlie May, Neal Purcell, Ron Scott, and 

10   Walt Eccles worked hard to hone the skills of 

11   this championship team, teaching these 

12   outstanding athletes lessons which will prove 

13   invaluable both on and off the ice; and 

14                "WHEREAS, Head Coach John Purcell 

15   and all of the outstanding athletes on the 

16   Syracuse Cougars Boys Ice Hockey Team have 

17   clearly utilized dedication, determination and 

18   teamwork in providing a lasting contribution to 

19   the spirit of excellence which is a tradition of 

20   their schools; now, therefore, be it 

21                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

22   Body pause in its deliberations to congratulate 

23   the members of the Syracuse Cougars Boys Ice 

24   Hockey Team:  Emmett Barry, Kaleb Benedict, Evan 

25   Carter, Andrew Corning, Zach Delaney, Ryan 


                                                               1886

 1   Durand, Ryan Eccles, Mack Etoll, Nathan Frye, 

 2   Aidan Griffin, Jack Grooms, Nelson Jones, Kyle 

 3   Lamson, CJ Malone, Stephan Matro, Alex Moreno, 

 4   Skariwate Papineau, Ethan Petty, Kiernan Proud, 

 5   Tommy Rioux, Shemar Thomas, Cameron Walsh, Wyatt 

 6   Weil, Hugh White III, Philip Zollo; Head Coach 

 7   John Purcell and Assistant Coaches Charlie May, 

 8   Neal Purcell, Ron Scott, and Walt Eccles on their 

 9   outstanding season and overall team record; and 

10   be it further 

11                "RESOLVED, That copies of this 

12   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 

13   the members of the Syracuse Cougars Boys Ice 

14   Hockey Team, Head Coach John Purcell and 

15   Assistant Coaches Charlie May, Neal Purcell, Ron 

16   Scott, and Walt Eccles."

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Order 

18   in the chamber, please.  

19                Senator May on the resolution.

20                SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.  

22                Enough about Queens.  

23                (Laughter.)

24                SENATOR MAY:   I ask you to turn 

25   your attention a few hundred miles to the 


                                                               1887

 1   northwest and celebrate the Syracuse Cougars.

 2                (Applause.)

 3                SENATOR MAY:   We have us with us 

 4   Alex Moreno, Nathan Frye, Shemar Thomas, and 

 5   Ethan Petty, along with the head coach, Neal 

 6   Purcell, who is in his first year as head coach.  

 7   And he guided them to a 24-1-1 record over the 

 8   year and their first-ever Division 1 Ice Hockey 

 9   Championship.

10                That impressive victory that won 

11   them the championship -- is Senator Carlucci 

12   here?  It was over Suffern High School.  And so I 

13   just want to say to Senator Carlucci that we're 

14   sorry, but Syracuse rules.

15                (Laughter.)

16                SENATOR MAY:   These boys were 

17   coached by an excellent group of coaches, not 

18   only long-time Coach John Purcell, but his son 

19   Neal, who was New York State Coach of the Year 

20   this year, as well as Assistant Coaches Ron Scott 

21   and Walt Eccles and Charlie May, who is sadly no 

22   relation to me.

23                Those of us in the greater Syracuse 

24   region are so proud of these players, who have 

25   also sat very patiently through a long lesson in 


                                                               1888

 1   civics today.  We know how important 

 2   participation in athletics can be to a young 

 3   person's development.  And the winning spirit 

 4   these young men have demonstrated in their season 

 5   speaks well of the time and energy they have put 

 6   into the game.

 7                This is the first state title for 

 8   the combined program, based out of Corcoran High 

 9   School in Syracuse.  And even though Coach 

10   Purcell says he has nowhere to go but down from 

11   here after winning the championship in his first 

12   year as head coach, I have every confidence that 

13   future generations of Cougars will take this 

14   legacy and carry it forward and you'll have a 

15   streak to be remembered.  

16                That's why I'm proud to sponsor this 

17   resolution to honor and congratulate these young 

18   men in their victory.

19                Thank you.  

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

21   Antonacci on the resolution.

22                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.

24                I would just like to let Senator 

25   Comrie know that the Syracuse Mets are now the 


                                                               1889

 1   AAA affiliate of the New York Mets, so we love 

 2   Queens in Syracuse just as much as you do.  

 3                (Laughter.)

 4                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   So we're 

 5   looking forward to a great season.

 6                SENATOR COMRIE:   (Inaudible.)

 7                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Come on up any 

 8   time for a game.

 9                I want to congratulate the Cougars, 

10   24, 1 and 1.  And I was with -- yesterday with 

11   your superintendent, Jaime Alicea, and we were 

12   talking about how proud we were of your team and 

13   how proud we were of the camaraderie and the 

14   togetherness of five or six different school 

15   districts that came together to form one hockey 

16   team.  The entire city of Syracuse, the towns of 

17   Marcellus, West Hill -- where my daughter is a 

18   high school senior -- OCS and Lafayette.  And I 

19   think you showed the adults how to play together 

20   and work towards a common goal.  

21                I'm also proud of you, Mr. Purcell, 

22   as I've seen you since you were a little kid.  

23   And I also coached Little League baseball with 

24   your dad, and I know how important it is for you 

25   to be involved in these young men's lives and how 


                                                               1890

 1   important it is to be called coach.  

 2                And I want to congratulate you and 

 3   everyone on a well-done season.  And I want a 

 4   repeat, okay?  Thank you.

 5                Thank you, Mr. President.  

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 7   question is on the resolution.  All in favor 

 8   signify by saying aye.

 9                (Response of "Aye.")

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

11   Opposed?  

12                (No response.)

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

14   resolution is adopted.

15                To our guests, I welcome you on 

16   behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

17   privileges and courtesies of this house.  Please 

18   rise and be recognized.

19                (Standing ovation.)

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

21   Biaggi.

22                SENATOR BIAGGI:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.

24                At the request of Senator May, the 

25   resolution is open for cosponsorship.


                                                               1891

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 2   resolution is open for cosponsorship.  Should you 

 3   choose not to be a cosponsor of the resolution, 

 4   please notify the desk.

 5                Senator Biaggi.

 6                SENATOR BIAGGI:   We will now take 

 7   up Resolution J621, by Senator Sepúlveda, read 

 8   the title, and please call on Senator Sepúlveda.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   Secretary will read.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

12   Number 621, by Senator Sepúlveda, memorializing 

13   Governor Andrew M. Cuomo to declare March 11, 

14   2019 to April 12, 2019, as Garifuna-American 

15   Heritage Month in the State of New York.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

17   Sepúlveda on the resolution.

18                SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Thank you, 

19   Mr. President, for allowing me for speak on this 

20   resolution.

21                I want to thank Senator 

22   Stewart-Cousins for allowing us to present a 

23   resolution that honors -- the real pronunciation 

24   is Garee-gu-na -- Garee-na-gu -- Garee-na-gu 

25   culture.  We know it as Garifuna.  Today we are 


                                                               1892

 1   passing a resolution that honors the 

 2   Garifuna-American Heritage Month.

 3                Their rich culture and spirit lives 

 4   in our communities and in the Bronx, the greatest 

 5   county in the world to live.  And I have to 

 6   remind everybody that's a sports fan that we have 

 7   the New York Yankees.  Sorry, you guys in Queens 

 8   have the Mets.

 9                It is significant this month to 

10   celebrate and recognize the tragic history where 

11   the Garifuna people suffered forcible deportation 

12   by the British from St. Vincent and the 

13   Grenadines in 1797.  This resulted in permanent 

14   separation of the Garifuna Family, leaving them 

15   to settle along Central America's Caribbean coast 

16   and eventually migrating during the 1930s to 

17   several cities in the United States.

18                The Garifuna people are a mixed race 

19   comprised of descendants of West Africans, 

20   Central Africans, Island Caribs and the Arawak 

21   people.  Today most of them live in Honduras, 

22   Belize, Guatemala, and Nicaragua.  

23                However, outside of those countries, 

24   New York City is home to the largest Garifuna 

25   population in the world.  And most of them live, 


                                                               1893

 1   again, in the greatest county to live in the 

 2   world, in the Bronx.  

 3                And it's an honor for me to 

 4   commemorate a beautiful cultural heritage whose 

 5   traditions have inspired and transpired into our 

 6   streets with dance, music, food and amazing 

 7   storytelling.

 8                Garifuna-American Heritage Month 

 9   provides an opportunity to celebrate the Garifuna 

10   Family reunification and recognize the 

11   significance of Garifuna contributions to the 

12   quality and character of life in New York State.  

13   Their story is one of resilience and survival.  

14   So I say "Seremein" for allowing me to honor such 

15   an amazing culture and people.  

16                Thank you.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

18   resolution was previously adopted on March 7th.

19                Senator Gianaris.

20                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

21   before we go back to the controversial calendar, 

22   I do want to pause and welcome the Majority 

23   Leader of the State Assembly, who's joined us.

24                (Applause.)

25                SENATOR GIANARIS:   And can we now 


                                                               1894

 1   go to the controversial calendar, please.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 3   Secretary will ring the bell.

 4                The Secretary will read.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   On page 5, Senator 

 6   Kennedy moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 7   Transportation, Assembly Bill Number 951 and 

 8   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 231, 

 9   Third Reading Calendar 47.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

11   substitution is so ordered.

12                The Secretary will read.  

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 47, 

14   Assembly Bill 951, by Assemblymember 

15   Peoples-Stokes, an act to amend the Vehicle and 

16   Traffic Law and the Public Officers Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

18   Ranzenhofer.

19                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

20   Mr. President, will the sponsor yield for a few 

21   questions?  

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

23   the sponsor yield?  

24                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

25   Mr. President, I'd be happy to yield.


                                                               1895

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 2   sponsor yields.

 3                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.  

 5                Through you, can the sponsor tell me 

 6   other than monetary fines, are there any other 

 7   penalties provided for in this proposed 

 8   legislation?  

 9                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Thank you.  

10   Through you, Mr. President, I want to thank my 

11   colleague for that question and talk a little bit 

12   about the bill, if I may, on the bill.  

13                Our message here today is simple.  

14   The absolute last place anyone should be speeding 

15   is near a school where kids, parents, teachers 

16   and neighbors are crossing the street.  No 

17   appointment is important so much so that one 

18   needs to put the lives of children at risk to get 

19   there one or two minutes earlier.  

20                According to Safe Kids Worldwide, in 

21   the United States there's been a 13 percent 

22   increase in the pedestrian death rate for 

23   12-to-19-year-olds since 2013, which is an 

24   appalling number.

25                In the City of New York, the program 


                                                               1896

 1   has proven to work.  It has unquestionably saved 

 2   lives, and so much so that the City of Buffalo 

 3   has requested that this legislation be expanded 

 4   into our community.  

 5                And quite frankly, as the father of 

 6   three kids attending the Buffalo public schools, 

 7   I'd like to see it extended to protect my kids 

 8   and families like mine.  But I will tell you, 

 9   I've seen firsthand the horrific instances of 

10   cars that just blaze by these schools as if there 

11   are not children around, as if there are not kids 

12   crossing the street or crossing guards in the 

13   way.

14                It's why, with Assembly Majority 

15   Leader Crystal Peoples-Stokes, who has joined us 

16   in the chamber here today, I have authored this 

17   legislation that we're passing today that keeps 

18   our kids safe in Buffalo just as we're keeping 

19   kids safe in the City of New York.  So we are 

20   creating a pilot program in the City of Buffalo, 

21   allowing up to 20 speed cameras in school zones 

22   chosen by the city in concert with the Buffalo 

23   public schools.  

24                And in the meetings with the 

25   district it's been made clear that there are a 


                                                               1897

 1   number of schools in high-traffic areas that have 

 2   already seen near misses.  We cannot act quickly 

 3   enough to prevent injury or potential deaths as 

 4   they have seen in other areas of the state 

 5   without these cameras.  

 6                So I'm proud to support this today, 

 7   and I'm happy to answer these questions from my 

 8   colleague.

 9                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

10   Mr. President, if the sponsor will yield for a 

11   question.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

13   the sponsor yield?  

14                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Of course.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

16   sponsor yields.

17                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   And I would 

18   like to join Senator Kennedy in welcoming my good 

19   friend Crystal Peoples-Stokes, who I've served 

20   with both here in Albany and in Erie County for 

21   many, many years.  Welcome to the chamber.

22                And I want to thank Senator Kennedy 

23   for his comments.  And just to echo on the 

24   comments, I think everybody in this chamber is 

25   very concerned about public safety, about school 


                                                               1898

 1   safety, and in particular about safety for 

 2   children.  As a matter of fact, as Senator 

 3   Jackson, Senator Flanagan and many, many people 

 4   have talked, as we were talking about the 

 5   New York City bill, about people slowing down and 

 6   Senator Kennedy just made a comment about, you 

 7   know, if you can get people to slow down, be in 

 8   not such a hurry for one or two minutes, we're 

 9   going to save lives.

10                So I'd like to just harken back to 

11   the original question that I had posed to Senator 

12   Kennedy and ask him if other than monetary fines, 

13   are there any other penalties provided in this 

14   proposed legislation for either motorists, 

15   drivers of the vehicles or owners of the 

16   vehicles?  

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

18   Mr. President, no.

19                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Can -- if the 

20   sponsor will continue to yield.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

22   sponsor yield for a question?  

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

25   sponsor yields.


                                                               1899

 1                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Can the 

 2   sponsor tell me what are the monetary penalties 

 3   for a first violation, second violation, third 

 4   violation of this proposed legislation?

 5                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Sure.  So this 

 6   legislation will allow the City of Buffalo to 

 7   promulgate the rules and put in place -- again, 

 8   in concert with the City of Buffalo public school 

 9   system -- 20 different locations for these 

10   cameras.  Any liability is mailed to the owner of 

11   the vehicle and counts as a parking violation, 

12   not a moving violation.

13                The City of Buffalo will set this 

14   program, they will set the fines up to $50.

15                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'm sorry, up 

16   to --

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Up to $50.

18                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Okay.  So, 

19   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

20   yield.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

22   sponsor yield?

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   I will yield.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

25   sponsor yields.


                                                               1900

 1                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So for the 

 2   owner of the vehicle, there is no penalty either 

 3   against his or her license or his or her 

 4   registration if there are multitude of 

 5   violations.  

 6                So in other words, if I'm the owner 

 7   of a car and I receive a tenth violation for 

 8   violating a speed -- going over the speed limit 

 9   in a school zone, nothing would happen to my 

10   registration.  Would that be an accurate reading 

11   of the statute?

12                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

13   Mr. President, that question on whether or not 

14   there will be an impact on one's registration or 

15   insurance, the answer is no.  

16                However, if my colleague would like 

17   to advance that legislation, we in the 

18   Transportation Committee would certainly take a 

19   look at it.

20                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   And, 

21   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

22   yield.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

24   sponsor yield?  

25                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.


                                                               1901

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 2   sponsor yields.

 3                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So I know 

 4   there was a lot of conversation today from many 

 5   members about deterrents and getting these 

 6   speeding drivers to slow down, getting these 

 7   speeding drivers off the road.

 8                Is there any penalty in the statute 

 9   against the driver of the car?

10                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

11   Mr. President, yes.  

12                The driver of the car, if that 

13   driver is the owner of the vehicle, will be fined 

14   at a rate that the city will set.  And if it is 

15   not the owner of the vehicle that is driving the 

16   car, then they have a right -- the owner has a 

17   right to receive payment for any fees and fines 

18   from the operator of that vehicle.

19                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

20   Mr. President, if the Senator will continue to 

21   yield.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

23   sponsor yield?  

24                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 


                                                               1902

 1   sponsor yields.

 2                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So can you 

 3   just describe the mechanism where the owner would 

 4   recoup money from the driver, in your statute?  I 

 5   didn't quite see that.

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Sure.  

 7                Mr. President, if someone was -- 

 8   say, for instance, my colleague Senator 

 9   Ranzenhofer decided to borrow the car of 

10   Senator Lanza and drive through one of these 

11   school zones --

12                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I just want 

13   to let you know I would never speed.

14                SENATOR KENNEDY:   -- and drive 

15   through one of these school zones over 10 miles 

16   an hour over the posted limit, to which there 

17   will be signage depicting the fact that one is 

18   entering that school zone, so blatantly ignoring 

19   those signs during school session and potentially 

20   an hour before and after school session is in 

21   place, or other activities, that -- 

22   Mr. President, Senator Ranzenhofer would be in 

23   violation of the law.  

24                The speed camera would recognize 

25   that that was Senator Lanza's vehicle, and 


                                                               1903

 1   Senator Lanza would be given a fine to the extent 

 2   that the city so sets.

 3                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So, 

 4   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

 5   yield.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 7   sponsor yield?  

 8                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

 9   Mr. President, I will yield.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

11   sponsor yields.

12                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So under the 

13   proposed legislation does the City of Buffalo 

14   have the right to go against the driver of the 

15   car for speeding, or is it limited to just going 

16   against the owner of the car?

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

18   Mr. President, it is the vehicle registration 

19   that will be recognized, and ultimately it will 

20   be the owner of the vehicle that is fined.  It 

21   would then be up to the owner of the vehicle to 

22   recoup those funds from whoever may have been 

23   driving that vehicle.

24                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

25   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 


                                                               1904

 1   yield.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 3   sponsor yield to a question?  

 4                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 6   sponsor yields.

 7                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So in the 

 8   proposed legislation is there a mechanism within 

 9   the legislation for the city to go after the 

10   motorist that is speeding through the zone?

11                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

12   Mr. President, this legislation will allow the 

13   City of Buffalo to deter speeding in school 

14   zones, to keep our children safe by setting up a 

15   pilot program, identifying these school zones by 

16   law passed through the City of Buffalo -- to 

17   which they've asked for a home rule, mind you -- 

18   supported by the Buffalo Public Schools, the 

19   parents' association, the AARP, and various other 

20   organizations, to keep our communities safe.

21                There is no such plan in place 

22   today.  And this legislation is mirrored off of 

23   what was put in place back in 2013, which has 

24   become such a tremendous success that we have 

25   advanced legislation expanding those school 


                                                               1905

 1   safety zones today, and it was approved.

 2                So this is the vehicle through which 

 3   the City of Buffalo will deter that speeding in 

 4   the school zones.

 5                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

 6   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

 7   yield.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 9   sponsor yield?  

10                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Of course.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

12   sponsor yields.

13                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Is there an 

14   estimate of how much money the city is expected 

15   to collect in its fiscal year through this 

16   program?

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

18   Mr. President, the -- my colleague Senator 

19   Ranzenhofer can request that of the city, but 

20   this is a City of Buffalo request, a system that 

21   they have asked for.  

22                As far as revenues produced, that is 

23   something that the city would have to get to 

24   Senator Ranzenhofer.  This is about protecting 

25   children and saving lives.


                                                               1906

 1                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

 2   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

 3   yield.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 5   sponsor yield to a question?  

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Of course.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8   sponsor yields.

 9                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Is there any 

10   provision in the legislation which requires that 

11   these monies that are collected go for purposes 

12   that were enunciated by Senator Jackson or 

13   Senator Flanagan when we were discussing the 

14   New York City bill, to make sure that these 

15   moneys are designated for school safety, whether 

16   they be speed bumps, signage, notices?  Or is 

17   this money that will just go to the General Fund 

18   of the City of Buffalo?

19                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

20   Mr. President, mirroring what the City of 

21   New York successfully approved and implemented, 

22   and that we again have endorsed through quite the 

23   overwhelming support of both chambers today, the 

24   City of Buffalo has this legislation that is 

25   reflective of the New York City legislation.  


                                                               1907

 1                And so the answer to my colleague's 

 2   question is that the funding will go to the City 

 3   of Buffalo General Fund, as it goes to the City 

 4   of New York General Fund.

 5                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

 6   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

 7   yield.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will 

 9   sponsor yield?

10                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

12   sponsor yields.

13                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Can the 

14   sponsor explain what the mechanism would be for 

15   collecting money from a vehicle which is 

16   registered out of state?

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

18   Mr. President, any ticket that is issued, if the 

19   driver of that vehicle is speeding at 10 miles an 

20   hour above the stated speed in a school zone, is 

21   promulgated through the City of Buffalo 

22   enforcement, law enforcement agencies.  And like 

23   any other ticket adjudication process -- for 

24   example, a parking ticket -- that will go through 

25   the city's enforcement agency.


                                                               1908

 1                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

 2   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

 3   yield.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 5   sponsor yield?  

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8   sponsor yields.

 9                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So does the 

10   City of Buffalo right now have the mechanism to 

11   collect money from a vehicle which is out of 

12   state, registered out of state?

13                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President, I don't have that information 

15   before me, but I'm assuming that they do.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

17   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

18   yield.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

20   sponsor yield?

21                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Can you 

22   explain -- well, let me just back up a second.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

24   Kennedy, do you yield?

25                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.


                                                               1909

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 2   Kennedy yields.

 3                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Okay.  So the 

 4   question that I have for the sponsor is if you 

 5   own a vehicle and you are not the driver or you 

 6   claim that you're not the driver, what is the 

 7   mechanism for you to contest that?  

 8                And the second part of the question 

 9   is, is it a defense if you go to the adjudication 

10   bureau which you just described and you say that 

11   "I was not driving that vehicle," are you still 

12   responsible even if you are not the driver?

13                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President, the owner of the vehicle is 

15   responsible.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   And just a 

17   couple more questions, if the sponsor will 

18   continue to yield.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

20   sponsor yield?

21                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.   

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

23   sponsor yields.

24                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So under our 

25   current law, if you have a number of vehicle and 


                                                               1910

 1   traffic violations, whether they be three speeds 

 2   within 18 months or too many points, there's a 

 3   mechanism for suspending licenses.  Is there any 

 4   provision in this legislation where, if you are a 

 5   persistent violator of school safety and child 

 6   safety, that you will be penalized if your 

 7   vehicle is used over and over again to violate 

 8   this section of the law?

 9                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

10   Mr. President, no.

11                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I have no 

12   further questions.  But on the bill.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14   Ranzenhofer on the bill.

15                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   First of all, 

16   I'd like to thank the sponsor for addressing 

17   concerns that I have and answering the questions 

18   that I have.  

19                You know, listening to this debate 

20   and then the earlier debate on New York City, I 

21   think it was Senator Gounardes who said that 

22   we're looking to change behavior and slow people 

23   down.  I think it was Senator Sepúlveda who said 

24   that, you know, the whole idea behind this 

25   legislation is for motorists to slow down because 


                                                               1911

 1   they don't want a ticket.  I think it was Senator 

 2   Krueger who talked about keeping vehicles slowing 

 3   down, and even Senator Kennedy who mentioned what 

 4   we really want to do is we want to keep people 

 5   from thinking that they don't have to worry about 

 6   speeding through a school zone, that we really 

 7   want them to pay attention and not try to save a 

 8   minute or two in order to get to their 

 9   destination.  

10                So I applaud the intent behind this 

11   legislation.  I don't think there is a Senator in 

12   this chamber, no matter where you live, whether 

13   you live in Buffalo, Erie County, or Queens or 

14   Brooklyn, that is not concerned about school 

15   safety, is not concerned about people speeding 

16   through school zones, which results in injury, 

17   which results in death.  Because even if you have 

18   thousands of people speeding through a school 

19   zone and there's one accident, that's one 

20   accident too many.

21                But the issue that I have with this 

22   legislation is that while the intention is good, 

23   there are two concerns that I have.  We've heard 

24   a lot of speeches and a lot of comments about 

25   saving lives and protecting children, but 


                                                               1912

 1   whatever amount of money -- and listening to the 

 2   figures from New York City, where it's in the 

 3   hundreds of millions of dollars, and I imagine 

 4   that for the City of Buffalo it's in the millions 

 5   of dollars, or maybe even more -- there is 

 6   nothing in this legislation which says we are 

 7   going to take this money, we are going to put it 

 8   in a lockbox and we are going to use this money 

 9   to improve school safety and to keep kids safe 

10   around schools.  

11                Which I don't get it.  If we're 

12   concerned about that, if we're concerned about 

13   the safety of children around schools and 

14   speeding motorists, then the first thing that we 

15   would want to do is we would want to make sure 

16   that these funds go for that designated purpose, 

17   to keep kids safe.  I'm not an expert in the 

18   area, but certainly speed bumps and other devices 

19   which can be used to slow traffic down around 

20   schools are in order.

21                The greatest concern that I have 

22   after listening to all of my colleagues talking 

23   about slowing drivers down and keeping kids safe 

24   is there is absolutely nothing in this 

25   legislation which goes to the driver of the car.  


                                                               1913

 1   Nothing which goes to the driver of the car.  In 

 2   the technology that we have today, where we can 

 3   pinpoint a person in the middle of Buffalo or 

 4   Manhattan, there is no reason why legislation -- 

 5   if you want to get unsafe drivers off the street, 

 6   go after the person that's driving the car.

 7                Under every statute that we have in 

 8   this state, if you speed too many times, you lose 

 9   your license.  If you go through too many traffic 

10   stop signs, you lose your license.  If you go 

11   through too many red lights, you lose your 

12   license.  You get too many points on your license 

13   for whatever section of the vehicle law that you 

14   violate, you lose your license.  

15                Drivers here can drive through 

16   school zones with impunity.  There's nothing that 

17   can be done to the driver who puts our kids at 

18   risk.

19                Fact number two.  There is nothing 

20   done to the owner.  So if you allow your 

21   vehicle -- and whether you give it to your 

22   neighbor or whether you give it to your kid or 

23   whether you give it to your brother or your 

24   sister, you can persistently, day after day after 

25   day, just run through those school zones.  It 


                                                               1914

 1   doesn't matter.  You're not going to lose your 

 2   license.  You're not going to lose your 

 3   registration.  

 4                There's nothing here which deals 

 5   with driver behavior.  There's nothing here which 

 6   deals with owner responsibility -- that your 

 7   registration could be at risk, your license could 

 8   be at risk.

 9                So if we're trying to change 

10   behavior, we're trying to slow people down, in my 

11   estimation -- in my estimation, the bill needs to 

12   address those issues.  That's why I did not 

13   support the New York City piece, I will not be 

14   supporting this piece.  Because while the intent 

15   is good -- and I commend you, Senator Kennedy, 

16   through you, Mr. President, for introducing a 

17   concept which is good, which is the concept 

18   of school safety --

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Excuse 

20   me.  Senator Krueger, why do you rise?

21                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'm just 

22   about to wrap it up, Mr. President. I'm just 

23   about to wrap it up.

24                Hey, you made me lose my train of 

25   thought.  Very good.  Good move.  


                                                               1915

 1                (Laughter.)

 2                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   In 

 3   conclusion, there is -- there's just nothing here 

 4   that deals with owner or driver responsibility.  

 5                You know, if you're wealthy and 

 6   you're driving through the City of Buffalo and 

 7   you can pay whatever it is, the $50 or whatever 

 8   that fine is, and you don't give a hoot about 

 9   kids -- that's not good, but there's no -- that's 

10   the deterrence.  That's the deterrence.  

11                Lose your license, lose your 

12   registration, get the dangerous person, driver or 

13   owner, off the road.  Don't let them continue to 

14   haunt the City of Buffalo, any community.

15                So that's the concern I have.  

16   Senator Kennedy, I will take you up on your offer 

17   to consider legislation which actually, in my 

18   estimation, gets to the heart of the matter to 

19   remove dangerous drivers from the roads, drivers 

20   that continually, with impunity, drive past 

21   school zones exceeding the speed limit, time 

22   after time after time.  

23                I believe that we need to address 

24   the persistent violator who is going to, time and 

25   time again, violate these speed zones, putting 


                                                               1916

 1   our kids at risk.  And I'll be happy to work with 

 2   you on that resolution.  

 3                Thank you, Mr. President.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 5   Krueger.

 6                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  Would 

 7   Senator Ranzenhofer please allow me to ask him 

 8   some questions?  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

10   Ranzenhofer, do you yield?

11                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Oh.  My 

12   colleagues are shouting no, but I'd be happy to 

13   yield to a question.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

15   Senator yields.

16                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

17                So I was listening to your debate.  

18   Are you suggesting that we somehow establish some 

19   kind of biometric photos where we take pictures 

20   of the drivers and send them tickets based on 

21   taking a photo not just of the license plate, but 

22   of the actual driver?  

23                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Well, first 

24   of all -- through you, Mr. President -- I believe 

25   that the technology exists to take a picture of a 


                                                               1917

 1   person in a vehicle.  The point that I was 

 2   making, Senator Krueger, is that there needs to 

 3   be responsibility primarily on the owner, with 

 4   the registration, but also the driver.  

 5                So if you own a vehicle and your 

 6   vehicle time after time after time is 

 7   accumulating violations of speeding through a 

 8   school zone, with there being nothing that can be 

 9   done to either adversely affect your license or 

10   adversely affect your registration to get you off 

11   the road, that that is -- I think that's really 

12   at the heart of the matter.  I think that's what 

13   needs to be done to truly make our schools safe.  

14                So that's my thought on the process.

15                SENATOR KRUEGER:   And you said that 

16   since nothing would stop them -- I'm just 

17   curious, if your neighbor was --

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

19   Krueger, are you asking Senator Ranzenhofer to 

20   yield?

21                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Oh, through you, 

22   Mr. President, if the Senator would continue to 

23   yield.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

25   Ranzenhofer, do you yield? 


                                                               1918

 1                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'd be happy 

 2   to yield.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 4   Ranzenhofer yields.

 5                SENATOR KRUEGER:   So I'm just 

 6   curious, if your neighbor kept taking your car, 

 7   driving through school zones and getting tickets, 

 8   would you continue to lend them your car?  

 9                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   No.  Through 

10   you, Mr. President.  And through you, 

11   Mr. President, I probably wouldn't have lent them 

12   my car in the first place, but that's a side 

13   issue.

14                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

15   Mr. President, if the Senator will continue to 

16   yield.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

18   Ranzenhofer, do you yield?  

19                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes, I'd be 

20   happy to.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

22   Senator yields.

23                SENATOR KRUEGER:   If your teenager 

24   was borrowing your car and getting these tickets, 

25   would you allow them to continue to drive it or 


                                                               1919

 1   would you not take them aside and have a serious 

 2   talk about their driving patterns?

 3                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Through you, 

 4   Mr. President, in answer to the second question, 

 5   I cannot comment on the type of disciplinary 

 6   action that would be taken in my household if I 

 7   had a child that was of driving age and doing 

 8   that.  I don't know if a serious conversation 

 9   would be what I would do.  I might do something a 

10   little bit sterner than simply having a 

11   heart-to-heart conversation with a teenager who 

12   was accumulating speeding tickets through a 

13   school zone.  

14                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  Thank 

15   you for your answers.

16                Senator Kennedy, would you please be 

17   willing to answer a couple of questions?

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

19   Kennedy, do you yield?  

20                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Let me consider 

21   it, Mr. President.  

22                (Laughter.)

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

25   Senator yields.


                                                               1920

 1                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

 2                Senator Kennedy, is there anything 

 3   in your legislation that prevents the City of 

 4   Buffalo from allowing police officers to actually 

 5   give tickets to people speeding through school 

 6   zones that may include additional penalties 

 7   beyond what a camera ticket might do?  

 8                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 9   Mr. President, no.

10                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

11   Mr. President, would the sponsor please accept 

12   another question?  

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

14   Kennedy, do you yield?  

15                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

17   Kennedy yields.

18                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.

19                Is it conceivable that if the City 

20   of Buffalo had additional revenue from the speed 

21   cameras that they might use it to increase the 

22   police presence going after dangerous drivers?  

23   Is there anything that would stop them from doing 

24   that?  

25                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 


                                                               1921

 1   Mr. President, there is nothing that would 

 2   prevent the City of Buffalo from doing that.

 3                SENATOR KRUEGER:   On the bill, 

 4   Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 6   Krueger on the bill.

 7                SENATOR KRUEGER:   I want to thank 

 8   the sponsor for bringing us this bill today.  It 

 9   is extremely similar to the one we already passed 

10   for New York City, a city that I live in and have 

11   experience with.

12                You know, I suppose in a perfect 

13   world one might imagine a police officer on every 

14   corner and on every block prepared to write a 

15   ticket or stop a fast driver.  But we don't live 

16   in that world anyway, and I would argue many of 

17   us really wouldn't want to live in a world where 

18   we used a hundred percent of our local budgets to 

19   have police officers block by block by block.

20                So in fact what we have found is 

21   that cameras and tickets with cameras can change 

22   behavior and can be complementary to, but not an 

23   alternative to, the systems we already have in 

24   place where localities do try to keep their 

25   people safe and their streets safe, while 


                                                               1922

 1   localities do use police officers and, at least 

 2   in the City of New York, others to provide 

 3   tickets to cars and drivers when they see them 

 4   violating our laws.  

 5                But we are using technology to 

 6   improve their opportunities and to educate people 

 7   through financial fines what they can do and 

 8   what they shouldn't do.

 9                Now, my colleague Senator 

10   Ranzenhofer suggested perhaps we ought to go 

11   further and have some kind of biometric ID of the 

12   people on camera for purposes of the kinds of 

13   tickets that could impact their license.  I would 

14   argue that technology would probably allow us to 

15   go that far, but we would want to think hard and 

16   fast about the ramifications of actually starting 

17   to pass driving laws that actually ID'd 

18   photographs of people in their cars, because 

19   there are all kinds of other questions that that 

20   would open up that I'm not sure we're prepared to 

21   go there.

22                But I do know that the model we are 

23   talking about today, both in this bill by Senator 

24   Kennedy for Buffalo and the previous bill for 

25   New York City, ensure that a tried-and-true model 


                                                               1923

 1   of discouraging behavior that can lead to the 

 2   deaths of pedestrians, adults and children, with 

 3   financial fines do change behavior, work very 

 4   well, do not prevent the police from continuing 

 5   any other kind of surveillance or ticketing of 

 6   people on our streets.  

 7                It's really a win/win.  And I'm just 

 8   not sure why so many people find that hard to 

 9   understand.

10                I vote yes, Mr. President.  Thank 

11   you.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

13   you, Senator Krueger.

14                Senator Lanza.

15                SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, Mr. President, 

16   would the sponsor yield for a couple of 

17   questions?  

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:  Senator 

19   Kennedy, do you yield?  

20                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

22   sponsor yields.

23                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

24   Mr. President.  I regret not having the 

25   opportunity to ask questions on the bill applying 


                                                               1924

 1   to New York City because it wasn't laid aside.  

 2   Since this is substantially the same bill, same 

 3   channel, different location, I have a couple of 

 4   questions for Senator Kennedy.

 5                Senator Kennedy, will the cameras be 

 6   placed only at intersections where there is a 

 7   history of accident and injury resulting from 

 8   speeding?

 9                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

10   Mr. President, the City of Buffalo will install 

11   these cameras, first of all, after passing a law 

12   delineating where these cameras will be located 

13   specifically.  The city must install signs that 

14   say the appropriate speed present within the 

15   school zone, and signs that clearly denote those 

16   school zone limits.  

17                The City of Buffalo, in concert with 

18   the school board, the City of Buffalo schools, 

19   will figure out -- by virtue of the number of 

20   crashes that were within those school zones, the 

21   severity of those crashes, the number of 

22   violations, the number of fines, all of these 

23   things in the geometry surrounding the school 

24   building itself, the school buildings 

25   themselves -- where the appropriate place to put 


                                                               1925

 1   these cameras are.

 2                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

 3   continue to yield.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

 5   sponsor yield?

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8   sponsor yields.

 9                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

10   Mr. President.  So Senator Kennedy, do you 

11   believe that the cameras should only be placed at 

12   intersections where there is a demonstrated 

13   history of accidents and injuries due to 

14   speeding?  

15                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

16   Mr. President, I believe that keeping Buffalo 

17   schoolchildren safe and having the same 

18   protections as they have in New York City is the 

19   appropriate action for this body to take.  And 

20   hence we are implementing virtually the exact 

21   same system that the City of New York implemented 

22   successfully six years ago and, according to the 

23   parents who have lost children, want this system 

24   expanded in the city, to which this body took 

25   action on today.  


                                                               1926

 1                And furthermore, according to recent 

 2   reports in the Buffalo News, and quoting Will 

 3   Keresztes, the chief of intergovernmental 

 4   affairs, planning and community engagement in the 

 5   Buffalo schools:  "We definitely have what I 

 6   would consider to be a crisis on hand."  The 

 7   school district had four close calls in the City 

 8   of Buffalo in recent months.  There's been a rise 

 9   in reckless driving during morning and afternoon 

10   times.  And quite frankly, from what we're 

11   hearing locally, it's only a matter of time 

12   before someone is killed.  

13                We are not going to wait until there 

14   is a child or a family member killed in the City 

15   of Buffalo because of a lack of action of this 

16   body, as has been the past practice, to implement 

17   the same sort of lifesaving system that New York 

18   City kids get.

19                SENATOR LANZA:   Will the sponsor 

20   continue to yield?  

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

22   sponsor yield.

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

25   sponsor yields.


                                                               1927

 1                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

 2   Mr. President, I agree.  I think we should act 

 3   anytime our children, especially around schools, 

 4   are in danger.  It's my contention that this 

 5   action is not going to be effective in actually 

 6   accomplishing that goal, which is why I'm asking 

 7   these questions.  

 8                So my last question was about where 

 9   these would be sited.  And the reason I asked 

10   that is through my experience in New York City -- 

11   and the bill that was passed earlier would 

12   continue to allow this to be the policy -- they 

13   put the cameras wherever they want to, not based 

14   on whether or not there's a history of accidents 

15   and injuries resulting from speeding.  

16                And I would think that if we were 

17   really concerned about speeding around schools, 

18   that we would start with those locations if we 

19   really want to effectuate the goal.

20                And so that's why I hope, you know, 

21   as this plays out in Buffalo, that you'd heed 

22   that experience and that you would actually do 

23   the opposite of what New York City does, which is 

24   to put the cameras where they're most needed.

25                Through you, Mr. President, will 


                                                               1928

 1   there be a sign posted at these intersections 

 2   alerting motorists to the fact that there is a 

 3   speed camera at that site?

 4                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 5   Mr. President, yes.

 6                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

 7   continue to yield?  

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

 9   sponsor yield?  

10                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

12   sponsor yields.

13                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President.  So Senator Kennedy, there will be 

15   a sign that cites the limit, but it also say that 

16   there is a speed camera present at the location?  

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

18   Mr. President, yes.

19                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

20   continue to yield?

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Does the 

22   sponsor yield?

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

25   sponsor yields.


                                                               1929

 1                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

 2   Mr. President.  Senator Kennedy, I think that's 

 3   great news for the people of Buffalo, because 

 4   that's not the case in New York City.  The 

 5   cameras are going to go up and people aren't 

 6   going to know that they're there.  I think it's 

 7   important to have signs.

 8                I hope that's the case.  I read the 

 9   bill; I don't see that.  It suggests the 

10   possibility for signage but it does not mandate 

11   that it actually says that.  I hope I missed it, 

12   and I hope you're right, because I think that 

13   would go even further than the cameras in slowing 

14   motorists down.  So that is the case?

15                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.  Through 

16   you, Mr. President, line 29 of the bill states:  

17   The city shall install signs giving notice that a 

18   photo speed violation monitoring system is in 

19   use, to be mounted on advanced warning signs 

20   notifying motor vehicle operators of such 

21   upcoming school speed zone and/or on speed limit 

22   signs applicable within such school speed zone, 

23   in conformance with standards established in the 

24   MUTCD.

25                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, will 


                                                               1930

 1   the sponsor continue to yield?

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   

 3   Certainly, Mr. Lanza.  Oh, hold on.  Mr. Kennedy, 

 4   do you --

 5                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Uh, well, no.

 6                (Laughter.)

 7                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, of course.  

 8   Of course.  Of course.  

 9                (Laughter.)

10                SENATOR LANZA:   And I thank the 

11   sponsor.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   The 

13   sponsor yields.

14                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

15   Mr. President.  So the lawyer in me, you know, 

16   the hairs go up on the back of my neck when I 

17   hear "and/or."  So I'm not sure that 

18   accomplishes that.  I hope it does.  I wish that 

19   New York City did that, but it doesn't.

20                Through you, Mr. President, how much 

21   revenue does the City of Buffalo expect to have 

22   generated by these cameras?

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

24   Mr. President, the City of Buffalo is to 

25   determine that.  I do not have that information 


                                                               1931

 1   before me.

 2                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

 3   continue to yield?  

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

 5   the sponsor continue to yield?  

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Yes.

 8                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

 9   Mr. President.  So, Senator Kennedy, has Buffalo 

10   already done that?  Are there estimates out there 

11   already in terms of how much money this will 

12   generate?  

13                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President, they may have.  I do not have that 

15   information before me.

16                SENATOR LANZA:   Will the sponsor 

17   continue to yield?  

18                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

19   you continue to yield?  

20                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Yes.

22                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

23   Mr. President.  Senator Kennedy, where does the 

24   money go that is generated by these speed 

25   cameras?


                                                               1932

 1                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 2   Mr. President, I hope everyone was listening, 

 3   because I'm repeating answers from earlier.  

 4   However, the money goes back to the city General 

 5   Fund.

 6                SENATOR LANZA:   Will the sponsor 

 7   continue to yield?  

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

 9   you continue to yield?  

10                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Yes.

12                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

13   Mr. President.  I always listen.  And I'm just 

14   trying to understand the similarities or perhaps 

15   differences between this and the City of 

16   New York's bill.

17                So does any of the money, Senator 

18   Kennedy, generated here go to the people who 

19   provide the cameras, manufacture the cameras, 

20   install the cameras?  In other words, does any of 

21   this money go to someone other than the 

22   government of the City of Buffalo?

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

24   Mr. President, I've been clear where the funding 

25   goes.  It goes to the city General Fund.  


                                                               1933

 1                But this is not about bottom-line 

 2   revenues.  As a matter of fact, to quote Amy 

 3   Cohen, the mother who lost her son Sammy 

 4   Eckstein, today at our press conference she said 

 5   specifically -- and she was not promoted to say 

 6   such a thing -- she came up to the microphone, 

 7   she said:  "This is not a money grab, this is 

 8   about saving lives and protecting our children."

 9                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

10   continue to yield?  

11                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

12   the sponsor continue to yield.

13                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Yes.

15                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

16   Mr. President, the reason why I asked that 

17   question, Senator Kennedy, is because in New York 

18   City the lion's share of the money goes to 

19   private interests, lobbyists -- not lobbyists, 

20   but interests that -- well-heeled folks up here 

21   that have lobbied both houses seeking that these 

22   cameras be installed.  And the fact of the matter 

23   is it's because they've made tens of millions of 

24   dollars from those cameras already.  Not the City 

25   of New York, but these private entities that were 


                                                               1934

 1   part of the manufacture, the installation, and a 

 2   whole host of other people that are just grabbing 

 3   onto the money.  

 4                And I was just wondering if that was 

 5   going to be the case in the City of Buffalo, or 

 6   would all the money be going to the City of 

 7   Buffalo?

 8                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 9   Mr. President, the fines that the City of Buffalo 

10   sets, at their request for this legislation, will 

11   go to the city General Fund to be utilized how 

12   the city so chooses.

13                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

14   continue to yield?  

15                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

16   you continue to yield?

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

18                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

19   Mr. President.  Senator Kennedy, I wish you had 

20   written the New York City law, because that's 

21   very encouraging.  I think that's where the money 

22   ought to go.

23                Through you, Mr. President, would 

24   this bill require that a stop sign be placed at 

25   the four corners surrounding every single school 


                                                               1935

 1   in the City of Buffalo?  

 2                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 3   Mr. President, no.

 4                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

 5   continue to yield?

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

 7   the sponsor continue to yield?  

 8                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 9                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

10   Mr. President.  Senator Kennedy, which do you 

11   believe would be more effective in slowing 

12   motorists down around schools, a stop sign or a 

13   speed camera that they may or may not know is 

14   there?

15                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

16   Mr. President, if a driver is paying attention, 

17   as they so should, they will recognize, 

18   number one, that the zone they are entering, 

19   based upon the signage delineated, is a school 

20   zone with children crossing and that they should 

21   slow down during this time.  There should not be 

22   a problem.  

23                The problem is that there have been 

24   too many drivers that have been driving 

25   recklessly, carelessly, not thinking about 


                                                               1936

 1   anybody but themselves, and have put our children 

 2   and our children's families in harm's way.

 3                It has been noted by the Buffalo 

 4   public school leadership that there have been at 

 5   least four close calls this year alone, and that 

 6   there has been an increase in reckless driving.  

 7   And again, I will quote from the Buffalo News, 

 8   from Buffalo Public Schools' Will Keresztes, that 

 9   a motorist drove through a red light at high 

10   speed.  Other incidents included missing crossing 

11   guards, which left families on their own trying 

12   to get kids safely across the street.

13                And, quote, "Those tragedies were 

14   only avoided with an awful lot of luck and God's 

15   presence, really, on behalf of children and 

16   parents that could have been victims of some 

17   terrible catastrophes."

18                I believe in God, I believe in the 

19   power of prayer.  I also believe in the law.  And 

20   the law should be reflective, in Buffalo and 

21   Western New York, as it is in the City of 

22   New York, in keeping our children safe.  And we 

23   shouldn't have to depend on luck to get our 

24   kids to and from school safely.

25                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, 


                                                               1937

 1   would the sponsor continue to yield?  

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

 3   the sponsor continue to yield?  

 4                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 5                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

 6   Mr. President.  Senator Kennedy, in New York City 

 7   these cameras are triggered when a motorist is 

 8   traveling 10 miles more than the speed limit.  Is 

 9   that also the case with respect to the program in 

10   Buffalo?

11                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

12   Mr. President, yes.

13                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

14   continue to yield?  

15                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

16   the sponsor continue to yield?  

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

18                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

19   Mr. President.  Senator Kennedy, why not 5 miles 

20   more than the speed limit?

21                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

22   Mr. President.  Because mirroring what the City 

23   of New York had implemented back in 2013 as a 

24   pilot and then expanded, and then expanded 

25   further today, that is the number that has proven 


                                                               1938

 1   to be effective.

 2                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

 3   continue to yield?  

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

 5   the sponsor continue to yield?  

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 7                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

 8   Mr. President.  Senator Kennedy, if the idea is 

 9   to slow people down and not have them speed 

10   through school zones, wouldn't it be even more 

11   effective to make sure that people get a ticket 

12   when they exceed the speed limit by even one mile 

13   an hour and not 10 miles an hour?

14                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

15   Mr. President.  If my colleague Senator Lanza 

16   would like to advance legislation to that effect, 

17   we in the Transportation Committee would 

18   certainly consider that.

19                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

20   continue to yield?  

21                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

22   the sponsor continue to yield?  

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

24                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

25   Mr. President.  It's not my bill.  I didn't write 


                                                               1939

 1   it.  But the bill is written that it would allow 

 2   motorists to exceed the speed limit by 10 miles 

 3   an hour before they get a ticket.  And I just 

 4   wonder why that is.  I understand that's the case 

 5   in New York City.

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Would the Senator 

 7   yield for a question?

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

 9   the Senator yield for a question?  

10                SENATOR LANZA:   Oh, of course, yes.

11                SENATOR KENNEDY:   What speed limit 

12   would you suggest?  

13                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President.  Well, I'm just trying to get my 

15   mind around this whole concept.  So the idea that 

16   is being floated is that if anyone exceeds the 

17   speed limit in a school zone that this might lead 

18   to tragedy and that we don't want people speeding 

19   in the speed zones.  So as we read the law, 

20   because the law is important, it's been pointed 

21   out a number of times, as soon as you're driving 

22   one mile past the speed limit, you are speeding.  

23                And so, you know, I could suggest a 

24   lot of things, but the bill before us would allow 

25   you to go 10 miles above the speed limit before 


                                                               1940

 1   you receive a ticket.

 2                I'm sorry, does that answer your 

 3   question, Senator Kennedy?

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   

 5   Senator Lanza, please go through the chair.

 6                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

 7   Mr. President, would you ask Senator Kennedy if 

 8   I've answered his question?  

 9                (Laughter.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

11   Senator Kennedy, has he answered your question?

12                SENATOR KENNEDY:   In part.  It 

13   answers my question in part.

14                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

15   continue to yield?

16                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

17   the sponsor continue to yield?  

18                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

19                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

20   Mr. President.  So does the sponsor believe that 

21   a motorist, as he described, the hypothetical 

22   one -- or even the real one -- that is so craven, 

23   so uncaring of the safety of children around 

24   schools, that would speed through a school zone, 

25   given all that, does the sponsor believe that the 


                                                               1941

 1   threat of a $50 fine would prevent this craven 

 2   individual who doesn't care about kids to change 

 3   their behavior and actually not speed through a 

 4   speed zone?

 5                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 6   Mr. President, yes.  And we have data to prove 

 7   it.  Nearly 80 percent -- over 80 percent of 

 8   individuals who had received a ticket in the 

 9   New York City school camera zones were not repeat 

10   offenders.

11                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, on 

12   the bill.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   On the 

14   bill.

15                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, 

16   first, I would like to thank Senator Kennedy to 

17   allow me to ask questions on the Buffalo bill 

18   when in actuality I had some questions about the 

19   New York City bill.  And he was a good sport.  

20   But they are very similar bills, they do the same 

21   thing.  And let me tell you the trouble I have.

22                First, I agree that in the right 

23   place at the right time, as part of a more broad 

24   policy, speed cameras have their place.  I just 

25   don't understand why this is what we are leading 


                                                               1942

 1   with when clearly -- I mean, we can go back and 

 2   forth, but I don't think there's anyone in this 

 3   chamber who doesn't agree with the fact that a 

 4   stop sign would do more to slow a motorist down 

 5   at an intersection than a camera that they may or 

 6   may not know is there.  In New York City, clearly 

 7   they won't know it's there, because the city 

 8   doesn't want to put up a sign.  Hopefully Buffalo 

 9   will do it differently.  It sounds like there's a 

10   chance they will.

11                But honestly, we've put a bill -- 

12   I've put a bill I've authored on this floor, 

13   we've all voted for it.  It would do just that.  

14   I've heard this idea that we shouldn't put 

15   politics over safety.  I agree.  We shouldn't put 

16   money over safety either.  It's probably worse.  

17                Let's put my bill back on the floor 

18   or someone pick up the bill.  Here's what that 

19   bill does.  It says that at every corner around 

20   every school, we ought to put a stop sign.  Let 

21   me tell you why I know -- I keep hearing about 

22   how this is proven and we've got demonstrated 

23   data to show that this is effective.  Let me tell 

24   you how I know that works.  

25                In my district there's a school, a 


                                                               1943

 1   lot of people were speeding and there were a few 

 2   accidents.  And every year I asked the New York 

 3   City DOT if they would consider putting a stop 

 4   sign there, even before we would get this bill.  

 5   And they would tell me, Yeah, I support your 

 6   bill, Senator Lanza, it sounds great.  We'd pass 

 7   it here.  They'd run over to the other chamber 

 8   and they'd lobby hard to make sure that it didn't 

 9   get passed, that bill.

10                Year after year I asked for a stop 

11   sign to be placed there.  And year after year the 

12   city gave me every reason why it was not only 

13   possible, but that they didn't want to do it.  

14   They gave me police reports, they talked about 

15   road geometry, they said they couldn't do it, 

16   doesn't work.

17                So I'm a good listener around here, 

18   I pay attention to the way people do things.  And 

19   I took a page out of their book.  I used some 

20   hyperbole -- because I heard in this argument 

21   over the years on speed cameras if you don't 

22   support this legislation, there's going to be 

23   blood on your hands and we're going to be outside 

24   your office, we're going to be outside your 

25   house.  And I've heard some activists say the 


                                                               1944

 1   same thing.  Shouldn't do it, but I did it.  

 2   Stood out there at that corner and I said, You 

 3   know, we're getting close.  As Senator Kennedy 

 4   said, there are a lot of close calls out there 

 5   around schools.  So we're getting real close, and 

 6   my message to the City of New York is, God forbid 

 7   something happens here, it's on you.  

 8                You know, about a month later there 

 9   was a stop sign there.  It's still there.  And 

10   the funny thing about that stop sign is that they 

11   took away the speed camera that was there now.  

12   You know why?  Because it's not ringing up the 

13   register anymore.  That's a fact.  They took away 

14   the speed camera because the stop sign had this 

15   very strange effect on people.  Not only did they 

16   slow down, they stopped.  

17                And the reason why I dispute some of 

18   this -- by the way, if I could, Mr. President -- 

19   Senator Krueger, I'd like to know the street in 

20   Manhattan that you could speed on.  I want to see 

21   it.  Because I've spent a good part of my life 

22   commuting, going to school, to Manhattan.  I 

23   haven't seen that street.

24                You know, on Staten Island there are 

25   a lot of streets that are large that there aren't 


                                                               1945

 1   a lot of cars there and there aren't a lot of 

 2   accidents, either.  And it seems that that's 

 3   where the city wants to do it.  I hope that 

 4   doesn't happen in Buffalo.

 5                But I think the proof that this is 

 6   not the most effective way to go, at least not 

 7   the most effective first step to take -- because 

 8   I agree -- and by the way, I know Senator Kennedy 

 9   is doing this to help ensure the safety of 

10   children.  So I don't want that to be lost in my 

11   remarks.  But I don't understand why this is the 

12   first step here and in New York City.  

13                The reason why I know this is not 

14   the best first step is because the speed cameras 

15   in New York City that have been there, they 

16   are -- they are ringing like cash registers.  

17   Which means people keep speeding.  It's the only 

18   reason why they're generating millions upon 

19   millions of dollars.

20                And I heard the theory with the 

21   speed cameras is -- and I agree it makes a lot of 

22   sense -- is that once you are issued a ticket 

23   because you've gone through this -- you've sped 

24   through this zone, you're going to receive a 

25   ticket -- and it does make sense.  I've heard 


                                                               1946

 1   Senator Kennedy say it, Senator Krueger say it.  

 2   It does make sense that this might alter your 

 3   behavior and that the first time, once it's 

 4   issued, you might not do it again, that it 

 5   dramatically decreases that person from going 

 6   through or speeding through the zone.

 7                The problem I have with that is that 

 8   since we know these cameras just keep ringing up 

 9   the dollars, which means that people keep 

10   speeding through -- perhaps the majority of them 

11   are first-time speeders through the zone.  But 

12   here's the problem with that.  What if the first 

13   time, Mr. President, that someone speeds through 

14   this school zone, the first time they do it, they 

15   God forbid hit a kid.  The only thing that's 

16   going happen as a result of this legislation is 

17   that they're going to get a ticket and they're 

18   going to pay a fine.  And that kid will have 

19   still been hit by that motorist.  

20                That is why I don't believe that 

21   this really does what everyone is saying it will 

22   do.  And I really, truly believe that it is going 

23   to do nothing more than provide a false sense of 

24   security for all of us parents -- I'm one too -- 

25   and fool people into believing that it's now safe 


                                                               1947

 1   around schools.

 2                As I've said, I don't want to 

 3   completely discount the benefit that may be 

 4   provided in terms of safety by cameras, but let's 

 5   not lead first.  Again, I'm suspicious by nature.  

 6   It just leads me to believe, given the experience 

 7   in New York City -- not by the sponsor, not by 

 8   any member here, but by the governments back home 

 9   in New York City and Buffalo -- that really what 

10   they're after here is the dollars.  Because there 

11   are better ways to ensure safety around schools.  

12   And not once, not once have I heard from them 

13   here in Albany advocating any of those measures.

14                So unfortunately, when it comes time 

15   to vote, Mr. President, I'm going to be in the 

16   negative.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

18   Senator Jacobs.

19                SENATOR JACOBS:   Thank you, 

20   Mr. President.  On the bill.

21                As a former Buffalo school board 

22   member, I want to commend Senator Kennedy for 

23   offering this legislation, and Assemblywoman 

24   Peoples as well.  And it is my great hope that 

25   the statistics that have been referenced, we will 


                                                               1948

 1   see similar statistics about this being a 

 2   deterrent in terms of dangerous activity around 

 3   our schools and driving.

 4                It's my hope on a piece of 

 5   legislation, if the intent is to keep children 

 6   safe, that everything is done within that piece 

 7   of legislation possible to do that.  And the one 

 8   element of this legislation I do lament was 

 9   referenced in some of the questions that the 

10   revenue that is going to be generated by this 

11   ticket writing is just going into the General 

12   Fund of the city, with a hope that the city will 

13   spend this on investments around these schools to 

14   do other things, like stop signs.  To do other 

15   things like speed bumps or crosswalk bump-outs.  

16   Those things that would help in terms of 

17   additionally beyond the cameras to assure -- 

18   lighting.  Actually fixing potholes.  Because we 

19   have situations where people erratically drive to 

20   avoid a pothole, and you don't want that around a 

21   school zone.  

22                In particular as a school board 

23   member, I would encourage that these funds go to 

24   pay for something I think is very effective, bus 

25   aides.  Which are not aidable by state law.  Bus 


                                                               1949

 1   aides which ride along on every bus and come out 

 2   and escort the children out as they leave the 

 3   buses.  When I was on the school board, we were 

 4   fortunate to have a bus aide on every single one 

 5   of our buses.  That has lapsed due to the 

 6   financial stress the Buffalo schools have 

 7   experienced.

 8                And I would be remiss, putting my  

 9   advocate as a school board member back on -- 

10   unfortunately, the City of Buffalo gives the 

11   lowest amount on a percentage basis to their 

12   school district of any city in the State of 

13   New York, only about 10 percent.  So this is a 

14   golden opportunity for more money to go directly 

15   to a significant need, which usually is not 

16   aidable by the state, security measures in and 

17   around the schools.

18                So I support this legislation.  I'm 

19   glad it's done.  I just hope perhaps in another 

20   piece of legislation or at the level of the City 

21   of Buffalo City Council, they would take it upon 

22   themselves to put this into a lockbox, to a 

23   dedicated fund, to enhance this bill to make sure 

24   that we're doing beyond just the cameras, but 

25   every measure possible with these new resources 


                                                               1950

 1   to assure that every child is safe.

 2                Thank you, Mr. President.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Is 

 4   there any other Senator wishing to be heard?

 5                Hearing none, the debate is closed.  

 6                The Secretary will ring the bell.

 7                Senator Serrano.

 8                SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                By unanimous consent, I ask that the 

11   bill that we have before the house be restored to 

12   the noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

14   Without objection, so ordered.

15                SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   There 

17   is a home-rule message at the desk.  

18                The Secretary will read the last 

19   section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 14.  This 

21   act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

22   shall have become a law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Call 

24   the roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               1951

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

 2   Senator Kennedy to explain his vote.

 3                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.  

 5                First of all, let me thank our 

 6   conference leader, Senator Andrea 

 7   Stewart-Cousins, for bringing this bill to the 

 8   floor so expeditiously as we are also passing the 

 9   lifesaving measures in the City of New York.

10                I want to thank my colleagues on the 

11   Transportation Committee for their support in 

12   advancing this forward.  

13                I want to thank my colleagues on the 

14   other side of the aisle for the robust debate.  

15   But I've got to tell you, seeing all those hands 

16   go up is extremely disheartening.  The fact that 

17   we can approve these lifesaving measures in the 

18   City of New York and then, when a bill comes up 

19   for the City of Buffalo, there is tremendous 

20   opposition to this from the other side is rather 

21   unconscionable.  

22                And the fact of the matter is that 

23   our kids in the City of Buffalo deserve the same 

24   protections as the kids do in the City of 

25   New York.  That's what this is all about, 


                                                               1952

 1   providing safety for our children.  And doing it 

 2   in a way where it is equitable and there is 

 3   parity.  We've been talking about those words 

 4   quite a bit through this budget process.  And now 

 5   we have a chance to create equitable safety 

 6   measures in the state for our kids, and there's 

 7   opposition, greater opposition.  So that is 

 8   rather unfortunate.  

 9                But to the bill, the fact is that 

10   this is something that our children deserve in 

11   the City of Buffalo, this is something that our 

12   families deserve in the City of Buffalo.  

13   Supported, again, not only by the mayor of the 

14   city and the common council, via home rule 

15   resolution, but the Buffalo Public Schools, the 

16   District Parent Coordinating council of the 

17   Buffalo Public Schools, the New York League of 

18   Conservation Voters, the New York State 

19   Conference of Mayors, AARP -- the list goes on 

20   and on and on of support for this bill.  

21                Allowing the City of Buffalo to put 

22   in safety measures around our schools where 

23   they're desperately needed, where the leaders in 

24   the City of Buffalo are saying that there's an 

25   increase in reckless driving, an increase of 


                                                               1953

 1   drivers that are ignoring stop signs or red 

 2   lights or school crossing guards that are jumping 

 3   out of the way.  By putting this legislation 

 4   forward, we're simply doing the right thing.  

 5                And as I said earlier, we shouldn't 

 6   wait for a child to be struck or a family member 

 7   taking that child to school to be struck and 

 8   killed before the City of Buffalo does the right 

 9   thing.

10                I want to thank my colleague 

11   Majority Leader Assemblywoman Crystal 

12   Peoples-Stokes for advancing and passing this 

13   bill overwhelmingly in the Assembly.  

14                You know, one of the greatest things 

15   that I do, one of my most favorite things that I 

16   do on a very personal level when I am home, and 

17   it is a reminder to me that I am home, is taking 

18   my son to school and crossing two streets.  On 

19   Abbott Road -- we cross Narragensett, and then we 

20   cross Abbott Road.  And I know, because I'm one 

21   of them, the drivers each and every day are in a 

22   hurry to go to work or take their children to 

23   school or some other place, and I am just as much 

24   in a hurry.  But as I come upon the school, 

25   there's a crossing guard there, there is children 


                                                               1954

 1   and families moving around, on and off of the 

 2   sidewalk.  And there is an incredible amount of 

 3   traffic.  Just down the road, there's Lorraine 

 4   Elementary, there's Southside Elementary, where 

 5   one of those close calls occurred.  And across 

 6   the City of Buffalo, there are thoroughfares 

 7   where this reckless driving is happening each and 

 8   every day.

 9                We hope to deter that.  Data will 

10   prove that these drivers will recognize they're 

11   entering a school zone with these families, as 

12   their minds are occupied about getting to work or 

13   other places in the community.  It will calm 

14   traffic, and it will keep our children and 

15   families safe.  That is the bottom line.  

16                There is nothing in this legislation 

17   that prevents the City of Buffalo from adding 

18   stop signs or speed bumps or other delineations.  

19   This is simply another tool to keep our families 

20   safe.

21                And as I'm hearing from my 

22   colleagues different measures that they could put 

23   forward, this bill has been moving and moving 

24   quickly through committee.  None of these items 

25   were raised through the process, both privately 


                                                               1955

 1   and publicly.  None of this information came to 

 2   my attention.  

 3                So here we are.  And I would submit 

 4   to you, Mr. President and colleagues, if 

 5   individuals have other ways to keep our children 

 6   safe, we will absolutely consider them in the 

 7   Transportation Committee.  We are aggressive in 

 8   advancing pieces of legislation that are 

 9   technologically advanced and accomplish that 

10   goal, and this bill does all of the above.

11                I'm proud to support it.  And with 

12   that, Mr. President, I vote aye.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

14   Senator Kennedy votes affirmatively.

15                Senator Ranzenhofer.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you, 

17   Mr. President.

18                First of all, I'd like to thank 

19   those members who are actively involved.  And I 

20   think the amount of time that we have spent on 

21   this bill really reflects the fact that it's a 

22   very important piece of legislation and the fact 

23   that I think every member in this chamber is 

24   concerned about the issue.  So there's no 

25   difference on either side of the aisle in terms 


                                                               1956

 1   of people thinking that this is an important 

 2   issue, people being committed to school safety, 

 3   to traffic safety.  

 4                And I would like just to make one 

 5   comment, is that, you know, these are not new 

 6   concerns or new issues that were raised for the 

 7   first time today.  I remember being on the floor 

 8   a year ago and listening to these very same 

 9   comments that were made today as were made then.  

10                So Senator Kennedy and Senator 

11   Krueger, Senator Lanza, you know, I think by the 

12   comments that were made, I don't think there's a 

13   person in this chamber who doesn't feel that 

14   there is a way of accomplishing what needs to be 

15   done, and that is making sure that kids are safe.

16                And I'll just digress for a short 

17   second, is that we have a state highway in the 

18   Town of Amherst, between Senator Jacobs's 

19   district and my district, State Route 62, Niagara 

20   Falls Boulevard.  There, instead of -- as Senator 

21   Kennedy said, you know, we don't want to wait 

22   around and see if something happens.  On that 

23   particular highway, six people have been killed 

24   in the last couple of years.  And the state has 

25   done nothing on that issue.  


                                                               1957

 1                And I know Senator Jacobs, myself, 

 2   and everybody is very concerned.  And I wouldn't 

 3   even be so bold to say that, you know, the 

 4   Governor or the state is not concerned, that they 

 5   want kids killed.  But, you know, it doesn't have 

 6   the type of priority that it really deserves.  

 7                So going back to this particular 

 8   bill, I think what everybody is saying and 

 9   agreeing upon -- and I think there is more 

10   consensus and there is more agreement -- that 

11   people are concerned about school safety, people 

12   want kids to be safe, but there is healthy 

13   discussion and healthy dialogue about what is 

14   really the best way to protect kids.  

15                And I'm so glad and so heartened 

16   that Senator Kennedy agreed, you know, in the 

17   debate that he would, you know, help -- he would 

18   consider these and help pass additional 

19   legislation to actually accomplish some of the 

20   goals.  Which, you know, do we know whether or 

21   not it's going to work, yes or no.  But I think 

22   there is pretty strong support that there are 

23   other means of getting the job done.

24                I just want to harken back to a 

25   point that I made.  Again, I was so glad to hear 


                                                               1958

 1   Senator Kennedy enthusiastically say that this is 

 2   a good idea.  But really getting to the heart of 

 3   the matter, and that is dealing with the people 

 4   that are creating mayhem.  The drivers, the 

 5   owners that allow their vehicles to be in 

 6   constant violation of the law.  

 7                You know, a $50 fine, I'm glad that 

 8   there would be consideration to actually doing 

 9   something which might get these unsafe drivers 

10   off the roadway.

11                So again, you know, I think the 

12   theory and the heartfelt belief behind this 

13   legislation is good.  I think we have a long way 

14   to go to actually make sure and provide better 

15   assurances to the motoring public, to parents, to 

16   teachers, to people that are around school areas 

17   that we in the State Legislature can do a better 

18   job than we are starting with today in making 

19   sure that their kids are safe.

20                So again, I like the concept of the 

21   bill.  It doesn't do what I think needs to be 

22   done, and that is going after the offenders, 

23   really making sure that kids are safe around 

24   school.  So I'll be casting a vote today in the 

25   negative, Mr. President.  Thank you very much.


                                                               1959

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

 2   Senator Ranzenhofer in the negative.

 3                Announce the results.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5   Calendar Number 47, those Senators recorded in 

 6   the negative are Senators Akshar, Amedore, 

 7   Antonacci, Boyle, Flanagan, Funke, Jordan, Lanza, 

 8   LaValle, Ortt, Ranzenhofer, Robach, Serino, 

 9   Seward and Tedisco.

10                Ayes, 46.  Nays, 15.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   The 

12   bill is passed.

13                The Secretary will read.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 67, 

15   Senate Print 1130A, by Senator Benjamin, an act 

16   to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

18   Senator Robach.

19                SENATOR ROBACH:   Yes, 

20   Mr. President, would the former president of the 

21   Senate yield for a few questions?  

22                (Laughter.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Will 

24   you yield, Senator Benjamin?  

25                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   Yes.


                                                               1960

 1                SENATOR ROBACH:   Don't demote him.  

 2   Please, don't demote him.

 3                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   Thank you.

 4                SENATOR ROBACH:   Yeah, I just have 

 5   a quick question.  And I know it's late, but this 

 6   is important to me for a number of reasons.  

 7                Senator Benjamin, this bill 

 8   originally was only for New York City and then 

 9   got amended for the rest of the state.  Could you 

10   tell me what the reason was for that, please?  

11                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   Sure.  Through 

12   you, Mr. President, the reason for extending it 

13   to the entire state is because we want to make 

14   sure that in the State of New York, if a liquor 

15   store actually gets a liquor license, that the 

16   community knows about it.  And so that should 

17   apply whether it's in New York City or upstate.

18                And so just -- it's important to 

19   note that when you get a liquor license for a bar 

20   or a restaurant, you are required to notify the 

21   community in New York City.  I used to be chair 

22   of a community board, and whenever a bar or 

23   restaurant would seek a liquor license, they had 

24   to notify the community.  The community board had 

25   to know about it, and they had to publish 


                                                               1961

 1   something in the newspaper.

 2                It doesn't make sense to me that 

 3   liquor stores are able to not have to do the same 

 4   process.  

 5                And so this says in the entire State 

 6   of New York, if you are a liquor store and you 

 7   want a liquor license, before you get that 

 8   license you need to notify the State Liquor 

 9   Authority.  But before you do that, the community 

10   where you're looking to put your liquor store 

11   should know about it and should have a chance to 

12   comment.

13                I think that's a very simple bill.  

14   It has no cost to the state.  I don't want anyone 

15   to worry about any cost to the state.  There's no 

16   cost to the state.  There's some cost to the 

17   liquor store owner, because they have to notify 

18   the community about it.  But that is really the 

19   heart of this bill.

20                SENATOR ROBACH:   Through you, 

21   Mr. President.  Actually, this is good, maybe I'm 

22   a little bit -- 

23                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Are 

24   you asking the Senator to yield?  

25                SENATOR ROBACH:   Would he yield?  


                                                               1962

 1                I thought this would also apply 

 2   for -- and the main reason for this was, from 

 3   your memo --

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Are 

 5   you -- are you asking the sponsor to continue to 

 6   yield?  

 7                SENATOR ROBACH:   Yes, I just said 

 8   that.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Do you 

10   continue to yield?  

11                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   Of course.

12                SENATOR ROBACH:   Try to be as sharp 

13   as that president.  No, I'm only kidding.

14                (Laughter.)

15                SENATOR ROBACH:   I thought this 

16   would also apply to -- let's say there's an 

17   existing liquor store, a craft brewery, a 

18   off-premise establishment that just sells beer, 

19   and they change the case or change their space 

20   around inside of their business, they would then 

21   have to go through a notification process.  And, 

22   which I already think is excessive, State Liquor 

23   Authority law, you already have to apply to the 

24   state.  Now you're going to put another 

25   requirement on them even if they were changing a 


                                                               1963

 1   display case.  

 2                Would your bill apply to that 

 3   situation, Senator Benjamin?

 4                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   So only if 

 5   they're changing the store itself, 

 6   Senator Robach, would that be required.  And if 

 7   it's a renewal of the license or if there's a 

 8   substantial corporate change.  So for example, if 

 9   you have a new owner of the liquor store, the 

10   community should know about that.  We might 

11   approve of one owner but not approve of another.  

12   I mean, those are fair things. 

13                But if you change a display case, 

14   Senator Robach, that does not require you to go 

15   through this process.  But if you change the 

16   store, that should be notified to the community.

17                SENATOR ROBACH:   Through you, 

18   Mr. President.  I think this would be the last 

19   question before I go on the bill.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Does 

21   the sponsor continue to yield?

22                SENATOR ROBACH:   Would the 

23   sponsor --

24                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   I'll be happy to 

25   yield.


                                                               1964

 1                SENATOR ROBACH:   What would be the 

 2   cost to make that application?  And what would be 

 3   the fine if somebody didn't do that or there was 

 4   a discrepancy on what you say isn't altering the 

 5   store, but yet the Liquor Authority said it was, 

 6   simply for something that most people would 

 7   normally do in their business?  I'm just curious 

 8   what the cost to businesses would be.

 9                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   Well, first of 

10   all, this is pre you getting the license, 

11   correct?  

12                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Please 

13   direct your responses through the president.

14                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   Oh, through you, 

15   Mr. President.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Thank 

17   you.

18                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   I'm just so 

19   excited to get to him.

20                (Laughter.)

21                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   But through you, 

22   Mr. President, in the case of a new application, 

23   before you actually get the license, you have to 

24   articulate what your plans are.  And so that 

25   would have to occur in advance of you getting the 


                                                               1965

 1   license, and obviously you'd go through this 

 2   process.

 3                SENATOR ROBACH:   Okay.  I could ask 

 4   more -- I'll go on the bill, Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   On the 

 6   bill.

 7                SENATOR ROBACH:   I don't believe 

 8   that -- I understand the intent.  I believe the 

 9   bill does much more than what's being said here.  

10                And I'm going to say, off of this 

11   bill, this will be no secret to my colleagues who 

12   paid attention, I think the State Liquor 

13   Authority does a terrible job of how long they 

14   take to serve businesses, the requirements they 

15   make.  It's kind of ironic that we're in New York 

16   where we're letting shooters, murderers, 

17   pedophiles out of jail earlier, but if you want 

18   to have a business that sells liquor, you're 

19   guilty till proven innocent, even to get your 

20   license in the first place.  

21                I believe this bill would go above 

22   and beyond that and now say to anybody -- and I'm 

23   very concerned about craft brewing.  I'll give 

24   you one where we've loosened the regulations and 

25   the taxes and the business is booming, yet if 


                                                               1966

 1   you're a liquor store, a craft brewery, sell 

 2   off-premise, or even trying to get a liquor 

 3   license for a tavern, a bar or a restaurant, it's 

 4   very, very onerous and still takes months.  

 5                Shocking to me, the Liquor Authority 

 6   will say, well, we've got the wait down in 

 7   upstate New York from 12 months to 10 months, but 

 8   you have to own the building to apply, be paying 

 9   rent and do all those things.

10                So I would suggest -- I don't think 

11   it's a big problem.  I think local control is 

12   better, does some of those things.  But I think 

13   for existing businesses, this is going to be very 

14   onerous, unnecessary.  And I would say if you're 

15   out of the five boroughs of Manhattan {sic}, you 

16   should be against this bill.  This is a problem 

17   or a -- I think really not a problem where we 

18   live.  I've never had -- I was going to ask you 

19   that, Senator Benjamin.  I've never had anybody 

20   come up to me and say they feel like this is a 

21   problem or it's jeopardizing them.

22                I have had many, many businesses or 

23   people even go out of business or run out of 

24   money waiting for licenses or the overzealous 

25   Liquor Authority, with no complaints from the 


                                                               1967

 1   public, wreaking havoc on people trying to make a 

 2   living in New York State.

 3                So I'm going to vote no.  And I 

 4   would suggest that other people -- unless it 

 5   really is that much of a necessity, is the 

 6   original bill inside the five boroughs of 

 7   Manhattan -- vote no also.

 8                Thank you, Mr. President.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

10   Senator Robach votes negatively.

11                Are there any other Senators wishing 

12   to be heard?  

13                Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

14   closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

15                Senator Serrano.

16                SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

17   Mr. President.  I'd ask at this time, by 

18   unanimous consent, that we restore this bill to 

19   the noncontroversial calendar.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

21   Without objection, so ordered.

22                SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Read 

25   the last section.


                                                               1968

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   Call 

 4   the roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   The 

 7   former presiding officer, Senator Benjamin, to 

 8   explain his vote.

 9                (Laughter.)

10                SENATOR BENJAMIN:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. Chair.  

12                I rise because I want to make it 

13   clear to the body that in certain communities in 

14   the State of New York, there are oversaturation 

15   of liquor stores.  There are certain communities 

16   where on every single block there is a liquor 

17   store, and in some cases there's more than one on 

18   a block.  

19                And all this bill is saying is that 

20   if you are looking to open a liquor store, before 

21   you are granted the right to do so, the community 

22   must be notified and have a chance to opine on 

23   the matter to the SLA and to make their voices 

24   heard.  

25                Community boards, where there's a 


                                                               1969

 1   local city clerk or a town -- communities need to 

 2   know the purveyance of liquor in their 

 3   communities.  As the father of a new baby girl, I 

 4   would like to know when liquor stores are being 

 5   opened in proximity to my daughter.  

 6                I also would think if you send your 

 7   children to school, you would like to know how 

 8   close a liquor store might or might not be to 

 9   your children.

10                So this is not onerous.  We're not, 

11   you know, cutting off anyone's arm.  All we're 

12   saying is that if you're going to open a liquor 

13   store or you want to open a liquor store, you 

14   need to provide notification to the community by 

15   two ways:  One, in the newspaper or the local 

16   newspaper, you let the community know; and, two, 

17   that you let the local community board or 

18   whatever your equivalent is in your town know.

19                I think this is a good bill.  It 

20   moves New York forward.  And I encourage all of 

21   my colleagues to vote aye.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

23   Senator Hoylman.

24                SENATOR HOYLMAN:   I just wanted to 

25   rise and support this legislation and commend my 


                                                               1970

 1   colleague Senator Benjamin.

 2                What we're talking about here is 

 3   more community input for something that is as 

 4   controversial in some neighborhoods as a liquor 

 5   store.  We shouldn't be afraid of hearing from 

 6   our local neighbors about their opinion, whether 

 7   it be in Binghamton or Brooklyn.

 8                So I'm very grateful to Senator 

 9   Benjamin for advancing a bill that not only 

10   provides more public input but helps us as 

11   legislators represent our communities better.  

12   And I vote in the affirmative.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

14   Senator Hoylman votes affirmatively.

15                Senator Benjamin, who I hope will be 

16   here real soon, also votes affirmatively.

17                Senator Little.

18                SENATOR LITTLE:   Yes, I would just 

19   like to speak very quickly and explain my vote.  

20                And my vote is a no vote.  Because I 

21   represent a very large area of this state; it's 

22   bigger than the State of Connecticut.  And for 

23   someone to open a liquor store or a bar in my 

24   area, there are numerous steps where you notify 

25   the town and then you deal with the State Liquor 


                                                               1971

 1   Authority, and it takes a long time.  It's 

 2   constant, constant, we're hearing, you know, how 

 3   much longer is this going take.

 4                We have enough restrictions.  

 5   Putting more restrictions and more expense on 

 6   small businesses in New York State is certainly 

 7   not what I'm here for.  So I vote no.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

 9   Senator Little votes negatively.

10                Announce the results.

11                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12   Calendar Number 67, those Senators voting in the 

13   negative are Senators Amedore, Antonacci, 

14   Flanagan, Funke, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

15   Jacobs, Jordan, LaValle, Little, Ortt, 

16   Ranzenhofer, Ritchie, Robach, Serino, Seward and 

17   Tedisco.

18                Ayes, 43.  Nays, 18.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   The 

20   bill is passed.

21                Senator Serrano, that completes the 

22   reading of the controversial calendar.

23                SENATOR SERRANO:   Mr. President, 

24   thank you.

25                Can you call on Senator Griffo for 


                                                               1972

 1   motions.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:    

 3   Motions and resolutions.  Senator Griffo.

 4                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Mr. President, on 

 5   behalf of Senator Flanagan, I would move that the 

 6   following bills be discharged from their 

 7   respective committees and be recommitted with 

 8   instructions to strike the enacting clause:  

 9   Senate Bill 867, 888, 920, 954, 970, 1006, 1043, 

10   1020.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   It is 

12   so ordered.

13                Senator Griffo.

14                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Mr. President, I 

15   also move that the following bills, on behalf of 

16   Senator Flanagan, be discharged from their 

17   respective committees and be recommitted with 

18   instructions to strike the enacting clause:  

19   Senate Bills 882, 887, 898, 974, 991, 992, 998, 

20   999, 1001, 1041, 1042, and 1045.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   It is 

22   so ordered.

23                Senator Serrano.

24                SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.


                                                               1973

 1                Is there any further business at the 

 2   desk?

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   There 

 4   is no further business at the desk.

 5                SENATOR SERRANO:   Okay, thank you, 

 6   Mr. President.  That being the case, I move that 

 7   we adjourn until Wednesday, March 20th, at 

 8   11:00 a.m.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT SEPÚLVEDA:   On 

10   motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

11   tomorrow, March 20th, at 11:00 a.m.

12                SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.

14                (Whereupon, at 6:10 p.m., the Senate 

15   adjourned.)

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