Regular Session - March 29, 2019

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                   March 29, 2019

11                     11:13 a.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR BRIAN A. BENJAMIN, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 3   Senate will come to order.  

 4                I ask everyone present to please 

 5   rise and repeat with me the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7   the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 9   Reverend Sonia Chambers, senior pastor of 

10   Standard Bearer Ministries in Rosedale, will 

11   deliver today's invocation.  

12                Reverend Chambers.

13                REVEREND CHAMBERS:   Good morning.  

14                Can we bow our heads.  

15                Father, we just thank You and we 

16   just praise You for this time.  Father, we thank 

17   You for every legislative body here.  Cover each 

18   and every person, their families -- bring unity, 

19   even now, in the name of Jesus.  

20                Father, I thank You for covering 

21   New York State.  We thank You that wisdom is 

22   being poured down on each and every man and each 

23   and every woman.  We thank You that bipartisan 

24   lines can be connected.  We thank You, O God, 

25   that You're going to do something new in this 


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 1   house.  We thank You, O God, that You're going to 

 2   do something perfect for Your will.  I thank You, 

 3   O God, that You're taking care of the people and 

 4   You're taking care of the families, and 

 5   furthermore, You're taking care of New York.

 6                We thank You that You're doing it 

 7   for Your glory.  We thank You that You're doing 

 8   it for Your honor.  And we thank You that each 

 9   and every person here will be blessed.  I speak a 

10   blessing over their lives, even now, in Jesus' 

11   name.  Amen.

12                SENATOR SANDERS:   Mr. President, I 

13   want to thank Reverend Chambers for being here, 

14   and I want to ask that the courtesies of the 

15   house be extended to her and her flock.  

16                Thank you very much, sir.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Reading 

18   of the Journal.

19                THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, 

20   Thursday, March 28, 2019, the Senate met pursuant 

21   to adjournment.  The Journal of Wednesday, 

22   March 27, 2019, was read and approved.  On 

23   motion, Senate adjourned.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Without 

25   objection, the Journal stands approved as read.


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 1                Presentation of petitions.

 2                Messages from the Assembly.

 3                Messages from the Governor.

 4                Reports of standing committees.

 5                Reports of select committees.

 6                Communications and reports from 

 7   state officers.

 8                Motions and resolutions.

 9                Senator Gianaris.

10                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

11   on behalf of Senator Kennedy, on page 20 I offer 

12   the following amendments to Calendar 347, Senate 

13   Print 3657, and ask that said bill retain its 

14   place on the Third Reading Calendar.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

16   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

17   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

18                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please call on 

19   Senator Griffo.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

21   Griffo.

22                SENATOR GRIFFO:   Mr. President, on 

23   behalf of Senator Boyle, I submit the following 

24   Senate Bill, 700, and ask that it be discharged 

25   from its respective committee and recommitted 


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 1   with instructions to strike the enacting clause.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   It is 

 3   so ordered.

 4                Senator Gianaris.

 5                SENATOR GIANARIS:   I now move to 

 6   adopt the Resolution Calendar, with the exception 

 7   of Resolution 853.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   All in 

 9   favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar, with 

10   the exception of Resolution 853, please signify 

11   by saying aye.

12                (Response of "Aye.")

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

14   Opposed, nay.

15                (No response.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

17   Resolution Calendar is adopted.

18                Senator Gianaris.

19                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can we please 

20   take up previously adopted Resolution 783, by 

21   Senator Harckham, read that resolution in its 

22   entirety, and recognize Senator Harckham.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

24   Secretary will read.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 


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 1   Number 783, by Senator Harckham, recognizing 

 2   March 29, 2019, as Vietnam Veterans Day.  

 3                "WHEREAS, The State of New York 

 4   takes great pride in acknowledging days of 

 5   observance of significant historic events; and 

 6                "WHEREAS, March 29, 2019, has been 

 7   declared Vietnam Veterans Day; and 

 8                "WHEREAS, The United States carried 

 9   out its first combat mission against the 

10   Viet Cong on January 12, 1962; in Operation 

11   Chopper, United States Army pilots lifted more 

12   than 1,000 South Vietnam service members over 

13   jungle and underbrush to capture a National 

14   Liberation Front stronghold near Saigon; and 

15                "WHEREAS, The last American troops 

16   left Vietnam on March 29, 1973; and 

17                "WHEREAS, During the 11-year war, 

18   Americans from different backgrounds, races, and 

19   creeds banded together to fight against the 

20   Viet Cong; and 

21                "WHEREAS, More than 3 million 

22   Americans served their country, and more than 

23   58,000 sacrificed their lives; the names of those 

24   lost are forever engraved in the black granite 

25   Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C.; and   


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 1                "WHEREAS, The Vietnam War era was a 

 2   tumultuous time in America; when our brave 

 3   service members returned home, often with 

 4   physical and emotional  scars, the voices of 

 5   those who opposed the war sadly overcame those 

 6   who supported our troops; and 

 7                "WHEREAS, The State of New York 

 8   wishes to show its Vietnam veterans the respect 

 9   and appreciation they deserve, but did not always 

10   get when they returned home; now, therefore, be 

11   it 

12                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

13   Body pause in its deliberations to recognize 

14   March 29, 2019, as Vietnam Veterans Day, and to 

15   thank our brave Vietnam veterans for their 

16   honorable service to their country; and be it 

17   further 

18                "RESOLVED, that copies of this 

19   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 

20   Vietnam veteran organizations."

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

22   Harckham on the resolution.

23                SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.

25                I also want to thank Senator Brooks 


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 1   for cosponsoring this important resolution.

 2                I've spoken on this floor with pride 

 3   about the service of my father and my grandfather 

 4   in World War II and World War I.  Those who 

 5   fought in World War II were called the "Greatest 

 6   Generation," and with good reason.  

 7                But there was another great 

 8   generation that didn't always get the accolades 

 9   that it deserved, and they came from places like 

10   Peekskill and Carmel and Patterson and 

11   Mount Kisco.  And they went to a place called 

12   Vietnam because their country asked them to.  

13   When they were called to service, they went.  

14   They went professionally, they went capably, they 

15   fought hard, and they brought honor to themselves 

16   and to their country.  And yet when they came 

17   back, their country did not always recognize the 

18   sacrifices and the accomplishments that they 

19   made.

20                And thankfully, as time has passed, 

21   we've begun to recognize our veterans for their 

22   incredible service.  But when they came back, 

23   they didn't stop serving, because they were there 

24   for each other.  They came back with physical 

25   illnesses, they came back with wounds, they came 


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 1   back with psychological scars.  And while the 

 2   rest of society was not necessarily focused on 

 3   their pain and their plight after their service, 

 4   they were.  And they were there for each other, 

 5   and they continue to be there for each other.  

 6                For instance, in things like the 

 7   Dwyer Peer-to-Peer Program, which I'm proud to 

 8   say we in a bipartisan fashion have put back in 

 9   the budget.  Just a valuable program of one vet 

10   helping another vet.

11                And so today we gather here in a 

12   bipartisan way to honor their service.  We have 

13   gentlemen here from Westchester and Putnam in my 

14   district, but we have Vietnam veterans from all 

15   our districts.  So today I'm proud to honor 

16   Karl Rhode, Arthur Hanley, James McCarthy, 

17   John Mastromarino, Jim Martin, Salvatore 

18   Bellanconi, Harry Sherblom, Joseph P. Reynolds, 

19   and Frank Goderre, as this legislative body today 

20   pauses to honor Vietnam veterans and we declare 

21   this Vietnam Veterans Day.

22                So, Mr. President, I humbly ask that 

23   you allow them all the privileges that this 

24   chamber affords and all the respect from all of 

25   the members of this esteemed body.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 2   Brooks on the resolution.

 3                SENATOR BROOKS:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.

 5                Today is Vietnam Veterans Day.  This 

 6   war and the events that took place during this 

 7   war changed America.  The war began when I was in 

 8   elementary school.  When it was time to go to 

 9   college, the war was still going on.  The war 

10   began under President Kennedy by sending some 

11   advisors.  And over the course of the war, four 

12   different presidents would serve as 

13   commander-in-chief during this war.

14                During this time we would see the 

15   assassination of a president of the United 

16   States.  We'd see the passage of a Civil Rights 

17   Act.  We'd see President Johnson elect not to 

18   seek reelection because of the war.  We'd see an 

19   assassination of the civil rights leader Martin 

20   Luther King, the assassination of a presidential 

21   candidate and a Senator of this state, Robert 

22   Kennedy.  We'd see the election and the 

23   resignation of Richard Nixon as president, and 

24   we'd see the installation of Gerald Ford, the 

25   first unelected president in our nation's 


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 1   history.

 2                The war started with some troops 

 3   that were in Vietnam to serve as advisors.  As 

 4   the war continued to grow and expand, the support 

 5   for the war was on decline.  Vietnam was the 

 6   first war that ever came into our living rooms.  

 7   Every night we saw that war on television, we saw 

 8   the horrors of what war really was.  The words 

 9   and the music of the day reflected the war and 

10   the changing attitudes.  

11                There was a line in one of the 

12   songs, "You're old enough to kill but not old 

13   enough to vote.  You don't believe in war, but 

14   what's that gun you're totin'?"  Many felt that 

15   our country was on the eve of destruction.  

16   Protests across the nation grew.  On colleges and 

17   universities across the nation, protestors took 

18   over campuses.  In Ohio, National Guard units 

19   that were called to restore order resulted in 

20   four students being killed.  The protests began 

21   to focus beyond just the political leaders and 

22   suddenly the members of the service were becoming 

23   targets of the protests.  Finally, after 11 

24   years, more than 58,000 soldiers being lost, more 

25   than 3 million individuals serving, President 


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 1   Ford returned the troops home.  But when they 

 2   came home, they didn't have the welcome that 

 3   troops normally have.  They didn't hear the 

 4   thank-yous that troops normally heard.  

 5                We're honored today to have veterans 

 6   of that war.  These men, like those who took up 

 7   arms to free this nation and create this nation, 

 8   those who took up arms to maintain this as a 

 9   single nation, those that stormed the beaches on 

10   D-Day were all heroes.  These men that are here 

11   in this room today -- and all the veterans of 

12   Vietnam -- were heroes.  But they never received 

13   the welcome home they deserve.  

14                They were called to service by this 

15   nation, and they served admirably.  The war was 

16   one which the country became fed up with.  But 

17   these men, these men did what they were told to 

18   do.

19                So today, to these men, we say 

20   welcome home.  We say thank you for your service.  

21   May God bless each and every one of you and may 

22   God bless the United States of America.  

23                Thank you, Mr. President.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

25   Mayer on the resolution.


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 1                SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

 2   Mr. President.  And it's my honor.  

 3                And I want to thank Senator Harckham 

 4   and Senator Brooks for bringing this resolution 

 5   to the floor today, but this really is a day to 

 6   honor you individually, as individuals who really 

 7   stepped up in a time of great conflict, went and 

 8   served our country, and came home in a time of 

 9   great conflict where you were not acknowledged 

10   and recognized and thanked.  

11                And today is another opportunity for 

12   us to say we made a mistake when you came home.  

13   Today we thank you in an official way on behalf 

14   of the people of the State of New York.  So many 

15   of you came back to your communities and jumped 

16   in and joined groups and participated and became 

17   active members of your community, and we're so 

18   appreciative.  But others of your colleagues came 

19   home and were unable to do that and had a lasting 

20   pain and really the challenges of serving in 

21   Vietnam had an impact on their lives forever.

22                So we have an obligation as members 

23   of this body and as members of this country, one, 

24   to celebrate and honor your contribution, to 

25   thank you, and to make a lasting promise to those 


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 1   who could not make it when they came back that we 

 2   owe it to them to give them everything they need 

 3   in order to survive and thrive.  

 4                Today is a day for you.  We honor 

 5   you.  We appreciate your being here.  I know 

 6   several of you are from my district.  But 

 7   throughout New York State, from villages and 

 8   towns, from cities alike, people stepped up and 

 9   went.  You were among them.  We honor you, and we 

10   appreciate your being here today.

11                Thank you very much.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

13   Sanders on the resolution.

14                SENATOR SANDERS:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.

16                I want to thank Senator Harckham and 

17   Senator Brooks for this.  

18                I want to also thank all of the 

19   vets.  And to the Marines among you, I say Semper 

20   Fi.  Only one?  We've got to work on that.  

21   That's all right.  

22                I was trained by many of this 

23   generation -- I'm post-Vietnam.  I was trained by 

24   many of this generation, and I can attest that it 

25   was some tough training that you guys had.  You 


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 1   were very serious in it.  

 2                I also want to applaud the raw 

 3   courage that it took to do your duty, to get out 

 4   there and to just go from one world to another 

 5   world to -- you know, ours was not to question 

 6   why.  We were just sent there, and whatever we 

 7   did -- raw courage.

 8                I also want to say that in this 

 9   country there is room for dissent.  That's part 

10   of the reason why we fought.  We wanted to make 

11   sure that there could be room for dissent.  But I 

12   encourage people who want to dissent, take it up 

13   with the politicians who send folk to these 

14   places.  Take it up with those guys.  Don't take 

15   it up with the troops.  The troops, we just do 

16   whatever we're ordered to do.  We just go 

17   wherever the government says that we should go.  

18                So I encourage people who have 

19   dissent, this day or other days, take it up with 

20   whoever is sending the troops.

21                And I encourage us in this country 

22   that -- we seem to love the troops, but we really 

23   forget the veterans when they get back.  We 

24   really kind of -- they're on their own out here.  

25   And we could do something, as we have.


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 1                Now, this body is better than most, 

 2   and I applaud that on both sides of the aisle, 

 3   that when it comes to veterans, we are pretty 

 4   good in making sure that all of the needs that we 

 5   can think of are met.  So I applaud all of us.  

 6                But I encourage the rest of the 

 7   nation that let's not forget that troops, God 

 8   willing, become veterans, and they have needs and 

 9   scars and things that they want to contribute.

10                So I applaud you all.  I again 

11   applaud those of us who have served.  And I 

12   applaud Senator Harckham and Senator Brooks for 

13   bringing us here together.  And Semper Fi again.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

15   Robach on the resolution.

16                SENATOR ROBACH:   Yes, 

17   Mr. President.

18                Let me rise to support this 

19   important resolution.  I think any time we can 

20   applaud, say thank you and recognize our 

21   veterans, it's not only necessary but critically 

22   important.  

23                And I want to especially thank those 

24   Vietnam veterans who today we honor who are here 

25   in the chamber, and not only them but Vietnam 


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 1   veterans all across our state.  And I am always 

 2   so proud to work with Chapter 20 out of Monroe 

 3   County, our Vietnam veterans chapter, which in 

 4   addition I thank them for their service, but have 

 5   been so active in creating a veterans court, 

 6   working on programs for homeless veterans, PTSD, 

 7   and lately taking up the mantle on the terrible 

 8   scourge we have where 22 veterans a day, of all 

 9   wars, are committing suicide.  

10                So I thank you for what your past 

11   service has been, you're men and women of your 

12   era, and also what you continue to do today on 

13   behalf of veterans.  It's critically important.  

14   And I want you to know, your efforts -- we just 

15   don't thank you -- are inspiring to me to make 

16   sure that we put the resources to help you do the 

17   important job you do, to take care of the 

18   veterans.  Or, as my colleague Senator Sanders 

19   said, sometimes we have to put our actions with 

20   our words.  But we thank you.  

21                And I'll end on a very positive 

22   note.  Even though I think we got the whole 

23   Vietnam thing wrong in terms of veterans 

24   returning, I'm always so pleased whenever I'm in 

25   a parade for any reason and the Chapter 20 honor 


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 1   guard goes by Vietnam veterans and the crowd 

 2   claps for them the loudest, because they know we 

 3   didn't get it right the first time.  

 4                But I'm glad we're getting it now.  

 5   And we thank you and all your colleagues for what 

 6   you've done and what you continue to do.  God 

 7   bless you.  And know it's greatly appreciated and 

 8   we're going to make sure that future generations 

 9   appreciate that also.

10                Thank you, Mr. President.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

12   Serino on the resolution.

13                SENATOR SERINO:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  

15                And it's so nice to see Karl and Art 

16   and the other Vietnam veterans here today.  I 

17   thank you for coming.  

18                You know, a lot of us here remember 

19   Colonel Larkin, right?  And every time he'd get 

20   up and he'd speak so passionately and tell us his 

21   stories, and he'd have tears in his eyes.  And I 

22   made a promise to him to always remind people 

23   about the Honor Flight.  

24                And I think, Karl and Art, you can 

25   appreciate this, because just a couple of years 


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 1   ago they opened the Honor Flight to the Vietnam 

 2   veterans.  And there wasn't a dry eye in the 

 3   airport.  And I try to make it to every single 

 4   one.  And I think it's been such a long time for 

 5   you guys to hear the thank you.  And when you see 

 6   that at the airport, and the people that come 

 7   out, I think it's very important for you guys to 

 8   know that you have this community behind you.  

 9                And we thank you, and God bless all 

10   of you for being here today.  And God bless you 

11   for your service.  Thank you.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

13   Helming on the resolution.

14                SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.  I rise in support of this 

16   resolution.

17                To our Vietnam veterans who are here 

18   today, I honestly had no intention of rising to 

19   speak on this resolution.  My intention was to 

20   come over, shake your hand and sincerely thank 

21   you for your service to this great country of 

22   ours.  And to also apologize for the way you were 

23   treated.  

24                I find myself very, very conflicted 

25   about a couple of things.  One, we talk a lot 


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 1   about making sure that we continue to honor our 

 2   veterans, that we do everything that we can to 

 3   make up for the horrendous treatment that you 

 4   experienced as Vietnam veterans.  And I am 

 5   thrilled today to hear from one of my colleagues 

 6   that the funding has been restored for the Dwyer 

 7   program.  

 8                But in my area that I represent, the 

 9   Dwyer program doesn't cover most of the area.  

10   What does cover it is a program called the 

11   Warrior Salute program.  It provides 

12   comprehensive services for veterans who are 

13   experiencing PTSD, for veterans who are homeless.  

14   It just -- it's a tremendous service.  And this 

15   body in the one-house budget cut the $200,000 

16   that that program received from the State Senate 

17   year after year.

18                To me, I think we could do better.  

19   So many of the people, the recipients of the 

20   Warrior Salute program, are Vietnam veterans.  We 

21   can do better.  We can show that we stand for 

22   these veterans, that we're not just paying lip 

23   service in this body, that we're doing everything 

24   we can.  So it's my hope, my desperate hope that 

25   that program is restored.


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 1                I want to tell you that I'm being a 

 2   little bit selfish when I speak to you, too.  My 

 3   son-in-law, right now, he's a proud member of the 

 4   U.S. Special Forces.  He's on a mission.  So I 

 5   want these services for the people who are 

 6   veterans.  You need them.  

 7                I also want to keep them intact for 

 8   our men and women who are currently out there 

 9   fighting.  Oftentimes we forget that we're still 

10   a nation at war, that there are women and men who 

11   are sacrificing their lives every single day.

12                I also want to bring up something 

13   else that I heard recently that I've been trying 

14   to ignore, but it's time to speak out about it.  

15   I represent an area of the Finger Lakes.  Seneca 

16   Falls, the birthplace of women's rights, is 

17   located in my district.  And in Seneca Falls is 

18   the National Women's Hall of Fame.  

19                I don't know if you gentlemen have 

20   heard, I don't know if my colleagues have heard, 

21   but the Women's Hall of Fame has recently 

22   announced that they are going to be inducting, 

23   into the Hall of Fame, Jane Fonda.

24                I guess there's not too much I want 

25   to say about that.  But I want to offer to you, 


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 1   if you have thoughts on that, if you have 

 2   opinions on that, please let me know.  Because 

 3   you can believe that I will be standing up for 

 4   our Vietnam veterans and will be adamantly 

 5   opposed to that, and I will carry your voices if 

 6   you'd like me to.

 7                Thank you, Mr. President.  I proudly 

 8   stand in support of this resolution in support of 

 9   our Vietnam veterans.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

11   Bailey on the resolution.

12                SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.

14                I align myself with the comments of 

15   all of my colleagues today.  It is a great day in 

16   this house when we can say that we are all of one 

17   accord.  We should be able to say that far more 

18   often, I believe.  

19                Senator Harckham and Senator Brooks, 

20   thank you for bringing this resolution to the 

21   floor.  And to the brave veterans, thank you for 

22   doing something that I could not imagine doing.  

23   You see, I recognize my privileges in society.  I 

24   recognize that I have things that other people 

25   don't have.  I have abilities that are afforded 


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 1   to me because of folks like you.  Because of 

 2   folks like you that did things that you may or 

 3   may not have wanted to do but were compelled to 

 4   do for the betterment of your country, for our 

 5   country.  

 6                And despite what you may think, you 

 7   make America great.  You made America great by 

 8   your sacrifices.  You see, people like me -- I'm 

 9   36 years old, I've learned about the Vietnam War 

10   only through recollections of others, only 

11   through pop culture, only through movies like 

12   Dead Presidents, where you see the disparity and 

13   the despair in Vietnam vets who come home and 

14   can't find work, and you hear the songs like War, 

15   by Edwin Starr, who sang "War, what is it good 

16   for?  Absolutely nothing."

17                And when you think about people like 

18   you, who fought for me, I couldn't not stand up.  

19   Because I've fought for things, but I've never 

20   had to fight.  You had to do it.  And you put the 

21   American flag, literally and figuratively, on 

22   your backs.  And any time I've spoken to a vet 

23   from Vietnam, they can recall with crystal-clear 

24   specificity about their service, about what they 

25   did, about who they lost and where they were and 


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 1   what time it happened.

 2                I can't imagine having to remember 

 3   things that you remember, for the sake of people 

 4   that -- that you've never even met.  And I 

 5   daresay, Mr. President, the true test of 

 6   leadership in this house, for members and 

 7   nonmembers, for anybody within the sound of my 

 8   voice, is to think about what you're doing for 

 9   people that you'll never meet.  That's 

10   leadership.  That's bravery.  

11                I salute you today and any other 

12   day.  God bless you.  God bless your service.  

13   And I strongly support this resolution, 

14   Mr. President.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

16   Comrie on the resolution.

17                SENATOR COMRIE:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.  

19                I rise to echo the comments of my 

20   colleagues and thank the veterans for being here 

21   today.  I hope that your entire day here in 

22   Albany is enjoyable.  I want to thank them for 

23   their service.  

24                As Senator Bailey said, it's a 

25   commitment that they have to show that they're 


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 1   true Americans, that they truly cared about this 

 2   country.  They went to serve it because they had 

 3   to.  It was before the draft ended, so they 

 4   didn't have a choice.  But they wanted to serve 

 5   our country, they wanted to make sure that we had 

 6   a better life for all of us so that we could be 

 7   here today, so that America could be the country 

 8   that it truly aspires to be, a country that 

 9   serves all, that works for all, and that embraces 

10   all.  

11                So I just want to thank them for 

12   their service.  I can't speak to -- I would speak 

13   to many things about this, because when I 

14   finished high school, the draft ended.  And I was 

15   so happy that the draft ended, because I was a 

16   big chicken.  I was worried about going.  I was 

17   worried about having to serve.  I saw all of the 

18   news reports and the stories.  

19                And it takes a special person to 

20   want to go into battle, to know -- especially 

21   with Vietnam, which was the first televised 

22   war -- the horrors that you're going to go into, 

23   but you want to serve this country and you want 

24   to go.  It takes a special person to do that.

25                So in my office we have regular 


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 1   veterans meetings every month.  I hope that we 

 2   all, in our own way, are doing everything we can 

 3   to salute our veterans, to help them to find ways 

 4   to make sure that their quality of life is 

 5   everything that they deserve to be.  Most of the 

 6   veterans I know, when they have come back to 

 7   their communities, they are active in their 

 8   community in service ways.  They're not looking 

 9   for handouts, they're looking to try to be a real 

10   part of their community.  

11                So I want to salute all the veterans 

12   here.  I want to thank you.  I know that you're 

13   active in your communities also.  And I would 

14   hope that we learn from them, because they're 

15   living examples of what people truly need to be:  

16   Selfless, committed people that want to see a 

17   better country.

18                Thank you, Mr. President.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

20   Montgomery on the resolution.

21                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.

23                I rise to thank Senator Brooks and 

24   Senator Harckham for this resolution and to join 

25   you in celebrating the men of greatness who are 


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 1   in our house today, and want to say that 

 2   certainly as part of what hopefully we're making 

 3   up for, for the mistake that we made for not 

 4   absolutely welcoming in a very big way the men 

 5   and women who came back from Vietnam.  

 6                I have a brother who was a Vietnam 

 7   veteran -- who is a Vietnam veteran.  And I just 

 8   remember I was not angry because my brother, when 

 9   he came home, it was the most wonderful, joyful 

10   thing for certainly me but also certainly for 

11   sure my mother and my family, because we were 

12   happy that he was able to come home from Vietnam.

13                So I didn't have the same experience 

14   of being angry.  And I welcomed him home, and I 

15   welcome you here today.  And I also thank the 

16   fact that I have in my district an organization 

17   which was one of the first if not perhaps the 

18   first organization of African-American veterans, 

19   especially Vietnam veterans, founded by Job 

20   Mashariki, who was also a Vietnam veteran.

21                So we share a lot in this room of 

22   very, very important and special regard for you, 

23   love for you.  

24                And thank you, because you have 

25   given us an opportunity to talk about how great 


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 1   America has been, is -- and to a very large 

 2   extent because of what you were willing to give 

 3   on our behalf.

 4                So thank you, and God bless you.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 6   Jackson on the resolution.

 7                SENATOR JACKSON:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.  

 9                I rise in order to support my 

10   colleagues Senator Harckham and Senator Brooks in 

11   this resolution in honoring the veterans that are 

12   here today.  Understanding that around the 

13   country, this is not only New York State but this 

14   is Vietnam Veterans Day.

15                I am not a veteran.  I was in 

16   college when most of the activity was going on in 

17   the war.  And my draft number was 128.  And the 

18   last day of the draft, they reached up to I 

19   believe number 125.  So I was happy that I was 

20   not called.  I did not volunteer.  And I don't 

21   know, quite frankly, if I would have volunteered.  

22                But I respect those that have 

23   served, those that may have been injured and 

24   those that sacrificed their ultimate life on 

25   behalf of our country.


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 1                One of the things that I've said -- 

 2   and I'm a newbie, I'm a new Senator.  I've only 

 3   been in the Senate three months.  And I said to 

 4   my chief of staff, I want to make sure that at 

 5   least one of my staff members is a veteran.  And 

 6   right now that member came on board approximately 

 7   a month ago.  So I'm happy about that.  

 8                And anything that I can do to help 

 9   to support veterans who have served our country 

10   and sacrificed, I will do, in order to help them 

11   who served our country.  

12                And I say to all of you, thank you 

13   for serving.  Just like I am serving in a 

14   different capacity here in the New York State 

15   Senate, trying to do what's best for our state.  

16   So I thank you for your service, and I honor you 

17   this afternoon.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

19   Gounardes on the resolution.

20                SENATOR GOUNARDES:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.

22                I can't match the eloquence that my 

23   colleagues have spoken about this resolution on 

24   behalf of our Vietnam veterans, especially 

25   Senators Harckham and Brooks.  But I rise today 


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 1   because I want to dedicate my vote and my support 

 2   of this resolution for one particular Vietnam 

 3   veteran who had a profound impact on my life, and 

 4   that is Mr. Jim.  

 5                Mr. Jim, you see, was my 

 6   scoutmaster, and he served two tours of duty in 

 7   Vietnam at a very young age.  And then when he 

 8   returned back home, one of the first things he 

 9   did was he started our Boy Scout troop.  And he 

10   served as our scoutmaster for 40-plus years, 

11   graduated more than 50 Eagle Scouts from its 

12   ranks, myself being Number 46.  

13                And I can stand here without a hint 

14   of exaggeration or hyperbole and say I would not 

15   be in this chamber today were it not for Mr. Jim 

16   and his leadership and his guidance and his 

17   mentorship and his ability to mold young boys 

18   into young men -- all from lessons he learned 

19   during his service and that he instilled in us 

20   and imparted to us in his own deeply personal, 

21   deeply stoic and incredibly -- incredible way.  

22   He was a man of deep integrity.  

23                You know, Mr. Jim is no longer with 

24   us.  We lost him about a year and a half ago.  

25   And like so many times, we never get a chance to 


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 1   say thank you, we never get a chance to say 

 2   good-bye.  And so I rise today to dedicate my 

 3   vote to Mr. Jim to thank him for what he has done 

 4   for me.  And I'm using you as the vehicle by 

 5   which I can do that, so I want to thank you all 

 6   for your service, for what you've done for this 

 7   country, for what you've done for the people of 

 8   this country, and for who you are and who you 

 9   represent and the impact it's had on all of us, 

10   young and old.

11                I'm a product of the 9/11 

12   generation.  You know, the wars in Afghanistan 

13   and Iraq are the wars of my generation.  And in 

14   my youthful precociousness, I didn't fully 

15   understand what it meant to go to war, what it 

16   meant to sacrifice.  And Mr. Jim taught me.  And 

17   Mr. Jim explained.  And Mr. Jim opened my eyes.  

18                So I thank him for that, and I thank 

19   you for your service to our country.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

21   Lanza on the resolution.

22                SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.

24                I also want to thank the sponsor for 

25   bringing this resolution to the floor.


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 1                You know, the reason why we 

 2   celebrate March 29th as Vietnam Veterans Day in 

 3   New York is because of a man by the name of 

 4   Lester Modelowitz, a Vietnam veteran from 

 5   Staten Island, a good friend to myself and 

 6   Senator Savino.  

 7                When I first arrived here in the 

 8   Senate, Lester Modelowitz came to me with the 

 9   idea of creating this day.  After all, it was in 

10   1973 on this day that President Nixon removed the 

11   last troops from Vietnam and signed an executive 

12   order that day making it Vietnam Recognition Day, 

13   but only for that year.  

14                And Lester thought, together with 

15   the Vietnam Veterans of America chapter on 

16   Staten Island, that we ought to recognize this 

17   day every year.  And to me it was a no-brainer.  

18   I mean, who would not agree with that idea?  

19                I brought the idea to Assemblyman 

20   Matt Titone; he authored it in the Assembly.  You 

21   would think within minutes it would have passed 

22   both houses.  It didn't.  That was just the 

23   beginning of a multiyear effort to convince folks 

24   across the political spectrum that it was time 

25   that we stand up and recognize the mistake that 


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 1   had been made and that which we owe the men and 

 2   women who sacrificed in that conflict.  

 3                People who opposed it said:  Andrew, 

 4   why do we need another day honoring veterans?  

 5   After all, we have Veterans Day, we have Memorial 

 6   Day, there are other opportunities throughout the 

 7   year.  Do we really need another day?  My answer, 

 8   of course, was:  Absolutely, and here's why.  

 9                Because something different happened 

10   to the Vietnam veterans.  One of the shameful 

11   chapters in American history.  And it has been 

12   pointed out here, they fought, they were sent -- 

13   as Senator Sanders said, they were sent overseas 

14   to defend our liberty.  And whether you agreed or 

15   not with the conflict, they did their duty.  In 

16   fact, by the way, something you won't be taught 

17   in school, they never lost a single battle.  Not 

18   a single battle was lost in Vietnam by the 

19   American men and women who went there to fight 

20   there.

21                And so we said, We've got to right 

22   that wrong.  And by righting the wrong, we do two 

23   things.  We express our gratitude to them.  We 

24   acknowledge wrong.  But we also, we also say to 

25   the world that we know when it's time to make 


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 1   amends.  We know when it's time to address the 

 2   things that we've done that shouldn't have 

 3   happened, and to understand why they happened.  A 

 4   lot of factors that contributed to that.  But 

 5   clearly, you had warped Hollywood actors and 

 6   actresses, people in the media, you had phony 

 7   politicians, you had a misguided public -- all 

 8   conspired, all conspired to attack the very thing 

 9   which we should honor most in America.  

10                And so they say we've learned from 

11   it, but I'm here to tell you we've got to remain 

12   vigilant, because those same -- those same 

13   ignorant, petty forces will continue to exist 

14   within human nature, unfortunately.

15                So we did it here in New York.  And 

16   then we worked with other states.  Senator Savino 

17   and I and Assemblyman Titone were contacted by a 

18   number of legislative houses across America, and 

19   every single year a couple of new states made 

20   this the law.  We lobbied the federal government 

21   for six years to make it a national day of 

22   recognition; we were unsuccessful.  

23                But I'm happy to announce that on 

24   March 28, 2017, President Trump signed the 

25   Vietnam Veterans Recognition Act, which makes 


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 1   today a national day, every year, of recognition 

 2   for Vietnam veterans.  And it ought to be that 

 3   way.

 4                Fifty-seven thousand nine hundred 

 5   thirty-nine American soldiers' names are 

 6   inscribed on that wall in Washington, D.C. 

 7   Everyone here ought to go there and behold the 

 8   sacrifice, the sacrifice and the blood that was 

 9   spilt on our behalf.  

10                So once again, as I do every year 

11   and every day, I want to say thank you, Vietnam 

12   veterans.  Thank you for your sacrifices in 

13   defense of the greatest nation the world has ever 

14   known, the first nation on this earth conceived 

15   and founded upon the idea of individual liberty, 

16   which sits on the bedrock of freedom.  The first 

17   ever.  We've got to make sure that light never, 

18   never leaves this earth.  And it will not as long 

19   as there are men and women like the men and women 

20   we call Vietnam veterans.

21                So I thank you on behalf of this 

22   body, on behalf of my state, and on behalf of 

23   this country.  Thank you, and God bless you.  And 

24   as Senator Brooks said, something wasn't said to 

25   you that should have been said then, and all 


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 1   these years later we need to keep saying it, 

 2   Senator Brooks:  Welcome home, welcome home, 

 3   welcome home.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 5   Savino on the resolution.

 6                SENATOR SAVINO:   Thank you, 

 7   Mr. President.

 8                First I want to completely associate 

 9   myself with the comments of Senator Lanza, 

10   particularly with his recognition of our 

11   Staten Islander Lester Modelowitz, who helped 

12   make sure of the passage of the legislation here 

13   in New York State establishing a Vietnam Veterans 

14   Day.  Lester is a proud Staten Islander and a 

15   Vietnam vet and a good friend.

16                I want to thank also my colleagues 

17   for bringing this resolution to the floor, 

18   Senator Brooks and Senator Harckham, and all of 

19   my colleagues for the recognition of the Vietnam 

20   vets who are here.  To you, I thank you for your 

21   service.  

22                And as I listen to Senator Brooks 

23   talk about the time frame of the years of the 

24   Vietnam War, I was much younger then, so I wasn't 

25   a teenager or a college student, I was in grammar 


                                                               2223

 1   school.  And I remember there was a national 

 2   campaign for younger kids, it was called the 

 3   Vietnam Bracelet.  We all wore one.  It was a 

 4   silver bracelet with the name of a Vietnam either 

 5   veteran or POW or an MIA.  And we all 

 6   participated in praying for their recovery or for 

 7   them to come home.  

 8                Because we were looking at the 

 9   Vietnam veterans somewhat differently than 

10   others.  We saw them for what they were.  They 

11   were fighting a foreign land for the liberty and 

12   the defense of our nation.  We didn't see it as a 

13   political effort, we saw them as soldiers that 

14   had been taken from their home to go somewhere 

15   else to defend America.  That's how children saw 

16   it.  That's how I see it to this day.

17                To this day, Vietnam veterans still 

18   struggle with the way they were treated when they 

19   came home.  And as Senator Lanza said and Senator 

20   Brooks said, every opportunity we have to 

21   apologize and to remind you that you are welcome 

22   home, we should do so.  So whether it's an action 

23   taken here today, the National Day of 

24   Recognition, or standing up alongside of you 

25   every year when you remind us how many have still 


                                                               2224

 1   yet to come home.  

 2                There are still roughly 1350 

 3   prisoners of war in Vietnam that have yet to be 

 4   accounted for.  Several more, 1500 or so, missing 

 5   in action who have not been found and returned 

 6   home.  And we should not rest until everyone who 

 7   left here serving in the uniform of the 

 8   United States is returned home in one way, shape 

 9   or form.  And we know the Vietnam veterans of 

10   America will not rest until that happens.

11                And I personally want to thank 

12   Vietnam vets for their efforts over the last two 

13   years to help me convince the Governor to do 

14   something that he didn't want to do in the 

15   beginning, to add post-traumatic stress disorder 

16   as a qualifying condition under the New York 

17   State Compassionate Care Act, the medical 

18   marijuana law.  It was somewhat controversial, 

19   and I know even within the veterans community.  

20   But many of you stepped forward and said you're 

21   still suffering 40 years beyond a war that ended.  

22                And you were willing to come forward 

23   and help change the law to make it easier for 

24   people who are suffering, recognizing that 

25   today's vets, the Iraq and Afghanistan vets, are 


                                                               2225

 1   as affected, sometimes even more so.

 2                So again, thank you for your service 

 3   then.  Thank you for your service to the 

 4   community now, to veterans organizations.  

 5   Welcome home, welcome home, welcome home.  

 6                Thank you, Mr. President.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 8   Antonacci on the resolution.

 9                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.

11                Today's resolution brings back 

12   memories of my dad's service in the military -- 

13   he was in the U.S. Navy -- but also my mentor, my 

14   uncle Tony Nesci.  And Tony Nesci, who is now 

15   deceased, formulated the Veterans Memorials at 

16   the New York State Fair on the New York State 

17   fairgrounds, with the help of state government 

18   and others.  

19                I invite you to come to Syracuse 

20   during the New York State Fair.  Veterans Day at 

21   the fair is the second Thursday.  The first 

22   sausage sandwich is on me.  It's about the only 

23   way I can really thank you, other than to say 

24   thank you.  But the ceremony that we conduct at 

25   exactly 11 a.m. is a wonderful ceremony.  


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 1                And as we say, all gave some; some 

 2   gave all.  And we also read a poem that talks 

 3   about how the veteran has affected all of our 

 4   lives.  It is the veteran that gave us freedom of 

 5   speech, freedom of region, the ability to debate 

 6   in this great hall.  

 7                But I would love to have you come to 

 8   Syracuse.  The way we honor all veterans, and in 

 9   particular Vietnam veterans, I think you'd be 

10   very pleased with.  

11                Thank you for your service.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

13   Ortt on the resolution.

14                SENATOR ORTT:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.  

16                I rise today, first of all, to thank 

17   Senator Harckham and Senator Brooks, my colleague 

18   on the Veterans Committee and the chair.  

19                But I rise from my own unique 

20   perspective as a combat veteran of a different 

21   conflict, the conflict in Afghanistan.  And I 

22   think about what it was like when I came home.  

23   And I think about the reception at the airport, I 

24   think about going to my city council meeting and 

25   being welcomed back and being allowed to speak 


                                                               2227

 1   and being welcomed home in front of my fellow 

 2   neighbors and residents and family members.  

 3   Marching in a parade.  I think about getting my 

 4   thank-a-vet card and being able to go to the 

 5   stores and get discounts at restaurants, at 

 6   Home Depot.  And I think about -- basically, it 

 7   was -- it was you were like a rock star.  

 8                I think about the commercials on TV 

 9   and the movies about veterans and just this 

10   feeling that veterans provided an invaluable 

11   service to our country.  And they do.  

12                But I contrast that with how you 

13   came back.  You weren't a hero, you were a baby 

14   killer.  You weren't a hero, you were an enabler 

15   of a country and a system and an administration 

16   that many on the antiwar left crowd lumped in and 

17   attacked.  You were a problem.  And we didn't 

18   know how to deal with that problem when you came 

19   back home.  

20                I'm sure it was easy for some to 

21   forget the 57,000-plus Americans who died over 

22   there.  And I think about, you know, every 

23   military funeral, a flag is presented to the 

24   family members.  And it's presented with the 

25   words "On behalf of a grateful nation."  How 


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 1   hollow those words must have rung to many of 

 2   those families, because you returned to a nation 

 3   that seemed anything but grateful for your 

 4   service.

 5                Now, the good news today, I think -- 

 6   and this gives me hope, when you hear everyone 

 7   talking, that we can learn from those past 

 8   experiences.  Not just feel bad, not just say 

 9   we're sorry, but actually learn from that 

10   experience, to take something away and make sure 

11   that it never happens again.  

12                And that, to me, is your great 

13   legacy that I want all of you to know and every 

14   Vietnam veteran around the country to know, and 

15   in the State of New York to know, that your 

16   legacy to me is from my generation of veterans, 

17   we got to come home to a very different welcome.  

18   We got to come home and to be a part of a country 

19   and a world that treats veterans and looks at our 

20   veterans very differently, because you have made 

21   a commitment that that would never happen to 

22   another generation of veterans again.

23                And so on behalf of my generation of 

24   veterans, I say thank you not only for your 

25   service to our country, but thank you for what 


                                                               2229

 1   you have continued to do for veterans and to 

 2   remind people that while you can oppose a war or 

 3   a policy, you should never misconstrue that with 

 4   the men and women who give their lives and put 

 5   their lives on the line to defend this country.  

 6   Because some of you volunteered, like I did, but 

 7   some of you were drafted.  And again, we want to 

 8   remember those who didn't come back at all, that 

 9   we could learn from their sacrifice and learn 

10   from this experience.

11                So I thank you for your service.  I 

12   thank the sponsors for the resolution.  I thank 

13   all of my colleagues who have spoken today.  And 

14   I say thank you, welcome home.

15                Mr. President, thank you.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

17   Gianaris on the resolution.

18                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

19   Mr. President.

20                We often pause in this chamber to 

21   recognize the sacrifices of our veterans and to 

22   appreciate all that they've done for us, but the 

23   Vietnam veterans are special, for many of the 

24   reasons we've already heard from many of my 

25   colleagues.  Of course, the Vietnam War was the 


                                                               2230

 1   last time a draft was implemented in the 

 2   United States, which means so many of our 

 3   veterans served not necessarily by choice but by 

 4   a sense of obligation and duty to their country 

 5   and a sense of service to the United States.

 6                And that service, unfortunately, was 

 7   not recognized as it should have after it had 

 8   concluded, as many have already indicated.  

 9                And so we recognize too that the 

10   sacrifices made in the Vietnam War were not only 

11   lives lost or physical or mental health, but also 

12   a sacrifice of personal dignity so that the rest 

13   of us can learn how to do it right.  So as we 

14   heard Senator Ortt say how we now appreciate in a 

15   more appropriate way the service in the military 

16   of Americans, we have learned that lesson because 

17   of what all of you went through.

18                And for that I wanted to say that we 

19   appreciate you and all you have done to make the 

20   United States all it is.  And I'm sure that 

21   future generations of veterans also thank you for 

22   suffering so that they could be appreciated 

23   appropriately.

24                Thank you, Mr. President.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 


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 1   resolution was previously adopted on March 26th.  

 2                To our Vietnam veterans, I want to 

 3   welcome you on behalf of the Senate.  As you 

 4   heard, we all thank you for your service to this 

 5   country.  We extend to you all the privileges and 

 6   courtesies of this house.  Welcome home.  Please 

 7   rise and be recognized.

 8                (Extended standing ovation.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

10   Gianaris.  

11                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

12   at the request of Senator Harckham, that 

13   resolution is open for cosponsorship.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

15   resolution is open for cosponsorship.  Should you 

16   choose not to be a cosponsor of the resolution, 

17   please notify the desk.

18                Senator Gianaris.

19                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can we now 

20   please take up Resolution 853, by Senator Thomas, 

21   read that resolution in its entirety, and 

22   recognize Senator Thomas.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

24   Secretary will read.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 


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 1   Number 853, by Senator Thomas, celebrating Holi, 

 2   an ancient Hindu Spring Festival.

 3                "WHEREAS, It is the sense of this 

 4   Legislative Body, in keeping with its 

 5   time-honored traditions, to recognize and pay 

 6   tribute to those events which foster ethnic  

 7   pride and enhance the profile of cultural 

 8   diversity which strengthens the fabric of the 

 9   communities of New York State; and 

10                "WHEREAS, This Legislative Body is 

11   justly proud to celebrate Holi, an ancient Hindu 

12   Spring Festival; and 

13                "WHEREAS, Holi is an ancient Hindu 

14   Spring Festival, also known as the Festival of 

15   Colors, which celebrates fertility, color, love, 

16   and the triumph of good over evil; and 

17                "WHEREAS, The Festival signifies the 

18   coming of spring, the joy of friendship, and 

19   equality for all; and 

20                "WHEREAS, The colored powders used 

21   in Holi represent love, happiness, and the 

22   freedom to live vibrantly, which are all 

23   principles shared and promoted by the Caribbean 

24   Equality Project (CEP); and 

25                "WHEREAS, The origins of the 


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 1   festival can be found in various legends in Hindu 

 2   mythology, one of which tells the story of a 

 3   demon, Holika, and her brother, King 

 4   Hiranyakashipu; on the night before Holi, 

 5   bonfires are lit to signify the burning of Holika 

 6   and the victory of good over evil; and 

 7                "WHEREAS, This year, Holi begins on 

 8   Wednesday, March 20th and ends on Thursday,  

 9   March 21st; the timing of Holi depends on the 

10   moon, meaning the date of the event can vary, 

11   although it usually occurs in March to mark the 

12   end of winter; and 

13                "WHEREAS, It is the intent of this 

14   Legislative Body to recognize and commend events 

15   which symbolize the historical, social and 

16   cultural development of this great state and 

17   embody the spirit of the principles upon which 

18   this nation was founded; now, therefore, be it 

19                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 

20   Body pause in its deliberations to celebrate 

21   Holi, an ancient Hindu Spring Festival."

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

23   Thomas on the resolution.

24                SENATOR THOMAS:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.


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 1                I rise to celebrate the Festival of 

 2   Holi as a member of the most diverse class of 

 3   Senators in this chamber at any point in New York 

 4   history.  I'm also fully aware, as an immigrant, 

 5   I owe a lot to these veterans here for what they 

 6   have done to fight for me and for me to stand 

 7   here to celebrate a festival that happens 

 8   thousands of miles away.

 9                Now let's get back to Holi.  {In 

10   Hindi.}  That basically means I wish you all a 

11   Happy Holi, from me and my family.  

12                And we have special guests with us 

13   in our chamber from my community to celebrate 

14   with us all.  I would like to introduce Ashok 

15   Adikoppula, Elangovan Raman, Moideen Puthenchira, 

16   Ved Shravah, Basavaraj Benki, Venu Gunji, Milan 

17   Susan Babu, Paul Uppal, and Kalpesh Kathiriya.  

18                Holi is one of the great festivals 

19   of India, which is celebrated with great zeal, 

20   zest and enthusiasm.  It is also called the 

21   Festival of Colors, during which people play with 

22   colors and splash colors on each other.  You may 

23   have seen in this in your own constituencies and 

24   wondered what it means.  

25                This isn't a religious festival; 


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 1   instead, it marks the start of spring.  It is 

 2   also a festival of compromise.  This is the day 

 3   when someone you may have disagreed with in the 

 4   past year, throws some colors on you, hugs you, 

 5   and you all become friends.  

 6                As part of this festival today I 

 7   wanted to come around to my Republican 

 8   colleagues, throw some colors and put my arms 

 9   around you to become friends, but I was advised 

10   against it.  Maybe next time.

11                (Laughter.)

12                SENATOR THOMAS:   Holi is also a 

13   festival of harmony, where friends and relatives 

14   get together in the evening or visit their 

15   friends, family and neighbors and greet them with 

16   colors and sweets.  The mouth-watering delicacies 

17   of Holi, like laddus, add a flavor to the season 

18   of festivity.  Don't worry, Senators and staff.  

19   Everyone in this chamber gets a laddu today to 

20   celebrate with us.  People hug each other on Holi 

21   and give a new beginning by forgetting all the 

22   hatreds and sorrows.  

23                As we take part in another yearly 

24   tradition called the New York State budget, where 

25   we are sure to have many disagreements, let us 


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 1   take a moment today to be kind to those who 

 2   disagree with us, give them a hug, and eat a 

 3   laddu.  

 4                Thank you.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 6   Sanders on the resolution.

 7                SENATOR SANDERS:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.

 9                As the proud Senator of Southeast 

10   Queens, I actually have the largest 

11   Indo-Caribbean community, Richmond Hill and South 

12   Ozone Park, so I'm very familiar.  

13                One of the things I was not familiar 

14   with was that -- you see this suit?  This is not 

15   what you go to the holiday in.  I quickly learned 

16   to my dismay and to my dry cleaner's joy that 

17   this is the worst and last thing that you go in.

18                I can only tell you that I never 

19   knew there were that many colors in the world, 

20   because my suit had every single color.  There 

21   was not an area of my suit that was not colored.  

22                I must admit that I -- I'm not even 

23   sure if I was able to wear it ever again.  So if 

24   anyone wants to partake in such a holiday, can I 

25   assure you, you do not want to wear your Sunday 


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 1   go-to-meeting clothes.  

 2                But the holiday was for aids for 

 3   good spirits.  And when people were throwing 

 4   powder on me, I might not have had the best 

 5   spirits, I confess, but then they would hug me.  

 6   This was alarming.  I didn't know what to do.  

 7   What do you do in a case like that?  After I 

 8   guess the 12th powdering, I got into the spirit 

 9   of it and said the suit is gone, let me just 

10   enjoy the moment.  

11                So I have encouraged everyone -- in 

12   fact if you want to participate with it, on 

13   Sunday we're doing it in South Ozone Park, and I 

14   encourage you to all come out.  But I would not 

15   wear those beautiful shoes and that nice tie.  I 

16   would come a little different.  

17                So I'm glad that my friends and 

18   neighbors are here.  I'm glad that we are showing 

19   more customs.  This is part of the beautiful 

20   mosaic that is America, a beautiful thing that 

21   we're bringing in more customs and holidays from 

22   all over and excellent people from all over.  

23                So in the spirit of the season, I 

24   want to say thank you for all that you have 

25   brought up here.  I'll even forgive you for the 


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 1   suit that I can never wear again.  But I look 

 2   forward to being out there, and this time I want 

 3   to throw the chalk first.  Thank you very much.  

 4                Thank you, Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 6   Persaud on the resolution.

 7                SENATOR PERSAUD:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.

 9                I rise today to thank Senator Thomas 

10   for bringing this resolution to the floor.  And 

11   you may wonder why is she rising to speak on 

12   Holi.  I am someone who has celebrated Holi for 

13   my entire life.  Or as we call it in Guyana, 

14   Phagwah.  So to everyone, Happy Phagwah.  Happy 

15   Holi, Happy Phagwah.  

16                And as Senator Sanders has said, if 

17   you have not experienced it, I encourage everyone 

18   to experience it just once in your life.  I 

19   remember going to Amsterdam one year, and my 

20   mother and I are walking and I heard this noise, 

21   and I'm like, What is that?  What are they doing?  

22   So we go around the corner.  Lo and behold, they 

23   were celebrating Holi.  And what did I do?  In 

24   Amsterdam, the streets of Amsterdam, I 

25   celebrated.  


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 1                That's what it's about.  It's about 

 2   fun.  It's about eliminating all the negative 

 3   from your life and participating in something 

 4   that's bringing joy to us.  

 5                So to everyone again, Happy Holi, 

 6   Happy Phagwah, and let's celebrate the joys in 

 7   our lives.  Thank you all very much.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 9   Comrie on the resolution.

10                SENATOR COMRIE:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.

12                I rise to thank Senator Thomas for 

13   bringing this resolution to enlighten this 

14   chamber about the joys of Holi or Phagwah, which 

15   is also known as the Festival of Love.  

16                Members keep claiming they have the 

17   most whatever in their districts.  

18                (Laughter.)

19                SENATOR COMRIE:   But I want to 

20   claim that I have a good representation also in 

21   my district.  And I want to share Senator 

22   Sanders's example, because I went in a suit and 

23   tie to the first Holi festival, and they were 

24   waiting for me.  So -- 

25                (Laughter.)  


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 1                SENATOR COMRIE:   And I'm an easy 

 2   target, so that was a -- 

 3                (Laughter.)

 4                SENATOR COMRIE:   It was a lot of 

 5   fun.  

 6                And, you know, one thing that's 

 7   great about this country is that when people come 

 8   here and they're showing us what their history 

 9   is, what their religions are, you know, what 

10   their traditions are and that they can celebrate 

11   it here in New York in a positive way, that they 

12   can pass those traditions on to their children, 

13   that their children can see living examples of it 

14   happening within the community, and that we can 

15   all embrace it, there's another testament to the 

16   men who were just here that fought to preserve 

17   this country so that people can now come here and 

18   celebrate their traditions as well.

19                So Happy Holi, Happy Phagwah.  And 

20   I'm just glad that we can do these types of 

21   things in a country that embraces diversity.  

22                Thank you, Mr. President.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

24   question is on the resolution.  All in favor 

25   signify by saying aye.


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 1                (Response of "Aye.")

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 3   Opposed?  

 4                (No response.)

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 6   resolution is adopted.

 7                To our guests, I welcome you on 

 8   behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

 9   courtesies and privileges of this house.  Please 

10   rise and be recognized.

11                (Standing ovation.)

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

13   Gianaris.

14                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

15   Senator Thomas would like to open this resolution 

16   for cosponsorship.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

18   resolution is open for cosponsorship.  Should you 

19   choose not to be a cosponsor of the resolution, 

20   please notify the desk.

21                Senator Gianaris.

22                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can we now call 

23   up previously adopted Resolution 678 by Senator 

24   Ramos --

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Order 


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 1   in the chamber, please.  Order in the chamber, 

 2   please.

 3                Senator Gianaris.  

 4                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Sorry, 

 5   Mr. President.  

 6                 -- previously adopted Resolution 

 7   678, by Senator Ramos, read its title only, and 

 8   recognize Senator Ramos.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   Secretary will read.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

12   678, by Senator Ramos, memorializing Governor 

13   Andrew M. Cuomo to proclaim March 31, 2019, as 

14   Cesar Chavez Day in the State of New York.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

16   Ramos on the resolution.

17                SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.

19                We do not have any federal holidays 

20   that celebrate American Latinos in this country, 

21   despite our numerous contributions since its 

22   inception.  Growing up Latino in this country is 

23   hard.  We rarely see our heroes in textbooks, and 

24   we often see ourselves and our parents denigrated 

25   in the news.


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 1                We are rarely given the opportunity 

 2   to celebrate who we are and tell our own stories.  

 3   It is more important than ever that we uplift 

 4   those who have fought against the system of 

 5   supremacy that has colonized us, enslaved us, 

 6   tried to erase us from history, and continues to 

 7   exploit our labor every time there is a chance.

 8                I'm proud to say that in this 

 9   chamber, that ends today.  Mr. President, I rise 

10   to celebrate one of the greatest Americans to 

11   have ever lived.  As we hear in the resolution, 

12   Cesar Chavez worked tirelessly to organize 

13   farmworkers using nonviolent tactics, to have 

14   their work appropriately compensated and their 

15   human rights recognized.  That journey began many 

16   decades ago, and his work isn't finished.  

17                As more Latino Americans begin to 

18   fill the halls of legislative bodies across the 

19   country and in this state, we bring with us our 

20   life experiences but, most importantly, the 

21   innumerable sacrifices of our parents and our 

22   ancestors who often come from countries that were 

23   pillaged, only to come to this country to be 

24   pillaged again every day.

25                It is our duty to ensure that our 


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 1   hardships are not endured by future generations.  

 2   In New York there is a Jim Crow-era law still on 

 3   our books that denies human beings, mostly black 

 4   and Latino taxpaying New Yorkers, parity with 

 5   nearly every other worker in this state.  

 6   Farmworkers in New York State do not have the 

 7   right to a day off or unemployment benefits or 

 8   overtime pay or the right to collectively 

 9   bargain.  And that must change once and for all. 

10                We know that the agricultural 

11   industry, mostly family farms, have their 

12   challenges, especially as corporations 

13   increasingly exert their political influence to 

14   take over the industry, and even as consumer 

15   preferences change.  As I've begun to tour 

16   upstate New York, I have met farmers who are good 

17   employers out of their own volition, and I have 

18   met farmworkers whose living quarters are on the 

19   orchards they work, meaning they breathe in 

20   pesticides day in and day out.  

21                I have heard stories of women 

22   farmworkers raising their voices against 

23   disparities in pay only to be fired for standing 

24   up for themselves.  I have met men and women who 

25   toil relentlessly for the profit of others 


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 1   without much to show for themselves.  In fact, I 

 2   asked one of the women I met what her plan for 

 3   retirement was.  She laughed at me.  And she told 

 4   me "you only leave farm work in very, very old 

 5   age, if you're sick or you're dead."  {In 

 6   Spanish.}  

 7                This is New York in 2019.  We can do 

 8   better.  The fate of a worker's quality of life 

 9   should not be left to the fortune of finding a 

10   good employer.  No human being is disposable.  

11   Their rights must be codified like everyone 

12   else's.  We can pass the Farmworker Fair Labor 

13   Practices Act this session.  We'll be holding 

14   hearings across the state on the subject so we 

15   can hear from every stakeholder.  And I'd like to 

16   thank my colleagues Senators Metzger, May and 

17   Martinez for working with me.  

18                It is always the right time to do 

19   the right thing.  It is always the right time to 

20   recognize the humanity in others.  It is always 

21   right to grant people the respect and the dignity 

22   that they inherently deserve.  

23                As Cesar Chavez said himself:  "We 

24   draw our strength from the very despair in which 

25   we have been forced to live.  We shall endure."  


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 1                Sí, se puede.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 3   Sanders on the resolution.

 4                SENATOR SANDERS:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.

 6                The Bible teaches us that we're 

 7   going to be judged not by how many important 

 8   friends we have or who's strong and who's rich, 

 9   but what have we done for the least among us.  

10                And Cesar Chavez is a person who 

11   stood out for doing for the least among us, 

12   taking his life on the line over and over to help 

13   organize folk who everyone had seemingly turned 

14   their backs on.

15                Now, I -- this means a little 

16   something to me more than most because my father 

17   was a sharecropper.  I come from this group of 

18   people.  Just as good as anybody else, with needs 

19   for the opportunities of everyone else.

20                So absolutely we can't stop until we 

21   find the last person in New York that doesn't 

22   have equality of opportunity, that doesn't have 

23   the opportunities.  And if these are the 

24   farmworkers, then we need to turn our attention 

25   immediately to addressing this situation.


                                                               2247

 1                Let's address it in a way that 

 2   doesn't have the farms go out of business, but I 

 3   believe that there is a way that we can find a 

 4   way to -- that everybody wants to ensure the 

 5   equality of opportunity, which is the thing that 

 6   makes America great, if we can ever get to it.

 7                So having said those things, again, 

 8   I want to thank you for bringing this to the 

 9   floor.  We must always continue to fight and 

10   remember that an injury to one is an insult to 

11   all of us.  That we can't just say that we can 

12   turn our backs on them and we'll eat the food but 

13   we won't think about who's picking the food and 

14   getting the food to us.  That's a foolish thing 

15   to do.  Especially if they're getting sick in 

16   your food?  Not a good thing.  Let's do something 

17   about this.  

18                Thank you for Chavez, bringing the 

19   resolution.  And thank him for looking out for 

20   all of us.  

21                Thank you very much, Mr. President.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

23   Jackson on the resolution.

24                SENATOR JACKSON:   Thank you, 

25   Mr. President.


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 1                My colleagues, I rise in order to 

 2   support the resolution put forward by our 

 3   colleague Jessica Ramos honoring Cesar Chavez.  

 4   His birthday is two days from now, March 31st.  

 5                And also in support of the bill that 

 6   is sponsored by her, and which I am a cosponsor, 

 7   dealing with the farmworkers in New York State, 

 8   making sure that they have the opportunity to 

 9   have a day's rest, making sure that they have the 

10   opportunity to receive overtime and a fair wage, 

11   and making sure that the opportunity -- that 

12   they, like other state employees, have an 

13   opportunity to join a union.  That's what it's 

14   about:  Basic respect and dignity for all.

15                I've said this before, and some 

16   people don't like the analogy -- even machines 

17   have to take a break or else they burn out.  And 

18   we're talking about not machines, we're talking 

19   about human beings that have families, that have 

20   issues and concerns with their health, mentally 

21   and physically.

22                And so I stand today in support of 

23   honoring Cesar Chavez for what he's done in order 

24   to bring respect and dignity to farmworkers 

25   across not only our country but the world, in 


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 1   order to move forward and to put the bill that's 

 2   in front of us, that's been in front of both the 

 3   Senate and Assembly for years.  And hopefully, 

 4   God willing, we'll be able to move it this year 

 5   and pass it into law.

 6                Thank you.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 8   resolution was previously adopted on March 14th.

 9                Senator Gianaris.

10                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Senator Ramos 

11   would like to open up that resolution for 

12   cosponsorship, Mr. President.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

14   resolution is open for cosponsorship.  Should you 

15   choose not to be a cosponsor of the resolution, 

16   please notify the desk.

17                Senator Gianaris.

18                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can we now take 

19   up the reading of the calendar.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

21   Secretary will read.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 66, 

23   Senate Print 783A, by Senator Breslin, an act to 

24   amend the Economic Development Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 


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 1   bill is high and will be laid aside for the day.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   328, Senate Print 41, by Senator Hoylman, an act 

 4   to amend the General Business Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 6   the last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8   act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 9   shall have become a law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

11   the roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

14   Hoylman to explain his vote.

15                SENATOR HOYLMAN:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.  

17                I rise to speak about this bill, to 

18   explain that this legislation would give courts 

19   the discretion to order some portion up to the 

20   full amount of statutory fines or civil penalties 

21   for state antitrust crimes to go to the Office of 

22   Victim Services.  So that means that fines that 

23   are accrued in court over antitrust crimes can be 

24   used for the victims of domestic violence, for 

25   medical expenses, funeral expenses, loss of 


                                                               2251

 1   earnings or support, counseling costs, crime 

 2   scene cleanups, the cost of domestic violence 

 3   shelters, loss of property and attorneys fees.  

 4                And I'm very grateful to my Assembly 

 5   sponsor, Assemblymember Englebright, for carrying 

 6   this legislation since the early 1990s and 

 7   pushing forward in a way that allowed its passage 

 8   in the other house.  Unfortunately, it has never 

 9   been brought to the floor here in the Senate even 

10   though it was 36 years ago, Mr. President, that a 

11   judge attempted to use civil penalties from a 

12   white-collar crime to go to the Office of Victim 

13   Services.  

14                Well, today we're correcting that 

15   with this legislation and no longer will we be 

16   blocking an attempt to help victims through the 

17   Office of Victim Services.  I vote aye.  

18                Thank you, Mr. President.  

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

20   Senator Hoylman to be recorded in the 

21   affirmative.  

22                Announce the results.

23                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24   Calendar Number 328, those Senators recorded in 

25   the negative are Senators Amedore, Antonacci, 


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 1   Jacobs, Jordan and O'Mara.  

 2                Ayes, 55.  Nays, 5.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 4   bill is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   329, Senate Print 745A, by Senator Montgomery, an 

 7   act to amend the Executive Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 9   the last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

13   the roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

16   Montgomery to explain her vote.

17                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.

19                I want to just thank the leaders and 

20   my colleagues for bringing forth this 

21   legislation.  It's very important for so many of 

22   us.  

23                Many of my colleagues, especially 

24   members on both sides of the aisle, especially 

25   Republicans, have asked for their waterways to be 


                                                               2253

 1   designated as inland waterways for the express 

 2   purpose of being eligible to participate in the 

 3   program that this bill represents.

 4                And so this legislation would allow 

 5   for community boards in the City of New York to 

 6   also be eligible to participate in this program.  

 7   It allows for local communities to receive a 

 8   grant that the state provides to help them with 

 9   funding for planning for what should happen on 

10   the waterways in their communities.  

11                And so with this, New York City will 

12   be eligible, along with the other communities 

13   around the State of New York, to participate.  

14   Those of us who represent community boards with 

15   waterfront land -- and several of us do in the 

16   City of New York -- our community boards, which 

17   is the citizens of the city, who are looking to 

18   participate in the planning for their own 

19   communities, the state would now be able to 

20   assist them in doing that.

21                So I want to thank you, and I look 

22   forward to this legislation becoming law this 

23   session.  Thank you.  I vote aye.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

25   Montgomery to be recorded in the affirmative.


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 1                Announce the results.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3   Calendar 329, those Senators voting in the 

 4   negative are Senators Akshar, Amedore, Antonacci, 

 5   Boyle, Funke, Griffo, Helming, Jacobs, Jordan, 

 6   Little, O'Mara, Ortt, Ranzenhofer, Robach, 

 7   Serino, Seward and Tedisco.

 8                Ayes, 43.  Nays, 17.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   bill is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   332, Senate Print 1403, by Senator Carlucci, an 

13   act to amend the General Business Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

15   the last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

19   the roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

22   Announce the results.

23                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24   Calendar 332, those Senators voting in the 

25   negative are Senators Akshar, Amedore, Antonacci, 


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 1   Boyle, Flanagan, Funke, Gallivan, Griffo, 

 2   Helming, Jacobs, Lanza, LaValle, Little, O'Mara, 

 3   Ortt, Ranzenhofer, Robach, Serino, Seward and 

 4   Tedisco.

 5                Ayes, 40.  Nays, 20.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 7   bill is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   345, Senate Print 3537, by Senator Carlucci, an 

10   act to amend the Tax Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

12   the last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14   act shall take effect immediately.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

16   the roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

19   Announce the results.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

22   bill is passed.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   352, Senate Print 4543, by Senator Parker, an act 

25   to amend the Executive Law.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 2   the last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

 4   act shall take effect immediately.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 6   the roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 9   Metzger to explain her vote.

10                SENATOR METZGER:   I want to thank 

11   Senator Parker for introducing this legislation.  

12                If we want a better world for our 

13   kids and for their kids, we have to address 

14   climate change.  And this is a great way for the 

15   state to take steps in modeling where we have to 

16   go.

17                I drive an electric car, a Chevy 

18   Volt.  I have a huge district that I get around.  

19   But it's not just about electric cars, it's about 

20   changing the way we do things -- carpooling, 

21   telecommuting.  There are various changes that we 

22   have to make.  

23                But the fact is that transportation 

24   accounts for 42 percent of our greenhouse gas 

25   emissions, and we've got to reduce those if we're 


                                                               2257

 1   going to address this threat.  

 2                Thank you very much.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 4   Metzger to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                Senator Little to explain her vote.

 6                SENATOR LITTLE:   Thank you, 

 7   Mr. President.  

 8                I certainly believe in a lot of the 

 9   conservation measures that Senator Metzger was 

10   speaking of.  But when I look at this bill and I 

11   think about my district, I don't see anything in 

12   here that accounts for rural areas.  And my fear, 

13   when it talks about limiting the number of miles 

14   state workers could drive or limiting the number 

15   of vehicles that state workers would have, I only 

16   can think about the mileage that state workers 

17   need -- think of the Comptroller's office and 

18   audits that they're doing in the small towns in a 

19   vast area.  My Senate district alone is 

20   6400 square miles.  

21                I think education and working with 

22   people is the best way to do it, but not through 

23   this.  My fear is that there would be limitations 

24   on what could be done.  We don't have subways, we 

25   have limited bus service, and we have great 


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 1   distances.  So therefore I vote no.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 3   Little to be recorded in the negative.

 4                Announce the results.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6   Calendar 352, those Senators voting in the 

 7   negative are Senators Akshar, Antonacci, Funke, 

 8   Griffo, Jordan, Lanza, Little, O'Mara, Ortt and 

 9   Ranzenhofer.  Also Senator Tedisco.  

10                Ayes, 49.  Nays, 11.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

12   bill is passed.

13                Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

14   reading of today's calendar.

15                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

16   is there any further business at the desk?

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   There 

18   is no further business at the desk.

19                SENATOR GIANARIS:   There will be an 

20   immediate Democratic conference after session.  

21                And I move to adjourn until Sunday, 

22   March 31st, at 10:00 a.m., intervening days being 

23   legislative days.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   There 

25   is an immediate meeting of the Democratic 


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 1   Conference.  

 2                And on motion, the Senate stands 

 3   adjourned until Sunday, March 31st, at 

 4   10:00 a.m., intervening days being legislative 

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 6                (Whereupon, at 12:37 p.m., the 

 7   Senate adjourned.)

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