Regular Session - June 3, 2019

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    June 3, 2019

11                      1:53 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR BRIAN A. BENJAMIN, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 3   Senate will come to order.  

 4                I ask everyone present to please 

 5   rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7   the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   In the 

 9   absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10   moment of silent reflection or prayer. 

11                (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12   a moment of silence.)

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

14   reading of the Journal.

15                THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Sunday, 

16   June 2, 2019, the Senate met pursuant to 

17   adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday, June 1, 

18   2019, was read and approved.  On motion, Senate 

19   adjourned.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Without 

21   objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                Presentation of petitions.

23                Messages from the Assembly.

24                The Secretary will read.

25                THE SECRETARY:   On page 53, 


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 1   Senator Biaggi moves to discharge, from the 

 2   Committee on Social Services, Assembly Bill 

 3   Number 1283 and substitute it for the identical 

 4   Senate Bill 3465, Third Reading Calendar 724.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 6   substitution is so ordered.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   On page 58, 

 8   Senator Kaplan moves to discharge, from the 

 9   Committee on Codes, Assembly Bill Number 3985 and 

10   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 2508, 

11   Third Reading Calendar 805.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

13   substitution is so ordered.

14                Messages from the Governor.

15                Reports of standing committees.

16                Reports of select committees.

17                Communications and reports from 

18   state officers.

19                Motions and resolutions.

20                Senator Gianaris.

21                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

22   on behalf of Senator Hoylman, I move that the 

23   following bills be discharged from their 

24   respective committees and recommitted with 

25   instructions to strike the enacting clauses:  


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 1   Senate Bills 3349 and 5688.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   It is 

 3   so ordered.

 4                SENATOR GIANARIS:   And, 

 5   Mr. President, I also offer amendments to the 

 6   follow Third Reading Calendar bills:  

 7                By Senator Benjamin, page 35, 

 8   Calendar Number 370, Senate Print 211B; 

 9                By Senator Thomas, page 42, 

10   Calendar Number 547, Senate Print 2829; 

11                By Senator May, page 49, 

12   Calendar Number 652, Senate Print 4812A; 

13                By Senator Comrie, page 52, 

14   Calendar Number 711, Senate Print 3045A; 

15                By Senator Benjamin, page 56, 

16   Calendar Number 784, Senate Print 5666; 

17                And by Senator Stavisky, page 59, 

18   Calendar Number 834, Senate Print 2655.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

20   amendments are received, and the bills shall 

21   retain their place on the Third Reading Calendar.

22                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can we now take 

23   up the reading of the calendar.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

25   Secretary will read.


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 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 73, 

 2   Senate Print 1475A, by Senator Hoylman, an act to 

 3   amend the General Business Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 5   the last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7   act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 8   shall have become a law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

10   the roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

13   Announce the results.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 55.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

16   bill is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   210, Senate Print 1054A, by Senator Persaud, an 

19   act to amend the Penal Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

21   the last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23   act shall take effect immediately.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

25   the roll.


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 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 3   Announce the results.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5   Calendar 210, those Senators voting in the 

 6   negative are Senators Little and Ranzenhofer.  

 7                Ayes, 53.  Nays, 2.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 9   bill is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   222, Senate Print 4007A, by Senator Mayer, an act 

12   to amend the Education Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

14   the last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

16   act shall take effect on June 1, 2020.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

18   the roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

21   Announce the results.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 55.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

24   bill is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


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 1   268, Senate Print 547, by Senator Akshar, an act 

 2   to amend the Public Officers Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 4   the last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:  Section 2.  This act 

 6   shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 8   the roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

11   Announce the results.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 55.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

14   bill is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   350, Senate Print 3917A, by Senator Stavisky, an 

17   act to amend the General Municipal Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

19   the last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

23   the roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 


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 1   Little to explain her vote.

 2                SENATOR LITTLE:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.  I just wanted to explain why I'm 

 4   a no vote on this bill.  

 5                We had a previous bill this year 

 6   where we increased the number of bingo games 

 7   senior citizens could have in residential 

 8   facilities as well as assisted living and all, 

 9   and this reduces the number, again, from where we 

10   had it.  So I supported the increase, and 

11   therefore I don't support the decrease of the 

12   increase.  

13                So thank you.  I vote no.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

15   Little to be recorded in the negative.

16                Senator Stavisky to explain her 

17   vote.

18                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

19   Mr. President.

20                The reason the bill was amended from 

21   twice a week to once a week was at the request of 

22   the Assembly.

23                I happen to think there should be 

24   three or four times a week -- yeah -- because 

25   these are not gambling institutions, these are 


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 1   senior centers and religious institutions.  And 

 2   in the one that I have described on many 

 3   occasions, the winner of a bingo game gets a 

 4   little cookie -- hardly $150 a year worth of 

 5   prize.

 6                However, the Assembly requested 

 7   that, and that's why I did it.

 8                I vote aye.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

10   Stavisky to be recorded in the affirmative.

11                Announce the results.

12                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13   Calendar Number 350, those Senators voting in the 

14   negative are Senators Akshar, Amedore, Funke, 

15   Jordan, Little, O'Mara, Ritchie, Robach and 

16   Tedisco.

17                Ayes, 46.  Nays, 9.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

19   bill is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   393, Senate Print 2475, by Senator Sanders, an 

22   act to amend the Penal Law and the Education Law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

24   the last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 13.  This 


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 1   act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 2   shall have become a law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 4   the roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 7   Announce the results.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 55.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   bill is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   474, Senate Print 2908, by Senator Griffo, an act 

13   to amend the Education Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

15   the last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

19   the roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

22   Announce the results.

23                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24   Calendar Number 474, those Senators voting in the 

25   negative are Senators Brooks and Thomas.  


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 1                Ayes, 53.  Nays, 2.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 3   bill is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   478, Senate Print 4873A, by Senator Stavisky, an 

 6   act in relation to directing the Board of 

 7   Trustees of the State University of New York and 

 8   the City University of New York.  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

10   the last section.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

12   act shall take effect immediately.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

14   the roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

17   Announce the results.

18                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19   Calendar 478, those Senators voting in the 

20   negative are Senators Antonacci and Lanza.  

21                Ayes, 53.  Nays, 2.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

23   bill is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   511, Senate Print 4835, by Senator Carlucci, an 


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 1   act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 3   the last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 7   the roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

10   Announce the results.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 55.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

13   bill is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   513, Senate Print 289, by Senator Ortt, an act 

16   relating to authorizing the Village of Lewiston 

17   to reduce the speed limit on certain public 

18   roadways.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   There 

20   is a home-rule message at the desk.

21                Read the last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23   act shall take effect immediately.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

25   the roll.


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 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 3   Announce the results.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 55.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 6   bill is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   551, Senate Print 4777, by Senator Kaminsky, an 

 9   act to amend the General Business Law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

11   the last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

13   act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

14   shall have become a law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

16   the roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

19   Kaminsky to explain his vote.

20                SENATOR KAMINSKY:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.  

22                I'm proud today to sponsor the 

23   Nuisance Call Act.  Many of us are plagued by a 

24   slew of calls we don't want to receive.  Everyone 

25   in this room and everyone in this state is 


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 1   unfortunately touched by this.  

 2                And one way which it happens is from 

 3   live telemarketers, a scourge where people are 

 4   calling on the phone, sometimes resulting in 

 5   scams, trying to get people to purchase items or 

 6   get items they may not and certainly do not 

 7   need.

 8                What this bill does, it says right 

 9   at the moment that you tell someone you want them 

10   to hang up, they have to hang up the call and put 

11   you on a Do Not Call list in the future and 

12   cannot give your contact information to any other 

13   telemarketer.  

14                We have a long way to go in our 

15   state to ending the scourge of robocalls and 

16   telemarketing calls, and certainly for the 

17   telemarketing calls, this is our first real step 

18   at doing something concrete to help the consumer 

19   and the average New Yorker.  

20                Thank you, Mr. President.  I vote in 

21   the affirmative.  

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

23   Kaminsky to be recorded in the affirmative.

24                Announce the results.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 55.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 2   bill is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   565, Senate Print 2435A, by Senator Thomas, an 

 5   act to authorize the assessor of the County of 

 6   Nassau to accept a retroactive application for 

 7   exemption from real property taxes from the First 

 8   Reformed Church of Jamaica.

 9                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside for 

10   the day, please.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Lay it 

12   aside for the day.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   619, Senate Print 1471A, by Senator Hoylman, an 

15   act to amend the Public Health Law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

17   the last section.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19   act shall take effect one year after it shall 

20   have become a law.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

22   the roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

25   Hoylman to explain his vote.


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 1                SENATOR HOYLMAN:   Thank you, 

 2   Mr. President.

 3                With the passage of this bill, I 

 4   hope that something momentous happens, which is 

 5   hospital food is about to get a little bit 

 6   better.

 7                This bill would require hospitals to 

 8   offer plant-based food options as an alternative 

 9   required for every meal or snack offered in food 

10   service to a patient.

11                The reason that we're pushing 

12   forward with this is that a lot of patients in 

13   hospitals are captive, and they can choose 

14   nothing else but that mystery meat that sometimes 

15   hospitals serve.  They may be vegan, like some of 

16   our colleagues here, they may be vegetarian.  

17   They should have the option for plant-based food.  

18                It's also healthier, as this bill is 

19   supported by physicians across the country, it's 

20   supported by the American Medical Association, 

21   and other states, including California, have 

22   passed similar legislation.  

23                And finally, it's simply better for 

24   the environment.  We know that there's less 

25   carbon emissions from vegan and vegetarian 


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 1   options.  As a result of this legislation, we'll 

 2   take a good step in that direction too.

 3                I vote aye.  Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 6   Hoylman to be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                Announce the results.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9   Calendar Number 619, those Senators voting in the 

10   negative are Senators Akshar, Amedore, Antonacci, 

11   Flanagan, Funke, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

12   Jacobs, Jordan, O'Mara, Ortt, Ritchie, Robach, 

13   Serino and Tedisco.

14                Ayes, 40.  Nays, 16.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

16   bill is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   637, Senate Print 3821, by Senator Savino, an act 

19   to amend the Workers' Compensation Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

21   the last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

23   act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

24   shall have become a law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 


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 1   the roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 4   Announce the results.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6   Calendar 637, those Senators voting in the 

 7   negative are Senators Akshar, Antonacci, Griffo, 

 8   Helming, Jacobs, Jordan and Ortt.  

 9                Ayes, 49.  Nays, 7.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

11   bill is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   695, Senate Print 4469A, by Senator Stavisky, an 

14   act to amend the Education Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

16   the last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

18   act shall take effect on the 146th day after it 

19   shall have become a law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

21   the roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

24   Announce the results.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 2   bill is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   724, Assembly Print 1283, substituted earlier by 

 5   Assemblymember Hunter, an act to amend the 

 6   Social Services Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 8   the last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

12   the roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

15   Serino to explain her vote.

16                SENATOR SERINO:   Thank you, 

17   Mr. President.  

18                I'd like to thank the sponsor of 

19   this bill.  

20                Sex trafficking is a huge issue, and 

21   I don't know really how -- where people are.  I 

22   also carry two bills that would build on this 

23   important progress.  One would create a similar 

24   awareness program, but it's for commercial truck 

25   drivers, who we know have the potential to play a 


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 1   major role in preventing and reporting 

 2   trafficking.  

 3                Perhaps more importantly, I carry a 

 4   bill that would allow for consecutive sentencing 

 5   for heinous sex crimes.  Too often sex 

 6   traffickers commit a litany of sex crimes, often 

 7   further abusing the victims themselves.  Passing 

 8   bills like this would go a long way to crack down 

 9   on these terrible crimes and perhaps even deter 

10   them.  

11                And we need to crack down on the 

12   traffickers if we want to actually put an end to 

13   the problem.  So I urge this body to build on 

14   this legislation by also passing these bills.  

15                Thank you, and I vote aye.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

17   Serino to be recorded in the affirmative.

18                Announce the results.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 56.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

21   bill is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   757, Senate Print 3419, by Senator Montgomery, an 

24   act to amend the Public Health Law and the 

25   Domestic Relations Law.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 2   the last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 10.  This 

 4   act shall take effect January 15, 2020.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 6   the roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 9   Montgomery to explain her vote.

10                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Yes, thank 

11   you, Mr. President.  

12                I want to thank the leader and the 

13   staff on our side for helping to make this 

14   possible.  This is an historic moment in the 

15   State of New York where we will, for the first 

16   time, allow for the adoptees in the State of 

17   New York to receive a certified copy of their own 

18   original birth certificate.  

19                Currently, for those people who have 

20   never had an option to do that, opportunity to do 

21   that -- and for, going forward, anyone who 

22   reaches the age of 18 will now have that 

23   opportunity.

24                I want to thank the many, many 

25   hundreds of adoptees in the State of New York and 


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 1   across the country for active participation and 

 2   working over 20 years to make this day happen.  

 3                And today we have joining us on the 

 4   floor Annette O'Connell and her son Brenden, 

 5   who -- Annette represents the New York State 

 6   Adoptee Rights Coalition.  And we also have with 

 7   her Claudia D'Arcy, who is representing the 

 8   Adoptive and Foster Family Coalition of New York.  

 9   And they just represent only two organizations of 

10   hundreds that have weighed in on this bill.  

11                And today we join nine other states 

12   who already allow for access directly for those 

13   people who have been adopted years and years ago, 

14   who will now have access to their birth 

15   certificate.  It will make it possible for people 

16   to learn about themselves, their health history, 

17   their lineage, and where they come from in the 

18   world and who they are.  This really is for 

19   people who have been adopted and who now would 

20   like to know, Who am I?  And that question will 

21   now be able to be answered.

22                So, Mr. President, I thank my 

23   colleagues for agreeing to support this.  We have 

24   over 30 of us who are on this legislation.  So 

25   there are many, many of us in this room who 


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 1   support that, including a couple of my colleagues 

 2   from the other side, so to speak, if you will.  

 3   I'm not saying they're part of the other side 

 4   today, because this is -- today this is both 

 5   sides saying we want adoptees to have this 

 6   information.

 7                So thank you, Mr. President.  And 

 8   certainly, and without question, I vote aye.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

10   Montgomery to be recorded in the affirmative.

11                Senator Savino to explain her vote.

12                SENATOR SAVINO:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.

14                I want to thank Senator Montgomery 

15   and Senator Lanza, who's been carrying this bill 

16   for several years now, for working on this and 

17   finally getting this bill passed.

18                Senator Montgomery talked about the 

19   importance of people knowing who they are.  You 

20   know, and every one of us came to this chamber 

21   with a history.  I've talked about this many 

22   times.  I started my career as a caseworker 

23   working with children who were placed in the 

24   foster care system.  

25                Many children who are adopted today 


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 1   started their path to adoption in the foster care 

 2   system.  Most of the cases I dealt with were 

 3   kinship, so you knew who your parents were, you 

 4   knew who your family was.  But some of them 

 5   didn't; they came through what we call 

 6   traditional foster care.  

 7                And I guess it was somewhat ironic, 

 8   but just last Friday I received a phone call from 

 9   a young woman who was on my caseload in the 

10   mid-1990s.  She was adopted by her aunt, but in 

11   her home there were other children who were 

12   adopted out of the foster care system, and one of 

13   them is what she calls her brother.  He's now 

14   30 years old.  He was adopted at the age of three 

15   after a failed attempt to reunify the family.  

16                And all he remembers of his 

17   mother -- by the way, his adoptive parents have 

18   now passed on too.  All he remembers of his 

19   mother is her name was Cookie.  He remembers 

20   going to the agency to see her, but he has no 

21   idea who she is.  And he is now attempting to 

22   find out who he is and get his birth certificate 

23   from the New York Family Agency.  The passage of 

24   this bill in both houses and the signing of it 

25   will allow Robert to find out who he really is 


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 1   and who Cookie really was.  

 2                So I want to thank Senator Lanza and 

 3   Senator Montgomery and everyone for helping make 

 4   Robert's dream come true.  

 5                Thank you, Mr. President.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 7   Savino to be recorded in the affirmative.

 8                Senator Lanza to explain his vote.

 9                SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.  

11                I first want to associate myself 

12   with the remarks of my colleagues Senator Savino 

13   and Senator Montgomery.  And in particular, I 

14   want to thank Senator Montgomery for getting this 

15   done here.  

16                I wrote this bill about 10 years 

17   ago.  I've never understood -- and I've listened 

18   to both sides on the issue, and I've never 

19   understood the opposition.  And I've heard from 

20   various groups that talked about privacy issues 

21   and other concerns.  And it just never made sense 

22   to me for one simple fact:  This birth 

23   certificate belongs to you.

24                And for all those who came to me 

25   through the years and said, We shouldn't do this, 


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 1   I've always offered the following idea.  Well, if 

 2   you think it's a bad idea, why don't we pass a 

 3   law that says no one can have their birth 

 4   certificate?  And of course could you imagine the 

 5   outcry if we were to do something like this?  

 6                Year in and year out, we were able 

 7   to get support in this chamber, on both sides of 

 8   the aisle.  And Senator Montgomery and I have 

 9   been working together for a long time.  We 

10   couldn't get it across the finish line in the 

11   Assembly.  My understanding is the Governor has 

12   weighed in and has convinced the Assembly, and it 

13   looks like it may happen there.  

14                And so this truly is -- as Senator 

15   Montgomery said, this really is an important day 

16   in the State of New York.

17                Could you imagine, for all those of 

18   you who are not adopted, for all of you who have 

19   children, could you imagine -- and it really is, 

20   I think Senator Montgomery said it's a civil 

21   right.  And I've been saying that for a long time 

22   as well.  Could you imagine if someone told you 

23   you can't have your birth certificate?  It really 

24   is outrageous.  And it does speak to who you are.  

25   And it has, I think ramifications with respect to 


                                                               4357

 1   your health and all.

 2                And just one quick anecdote, like 

 3   Senator Savino.  I have a childhood friend, both 

 4   he and his brother were adopted in Florida more 

 5   than 53 years ago.  And he had always wondered 

 6   and -- but was never able to do anything about 

 7   it.  But because of a change in another state, 

 8   about six months ago he found his birth mother.  

 9   And lo and behold -- remember, he was adopted in 

10   Florida.  Lo and behold, she lives about 20 miles 

11   from Staten Island, over in New Jersey.  They've 

12   reunited and it's become a source of miraculous 

13   joy for both of them.  

14                This is a good bill, and I'm glad 

15   that it seems that this will finally become the 

16   law in the State of New York.  Long overdue.  

17                Thank you, Mr. President.  I vote 

18   aye.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

20   Lanza to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                Senator Skoufis to explain his vote.

22                SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Thank you, 

23   Mr. President.

24                I want to thank Senators Montgomery 

25   and Lanza for getting us here, and I especially 


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 1   want to thank my constituent, Annette O'Connell, 

 2   from Woodbury in Orange County for really pouring 

 3   her heart and her soul into this effort in 

 4   getting us to this special day.  

 5                She and others have fought for what 

 6   many may consider here an adoptee right, but I 

 7   know for those adoptees this is a basic human 

 8   right, a fundamental right, an American right, to 

 9   see your own birth certificate.  This is about 

10   basic access to information that you are entitled 

11   to, and I'm very glad today that the Senate is 

12   finally making that mark.

13                Thank you, Mr. President.  I vote 

14   aye.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

16   Skoufis to be recorded in the affirmative.

17                Announce the results.

18                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19   Calendar Number 757, those Senators voting in the 

20   negative are Senators Antonacci, Brooks, Jordan, 

21   Martinez, O'Mara and Ortt.

22                Ayes, 53.  Nays, 6.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

24   bill is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               4359

 1   805, Assembly Print Number 3985, substituted 

 2   earlier by Assemblymember Weprin, an act to amend 

 3   the Penal Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 5   the last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7   act shall take effect on the first of November.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 9   the roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

12   Announce the results.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

15   bill is passed.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17   807, Senate Print 2662, by Senator Savino, an act 

18   to amend the Penal Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

20   the last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

22   act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

23   shall have become a law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

25   the roll.


                                                               4360

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 3   Announce the results.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 6   bill is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   813, Senate Print 5517, by Senator Bailey, an act 

 9   to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

11   the last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13   act shall take effect immediately.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

15   the roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

18   Announce the results.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

21   bill is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   832, Senate Print 5410, by Senator Sanders, an 

24   act to amend the Education Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 


                                                               4361

 1   the last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 4   shall have become a law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 6   the roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 9   Announce the results.

10                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11   Calendar Number 832, those Senators voting in the 

12   negative are Senators Antonacci, Flanagan, 

13   Jacobs, Jordan, O'Mara and Ortt.

14                Ayes, 53.  Nays, 6.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

16   bill is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   852, Senate Print 584, by Senator Kennedy, an act 

19   to amend the New York State Urban Development 

20   Corporation Act.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

22   the last section.

23                SENATOR GALLIVAN:   Lay it aside.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Lay it 

25   aside.


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 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   860, Senate Print 4024B, by Senator Harckham, an 

 3   act to amend the Tax Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 5   the last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 7   act shall take effect July 1, 2019.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 9   the roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Oh, 

12   Senator Harckham to explain his vote.

13                SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  That was close.

15                For those of us who represent 

16   suburban communities, some rural communities, 

17   even some of our urban communities, the STAR 

18   program is a credit that property and homeowners 

19   rely on as a credit and a rebate against their 

20   school taxes.

21                Unfortunately, in many ways the STAR 

22   program is broken.  One of the largest categories 

23   of complaints I get in our office, or requests 

24   for help, are STAR complaints going back two, 

25   three years.  We have complaints of checks not 


                                                               4363

 1   received from 2016.

 2                So basically the STAR Bill of Rights 

 3   gives homeowners a reasonable expectation that 

 4   their claims will be handled promptly, reasonably 

 5   and responsibly, and creates the office of a STAR 

 6   ombudsman to do just that, rather than people 

 7   calling an anonymous phone number, getting 

 8   different people each time, and not having a case 

 9   number.

10                So I thank colleagues for their 

11   support, and with that I vote yea.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

13   Harckham to be recorded in the affirmative.

14                Senator Seward to explain his vote.

15                SENATOR SEWARD:   Yes, 

16   Mr. President, I'm going to support this piece of 

17   legislation, because with all of the changes that 

18   have been made in the STAR program, particularly 

19   in the budget that was enacted earlier this year, 

20   it's very confusing for homeowners and taxpayers, 

21   most of which have no idea about these changes 

22   yet.  

23                And certainly we need to have the 

24   Tax and Finance Department do a full court press 

25   in terms of notifying taxpayers of the changes, 


                                                               4364

 1   alerting them of what they need to do to maintain 

 2   benefits under the STAR program.  

 3                So I'm going to support this bill 

 4   because I think the STAR ombudsman is a good step 

 5   in the right direction.

 6                However, as a footnote to that, I've 

 7   got to say I was here when we developed the STAR 

 8   program.  I think it's one of the best things 

 9   that this Legislature has ever done in terms of 

10   helping homeowners with their school tax.  I like 

11   the way that we developed STAR to begin with.  In 

12   other words, homeowners would actually get a 

13   break on the school taxes that they had to pay to 

14   their local school district, and that was the end 

15   of it in terms of complication.  They got a break 

16   on their school taxes that they paid.

17                And since then, there's been this 

18   shift to these checks.  And as Senator Harckham 

19   pointed out, there are a lot of problems with the 

20   issuance of those checks, particularly in a 

21   timely manner to help people have the resources 

22   to pay their school taxes.

23                So I believe that some of the 

24   changes that have been made over the years have 

25   been detrimental to the STAR program.  And 


                                                               4365

 1   certainly, at this juncture, no question we do 

 2   need to have a STAR ombudsman -- unfortunately, 

 3   in my estimation.  

 4                But I am going to support the bill.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 6   Seward to be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                Announce the results.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9   Calendar Number 860, those Senators voting in the 

10   negative are Senators Akshar, Antonacci, 

11   Flanagan, O'Mara and Ortt.

12                Ayes, 55.  Nays, 5.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

14   bill is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   865, Senate Print 4974, by Senator Metzger, an 

17   act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law and 

18   the Environmental Conservation Law.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

20   the last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

22   act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 

23   shall have become a law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

25   the roll.


                                                               4366

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 3   Metzger to explain her vote.

 4                SENATOR METZGER:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.

 6                We all need to do our part to 

 7   reduce, reuse and recycle.  And New York's dairy 

 8   farmers have been doing that, large and small, 

 9   reusing hundreds of thousands of tires to hold 

10   down tarps over their silage.

11                In 2017, the Department of 

12   Environmental Conservation determined that the 

13   tires are collecting water and creating breeding 

14   grounds for mosquitoes.  And the department has 

15   required that farmers have to either drill holes 

16   in the tires, cut them in half, or find some 

17   other system.

18                The cost of meeting these new 

19   requirements is a serious burden on our dairy 

20   industry, on our dairy farmers, who are already 

21   in crisis due to the low cost of milk prices.  We 

22   are losing dairy farms at an alarming rate, 

23   particularly our small farms.  

24                So this law is intended to help them 

25   implement this regulation and reduce the cost to 


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 1   them and the pain that that incurs.  The bill 

 2   instructs the Commissioner of Ag & Markets and 

 3   the Commissioner of Environmental Conservation to 

 4   develop a plan to remove the used tires from 

 5   farms at no cost to the farmers.  

 6                I am very proud to sponsor and 

 7   introduce this legislation, and I vote aye.  

 8                Thank you very much.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

10   Metzger to be recorded in the affirmative.

11                Announce the results.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

14   bill is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   867, Senate Print 5300, by Senator Rivera, an act 

17   to amend the Tax Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

19   the last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

23   the roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    


                                                               4368

 1   Announce the results.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 4   bill is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   869, Senate Print 2834, by Senator Savino, an act 

 7   to amend the General Business Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 9   the last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

11   act shall take effect one year after it shall 

12   have become a law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

14   the roll.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

17   Announce the results.

18                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19   Calendar Number 869, voting in the negative:  

20   Senator Akshar.  

21                Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

23   bill is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   877, Senate Print 4894, by Senator Parker, an act 


                                                               4369

 1   to amend the Mental Hygiene Law and the 

 2   Real Property Actions and Proceedings Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 4   the last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 8   the roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

11   Announce the results.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

14   bill is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   878, Senate Print 5637A, by Senator Carlucci, an 

17   act to create a temporary commission relating to 

18   the Office of Mental Health housing programs.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

20   the last section.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22   act shall take effect immediately.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

24   the roll.

25                (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               4370

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 2   Announce the results.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 5   bill is passed.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7   882, Senate Print 3224, by Senator Sanders, an 

 8   act to amend the Administrative Code of the City 

 9   of New York.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

11   the last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13   act shall take effect immediately.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

15   the roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

18   Announce the results.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

21   bill is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   886, Senate Print 2155, by Senator Gianaris, an 

24   act to amend the Public Service Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 


                                                               4371

 1   the last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 4   shall have become a law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 6   the roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 9   Metzger to explain her vote.

10                SENATOR METZGER:   Yes, I want to 

11   thank Senator Gianaris for introducing this 

12   legislation.

13                As someone who has spent many years 

14   prior to becoming a Senator in rate cases, 

15   fighting for fair rates and fighting against 

16   unnecessary charges to our residents and small 

17   businesses, I think it's extremely important that 

18   we do have a commissioner that has a background 

19   in consumer advocacy.  That's much needed.  

20                Right now it's a very unlevel 

21   playing field.  Only large industrial customers 

22   can afford, you know, high-priced attorneys to 

23   defend their interests, and small businesses and 

24   residents are really at a disadvantage.

25                So I'm very pleased to vote aye on 


                                                               4372

 1   this legislation.  Thank you.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 3   Metzger to be recorded in the affirmative.

 4                Announce the results.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6   Calendar 886, those Senators voting in the 

 7   negative are Senators Amedore, Antonacci, Boyle, 

 8   Flanagan, Funke, Griffo, Jacobs, Jordan, LaValle, 

 9   Little, O'Mara, Ortt, Ritchie and Seward.  Also 

10   Senator Ranzenhofer and Senator Robach.

11                Ayes, 44.  Nays, 16.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

13   bill is passed.

14                Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

15   reading of today's calendar.

16                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

17   at this time we're going to simultaneously call a 

18   meeting of the Rules Committee in Room 332 and 

19   proceed to the reading of the controversial 

20   calendar.  

21                So if you could please do both of 

22   those things at the same time, we'd move 

23   expeditiously through the day.  Thank you.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   There 

25   will be an immediate meeting of the Rules 


                                                               4373

 1   Committee in Room 332.

 2                Moving to the controversial 

 3   calendar, the Secretary will ring the bell.

 4                The Secretary will read.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   852, Senate Print 584, by Senator Kennedy, an act 

 7   to amend the New York State Urban Development 

 8   Corporation Act.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

10   Antonacci.

11                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.  I was wondering if the sponsor 

13   would yield for a few questions on this bill.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Will 

15   the sponsor yield?  

16                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

17   Mr. President, I'll yield.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

19   sponsor yields.

20                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   I'd like to 

21   thank the sponsor for yielding.  Through you, 

22   Mr. President.  Subparagraph I says that the 

23   businesses or not-for-profits that participate in 

24   this program must also participate in the Pride 

25   of New York program.  It is my understanding that 


                                                               4374

 1   that program is being phased out or has been 

 2   phased out by the Department of Agriculture.  

 3                And if that's correct, will this 

 4   affect this statute?  And will those businesses 

 5   be able to still participate in any loans or 

 6   grants?  

 7                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 8   Mr. President.  First of all, let me thank my 

 9   colleague for the question.  Let me start by 

10   explaining this bill, the Food Retail 

11   Establishment Subsidization for Healthy 

12   Communities, otherwise known as the FRESH Act.  

13                It's a very important bill because 

14   of the food deserts that are being recognized 

15   across this state.  And quite frankly, it's a 

16   problem that is nationwide, with 23.5 million 

17   Americans living in food deserts where they don't 

18   have access to healthy foods and fresh foods.  

19   According to the USDA research from 2009, there's 

20   roughly 2.5 million Americans that live more than 

21   a mile away from a supermarket and do not own a 

22   car.  

23                Back in my district, there are 

24   several food deserts, both in the City of 

25   Lackawanna as well as the City of Buffalo, where 


                                                               4375

 1   at least a third of the population lives more 

 2   than a mile away from a supermarket or a large 

 3   grocery store with access to those food options, 

 4   both fresh and healthy food.

 5                It's worth noting that these are not 

 6   just confined to my district in Western New York, 

 7   but also Senator Jacobs' district, where there 

 8   are food deserts, as well as Senator 

 9   Ranzenhofer's district.  And that's just on the 

10   map that I had seen recently.  But these are all 

11   across the state and not confined to one 

12   particular area or the other.

13                These communities are often 

14   underserved, low-income, and at risk for diabetes 

15   and obesity.  The gap in access to proper 

16   nutrition is just unacceptable.  New Yorkers all 

17   across the state deserve that access to fresh 

18   foods regardless of zip code or socioeconomic 

19   status.  

20                And through this FRESH Act, we're 

21   incentivizing opportunities for supermarkets to 

22   put down roots in urban areas and rural areas 

23   that currently lack sufficient access to healthy 

24   food.  In turn, we're not only requiring them to 

25   provide nutritional, locally sourced products, 


                                                               4376

 1   but we're also requesting that they create local 

 2   jobs for the surrounding community by hiring 

 3   people from that area to work there.

 4                And through this legislation we're 

 5   attempting to right the wrongs and close the 

 6   current gaps that exist by providing the kind of 

 7   accessibility to healthy food options that 

 8   everyone rightfully deserves.

 9                As far as the Pride of New York 

10   program that is built into this legislation, that 

11   was actually proposed years ago that 

12   unfortunately my colleagues, when they were in 

13   the majority, failed to bring this to the floor.  

14   There were a number of options that were put 

15   forward, including a fund that has since been 

16   entirely eradicated of its funding.  

17                The Pride of New York program is 

18   actually being phased out and phased into the 

19   New York State Grown and Certified program.  

20   However, the Pride of New York program actually 

21   still currently exists.  As it's phased out and 

22   the New York State Grown and Certified program 

23   takes place, this bill will in fact take that 

24   into consideration as we pass it through both 

25   houses.


                                                               4377

 1                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Through you, 

 2   Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

 3   yield?

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

 5   the sponsor yield?

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

 7   Mr. President.  

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 9   sponsor yields.

10                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Thank you.

11                The sponsor mentioned jobs and jobs 

12   within the local community.  I note that the bill 

13   says that "must hire residents living within a 

14   20-mile radius of such retail food 

15   establishment."  Is this a black-and-white litmus 

16   test?  Is there going to be a ratio?  Is it one 

17   individual that has to be hired within 20 miles?  

18   What are the parameters of that hiring program?  

19                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

20   Mr. President, that is to be determined through 

21   Empire State Development, that will promulgate 

22   this program.

23                Through other programs similar to 

24   this that have since been exhausted, the New York 

25   Healthy Food and Healthy Communities Fund, there 


                                                               4378

 1   were 500 full-time jobs created across the state, 

 2   nearly a thousand construction jobs created 

 3   across the state.  And of the $30 million of that 

 4   fund that has since been exhausted, $10 million 

 5   of it leveraged nearly $200 million in further 

 6   investment from the private sector as well.

 7                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Through you, 

 8   Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

 9   yield?

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

11   the sponsor yield?

12                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

14   sponsor yields.

15                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Thank you.

16                Looking at the bill, there's a 

17   portion, line 9, that says that "as determined by 

18   the corporation" -- which I assume is Empire 

19   State Development Corporation, or Urban 

20   Development.  What is the definition of 

21   underserved areas, and will the department have 

22   complete and utter discretion on how they 

23   determine where a grocery store may receive a 

24   grant, loan, or other state aid?

25                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 


                                                               4379

 1   Mr. President, "underserved area" is defined in 

 2   this legislation to include a low- and 

 3   moderate-income census tract, an area with 

 4   below-average supermarket density, those having 

 5   customers with more than 50 percent living in 

 6   low-income census tracts, and have significant 

 7   barriers to access -- such as travel distance -- 

 8   as determined by Empire State Development.  

 9                For example, in my district a food 

10   desert that exists, an underserved community, the 

11   First Ward of Lackawanna is a perfect example.  

12   It is probably the most beautiful community I can 

13   think of, and not due to the infrastructure or 

14   the housing but the people.  It is a mix, a 

15   multicultural, extraordinarily diverse district 

16   where various languages, ethnicities, 

17   religions -- and they're confined to a specific 

18   area, which is over a mile away from the nearest 

19   bus route, or at least it was up until about a 

20   year ago, till that was fixed -- but about two 

21   miles away from a nearest grocery store with 

22   access to fresh food.  

23                Which means anyone in this 

24   community, and it is defined in the underserved 

25   census tract -- anyone in this community, to get 


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 1   that fresh food, would have to walk or find 

 2   transportation over a bridge, over railroad 

 3   tracks, about two miles away to the closest plaza 

 4   at Abbott Road, where they would have that 

 5   access.  

 6                But it's not just during the nice 

 7   weather like we have here today, this sunny 

 8   weather in June, but during the most inclement 

 9   weather, off of Lake Erie, with the wind blowing 

10   sometimes in excess of 40 or 50 miles an hour, 

11   with wind chills below zero degrees, where folks 

12   that don't have access to fresh food -- fresh 

13   fruits and vegetables, dairy products home-grown 

14   here in the State of New York -- would 

15   unfortunately be relegated to going to the local 

16   corner store.  

17                And we know, by various studies and 

18   just simple math, that these corner stores do not 

19   provide for the fresh fruits and vegetables to 

20   feed in a healthy way the communities that they 

21   should serve.

22                And so these communities have been 

23   really put up against a wall as it pertains to 

24   providing for their families and giving their 

25   families the resources necessary.


                                                               4381

 1                So what this will do, this bill will 

 2   ultimately incentivize retailers that give those 

 3   fresh food options to locate into food deserts.

 4                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Mr. President, 

 5   will the sponsor continue to yield?  

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

 7   the sponsor yield?

 8                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   sponsor yields.

11                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Following up on 

12   the sponsor's comments and as well as the 

13   language in the bill, will there be any other 

14   areas that the corporation will be able to use in 

15   making its determination of whether or not to 

16   award state assistance?

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   The underserved 

18   areas, as defined and as this law demonstrates, 

19   will include lower-to-moderate-income census 

20   tracts, areas of below-average supermarket 

21   density, or having a supermarket customer base 

22   with more than 50 percent living in low-income 

23   census tracts or other areas demonstrated to have 

24   significant access limitations due to travel 

25   distance, as determined by the corporation -- in 


                                                               4382

 1   this case, ESD -- and food retail establishments 

 2   shall include supermarkets and other grocery 

 3   retailers that operate on a self-service basis 

 4   and sell a minimum percentage of produce, meat, 

 5   poultry, seafood, baked goods, and/or dairy 

 6   products, that participate in the Pride of 

 7   New York program and that accept payment from 

 8   electronic benefit transfer through the 

 9   Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and 

10   through the Special Supplemental Nutrition 

11   Assistance Program for women, infants and 

12   children, and do not charge a membership fee, and 

13   hire residents living within a 20-mile radius of 

14   that establishment.

15                Other than that, they will not 

16   qualify.

17                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Thank you.

18                Will the sponsor continue to yield?  

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

20   the sponsor yield? 

21                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

23   sponsor yields.

24                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   So there is no 

25   physical mile limitation or distance limitation 


                                                               4383

 1   built into this bill.  And if not -- with the way 

 2   I'm reading it, there's not -- this will be 

 3   completely up to ESD's discretion in terms of how 

 4   closely to place competing food establishments?  

 5                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Mr. President, 

 6   through you, if my colleague could elaborate on 

 7   his question.

 8                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Yes, 

 9   Mr. President, through you.  If you have a food 

10   desert that is determined by ESD, is it based on 

11   just the census tract?  So let's say you have a 

12   census tract that qualifies under the bill.  

13   Could you put two competing grocery markets 

14   within blocks of each other?

15                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

16   Mr. President, I suppose potentially you could.  

17                However, that would have to be 

18   determined by Empire State Development if that 

19   was in the best interests of the community and 

20   whether or not that was necessary and a necessary 

21   utilization of this incentive in order to provide 

22   healthy food options for the underserved 

23   population within that census tract.

24                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   Last question, 

25   Mr. President, through you, if the sponsor will 


                                                               4384

 1   yield.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

 3   the sponsor yield? 

 4                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 6   sponsor yields.

 7                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   What kind of 

 8   oversight of the food retail establishments is 

 9   built into this bill or any of the existing 

10   programs to make sure that, you know, the 

11   establishments that receive this subsidy actually 

12   provide the benefits so intended?

13                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

14   Mr. President.  Once again, Empire State 

15   Development will promulgate this legislation into 

16   action in the community.  And it will be up to 

17   the discretion of Empire State Development.  But 

18   this will be a tool in their toolbox in order to 

19   allow for the incentivization of businesses that 

20   otherwise would not provide service in these 

21   underserved communities to do so.

22                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   On the bill, 

23   Mr. President.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

25   Antonacci on the bill.


                                                               4385

 1                SENATOR ANTONACCI:   First I'd like 

 2   to thank Senator Kennedy for his patience and his 

 3   answers to the questions.  I believe that 

 4   Senator Kennedy's heart is in the right place.  

 5                Unfortunately, I have a proverbial 

 6   war story as to why I believe this bill should 

 7   not be passed by this house today.  Back in 

 8   Syracuse, New York, we had a business called 

 9   Nojaim Brothers that was established in 1919 on 

10   the city's Near West Side -- a neighborhood that 

11   would benefit from this bill, a neighborhood that 

12   would be in these census tracts so targeted by 

13   the sponsor.

14                A couple of years ago, 0.7 miles 

15   away, the State of New York, amongst other 

16   localities, gave a competing business almost 

17   $2.5 million -- 0.7 miles away -- under the 

18   alleged theory that there was a food desert.  

19                Not only did Nojaim Brothers go out 

20   of business within a year and a half, but another 

21   competing grocery store, Tops, went out of 

22   business very shortly thereafter, and recently 

23   Save-A-Lot, within two miles of the subsidized 

24   business, went out.  

25                So we have four businesses within a 


                                                               4386

 1   three-mile radius of each other allegedly 

 2   competing within a food desert that have all -- 

 3   well, three out of four have received state and 

 4   local grants, and two out of the three are now 

 5   out of business.

 6                I think the bill is 

 7   well-intentioned, but I do not think it's the 

 8   right place for this Legislature to start having 

 9   businesses compete against each other.  I think 

10   there are other ways to assist our less fortunate 

11   that have food needs, especially -- we all 

12   believe in fresh produce, and we certainly want 

13   to help our farmers.  

14                But I think technology is going to 

15   help pave the way.  Amazon, for example, is 

16   delivering just about anything.  Should we be 

17   looking at pilot programs with Amazon?  Should we 

18   change the parameters of the EBT card?  I think 

19   there are many other ways we could spend our 

20   money rather than on this bill.  

21                But I thank the sponsor for his 

22   indulgence.  

23                I'll be voting no on the bill.  

24   Thank you, Mr. President.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Are 


                                                               4387

 1   there any other Senators wishing to be heard?

 2                Ah, Senator Lanza.

 3                SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.  Mr. President, would the sponsor 

 5   yield for a few questions?  

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

 7   the sponsor yield? 

 8                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

11   sponsor yields.

12                SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.  And I thank the sponsor.

14                Through you, Mr. President.  Could 

15   the sponsor tell us the form in which these 

16   incentives will be provided?  Will it be tax 

17   breaks, will it be funds provided to the store 

18   owners?

19                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

20   Mr. President, that is to be determined through 

21   Empire State Development.

22                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, 

23   would the sponsor continue to yield?

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

25   the sponsor yield?


                                                               4388

 1                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 3   sponsor yields.

 4                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

 5   Mr. President.  The sponsor talked about the fact 

 6   that presently people are left to rely upon 

 7   small -- I think you described -- corner stores.  

 8   These mom-and-pop stores, would they be eligible 

 9   to partake in this program?

10                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

11   Mr. President, if in fact these are considered 

12   supermarkets and a grocery retailer that operate 

13   on a self-service basis, sell a minimum 

14   percentage of produce -- meat, poultry, seafood 

15   baked goods -- if they qualify within the 

16   confines of the bill as determined by Empire 

17   State Development, certainly.

18                SENATOR LANZA:   Would the sponsor 

19   continue to yield.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

21   the sponsor yield? 

22                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

24   sponsor yields.

25                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 


                                                               4389

 1   Mr. President.  Assuming they didn't -- let's say 

 2   we're talking about very small grocery stores, 

 3   bodegas, you know, typical small-business-owned 

 4   locations that sell groceries but maybe not at 

 5   the level that this bill encompasses -- what 

 6   would be the -- what does the sponsor believe the 

 7   effect of this legislation on a big box store 

 8   moving in on that mom-and-pop store be?  

 9                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

10   Mr. President.  First of all, if there is a 

11   mom-and-pop store, a minimart or a corner store 

12   that is already selling fresh fruit and 

13   vegetables to a particular census tract, a 

14   particular community, then that community, that 

15   census tract, wouldn't fit under this bill.

16                We're talking about food deserts 

17   specifically, and defined by the federal farm 

18   bill, an area in the United States with limited 

19   access to affordable and nutritious food, 

20   particularly such an area composed of 

21   predominantly lower-income neighborhoods and 

22   communities.

23                And the United States Department of 

24   Agriculture talks about limited access of at 

25   least 500 people or 33 percent of that census 


                                                               4390

 1   tract residing more than a mile from a 

 2   supermarket or a large grocery store.  

 3                And for a rural tract -- because 

 4   this is not confined to just urban areas, and we 

 5   know that there are food deserts all across the 

 6   state, all across geographic disparities -- the 

 7   distance is 10 miles in rural tracts.

 8                As far as what is best for a 

 9   particular community, that will be determined, 

10   once we pass this bill, through consultation with 

11   Empire State Development and the community, along 

12   with the retailer that wants to potentially move 

13   into that community, whether or not they qualify, 

14   whether or not they'd fit this bill, whether or 

15   not they'd actually provide the access to healthy 

16   foods that the community rightfully deserves.

17                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, 

18   would the sponsor yield?  

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

20   the sponsor yield?

21                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

23   sponsor yields.

24                SENATOR LANZA:   Through you, 

25   Mr. President, I appreciate that.  


                                                               4391

 1                And I agree, by the way, anything 

 2   that would afford greater access throughout 

 3   communities in New York makes a lot of sense to 

 4   me.  I'm just trying to understand how this would 

 5   impact what the sponsor described as the fact 

 6   that right now there are a lot of communities 

 7   that rely on these small corner stores that may 

 8   not provide food commensurate with whatever this 

 9   bill is going to require.  And so I'm just trying 

10   to understand the impact on these mom-and-pop 

11   stores.

12                So consistent with that -- through 

13   you, Mr. President -- let's say there were three 

14   large supermarkets or box stores that would like 

15   to be part of this program.  Which one would be 

16   chosen, and why?  And how, and who would do it?

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

18   Mr. President, that would be a wonderful problem 

19   to have if there are three retailers that are 

20   trying to go into a food desert to bring healthy 

21   food options to that community.  That would 

22   actually be a great issue to deal with for 

23   Empire State Development, and they'd have choices 

24   to make.

25                That being said, a part of the bill 


                                                               4392

 1   takes into consideration supermarket density.  So 

 2   we won't take one after another after another -- 

 3   again, unless it makes sense for the community.  

 4   But if you get a retailer that comes into a 

 5   community, provides healthy food options for that 

 6   community and it resolves a food desert problem, 

 7   then in fact this bill has done its job.

 8                SENATOR LANZA:   On the bill, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

11   Lanza on the bill.

12                SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, I 

13   thank the sponsor for yielding to questions.  

14                And I agree, that would be a good 

15   problem.  I believe in the marketplace, 

16   especially free markets.  And when businesses 

17   want to come into a community and bring their 

18   services and their goods, that's a good thing, 

19   typically, for communities.  And when you have 

20   more than one vying for that competition, that's 

21   even better.

22                The question I had, I'm not sure I 

23   really got an answer, was that if we were to take 

24   a community that would be classified as a food 

25   desert under this legislation, which is only 


                                                               4393

 1   being served by a few small businesses that don't 

 2   meet the standards as required in this new law, 

 3   and you had three or four big box or large 

 4   supermarkets who want to enter the community, I'm 

 5   just wondering how this will all work, who is 

 6   going to choose the winner, who is going to 

 7   decide the loser, and what is the impact?  

 8                Is anything going to be done for the 

 9   small business that has perhaps operated there 

10   for a lifetime?  Because we know as new business 

11   is brought in, where the bar is raised -- where 

12   the bar is lowered, where we provide incentives, 

13   sometimes we have unanticipated consequences.  

14                So these are just questions I have.  

15   I understand where the sponsor and what the 

16   sponsor is attempting to solve, and I think it is 

17   a real problem.  I'm torn, because on the one 

18   hand I love providing incentives for businesses, 

19   especially in the form of tax cuts.  I think we 

20   ought to be doing a lot more of that throughout 

21   the state.

22                Part of the problem, I think, 

23   Mr. President, in our state is we have too many 

24   regulations that really form an obstacle that 

25   many businesses cannot overcome, or provide a 


                                                               4394

 1   disincentive, really, in many communities across 

 2   the state.  And you couple that with the tax 

 3   burden that businesses and families face in the 

 4   State of New York, which just increased with 

 5   passage of the last budget, it's difficult for 

 6   new businesses, it's difficult for existing 

 7   businesses to operate in the State of New York.  

 8                So I think therein lies a large part 

 9   of the problem.  And perhaps as Senator Antonacci 

10   suggested, there may be a more direct way, a more 

11   targeted, more surgical way to accomplish these 

12   goals.  Chiefly, let's lower taxes for everyone.  

13   Let's take a look at regulations which perhaps 

14   were well-intended when enacted but which are 

15   really preventing businesses from thriving here 

16   in the State of New York.

17                So I have a lot of concerns.  And as 

18   I said, I'm torn, because I like providing -- I 

19   think it's important to provide incentives for 

20   business.  But I also am very cautious whenever 

21   we pass legislation that hands over the reins of 

22   the market to government bureaucrats.  And that 

23   is why I asked the questions that I did -- who is 

24   going to do this, how is it going to happen.  

25                The bill doesn't really spell out 


                                                               4395

 1   precisely how that's going to happen, so it's 

 2   sort of a player to be named later.  We're going 

 3   to pass this legislation, and then some 

 4   bureaucrat is going to figure out how this all 

 5   works.  And what I've learned in the State of New 

 6   York is that government bureaucrats are always a 

 7   lot worse than the free market when it comes to 

 8   providing services and goods and a good 

 9   marketplace for the people of the State of 

10   New York.

11                So again, I thank the sponsor.  I 

12   think anything we can do to increase 

13   opportunities in the marketplace is a good thing.  

14   I think this bill -- this bill may get us a part 

15   of the way there, but again, we don't know what's 

16   going to happen because we really -- we have a 

17   piece of legislation, but we don't have the 

18   details as to how it's going to work.

19                And so I reserve my vote until it's 

20   time to vote.  

21                Thank you, Mr. President.  

22                (Laughter.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

24   Tedisco.

25                SENATOR TEDISCO:   Thank you, 


                                                               4396

 1   Mr. President.  I'd like to speak on the bill.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 3   Tedisco on the bill.

 4                SENATOR TEDISCO:   I'm going to 

 5   sound the probably the most important cautionary 

 6   note on this piece of legislation.  And it really 

 7   should be illustrated for those individuals who 

 8   are new to the New York State Legislature.  

 9   Because for those of us who have been here for a 

10   while, we know when a question is asked, like the 

11   good Senator over there, to the sponsor of a bill 

12   and you hear the scariest words you can possibly 

13   hear about an answer to the question as to who's 

14   going to have oversight of this bill, who's going 

15   to implement the guidelines and regulations.  

16                The sponsor gives, first of all, a 

17   nice title for the bill, which is giving a nice 

18   response of what the goal of the bill is.  Then 

19   the sponsor says you as elected officials will 

20   take no responsibility for what really comes out 

21   at the end of how this bill is implemented.  

22   Because it's going to be implemented by the 

23   Empire State Development.  The scariest words are 

24   "promulgated and given guidelines and 

25   regulations" by this agency.  When you hear that 


                                                               4397

 1   word "promulgated," you know you're taken out of 

 2   the equation.

 3                And whatever these faceless 

 4   bureaucrats do, they're not elected officials.  

 5   They're not accountable to the people who are 

 6   going to answer to what the outcome is really 

 7   going to be.  And it may be the outcome that the 

 8   good Senator from Syracuse pointed out.  

 9                But when they call you -- and this 

10   is what the outcome is going be for those people 

11   who are new here.  Not all the time, but a great 

12   number of times they're going to call you on the 

13   phone, either those small businesses or those 

14   individuals or those groups, and they say:  Why 

15   did you do that, Senator Kennedy?  Why did you do 

16   that, Senator Tedisco?  

17                And you're going to look at the bill 

18   and say, I didn't do that.  That's not what I 

19   voted for on the floor of the Senate or the 

20   Assembly, it was those darn Empire State 

21   Development bureaucrats who did that.  And then 

22   you're going to blame it on them when the bill 

23   does nothing in the sense of what was discussed 

24   and debated and given for a reason that would be 

25   helpful to our community.  


                                                               4398

 1                Now, that has happened over and over 

 2   and over and over again in this Legislature.  I 

 3   know because I get the calls over and over and 

 4   over from small businesses, and I get to tell 

 5   them I voted against that bill, probably.  

 6   Because anytime I see that term "promulgated" by 

 7   somebody who has no responsibility -- they don't 

 8   go before the electorate.  We take an oath of 

 9   office to get elected to represent them, not to 

10   pass on to faceless bureaucrats to say this is 

11   how it's going to be implemented.  

12                And you know what they say to me?  I 

13   don't care what you think, because my job is not 

14   given to me by the people you represent.  I'm 

15   appointed, or I'm hired by somebody.  

16                Now, what's the real answer to that?  

17   The real answer to that is for us to take 

18   responsibility, to have an answer to that 

19   question that the Senator asked from Syracuse 

20   about who was going to have oversight, what the 

21   regulations are, what the guidelines are, how we 

22   going to protect that we get the good outcome 

23   that Senator Kennedy talked about.  

24                Or here's the second part of it -- 

25   and this makes all the sense in the world to me.  


                                                               4399

 1   Okay, we're going to let an agency or another 

 2   group that are not elected officials, that are 

 3   not really accountable, that we can blame after 

 4   if you voted for this bill.  But once they 

 5   promulgate and put those regulations and 

 6   guidelines forth, why shouldn't it come back to 

 7   us for ratification?  

 8                Because you know what's going to 

 9   happen when it comes back to us for ratification?  

10   You and I are going to go out to those 

11   businesses, those groups, those organizations, 

12   those people that we represent and we're going to 

13   say, What do you think of this, what kind of 

14   impact it's going to have on you?  Then we're 

15   going to go back and we're going to say, we're 

16   not going to ratify that, I think you need an 

17   adjustment like this.  Or the majority will say 

18   they were fine, I think they passed the mustard 

19   {sic}, I'm not that concerned, there's not that 

20   many people involved.  

21                But when you pass the buck, you give 

22   a good name to a bill, you tell everybody this is 

23   what the outcome is going to be, then you say, 

24   but I'm not really going to be responsible for 

25   that outcome because there's an agency or an 


                                                               4400

 1   organization who is going to promulgate the 

 2   regulations and the guidelines.  

 3                And the regulations and the 

 4   guidelines mean everything when you put a bill 

 5   like this out, because it can destroy a 

 6   community, it can destroy a group, it can destroy 

 7   small businesses.  But if you're responsible, 

 8   you're going to be very concerned about those 

 9   guidelines and regulations, because you and I 

10   took an oath of office to make sure we did what's 

11   in the best interests of the constituents we 

12   represent.  Passing the buck to bureaucrats who 

13   are not accountable to my constituents is not a 

14   good idea.

15                Thank you, Mr. President.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

17   Ranzenhofer.

18                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you, 

19   Mr. President.  Will the sponsor yield for a few 

20   questions?  

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

22   the sponsor yield?

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

24   Mr. President.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 


                                                               4401

 1   sponsor yields.

 2                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Through you, 

 3   Mr. President.  Can the sponsor tell me that -- 

 4   how this comports with the IDA Reform Act?  You 

 5   remember a couple of years ago we both voted for 

 6   the IDA Reform Act, which essentially eliminated 

 7   public funding for retail establishments.  

 8                So how does this comport where we're 

 9   going to be giving money for retail 

10   establishments -- how does that comport with that 

11   ban of giving money to retail establishments?

12                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

13   Mr. President, it rectifies the situation so that 

14   Empire State Development has flexibility in 

15   granting specific incentives to a retail business 

16   that will provide a specific healthy food option 

17   in food deserts that exist across the State of 

18   New York.

19                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   If the 

20   sponsor will continue to yield.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

22   the sponsor yield?

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

25   sponsor yields.


                                                               4402

 1                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So would a 

 2   multi-billion-dollar corporation like a Wegmans 

 3   be able to get money through this -- you know, 

 4   taxpayer dollars through this state program to do 

 5   this?  

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 7   Mr. President, I would be thrilled if Wegmans or 

 8   another very well respected retailer decides to 

 9   set up shop in a food desert and provide healthy 

10   food options to a particular community if in fact 

11   this bill is passed and this is the bill that 

12   gets them -- whoever that retailer may be -- to 

13   actually make that investment.

14                That being said, Mr. President, in 

15   my district and in the particular area that I 

16   mentioned earlier, the City of Lackawanna, the 

17   First Ward of Lackawanna, I've reached out to 

18   about half a dozen different retailers to do just 

19   what it is that you suggested, to move in and 

20   provide this healthy food option, and we have not 

21   gotten the response that we desired.

22                Because for whatever reason, whether 

23   it's retail redlining because of the way a 

24   particular community looks or the socioeconomic 

25   status of a particular community may be, the fact 


                                                               4403

 1   of the matter is there are food deserts that 

 2   exist, and they're all across the state in urban 

 3   communities, in suburban communities, in rural 

 4   communities, that this bill will help to rectify.  

 5   It will provide healthy food options in 

 6   particular to areas that need it the most.

 7                And if I could just give one further 

 8   statistic, there's about 1.7 million New Yorkers 

 9   that lacked access to stores with these healthy 

10   food options based upon that 2009 study.  I would 

11   argue that that number has only increased.

12                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

13   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

14   yield.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

16   the sponsor yield?

17                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

19   sponsor yields.

20                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So I'll take 

21   those remarks as a yes, that we will be giving 

22   taxpayer dollars to multi-billion-dollar 

23   corporations to come in.  If that's one of the -- 

24   if that's one of the results of the bill, then 

25   fine.  But the question then is, is there a limit 


                                                               4404

 1   to the amount of money that we can give to these 

 2   multi-billion-dollar companies that come in and 

 3   provide a good service to our community?

 4                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 5   Mr. President, I appreciate my colleague's 

 6   concern about this Legislature potentially 

 7   enacting legislation that would give 

 8   multi-billion-dollar companies incentives.

 9                That being said, again, this bill is 

10   rooted in bringing healthy, sustainable food 

11   options to communities that don't have those 

12   healthy, sustainable food options.  At the same 

13   time, it helps incentivize businesses that are 

14   doing business in the State of New York as well.  

15                So we're helping communities that 

16   are in food deserts, we're helping underserved, 

17   oftentimes impoverished communities get access to 

18   healthy food options.  And we're helping the 

19   farmers -- including in your community, 

20   Senator -- to grow the products that will be sold 

21   in these food deserts when they're hopefully no 

22   longer food deserts.

23                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Will the 

24   sponsor continue to yield?  

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 


                                                               4405

 1   the sponsor yield?

 2                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

 3   Mr. President.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 5   sponsor yields.

 6                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Can you tell 

 7   me what the impact of this legislation is going 

 8   to be -- and I think Senator Lanza was addressing 

 9   this point -- what the impact will be on the 

10   existing corner and convenience stores that 

11   currently exist in these communities?

12                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Thank you, 

13   Mr. President.

14                Once again, no one will be cut out 

15   of potentially attaining these incentives if in 

16   fact the result is providing healthy food options 

17   in these food deserts.  Whether they're small 

18   mom-and-pop shops that would qualify, small 

19   businesses, or whether they are larger 

20   corporations -- as you mentioned, Wegmans, 

21   well-respected -- if these companies, small or 

22   large businesses, decide to set up shop and 

23   provide healthy food options that don't exist 

24   today, then they would qualify.

25                Again, Empire State Development, 


                                                               4406

 1   that is working to put together economic 

 2   incentives across the state, also has to take 

 3   into consideration the food deserts.  This bill 

 4   will ensure that they do that as they're making 

 5   decisions.

 6                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   If the 

 7   sponsor will continue to yield.

 8                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   sponsor yields.

11                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Can you 

12   explain to me how the UDC will be interacting 

13   with Empire State Development?

14                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Mr. President, 

15   could you -- could the sponsor repeat the 

16   question?  

17                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes, can -- 

18   Mr. President, through you, can the sponsor tell 

19   me how the UDC will interact with Empire State in 

20   this program?

21                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Well -- 

22   Mr. President, through you -- this program will 

23   be put in place.  Once it's put in place, 

24   Empire State Development will take a look at the 

25   census tracts across the state that have already 


                                                               4407

 1   been defined as food deserts and within those 

 2   communities, if there is a retailer that would 

 3   like to locate into those particular census 

 4   tracts that fit the language requirements within 

 5   this bill, then in fact they would qualify.  

 6                And Empire State Development would 

 7   work with the community and any other 

 8   organization that may be impacted.

 9                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   If the 

10   sponsor will continue to yield.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

12   the sponsor yield?

13                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

15   sponsor yields.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I think the 

17   proposed legislation talks about the Urban 

18   Development Corporation as the organization being 

19   the one authorized to take all the actions to 

20   implement the bill.  And you keep on talking 

21   about Empire State Development.  

22                So I'm wondering how Empire State 

23   Development will interact with the Urban 

24   Development Corporation.

25                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 


                                                               4408

 1   Mr. President, the -- my colleague should be 

 2   aware that the UDC and the ESD will perform the 

 3   same function, under the same umbrella.

 4                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So if the 

 5   sponsor would continue to yield.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

 7   the sponsor yield?

 8                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

 9   Mr. President.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

11   sponsor yields.

12                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Will the 

13   organizations be working together?  Or who will 

14   have the ultimate authority over implementing the 

15   legislation?

16                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

17   Mr. President, it is the same organization.

18                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   And if the 

19   sponsor will continue to yield.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

21   the sponsor yield?

22                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

24   sponsor yields.

25                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Would 


                                                               4409

 1   enclosed farmers' markets be eligible for this 

 2   program?  

 3                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 4   Mr. President, could the Senator repeat his 

 5   question?  

 6                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Sure.  Would 

 7   enclosed farmers' markets be included in this 

 8   legislation as being eligible for the program?  

 9                SENATOR KENNEDY:   If these farmers' 

10   markets -- again, this would be, through you, 

11   Mr. President, a great issue to have.  If we have 

12   buy-in from farmers' markets, retailers -- large 

13   and small -- and they want to move into a food 

14   desert because of this legislation, then we have 

15   in fact done our job.  

16                The fact of the matter is there are 

17   millions of people that are in food deserts, not 

18   only across this state but across this nation, 

19   that are oftentimes living in poverty, that don't 

20   have access to transportation to get to healthy 

21   fruits and vegetables.  Unfortunately, it's led 

22   to a skyrocketing increase in childhood diabetes 

23   and childhood obesity.  

24                And we have to -- I believe that 

25   this legislative body has a duty and an 


                                                               4410

 1   obligation to do whatever we can -- and in fact 

 2   this legislation does open the door to 

 3   incentivizing investment in those communities 

 4   where food deserts exist.  Whether it's a 

 5   farmers' market that complies with the law and 

 6   fits underneath the auspices of this law or 

 7   whether it's a small mom-and-pop shop or whether 

 8   it's a larger corporation, the intent of the bill 

 9   is to gain investment into these communities that 

10   are desperate for that investment.

11                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   And one final 

12   question, if the sponsor will yield.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

14   the sponsor yield?

15                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

16   Mr. President.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

18   sponsor yields.

19                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So right now 

20   there are communities and there are different 

21   organizations that try to figure out the proper 

22   number of grocery stores, supermarkets, farmers' 

23   markets that are appropriate for a community of a 

24   certain size.  Are those same modalities going to 

25   be followed by ESD and UDC in trying to figure 


                                                               4411

 1   out what is figured out in other communities 

 2   right now?

 3                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 4   Mr. President, could the sponsor repeat his 

 5   question?  

 6                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Can you 

 8   point your mic towards you so it's -- 

 9                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   How would you 

10   like me to put it?  

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Just 

12   push it down.

13                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   All right.  

14   How's that, better?  Thank you.

15                SENATOR KRUEGER:   You're too tall.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'm too tall?  

17   Well, we can get a higher mic, so --

18                (Laughter.)

19                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

20   Mr. President, through you, if the sponsor will 

21   yield.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

23   the sponsor yield? 

24                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

25   Mr. President.  


                                                               4412

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 2   sponsor yields.

 3                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So one final 

 4   question.  Right now in different communities, 

 5   whether it be the city of Buffalo, the city of 

 6   Syracuse, the town of Amherst, there is -- you 

 7   know, there are a certain number of supermarkets, 

 8   it could be all types of supermarkets -- it could 

 9   be a big supermarket, could be a Walmart, could 

10   be a Wegmans, could be a convenience store, could 

11   be a corner store -- and there's a method and a 

12   modality of trying to determine how those all fit 

13   in.

14                Is there going to be some formula or 

15   some method that you are aware of at this point 

16   in time that is going to be utilized to try to 

17   figure out where to place food establishments so 

18   as not to put others out of business, so as to 

19   provide greatest access -- so for instance, if 

20   it's in a census tract which qualifies but it's 

21   next to another census tract which doesn't 

22   qualify but has a food establishment there -- I 

23   mean, what's the mechanism, what's the modality 

24   for figuring out what the location is, so as to 

25   provide the greatest benefit, which I think 


                                                               4413

 1   everybody wants to accomplish, and at the same 

 2   time not to do harm to an existing business which 

 3   is currently providing food, perhaps even healthy 

 4   food and fresh food, but not quite to the level 

 5   that is necessary?

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 7   Mr. President, the question is dealing with who 

 8   will qualify.  Food retail establishments defined 

 9   within the legislation include supermarkets, 

10   grocery retailers -- that could be any size of a 

11   grocery store retailer -- that sell meat, 

12   poultry, produce, seafood, baked goods, dairy 

13   products, participate in the Pride of New York 

14   program, accept EBT and SNAP and WIC, and hire 

15   individuals within 20 miles of that particular 

16   vicinity.

17                Depending on the census tract, 

18   depending on the business, and depending on the 

19   need of the community, Empire State Development, 

20   through this legislation, will be empowered to 

21   make decisions with the community on what will 

22   benefit that community the most and eradicate 

23   these food deserts across the state.

24                Different opportunities that have 

25   existed in the past have been wildly successful, 


                                                               4414

 1   that have run out of money.  And actually there's 

 2   safeguards in this legislation by bringing Empire 

 3   State Development to the table, by allowing them 

 4   to put in place clawback provisions within the 

 5   contract signed with that retailer.  

 6                So there are many different options 

 7   that exist.  But once again, what we are doing is 

 8   we are empowering ESD to help eradicate food 

 9   deserts in the State of New York.  Right now, 

10   following the status quo simply isn't working.  

11   And this legislation is imperative that we move 

12   the ball forward, we give communities that are 

13   underserved, that don't have access to fresh, 

14   healthy food options, the ability to have those 

15   options once and for all.  And finally.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Perhaps my 

17   microphone was not working.  I understand the --

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

19   Ranzenhofer, are you on the bill or are you 

20   asking a question?

21                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'm going to 

22   be asking a question in a moment.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   So 

24   Senator Ranzenhofer on the bill.

25                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   No, not on 


                                                               4415

 1   the bill.  If the sponsor will yield.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

 3   the sponsor yield?  

 4                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 6   sponsor yields.

 7                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Perhaps the 

 8   microphone wasn't working.  My question was not 

 9   who qualifies -- and I understand the background 

10   and the theory behind the program.  My question 

11   is, is there a mechanism that somebody can look 

12   at and say, okay, this is the way the program 

13   works?  

14                Now, you had referenced that this is 

15   wildly successful in other parts of the country.  

16   You had referenced the need.  So is there -- you 

17   know, for instance, let's say a company wants to 

18   be engaged in this program.  Is there somewhere 

19   that someone can go and say, okay, these are the 

20   parameters that it works that are used in a 

21   community?  Or is this something that is just 

22   discretionary -- perhaps arbitrary, perhaps not?  

23                But the basic question is, is there 

24   somewhere that someone can look at, because it's 

25   not in the four corners of the bill, and say, 


                                                               4416

 1   okay, this is the way the program works, this is 

 2   the way it looks, this is what we need to do to 

 3   qualify for the program?  

 4                That's as simply as I can put it, 

 5   what I'm trying to get at.

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 7   Mr. President.  First and foremost, I appreciate 

 8   my colleague's questions.  

 9                Let me tell you what I was 

10   referencing when I said that this was wildly 

11   successful in the past:  An aberration of this 

12   that no longer exists, the New York Healthy Food 

13   and Healthy Communities Fund, with $30 million in 

14   financing to develop healthy food across the 

15   state.  Five hundred full-time jobs were created, 

16   nearly a thousand construction jobs, as I've 

17   mentioned earlier, $10 million invested of the 

18   $30 million fund that is no longer, that has 

19   leveraged nearly $200 million in investment.

20                I would argue that's wildly 

21   successful.  While it's not perfect and it wasn't 

22   perfect -- and as mentioned by Senator Antonacci 

23   as well as, there have been businesses that 

24   utilized that program that didn't pan out.  

25   That's why it's important that Empire State 


                                                               4417

 1   Development, with the reins on this legislation 

 2   and ultimately, yes, if you want to use the word 

 3   discretion to put forward this initiative into 

 4   the community, could build in clawback provisions 

 5   to get incentives back if in fact these 

 6   businesses go belly up.

 7                But they also have discretion in 

 8   actually putting forward these incentives in the 

 9   first place.  And looking back at both the 

10   positives and the negatives of that initial 

11   investment that happened years ago, they can take 

12   that into consideration as they're moving these 

13   initiatives forward into these food deserts.  

14                And I've stated it two or three 

15   times throughout the course of this debate with a 

16   couple of my colleagues that Empire State 

17   Development will ultimately have the discretion 

18   to put forward these incentives and these grants, 

19   given the funding that ESD currently has within 

20   its auspices already -- unless, of course, by the 

21   time this is enacted next year in April we put 

22   further funding toward it in the budget.

23                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

24   Mr. President, I do have a few more questions if 

25   the sponsor will continue to yield.


                                                               4418

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

 2   the sponsor yield?

 3                SENATOR KENNEDY:   I will yield 

 4   despite the fact that my colleague is going back 

 5   on his commitment to only ask one more question.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 7   sponsor yields.  

 8                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Thank you.  

 9   Only because of the answers.  

10                So if I may, was there any money 

11   allocated in this year's budget for this program?  

12                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

13   Mr. President, there was no money allocated in 

14   this year's budget for this program because this 

15   program doesn't exist until today.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   And assuming 

17   that this passes and the program gets up and 

18   running, how much of an allocation will be 

19   included in next year's budget in order to make 

20   the program successful?  

21                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Is that another 

22   question, Mr. President?  

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Yes, it 

24   is.  Do you yield?

25                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, I'll yield.


                                                               4419

 1                Depending on the decisions that will 

 2   be made throughout the course of the next budget 

 3   process in 2020, there could be a separate 

 4   allocation of funds for Empire State Development 

 5   specifically focused on this bill and on the 

 6   language within this bill.  And quite frankly, 

 7   it's something that I'll be advocating on.  I 

 8   think the more we can work to eradicate these 

 9   food deserts -- again, as I already mentioned, we 

10   have a duty and an obligation to get after these 

11   food deserts and do our best to get rid of them.  

12                That being said, though, as the bill 

13   is written, up and until next year -- and it will 

14   be up to Empire State Development using the 

15   resources that are allocated through Empire State 

16   Development.  And we know that those numbers are 

17   robust, that they can find resources, depending 

18   on the community that they're working to serve, 

19   in order to implement this program.

20                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

21   Mr. President, if the sponsor will yield.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

23   the sponsor yield?

24                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 


                                                               4420

 1   sponsor yields.

 2                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So there's no 

 3   funding right now.  And I understand that, 

 4   because the program is being debated right now.  

 5   So how much of a state allocation would you be 

 6   requesting as a Senator that would be necessary 

 7   on a statewide basis to make this a successful 

 8   program?

 9                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

10   Mr. President, once we pass this bill and once 

11   the budget cycle begins, we will certainly 

12   address any funding gap that may exist.

13                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   

14   Mr. President, if the sponsor will continue to 

15   yield.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

17   the sponsor yield?

18                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

20   sponsor yields.

21                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   Yes.  Does 

22   the sponsor have any historical information in 

23   terms of how much money is needed to make a 

24   program like this work in the State of New York?

25                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 


                                                               4421

 1   Mr. President, the New York Healthy Food and 

 2   Healthy Communities Fund had $30 million 

 3   allocated to it.  That $30 million no longer 

 4   exists.  It has been zeroed out.  There were many 

 5   different opportunities and investments that 

 6   happened through that program across this state 

 7   in both Democratic and Republican districts.  I 

 8   can certainly provide that list to my colleague 

 9   if he's interested.

10                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   

11   Mr. President, a final question.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

13   the sponsor yield?

14                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

15   Mr. President.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

17   sponsor yields.  

18                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So would it 

19   be your thought, based on the Healthy New York 

20   program, that we would need an investment of at 

21   least $30 million to make this an effective 

22   program across the state?  

23                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

24   Mr. President, it is a separate bill from the 

25   New York Healthy Food and Healthy Communities 


                                                               4422

 1   Fund.  This bill specifically focuses on ESD, 

 2   given the resources that they currently have.  

 3                And it will be up to ESD to 

 4   determine within the confines of the budget 

 5   allocation that they've been given in this budget 

 6   cycle, to find the resources necessary in the 

 7   various pools of funding available to them to 

 8   enact this legislation in the various food 

 9   deserts across the state to allow for healthy 

10   fruits and vegetables to be provided in these 

11   communities.

12                That being said, if in fact there is 

13   a further need as determined between now and the 

14   next budget cycle, we will certainly take that 

15   into consideration.

16                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

17   Mr. President, one more final question?

18                (Laughter.)

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Does 

20   the sponsor yield?  

21                SENATOR KENNEDY:   For one more 

22   final answer, yes, Mr. President.  

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

24   sponsor yields.

25                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   So it is your 


                                                               4423

 1   understanding that with the passage of this 

 2   year's budget, with the allocation to UDC and 

 3   ESDC, that they are going to be using funds that 

 4   are allocated in this year's budget to get this 

 5   program up and running?

 6                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Through you, 

 7   Mr. President, yes.

 8                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:    

 9   Mr. President, I'd just like to thank the sponsor 

10   for the answers that he provided.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

12   Ranzenhofer on the bill.

13                SENATOR RANZENHOFER:   I'm done.  

14   Thank you.  I already thanked him.  Thank you.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Are 

16   there any other Senators wishing to be heard?

17                Seeing and hearing none, the debate 

18   is closed.

19                Senator Gianaris.

20                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

21   without objection, can we please return this bill 

22   to the noncontroversial calendar.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Without 

24   objection, so ordered.

25                Read the last section.


                                                               4424

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 2   act shall take effect on the first of April.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 4   the roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 7   Kennedy to explain his vote.

 8                SENATOR KENNEDY:   Yes, 

 9   Mr. President.  First of all, let me first of all 

10   thank you for your indulgence, thank my 

11   colleagues for their support of this bill, my 

12   colleagues for their questions.  And certainly to 

13   the leader, Andrea Stewart-Cousins, for making 

14   this a priority as we are addressing the lack of 

15   healthy food options throughout the State of 

16   New York and hopefully demonstrating to the rest 

17   of the nation how it's done.

18                It is so important that we give 

19   individuals -- regardless of zip code, regardless 

20   of socioeconomic status, regardless of 

21   demographics -- all across this state 

22   accessibility to fruits and vegetables.  We have 

23   to do everything in our power to eradicate these 

24   food deserts.  The work we have to get to that 

25   point is immense.  


                                                               4425

 1                By bringing in Empire State 

 2   Development and bringing in the ability for 

 3   New York State to actually invest in retailers 

 4   that are willing to go into these communities 

 5   that don't have access to these healthy options, 

 6   ultimately we are satisfying a goal that I think 

 7   is far too long in the making.  

 8                And with that, I'm very proud of 

 9   this legislation, the work that we've done with 

10   the local communities, with my colleagues in 

11   advancing it.  And I would ask my colleagues to 

12   support this legislation in making a real 

13   difference in the lifestyles, the ability for 

14   individuals to gain access to healthier 

15   lifestyles on a daily basis, once again, 

16   regardless of where they live.

17                Mr. President, I vote aye.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

19   Kennedy to be recorded in the affirmative.

20                Senator Montgomery to explain her 

21   vote.

22                SENATOR MONTGOMERY:   Yes, thank 

23   you, Mr. President.

24                I rise to thank Senator Kennedy for 

25   this legislation.  It's certainly satisfies a 


                                                               4426

 1   very important issue in my own district, as it 

 2   does, I'm sure, for many of us in this room who 

 3   represent food deserts for sure.  I'm thinking 

 4   about specifically Red Hook, who is also 

 5   represented by Assemblymember Ortiz, who is 

 6   carrying this bill in the Assembly; Farragut, 

 7   Bedford-Stuyvesant, parts of Bedford-Stuyvesant 

 8   in my district, certainly Ocean Hill and some 

 9   other areas.

10                And let me just say it's been many, 

11   many, many, many years that these have been 

12   communities that are food deserts for sure and 

13   communities with the highest rates of indicated 

14   diseases like obesity, for instance, 

15   hypertension, and other food-related health 

16   issues.

17                I'm very happy that there is in this 

18   legislation an opportunity for not-for-profit 

19   organizations that do sponsor farmers' markets.  

20   Because for many, many people that I represent, 

21   the farmers' markets is where they get their 

22   fresh produce.  And it's also where communities 

23   connect directly with farmers in our state.  

24                And so this bill really is very 

25   important.  And I want to say once again, for 


                                                               4427

 1   Senator Kennedy, I think you've thought it 

 2   through.  And you mentioned Wegmans.  We finally, 

 3   after many, many, many years, will be getting a 

 4   Wegmans in Brooklyn.  I'm just very excited about 

 5   it.  And I hope -- they were not able -- we were 

 6   not able to access this legislation on their 

 7   behalf, but I believe that this bill will help us 

 8   increase and improve access to fresh, healthy 

 9   food in parts of my district.  

10                So Mr. President, with that, I want 

11   to thank Senator Kennedy again, and I vote aye.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

13   Montgomery to be recorded in the affirmative.

14                Senator Rivera to explain his vote.

15                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.

17                Through you, Mr. President, I had 

18   the sense -- from listening to some of the 

19   debate, I had the sense that maybe Senator 

20   Kennedy was just a terrible person for suggesting 

21   such a thing.  And so I was like, I'm not sure if 

22   this is the right bill that they're discussing.  

23   So I went to the bill, Mr. President, and then I 

24   heard the discussion and I heard Senator Kennedy 

25   just explain over and over and over again that 


                                                               4428

 1   perhaps there's certain places in the state -- 

 2   and certainly the ones in my district, the ones 

 3   in Senator Montgomery's district -- where you 

 4   have food deserts and people who own businesses 

 5   who are looking to bring resources, fresh fruits 

 6   and vegetables and good resources that people can 

 7   bring to those parts of our state.  

 8                And the idea -- and again, I have to 

 9   check once and once and once and again.  And it 

10   just basically just creates the ability for 

11   certain entities to be able to seek state money 

12   for -- to be able to develop, you know, access to 

13   fruits and vegetables, fresh fruits and 

14   vegetables, in places that currently do not have 

15   them.

16                I think that's a great idea.  And I 

17   think that having access to state money is a -- 

18   and we can certainly have a conversation about 

19   the agency that manages it.  However, the idea 

20   that we would create economic opportunity by also 

21   creating opportunity for access for fresh fruits 

22   and vegetables and other things that will make 

23   communities healthier, I think that's a great 

24   idea.  

25                So Senator Kennedy -- through you, 


                                                               4429

 1   Mr. President -- I do not believe that you're a 

 2   terrible person.  The opposite is true; I believe 

 3   you're a great person with a great piece of 

 4   legislation.  I vote in the affirmative.  

 5                Thank you, Mr. President.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 7   Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

 8                Senator Lanza to explain his vote.

 9                SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

10   Mr. President.

11                First of all -- this only happens 

12   once in a while -- I agree with Senator Rivera.  

13   I don't think Senator Kennedy is a bad person 

14   either.

15                You know, but it's a little strange 

16   to suggest that debating ideas and talking about 

17   a bill and asking questions about how it will 

18   impact the people of the State of New York that 

19   we represent somehow implies personal feelings 

20   towards a member or not.  You know, that's the 

21   whole idea of this floor and why we attend.  If 

22   not, we should just all go home, maybe we could 

23   just phone in our votes.  

24                Debate is a good thing.  Asking 

25   questions about legislation is what we are 


                                                               4430

 1   supposed to do.

 2                You know, first let me say, with 

 3   respect to the merits of this, there's absolutely 

 4   no disagreement between myself and I think anyone 

 5   in this body and Senator Kennedy with respect to 

 6   the problem.  And I want to thank Senator Kennedy 

 7   for bringing attention and focus to this issue, 

 8   which is real.  Anything we could do, 

 9   Mr. President, in this state to create greater 

10   access to markets is what we ought to be doing.

11                Now, we can debate for a long time 

12   what is hindering that.  And I in particular 

13   agree with Senator Kennedy that anything -- if 

14   anyone -- if this legislation or anything else 

15   allows or incentivizes more retailers to bring 

16   good food, healthy food, nutritious food into 

17   more communities, that's a great thing.

18                Here's the problem I have with the 

19   legislation and why I'm not going to support it 

20   at this time.  And it's based on what we've 

21   discussed.  First of all, to have the Empire 

22   State Development Corp. be the arbiter with 

23   respect to the details of this program is greatly 

24   disturbing to me.  

25                You know, I've been paying attention 


                                                               4431

 1   for a number of years.  They've been around for a 

 2   number of years.  I don't recall a single 

 3   Democrat or Republican singing their praise.  

 4   Someone ought to tell me or point out one success 

 5   story that we can all agree they have 

 6   accomplished in the State of New York.  And it 

 7   would come as a surprise to me, because I listen 

 8   to my colleagues, and I don't know of any.  But I 

 9   think they've come under great criticism in a 

10   bipartisan way.

11                I would trust -- and I do trust 

12   Senator Kennedy and this body to provide the 

13   details.  I would rather that this legislation 

14   say, Hey, we're going to identify those areas 

15   that are in need, and this is what the program is 

16   going to do.  If you can meet that need, here's 

17   what you're going to get.  I'm all for that.  And 

18   as I said, I know that Senator Kennedy would do a 

19   better job than ESDC at accomplishing that.

20                And so sadly, because this is an 

21   important goal and I hope this does even one 

22   small thing in meeting the need -- but I'm 

23   doubtful, given the ambiguity of the legislation 

24   in terms of how this program will actually work.  

25   Again, I'd rather that Senator Kennedy and this 


                                                               4432

 1   legislative body come up with the details, maybe 

 2   in the way of an RFP or something else, a tax 

 3   incentive, available to everyone.  I think we 

 4   would do a better job.  I know Senator Kennedy 

 5   would do a better job than ESD.  

 6                So sadly, Mr. President, I'm going 

 7   to vote in the negative.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 9   Lanza to be recorded in the negative.

10                Senator Krueger to explain her vote.

11                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.

13                I get up to support Senator 

14   Kennedy's bill, although I have to say Senator 

15   Lanza has some pretty good points.  It's very 

16   hard to find anything that I think ESDC has done 

17   well either.  But I support this bill because 

18   it's so crucial that we do a model in the State 

19   of New York.

20                Back in the early 1990s, I worked 

21   with an organization, Community Food Resource 

22   Center, that did research on food deserts in 

23   New York City.  And we worked with the City 

24   Council to change some zoning and to try to 

25   increase loans to food stores to locate in poor 


                                                               4433

 1   communities.  

 2                And what I learned at that time was 

 3   it was not just by accident that there were 

 4   sometimes food deserts, but that there were those 

 5   in the food industry themselves who wanted to 

 6   make sure that stores that sold healthy foods, 

 7   fruits and vegetables, more nutritious foods, 

 8   weren't allowed to open up or remain open in 

 9   locations where poor people lived because they 

10   actually had their own stores in these 

11   communities that weren't providing healthy fresh 

12   foods and vegetables.  They had their own stores 

13   in these communities where they were charging 

14   radically more than other stores and supermarkets 

15   would charge, and that they were trapped in this 

16   game with some disturbed -- excuse me, some 

17   disturbing wholesalers who were setting this 

18   whole thing up.

19                And so it was clear then, and it's 

20   still clear today, we as the State of New York 

21   need to make some investments to make sure that 

22   there are healthy food stores in all communities, 

23   particularly underserved communities, poor 

24   communities.  There are models -- another 

25   Senator, in questioning, said are there any 


                                                               4434

 1   models.  There are fabulous models out there.  

 2   Pennsylvania has had The Food Trust organization 

 3   for years and has probably done the best job of 

 4   expanding targeted food stores.  And so there are 

 5   even handbooks on their website how to do it 

 6   right.  

 7                So we could actually do it right in 

 8   this state, and it would be a great victory for 

 9   all of our communities.  And let's not forget 

10   creating more food stores in poor communities has 

11   been shown to not reduce the number of food 

12   stores, but to actually expand the number of food 

13   stores.  And food stores create real jobs.  

14   They're not online, they're real jobs in our 

15   communities, bricks-and-mortar stores, there are 

16   truck deliveries with truckers delivering food.  

17   Our agriculture grows when there's more 

18   opportunity to buy food.  And of course in the 

19   poorest communities it means SNAP can be used for 

20   healthier foods, which is also a critical win.  

21                So yes, I want to hold the State of 

22   New York's feet to the fire when this becomes law 

23   to make sure we do it right, because we can.

24                But I want to thank Senator Kennedy 

25   for not ignoring a very real issue for so many 


                                                               4435

 1   particularly poor underserved communities in the 

 2   State of New York.  I proudly vote yes.

 3                Thank you, Mr. President.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 5   Krueger to be recorded in the affirmative.

 6                Senator May to explain her vote.

 7                SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

 8   Mr. President.  And I want to thank Senator 

 9   Kennedy for bringing this bill.  

10                Senator Antonacci brought up an 

11   unfortunate circumstance that did happen in 

12   Syracuse.  I think it was more nuanced than just 

13   a two-way competition.  But it's possible that 

14   that actually would have been improved if we'd 

15   had some coordination and equitable support for 

16   the development of grocery stores in Syracuse.

17                As it is now, 30 percent of 

18   households in Syracuse have no car.  And public 

19   transportation is wholly inadequate.  Even the 

20   sidewalks aren't systematically cleared of snow.  

21   So getting to a grocery is very difficult for 

22   many, many families in Syracuse.  So this has the 

23   potential to make real difference for people 

24   there.

25                Meanwhile, I think we need to 


                                                               4436

 1   remember that those of us who drive cars out to 

 2   the Wegmans or other big supermarkets are being 

 3   subsidized all the time for our use of those cars 

 4   in the form of road maintenance and policing, in 

 5   the form of subsidies for fossil fuels and for 

 6   climate change that we are all -- our children 

 7   are subsidizing on our behalf.

 8                And so I think it only is reasonable 

 9   to take steps to make sure that this kind of 

10   healthy food is available to the people who have 

11   no access and have no access because the 

12   so-called free market is setting up winners and 

13   losers in our society all the time that don't 

14   deserve to have -- or the losers, anyway, don't 

15   deserve to lose.

16                So I thank Senator Kennedy for this 

17   bill, and I proudly vote yes.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

19   May to be recorded in the affirmative.

20                Senator Comrie to explain his vote.

21                SENATOR COMRIE:   Thank you, 

22   Mr. President.  I also rise to support Senator 

23   Kennedy's bill.  

24                Back when -- about 12 years ago, we 

25   addressed this issue in New York City, in the 


                                                               4437

 1   City Council, and we realized that the creation 

 2   of food alternatives lifts the bar for everybody.  

 3   It creates more responsible delis, it creates 

 4   more responsible local stores that are trying to 

 5   stay competitive.  It creates an opportunity for 

 6   everyone that is selling product to understand 

 7   that there will be more product available, more 

 8   fresh product available.

 9                We created fresh fruit carts in the 

10   city to try to deal with food deserts, and they 

11   were successful for a while.  But what happened 

12   was all of the stores got better.  All of the 

13   bodegas got better.  All of the food markets got 

14   better.  And it came to the point where the food 

15   carts were no longer necessary because all of the 

16   stores got better and delivered fresher fruit and 

17   fresher product to the communities.

18                I would hope that there's 

19   competition in the food deserts by multiple large 

20   box retailers to try to deliver food in food 

21   deserts.  Because the food deserts are in black 

22   and brown communities.  The food deserts are in 

23   impoverished communities such as Syracuse, where 

24   you can't get transportation.  The food deserts 

25   are in the places where people most need to find 


                                                               4438

 1   healthy alternatives so that they -- well, I was 

 2   going to say something about myself, but I'm 

 3   going to leave that alone.

 4                (Laughter.)

 5                SENATOR COMRIE:   But it's important 

 6   that we create healthy alternatives for people.  

 7                So I want to applaud Senator Kennedy 

 8   for this legislation.  I want to applaud all of 

 9   us for trying to continue to think about 

10   incentives also for businesses in the state.  And 

11   I hope that we do more of both.  It's important 

12   that we incentivize businesses that want to 

13   locate in New York State, that want to do right.  

14   It's important that we try to come up with 

15   healthy food options to make sure that every 

16   resident in New York State can live a healthier 

17   life.  

18                And as I want to just continue to 

19   emphasize to Senator Kennedy and to all of us, 

20   it's important that we as legislators try to do 

21   everything we can to benefit the residents of 

22   New York State.

23                I vote aye.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

25   Comrie to be recorded in the affirmative.


                                                               4439

 1                Senator Bailey to explain his vote.

 2                SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.

 4                Let me be clear.  It's very 

 5   important that we incentivize healthy eating.  As 

 6   you know, I reside in the Bronx, New York, which 

 7   has been rated No. 62 out of 62 counties by the 

 8   Robert Wood Johnson Foundation in so many health 

 9   metrics.  

10                And if you think about what food is, 

11   it is a path to well-being.  And so many people 

12   in the Borough of the Bronx are not on that path, 

13   Mr. President.

14                When I was in law school, I watched 

15   a video called "Bodega Down Bronx," and it talked 

16   about how food gets from certain locations to 

17   bodegas and what people in urban communities 

18   believe is fresh fruit.  It saddened me one day 

19   when I watching this video that this young girl 

20   picked up a fruit pie, a grape fruit pie, and she 

21   said, "This is what I eat.  This is grapes."  

22                Those are not grapes.  It's 

23   processed food.  But if you live in an area where 

24   you are conditioned to believe that and you don't 

25   have the ability or the access to go elsewhere, 


                                                               4440

 1   what else are your options?  Your options are to 

 2   eat this processed food or literally starve, 

 3   Mr. President.  We eat food to live.

 4                Why is it that in certain chains the 

 5   price for food is higher in certain communities 

 6   in certain zip codes but it's lower in other ones 

 7   for the same exact item?  Poverty has so many 

 8   taxes on it.  And we cannot afford to not promote 

 9   growth, as Senator Comrie said.  Promote that we 

10   have competition in these communities.

11                So I'm not the biggest fan of the 

12   big box stores, but if you want to -- if Trader 

13   Joe's wants to battle Whole Foods and they want 

14   to battle Wegmans and Fairway and you all want to 

15   pay people the right wages and you want to feed 

16   people the right thing in my district, have at 

17   that.  We have to have more so that we can do 

18   better, Mr. President.  

19                And Senator Kennedy, I applaud you.  

20   Thank you for bringing this what I believe to be 

21   commonsense bill to the floor.  

22                I vote aye, Mr. President.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

24   Bailey to be recorded in the affirmative.  

25                Senator Sepúlveda to explain his 


                                                               4441

 1   vote.

 2                SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President, for allowing me to explain my 

 4   vote.

 5                I think Senators Bailey and Rivera 

 6   have stolen some of my thunder.  But anyone who's 

 7   opposed to this bill for whatever reason, I 

 8   invite you to come and spend a week, a month, I 

 9   should say, and eat the foods that we see in our 

10   communities that we represent, come and enjoy an 

11   entree of processed food and meats that are laden 

12   with fat and laden with a lot of unhealthy stuff 

13   that don't go into richer neighborhoods.  Foods 

14   that are stale, fruits that are old, terrible 

15   things that you see in these communities that 

16   they call food, which I wouldn't feed to my 

17   animals.  

18                You know, I can tell you that if you 

19   look at the Bronx, for example, we have the 

20   highest diabetic rate, we have the highest rate 

21   of obesity amongst children, and we have the 

22   highest rate of asthma.  We have the highest rate 

23   of a lot of things that are bad in terms of 

24   health.  And so we need to do whatever we can to 

25   change that.  


                                                               4442

 1                Now, 75 percent of the problems that 

 2   we have medically, all of us as individuals, is 

 3   premised on the kind of food that we eat.  And 

 4   I'll give you an example.  Myself, I became a 

 5   vegan two years ago.  I lost 37 pounds.  I 

 6   also -- my cholesterol level was 205.  Today I am 

 7   at 128.  My triglycerides two years ago predicted 

 8   I was going to have a heart attack -- and I know 

 9   some members in this chamber wouldn't mind if I 

10   had one anyway.  

11                (Laughter.)

12                SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   But the reality 

13   is that as a result of eating good food, all my 

14   biological metrics, all of them have improved to 

15   the point where I'm like a 25-year-old.  

16                And this is what I'd like to see in 

17   my community, to see the children getting fresh 

18   food, eliminating processed foods completely, to 

19   see children getting vegetables that you want to 

20   eat, to see the children getting stuff that are 

21   high quality, low fat, high protein and high good 

22   stuff.  I want to see that throughout my 

23   community, and you won't see that.  

24                So thank you, Senator Kennedy.  This 

25   is a wonderful bill that I think can be 


                                                               4443

 1   transformative in the kind of community that I 

 2   represent.  And so we needed this, and let's 

 3   continue to do more.  Rather than object to a 

 4   bill because we don't like the agency that's 

 5   running it, let's give it a try.  Let's see how 

 6   we can do this, and let's see if we can work to 

 7   improve the diets of the communities that we 

 8   represent.  

 9                I vote affirmatively.  

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

11   Sepúlveda to be recorded in the affirmative.

12                Announce the results.

13                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14   Calendar Number 852, those Senators voting in the 

15   negative are Senators Akshar, Antonacci, Boyle, 

16   Flanagan, Griffo, Jordan, Lanza, Serino, Seward, 

17   Skoufis and Tedisco.  Also Senator Ranzenhofer.  

18                Ayes, 49.  Nays, 12.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

20   bill is passed.

21                Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

22   reading of today's calendar.

23                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

24   if we can please return to reports of standing 

25   committees.  I believe there's a report of the 


                                                               4444

 1   Rules Committee at the desk.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Reports 

 3   of standing committees.  

 4                There is a report of the Rules 

 5   Committee at the desk.  

 6                The Secretary will read.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Senator 

 8   Stewart-Cousins, from the Committee on Rules, 

 9   reports the following bills:  

10                Senate Print 202, by Senator Ortt, 

11   an act relating to authorizing the City of 

12   Niagara Falls, County of Niagara, to reduce the 

13   speed limit in downtown Niagara Falls; 

14                Senate Print 245A, by 

15   Senator Kennedy, an act to amend the 

16   Social Services Law; 

17                Senate Print 496, by Senator Rivera, 

18   an act to amend the Election Law; 

19                Senate Print 1084A, by 

20   Senator Persaud, an act to amend the 

21   Administrative Code of the City of New York; 

22                Senate Print 1085A, by 

23   Senator Persaud, an act to amend the Agriculture 

24   and Markets Law; 

25                Senate Print 1342A, by Senator 


                                                               4445

 1   Rivera, an act to amend the Public Health Law; 

 2                Senate Print 1548, by Senator 

 3   Kennedy, an act to amend the Highway Law; 

 4                Senate Print 1590, by Senator 

 5   Sanders, an act to amend the Election Law; 

 6                Senate Print 1718, by Senator 

 7   Carlucci, an act to amend the Election Law; 

 8                Senate Print 1732, by 

 9   Senator Jacobs, an act to amend the 

10   General Municipal Law; 

11                Senate Print 1769, by 

12   Senator Sepúlveda, an act to amend the 

13   General Business Law; 

14                Senate Print 2088, by 

15   Senator Sanders, an act to amend the Banking Law 

16   and the Penal Law; 

17                Senate Print 2311, by Senator 

18   Kavanagh, an act to amend the Election Law; 

19                Senate Print 2490, by 

20   Senator Addabbo, an act to amend the 

21   Environmental Conservation Law; 

22                Senate Print 2922, by Senator 

23   Stavisky, an act to amend the Education Law; 

24                Senate Print 2923, by Senator 

25   Stavisky, an act to amend the Insurance Law; 


                                                               4446

 1                Senate Print 3082, by 

 2   Senator Carlucci, an act to amend the Parks, 

 3   Recreation and Historic Preservation Law; 

 4                Senate Print 3204, by 

 5   Senator Comrie, an act establishing the 400 Years 

 6   of African-American History Commission; 

 7                Senate Print 3392, by Senator May, 

 8   an act to amend the Environmental Conservation 

 9   Law; 

10                Senate Print 4070B, by 

11   Senator Biaggi, an act to amend the Education 

12   Law; 

13                Senate Print 4294, by Senator May, 

14   an act to amend Chapter 264 of the Laws of 2009; 

15                Senate Print 4468, by 

16   Senator Addabbo, an act authorizing 

17   Jonathan Grossman to apply for a recalculation of 

18   his retirement benefits; 

19                Senate Print 4479, by 

20   Senator Comrie, an act to amend the New York 

21   State Urban Development Corporation Act; 

22                Senate Print 4699, by Senator Ramos, 

23   an act in relation to requiring the Commissioner 

24   of Health to conduct a study relating to the 

25   number of emergency room beds; 


                                                               4447

 1                Senate Print 4808, by Senator 

 2   Harckham, an act to amend the Insurance Law; 

 3                Senate Print 4876, by 

 4   Senator Metzger, an act to amend the 

 5   Environmental Conservation Law; 

 6                Senate Print 4956, by 

 7   Senator Benjamin, an act to amend the 

 8   Business Corporation Law and the Not-For-Profit 

 9   Corporation Law; 

10                Senate Print 5021, by 

11   Senator Metzger, an act to amend the 

12   Environmental Conservation Law; 

13                Senate Print 5071, by Senator 

14   Skoufis, an act to amend the Education Law; 

15                Senate Print 5097, by 

16   Senator Gaughran, an act granting retroactive 

17   membership with Tier II status in the New York 

18   State Teachers' Retirement System to Lori Cohen; 

19                Senate Print 5193A, by 

20   Senator O'Mara, an act to amend Chapter 210 of 

21   the Laws of 2009; 

22                Senate Print 5408, by 

23   Senator Martinez, an act to amend the 

24   Environmental Conservation Law; 

25                Senate Print 5532B, by 


                                                               4448

 1   Senator Gianaris, an act to amend the 

 2   Agriculture and Markets Law; and

 3                Senate Print 6185, by Senator May, 

 4   an act to amend the Transportation Law.

 5                All bills ordered direct to third 

 6   reading.

 7                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

 8   the report of the Rules Committee.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   All in 

10   favor of accepting the report of the Rules 

11   Committee signify by saying aye.

12                (Response of "Aye.")

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

14   Opposed, nay.

15                (No response.)

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

17   Rules Committee report is accepted.

18                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

19   if we can now move back to motions.  

20                On behalf of Senator Gounardes, on 

21   page 61 I offer the following amendments to 

22   Calendar Number 847, Senate Print 5246, and ask 

23   that said bill retain its place on the 

24   Third Reading Calendar.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 


                                                               4449

 1   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

 2   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 3                SENATOR GIANARIS:   On behalf of 

 4   Senator Benjamin, on page 3 I offer the following 

 5   amendments to Calendar 1144, Senate Print 4956, 

 6   and ask that said bill retain its place on 

 7   Third Reading Calendar.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 9   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

10   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

11                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can you 

12   recognize Senator Gallivan, please.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

14   Gallivan.

15                SENATOR GALLIVAN:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.

17                On behalf of Senator Antonacci, on 

18   page 55 I offer the following amendments to 

19   Calendar Number 761, Senate Print Number 4471, 

20   and ask that said bill retain its place on the 

21   Third Reading Calendar.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

23   amendments are received, and the bill shall 

24   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

25                Senator Gianaris.


                                                               4450

 1                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

 2   remaining with motions and resolutions, can we 

 3   now take up as a group previously adopted 

 4   Resolutions 1614, 1615, 1617, and 1618, read 

 5   their titles only, and recognize Senator Addabbo 

 6   on the resolutions.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 8   Secretary will read.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

10   1614, by Senator Addabbo, commemorating the 

11   40th Anniversary of the American Italian Heritage 

12   Association.  

13                Senate Resolution 1615, by 

14   Senator Addabbo, commending Joe Girardi upon the 

15   occasion of being selected as an honoree for this 

16   year's Italian American Day on June 3, 2019.

17                Senate Resolution 1617, by 

18   Senator Addabbo, commending Ricky Byrd upon the 

19   occasion of being selected as an honoree for this 

20   year's Italian American Day on June 3, 2019.

21                Senate Resolution 1618, by 

22   Senator Addabbo, memorializing Governor Andrew M. 

23   Cuomo to proclaim June 3, 2019, as Italian 

24   American Day in the State of New York.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 


                                                               4451

 1   Addabbo on the resolutions.

 2                SENATOR ADDABBO:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.

 4                Good afternoon, everyone.

 5                Today we are all Italian.  We join 

 6   the 3 million Italians in our state.  I want to 

 7   thank this body and the Governor for 

 8   acknowledging Italian Heritage Day on this first 

 9   Monday in June.

10                The Conference of Italian American 

11   Legislators, I want to thank them all, because 

12   they really did phenomenal work.

13                One of the best things we do this 

14   year is not only promote the positive influences 

15   of Italian Americans, but we hand out 

16   scholarships for students throughout the state.  

17   And this year we handed out four scholarships, 

18   each totaling $3,500.  The scholarship winners 

19   for this year are Logan Tyler Meda, in Senator 

20   Carlucci's district; Mia Lily Cutrona, from 

21   Senator Lanza's district; Jared William Welch, 

22   from Senator Akshar's district; and Jason 

23   Carretta, from Senator Lanza's district.  

24                We congratulate all the scholarship 

25   winners, and we wish them well in their future 


                                                               4452

 1   endeavors.

 2                This year also we have three 

 3   honorees for our Festa.  You are all invited at 

 4   6:30 tonight to the Italian Festa.  It's a great 

 5   segue from the previous debate that we spoke 

 6   about food, because us Italians are all about 

 7   food.  So you'll have good food at the Festa.  

 8                This year we have three honorees.  

 9   Our first honoree is Ricky Byrd.  Ricky Byrd is a 

10   member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  The 

11   man played guitar with Paul McCartney on the 

12   stage at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  He 

13   thinks this is a big deal.  

14                Ricky is an original member of the 

15   Blackhearts.  If you've ever heard of Joan Jett & 

16   the Blackhearts, that's Ricky Byrd.  

17                And we honor him today not only for 

18   his induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of 

19   Fame, but Ricky was the founder of the Rockers in 

20   Recovery, treating industry musicians for their 

21   addictions.  And he always applauded us for the 

22   work we did on the opioid addiction.  Ricky, 

23   thank you for your work.  Really appreciate it.  

24                We're also honoring Mario Cilento, 

25   president of the New York State AFL-CIO, for his 


                                                               4453

 1   dedicated work for our dedicated workers 

 2   throughout the state.  

 3                And last but not least, World 

 4   Series, Major League Baseball, world champion 

 5   catcher -- this is hard to do as a Met fan, I'm 

 6   sorry -- but we are honoring Joe Girardi, the 

 7   third of this year's honorees.  Again, everyone 

 8   is welcome to the Festa at 6:30.  

 9                We are also acknowledging through 

10   the resolutions today the American Italian 

11   Heritage Association.  They are celebrating their 

12   40th anniversary, 10th anniversary of the museum 

13   located in Albany, and the fifth anniversary of 

14   its Cultural Center.  And we have its members 

15   standing before us today as well.  We 

16   congratulate them.  

17                I want to thank you all for being 

18   honored and for your service to our state.  Thank 

19   you all.  

20                My colleagues, thank you so much for 

21   your time today.  Thank you, Mr. President.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   To our 

23   guests, I welcome you on behalf of the Senate.  

24   We extend to you all the privileges and 

25   courtesies of this house.  Please rise and be 


                                                               4454

 1   recognized.

 2                (Standing ovation.)

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 4   resolution was previously adopted on May 30th.

 5                Senator Gianaris.

 6                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

 7   Senator Addabbo would like to open that 

 8   resolution for cosponsorship.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   resolution is open for cosponsorship.  Should you 

11   choose not to be a cosponsor of the resolution, 

12   please notify the desk.

13                Senator Gianaris.

14                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can we now take 

15   up the reading of the supplemental calendar.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

17   Secretary will read.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   1019, Senate Print 202, by Senator Ortt, an act 

20   relating to authorizing the City of Niagara 

21   Falls, County of Niagara, to reduce the speed 

22   limit in downtown Niagara Falls.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   There 

24   is a home-rule message at the desk.

25                Read the last section.  


                                                               4455

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 4   the roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 7   Announce the results.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   bill is passed.

11                There is a substitution at the desk.  

12                The Secretary will read.

13                THE SECRETARY:   On page 1, 

14   Senator Kennedy moves to discharge, from the 

15   Committee on Finance, Assembly Bill Number 580 

16   and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

17   245A, Third Reading Calendar 1119.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

19   substitution is so ordered.

20                The Secretary will read.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   1119, Assembly Print Number 580, by 

23   Assemblymember Jaffee, an act to amend the 

24   Social Services Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 


                                                               4456

 1   the last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.  

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 5   the roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 8   Announce the results.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10   Calendar Number 1119, voting in the negative:  

11   Senator Helming.  

12                Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

14   bill is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   1120, Senate Print 496, by Senator Rivera, an act 

17   to amend the Election Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

19   the last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

23   the roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    


                                                               4457

 1   Announce the results.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3   Calendar 1120, those Senators voting in the 

 4   negative are Senators Akshar, Amedore, Antonacci, 

 5   Boyle, Flanagan, Gallivan, Griffo, Jacobs, 

 6   Jordan, Lanza, LaValle, Little, O'Mara, Ritchie, 

 7   Robach, Serino, Seward and Tedisco.  

 8                Ayes, 43.  Nays, 18.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   bill is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1122, Senate Print 1085A, by Senator Persaud, an 

13   act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

15   the last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

19   the roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

22   Announce the results.

23                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24   Calendar Number 1122, those Senators voting in 

25   the negative are Senators Akshar, Amedore, 


                                                               4458

 1   Antonacci, Helming, Jacobs and Little.  

 2                Ayes, 55.  Nays, 6.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 4   bill is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   1123, Senate Print 1342A, by Senator Rivera, an 

 7   act to amend the Public Health Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 9   the last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

13   the roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

16   Announce the results.

17                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18   Calendar Number 1123, voting in the negative:  

19   Senator Lanza.

20                Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

22   bill is passed. 

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   1124, Senate Print 1548, by Senator Kennedy, an 

25   act to amend the Highway Law.


                                                               4459

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   There 

 2   is a home-rule message at the desk.

 3                Read the last section.  

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5   act shall take effect immediately.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 7   the roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

10   Announce the results.

11                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12   Calendar Number 1124, recorded in the negative:  

13   Senator Funke.

14                Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

16   bill is passed.

17                There is a substitution at the desk.  

18                The Secretary will read.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Sanders 

20   moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

21   Finance, Assembly Bill Number 163 and substitute 

22   it for the identical Senate Bill 1590, 

23   Third Reading Calendar 1125.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

25   substitution is so ordered.


                                                               4460

 1                The Secretary will read.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1125, Assembly Print Number 163, by 

 4   Assemblymember Rosenthal, an act to amend the 

 5   Election Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 7   the last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9   act shall take effect January 1, 2021.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

11   the roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

14   Akshar to explain his vote.

15                SENATOR AKSHAR:   Mr. President, 

16   thank you very much for your indulgence to 

17   explain my vote.  

18                The sponsor and I had the good 

19   fortune of having a discussion about this bill 

20   last year on several occasions.  Sadly, we 

21   couldn't move it.  

22                From my perspective, the sample 

23   ballot online is not problematic so long as there 

24   is an appropriate framework surrounding that 

25   particular posting of the sample ballot being put 


                                                               4461

 1   online -- and, of course, putting the appropriate 

 2   safeguards in place.  

 3                In this particular bill, in the 

 4   bill-in-chief, there's no specific language that 

 5   differentiates between the actual ballot that is 

 6   accepted in the voting machine and the sample 

 7   ballot that's being put online.  One could 

 8   potentially print off the sample ballot that is 

 9   online and then use that very same ballot on 

10   Election Day.  

11                And I think what exacerbates that 

12   particular issue that I speak of is the bill that 

13   we passed on the 22nd of May that Senator Myrie 

14   sponsored where we've removed the perforation and 

15   the tab on the ballot.  And by doing so, we did 

16   away with ballot accountability in that 

17   particular piece of legislation.  So my fear is 

18   that the bill-in-chief, along with the bill that 

19   we passed on the 22nd of May, is going to 

20   encourage fraud in the system.  

21                The goal is always to encourage 

22   participation, and I think we've done that in 

23   many different ways with the voting reforms that 

24   we've passed.  But we should never do that, that 

25   goal should never be achieved at the expense of 


                                                               4462

 1   ballot integrity.  And I think that that's what's 

 2   going to happen here.  

 3                Mr. President, I vote no.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 5   Akshar to be recorded in the negative.

 6                Announce the results.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8   Calendar Number 1125, those Senators voting in 

 9   the negative are Senators Akshar, Amedore, 

10   Antonacci, Boyle, Flanagan, Funke, Gallivan, 

11   Griffo, Helming, Jacobs, Jordan, LaValle, Little, 

12   O'Mara, Ortt, Ranzenhofer, Ritchie, Robach, 

13   Serino, Seward and Tedisco.  

14                Ayes, 40.  Nays, 21.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

16   bill is passed.

17                There is a substitution at the desk.

18                The Secretary will read.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Carlucci 

20   moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

21   Elections, Assembly Bill Number 1565 and 

22   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 1718, 

23   Third Reading Calendar 1126.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

25   substitution is so ordered.


                                                               4463

 1                The Secretary will read.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1126, Assembly Print Number 1565, by 

 4   Assemblymember Galef, an act to amend the 

 5   Election Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 7   the last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9   act shall take effect one year after it shall 

10   have become a law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

12   the roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

15   Announce the results.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

18   bill is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1127, Senate Print 1732, by Senator Jacobs, an 

21   act to amend the General Municipal Law.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

23   the last section.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25   act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               4464

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 2   the roll.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 5   Announce the results.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.  

 7   Senator Antonacci recorded in the negative.  

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 9   bill is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   1128, Senate Print 1769, by Senator Sepúlveda, an 

12   act to amend the General Business Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

14   the last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

18   the roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

21   Announce the results.

22                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23   Calendar Number 1128, those Senators voting in 

24   the negative are Senators Amedore, Flanagan, 

25   Gallivan, Jacobs, Jordan, Lanza, Little, Serino 


                                                               4465

 1   and Tedisco --

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 3   Little to explain her vote.

 4                SENATOR LITTLE:   Thank you, 

 5   Mr. President.

 6                Certainly no one wants to see 

 7   someone held against their will for a long period 

 8   of time.  But when you limit it to one hour of -- 

 9   in order to have the police come and to actually 

10   apprehend someone who has been found shoplifting 

11   in a store, that's not always possible in my 

12   area.  So it may take longer than that, and it 

13   should, you know, be allowed.

14                So you certainly wouldn't let the 

15   person go just because the police were taking so 

16   long to come.  We don't have police departments 

17   in every single town.  We rely on the State 

18   Police, the sheriff's department, and it does 

19   take time, unfortunately.  

20                So I vote no.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

22   Little to be recorded in the negative.

23                Announce the results.

24                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25   Calendar Number 1128, those Senators voting in 


                                                               4466

 1   the negative are Senators Amedore, Antonacci, 

 2   Boyle, Flanagan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

 3   Jacobs, Jordan, Lanza, Little, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 4   Ranzenhofer, Robach, Serino, Seward and Tedisco.

 5                Ayes, 43.  Nays, 18.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 7   bill is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   1129, Senate Print 2088, by Senator Sanders, an 

10   act to amend the Banking Law and the Penal Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

12   the last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 11.  This 

14   act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

15   shall have become a law.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

17   the roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

20   Announce the results.

21                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22   Calendar Number 1129, those Senators voting in 

23   the negative are Senators Amedore, Antonacci, 

24   Boyle, Flanagan, Funke, Gallivan, Griffo, 

25   Helming, Jacobs, Jordan, LaValle, O'Mara, Ortt, 


                                                               4467

 1   Ranzenhofer, Ritchie, Robach, Seward and Tedisco.  

 2                Ayes, 43.  Nays, 18.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 4   bill is passed.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   1130, Senate Print 2311, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

 7   act to amend the Election Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 9   the last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

13   the roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

16   Announce the results.

17                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18   Calendar Number 1130, those Senators voting in 

19   the negative are Senators Amedore, Flanagan, 

20   Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Jacobs, Jordan, 

21   O'Mara, Ortt, Ranzenhofer, Ritchie, Robach, 

22   Serino, Seward and Tedisco.

23                Ayes, 46.  Nays, 15.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

25   bill is passed.


                                                               4468

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   1131, Senate Print 2490, by Senator Addabbo, an 

 3   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 5   the last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 8   shall have become a law.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

10   the roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

13   Announce the results.

14                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15   Calendar Number 1131, those Senators voting in 

16   the negative are Senators Amedore, Antonacci, 

17   Flanagan, Gallivan, Griffo, Jordan, O'Mara, Ortt 

18   and Robach. 

19                Ayes, 52.  Nays, 9.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

21   bill is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   1132, Senate Print 2922, by Senator Stavisky, an 

24   act to amend the Education Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 


                                                               4469

 1   the last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 5   the roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 8   Announce the results.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

11   bill is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1133, Senate Print 2923, by Senator Stavisky, an 

14   act to amend the Insurance Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

16   the last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

19   shall have become a law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

21   the roll.

22                (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

24   Announce the results.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.  


                                                               4470

 1   Senator Helming recorded in the negative.  

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 3   bill is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   1134, Senate Print 3082, by Senator Carlucci, an 

 6   act to amend the Parks, Recreation and Historic 

 7   Preservation Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 9   the last section.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11   act shall take effect immediately.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

13   the roll.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

16   Announce the results.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

19   bill is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1135, Senate Print 3204, by Senator Comrie, an 

22   act establishing the 400 Years of 

23   African-American History Commission.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

25   the last section.


                                                               4471

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 4   the roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 7   Announce the results.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

10   bill is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   1136, Senate Print 3392, by Senator May, an act 

13   to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

15   the last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

19   the roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

22   May to explain her vote.

23                SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.

25                I want to thank my colleagues and 


                                                               4472

 1   the Majority Leader for supporting this important 

 2   bill, and the advocates who have worked so hard 

 3   to raise awareness about this issue.  

 4                New York State has wisely banned 

 5   fracking, largely to protect our land, water and 

 6   air from harmful environmental impacts.  But we 

 7   unaccountably exempt fracking waste and other 

 8   waste from oil and gas extraction from our 

 9   hazardous waste regulations.  Over 600,000 tons 

10   of solid waste and 23,000 barrels of liquid waste 

11   from fracking in Pennsylvania have made their way 

12   into our state, possibly containing benzene, 

13   formaldehyde, and other carcinogens, as well as 

14   radioactive elements.  

15                The hazardous waste loophole must 

16   finally be closed for the safety of all 

17   New Yorkers and our natural resources.  And it 

18   gives me great pride to sponsor this legislation 

19   and see it finally pass in the Senate for the 

20   first time.  Thank you.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

22   May to be recorded in the affirmative.

23                Announce the results.

24                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25   Calendar 1136, those Senators voting in the 


                                                               4473

 1   negative are Senators Amedore, Antonacci, 

 2   Flanagan, Funke, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

 3   Jacobs, Jordan, Lanza, O'Mara, Ortt, Ranzenhofer, 

 4   Ritchie, Robach, Seward and Tedisco.  

 5                Ayes, 44.  Nays, 17.  

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 7   bill is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   1137, Senate Print 4070B, by Senator Biaggi, an 

10   act to amend the Education Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

12   the last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

14   act shall take effect on the first of July.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

16   the roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

19   Biaggi to explain her vote.

20                SENATOR BIAGGI:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.

22                I want to first begin by thanking 

23   our leader, Senator Andrea Stewart-Cousins, for 

24   bringing this bill to the floor.  

25                As many people in this chamber 


                                                               4474

 1   probably already know, this bill has been pending 

 2   in New York State for seven years.  And it's 

 3   because of the work of this conference, our 

 4   leader, and Erin Merryn, who is the creator 

 5   behind this bill's name's origin, Erin's Law, and 

 6   her national leadership in fighting for sexual 

 7   abuse victims and for policies like this one to 

 8   make sure that abuse does not continue.

 9                I also want to thank Gary Greenberg, 

10   because he is an instrumental part of this 

11   legislation as well, and he has been tireless in 

12   this body as well as in the Assembly.  

13                This bill is incredibly essential to 

14   me as a human being and as a State Senator 

15   because as you all have already heard me speak in 

16   this chamber about, I am a child sexual abuse 

17   survivor.  And had I had education or knowledge 

18   at any step of the way, I would have been able to 

19   prevent years and years and years of what the 

20   trauma from that event had caused for me in my 

21   life.  

22                I know how important it is for 

23   children to have the tools that they need to 

24   protect themselves and to stop abuse and to 

25   report it early and to reduce the harm, and that 


                                                               4475

 1   is exactly what this bill has done.  

 2                This bill has passed in 36 other 

 3   states.  It is actually right now on the 

 4   Governor's desk in New Jersey.  So I hope that 

 5   New York can be the 37th state that passes Erin's 

 6   Law, and I am a proud aye vote, Mr. President.  

 7                Thank you very much.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

 9   Biaggi to be recorded in the affirmative.

10                Senator Savino to explain her vote.

11                SENATOR SAVINO:   Thank you, 

12   Mr. President.

13                I want to thank Senator Biaggi for 

14   taking up this bill.  As she pointed out, it has 

15   been passed in this body now seven times; this 

16   will be eighth time I will be voting on this 

17   bill.  And those of you who have been here on 

18   this journey, you know that it was carried by her 

19   predecessor Senator Klein.  

20                We met Erin Merryn about nine years 

21   ago, and she was a very courageous young woman 

22   who told her story about what happened to her.  

23   And along the way, as this bill was moved through 

24   the Senate now for the eighth time, it has failed 

25   to move once in the New York State Assembly.  


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 1                And that very same courageous young 

 2   woman has gone around the country -- and you just 

 3   heard it said, 36 states have now adopted a 

 4   commonsense curriculum in their school system to 

 5   alert teachers and young people, children, about 

 6   the dangers of sexual assault and what is 

 7   something that they should be aware of.

 8                So I am really hopeful that this 

 9   time is the charm and that the sharing of 

10   personal experiences will be the impetus that 

11   gets the Assembly to finally pass this bill.  

12   Using the argument that it's an unfunded mandate 

13   or that it's too expensive is just an outdated 

14   argument we can no longer listen to.

15                Erin Merryn's Law should be the law 

16   in all 50 states.  She's moved it in 36 other 

17   states.  We need to become the 37th state.

18                I proudly vote again in favor of 

19   Erin Merryn's Law.  Thank you, Mr. President.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

21   Savino to be recorded in the affirmative.

22                Senator Serino to explain her vote.

23                SENATOR SERINO:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.  

25                I want to thank the sponsor for 


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 1   carrying this very important bill.  

 2                I've always said we need to do all 

 3   we can to actually prevent child sex abuse, and 

 4   providing thorough, effective training is 

 5   critically important.  But I think we can and 

 6   must do more to put an end to child sex abuse.  

 7                I carry a bill, S1257, that would 

 8   close a loophole in our law that leaves far too 

 9   many children vulnerable to abuse.  Under current 

10   law, mandated reporters only need to report cases 

11   of abuse that happened at the hands of family 

12   members.  And I'm going to say that again.  

13   Mandated reporters only need to report cases of 

14   sexual abuse at the hands of family members.

15                This is an unfortunate truth many 

16   parents are unaware of.  My bill would close this 

17   loophole and require anyone working with 

18   children, whether it's voluntary or paid, to 

19   report suspected cases of abuse directly to the 

20   police.

21                While this bill will go a long way 

22   in improving training and reporting, if we don't 

23   close this loophole, the state is leaving far too 

24   many vulnerable.

25                In my district I had two young boys 


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 1   that were abused by an adult.  They reported it 

 2   to someone.  And because it was not a family 

 3   situation, it never got reported to the 

 4   organization.  So in fact last year they came up 

 5   here and they told their story to our members, 

 6   and we passed the bill unanimously.  So I'm 

 7   urging you to pass it again now.  

 8                And thank you, Mr. President.  I 

 9   vote aye.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

11   Serino to be recorded in the affirmative.

12                Senator Mayer to explain her vote.

13                SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

14   Mr. President.  

15                And first I want to commend my 

16   colleagues, especially Senator Biaggi for her 

17   personal bravery in telling her story; for all my 

18   colleagues who have voted for this bill before, 

19   and especially, as others have said, for Erin 

20   Merryn, who through her personal bravery and 

21   taking a story of challenge and making it one of 

22   passion has managed to convince legislatures 

23   throughout this country to adopt this very 

24   important piece of legislation.

25                You know, I know, having served in 


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 1   the Assembly, that there are many legislators who 

 2   are reluctant to tell the State Education 

 3   Department and the Regents how to carry out 

 4   curriculum in schools.  But frankly there comes a 

 5   time, and this is one of those issues, when we 

 6   simply need to do our job and insist that all 

 7   students -- as this bill does -- between 

 8   kindergarten and eighth grade shall receive 

 9   instruction designed to prevent child sexual 

10   exploitation and child sexual abuse.

11                We cannot sit on the sidelines and 

12   wait for our friends across the way to adopt the 

13   necessary curriculum.  It is our job -- in fact, 

14   it is our responsibility -- to insist that every 

15   child have this education, which will be a 

16   meaningful opportunity for them to have power 

17   over their lives.

18                So I'm proud of my colleagues.  I 

19   thank them for their leadership and their 

20   personal courage.  I'll be voting in the 

21   affirmative.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

23   Mayer to be recorded in the affirmative.

24                Announce the results.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 2   bill is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   1138, Senate Print 4294, by Senator May, an act 

 5   to amend Chapter 264 of the Laws of 2009.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 7   the last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9   act shall take effect immediately.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

11   the roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

14   Announce the results.

15                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16   Calendar Number 1138, those Senators voting in 

17   the negative are Senators Antonacci and Lanza.

18                Ayes, 59.  Nays, 2.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

20   bill is passed.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   1140, Senate Print 4479, by Senator Comrie, an 

23   act to amend the New York State Urban Development 

24   Corporation Act.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 


                                                               4481

 1   the last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 5   the roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 8   Announce the results.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

11   bill is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1141, Senate Print 4699, by Senator Ramos, an act 

14   in relation to requiring the Commissioner of 

15   Health to conduct a study relating to the number 

16   of emergency room beds.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

18   the last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20   act shall take effect immediately.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

22   the roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

25   Ramos to explain her vote.


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 1                SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 

 2   Mr. President.  

 3                I rise to explain my vote, but more 

 4   so the importance of this bill, especially for 

 5   communities like mine.  

 6                My Senate district doesn't have a 

 7   hospital in it, and so with entire neighborhoods 

 8   that are deprived of the access to healthcare 

 9   that we should all have, making sure that there's 

10   a study by the Department of Health that ensures 

11   that people, all people have doctors and 

12   emergency rooms near their homes, in their 

13   vicinity, is quite, quite critical.  

14                Unfortunately, in the East Elmhurst 

15   neighborhood of my district in particular, we 

16   have lost neighbors in ambulances due to traffic 

17   and due to just how far away they are from the 

18   closest hospitals to our district.

19                So I'm looking forward to seeing 

20   this report and seeing how we can ensure that 

21   there's guaranteed healthcare and that there's 

22   healthcare close to home for every New Yorker.

23                Thank you.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

25   Ramos to be recorded in the affirmative.


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 1                Announce the results.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3   Calendar Number 1141, those Senators voting in 

 4   the negative are Senators Amedore, Antonacci, 

 5   Flanagan, Griffo, Helming, Jordan, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 6   Ranzenhofer, Robach and Serino.

 7                Ayes, 50.  Nays, 11.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

 9   bill is passed.

10                There is a substitution at the desk.  

11                The Secretary will read.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Senator Harckham 

13   moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

14   Insurance, Assembly Bill Number 2904 and 

15   substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

16   Number 4808, Third Reading Calendar 1142.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

18   substitution is so ordered.

19                The Secretary will read.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   1142, Assembly Print Number 2904, by 

22   Assemblymember Quart, an act to amend the 

23   Insurance Law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

25   the last section.


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 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 2   act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 3   shall have become a law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 5   the roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 8   Announce the results.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

11   bill is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   1146, Senate Print 5071, by Senator Skoufis, an 

14   act to amend the Education Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

16   the last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

20   the roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

23   Announce the results.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 


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 1   bill is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   1147, Senate Print 5097, by Senator Gaughran, an 

 4   act granting retroactive membership with Tier II 

 5   status in the New York State Teachers' Retirement 

 6   System to Lori Cohen.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

 8   the last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

12   the roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

15   Announce the results.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

18   bill is passed.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20   1148, Senate Print 5193A, by Senator O'Mara, an 

21   act to amend Chapter 210 of the Laws of 2009.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Read 

23   the last section.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25   act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               4486

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Call 

 2   the roll.

 3                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:    

 5   Announce the results.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7   Calendar Number 1148, those Senators voting in 

 8   the negative are Senators Antonacci and Lanza.

 9                Ayes, 59.  Nays, 2.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   The 

11   bill is passed.

12                Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

13   reading of the supplemental calendar.

14                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.

16                Can you please recognize Senator 

17   Gallivan for an introduction.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

19   Gallivan for an introduction.

20                SENATOR GALLIVAN:   Thank you, 

21   Mr. President.

22                I'd like to start by thanking 

23   Senator Addabbo for his earlier resolution where 

24   we have Festa tonight and we've honored a number 

25   of Italian Americans, including our very own 


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 1   Senator Griffo.  

 2                But I'd like everybody to welcome 

 3   Senator Griffo's mother Betty Griffo, his wife 

 4   Lorraine, and cousin Nora.

 5                Thank you, Mr. President.  

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Please 

 7   rise.

 8                (Standing ovation.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   Senator 

10   Gianaris.

11                SENATOR GIANARIS:   A nice way to 

12   end today's proceedings, Mr. President.

13                Is there any further business at the 

14   desk?

15                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   There 

16   is no further business at the desk.

17                SENATOR GIANARIS:   In that case, I 

18   move to adjourn until tomorrow, Tuesday, 

19   June 4th, at 1:00 p.m.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT BENJAMIN:   On 

21   motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

22   Tuesday, June 4th, at 1:00 p.m. 

23                (Whereupon, at 4:21 p.m., the Senate 

24   adjourned.)

25