Regular Session - February 8, 2022

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                  February 8, 2022

11                      3:23 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR SHELLEY B. MAYER, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The Senate 

 3    will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Reading of 

14    the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

16    February 7, 2022, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Sunday, February 6, 

18    2022, was read and approved.  On motion, Senate 

19    adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 The Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Rivera 


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 1    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Health, 

 2    Assembly Bill Number 299B and substitute it for 

 3    the identical Senate Bill 1578B, Third Reading 

 4    Calendar 113.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   So 

 6    ordered.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Kaplan 

 8    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 9    Assembly Bill Number 8764 and substitute it for 

10    the identical Senate Bill 7842, Third Reading 

11    Calendar 294.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   So 

13    ordered.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Kennedy 

15    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

16    Assembly Bill Number 8770 and substitute it for 

17    the identical Senate Bill 7887, Third Reading 

18    Calendar 301.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   So 

20    ordered.

21                 Messages from the Governor.

22                 Reports of standing committees.

23                 Reports of select committees.

24                 Communications and reports from 

25    state officers.


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 1                 Motions and resolutions.

 2                 Senator Gianaris.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

 4    on behalf of Senator Sanders, on page 11 I offer 

 5    the following amendments to Calendar Number 112, 

 6    Senate Print 1374, and ask that said bill retain 

 7    its place on Third Reading Calendar.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 9    amendments have been received, and the bill will 

10    retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

11                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can we now adopt 

12    the Resolution Calendar, with the exception of 

13    Resolution 1788.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   All those 

15    in favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar, 

16    with the exception of Resolution 1788, please 

17    signify by saying aye.

18                 (Response of "Aye.")

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

20    nay.

21                 (No response.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

23    Resolution Calendar is adopted.

24                 Senator Gianaris.

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Okay, at this 


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 1    time -- we'll return to motions and resolutions 

 2    shortly, but for now can we please take up the 

 3    reading of the calendar.  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 5    Secretary will read.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    113, Assembly Print Number 299B, by 

 8    Assemblymember Gottfried, an act to amend the 

 9    Social Services Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

14    shall have become a law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

19    Mannion to explain his vote.

20                 SENATOR MANNION:   Thank you, 

21    Madam President.

22                 I'd like to thank Senator Gustavo 

23    Rivera for bringing this bill to the floor.  And 

24    it relates to a therapy that is very important to 

25    me and my family, and it relates to Medicaid 


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 1    coverage.

 2                 So if someone has diabetes and they 

 3    need testing or an insulin pump, that's going to 

 4    be covered.  If someone has glaucoma and they 

 5    need surgery or eyedrops, that would be covered.  

 6    But when it comes to other certain let's say 

 7    conditions, like ADHD, autism, traumatic brain 

 8    injury or disruptive behaviors, these things, 

 9    certain therapies such as applied behavioral 

10    analysis may not be covered.

11                 We keep saying that mental health 

12    and behavioral health is health.  Then we should 

13    be true to it, and we should make sure there's 

14    not disparity in the coverage.

15                 Applied behavioral analysis is often 

16    used with children with autism.  And it is not 

17    for every child, but with some children it's 

18    highly effective.  And what happens and what it 

19    shows is that children who receive this therapy, 

20    it shows that they're capable of learning.  It 

21    helps them complete simple and complex tasks.  It 

22    helps reinforce positive behaviors, and often 

23    that reinforcement is by the parents at home.  

24                 I'm trained in applied behavioral 

25    analysis using discrete trials and appropriate 


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 1    reinforcements.  Being trained in ABA made me a 

 2    better parent to all of my children, and I got to 

 3    see the positive benefits of ABA therapy as a 

 4    parent, a teacher, and a Senator.

 5                 Covering this therapy undoubtedly 

 6    saves the state and the federal government money 

 7    in the long run, and that's why it's so important 

 8    that this behavior is covered by Medicaid.

 9                 I wish to reference the New York 

10    State Department of Health's Reference Guide for 

11    Children with Autism.  There's a number of 

12    therapies that are listed in that reference 

13    guide.  And many of them, as a recommendation, 

14    state that it cannot be recommended because of no 

15    adequate evidence to support the therapy.  

16                 But when it comes to applied 

17    behavioral analysis, what the reference guide 

18    says is that it is recommended that principles of 

19    applied behavioral analysis and behavior 

20    intervention strategies be included as important 

21    elements in any intervention program for young 

22    children with autism.  

23                 Therefore, I stand here in support 

24    of this bill that this therapy should be covered.  

25    It's essential to the children who need it and 


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 1    the families who have those children, and it 

 2    saves the state and the federal government money 

 3    in the long run.

 4                 Thank you, Madam President.  I 

 5    proudly support this legislation.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 7    Mannion to be recorded in the affirmative.

 8                 Announce the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    158, Assembly Print Number 8739, by 

14    Assemblymember Hevesi, an act to amend the 

15    Family Court Act.

16                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is laid aside.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    234, Senate Print 660, by Senator May, an act to 

21    amend the Highway Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25    act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 


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 1    shall have become a law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar Number 234, those Senators voting in the 

 9    negative are Senators Lanza and Ortt.  

10                 Ayes, 61.  Nays, 2.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    243, Senate Print 334A, by Senator Myrie, an act 

15    to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    251, Senate Print 5304A, by Senator 

 5    Reichlin-Melnick, an act to amend the 

 6    State Finance Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar Number 251, those Senators voting in the 

18    negative are Senators Ortt and Palumbo.

19                 Ayes, 61.  Nays, 2.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    294, Assembly Print Number 8764, by 

24    Assemblymember Rosenthal, an act to amend a 

25    chapter of the Laws of 2021.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

 5    same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2021.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    301, Assembly Print Number 8770, by 

16    Assemblymember Clark, an act to amend the 

17    Executive Law and the Public Authorities Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 


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 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    309, Senate Print 4207, by Senator Addabbo, an 

 7    act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law and the 

 8    Racing, Pari-Mutuel Wagering and Breeding Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

12    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

13    shall have become a law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    315, Senate Print 7852, by Senator Addabbo, an 

24    act to amend the Racing, Pari-Mutuel Wagering and 

25    Breeding Law.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    319, Senate Print 720, by Senator Hoylman, an act 

15    to amend the Estates, Powers and Trusts Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    325, Senate Print 235A, by Senator Mayer, an act 

 5    to amend the General Municipal Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    329, Senate Print 4610, by Senator Comrie, an act 

21    to amend the Public Authorities Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    368, Senate Print 1477A, by Senator Krueger, an 

11    act to amend the Penal Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect on the first of November.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar Number 368, voting in the negative:  

23    Senator Salazar.

24                 Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 


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 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    399, Senate Print 1137, by Senator Liu, an act to 

 4    amend the Education Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    400, Senate Print 1407A, by Senator Parker, an 

19    act to amend the Education Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

23    act shall take effect December 1, 2022.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


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 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

 8    reading of today's calendar.

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Can we now take 

10    up the controversial calendar, please.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

12    Secretary will ring the bell.

13                 The Secretary will read.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    158, Assembly Print Number 8739, by 

16    Assemblymember Hevesi, an act to amend the 

17    Family Court Act.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

19    Lanza.  

20                 SENATOR LANZA:   Madam President, I 

21    believe there is an amendment at the desk.  I 

22    waive the reading of that amendment and ask that 

23    you recognize Senator Helming to be heard.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

25    Senator Lanza.


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 1                 Upon review of the amendment, in 

 2    accordance with Rule 6, Section 4B, I rule it 

 3    nongermane and out of order at this time.

 4                 SENATOR LANZA:   Accordingly, 

 5    Madam President, I appeal the ruling of the chair 

 6    and ask that Senator Helming be recognized.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The appeal 

 8    has been made and recognized, and Senator Helming 

 9    may be heard.

10                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

11    Madam President.  

12                 We appeal the ruling of the chair 

13    because the proposed amendment is clearly germane 

14    to Senate Bill 7789 because it, like the bill at 

15    hand, Senate Bill 7789, makes changes to the 

16    Raise the Age legislation.

17                 Currently the law allows a case to 

18    stay in criminal court when a minor displays a 

19    firearm in furtherance of a violent felony.  This 

20    amendment that's before you would close a 

21    loophole that currently exists that allows minors 

22    charged with felony possession of a weapon to 

23    have their case handled as juvenile delinquents 

24    in Family Court.

25                 More specifically, Raise the Age 


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 1    passed with bipartisan support in 2017.  This was 

 2    an important and transformative piece of 

 3    legislation.  It ensured that only the most 

 4    dangerous minors who commit violent crimes would 

 5    be prosecuted in criminal court.  I think we can 

 6    probably all agree this law has led to more just 

 7    and appropriate outcomes for nonviolent 16- and 

 8    17-year-olds who get arrested.  

 9                 But now that we've had this system 

10    in place for four years, we have the ability to 

11    see where there are opportunities to make 

12    improvements to help ensure the safety of all 

13    New Yorkers.

14                 Under the current system, a 16- or 

15    17-year-old arrested for a violent felony that 

16    involves the possession of a firearm will only 

17    remain in youth part of criminal court if the 

18    youth displays the firearm, causes substantial 

19    physical injury, or if there are extraordinary 

20    circumstances justifying criminal prosecution.  

21    Otherwise the case is removed to Family Court and 

22    handled as a juvenile delinquency case.

23                 The extraordinary circumstances 

24    requirement is incredibly difficult to meet.  For 

25    instance, minors arrested for the Class C violent 


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 1    felony of criminal possession of a weapon in the 

 2    second degree because they are illegally 

 3    possessing a loaded firearm cannot meet that 

 4    threshold.  This means those cases will be 

 5    handled in Family Court without any chance of 

 6    criminal consequences.  This is a loophole that 

 7    jeopardizes public safety, and it's a 

 8    loophole that we need to close.

 9                 With growing crime rates, 

10    particularly among violent and gun-related 

11    crimes, it makes sense to reform Raise the Age 

12    legislation by amending the current laws to allow 

13    a case to stay in youth part where the minor is 

14    accused of possessing a firearm.  This is a 

15    tremendous improvement over the current law, 

16    which requires that the minor actually display a 

17    firearm.

18                 Now, the Majority members of this 

19    chamber seem to refuse to acknowledge that the 

20    changes to the criminal justice programs passed 

21    during the last couple of years -- those 

22    programs, we know them well.  Cashless bail, 

23    limiting judicial discretion, less is more parole 

24    changes, and the HALT Act have created an 

25    environment where criminals are emboldened, and 


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 1    they're empowered, and New Yorkers across the 

 2    state feel less safe.  Members of our Republican 

 3    Minority Conference are proposing real reforms 

 4    like this amendment that's before this body right 

 5    now.

 6                 We're also willing to support and 

 7    propose tweaks to the legislation that the Senate 

 8    Democrats were instrumental in passing if it will 

 9    reduce violent crime and keep New Yorkers safe.

10                 It's worth noting, Madam President, 

11    that this amendment that is before this chamber 

12    right now has been proposed by law enforcement 

13    officials as well as New York City Mayor Eric 

14    Adams.  

15                 For these reasons, Madam President, 

16    I strongly urge you to reconsider your ruling.  

17    And I encourage all of my colleagues in this 

18    chamber to vote in favor of this amendment.

19                 Thank you.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

21    Senator.

22                 I want to remind the house that the 

23    vote is on the procedures of the house and the 

24    ruling of the chair.  

25                 Those in favor of overruling the 


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 1    chair, signify by saying aye.

 2                 SENATOR LANZA:   Request a show of 

 3    hands.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

 5    we've agreed to waive the showing of hands and 

 6    record each member of the Minority in the 

 7    affirmative.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Without 

 9    objection, so ordered.

10                 Announce the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 20.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The ruling 

13    of the chair stands, and the bill-in-chief is 

14    before the house.

15                 Senator Palumbo, why do you rise?

16                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  Will the sponsor yield for a 

18    few questions, please.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator, 

20    will you answer a few questions, please?

21                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Most certainly.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

23    Senator yields.

24                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you.  

25                 Chairman, how are you?


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 1                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Very well.

 2                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Could you just 

 3    tell us generally why these technical amendments 

 4    were needed on the bill that -- the bill in 

 5    chief?  

 6                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Certainly.  

 7                 So through you, Madam President, the 

 8    technical changes were made to align themselves 

 9    with a number of other changes made to -- with 

10    other legislative bills, and to essentially make 

11    technical cleanup and changes, again, that 

12    comport themselves with other pieces of 

13    legislation that were passed in this past 

14    legislative session.

15                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Will the sponsor 

16    yield?

17                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Absolutely.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

19    sponsor yields.

20                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

21    Senator.

22                 So in that regard, regarding the 

23    overall Raise the Age program, my understanding 

24    was there was about $800 million, when this was 

25    implemented in 2018, for the program to create 


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 1    the services that would be available for the 

 2    eligible offenders, and only about 270 million of 

 3    that has been spent so far.

 4                 Are you aware of those numbers?  

 5                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Through you, 

 6    Madam President, I am not certain about the 

 7    numbers.  

 8                 I will say, to the comments that 

 9    Senator Helming made, the intention of the 

10    original Raise the Age legislation was, as she 

11    indicated, to make sure that younger individuals 

12    were treated differently based upon the offenses 

13    that they committed.

14                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Will the sponsor 

15    yield.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

17    continue to yield?  

18                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Absolutely.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

20    Senator yields.

21                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

22    Senator.  

23                 And in that regard, regarding some 

24    numbers and the effectiveness of Raise the Age -- 

25    the program bill itself, the New York City 


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 1    Criminal Justice Agency provided some numbers 

 2    just for New York City.  That the reoffending 

 3    rates for particular crimes and types of crimes 

 4    from before the Raise the Age was implemented to 

 5    after, one year after, the re-offense rate was up 

 6    37 percent for felony arrests of individuals that 

 7    fit in this class, and violent felony arrests 

 8    were up 53 percent.

 9                 So are you aware of those numbers, 

10    sir?  

11                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Through you, 

12    Madam President, I would just -- as far as those 

13    numbers go, we can get to that in a second.  

14                 But I want to remind the Senator 

15    that the legislation, the underlying legislation, 

16    raised the lower age.  It was not the Raise the 

17    Age legislation.  The underlying legislation 

18    raised the lower age from 7 to 12 years old, as 

19    opposed to the legislation that was passed in 

20    2017.

21                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Does the sponsor 

22    yield?

23                 SENATOR BAILEY:   The sponsor 

24    yields.  Sorry.  Through you, Madam President, 

25    yes, I yield.


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 1                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   So I thought that 

 2    this amendment also applied to -- 7171 was the 

 3    Senate bill that also applied or made some 

 4    changes with respect to adjournments in 

 5    contemplation of dismissal.  Is that accurate?

 6                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Through you, 

 7    Madam President, the technical changes on this 

 8    chapter amendment do not make any such changes.

 9                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Would the sponsor 

10    yield for just one more question, please.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator, 

12    will you yield?

13                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Most certainly.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

15    Senator yields.

16                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Do you know, 

17    Senator, if there were any increases in housing 

18    for secure facilities to ultimately house, since 

19    the implementation of either this or the other 

20    Raise the Age legislation, that -- if they were 

21    expanded for the purposes of providing services 

22    for the eligible individuals?

23                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Through you, 

24    Madam President.  The effective date of the 

25    underlying bill has yet to come, so we -- so such 


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 1    information has not yet been received.

 2                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

 3    Senator.

 4                 On the bill, please.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   On the 

 6    bill.

 7                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

 8    Madam President.  

 9                 And these were obviously some 

10    amendments that were technical.  And these are 

11    made from time to time, of course, when we review 

12    previous legislation.  

13                 In light of the numbers and the lack 

14    of success that we've seen in the Raise the Age 

15    legislation, we should be considering making much 

16    more significant changes to the Raise the Age 

17    statute and to all those programs.

18                 And those numbers, as I indicated -- 

19    there was a recent story that reviewed not only 

20    that New York City report from the Criminal 

21    Justice Agency, but it also reviewed and spoke 

22    with other district attorneys throughout the 

23    state.

24                 In Albany County -- many probation  

25    departments, including Albany, they don't track 


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 1    rearrests of juvenile offenders or adolescent 

 2    offenders.  So those numbers are even higher.  So 

 3    the programs that were supposed to have been 

 4    implemented for these individuals to get the 

 5    services that were the intent of this legislation 

 6    to reintegrate and rehabilitate these young 

 7    juvenile offenders, it's not working.  

 8                 In fact, 270 million of 800 million, 

 9    in a recent report from a few weeks ago, has only 

10    been spent.

11                 So we need to get those programs 

12    under -- obviously we've had COVID, we've had 

13    some issues that are quite significant.

14                 However, this program is steaming 

15    full steam ahead, and we have a higher incidence 

16    of gun crimes, we have a higher incidence of all 

17    crimes, and we have a 53 percent increase in 

18    rearrests.  That's an increase.  Not saying that 

19    they weren't getting arrested and rearrested 

20    prior to the 2018 Raise the Age legislation.  

21    It's up.  In just one year, those statistics from 

22    2019 have that many more of these individuals 

23    reoffending.  

24                 So the program is broken.  And many 

25    of that, or a lot of that is a result of the fact 


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 1    that we have not funded it.

 2                 So we need to look alive here.  We 

 3    need to do this and make sure that we get those 

 4    programs in place, we provide the services for 

 5    these individuals so they don't continue to 

 6    terrorize our communities.  

 7                 And for those purposes, 

 8    Madam President, I'll be voting in the negative.

 9                 Thank you.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

11    Senator Palumbo.

12                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

13    to be heard?

14                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

15    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

16                 Read the last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 13.  This 

18    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

19    same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2021.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


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 1    Calendar Number 158, those Senators voting in the 

 2    negative are Senators Akshar, Borrello, Boyle, 

 3    Brooks, Gallivan, Gaughran, Griffo, Helming, 

 4    Jordan, Lanza, Martucci, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 5    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and 

 6    Weik.

 7                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 21.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

11    reading of the controversial calendar.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

13    let's return to motions and resolutions and now 

14    take up Resolution 1788, by Senator Gounardes, 

15    read its title only, and recognize Senator 

16    Gounardes.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Motions 

18    and resolutions.  

19                 The Secretary will read.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

21    1788, by Senator Gounardes, memorializing 

22    Governor Kathy Hochul to proclaim February 10, 

23    2022, as Students with Disabilities Advocacy Day 

24    in the State of New York.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 


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 1    Gounardes on the resolution.  

 2                 SENATOR GOUNARDES:   Thank you, 

 3    Madam President.

 4                 I rise today in support of this 

 5    resolution to declare February 10th as Students 

 6    with Disabilities Advocacy Day.

 7                 We do this every year because we 

 8    know how important it is to set aside a date to 

 9    really focus on students who need that extra 

10    level of support and resources so that they can 

11    continue to thrive academically.

12                 We know how impactful this pandemic 

13    has been to all students everywhere.  Every 

14    single student should be taught to the best of 

15    their ability, with no shortage of services or 

16    resources.  But we know that particularly 

17    students who have disabilities, especially on our 

18    college campuses, have been disproportionately 

19    affected and impacted by the effects of this 

20    pandemic -- the constant shift back and forth 

21    between in-person and virtual learning, and not 

22    having access to their on-campus resources.

23                 We need to be removing the barriers 

24    that exist that prevent reasonable accommodations 

25    and support services that promote access and 


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 1    success for students with disabilities in higher 

 2    education.

 3                 And the population that we're 

 4    talking about servicing here is actually quite 

 5    large.  Nearly 80,000 students, college-age 

 6    students in the State of New York attend New York 

 7    State degree-granting colleges and universities 

 8    and have some form of disability.  SUNY alone 

 9    services about 40 percent of that population.

10                 So we know that this community needs 

11    dedicated resources and support services to allow 

12    them to thrive academically.  We declare this day 

13    every year because it's a reminder to ourselves 

14    just how important it is that we focus on these 

15    students to give them every single tool available 

16    to them.  

17                 And I'm incredibly hopeful that as 

18    we continue the work of this legislative session 

19    we can match our rhetoric today with this 

20    resolution with the resources, with the 

21    legislation, and with the funding necessary to be 

22    able to be put them in a place where they can 

23    thrive.

24                 Thank you very much.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 


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 1    Senator Gounardes.

 2                 Senator Martucci on the resolution.

 3                 SENATOR MARTUCCI:   Thank you, 

 4    Madam President.  

 5                 I'm proud to rise today as the 

 6    ranking member of the Disabilities Committee and 

 7    want to thank Senator Gounardes for bringing this 

 8    important resolution to the floor to declare 

 9    February 10th as Students with Disabilities 

10    Advocacy Day.

11                 For many years -- decades, in 

12    fact -- students with disabilities and their 

13    needs were not at the forefront of public policy 

14    or at the forefront of education.  In fact, they 

15    were marginalized and oftentimes completely 

16    ignored.  

17                 Today we honor those pioneering 

18    parents, those brave young people who changed all 

19    of that.  It's true today that New York has a 

20    strong system of protections and programs for 

21    kids with special needs.  It's true that we now 

22    have a collaborative process, with committees for 

23    special education and a vibrant early 

24    intervention system that I would like to see 

25    continue to grow in this state.  


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 1                 We've made a lot of progress.  But 

 2    there's more work to do.  And we can't ignore 

 3    those responsibilities in this budget, and I'm 

 4    confident that we won't.

 5                 It was and it is these parents and 

 6    students who come here to this chamber, who come 

 7    here to this building, who visit all of us in our 

 8    offices and who call us -- not only me and my 

 9    colleagues but our former colleagues who, through 

10    their blood and sweat and tears, have made this 

11    happen.  

12                 So it's more than just appropriate 

13    that we pause and recognize these pioneers today; 

14    it's necessary that we do that, in fact.  Our 

15    state is a better and stronger place because of 

16    these advocates, and I'm proud that we're 

17    honoring each and every one of them here today.

18                 Madam President, I proudly support 

19    this resolution and urge my colleagues to do the 

20    same.  Thank you.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

22    question is on the resolution.  All in favor 

23    signify by saying aye.

24                 (Response of "Aye.")

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed?  


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 1                 (No response.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 3    resolution is adopted.

 4                 Senator Gianaris.

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

 6    at this time I believe there's a report of the 

 7    Finance Committee at the desk.  Let's take that 

 8    up.

 9                 Before we do that, Madam President, 

10    Senator Gounardes would like to open up that 

11    resolution we just passed to cosponsorship.  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

13    resolution is open for cosponsorship.  Should you 

14    choose not to be a cosponsor of the resolution, 

15    please notify the desk.

16                 Senator Gianaris.

17                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   And now let's 

18    take up the report of the Finance Committee.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

20    Secretary will read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Krueger, 

22    from the Committee on Finance, reports the 

23    following nominations.  

24                 As Commissioner of the Division of 

25    Criminal Justice Services:  Rossana Rosado.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 2    Gianaris.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

 4    I move the nomination of Rossana Rosado to the 

 5    position of Commissioner of the Division of 

 6    Criminal Justice Services.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 8    question is on the nomination.

 9                 Call the roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to the 

14    nomination of Rossana Rosado as Commissioner of 

15    the Division of Criminal Justice Services, those 

16    Senators voting in the negative are 

17    Senators Borrello, Griffo, Jordan, Lanza, 

18    Martucci, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rath, 

19    Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

21    nominee is confirmed.

22                 The Secretary will continue to read.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   As Commissioner of 

24    the Office of General Services:  Jeanette Moy.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 


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 1    Gianaris.

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

 3    move the nomination of Jeanette Moy to the 

 4    position of Commissioner of the Office of General 

 5    Services.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 7    question is on the nomination.  

 8                 Call the roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

14    nominee is confirmed.

15                 The Secretary will continue to read.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   As Commissioner of 

17    the Division of Human Rights:  Maria Imperial.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

19    Gianaris.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

21    move the nomination of Maria Imperial to the 

22    position of Commissioner of the Division of 

23    Human Rights.  

24                 Please recognize any Senator wishing 

25    to speak.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 2    Mayer on the nomination.

 3                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

 4    Mr. President.  

 5                 I rise to speak in favor of the 

 6    nomination of Maria Imperial to be commissioner 

 7    of the Division of Human Rights.  

 8                 Ms. Imperial, who is a constituent 

 9    of mine -- but, more important, a true leader in 

10    our community for the last long period of time, 

11    as the chief executive officer of the YWCA of 

12    White Plains and Central Westchester since 

13    2007 -- has been a courageous leader who has led 

14    by consensus and by insight into the issues and 

15    challenges that affect women, children and the 

16    issues of racism.

17                 Ms. Imperial, through tumultuous 

18    times in our community, has exerted her 

19    leadership, steady hand and commitment to 

20    justice.  And I am very confident that as the 

21    commissioner of the Division of Human Rights she 

22    will create -- recreate an agency that was 

23    intended to protect every New Yorker from any 

24    allegations or indications of unlawful behavior 

25    dealing with human rights and civil rights.


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 1                 This is an agency of incredible 

 2    importance, and we need it to be invigorated and 

 3    strengthened.  And I am very confident that under 

 4    Maria Imperial's leadership and her record -- a 

 5    distinguished record, including a graduate of 

 6    Harvard Law School, an MPA from the NYU Wagner 

 7    Graduate School of Public Service, and her 

 8    undergraduate degree from Harvard College -- she 

 9    has the credentials, the experience, the 

10    demeanor, the good judgment and the character to 

11    be an exceptional leader.  And I look forward to 

12    seeing her serve and serve with distinction.  

13                 I support her nomination, and I hope 

14    everyone will do the same.

15                 Thank you, Mr. President.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

17    Mayer to be recorded in the affirmative on the 

18    nomination.

19                 The question is on the nomination.  

20                 Call the roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to the 

25    nomination of Maria Imperial as commissioner of 


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 1    the Division of Human Rights, those Senators 

 2    voting in the negative are Senators Borrello, 

 3    Griffo, Martucci, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 4    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec, Tedisco and 

 5    Weik.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 7    nominee is confirmed.

 8                 Senator Gianaris.

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there any 

10    further business at the desk, Mr. President?  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

12    no further business at the desk.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

14    adjourn until tomorrow, Wednesday, February 9th, 

15    at 11:00 a.m.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   On 

17    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

18    Wednesday, February 9th, at 11:00 a.m. 

19                 (Whereupon, at 3:56 p.m., the Senate 

20    adjourned.)

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