Regular Session - April 5, 2022

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    April 5, 2022

11                      3:17 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JAMAAL T. BAILEY, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

14    reading of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

16    April 4, 2022, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Sunday, April 3, 

18    2022, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 Messages from the Governor.

25                 Reports of standing committees.


                                                               1909

 1                 Reports of select committees.

 2                 Communications and reports from 

 3    state officers.

 4                 Motions and resolutions.

 5                 Senator Gianaris.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

 7    move to adopt the Resolution Calendar.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   All those 

 9    in favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar 

10    please signify by saying aye.

11                 (Response of "Aye.")

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Opposed, 

13    nay.

14                 (No response.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

16    Resolution Calendar is adopted.

17                 Senator Gianaris.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   We're going to 

19    return to the Resolution Calendar a little bit 

20    later, but for now let's take up the calendar.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

22    Secretary will read.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 90, 

24    Senate Print 1138, by Senator Harckham, an act 

25    authorizing the commissioner of general services 


                                                               1910

 1    to convey real property in Westchester County to 

 2    the County of Westchester.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:  There is a 

 4    home-rule message at the desk.  

 5                 Read the last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    576, Senate Print 6499, by Senator Hoylman, an 

18    act to amend the Surrogate's Court Procedure Act.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 576, those Senators voting in the 

 5    negative are Senators Borrello, Griffo, Helming, 

 6    Oberacker, O'Mara, Serino and Tedisco.

 7                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 7.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    584, Senate Print 554, by Senator May, an act to 

12    amend the Elder Law and the Economic Development 

13    Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

17    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

18    shall have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

23    May to explain her vote.

24                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

25    Mr. President.


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 1                 I want to thank the leadership and 

 2    my colleagues for their support of this bill.  

 3                 Encore entrepreneurship is about 

 4    helping people in their fifties and older who 

 5    want to start their own businesses.  Often they 

 6    make this choice after encountering ageism in the 

 7    workplace.  Many have business ideas that address 

 8    the needs of our growing population of seniors.  

 9                 People in this age group bring a 

10    lifetime of experience and a strong work ethic to 

11    their entrepreneurial activities -- but they also 

12    may experience barriers when it comes to entering 

13    the competitive world of small business as a 

14    senior.

15                 Navigating rapid technological 

16    change, understanding the ins and outs of 

17    marketing in the digital age, or recruiting and 

18    managing staff as hiring practices and work 

19    expectations are in such flux -- these are all 

20    areas where seniors may need additional support 

21    to make their business ideas a success.  

22                 In the spirit of encouraging 

23    entrepreneurship, of helping New Yorkers remain 

24    productive later in life, of supporting good 

25    ideas for small business development, and of 


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 1    combating age discrimination, I proudly vote aye.

 2                 Thank you.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 4    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                 Announce the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    593, Senate Print 5938, by Senator Parker, an act 

11    to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar Number 593, those Senators voting in the 

23    negative are Senators O'Mara and Ortt.

24                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 2.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 


                                                               1914

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    629, Senate Print 252A, by Senator Thomas, an act 

 4    to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law and the 

 5    Public Officers Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

12    roll.  

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    647, Senate Print 8267, by Senator Gaughran, an 

21    act in relation to authorizing the assessor of 

22    the Town of Huntington, County of Suffolk, to 

23    accept from the Huntington Public Library an 

24    application for exemption from real property 

25    taxes.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar Number 647, voting in the negative:  

12    Senators Akshar and O'Mara.  

13                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 2.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    653, Senate Print 2903A, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

18    act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

23    shall have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

25    roll.


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 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 653, those Senators voting in the 

 6    negative are Senators Borrello, Griffo, Helming, 

 7    Jordan, Lanza, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rath and 

 8    Serino.  Also Senators Tedisco and Palumbo.

 9                 Ayes, 50.  Nays, 12.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    713, Senate Print 5237B, by Senator Gaughran, an 

14    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 

19    shall have become a law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    734, Senate Print 6172A, by Senator Hoylman, an 

 5    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar Number 734, voting in the negative:  

18    Senator Oberacker.

19                 Ayes, 61.  Nays, 1.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    735, Senate Print 6510, by Senator Mannion, an 

24    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 


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 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 8    Mannion to explain his vote.

 9                 SENATOR MANNION:   Thank you, 

10    Mr. President.  

11                 Big game hunting is a big part of 

12    the heritage of New York State.  It's an activity 

13    that connects generations of New Yorkers to each 

14    other and to the outdoors.  This legislation is 

15    about promoting economic activity.  It's about 

16    promoting conservation, and it's about promoting 

17    the safe enjoyment of the outdoors with your 

18    loved ones during the holiday season.

19                 It's also about respecting hunters, 

20    proper management of our wildlife resources, and 

21    empowering localities to make their own decisions 

22    regarding the value and safety of hosting holiday 

23    activities, including a holiday hunt, in their 

24    communities.

25                 The hunting organizations and the 


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 1    local governments are some of the most supportive 

 2    of this legislation.  The New York Bow Hunters 

 3    Association says, and I quote:  The white tailed 

 4    deer population is exhausted by this point in the 

 5    winter.  Continuing hunting pressure would be 

 6    detrimental to the deer population.

 7                 And in its support, the New York 

 8    Farm Bureau notes that New York State currently 

 9    has one of the longest deer seasons in the 

10    country and that it is important for counties to 

11    be able to promote their own winter economic 

12    growth.  

13                 Holiday hunts can force snowmobile 

14    trails to close and make hiking trails and the 

15    woods more dangerous as more people venture 

16    outdoors during this holiday time.  

17                 New York's natural resources must be 

18    protected so they can be enjoyed by the public in 

19    perpetuity.  This legislation is in that spirit 

20    and towards that goal.  

21                 And for those reasons, I vote in the 

22    affirmative.  Thank you, Mr. President.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

24    Mannion to be recorded in the affirmative.

25                 Announce the results.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2    Calendar 735, those Senators voting in the 

 3    negative are Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Griffo, 

 4    Helming, Lanza, Martucci, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

 5    Palumbo, Rath, Ritchie, Serino, Stec and Weik.  

 6    Also Senator Tedisco.

 7                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 15.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

11    reading of today's calendar.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's go back to 

13    resolutions, Mr. President, and take up 

14    previously adopted Resolution 2176, by 

15    Senator Ryan, read its title, and recognize 

16    Senator Ryan.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

18    Secretary will read.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

20    2176, by Senator Ryan, memorializing Governor 

21    Kathy Hochul to proclaim April 3-9, 2022, as 

22    Library Week in the State of New York.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

24    Ryan on the resolution.

25                 SENATOR RYAN:   Thank you, 


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 1    Mr. President.

 2                 You're not going to believe it, but 

 3    this week is the 64th Annual National Library 

 4    Week.  First celebrated in 1958, it's a national 

 5    observance celebrated by the American Library 

 6    Association and libraries in every county across 

 7    the state and across the country in April.  

 8                 It's a great opportunity to 

 9    highlight the value of our libraries and to 

10    celebrate the hard work of the librarians and 

11    librarian staffs who support our libraries across 

12    the state and the country.

13                 As a long-time supporter of our 

14    state libraries, I have seen firsthand how 

15    important libraries are to all New Yorkers.  

16    They've always been important tools for promoting 

17    literacy, and they still perform that function 

18    today -- but boy, have they taken on many more 

19    roles in our community since then.

20                 So the theme of this year's National 

21    Library Week is "Connecting with Your Library," 

22    and the operative word is "connecting."  For 

23    many years we thought about being connected with 

24    libraries through books, but there's many more 

25    connections now we add to our libraries -- 


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 1    education programming, bringing members of the 

 2    communities in, and of course in the 21st century 

 3    we connect to our libraries with computers, with 

 4    the internet, technological resources that help 

 5    people apply for jobs, learn the English 

 6    language, and so much more.

 7                 During the pandemic we discovered 

 8    how important this work is to New Yorkers.  In 

 9    providing internet access to the library, it 

10    really has made libraries a vital resource for 

11    many workers working remotely, learning remotely, 

12    taking medical appointments remotely.  Their 

13    ability to bridge the digital divide has been a 

14    crucial resource to underserved communities.  

15                 And as chair of the Libraries 

16    Committee, I'm honored to introduce this 

17    resolution recognizing April 3rd to April 9th as 

18    the 64th Annual Library Week in New York State, 

19    and I look forward to commemorating this week by 

20    recognizing the outstanding librarians throughout 

21    the state.

22                 Thank you, Mr. President.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

24    you, Senator Ryan.

25                 Senator Harckham on the resolution.


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 1                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you, 

 2    Mr. President.  

 3                 I would like to thank my colleague 

 4    Senator Ryan for providing this resolution.  

 5                 And I too would like to take a 

 6    moment to thank our librarians and all those who 

 7    work and volunteer in libraries for all they do.  

 8                 As Senator Ryan so aptly mentioned, 

 9    for so many years libraries were centers of 

10    literacy and to promote art and culture and 

11    reading.  And today they're so much more.  In my 

12    district they're places for after-school 

13    tutoring, they're places for people who do not 

14    have access to computers to learn computer 

15    skills, to be more employable, to access job 

16    boards that they may not have computers at home.  

17                 And of course for the broadband 

18    deserts that we talk about and we work so hard in 

19    this chamber.  I have both urban broadband 

20    deserts and I have rural broadband deserts in my 

21    district, and it's a great place for students and 

22    others to come in order to get their work done.  

23                 You know, we have had -- during 

24    power outages, our parking lots of our libraries 

25    are filled with folks trying to get broadband.  


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 1    After hours, students are in the parking lots 

 2    trying to get broadband.  Some of our libraries 

 3    have extended hours so students who don't have 

 4    broadband at home can get broadband access.

 5                 So libraries have become much more 

 6    important to the fabric not just of our 

 7    communities, where they will always be, but to 

 8    the fabric of our economy and our education 

 9    system.

10                 So I want to thank Senator Ryan for 

11    bringing this resolution.  I thank all 

12    librarians.  And I vote aye.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

14    you, Senator Harckham.  

15                 Senator Jackson on the resolution.

16                 SENATOR JACKSON:   Thank you, 

17    Mr. President.

18                 I rise this afternoon in order to 

19    support the resolution.  But I thank my colleague 

20    Senator Ryan for the resolution to proclaim 

21    April 3rd to April 9th as National Library Week 

22    in our state.

23                 National Library Week is a time to 

24    celebrate our nation's libraries and library 

25    workers' contributions, and promote library use 


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 1    and support across the country and our state.

 2                 After all, we've all dashed to the 

 3    library to borrow our favorite book.  We all have 

 4    had to visit a library to study.  And we've spent 

 5    endless hours reviewing for exams, borrowing 

 6    textbooks, and reading free journals in the 

 7    library.  

 8                 Do you remember all of that?  Well, 

 9    do you remember that feeling of getting a 

10    brand-new library card?  I do.  Of course that 

11    was many decades ago.

12                 (Laughter.)

13                 SENATOR JACKSON:   The libraries 

14    have such a special place in the hearts of all 

15    New Yorkers.  Libraries are a place where 

16    communities connect to books, to classes, things 

17    like broadband, computer programs, movies, 

18    video games, and a safe haven for many of the 

19    children after school.  And we know that.

20                 But most important, libraries 

21    connect us to one another.  A great example of 

22    this happened in Northern Manhattan, part of my 

23    district, Inwood, that I represent, before I was 

24    elected to office, when I joined a grassroots 

25    movement to save the Inwood Library in 2017.  


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 1    That library united folks from different 

 2    backgrounds with the sole purpose of protecting 

 3    our library -- a powerful experience indeed.

 4                 Today U.S. libraries face many, many 

 5    challenges besides funding, and yet they continue 

 6    finding innovative ways to meet the needs of our 

 7    communities.  Yet library staff in every state 

 8    face an unprecedented number of attempts to ban 

 9    books.  

10                 The American Library Association's 

11    Office of Intellectual Freedom tracked 

12    729 challenges to library, school and university 

13    materials and services in 2021, resulting in 

14    1,597 individual book challenges or removals.  

15    Most targeted books were about Black or 

16    LGBTQIA+ persons.  

17                 And because of this, we must support 

18    our libraries today more than ever, allowing all 

19    of us to read and understand each other better, 

20    to read to be able to embrace and celebrate 

21    diversity, to read and explore the possibility of 

22    a better world, one of inclusion.  

23                 Let's not forget that the first 

24    National Library Week was observed, as my 

25    colleague said, in 1958 because many were 


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 1    concerned that Americans were reading less.  The 

 2    theme was "Wake Up and Read," a message I believe 

 3    we all greatly appreciate today.

 4                 Lastly, to all the librarians who 

 5    continue to help our children, young adults and 

 6    seniors, on their behalf I thank you for 

 7    everything that you do.  And I am proud to stand 

 8    here today to support this resolution to proclaim 

 9    National Library Week in New York State.  

10                 And I vote aye, Mr. President.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

12    you, Senator Jackson.

13                 Senator Jordan on the resolution.

14                 SENATOR JORDAN:   Mr. President and 

15    my colleagues, I'm proud to speak on the 

16    resolution before us brought by my colleague and 

17    chair of our Senate Libraries Committee, Senator 

18    Ryan.

19                 As the ranking member of our Senate 

20    Libraries Committee, as one of the founders of 

21    our fantastic Clifton Park-Halfmoon Public 

22    Library, and as a director of the Clifton 

23    Park-Halfmoon Library Foundation -- and as a 

24    lifelong advocate of libraries, literacy and 

25    learning -- I'm happy to strongly support this 


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 1    resolution memorializing the Governor to proclaim 

 2    April 3rd through the 9th as Library Week here in 

 3    New York State, in conjunction with the 

 4    observance of National Library Week.

 5                 This week in particular marks a 

 6    terrific time to reflect on the vital role that 

 7    our excellent public libraries play, along with 

 8    our fantastic, dedicated librarians and library 

 9    workers.  This year marks the 64th anniversary of 

10    National Library Week, a celebration and 

11    recognition sponsored by the American Library 

12    Association and libraries nationwide.

13                 Libraries give us so much more and 

14    contribute to our special quality of life with so 

15    much more than just books.  They're beloved 

16    centers of creativity, places that inspire, 

17    lighting the spark of imagination and fanning the 

18    flame of curiosity, adventure, understanding and 

19    a sense of wonder for exploring our larger world 

20    and beyond.

21                 As the times have changed, so too 

22    have our tremendous public libraries, as they now 

23    do more than ever before.  Our public libraries 

24    help connect communities with technology and 

25    continue assisting countless families, students 


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 1    and individuals in closing the digital divide.  

 2                 Libraries also sponsor classes, 

 3    workshops, resume assistance, help job seekers, 

 4    hold creativity classes, provide family-friendly 

 5    entertainment and resources for small businesses, 

 6    and are the world-class centers for true, 

 7    credible research and so much more.

 8                 Most of all, our public libraries 

 9    are welcoming, essential community resources that 

10    help support and strengthen all New Yorkers.  

11                 I'll close with a quote about 

12    libraries by Sidney Sheldon that says it all:  

13    "Libraries store the energy that fuels the 

14    imagination.  They open up windows to the world 

15    and inspire us to explore and achieve and 

16    contribute to improving our quality of life."

17                 Many thanks to all of our excellent 

18    public libraries and to our still dedicated 

19    librarians.  Thank you for all you do.  

20                 I'm proud to support this 

21    resolution.  Thank you, Mr. President.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

23    you, Senator Jordan.

24                 Senator Borrello on the resolution.

25                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 


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 1    Mr. President.

 2                 I rise to also support Library Week.  

 3    I'd like to thank Senator Ryan for his 

 4    sponsorship of this resolution.  

 5                 You know, I think despite all that 

 6    we've said and how wonderful our libraries are, 

 7    we still have a challenge out there.  The 

 8    challenge is often people think of libraries as 

 9    just a place where books are.  But they are so 

10    much more.  And as everyone has so elquently -- 

11    elquently -- I can't even say the word -- 

12                 (Laughter.)

13                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   -- eloquently 

14    spoken about that, I want to focus on the fact 

15    that during the pandemic we really did realize 

16    how vital our libraries were.  We realized how 

17    essential our librarians were.  They were, too, 

18    essential workers.  

19                 During the pandemic when people 

20    couldn't get access to things like the internet, 

21    the libraries were there for them.  When they had 

22    trouble navigating things like how to fill out an 

23    unemployment insurance form, or fill out the 

24    endless paperwork to get some pandemic relief 

25    money for their business, our libraries were 


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 1    there to help them.  

 2                 This is an essential service that is 

 3    often overlooked because many times, as a veteran 

 4    of local government, library funding is one of 

 5    the first things on the chopping block when 

 6    things get tough.  And we need to make sure that 

 7    never happens, because they are essential.  

 8                 In rural communities like mine, 

 9    they're critically important.  They are true 

10    community centers where important things happen 

11    and people get -- people who are often very 

12    desperate for help get the help and guidance that 

13    they need.

14                 So, Mr. President, I proudly support 

15    this and vote aye.  Thank you.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

17    you, Senator Borrello.

18                 Senator Hinchey on the resolution.

19                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

20    Mr. President.  

21                 And I want to thank the sponsor, 

22    Senator Ryan, for bringing this resolution 

23    forward.

24                 Equal access to information is one 

25    of the great things that sets our country apart 


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 1    from so many others across the world.  And that 

 2    is exactly what our public libraries and our 

 3    libraries provide.  And yet they often do not get 

 4    the due or the attention or the recognition that 

 5    they're owed and that we should, especially in 

 6    upstate and rural communities like the ones that 

 7    I represent.  With more than five counties, we 

 8    have a lot of incredible libraries that are quite 

 9    literally the lifeline for so many people in our 

10    communities.  

11                 Of course they provide literacy 

12    options and books and incredible escapism to 

13    places that some people may never be able to 

14    travel themselves.  But they're also, as has been 

15    said today eloquently by my colleague Senator 

16    Harckham, they became such a lifeline for 

17    broadband during this pandemic.  In our rural 

18    areas where we have some deep, deep broadband 

19    deserts, people had to decide if they could go to 

20    work or go to school.  People had to sit outside 

21    these libraries and be able to actually do their 

22    work or learn, continue their education, or be 

23    able to look for that next job when they may have 

24    gotten laid off over the pandemic.

25                 These are services that are offered 


                                                               1933

 1    almost nowhere else except for the parking lots 

 2    of our libraries.  For instance, the library in 

 3    Cairo, a very rural town in Greene County, that 

 4    library has become a community hub.  They do food 

 5    drives, they do book drives.  They actually offer 

 6    community college courses at the library because 

 7    the community college is over the river.  They've 

 8    become a real epicenter of community work.  

 9                 And those in Tannersville, the 

10    library in Guilderland -- which just went through 

11    an incredible renovation -- has made it a point 

12    to make sure that they're welcoming new Americans 

13    and immigrants and anyone moving into the 

14    community that's new, to be a welcoming space for 

15    people and providing them access to things that 

16    they may not have had in the place where they 

17    came from.  

18                 Our libraries are so profoundly 

19    important.  And again, they do not get the 

20    recognition that they are often owed.  And so 

21    having this week is an incredibly special and 

22    important week to make sure that we are paying 

23    our respects to the volunteers and the library 

24    workers who do this really important work in 

25    communities across our state.


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 1                 So thank you, Senator Ryan, for 

 2    bringing this resolution forward, and I proudly 

 3    vote aye.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 5    you, Senator Hinchey.

 6                 Senator May on the resolution.

 7                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

 8    Mr. President.

 9                 I am very glad to speak about our 

10    great libraries in this state and to thank 

11    Senator Ryan for bringing this resolution 

12    forward.

13                 Free public libraries were invented 

14    in America about 200 years ago.  Over the last 

15    few decades, we have seen in this country a 

16    massive effort to privatize everything, from 

17    schools to parks to water systems.  Libraries 

18    face pressure too.  I, for one, will continue to 

19    fight against predatory library pricing for 

20    ebooks from major corporate publishers.  

21                 But in general, libraries have 

22    bucked the privatization trend and continue to 

23    serve every community in the most egalitarian way 

24    possible.  

25                 Local libraries and countywide 


                                                               1935

 1    library systems aren't just resources for books 

 2    and digital items.  As we've heard, they are 

 3    gathering places for community groups.  They 

 4    provide access to lawyers and tax professionals.  

 5    They host maker spaces, meeting groups and 

 6    children's story times.  Rural families 

 7    struggling to manage remote schooling over the 

 8    last two years have depended on libraries for 

 9    internet connection.  

10                 For people struggling with 

11    homelessness, libraries provide a place to use a 

12    bathroom or to sit in a comfortable chair for a 

13    few hours.  

14                 I'm proud that my library system 

15    just decided to abolish late fees.  They're 

16    forgoing $280,000 in fines to eliminate what is a 

17    real barrier to many children and people of very 

18    limited means, and to assure access to all 

19    members of the community.

20                 This is the library ideal:  Serving 

21    the principles that democracy depends on an 

22    educated populace and that books and information 

23    should be available to all.

24                 I vote aye.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 


                                                               1936

 1    you, Senator May.

 2                 Senator Brooks on the resolution.

 3                 SENATOR BROOKS:   Thank you, 

 4    Mr. President.

 5                 Thank you, Senator Ryan, for 

 6    introducing this resolution.

 7                 For me, libraries go way back -- 

 8    back not quite to the 1800s, and we didn't bring 

 9    our horse to the library -- 

10                 (Laughter.)

11                 SENATOR BROOKS:   -- but we date 

12    back to the time when, going to school, most of 

13    us didn't have an encyclopedia at home.  And 

14    after school, everybody ended up at the library 

15    pulling all the encyclopedias, doing the research 

16    that they had to do.  And you saw the library 

17    back then as a source to help you educate 

18    yourself.

19                 The role of the library has changed 

20    so much in the last few years.  In dealing with 

21    the various library directors -- and I meet with 

22    them every couple of months, and they're really 

23    enthusiastic about what they do.  But they also 

24    talk about the concerns they have:  How many 

25    people walk in with various problems because they 


                                                               1937

 1    don't trust any other level of government to get 

 2    the right information.  And on a cold day, people 

 3    who don't have any shelter show up at the 

 4    library.  Or a rainy day, they show up at the 

 5    library.

 6                 One of the things we did with the 

 7    county at one time, we made arrangements for some 

 8    of the social workers from the county to come to 

 9    the libraries on certain days to help people, 

10    because they saw the library as a center to get 

11    help.

12                 You look at the library -- I get a 

13    kick out of my library.  I know the local library 

14    director.  I generally give him a hard time.  But 

15    my granddaughter started going to the library for 

16    a book-reading program, and they didn't know who 

17    she was.  And the coloring books that we have, 

18    there were some of those at the library.  So she 

19    flips the page out that they were giving out to 

20    the kids, she looks at it and goes "Grandpa, the 

21    picture!"  And they all look.  

22                 But she built such a love for 

23    reading in the library.  And she got to the point 

24    that she was taking five and six books out and 

25    finishing them in a week's time because of what 


                                                               1938

 1    was instilled there.

 2                 So the libraries, for so many of us, 

 3    were that cornerstone, our thirst for learning 

 4    that carried through.

 5                 As has been mentioned here, the 

 6    libraries have changed their role.  In many of 

 7    the communities that I represent, computers at 

 8    home are something they don't have.  They go to 

 9    the library to use that after school.  In some 

10    communities they go to the library after school 

11    because that's a safe place.

12                 The folks that operate the libraries 

13    are very dedicated people who understand their 

14    expanding role -- serving our seniors, serving 

15    the children, serving people with disabilities, 

16    serving people that don't have.  They do a great 

17    job.  

18                 I think something that was mentioned 

19    here, the electronic books -- we've really got 

20    for monitor what's happening with those in terms 

21    of expense.  That's one of their number-one 

22    concerns.  

23                 And I think all of us hear from our 

24    local libraries that they need money to do work 

25    on their buildings.  They've gone a long, long 


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 1    time.  So we've got to dedicate that.

 2                 But at the end of the day, I think 

 3    the library is one of the best assets we have in 

 4    our communities.  The folks that work in those 

 5    libraries are dedicated and concerned about the 

 6    community.  And we bring so many programs through 

 7    the library to people in the community that 

 8    otherwise wouldn't have anything.

 9                 So I thank Senator Ryan for 

10    providing this resolution, and I thank everybody 

11    in this state associated with libraries for what 

12    they do for their communities.  

13                 Thank you, Mr. President.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

15    you, Senator Brooks.  

16                 Senator Boyle on the resolution.

17                 SENATOR BOYLE:   Thank you, 

18    Mr. President, on the resolution.  

19                 I'd like to thank the sponsor, 

20    Senator Ryan, our ranker Senator Jordan, for this 

21    resolution.

22                 With the advent of the digital age, 

23    I was a little concerned about what was going to 

24    happen to our libraries, and can gladly report 

25    that they're stronger and more vibrant than 


                                                               1940

 1    ever -- true, as we said, community centers, 

 2    activity centers.  

 3                 I spend a lot of time in libraries.  

 4    My office, we do about 55 programs a year.  And 

 5    the vast majority of them are held in our 

 6    libraries.  Blood drives, coat drives.  You name 

 7    it, we do it.  They're always there.  

 8                 And I'm amazed, when I go to these 

 9    libraries in the 4th Senate District, about 

10    something new that's always happening.  Walking 

11    by a room, what's going on there?  That's virtual 

12    reality.  What's going on there?  Karaoke.  A 

13    soundproofed room, but karaoke is going on in our 

14    libraries.  It's not just books, it's so many 

15    more active and community-based, family-based 

16    activities.  

17                 We have a brand-new library in the 

18    4th Senate District, Bayport-Blue Point.  Two 

19    community leaders, Ronny Devine and Councilman 

20    Neil Foley, were active in creating this 

21    beautiful new library.  So the future is wide 

22    open.  Cannot thank them enough.

23                 And just politically speaking, to my 

24    colleagues, when we were -- when the Republicans 

25    were in the majority, we put a lot, a lot of 


                                                               1941

 1    money in libraries.  We were champions for 

 2    libraries.  And to tell the new majority, put 

 3    your money in libraries.  Because you know when 

 4    you get a member item and you give it to a school 

 5    district, they're going to say:  Is that all?  

 6                 Libraries thank you for $5,000, 

 7    $10,000.  It's manna from heaven.  They need it, 

 8    they use it, and it's great for our communities.  

 9                 I vote in favor.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

11    you, Senator Boyle.

12                 Senator Cooney on the resolution.

13                 SENATOR COONEY:   Thank you, 

14    Mr. President.

15                 You and I are about the same age, so 

16    it's a little strange to be able to say this, but 

17    about 30 years ago I started my first job.  And I 

18    walked into the then Highland Branch Library, now 

19    Frederick Douglass Library, it's part of the 

20    Rochester Public Library System.  I served as a 

21    page, where I actually used to take books right 

22    on a cart and put them back on the shelf and 

23    shelve them again.  

24                 Libraries have come a long way, and 

25    many of the Senators here today have talked about 


                                                               1942

 1    that.  And so I'm so grateful to Senator Ryan for 

 2    his leadership on the Libraries Committee.  And 

 3    thank you, Senator Ryan, for also coming to 

 4    Rochester and seeing some of our libraries during 

 5    the off-session.

 6                 Libraries have changed.  And so 

 7    Senator Jordan said they've become career 

 8    centers.  Today's libraries are about resume 

 9    writing and helping people access employment 

10    opportunities.  

11                 As my friend and colleague Senator 

12    Hinchey talked about, it's an opportunity for the 

13    new American community to access some of the 

14    services that we have in this great country and 

15    to prepare for their own citizenship tests.  

16                 And for me, libraries are a gateway 

17    to where we want to go as an economic future for 

18    New York State.  So we talk a lot about what are 

19    those new emerging industries in New York that we 

20    can help prepare young people for the next 

21    generation of jobs -- digital gaming, video 

22    production.  Not something that you normally 

23    think about in terms of libraries, but you do in 

24    the Monroe Public Library System.  You do in your 

25    library systems across New York State.  


                                                               1943

 1                 And so I'm grateful for our 

 2    librarians who came from Monroe County and 

 3    Greater Rochester, from the Greece Library 

 4    System, from the Strong Museum, to be with us 

 5    here today.  

 6                 And I want to thank all of our 

 7    librarians and my former bosses, who allowed me 

 8    to have a career in public services.

 9                 Thank you.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

11    you, Senator Cooney.

12                 Senator Serino on the resolution.

13                 SENATOR SERINO:   Thank you, 

14    Mr. President.

15                 You know, Senator Brooks, you said 

16    it so well.  You know, when you talk about our 

17    stories from when we were a kid and remembering 

18    our libraries.  

19                 And I have to tell you, our 

20    libraries are so integral to our communities.  

21    And I think about being a single mom when I 

22    didn't have a lot of money and it was just -- it 

23    was great to be able to go to the library.  And 

24    looking at our -- what's going on now in our 

25    world today too, people that don't -- they're 


                                                               1944

 1    struggling, they go to the libraries, they use 

 2    their broadband.  

 3                 The seniors that need to -- want to 

 4    have some communication and socialization, 

 5    whether they're knitting or playing games.  But 

 6    our libraries have so much to offer.  

 7                 So, Senator Ryan, thank you for 

 8    moving this resolution forward.  And also a huge 

 9    thank you to all of our librarians and libraries.  

10    They have been such an integral part, especially 

11    through COVID.  It's been wonderful.

12                 So thank you.  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

14    you, Senator Serino.

15                 The resolution was previously 

16    adopted on March 29th.

17                 Senator Gianaris.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

19    Mr. President.

20                 I feel compelled to state for the 

21    record that you are in fact younger than 

22    Senator Cooney.  

23                 (Laughter.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

25    record shall reflect, Senator Gianaris.  So 


                                                               1945

 1    ordered.

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there any 

 3    further business at the desk?

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There is 

 5    no further business at the desk.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to adjourn 

 7    until tomorrow, Wednesday, April 6th, at 

 8    11:00 a.m.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   On 

10    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

11    Wednesday, April 6th, at 11:00 a.m.

12                 (Whereupon, at 3:54 p.m., the Senate 

13    adjourned.)

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