Regular Session - January 27, 2025

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                  January 27, 2025

11                      3:37 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JEREMY COONEY, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.) 

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Reading 

14    of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Friday, 

16    January 24, 2025, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Thursday, 

18    January 23, 2025, was read and approved.  On 

19    motion, the Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 Messages from the Governor.

25                 Reports of standing committees.


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 1                 Reports of select committees.

 2                 Communications and reports from 

 3    state officers.

 4                 Motions and resolutions.

 5                 Senator Gianaris.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good afternoon, 

 7    Mr. President.  

 8                 Please call on Senator Liu for an 

 9    introduction.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

11    Liu for an introduction.

12                 SENATOR LIU:   Mr. President, I rise 

13    to recognize iMentor NYC, a mentoring program 

14    that partners with 12 public high schools in the 

15    Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan and Queens, offering 

16    mentorships and invaluable guidance to primarily 

17    first-generation college students.  

18                 Their work not only supports 

19    academic success but also fosters personal 

20    development and prepares students for future 

21    challenges in their careers and everyday life.  

22                 Since 1999, the program has helped 

23    over 40,000 students grow into professional and 

24    upstanding members of their community.  

25                 I'd like to recognize the 


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 1    13 students and iMentor staff here today for 

 2    their hard work and ambition in creating the next 

 3    generation of leaders, Mr. President.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 5    you, Senator Liu.  

 6                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

 7    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

 8    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

 9                 Please rise and be recognized.

10                 (Standing ovation.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

12    Gianaris.  

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Next up we have 

14    previously adopted Resolution 229, by 

15    Senator Krueger.  Please read that resolution's 

16    title and, since Senator Krueger is in the midst 

17    of budget hearings, please call on Senator Mayer 

18    on the resolution.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

20    Secretary will read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Senate Resolution 

22    229, by Senator Krueger, memorializing 

23    Governor Kathy Hochul to proclaim January 27, 

24    2025, as Holocaust Remembrance Day in the 

25    State of New York.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 2    Mayer on the resolution.

 3                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

 4    Mr. Speaker.  

 5                 It is with a particularly heavy 

 6    heart this year that I rise to speak in support 

 7    of Senator Krueger's resolution urging the 

 8    Governor to proclaim January 27, 2025, as 

 9    Holocaust Remembrance Day in the State of 

10    New York.

11                 This has been an extremely tough 

12    two-year period for those who are Jewish and 

13    those who are not Jewish who stand in solidarity 

14    against antisemitism and hatred.  

15                 In the face of rising antisemitism 

16    here in our own communities we represent and in 

17    this state, in the nation, and sadly in the 

18    world, it's absolutely essential that we rise and 

19    speak together with one voice in support of this 

20    resolution to commemorate this day.  

21                 This day was established by the 

22    United Nations in 2005.  And I'd like to read 

23    some of what they said at the time:  "Reaffirming 

24    that the Holocaust, which resulted in the murder 

25    of one-third of the Jewish people, along with 


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 1    countless members of other minorities, will 

 2    forever be a warning to all people of the dangers 

 3    of hatred, bigotry, racism and prejudice."  

 4                 And among the things that they urged 

 5    us to do is "condemn without reserve all 

 6    manifestations of religious intolerance, 

 7    incitement, harassment or violence against 

 8    persons or communities based on ethnic origin or 

 9    religious belief wherever they occur."  

10                 It's especially fitting this year, 

11    on the 80th anniversary of the liberation of the 

12    Nazi concentration and extermination camp 

13    Auschwitz-Birkenau, that we stand together and we 

14    affirm our unity as one body.  And we can't just 

15    speak together in here.  Our job is to speak 

16    together outside of here.  Our job is to speak up 

17    in our communities when we see antisemitism and 

18    hatred, as we saw only yesterday in the City of 

19    New York, in a restaurant in Brooklyn.  And thank 

20    goodness so many of my colleagues rose to the 

21    defense.  

22                 But we need to do that every time, 

23    and we need to do it not only in the face of 

24    antisemitism, but in the face of hatred.  

25                 And I hate to say that this is a 


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 1    moment in Americans' history, in the world's 

 2    history, where there are warning signs about the 

 3    rise of hatred and antisemitism.  This calls for 

 4    our renewed vigilance and our determination to 

 5    turn this away before it gets to a state that we 

 6    cannot explain and cannot justify.

 7                 So I hope all my colleagues will 

 8    join me not only in supporting this resolution, 

 9    but promising that they will speak up in their 

10    communities and as a state against antisemitism 

11    and hatred in all forms.  

12                 I thank Senator Liz Krueger for 

13    always putting this resolution forward.  This is 

14    not a resolution for only Jewish members.  This 

15    is a resolution for all New Yorkers.  

16                 I urge a vote of yes.  Thank you.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

18    you, Senator Mayer.

19                 Senator Stavisky on the resolution.

20                 SENATOR STAVISKY:   Yes, thank you, 

21    Mr. President.  And thank you, Senator Krueger 

22    and Senator Mayer.  

23                 Yes, January 27th is the 

24    80th anniversary of the liberation of the death 

25    camp at Auschwitz-Birkenau, where over a million 


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 1    Jewish people were murdered.  But there's another 

 2    date in infamy, and that is this coming Thursday, 

 3    January 30th, which is the 92nd anniversary of 

 4    the appointment of Adolf Hitler as chancellor of 

 5    Germany.  

 6                 And in a sense when we, as we 

 7    should, commemorate the 80th anniversary, it's 

 8    sort of like looking at a book and reading the 

 9    last chapter first.  It really began in 1933 with 

10    Hitler's ascension to be chancellor, but it 

11    started a long time before that.  It started much 

12    earlier.

13                 And as Senator Mayer alluded, it 

14    started when Jewish-owned shops were vandalized, 

15    when there were boycotts, when there were books 

16    that were banned and burned.  And, yes, we had an 

17    attack in Brooklyn on an Israeli restaurant a 

18    couple of days ago.  That's how it started.

19                 And we are very concerned today 

20    that history does not repeat itself.  In the 

21    words of the Spanish-American philosopher George 

22    Santayana, he said -- to paraphrase him -- if we 

23    don't learn our history, we're doomed to repeat 

24    the mistakes.  And we are determined not to 

25    repeat the mistakes of the past.


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 1                 There are attacks not just on 

 2    Jewish merchants, not just on people -- 

 3    Asian-American people who were subjected to 

 4    slurs.  This is really a story of hatred amongst 

 5    everybody, attacks on everybody.  And it's wrong.  

 6                 And as Thomas Jefferson, our third 

 7    president, said:  "Eternal vigilance is the price 

 8    of liberty."  And with this resolution we hope to 

 9    maintain eternal vigilance, because it is the 

10    price of liberty.

11                 Thank you, Mr. President.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

13    you, Senator.

14                 Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick on the 

15    resolution.

16                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

17    Thank you, Mr. President.

18                 Thank you, Senator Mayer and 

19    Senator Krueger bringing this important 

20    resolution to the floor.  

21                 As was stated, January 27th marks 

22    the 80th anniversary of the liberation of the 

23    concentration camp at Auschwitz-Birkenau.  

24                 My dear friend Elly Gross was a 

25    Holocaust survivor and told me the story, with 


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 1    great trepidation, of how she stated to me that 

 2    she killed her mother.  And I said, "Elly, how is 

 3    that possible?"  

 4                 And Elly told me the story of when 

 5    she arrived at Auschwitz, that there were two 

 6    lines.  And her brother was younger than her, and 

 7    he was put on one line, and Elly, who was a 

 8    teenager, was put on the other line.  

 9                 And her mother initially was put 

10    with Elly.  And Elly said, "No, Mom, my brother 

11    needs you more.  You go with him."  And it turned 

12    out that that was the line to the gas chamber.  

13    And Elly lived with that horrible, horrible guilt 

14    her entire life.  

15                 She took her experience, though -- 

16    she survived being at Auschwitz and the horrors 

17    of being there, and then shared her story so that 

18    her family's horrific end was not in vain.  She 

19    wrote books, she spoke at schools, she shared her 

20    story so that people would not repeat history, as 

21    we just said.  

22                 Elly was spared the fate of being 

23    sent to the gas chambers because she was old 

24    enough to be put to work, because that's how they 

25    valued life at that point.  


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 1                 I can only imagine how difficult it 

 2    was for her to speak about this, but she had the 

 3    courage to speak out.  

 4                 Today reminds us of the horrors of 

 5    the hatred and intolerance, especially in the 

 6    wake of October 7th.  And as we await the release 

 7    of the remaining hostages from Hamas, we must 

 8    stand united against all forms of evil and 

 9    hatred.  It serves as a reminder of our need to 

10    be vigilant and take decisive action to combat 

11    antisemitism and all forms of hate and prejudice.  

12                 So thank you again for allowing us 

13    to remember those who perished so that history 

14    does not repeat itself.  

15                 Thank you, Mr. President.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

17    you, Senator.

18                 Senator Weber on the resolution.

19                 SENATOR WEBER:   Thank you, 

20    Mr. President.

21                 Thank you to the sponsors for 

22    bringing this very important resolution to the 

23    floor today.

24                 You know, Holocaust Remembrance Day 

25    is something that -- is something that we really 


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 1    take at heart in Rockland community, being a very 

 2    large and vibrant Jewish community.  Most of the 

 3    residents in my district have firsthand accounts 

 4    or secondhand accounts of family members 

 5    perishing during the Holocaust.  We also remember 

 6    the 80th anniversary of the liberation of the 

 7    Auschwitz concentration camps.  

 8                 You know, today I rise to remember 

 9    the 6 million Jews and millions of others who 

10    were murdered by the Nazi regime.  Today 

11    antisemitism is rising in America and around the 

12    world, and we must learn from history to ensure 

13    that something like this is never permitted to be 

14    perpetrated again.  

15                 We also need more and more people on 

16    both sides of the aisle to speak up and to 

17    continually speak out against antisemitism.  

18    Notably, there was an incident of antisemitism in 

19    Brooklyn just this past weekend.  

20                 I proudly represent, as I said 

21    earlier, a vibrant Jewish community in 

22    Rockland County, and we continue to honor those 

23    that perished during World War II.  

24                 So thank you for bringing this 

25    resolution forward, and thank you for my time.  


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 2    you, Senator.

 3                 Senator Hoylman-Sigal on the 

 4    resolution.

 5                 SENATOR HOYLMAN-SIGAL:   Thank you, 

 6    Mr. President.

 7                 I wanted to thank Senator Krueger 

 8    and Senator Mayer and Senator Stavisky for 

 9    leading this very important resolution on 

10    Holocaust Remembrance Day.

11                 You know, what I think about, 

12    Mr. President, is the recent data on Holocaust 

13    denialism, which is spreading disturbingly across 

14    this country and across the entire world.

15                 There was an Index of Holocaust 

16    Knowledge and Awareness that took into account a 

17    number of Western nations, testing the population 

18    as to their understanding of this horrific of all 

19    crimes that happened.

20                 In the United States it's good to 

21    know that 76 percent of all adults surveyed 

22    believe something like the Holocaust could happen 

23    today, because I think that awareness is so 

24    important.

25                 On the other side of the same coin 


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 1    is that the fact that Americans are so uneasy 

 2    about antisemitism and bigotry and racism in all 

 3    its forms to think that the vast majority of 

 4    Americans believe our democracy and our human 

 5    rights are so fragile that the Holocaust might 

 6    happen again sends a very stark message, I think, 

 7    to our fellow Americans.

 8                 Nearly half, 48 percent of 

 9    Americans, those surveyed, were unable to name a 

10    single camp or ghetto established by the Nazis 

11    during World War II.  Twenty-eight percent of 

12    Americans thought that less than 2 million Jews 

13    were killed in the Holocaust.  We know that that 

14    number is off by a factor of three.  Forty-four 

15    percent in the U.S. reported that Holocaust 

16    denialism across the United States was common.  

17    And 49 percent of adults in the United States 

18    reported that Holocaust distortion is widespread.

19                 In New York I wanted you to know 

20    that 58 percent of New Yorkers can't name a 

21    concentration camp or ghetto -- more than half.  

22    And 60 percent of New Yorkers don't know that 

23    6 million Jews were in fact killed.

24                 And, Mr. President, just last week 

25    when an American official, behind the seal of the 


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 1    President of the United States, gave a salute 

 2    that can only remind us of the Nazi horrors, and 

 3    then followed up with a tweet where he mocked, 

 4    openly mocked the Holocaust while serving as an 

 5    American official -- and of course I'm talking 

 6    about Elon Musk -- is so disturbing that I think 

 7    we all need to take this moment this day and 

 8    resolve, each and every one of us, that we will 

 9    work harder to combat antisemitism in all its 

10    forms.  

11                 You know, my rabbi once said the 

12    answer to antisemitism is to be more Jewish.  And 

13    I take that to heart.  But for Jews and non-Jews 

14    alike, and as we speak to our constituents, we 

15    must implore and impress upon them that we can 

16    never forget the horrors of that dark period, and 

17    we have to work to ensure that they never happen 

18    again.

19                 So thank you again to my colleagues 

20    for sponsoring this resolution, and let us all 

21    make certain that when we welcome a stranger to 

22    our shores, we keep in mind the MS St. Louis, the 

23    ship that was turned away from the shores of Cuba 

24    and Miami and Europe, where hundreds of Jews 

25    aboard that ship in 1939 were denied entry into 


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 1    the United States, and over a quarter of them 

 2    ended up being returned to Europe and perishing 

 3    in the camps.  

 4                 And again, that's a lesson for today 

 5    when we see the news about potential raids on our 

 6    own fellow New Yorkers who are seeking asylum in 

 7    our state.

 8                 Thank you, Mr. President.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

10    you, Senator.  

11                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton on the 

12    resolution.

13                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

14    you.  

15                 And thank you to the sponsors for 

16    bringing this resolution and honoring those who 

17    were lost in the Holocaust.  

18                 I have the privilege of representing 

19    the largest community of Holocaust survivors in 

20    the State of New York, and today and every day I 

21    am in awe of their resilience.  The stories that 

22    they have shared remain a somber reminder of the 

23    importance of reflecting on the horrors that they 

24    and their loved ones witnessed and experienced, 

25    and vowed to let them never repeat.  


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 1                 I would be remiss not to mention 

 2    that just last week in my district there was a 

 3    brutal attack of a taxi driver in Coney Island.  

 4    They stole the Star of David necklace right off 

 5    of his neck, and he was beaten, robbed and later 

 6    died in the hospital.  

 7                 Antisemitism is alive and well.  

 8    It's horrifying, and we must never, ever forget.  

 9                 Many of the survivors have formed 

10    organizations to keep their history alive, and 

11    they support one another.  I'm so proud that I'm 

12    able to support them, including the Holocaust 

13    Remembrance Association led by my dear friend, 

14    Mr. Sam Bykov; the American Association of 

15    Invalids and Veterans of World War II; the 

16    Association of East European Jewry; and many 

17    others.  

18                 These people work tirelessly to make 

19    sure that their history is remembered, their 

20    stories are shared, and that survivors have the 

21    resources and services that they need to support 

22    their communities.

23                 Thank you, everyone, for continuing 

24    to work to memorialize this part of our 

25    collective history.  And I look forward to 


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 1    continuing to support our Holocaust survivors and 

 2    making sure that we fight antisemitism in every 

 3    way possible.

 4                 Thank you.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 6    you, Senator.

 7                 Senator Martins on the resolution.

 8                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

 9    Mr. President.  

10                 And I'd also like to thank the 

11    sponsor for this resolution.  

12                 You know, I believe the answer to 

13    antisemitism, Mr. President, is to be more human.  

14    For those of us who are not Jews, I believe that 

15    it's a question of humanity.  We should all be 

16    more human and understand the horrors and the 

17    suffering of the systemic annihilation of 

18    6 million people for no reason other than their 

19    religious beliefs.  The hate that stands behind 

20    such an act is hard to understand, but it's 

21    important that we all sit here and we learn from 

22    it.

23                 And I would caution anyone from 

24    drawing comparisons.  Because as you draw 

25    comparisons to modern day, I fear that in those 


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 1    comparisons we actually minimize the tragedy and 

 2    the horror of the Holocaust by using references 

 3    to today, whatever those references happen to be.

 4                 So let's understand that when 

 5    6 million people died because of systemic hate, 

 6    that we as a world, one, obviously are cheapened 

 7    by it, but also have an opportunity to ensure, 

 8    and we say it time and again:  Never again.

 9                 The United Nations General Assembly 

10    designated today, January 27th, as the 

11    anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz and 

12    Birkenau as International Holocaust Remembrance 

13    Day.  So we are here for that purpose.

14                 We all remember the horrors in 

15    Israel just 15 months ago, the hate behind that.  

16    We've all seen the demonstrations on our college 

17    campuses and across this country, I believe 

18    motivated also by hate, misunderstanding, or just 

19    uneducated people who are allowed to lash out.

20                 It's hate.  I don't want to hear 

21    about free speech in the context of hate.  There 

22    is no such thing when we talk about the systemic 

23    annihilation of an entire group because of their 

24    religious beliefs, Mr. President.

25                 And so I want to thank the sponsor 


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 1    again for the opportunity not only to speak on 

 2    this resolution, but to come together, both sides 

 3    of the aisle, both reiterating the same important 

 4    point today.  Let's reaffirm our humanity, each 

 5    and every one of us.  Let's stop the comparisons 

 6    for political purposes.  Let's understand what's 

 7    at stake here and what happened.  And let's vow 

 8    to never allow it to happen again under any 

 9    circumstances.  

10                 And we do not forgive hate or bad 

11    behavior under any circumstances, Mr. President.  

12                 I'm happy to sign on to this 

13    resolution.  Thank you.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

15    you, Senator.

16                 Senator Rhoads on the resolution.

17                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you, 

18    Mr. President.  

19                 And I too want to rise and thank the 

20    sponsors of this resolution for allowing us the 

21    opportunity to pause today and recognize the 

22    absolute horrors of the Holocaust, and to remind 

23    not just ourselves but all New Yorkers of our 

24    responsibility not just to remember, not just to 

25    educate, but also to act.  


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 1                 And recognize that man's inhumanity 

 2    to man did not just occur during the Holocaust, 

 3    that we see man's inhumanity to man displayed in 

 4    the acts that we witnessed in Israel on 

 5    October 7th, the continued demonstrations of 

 6    man's inhumanity to man as we continue to see 

 7    hostages being held, separated from their 

 8    families.  

 9                 But also what we see happening right 

10    here in our own State of New York, where we try 

11    to preach tolerance and understanding.  It's a 

12    challenge for us not just to speak out today, but 

13    it's a challenge for us to act out today and 

14    every day to not only address things that are 

15    going on in our communities, but to take 

16    legislative action to address some of what we 

17    see.  

18                 There are a number of bills that 

19    have been filed, certainly in the 

20    Minority Conference, giving judges the authority 

21    to require or deny bail for someone arrested for 

22    hate crimes, to deny state-funded tuition 

23    assistance for students that are engaging in 

24    antisemitic behavior.  To require colleagues to 

25    report antisemitic activity, and provide 


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 1    antisemitic awareness and prevention training.  

 2                 To prohibit state funding for SUNY 

 3    and CUNY and community colleges that permit 

 4    terrorist organizations like Hamas on their 

 5    campuses.  To expand New York's hate crime laws 

 6    to include people who trespass at a house of 

 7    worship or protesters who obstruct traffic and 

 8    restrict access to buildings.  

 9                 To increase funding for the Securing 

10    Communities Against Hate Crimes grant program, 

11    and expand eligibility to include small 

12    businesses.  And to ban deceptive face coverings 

13    at public protests to prevent those who commit 

14    vandalism or violence from hiding their 

15    identities to evade law enforcement.  

16                 And as we gather together in a 

17    bipartisan way to remember the horrific acts of 

18    the Holocaust and to condemn antisemitism, let us 

19    also work in a bipartisan fashion to bring these 

20    pieces of legislation and others that have been 

21    filed to the floor to address some of the root 

22    causes of antisemitism and to keep our 

23    communities safer.  

24                 Again, thank you to the sponsors of 

25    this resolution.  And thank you, Mr. President, 


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 1    for being recognized.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 3    you, Senator.

 4                 The resolution was adopted on 

 5    January 22nd.

 6                 Senator Gianaris.

 7                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

 8    know that Senator Krueger would like to open that 

 9    resolution for cosponsorship.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

11    resolution is open for cosponsorship.  Should you 

12    choose not to be a cosponsor, please notify the 

13    desk.

14                 Senator Gianaris.

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   There will be an 

16    immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in 

17    Room 332.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   There 

19    will be an immediate meeting of the 

20    Rules Committee in Room 332.

21                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   The Senate 

22    stands at ease.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

24    Senate stands at ease.

25                 (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 


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 1    at 4:04 p.m.)

 2                 (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

 3    4:16 p.m.) 

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 5    Senate will return to order.

 6                 Senator Gianaris.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   There's a 

 8    report of the Rules Committee at the desk.  

 9                 Can we take that up, please.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

11    Secretary will read.  

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator 

13    Stewart-Cousins, from the Committee on Rules, 

14    reports the following bills:

15                 Senate Print 265, by 

16    Senator Harckham, an act in relation to directing 

17    the State Board of Real Property Tax Services to 

18    conduct a study on real property tax saturation;

19                 Senate Print 762A, by 

20    Senator Cleare, an act to amend the 

21    Public Health Law; 

22                 Senate Print 904, by 

23    Senator Gonzalez, an act to amend the 

24    Public Service Law; 

25                 Senate Print 1327, by 


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 1    Senator Parker, an act to amend the 

 2    Public Service Law; 

 3                 Senate Print 1329, by 

 4    Senator Parker, an act to amend the 

 5    Public Service Law; 

 6                 Senate Print 1330, by 

 7    Senator Parker, an act to amend the 

 8    Public Service Law; 

 9                 Senate Print 1701, by Senator Mayer, 

10    an act to amend the Public Service Law; 

11                 Senate Print 1847, by 

12    Senator Comrie, an act to amend the 

13    Public Service Law; 

14                 Senate Print 1896, by Senator Mayer, 

15    an act to amend the Public Service Law; 

16                 Senate Print 1966, by Senator Chris 

17    Ryan, an act to amend the Social Services Law;

18                 Senate Print 2124, by 

19    Senator Kavanagh, an act to amend the Tax Law; 

20                 Senate Print 2182, by 

21    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

22    Public Service Law; 

23                 Senate Print 2668, by 

24    Senator Cleare, an act to amend a chapter of the 

25    Laws of 2024;


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 1                 Senate Print 2669, by 

 2    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

 3    Public Health Law; 

 4                 Senate Print 2670, by 

 5    Senator Hoylman-Sigal, an act to amend the 

 6    Real Property Law; 

 7                 Senate Print 2671, by 

 8    Senator Baskin, an act to amend the 

 9    State Finance Law; 

10                 Senate Print 2672, by Senator May, 

11    an act to amend the General Business Law; 

12                 Senate Print 2673, by 

13    Senator Salazar, an act to amend the 

14    Correction Law; 

15                 Senate Print 2674, by 

16    Senator Hoylman-Sigal, an act to amend the 

17    Criminal Procedure Law; 

18                 Senate Print 2675, by Senator Fahy, 

19    an act to amend the Public Health Law; 

20                 Senate Print 2676, by 

21    Senator Bailey, an act to amend the 

22    Insurance Law; 

23                 Senate Print 2677, by 

24    Senator Martinez, an act to amend the 

25    General Municipal Law; 


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 1                 Senate Print 2678, by Senator Fahy, 

 2    an act to amend the Social Services Law; 

 3                 Senate Print 2679, by Senator Ramos, 

 4    an act to amend the Public Service Law; 

 5                 Senate Print 2680, by 

 6    Senator Sanders, an act to amend the 

 7    Financial Services Law; 

 8                 Senate Print 3190, by 

 9    Senator Kavanagh, an act to amend the 

10    Real Property Tax Law.

11                 All bills reported direct to third 

12    reading.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

14    the report of the Rules Committee.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   All those 

16    in favor of accepting the report of the 

17    Rules Committee signify by saying aye.

18                 (Response of "Aye.")

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Opposed, 

20    nay.

21                 (No response.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

23    report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

24                 Senator Gianaris.

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's take up 


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 1    the supplemental calendar, please.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 3    Secretary will read.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    141, Senate Print 904, by Senator Gonzalez, an 

 6    act to amend the Public Service Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 141, those Senators voting in the 

19    negative are Senators Ashby, Borrello, 

20    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Griffo, Helming, 

21    Lanza, Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

22    Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

23    and Weik.

24                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 19.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 


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 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    142, Senate Print 1327, by Senator Parker, an act 

 4    to amend the Public Service Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 9    shall have become a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 142, voting in the negative:  

17    Senator Walczyk.  

18                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    143, Senate Print 1329, by Senator Parker, an act 

23    to amend the Public Service Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

25    last section.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 143, those Senators voting in the 

10    negative are Senators Borrello, 

11    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Griffo, Lanza, Martins, 

12    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rolison, Stec, 

13    Tedisco, Walczyk and Weik.  Also Senator Rhoads.

14                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 15.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    144, Senate Print 1330, by Senator Parker, an act 

19    to amend the Public Service Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

24    shall have become a law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 


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 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 144, voting in the negative:  

 7    Senator Walczyk.  

 8                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 1.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    145, Senate Print 1701, by Senator Mayer, an act 

13    to amend the Public Service Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 

17    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

18    shall have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 145, those Senators voting in the 


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 1    negative are Senators Ashby, Borrello, 

 2    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Griffo, Helming, 

 3    Martins, Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

 4    Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, C. Ryan, Stec, 

 5    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 6                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 21.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    146, Senate Print 1847, by Senator Comrie, an act 

11    to amend the Public Service Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 146, those Senators voting in the 

23    negative are Senators Borrello, 

24    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Palumbo, Walczyk, Weber 

25    and Weik.


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 1                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 6.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    147, Senate Print 1896, by Senator Mayer, an act 

 6    to amend the Public Service Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

11    have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

16    Mayer to explain her vote.

17                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

18    Mr. President.

19                 I'd like to take the opportunity to 

20    read some of the emails I get every day.  

21                 (Reading.)  What exactly are you 

22    doing about Con Ed rates rising so rapidly?  

23    Senator Mayer, I know I represent most people 

24    when I discuss the exorbitant fees charged by Con 

25    Ed for delivery of our electricity and gas, it 


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 1    represents at least double the usage charge.  

 2    What can be done about this outrageous situation?  

 3    As we have no control over the delivery charges, 

 4    we want to join you in making a change.  Please 

 5    advise if your office is undertaking any efforts 

 6    to address the unsustainable delivery charges 

 7    imposed by Con Ed, and how we may support that 

 8    effort.

 9                 I would say that is 3 out of 

10    probably 20 a day that I receive in my office 

11    about the rates charged by Con Ed.  What can we 

12    do?  We can do something.  We can change the 

13    methodology by which the Public Service 

14    Commission sets the rates for these utilities.  

15    Which, I would point out, have a monopoly in 

16    New York State.  Basically they come in with a 

17    rate, the PSC says no, you're a little too high, 

18    and they negotiate something in between.  That is 

19    backwards.  

20                 They should set a preferred rate.  

21    There should be a rebuttable presumption that 

22    that is the right rate.  They're allowed to make 

23    a return, but not at the expense of our 

24    constituents, who cannot afford to stay 

25    downstairs in their homes or except in a single 


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 1    room where the heat is on.  

 2                 It is absolutely unsustainable.  The 

 3    time has come for us to do something.  This body 

 4    passed this bill last year.  I urge the Assembly 

 5    to do the same, the Governor to sign it.  We need 

 6    to do something and do it now.  

 7                 I vote aye.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 9    Mayer to be recorded in the affirmative.

10                 Announce the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 147, those Senators voting in the 

13    negative are Senators Ashby, Borrello, O'Mara, 

14    Ortt, Palumbo, Stec, Tedisco and Weik.  

15                 Ayes, 52.  Nays, 8.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    148, Senate Print 1966, by Senator C. Ryan, an 

20    act to amend the Social Services Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 


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 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 4    Chris Ryan to explain his vote.

 5                 SENATOR CHRIS RYAN:   Thank you, 

 6    Mr. President.  

 7                 Thank you to my colleagues for their 

 8    support of the bill.  

 9                 I just want to say during the first 

10    few weeks in Albany, and for the months prior, 

11    there certainly has been a concern I've heard far 

12    more than any others -- from my constituents, 

13    from advocates, from the budget we just heard 

14    about -- and that issue is affordability.  

15                 The people of New York is desperate 

16    for assistance to meet the cost of living, to pay 

17    for the simple things like putting food on the 

18    table, lowering the cost of healthcare, and in 

19    this instance, heating their homes.  

20                 It's an honor that my first bill in 

21    this great house will be one that directly 

22    addresses this need and helps the most vulnerable 

23    of us stay safe during this arguably hard time 

24    and these harsh winter months.

25                 This bill, requiring the automatic 


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 1    reenrollment of households eligible for the Home 

 2    Energy Assistance Program, known as HEAP, will 

 3    take one worry off the minds of people who have 

 4    enough to worry about.  As we've seen in the last 

 5    week or two the drastic rise in demand for this 

 6    program, this benefit is important now more than 

 7    ever.  

 8                 I am very proud to pick up this bill 

 9    from my predecessor, and I certainly hope to see 

10    it passed into law by the State Assembly and 

11    passed by the Governor.

12                 So -- and thank you, 

13    Majority Leader, for bringing this to the floor.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

15    Chris Ryan to be recorded in the affirmative.

16                 Announce the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

21    I'd like to pause for a moment to recognize the 

22    first bill passed by Senator Ryan.

23                 Now, you might -- (laughing).

24                 (Standing ovation.)

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


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 1    150, Senate Print 2182, by Senator Hinchey, an 

 2    act to amend the Public Service Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 7    shall have become a law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

17    reading of today's calendar.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there any 

19    further business at the desk?

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   There is 

21    no further business at the desk.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

23    adjourn until tomorrow, Tuesday, January 28th, at 

24    12:00 noon.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   On 


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 1    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

 2    tomorrow, Tuesday, January 28th, at 12:00 p.m.

 3                 (Whereupon, at 4:28 p.m., the Senate 

 4    adjourned.)

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