Regular Session - February 11, 2025

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                  February 11, 2025

11                      3:13 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR ROXANNE J. PERSAUD, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7  the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Reading 

14    of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

16    February 10, 2025, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Sunday, February 9, 

18    2025, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 The Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Rivera 


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 1    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 2    Assembly Bill Number 916 and substitute it for 

 3    the identical Senate Bill Number 788, 

 4    Third Reading Calendar 62.  

 5                 Senator Hoylman-Sigal moves to 

 6    discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 7    Assembly Bill Number 2056 and substitute it for 

 8    the identical Senate Bill 2670, Third Reading 

 9    Calendar 153.  

10                 Senator Baskin moves to discharge, 

11    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

12    Number 426 and substitute it for the identical 

13    Senate Bill 2671, Third Reading Calendar 154.

14                 Senator May moves to discharge, from 

15    the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

16    Number 441 and substitute it for the identical 

17    Senate Bill 2672, Third Reading Calendar 155.

18                 Senator Salazar moves to discharge, 

19    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

20    Number 1675 and substitute it for the identical 

21    Senate Bill 2673, Third Reading Calendar 156.

22                 Senator Hoylman-Sigal moves to 

23    discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

24    Assembly Bill Number 921 and substitute it for 

25    the identical Senate Bill 2674, Third Reading 


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 1    Calendar 157.

 2                 Senator Fahy moves to discharge, 

 3    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 4    Number 1475 and substitute it for the identical 

 5    Senate Bill 2675, Third Reading Calendar 158.

 6                 Senator Bailey moves to discharge, 

 7    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 8    Number 443 and substitute it for the identical 

 9    Senate Bill 2676, Third Reading Calendar 159.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   So 

11    ordered.  

12                 Messages from the Governor.

13                 Reports of standing committees.

14                 Reports of select committees.

15                 Communications and reports of state 

16    officers.

17                 Motions and resolutions.

18                 Senator Gianaris.

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good afternoon, 

20    Madam President.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Good 

22    afternoon.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to adopt 

24    the Resolution Calendar at this time.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   All 


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 1    those in favor of adopting the 

 2    Resolution Calendar please signify by saying aye.

 3                 (Response of "Aye.")

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Opposed, 

 5    nay. 

 6                 (No response.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 8    Resolution Calendar is adopted.

 9                 Senator Gianaris.

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's now take 

11    up the calendar.  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

13    Secretary will read.  

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 62, 

15    Assembly Bill 916, by Assemblymember Paulin, an 

16    act to amend the Public Health Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

21    same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2024.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 


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 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 62, those Senators voting in the 

 4    negative are Senators Ashby, Borrello, 

 5    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Felder, Gallivan, 

 6    Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, Martins, 

 7    Mattera, Ortt, Rhoads, Skoufis, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

 8    Weber and Weik.

 9                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 19.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    153, Assembly Bill Number 2056, by 

14    Assemblymember Hunter, an act to amend the 

15    Real Property Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    154, Assembly Bill Number 426, by 

 5    Assemblymember Otis, an act to amend the 

 6    State Finance Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

11    same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2024.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.  

23                 Senator Gianaris.

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

25    that was the first bill passed by our new 


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 1    colleague Senator April Baskin.

 2                 Congratulations.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD: 

 4    Congratulations.

 5                 (Standing ovation.)

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    155, Assembly Bill Number 441, by 

 8    Assemblymember Carroll, an act to amend the 

 9    General Business Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

13    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

14    same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2024.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

19    May to explain her vote.

20                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

21    Madam President.  

22                 I rise to acknowledge that this is a 

23    chapter amendment to a bill originally introduced 

24    by our former colleague Senator Thomas.  As the 

25    new chair of Consumer Protection, I am grateful 


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 1    for the chance to build on the work that he did 

 2    when he was our colleague.

 3                 Consumer protection policy at the 

 4    state level is becoming even more important now 

 5    that the federal government is abdicating its 

 6    role to protect consumers by gutting the 

 7    Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and now, 

 8    today, the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

 9                 As the president and his entourage 

10    of oligarchs remove the guardrails on fraud and 

11    scams and usury, it will be up to us to find ways 

12    to protect the people of New York from the 

13    potential harms that those could create.

14                 So I look forward to doing this 

15    work, and I vote aye.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

17    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

18                 Announce the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar 155, those Senators voting in the 

21    negative are Senators Felder, Gallivan, Skoufis, 

22    Walczyk and Weber.

23                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 5.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    156, Assembly Bill Number 1675, by 

 3    Assemblymember Peoples-Stokes, an act to amend 

 4    the Correction Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.  

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    157, Assembly Bill Number 921, by 

19    Assemblymember Lavine, an act to amend the 

20    Criminal Procedure Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

25    same manner as a chapter of the Laws of 2024.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 157, voting in the negative:  

 8    Senator Ortt.  

 9                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    158, Assembly Bill Number 1475, by 

14    Assemblymember Burdick, an act to amend the 

15    Public Health Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

21    roll.  

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

24    the results.  

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 Senator Gianaris.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   And that was the 

 5    first bill passed by our new colleague 

 6    Senator Pat Fahy.  

 7                 Congratulations.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD: 

 9    Congratulations.  

10                 (Standing ovation.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Calendar 

12    Number 159, Assembly Bill Number 443, by 

13    Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend the 

14    Insurance Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 159, voting in the negative:  


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 1    Senator Walczyk.  

 2                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    220, Senate Print 27, by Senator Jackson, an act 

 7    to amend the Education Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

11    act shall take effect on the first of July.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.  

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    221, Senate Print 78, by Senator Liu, an act to 

22    amend the Education Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


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 1    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 2    shall have become a law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    227, Senate Print 3738, by Senator Stavisky, an 

13    act to amend the Education Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect on the first of July.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    228, Senate Print 3779, by Senator Gounardes, an 

 3    act to amend the Education Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7    act shall take effect on the first of July.

 8                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Call the roll.  

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 228, voting in the negative:  

14    Senator Walczyk.

15                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    229, Senate Print 3810, by Senator Stavisky, an 

20    act to amend the Education Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

24    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

25    shall have become a law.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 229, those Senators voting in the 

 8    negative are Senators Borrello, Walczyk and 

 9    Weber.

10                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 3.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

14    reading of today's calendar.  

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there any 

16    further business at the desk today?  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

18    no further business at the desk.

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

20    adjourn until tomorrow, Wednesday, February 12th, 

21    at 11:00 a.m.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   On 

23    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

24    tomorrow, Wednesday, February 12th, at 11:00 a.m.

25                 The Senate is adjourned.


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 1                 (Whereupon, at 3:22 p.m., the Senate 

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