Regular Session - March 25, 2025

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                   March 25, 2025

11                      3:24 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JEREMY COONEY, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone to please rise and 

 5    recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.) 

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

14    reading of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

16    March 24, 2025, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Friday, March 21, 

18    2025, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 Messages from the Governor.

25                 Reports of standing committees.


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 1                 Reports of select committees.

 2                 Communications and reports from 

 3    state officers.

 4                 Motions and resolutions.

 5                 Senator Gianaris.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good afternoon, 

 7    Mr. President.  

 8                 I move to adopt the 

 9    Resolution Calendar, with the exceptions of 

10    Resolutions 558 and 569.  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   All those 

12    in favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar, 

13    with the exception of Resolutions 558 and 569, 

14    please signify by saying aye.

15                 (Response of "Aye.")

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Opposed, 

17    nay.

18                 (No response.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

20    Resolution Calendar is adopted.

21                 Senator Gianaris.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's now begin 

23    with Resolution 558, by Senator Baskin, read that 

24    resolution's title, and recognize Senator Baskin.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 


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 1    Secretary will read.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 558, by 

 3    Senator Baskin, commemorating the 

 4    100th Anniversary of "The Buffalo Criterion."

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 6    Baskin on the resolution.

 7                 SENATOR BASKIN:   Thank you, 

 8    Mr. President.  

 9                 And thank you, colleagues, for 

10    hearing me out this afternoon as I rise with 

11    great pleasure for the 100 years -- and 

12    counting -- that the Black press has been a force 

13    of change, truthfully reporting stories about 

14    communities that were often met with indifference 

15    by white-owned media or totally ignored.

16                 And when I mention this 100 years of 

17    Black press, the century-old history of its 

18    storytelling, I am proud to say that Buffalo, 

19    New York's own Buffalo Criterion newspaper is 

20    celebrating a milestone this year as well.

21                 For 100 years the Merriweather 

22    family has owned and operated this weekly 

23    publication, which informs and supports the 

24    community with information spanning the world, 

25    our state, and the City of Buffalo, founded in 


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 1    1925 by the first Frank E. Merriweather, who was 

 2    a graduate of Tuskegee Institute who was forced 

 3    to get a degree in journalism because at that 

 4    time, as a Black man, he was not allowed to get a 

 5    degree without getting a degree or studying in 

 6    several areas.  

 7                 He would later move to Buffalo, 

 8    New York, and in 1925 began the Criterion News.

 9                 I was honored last week to welcome 

10    the Criterion's new owner, Frank E. 

11    Merriweather III, his daughter Khadija 

12    Merriweather, and her son Nehemiah Merriweather, 

13    who traveled from Buffalo to join us in 

14    celebrating Black Press Day.

15                 And I want to thank the Merriweather 

16    family for shining a light on the role that 

17    Black America has played in this country and 

18    throughout our city.

19                 We are fortunate to have quality 

20    Black-led media outlets that can communicate 

21    critical information to residents, educating and 

22    enlightening readers and listeners without the 

23    threat of censorship or bias.  The Buffalo 

24    Criterion's 100th birthday is a story indeed 

25    worth telling.  


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 1                 I want to wish The Buffalo Criterion 

 2    another 100 years of success.  I want to thank 

 3    the Black Legislative Task Force for leading and 

 4    celebrating Black Press Day last week.  

 5                 And for us all to remember that 

 6    telling stories, especially those that are often 

 7    untold, and uplifting the voice of the silenced 

 8    helps our country and our communities thrive.

 9                 Thank you, Mr. President.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

11    you, Senator Baskin.

12                 The question is on the resolution.  

13    All in favor signify by saying aye.

14                 (Response of "Aye.")

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Opposed, 

16    nay.

17                 (No response.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

19    resolution is adopted.

20                 Senator Gianaris.

21                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Next up, 

22    Mr. President, is just previously adopted 

23    Resolution 570, by Senator Ramos.  Please read 

24    that resolution's title and recognize 

25    Senator Ramos.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 2    Secretary will read.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 570, 

 4    by Senator Ramos, commemorating the 

 5    114th Anniversary of the Triangle Shirtwaist 

 6    Factory Fire on March 25, 2025.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 8    Ramos on the resolution.

 9                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 

10    Mr. President.  

11                 I know many of you already know my 

12    story.  Both of my parents are formerly 

13    undocumented immigrants from Columbia.  My father 

14    was a printing pressman, my mom was a seamstress.  

15    And that makes today's resolution very special to 

16    me and to many families like mine.  

17                 To my family, the history of the 

18    Jewish, Italian and Irish immigrants who came to 

19    New York at the start of the 20th century is more 

20    than just something in textbooks -- it's our 

21    story too.  Our city, our state, and this entire 

22    country were built by enslaved people, immigrants 

23    and workers.  That's a beautiful story in ways.  

24    But it's also one with many dark chapters.  

25                 And one of the most painful parts of 


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 1    that American history came on March 25, 1911, 

 2    when a fire raged at the Triangle Shirtwaist 

 3    Factory in Manhattan.  One hundred forty-six of 

 4    the mostly Jewish and Italian immigrants who 

 5    worked at the factory died that day.  Most of 

 6    them were immigrant women.  They were 

 7    seamstresses, just like my mother.

 8                 Those workers did not have to die.  

 9    They were trapped in the flames because the doors 

10    had been padlocked by anti-union employers.  

11    There was no way to put the fire out because 

12    water buckets were left empty, and the fire 

13    department in New York City at the time didn't 

14    have ladders that went all the way up to those 

15    floors.  

16                 The factory owners had claimed their 

17    building was fireproof when clearly it wasn't.  

18    And worst of all, the owners allowed only one 

19    exit.  

20                 Survivors were haunted for decades 

21    by memories of people jumping out of the windows 

22    and slamming against the locked doors.  

23    Firefighters who showed up to battle the blaze 

24    were crying in the streets.

25                 But this tragedy wasn't all for 


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 1    nothing.  In the wake of this awful fire, unions 

 2    worked together with the people in this room back 

 3    then to press for meaningful reforms that helped 

 4    make workplaces safer.  It was this Legislature 

 5    that delivered some measure of accountability 

 6    after the Triangle Shirtwaist fire.

 7                 Our predecessors knew we had the 

 8    power to give workers and their families a better 

 9    life.  They showed that when big business 

10    wouldn't stand up for the people, we would have 

11    to step up and do the right thing.

12                 Now, 114 years later, we see so much 

13    of what we've won under attack by the current 

14    presidential administration.  The Trump 

15    administration revised rules determining 

16    eligibility for overtime pay, excluding 

17    approximately 8.2 million workers, and resulting 

18    in an annual loss of $1.2 billion in earnings.  

19                 Just earlier this month, the current 

20    presidential administration lowered the minimum 

21    wage for federal contractors, impacting employees 

22    such as janitors and food service workers.  Led 

23    by Elon Musk, DOGE executed the mass firing of 

24    federal employees with nearly 25,000 workers 

25    dismissed and later ordered to be rehired 


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 1    following a court ruling.

 2                 Trump nominated individuals with 

 3    records of opposing labor protections to key 

 4    positions.  They reduced the number of OSHA 

 5    inspectors to historic low levels and lessened 

 6    penalties for companies failing to report 

 7    violations.  

 8                 President Trump issued executive 

 9    orders aimed at degrading the rights of 

10    federal-sector employees and undermining union 

11    activities.  And in an unprecedented move, he 

12    fired National Labor Relations Board member 

13    Gwynne Wilcox, the first Black woman to serve on 

14    the board, which was seen as an attack on workers 

15    and the rule of law.

16                 Mr. President, I can go on and on 

17    with what the attack on workers looks like today.  

18    And I plead to my colleagues that this year and 

19    every year we continue to stand up for workers to 

20    make sure that they're protected, that they're 

21    bringing home a whole week's pay, and that we're 

22    able to rebuild a middle class in this country 

23    that is inclusive of every single type of 

24    New Yorker that calls this great state home.

25                 Thank you.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 2    you, Senator Ramos.

 3                 Senator Stavisky on the resolution.

 4                 SENATOR STAVISKY:   Yes, thank you, 

 5    Mr. President.

 6                 Thank you, Senator Ramos, for 

 7    speaking up for the working men and women in our 

 8    country as well as our state.

 9                 One of our former colleagues used to 

10    get up every year on this resolution.  And since 

11    he's no longer here, I want to echo what 

12    Senator Serph Maltese used to talk about, because 

13    he was a close relative of somebody who perished 

14    in that fire.  

15                 And this continued each year, and 

16    I'm glad that we recognize the events of history 

17    that have changed our lives in a positive way.

18                 So thank you, Mr. President.  And I 

19    speak for Senator Maltese.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

21    you, Senator Stavisky.  

22                 Senator Chris Ryan on the 

23    resolution.

24                 SENATOR CHRIS RYAN:   Thank you.  

25    Thank you, Mr. President.  


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 1                 You know, it's really important to 

 2    remember today about the 146 mostly young women 

 3    that lost their lives, that perished, burned to 

 4    death.  And it's important to know that those 

 5    tragic deaths weren't in vain.  

 6                 But I kind of think one of the 

 7    consequences of this fire -- if you remember, if 

 8    you've seen the poster, right, it says "A 

 9    Movement Born Out of Fire."  

10                 And what this tragic event did is it 

11    sparked not only a movement of progressive ideas 

12    and shaped some political ideologies, but also 

13    shaped a lot of impactful and very meaningful 

14    standards such as OSHA.  The Triangle Shirtwaist 

15    Factory fire paved the way for OSHA standards, 

16    38 new labor laws, setting a precedent for state 

17    and federal reforms.  

18                 And, you know, we just have to 

19    remember that.  And now we can't go backwards.  

20    We have to continue to maintain those standards, 

21    wage standards.  As a labor leader, I've always 

22    stuck up for labor, I'll always be labor.  And we 

23    have to remember that tragic events like this 

24    have paved the way, and it's mindful that we 

25    can't go back.  


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 1                 And just remember, going forward, a 

 2    lot of our rollbacks Senator Ramos talked about 

 3    with the NLRB -- we just have to maintain our 

 4    standards of living.  

 5                 So thank you.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 7    you, Senator Ryan.

 8                 The resolution was adopted today.  

 9                 Senator Gianaris.

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

11    let me remind my colleagues that the resolution 

12    process should not be a vehicle to address policy 

13    disputes outside the scope of the resolution 

14    itself.  So let's please keep our comments on the 

15    issue that we are honoring and commemorating.

16                 Next up is previously adopted 

17    Resolution 512, by Senator Murray.  Please read 

18    that resolution's title and recognize 

19    Senator Murray.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

21    Secretary will read.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 512, by 

23    Senator Murry, congratulating Zariel Macchia upon 

24    the occasion of capturing the 2025 New York State 

25    Public High School Athletic Association 


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 1    High School Indoor Track Championship in the 

 2    3,000-meter race.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 4    Murray on the resolution.

 5                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you, 

 6    Mr. President.  I'm very proud to sponsor this 

 7    resolution honoring one of the most impressive 

 8    high school athletes in New York State.

 9                 Earlier this month, William Floyd 

10    High School Senior Zariel Macchia won her second 

11    career indoor state title in the 3,000 meters, 

12    setting a new national best time of 9 minutes, 

13    21.73 seconds.  Just so we know, 3,000 meters is 

14    1.86 miles.  So she ran that in under 10 minutes.  

15                 That's not all she did that day.  

16    After her championship record-setting race in the 

17    3,000 meters, she finished third in the 1,000 

18    meters, just 3 milliseconds shy of second place.  

19    She then ran the anchor leg for Suffolk County in 

20    the 1500-meter relay race, which they won in 

21    10 minutes and 2.06 seconds.  I'm exhausted just 

22    reading this.  

23                 Zariel has been a state champion 

24    throughout her high school career.  She won the 

25    State Cross-Country Championship in '22 and '24; 


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 1    was Cross-Country Federation Champion in 2023 and 

 2    2024, and is a three-time Gatorade Athlete of the 

 3    Year:  2022 and 2023 for cross-country, and in 

 4    2024 for track and field.

 5                 In addition to all of her athletic 

 6    achievements, Zariel is also heavily involved in 

 7    many other school and nonschool activities, 

 8    including the Science Honor Society.  

 9                 After graduation, Zariel is going to 

10    continue her track and field career at 

11    Brigham Young University -- a university in the 

12    Sweet 16, I might add.  And I would not be 

13    surprised at all to hear her name on the podium 

14    at the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles or even in 

15    2032.

16                 Zariel is an impressive student 

17    athlete who is a credit to her family, a credit 

18    to her school, her community, the 3rd State 

19    Senate District, and all of New York State.  

20                 We wish her all the best in the 

21    future.  Congratulations, Zariel.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

23    you, Senator Murray.

24                 The resolution was adopted on 

25    March 18th.


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 1                 Senator Gianaris.

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

 3    have some motions here.  

 4                 Amendments are offered to the 

 5    following Third Reading Calendar bills:  

 6                 By Senator Scarcella-Spanton, on 

 7    page 8, Calendar 191, Senate Print 2068.  

 8                 And by Senator Addabbo, on page 14, 

 9    Calendar 334, Senate Print 3579. 

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

11    amendments are received, and the bills will 

12    retain their place on the Third Reading Calendar.

13                 Senator Gianaris.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   On behalf of 

15    Senator Skoufis, I wish to call up Senate Print 

16    228, recalled from the Assembly, which is now at 

17    the desk.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

19    Secretary will read.  

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    166, Senate Print 228, by Senator Skoufis, an act 

22    to amend the Real Property Law.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to 

24    reconsider the vote by which that bill was 

25    passed.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 2    Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 6    is restored to its place on the Third Reading 

 7    Calendar.

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I offer the 

 9    following amendments.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

11    amendments are received.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

13    should have mentioned it earlier, but today's 

14    resolution sponsors would like to open them up 

15    for cosponsorship.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

17    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.  Should 

18    you choose not to be a cosponsor on the 

19    resolutions, please notify the desk.

20                 Senator Gianaris.

21                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please take up 

22    the calendar.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

24    Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


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 1    186, Senate Print 2305, by Senator Krueger, an 

 2    act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules.

 3                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Lay it 

 5    aside.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    200, Senate Print 2555, by Senator Comrie, an act 

 8    to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    217, Senate Print 3198, by Senator Hoylman-Sigal, 

23    an act in relation to requiring the Division of 

24    Housing and Community Renewal to calculate the 

25    period of rent reduction.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 217, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

13    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

14    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

15    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

16    Weber and Weik.

17                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 22.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    296, Senate Print 2437, by Senator Krueger, an 

22    act to amend the Election Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


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 1    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 2    shall have become a law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.) 

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar Number 296, voting in the negative:  

10    Senator Walczyk.

11                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    361, Senate Print 2551, by Senator Myrie, an act 

16    to amend the Penal Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

25    the results.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2    Calendar 361, voting in the negative are 

 3    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

 4    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 5    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

 6    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 7                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 20.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    416, Senate Print 3632, by Senator Fernandez, an 

12    act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law. 

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:  Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

17    shall have become a law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

25    is passed.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    421, Senate Print 4964, by Senator Bailey, an act 

 3    to amend the Insurance Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    429, Senate Print 3569, by Senator Cleare, an act 

18    to amend the Public Housing Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.) 


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   If 

 2    members could indicate their votes, please.

 3                 Announce the results.  

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 429, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 7    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 8    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 9    Palumbo, Rhoads, Scarcella-Spanton, Stec, 

10    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

11                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 22.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    459, Senate Print 5275, by Senator Bailey, an act 

16    to amend the Education Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

25    the results.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    461, Senate Print 3571, by Senator Cleare, an act 

 6    in relation to naming a certain state facility 

 7    after Willie Mae "Goody" Goodman.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    462, Senate Print 4775, by Senator C. Ryan, an 

22    act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


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 1    act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 

 2    shall have become a law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    474, Senate Print 3443, by Senator Harckham, an 

13    act to amend the Executive Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

25    is passed.


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 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

 2    think Senator Fahy wanted to explain her vote on 

 3    that bill, if we could make the accommodation and 

 4    give her two minutes to do so.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 6    Fahy to explain her vote.

 7                 SENATOR FAHY:   Thank you.  

 8                 I rise today in support of this bill 

 9    designating March 25th as the National Medal of 

10    Honor Day -- or as the State Medal of Honor Day.  

11                 I'm proud to support this.  It's now 

12    more important than ever that we honor our 

13    veterans and particularly those who have been 

14    Medal of Honor awardees.  

15                 Just today we had a press event to 

16    honor one of our local legendary Medal of Honor 

17    winners, and that is Sergeant Henry Johnson.  He 

18    served in World War I, and it took almost a 

19    century of work, a lot through the efforts of 

20    Senator Schumer, actually, in the last couple of 

21    decades, and to honor and right a wrong on when 

22    he had not even been given a Purple Heart.  

23                 We also learned -- part of the 

24    reason we held that is today we learned that 

25    there was a sudden disappearance of the website 


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 1    giving the story of Sergeant Henry Johnson, 

 2    because a military base in Louisiana had been 

 3    named after him in 2001 after the National 

 4    Defense Authorization Act had brought together a 

 5    bipartisan effort to rename some of the military 

 6    bases.

 7                 Just a brief thing about -- a brief 

 8    background on Sergeant Henry Johnson.  In 1918, 

 9    in World War I, he was awarded this Medal of 

10    Honor because of holding off over a dozen 

11    German -- a German raiding party.  And it was 

12    rather miraculous in terms of who he helped to 

13    save.  It was part of the 369th Infantry 

14    Regiment.  He received France's highest medal of 

15    Honor at that time in 1918 for his bravery, but, 

16    again, it took almost a hundred years for him to 

17    be recognized in this country.

18                 He was also seriously wounded, with 

19    21 injuries.  And I just want to make sure that 

20    we have it in the record today because there is 

21    such a serious concern that there may be an 

22    effort underway to erase or downplay his 

23    extraordinary heroism at a time when he had to 

24    serve in a Black military infantry unit referred 

25    to as the "Harlem Hellfighters."  


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 1                 And we want to make sure that there 

 2    will be no rewriting of history given all the 

 3    wrongs that took decades to right.  And hope that 

 4    we will see his history continue to be honored.  

 5                 Thank you again.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 7    Fahy to be recorded in the affirmative.

 8                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton to explain 

 9    her vote.

10                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

11    you, Mr. President.  

12                 And thank you, Senator Harckham, for 

13    introducing this bill that ensures New York 

14    recognizes this important day.  

15                 Today we're recognizing Medal of 

16    Honor Day here in New York State, a day to honor 

17    the extraordinary bravery and sacrifice of our 

18    nation's most decorated heroes.  The Medal of 

19    Honor is our nation's highest military award, 

20    presented for acts of valor above and beyond the 

21    call of duty.  

22                 As the chair of the Veterans 

23    Committee, it is a privilege to be able to speak 

24    on this legislation.  My husband, who deployed 

25    with the 4th ID to Afghanistan, deployed with 


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 1    Captain Flo Groberg, a Medal of Honor recipient 

 2    and Fort Carson soldier.  In 2012 Flo rushed in, 

 3    risking his own life to stop a suicide bomber -- 

 4    an act of unimaginable bravery.  

 5                 His history is a reminder that 

 6    behind every Medal of Honor recipient is a human 

 7    being with a story that must be told.  

 8                 Today we honor them all, and I 

 9    proudly vote aye.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

11    Scarcella-Spanton to be recorded in the 

12    affirmative.

13                 The bill is passed.

14                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

15    reading of today's calendar.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's take up 

17    the controversial calendar, please.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

19    Secretary will ring the bell.

20                 The Secretary will read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    186, Senate Print 2305, by Senator Krueger, an 

23    act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

25    Lanza, why do you rise?


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 1                 SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, I 

 2    believe there is an amendment at the desk.  I 

 3    waive the reading of that amendment and ask that 

 4    you recognize Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 6    you, Senator Lanza. 

 7                 Upon review of the amendment, and in 

 8    accordance with Rule 6, Section 4B, I rule it 

 9    nongermane and out of order at this time.

10                 SENATOR LANZA:   Accordingly, 

11    Mr. President, I appeal the ruling of the chair 

12    and ask that you recognize Senator 

13    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to be heard on that appeal.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

15    appeal has been made and recognized, and we 

16    recognize Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to be 

17    heard.

18                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

19    Thank you, Mr. President.

20                 The amendment at the desk is germane 

21    to the bill-in-chief because they both deal with 

22    court system and evidentiary procedure.  

23                 The amendment would repeal the 

24    changes to discovery law passed in 2019.  We have 

25    seen disastrous implications that these so-called 


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 1    criminal justice reforms have made in our 

 2    communities since these laws have been passed.  

 3                 Bail reform created a revolving door 

 4    system to our criminal justice system, and 

 5    discovery reform has placed undue burdens on our 

 6    district attorneys and prosecutors.  And it has 

 7    created a system where defense attorneys 

 8    capitalize on technicalities to allow cases to be 

 9    dismissed.

10                 We have had some disastrous, 

11    disturbing statistics.  Discovery -- prior to 

12    when discovery reform was passed in 2019, 

13    conviction rates for domestic violence cases was 

14    approximately 31 percent, and today it's down to 

15    6 percent.  What do we tell those victims, that 

16    their crime is something that we can't prosecute 

17    due to a technicality?

18                 Three out of five domestic violence 

19    cases in New York City are dismissed, and overall 

20    there has been a 455 percent increase in forced 

21    dismissals since 2019.  

22                 While the average New Yorker might 

23    be shocked at the increase of criminal charges 

24    being dropped and cases being dismissed, members 

25    of our conference, law enforcement and our DAs 


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 1    have raised these concerns.  We raised them 

 2    before this legislation was passed, and we 

 3    unfortunately cannot get the attention of the 

 4    Legislature to change these rules.  It's 

 5    certainly been a priority that I've discussed.  

 6                 And therefore, Mr. President, I 

 7    strongly urge that you rule that this amendment 

 8    is germane and ask for a vote in favor of this 

 9    amendment.

10                 Thank you.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

12    you, Senator.

13                 I want to remind the house that the 

14    vote is on the procedures of the house and the 

15    ruling of the chair.  

16                 Those in favor of overruling the 

17    chair, signify by saying aye.

18                 (Response of "Aye.")

19                 SENATOR LANZA:   Show of hands.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   A show of 

21    hands has been requested and so ordered.

22                 Announce the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 22.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

25    ruling of the chair stands, and the bill-in-chief 


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 1    is before the house. 

 2                 Read the last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 9    Palumbo to explain his vote.

10                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Thank you, 

11    Mr. President.

12                 With respect to the bill-in-chief, 

13    confessions of judgment are used often in private 

14    lending.  This is something that lawyers use all 

15    the time in exchange for not having to sue 

16    someone in the event there's a nonpayment.

17                 So for example, if someone loans 

18    $50,000 for the purposes of an investment, 

19    starting a new business -- usually the parties 

20    will know each other -- the lawyers will draft a 

21    promissory note and then ultimately have that 

22    person sign a confession of judgment, which is 

23    good for three years.  

24                 This bill bans every confession of 

25    judgment under $5 million.  So this deals 


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 1    actually with the little guy.  It's completely 

 2    counterintuitive to what I believe the sponsor is 

 3    trying to achieve.  Because now you have the 

 4    inability for someone to just simply file a 

 5    confession of judgment and then go after their 

 6    assets in exchange for that note.  The lender 

 7    isn't going to lend the money.  

 8                 So if I need $50,000 to start my new 

 9    business, to get it going, that I promise to pay 

10    back, I'm just not going to give it to you, 

11    because I'm not going to sue you in Supreme Court 

12    for a failure to pay, go through thousands and 

13    thousands of dollars in legal fees and years of 

14    time and expense to get to trial to finally get 

15    the judgment so I can get my money back.

16                 So this is a very useful tool.  And 

17    again, it's a confession of judgment.  This is an 

18    agreement between the parties.  This isn't a 

19    judgment that is imposed by somebody, this is a 

20    deal that we're injecting ourselves into the 

21    middle of it.  

22                 This is not a very good bill.  In 

23    fact, it's completely counter to what I -- as I 

24    mentioned, I believe the sponsor is trying to 

25    achieve.  


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 1                 As a result, I'm voting in the 

 2    negative, and I urge my colleagues to do the 

 3    same.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 5    Palumbo to be recorded in the negative.

 6                 Senator Krueger to explain her vote.

 7                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you very 

 8    much.  

 9                 I appreciate my colleague's response 

10    on the bill.  I have to disagree.  

11                 This is a law that would make our 

12    practices in New York consistent with most states 

13    in the country.  The concept that a private 

14    individual or a small business would go into some 

15    kind of deal where then whoever they owed money 

16    to could go to a court, get a confession of 

17    judgment -- without even letting me know, giving 

18    me an opportunity to have my day in court to say 

19    none of this is valid -- is an opportunity for 

20    consumers and small businesses to be ripped off 

21    by those with larger assets than them, and 

22    lawyers.

23                 And frankly, we should not allow 

24    this.  This is good consumer protection law that 

25    most states are following.  And we already 


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 1    changed our law for larger companies a few years 

 2    ago, and out-of-state companies.  And we should 

 3    have the same rights for the consumers and small 

 4    businesses in our state.  

 5                 And I ask my colleagues to vote yes.

 6                 Thank you, Mr. President.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 8    Krueger to be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                 Senator Sanders to explain his vote.

10                 SENATOR SANDERS:   I want to 

11    congratulate Senator Krueger for this.  

12                 The confessions of judgment have 

13    been misused, as documented in the Wall Street 

14    Journal, I believe, of roughly a year and a half 

15    ago -- have been terribly misused.  

16                 And I am very grateful that she is 

17    moving and that we will see some end to this 

18    abuse.  I proudly join her in this.

19                 Thank you, sir.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

21    Sanders to be recorded in the affirmative.

22                 Announce the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 186, voting in the negative are 

25    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 


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 1    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 2    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 3    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

 4    Weber and Weik.

 5                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 22.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 Senator Gianaris, that completes a 

 9    the reading of today's calendar.

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

11    is there any further business at the desk?

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   There is 

13    no further business at the desk.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

15    adjourn until tomorrow, Wednesday, March 26th, at 

16    3:00 p.m.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   On 

18    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

19    Wednesday, March 26th, at 3:00 p.m.

20                 (Whereupon, at 3:59 p.m., the Senate 

21    adjourned.)

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