Regular Session - April 29, 2025

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                   April 29, 2025

11                     11:33 a.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JEREMY COONEY, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone to please rise and 

 5    recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Reading 

14    of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

16    April 28, 2025, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Friday, April 25, 

18    2025, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 Messages from the Governor.

25                 Reports of standing committees.


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 1                 Reports of select committees.

 2                 Communications and reports from 

 3    state officers.

 4                 Motions and resolutions.

 5                 Senator Gianaris.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   We're going to 

 7    start with an immediate meeting of the 

 8    Rules Committee in Room 332, Mr. President.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   There 

10    will be an immediate meeting of the 

11    Rules Committee in Room 332.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   The Senate 

13    stands at ease.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

15    Senate stands at ease.

16                 (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

17    at 11:34 a.m.)

18                 (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

19    11:39 a.m.) 

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

21    Senate will return to order.

22                 Senator Gianaris.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   There's a report 

24    of the Rules Committee at the desk, 

25    Mr. President.  Please take that up.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 2    Secretary will read.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator 

 4    Stewart-Cousins, from the Committee on Rules, 

 5    reports the following bills:

 6                 Senate Print 7672, by 

 7    Senator Martinez, an act to amend the 

 8    General Municipal Law; 

 9                 Senate Print 7673, by 

10    Senator Krueger, an act making appropriations for 

11    the support of government.

12                 Both bills reported direct to third 

13    reading.  

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

15    the report of the Rules Committee.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   All those 

17    in favor of accepting the report of the 

18    Rules Committee please signify by saying aye.

19                 (Response of "Aye.")

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Opposed, 

21    nay.

22                 (No response.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

24    report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

25                 Senator Gianaris.


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 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please take up 

 2    the supplemental calendar.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 4    Secretary will read.  

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    713, Senate Print 7673, by Senator Krueger, an 

 7    act making appropriations for the support of 

 8    government.

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there a 

10    message of necessity and appropriation at the 

11    desk?

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   There is 

13    a message of necessity and appropriation at the 

14    desk.

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

16    the message.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   All those 

18    in favor of accepting the message please signify 

19    by saying aye.

20                 (Response of "Aye.")

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Opposed, 

22    nay.

23                 (Response of "Nay.")

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

25    message is accepted.  The bill is before the 


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 1    house.

 2                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 4    will be laid aside.

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's go to the 

 6    controversial calendar.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 8    Secretary will ring the bell.

 9                 The Secretary will read.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    713, Senate Print 7673, by Senator Krueger, an 

12    act making appropriations for the support of 

13    government.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

15    O'Mara, why do you rise?

16                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Yes, 

17    Mr. President.  If Senator Krueger would yield 

18    for some questions on this extender.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

20    sponsor yield?  

21                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Indeed I will.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

23    sponsor yields.

24                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Good morning, 

25    Senator.  


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 1                 Yesterday evening, clearly with 

 2    great fanfare, the Governor announced a budget 

 3    agreement with a budget at $254 billion, 

 4    $10 billion above the current year or last year's 

 5    budget.  Last year an agreement was announced, 

 6    and then we heard from Senator Andrea 

 7    Stewart-Cousins and Speaker Heastie that they 

 8    didn't know what she was talking about.  

 9                 Is there an agreement at this point 

10    on this budget?  And where are we?

11                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   There's a 

12    conceptual agreement.  So I think there's a 

13    little more information than at this moment in 

14    history last year when, again, the Governor also 

15    announced that it was done when some of us were 

16    like, well, not quite yet.

17                 So not quite yet, but closer.  We 

18    are still having three-way discussions on many 

19    different details within a financial plan that 

20    will add up to the amount that the Governor 

21    announced yesterday.

22                 So we do have a general outline of 

23    the amount of money coming in and being spent.  

24    We are still having discussion about any number 

25    of individual policy discussions within the 


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 1    budget.  This extender goes through Thursday.  I 

 2    believe we will be back here Thursday morning to 

 3    pass hopefully one final extender.

 4                 And then I do not have a crystal 

 5    ball, but I would guess we will probably be ready 

 6    to do the budget bills when we come back on 

 7    Monday.

 8                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

 9    Senator.

10                 Mr. President, if the Senator will 

11    continue to yield.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

13    sponsor yield?

14                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

16    sponsor yields.

17                 SENATOR O'MARA:   So have any of the 

18    eight remaining budget bills been finalized in 

19    print yet?  

20                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   No.

21                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Through you, 

22    Mr. President, if the Senator will continue to 

23    yield.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

25    sponsor yield? 


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 1                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 3    sponsor yields.

 4                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Of the really -- I 

 5    guess the four big policy issues that have held 

 6    up this budget of discovery -- involuntary 

 7    commitment, cellphones and masks -- do you have 

 8    any specificity of language on what the actual 

 9    agreement is on any of those?

10                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

11    Mr. President.  I wish I had actually written 

12    language to offer on all of those.  

13                 All I think I can say is that there 

14    does -- there seems to be three-way agreement on 

15    the language of all of those even if people are 

16    maybe still working on the exact sentence 

17    structure.

18                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Through you, 

19    Mr. President, if the Senator will continue to 

20    yield.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

22    sponsor yield?

23                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

25    sponsor yields.  


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 1                 SENATOR O'MARA:   So -- and I guess 

 2    until those actual details get written down on 

 3    paper in bill text to share, those -- the details 

 4    can change, because there's a lot in the 

 5    semantics of these languages -- the language of 

 6    these proposals that can really change the whole 

 7    thrust of these policy issues.

 8                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   I agree, which is 

 9    why I would prefer that we didn't operate in a 

10    scenario where there's a press conference saying 

11    there's a deal when there is only the conceptual 

12    framework of a deal.  

13                 I personally also always prefer to 

14    see things in writing.  I always am telling 

15    people when they make propositions to me, when 

16    they suggest things to me, I'm like, Could you 

17    put it in writing and let me review?  I'm just a 

18    legislator.  I know how to read legislation.  I 

19    don't necessarily know how to interpret what 

20    you're saying as being exactly what I'm hearing.  

21                 So yes, I would prefer that 

22    everything was in writing.  I try to work that 

23    way in my personal life.  But right now we do not 

24    have final language for budget bills, which is 

25    why we are not bringing budget bills to the floor 


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 1    or even into the legislative computer system.

 2                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you.

 3                 Mr. President, if the Senator will 

 4    continue to yield.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 6    sponsor yield?   

 7                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 9    sponsor yields.

10                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Senator, one of 

11    our, you know, overriding concerns with the 

12    lateness of this budget has been school budgets 

13    and the need to have those finalized and passed.  

14    And I think we're past that point of return.  

15                 But at this point, with this 

16    conceptual agreement, is there an agreement on 

17    overall education spending for our school 

18    districts?  And are there school runs available?  

19                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Through you, 

20    Mr. President.  There are not school runs 

21    available.  Based on our conversations and 

22    discussions, we in the Legislature have been 

23    successful in increasing the amount of education 

24    aid compared to what the Governor proposed in her 

25    Executive Budget.


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 1                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Through you, 

 2    Mr. President, if the Senator will continue to 

 3    yield.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 5    sponsor yield?

 6                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.

 9                 SENATOR O'MARA:   I'm sorry, I 

10    didn't quite hear you.  Did you say that you've 

11    been successful in increasing what the 

12    Governor -- because what I saw the Governor 

13    present yesterday I thought -- I was told, 

14    anyways -- I mean, I saw what she presented.  

15    Then I was told it was the same thing that was in 

16    her Executive Budget, the overall amount for 

17    that.

18                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   So I don't know 

19    that I saw what she presented yesterday.  I 

20    couldn't watch her press event; we were in 

21    conference discussing the budget.  

22                 So did she put a number out?

23                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Yeah, it was the 

24    same number that was in her Executive Budget, is 

25    my understanding.


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 1                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Okay.  So my 

 2    understanding is that there is an increase over 

 3    what she put out in her Executive Budget.  

 4                 But again, we don't have anything in 

 5    writing right now.

 6                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Again through you, 

 7    Mr. President, if the Senator will continue to 

 8    yield.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

10    sponsor yield?

11                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

13    sponsor yields.

14                 SENATOR O'MARA:   What is your 

15    understanding of how much the Legislature added 

16    to her executive proposal for school funding?

17                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   I don't think I'm 

18    in a position to be able to answer that question 

19    right now.  Because now you're leading me to 

20    believe that perhaps what she is putting out is 

21    different than my understanding of what I was 

22    told, so I want to make sure.

23                 Okay.  I'm told that we were advised 

24    there's an additional 140 million for 

25    Foundation Aid and related spending on top of 


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 1    what the Governor originally proposed.

 2                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Okay, thank you.

 3                 Mr. President, if the Senator will 

 4    continue to yield.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 6    sponsor yield?  

 7                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 9    sponsor yields.

10                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you for 

11    that.  

12                 But until we see it in writing -- 

13    and any of these bills, frankly -- you know, at 

14    this point we're on, what, our eighth or ninth 

15    extender here now?  Will we be waiting the 

16    constitutionally required three-day waiting 

17    period to read these bills once they're actually 

18    put in print?  

19                 So I guess would you expect to have 

20    bills in print by Friday or Saturday so that we 

21    could then have that waiting period to review 

22    them and take them up next week?  

23                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   That is very much 

24    my hope.

25                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you.  


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 1                 Mr. President, if the Senator will 

 2    continue to yield.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 4    sponsor yield?  

 5                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 7    sponsor yields.

 8                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Well, that's good 

 9    news, I think.  I hope your hope is correct, 

10    because it would be nice to have the time to 

11    actually go through these bills in a serious and 

12    comprehensive manner and, just as importantly, to 

13    allow the public and a variety of interest groups 

14    to review them and have input back to us on those 

15    as well.

16                 So do you have any sense, Senator, 

17    when we'll see the first budget bills of the 

18    remaining eight put into print?  

19                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   I wish I could 

20    tell you.  I mean, I do know that there's a 

21    continuing pattern throughout every year of the 

22    Legislature, which is you are able to get the 

23    least controversial ones done earliest and get 

24    them out and ready.  

25                 And then the continuing 


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 1    negotiations -- because, clearly, negotiations 

 2    are not done -- on the most controversial end up 

 3    going into the last budget bills, which you'll 

 4    attack me for later when we bring them to the 

 5    floor.  Trust me, I know this game.  And you'll 

 6    go, Why is that issue in a revenue bill?  And 

 7    I'll go, Because we always do the revenue bill 

 8    last.  And you'll go, Why?  Because that's the 

 9    way we do it.  Even though I agree we shouldn't, 

10    and the last topics that finally get resolved go 

11    into the last two big bills.  

12                 So it is quite possible we could 

13    have some bills done fairly quickly, but they 

14    won't be the controversial ones with all the 

15    things we want to know about, because those will 

16    be the later ones.

17                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

18    Senator.

19                 Mr. President, if the Senator will 

20    continue to yield.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

22    sponsor yield? 

23                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Absolutely.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

25    sponsor yields.


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 1                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Have there been 

 2    table targets issued yet for the general joint 

 3    conference committees to get together on?  

 4                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes, we have 

 5    table targets that add up to $375 million.  

 6                 I am not aware that there is a 

 7    schedule yet of discussions.  But I can read 

 8    you -- I hope I can read this gentleman's 

 9    handwriting:  

10                 Fifteen million for economic 

11    development.  An additional 80 million for lower 

12    education, pre-K through 12, separate from that 

13    140 I already told you about.  Fifteen million 

14    for -- (off the record) -- 15 million for 

15    environment, agriculture, housing.  Twenty 

16    million for general government/local government.  

17    Forty-five million for health.  Thirty million 

18    for higher ed.  One hundred 10 million for human 

19    services/labor.  Ten million for mental hygiene.  

20    Forty-five million for public protection.  Five 

21    million for transportation.  

22                 Totaling 375 million for table 

23    targets.

24                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you.  

25                 Mr. President, if the Senator will 


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 1    continue to yield.  

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 3    sponsor yield?

 4                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Yes, I will.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.

 7                 SENATOR O'MARA:   So I guess if -- 

 8    one of those that's certainly always a target of 

 9    mine is our local roads, CHIPS funding and other 

10    programs.  But you just mentioned an additional 

11    5 million towards that.  That $5 million, just 

12    for everybody at home watching, is still a lot of 

13    money, but in a $254 billion budget it seems to 

14    be a little -- a very low priority.

15                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   With respect, I 

16    should have said this earlier.  The table target 

17    monies are operating funds.  CHIPS would be a 

18    capital program.  

19                 So none of these items would include 

20    CHIPS or other capital expenses.  Capital is 

21    being negotiated separately, still not complete.  

22    And I think both sides of this room have 

23    supported increases in CHIPS capital money.

24                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Good to hear.

25                 Thank you, Mr. President.  That's 


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 1    all I have.  

 2                 Thank you, Senator.

 3                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  Thank 

 4    you.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Are there 

 6    any other Senators wishing to be heard?

 7                 Hearing and seeing none, debate is 

 8    now closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

 9                 Read the last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 13.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 713, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Borrello, Lanza, Ortt and Weik.

20                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 4.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

24    reading of the controversial calendar.

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 


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 1    Mr. President.

 2                 Let me take a moment to recognize a 

 3    former colleague who is in the chamber with us.  

 4    From the Flower City of Rochester, Senator Rick 

 5    Dollinger is with us today.  

 6                 Let's welcome him.

 7                 (Applause.)

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I believe that's 

 9    your district that he's -- 

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Many good 

11    things come out of the 56th Senate District.

12                 (Laughter.)

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Now recognize 

14    Senator Weber for an introduction, please.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

16    Weber for an introduction.

17                 SENATOR WEBER:   Thank you, 

18    Mr. President.  

19                 Today is a very great day in Albany.  

20    We have the Rockland Business Association, or the 

21    RBA.  They're a nonprofit organization that has 

22    been serving the business community of Rockland 

23    County in New York since 1967.  

24                 With a mission to educate, inform 

25    and provide beneficial services to members and 


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 1    actively represent, promote and support the 

 2    business community of Rockland County, the RBA 

 3    has played a pivotal role in the growth and 

 4    success of countless businesses in the region.  

 5                 The RBA started with a group of 

 6    40 local business leaders in 1967, and today they 

 7    are 500 businesses strong, ranging from small 

 8    businesses to large corporations.  The RBA offers 

 9    resources and support ranging from financing to 

10    business development training to helping local 

11    new businesses grow.

12                 The RBA also works with local, state 

13    and federal officials to help navigate policies 

14    and regulations that can be cumbersome, 

15    obviously, to new businesses.  

16                 The RBA is not solely committed to 

17    local businesses.  They're heavily involved with 

18    local charities and organizations, including 

19    animal shelters, YMCAs, the Salvation Army 

20    stores, and many more.  In the month of May 

21    alone, the RBA has 11 scheduled events over five 

22    different towns and cities.

23                 Again, I would not be talking about 

24    the RBA today if it were not for Al Samuels.  I 

25    know Al Samuels is someone who is known statewide 


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 1    for his advocacy for businesses and small 

 2    businesses.  For over 40 years he sat as the 

 3    president and CEO of the RBA.

 4                 So, Mr. President, please welcome 

 5    our guests to the Senate here today, and please 

 6    extend them all the courtesies.  

 7                 Thank you.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 9    you, Senator.  

10                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

11    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

12    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

13                 Please rise and be recognized.

14                 (Standing ovation.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

16    Gianaris.

17                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, I 

18    move to adopt the Resolution Calendar, with the 

19    exception of Resolutions 827 and 835.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   All those 

21    in favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar, 

22    with the exception of Resolutions 827 and 835, 

23    please signify by saying aye.

24                 (Response of "Aye.")

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Opposed, 


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 1    nay.

 2                 (No response.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 4    Resolution Calendar is adopted.

 5                 Senator Gianaris.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Now let's take 

 7    up previously adopted Resolution 28, by 

 8    Senator Sepúlveda, read its title, and recognize 

 9    Senator Sepúlveda.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

11    Secretary will read.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 28, by 

13    Senator Sepúlveda, memorializing Governor 

14    Kathy Hochul to proclaim April 2025 as 

15    Workplace Violence Prevention Month in the 

16    State of New York.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

18    Sepúlveda on the resolution.

19                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Thank you, 

20    Mr. President, for allowing me to speak on this 

21    resolution.

22                 Today I would like to recognize 

23    Dr. Kurien Mathews from the New York American 

24    College of Emergency Physicians, as well as 

25    Marilyn Dollinger, Louis Calderon, and 


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 1    Diana Rodriguez from the American Nurses 

 2    Association of New York, who are here today to 

 3    highlight the importance of proclaiming April as 

 4    Workplace Violence Prevention Month in the State 

 5    of New York.

 6                 Every day we see news reports 

 7    highlighting the growing instances of violence in 

 8    our emergency departments.  This is not just a 

 9    series of isolated events.  It is a harsh reality 

10    that these departments face regularly.

11                 It is troubling that the dedicated 

12    staff are subjected to being slapped, kicked, 

13    pummeled, punched, or had their lives threatened.  

14    This should not be the norm.

15                 According to surveys by the American 

16    College of Emergency Physicians and the Emergency 

17    Nurses Association, almost half of the emergency 

18    physicians report being physically assaulted at 

19    work, and about 70 percent of emergency room 

20    nurses report being hit and kicked while on the 

21    job.

22                 These instances of violence are 

23    unacceptable and continue to contribute to the 

24    ongoing crisis in New York hospitals.  The issue 

25    not only hardens those who work in our emergency 


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 1    departments; it threatens every patient who walks 

 2    in the door.  It threatens our doctors, our 

 3    nurses, and our support staff, each one of whom 

 4    deserves better.  Everyone is entitled to a safe 

 5    workplace environment.

 6                 Proclaiming April as Workplace 

 7    Violence Prevention Month in the State of 

 8    New York is only the first step to recognizing 

 9    this issue and working to make the emergency room 

10    departments safer for our patients and staff, 

11    those who care for them on a daily basis.

12                 Let's create a future where our 

13    healthcare heroes work in peace and safety and 

14    every patient receives care in a secure 

15    environment.  

16                 Thank you.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

18    you, Senator Sepúlveda.

19                 Senator Sepúlveda, do you have 

20    guests here with us today?  

21                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   I'd like to 

22    recognize as our guests Dr. Kurien Mathews, 

23    Marilyn Dollinger, Louis Calderon, and 

24    Diana Rodriguez.  

25                 Thank you, Mr. President.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 2    you, Senator.

 3                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

 4    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

 5    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

 6                 Please rise and be recognized.

 7                 (Standing ovation.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 9    resolution was adopted on January 14th.

10                 Senator Gianaris.

11                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

12    please take up Resolution 827, by Senator Comrie, 

13    read that resolution's title, and recognize 

14    Senator Comrie.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

16    Secretary will read.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 827, by 

18    Senator Comrie, congratulating Yvonne Reddick 

19    upon the occasion of her retirement as District 

20    Manager after more than 40 years of distinguished 

21    service to Community Board 12.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

23    Comrie on the resolution.  

24                 SENATOR COMRIE:   Thank you, 

25    Mr. President, for allowing me to present this 


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 1    resolution today.  

 2                 Ms. Reddick could not be here today, 

 3    but I wanted to read it into the record because 

 4    she has been serving as district manager -- 

 5    working in Community Board 12 since 1981, and 

 6    district manager since 1989.  

 7                 She's the first female to hold the 

 8    position.  Queens Community Board 12 is the 

 9    largest community board -- second-largest 

10    community board in New York City.

11                 Ms. Reddick has had a vital role in 

12    the development of Jamaica and indeed the 

13    communities of Jamaica.  As a role model and as a 

14    person that was continually fighting to maintain 

15    her community's confidence through so much 

16    change, it reflects her commitment to protecting 

17    and uplifting her constituents and her capacity 

18    to see straight to the heart of people's issues.  

19                 Ms. Reddick was a fierce advocate to 

20    fight to make sure that South Jamaica and 

21    Downtown Jamaica especially was able to get 

22    change.  She fought for everything from the 

23    removal of the J line -- those of you that may 

24    know, the J line used to be an overhead train in 

25    Downtown Jamaica -- fought for the installation 


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 1    of the new Parsons Boulevard and Archer Avenue 

 2    stations, worked to make sure that the 

 3    Long Island Rail Road created the AirTrain, and 

 4    worked also to make sure that York College had 

 5    the opportunity to develop as well.  

 6                 There's not been one part of 

 7    Southeast Queens that hasn't been impacted by the 

 8    advocacy, by the knowledge and resources provided 

 9    by Yvonne Reddick.

10                 I'm honored today we are able to 

11    give her a proper personal proclamation today, 

12    which we'll deliver to her at her home at another 

13    time.  But I just wanted to share with you that 

14    she has been given so many opportunities to pass 

15    on her knowledge.  

16                 The main thing with Yvonne Reddick 

17    is that she liked to share.  She liked to role 

18    model.  She liked to give people an understanding 

19    of the intricacies of government.  She would be 

20    there at every major meeting in the community, 

21    fighting with the administration to ensure that 

22    the things that Community Board 12 needed, the 

23    resources, were given equally and adequately.  

24                 She never failed to reach out to all 

25    of the elected officials to let them know her 


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 1    commitment, her desire to see resources given to 

 2    Downtown Jamaica and Jamaica and the area in a 

 3    major way.

 4                 Back when we were suffering with 

 5    major flooding, she was one of the leaders 

 6    pushing my predecessor in the City Council to 

 7    make sure that there was major funding done to do 

 8    flooding relief in the area, and also to help 

 9    those homeowners that got flooded from 

10    groundwater that wound up in the basement in 

11    their homes.  

12                 Yvonne Reddick has never failed to 

13    take on issues to fight to improve her community, 

14    to fight to share the resources with other 

15    community board managers and other people, to 

16    ensure that people could understand the 

17    intricacies of government, the policies, how 

18    New York City was able to move their budget.  She 

19    is truly a role model and someone that I've been 

20    able to count on as a mentor, as a confidant, and 

21    as a friend.  But, most importantly, as a patron 

22    and a person that this city has depended on for 

23    over 40 years, working on behalf of our 

24    community.  

25                 So I just wanted to take this 


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 1    opportunity.  Thank you, Mr. President, for 

 2    allowing me to talk a little bit about someone 

 3    that has been truly dedicated to the life of 

 4    New York State, improving it for all of its 

 5    residents.  

 6                 And I want to thank Yvonne Reddick 

 7    for her service.

 8                 Thank you, Mr. President.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

10    you, Senator Comrie.

11                 The question is on the resolution.  

12    All in favor signify by saying aye.

13                 (Response of "Aye.")

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Opposed, 

15    nay.

16                 (No response.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

18    resolution is adopted.

19                 Senator Gianaris.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   At the request 

21    of the sponsors, today's resolutions are open for 

22    cosponsorship.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

24    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.  Should 

25    you choose not to be a cosponsor, please notify 


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 1    the desk.

 2                 Senator Gianaris.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's take up 

 4    the calendar, Mr. President.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 6    Secretary will read.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    287, Senate Print 1540, by Senator Jackson, an 

 9    act to amend the Civil Service Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    344, Senate Print 952B, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

24    act to amend the General Obligations Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 


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 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 4    shall have become a law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 344, those Senators voting in the 

12    negative are Senators Ashby, Borrello, 

13    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, 

14    Lanza, Martins, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

15    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Skoufis, Stec, Tedisco, 

16    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.  Also Senators Murray 

17    and Chan.

18                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 23.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 There is a substitution at the desk.

22                 The Secretary will read.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Fernandez 

24    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Crime 

25    Victims, Crime and Correction, Assembly Bill 


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 1    Number 4159A and substitute it for the identical 

 2    Senate Bill 1806A, Third Reading Calendar 380.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 4    substitution is so ordered.  

 5                 The Secretary will read.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    380, Assembly Bill 4159A, by Assemblymember 

 8    Jackson, an act to amend the Correction Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

13    shall have become a law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

18    Fernandez to explain her vote.

19                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you so 

20    much.  

21                 When someone is working to rebuild 

22    their life, hope can be the difference between a 

23    second chance and a lost opportunity.  Peer 

24    advocates bring that hope.  They offer trust, 

25    lived experience, and a hand to hold for those 


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 1    still behind bars.  

 2                 But too often they are turned away 

 3    because of their past.  Whether you have hired 

 4    anyone or even applied to a job, I think we can 

 5    all agree that a candidate's past experience 

 6    should weigh heavily on their ability to do the 

 7    job.  That is true for virtually every job out 

 8    there -- except this one. 

 9                 In fact, peer advocates are rejected 

10    for the very experience required for their role.  

11    I believe that when legislators have the rare 

12    opportunity to fix glaring holes in the system, 

13    they must take swift action.  If we do not act, 

14    people will suffer.  That is what this bill does, 

15    and that is what we are here to fight for.  

16                 The bill corrects this injustice.  

17    It ensures that certified or licensed peer 

18    advocates cannot be barred from providing support 

19    in correctional facilities simply because they 

20    were incarcerated themselves.  We know that peer 

21    support strengthens recovery, it reduces 

22    recidivism, and prepares people to reenter our 

23    communities with dignity and purpose.  

24                 Their service reminds us that no one 

25    is defined by the worst chapter of their life.  


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 1    By passing this bill we stand for redemption, for 

 2    recovery, and for the belief that change is 

 3    always possible.  

 4                 I urge my colleagues to please 

 5    support this legislation.  Thank you.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 7    Fernandez to be recorded in the affirmative.

 8                 Announce the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 380, those Senators voting in the 

11    negative are Senators Chan, Helming, Ortt, Stec, 

12    Walczyk and Weik.

13                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 6.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    502, Senate Print 2295, by Senator Bailey, an act 

18    to amend the Executive Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

23    shall have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

25    roll.


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 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    568, Senate Print 2484, by Senator Parker, an act 

 9    in relation to directing the State Energy 

10    Planning Board to conduct a study on the time 

11    frames for replacing or upgrading battery energy 

12    storage systems.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

14    last section.  

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 568, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators Griffo, Martins, Ortt and Walczyk.

25                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 4.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    597, Senate Print 6244, by Senator Skoufis, an 

 5    act to amend the Executive Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

15    Skoufis to explain his vote.

16                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Thank you very 

17    much, Mr. President, for allowing me to explain 

18    my vote.

19                 I want to express my gratitude to 

20    colleagues for supporting this bill for I believe 

21    the third session in a row now.  This is the 

22    "Lieutenant Joseph Banish Mental Health Act."  

23                 And as we all know, our police 

24    officers throughout the state have at times 

25    incredibly dangerous jobs and missions that they 


                                                               2206

 1    report to every day.  And some days there is 

 2    trauma associated with those tasks that they 

 3    undertake.  

 4                 And as most first responders could 

 5    attest, there is a brotherhood and a sisterhood 

 6    that develops in this profession whereby one is 

 7    comfortable after these traumatic events -- one 

 8    is more comfortable speaking with their peer in 

 9    the profession than going out and seeking 

10    professional mental health support for some 

11    individuals.

12                 And so what this bill does is it 

13    establishes a peer-to-peer support program within 

14    the profession and, importantly, provides for the 

15    same confidentiality of those conversations 

16    that's offered if and when that individual would 

17    otherwise go and seek a professional psychiatrist 

18    or psychologist or other mental health 

19    professional.

20                 And so the hope is, the desire here 

21    is that we can save lives, save individuals from 

22    taking their own life and inflicting harm on 

23    themselves and certainly make sure that they get 

24    the mental health support that they need by 

25    ensuring that the conversations that they can 


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 1    have with these certified peer-to-peer support 

 2    specialists remain confidential and offers them 

 3    that space to have those discussions.

 4                 Thank you very much, Mr. President.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 6    Skoufis to be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                 Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to 

 8    explain her vote.

 9                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

10    Thank you, Mr. President.

11                 I want to thank the sponsor for 

12    bringing this legislation to the floor.  As of 

13    earlier this month, six police officers in 

14    New York State have committed suicide, three of 

15    whom were from Long Island.  According to 

16    Blue Health, New York State leads the nation in 

17    suicides by first responders.  That's not a 

18    statistic I want us to have.  

19                 I pray that the number does not 

20    continue to grow during this year.  We've seen 

21    tremendous success with peer support groups for 

22    our veterans through the Dwyer Peer Support Group 

23    because, as was stated, your peers know better 

24    than anybody what you're going through.  

25                 It's my hope that we'll see this 


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 1    legislation quickly signed into action, because 

 2    we don't need to lose any more first responders.  

 3                 Thank you, Mr. President.  I proudly 

 4    vote aye.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 6    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick in the affirmative.

 7                 Announce the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    636, Senate Print 5278, by Senator Sepúlveda, an 

13    act to amend the Surrogate's Court Procedure Act.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

18    shall have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 636, those Senators voting in the 


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 1    negative are Senators Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, 

 2    Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, Oberacker, 

 3    O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

 4    Weber and Weik.  Also Senator Martins.

 5                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 17.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    664, Senate Print 4722, by Senator Fahy, an act 

10    to amend the Arts and Cultural Affairs Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 

15    shall have become a law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 664, those Senators voting in the 

23    negative are Senators Borrello, 

24    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

25    Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, Murray, 


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 1    Oberacker, O'Mara, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and 

 2    Weik.

 3                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 16.

 4                 Oh, excuse me.  Also Senator Rhoads.

 5                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 17.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 There is a substitution at the desk, 

 9    and the Secretary will read.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Hinchey 

11    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

12    Assembly Bill Number 355C and substitute it for 

13    the identical Senate Bill 1718C, Third Reading 

14    Calendar 682.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY: 

16    Substitution so ordered.

17                 The Secretary will read.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    682, Assembly Bill Number 355C, by 

20    Assemblymember Barrett, an act to amend the 

21    Real Property Tax Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 682, voting in the negative are 

 8    Senators Ashby, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Lanza, 

 9    Martins, Mattera, Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, Skoufis, 

10    Walczyk and Weik.  Also Senator Stec.

11                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 12.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 There is a substitution at the desk.  

15                 The Secretary will read.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator S. Ryan 

17    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

18    Assembly Bill Number 6770 and substitute it for 

19    the identical Senate Bill 7285, Third Reading 

20    Calendar 683.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY: 

22    Substitution so ordered.

23                 The Secretary will read.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    683, Assembly Bill Number 6770, by 


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 1    Assemblymember Griffin, an act to amend the 

 2    Real Property Tax Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 4    last section.  

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

 6    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 7    shall have become a law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

12    the results.  

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 683, voting in the negative are 

15    Senators Walczyk and Weik.

16                 Ayes, 59.  Nays, 2.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

20    reading of today's calendar.

21                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Before we 

22    adjourn, Mr. President, let me remind my 

23    colleagues there will be an immediate meeting of 

24    the Cities 1 Committee in Room 124, and also a 

25    Majority conference in the Majority Conference 


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 1    Room.

 2                 With that, is there any further 

 3    business at the desk?

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   So there 

 5    will be an immediate meeting of the Cities 1 

 6    Committee in Room 124.  

 7                 And there is no further business at 

 8    the desk.

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   In that case, I 

10    move to adjourn until tomorrow, Wednesday, 

11    April 30th, at 11:00 a.m.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   On 

13    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

14    Wednesday, April 30th, at 11:00 a.m.

15                 (Whereupon, at 12:18 p.m., the 

16    Senate adjourned.)

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