Regular Session - May 13, 2025

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    May 13, 2025

11                      3:43 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR SHELLEY B. MAYER, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The Senate 

 3    will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone present to please 

 5    rise and recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 9    Reverend Joy Howard, executive pastor at 

10    Sweet Pilgrim Missionary Baptist Church here in 

11    Albany, New York, will deliver's invocation.  

12                 Reverend.

13                 REVEREND HOWARD:   Most holy and 

14    gracious Father.  First and foremost, God, we 

15    want to thank You for giving us this beautiful 

16    day.  

17                 O God, we thank You for allowing us 

18    to gather, O God, in this chamber, O God.  

19                 Lord God, I thank You for an 

20    opportunity, O God, to just put this blessing 

21    upon today's session.  

22                 Lord God, we thank You for the Women 

23    of Distinction, O God.  We thank You for this 

24    space that will allow women to be highlighted, 

25    O God, as pillars of strength and love through 


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 1    their community.  

 2                 Lord God, we thank You for what will 

 3    take place.  We pray right now in the name of 

 4    Jesus that You'll continue to reign on us with 

 5    Your peace and Your love and security.  

 6                 And we thank You, O God, for how You 

 7    allow today's session to be a blessing to all 

 8    those throughout our state, O God.  

 9                 We thank You for this session.  We 

10    thank you for the Senators, O God.  We thank You 

11    for the decisions that are made.  We thank You 

12    right now that You are in command of all of it, 

13    that You have orchestrated this day.  

14                 It is in Jesus' name I pray, amen.

15                 (Response of "Amen.")

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Reading of 

17    the Journal.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

19    May 12, 2025, the Senate met pursuant to 

20    adjournment.  The Journal of Friday, May 9, 2025, 

21    was read and approved.  On motion, the Senate 

22    adjourned.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Without 

24    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

25                 Presentation of petitions.


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 1                 Messages from the Assembly.

 2                 The Secretary will read.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Jackson 

 4    moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 5    Civil Service and Pensions, Assembly Bill 

 6    Number 2123A and substitute it for the identical 

 7    Senate Bill 1165A, Third Reading Calendar 554.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   So 

 9    ordered.

10                 Messages from the Governor.

11                 Reports of standing committees.

12                 Reports of select committees.

13                 Communications and reports from 

14    state officers.

15                 Motions and resolutions.

16                 Senator Liu.

17                 SENATOR LIU:   I move to adopt the 

18    Resolution Calendar, with the exception of 

19    Resolution 989.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   All those 

21    in favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar, 

22    with the exception of Resolution 989, please 

23    signify by saying aye.

24                 (Response of "Aye.")

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 


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 1    nay.

 2                 (No response.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 4    Resolution Calendar is adopted.

 5                 Senator Liu.  

 6                 SENATOR LIU:   Please recognize 

 7    Senator Fernandez for an introduction.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 9    Fernandez for an introduction.

10                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you so 

11    much, Madam President.  

12                 I am honored to give this 

13    introduction in recognition to some dear friends, 

14    advocates and great New Yorkers.  

15                 Today in Albany, with my colleague 

16    in the State Assembly representing the 

17    80th Assembly District, we celebrated Yemeni 

18    Heritage Day, the first time ever we're doing so 

19    in our state's Capitol.  And long overdue, 

20    because for the last 10 years of my career, of 

21    the Bronx's growth, the Yemeni community, 

22    including in Brooklyn, has done amazing things 

23    for New York City.  

24                 And today we have guests from the 

25    community, from the Bronx.  With the Yemeni 


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 1    American Merchants Association, we have 

 2    Zaid Nagi.  And from the Alliance of Yemeni 

 3    American Businesses, we have founders Yahay Obeid 

 4    and Labeb Nasher.

 5                 So I recognize my individuals today 

 6    because this is a stepping stone to again showing 

 7    the growth of New York, the amazing contributions 

 8    of this community to our state and to our 

 9    country, and the potential that exists, the 

10    examples that have been set forward as to how you 

11    can coalesce community, grow businesses, become a 

12    new beacon of economic growth in places like the 

13    Bronx, home of now Little Yemen.  

14                 It's on Google Maps, you will find 

15    it there.  And we're making strides to make sure 

16    that it can be a recognized cultural district.  

17                 But the Yemen community is much like 

18    all of ours, with a lifetime of strength and 

19    strife and fighting for independence and rights.  

20    They have really made their mark in proving to be 

21    a community that has endured but that is 

22    supportive of one another, that has space 

23    struggles but has been able to celebrate great 

24    successes.  

25                 So I am so honored that we have been 


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 1    able to start a new tradition in Albany, and 

 2    thank my friends for coming out here today and I 

 3    hope that we can all welcome them to the floor of 

 4    the chambers.

 5                 Thank you.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

 7    Senator Fernandez.  

 8                 To our guests from the Yemeni 

 9    American community, we welcome you on behalf of 

10    the Senate.  We extend to you the privileges and 

11    courtesies of the house.  We will rise and grant 

12    you courtesies.

13                 (Standing ovation.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

15    Liu.

16                 SENATOR LIU:   Madam President, 

17    please take up Resolution 989, by 

18    Leader Stewart-Cousins, read the resolution in 

19    title only, and recognize Senator Webb.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

21    Secretary will read.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 989, by 

23    Senator Stewart-Cousins, congratulating the 

24    2025 New York State Senate Women of Distinction.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 


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 1    Webb on the resolution.

 2                 SENATOR WEBB:   Thank you, 

 3    Madam President.  

 4                 I rise proudly today, as the chair 

 5    of Women's Issues in the Senate, with the 

 6    distinct honor of recognizing the incredible and 

 7    remarkable women being celebrated as our 

 8    2025 New York State Senate Women of Distinction.  

 9                 Each year this program reminds us of 

10    the extraordinary women whose leadership, service 

11    and accomplishments have not only elevated our 

12    communities but have enriched the fabric of life 

13    across our great state.

14                 Since its creation in 1998, the 

15    Women of Distinction program has stood as a 

16    beacon shining a light on women whose work may 

17    too often, quite frankly, go unrecognized.  But 

18    they do the work because they genuinely care 

19    about our communities.  And their impact is 

20    deeply felt by all who have had the privilege to 

21    know them.

22                 Our honorees come from every region 

23    of our great state, every profession, every walk 

24    of life.  And they bring with them diverse 

25    stories of dedication, compassion and excellence.  


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 1    They are educators, advocates, entrepreneurs, 

 2    caregivers, artists and public servants, and so 

 3    many more titles often that are unpaid, but most 

 4    certainly are impactful.  

 5                 Some are quiet forces for change; 

 6    others are bold trailblazers.  But all of them 

 7    share one essential truth:  They have and 

 8    continue to make a difference.  And they lift up 

 9    others, and they have lifted all of us up.  

10                 At a time when our state and our 

11    nation continue to reckon with issues of equity 

12    and inclusion, and even grappling with even using 

13    the term "women" and writing women out of our 

14    history books, these women show us what 

15    resilience, compassion and true leadership looks 

16    like in human form.

17                 They have broken barriers, redefined 

18    what's possible, and created new pathways so that 

19    all may thrive.

20                 What distinguishes this year's 

21    Women of Distinction cohort is not only their 

22    individual accomplishments, but their unwavering 

23    commitment to the common good.  Whether by 

24    leading grassroots organizations or mentoring the 

25    next generation or advocating for those who are 


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 1    often rendered voiceless, they remind us that 

 2    leadership is not about titles, but in fact it is 

 3    about impact.

 4                 So today let us not only celebrate 

 5    these women, let us learn from them.  Let us 

 6    carry their stories and their lessons into the 

 7    work that we do right here in this chamber.  And 

 8    let us ensure that their examples continue to 

 9    inspire future generations of women and girls 

10    across the Empire State.

11                 I proudly vote aye.  

12                 And also now, Madam President, it is 

13    my privilege and honor, personal honor, to 

14    recognize an extraordinary woman from my 

15    district, Ms. Denise Castalia Dendtler Lee, also 

16    known as Ms. Lee, as the 2025 Woman of 

17    Distinction from Senate District 52.  

18                 She is a proud graduate of 

19    Cornell University, Class of 1973, where she 

20    earned a bachelor's of science in child 

21    development and family studies.  And her journey 

22    didn't stop there.  She went on and continued her 

23    education, earning several other master's 

24    degrees.  

25                 And her learning was not confined to 


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 1    a classroom, nor her teaching.  For nearly 

 2    50 years, Ms. Lee has poured her heart and soul 

 3    into the children of the Ithaca City School 

 4    District, where she began her career at Central 

 5    Elementary School, now Beverly J. Martin 

 6    Elementary School, and has served in numerous 

 7    capacities across the district.  

 8                 Her presence in the classroom has 

 9    been one of excellence, stability, compassion and 

10    a beacon for a generation of students.  She has 

11    earned countless honors, including the New York 

12    State African Studies Association Educator's 

13    Award, the Africana Studies Center Cornell 

14    University Recognition Award, the Tompkins County 

15    Human Rights Commission Honor, and most recently 

16    her image was entered into a mural at Beverly J. 

17    Martin Elementary School, a permanent and 

18    well-deserved tribute to her legacy.  

19                 Ms. Lee is also a proud member, like 

20    myself, of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc., and 

21    the Eastern Stars of New York, an organization -- 

22    both organizations are rooted in service, 

23    leadership and sisterhood.

24                 Lastly, Madam President, Ms. Lee 

25    lives by the principles of "each one teach one" 


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 1    and "reach back and pull someone up."  And she is 

 2    the very embodiment of those ideals.  Her life 

 3    and work remind us that when one person commits 

 4    themselves to fully servicing others, they can 

 5    transform the community.

 6                 Please join me in applauding Ms. Lee 

 7    and all of our 2025 Women of Distinction honorees 

 8    for their lifelong commitment and continued 

 9    efforts to make our state better.  They are all 

10    shining examples of what it means to lead with 

11    love, strength, and purpose.

12                 Thank you, Madam President.

13                 (Applause.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you 

15    so much, Senator Webb.

16                 Senator Helming on the resolution.

17                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

18    Madam President.  

19                 As I have the honor of standing up 

20    today to celebrate Women of Distinction from 

21    across our state, I can't help but think that all 

22    of us are here because at some point in our 

23    history a brave woman stood up.

24                 I've talked often about Susan B. 

25    Anthony, who stood up for the women's voting 


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 1    rights.  Her trial and her subsequent conviction 

 2    of voting illegally as a woman took place in the 

 3    Ontario County Courthouse within my district.  

 4                 Also in my district, 

 5    Elizabeth Blackwell was the first woman in 

 6    America to receive a medical degree.  It was at 

 7    Geneva Medical College, the precursor to 

 8    Hobart and William Smith Colleges, where there is 

 9    now a beautiful bronze statue of Dr. Blackwell.

10                 When I was reading about 

11    Dr. Blackwell, some of the historians had written 

12    that Elizabeth Blackwell's acceptance letter was 

13    intended as a joke.  But guess who had the last 

14    laugh?  Dr. Blackwell.  She became a pioneer in 

15    preventive medicine and forged the path for women 

16    in medicine.

17                 Also in my district, a little bit 

18    down the road from the Ontario County Courthouse, 

19    in Dansville, Livingston County, Clara Barton 

20    founded the American Red Cross.  During the 

21    Civil War, Clara was one of the first volunteers 

22    to care for wounded soldiers.  She earned the 

23    nickname "Angel of the Battlefield" for risking 

24    her life to deliver supplies and support to 

25    soldiers on the field.


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 1                 My honoree this year is Karen Dewar, 

 2    and she named Clara Barton one of her 

 3    inspirations.  Karen is the director of emergency 

 4    medical services for Livingston County.  She said 

 5    her longtime career as both an RN and an EMT was 

 6    also inspired by her mother, who was one of the 

 7    first female EMTs in the Geneseo Fire Department.  

 8                 As I mention these firsts, I think 

 9    we should all recognize that we don't have to 

10    look into the history books for examples of women 

11    breaking ground or shattering those glass 

12    ceilings.  Sometimes we just need to look right 

13    around us.

14                 At a press conference I held last 

15    Friday, I stood with two women who recently made 

16    history in my district:  Christine Callanan, the 

17    first woman elected district attorney in 

18    Wayne County, and Ashley Williams, the first 

19    woman elected district attorney in 

20    Livingston County.  

21                 And as cool as it is to make 

22    history, these women, past and present, I've 

23    mentioned today, they didn't seek to make 

24    history.  They sought to make a difference.  And 

25    I think the same is true for this year's Women of 


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 1    Distinction.  

 2                 We celebrate them and we celebrate 

 3    all women making a difference in our communities, 

 4    inspiring all of us and the next generation of 

 5    female leaders in our state.  Excelsior -- ever 

 6    upward!  New York's motto and the spirit that's 

 7    embodied by each of this year's honorees.  

 8                 So in closing, Madam President, we 

 9    are all here -- women especially, but men too -- 

10    because throughout our history, and indeed every 

11    single day, women are standing up.  And guess 

12    what?  We have no plans to sit down.  

13                 (Laughter.)

14                 SENATOR HELMING:   Yup.  On behalf 

15    of our Republican Conference, thank you, and 

16    congratulations to all of our Women of 

17    Distinction honorees.

18                 Madam President, I proudly support 

19    this resolution.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

21    Senator Helming.

22                 To our guests, the many Women of 

23    Distinction honored by the Senate this year, we 

24    welcome you on behalf of the Senate.  We extend 

25    to you the privileges and courtesies of the 


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 1    house.  

 2                 Please rise and be recognized.

 3                 (Extended standing ovation.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 5    question is on the resolution.  All those in 

 6    favor please signify by saying aye.

 7                 (Response of "Aye.")

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

 9    nay.

10                 (No response.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

12    resolution is adopted.

13                 Senator Liu.

14                 SENATOR LIU:   Madam President, a 

15    special guest has joined us today:  Former 

16    Senator Betty Little.  

17                 Please welcome Senator Little back 

18    to the chamber.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

20    Little, please rise and be recognized.

21                 (Standing ovation.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

23    Senator Little.  A wonderful colleague.  We're so 

24    pleased to have you back.  Thank you for joining 

25    us today.


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 1                 Senator Liu.

 2                 SENATOR LIU:   Madam President, 

 3    please call on Senator May for an introduction.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 5    May for an introduction.

 6                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

 7    Madam President.  

 8                 About 25 years ago I started having 

 9    a bunch of worrisome symptoms, including 

10    headaches and joint aches and trouble sleeping 

11    and occasionally fuzziness in my head.  And 

12    doctors had no idea what to make of it.  But 

13    eventually the diagnosis coalesced into a single 

14    diagnosis called fibromyalgia.  

15                 Many people suffer from 

16    fibromyalgia.  I'm fortunate that mine seems to 

17    be in remission.  But a lot of people experience 

18    fibromyalgia as a chronic illness.  

19                 Because most people who suffer from 

20    fibromyalgia are women of a certain age, for a 

21    very long time doctors would tell us it was all 

22    in our minds, they would dismiss these symptoms.  

23                 But that is no longer true because 

24    of the work of organizations like the 

25    Fibromyalgia Task Force of New York State.  They 


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 1    have been working for years to raise awareness 

 2    about fibromyalgia and to promote treatments and 

 3    cures for it, including working toward the vision 

 4    of creating a Center of Excellence for 

 5    Fibromyalgia here in the Capital District.

 6                 We are joined by six people from the 

 7    Fibromyalgia Task Force.  Because we're so rich 

 8    in guests right now, they are not in the chamber, 

 9    they're out in the lobby.  But I want to 

10    introduce them in any case.  

11                 Dr. Sue Shipe, Mr. Brian Hart, 

12    Ms. Erica Shipe, Ms. Lisa Nelson, Ms. Minda 

13    Conroe, and Ms. Julia Valentine.  And I hope that 

14    we can at least acknowledge the important work 

15    that they do.

16                 Thank you.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

18    you, Senator May.  

19                 So that they can hear us out in the 

20    lobby, we'll give them a roaring round of 

21    applause.

22                 (Standing ovation.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

24    Liu.  

25                 SENATOR LIU:   Mr. President, please 


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 1    recognize Senator Webb for an introduction.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 3    Webb for an introduction.

 4                 SENATOR WEBB:   Thank you, 

 5    Mr. President.

 6                 I rise proudly again.  And if folks 

 7    are wondering why there's a lot of red in the 

 8    chamber today, it is because today is Delta Day 

 9    here in the Capitol.  And I'm so elated because 

10    my sorority, Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc., is 

11    here advocating and continuing the great work 

12    that we do as an organization internationally and 

13    nationally.  

14                 And so a little bit about Delta and 

15    my special guests that are here today.  For those 

16    who may not be familiar with our great sorority, 

17    founded in 1913 by 22 visionary women on the 

18    campus of Howard University, Delta Sigma Theta 

19    Sorority, Inc., has committed itself to promoting 

20    academic excellence, providing scholarships, 

21    supporting the underserved, and actively 

22    participating in the establishment of positive 

23    public policy.  

24                 Their relentless dedication to 

25    educating and promoting participation in our 


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 1    democracy and addressing community issues through 

 2    thoughtful solutions has been instrumental and 

 3    continues to be instrumental in fostering social 

 4    change.

 5                 The annual Delta Days, which was 

 6    established by the National Social Action 

 7    Commission in 1989, symbolizes the sorority's 

 8    proactive engagement in the national public 

 9    policymaking process.  It is a time when members 

10    from across this great state of ours and our 

11    State Capitol gather to underscore the 

12    significance of collective action and civic 

13    engagement in advancing the well-being of our 

14    communities.

15                 With over 350,000 members worldwide, 

16    Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc., implements its 

17    mission through a five-point programmatic thrust 

18    addressing economic development, educational 

19    development, international awareness and 

20    involvement, physical and mental health, and 

21    political awareness and involvement.

22                 The impact of these initiatives is a 

23    testament to the power of unity and dedication in 

24    creating sustainable change.

25                 The legacy of this great 


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 1    organization is also marked by distinguished 

 2    leaders like Dorothy Height, who was a beacon of 

 3    civil rights and whose leadership and advocacy 

 4    has paved the way for future generations.  

 5                 As a member of the Delta Sigma Theta 

 6    Sorority, Inc., I am continually inspired by the 

 7    examples of these dynamic women and countless 

 8    members, including New Yorkers like the late 

 9    United States representative and former New York 

10    State Assemblymember Shirley Chisholm, who have 

11    used their voices and platforms to advocate for 

12    justice and equality.

13                 In recognizing this important day at 

14    the Capitol, it is not only a recognition of the 

15    sorority's past and present achievements, but 

16    also a commitment to future endeavors.  It 

17    reaffirms our dedication to the principles of 

18    service, leadership and advocacy that Delta Sigma 

19    Theta Sorority, Inc., embodies.  

20                 And so in acknowledging my special 

21    guests today and the vital role that they play, 

22    it is my hope that we will continue to work 

23    together to foster community well-being, advocate 

24    for social justice, and empower individuals to 

25    lead and to serve.  


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 1                 And I am profoundly grateful to our 

 2    Senate Majority Leader for her continued support.  

 3                 I thank my colleagues for your 

 4    support of this great organization.  

 5                 Mr. President, please extend the 

 6    privileges of the floor to my distinguished 

 7    guests, the sisters of Delta Sigma Theta 

 8    Sorority, Inc. 

 9                 Thank you.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

11    you, Senator Webb.

12                 To the Deltas, I welcome you on 

13    behalf of our Senate.  We extend to you the 

14    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

15                 Please rise and be recognized.

16                 (Standing ovation.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

18    Liu.

19                 SENATOR LIU:   Mr. President, please 

20    take up previously adopted Resolution 523, by 

21    Senator Fernandez, read the resolution's title 

22    only, and recognize Senator Fernandez.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

24    Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 523, by 


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 1    Senator Fernandez, memorializing Governor Kathy 

 2    Hochul to proclaim May 12-18, 2025, as Prevention 

 3    Week in the State of New York.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 5    Fernandez on the resolution.

 6                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you so 

 7    much, Mr. President.

 8                 Yesterday we passed a bill to make 

 9    May 9th Opioid Awareness Day.  And this week I'm 

10    so proud that we could pass a resolution to 

11    recognize Prevention Week.  

12                 As we know, there is a crisis in 

13    New York with substance use and with overdoses, 

14    and ultimately too many deaths.  And to have this 

15    week is so important because it really stabilizes 

16    the work that we do.  It keeps us aware of what 

17    it is the issue and what we can do, and the many 

18    ways that we can do something to prevent abusive 

19    drug use and to prevent deaths, ultimately.  

20                 Today I was so fortunate to have 

21    a -- I hosted students from all over the state, 

22    from everybody's district.  And these students 

23    are doing just that.  They're coming up here, 

24    they're speaking on behalf of their loved ones, 

25    of people they don't know, but speaking on the 


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 1    crisis -- that is, about how we can prevent 

 2    deaths and overdose.  

 3                 And it was inspiring to hear from my 

 4    colleagues -- thank you for those that came to 

 5    visit the students -- but more so inspiring from 

 6    students that see it themselves, what is 

 7    happening and what we can do and how brave we 

 8    need to be to speak on this topic.

 9                 We spoke of many different moments 

10    in history.  I was mentioning how hard it must 

11    have been for the first conversation to say let's 

12    give clean needles to people that are using so 

13    they don't get diseases and they don't die.  I'm 

14    sure that's still controversial to many people.  

15    But it was an act of bravery and courage at that 

16    moment, to speak up to say that this is a tool 

17    that will keep people alive and it will prevent 

18    diseases from spreading.  

19                 It was another enlightening moment 

20    to talk about ideas of what more we can to 

21    prevent deaths and to prevent abuse.

22                 And I am just so enthralled that we 

23    have young people that see it now, that are 

24    willing to come up here to speak to us and to be 

25    agents of change.  And all of us can be agents of 


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 1    change, whether you are in the fight, doing the 

 2    research and advocating on the cause, or you're 

 3    there for somebody that is struggling after 

 4    losing someone, or you're there to hear someone 

 5    in their time of despair.  

 6                 There are so many ways that we can 

 7    prevent the worst.  And we must take every way, 

 8    whether it's putting out curriculum to have 

 9    education be a part of prevention, letting our 

10    young people know what is out there, what are the 

11    risks, and having systems in place to reduce 

12    harm, to reduce deaths, to stop deaths.  It's all 

13    so important.  

14                 And so I'm so grateful that we are 

15    able to do this in its actual, you know, week -- 

16    sometimes resolutions don't fall on the day that 

17    we do it -- but more grateful for the students 

18    that came up here.  

19                 And please all say hello to them 

20    because they are fires of change, agents of what 

21    we can do.  And I'm grateful for their support 

22    and yours on this resolution to continue to 

23    change the future and to fight the crisis, fight 

24    overdoses, and prevent every single death.

25                 Thank you.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 2    you, Senator Fernandez.  

 3                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

 4    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

 5    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

 6                 Please rise and be recognized.

 7                 (Standing ovation.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 9    resolution was adopted on March 25th.

10                 Senator Liu.

11                 SENATOR LIU:   Mr. President, please 

12    take up previously adopted Resolution 142, by 

13    Senator Gallivan, and read the resolution title 

14    only and recognize Senator Gallivan.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

16    Secretary will read.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 142, by 

18    Senator Gallivan, memorializing Governor Kathy 

19    Hochul to proclaim May 11-17, 2025, as 

20    Police Week in the State of New York.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

22    Gallivan on the resolution.

23                 SENATOR GALLIVAN:   Thank you, 

24    Mr. President.

25                 I very proudly rise today in support 


                                                               3453

 1    of Police Week in New York State and across the 

 2    country.

 3                 As many of you know, my background's 

 4    in law enforcement.  I came from a law 

 5    enforcement family, where so many were willing to 

 6    stand up for their community as so many others 

 7    are across our state and across our nation.

 8                 In 1962, this week was set aside and 

 9    recognized as Police Week in the United States, 

10    as a time to recognize those law enforcement 

11    offers who have lost their lives in the line of 

12    duty.

13                 Many of us attended ceremonies just 

14    last week to recognize officers across New York 

15    State who gave their lives in service to their 

16    fellow New Yorkers.  It's a reminder, of course, 

17    of the dangers police officers face every single 

18    day.

19                 But despite this risk, despite the 

20    challenges of the job, the challenges of our 

21    time, despite the emotional toll they and their 

22    families often face, there are still roughly 

23    900,000 law enforcement officers across New York 

24    State and across the country serving their 

25    communities.


                                                               3454

 1                 Let's take a moment, Mr. President, 

 2    to thank all who serve as we honor and remember 

 3    those who have fallen.

 4                 Thank you.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 6    you, Senator Gallivan.

 7                 Senator Rolison on the resolution.

 8                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Thank you, 

 9    Mr. President.  

10                 And I want to thank my colleague and 

11    retired member of law enforcement, like myself, 

12    Senator Gallivan, to recognize this week.  

13                 And May 15th is actually Police 

14    Officers Memorial Day here in the country.

15                 I want to talk about three 

16    individuals from this state who lost their lives, 

17    going back to 1983 when I was first on the job.  

18                 The very first police officer 

19    funeral I attended was in East Meadow, 

20    Long Island, for PO James Rowley of 

21    NYPD Aviation.  He and his partner were 

22    patrolling the East River and became involved in 

23    a collision with a seaplane out of New Jersey.  

24    They crashed into the Borough of Brooklyn, in the 

25    Red Hook section, and they both lost their lives.


                                                               3455

 1                 I remember going to that funeral 

 2    wide-eyed, wondering what it was going to be 

 3    like.  Of course I saw them on TV as a young man 

 4    growing up.  But to be there in that, quote, 

 5    unquote, sea of blue was something that I have 

 6    never forgotten.  And I have never forgotten 

 7    every single funeral after that.

 8                 And unfortunately, there were many.  

 9    I was assigned to the honor guard unit of the 

10    Town of Poughkeepsie Police Department, and we 

11    traveled the tristate area to pay our respects.  

12    And I will say of course the majority were 

13    members of the NYPD.

14                 I retired in 2008, then three years 

15    later we lost a member of the City of 

16    Poughkeepsie Police Department, where I've lived 

17    for 35 years.  And that's Police Officer John 

18    Falcone, who was killed in the line of duty in a 

19    domestic violence incident by the Poughkeepsie 

20    Train Station right after lunchtime, during the 

21    week.  

22                 And I traveled to Carmel, New York, 

23    in Putnam County, where he grew up, to attend his 

24    funeral.  And again, thousands of the police 

25    officers from the tristate area were there to pay 


                                                               3456

 1    respects to John.  

 2                 And then the last police funeral I 

 3    attended was in 2022, for PO Jason Rivera.  He 

 4    and his partner from the NYPD were killed in the 

 5    line of duty on January 25th of that year, 

 6    responding to a domestic violence incident.  

 7                 And that was in front of 

 8    St. Patrick's Cathedral.  Thousands upon 

 9    thousands of police officers were there.  I 

10    daresay the largest motorcycle escort I have ever 

11    seen in my life -- in the pouring rain.  In the 

12    pouring rain, for Jason Rivera and his family.

13                 And what made that special that day 

14    was that my son Christopher attended that funeral 

15    with me, and the members of the New Castle Police 

16    Department, where he serves as a sergeant.

17                 And in closing, Mr. President, we 

18    honor the members of our law enforcement 

19    community who went out that door to protect us, 

20    who did not come back.  But in that home or that 

21    apartment, behind that door is a family that saw 

22    them leave but did not see them come back.

23                 And we need to pray for the lost.  

24    We also need to pray for the current members of 

25    or our police community who are doing that job.  


                                                               3457

 1    And unfortunately we'll be having this 

 2    conversation again next year during Police Week, 

 3    because we will continue to lose police officers 

 4    in a very, very difficult and dangerous job.  

 5                 So when we think about the members 

 6    that have come to serve and who have not come 

 7    home, let's remember their families, who really 

 8    make a sacrifice for us as a community to give 

 9    their loved ones to our communities to protect 

10    us.

11                 Thank you, Mr. President.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

13    you, Senator.

14                 Senator Borrello on the resolution.

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

16    Mr. President.

17                 I want to thank the sponsor, 

18    Senator Gallivan, for bringing this forward, and 

19    associate myself with his comments and also 

20    Senator Rolison.  

21                 I rise today to recognize and 

22    remember the Genesee County Sheriff's Deputy 

23    Sergeant Thomas Sanfratello, who lost his life 

24    last year while on duty at Batavia Downs with two 

25    unruly patrons.  He succumbed to his injuries 


                                                               3458

 1    from that fight.  

 2                 This is a dangerous job, folks, and 

 3    it gets more and more dangerous, not less.  We 

 4    need to remember that.  Less and less people want 

 5    to do this job as a result.  We need people in 

 6    law enforcement.  And today we recognize those 

 7    who lost their lives and gave their lives to 

 8    protect others.  

 9                 God bless Sergeant Sanfratello and 

10    all who serve.

11                 Thank you, Mr. President.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

13    you, Senator.

14                 Senator Chan on the resolution.

15                 SENATOR CHAN:   Thank you, 

16    Mr. President.

17                 Having been a police officer and a 

18    police supervisor for 27 years myself, I've 

19    experienced many, many -- too many -- wakes and 

20    funerals of my fellow officers.  

21                 The last one to hit home really, 

22    really hard -- and I got up close and personal to 

23    it, very personal, was Detective Wenjian Liu of 

24    the NYPD about 10 years ago, when he was 

25    assassinated along with his partner, Detective 


                                                               3459

 1    Rafael Ramos.  

 2                 In the first hours after his 

 3    assassination, I was in Detective Wenjian Liu's 

 4    house with his parents.  Subsequently I spent 

 5    weeks, months and years with those two folks, 

 6    those two fine folks.  And even today, just last 

 7    week, I represented them, the family of Detective 

 8    Wenjian Liu, in attending our memorial service 

 9    for the police officers here.

10                 In the first days after he died, I 

11    was the one -- and nobody knows this, I was the 

12    one that brought food to his family every day.  

13    But, you know what, nobody can eat it.  I can't 

14    remember the Lius eating a single bite of food 

15    for 10 days, 15 days.  I had to make them eat it.  

16                 I saw his wife, his widow, his 

17    parents losing their only kid.  And that one hit 

18    home especially hard for me, and I've witnessed 

19    dozens.  I was at 9/11.  I lost friends.  I lost 

20    fireman friends as well, other first responders.  

21    But Detective Wenjian Liu really hit home.  

22                 And it is, I guess, a blessing that 

23    modern medicine was able to bring a child to his 

24    family after his death.  And today I watch 

25    Angelina grow up, and I'm just in awe every day 


                                                               3460

 1    in contact with the family.  And they come up 

 2    here often too, Mr. and Mrs. Liu.  

 3                 So I want to thank Senator Gallivan 

 4    for bringing forth this resolution.  I want to 

 5    thank Senator Rolison and Senator Borrello for 

 6    speaking on behalf, in support.  And I support 

 7    this resolution.

 8                 Thank you very much.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

10    you, Senator.

11                 Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick on the 

12    resolution.

13                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:  

14    Thank you, Mr. President.

15                 I'd like to thank the sponsor for 

16    bringing this resolution to the floor.  Because 

17    as you said, it's important that we stop and 

18    think about those who have given the ultimate 

19    sacrifice for our well-being.  

20                 I want to just remember 

21    Officer Steven McDonald, who lived in my district 

22    and was a dear friend.  He was shot, paralyzed, 

23    and lived for 30 years as a paraplegic in a 

24    wheelchair.  

25                 He made such great use of his 


                                                               3461

 1    30 years after he was shot, preaching 

 2    forgiveness, preaching for -- and speaking to 

 3    many police officers about suicide, and making 

 4    sure that they knew that if their worst day was 

 5    getting them down, to think of him and to have 

 6    hope that there is purpose in your life and to 

 7    continue and not to succumb to those thoughts.

 8                 What I think is even more remarkable 

 9    is that his son, Conor McDonald, even though he 

10    watched his dad and only knew his dad in that 

11    wheelchair, became an NYPD officer and is now a 

12    captain.  And he's also my constituent and a dear 

13    friend.

14                 The McDonald family is truly 

15    inspirational and shows us what you can do in the 

16    face of great adversity, and continue to give 

17    service to your community.  And they have never 

18    lost their faith to know that there was purpose 

19    in what they had to deal with.  And they've 

20    always been somebody that inspires me to 

21    continue.

22                 So thank you, Mr. President, for 

23    allowing me to speak about the McDonald family.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

25    you, Senator.


                                                               3462

 1                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton on the 

 2    resolution.

 3                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

 4    you, Mr. President.  

 5                 And thank you, Senator Gallivan, for 

 6    introducing this important resolution in support 

 7    of National Police Week.

 8                 You know, just last week so many of 

 9    us were at the Police Memorial.  I have the honor 

10    and privilege of speaking at that memorial every 

11    year on behalf of the Senate.  

12                 And I always make sure that when I 

13    look out, I look at the families' faces.  I think 

14    one year we saw a woman there who lost her 

15    husband in a line-of-duty accident who was about 

16    nine months' pregnant at the memorial.

17                 It's devastating to see the impacts 

18    on these families.  And this is a really hard 

19    job.  I have family who are in the NYPD.  And 

20    whether it's 9/11-related illnesses, line-of-duty 

21    deaths or just accidents, we want to make sure 

22    that we always honor their service.  

23                 And we actually had, between 

24    accidents and 9/11-related illnesses, 17 names on 

25    the -- that were going up on the memorial last 


                                                               3463

 1    week from on or around my district.  Both Senator 

 2    Lanza and I, I think, probably share a lot of 

 3    constituents who went up on that wall.

 4                 Most importantly, I'd like to 

 5    mention Port Authority Police Officer 

 6    Anthony Varvaro, who was killed by a wrong-way 

 7    driver while he was on his way to work.  Every 

 8    single one of you were so incredibly instrumental 

 9    in helping to get his family the benefits that 

10    they deserve last year.  

11                 And I looked out and I got to see 

12    his widow, who has four children that he left 

13    behind, and they are really a testament of 

14    strength and what an NYPD family looks like.  

15                 So thank you, and I proudly vote 

16    aye.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

18    you, Senator.

19                 The resolution was adopted on 

20    January 14th.

21                 Senator Liu.

22                 SENATOR LIU:   Mr. President, please 

23    take up previously adopted Resolution 106, by 

24    Senator Persaud, read the resolution title only, 

25    and recognize Senator Persaud.


                                                               3464

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 2    Secretary will read.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 106, by 

 4    Senator Persaud, memorializing Governor Kathy 

 5    Hochul to proclaim May 12-18, 2025, as Period 

 6    Poverty Awareness Week in the State of New York.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 8    Persaud on the resolution.

 9                 SENATOR PERSAUD:   Thank you, 

10    Mr. President.

11                 This week we will be acknowledging 

12    Period Poverty Awareness Week.  And many of you 

13    have heard me speak of period poverty on this 

14    floor over the past number of years.  And each 

15    year I've been hosting a webinar to inform the 

16    community about what period poverty is and what 

17    we should do.

18                 Too often people are not aware of 

19    period poverty.  Period poverty is something that 

20    happens in the United States and across the 

21    world, but it's something that should not be 

22    happening.  Every day there are people who are in 

23    need of period products, of menstrual products, 

24    who are unable to afford it.  

25                 And because they're unable to afford 


                                                               3465

 1    it, we have students not attending school because 

 2    they can't.  We have people going to school and 

 3    not being able to go out for lunch because they 

 4    have to sit in their seat all day because they're 

 5    afraid if they get up, what may be showing on 

 6    their clothing.

 7                 This is something that should not 

 8    happen.  How do we eliminate period poverty in 

 9    the United States?  We talk about our country 

10    being such a rich country.  We talk about us 

11    being a powerful place for everything.  But we 

12    cannot afford to give people who are in need of 

13    period products the products that they need.  How 

14    sad is that?  

15                 When we look at ourselves we should 

16    be ashamed.  No student should have to stay home 

17    from going to school because they cannot have a 

18    pad or a tampon to use, or a number of them to 

19    use.

20                 Over the years I've had legislation 

21    passed where we've allowed for people who are 

22    incarcerated to have those products because they 

23    too were being denied those products.

24                 Think of it.  Somebody who's locked 

25    away and being told they are -- and I'm going to 


                                                               3466

 1    be graphic -- they are having their menstrual 

 2    cycle and they are being told they cannot be 

 3    given a product to use.  They have to sit in the 

 4    blood that they're sitting in because someone 

 5    thinks that giving them that product means that 

 6    we are giving someone something for free.

 7                 Everyone in here came from a person 

 8    who had to menstruate before they could have us.  

 9    So we should think about that when we try to deny 

10    these products to people.  A menstrual product 

11    should not be denied to anyone.  

12                 I encourage my colleagues in your 

13    districts to have these conversations.  Encourage 

14    people to have period product drives and 

15    distribute them, to look at what I do.  We will 

16    be hosting our webinar tomorrow where we will be 

17    talking about it.  We have young kids who will be 

18    on that webinar talking about their experiences 

19    and why they were unable to attend school.  We 

20    are talking about young people who are sitting 

21    there, they are not going to be playing sports 

22    after school because they cannot, because they do 

23    not have the products.

24                 Encourage people in your communities 

25    to have period product drives, and please 


                                                               3467

 1    distribute them.  Because no one should have to 

 2    curtail activities because they do not have 

 3    access to period products.  Period products 

 4    should be available to everyone in every place 

 5    across this state.  And we should be that 

 6    example.

 7                 Again, we talk of ourselves as being 

 8    a great state, a great country, but we have 

 9    people in our country and in our state that 

10    cannot have a basic item such as a period 

11    product.

12                 Please, think about it.  When you go 

13    to the store this week, just buy a product and 

14    donate it to someone.  Take it to the library and 

15    give it to the library and tell them to give it 

16    to someone who comes in there.  That's all it 

17    takes.  It takes each of us making that decision 

18    to work to eliminate that problem.

19                 Thank you, Mr. President.  I vote 

20    aye.  Thank you.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

22    you, Senator Persaud.

23                 Senator Webb on the resolution.

24                 SENATOR WEBB:   Thank you, 

25    Mr. President.


                                                               3468

 1                 I rise to of course thank 

 2    Senator Persaud for her continued advocacy, and 

 3    most certainly her unapologetic advocacy, for 

 4    this very important issue.  

 5                 As she mentioned, she's always doing 

 6    webinars to lift up just how pervasive this issue 

 7    is.  And it impacts everyone across our great 

 8    state.  And I am incredibly proud of the 

 9    championing that she has done, but also the work 

10    that we've done in this chamber to address and 

11    continue to shine a light on this important 

12    issue.  We have passed several bills in our house 

13    with respect to trying to mitigate or eliminate 

14    period poverty.  

15                 I just wanted to share a couple of 

16    statistics that are relegated to New York to 

17    further underscore the great words that Senator 

18    Persaud shared, and call to action.

19                 For far too many women and girls, 

20    the cost of period supplies creates significant 

21    barriers to attending school, going to work, and 

22    fully participating in their daily lives.  Here 

23    in New York, a month's supply of period products 

24    costs $15.56 -- the highest in the nation.  

25                 People who menstruate in New York 


                                                               3469

 1    will spend, on average, more than $7,282 over the 

 2    course of their lifetime on period products.  And 

 3    we know it's not just about the cost.  We know 

 4    that one in three low-income women in the U.S. 

 5    have either missed school, work or social outings 

 6    due to lack of access to these supplies.  

 7                 This is about making sure that 

 8    people have their basic needs not only met, but 

 9    equitably addressed.

10                 It is far beyond time for us to 

11    eliminate period poverty, the embarrassment that 

12    comes with it, and to ultimately remove resource 

13    barriers that continue to add to this disparity.

14                 I am deeply grateful to 

15    Senator Persaud for bringing forward this 

16    resolution, and I want to encourage all of us to 

17    take a stand for equity to ensure that no woman 

18    or girl or any person who is experiencing their 

19    menstrual cycle here in the State of New York 

20    should ever have to miss school or work because 

21    of period poverty.  

22                 This resolution serves as an 

23    important step towards ending the cycle of stigma 

24    and inaccessibility.  Period poverty is a real 

25    challenge, but together we can make strides to 


                                                               3470

 1    ensure that dignity, equity, fairness for all 

 2    menstruating individuals is achieved.  

 3                 I proudly vote aye, Mr. President.  

 4                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

 5    Senator.

 6                 Senator Hinchey on the resolution.

 7                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

 8    Mr. President.

 9                 I rise to also thank the sponsor of 

10    this resolution for bringing it forward and for, 

11    with just this sheer effort, helping to 

12    destigmatize this conversation.  

13                 I know for me, growing up in high 

14    school, this conversation was an embarrassing 

15    conversation to have.  It was one that people 

16    shied away from actively.  

17                 And I want to take this moment to 

18    actually uplift an organization in my district, 

19    the TMI Project, which is actually a group of 

20    students in Kingston High School who are actively 

21    working not just to destigmatize the conversation 

22    around periods in our communities, but to also 

23    ensure that people have access to the products 

24    that they need.

25                 That is the grassroots work that we 


                                                               3471

 1    are all working to support.  This chamber has 

 2    done, as my colleague has said, has done a lot of 

 3    work in not just repealing things like the 

 4    Pink Tax, which was an additional cost on women 

 5    and people who menstruate, but also making sure 

 6    that these products are available in our schools, 

 7    now in our SUNY system, and hopefully soon in all 

 8    of our public buildings.

 9                 But yet there are still schools that 

10    are not abiding by the 2016 law that we passed in 

11    this chamber almost a decade ago.  We have to 

12    uplift organizations like the TMI Project that we 

13    each have in our districts to make sure that our 

14    schools are actually providing the products that 

15    they need to be providing to everyone who goes 

16    into our school system.

17                 I thank the sponsor again for 

18    bringing forward this resolution, and I thank all 

19    of our colleagues in this chamber for supporting 

20    the bills that we continue to bring forward to 

21    make sure that we can, one, remove the stigma and 

22    make sure that no one has to worry about what the 

23    day may bring, and that they can live a life with 

24    equity and positivity in our communities.

25                 Thank you, Mr. President.


                                                               3472

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 2    you, Senator Hinchey.  

 3                 The resolution was adopted on 

 4    January 14th.

 5                 Before I recognize Senator Liu, let 

 6    me recognize Senator Addabbo, Senator Chan and 

 7    Senator Oberacker, who are all celebrating their 

 8    birthdays today.

 9                 (Applause.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

11    Liu.

12                 SENATOR LIU:   Mr. President, at the 

13    request of the sponsors, the resolutions are open 

14    for cosponsorship.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

16    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.  Should 

17    you choose not to be a cosponsor on a resolution, 

18    please notify the desk.

19                 Senator Liu.

20                 SENATOR LIU:   Mr. President, on 

21    page 36 I offer the following amendments to 

22    Calendar Number 776, Senate Bill Number 7416, and 

23    ask that said bill retain its place on Third 

24    Reading Calendar.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 


                                                               3473

 1    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

 2    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 3                 Senator Liu.

 4                 SENATOR LIU:   Please take up the 

 5    reading of the calendar.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 7    Secretary will read.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    169, Senate Print 871, by Senator Bailey, an act 

10    to amend the Public Housing Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    182, Senate Print 1985, by Senator Harckham, an 

25    act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.


                                                               3474

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 9    Borrello to explain his vote.

10                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

11    Mr. President.

12                 Here's the issue for me.  

13    Unfortunately, thanks to bail reform, we release 

14    the domestic abusers with an appearance ticket.  

15    We're going to seize the weapons.  It sounds like 

16    a good idea.  Except this bill has a flaw, and 

17    that flaw is that the victim's firearm can also 

18    be seized.  

19                 So we're going to release the 

20    criminal and also take the weapon away from the 

21    abused.  That's a problem.  We should just be 

22    putting the criminals in jail where they belong, 

23    not releasing them, and then we don't have to 

24    worry about that.  

25                 So I'll be voting no.  Thank you.


                                                               3475

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 2    Borrello to be recorded in the negative.

 3                 Announce the results.  

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 182, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 7    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, 

 8    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

 9    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

10                 Ayes, 37.  Nays, 20.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    222, Senate Print 161, by Senator Ramos, an act 

15    to amend the Education Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

19    act shall take effect April 1, 2026.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:  In relation to 


                                                               3476

 1    Calendar 222, voting in the negative:  

 2    Senator Walczyk.

 3                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 1.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    254, Senate Print 156, by Senator Salazar, an act 

 8    to amend the Executive Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

17    Salazar to explain her vote.

18                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Thank you, 

19    Mr. President.

20                 In addition to trauma and loss, the 

21    financial impact that a crime can have on 

22    survivors only exacerbates hardship.  From 

23    funeral and burial expenses, lost wages, 

24    healthcare costs, relocation costs for stalking 

25    victims, to the need to replace essential 


                                                               3477

 1    personal property, the monetary burdens can be 

 2    overwhelming and can jeopardize a victim's 

 3    recovery.

 4                 Together we've taken steps to 

 5    provide hundreds of thousands of crime victims 

 6    and survivors with critical support to help 

 7    ensure their long-term health, safety and 

 8    well-being.  

 9                 For example, New York is the only 

10    state in the nation that does not impose a legal 

11    limit on reimbursement for medical bills or 

12    counseling for those who qualify, which ideally 

13    allows survivors to receive that form of support 

14    for as long as they might need it.

15                 However, crime victims still face 

16    obstacles when it comes to victim compensation.  

17    Victims who suffer physical injury or who lose 

18    personal property, for example, as a result of a 

19    crime may be reimbursed for their loss only up to 

20    a total of $2500 under current law.  An arbitrary 

21    cap like this is simply inadequate in the case of 

22    many crime survivors.

23                 Additionally, for the property to be 

24    reimbursable at all under current law, it must be 

25    deemed necessary and essential to the health, 


                                                               3478

 1    safety and welfare of the victim.  This makes it 

 2    difficult for the Office of Victim Services to 

 3    properly compensate these victims, as current law 

 4    does not provide a definition for what that 

 5    constitutes.

 6                 Today, we are once again taking this 

 7    step to increase the compensation that a crime 

 8    survivor could qualify for, and to clarify 

 9    examples of what property could be necessary and 

10    essential for the welfare of a victim.

11                 Thank you to my colleagues for your 

12    support in seeking to provide crime victims and 

13    survivors with tools that they need to recover 

14    and to rebuild their lives.

15                 I vote aye.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

17    Salazar to be recorded in the affirmative.

18                 Announce the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    256, Senate Print --

24                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 


                                                               3479

 1    will be laid aside.  

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    381, Senate Print 2280A, by Senator Webb, an act 

 4    to amend the Executive Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

13    Webb to explain her vote.

14                 SENATOR WEBB:   I rise, 

15    Mr. President, for the last time today.  

16                 (Laughter.)

17                 SENATOR WEBB:   But it's for a very 

18    important reason, to explain my vote with regards 

19    to my legislation that was inspired by the tragic 

20    loss of Gabby Petito and other victims of 

21    domestic violence whose lives would have been 

22    saved by providing law enforcement with a very 

23    important tool that was designed to help them to 

24    identify victims who are most at risk for 

25    intimate partner homicide.  


                                                               3480

 1                 We found the assessment saves lives 

 2    by enabling law enforcement to identify victims 

 3    at high risk of serious injury or, unfortunately, 

 4    death by their intimate partners.  In addition to 

 5    providing a lifesaving tool to law enforcement 

 6    statewide, the legislation ensures that 

 7    victims are empowered with resources to stay safe 

 8    and to help lessen the danger of their health and 

 9    safety.  By focusing on prevention, we can save 

10    the lives of victims before it's too late.

11                 This legislation seeks to reduce 

12    these statistics -- and I'll share a couple right 

13    now.  

14                 According to a report in 2021, of 

15    the estimated 4,970 female victims of murder and 

16    non-negligent manslaughter in 2021, data reported 

17    by law enforcement agencies indicate that 

18    one-third, or 34 percent, were killed by an 

19    intimate partner.  By comparison, about 6 percent 

20    of the 17,970 males murdered that year were 

21    victims of intimate partner homicide.  

22                 This legislation seeks to reduce 

23    these statistics but also, by supporting our law 

24    enforcement officers as they respond to these 

25    calls, the information that they collect is 


                                                               3481

 1    included in a tool that they currently use, which 

 2    is called a domestic incident report.  And it 

 3    includes information about the victim, the 

 4    alleged offender, and the details of the 

 5    incident.

 6                 The officer, when responding, will 

 7    also provide victims with numbers to local 

 8    on-the-ground resources and agency supports with 

 9    regards to addressing domestic violence.  

10                 Based on the assessment, the officer 

11    may also file for an extreme risk protection 

12    order if there is credible information suggesting 

13    a likelihood of serious harm.  

14                 There are other states who have 

15    passed this legislation.  Maryland was one of the 

16    first states in 2005 to establish a statewide 

17    lethality assessment.  Florida and Utah have also 

18    established this as a tool.

19                 And it is my hope that our body and 

20    most certainly in the Assembly -- I want to thank 

21    my Assembly sponsor, Assemblymember Clark, for 

22    advancing this legislation in the Assembly.  

23                 I proudly vote aye, and I encourage 

24    my colleagues to do the same.

25                 And I want to thank our Senate 


                                                               3482

 1    Majority Leader for continuing to lead on 

 2    important issues like this in our body.

 3                 Thank you.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 5    Webb to be recorded in the affirmative.

 6                 Senator Rolison to explain his vote.

 7                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Thank you, 

 8    Mr. President.  

 9                 I want to thank Senator Webb for 

10    bringing this bill back.  This is a commonsense 

11    bill that gives the tools, as Senator Webb has 

12    alluded to, to law enforcement asking these 

13    questions which determine risk, the risk factor 

14    for a victim.  

15                 And I can tell you that when I was 

16    in the county legislature in 2010, 2011, we 

17    actually did this in Dutchess County.  It was a 

18    groundbreaking thing.  A groundbreaking thing.  

19                 And it needs to be done everywhere, 

20    because these questions determine risk that 

21    sometimes victims of domestic violence and 

22    personal intimate violence, they're not thinking 

23    about that.  And when you have the opportunity to 

24    connect a victim with an advocate, to develop a 

25    safety plan -- because ultimately many of these 


                                                               3483

 1    abusers are not going to be held forever, they're 

 2    going to be back in the community, and they can 

 3    victimize and unfortunately terrorize their 

 4    victims.  Which causes trauma, which has a whole 

 5    other effect on someone's life and their family's 

 6    life.  

 7                 And then yes, of course, there are 

 8    the domestic violence homicides that maybe if 

 9    these questions were asked, that victim would 

10    know that they have to make a safety plan and 

11    maybe they actually have to leave to go someplace 

12    safe.

13                 So thank you, Senator Webb, and I 

14    proudly vote aye.  

15                 Thank you, Mr. President.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

17    Rolison to be recorded in the affirmative.

18                 Announce the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    406, Senate Print 2416, by Senator Parker, an act 

24    to amend the Public Service Law.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 


                                                               3484

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 8    Parker to explain his vote.

 9                 SENATOR PARKER:   Thank you, 

10    Mr. President.  

11                 I first want to thank our 

12    illustrious leader, Andrea Stewart-Cousins, and 

13    the staff for putting together this package of 

14    legislation that deals with domestic violence and 

15    intimate partner violence.  A really, really 

16    critical issue.  Oftentimes these kinds of crimes 

17    and -- and -- just against humanity are many 

18    times not even reported.  Right?  And oftentimes 

19    people feel stuck and don't know where to go.  

20                 And so it's important that in our 

21    leadership that we recognize and be the voice for 

22    those who don't have voices.  And many times it's 

23    not necessarily just the physical aspects of the 

24    abuse that are important, it's things like being 

25    able to track and intimidate people.  


                                                               3485

 1                 This particular bill allows folks 

 2    who are in utility contracts or many times phone 

 3    contracts to break those contracts so that their 

 4    abusers cannot continue to track their movements 

 5    and terrorize them.  

 6                 But this also speaks to the fact 

 7    that much of what we have to do still has not 

 8    gone done.  And I really want to use this moment 

 9    to call upon not just the Senate but also the 

10    Assembly and the Governor to bring forth 

11    legislation on coercive control.  I have really 

12    important bills, the first one actually written 

13    in any legislature in the country.  We have still 

14    failed to bring it to the floor here and pass it 

15    and make it law.  

16                 But every single day we have victims 

17    of domestic violence who are not being protected 

18    simply because the abuse they're going through is 

19    not physical but it's mental and psychological 

20    and not necessarily behavioral.  

21                 And so we need to deal with that as 

22    well as legislation I have called the 

23    Phoenix Act, which is a comprehensive bill to 

24    address some of these issues.

25                 So as I'm happy that this bill is 


                                                               3486

 1    coming forward, and I want to thank my colleagues 

 2    for voting aye on it, there's still so much to be 

 3    done.  Let's do coercive control, let's do the 

 4    Phoenix Act.

 5                 Thank you.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 7    Parker to be recorded in the affirmative.

 8                 Announce the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    454, Senate Print 3236A, by Senator Cooney, an 

14    act to amend the Education Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

16    last section.  

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 


                                                               3487

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    467, Senate Print 450, by Senator Hoylman-Sigal, 

 4    an act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 9    shall have become a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 467, voting in the negative are 

17    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

18    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

19    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Palumbo, 

20    Rhoads, Rolison, Skoufis, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

21    Weber and Weik.

22                 Ayes, 35.  Nays, 22.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               3488

 1    479, Senate Print 879A, by Senator May, an act to 

 2    amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

11    May to explain her vote.

12                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

13    Mr. President.

14                 I rise in gratitude to my colleagues 

15    for voting for the Garden Protection Act.  The 

16    reality is that for a lot of us, the most 

17    significant impact we may have on our local 

18    ecosystem has to do with how we manage our lawns 

19    and gardens.  But it's also the case that in many 

20    communities people have very little choice about 

21    what they can do.  

22                 So this simply says that people 

23    should have the right to grow food or to create 

24    pollinator habitat in their yards around their 

25    house, which is something that could be really 


                                                               3489

 1    important for people's food security but also for 

 2    pollinators all across the state.

 3                 So I am proud that we are passing 

 4    this bill, and I vote aye.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 6    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                 Senator Martins to explain his vote.

 8                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

 9    Mr. President.

10                 I'll be voting no on this bill.

11                 You know, I have some deep concerns 

12    about the idea that every person can effectively 

13    plant whatever they want on their front lawn, 

14    their side yards or their rear yards in local 

15    communities.

16                 And I understand the sponsor's will 

17    to have a bill that will preempt local 

18    communities from being able to make those 

19    decisions globally.  But I grew up in a community 

20    that is 40 by 100 and 50 by 100 lots.  And when 

21    you live in close proximity with other people in 

22    houses in our suburban communities and some of 

23    our less-dense urban communities, the reality is 

24    we all have to live together.  

25                 And so we have to allow our local 


                                                               3490

 1    communities and our municipalities the ability to 

 2    determine when there's a nuisance or not.  And 

 3    those decisions are made locally.  And when we 

 4    take those rights away from a municipality to 

 5    maintain a certain order with regard to the 

 6    community, we're doing an injustice to the entire 

 7    community, and we're doing an injustice to the 

 8    members of the community who moved into that 

 9    community expecting that that would be there.

10                 Now, the sponsor has said that each 

11    community can pass laws to regulate that 

12    individually.  But just think about what that 

13    means, Mr. President, when it comes to a 

14    community having to define what can or can't be 

15    planted and how far back from each setback that 

16    has to be.  One person's garden is another 

17    person's tangle, and I'm concerned that we will 

18    be prioritizing one and not the other.  

19                 I'll be voting no.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

21    Martins to be recorded in the negative.

22                 Announce the results.  

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 479, voting in the negative are 

25    Senators Martins, C. Ryan and Walczyk.  


                                                               3491

 1                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 3.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    499, Senate Print 54, by Senator Fernandez, an 

 6    act to amend the Penal Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

15    Fernandez to explain her vote.

16                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you, 

17    Mr. President.

18                 Right now New York law does not 

19    protect people who are sexually assaulted while 

20    voluntarily drunk or high.  Unless they were 

21    drugged without their knowledge, the law says 

22    they could still consent even if they were too 

23    impaired to stand or speak clearly.  

24                 This bill fixes this by saying that 

25    if someone is too intoxicated to consent and a 


                                                               3492

 1    reasonable person should have known, it's still a 

 2    crime.  

 3                 This change helps survivors get the 

 4    justice they deserve.  Justice should not hinge 

 5    on how a survivor became incapacitated.  Our laws 

 6    must reflect that a person who is too impaired to 

 7    consent, regardless of how they arrived at that 

 8    state, deserves protection and not dismissal.  

 9                 This legislation corrects a 

10    longstanding failure in our legal system and 

11    affirms a basic principle that consent must be 

12    knowing, clear and freely given.  

13                 I thank this conference for 

14    continually supporting this bill and for 

15    championing a critical package standing with 

16    survivors across New York.  

17                 I proudly vote aye.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

19    Fernandez to be recorded in the affirmative.

20                 Announce the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    536, Senate Print 1015, by Senator Brouk, an act 


                                                               3493

 1    to amend the Estates, Powers and Trusts Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 6    shall have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

11    Brouk to explain her vote.

12                 SENATOR BROUK:   Thank you, 

13    Mr. President.  

14                 I stand here today to vote aye on my 

15    bill, S1015, which concerns elder abuse.  

16                 I'd like to thank all of the 

17    cosponsors who have helped carry this bill and 

18    especially the Rochester residents who championed 

19    this back home.  

20                 Elder abuse is a national concern.  

21    It affects millions of people every year.  And 

22    according to the American Journal of Public 

23    Health, nearly one in 10 older adults will 

24    experience elder abuse.  But it's often a silent, 

25    hidden problem that robs older adults of their 


                                                               3494

 1    dignity and livelihoods.  

 2                 It's because this abuse can take so 

 3    many different forms, ranging from physical abuse 

 4    to financial exploitation.  And it can happen 

 5    anywhere by anyone.  According to the National 

 6    Institute on Aging, the mistreatment of older 

 7    adults is just as common from family members or 

 8    caregivers as it is from strangers, and amounts 

 9    to a total loss of $28 billion each year from our 

10    seniors.  

11                 This legislation seeks to restore 

12    elder justice in this way because for too long 

13    our older adults have suffered as victims of 

14    fraud, exploitation and neglect.  Passing this 

15    bill will prohibit an individual convicted of a 

16    crime involving elder abuse from inheriting their 

17    victim's estate.

18                 We can prevent elder abuse by making 

19    it clear that those who stand to gain from the 

20    death of an older adult will no longer be able to 

21    do so in this way.  

22                 I proudly vote aye.  Thank you.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

24    Brouk to be recorded in the affirmative.

25                 Announce the results.


                                                               3495

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    554, Assembly Bill Number 2123A, by 

 6    Assemblymember Berger, an act to amend the 

 7    Civil Service Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    555, Senate Print 596, by Senator Hinchey, an act 

22    to amend the Executive Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               3496

 1    act shall take effect on the first of July.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 6    Murray to explain his vote.

 7                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you, 

 8    Mr. President.  

 9                 I rise to thank the sponsor for 

10    this.  This is a bill that I'm just -- frankly, 

11    I'm surprised it has not been signed into law 

12    yet.  

13                 You know, we do enough things to 

14    cause problems for our businesses in this state.  

15    This is a small step where we can help.  This 

16    is women and minority-owned businesses -- I've 

17    heard stories of -- I had a woman come up to me 

18    who said, Listen, I got my designation, I got 

19    certified as an MWBE.  I came up for renewal.  

20    There's been absolutely no change to my business, 

21    no change in ownership, no change in management.  

22    And yet I was denied recertification.  

23                 That makes absolutely no sense.  

24    Just another obstacle thrown in the way of our, 

25    many times, small businesses.  


                                                               3497

 1                 Passing this bill will remove that 

 2    obstacle.  It is a commonsense bill, and that's 

 3    why I'm proudly voting aye.

 4                 Thank you.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 6    Murray to be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                 Announce the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    679, Senate Print Number 3519, by Senator 

13    Scarcella-Spanton, an act to amend the Penal Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.  

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

22    Scarcella-Spanton to explain her vote.

23                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

24    you, Mr. President.  

25                 Today we take an important step 


                                                               3498

 1    forward to protect New Yorkers from a growing and 

 2    dangerous form of harassment.  As technology 

 3    continues to evolve, so do methods used by 

 4    predators to stalk, intimidate or control their 

 5    victims.  

 6                 These people have exploited 

 7    loopholes in our laws using GPS devices, 

 8    cellphones, apps and other technologies to track 

 9    someone's movements or spy on their property, 

10    often without the victim's knowledge or consent.  

11    Today stalkers can follow you from your pocket, 

12    your car, even your home without you ever 

13    knowing.  

14                 This legislation updates New York's 

15    definition of stalking in the fourth degree to 

16    reflect this new digital age.  With the passage 

17    of this bill, we are clearly making it clear:  

18    Using technology to terrorize someone is just as 

19    serious and damaging as any other form of 

20    harassment.  And here in New York, it will not be 

21    tolerated.

22                 Until now there has been no clear 

23    legal protections in place to stop this behavior, 

24    and no path forward for justice.  Many 

25    perpetrators have faced no consequences.  But we 


                                                               3499

 1    deserve better in New York.  We're adapting our 

 2    laws to meet the moment and reaffirming our 

 3    commitment to protecting the privacy, safety and 

 4    peace of mind of all New Yorkers.  

 5                 Thank you, and I proudly vote aye.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 7    Scarcella-Spanton to be recorded in the 

 8    affirmative.

 9                 Announce the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    746, Senate Print 561, by Senator Krueger, an act 

15    to amend the Administrative Code of the City of 

16    New York.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

21    shall have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 


                                                               3500

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 746, voting in the negative:  

 4    Senator Walczyk.  

 5                 Ayes, 56.  Nays -- also Senator 

 6    Borrello.

 7                 (Pause.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 746, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Borrello, O'Mara and Walczyk.

13                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 3.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    773, Senate Print 1353A, by Senator Cleare, an 

18    act to amend the General Business Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

23    shall have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               3501

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 3    Cleare to explain her vote.

 4                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Thank you, 

 5    Mr. President.

 6                 The consequences that a survivor of 

 7    domestic violence, elder abuse or other forms of 

 8    exploitation must face are often complex, 

 9    deep-seated and extend to all areas of the 

10    survivor's life, including their finances.

11                 Almost every case of abuse has an 

12    economic component to it, and the average 

13    survivor is often put into thousands of dollars 

14    of debt by their abusers.  This bill sets up an 

15    appropriate formalized process so that any 

16    survivor who was the victim of a coerced debt may 

17    apply to have the collection activities suspended 

18    pending review of documentation that the debt was 

19    in fact coerced.  

20                 In the ideal, after the review 

21    process the survivor will no longer be 

22    responsible for the debt in those cases where, 

23    after review, a negative finding of coercion is 

24    rendered, both an appeal and a private right of 

25    action are possible avenues for redress for the 


                                                               3502

 1    survivor.

 2                 In all, this bill ultimately seeks a 

 3    balanced approach where survivors are allowed to 

 4    grow, heal and move on with their lives and are 

 5    not burdened for the rest of their lives by debt 

 6    incurred under coercion.  

 7                 I proudly vote aye.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 9    Cleare to be recorded in the affirmative.

10                 Announce the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 773, voting in the negative are 

13    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

14    Gallivan, Lanza, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

15    Stec, Walczyk and Weik.

16                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 11.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    781, Senate Print 1665, by Senator Harckham, an 

21    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 


                                                               3503

 1    shall have become a law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 781, voting in the negative are 

 9    Senators Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo and 

10    Oberacker.

11                 Ayes, 52.  Nays, 5.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    899, Senate Print 607, by Senator Stavisky, an 

16    act to amend the Education Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 15.  This 

20    act shall take effect 18 months after it shall 

21    have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 


                                                               3504

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    956, Senate Print --

 7                 SENATOR LIU:   Lay it aside for the 

 8    day. 

 9                 (Laughter.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

11    will be laid aside for the day.

12                 With that, Senator Liu, that 

13    completes the reading of today's calendar.

14                 (Overtalk, laughter.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

16    Liu, with that, that completes the reading of 

17    today's calendar.

18                 SENATOR LIU:   Mr. President, please 

19    go to the reading of the controversial calendar.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

21    Secretary will ring the bell.

22                 The Secretary will read.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    256, Senate Print 429, by Senator Salazar, an act 

25    to amend the Executive Law.


                                                               3505

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 2    Lanza, why do you rise?

 3                 SENATOR LANZA:   Mr. President, I 

 4    believe there's an amendment at the desk.  

 5                 I waive the reading of that 

 6    amendment and ask that you recognize 

 7    Senator Stec.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 9    you, Senator Lanza.  

10                 Upon review of the amendment, in 

11    accordance with Rule 6, Section 4B, I rule it 

12    nongermane and out of order.

13                 SENATOR LANZA:   Accordingly, 

14    Mr. President, I appeal the ruling of the chair 

15    and ask that Senator Stec be heard on that 

16    appeal.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

18    appeal has been made and recognized.  Senator 

19    Stec may be heard.

20                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

21    Mr. President.  

22                 I rise to appeal the ruling of the 

23    chair.  The proposed amendment is germane to the 

24    bill at hand because the bill at hand relates to 

25    sexual assaults occurring within correctional 


                                                               3506

 1    facilities, and this amendment increases the 

 2    penalties for sexual assaults committed against 

 3    corrections officers.

 4                 Sexual assault is a serious issue, 

 5    and when it occurs in our prisons it must be 

 6    taken seriously and thoroughly investigated and 

 7    properly punished.  That applies to all who are 

 8    in our correctional facilities, not just our 

 9    inmates.  I wonder how many prosecutions of these 

10    sexual assaults in prisons have occurred in the 

11    last five years in New York State.  I doubt very 

12    many.

13                 Since the implementation of the HALT 

14    Act, violence has surged in our prisons and our 

15    dedicated corrections officers staff has never 

16    been or felt less safe.  Inmates continue to 

17    commit acts of sexual violence against correction 

18    officers, and these inmates believe that there 

19    will be no consequences for their conduct.  

20                 And I'd ask everyone to go and 

21    review the press conference that was reported on 

22    that occurred here, a bipartisan press 

23    conference, May 9, 2023, where several female 

24    corrections officers came and made their cases 

25    and stories known.


                                                               3507

 1                 Instead of addressing the violent 

 2    crisis within our prisons, this Legislature 

 3    continues to coddle criminals, demonize the 

 4    corrections officers that risk their lives and 

 5    well-being to keep those criminals and our 

 6    communities safe, and ignore the valid pleas of 

 7    corrections staff to finally step up and do 

 8    something about the assaults and sexual violence 

 9    that is committed against them.

10                 This proposed amendment seeks to 

11    right that wrong by ensuring that there are very 

12    real and severe punishments for inmates who 

13    commit heinous acts of sexual violence against 

14    our correction officers.

15                 For that reason, Mr. President, I 

16    strongly urge you to reconsider your ruling.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

18    you, Senator.  

19                 I want to remind the house that the 

20    vote is on the procedures of the house and the 

21    ruling of the chair.  

22                 Those in favor of overruling the 

23    chair, signify by saying aye.

24                 (Response of "Aye.")

25                 SENATOR LANZA:   Show of hands.


                                                               3508

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   A show of 

 2    hands has been requested and so ordered.  

 3    announce the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 21.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 6    ruling of the chair stands, and the bill-in-chief 

 7    is before the house.

 8                 Read the last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 180th day.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

12    Stec, why do you rise? 

13                 SENATOR STEC:   If the sponsor of 

14    the bill would yield for a few questions, please, 

15    Mr. President.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

17    sponsor yield?

18                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Yes.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

20    sponsor yields.

21                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you.  Through 

22    you, Mr. President.  

23                 The IG already has authorization to 

24    conduct investigations of this sort.  So why is 

25    this bill necessary?


                                                               3509

 1                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Through you, 

 2    Mr. President.  Right now there is not a 

 3    mechanism created by the Inspector General's 

 4    office that would allow for incarcerated 

 5    individuals to confidentially report sexual 

 6    misconduct or sexual violence and for the 

 7    Inspector General's office to actually 

 8    investigate those complaints.

 9                 SENATOR STEC:  Will the sponsor 

10    continue to yield?

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

12    sponsor yield?

13                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Yes.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

17    Mr. President.

18                 Why aren't corrections officers 

19    included in this bill?  Sexual assault occurs in 

20    our prisons and is committed against both inmates 

21    and corrections officers.  So why are COs 

22    omitted?  

23                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Through you, 

24    Mr. President.  It is always serious when sexual 

25    assault is committed, regardless of who commits 


                                                               3510

 1    the sexual assaults, who the perpetrator is, and 

 2    who the victim is.

 3                 However, a fundamental difference 

 4    between incarcerated individuals and correction 

 5    officers, as well as between incarcerated 

 6    individuals and all of us in this chamber, is 

 7    that incarcerated individuals do not have their 

 8    liberty.  Their communication with the outside 

 9    world is, because they are incarcerated, 

10    controlled and monitored by DOCCS.  

11                 This is not true, rightly, of 

12    correction officers.  If they are a victim of a 

13    crime, of a sexual assault or if they were to 

14    witness a sexual assault, they have the ability 

15    to report that crime to State Police.  They also 

16    could hypothetically report it to the 

17    Inspector General's office, although I don't know 

18    why they would.  Because, again, they have the 

19    ability to report the crime to State Police, and 

20    as it has happened before, the State Police would 

21    likely, you know, arrest the individual.  Or if 

22    the individual is incarcerated, they could be 

23    charged and convicted, prosecuted, have time 

24    added to their sentence.

25                 SENATOR STEC:   Will the sponsor 


                                                               3511

 1    continue to yield?

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 3    sponsor yield?

 4                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Yes.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.  

 7                 SENATOR STEC:   Okay.  Well, again, 

 8    I highly doubt that this has been prosecuted very 

 9    often in this state.  And as an aside, I've tried 

10    to get this kind of information, this data, from 

11    DOCCS.  And while they seem to track everything 

12    else, they don't seem to track sexual assaults 

13    that occur in their facilities.

14                 But our incarcerated individuals 

15    already have a means to report incidents.  So if 

16    we're adding another path for them, then despite 

17    the COs already having other mechanisms 

18    themselves, why -- again, why not include 

19    corrections officers here to make this a 

20    parallel -- the issue is we want the 

21    Inspector General to be tracking and 

22    investigating what's happening in our prisons.  

23                 Why would we discriminate or 

24    segregate incarcerated from corrections officers 

25    if they're both suffering from sexual assaults?  


                                                               3512

 1                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Through you, 

 2    Mr. President.  Again, it is a fundamental 

 3    difference between incarcerated individuals and 

 4    correction officers that incarcerated individuals 

 5    do not have their liberty.  They don't have the 

 6    liberty to simply contact the State Police if 

 7    they are a victim of a sexual assault.  

 8                 I also just want to add that if we 

 9    were to pass this legislation, it would take a 

10    step towards bringing DOCCS into actual 

11    compliance with the Prison Rape Elimination Act, 

12    PREA.  It requires that incarcerated people be 

13    provided at least one way to report abuse or 

14    harassment to an entity that is not part of the 

15    agency.  So not just being able to report these 

16    crimes to DOCCS' Office of Special 

17    Investigations, OSI.  

18                 And they also need to be able to 

19    report this abuse and have it be received and 

20    forwarded to an agency that is not part of DOCCS 

21    and allows the incarcerated person to remain 

22    anonymous.  That is not true under existing 

23    policy or law.  Incarcerated people may use 

24    privileged correspondence, for example, to write 

25    to the State Commission of Correction, informing 


                                                               3513

 1    them if there is an alleged assault.  And of 

 2    course the SCOC is a separate entity from DOCCS.  

 3                 However, if an incarcerated 

 4    individual were to do that, they are required to 

 5    write their name and return address on the 

 6    envelope that they use to contact the SCOC.  And 

 7    in fact the superintendent of a facility can 

 8    authorize that that privileged correspondence be 

 9    read by staff.  

10                 So all of this is to say that right 

11    now, without creating a mechanism for 

12    incarcerated individuals to anonymously make 

13    these reports to an entity that is independent 

14    from DOCCS, New York is not in full compliance 

15    with PREA.

16                 SENATOR STEC:   Will the sponsor 

17    continue to yield.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

19    sponsor yield?

20                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Yes.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

22    Senator yields.

23                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

24    Mr. President.

25                 Whether to assist in drafting this 


                                                               3514

 1    bill or in general as the chair of the 

 2    Crime Victims, Crime and Correction Committee, in 

 3    2022 you held a public hearing to investigate the 

 4    sexual assaults impacting incarcerated 

 5    individuals in DOCCS.  

 6                 Your sponsor memo states:  "Multiple 

 7    organizations and formerly incarcerated impacted 

 8    individuals testified at this hearing, detailing 

 9    specific incidents of sexual assault while 

10    incarcerated, most of which never received 

11    timely, appropriate or adequate care or responses 

12    to grievances or reports filed against the 

13    individuals who assaulted them."  

14                 Were sexual assaults impacting staff 

15    investigated during this hearing?

16                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Through you, 

17    Mr. President.  Yes, absolutely.  

18                 And in fact, correction officers, 

19    both in local correctional facilities and 

20    correction officers from state facilities 

21    testified at the hearing.

22                 SENATOR STEC:   Will the sponsor 

23    continue to yield?

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

25    sponsor yield?


                                                               3515

 1                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 3    Senator yields.

 4                 SENATOR STEC:   So as the chair of 

 5    the Corrections Committee, have you ever met with 

 6    any COs to discuss their experiences with sexual 

 7    assault in correctional facilities?  

 8                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President, yes, I have.

10                 SENATOR STEC:   Will the sponsor 

11    continue to yield?

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

13    sponsor yield?

14                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Yes.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

16    sponsor yields.  

17                 SENATOR STEC:   Can you say when 

18    those were or give a little background on what 

19    and when?  

20                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Sure.  Through 

21    you, Mr. President, yes.  I couldn't cite a date 

22    at this moment.  But in this current year I know 

23    that my office has met with correction officers 

24    about this issue and about other issues that they 

25    deal with in their workplace.  


                                                               3516

 1                 On multiple occasions I have met 

 2    with -- not just including the hearing that we 

 3    held in 2022, but since then, have met with 

 4    correction officers to talk about their 

 5    experiences.  They were private meetings so, you 

 6    know, I shouldn't divulge more than that.  But I 

 7    did meet with them.

 8                 SENATOR STEC:   Will the sponsor 

 9    continue to yield?

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

11    sponsor yield?

12                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Yes.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

14    sponsor yields.  

15                 SENATOR STEC:   On May 9th of 2023, 

16    here at the Capitol, there was a bipartisan 

17    majority-led press conference here in the Capitol 

18    surrounding the issue of corrections officers 

19    concerned about sexual assaults in prisons, where 

20    again, as I mentioned previously, several female 

21    corrections officers came and shared their 

22    experiences.

23                 Were you present at that press 

24    conference or did you meet with those corrections 

25    officers in the lead-up to that press conference?  


                                                               3517

 1                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Through you, 

 2    Mr. President.  While I don't know that this is 

 3    related to this bill in this way, I don't know 

 4    where I was in on May 9, 2023, other than 

 5    probably in the Capitol.  I truly don't know if I 

 6    was in attendance at that press conference.

 7                 SENATOR STEC:   Will the sponsor 

 8    continue to yield for two more questions?

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

10    sponsor yield?

11                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Yes.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

13    sponsor yields.  

14                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you.  

15                 So as the chair of the Corrections 

16    Committee, are you open to holding a hearing to 

17    investigate the impacts of sexual assaults on 

18    corrections officers and civilian staff?  

19                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Through you, 

20    Mr. President.  As Senator Stec knows, in 2022 I 

21    cochaired a hearing that addressed sexual 

22    violence in correctional facilities, and included 

23    testimony from correction officers who have been 

24    subject to sexual violence in correctional 

25    facilities.  It was the first hearing of its kind 


                                                               3518

 1    that has ever been held in the history of the 

 2    New York State Senate.  

 3                 I certainly wouldn't be opposed to 

 4    holding a hearing like it.  I also wouldn't be 

 5    opposed to hearing testimony about this subject 

 6    tomorrow when we are holding a hearing right here 

 7    in the State Capitol to discuss violence in our 

 8    state prisons.

 9                 SENATOR STEC:   Will the sponsor 

10    continue to yield for that final question.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

12    sponsor yield?

13                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Yes.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you.  Thank 

17    you, Senator.

18                 So the hostile amendment to this 

19    bill today, this Senate Bill 3517, by 

20    Senator Scarcella-Spanton, would make forcible 

21    touching of a corrections officer a Class E 

22    felony.  Will you work with your colleague to see 

23    that CO protections like the one in her bill 

24    become law?

25                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Through you, 


                                                               3519

 1    Mr. President, I will gladly discuss that with 

 2    Senator Scarcella-Spanton.  

 3                 But I would argue that it is not 

 4    germane to this bill, which is related to 

 5    ensuring that incarcerated individuals who, 

 6    again, don't currently have the ability to 

 7    report -- at least freely and anonymously report 

 8    sexual violence committed against them, that they 

 9    would be able to do so.  

10                 So yes, beyond the context of the 

11    bill before us today, I would certainly have that 

12    discussion with my colleague.

13                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

14    Mr. President.

15                 On the bill.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

17    Stec on the bill.

18                 SENATOR STEC:   You know, I'm not 

19    even a member of the Corrections Committee, but I 

20    do represent a lot of corrections officers.  

21                 I have seven correctional facilities 

22    in my Senate district, and I've been in and out 

23    of them a lot over the years, both as a Senator 

24    and prior to that in the Assembly.

25                 And the consistent drumbeat that 


                                                               3520

 1    I've heard over the years, and especially since 

 2    the passage and implementation of the HALT Act, 

 3    are about the concerns for their safety.  And the 

 4    statistics and the stories and the injuries that 

 5    I've seen to our corrections officers and staff, 

 6    our employees, is astounding to me.  

 7                 To the point, again -- and I 

 8    apologize to sound like a broken record, but it's 

 9    important.  We're talking about people's lives 

10    and safety and the dangerous job.  These folks 

11    violated the Taylor Act and took a 

12    two-day-for-one penalty, and then on top -- under 

13    law, for violating that act by going out on an 

14    illegal strike, and then on top of that had its 

15    own employer, the state government and the 

16    executive, turn on it and retaliate and pile on 

17    with unnecessary and beyond what's required in 

18    the law punishments.

19                 Where thousands of COs left because 

20    they're concerned about their safety.  And we've 

21    been -- this was the first strike since 1979.  It 

22    lasted 22 days.  It is literally unprecedented in 

23    our state's history.  It is certainly the most 

24    significant incident that's happened in 

25    corrections in the state since the riots at 


                                                               3521

 1    Attica.  

 2                 And we've been talking about it and 

 3    we're spending a hundred million dollars a month, 

 4    according to the Governor's budget office, on 

 5    untrained, unqualified National Guard people 

 6    instead of rehiring COs.  And they're still 

 7    working 12-hour shifts on and off and no end in 

 8    sight.  You know, the staffing levels haven't 

 9    gotten any better.  I wonder why.  

10                 And we've been talking about it.  We 

11    talked about it in the budget.  We've had hostile 

12    amendments on it.  No one in this chamber can be 

13    unaware of the failure of our correctional system 

14    right now where inmate-on-inmate assaults have 

15    doubled in the last couple of years, 

16    inmate-on-staff have doubled in the last couple 

17    of years.  

18                 And I just -- this bill, who's 

19    against investigating and holding people 

20    accountable for sexual assaults in prison?  But 

21    it doesn't go far enough.  Because it addresses 

22    part of the problem.  It talks about 

23    inmate-on-inmate assaults, but it ignores 

24    inmate-on-COs-and-staff.

25                 And to bring this bill forward in 


                                                               3522

 1    the context of what's going on today, in 2025, 

 2    with all these prison safety issues and strikes 

 3    and unprecedented problems in corrections, it 

 4    just astounds me, the Majority's continued 

 5    stubborn indifference to, and if not outright 

 6    disregard for the safety of our COs and civilian 

 7    staff.  It's just deeply disturbing to me.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Are there 

 9    any other Senators wishing to be heard?

10                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

11    closed.

12                 The Secretary will ring the bell.

13                 Senator Liu.

14                 SENATOR LIU:   Upon consent, we've 

15    agreed to restore this bill to the 

16    noncontroversial calendar.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

21    shall have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 


                                                               3523

 1    Helming to explain her vote.

 2                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

 3    Mr. President.

 4                 This bill fails to address the need 

 5    to conduct thorough and impartial investigations 

 6    into all reported incidents of sexual assaults 

 7    within our correctional facilities.  

 8                 It was several months ago when the 

 9    bipartisan Legislative Women's Caucus held a 

10    meeting and we heard from several female 

11    corrections officers not only about the sexual 

12    harassment and assaults they endured, but about 

13    all of the assaults and attacks that they have 

14    endured.  

15                 And these all happened, again, as 

16    state employees in our state facilities.  The 

17    women shared how they have been traumatized and 

18    scarred for life.  That wasn't so surprising to 

19    me based on what they have endured.  But what was 

20    surprising to me that came out of those meetings 

21    is how their families, their children, have also 

22    been traumatized by those attacks.  

23                 These women, they begged the female 

24    legislators who are members of the Legislative 

25    Women's Caucus, to take action to do something.  


                                                               3524

 1    But here we are months later, and before us 

 2    there's a bill that covers inmates only.  This 

 3    bill should be expanded to include those who work 

 4    and serve in our state's correctional facilities.  

 5                 And Mr. President, until it does, I 

 6    vote no.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 8    Helming to be recorded in the negative.

 9                 Senator Salazar to explain her vote.

10                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Thank you, 

11    Mr. President.

12                 After our state enacted the 

13    Adult Survivors Act in 2022, more than 750 women 

14    came forward to take legal action regarding 

15    sexual assaults they experienced in New York 

16    State prisons.

17                 During just the following year-long 

18    period in which survivors could file for civil 

19    damages under the ASA, over 1,550 cases were 

20    filed by formerly incarcerated individuals 

21    alleging that they had suffered sexual abuse in 

22    New York State prisons.

23                 These assaults not only include 

24    sexual violence but also severe retaliation and 

25    threats when survivors attempted to report the 


                                                               3525

 1    abuse.  In fact, the Sylvia Rivera Law Project 

 2    and TakeRoot Justice found that 75 percent of 

 3    formerly incarcerated respondents reported 

 4    experiencing or witnessing firsthand at least one 

 5    instance of sexual violence by a correction 

 6    officer when they were incarcerated.  Two-thirds 

 7    of those who reported their assaults faced 

 8    retaliation including physical violence, property 

 9    destruction, being written up on false 

10    challenges, and being denied meals.

11                 As the data shows, the process of 

12    relying on DOCCS OSI to investigate its own staff 

13    when reports of sexual misconduct are made 

14    against them is deeply ineffective.  Complaints 

15    are largely unaddressed and frequently result in 

16    retaliation.  We need an independent entity to 

17    investigate these reports in New York instead.  

18                 Without meaningful accountability, 

19    sexual violence will continue in our state 

20    prisons.  

21                 Today I urge my colleagues to once 

22    again vote in favor of this bill, which would 

23    authorize the State Inspector General to 

24    confidentially receive and investigate complaints 

25    of sexual assault in DOCCS facilities.  


                                                               3526

 1                 All survivors of sexual assault 

 2    deserve justice, regardless of where the assault 

 3    occurred.  The feckless system that allows this 

 4    to continue must be changed.  And this bill is 

 5    desperately needed in order to begin to achieve 

 6    that.

 7                 I vote aye.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 9    Salazar to be recorded in the affirmative.

10                 Announce the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 256, voting in the negative are 

13    Senators Borrello, Helming, Walczyk and Weik.

14                 Ayes, 53.  Nays, 4.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 Senator Liu, that completes the 

18    reading of today's calendar.

19                 SENATOR LIU:   Mr. President, is 

20    there any further business at the desk?

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   There is 

22    no further business at the desk.

23                 SENATOR LIU:   Then I move to 

24    adjourn until tomorrow, Wednesday, May 14th, at 

25    3:00 p.m.


                                                               3527

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   On 

 2    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

 3    Wednesday, May 14th, at 3:00 p.m.

 4                 (Whereupon, at 5:22 p.m., the Senate 

 5    adjourned.)

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