Regular Session - May 20, 2025

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    May 20, 2025

11                      3:45 p.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR JEREMY COONEY, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone to please rise and 

 5    recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

14    reading of the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Monday, 

16    Monday, May 19, 2025, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Friday, May 16, 

18    2025, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned. 

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.  

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.  

24                 The Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Gonzalez 


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 1    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Codes, 

 2    Assembly Bill Number 1550 and substitute it for 

 3    the identical Senate Bill 6975, Third Reading 

 4    Calendar 641.

 5                 Senator Jackson moves to discharge, 

 6    from the Committee on Civil Service and Pensions, 

 7    Assembly Bill Number 7424 and substitute it for 

 8    the identical Senate Bill 7646, Third Reading 

 9    Calendar 952.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   So 

11    ordered.

12                 Messages from the Governor.

13                 Reports of standing committees.

14                 Reports of select committees.

15                 Communications and reports from 

16    state officers.

17                 Motions and resolutions.

18                 Senator Gianaris.

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good afternoon, 

20    Mr. President.  

21                 On behalf of Senator Persaud, I wish 

22    to call up Senate Print 518, recalled from the 

23    Assembly, which is now at the desk.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

25    Secretary will read.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    109, Senate Print 518, by Senator Persaud, an act 

 3    to amend the Executive Law.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to 

 5    reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 7    Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 53.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

11    is restored to its place on the Third Reading 

12    Calendar.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I offer the 

14    following amendments.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

16    amendments are received.

17                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I also have 

18    amendments on the following Third Reading 

19    Calendar bills:

20                 By Senator Krueger, page 22, 

21    Calendar Number 634, Senate Print 2433; 

22                 Senator Skoufis, page 26, 

23    Calendar Number 697, Senate Print 6368;

24                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton, page 50, 

25    Calendar Number 983, Senate Print 4917. 


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 2    amendments are received, and the bills will 

 3    retain their place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 4                 Senator Gianaris.

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to adopt 

 6    the Resolution Calendar, with the exception of 

 7    Resolution 1067.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   All those 

 9    in favor of adopting the Resolution Calendar, 

10    with the exception of Resolution 1067, please 

11    signify by saying aye.

12                 (Response of "Aye.")

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Opposed, 

14    nay.

15                 (No response.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

17    Resolution Calendar is adopted.

18                 Senator Gianaris.

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please call on 

20    Senator Hinchey for an introduction.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

22    Hinchey for an introduction.

23                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

24    Mr. President.

25                 At the heart of our democracy are 


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 1    the promises of freedom and equality, ideals that 

 2    have long made our country a beacon for the world 

 3    and remind us that government should always be 

 4    of, by and for the people.

 5                 But those ideals don't sustain 

 6    themselves.  They depend on every generation 

 7    picking up the mantel, staying engaged, and 

 8    advancing a democracy that's better, more 

 9    inclusive, and more accountable.

10                 Today I'm proud to welcome an 

11    inspiring group of students to our Senate 

12    chamber:  Members of the Democracy Matters Club 

13    at Emma Willard School in Troy, including 

14    neighbors from my district in Hudson.  

15                 This chapter is part of a national 

16    student-led organization that's growing on 

17    high school and college campuses across the 

18    country.  Students from Emma Willard meet weekly 

19    to discuss the issues shaping our communities and 

20    country.  They run voter registration drives for 

21    their peers, write letters to elected officials 

22    on issues like the environment, voting rights and 

23    campaign finance reform, and advocate for more 

24    transparency and accountability in government.  

25                 The clubs have been active at 


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 1    Emma Willard for the last eight years, and the 

 2    sustained level of engagement from these students 

 3    is nothing short of impressive.  

 4                 Democracy Matters was founded in 

 5    2001 by former MBA player Adonal Foyle and his 

 6    parents, Joan and Jay Mandle, constituents of 

 7    mine in the Hudson Valley.  They started 

 8    Democracy Matters based on the simple and true 

 9    belief that civic engagement isn't something you 

10    grow into later in life, it's for everyone, 

11    especially for young people who deserve a voice 

12    in shaping their future right now.

13                 To the students here today -- 

14    Nadia Mitic, Fiona Kelly from Hudson, 

15    Eden Kopans, and Olivia Verrillo -- and our 

16    chaperones -- Katie Duglin, History and Social 

17    Services Department chair, and Joan Mandle, 

18    executive director of Democracy Matters -- thank 

19    you for your passion and your purpose.  

20                 We're so happy to have you here.  I 

21    think I speak for everyone in this chamber when I 

22    say keep caring and pushing the future that you 

23    want to see.

24                 Mr. President, if you would please 

25    extend to them all the privileges of this chamber 


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 1    and welcome them to the Capitol.

 2                 Thank you very much.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 4    you, Senator Hinchey.

 5                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

 6    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

 7    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

 8                 Please rise and be recognized.  

 9                 (Standing ovation.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

11    Gianaris.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's move on to 

13    Resolution 1067, by Senator Ramos, read that 

14    resolution's title, and recognize Senator Ramos, 

15    please.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

17    Secretary will read.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1067, by 

19    Senator Ramos, honoring the Lexington School for 

20    the Deaf upon the occasion of hosting its 

21    28th Annual Basketball Classic vs. 

22    Assembly/Senate All-Stars on May 20, 2025.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

24    Ramos on the resolution.

25                 SENATOR RAMOS:   Thank you, 


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 1    Mr. President.  

 2                 Today is one of my favorite days of 

 3    the year here in the Senate because we honor the 

 4    oldest and largest school for the deaf in 

 5    New York State.  And of course tonight there's a 

 6    big basketball game.  So I want to begin by 

 7    thanking my colleagues, my basketball-loving 

 8    colleagues, for volunteering to get beat by the 

 9    Blue Jays from the Lexington School for the Deaf 

10    tonight.  

11                 And of course a big shout-out to 

12    them, who are here in the gallery with us today.  

13    Folks, that's your big competition tonight, and I 

14    can tell you they mean business.  

15                 We're tipping off the 28th Annual 

16    Lexington Basketball Classic tonight.  And let me 

17    tell you, my heart is dribbling right alongside 

18    our Blue Jays.  I see hustle, I see heart, I see 

19    Queens grit.  And I'm talking Knicks to Mets, 

20    baseline to baseline.  

21                 The Lexington School for the Deaf is 

22    a dynasty.  Since 1864, Lexington's been building 

23    access, community and excellence way before it 

24    was trending.  ASL and English:  Lexington was 

25    running a bilingual offense before most schools 


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 1    knew how to pass the ball.  Early childhood 

 2    programs?  Lexington had that covered while 

 3    inclusion was still warming the bench.  

 4                 And when it comes to academics, 

 5    athletics and the arts, that's a three-point 

 6    play.  And Lexington's got the follow-through.

 7                 To our Blue Jays tonight, you're not 

 8    just here to play, you're here to show out.  Deaf 

 9    excellence isn't just alive, it's undefeated.  

10                 And with that being said, it's a 

11    privilege to establish this resolution in honor 

12    of the Lexington School for the Deaf.  For over a 

13    century they've represented and established an 

14    environment of growth, learning and success.  We 

15    are proud to acknowledge their legacy today and 

16    the school's impact on my district.  

17                 And, last thing, if any of these 

18    Senators down here try to block your shot 

19    tonight, remind them that they may write the 

20    laws, but you write the highlight reel.  So show 

21    them how East Elmhurst does, and make us proud.

22                 Thank you.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

24    you, Senator Ramos.

25                 Senator Bailey on the resolution.


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 1                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

 2    Mr. President.  

 3                 I want to thank Senator Ramos for 

 4    this important resolution.  I want to thank my 

 5    colleagues.  Most importantly, I want to thank 

 6    the Lexington School for the Deaf for coming up 

 7    year after year.  

 8                 It's no secret that I'm an 

 9    incredibly huge sports fan, and I've said it on 

10    this floor many times:  Sports is the world's 

11    greatest social currency, and it brings people 

12    together that may not have ever been able to have 

13    a conversation.  

14                 But you show people that you are 

15    more than not being able to hear so well.  You 

16    rise above that.  You show that on that court you 

17    can do anything that you put your mind and your 

18    heart to.  

19                 So I'm looking forward to a spirited 

20    game.  I'm looking forward to seeing you all 

21    stand up so I can see the scouting report to see 

22    who's really tall and who might throw me on the 

23    floor like one guy did a couple of years ago.  

24                 But I'm really excited about 

25    tonight's game, but I'm really more excited about 


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 1    you never giving up on your educational path.  

 2    And I'm really even more excited about the 

 3    futures that you have, not just on the court but 

 4    in the game of life.  Congratulations in advance, 

 5    because you're already winners.

 6                 Thank you, Mr. President.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 8    you, Senator Bailey.  

 9                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

10    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

11    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

12                 Please rise and be recognized.

13                 (Standing ovation.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

15    question is on the resolution.  All in favor 

16    signify by saying aye.

17                 (Response of "Aye.")

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Opposed, 

19    nay.

20                 (No response.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

22    resolution is adopted.

23                 Senator Gianaris.

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   It's a fun time 

25    at the basketball game, for anyone that wants to 


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 1    go watch.

 2                 Previously adopted Resolution 298, 

 3    by Senator Fernandez, please read its title and 

 4    recognize Senator Fernandez.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 6    Secretary will read.  

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 298, by 

 8    Senator Fernandez, memorializing Governor Kathy 

 9    Hochul to proclaim April 13, 2025, as 

10    Borinqueneers Day in the State of New York.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

12    Fernandez on the resolution.

13                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you, 

14    Mr. President.

15                 Today we recognize one of the most 

16    distinguished fighting forces in our nation's 

17    history:  The 65th Infantry Regiment of the 

18    United States Army, known proudly as the 

19    Borinqueneers.  Formed on this day 126 years ago, 

20    in 1899, the Hispanic segregated unit served in 

21    World War I, World War II, and most notably in 

22    the Korean War, where their skill, discipline and 

23    valor became legendary.  

24                 They fought in nine major campaigns 

25    and carried out what would become the last U.S. 


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 1    Army bayonet assault in history.  Their record in 

 2    battle was so exceptional that five-star General 

 3    Douglas MacArthur himself praised them, saying 

 4    "They are writing a brilliant record of 

 5    achievement in battle, and I am proud indeed to 

 6    have them in this command."

 7                 Their courage was recognized not 

 8    only with words but with distinction -- thousands 

 9    of Purple Hearts, Bronze Stars, Silver Stars, and 

10    eventually the Congressional Gold Medal.  

11                 And in 2014, Congress designated 

12    April 13th as Borinqueneers Day, National 

13    Borinqueneers Day.

14                 Today with this resolution we ask 

15    New York State to join that recognition, because 

16    Borinqueneers didn't just serve our country.  

17    From Buffalo to the Bronx, from Suffolk County to 

18    Rochester, these soldiers settled here, raised 

19    families here, and shaped our neighborhoods.  

20    This is a statewide legacy.

21                 For me, this effort began with the 

22    story of one man, Jose A. Rivera-Carrion.  A 

23    Private First Class in Company G whom I honored 

24    last year in our veterans ceremony, 

25    Mr. Rivera-Carrion played a key role in the 


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 1    assault on Hill 88 during the Korean War, 

 2    clearing the path for his company while under 

 3    heavy fire.  He earned the Silver Star for his 

 4    gallantry.  

 5                 When Ricardo Garcia -- my guest on 

 6    the floor today -- shared his story with me, I 

 7    knew we found the right person to induct into the 

 8    Veterans hall of Fame.  In many ways, this 

 9    resolution started with him.  

10                 Mr. Rivera-Carrion still lives in 

11    the Bronx.  He celebrated his birthday this past 

12    April -- on April 13th, actually, the same day we 

13    now seek to honor across the state.  

14                 With this resolution we affirm that 

15    the Borinqueneers are part of New York's proud 

16    history.  We make their legacy permanent, and we 

17    send a clear message their service will always be 

18    remembered and celebrated by the people of this 

19    state.  

20                 I want to thank those that helped 

21    create a program today.  A committee was 

22    assembled led by Ricardo Garcia, who is the 

23    veterans director at Hostos Community College, in 

24    conjunction with Jorge Mercado, the Borinqueneers 

25    historian and veterans advocate -- and 


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 1    Congressional Gold Medal recipient -- and 

 2    Casimiro D. Rodriguez, Sr., president of the 

 3    Hispanic Heritage Council of Western New York.  

 4                 Today we had a program sharing the 

 5    beautiful history, the colorful history, and 

 6    sometimes sad history of the Borinqueneers and 

 7    what they've contributed to New York and the 

 8    United States.

 9                 It was a wonderful history lesson, 

10    and I intend to continue this lesson every year 

11    as we continue to pass this resolution on our 

12    Senate floor.

13                 So I thank the leadership for 

14    bringing this to the floor.  This is the first 

15    time the Borinqueneers have been honored with a 

16    resolution here in our house.  The Assembly also 

17    passed a resolution.  And I am deeply honored to 

18    begin a new tradition for us as we continue 

19    honoring those who have fought and defended this 

20    country.  

21                 Thank you.  I proudly vote aye.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

23    you, Senator.

24                 Senator Baskin on the resolution.

25                 SENATOR BASKIN:   Thank you, 


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 1    Mr. President.  

 2                 I rise today to acknowledge, support 

 3    and thank our leader and Senator Fernandez for 

 4    the resolution commemorating the New York State 

 5    Borinqueneers Hall of Fame Day, honoring the 

 6    65th Infantry Regiment, the largest and 

 7    longest-standing segregated Latino military unit 

 8    in our nation's history.  

 9                 The Borinqueneers served in 

10    World War I, World War II, and most notably in 

11    the Korean War, where they fought in some of the 

12    fiercest battles of our nation.  On top of 

13    difficulties of going to battlefields every 

14    single day, Borinqueneers, like other minority 

15    groups, faced discrimination for the color of 

16    their skin and for the language that they spoke.  

17                 It took 60 years for this group to 

18    be formally honored.  In 2014, President Barack 

19    Obama awarded the Borinqueneers the Congressional 

20    Gold Medal in recognition for their service and 

21    valor.  In 2020, President Biden created the 

22    National Borinqueneers Day.  

23                 And in my district, just last month 

24    the Borinqueneers Memorial Way was acknowledged 

25    and highlighted and designated on Virginia Street 


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 1    on the West Side of Buffalo.  

 2                 Also in my district, Mr. President, 

 3    10 years ago we unveiled the Hispanic American 

 4    Veterans Memorial Monument, which honors 

 5    Western New York's Borinqueneers.  This monument 

 6    was spearheaded by the Hispanic Heritage Council 

 7    of Western New York, whose president, Casimiro 

 8    Rodriguez, is here today.  Mr. Rodriguez is also 

 9    a national honorary member of the Borinqueneers 

10    Congressional Gold Medal Committee.

11                 And finally I want to recognize 

12    Mr. Juan Bautista Negron-Rivera.  Mr. Rivera was 

13    a member of the Puerto Rican National Guard and 

14    in 1951 was called up to fight in the Korean War, 

15    serving in Company E in the 65th Infantry 

16    regiment.  After the war, Mr. Rivera settled in 

17    my district of Buffalo, New York, where he 

18    continued his public service as a cofounder of 

19    the Pucho Olivencia Community Center, which is 

20    the center for the Puerto Rican community in 

21    Buffalo.

22                 Mr. Rivera is 93 years old and 

23    unfortunately could not be here in person with us 

24    today, but I am humbled to have him serve and to 

25    have him as my constituent as well as many other 


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 1    Buffalonian Borinqueneers.  

 2                 Thank you, Senator Fernandez, again 

 3    for your leadership and bringing forth this 

 4    resolution.  

 5                 And our eternal thanks, 

 6    Mr. President, to all Borinqueneers across our 

 7    nation.  Thank you.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 9    you, Senator.

10                 Senator Serrano on the resolution.

11                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you very 

12    much, Mr. President.  

13                 And I would like to express my 

14    gratitude to all of my colleagues -- in 

15    particular, Senator Fernandez, for bringing forth 

16    this really important resolution here today.  

17                 The Borinqueneers -- well, as a 

18    proud Puerto Rican, it's important that we know 

19    about the Borinqueneers and about their 

20    tremendous legacy.  So grateful for our guests 

21    who are here with us in the chamber today for 

22    their educating all of us on this very important 

23    part of our history.  

24                 My dad, who's a former member of the 

25    U.S. Army, from 1964 through 1967, spoke a great 


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 1    deal to me about the Borinqueneers and how 

 2    important they are and, indeed, the long history 

 3    of the Puerto Rican community in our armed 

 4    forces.  The very large percentage of 

 5    Puerto Ricans in all wars since 1899 and beyond 

 6    have been overrepresented by the Puerto Rican 

 7    community.

 8                 My dad, who was also a former member 

 9    of Congress, in 2014 advocated for the 

10    Congressional Gold Medal for the Borinqueneers, a 

11    sign of, I believe, the need for deeper 

12    understanding and pride within our community.

13                 So I think it's really important and 

14    extremely relevant that we stand here today and 

15    talk about a legacy that is often untold, the 

16    legacy of service and commitment to this country 

17    put forth by the Puerto Rican community, 

18    tremendous valor and commitment and bravery.  

19                 Very grateful again to all of my 

20    colleagues for this resolution.

21                 Thank you.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

23    you, Senator.

24                 Senator Sepúlveda on the resolution.

25                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Thank you, 


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 1    Mr. President, for allowing me to speak on this 

 2    resolution.  

 3                 I want to thank my colleague 

 4    Senator Fernandez.  I want to thank our leader 

 5    and all the comments that have been made on this 

 6    floor right now.

 7                 The Borinqueneers was a regiment 

 8    created in 1899 and was composed primarily of 

 9    Puerto Rican soldiers.  It was one of the last 

10    segregated units that the military in this 

11    country has had.  They were participating in the 

12    military conflicts for this country even though 

13    they were not citizens.  

14                 And in fact, it was a lot because of 

15    the acts of bravery that they exhibited during 

16    conflict that in 1917, through the Jones Act, 

17    that the United States decided to give 

18    Puerto Ricans citizenship upon birth.  They 

19    earned that right.  

20                 The Borinqueneers are members of the 

21    65th Infantry.  It's a Puerto Rican regiment of 

22    the U.S. Army that has always and to this day 

23    continues to distinguish themselves and have in 

24    this country throughout all the conflicts since 

25    1899.  


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 1                 Their acts, as I said, is one of the 

 2    primary reasons why Puerto Ricans have 

 3    citizenship.  However, let's not forget that it's 

 4    a limited citizenship.  Because despite Congress 

 5    controlling much of the legislation on the 

 6    island, Puerto Ricans cannot vote for president, 

 7    they have no direct vote, and they have no voting 

 8    rights in Congress.

 9                 During the Korean War, the 

10    Borinqueneers really reached the pinnacle of 

11    praise because of their acts of valor, despite 

12    facing constant discrimination while they were 

13    serving this country.  In 2014, as my colleague 

14    said, President Obama awarded the Borinqueneers 

15    the Congressional Gold Medal, which is one of the 

16    highest civilian honors this country has, and it 

17    was primarily because they recognize the 

18    incredible service that they've given to this 

19    country.

20                 Unfortunately, I was -- well, not 

21    unfortunately, but I was educated through the 

22    public school systems here in New York, and we 

23    never learned about the history of Borinqueneers.  

24    Never learned anything about their valor.  And as 

25    a proud Puerto Rican, I learned later on about 


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 1    their courage and their service.  And I was 

 2    disappointed that I didn't learn that as a child, 

 3    because it would have given me additional pride 

 4    in being of Puerto Rican parents.

 5                 The Borinqueneers are a symbol of 

 6    resilience and valor, and their contributions to 

 7    the military of this country cannot be measured.  

 8                 As I've indicated in many forums 

 9    here, despite their valor, despite the service 

10    that they've given to this country in the 

11    military, when it comes to veteran benefits, 

12    Puerto Ricans that live on the island that are 

13    soldiers receive only 65 percent of the benefits 

14    that U.S. soldiers receive here on the mainland.  

15                 A Puerto Rican soldier, their life, 

16    their blood, sweat and tears -- the soldiers, the 

17    Borinqueneers, their life has the same value as 

18    any soldier in this country.  And they should be 

19    treated the same, and they should receive all the 

20    benefits as veterans that all other veterans 

21    receive in this country.  

22                 And I hope, before I leave this 

23    world, there will be an opportunity for me to see 

24    that Puerto Rican soldiers, Borinqueneers, are 

25    being treated equally as other soldiers in this 


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 1    country.

 2                 Thank you.  Gracias.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 4    you, Senator.

 5                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton on the 

 6    resolution.

 7                 SENATOR SCARCELLA-SPANTON:   Thank 

 8    you, Mr. President.  

 9                 And thank you, Senator Fernandez, 

10    for bringing this resolution to the floor and all 

11    the work that you did.  It really is historic to 

12    have this happening today, so thank you for that.

13                 As chair of Veterans, Homeland 

14    Security and Military Affairs Committee, I'm 

15    proud to be here alongside my colleagues to honor 

16    the 65th Infantry Regiment, proudly known as the 

17    Borinqueneers.

18                 The story of the U.S. Army cannot be 

19    told without the significant contributions that 

20    they have given.  The Borinqueneers were a 

21    Puerto Rican unit of the United States Army, men 

22    who wore the uniform with pride on behalf of a 

23    nation that, for far too long, failed to honor 

24    their return.

25                 They fought not only for freedom 


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 1    abroad, but also for dignity and equality at 

 2    home.  The Borinqueneers were awarded with more 

 3    than 2700 Purple Hearts, over 600 Bronze Stars, 

 4    256 Silver Stars, nine Distinguished Service 

 5    Crosses, and the Medal of Honor.  They are also 

 6    the only Hispanic unit from the Korean War to 

 7    receive the Congressional Gold Medal, a 

 8    recognition that was well deserved though long 

 9    overdue.  

10                 And I had the pleasure earlier to 

11    listen to my colleagues discuss it:  

12    Senator Serrano and his father had a lot to do 

13    with pushing that through, the Congressman, which 

14    is amazing.  

15                 And Senator Sepúlveda, also learning 

16    from you, hearing about the 65 percent that the 

17    soldiers in Puerto Rico are getting is 

18    unacceptable.  It's something that we all need to 

19    look into and speak to our federal counterparts 

20    about.

21                 But today many of the surviving 

22    Borinqueneers are in their 80s and 90s, and it is 

23    more important than ever to continue to honor 

24    their legacy and their work.

25                 I again thank Senator Fernandez for 


                                                               3747

 1    her leadership on this, and I proudly vote aye.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 3    you, Senator.

 4                 Senator Chan on the resolution.

 5                 SENATOR CHAN:   Wow.  Thank you, 

 6    Senator Fernandez, for bringing forth this 

 7    resolution.  

 8                 There was so much said about the 

 9    65th and the Borinqueneers.  But, everybody, you 

10    guys forgot to mention Sunset Park in Brooklyn, 

11    with our large population of Puerto Ricans as 

12    well as Hispanic people.  

13                 So I feel compelled to stand up and, 

14    on behalf of South Brooklyn, Sunset Park, I 

15    welcome my Borinqueneers.  I welcome the 65th.  

16    As a veteran, I extend my gratitude to you as 

17    well.  Thank you very much.

18                 Thank you, Mr. President.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

20    you, Senator Chan.

21                 Senator Bailey on the resolution.

22                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

23    Mr. President.  

24                 Thank you, Senator Fernandez, for 

25    this really important resolution.  


                                                               3748

 1                 Cultural awareness is what's going 

 2    to get us through.  And in my household, it is an 

 3    African-American and Puerto Rican household.  And 

 4    my daughters and my son, they've been learning 

 5    about the Buffalo Soldiers and the Tuskegee 

 6    Airmen, but it's really important that they also 

 7    learn about the Borinqueneers.  Because groups 

 8    that are fighting wars for people that sometimes 

 9    don't think of them as equal, I think that's even 

10    doubly heroic, Mr. President.

11                 And so as the Latino, like, 

12    regiment, the 65th, that's legendary, right?  The 

13    Borinqueneers sounds like a group of superheroes.  

14    The name sounds heroic -- and damn it, it is.  

15    Because in order for you to fight, like 

16    Senator Sepúlveda said, getting 65 percent of 

17    what -- of the blood, sweat and tears when you 

18    put a hundred in, going back to a country that 

19    doesn't -- that didn't regard you as equal and 

20    you still put that hundred percent in, that's 

21    superhero, to me.  

22                 So you've heard all the statistics 

23    and all the stats, and I'm grateful to all of my 

24    colleagues in government and all of my 

25    Latino brothers and sisters.  But just as someone 


                                                               3749

 1    who -- and I often refer to myself as "sorta 

 2    Rican."  My wife is Puerto Rican, I'm "sorta 

 3    Rican."  

 4                 (Laughter.)

 5                 SENATOR BAILEY:   It's really 

 6    important that the Puerto Rican culture, that the 

 7    history and the legacy of the Puerto Rican 

 8    culture that has been established in America is 

 9    not just said only on this floor; it's said in 

10    our schools.  Like Senator Sepúlveda said it 

11    perfectly.  We didn't learn anything about the 

12    Latino heroes in the military in our school 

13    system.  

14                 So as we continue to advance, as we 

15    continue to move forward in this chamber and 

16    outside, we have to make sure that like the 

17    beautiful and the gorgeous mosaic that 

18    David Dinkins said, we have to learn about each 

19    and every shade that did something.  

20                 And today is a historic day, the 

21    first time that -- Senator Fernandez, thank you 

22    for doing this for the Borinqueneers.  Hopefully 

23    it's the first of many days to come.  

24                 I proudly vote aye on this 

25    resolution, Mr. President.


                                                               3750

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 2    you, Senator.

 3                 Senator Cleare on the resolution.

 4                 SENATOR CLEARE:   Thank you, 

 5    Mr. President.  

 6                 And I rise today to thank my 

 7    colleague Senator Fernandez for bringing forth 

 8    this very important resolution.  You know, and I 

 9    echo the words of all of my colleagues.  

10                 But most importantly, it just goes 

11    to show how much we don't know, how much we're 

12    not teaching.  All of our children need to learn 

13    the history of our country and all of those who 

14    contribute so greatly to it.

15                 I want to thank the Borinqueneers 

16    for their service.  It is because of them that we 

17    are all standing here today doing what we're 

18    doing.  For protecting our democracy, for serving 

19    our country.  

20                 And I am proud to vote aye on this 

21    resolution.  I happen to represent East Harlem, 

22    El Barrio, which is, you know, Puerto Rico No. 2.  

23                 (Laughter.)

24                 SENATOR CLEARE:   So on behalf of my 

25    district, I wanted to say thank you.  Thank you 


                                                               3751

 1    for your service.  

 2                 And thank you, Senator Fernandez.  

 3    Thank you.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

 5    you, Senator Cleare.

 6                 To our guests, I welcome you on 

 7    behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

 8    privileges and courtesies of this house.  

 9                 Please rise and be recognized.

10                 (Standing ovation.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

12    resolution was adopted on February 4th.

13                 Senator Serrano.

14                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Thank you.  

15                 At the request of the sponsors, the 

16    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

18    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.  Should 

19    you choose not to be a cosponsor on the 

20    resolutions, please notify the desk.

21                 Senator Serrano.

22                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Let's please take 

23    up the reading of the calendar.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

25    Secretary will read.


                                                               3752

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    127, Senate Print 1226, by Senator Rivera, an act 

 3    to amend the Public Health Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 8    shall have become a law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

13    Rivera to explain his vote.

14                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

15    Mr. President.

16                 This bill, Mr. President, is a bill 

17    that we voted on last year, that we voted to 

18    basically make -- almost unanimously.  Some of my 

19    colleagues are voting against it.  But we voted 

20    unanimously for it for a very simple reason.  I 

21    believe that we should have a standard process so 

22    that if there's a hospital across the state that 

23    is going to be closing part of itself or the 

24    entire hospital, the impact that it's going to 

25    have on the community that it is in should be 


                                                               3753

 1    measured.  And they should participate in that 

 2    process.  

 3                 It was something that was approved 

 4    almost unanimously both here and in the Assembly.  

 5    It is unfortunate that our Governor vetoed it.  

 6    And when she did, she put a message in that veto 

 7    saying, you know what, we do need to do more for 

 8    community involvement so we're going to do that 

 9    through administrative action.  

10                 And sadly, that has not happened 

11    yet.  So until it does, this bill is still 

12    necessary.  And it's why I'm voting aye on this 

13    bill and why I'm hoping that we can get it to her 

14    desk once again.

15                 Thank you, Mr. President.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

17    Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

18                 Announce the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar 127, voting in the negative are 

21    Senators Gallivan, Griffo, Oberacker, Stec and 

22    Walczyk.

23                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 5.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               3754

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    177, Senate Print 660, by Senator Gianaris, an 

 3    act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 177, voting in the negative are 

15    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Bynoe, 

16    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

17    Helming, Lanza, Martinez, Mattera, Murray, 

18    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

19    Rolison, C. Ryan, Scarcella-Spanton, Stec, 

20    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

21                 Ayes, 36.  Nays, 25.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    402, Senate Print 1194B, by Senator Addabbo, an 


                                                               3755

 1    act to amend the Public Service Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    523, Senate Print 371, by Senator Skoufis, an act 

16    to amend the Public Health Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect 18 months after it shall 

21    have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 


                                                               3756

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 523, voting in the negative are 

 4    Senators Borrello, Gallivan, O'Mara, Ortt and 

 5    Walczyk.

 6                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 5.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    641, Assembly Bill Number 1550, by 

11    Assemblymember Solages, an act to amend the 

12    Civil Practice Law and Rules.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 641, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

25    Griffo, Helming, Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, 


                                                               3757

 1    O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, 

 2    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 3                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 17.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    649, Senate Print 1099, by Senator May, an act to 

 8    amend the Education Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

17    May to explain her vote.

18                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

19    Mr. President.

20                 I am proud to sponsor the two bills 

21    on the agenda today that fight back against 

22    ideological efforts to control the collections of 

23    school and public libraries.

24                 Last year we saw a 92 percent 

25    increase in the number of titles targeted for 


                                                               3758

 1    censorship, with special focus on trying to 

 2    remove books that feature the voices and 

 3    experiences of people who find themselves most 

 4    marginalized in our society:  LGBTQ folks and 

 5    ethnic and religious minorities.  

 6                 Librarians know how important these 

 7    books are to helping lift up, validate, sometimes 

 8    literally rescue a person who faces bullying, 

 9    ostracism or fear because of their identity.

10                 In another branch of literature, two 

11    books that have most frequently been targeted for 

12    censorship are 1984 and A Handmaid's Tale, both 

13    of which should be required reading today as we 

14    try to understand our country's descent into 

15    authoritarianism.  

16                 The freedom to read is fundamental, 

17    and I proudly vote aye.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

19    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

20                 Announce the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 649, voting in the negative are 

23    Senators Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Lanza, 

24    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

25    Stec, Walczyk and Weik.  Also Senator Tedisco.


                                                               3759

 1                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 15.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    650, Senate Print 1100, by Senator May, an act to 

 6    amend the Education Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

16    the results.  

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 650, voting in the negative 

19    are Senators --

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Hold for 

21    one moment.

22                 Senator Krueger to explain her vote.

23                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

24                 I want to thank Senator May for both 

25    the previous bill and this bill.  To be honest, I 


                                                               3760

 1    can't think of anything scarier in this country 

 2    that preventing people from having access to 

 3    books, and libraries from being able to provide 

 4    every book that anyone would ever request of 

 5    them.

 6                 It's been terrifying to watch some 

 7    of the things happening in other states in this 

 8    country, and in other countries throughout 

 9    history where they took books away, they burned 

10    books.  They imagined that's how you could keep 

11    people under control.

12                 So thank you, Senator May.  And 

13    thank you for all my colleagues who vote for 

14    these bills.  And I sincerely do not understand a 

15    no vote on either of these bills.

16                 Thank you.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

18    Krueger to be recorded in the affirmative.

19                 Senator Walczyk to explain his vote.

20                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Thank you, 

21    Mr. President.

22                 The New York State Board of Regents 

23    has absolutely no business in telling our local 

24    public libraries what books they should and 

25    should not have on the shelves.  


                                                               3761

 1                 I vote no.  Thank you.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 3    Walczyk to be recorded in the negative.

 4                 Announce the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 650, voting in the negative are 

 7    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, 

 8    Helming, Lanza, Mattera, Murray, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 9    Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

10                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 16.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    738, Senate Print 274A, by Senator Martinez, an 

15    act to amend the Veterans' Services Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               3762

 1    Calendar Number 738, voting in the negative:  

 2    Senator Walczyk.

 3                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    743, Senate Print 355A, by Senator Rivera, an act 

 8    to amend the Elder Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

12    act shall take effect on the first of April.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    750, Senate Print 1618, by Senator Rivera, an act 

23    to amend the Public Health Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               3763

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 2    act shall take effect on the first of January.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 750, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Gallivan, Helming, 

11    Lanza, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Stec, 

12    Walczyk and Weik.  Also Senator Griffo.

13                 Ayes, 48.  Nays, 13.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    755, Senate Print 3203, by Senator Fernandez, an 

18    act to amend the Public Health Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

23    shall have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               3764

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 3    Fernandez to explain her vote.

 4                 SENATOR FERNANDEZ:   Thank you, 

 5    Mr. President.

 6                 This bill changes one assumption in 

 7    law.  But it could change everything about how 

 8    quickly New Yorkers get access to affordable 

 9    medication.  

10                 Right now, when a brand name drug 

11    company pays a generic company to delay their 

12    product, the law assumes that the deal is 

13    neutral.  We're supposed to believe that that's 

14    business as usual, even when it keeps prices high 

15    and patients waiting.  

16                 This bill flips that presumption.  

17    If there's any money exchanged and delay agreed 

18    to, the law will now presume that that agreement 

19    is anticompetitive.  Because that's what the 

20    evidence shows, that these deals cost consumers 

21    billions and that they block generics from 

22    entering the market for months and sometimes 

23    years.  

24                 This bill doesn't ban all 

25    settlements.  It protects fair ones.  But it 


                                                               3765

 1    makes it clear that if you're being paid to 

 2    pause, the burden on you is to prove that it's 

 3    good for the public.  

 4                 It's a targeted fix, and a 

 5    long overdue one.  I urge my colleagues to vote 

 6    yes.  Thank you.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 8    Fernandez to be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                 Announce the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 755, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

13    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Mattera, Murray, 

14    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

15    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

16                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 20.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    758, Senate Print 3590, by Senator Harckham, an 

21    act to amend the Executive Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 


                                                               3766

 1    shall have become a law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 6    Harckham to explain his vote.

 7                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you very 

 8    much, Mr. President.  

 9                 First, at the outset, I want to 

10    thank Senator Shelley Mayer.  This bill that 

11    we're about to discuss is a collaboration of two 

12    bills on related subject matter.  And I again 

13    thank Senator Mayer for her collaboration and her 

14    insights on this bill.

15                 Mr. President, we debate climate 

16    change and what New York State will do about it 

17    in this chamber almost every week.  And we can do 

18    a little about it, we can do a lot about it.  But 

19    however much we decide to do, we need to address 

20    resiliency, because climate change is here with 

21    us right now -- whether we're dealing with 

22    excessive heat and what it does to our 

23    infrastructure or what it does to health, we're 

24    talking about air quality, we're talking about 

25    relentless storms that punish our transportation 


                                                               3767

 1    network, our culverts and other infrastructure.

 2                 For instance, two local examples.  

 3    In my district we're spending $25 million to lift 

 4    what's called the Annsville Circle.  It's the 

 5    road right outside Camp Smith, which is the 

 6    largest National Guard base in the Lower Hudson 

 7    Valley, across the street from the Hudson River 

 8    that floods at high tide every night because of 

 9    climate-change-induced sea level rise.

10                 So New York State needs to be 

11    prepared for resilience.  This creates the Office 

12    of Resilience and the Chief Resiliency Officer to 

13    coordinate New York's resiliency efforts.  So 

14    there will be a resiliency coordinator in every 

15    state agency, and this position -- again, whether 

16    we're dealing with flooding, excess heat, smoke, 

17    storm preparation, transportation -- this will be 

18    the office that will coordinate those activities.

19                 So thank you for your indulgence, 

20    Mr. President.  

21                 I will be voting aye, and I thank 

22    Senator Mayer for her work on this bill as well.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

24    Harckham to be recorded in the affirmative.

25                 Senator Mayer to explain her vote.


                                                               3768

 1                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

 2    Mr. President.  

 3                 And thank you, Senator Harckham, for 

 4    the nice words.  

 5                 The fact is that when flooding 

 6    occurs in our communities, we are all facing a 

 7    state that is not well enough prepared.  

 8                 And in 2021, after having 

 9    experienced Sandy in my district and in many of 

10    our districts, then Ida, Isaias, it was clear to 

11    me that the state did not have an Office of 

12    Resiliency, as Senator Harckham said, and flood 

13    preparedness that was really looking at best 

14    practices, forcing the agencies to talk to each 

15    other as opposed to talking in silos, and 

16    preparing an executive-level response to 

17    flooding.

18                 So I carried the bill for many 

19    years, and then Senator Harckham's excellent bill 

20    is a combination of mine and some other 

21    suggestions of his.  

22                 But creating an Office of Resiliency 

23    is so overdue.  In my district alone, three 

24    people died during Superstorm Ida.  People died 

25    throughout the state in Superstorm Sandy.  Our 


                                                               3769

 1    municipalities were very weak in speaking to each 

 2    other in terms of coordinating their response.  

 3    And frankly, we have learned the hard way that we 

 4    need to do better for preparing for floods and 

 5    other climate disasters.  

 6                 So I'm very pleased that 

 7    Senator Harckham's bill has made it this far.  

 8    I'm hopeful it's going to get over the finish 

 9    line and get signed by the Governor.  This is 

10    long overdue and will actually put us on par with 

11    states that are more prepared than we are.

12                 I proudly vote aye.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

14    Mayer to be recorded in the affirmative.

15                 Senator Rolison to explain his vote.

16                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Thank you, 

17    Mr. President.

18                 I want to thank Senator Harckham and 

19    Senator Mayer for this bill.  

20                 After getting elected in 2023, we 

21    had the storms in our districts in August of 

22    2023, and many communities are still recovering 

23    from that.  

24                 And one of the things I think that 

25    became so evident is smaller communities have a 


                                                               3770

 1    much more difficult time of reacting to the 

 2    event, the cleanup from the event, and then the 

 3    repairs from the event.  And many communities, 

 4    especially the smaller ones, that can be 

 5    impacted -- whether you're big or small, our 

 6    climate issues are affecting communities of all 

 7    size and shape.  And to be able to afford to do 

 8    it and to find your way through navigating state 

 9    and federal funding can be very difficult.  And 

10    some communities just don't do it.  

11                 So to do more on the front end helps 

12    the back end, because it is not going to stop.  

13    We're going to continue to have these events.  

14    And we need to be better prepared as a state so 

15    we can help communities respond to it and prevent 

16    further damage.

17                 Thank you.  I proudly vote aye, 

18    Mr. President.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

20    Rolison to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                 Announce the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 758, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators Griffo, Ortt and Senator Walczyk.

25                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 3.


                                                               3771

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    762, Senate Print 4950, by Senator Harckham, an 

 5    act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    894, Senate Print 5812, by Senator Sepúlveda, an 

21    act to amend the Public Health Law.

22                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Lay it 

24    aside.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               3772

 1    915, Senate Print 1192, by Senator Addabbo, an 

 2    act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    952, Assembly Bill Number 7424, by 

17    Assemblymember Pheffer Amato, an act to amend the 

18    Executive Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               3773

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1012, Senate Print 610, by Senator Stavisky, an 

 8    act to amend the Education Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

13    shall have become a law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1027, Senate Print 6017, by Senator Baskin, an 

24    act to amend the New York State Urban Development 

25    Corporation Act.


                                                               3774

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the first of April.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 9    Baskin to explain her vote.

10                 SENATOR BASKIN:   Thank you, 

11    Mr. President.

12                 I rise today to support this bill, 

13    as it will provide grants and loans for entities 

14    that want to open up a new grocery store and 

15    expand an existing grocery store operation in 

16    underserved communities.

17                 We know across our state there are 

18    neighborhoods where there are no grocery stores 

19    at all.  No grocery stores where you can buy 

20    fresh groceries for your family.  And some 

21    families don't have a car to drive to the grocery 

22    supermarket.

23                 We know having a grocery store or, 

24    even better, having multiple grocery stores in a 

25    community just simply improves the health of our 


                                                               3775

 1    neighborhood.  

 2                 In my district alone, we have 

 3    Dash's Market in North Buffalo, Camillo's Market 

 4    in Sloan, two family-owned-and-operated grocery 

 5    stores that serve the needs of their neighbors.  

 6    On the East Side of Buffalo we have small family 

 7    grocery stores.  We have Mandella Market, 

 8    Rooted in Love grocery market, and Salud Market.  

 9    These grocery stores and every grocery store like 

10    them deserve opportunities to grow and expand 

11    their ventures.  

12                 Now, this bill passed both houses in 

13    the Legislature last year, but unfortunately was 

14    vetoed by the Governor, who referenced other 

15    existing programs that addressed fresh food 

16    retail in underserved neighborhoods.  

17                 This bill is not the same as those 

18    programs, as it will include the construction of 

19    grocery store as an eligible project for the 

20    Senate's economic development program.  

21                 The Governor also stated in her veto 

22    message that while she is in support of the 

23    spirit of the bill, signing this bill into law 

24    would become a substantial cost that is not 

25    accounted for in the state's fiscal plan.


                                                               3776

 1                 Well, I ask, then, what is the cost 

 2    of not signing this bill into law?  Just last 

 3    week, Mr. President, my colleagues and I in this 

 4    chamber, we remembered the massacre in Buffalo at 

 5    Tops Market on May 14th.  The murderer did his 

 6    research looking for a location that was high 

 7    propensity for Black people.  He found there was 

 8    just one supermarket, an only place where 

 9    Black people shopped for groceries on the 

10    East Side of Buffalo, in a community where the 

11    population was 75 percent Black.

12                 We need not only address food 

13    deserts with this bill, but we leave our 

14    vulnerable communities to be targeted, whether 

15    it's by racist murderers, scam artists, or anyone 

16    else trying to take advantage of decades of 

17    disinvestment.  

18                 And bringing grocery store 

19    development into the state's economic development 

20    plan will help turn around decades of 

21    disinvestment.  

22                 I want to thank my colleagues for 

23    support of this bill in the past.  Today I urge 

24    them to vote in the affirmative again.  And I 

25    encourage our colleagues in the Assembly to pass 


                                                               3777

 1    this bill again.  

 2                 And I look forward to reaching out 

 3    to the Governor and working with her, making sure 

 4    that this bill does get signed in 2025.

 5                 Thank you, Mr. President.  I vote in 

 6    the affirmative.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 8    Baskin to be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                 Senator May to explain her vote.

10                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

11    Mr. President.

12                 And I want to thank Senator Baskin 

13    for this important bill.  

14                 Sadly, the gunman who targeted your 

15    neighborhood initially thought he was going to 

16    come to Syracuse and do the same thing, because 

17    we share a -- this kind of landscape in our 

18    cities where there has been disinvestment and 

19    redlining and all -- the whole history that has 

20    created racial segregation and, among everything 

21    else, food insecurity of a -- of one of the most 

22    profound kinds.

23                 So I am rising in support of a 

24    wonderful organization in Syracuse called FAHNN, 

25    or Food Access Neighborhood Health -- Healthy 


                                                               3778

 1    Neighborhoods -- I can't remember.  But it's just 

 2    a small grassroots organization that decided that 

 3    they need a grocery store on South Salinas Street 

 4    in the valley, where there used to be one but 

 5    there hasn't been in decades.  And where at least 

 6    30 percent of the population have no cars, there 

 7    isn't very regular public transportation, and 

 8    they really don't have access to healthy food at 

 9    all.

10                 So this group has been trying.  I 

11    went -- initially I thought it was really 

12    unrealistic to think about getting a grocery 

13    store there.  But they have been so persistent.  

14    And I think with this bill we may be able to 

15    finally say to them, Yes, the state can help you 

16    realize your dream and make your community 

17    healthier and stronger.  

18                 And I am very excited to move 

19    forward with this.  So thank you for this bill.  

20                 I vote aye.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

22    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

23                 Announce the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 1027, voting in the negative:  


                                                               3779

 1    Senator Walczyk.

 2                 Ayes, 60.  Nays, 1.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1038, Senate Print 856, by Senator Salazar, an 

 7    act to amend the Correction Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

16    Salazar to explain her vote.

17                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Thank you, 

18    Mr. President.  

19                 In passing this bill today we're 

20    taking a step to expand and to diversify the 

21    State Commission of Correction, known as the 

22    SCOC.  

23                 Within just the last six months, 

24    corrections staff in our state prisons have been 

25    indicted for the murders of two incarcerated men, 


                                                               3780

 1    Robert Brooks and Messiah Nantwi.  This violence 

 2    continues in New York's prisons due to systemic 

 3    failures and deeply inadequate oversight.  

 4                 If our prisons had proper oversight 

 5    and accountability, it is possible that 

 6    Mr. Nantwi and Mr. Brooks would still be alive 

 7    today and we could finally address the rampant 

 8    brutality in our prison system.

 9                 Their preventable deaths are a stain 

10    on the State of New York.  As lawmakers we have 

11    an obligation to stop this violence from 

12    continuing.  

13                 The SCOC is statutorily supposed to 

14    provide oversight of our state prisons.  Its 

15    responsibilities include inspecting all 42 state 

16    correctional facilities, conducting 

17    investigations, and even shutting down facilities 

18    when it is necessary.

19                 This bill would increase the number 

20    of commissioners on the SCOC to nine 

21    commissioners, giving the agency the more robust 

22    capacity that it once had.  The status quo of 

23    just three commissioners and a skeleton crew 

24    lacks the capacity to fulfill the SCOC's 

25    obligations.


                                                               3781

 1                 This bill would also require a range 

 2    of expertise to be represented among the 

 3    commissioners, including in criminal defense and 

 4    public health.

 5                 Shock and outrage in response to the 

 6    violence and death in New York's prisons is not 

 7    enough.  This is a crisis that demands meaningful 

 8    action.  

 9                 Thank you to our Majority Leader and 

10    my colleagues for supporting this effort as one 

11    of many that we must take to transform our 

12    state's prison system.

13                 I vote aye.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

15    Salazar to be recorded in the affirmative.

16                 Announce the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 1038, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

20    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, 

21    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

22    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

23                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 21.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               3782

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1045, Senate Print 5142, by Senator Myrie, an act 

 3    to amend the Tax Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1066, Senate Print 682, by Senator Martinez, an 

18    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

23    shall have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               3783

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    1093, Senate Print 6980, by Senator Persaud, an 

 9    act to create a temporary state commission to 

10    study and make recommendations concerning the 

11    incidence of asthma in the Borough of Brooklyn in 

12    New York City.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 


                                                               3784

 1    reading of today's calendar.

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's take up 

 3    the controversial calendar, please.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 5    Secretary will ring the bell.

 6                 The Secretary will read.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    894, Senate Print 5812, by Senator Sepúlveda, an 

 9    act to amend the Public Health Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

11    Borrello, why do you rise? 

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Good afternoon, 

13    Mr. President.  Would the sponsor yield for some 

14    questions.

15                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

16    Mr. President, I absolutely will.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

18    sponsor yields.  

19                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Okay.  Through 

20    you, Mr. President.  

21                 This bill -- to my understanding, 

22    this bill would allow certain providers who 

23    provide pediatric care to opt out of certain 

24    healthcare plans, is that correct?  

25                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Well, not just 


                                                               3785

 1    pediatric -- through you, Mr. President, not just 

 2    pediatric care, but any -- well, yes, pediatric 

 3    care provided to children that are in Healthcare 

 4    Plus.

 5                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Through you, 

 6    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

 7    yield?  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 9    sponsor yield?

10                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

11    Mr. President, I do.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

13    sponsor yields.

14                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you.  

15    Through you, Mr. President.  

16                 So my understanding is this would 

17    allow providers that are under the Child Health 

18    Plus program to basically opt out, and that could 

19    impact the ability for those children to have 

20    consistent care.  How is this bill in the best 

21    interests of the child that's receiving care 

22    versus the provider?

23                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

24    Mr. President.  The genesis of the bill came from 

25    parents whose children are in the program.  And 


                                                               3786

 1    they called us -- they called my office four 

 2    years ago, and they continue to call.  A problem 

 3    they have is their child has a primary care 

 4    physician who is participating in the program; 

 5    however, they have other physicians that they 

 6    want to take their children to.  

 7                 And because Child Health Plus, the 

 8    commercial entities require the providers of 

 9    health to the children to sign up for all the 

10    commercial products that the parents sometimes 

11    don't want to go to the providers within that 

12    plan.  They want to stay with their doctors, they 

13    want to see different doctors.  

14                 And so the bill is designed to give 

15    the parents the option to go to any provider that 

16    they want and they don't -- they're not left out 

17    of Child Care Plus, they don't have to remove 

18    themselves from the plan.  But it gives them more 

19    options to go elsewhere if they're more 

20    comfortable with other physicians.

21                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

22    will the sponsor continue to yield.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

24    sponsor yield?

25                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 


                                                               3787

 1    Mr. President, yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 3    sponsor yields.  

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Well, that 

 5    sounds like a laudable goal.  But my 

 6    understanding of this bill is it allows providers  

 7    to decide whether or not they're going to 

 8    participate, which would actually create some 

 9    problems with continuity of care.  

10                 How does this bill protect a 

11    parent's ability to make sure they get to see the 

12    provider that they want?

13                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

14    Mr. President.  I respectfully disagree with your 

15    characterization that it will stop the quality of 

16    care.  

17                 The quality of care is determined by 

18    the parent.  And if the parent believes that 

19    another physician that's not within the plan can 

20    do a better job with their child, they should 

21    give them the option.  

22                 This is a -- the providers that -- 

23    the plans that require those that are in 

24    Health Care Plus, Child Care Plus to use their 

25    program, what they're doing, it's essentially a 


                                                               3788

 1    bait and switch.  It's either you come here to 

 2    our program, you use all of our commercial 

 3    products, or you cannot participate in this 

 4    program.  That, to me, is a problem.

 5                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

 6    will the sponsor continue to yield?

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 8    sponsor yield?

 9                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

10    Mr. President, yes.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

12    sponsor yields.

13                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So I guess maybe 

14    we have a misunderstanding on how this is going 

15    to work.  

16                 If you're saying -- you're saying 

17    that the insurer is ensuring that they are 

18    participating in all the programs, but this bill 

19    would allow them to decide not to participate in 

20    those programs.  So this is not about the 

21    insured, it's about the provider.

22                 How is this going to guarantee -- I 

23    just don't -- I genuinely don't understand how 

24    this would guarantee that they're going to have 

25    that continuity of care.  It seems like it would 


                                                               3789

 1    be the opposite, because a provider could just 

 2    choose like, I'm going to go with this particular 

 3    program that gives the greatest reimbursement, 

 4    and therefore no longer have a choice for a 

 5    particular insured's plan that now is no 

 6    longer -- that provider is no longer working with 

 7    that plan.  

 8                 So I'm not sure how it achieves that 

 9    goal.

10                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

11    Mr. President.  I don't see your position on how 

12    it's going to create a conflict or an issue for 

13    continuity of care.  Because you're giving the 

14    parents the option.  

15                 And I remind my colleague that the 

16    motivation behind this bill were parents who were 

17    complaining to us about not having the option of 

18    taking their children to another provide -- to 

19    another -- use of their healthcare insurance so 

20    that they can go to another provider that's not 

21    necessarily working with this plan.

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Through you, 

23    Mr. President, will the sponsor continue to 

24    yield.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 


                                                               3790

 1    sponsor yield?

 2                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

 3    Mr. President, yes. 

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 5    sponsor yields.

 6                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So you're saying 

 7    that this bill would allow a provider to not 

 8    participate in a plan, but somehow that's going 

 9    to make sure that the provider participates in 

10    the plan.  I'm not sure how it -- how that works.

11                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

12    Mr. President.  I think your focus is on the 

13    commercial insurance providers rather than the 

14    parents.  

15                 The parents -- the provider of care 

16    can use Child Health Plus for a particular 

17    service.  What the plan, the commercial plans 

18    that allow Child Health Plus are saying, that if 

19    you're going to use Child Health Plus you also 

20    have to use all of the other commercial products 

21    that we have within our plans.  

22                 And that is essentially restricting 

23    parents from using another provider, another 

24    healthcare company -- another provider that uses 

25    another healthcare company to enroll their 


                                                               3791

 1    children with that new provider.

 2                 This is not -- this is not 

 3    provider-centric.  This is parent-centric.

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

 5    will the sponsor continue to yield?

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 7    sponsor yield?  Will the sponsor yield?

 8                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

 9    Mr. President, yes.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

11    sponsor yields.

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Through you, 

13    Mr. President.  So this was not brought to you by 

14    the providers who wish to determine, I guess, the 

15    best reimbursement.  This is a -- we'll call it a 

16    grassroots effort.  There's no providers involved 

17    in the development of this bill?

18                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

19    Mr. President, absolutely not a single -- I've 

20    never spoken to a single provider about this 

21    bill.  

22                 It was essentially, as I indicated 

23    previously, time and again, these were parents 

24    that reached out to my office because they had an 

25    issue that they had to limit their providers on 


                                                               3792

 1    those that accept Child Health Plus.

 2                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

 3    will the sponsor continue to yield?

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Will the 

 5    sponsor yield?

 6                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

 7    Mr. President, I do.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 9    sponsor yields.

10                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So if you didn't 

11    consult with any providers, how do we know that 

12    this is going to solve the problem of what these 

13    parents are experiencing?  I mean, this is really 

14    about providers and which plans they're going to 

15    participate in.  

16                 But isn't there potentially an 

17    unintended consequence here?

18                 SENATOR SEPÚLVEDA:   Through you, 

19    Mr. President.  Again, my focus has always been 

20    on providing -- on giving parents the option to 

21    go and take their children and get healthcare 

22    wherever they want.  My focus is not on the 

23    commercial healthcare companies and their 

24    profits.

25                 So the parents want this.  They want 


                                                               3793

 1    the option to take their children to any provider 

 2    that they want regardless of what the commercial 

 3    health plans are accepting.  And that is the 

 4    focus of this bill.

 5                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

 6    on the bill.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Senator 

 8    Borrello on the bill.

 9                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

10    Senator Sepúlveda.  I appreciate the engagement 

11    here.

12                 So one of my former colleagues said 

13    that Albany is often the land of unintended 

14    consequences.  And I wonder if that's not the 

15    case here, because my reading of this bill is 

16    that it allows providers to decide who they're 

17    going to -- which programs they're going to be 

18    able to participate in.  

19                 And they could really say, Well, 

20    Plan A over here provides more reimbursement than 

21    plan B, so I'm going to choose Plan B, and I 

22    guess that's, you know, somewhat of a decision 

23    they can make.  

24                 But when we're saying -- we're 

25    talking about Child Health Plus program, which is 


                                                               3794

 1    really a state-sponsored program.  Right?  The 

 2    state is sponsoring this.  The state is providing 

 3    this coverage.  We should want them to be able to 

 4    have that maximum impact.  Because children, 

 5    particularly children who have chronic health 

 6    issues like asthma, diabetes and other things, 

 7    they need to have that continuity of care.  

 8                 And this would basically allow the 

 9    providers to kind of jump around a bit.  And 

10    that, to me, would impact the continuity of care 

11    for children, particularly children with chronic 

12    health issues.  

13                 And I believe the sponsor when he 

14    say that this is an effort brought to him by 

15    parents.  But without consultation with providers 

16    and insurance companies on this, I'm afraid the 

17    unintended consequence could be the opposite.  

18                 So I'll be a no on this bill.

19                 Thank you, Mr. President.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Thank 

21    you, Senator Borrello.  

22                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

23    to be heard?

24                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

25    now closed.


                                                               3795

 1                 Senator Gianaris.

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

 3    we've agreed to restore this bill to the 

 4    noncontroversial calendar.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

 6    is restored to the noncontroversial calendar.  

 7                 Read the last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   Announce 

14    the results.  

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 894, voting in the negative are 

17    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

18    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, 

19    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

20    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

21                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 20.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

25    reading of today's calendar.


                                                               3796

 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

 2    Mr. President.  

 3                 If we could return to motions for a 

 4    moment, on behalf of Senator Fahy, I wish to call 

 5    up Senate Print 4722, recalled from the Assembly, 

 6    which is now at the desk.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 8    Secretary will read.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    664, Senate Print 4722, by Senator Fahy, an act 

11    to amend the Arts and Cultural Affairs Law.

12                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to 

13    reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

15    Secretary will now call the roll on 

16    reconsideration.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The bill 

20    is restored to its place on the Third Reading 

21    Calendar.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I offer the 

23    following amendments.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

25    amendments are received.


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 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   On behalf of 

 2    Senator Cleare, on page 53 I offer the following 

 3    amendments to Calendar 1106, Senate Print 3742, 

 4    and I ask that said bill retain its place on the 

 5    Third Reading Calendar.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   The 

 7    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

 8    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 9                 Senator Gianaris.

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there any 

11    further business at the desk?

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   There is 

13    no further business at the desk.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

15    adjourn until tomorrow, Wednesday, May 21st, at 

16    3:00 p.m.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT COONEY:   On 

18    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

19    Wednesday, May 21st, at 3:00 p.m.

20                 (Whereupon, at 4:53 p.m., the Senate 

21    adjourned.)

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