Regular Session - June 11, 2025

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    June 11, 2025

11                      3:25 p.m.

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13                          

14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR SHELLEY B. MAYER, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The Senate 

 3    will come to order. 

 4                 I ask everyone to please rise and 

 5    recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Reading of 

14    the Journal.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Tuesday, 

16    June 10, 2025, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Monday, June 9, 

18    2025, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 The Secretary will read.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Sanders 


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 1    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 2    Assembly Bill Number 1515 and substitute it for 

 3    the identical Senate Bill 3698, Third Reading 

 4    Calendar 389.

 5                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton moves to 

 6    discharge, from the Committee on Veterans, 

 7    Homeland Security and Military Affairs, 

 8    Assembly Bill Number 4649A and substitute it for 

 9    the identical Senate Bill 5397A, Third Reading 

10    Calendar 478.

11                 Senator Sanders moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Judiciary, Assembly Bill 

13    Number 1820A and substitute it for the identical 

14    Senate Bill 3178A, Third Reading Calendar 538.

15                 Senator Rivera moves to discharge, 

16    from the Committee on Health, Assembly Bill 

17    Number 1894 and substitute it for the identical 

18    Senate Bill 3362, Third Reading Calendar 654.

19                 Senator Comrie moves to discharge, 

20    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

21    Number 3698A and substitute it for the identical 

22    Senate Bill 5175A, Third Reading Calendar 716.

23                 Senator Skoufis moves to discharge, 

24    from the Committee on Veterans, Homeland Security 

25    and Military Affairs, Assembly Bill Number 6264 


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 1    and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

 2    5246, Third Reading Calendar 742.

 3                 Senator Jackson moves to discharge, 

 4    from the Committee on Finance, Assembly Bill 

 5    Number 3790 and substitute it for the identical 

 6    Senate Bill 2703, Third Reading Calendar 754.

 7                 Senator Bailey moves to discharge, 

 8    from the Committee on Insurance, Assembly Bill 

 9    Number 1572 and substitute it for the identical 

10    Senate Bill 4963, Third Reading Calendar 923.

11                 Senator Bailey moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Insurance, Assembly Bill 

13    Number 7906A and substitute it for the identical 

14    Senate Bill 7287A, Third Reading Calendar 927.  

15                 Senator Mayer moves to discharge, 

16    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

17    Number 8165 and substitute it for the identical 

18    Senate Bill 7659, Third Reading Calendar 1156.

19                 Senator Fahy moves to discharge, 

20    from the Committee on Education, Assembly Bill 

21    Number 4683 and substitute it for the identical 

22    Senate Bill 6737, Third Reading Calendar 1161.

23                 Senator May moves to discharge, from 

24    the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

25    Number 8023A and substitute it for the identical 


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 1    Senate Bill 7237A, Third Reading Calendar 1165.

 2                 Senator Comrie moves to discharge, 

 3    from the Committee on Labor, Assembly Bill 

 4    Number 4727 and substitute it for the identical 

 5    Senate Bill 50, Third Reading Calendar 1189.

 6                 Senator Rivera moves to discharge, 

 7    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 8    Number 1395 and substitute it for the identical 

 9    Senate Bill 3360, Third Reading Calendar 1260.

10                 Senator Brouk moves to discharge, 

11    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

12    Number 6609A and substitute it for the identical 

13    Senate Bill 7376A, Third Reading Calendar 1312.

14                 Senator Jackson moves to discharge, 

15    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

16    Number 7360 and substitute it for the identical 

17    Senate Bill 6671, Third Reading Calendar 1362.

18                 Senator C. Ryan moves to discharge, 

19    from the Committee on Consumer Protection, 

20    Assembly Bill Number 5405 and substitute it for 

21    the identical Senate Bill 5655, Third Reading 

22    Calendar 1412.

23                 Senator Skoufis moves to discharge, 

24    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

25    Number 6613 and substitute it for the identical 


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 1    Senate Bill 67, Third Reading Calendar 1431.

 2                 Senator Kavanagh moves to discharge, 

 3    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 4    Number 4040A and substitute it for the identical 

 5    Senate Bill 4067A, Third Reading Calendar 1439.

 6                 Senator Stec moves to discharge, 

 7    from the Committee on Investigations and 

 8    Government Operations, Assembly Bill Number 5973 

 9    and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

10    4817, Third Reading Calendar 1440.

11                 Senator Skoufis moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Health, Assembly Bill 

13    Number 1365A and substitute it for the identical 

14    Senate Bill 15A, Third Reading Calendar 1517.

15                 Senator Cleare moves to discharge, 

16    from the Committee on Aging, Assembly Bill 

17    Number 7907 and substitute it for the identical 

18    Senate Bill 7077, Third Reading Calendar 1542.

19                 Senator Palumbo moves to discharge, 

20    from the Committee on Local Government, 

21    Assembly Bill Number 8591 and substitute it for 

22    the identical Senate Bill 8212, Third Reading 

23    Calendar 1574.  

24                 Senator Parker moves to discharge, 

25    from the Committee on Corporations, Authorities 


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 1    and Commissions, Assembly Bill Number 8154 and 

 2    substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 8318, 

 3    Third Reading Calendar 1594.

 4                 Senator Ortt moves to discharge, 

 5    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 6    Number 4014 and substitute it for the identical 

 7    Senate Bill 3637, Third Reading Calendar 1615.

 8                 Senator Tedisco moves to discharge, 

 9    from the Committee on Investigations and 

10    Government Operations, Assembly Bill Number 7312 

11    and substitute it for the identical Senate Bill 

12    7139, Third Reading Calendar 1642.

13                 Senator Webb moves to discharge, 

14    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

15    Number 8299 and substitute it for the identical 

16    Senate Bill 8270, Third Reading Calendar 1660.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   So 

18    ordered.

19                 Messages from the Governor.

20                 Reports of standing committees.

21                 Reports of select committees.

22                 Communications and reports from 

23    state officers.

24                 Motions and resolutions.

25                 Senator Gianaris.


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 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good afternoon, 

 2    Madam President.  

 3                 On behalf of Senator Harckham, I 

 4    wish to call up Senate Print 1982, recalled from 

 5    the Assembly, which is now at the desk.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   

 7                 The Secretary will read.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1607, Senate Print 1982, by Senator Harckham, an 

10    act to amend the General Municipal Law.

11                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to 

12    reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

14    Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is restored to its place on the Third Reading 

19    Calendar.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I offer the 

21    following amendments.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

23    amendments are received.

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   We're going to 

25    start today, Madam President, with the 


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 1    confirmations that we have before us.  

 2                 I believe there's a report of the 

 3    Finance Committee at the desk.  Please take that 

 4    up.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 6    Secretary will read.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Krueger, 

 8    from the Committee on Finance, reports the 

 9    following nominations.  

10                 As a member and chair of the 

11    Public Employment Relations Board:  

12    Timothy Connick.  

13                 As a member of the Public Employment 

14    Relations Board:  Barbara Deinhardt.

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

16    the report of the Finance Committee, and ask that 

17    you recognize Senator Krueger.  

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   All those 

19    in favor of accepting the report of the Finance 

20    Committee please signify by saying aye.

21                 (Response of "Aye.")

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Opposed, 

23    nay.

24                 (No response.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The report 


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 1    of the Finance Committee is accepted.

 2                 Senator Krueger on the nominations.

 3                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you very 

 4    much, Madam President.  

 5                 Well, we've been going through a 

 6    whirlwind of nominations this week.  We're hoping 

 7    not to do it in the last week of session in any 

 8    future year.  

 9                 But we do have two nominees today to 

10    the Public Employment Relations Board, Barbara 

11    Deinhardt -- who is a re-up, so to speak -- and 

12    Timothy Connick to be the chair, or continue to 

13    be the chair of the Public Employment Relations 

14    Board.  

15                 I confess to not necessarily being 

16    an expert in this area of state law.  But I will 

17    tell you, after the meeting and questions of 

18    Mr. Connick at the meeting, I feel like we all 

19    got an incredible tutorial, not only on what this 

20    board does and how important it is, but also some 

21    really important issues that are going to be 

22    before the state very soon because of changes in 

23    federal law and policy when it comes to 

24    employee-employer relations.  

25                 And Mr. Connick's detailed, detailed 


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 1    understanding about what goes on, what is at 

 2    risk, what we need to potentially do, I think 

 3    impressed all of the members of the committee.  

 4                 So I'm hoping that everyone will 

 5    join me in voting yes on today's nominees.

 6                 Thank you very much, 

 7    Madam President.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   All those 

 9    in favor of accepting the report of the -- oh, 

10    excuse me.  

11                 The question is on the nominations.  

12                 Call the roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

18    nominees -- Timothy Connick, as member and chair 

19    of the Public Employment Relations Board, and 

20    Barbara Deinhardt, as member of the 

21    Public Employment Relations Board -- are 

22    confirmed.

23                 Congratulations.

24                 (Standing ovation.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 


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 1    Gianaris.

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   We're going to 

 3    now move on to the supplemental active list, 

 4    which I believe has one bill on it.  Can we take 

 5    that up, please.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 7    Secretary will read.

 8                 There's a substitution at the desk.  

 9                 The Secretary will read.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Baskin 

11    moves to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

12    Assembly Bill Number 785A and substitute it for 

13    the identical Senate Bill 5539, Third Reading 

14    Calendar 1401.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

16    substitution is so ordered.

17                 The Secretary will read.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1401, Assembly Bill Number 785A, by 

20    Assemblymember Solages, an act to amend the 

21    Education Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

25    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 


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 1    shall have become a law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 6    Baskin to explain her vote.

 7                 SENATOR BASKIN:   Oh, I'm sorry.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   To explain 

 9    her vote?

10                 SENATOR BASKIN:   No.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   No, 

12    Senator Baskin is not explaining her vote.

13                 Announce the results.

14                 What?

15                 SENATOR BASKIN:   I'm sorry, Madam 

16    President.  We are on the bill titled "Desha's 

17    Law," correct?  

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   We are on 

19    Calendar 1401, S5539A.

20                 SENATOR BASKIN:   That's it.  Okay, 

21    thank you.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Requiring 

23    school safety plans to include a cardiac 

24    emergency response plan.

25                 SENATOR BASKIN:   Thank you.  Thank 


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 1    you.  Thank you.

 2                 Madam President, I rise today in 

 3    support of this bill that we have affectionately 

 4    named Desha's Law.  I want to thank my cosponsors 

 5    and all of the people from my caucus who 

 6    participated in the activities leading up to this 

 7    bill to help us learn how to save ourselves and 

 8    help residents who are facing cardiac arrest.

 9                 I also want to uplift this caucus 

10    for their actions years prior and those who 

11    worked on establishing Louis's Law, a bill that 

12    has laid the groundwork for the bill before us 

13    today, which established AEDs be in schools 

14    across the state.

15                 Today we are moving forward with 

16    another level of that plan and making sure that 

17    there are plans put in place and training and 

18    clear accessibility measures for AEDs.  And we do 

19    that in honor of Desha Sanders, a young woman, a 

20    relative, and a beloved member of the Buffalo 

21    community in my district who lost her life 16 

22    years ago.  

23                 Today we are joined by Desha's 

24    mother and Desha's stepfather in the gallery, who 

25    have spent the last few years longing for her 


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 1    presence, but today join us in the Senate to 

 2    commemorate her life and help save the lives of 

 3    so many others.  

 4                 Anika, you guys have my esteemed -- 

 5    my heart goes out to you, and I love you so much.  

 6    Thank you so much for all the work you've done to 

 7    keep Desha's spirit alive and well in the State 

 8    of New York.  

 9                 Imagine the joy of watching your 

10    daughter play basketball at her middle school 

11    gym, learning how to strategize, how to hone her 

12    skills, all the while building a camaraderie with 

13    her teammates.  Now imagine that day turning into 

14    a nightmare -- the unthinkable happens.  This 

15    vibrant 12-year-old girl, Desha Sanders, who 

16    suddenly collapsed on the gym floor.

17                 This was the reality for this young 

18    woman, who went into cardiac arrest, just 12 

19    years old.  An automated external defibrillator 

20    was available in her school, but no one could 

21    locate the keys to open the unit.  Why?  Because 

22    no lifesaving plan existed and had ever been 

23    implemented in the school.  

24                 Precious minutes ticked by as 

25    Desha's life hung by a thread.  She was rushed to 


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 1    the emergency room, but tragically Desha died of 

 2    cardiac arrest in the hospital.

 3                 I urge my colleagues today to 

 4    support Desha's Law.  There is an indescribable 

 5    heaviness that I feel when I'm in the presence of 

 6    a mother who is speaking about a baby that 

 7    they've had to lay to rest.  These women are 

 8    unique in kind -- and Anika, you are of those 

 9    women.  I can't imagine as a mother having to go 

10    through such tragedy.  

11                 But today, in her absence, so many 

12    other children will have life.  Because together 

13    it is my hope that this honorable body will pass 

14    this legislation to save so many children from 

15    going through what Desha went through so many 

16    years ago.  

17                 Again, I urge you to support Desha's 

18    Law, which mandates the establishment of cardiac 

19    emergency response plans in New York's schools.  

20    Passing this loophole will spare the same type of 

21    agonizing loss that Desha's family, her friends 

22    and her classmates had endured.  When Desha first 

23    passed on, some of her classmates were 

24    interviewed and recorded in the Buffalo News 

25    years ago.  One said:  "At the end of the day, 


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 1    Desha didn't care what color you were, if you 

 2    were short or if you were tall, if you were 

 3    skinny or if you were fat.  She liked you for who 

 4    you were.  She didn't have a problem with you."

 5                 It is so hard today to remember 

 6    Desha, but I'm so glad and grateful for her 

 7    family.  

 8                 I want to thank my Assembly 

 9    colleague, Assemblymember Solages, who recently 

10    passed the bill today in the Assembly chambers.  

11    I am hopeful that we will pass the bill and that 

12    we can get the Governor to sign it, and there 

13    will be no other student who is in cardiac arrest 

14    waiting for adults or emergency responders to 

15    figure out how to save their life, but they will 

16    be trained and there will be a plan in place.

17                 May Desha's legacy live forever.

18                 Thank you.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

20    Baskin to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                 Announce the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 (Standing ovation.)


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 2    Gianaris.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

 4    I just add my words of appreciation to Desha's 

 5    family for joining us today and sharing their 

 6    pain, and making it productive here in the 

 7    Senate.  

 8                 So thank you.  Thank you very much.

 9                 Let us move on to previously adopted 

10    Resolution 1191, by Senator Ortt, read that 

11    resolution's title and recognize Senator Ortt, 

12    please.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

14    Secretary will read.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1191, by 

16    Senator Ortt, congratulating Shawn MacKinnon upon 

17    the occasion of his retirement after 30 years of 

18    distinguished service to the New York State 

19    Senate.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

21    Ortt on the resolution.

22                 SENATOR ORTT:   Thank you very much, 

23    Madam President.  

24                 And I want to thank all of my 

25    colleagues for a few minutes of their indulgence.  


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 1    I know it's a busy day, we have a lot of bills, 

 2    but we have an important resolution here, a 

 3    surprise resolution.  

 4                 I rise today, I want to 

 5    congratulate, I want to thank a member of our 

 6    family over here on the Senate Republican side, 

 7    Shawn MacKinnon, for 30 years -- where did Shawn 

 8    go?  Where's he hiding?  Way back in the corner 

 9    over there -- 30 years of service to the New York 

10    State Senate.  

11                 Shawn has had a lot of roles in that 

12    30 years -- Senate Finance, budget studies.  He 

13    has been my budget person in my time as leader.  

14    And he's a very loud and boisterous person --

15                 (Laughter.)

16                 SENATOR ORTT:   -- which is what 

17    most people would know about him, gets very 

18    worked up.  

19                 But no, I've had the pleasure to get 

20    to know him over the past several years as a 

21    member of my senior team since being elected 

22    leader.  As secretary to the Finance Committee, 

23    Shawn played a critical role in supporting our 

24    conference, as well as individual Senators, on 

25    budget policy matters, while also training dozens 


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 1    of analysts and imparting his vast institutional 

 2    knowledge.  

 3                 You know, I'm sure my colleagues in 

 4    the Majority, I know our colleagues in the 

 5    Minority, over the years there's something to be 

 6    said about people who have been -- they've been 

 7    through multiple budgets, they've been through 

 8    the different battles, and you start to know, 

 9    when you see things, you go, Oh, we've done this 

10    before.  Or, This is how we did it years ago.  

11    That institutional knowledge.  

12                 And the Senate, if nothing else, is 

13    an institution.  Sometimes one I think we should 

14    all be committed to.  

15                 (Laughter.)

16                 SENATOR ORTT:   But it's definitely 

17    an institution.  And that institution -- as 

18    leader, I've gained more of an appreciation for 

19    the institution.  And Shawn is an institutional 

20    guy.  Thirty years he's spent his life on behalf 

21    of the Senate, on behalf of the people in this 

22    chamber, working obviously on behalf of the 

23    Republican Conference, working with 

24    Senate Finance on the Democratic side as well as 

25    with the Governor's office, the Assembly.


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 1                 And a lot of times, at that staff 

 2    level, that's where a lot of things really do get 

 3    sometimes worked out and massaged.  And Shawn had 

 4    the temperament to make sure that happened.

 5                 He's one of the few staffers and 

 6    maybe legislators who truly understands the state 

 7    school funding formula.  I've been here 11 years; 

 8    I have no idea.  I really don't.  I know whether 

 9    my districts get more or less.  I don't know why 

10    they get more or less.  Because we always spend 

11    more, and yet somehow some end up with less, some 

12    end with more.  

13                 Shawn understands that algorithm 

14    that goes into making that formula work.  And I 

15    know, on behalf of our members, he's been very 

16    helpful on that.  

17                 He has excelled in his public role.  

18    He knows that it takes many hours.  You think of 

19    the staff, they spend a lot of hours in this 

20    building, certainly during session.  He balances 

21    it with his children.  He's also helped inspire 

22    the next generation of budgetary minds as a 

23    professor of statistics at UAlbany and Siena.  

24                 So when he's not here educating our 

25    minds, he's at UAlbany and Siena, and no doubt 


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 1    imparting his wisdom to maybe the next budget 

 2    director or a future budget director in this 

 3    chamber.

 4                 He's an avid sports enthusiast, 

 5    which I always appreciated.  A college basketball 

 6    player, a snowboarder, a very, very big hockey 

 7    fan.  Youth hockey coach.  He founded the 

 8    Clifton Park Dynamo Girls Ice Hockey Program in 

 9    his spare time, which he coached all the way to 

10    the finals, which I think is pretty cool.  As 

11    someone whose sister played hockey, I find that 

12    very cool.  

13                 His commitment to success at youth 

14    sports is almost enough -- now, this is the 

15    part -- I read this this morning, by the way.  I 

16    didn't know this part of his resume, and I almost 

17    pulled the resolution -- he is a Montreal 

18    Canadiens, a New York Yankees -- I know for some 

19    of you that will be just fine -- and a Dallas 

20    Cowboys fan.  

21                 (Laughter.)

22                 SENATOR ORTT:   So let's just say 

23    his sports judgment doesn't equal his financial 

24    judgment, all right?  

25                 (Laughter.)


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 1                 SENATOR ORTT:   Let's just -- we'll 

 2    leave it there.  I want to be nice.

 3                 But all kidding aside, he really is 

 4    a consummate professional.  I know my colleagues 

 5    on both sides, there's a great appreciation for 

 6    the staff very often who work behind the scenes.  

 7    New Yorkers will never know many of these folks, 

 8    and yet their impact on New Yorkers and on the 

 9    work we do here is indelible.  And it's something 

10    that we -- I can't say thank you enough.  

11                 He's been a great addition to our 

12    team.  He has -- he's a proud father to three 

13    wonderful children, as I mentioned, Joe, Madi, 

14    and Casey, who I'm sure are looking forward to 

15    spending more time with their dad.  And again, we 

16    all know the challenge of balancing public 

17    service and family life.  And he has done that 

18    with a lot of grace.  

19                 But he has always been committed 

20    certainly to the Senate, again to the people of 

21    New York, and I would say to the Senate 

22    Republican Conference.  His knowledge is 

23    unparalleled.  I'm going to miss him.  I'm going 

24    to miss him.  He was a great sort of balancer 

25    between certainly me and some of my other -- you 


                                                               5438

 1    know, we get wound up, and then Shawn was always 

 2    the guy that kind of, you know, brings some 

 3    levity or just brings some balance to that 

 4    dynamic.  

 5                 So -- but I wish him well.  And I 

 6    would just ask everyone, certainly on either side 

 7    that has worked with Shawn, that knows Shawn, or 

 8    that has staff of their own and knows how 

 9    invaluable they are to what we do here, to just 

10    rise and say thank you to Shawn MacKinnon for 

11    30 years of service to the people of New York 

12    City and the New York State Senate.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you.  

14                 (Standing ovation.)

15                 SENATOR ORTT:   He's never been more 

16    uncomfortable than right there --

17                 (Laughter.)

18                 SENATOR ORTT:   -- and that's worth 

19    it to me.  

20                 (Laughter.)

21                 SENATOR ORTT:   So I just want to 

22    thank you for your time and thank you for your 

23    indulgence.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

25    Senator Ortt.


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 1                 And to Shawn MacKinnon, 30 years is 

 2    a long time to do well here.  Congratulations to 

 3    you from all of us.  Best wishes.  And we 

 4    acknowledge your incredible contributions to the 

 5    Senate.  Thank you very much.

 6                 The resolution was previously 

 7    adopted on June 10th.

 8                 Senator Gianaris.

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

10    Madam President.  

11                 Congratulations to Shawn.  You know, 

12    I'm hitting 30 years of service next year myself, 

13    so maybe Senator Ortt can give me a resolution.  

14                 (Laughter.)

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I think the 

16    speech would be different.  

17                 (Laughter.)

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I think 

19    Senator Ortt wants to open that resolution for 

20    cosponsorship.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   At the 

22    request of the sponsor, the resolution is open 

23    for cosponsorship.  Should you choose not to be a 

24    cosponsor, please notify the desk.

25                 Senator Gianaris.


                                                               5440

 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   At this time 

 2    we're going to simultaneously take up the 

 3    calendar and call an immediate meeting of the 

 4    Rules Committee in Room 332.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There will 

 6    be an immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in 

 7    Room 332, while we take up the calendar.

 8                 The Secretary will read.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    125, Senate Print 428, by Senator Rivera -- 

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Ssshhh.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   -- an act to amend 

13    the --

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Can we 

15    have some order so we can hear.  Thank you.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    125, Senate Print 428, by Senator Rivera, an act 

18    to amend the Public Health Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5441

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 125, voting in the negative are 

 5    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 6    Chan, Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, 

 7    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

 8    Scarcella-Spanton, Skoufis, Stec, Tedisco, 

 9    Walczyk and Weber.

10                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 19.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    183, Senate Print 410, by Senator Gounardes, an 

15    act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               5442

 1    Calendar 183, voting in the negative are 

 2    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 3    Chan, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

 4    Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

 5    Weber and Weik.

 6                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 17.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    187, Senate Print 2627A, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

11    act to amend the Real Property Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 187, voting in the negative:  

23    Senator Walczyk.  

24                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 


                                                               5443

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    262, Senate Print 1783A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

 4    act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

13    Borrello to explain his vote.

14                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

15    Madam President.  

16                 I think this is quite interesting 

17    that that is a consumer protection bill that says 

18    we want to disclose information.  However, what 

19    they cannot disclose, what this bill prohibits is 

20    if the cost increases for this gas are because of 

21    government regulations.  So it's a bit 

22    hypocritical to say we need to tell people when 

23    you're raising the price because of something 

24    that you have done, but you can't tell them if 

25    the government has done something to increase the 


                                                               5444

 1    cost of that gas.

 2                 So I'm voting no.  It's 

 3    hypocritical.  And we should also recognize the 

 4    fact that we do have a negative impact on prices 

 5    when we overregulate things like we have a 

 6    tendency to do here in New York State.

 7                 Thank you.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 9    Borrello to be recorded in the negative.

10                 Announce the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 262, voting in the negative are 

13    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

14    Chan, Martins, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

15    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Walczyk, Weber and 

16    Weik.

17                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 15.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    274, Senate Print 1634, by Senator Rivera, an act 

22    to amend the Insurance Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 


                                                               5445

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 6    Rivera to explain his vote.

 7                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you so much, 

 8    Madam President.  

 9                 This bill today, my colleagues, is 

10    the Primary Care Investment Act.  And it relies 

11    on something very simple.  The reality is -- I'm 

12    not sure if you know, but as of December 31st of 

13    2024, more than 4.7 million New Yorkers live in 

14    areas that have a shortage of primary care.  

15                 The reality is that there's not 

16    enough money that we're spending on primary care.  

17    And this is not just spending, this would be an 

18    investment.  This bill does nothing to change the 

19    amount of money that the State of New York spends 

20    on health, but instead it changes where that 

21    money goes.  

22                 And the care in this case we're 

23    trying to talk about quality primary care, 

24    Madam President.  And the reality is that what 

25    this bill would do is over a period of time it 


                                                               5446

 1    would increase the spending on primary care until 

 2    it reaches at least 12.5 percent of total 

 3    healthcare spending.  

 4                 And this is not only something that 

 5    is a positive, but ultimately over time it would 

 6    save us money.  Because investing in primary care 

 7    means identifying chronic conditions earlier, 

 8    making sure that people focus on their health and 

 9    not just go to the doctor when they're sick.  

10                 So let's make sure that we invest in 

11    this.  I'm very glad to pass this.  Hopefully we 

12    can get it over the finish line.  I vote in the 

13    affirmative.

14                 Thank you, Madam President.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

16    Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

17                 Senator Bailey to explain his vote.

18                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

19    Madam President.  

20                 Thank you, Senator Rivera, for this 

21    important bill.  An ounce of prevention is worth 

22    a pound of cure.  And it's something that my 

23    grandmother, who was an RN, who was a nurse, 

24    indicated to me when I was growing up.  And it 

25    bears true today.  


                                                               5447

 1                 People don't seek primary care at 

 2    the levels that they do because doctors are not 

 3    seeking primary care as their profession.  

 4    They're incentivized to go to other still very 

 5    important other disciplines, such as neurology 

 6    and orthopedics and so many others.  But primary 

 7    care is that primary -- no pun intended, 

 8    Madam President -- it is that initial entry into 

 9    the medical system.  We should stop using ERs and 

10    urgent cares as our first point of contact.  

11                 And what's happening is as we 

12    redefine what healthcare actually is and what it 

13    should be, we need to make sure that people have 

14    a doctor.  How many people still have their own 

15    primary care doctor?  I know, growing up, 

16    everybody in the neighborhood had the doctor that 

17    they went to.  I don't know how many people have 

18    that anymore.  We need to go back to that way of 

19    thinking, that way of having medical care.  

20                 I proudly vote aye, Madam President.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

22    Bailey to be recorded in the affirmative.  

23                 Announce the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 274, voting in the negative are 


                                                               5448

 1    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 2    Chan, Oberacker, Palumbo, Rhoads, Tedisco, 

 3    Walczyk and Weik.

 4                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 10.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    326, Senate Print 2053A, by Senator Webb, an act 

 9    to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

10                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Lay it aside for 

11    the day, please.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is laid aside for the day.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    389, Assembly Bill Number 1515, by 

16    Assemblymember Weprin, an act to amend the 

17    Banking Law.

18                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Lay it aside for 

19    the day, please.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is laid aside for the day.  

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    455, Senate Print 4548, by Senator Stavisky, an 

24    act to amend the Education Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               5449

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 4    shall have become a law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 455, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Martinez, Walczyk and Weik.

13                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 3.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    478, Assembly Bill Number 4649A, by 

18    Assemblymember Rajkumar, an act to amend the 

19    Veterans' Services Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

24    shall have become a law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 


                                                               5450

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    480, Senate Print 3277, by Senator Skoufis, an 

10    act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

14    act shall take effect on the first of January.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    485, Senate Print 1224, by Senator Rivera, an act 

25    to amend the Social Services Law.


                                                               5451

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 9    Rivera to explain his vote.

10                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you so much, 

11    Madam President.  

12                 This bill -- and I'm very thankful 

13    that we're bringing it today to the floor -- 

14    would be to carve out school-based health centers 

15    permanently out of Medicaid managed care.  

16                 Now, to keep it very, very short, 

17    school-based health centers provide care for 

18    thousands and thousands of children across the 

19    State of New York.  Most of these school-based 

20    health centers, Madam President, are actually not 

21    only just in the city, but they're also in the 

22    Bronx.  And earlier this year we had a little bit 

23    of a scuffle with the second floor related to 

24    them, but I'm glad to know that that was -- that 

25    it was at least resolved for another year.  


                                                               5452

 1                 This, however, this bill, if it goes 

 2    into effect -- and hopefully it does and we can 

 3    get it signed -- would actually carve them out 

 4    permanently out of managed care.  And ultimately 

 5    what we want to make sure that we do is that we 

 6    maintain the care continuity for these kids.  

 7                 And making this transition would 

 8    actually mean that many of these centers would go 

 9    away.  Many of them actually started closing 

10    immediately when we started announcing their 

11    closures, when we said that we were going to make 

12    the transition.  Hopefully we'll be able to 

13    offset it for another year.  

14                 This would actually carve them out 

15    permanently.  I hope we can achieve it so we can 

16    provide the continuity of care to so many kids 

17    all across the state.  

18                 I proudly vote in the affirmative.  

19    Thank you, Madam President.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

21    Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

22                 Senator Oberacker to explain his 

23    vote.

24                 SENATOR OBERACKER:   Thank you, 

25    Madam President.  


                                                               5453

 1                 I'd like to thank the bill's sponsor 

 2    for bringing this bill forward.  

 3                 You know, the 51st Senate District, 

 4    being very rural and very vast, it's really in 

 5    many ways a healthcare desert.  School-based 

 6    health is such an important part, such an 

 7    important part of not only my district but the 

 8    services that it offers.  

 9                 Transportation is huge, as I'm sure 

10    everybody is aware.  For myself, I travel 

11    18 miles one way to get groceries.  Distances are 

12    very vast in our district.  

13                 This allows our children to have the 

14    healthcare they need, the focus that they need, 

15    and allows the parents to actually continue to do 

16    what they do to make this happen.  

17                 It's a great bill.  I want to thank 

18    the bill's sponsor for bringing it forward.  I 

19    support it -- not only do I support it, but I 

20    want to expand upon it and have more of it in my 

21    district.

22                 Thank you.  I vote aye.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

24    Oberacker to be recorded in the affirmative.

25                 Announce the results.


                                                               5454

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    507, Senate Print 5138, by Senator Gianaris, an 

 6    act to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 507, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Bynoe, 

19    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Martinez, Martins, 

20    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, 

21    Rhoads, Rolison, C. Ryan, Scarcella-Spanton, 

22    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

23                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 20.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               5455

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    515, Senate Print 2097A, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

 3    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    538, Assembly Bill Number 1820A, by 

18    Assemblymember Steck, an act to amend the 

19    Real Property Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

24    shall have become a law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 


                                                               5456

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 4    Sanders to explain his vote.

 5                 SENATOR SANDERS:   Thank you, 

 6    Madam President.  

 7                 I'm sure everyone in here has seen 

 8    the days where people could make deeds and say 

 9    that they don't want this group of people or that 

10    group of people to be able to purchase homes in 

11    their neighborhood.

12                 New York has had some of those.  And 

13    now we're going to get rid of these.  The old 

14    ancient evils that have been put on the deeds and 

15    mortgages carry restrictions based on the 

16    question of race, gender, class.  We're not there 

17    anymore.  We were not there in the days of 

18    Jim Crow, those days of infamy.  

19                 But we are here today.  And I'm glad 

20    that the New York State Senate is saying that we 

21    together affirm that the Empire State will have 

22    nothing to do with racism, misogyny or class 

23    hatred.  No longer will we put these in our 

24    deeds, and they will have no force of law.  We 

25    will get rid of all of that and make sure that a 


                                                               5457

 1    deed is an instrument that has no hatred, that is 

 2    giving or upholding any type of hatred.  

 3                 I gladly vote aye.  Thank you.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 5    Sanders to be recorded in the affirmative.

 6                 Announce the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 538, voting in the negative 

 9    are Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

10    Chan, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Tedisco, 

11    Walczyk and Weik.

12                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 10.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    609, Senate Print 5701, by Senator Skoufis, an 

17    act to amend the Correction Law.

18                 SENATOR PALUMBO:   Lay it aside.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is laid aside.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    654, Assembly Bill Number 1894, by 

23    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to repeal 

24    Section 3372 of the Public Health Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               5458

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 654, voting in the negative are 

11    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

12    Helming, Martins, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

13    Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, 

14    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.  Also Senator Griffo.

15                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 18.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    694, Senate Print 2291, by Senator Harckham, an 

20    act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 


                                                               5459

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.  

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    716, Assembly Bill Number 3698A, by 

10    Assemblymember Weprin, an act to amend the 

11    Real Property Tax Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    727, Senate Print 6010, by Senator Baskin, an act 


                                                               5460

 1    to amend the Economic Development Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 727, voting in the negative:  

13    Senator Walczyk.

14                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    742, Assembly Bill Number 6264, by 

19    Assemblymember Stern, an act to amend the 

20    Economic Development Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

24    act shall take effect on the first of April.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 


                                                               5461

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    754, Assembly Bill Number 3790, by 

10    Assemblymember Weprin, an act to amend the 

11    Executive Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

20    Cooney to explain his vote.

21                 SENATOR COONEY:   Thank you, 

22    Madam President.  

23                 I want to thank the bill's sponsor, 

24    Senator Jackson, for this incredibly important 

25    piece of legislation, certainly ensuring that 


                                                               5462

 1    properly trained firefighters are performing 

 2    high-risk interior operations.  

 3                 I heard directly from fire 

 4    departments, certainly in the district I 

 5    represent, but I'm sure many of my colleagues 

 6    heard from their fire departments as well, that 

 7    this is a commonsense, low-cost measure that 

 8    boosts public safety, supports local fire 

 9    departments, and improves statewide transparency, 

10    modernizing our recordkeeping practices to ensure 

11    that those who are most qualified to perform 

12    these most dangerous tasks are the ones doing so.  

13                 Madam President, I vote aye.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

15    Cooney to be recorded in the affirmative.

16                 Announce the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 754, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

20    Helming, Mattera, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Walczyk, 

21    Weber and Weik.

22                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 10.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               5463

 1    757, Senate Print 3560, by Senator Cleare, an act 

 2    to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

11    the results.  

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 757, voting in the negative are 

14    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

15    Chan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, 

16    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, C. Ryan, Stec, 

17    Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.  

18                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 19.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    769, Senate Print 4408, by Senator May, an act to 

23    amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5464

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 769, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

11    Chan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, 

12    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, 

13    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.  

14                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 18.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    923, Assembly Bill Number 1572, by 

19    Assemblymember Weprin, an act to amend the 

20    Insurance Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 


                                                               5465

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 923, voting in the negative are 

 7    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 8    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 9    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, 

10    Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

11    and Weik.

12                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 21.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

14    is passed.  

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    927, Assembly Bill Number 7906A, by 

17    Assemblymember Hunter, an act to amend the 

18    Insurance Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the same date and in the 

23    same manner as Chapter 758 of the Laws of 2022.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               5466

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    965, Senate Print 6685, by Senator Cleare, an act 

 9    to amend the New York City Health and Hospitals 

10    Corporation Act.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

14    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

15    shall have become a law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

23    is passed.  

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    977, Senate Print 2117, by Senator Fahy, an act 


                                                               5467

 1    to amend the Real Property Actions and 

 2    Proceedings Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 7    shall have become a law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

12    the results.  

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 977, voting in the negative are 

15    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

16    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

17    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, 

18    Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

19    and Weik.  

20                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 21.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1077, Senate Print 7678A, by Senator Mayer, an 

25    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.


                                                               5468

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

 2    home-rule message at the desk.

 3                 Read the last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 5    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 6    shall have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 1077, voting in the negative are 

14    Senators Bynoe and Martinez.

15                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1084, Senate Print 3294A, by Senator Cooney, an 

20    act to amend the Cannabis Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 12.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 


                                                               5469

 1    roll.  

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 1084, voting in the negative are 

 7    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Bynoe, 

 8    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Gallivan, Helming, 

 9    Martinez, Martins, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

10    Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

11    Weber and Weik.

12                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 20.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1113, Senate Print 3460, by Senator Gounardes, an 

17    act to amend the Labor Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5470

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1113, voting in the negative are 

 5    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 6    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 7    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, 

 8    Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

 9    and Weik.

10                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 21.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1115, Senate Print 4467, by Senator Mayer, an act 

15    to amend the Workers' Compensation Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.


                                                               5471

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1126, Senate Print Number 3043A, by 

 5    Senator Hoylman-Sigal, an act to amend the 

 6    Real Property Actions and Proceedings Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 1126, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

19    Helming, Martins, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, 

20    Palumbo, Rolison, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and 

21    Weik.  Also Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick.

22                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 16.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               5472

 1    1130, Senate Print 5708, by Senator Skoufis, an 

 2    act to amend the General Business Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 7    shall have become a law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 1130, voting in the negative are 

15    Senators Gallivan and Borrello.  

16                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1156, Assembly Bill Number 8165, by 

21    Assemblymember Burdick, an act to amend the 

22    General Municipal Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is a 

24    home-rule message at the desk.

25                 Read the last section.


                                                               5473

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1156, voting in the negative:  

10    Senator Skoufis.

11                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1161, Assembly Bill Number 4683, by 

16    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

17    Education Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 


                                                               5474

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1165, Assembly Bill Number 8023A, by 

 7    Assemblymember Kassay, an act to amend the 

 8    Civil Service Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2. This act 

12    shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

17    May to explain her vote.  

18                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

19    Madam President.  

20                 I am proud to vote for this bill.  

21    We in my office affectionately call it 

22    Steve's Bill, because Steve Gamache, of the 

23    Legislative Commission on Rural Resources, was 

24    meeting with rural municipal leaders on workforce 

25    issues and they told him that one of the biggest 


                                                               5475

 1    problems they had was getting the word out about 

 2    job openings that they had.  They had no 

 3    centralized way to do this.  

 4                 And Steve came up with a very 

 5    elegant solution, which was to create a portal in 

 6    the Department of Civil Service's state jobs 

 7    website where local governments could upload job 

 8    listings as well.  

 9                 Local governments are really excited 

10    about this, and I'm proud that it has come to the 

11    floor.  And I happily vote aye.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

13    May to be recorded in the affirmative.

14                 Announce the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   And the 

17    bill is passed.  

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1189, Assembly Bill Number 4727, by 

20    Assemblymember Bronson, an act to amend the 

21    Workers' Compensation Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               5476

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 1189, voting in the negative are 

 8    Senators Borrello, Rhoads and Walczyk.

 9                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 3.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1231, Senate Print 2329, by Senator Rivera, an 

14    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

18    act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 

19    shall have become a law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

24    Rivera to explain his vote.

25                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 


                                                               5477

 1    Madam President.  

 2                 I want to thank the leader for 

 3    allowing this bill to come to the floor, but also 

 4    Community Board 6 in the Bronx.  

 5                 This is actually an issue that 

 6    certainly happens all around our state, but in 

 7    this case we're dealing with something that is 

 8    strictly in the city, so this does not impact 

 9    anywhere else in the state.  

10                 But what Community Board 6 found, 

11    Madam President, was that along Jerome Avenue in 

12    my district, there was a whole host of auto 

13    repair shops that were popping in and out, 

14    popping on and off, and then taking over all the 

15    space on the sidewalk, making things unsafe and 

16    dirty, et cetera.  

17                 And all this bill does is it allows 

18    in the City of New York for community boards to 

19    do a process very much like what happens with 

20    liquor licenses.  In the case of community boards 

21    across the City of New York, they get to weigh in 

22    on the issue of whether they want certain 

23    establishments to offer alcohol, and they weigh 

24    whether they want -- they have enough of them, 

25    et cetera.


                                                               5478

 1                 And in this case this would create a 

 2    similar process as it relates to auto body shops.  

 3                 This is not something that is 

 4    against small businesses.  Instead, we have many 

 5    responsible shop owners who are in agreement with 

 6    this bill.  

 7                 And I am looking forward to getting 

 8    it implemented because, again, I believe that in 

 9    the City of New York community boards should have 

10    a role in determining whether these types of 

11    establishments come to their neighborhood, and if 

12    they do, if they follow all the rules and 

13    everything is fine, then everything can go 

14    forward.  And I'm hoping that we can get it done.  

15                 Thank you, Madam President.  I vote 

16    in the affirmative.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

18    Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.

19                 Announce the results.  

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 1231, voting in the negative are 

22    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

23    Lanza, Martins, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

24    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and Weber.

25                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 15.


                                                               5479

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1260, Assembly Bill Number 1395, by 

 5    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

 6    Public Health Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the first of January.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 1260, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Borrello, Chan, Lanza, Martinez, 

19    Oberacker, Tedisco and Walczyk.

20                 Ayes, 52.  Nays, 7.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1279, Senate Print 4640A, by Senator Fernandez, 

25    an act to amend the Public Health Law.


                                                               5480

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1279, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

13    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec and 

14    Walczyk.

15                 Ayes, 49.  Nays, 10.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1294, Senate Print 4509, by Senator Ramos, an act 

20    to amend the Workers' Compensation Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 


                                                               5481

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 1294, voting in the negative:  

 7    Senator Walczyk.

 8                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1312, Assembly Bill Number 6609A, by 

13    Assemblymember Lunsford, an act in relation to 

14    authorizing Karol Hughes to take the competitive 

15    civil service examination for the position of 

16    police officer.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is a 

18    home-rule message at the desk.

19                 Read the last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 


                                                               5482

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1318, Senate Print 4649A, by Senator Cooney, an 

 7    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect January 1, 2026.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

16    Cooney to explain his vote.

17                 SENATOR COONEY:   Thank you, 

18    Madam President.

19                 This morning three DOT workers were 

20    hit in Steuben County, in Senator O'Mara's 

21    district.  Two weeks ago we lost the life of 

22    Robert Bornt in a work zone doing his DOT work in 

23    Rensselaer County, in Senator Ashby's district.

24                 Let me remind my colleagues it is 

25    our responsibility to keep highway workers and 


                                                               5483

 1    motorists safe on our state roadways.  Highway 

 2    workers put in the work every day to make sure 

 3    our roads are safe for drivers and to get 

 4    New Yorkers from Point A to Point B.  We have to 

 5    make sure that we're keeping them safe, the 

 6    workers safe, while on the job so they can return 

 7    home to their families at the end of the night.  

 8    We owe it to them.  

 9                 Unfortunately, we've experienced 

10    multiple fatal tragedies this year on our Thruway 

11    alone, with workers like Stephen Ebling and 

12    Vincent Giammarva tragically losing their lives 

13    while on the job.  

14                 A 2021 survey showed that nearly 

15    40 percent of drivers ignore the "move over" laws 

16    that this legislative body passed.  Meaning that 

17    they're not slowing down and they're not moving 

18    over to the next lane.  

19                 This isn't just for our highway 

20    workers, it's also for our police, our tow-truck 

21    drivers, even everyday drivers like you and I.  

22    When you see a vehicle on the side of the road, 

23    it is time to move over to the left-hand lane to 

24    promote safe driving for all.  

25                 I am proudly sponsoring this 


                                                               5484

 1    legislation to increase penalties for drivers who 

 2    fail to move over.  We have to send a message 

 3    that this stops now.  Stronger penalties are 

 4    necessary to make it clear that moving over is 

 5    not a choice, it is our responsibility as 

 6    New York drivers.

 7                 Madam President, I vote aye.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 9    Cooney to be recorded in the affirmative.

10                 Senator Oberacker to explain his 

11    vote.

12                 SENATOR OBERACKER:   Thank you, 

13    Madam President.  

14                 Again, as a cosponsor of this bill, 

15    I want to thank Senator Cooney for bringing it 

16    forward.

17                 Again, I've said several times here 

18    on the floor sometimes we get it right.  This one 

19    we've gotten right.

20                 You know, I use the term -- I don't 

21    use the term.  Let me preface that, 

22    Madam President.  I don't use the term "common 

23    sense" anymore.  I use a term called "country 

24    sense," because common sense isn't so common 

25    anymore.  


                                                               5485

 1                 And if you really think about it, 

 2    and what Senator Cooney brought up, a lot of 

 3    these incidences are up into the more rural and 

 4    country areas that I represent and many others.

 5                 Folks, we need to slow down, we need 

 6    to be aware, and we need to move over.  Great 

 7    bill.  I proudly vote aye.

 8                 Thank you.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

10    Oberacker to be recorded in the affirmative.

11                 Announce the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1340, Senate Print 614, by Senator Rivera, an act 

17    to amend the Social Services Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5486

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 2    Rivera to explain his vote.

 3                 SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 4    Madam President.  

 5                 I'm very proud to be voting in the 

 6    affirmative on this bill.  It is a bill we call 

 7    the Transitional Reentry Health Act, 

 8    Madam President.  

 9                 There's many folks who are currently 

10    incarcerated who are going to come back to our 

11    communities.  And that transition is a very tough 

12    one for many of them.  As a matter of fact, data 

13    tells us that people are, in the first two weeks 

14    after being let -- after coming back home, people 

15    are 13 times more likely to die, and 130 times 

16    more likely to die of overdose in those two weeks 

17    when they come back.  

18                 Because the reality is that we can't 

19    be surprised that while everything happens while 

20    folks are incarcerated, there are folks who come 

21    back with high rates of illness, substance abuse 

22    disorder, and other health conditions.  

23                 So this bill would provide 

24    presumptive Medicaid eligibility for folks so 

25    that they can have that continuity of care.  As 


                                                               5487

 1    they come back home so that they -- when they're 

 2    looking for a job, they're looking for stability, 

 3    this provides them the level of at least safety 

 4    and knowing that they have medical services 

 5    available to them.  And this is an incredibly 

 6    important thing that we've been trying to get 

 7    done for a long time.  

 8                 I should point out that this is 

 9    something that would only be created with federal 

10    approval.  But this bill would actually tell the 

11    state to go out and seek it.  

12                 And again, I just think it makes 

13    sense.  It makes sense not only for saving money, 

14    but certainly for making it so that folks who are 

15    incarcerated and leaving these facilities, who 

16    are -- as we sometimes forget, Madam President -- 

17    overwhelmingly most of the people who are 

18    incarcerated will come back home.  

19                 We want to make sure that as they do 

20    that, they have some continuity of care.  This 

21    bill would make sure that that happens.  I'm 

22    proud to vote in the affirmative.

23                 Thank you.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

25    Rivera to be recorded in the affirmative.


                                                               5488

 1                 Announce the results.  

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1340, voting in the negative are 

 4    Senators Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

 5    Helming, Lanza, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 6    Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

 7    and Weik.

 8                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 17.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1343, Senate Print 1139, by Senator Gonzalez, an 

13    act to amend the State Technology Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

17    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

18    have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

23    Gonzalez to explain her vote.

24                 SENATOR GONZALEZ:   Thank you, 

25    Madam President.  


                                                               5489

 1                 Last year during the height of the 

 2    budget process a cyberattack targeted the state's 

 3    Legislative Bill Drafting Commission.  This 

 4    crucial body, entrusted with crafting and 

 5    printing bills, found itself disabled, leaving us 

 6    temporarily hanging in limbo.  

 7                 The situation highlighted a 

 8    significant problem.  The most critical bodies of 

 9    our state government remain alarmingly vulnerable 

10    to cybersecurity breaches.  

11                 As our government systems 

12    increasingly rely on digital systems for all 

13    functions, including communications and data 

14    storage, we desperately need stronger protections 

15    for sensitive information.  Lapses in 

16    cybersecurity could hamper operations of our 

17    state's most critical systems, and as a state 

18    government readiness just isn't an option, it's 

19    an imperative.  

20                 The implementation of this bill of 

21    multifactor authentication for local and remote 

22    network access can significantly reduce the 

23    vulnerability of our government-run information 

24    systems.  According to CISA, most network 

25    breaches come from weak or undersecured login 


                                                               5490

 1    credentials, and entities that use MFA are 

 2    99 percent less likely to be compromised than 

 3    those without it.  

 4                 We cannot let another year go by 

 5    without this critical legislation, and that is 

 6    exactly why I want to thank our leadership and 

 7    this body for passing this multifactor 

 8    authentication bill.  

 9                 And with that, I enthusiastically 

10    vote aye.  Thank you.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

12    Gonzalez to be recorded in the affirmative.

13                 Announce the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1343, those Senators voting in the 

16    negative are Senators Borrello, Hinchey, C. Ryan 

17    and Walczyk.

18                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 4.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1346, Senate Print 1996, by Senator Sanders, an 

23    act establishing the New York State Public Bank 

24    Commission to study the benefits of a public bank 

25    or a network of public banks owned by the State 


                                                               5491

 1    of New York.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

 5    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 6    shall have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

11    Borrello to explain his vote.

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

13    Madam President.  

14                 This bill creates a commission to 

15    study whether or not we should create a study, is 

16    my understanding, on a public bank.  But we're -- 

17    first of all, there's no Republican appointments 

18    on this, which I find, you know, troubling.  

19                 But more importantly, there's a cost 

20    associated with this.  And we're going to have to 

21    hire a consultant to decide if we're going to 

22    hire another consultant to decide whether or not 

23    we want to study a public bank.  

24                 So I think this is kind of a waste 

25    of money, and I'll be voting no.  Thank you.  


                                                               5492

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 2    Borrello to be recorded in the negative.

 3                 Announce the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1346, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 7    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 8    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, 

 9    Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

10    and Weik.

11                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 21.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1352, Senate Print 4271, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

16    act to amend the Banking Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

21    shall have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 


                                                               5493

 1    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to explain her vote.

 2                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 3    Thank you, Madam President.  

 4                 And while I understand the need to 

 5    further professionalize the consumer debt 

 6    collection industry, I have some concerns about 

 7    this legislation, its vagueness, its high cost, 

 8    and its requirements that conflict with existing 

 9    state law that will put an untenable strain on 

10    small businesses, which are 85 percent of this 

11    business.  It's going to lead to further 

12    consolidation of the collection industry.  

13                 The bill is an unfunded mandate that 

14    the Department of Financial Services will really 

15    have no means to enforce what this bill requires.  

16                 And the bill is also vastly 

17    different from existing New York law for 

18    DFS licensees.  With respect to preemption, no 

19    other DFS licensee must also be subjected to a 

20    separate New York City licensing regime, and this 

21    dual licensing requirement will be exceptionally 

22    onerous on small businesses. 

23                 With regard to bonding, no other 

24    DFS licensee has a bonding requirement.  And this 

25    bill would require collection agencies to receive 


                                                               5494

 1    bonds based on gross profits of the licensee.  

 2    Under the bill, the licensees would need to 

 3    obtain a bond on a sliding scale ranging from 

 4    $10,000 to $100,000.  

 5                 And with regard to annual licensing 

 6    requirements, all other DFS licenses are issued 

 7    for life unless they are revoked by DFS or 

 8    surrendered by the licensee.

 9                 This licensing bill would require 

10    collection agencies, and only collection 

11    agencies, to apply and receive an annual license.

12                 So for those reasons, 

13    Madam President, I'm going to be voting in the 

14    negative.  Thank you.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

16    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to be recorded in the 

17    negative.  

18                 Senator Kavanagh to explain his 

19    vote.

20                 SENATOR KAVANAGH:   Thank you, 

21    Madam President.  

22                 Just briefly, this is a great step 

23    that we're taking today.  Thirty states in the 

24    United States license debt collectors because 

25    they understand that debt collectors can often 


                                                               5495

 1    engage in really onerous practices that affect 

 2    the lives of New Yorkers and their own citizens 

 3    every day.

 4                 By licensing debt collectors, we 

 5    will allow DFS to have the tools necessary to 

 6    properly enforce the laws, both federal and state 

 7    credit laws and debt collection laws.

 8                 It is a fact that New York City has 

 9    had a very long-standing licensing requirement 

10    and a whole regime to enforce that.  So we are 

11    leaving that in place.  But this bill will extend 

12    the kind of protections that residents of 

13    30 states and the City of New York have to the 

14    rest of the state.

15                 I appreciate the leadership for 

16    bringing this forward and my colleagues for 

17    supporting it today.  Thank you.  And I'll be 

18    voting aye.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

20    Kavanagh to be recorded in the affirmative.

21                 Announce the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 1352, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

25    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Ortt, Tedisco, 


                                                               5496

 1    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 2                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 12.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1358, Senate Print 6025, by Senator Brouk, an act 

 7    to amend the Social Services Law.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 1358, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators O'Mara, Ortt, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

19                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 5.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1362, Assembly Bill Number 7360, by 

24    Assemblymember Pheffer Amato, an act to amend the 

25    Retirement and Social Security Law.  


                                                               5497

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is a 

 2    home-rule message at the desk.

 3                 Read the last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1370, Senate Print 5729, by Senator Harckham, an 

16    act to amend the Executive Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               5498

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1402, Senate Print 6734, by Senator Fahy, an act 

 6    to amend the Education Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 1402, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Borrello, Chan, Martins, Oberacker, 

19    O'Mara, Ortt and Weik.

20                 Ayes, 52.  Nays, 7.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1408, Senate Print 1228C, by Senator Gianaris, an 

25    act to amend the General Business Law.


                                                               5499

 1                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside for 

 2    the day.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is laid aside for the day.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1412, Assembly Bill Number 5405, by 

 7    Assemblymember Hunter, an act to amend the 

 8    General Business Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar 1412, voting in the negative:  

20    Senator Walczyk.

21                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1414, Senate Print 6985, by Senator May, an act 


                                                               5500

 1    to amend the General Business Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 5    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 6    shall have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 1414, voting in the negative are 

14    Senators Borrello, Chan, Helming, O'Mara, Ortt 

15    and Walczyk.

16                 Ayes, 53.  Nays, 6.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1425, Senate Print 8185, by Senator Salazar, an 

21    act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               5501

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 1425, voting in the negative are 

 8    Senators Walczyk and Lanza.

 9                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.  

10                 Also Senator Helming, pardon me.  

11                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 3.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1431, Assembly Bill Number 6613, by 

16    Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend the 

17    Public Officers Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.  

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 


                                                               5502

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1431, voting in the negative are 

 4    Senators Martins and Oberacker.

 5                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1433, Senate Print 1130, by Senator May, an act 

10    to amend the Executive Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 1433, voting in the negative are 

22    Senators Ashby, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

23    Gallivan, Griffo, Lanza, Mattera, Palumbo, 

24    Rhoads, C. Ryan, Stec, Walczyk and Weik.

25                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 13.


                                                               5503

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1438, Senate Print 3836, by Senator Hinchey, an 

 5    act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

11    roll.  

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1439, Assembly Bill Number 4040A, by 

20    Assemblymember Lasher, an act to amend the 

21    Executive Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.  


                                                               5504

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 5    Kavanagh to explain his vote.

 6                 SENATOR KAVANAGH:   Thank you, 

 7    Madam President.  

 8                 This is a very important bill that 

 9    basically establishes in New York State law the 

10    standard that has been applicable throughout the 

11    country for addressing concerns that people might 

12    be discriminating in housing.  

13                 It has been longstanding law 

14    throughout the country that if you can 

15    demonstrate that a practice has a disparate 

16    impact on a protected class of people, that you 

17    have a case of discrimination.  

18                 It is the -- at the federal level, 

19    that standard has recently been undermined.  And 

20    because New York authorities have been able to 

21    enforce the federal law for a long time, it was 

22    not necessary to codify that in New York law.  

23                 This bill codifies that in New York 

24    law.  It is effectively maintaining the status 

25    quo in housing discrimination.  To my knowledge, 


                                                               5505

 1    no representative of the real estate industry or 

 2    anybody else is opposing it today.  

 3                 I urge my colleagues to join me in 

 4    supporting this very basic standard upholding our 

 5    notion that people should not face discrimination 

 6    in housing.

 7                 Thank you.  I'll be voting aye.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 9    Kavanagh to be recorded in the affirmative.

10                 Announce the results.  

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 1439, voting in the negative are 

13    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

14    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

15    Mattera, Oberacker, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

16    Rolison, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

17                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 18.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1440, Assembly Bill Number 5973, by 

22    Assemblymember Jones, an act to amend the 

23    Public Officers Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5506

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1440, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Brisport, Fahy and Weik.

11                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 3.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1454, Senate Print 8170, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

16    act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

25    the results.  


                                                               5507

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2    Calendar 1454, voting in the negative are 

 3    Senators Ashby, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan 

 4    and Senator Walczyk.

 5                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 4.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1501, Senate Print 7224, by Senator Persaud, an 

10    act to amend the Social Services Law.

11                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay the bill 

12    aside for the day.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

14    is laid aside for the day.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1511, Senate Print 7713, by Senator Krueger, an 

17    act to amend the General Business Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5508

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 2    Krueger to explain her vote.

 3                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you very 

 4    much.  

 5                 So what this bill says is that when 

 6    you go through an E-ZPass in our state -- that's 

 7    the most common form of license plate tracking 

 8    for data purposes -- that you can't sell that 

 9    data to other states or give it to other states 

10    if they intend to use it for tracking purposes by 

11    law enforcement involving reproductive health.

12                 Now, most people would go, What am I 

13    talking about?  Why would we need this law?  So 

14    I'll use one example.  One woman in Texas got an 

15    abortion.  It's not legal in that state, so of 

16    course she was traveling to another state, as is 

17    commonly happening throughout this country.

18                 So a Texas cop used 83,000 cameras 

19    to track her down, to figure out where she was, 

20    where she had driven to on what days to try to 

21    connect that to the fact that she got an abortion 

22    outside the State of Texas.

23                 Thousands of women in this country 

24    are now forced to leave their home state to go to 

25    other states, including ours, to get an abortion, 


                                                               5509

 1    because a fundamental health protection is no 

 2    longer available to them.  

 3                 And the concept, even though we have 

 4    said in our laws we aren't going to cooperate 

 5    with other states trying to track these women 

 6    down, the states are doing it without even having 

 7    to go through us.

 8                 So this would say, no, you can't 

 9    provide this data to law enforcement so they can 

10    track any person to see whether they might be 

11    choosing reproductive healthcare somewhere else.  

12                 It's outrageous, and an important 

13    bill to pass.  I hope people will vote yes.  

14                 Thank you, Madam President.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

16    Krueger to be recorded in the affirmative.

17                 Announce the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar 1511, voting in the negative are 

20    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

21    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Mattera, 

22    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

23    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

24                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 19.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 


                                                               5510

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1517, Assembly Bill Number 1365A, by 

 4    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

 5    Public Health Law.

 6                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 8    is laid aside.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1520, Senate Print 595, by Senator Hinchey, an 

11    act to amend the Private Housing Finance Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 1520, voting in the negative are 

23    Senators Griffo, Walczyk and Weik.  Also 

24    Senator Borrello.

25                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 4.


                                                               5511

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1542, Assembly Bill Number 7907, by 

 5    Assemblymember Seawright, an act to amend the 

 6    Elder Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1550, Senate Print 7689A, by Senator Skoufis, an 

22    act to amend the Election Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 11.  This 


                                                               5512

 1    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 2    shall have become a law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 7    Skoufis to explain his vote.

 8                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Thank you very 

 9    much, Madam President.  

10                 This bill looks to address something 

11    called the Federal Post Card Application, which 

12    are throughout the country governed by state laws 

13    and regulations.  The FPCA is something prior to 

14    six months ago I'd never even heard of.  

15                 But upon digging into this issue, 

16    which relates to how overseas voters can cast 

17    ballots from wherever they are in the world, only 

18    3.4 percent of eligible overseas voters actually 

19    cast a ballot and turned out in elections.  And 

20    that's at least in the last midterm election, 

21    2022, that statistic.

22                 Meanwhile, in 2022, the national 

23    turnout for those living in the United States 

24    exceeded 60 percent.  

25                 And one of the reasons why we have 


                                                               5513

 1    in New York an even lower than a 3.4 percent 

 2    overseas voter turnout number is because we have 

 3    some of the most inaccessible FPCA laws in the 

 4    country.  We're one of only I believe four or 

 5    five states that does not allow for electronic 

 6    return of these FPCAs.  So you've got to be able 

 7    to go to a post office and do snail mail, and in 

 8    some of these countries there are no post 

 9    offices.  There's no postal service to be able to 

10    get an FPCA back to New York.  

11                 Additionally, when you are casting 

12    your absentee ballot, you get it in the mail and 

13    you look to cast your ballot months later, you've 

14    got to include another copy of the FPCA in the 

15    envelope with your absentee ballot, a redundant 

16    copy of the FPCA which is already on file at the 

17    local board of election.

18                 And so, you know, this will 

19    meaningfully increase turnout from overseas 

20    voters, including military voters who are serving 

21    our nation overseas.  

22                 And I look forward to casting my 

23    vote in the affirmative and encourage my 

24    colleagues to do the same.

25                 Thank you.


                                                               5514

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 2    Skoufis to be recorded in the affirmative.

 3                 Announce the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1550, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 7    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 8    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, 

 9    Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

10                 Ayes, 39.  Nays, 20.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1554, Senate Print Number 7806, by 

15    Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, an act to amend 

16    Chapter 676 of the Laws of 1978.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There's a 

18    home-rule message at the desk.  

19                 Read the last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 


                                                               5515

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1554, voting in the negative:  

 4    Senator Fahy.

 5                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1574, Assembly Bill Number 8591, by 

10    Assemblymember Schiavoni, an act to amend 

11    Chapter 387 of the Laws of 2013.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

20    the results.  

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 1574, voting in the negative:  

23    Senator Skoufis.

24                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 


                                                               5516

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1588, Senate Print 8275, by Senator Griffo, an 

 4    act to amend Chapter 332 of the Laws of 2019.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

13    the results.  

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1588, voting in the negative are 

16    Senators Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Harckham, Lanza, 

17    Martinez, C. Ryan, Scarcella-Spanton, Skoufis and 

18    Weik.

19                 Ayes, 51.  Nays, 8.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Also -- pardon me.  

23    Also Senator Chan.  

24                 Ayes, 50.  Nays, 9.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 


                                                               5517

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1594, Assembly Bill Number 8154, by 

 4    Assemblymember Braunstein, an act to amend the 

 5    Executive Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

14    the results.  

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 1594, voting in the negative are 

17    Senators Ashby, Lanza and Walczyk.

18                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 3.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1595, Senate Print 8321, by Senator Rolison, an 

23    act to amend Chapter 339 of the Laws of 2023.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5518

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1595, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Harckham, Lanza, 

11    Martinez, C. Ryan, Scarcella-Spanton, Skoufis and 

12    Weik.

13                 Ayes, 51.  Nays, 8.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1610, Senate Print 3207A, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

18    act to amend the Public Health Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

23    have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               5519

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1610, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Borrello, Lanza and Weik.

 7                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 3.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1611, Senate Print 3231, by Senator Bailey, 

12    Concurrent Resolution of the Senate and Assembly 

13    proposing an amendment to Section 1 of Article 2 

14    of the Constitution.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

19    Bailey to explain his vote.

20                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

21    Madam President.  

22                 This bill is a very simple bill.  If 

23    you are 17 and you turn 18 prior to when the 

24    general election is going to be undertaken, you 

25    will be able to vote in the primary election for 


                                                               5520

 1    state, county, city and village primaries.  Very 

 2    simple.  

 3                 But it's interesting, I see people 

 4    voting no.  And all of us bring young people 

 5    regularly in this chamber, and we profess the 

 6    importance of civic importance in education.  We 

 7    fund their programs, we laud them for the great 

 8    work they do.  But if they're 17 and they happen 

 9    to turn 18 before the regular general election, 

10    we don't want them to vote in the primary.  

11                 So I'm going to break this down.  

12    Twenty-one states already do this, 

13    Madam President, including liberal bastions such 

14    as Mississippi, West Virginia, Nebraska and 

15    Indiana.  As a matter of fact, Madam President, 

16    if we were to do this in a red or a blue state, 

17    if you looked at the Electoral College in 2024, 

18    11 of the 21 states that do this voted for 

19    President Trump.  

20                 But, you know, we want to make sure 

21    that everybody's voice is heard and vote is 

22    counted.  And so by the year 2028, millennials 

23    and Gen Z voters will account for half of the 

24    electorate.  Why do we not want younger people to 

25    be involved in the process?  


                                                               5521

 1                 In New York City, 16-year-olds can 

 2    now be members of community boards, and it has 

 3    spiked youth engagement.  

 4                 We want young people to be able to 

 5    populate these seats one day.  But they can't do 

 6    it if they can't see it.  And the reason how they 

 7    start seeing it, they start practicing by voting 

 8    early.

 9                 I vote aye, Madam President.  And 

10    hopefully by the time this comes around next year 

11    some of my colleagues decide to vote in the 

12    affirmative.  I vote aye.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

14    Lanza to explain his vote.

15                 SENATOR LANZA:   Yes, 

16    Madam President.  You know, I agree with 

17    everything Senator Bailey said with respect to 

18    17-year-olds finding themselves in that gap where 

19    they'll be 18 years old at the time of the 

20    general election.  

21                 My concern -- and if I'm incorrect, 

22    then perhaps I'm not concerned.  But there's also 

23    a provision in the legislation as I read it that 

24    says that the 30-day period of time that you must 

25    reside in the state is removed in this 


                                                               5522

 1    legislation.  

 2                 Which means, if I'm correct in my 

 3    reading, that you can come from another state for 

 4    a day, vote, and then go back to where you were.  

 5    Which means, in essence, you're not a New Yorker.  

 6                 And so to the sponsor, 

 7    Madam President, that's my concern.  That's why 

 8    I'll be voting down.  If this was simply about 

 9    allowing 17-year-olds vote in advance of them 

10    becoming -- being 18 in the general, I would be 

11    in favor.  

12                 But for the reason I stated, I'm in 

13    the negative.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

15    Lanza to be recorded in the negative.  

16                 Announce the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 1611, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

20    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Mattera, 

21    Oberacker, O'Mara, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, 

22    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

23                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 19.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               5523

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1612, Senate Print 3256A, by Senator Cooney, an 

 3    act to amend the Parks, Recreation and Historic 

 4    Preservation Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 9    shall have become a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

14    Cooney to explain his vote.

15                 SENATOR COONEY:   Thank you, 

16    Madam President.  

17                 In 2022, tragedy struck for 

18    Casey Eldred when he was hit head-on by another 

19    snowmobiler who was found to be under the 

20    influence.  Casey tragically lost his life, 

21    leaving behind his children and his family.  

22                 Since then, Casey's family, 

23    including his mother, my constituent, 

24    Phyllis Romano-Eldred, have been pushing for 

25    change to honor Casey's life but also to help 


                                                               5524

 1    increase safety for all New Yorkers.  And that's 

 2    where this bill comes into play.  

 3                 By establishing the crime of 

 4    aggravated snowmobiling while intoxicated and 

 5    raising those financial penalties, we are sending 

 6    a clear message that snowmobiling while under the 

 7    influence is unacceptable.  

 8                 With this bill we're aligning our 

 9    snowmobile intoxication with existing levels in 

10    our laws by operating a vehicle while 

11    intoxicated.  Operating a snowmobile should be 

12    treated the same way as if you were driving a 

13    car.  

14                 We have to ensure that a tragedy 

15    like Casey's never happens in our state again, 

16    and we have to ensure that no one has to fear for 

17    their life while enjoying snowmobiling on the 

18    many trails that New York offers.

19                 Madam President, in Casey's honor I 

20    vote aye.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

22    Cooney to be recorded in the affirmative.

23                 Announce the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 


                                                               5525

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1615, Assembly Bill Number 4014, by 

 4    Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend the 

 5    County Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is passed.  

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1626, Senate Print 5168, by Senator Rolison, an 

21    act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               5526

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 2    roll.  

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 7    Calendar 1626, voting in the negative:  

 8    Senator Martinez.

 9                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1630, Senate Print 5516A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

14    act to amend the Railroad Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

19    shall have become a law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               5527

 1    Calendar 1630, voting in the negative:  

 2    Senator Walczyk.

 3                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 5    is passed.  

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1633, Senate Print 6035, by Senator Parker, an 

 8    act to amend the Elder Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.  

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1639, Senate Print 6959, by Senator Hinchey, an 

23    act to amend the Social Services Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5528

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect on the first of April.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1641, Senate Print 7111A, by Senator Harckham, an 

13    act to amend the Election Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 1641, voting in the negative are 

25    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 


                                                               5529

 1    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 2    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, 

 3    Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

 4    and Weik. 

 5                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 21.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1642, Assembly Bill Number 7312, by 

10    Assemblymember Woerner, an act authorizing the 

11    Commissioner of General Services to transfer and 

12    convey certain lands in the Town of Wilton, 

13    County of Saratoga, to the Veterans and Community 

14    Housing Coalition.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

23    Fahy to explain her vote.

24                 SENATOR FAHY:   Thank you, 

25    Madam Speaker.  


                                                               5530

 1                 I'm rising to vote in the 

 2    affirmative on this important legislation and 

 3    commend the sponsor for his work on this in 

 4    support of veterans and community housing, which 

 5    is so critical for our veterans who we owe an 

 6    immense debt of gratitude to.  

 7                 And today I want to note, given the 

 8    significance of passing this bill today, it 

 9    reminds me of one of our probably most 

10    distinguished veterans here in the Capital 

11    Region, and that is Sergeant Henry Johnson.  

12                 Just yesterday we learned that the 

13    fort that had been named in his honor is about to 

14    be rechanged again, back to the original name.  

15                 Let me back up and say 

16    Sergeant Henry Johnson was a Medal of Honor 

17    recipient right from here in Albany.  He was a 

18    World War I veteran, and President Theodore 

19    Roosevelt described him as one of the five 

20    bravest Americans to ever serve in World War I.  

21                 Yet it took decades of work to get 

22    him that Medal of Honor, including by 

23    Senator Schumer.  In 2023, a bipartisan 

24    commission renamed Fort Polk after Henry Johnson, 

25    in honor of his service.  


                                                               5531

 1                 That has just been changed again 

 2    back to Fort Polk, who was a Confederate general.  

 3                 I just wanted to make note of it 

 4    because I do think it's important that we honor 

 5    all of our veterans.  And while this bill is 

 6    helping to serve current veterans, it is 

 7    important that we remember the extraordinary 

 8    history.  And he was not recognized in his 

 9    lifetime after World War I because of the color 

10    of his skin.  He was a Black Medal of Honor 

11    winner.

12                 And with that, again, I support this 

13    important legislation and honor all of our 

14    veterans.  

15                 Thank you, Madam Speaker.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

17    Fahy to be recorded in the affirmative.

18                 Announce the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1645, Senate Print 7541, by Senator Bynoe, an act 

24    to amend the Real Property Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               5532

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

 3    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 4    shall have become a law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1645, voting in the negative:  

12    Senator Oberacker.  

13                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1647, Senate Print 7690, by Senator Gianaris, an 

18    act to amend the Public Health Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

20    last section.  

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

22    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

23    shall have become a law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               5533

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1647, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Chan, Lanza, Walczyk and Weik.

 7                 Ayes, 55.  Nays, 4.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1649, Senate Print 7728, by Senator Skoufis, an 

12    act to amend the Public Health Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               5534

 1    1652, Senate Print 7980, by Senator Gounardes, an 

 2    act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 1652, voting in the negative are 

14    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

15    Chan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, 

16    O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, 

17    Walczyk and Weik.

18                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 17.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1655, Senate Print 8197, by Senator Brisport, an 

23    act to amend the Family Court Act.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5535

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

 2    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 3    shall have become a law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 1655, voting in the negative are 

11    Senators Borrello, Griffo, Oberacker, Rhoads and 

12    Stec.

13                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 5.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1656, Senate Print 8201A, by Senator Martins, an 

18    act to amend Chapter 280 of the Laws of 2016.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is a 

20    home-rule message at the desk.

21                 Read the last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               5536

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1656, voting in the negative:  

 6    Senator Brisport.

 7                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1657, Senate Print 8237, by Senator Parker, an 

12    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 1657, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators Borrello, Lanza, O'Mara, Ortt and 

25    Walczyk.


                                                               5537

 1                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 5.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 3    is passed.  

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1658, Senate Print 8238, by Senator Addabbo, an 

 6    act to amend the Racing, Pari-Mutuel Wagering and 

 7    Breeding Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

11    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

12    shall have become a law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1659, Senate Print 8255, by Senator Serrano, an 

23    act to amend the State Finance Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5538

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1660, Assembly Bill Number 8299, by 

13    Assemblymember Lavine, an act to amend the 

14    Domestic Relations Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

19    shall have become a law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

24    Webb to explain her vote.

25                 SENATOR WEBB:   Thank you, 


                                                               5539

 1    Madam President.  I rise to explain my vote.  

 2                 This legislation will strengthen the 

 3    protections already in place during divorce 

 4    proceedings.  Given the unanimous approval, it 

 5    sounds likes this is resonating with a lot of 

 6    folks.  

 7                 But right now our law includes 

 8    what's called automatic orders, which are rules 

 9    which prevent either spouses from moving money 

10    around or selling property once a divorce case 

11    begins.  These orders help make sure the process 

12    is fair, and they stop one side from hurting the 

13    other financially.

14                 There are two problems in the 

15    current law, and this bill attempts to fix them.  

16                 First, it doesn't require a spouse 

17    to tell the other if something happens such as a 

18    foreclosure, a bankruptcy, or a lawsuit that 

19    could affect the couple's property.  That means 

20    one person could get a legal notice and the other 

21    might not even -- would never know even if their 

22    home is at risk.

23                 This legislation would change that 

24    by requiring one spouse to tell the other within 

25    10 days if a notice is given.


                                                               5540

 1                 Madam President, second, the law 

 2    says these automatic orders stay in place during 

 3    the case, but that wording has caused confusion.  

 4    Some people think the rules end once the trial is 

 5    over or even if the judge hasn't issued a 

 6    decision yet.  That period in between can last 

 7    weeks or even months.

 8                 These are practical and necessary 

 9    updates to a law that already does a lot of good.  

10    They close loopholes, prevent misunderstandings, 

11    and help people going through divorce avoid even 

12    more stress and financial harm.  

13                 I vote aye, and I encourage my 

14    colleagues to do the same.

15                 Thank you, Madam President.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

17    Webb to be recorded in the affirmative.

18                 Announce the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar 1660, voting in the negative are 

21    Senators Gallivan, Griffo, O'Mara, Ortt, Stec, 

22    Tedisco, Walczyk and Weik.  Also Senator 

23    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick.  

24                 Ayes, 50.  Nays, 9.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               5541

 1    is passed.  

 2                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

 3    reading of today's active list.  

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

 5    Madam President.  

 6                 At this time I believe there's a 

 7    report of the Rules Committee at the desk.  Can 

 8    we take that up, please.  

 9                 (Pause.)

10                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

11    it occurs to me that five bills on the 

12    supplemental calendar were laid aside in Rules.  

13                 And so as we go through the 

14    calendar, Calendar Numbers 1820, 1827, 1860, 

15    1861, and 1863 were on the calendar in error.  So 

16    we'll just skip over those when we do the 

17    calendar, please.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

19    Secretary will read.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator 

21    Stewart-Cousins, from the Committee on Rules, 

22    reports the following bills:  

23                 Senate Print 277A, by 

24    Senator Skoufis, an act to amend the Town Law; 

25                 Senate Print 278, by 


                                                               5542

 1    Senator Skoufis, an act to amend the 

 2    Social Services Law;

 3                 Senate Print 441A, by Senator Myrie, 

 4    an act to amend the Election Law; 

 5                 Senate Print 1012A, by 

 6    Senator Brouk, an act to amend the 

 7    Public Service Law; 

 8                 Senate Print 1162A, by 

 9    Senator Krueger, an act to amend the 

10    General Business Law; 

11                 Senate Print 1280B, by 

12    Senator Krueger, an act to amend the 

13    General Business Law; 

14                 Senate Print 1343A, by 

15    Senator Parker, an act to amend the 

16    Environmental Conservation Law;

17                 Senate Print 1455A, by 

18    Senator Kavanagh, an act to amend the 

19    Executive Law; 

20                 Senate Print 2105A, by 

21    Senator Cooney, an act to amend the 

22    Insurance Law; 

23                 Senate Print 2457B, by 

24    Senator Ramos, an act to amend the 

25    Public Authorities Law; 


                                                               5543

 1                 Senate Print 3073A, by 

 2    Senator Gianaris, an act to amend the 

 3    Agriculture and Markets Law;

 4                 Senate Print 3103, by 

 5    Senator Cooney, an act directing the Commissioner 

 6    of Motor Vehicles to conduct a study of official 

 7    inspection stations; 

 8                 Senate Print 3243A, by 

 9    Senator Cooney, an act to amend the 

10    Social Services Law; 

11                 Senate Print 3282A, by Senator S. 

12    Ryan, an act in relation to authorizing the 

13    discontinuance of certain parklands in the 

14    Town of Amherst; 

15                 Senate Print 3488, by 

16    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

17    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

18                 Senate Print 4045C, by 

19    Senator Gounardes, an act to amend the 

20    Vehicle and Traffic Law; 

21                 Senate Print 4552A, by Senator Fahy, 

22    an act to amend the Public Health Law; 

23                 Senate Print 4599, by 

24    Senator Jackson, an act to amend the 

25    Retirement and Social Security Law; 


                                                               5544

 1                 Senate Print 5003, by 

 2    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

 3    Public Authorities Law; 

 4                 Senate Print 5381B, by 

 5    Senator Harckham, an act to amend the 

 6    Public Health Law;

 7                 Senate Print 5525, by 

 8    Senator Harckham, an act to amend the 

 9    General Municipal Law;

10                 Senate Print 5536, by 

11    Senator Mattera, an act authorizing the County of 

12    Suffolk to alienate certain lands used as 

13    parklands; 

14                 Senate Print 5557A, by Senator May, 

15    an act in relation to authorizing the 

16    Jamesville-DeWitt Central School District to 

17    discontinue the use of school district-owned 

18    parklands;

19                 Senate Print 5568B, by Senator Fahy, 

20    an act to amend the Transportation Law; 

21                 Senate Print 5726, by 

22    Senator Skoufis, an act to amend the 

23    Retirement and Social Security Law; 

24                 Senate Print 5759C, by 

25    Senator Harckham, an act to amend the 


                                                               5545

 1    Environmental Conservation Law; 

 2                 Senate Print 5928, by 

 3    Senator Martins, an act granting retroactive 

 4    membership with Tier IV status in the New York 

 5    State and Local Employees' Retirement System to 

 6    Dawn Ward; 

 7                 Senate Print 6573A, by 

 8    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

 9    Agriculture and Markets Law; 

10                 Senate Print 6626A, by 

11    Senator Baskin, an act to amend the 

12    Economic Development Law; 

13                 Senate Print 6627, by 

14    Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, an act to amend 

15    the Vehicle and Traffic Law; 

16                 Senate Print 6690, by 

17    Senator Cooney, an act to authorize the County of 

18    Monroe to offer an optional 20-year retirement 

19    plan to Christopher R. Fay; 

20                 Senate Print 6691, by 

21    Senator Cooney, an act to authorize the County of 

22    Monroe to offer an optional 20-year retirement 

23    plan to Gregory M. Prokop; 

24                 Senate Print 6692, by 

25    Senator Cooney, an act to authorize the County of 


                                                               5546

 1    Monroe to offer an optional 20-year retirement 

 2    plan to Carl J. Zimmerman;

 3                 Senate Print 7054, by 

 4    Senator Cooney, an act to authorize the granting 

 5    of retirement service credit in the optional 

 6    20-year retirement plan to Duane A. Palma; 

 7                 Senate Print 7384, by Senator C. 

 8    Ryan, an act in relation to authorizing the 

 9    Onondaga County Sheriffs Department, in the 

10    County of Onondaga, to offer the optional 20-year 

11    retirement plan to Deputy Sheriffs Brittany E. 

12    Dorn, Noah C. Hunt, Daniel D. Lorenzini, 

13    Gordon J. Lopez, Tre C. Fesinger, Christopher L. 

14    Van Dusen.

15                 Senate Print 7493A, by Senator Ortt, 

16    an act in relation to authorizing the Town of 

17    Niagara to alienate and discontinue the use of 

18    certain parklands; 

19                 Senate Print 7500A, by 

20    Senator Harckham, an act to amend the 

21    Vehicle and Traffic Law; 

22                 Senate Print 7501A, by 

23    Senator Mayer, an act to amend the 

24    General Municipal Law; 

25                 Senate Print 7537, by 


                                                               5547

 1    Senator Hinchey, an act authorizing the 

 2    Town of Hurley to alienate certain parklands for 

 3    use as a highway garage;

 4                 Senate Print 7538, by Senator Weber, 

 5    an act in relation to authorizing the 

 6    Village of Nyack to alienate and discontinue the 

 7    use of certain parklands; 

 8                 Senate Print 7606A, by 

 9    Senator Mattera, an act to amend Chapter 7 of the 

10    Laws of 1955; 

11                 Senate Print 7638A, by 

12    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

13    General Municipal Law; 

14                 Senate Print 7677A, by 

15    Senator Skoufis, an act to amend the Town Law; 

16                 Senate Print 7683, by 

17    Senator Helming, an act to amend the 

18    Alcoholic Beverage Control Law; 

19                 Senate Print 7785, by 

20    Senator Bailey, an act to amend the 

21    Vehicle and Traffic Law; 

22                 Senate Print 7791A, by 

23    Senator Harckham, an act to amend the 

24    Vehicle and Traffic Law; 

25                 Senate Print 7834A, by Senator Webb, 


                                                               5548

 1    an act in relation to authorizing the 

 2    Town of Ithaca to alienate and discontinue the 

 3    use of certain parklands;

 4                 Senate Print 7847, by Senator Webb, 

 5    an act in relation to authorizing 

 6    Kevin R. Noterfonzo to receive certain service 

 7    credit under a 20-year retirement plan; 

 8                 Senate Print 7848, by Senator Webb, 

 9    an act to authorize the County of Tompkins to 

10    offer an optional 20-year retirement plan to 

11    Bryan Jolly; 

12                 Senate Print 7849, by Senator Webb, 

13    an act in relation to authorizing the 

14    County of Tompkins to offer an optional 20-year 

15    retirement plan to Kyle Davenport; 

16                 Senate Print 7854, by 

17    Senator Palumbo, an act in relation to granting 

18    retroactive Tier II membership in the New York 

19    State and Local Police and Fire Retirement System 

20    to Giuseppe T. Rosini; 

21                 Senate Print 7873A, by 

22    Senator Palumbo, an act in relation to 

23    authorizing the Town of Brookhaven, 

24    County of Suffolk, to alienate and discontinue 

25    the use of certain parklands; 


                                                               5549

 1                 Senate Print 7899A, by 

 2    Senator Hinchey, an act to amend the 

 3    Public Authorities Law; 

 4                 Senate Print 7911, by Senator Webb, 

 5    an act in relation to authorizing 

 6    Daniel H. Austic to receive certain service 

 7    credit under a 20-year retirement plan; 

 8                 Senate Print 8009A, by 

 9    Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, an act in relation 

10    to authorizing the Village of Malverne to 

11    alienate and discontinue the use of certain 

12    parklands; 

13                 Senate Print 8041, by Senator Fahy, 

14    an act to amend Chapter 434 of the Laws of 2022; 

15                 Senate Print 8046A, by 

16    Senator Bynoe, an act to amend the 

17    Emergency Tenant Protection Act;

18                 Senate Print 8063A, by 

19    Senator Gounardes, an act to amend the 

20    General City Law; 

21                 Senate Print 8088, by 

22    Senator Griffo, an act to authorize Scott Hoag 

23    to receive certain service credit under 

24    Section 384-d of the Retirement and 

25    Social Security Law; 


                                                               5550

 1                 Senate Print 8164, by Senator Weber, 

 2    an act in relation to authorizing the County of 

 3    Rockland to offer an optional 20-year retirement 

 4    plan to John F. Leonard, Jr.;

 5                 Senate Print 8172B, by 

 6    Senator Cleare, an act to amend the 

 7    Correction Law; 

 8                 Senate Print 8194, by 

 9    Senator Helming, an act in relation to 

10    authorizing Heath A. Wadhams to take the 

11    competitive civil service examination for the 

12    position of police officer; 

13                 Senate Print 8208A, by 

14    Senator Weber, an act in relation to authorizing 

15    the County of Rockland to offer an optional 

16    20-year retirement plan to Matthew Donovan; 

17                 Senate Print 8210A, by 

18    Senator Brouk, an act to amend the Executive Law; 

19                 Senate Print 8219, by Senator Webb, 

20    an act in relation to authorizing 

21    Mackenzie M. Covert to receive certain service 

22    credit under a 20-year retirement plan; 

23                 Senate Print 8390, by 

24    Senator Kavanagh, an act to amend subpart A of 

25    Part BB of Chapter 56 of the Laws of 2021; 


                                                               5551

 1                 Senate Print 8396, by 

 2    Senator Gianaris, an act to amend Chapter 704 of 

 3    the Laws of 1991.  

 4                 All bills reported direct to third 

 5    reading.

 6                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

 7    the report of the Rules Committee.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   All 

 9    those in favor of accepting the report of the 

10    Rules Committee please signify by saying aye.  

11                 (Response of "Aye.")

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Opposed, 

13    nay?  

14                 (Response of "Nay.")

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

16    report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

17                 Senator Gianaris.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I believe we 

19    have some messages from the Assembly.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

21    Secretary will read.  

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Skoufis 

23    moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

24    Children and Families, Assembly Bill Number 612 

25    and substitute it for the identical Senate 


                                                               5552

 1    Bill 278, Third Reading Calendar 1794.

 2                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 

 3    from the Committee on Insurance, Assembly Bill 

 4    Number 3986A and substitute it for the identical 

 5    Senate Bill 2105A, Third Reading Calendar 1801.  

 6                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 

 7    from the Committee on Transportation, 

 8    Assembly Bill Number 468 and substitute it for 

 9    the identical Senate Bill 3103, Third Reading 

10    Calendar 1804.

11                 Senator S. Ryan moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

13    Number 4030A and substitute it for the identical 

14    Senate Bill 3282A, Third Reading Calendar 1806.

15                 Senator Harckham moves to discharge, 

16    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

17    Number 6558A and substitute it for the identical 

18    Senate Bill 5381B, Third Reading Calendar 1812.

19                 Senator Harckham moves to discharge, 

20    from the Committee on Local Government, 

21    Assembly Bill Number 810 and substitute it for 

22    the identical Senate Bill 5525, Third Reading 

23    Calendar 1813.

24                 Senator May moves to discharge, from 

25    the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 


                                                               5553

 1    Number 3949A, and substitute it for the identical 

 2    Senate Bill 5557A, Third Reading Calendar 1815.

 3                 Senator Fahy moves to discharge, 

 4    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 5    Number 3938B and substitute it for the identical 

 6    Senate Bill 5568, Third Reading Calendar 1816.

 7                 Senator Skoufis moves to discharge, 

 8    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 9    Number 6756 and substitute it for the identical 

10    Senate Bill 5726, Third Reading Calendar 1817.

11                 Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick moves 

12    to discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

13    Assembly Bill Number 7351 and substitute it for 

14    the identical Senate Bill 6627, Third Reading 

15    Calendar 1823.

16                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 

17    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

18    Number 6298 and substitute it for the identical 

19    Senate Bill 6690, Third Reading Calendar 1824.

20                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 

21    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

22    Number 6274 and substitute it for the identical 

23    Senate Bill 6691, Third Reading Calendar 1825.

24                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 

25    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 


                                                               5554

 1    Number 6300 and substitute it for the identical 

 2    Senate Bill 6692, Third Reading Calendar 1826.

 3                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 

 4    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 5    Number 6279 and substitute it for the identical 

 6    Senate Bill 7054, Third Reading Calendar 1828.

 7                 Senator Ryan moves to discharge, 

 8    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 9    Number 7934 and substitute it for the identical 

10    Senate Bill 7384, Third Reading Calendar 1829.  

11                 Senator Harckham moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

13    Number 8227A and substitute it for the identical 

14    Senate Bill 7500A, Third Reading Calendar 1831.

15                 Senator Hinchey moves to discharge, 

16    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

17    Number 8146 and substitute it for the identical 

18    Senate Bill 7537, Third Reading Calendar 1833.

19                 Senator Mattera moves to discharge, 

20    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

21    Number 6956A and substitute it for the identical 

22    Senate Bill 7606A, Third Reading Calendar 1835.

23                 Senator Webb moves to discharge, 

24    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

25    Number 8371A and substitute it for the identical 


                                                               5555

 1    Senate Bill 7834A, Third Reading Calendar 1841.

 2                 Senator Fahy moves to discharge, 

 3    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 4    Number 8620 and substitute it for the identical 

 5    Senate Bill 8041, Third Reading Calendar 1850.

 6                 Senator Gounardes moves to 

 7    discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 8    Assembly Bill Number 8676 and substitute it for 

 9    the identical Senate Bill 8063A, Third Reading 

10    Calendar 1852.  

11                 Senator Griffo moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

13    Number 8489 and substitute it for the identical 

14    Senate Bill 8088, Third Reading Calendar 1853.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   So 

16    ordered.  

17                 (Pause.)

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

19    let's take up the supplemental calendar at this 

20    time.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

22    Secretary will read.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1793, Senate Print 277A, by Senator Skoufis, an 

25    act to amend the Town Law.


                                                               5556

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 2    last section.  

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 9    the results.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1793, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

13    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Martinez, 

14    Martins, Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

15    Rhoads, Scarcella-Spanton, Stec, Tedisco, Weber 

16    and Weik.

17                 Ayes, 40.  Nays, 19.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1794, Assembly Bill Number 612, by 

22    Assemblymember Hevesi, an act to amend the 

23    Social Services Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5557

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1794, voting in the negative:  

10    Senator Ortt.  

11                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1795, Senate Print 441A, by Senator Myrie, an act 

16    to amend the Election Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

18    last section.  

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

21    have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 


                                                               5558

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1795, voting in the negative are 

 4    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

 5    Gallivan, Griffo, Martins, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, 

 6    Stec, Walczyk and Weik.  

 7                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 12.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 9    is passed.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1796, Senate Print 1012A, by Senator Brouk, an 

12    act to amend the Public Service Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

16    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

17    shall have become a law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 1796, voting in the negative:  

25    Senator Walczyk.


                                                               5559

 1                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1797, Senate Print 1162A, by Senator Krueger, an 

 6    act to amend the General Business Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.  

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 1797, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

20    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

21    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Rolison, Stec, 

22    Tedisco, Weber and Weik.

23                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 18.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               5560

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1798, Senate Print 1280B, by Senator Krueger, an 

 3    act to amend the General Business Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 7    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

 8    have become a law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

13    Krueger to explain her vote.

14                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you very 

15    much, Madam President.  

16                 I doubt I'm going to convince my 

17    colleagues here who are voting no to vote yes.  

18    But I just want to ask you, after session, when 

19    you have some time, read through the endless bill 

20    memos of support by medical and scientific -- 

21    bless you, whoever's sneezing -- experts.  

22                 This is not a banning-gas-stoves 

23    bill.  It does not ban anything from being sold.  

24    It is an educational document, like we use for 

25    other appliances and cigarettes, warning you of 


                                                               5561

 1    the risks of indoor gas stoves without the 

 2    correct ventilation.  And these are real health 

 3    hazards, particularly for older people, for 

 4    children, for people with respiratory illnesses.  

 5    And all this bill does is let them have some 

 6    information so that they can make their own 

 7    decision.  

 8                 I vote yes.  Thank you, 

 9    Madam President.  

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

11    Krueger to be recorded in the affirmative.

12                 Announce the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14    Calendar 1798, voting in the negative are 

15    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

16    Chan, Cooney, Gallivan, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

17    Mattera, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Rolison, S. Ryan, 

18    Scarcella-Spanton, Skoufis, Stec, Tedisco, 

19    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.  And Senator Griffo.

20                 Ayes, 36.  Nays, 23.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1799, Senate Print 1343A, by Senator Parker, an 

25    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.


                                                               5562

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1799, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Borrello, Brisport, Gallivan, Griffo, 

13    Helming, Krueger, Lanza, Mattera, May, Oberacker, 

14    O'Mara, Ortt, Salazar, Stec, Walczyk, Webb and 

15    Weik.

16                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 17.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1800, Senate Print 1455A, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

21    act to amend the Executive Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               5563

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 (Pause.)

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 7    Gianaris.

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I believe the 

 9    bill before us now was amended just Monday, so 

10    it's high and should be laid aside until 

11    tomorrow.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Calendar 

13    1800 is high and will be laid aside for the day.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1801, Assembly Bill Number 3986A, by 

16    Assemblymember Bores, an act to amend the 

17    Insurance Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5564

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 2    Cooney to explain his vote.

 3                 SENATOR COONEY:   Thank you, 

 4    Madam President.  

 5                 This bill would give physicians, 

 6    dentists and other providers a meaningful choice 

 7    to make whether to accept virtual credit card 

 8    payments or to reject it and demand payments be 

 9    made through traditional no-cost electronic funds 

10    transfer or payment papers.  

11                 It also guarantees that the 

12    physician, the dentist or the provider has the 

13    right to change their mind at a later date in 

14    writing and require a health plan to honor it by 

15    requiring the provider to elect to agree to a 

16    payment by virtual credit card.  They can't 

17    simply bury it in a dense provider contract.

18                 I want to thank the Majority Leader 

19    for bringing this bill to the floor.  

20                 And with that, Madam President, I 

21    vote aye.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

23    Cooney to be recorded in the affirmative.

24                 Announce the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.


                                                               5565

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.  

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1802, Senate Print 2457B, by Senator Ramos, an 

 5    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 1802, voting in the negative are 

17    Senators Martins, Oberacker and Walczyk.

18                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 3.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1803, Senate Print 3073A, by Senator Gianaris, an 

23    act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5566

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect on the 120th day after it 

 3    shall have become a law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1804, Assembly Bill Number 468, by 

14    Assemblymember Magnarelli, an act directing the 

15    Commissioner of Motor Vehicles to conduct a study 

16    of official inspection stations.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

21    shall have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 


                                                               5567

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1805, Senate Print 3243A, by Senator Cooney, an 

 7    act to amend the Social Services Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

16    Cooney to explain his vote.

17                 SENATOR COONEY:   Thank you, 

18    Madam President.  

19                 When we talk about equity, one of 

20    the areas that is too often neglected is access 

21    to dental care in New York.  According to the 

22    American Dental Association, about one-third of 

23    Americans don't visit the dentist due to barriers 

24    to care.  These barriers are especially prevalent 

25    in low-income communities, to worse overall 


                                                               5568

 1    health outcomes for those who need it most.  

 2                 In my district and perhaps in some 

 3    of my colleagues' districts, it can take two to 

 4    three years for a patient to have access to their 

 5    dentist. 

 6                 Children who receive dental care 

 7    perform better in school, as they don't need to 

 8    miss vital school hours for emergency health 

 9    procedures.  The same is true for those 

10    New Yorkers on Medicaid.  Very few dental 

11    providers accept Medicaid anymore.  I talked to 

12    all of my colleagues about this issue in their 

13    districts.  

14                 One of the exceptions in my district 

15    is the University of Rochester, who has made 

16    equitable access to care one of their top 

17    priorities.  This bill is about supporting their 

18    work and embracing innovation and technology and 

19    continuing to expand dental coverage to those who 

20    need it most.  

21                 This bill creates a five-year 

22    demonstration program in Monroe County, where 

23    diagnostic services associated with the use of 

24    the Smart Teeth app can help identify tooth decay 

25    and would be reimbursed.  If successful, this 


                                                               5569

 1    program could be rolled out statewide, helping 

 2    address this issue in all of our districts.  

 3                 I want to thank the Majority Leader 

 4    for moving this bill.  

 5                 And with that, Madam President, I 

 6    vote aye.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 8    Cooney to be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                 Announce the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1806, Assembly Bill Number 4030A, by 

15    Assemblymember McMahon, an act in relation to 

16    authorizing the discontinuance of certain 

17    parklands in the Town of Amherst.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

19    a home-rule message at the desk.

20                 Read the last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5570

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.  

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1806, voting in the negative:  

 5    Senator Fahy.  

 6                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1807, Senate Print 3488, by Senator Jackson, an 

11    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

12    Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

14    a home-rule message at the desk.

15                 Read the last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.  

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               5571

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1809, Senate Print 4552A, by Senator Fahy, an act 

 3    to amend the Public Health Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Calendar 

 5    1808 is high and will be laid aside for the day.

 6                 (Pause.)

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    1809, Senate Print 4552A, by Senator Fahy, an act 

 9    to amend the Public Health Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1810, Senate Print 4599, by Senator Jackson, an 

24    act to amend the Retirement and Social Security 

25    Law.


                                                               5572

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

 2    a home-rule message at the desk.

 3                 Read the last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1811, Senate Print 5003, by Senator Hinchey, an 

16    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               5573

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1812, Assembly Bill Number 6558A, by 

 6    Assemblymember Lunsford, an act to amend the 

 7    Public Health Law.

 8                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Lay it 

10    aside.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1813, Assembly Bill Number 810, by 

13    Assemblymember Levenberg, an act to amend the 

14    General Municipal Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               5574

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1814, Senate Print 5536, by Senator Mattera, an 

 4    act authorizing the County of Suffolk to alienate 

 5    certain lands used as parkland.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

 7    a home-rule message at the desk.

 8                 Read the last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 7.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

15    the results.  

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 1814, voting in the negative:  

18    Senator Fahy.

19                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1815, Assembly Bill Number 3949A, by 

24    Assemblymember Hunter, an act in relation to 

25    authorizing the Jamesville-DeWitt Central School 


                                                               5575

 1    District to discontinue the use of 

 2    school district-owned parklands.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

 4    a home-rule message at the desk.

 5                 Read the last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1816, Assembly Bill Number 3938B, by 

18    Assemblymember Smullen, an act to amend the 

19    Transportation Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

23    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

24    have become a law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 


                                                               5576

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 4    Fahy to explain her vote.

 5                 SENATOR FAHY:   Thank you.  Thank 

 6    you, Madam Speaker.  

 7                 Today I rise to vote aye on this 

 8    bill.  

 9                 This bill I sponsored in memory of 

10    Assemblymember Robert Smullen's son, 

11    Alexander John -- or "AJ" -- Smullen, who 

12    devastatingly passed away just over a year ago 

13    after being hit by a car on February 22, 2024, 

14    and fought valiantly in the pediatric ICU before 

15    succumbing to this tragedy.

16                 I am joined here today by 

17    Assemblymember Robert Smullen, who just passed 

18    the bill earlier this evening in the Assembly.  

19                 This legislation is a program to 

20    allow families or friends an opportunity to 

21    purchase a roadside sign to memorialize a victim 

22    of a fatal vehicle collision -- and to help, we 

23    hope, bring much needed closure for their grief.

24                 These signs would serve to raise 

25    awareness, act as a reminder of the serious and 


                                                               5577

 1    often deadly consequences for impaired or 

 2    reckless driving, which sadly took AJ Smullen, 

 3    age 14 -- age 14 -- took his life last year.

 4                 We are going in the wrong direction 

 5    here.  Traffic fatalities continue to rise in 

 6    New York State year after year.  

 7                 In June 2024, Comptroller DiNapoli 

 8    issued a report saying motor vehicle fatalities 

 9    have risen by 26 percent just since 2019.  

10    Pedestrian deaths in those traffic fatalities 

11    equate to one-fourth -- one-fourth of them are of 

12    pedestrians, including AJ Smullen.  One in three 

13    involves -- one in three of all these fatalities 

14    involves speeding.  We heard about that earlier 

15    today from Senator Cooney.  

16                 Too many of us have seen the 

17    heartbreak of losing a family member to traffic 

18    violence, and we need to remind all to slow down 

19    to drive safe, and that lives do depend on it.  

20    We are in very much a similar club with having 

21    lost our only sons.  And I truly hope that this 

22    measure -- and I deeply thank the leader for her 

23    support for this measure.  And I thank 

24    Assemblymember Smullen for proposing this, and I 

25    truly hope that this brings some measure of 


                                                               5578

 1    solace to him and his wonderful family.  

 2                 Thank you, Madam Speaker.  And with 

 3    that, I vote in the affirmative.  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 5    Fahy to be recorded in the affirmative.

 6                 Senator Borrello to explain his 

 7    vote.

 8                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

 9    Madam President.  

10                 I'd also first like to extend my 

11    appreciation to the sponsor for this, and 

12    certainly to my friend Assemblyman Smullen for 

13    what he's done to turn his personal tragedy into 

14    something that may hopefully help others.

15                 You know, unfortunately, it's hard 

16    to get these signs, these dedication signs done 

17    officially.  I have one that's been in for a 

18    friend of mine's granddaughter who passed away, 

19    Emma Wilcox.  Nine years old.  It was 9 a.m. on a 

20    weekday morning, and guy driving high slammed in 

21    the back of their car, and she died.  Her mother 

22    was driving; she was in the back seat, properly 

23    buckled in.  And she died because of this 

24    irresponsible driver.  

25                 We've been trying to get that road 


                                                               5579

 1    dedicated for two years to Emma's memory, but we 

 2    can't.  I hope that that bill moves.  But this 

 3    gives an opportunity for the family to do this on 

 4    their own, to spend their own money to put that 

 5    sign up to remind people that there are 

 6    consequences to your actions, your carelessness.  

 7    So let's let them do that.  

 8                 Now, I guarantee you that there will 

 9    be bureaucrats in the administration that will 

10    oppose this.  We don't want too many signs.  

11                 There's going to be all these signs.  

12    If there's too many signs, then we have a bigger 

13    problem than we realize.  Every single family 

14    should have this opportunity so that they too can 

15    remember their lost loved one, but also remind 

16    people that they need to be responsible and act 

17    responsibly and be good citizens.  

18                 So I call on the Governor to sign 

19    this, not to listen to the bureaucrats that might 

20    be opposed to it.  And I'm very, very proud to 

21    vote aye.  Thank you.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

23    Borrello to be recorded in the affirmative.

24                 Announce the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.


                                                               5580

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 (Standing ovation.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Calendar 

 5    Number 1817, Assembly Bill Number 6756, by 

 6    Assemblymember Kay, an act to amend the 

 7    Retirement and Social Security Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

 9    a home-rule message at the desk.

10                 Read the last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar 1817, voting in the negative:  

20    Senator Brisport.

21                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1819, Senate Print 5928 --


                                                               5581

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Calendar 

 2    1818 is high and will be laid aside for the day.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1819, Senate Print 5928, by Senator Martins, an 

 5    act granting retroactive membership with Tier IV 

 6    status in the New York State and Local Employees' 

 7    Retirement System to Dawn Ward.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

 9    a home-rule message at the desk.

10                 Read the last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

12    act shall take effect immediately.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.  

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1821, Senate Print 6573A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

23    act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.  


                                                               5582

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 3    shall have because a law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Excuse me.  

13                 In relation to Calendar 1821, voting 

14    in the negative:  Senator Martins.

15                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1. 

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1822, Senate Print 6626A, by Senator Baskin, an 

20    act to amend the Economic Development Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

25    shall have become a law.


                                                               5583

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 5    Baskin to explain her vote.

 6                 SENATOR BASKIN:   Thank you, 

 7    Madam President.  

 8                 I rise today in full support of this 

 9    bill.  Blight and property depreciation are the 

10    last thing that any of us need in our districts.  

11    Many areas are plagued by abandoned businesses 

12    that become eyesores.  They negatively impact 

13    entrepreneurs and our constituents.  

14                 Vacant storefronts can create 

15    economic decline by reducing property values, 

16    making it difficult to attract new businesses, 

17    and causing less foot traffic.  

18                 By establishing a centralized online 

19    registry for vacant commercial storefronts, small 

20    business owners can have a tool to allow them the 

21    access to storefronts that are abandoned and 

22    dilapidated.  They'll have the information at 

23    hand to be able to pick up the phone, raise a 

24    concern about a property or perhaps pursue it.  

25                 This registry is critical in 


                                                               5584

 1    developing a plan to get retail districts back to 

 2    thriving and spaces that they once were.  By 

 3    streamlining this process, it's beneficial not 

 4    just for small businesses, but for property 

 5    owners and consumers as well.  It will also help 

 6    revitalize New York's many commercial corridors, 

 7    longstanding vacancies, and help mitigate the 

 8    all-too-common blight.  

 9                 I am proud to vote in the 

10    affirmative.  Thank you, Madam President.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

12    Baskin to be recorded in the affirmative.

13                 Announce the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1823, Assembly Bill Number 7351, by 

19    Assemblymember Solages, an act to amend the 

20    Vehicle and Traffic Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

22    a home-rule message at the desk.

23                 Read the last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.  


                                                               5585

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1824, Assembly Bill Number 6298, by 

11    Assemblymember Bronson, an act to authorize the 

12    County of Monroe to offer an optional 20-year 

13    retirement plan to Christopher R. Fay.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

15    a home-rule message at the desk.

16                 Read the last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               5586

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1825, Assembly Bill Number 6274, by 

 4    Assemblymember Bronson, an act to authorize the 

 5    County of Monroe to offer an optional 20-year 

 6    retirement plan to Gregory M. Prokop.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

 8    a home-rule message at the desk.

 9                 Read the last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1826, Assembly Bill Number 6300, by 

22    Assemblymember Bronson, an act to authorize the 

23    County of Monroe to offer an optional 20-year 

24    retirement plan to Carl J. Zimmerman.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 


                                                               5587

 1    a home-rule message at the desk.

 2                 Read the last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1828, Assembly Bill Number 6279, by 

15    Assemblymember Bronson, an act to authorize the 

16    granting of retirement service credit in the 

17    optional 20-year retirement plan to Duane A. 

18    Palma.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

20    a home-rule message at the desk.

21                 Read the last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.  

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               5588

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    1829, Assembly Bill Number 7934, by 

 9    Assemblymember Magnarelli, an act in relation to 

10    authorizing the Onondaga County Sheriff's 

11    Department to offer the optional 20-year 

12    retirement plan to Deputy Sheriffs Brittany E. 

13    Dorn, Noah C. Hunt, Daniel D. Lorenzini, 

14    Gordon J. Lopez, Tre C. Fesinger, and 

15    Christopher L. Van Dusen.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

17    a home-rule message at the desk.

18                 Read the last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               5589

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1830, Senate Print 7493A, by Senator Ortt, an act 

 6    in relation to authorizing the Town of Niagara to 

 7    alienate and discontinue the use of certain 

 8    parklands.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

10    a home-rule message at the desk.

11                 Read the last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1831, Assembly Bill Number 8227A, by 

24    Assemblymember Levenberg, an act to amend the 

25    Vehicle and Traffic Law.


                                                               5590

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

 2    a home-rule message at the desk.

 3                 Read the last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 5    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 6    shall have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 Calendar 1832 is high and will be 

16    laid aside for the day.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1833, Assembly Bill Number 8146, by 

19    Assemblymember Shrestha, an act authorizing the 

20    Town of Hurley to alienate certain lands used as 

21    parklands.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

23    a home-rule message at the desk.

24                 Read the last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               5591

 1    act shall take effect immediately.  

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 1833, voting in the negative:  

 9    Senator Fahy.

10                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1834, Senate Print 7538, by Senator Weber, an act 

15    in relation to authorizing the Village of Nyack 

16    to alienate and discontinue the use of certain 

17    parklands.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

19    a home-rule message at the desk.

20                 Read the last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5592

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1834, voting in the negative:  

 5    Senator Fahy.

 6                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1835, Assembly Bill Number 6956A, by 

11    Assemblymember Fitzpatrick, an act to amend 

12    Chapter 7 of the Laws of 1955.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               5593

 1    1836, Senate Print 7638A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

 2    act to amend the General Municipal Law.

 3                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Lay it 

 5    aside.  

 6                 Calendar 1837 is high and will be 

 7    laid aside for the day.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1838, Senate Print 7683, by Senator Helming, an 

10    act to amend the Alcoholic Beverage Control Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1839, Senate Print 7785, by Senator Bailey, an 

25    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.


                                                               5594

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 5    shall have become a law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

10    Bailey to explain his vote.

11                 SENATOR BAILEY:   Thank you, 

12    Madam President.  

13                 Co-op City is unlike any place in 

14    the world -- 50,000 residents, the largest 

15    cooperative housing development in the country, 

16    largest naturally occurring retirement community.  

17                 So there are certain idiosyncrasies 

18    about Co-op City that we have to realize.  It is 

19    a place with a lot of different loops.  With the 

20    best of intentions, we created a program called 

21    ABLE to have bus cameras.  But unfortunately, in 

22    Co-op City there is a lack of on-street parking 

23    and there are a number of seniors and a number of 

24    schoolchildren.  So people are waiting outside of 

25    buildings looking to either drop people off or 


                                                               5595

 1    pick people up.  They have been ticketed.  

 2                 Also, if you are a parent, a public 

 3    school parent like me, who happens to put their 

 4    children in a school in Co-op City, like me, you 

 5    sometimes park in the area across the street from 

 6    the school.  And you are not immune from 

 7    receiving these tickets, notices of violation.  

 8                 And it shouldn't cost parents 

 9    multiple violations to simply drop their children 

10    off at school.  This has been one of the 

11    number-one constituent complaints in Co-op City.  

12                 And I am grateful to the leader for 

13    us to be able to get this bill across the finish 

14    line.  I'm excited about passing it.  And I hope 

15    they are able to do it in the Assembly with the 

16    help of my colleague in Co-op City, 

17    Assemblyman Michael Benedetto.  

18                 I vote aye, Madam President, and 

19    urge everybody to do the same.  Thank you.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

21    Bailey to be recorded in the affirmative.  

22                 Announce the results.  

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               5596

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1840, Senate Print 7791A, by Senator Harckham, an 

 3    act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 5    last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 7    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 

 8    shall have become a law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1840, voting in the negative are 

16    Senators Martinez and Palumbo.

17                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1841, Assembly Bill Number 8371A, by 

22    Assemblymember Kelles, an act in relation to 

23    authorizing the Town of Ithaca to alienate and 

24    discontinue the use of certain parklands.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 


                                                               5597

 1    a home-rule message at the desk.

 2                 Read the last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1842, Senate Print 7847, by Senator Webb, an act 

15    in relation to authorizing Kevin R. Noterfonzo to 

16    receive certain service credit under a 20-year 

17    retirement plan.  

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

19    a home-rule message at the desk.

20                 Read the last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5598

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1843, Senate Print 7848, by Senator Webb, an act 

 8    to authorize the County of Tompkins to offer an 

 9    optional 20-year retirement plan to Bryan Jolly.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

11    a home-rule message at the desk.

12                 Read the last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    1844, Senate Print 7849, by Senator Webb, an act 

25    in relation to authorizing the County of Tompkins 


                                                               5599

 1    to offer an optional 20-year retirement plan to 

 2    Kyle Davenport.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

 4    a home-rule message at the desk.

 5                 Read the last section.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 7    act shall take effect immediately.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1845, Senate Print 7854, by Senator Palumbo, an 

18    act in relation to granting retroactive Tier II 

19    membership in the New York State and Local Police 

20    and Fire Retirement System to Giuseppe T. Rosini.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

22    a home-rule message at the desk.

23                 Read the last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.


                                                               5600

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1846, Senate Print 7873A, by Senator Palumbo, an 

11    act in relation to authorizing the Town of 

12    Brookhaven, County of Suffolk, to alienate and 

13    discontinue the use of certain parklands.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

15    a home-rule message at the desk.

16                 Read the last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               5601

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1847, Senate Print 7899A, by Senator Hinchey, an 

 4    act to amend the Public Authorities Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

13    the results.  

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1847, voting in the negative are 

16    Senators Chan, Oberacker and Weik.

17                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 3.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1848, Senate Print 7911, by Senator Webb, an act 

22    in relation to authorizing Daniel H. Austic to 

23    receive certain service credit under a 20-year 

24    retirement plan.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 


                                                               5602

 1    a home-rule message at the desk.

 2                 Read the last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1849, Senate Print 8009A, by Senator 

15    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, an act in relation to 

16    authorizing the Village of Malverne to alienate 

17    and discontinue the use of certain parklands.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

19    a home-rule message at the desk.

20                 Read the last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5603

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1850, Assembly Bill Number 8620, by 

 8    Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend 

 9    Chapter 434 of the Laws of 2022.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

18    the results.  

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar Number 1850, voting in the negative are 

21    Senators Brisport and Weik.  

22                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2. 

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               5604

 1    1851, Senate Print 8046A, by Senator Bynoe, an 

 2    act to amend the Emergency Tenant Protection Act.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 1851, voting in the negative are 

14    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

15    Griffo, Helming, Lanza, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, 

16    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

17                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 14.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1852, Assembly Bill Number 8676, by 

22    Assemblymember Lee, an act to amend the 

23    General City Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5605

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 14.  This 

 2    act shall take effect July 12, 2025.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1852, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Borrello, Brisport, 

11    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

12    Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, O'Mara, Ortt, 

13    Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and Weik.

14                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 18.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18    1853, Assembly Bill Number 8489, by 

19    Assemblymember Buttenschon, an act to authorize 

20    Scott Hoag to receive certain service credit 

21    under Section 384-d of the Retirement and 

22    Social Security Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

24    a home-rule message at the desk.

25                 Read the last section.  


                                                               5606

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1854, Senate Print 8164, by Senator Weber, an act 

13    in relation to authorizing the County of Rockland 

14    to offer an optional retirement plan to John F. 

15    Leonard, Jr. 

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

17    a home-rule message at the desk.

18                 Read the last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               5607

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1855, Senate Print 8172B, by Senator Cleare, an 

 6    act to amend the Correction Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

11    shall have become a law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1856, Senate Print 8194, by Senator Helming, an 

22    act in relation to authorizing Heath A. Wadhams 

23    to take the competitive civil service examination 

24    for the position of police officer.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 


                                                               5608

 1    a home-rule message at the desk.

 2                 Read the last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 9    the results.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1856, voting in the negative:  

12    Senator Brisport.

13                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    1857, Senate Print 8208A, by Senator Weber, an 

18    act in relation to authorizing the County of 

19    Rockland to offer an optional 20-year retirement 

20    plan to Matthew Donovan.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

22    a home-rule message at the desk.

23                 Read the last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25    act shall take effect immediately.  


                                                               5609

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 2    roll.

 3                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 5    the results.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 8    is passed.  

 9                 Calendar 1858 is high and will be 

10    laid aside for the day.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1859, Senate Print 8219, by Senator Webb, an act 

13    in relation to authorizing Mackenzie M. Covert to 

14    receive certain service credit under a 20-year 

15    retirement plan.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There's 

17    a home-rule message at the desk.

18                 Read the last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               5610

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1864, Senate Print 8390, by Senator Kavanagh, an 

 6    act to amend subpart A of Part BB of Chapter 56 

 7    of the Laws of 2021.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 1864, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

20    Helming, Lanza, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, 

21    Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

22                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 16.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 Calendar 1865 is high and will be 


                                                               5611

 1    laid aside for the day.

 2                 Senator Serrano, that completes the 

 3    reading of the supplemental calendar.

 4                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Can we please 

 5    return to motions.  

 6                 I wish to call up Print Numbers 

 7    1012A and 1162A, which are now at the desk.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    Secretary will read.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1796, Senate Print 1012A, by Senator Brouk, an 

12    act to amend the Public Service Law.

13                 Calendar Number 1797, Senate Print 

14    1162A, by Senator Krueger, an act to amend the 

15    General Business Law.

16                 SENATOR SERRANO:   I now move to 

17    move to reconsider the vote by which these bills 

18    were passed.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 57.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

24    bills are restored to their place on the Third 

25    Reading Calendar.  


                                                               5612

 1                 Senator Serrano.

 2                 SENATOR SERRANO:   I now offer the 

 3    following amendments.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 5    amendments are received.  

 6                 Senator Serrano.

 7                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Can we now go to 

 8    the controversial calendar.  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

10    Secretary will ring the bell.

11                 The Secretary will read.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    609, Senate Print 5701, by Senator Skoufis, an 

14    act to amend the Correction Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

16    Rhoads, why do you rise?

17                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Madam President, 

18    because no session would be complete without my 

19    having a chance to ask Senator Skoufis a few 

20    questions.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

22    Skoufis, would you yield for a question?  

23                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Happily.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

25    Skoufis yields.


                                                               5613

 1                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you, 

 2    Senator Skoufis.  

 3                 Through you, Madam President.  My 

 4    understanding is this bill would require DOCCS to 

 5    provide a discharge plan and reentry services to 

 6    those who are wrongfully convicted.  Is that 

 7    correct?  

 8                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

 9    Madam President.  Yes, that is correct.

10                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Did you consult -- 

11    would the sponsor continue to yield.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

13    sponsor yield?

14                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

16    sponsor yields.  

17                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Was there any 

18    communication with DOCCS about the efficacy of 

19    them having to perform these responsibilities?  

20                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

21    Madam President, no.

22                 SENATOR RHOADS:   And will the 

23    sponsor continue to yield?

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

25    sponsor yield?


                                                               5614

 1                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 3    sponsor yields.  

 4                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Now, my 

 5    understanding -- thank you, Madam President, 

 6    through you.  

 7                 My understanding is that the 

 8    discharge plan would mean a plan describing the 

 9    manner in which the wrongfully convicted 

10    individual will be able to receive reentry 

11    services.  And that includes appropriate 

12    programming and support planning, as well as 

13    follow-up support offered to the individual after 

14    their release.  Is that correct?  

15                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

16    Madam President.  Yes, that's correct.

17                 Currently, as I understand it, DOCCS 

18    must provide information for many of these 

19    services.  This legislation likes to require that 

20    the wrongfully convicted individual actually be 

21    connected with these services, not just be 

22    provided information about the services.

23                 SENATOR RHOADS:   And thank you, 

24    Senator Skoufis.  

25                 Will the sponsor continue to yield?


                                                               5615

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 2    sponsor yield?

 3                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 5    sponsor yields.

 6                 SENATOR RHOADS:   It's my 

 7    understanding as well that as part of these 

 8    services DOCCS must work with the wrongfully 

 9    convicted individual to develop a plan which 

10    would be designed to address their unique needs, 

11    including but not limited to the individual's 

12    geographical location upon release from custody, 

13    housing needs, educational needs, employment 

14    needs, medical needs, and social services needs.  

15    Is that correct?

16                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

17    Madam President.  Yes, that's correct.

18                 And they're unique because they were 

19    wrongfully convicted.  And these are unique 

20    situations.

21                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you.  

22                 Will the sponsor continue to yield.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Will the 

24    sponsor yield?

25                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.


                                                               5616

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 2    sponsor yields.

 3                 SENATOR RHOADS:   As part of these 

 4    services as well, DOCCS is also supposed to 

 5    provide case management and connections to 

 6    employment services, educational services, mental 

 7    health services, medical care, housing services, 

 8    and other social services that may be available 

 9    to the wrongfully convicted individual.  Is that 

10    correct?

11                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

12    Madam President.  That is correct.  

13                 And I think it may be helpful at 

14    this point -- I'm happy to continue answering 

15    these questions, but sometimes, you know, some 

16    context and some color is helpful.  And so I do 

17    want to share with my colleague what prompted the 

18    introduction of this bill and where this bill 

19    came from.  

20                 A couple of years ago I spent a 

21    number of hours at a Mets game, actually, with an 

22    individual named Sheldon Thomas, who I had not 

23    met prior.  And one of the reasons why I had not 

24    met him prior is because he'd only been out of 

25    prison for a couple of months at that point after 


                                                               5617

 1    serving for 17 years for a crime he did not 

 2    commit.  

 3                 He was charged and wrongfully 

 4    convicted of murder when he was 17 years old, 

 5    charged for murdering a 14-year-old.  And the 

 6    detectives on that case, they intentionally 

 7    misled a witness to wrongfully identify him as 

 8    the perpetrator in this crime.  

 9                 And as a 17-year-old, he proceeded 

10    to spend the subsequent 18 years wrongfully 

11    imprisoned, which I think you and everyone would 

12    agree  is unimaginable -- sitting in a jail cell 

13    for 18 years for a crime that you did not commit, 

14    never mind allegedly killing someone that you did 

15    not kill.

16                 And so as you can imagine, the world 

17    was a very different place when he left prison 

18    18 years later.  And so that's why we're doing 

19    this bill.  And it's modeled after a similar bill 

20    in this space that Senator Bailey has had for a 

21    number of years.  

22                 And it's an attempt -- in addition 

23    to the recompense that is obviously associated in 

24    situations like this, it's an attempt to try, to 

25    the extent practicable, to have DOCCS connect 


                                                               5618

 1    this individual with the services and quite 

 2    frankly the realities of this world that exists, 

 3    in some cases that they have no idea exists, 

 4    given that they've been separated from the 

 5    outside world for such a long period of time in 

 6    cases like this.  

 7                 So I hope that's a little bit 

 8    helpful context.  And I'm happy to continue 

 9    answering any questions.

10                 SENATOR RHOADS:   I certainly 

11    appreciate the context and certainly understand 

12    the circumstance.  

13                 Madam President, if the sponsor will 

14    continue to yield to just a few additional 

15    questions.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

17    continue to yield?

18                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

19                 SENATOR RHOADS:   And welcome to our 

20    new Madam President.  

21                 Senator Skoufis -- through you, 

22    Madam President -- do you have any idea how long 

23    it would take DOCCS to craft this tailored 

24    proposal and access to services for the 

25    wrongfully convicted individual?


                                                               5619

 1                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   (Conferring.)  

 2    Thank you for affording me a moment to speak with 

 3    staff.  

 4                 So as you probably know, there's no 

 5    timeline prescribed in the bill.  As I understand 

 6    it, it's typically around 60 days currently that 

 7    DOCCS has to put together and offer the 

 8    information for the services that are currently 

 9    required.  And so the expectation would be that 

10    somewhere in that realm of a couple of months, 

11    would be my expectation.  

12                 And, you know, it's -- as I 

13    understand it, it's not as if a DA or a 

14    prosecutorial unit just overnight reviews a case 

15    and determines that an individual was wrongfully 

16    convicted.  And I don't see any reason why, when 

17    it's brought to DOCCS' attention that a case is 

18    being reviewed and potentially an individual is 

19    innocent that was wrongfully convicted, that they 

20    can't start working on a plan like this in the 

21    event innocence is determined.

22                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you for the 

23    answers to those questions, Senator.  I 

24    appreciate it.

25                 Briefly on the bill, if you will. 


                                                               5620

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   On the 

 2    bill.

 3                 SENATOR RHOADS:   My concern -- and 

 4    Senator Skoufis attempted to address part of the 

 5    concern.  The bill is very clear that all of 

 6    these connections to services, the tailored plan 

 7    for the individual who is wrongfully convicted, 

 8    has to take place prior to their release.  

 9                 My concern and the questions that I 

10    asked with respect to whether there was any 

11    communication with DOCCS to try and figure out 

12    how long it would take them to craft this plan is 

13    that oftentimes, even though there may be a 

14    review by the district attorney in an individual 

15    case, it is not until there is an actual judgment 

16    from a court releasing that individual, making a 

17    determination that there's been a wrongful 

18    conviction, that this process might start.  

19                 The fact that this process may take 

20    60 days to complete that plan creates a problem 

21    in the sense that as soon as there's a judgment 

22    of a wrongful conviction, DOCCS's ability to hold 

23    that individual ceases.  And so the conflict that 

24    this bill creates is the fact that if it takes up 

25    to 60 days to complete that tailored plan, DOCCS 


                                                               5621

 1    can't hold that individual for 60 days.  That 

 2    plan can't be crafted prior to their release.  

 3    It's going to have to be put together after their 

 4    release.

 5                 And I think that's a -- the fatal 

 6    flaw in the bill, even though it's 

 7    well-intentioned.  The strength of our criminal 

 8    justice system relies upon our ability to convict 

 9    the guilty and exonerate the innocent, and 

10    sometimes we get that wrong on both sides.  And I 

11    understand the need, quite frankly, to help 

12    someone in that situation, to the best of our 

13    ability to try and rebuild their life to the 

14    extent that that's possible.  

15                 I just think that there is a fatal 

16    flaw in the bill in that if we're requiring this 

17    to take place prior to their release, we're 

18    creating a situation where DOCCS will have a 

19    conflict between having to technically hold 

20    someone, even though they legally no longer have 

21    the ability to do so, until there's that plan in 

22    place.  

23                 And so if in fact this does pass 

24    today, and unfortunately because of that 

25    conflict, I plan on voting no.  If this does pass 


                                                               5622

 1    today and is signed by the Governor, I hope this 

 2    is something that will be revisited so that we 

 3    can correct that error in the bill.

 4                 Thank you, Madam President.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

 6    Senator Rhoads.

 7                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

 8    to be heard?

 9                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

10    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

11                 Read the last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

13    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

14    shall have become a law.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 609, voting in the negative are 

22    Senators Borrello and Rhoads.

23                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

25    is passed.


                                                               5623

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    1517, Assembly Bill Number 1365A, by 

 3    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend the 

 4    Public Health Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 6    Borrello, why do you rise?

 7                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

 8    Madam President.  Would the sponsor yield for a 

 9    question.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

11    Skoufis, do you agree to a question?  

12                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Absolutely, yes.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

14    Senator yields.  

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Through you, 

16    Mr. President.  

17                 I understand -- obviously this is a 

18    tragic situation like the pandemic, which I think 

19    we are all -- obviously still fresh in our minds 

20    about the tragedy that occurred in our nursing 

21    homes.  And of course, I'm sure like many others, 

22    I am still unhappy -- in fact, outraged -- that 

23    there's still been no accountability for what 

24    happened here and the deadly order that our 

25    previous governor had administered.


                                                               5624

 1                 With that said, in the event of 

 2    another mass casualty event, you know, which I 

 3    think is how it will be described, would a 

 4    disaster emergency have to be declared before any 

 5    action would have to take place by these nursing 

 6    homes?  

 7                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

 8    Madam President.  The answer is yes.  

 9                 And in addition to a declaration by 

10    the Governor that there's an emergency, there 

11    must be an underlying disaster that -- and I'm 

12    just reading from the bill here -- may result in 

13    excess mortality that could overwhelm the 

14    capacity of a facility to meet the demand for its 

15    services.  

16                 And so just a simple emergency 

17    declaration for a storm that's passing through is 

18    not enough to qualify it and trigger the 

19    provisions of this bill.

20                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

21    will the sponsor continue to yield.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

23    continue to yield? 

24                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 


                                                               5625

 1    sponsor yields.

 2                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Great.  Thank 

 3    you for that clarification.  

 4                 So let's assume now it is a -- you 

 5    know, another mass casualty event.  Prior to that 

 6    emergency declaration, would nursing homes have 

 7    to develop a plan or do anything, or does that 

 8    emergency declaration trigger the first action 

 9    that they would have to take?  Does that make 

10    sense?

11                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   (Conferring.)  I 

12    just wanted to confirm what I thought to be true 

13    with staff.

14                 So the plan is to be put together 

15    ahead of time, ahead of the disaster or the 

16    emergency, the pandemic, whatever the 

17    circumstance that triggers this bill is.  And 

18    then the bill calls for following that plan if 

19    there is a trigger.

20                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

21    will the sponsor continue to yield.  

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

23    continue to yield?  

24                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 


                                                               5626

 1    Senator yields.  

 2                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So would part of 

 3    that plan be that now the Department of Health 

 4    would require these nursing homes to develop 

 5    plans that -- to immediately implement -- to be 

 6    immediately implemented, I should say, to start 

 7    building storage facilities on their property 

 8    prior to any catastrophic event?  

 9                 That's the question.  Would they 

10    have to start -- would they have to start 

11    building a facility right now, prior to any 

12    catastrophic event?  

13                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

14    Madam President, no.  

15                 And the bill calls for a plan that 

16    ensures that there is adequate space when there 

17    is excess mortality in these types of situations.  

18    And it could be that nursing homes already have 

19    space where they can store the deceased bodies.  

20                 In those situations where they 

21    don't, the plan can address the issue of space in 

22    a number of ways.  One is one that you just 

23    referenced, which is building out the space.  But 

24    there are a number of alternatives that the bill 

25    calls for or allows for, I should say, such as, 


                                                               5627

 1    you know, contracting with mobile units and 

 2    several other options as well.

 3                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 4    will the sponsor continue to yield.  

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 6    continue to yield?  

 7                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 9    sponsor yields.

10                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So essentially 

11    what we're mandating is that nursing homes will 

12    have to now become morgues.  They're going to 

13    have to have the capacity to properly handle, you 

14    know, corpses.  

15                 So that's really not their function.  

16    And it is certainly something that I think is a 

17    conflict, because I believe that they're required 

18    to move those by law, to move those bodies out 

19    after they pass away, and put them in the hands 

20    of a proper facility like a funeral home.  

21                 Isn't that correct?  Isn't that what 

22    the law requires of nursing homes?

23                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

24    Madam President.  The issue at hand here -- look, 

25    I have a New York Times article, the headline 


                                                               5628

 1    reads "We Ran Out of Space," "Bodies pile up as 

 2    New York struggles to bury its dead."  

 3                 And, you know, I do not view this as 

 4    a mandate.  The study -- or not the study, the 

 5    plan is a mandate.  But the actions in the plan 

 6    are not a mandate.  Because if there is a 

 7    pandemic, another pandemic, if there is some 

 8    other catastrophe that results in, you know, 

 9    tragic significant death within a nursing home or 

10    nursing homes, those bodies have to go somewhere.  

11                 And the nursing homes can't just 

12    pile them up on the sidewalk outside, they can't 

13    just pile them up, you know, at the front door.  

14    They have to be held somewhere until the funeral 

15    home or morgue comes and picks them up.  

16                 And so what we're calling for in 

17    these plans is something that they have to deal 

18    with anyway, plan or not.  And, you know, it was 

19    tragic that we saw during the pandemic, outside 

20    many of these nursing homes were freezer trucks.  

21    Literally, they were throwing bodies into cold 

22    storage trucks and facilities in parking lots.  

23                 And so, you know, yes, the plan is a 

24    mandate, but what the nursing home would come up 

25    with to fulfill the requirements in this plan are 


                                                               5629

 1    things they would have to deal with anyway, plan 

 2    or not.  This is just an attempt to get them to 

 3    begin thinking about and being more ready for the 

 4    next time, instead of being caught flat-footed, 

 5    which many of the nursing homes during the 

 6    pandemic were.

 7                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 8    will the sponsor continue to yield?

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

10    continue to yield?

11                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

13    sponsor yields.

14                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   I understand 

15    that they were overwhelmed.  But everything was 

16    overwhelmed during the pandemic.  

17                 But in the case of nursing homes, 

18    this is not really their function.  You have 

19    funeral homes, you have city morgues and so forth 

20    that are already set up to do this.  So if we're 

21    going to mandate anyone to do something, why 

22    would we -- you know, nursing homes -- which most 

23    of them don't make money, they lose money.  Many 

24    of them are not-for-profits.  They don't get 

25    enough Medicaid reimbursement, Medicare 


                                                               5630

 1    reimbursement.  They are underfunded.  We haven't 

 2    raised rates here in years, at least adequately 

 3    enough for reimbursements.

 4                 Why wouldn't we shift that burden to 

 5    the people that are already in the business of 

 6    doing this, which are funeral homes?

 7                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

 8    Madam President.  During the pandemic -- I mean, 

 9    look, we can talk about hypotheticals.  I'd 

10    rather point to, practically speaking, what 

11    happened during the pandemic.  

12                 And what happened was these bodies 

13    were being stored, sometimes highly 

14    irresponsibly, waiting for pickup by the funeral 

15    homes, but they were at the location in which 

16    they perished, at the nursing home.  And so 

17    something has to be done at the nursing home 

18    level before they are picked up by the funeral 

19    home or morgue.  

20                 And so I don't think anyone's 

21    looking to shift responsibility here.  But just 

22    practically speaking, if an individual dies in a 

23    nursing home, the nursing home has to figure out 

24    what to do with that body because they died on 

25    their premises.


                                                               5631

 1                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 2    will the sponsor continue to yield.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 4    yield?  

 5                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 7    sponsor yields.  

 8                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So the typical 

 9    cost of building a space like this would -- you 

10    know, there's a tremendous amount of cost to 

11    this, to building a space.  And I realize you're 

12    saying they could take temporary measures.  But, 

13    you know, do we have any idea -- is the 

14    Department of Health going to promulgate rules as 

15    to how long they have to have these facilities up 

16    and running?  

17                 In other words, if you say you have 

18    a plan in place, but now -- and your plan 

19    includes building something on your property if 

20    you have the space, how much time are we going to 

21    give them to do that, you know, in the middle of 

22    an emergency?

23                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

24    Madam President.  Hopefully they have all the 

25    time in the world and we never have to deal with 


                                                               5632

 1    a pandemic or some other situation like what we 

 2    went through several years ago ever again.

 3                 But again -- and I understand the 

 4    focus on building out a space.  If there is 

 5    physically no space to build out to, or if it is 

 6    cost-prohibitive, there are plenty of other 

 7    options, alternatives, for -- that are prescribed 

 8    by this bill that would satisfy the statute, if 

 9    this bill was signed into law, that do not 

10    require any construction or building out of new 

11    spaces.

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

13    will the sponsor continue to yield?

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

15    continue to yield?

16                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

18    sponsor yields.

19                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So you bring up 

20    lack of space.  Let's go down to New York City, 

21    Manhattan, where we have -- you have nursing 

22    homes that are on streets where they have no 

23    parking lots, no parking.  Would you then expect 

24    them to rent freezer trucks and put them on the 

25    street?  And would they legally be allowed to do 


                                                               5633

 1    that?  

 2                 And would that bill override any 

 3    local jurisdiction, any local laws that would 

 4    prevent them from parking a mobile morgue, 

 5    essentially, on the street of someplace like 

 6    Manhattan?

 7                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

 8    Madam President.  Certainly I think the easiest 

 9    way to satisfy what's called for in this bill and 

10    in these plans is if the nursing home has 

11    existing space that can be utilized.  I think we 

12    would all agree that's the easiest and most 

13    straightforward way to satisfy what we're talking 

14    about here.  

15                 But again, in the event that they 

16    don't have existing space, they don't have the 

17    ability, for one reason or another, to build out 

18    new additional space, the bill does, for example, 

19    provide an option to contract out with a 

20    third-party mobile unit to deal with what we're 

21    talking about.

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

23    will the sponsor continue to yield.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

25    continue to yield?


                                                               5634

 1                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 3    Senator yields.

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So to continue 

 5    on with these mobile units, your bill requires 

 6    that these mobile units be, and I quote, isolated 

 7    to the greatest extent practicable from view and 

 8    patient or resident living and common areas, 

 9    including preventing access by other persons 

10    other than directly involved with the storage or 

11    transport of bodies of deceased persons.

12                 So if you don't have a parking lot, 

13    if you don't have a secure area, if you're a 

14    nursing home in the middle of Midtown Manhattan, 

15    how are they supposed to secure that on the 

16    streets of -- on a public street?

17                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

18    Madam President, that provision is meant to 

19    address -- or prohibit, rather, a situation where 

20    theoretically a nursing home pulls in a 

21    third-party mobile unit and puts it in the 

22    courtyard of a nursing home, in full view of 

23    every resident as they walk by and live their 

24    daily life.  We don't want situations like that 

25    to crop up.


                                                               5635

 1                 And so, you know, the -- in the 

 2    hypothetical that you shared, there's nothing in 

 3    this bill that would -- again, it's -- the bill 

 4    has practicable language which I think covers the 

 5    situation, the scenario that you're talking 

 6    about.  If need be, because it's not practicable 

 7    otherwise, these mobile units can be off-site.

 8                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Madam President, 

 9    on the bill.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

11    Borrello on the bill.

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

13    Senator Skoufis.

14                 I think we all can agree that we 

15    hope that we never have to go through this again.  

16    What happened in the pandemic and the mass 

17    casualties, particularly in New York City, were 

18    so tragic.  And we can certainly go back and look 

19    at the situation and say now what we did wrong 

20    and what we did right.

21                 But now, going forward, we're saying 

22    we're going to burden nursing homes who have to 

23    deal with our most vulnerable citizens, many of 

24    which are not-for-profits, very few of which 

25    actually, even in the for-profit space, actually 


                                                               5636

 1    make money.  We continue to burden them.  We 

 2    burden them with low reimbursement rates, higher 

 3    regulations, so on and so forth.  

 4                 And now we're saying we want you to 

 5    be in the business of a morgue, on top of 

 6    everything else.  That's what this bill will do.  

 7    We will essentially say now, on top of everything 

 8    else we've asked you to do -- to provide care, 

 9    food, medical attention, rehabilitation, all the 

10    things that happen in nursing homes -- we're also 

11    going to make you build out a morgue in the event 

12    of another mass casualty event.  

13                 Meanwhile, we have funeral homes 

14    that have people that are trained, licensed to 

15    handle people that have passed away.  They have 

16    the vehicles to transport them.  They have the 

17    controlled environments to keep them.  They 

18    understand the importance and the dignity of it, 

19    because that's the business they're in.  

20                 We're telling people whose business 

21    it is to keep our vulnerable citizens alive and 

22    well that they also have to be in this business.  

23    I don't think that's fair.  We are losing nursing 

24    homes and adult care facilities across this state 

25    in troubling numbers.  


                                                               5637

 1                 And I understand the intent of this 

 2    bill.  I don't disagree.  But we're burdening an 

 3    already overburdened segment of healthcare, the 

 4    people who deal with our grandparents, our 

 5    parents, our aunts and uncles, and we're saying 

 6    we want you to be in a brand-new business in the 

 7    event of another tragic event like the pandemic.  

 8                 I don't think it's fair.  I don't 

 9    think we should expect that.  And I would 

10    encourage my colleagues to vote no.

11                 Thank you.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Are there 

13    any other Senators wishing to be heard?

14                 Senator Helming, why do you rise? 

15                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

16    Madam President.  On the bill.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

18    Helming on the bill.

19                 SENATOR HELMING:   So the bill 

20    before us requires nursing homes to designate 

21    dedicated storage spaces for the storage of the 

22    bodies of deceased persons.  

23                 I wanted to start by adding another 

24    headline.  Senator Skoufis shared one headline; I 

25    want to share another headline.  This one I think 


                                                               5638

 1    may be more recent.  It's from February of '25, 

 2    by Spectrum News.  And that headline reads: 

 3    "Nursing home closures create care deserts in 

 4    New York."

 5                 We've had so many closures, staffing 

 6    shortages driving that, funding gaps, 

 7    overregulations are driving so many closures, 

 8    nursing home closures in our communities, and 

 9    it's leaving our seniors with fewer choices.  

10                 We should be focused here in this 

11    body on increasing opportunities for our seniors, 

12    and that includes making sure that we address the 

13    more pressing concern, like I said, in our rural 

14    areas of the need for additional quality bed 

15    spaces and services for our aging population.  

16    The priority, again, should be addressing this 

17    need, not mandating that nursing homes invest 

18    their limited resources in the storage of bodies 

19    of deceased persons.

20                 For this reason, Madam President, I 

21    will be voting no -- Mr. President, I will be 

22    voting no, and I urge my colleagues to do the 

23    same.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   That's 

25    all right.  Senator Mayer is way better-looking 


                                                               5639

 1    than I am.

 2                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

 3    to be heard?

 4                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

 5    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

 6                 Read the last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 9    shall have because a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 1517, voting in the negative are 

17    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

18    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, 

19    Martins, Mattera, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

20    C. Ryan, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

21                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 21.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1812, Assembly Bill Number 6558A, by 


                                                               5640

 1    Assemblymember Lunsford, an act to amend the 

 2    Public Health Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 4    Borrello, why do you rise?

 5                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   I believe it's 

 6    so that I would like to see Senator Harckham 

 7    maybe stretch his legs, stand up a little bit, 

 8    maybe answer a question.  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

10    Harckham, would you yield to stretching your legs 

11    and answering a question?  

12                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Just -- just one 

13    question, Mr. President?

14                 (Laughter.)

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   No promises, 

16    Mr. President.

17                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   No, I yield, 

18    Mr. President. 

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

20    sponsor yields.  

21                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Through you, 

22    Mr. President.  So if I'm reading this bill 

23    correctly, it states that every food 

24    establishment -- a bodega, a chain restaurant, so 

25    on and so forth -- anybody that sells prepackaged 


                                                               5641

 1    foods must label them with all of the 

 2    ingredients, essentially, that could potentially 

 3    be an allergen, is that correct?

 4                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 5    Mr. President, not quite.  

 6                 Anybody who sells prepackaged foods.  

 7    And what we're talking about are things like 

 8    salads, sandwiches that people typically grab and 

 9    go.  Not something that's custom-ordered at the 

10    counter.  

11                 They would just need to label the 

12    nine -- if one of any of the nine most 

13    significant allergen ingredients are in there.  

14    The CDC estimates that these nine account for 

15    90 percent of food allergies.  

16                 And those nine would be milk, eggs, 

17    fish, crustacean shellfish, tree nuts, wheat, 

18    peanuts, sesame and soybeans.  And paragraph B 

19    then says also contains a protein derived from 

20    any of the foods in paragraph A.  

21                 So they wouldn't have to list all of 

22    the ingredients, just the ones that are included.

23                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

24    will the sponsor continue to yield.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 


                                                               5642

 1    sponsor yield? 

 2                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Absolutely.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 4    sponsor yields.  

 5                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Okay.  So -- and 

 6    I understand the prepackaged food.  I know, 

 7    because we do this.  We have a breakfast and 

 8    lunch restaurant that does a lot of prepackaged 

 9    good to go.  We have a deli that does the same 

10    thing.  We have an ice cream stand that actually 

11    does prepackaged ice cream sandwiches that we 

12    make right on the spot.  Come try some sometime.

13                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   I will come this 

14    summer.

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So those are a 

16    lot of -- that's a lot of opportunities, I would 

17    say, to have to comply with this.  And I'm, you 

18    know, speaking on behalf of everyone else that's 

19    in this business, not just me, of course.  

20                 So let's just say, for example, we 

21    go to ice cream, a prepackaged ice cream, like I 

22    just described, an ice cream sandwich that has 

23    cookies and -- I'll make myself hungry.  It has 

24    cookies and ice cream all in this prepackage that 

25    we wrap up and put a label on.  Now, instead of 


                                                               5643

 1    just saying the ingredients include ice cream -- 

 2    with nonfat milk, cream, milk, butter, sugar, 

 3    vanilla -- is it your intent that the label must 

 4    list all of those ingredients?  

 5                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 6    Mr. President, no.  It would only need to list 

 7    what allergens are.  

 8                 So most establishments already put a 

 9    label on these anyhow, label what the brand is, 

10    what the item is, you know, Borrello's ice cream 

11    or some such.  And so labels are being put on, 

12    and if it -- the individual product contained 

13    peanuts, it would just simply have to have a 

14    label that said "must contain peanuts."  

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

16    will the sponsor continue to yield?  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

18    sponsor yield?

19                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Absolutely.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

21    sponsor yields.

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Okay.  So if I 

23    don't put a label on it right now, do I have to 

24    put a label on it if I wrap it up?  Do I have -- 

25    would I be required, if I wrap it up and put it, 


                                                               5644

 1    in the case of an ice cream sandwich, in a 

 2    freezer, am I not required to put a label on that 

 3    that lists those allergens?

 4                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 5    Mr. President, you would be required to.  

 6                 However, if -- let's use the example 

 7    of ice cream sandwiches.  If I walk to the 

 8    counter and you took a wafer, you put the ice 

 9    cream in, and you put the other wafer on top and 

10    you handed me that in a napkin, you would not 

11    have to do the labeling.  Only if they were there 

12    in a prepackaged way.  

13                 And if I may, Mr. President, just 

14    for a little bit of context.  The reason we 

15    proposed this bill, this bill came to me through 

16    a young man who has a food allergy, ate an item, 

17    a prepackaged item, went into shock and almost 

18    died, had his mother not been there with an 

19    EpiPen to save him, because he didn't know what 

20    the ingredients were.

21                 And so there are over 2 million 

22    New Yorkers who have food allergies.  It's a 

23    significant number.  That's one in 10.  And 

24    sadly, nationwide, we lose upwards of 200 people 

25    a year to these types of incidents.  


                                                               5645

 1                 So this is closing the gap between 

 2    packaged and prepackaged, just so folks know, if 

 3    they want to buy one of your ice cream 

 4    sandwiches -- I'm sure it looks very tempting, 

 5    but they should know whether there's something 

 6    that they're allergic to in there.

 7                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

 8    will the sponsor continue to yield.  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

10    sponsor yield?

11                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Yes.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

13    sponsor yields.

14                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   That's certainly 

15    a terrifying scenario you just described.  But 

16    most people that have food allergies are usually 

17    prepared for that.  So if I make an ice cream 

18    sandwich fresh, hand it to them on a napkin, I 

19    don't have to -- I'm not obligated to tell them 

20    about any allergens.  But if I wrap it up and 

21    that same person buys it, I am.  I don't 

22    understand what we're accomplishing there.  

23                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Well, because 

24    we're talking about the prepackaged market.  

25    We're not talking about the fresh market.  We're 


                                                               5646

 1    talking about prepackaged foods.  

 2                 So how often do folks on their way 

 3    to work pick up a prepackaged sandwich which 

 4    they're going to have later, a prepackaged salad 

 5    which they can have later?  It's those that are 

 6    prepackaged that already have a label on them.  

 7    This is just one other step of labeling.

 8                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

 9    will the sponsor continue to yield.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

11    sponsor yield? 

12                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Absolutely.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

14    sponsor yields.  

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   I understand the 

16    intent.  But if I am handing someone a bacon, egg 

17    and cheese breakfast sandwich and someone has an 

18    egg allergy, I don't have to tell them, and they 

19    don't have to -- they're not going to ask me, I'm 

20    not going to tell them.  

21                 But if that same person with that 

22    same egg allergy, you know, picks it up out of 

23    the little hotbox, somehow I'm now obligated to 

24    tell them about the allergens.  

25                 So the issue is the same, whether 


                                                               5647

 1    it's a fresh-made bacon, egg and cheese sandwich, 

 2    which says it has egg in it, or whether it's 

 3    prepackaged.  So I guess I'm trying to 

 4    understand, other than making this more 

 5    complicated for small businesses, how we're going 

 6    to improve safety.  

 7                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 8    Mr. President.  There is a difference.  Because 

 9    the consumer -- if you're behind the counter, the 

10    consumer can ask you.  So they can say, I am 

11    allergic to eggs, does this contain eggs?  And 

12    then you as a responsible business owner will 

13    say, as a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich, it 

14    contains eggs.  

15                 But when there's not that personal 

16    interaction, when someone is just getting 

17    something from a counter or off a shelf -- I go 

18    back to the example of this young man who goes 

19    after -- when they get out of high school, he and 

20    his friends go across the street.  And what do 

21    young high school students do?  They want to eat 

22    after school.  And so they're all grabbing things 

23    off the shelf, and he is unable to do that 

24    because he doesn't know what the ingredients are 

25    in a wrap, in a sandwich, in a salad.  


                                                               5648

 1                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

 2    will the sponsor continue to yield? 

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 4    sponsor yield?

 5                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Absolutely.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 7    sponsor yields.

 8                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Let's just say 

 9    you go get a peanut butter and jelly sandwich 

10    that's prepackaged at a convenience store.  

11    You've got peanut butter, which has multiple 

12    things in it that could be problematic.  But it 

13    says "peanut butter" because it's a peanut butter 

14    and jelly sandwich.  

15                 What is it that they will be 

16    required to list?  Would they be required to 

17    list, you know, wheat, peanuts, sesame -- because 

18    it's on a piece of bread that contains, you know, 

19    wheat flour, all that kind of stuff.  You know, 

20    if it's a hard roll, it's got sesame seeds.  You 

21    have to list sesame, which is also another 

22    allergen.  

23                 How much in a peanut butter and 

24    jelly sandwich on a hard roll, a sesame hard 

25    roll, how many different things would have to be 


                                                               5649

 1    listed?  And what are they?  

 2                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Through you, 

 3    Mr. President.  It depends on what the 

 4    ingredients of any given item are.  If any of 

 5    these nine items are in that, they need to be 

 6    listed.  Right?  Right. 

 7                 So if there are three of the nine, 

 8    Mr. President, it would require three of the 

 9    nine.  If there were one of the nine, it would 

10    require, you know, "This product contains 

11    peanuts," "This product contains eggs."

12                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

13    on the bill.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

15    Borrello on the bill.

16                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

17    Senator Harckham.  Appreciate the engagement 

18    today, as usual.  

19                 So I know this is good intent.  We 

20    have lot of bills here that are good intent.  But 

21    when you operate a small business that isn't in 

22    the business of food processing and packaging -- 

23    you know, obviously if there are bigger places, 

24    like when you stop at a Thruway service area, 

25    that contract with a company whose business it is 


                                                               5650

 1    to make sandwiches and salads, put them in 

 2    containers, put labels on them, they print the 

 3    labels, they make them en masse, they know how to 

 4    handle it.  

 5                 When you start talking about a small 

 6    business like I have described, someone who makes 

 7    their own, you know, homemade bacon, egg and 

 8    cheese on a bagel and wraps it up and puts it out 

 9    there -- for the convenience of their customers, 

10    they put them out there -- this bill may drive 

11    those people to no longer provide that 

12    convenience and to lose that revenue.

13                 I also am always concerned about the 

14    legal ramifications, right?  We don't want to 

15    have these, you know, legal bounty hunters out 

16    there saying, Look at that, there's a bacon, egg 

17    and cheese sandwich at this little bodega that 

18    doesn't have a label on it, and now they've got 

19    some financial and legal problems as a result.  

20    Which is probably what's going to happen.  

21                 At the end of the day, we have to 

22    recognize the fact that as horrible as it is -- 

23    and I know lots of people who have lots of food 

24    allergies, which is really tragic -- they also 

25    have that responsibility.  And most of the time 


                                                               5651

 1    they're very conscientious about asking or 

 2    looking or finding out.  

 3                 And I realize you could run into a 

 4    store, grab a sandwich, pay for it, but you have 

 5    to at some point have some kind of interaction 

 6    with somebody in a small business, most likely.  

 7    That way you can ask, Hey, you know what, what's 

 8    in this sandwich?  

 9                 I know people that, again, have 

10    gluten allergies, severe gluten allergies.  

11    They're very, very, very conscientious about 

12    asking, every time:  Can I eat this?  Because 

13    here's my problem.

14                 You know, so I understand the intent 

15    of this, but I think it's very onerous, 

16    particularly on small businesses, particularly on 

17    those that just don't have the staffing, the 

18    capability to meet this standard.  

19                 There are people out there that can 

20    do this, and those are the folks that I think we 

21    should ensure are doing it, because that's the 

22    business that they are in.  But for small 

23    businesses, I think this would be a little bit 

24    too much of a burden.  

25                 I'm sure there's some changes that 


                                                               5652

 1    could be made to improve it.  But in its current 

 2    form, I'm going to vote no, and I would certainly 

 3    encourage my colleagues to do the same.

 4                 Thank you.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 6    you, Senator Borrello.  

 7                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

 8    to be heard?

 9                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

10    closed.  Ring the bell.

11                 Read the last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

13    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

14    have become a law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

19    Harckham to explain his vote.

20                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you very 

21    much, Mr. President.  

22                 I want to thank my colleague 

23    Senator Borrello for the discussion.  I do look 

24    forward to coming out this summer and visiting 

25    your establishment.  I know we've talked about 


                                                               5653

 1    that before.  We will get out there this summer.  

 2                 Mr. President, there are over 

 3    2 million New Yorkers who have food allergies.  

 4    Upwards of 200 Americans die each year because of 

 5    allergic reaction to a food.  And those numbers 

 6    are dwarfed by scores, multiple scores more who 

 7    are hospitalized.  Those hospitalizations cost 

 8    our healthcare system, cost our economy.  

 9                 This is a way to close the loop.  

10    Right now packaged goods are required by the 

11    federal government to be labeled.  This closes a 

12    loop, as we discussed, on prepackaged foods -- 

13    sandwiches, salads, things like that.  

14                 I want to thank all of the 

15    advocates, the students and their parents who 

16    advocate for this and other allergen bills, as 

17    well as the more than 19 organizations who have 

18    endorsed this bill, the food allergy research  

19    and education organizations, the Asthma and 

20    Allergy Foundation, the American College of 

21    Allergy, Asthma and Immunology, the 

22    Greater Buffalo Allergy Alliance, and on and on 

23    and on.  

24                 So we are very proud of this bill.  

25    We want to thank all of the advocates and 


                                                               5654

 1    supporters.  And I will proudly be voting aye.  

 2                 Thank you.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 4    Harckham to be recorded in the affirmative.

 5                 Prior to calling for the announcing 

 6    of results, please keep some order in the 

 7    chamber.

 8                 Announce the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

10    Calendar 1812, voting in the negative are 

11    Senators Borrello, Chan, Gallivan, Helming, 

12    Martins, O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, 

13    Weber and Weik.

14                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 12.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

16    is passed.

17                 Senator Gianaris.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Mr. President, 

19    on the supplemental calendar there was a bill 

20    that was laid aside because the bill was high, 

21    but that was in error.  So if we could remove the 

22    lay-aside on Calendar 1865 and take that up, 

23    please.  

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Remove 

25    the lay-aside on Calendar 1865.


                                                               5655

 1                 The Secretary will read.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1865, Senate Print 8396, by Senator Gianaris, an 

 4    act to amend Chapter 704 of the Laws of 1991.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

15    Calendar 1865, voting in the negative are 

16    Senators Martins and Skoufis.  

17                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 We'll return to the controversial 

21    calendar.

22                 The Secretary will ring the bell.

23                 The Secretary will read.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1836, Senate Print 7638A, by Senator Hinchey, an 


                                                               5656

 1    act to amend the General Municipal Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 3    Borrello, why do you rise?

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Because 

 5    apparently I'm a glutton for punishment, 

 6    Mr. President.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   You are 

 8    wearing a nice jacket, Senator Borrello.

 9                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   I think you are 

10    as well.  Thank you.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

12    you, sir.

13                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Will the sponsor 

14    yield for a question.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

16    sponsor yield? 

17                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   I will.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

19    sponsor yields.

20                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Through you, 

21    Mr. President.  First of all, excuse my back as I 

22    face this way.

23                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Your jackets are 

24    twins.

25                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   (Laughing.)  He 


                                                               5657

 1    looks better in it than I do.

 2                 (Laughter.)

 3                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So obviously we 

 4    understand that this bill -- you want to 

 5    change -- essentially you want to incentivize 

 6    certain people, certain companies that are 

 7    engaged in certain practices that you like, I 

 8    guess would be the best way to say it, since this 

 9    is your bill.  

10                 But why did you make the change from 

11    last year when -- to make the local economy 

12    standard?  So just one of the ways to qualify for 

13    the preference, instead of meeting these 

14    standards and another one, it seems to be -- this 

15    could be leading to incentivizing out-of-state 

16    companies, potentially, based on the way this is 

17    written.  You know, giving preference to 

18    out-of-state companies because they meet those 

19    standards and practices that you prefer in this 

20    pill.

21                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Sure.  Through 

22    you, Mr. President, I appreciate the question.  

23    Thank you, Senator Borrello.

24                 What the intention -- starting with 

25    I think the first point, the intention of this 


                                                               5658

 1    bill is actually to help expand markets for our 

 2    New York State farmers and start to actually pay 

 3    them even more money for the products that they 

 4    grow here in our state.

 5                 So what it does is allows 

 6    municipalities to be able to pay 10 percent 

 7    higher than the lowest responsible bidder if 

 8    the -- where they're purchasing from, if the farm 

 9    or the farm business meets one of the criteria.  

10                 The important part, though, is that 

11    one of the amendments that we did make is that 

12    it's actually within New York State and one of 

13    the criteria below.  So this is only for 

14    businesses that are located in New York State.

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

16    will the sponsor continue to yield?  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

18    sponsor yield?

19                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   I do.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

21    sponsor yields.

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So, you know, 

23    obviously we've had a lot of investment in dairy 

24    here in New York State, because we're all proud 

25    of our dairy here.  But it appears that these 


                                                               5659

 1    dairy products are excluded from the nutrition 

 2    standard of this bill.  Why would that be?

 3                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Through you, 

 4    Mr. President.  This bill is really mostly 

 5    focused on broader crops.  

 6                 You know, we have done a lot of work 

 7    in this chamber, including this year we are 

 8    pushing to expand whole milk back into our 

 9    schools.  And we fixed it, in the budget, to make 

10    sure that our dairy farms were able to get the 

11    overtime tax credit that we had passed 

12    historically, we had passed previously.  It was 

13    vetoed.  We got that done in the budget.  

14                 So we love and support our dairy 

15    farmers.  We also talked to NEDPA, and they're 

16    not opposed to this bill.  

17                 But this is really focused on mostly 

18    the growers.

19                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

20    would the sponsor continue to yield.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

22    sponsor yield?

23                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   I do.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

25    sponsor yields.  


                                                               5660

 1                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Well, I think we 

 2    both can agree that despite all that we've done, 

 3    our dairy farmers are still under a lot of strain 

 4    here in New York State.  We see it more and more.

 5                 And we also know that when it comes 

 6    to nutrition and, you know, trying to obviously 

 7    get better, more nutritious foods into the hands 

 8    particularly of, you know, low-income people, our 

 9    children in schools, that dairy is a great way to 

10    do that.  

11                 So why would we not include them in 

12    this bill?  

13                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Through you, 

14    Mr. President.  I agree.  I think, you know, the 

15    science is clear that whole milk is especially 

16    nutritious especially for our children, which is 

17    why we are, with your help, pushing the whole 

18    milk in schools bill, and I'm hopeful that we 

19    will pass that this session.

20                 Again, this bill has been focused on 

21    the growers.  If we can get this bill signed by 

22    the Governor, would love to revisit it to add in 

23    dairy as well.

24                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

25    will the sponsor continue to yield?


                                                               5661

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 2    sponsor yield?

 3                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   I will.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 5    sponsor yields.

 6                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   I'm glad to hear 

 7    that, that that would be a good change.

 8                 But on page 2 of your bill there was 

 9    a change made to require the bidder to be based 

10    in New York.  But couldn't this also include 

11    distributors?  

12                 I know in the restaurant business 

13    you have food distributors that bring food in 

14    from all over.  They're still a New York-based 

15    company, but the food that they are actually 

16    buying would not necessarily be from New York.  

17    These are food aggregators, essentially.  

18                 So how are we going to ensure that 

19    the person that's given the contract is actually 

20    purchasing New York-grown products?  

21                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   (Conferring.)  

22    Through you, Mr. President.  Thank you.  

23                 At least 51 percent has to be 

24    sourced in New York State.  So it's over 

25    50 percent of the products have to be sourced 


                                                               5662

 1    from our state to be -- to qualify.

 2                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

 3    will the sponsor continue to yield?  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

 5    sponsor yield?

 6                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   I do.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.

 9                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Certainly 

10    51 percent is obviously just more than half.  

11                 But, you know, when you start 

12    talking about food distributors, these are folks 

13    that typically, you know, are -- they're bigger 

14    companies, they are -- they're going to be 

15    competing now with smaller companies that might 

16    be actually a hundred percent New York-grown, a 

17    hundred percent New York-based product.  

18                 So you're really kind of, you know, 

19    with this standard that you have here, which I 

20    think is a change, you know, the school -- how 

21    are schools supposed to evaluate the fact that 

22    they're dealing with a company that is bringing 

23    in food from all over?  Even if it's 51 percent, 

24    49 percent of it is going to be from outside 

25    New York State.  


                                                               5663

 1                 But we're doing this obviously with 

 2    New York State -- intentions of promoting 

 3    New York State-grown products, right?  So how are 

 4    they supposed to evaluate that standard?

 5                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Through you, 

 6    Mr. President.  The 51 percent was modeled after 

 7    the New York Grown and Certified Program, which 

 8    is a program that actually our farmers rave 

 9    about, so much so that we added that program into 

10    the local economies portion of this bill.  

11                 But the standard in New York Grown 

12    and Certified is 51 percent, so we followed that 

13    as well.

14                 I'd also be curious in, you know, 

15    where specifically in the bill -- I know you 

16    mentioned line 2, I just want to make sure I'm 

17    looking at the right thing where you're talking 

18    specifically about distributors.  Because in this 

19    bill we're not talking about distributors, and I 

20    just want to make sure we're on the same page.  

21                 But overall, the 51 percent is 

22    modeled after New York Grown and Certified.

23                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

24    can I answer her question?  How would I do -- on 

25    the bill, to answer the question?


                                                               5664

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 2    Borrello to answer the question on the bill, yes.

 3                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you.

 4                 So it's on page 2 of the bill.  And 

 5    it's a change that was made recently to require 

 6    the bidder to be based in New York.  But this 

 7    could include distributors.  I don't think it 

 8    specifically spells out distributors, but it 

 9    could be distributors.  I don't think it's clear 

10    as to excluding distributors from that on page 2.  

11                 Because, again, these are -- you 

12    start talking about U.S. Foods, as an example.  

13    They're a big national company that could be 

14    included in this because they have operations in 

15    New York State.

16                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Through you, 

17    Mr. President.  Thank you.  

18                 But to answer the question, the 

19    51 percent is based on New York Grown and 

20    Certified.

21                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Okay, moving on.  

22                 Mr. President, will the sponsor 

23    continue to yield.  

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

25    sponsor yield?


                                                               5665

 1                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

 3    sponsor yields.  

 4                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So this 

 5    10 percent standard says if you meet one or more 

 6    of the requirements.  I mean, wouldn't we want to 

 7    maybe strengthen that to maybe two or more or 

 8    three or more of those requirements?  

 9                 One or more is kind of a low bar 

10    that I think would include a lot of folks like I 

11    was describing that, you know, may not be really 

12    pushing out as much of the New York-grown 

13    products as we would like.

14                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Through you, 

15    Mr. President.  We did not want to make this 

16    onerous on our farmers, specifically.  The entire 

17    point of this program is to make it so that our 

18    farmers have additional markets, specifically in 

19    places like New York City.  

20                 One of the things we hear both from 

21    the city itself and from our farmers is it's a 

22    market that they don't have as much access to as 

23    they would like, and the city would like to buy 

24    more from growers upstate.  

25                 And so what we are working to do is 


                                                               5666

 1    to really connect those dots and have that happen 

 2    so we can support our farmers and farm businesses 

 3    in New York, keep them thriving -- because 

 4    there's a lot of pressures, both not just 

 5    nationally but internationally.  And that is -- 

 6    sorry, I've lost my train of thought here.  

 7                 But that we're wanting to make 

 8    sure -- we're wanting to make it easier.  And so 

 9    by having too many of the criteria be an "and" -- 

10    which is something we actually heard from the ag 

11    community that they didn't want -- we're hoping 

12    that we can have more folks qualify and expand 

13    even more markets for our farmers across the 

14    state.

15                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

16    will the sponsor continue to yield? 

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

18    sponsor yield?

19                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   I do.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The 

21    sponsor yields.  

22                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   So given that 

23    this bill was actually vetoed last year by the 

24    Governor because she had concerns, some of the 

25    ones I've outlined, how has this bill been 


                                                               5667

 1    changed this year to ensure that the Governor 

 2    doesn't veto it again?

 3                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you.  

 4                 Through you, Mr. President.  The 

 5    bill has been changed to address the veto 

 6    message.  The concerns were more about some of 

 7    the existing programs at Ag & Markets like 

 8    New York Grown and Certified and the 

 9    Climate Resilient Farming program.  So we've 

10    actually added those programs into the qualifying 

11    criteria.  

12                 We have New York Grown and Certified 

13    referenced in the local economies, and we have 

14    the climate resilient farming referenced within 

15    the environmental standards bucket.  

16                 Again, both of those things were 

17    things that we talked to our farmers about, and 

18    the Farm Bureau and our farming coalition, and 

19    they were supportive in wanting to have that 

20    included as well.

21                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

22    will the sponsor continue to yield.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Will the 

24    sponsor yield?

25                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   I do.


                                                               5668

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   the 

 2    sponsor yields.

 3                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Well, I think we 

 4    all know the New York Farm Bureau is obviously an 

 5    important ally and advocate for our farmers, and 

 6    they are -- continue to be opposed to this bill.  

 7                 One of the things that they say in 

 8    their opposition memo is the bill establishes 

 9    preferences in state law that don't reflect 

10    regulated production methods.  So the New York 

11    Farm Bureau has serious concerns with the 

12    preference language in the environmental 

13    sustainability, animal welfare, nutrition, and 

14    valued workforce standards.  

15                 So if the folks that represent the 

16    farmers that we're trying to help -- and they are 

17    opposed to this, how come we haven't made I guess 

18    even more changes and considerations to this law?  

19    Because clearly the Farm Bureau is still opposed.

20                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Through you, 

21    Mr. President.  We worked really closely with the 

22    Farm Bureau and made a lot of changes, actually, 

23    that they wanted.  

24                 I think one of the challenges was 

25    that they would have preferred to have just had 


                                                               5669

 1    existing law reflected in the criteria.  

 2                 And the point of the bill is to 

 3    allow municipalities and local governments to pay 

 4    a little bit more than they can currently for the 

 5    values that they believe in, whether that is good 

 6    environmental practices or local economies being 

 7    one.

 8                 And so we made a number of changes.  

 9    I can't speak to the Farm Bureau specifically, 

10    although there are a number of things in this 

11    memo where they address things that we have 

12    actually addressed in the bill.  Their first memo 

13    of opposition that they sent this year had a 

14    number of errors in it that were addressed in the 

15    current iteration of the bill.  

16                 And regarding the regulation 

17    perspective, we've passed a number of pieces of 

18    legislation through this chamber that help our 

19    farmers that they've been supportive of.  I mean, 

20    we change the purchasing thresholds for state 

21    agencies.  Instead of waiting to do that by 

22    regulations, we worked to do that through this 

23    chamber.  And whole milk in schools again could 

24    be done regulatorily, but we want to make sure 

25    that we do that statutorily.  


                                                               5670

 1                 So this is a bill that is really 

 2    meant to help our farmers.  Again, a number of 

 3    the other organizations are not opposed to it.  

 4    NOFA is in strong support of this bill.  And 

 5    we've worked with all of our farmers to try to 

 6    get them as close to positive as we could.

 7                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Mr. President, 

 8    on the bill.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

10    Borrello on the bill.

11                 SENATOR BORRELLO:   Thank you, 

12    Chairwoman Hinchey.  Again, I am proud to be the 

13    ranking member of the Senate Ag Committee with 

14    Senator Hinchey as the chair.

15                 But I still have concerns here.  So 

16    we want to encourage more New York-grown products 

17    to be in our schools and our municipalities and 

18    so on and so forth.  We have the Farm-to-School 

19    program, where this bill says you can pay 

20    10 percent more, but you have to make sure that 

21    you have all these hoops to jump through that 

22    really have nothing to do with good nutrition and 

23    good agriculture, honestly.  

24                 I understand the sustainable farming 

25    and, you know, all these things that -- social 


                                                               5671

 1    equity things.  But at the end of the day what we 

 2    really want is we want our farmers to be able to 

 3    sell food, and we want to give government 

 4    agencies, schools, the ability to spend a little 

 5    bit more to get that.  We can do that.  We don't 

 6    have to make them jump through all these hoops.  

 7    We can do it.  We have this Farm-to-School 

 8    program that is horribly underutilized, largely 

 9    because they have a hard time navigating all of 

10    this.  

11                 And in here, in the Farm Bureau's 

12    opposition memo, it says New York Farm Bureau 

13    also has concerns regarding how these standards 

14    will be evaluated by municipalities.  Some 

15    municipalities will not have the resources or 

16    understanding of agricultural practices to 

17    evaluate products and establish criteria for 

18    these standards.  

19                 What we're saying is we have to make 

20    them into experts on things like sustainable 

21    farming and the social equity programs that might 

22    be in place on a farm.  I just think that's too 

23    much.  We can do this more simply.  

24                 Do you grow food in New York?  

25    Great.  This municipality can spend 10 percent 


                                                               5672

 1    more, or this school district can spend 

 2    10 percent more to buy something from a farmer in 

 3    New York.  I don't care what color they are, I 

 4    don't care what kind of practices they are, 

 5    they're a farmer in New York, and that's what we 

 6    should be doing to support them.  

 7                 So I'll be voting no.  Thank you.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Thank 

 9    you, Senator Borrello.  

10                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

11    to be heard?

12                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

13    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

14                 Read the last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

21    Hinchey to explain her vote.

22                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

23    Mr. President.  

24                 And I want to thank my colleague 

25    Senator Borrello for the discussion on this bill.


                                                               5673

 1                 A couple of points.  As it pertains 

 2    to municipalities and local governments having 

 3    too much confusion on what can qualify, 

 4    municipalities are actually the ones that are 

 5    asking us for this bill.  

 6                 We've worked very closely, 

 7    specifically, with the City of New York because 

 8    they want to buy more food from our upstate 

 9    farmers.  

10                 And we've talked to local 

11    governments across our state who are very 

12    interested and excited about this bill.  

13                 Specifically for New York City, 

14    though, right now they're actually purchasing a 

15    number of their different food contracts from 

16    places like Pennsylvania, Connecticut and 

17    New Jersey.  We want to give them the tools -- 

18    which is why we added best value into the bill in 

19    this current iteration -- we want to give them 

20    the tools and the ability to really focus on 

21    buying from New York to strengthen our farmers 

22    and to give them more markets so that our farm 

23    businesses can stay in business here in New York.  

24                 I'm really proud of this bill.  

25    We've addressed a number of the issues in the 


                                                               5674

 1    veto message, I believe all of the issues in the 

 2    veto message.  This bill I believe has passed 

 3    this chamber -- this might be the third or fourth 

 4    time, and I look forward to it being signed into 

 5    law this year.

 6                 Thank you very much.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 8    Hinchey to be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                 Announce the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 1836, voting in the negative are 

12    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

13    Chan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, Mattera, 

14    O'Mara, Ortt, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

15    Weber and Weik.  Also Senator Oberacker.  

16                 Ayes, 41.  Nays, 18.

17                 Sorry.  Senator Martinez in the 

18    affirmative, excuse me.  

19                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 17.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

23    reading of the controversial calendar.

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

25    Mr. President.


                                                               5675

 1                 At this time we're going to break 

 2    for respective party conferences and come back to 

 3    take up another Rules agenda and a supplemental 

 4    calendar, at which point we will conclude our 

 5    work for the evening.  

 6                 So please call on Senator Lanza.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Senator 

 8    Lanza.  

 9                 SENATOR LANZA:   Thank you, 

10    Senator Gianaris.

11                 Mr. President, there will be an 

12    immediate meeting of the Republican Conference in 

13    Room 315 of the Capitol.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   Immediate 

15    meeting of the Republican Conference in Room 315 

16    of the Capitol.

17                 Senator Gianaris.  

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   And an immediate 

19    meeting of the Democratic Conference in Room 332.  

20                 Session will reconvene at 8:00 p.m.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT BAILEY:   There 

22    will be an immediate meeting of the 

23    Democratic Conference in Room 332.  

24                 The Senate will reconvene at 

25    8:00 p.m. 


                                                               5676

 1                 The Senate stands at ease.

 2                 (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

 3    at 7:08 p.m.) 

 4                 (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

 5    9:07 p.m.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The Senate 

 7    will return to order.

 8                 Senator Gianaris.

 9                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

10    I believe we have some messages from the 

11    Assembly.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

13    Secretary will read.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Jackson 

15    moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

16    Civil Service and Pensions, Assembly Bill 

17    Number 779 and substitute it for the identical 

18    Senate Bill 12, Third Reading Calendar 286.  

19                 Senator Mayer moves to discharge, 

20    from the Committee on Disabilities, Assembly Bill 

21    Number 7325 and substitute it for the identical 

22    Senate Bill 6619, Third Reading Calendar 736.

23                 Senator Hinchey moves to discharge, 

24    from the Committee on Judiciary, Assembly Bill 

25    Number 6556 and substitute it for the identical 


                                                               5677

 1    Senate Bill 5514, Third Reading Calendar 774.

 2                 Senator May moves to discharge, from 

 3    the Committee on Judiciary, Assembly Bill 

 4    Number 1890 and substitute it for the identical 

 5    Senate Bill 7358, Third Reading Calendar 775.  

 6                 Senator Sepúlveda moves to 

 7    discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

 8    Assembly Bill Number 203B and substitute it for 

 9    the identical Senate Bill 5294B, Third Reading 

10    Calendar 893.

11                 Senator Jackson moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Civil Service and Pensions, 

13    Assembly Bill Number 6624 and substitute it for 

14    the identical Senate Bill 5760, Third Reading 

15    Calendar 949.

16                 Senator Hoylman-Sigal moves to 

17    discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

18    Assembly Bill Number 3307A and substitute it for 

19    the identical Senate Bill 1840A, Third Reading 

20    Calendar 987.

21                 Senator Sanders moves to discharge, 

22    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

23    Number 7235 and substitute it for the identical 

24    Senate Bill 6315, Third Reading Calendar 1009.

25                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 


                                                               5678

 1    from the Committee on Finance, Assembly Bill 

 2    Number 4723 and substitute it for the identical 

 3    Senate Bill 3106, Third Reading Calendar 1041.

 4                 Senator Martinez moves to discharge, 

 5    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 6    Number 8601A and substitute it for the identical 

 7    Senate Bill 7543A, Third Reading Calendar 1108.

 8                 Senator Harckham moves to discharge, 

 9    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

10    Number 8237B and substitute it for the identical 

11    Senate Bill 6930B, Third Reading Calendar 1235.

12                 Senator Harckham moves to discharge, 

13    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

14    Number 7843B and substitute it for the identical 

15    Senate Bill 7706B, Third Reading Calendar 1240.

16                 Senator Jackson moves to discharge, 

17    from the Committee on Civil Service and Pensions, 

18    Assembly Bill Number 8417 and substitute it for 

19    the identical Senate Bill 8181, Third Reading 

20    Calendar 1313.

21                 Senator Hoylman-Sigal moves to 

22    discharge, from the Committee on Rules, 

23    Assembly Bill Number 4997 and substitute it for 

24    the identical Senate Bill 4289, Third Reading 

25    Calendar 1375.


                                                               5679

 1                 Senator Bynoe moves to discharge, 

 2    from the Committee on Environmental Conservation, 

 3    Assembly Bill Number 8281 and substitute it for 

 4    the identical Senate Bill 7862, Third Reading 

 5    Calendar 1381.

 6                 Senator Bynoe moves to discharge, 

 7    from the Committee on Environmental Conservation, 

 8    Assembly Bill Number 8654 and substitute it for 

 9    the identical Senate Bill 7863A, Third Reading 

10    Calendar 1382.

11                 Senator Bynoe moves to discharge, 

12    from the Committee on Environmental Conservation, 

13    Assembly Bill Number 8661 and substitute it for 

14    the identical Senate Bill 7864, Third Reading 

15    Calendar 1383.

16                 Senator Cooney moves to discharge, 

17    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

18    Number 2496 and substitute it for the identical 

19    Senate Bill Number 3257, Third Reading 

20    Calendar 1396.  

21                 Senator Baskin moves to discharge, 

22    from the Committee on Consumer Protection, 

23    Assembly Bill Number 4521 and substitute it for 

24    the identical Senate Bill 6722, Third Reading 

25    Calendar 1413.


                                                               5680

 1                 Senator Stec moves to discharge, 

 2    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 3    Number 4025 and substitute it for the identical 

 4    Senate Bill 19, Third Reading Calendar 1430.

 5                 Senator Stec moves to discharge, 

 6    from the Committee on Rules, Assembly Bill 

 7    Number 8011 and substitute it for the identical 

 8    Senate Bill 7368, Third Reading Calendar 1444.

 9                 Senator Scarcella-Spanton moves to 

10    discharge, from the Committee on Insurance, 

11    Assembly Bill Number 3280A and substitute it for 

12    the identical Senate Bill 3323A, Third Reading 

13    Calendar 1447.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   So 

15    ordered.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

17    let's take up the Supplemental Active List No. 2, 

18    please.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

20    Secretary will read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    286, Assembly Bill Number 779, by 

23    Assemblymember Pheffer Amato, an act to amend the 

24    Civil Service Law.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               5681

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    383, Senate Print 2666A, by Senator Salazar, an 

14    act to amend the Correction Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 383, voting in the negative are 


                                                               5682

 1    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

 2    Gallivan, Griffo, Martins, Oberacker, Ortt, 

 3    Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 4                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 14.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    567, Senate Print 5935A, by Senator Addabbo, an 

 9    act to amend the Racing, Pari-Mutuel Wagering and 

10    Breeding Law.

11                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is laid aside.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    589, Senate Print 5556, by Senator Hoylman-Sigal, 

16    an act to amend the Insurance Law.

17                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside for 

18    the day, please.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is laid aside for the day.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    707, Senate Print 5510, by Senator Parker, an act 

23    to require the New York State Energy Research and 

24    Development Authority to develop recommendations 

25    regarding the establishment of microgrids.


                                                               5683

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 2    last section.  

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 707, voting in the negative:  

12    Senators Oberacker and Walczyk.

13                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    718, Senate Print 6533, by Senator Stavisky, an 

18    act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5684

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    736, Assembly Bill Number 7325, by 

 8    Assemblymember Paulin, an act to amend Section 4 

 9    of Part C of Chapter 57 of the Laws of 2024.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    774, Assembly Bill Number 6556, by 

24    Assemblymember Rosenthal, an act to amend the 

25    Civil Practice Law and Rules.


                                                               5685

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

11    Calendar 774, voting in the negative:  

12    Senator Ortt.

13                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    775, Assembly Bill Number 1890, by 

18    Assemblymember Glick, an act to amend the 

19    Real Property Law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

21    last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

23    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

24    shall have become a law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 


                                                               5686

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 775, voting in the negative are 

 7    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 8    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, 

 9    Mattera, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, 

10    Rhoads, Rolison, C. Ryan, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

11    Weber and Weik.

12                 Ayes, 37.  Nays, 22.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    784, Senate Print 5997C, by Senator Gallivan, an 

17    act to amend the Highway Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 


                                                               5687

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    893, Assembly Bill Number 203B, by 

 7    Assemblymember Cruz, an act to amend the 

 8    Public Health Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

12    act shall take effect on the 280th day after it 

13    shall have become a law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

15    roll.  

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

18    the results.  

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar 893, voting in the negative:  

21    Senator Oberacker.

22                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               5688

 1    946, Senate Print 6446, by Senator May, an act to 

 2    amend the General Business Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.  

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 946, voting in the negative are 

14    Senators Borrello, Griffo, Mattera, Oberacker, 

15    Palumbo and Walczyk.

16                 Ayes, 53.  Nays, 6.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    949, Assembly Bill Number 6624, by 

21    Assemblymember Pheffer Amato, an act to amend the 

22    Civil Service Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               5689

 1    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 2    shall have become a law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    987, Assembly Bill Number 3307A, by 

13    Assemblymember Bores, an act to amend the 

14    Uniform Commercial Code.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 88.  This 

18    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

19    shall have become a law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               5690

 1    Calendar 987, voting in the negative:  

 2    Senator Walczyk.

 3                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    1009, Assembly Bill Number 7235, by 

 8    Assemblymember Bichotte Hermelyn, an act to amend 

 9    the Executive Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect immediately.  

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

18    the results.  

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1011, Senate Print 7001, by Senator Mayer, an act 

24    to amend the State Finance Law.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 


                                                               5691

 1    last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 9.  This 

 3    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 4    shall have become a law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1014, Senate Print 3966A, by Senator Stavisky, an 

15    act to amend the Education Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

19    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

20    shall have become a law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               5692

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1041, Assembly Bill Number 4723, by 

 6    Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend the 

 7    State Finance Law.

 8                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

10    is laid aside.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1055, Senate Print 6360A, by Senator Harckham, an 

13    act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

17    act shall take effect immediately.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

19    roll.

20                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

22    the results.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24    Calendar 1055, voting in the negative:  

25    Senator Brisport.


                                                               5693

 1                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1072, Senate Print 6008, by Senator Baskin, an 

 6    act to amend the Highway Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1092, Senate Print 6578, by Senator Hinchey, an 

21    act to amend the Public Health Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

25    act shall take effect on the 30th day after it 


                                                               5694

 1    shall have become a law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1108, Assembly Bill Number 8601A, by 

12    Assemblymember Ramos, an act authorizing New Hour 

13    for Women and Children LI, Inc., to receive 

14    retroactive real property tax exempt status.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

23    the results.  

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 1108, voting in the negative are 


                                                               5695

 1    Senators O'Mara and Skoufis.

 2                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1110, Senate Print 2078, by Senator Mayer, an act 

 7    to amend the Labor Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 

11    act shall take effect immediately.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

18    Calendar 1110, voting in the negative are 

19    Senators Borrello, Gallivan, Oberacker, Stec and 

20    Walczyk.

21                 Ayes, 54.  Nays, 5.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1176, Senate Print 5727, by Senator Harckham, an 


                                                               5696

 1    act to amend the Education Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 5    act shall take effect one year after it shall 

 6    have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    1233, Senate Print 6265A, by Senator C. Ryan, an 

17    act to amend the Highway Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

21    act shall take effect immediately.  

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 


                                                               5697

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1233, voting in the negative:  

 4    Senator Brisport.

 5                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1235, Assembly Bill Number 8237B, by 

10    Assemblymember Slater, an act to amend the 

11    Highway Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 1235, voting in the negative:  

23    Senator Brisport.

24                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 


                                                               5698

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1236, Senate Print 6952A, by Senator Sanders, an 

 4    act to amend the Highway Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 8    act shall take effect immediately.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

10    roll.

11                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

13    the results.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to  

15    Calendar 1236, voting in the negative:  

16    Senator Brisport.

17                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1238, Senate Print 7362A, by Senator Harckham, an 

22    act to amend the Highway Law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 


                                                               5699

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 6    the results.  

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 1238, voting in the negative:  

 9    Senator Brisport.

10                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1240, Assembly Bill Number 7843B, by 

15    Assemblymember Slater, an act to amend the 

16    Highway Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

25    the results.  


                                                               5700

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1243, Senate Print 7835A, by Senator Skoufis, an 

 6    act to amend the Highway Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1252, Senate Print 3967B, by Senator Sepúlveda, 

21    an act to amend the Penal Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

23    last section.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

25    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 


                                                               5701

 1    shall have become a law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 6    Persaud to explain her vote.

 7                 SENATOR PERSAUD:   Thank you, 

 8    Madam President.  

 9                 I rise to speak on this bill because 

10    it's a bill that's important in my district, the 

11    19th Senatorial District.  And I would like 

12    anyone in the chamber, at any given time, just to 

13    come down to see what happens in an area that's 

14    called the Penn Track.  

15                 This bill today relates to 

16    individuals engaged in sex work who are victims 

17    of or witnesses to crime.  This is not about 

18    legalization of prostitution, as some may think.  

19    We tend to advocate for survivors of human 

20    trafficking and sexual violence, and hence I 

21    support this legislation.  

22                 Back in January, myself, 

23    Senator Cooney, Senator Webb, we convened a 

24    shareholders meeting to discuss sex trafficking.  

25    We convened with members across the 


                                                               5702

 1    transportation sector.  We had representatives 

 2    from the building industry, State DOT, 

 3    State Police, and nonprofit organizations.  

 4                 The major theme from that discussion 

 5    was how do we empower the victims of sex 

 6    trafficking to come forward and assist in 

 7    delivering justice without themselves being 

 8    criminalized.  

 9                 And this bill gets to that.  Someone 

10    who is a victim of trafficking in an area such as 

11    the Penn Track can come forward and speak with 

12    law enforcement without the fear of being placed 

13    in handcuffs.  Too often the people who are being 

14    trafficked would not cooperate with law 

15    enforcement because they themselves are then made 

16    to be criminals.

17                 This is a step in the right 

18    direction to help the people in my district, a 

19    district where even the federal government is 

20    currently working to remove the scourge of 

21    trafficking in the 19th Senatorial District.

22                 If you look at any -- just Google 

23    it, you will see reports after reports after 

24    reports talking about what needs to be done on 

25    the Penn Track.  Why is it that law enforcement 


                                                               5703

 1    can't get a handle on the young people -- as 

 2    young as 10 years old -- being trafficked, and 

 3    afraid to speak to law enforcement?  

 4                 You can walk that area, it doesn't 

 5    matter what time of day or night, and you will 

 6    see people just like you and I walking the 

 7    streets who are being manipulated by others, but 

 8    they have no way out.  Because if they walk into 

 9    the arms of law enforcement, then they have 

10    another issue.

11                 On Monday -- there was an article on 

12    Monday, Penn Track again:  "Brooklyn man 

13    convicted of committing murder in the course of 

14    sex trafficking at Penn Track in East New York."  

15    This is my district.  This is my district.  

16                 We need to eliminate the scourge of 

17    trafficking in my district.  And I'm asking all 

18    of you to support me in this endeavor.  We must 

19    end sex trafficking.  We must allow the victims 

20    to be able to work with law enforcement without 

21    the fear that they themselves will become 

22    criminals.  That's all I'm asking for.

23                 And so to Senator Sepúlveda, I thank 

24    you for bringing this bill to the floor, because 

25    this is a bill that will help the people in 


                                                               5704

 1    Senate District 19, the most -- the worst place 

 2    for sex trafficking that is being talked about 

 3    across the country, a place called the 

 4    Penn Track.

 5                 So Madam President, I vote aye.

 6                 Thank you.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 8    Persaud to be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                 Announce the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1258, Senate Print 3105, by Senator Cooney, an 

15    act to amend the Cannabis Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               5705

 1    Calendar 1258, voting in the negative are 

 2    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 3    Chan, Griffo, Lanza, Martinez, Martins, Mattera, 

 4    Oberacker, Palumbo, Rhoads, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

 5    Weber and Weik.

 6                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 16.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1278, Senate Print 2644, by Senator Addabbo, an 

11    act to amend the Insurance Law.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

13    last section.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15    act shall take effect immediately.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

22    Calendar 1278, voting in the negative are 

23    Senators Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick and Walczyk.

24                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 


                                                               5706

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    1313, Assembly Bill Number 8417, by 

 4    Assemblymember Pheffer Amato, an act amending 

 5    Part B of Chapter 104 of the Laws of 2005.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 9    act shall take effect immediately.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1320, Senate Print 7380B, by Senator Gallivan, an 

20    act to amend the Highway Law.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

22    last section.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

24    act shall take effect immediately.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 


                                                               5707

 1    roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar 1320, voting in the negative:  

 7    Senator Brisport.

 8                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1. 

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1359, Senate Print 6225, by Senator Rivera, an 

13    act to amend the Social Services Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

17    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

18    shall have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 1359, voting in the negative:  


                                                               5708

 1    Senator Walczyk.

 2                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1375, Assembly Bill Number 4997, by 

 7    Assemblymember Glick, an act to amend the 

 8    Environmental Conservation Law.

 9                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

11    is laid aside.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1381, Assembly Bill Number 8281, by 

14    Assemblymember Schiavoni, an act to amend the 

15    Environmental Conservation Law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

17    last section.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

19    act shall take effect immediately.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.


                                                               5709

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    1382, Assembly Bill Number 8654, by 

 5    Assemblymember Glick, an act to amend the 

 6    Environmental Conservation Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10    act shall take effect immediately.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

18    is passed.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

20    1383, Assembly Bill Number 8661, by 

21    Assemblymember Schiavoni, an act to amend 

22    Chapter 366 of the Laws of 2011.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

24    last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               5710

 1    act shall take effect immediately. 

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 6    the results.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8    Calendar 1383, voting in the negative are 

 9    Senators Brisport, Martinez and Skoufis.

10                 Ayes, 56.  Nays, 3.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1396, Assembly Bill Number 2496, by 

15    Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend the 

16    State Finance Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

22    roll.

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

25    the results.


                                                               5711

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1407, Senate Print 704A, by Senator Krueger, an 

 6    act to amend the General Business Law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 8    last section.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

10    act shall take effect September 1, 2026.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

15    the results.  

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 1407, voting in the negative:  

18    Senator Walczyk.

19                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

21    is passed.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23    1413, Assembly Bill Number 4521, by 

24    Assemblymember Hyndman, an act to amend the 

25    General Business Law.


                                                               5712

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect immediately.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 6    roll.

 7                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 9    the results.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    1430, Assembly Bill Number 4025, by 

15    Assemblymember Simpson, an act to amend the 

16    Public Officers Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect immediately.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

22    roll.  

23                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

25    the results.  


                                                               5713

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 2    Calendar 1430, voting in the negative are 

 3    Senators Brisport and Weik.

 4                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    1444, Assembly Bill Number 8011, by 

 9    Assemblymember Jones, an act to amend the 

10    Tax Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

21    Calendar 1444, voting in the negative are 

22    Senators Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Gallivan, 

23    Harckham, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, Mattera, 

24    O'Mara, Palumbo, C. Ryan, Scarcella-Spanton, 

25    Skoufis and Weik.


                                                               5714

 1                 Ayes, 46.  Nays, 13.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 3    is passed.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5    1447, Assembly Bill Number 3280A, by 

 6    Assemblymember Bichotte Hermelyn, an act to amend 

 7    the Insurance Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 5.  This 

11    act shall take effect January 1, 2027.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

13    roll.

14                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

16    the results.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

19    is passed.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21    1524, Senate Print Number 1744A, by 

22    Senator Hoylman-Sigal, an act to amend the 

23    Criminal Procedure Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5715

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

 3    shall have become a law.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 8    the results.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

11    is passed.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13    1543, Senate Print 106, by Senator Comrie, an act 

14    to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

19    shall have become a law.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

21    roll.

22                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

24    the results.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               5716

 1    Calendar 1543, voting in the negative are 

 2    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

 3    Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Oberacker, 

 4    O'Mara, Ortt, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk and Weber.  

 5                 Ayes, 45.  Nays, 14.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 7    is passed.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9    1565, Senate Print 8045, by Senator Bynoe, an act 

10    to amend the Executive Law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

12    last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

15    shall have become a law.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

17    roll.

18                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

20    the results.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    1567, Senate Print 8091, by Senator Cooney, an 


                                                               5717

 1    act to amend the Tax Law.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 3    last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 5    act shall take effect immediately.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

12    Calendar 1567, voting in the negative are 

13    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Bynoe, 

14    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, 

15    Lanza, Martinez, Martins, Mattera, Oberacker, 

16    O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, 

17    Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

18                 Ayes, 38.  Nays, 21.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1599, Senate Print 634B, by Senator Liu, an act 

23    to amend the Insurance Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5718

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1599, voting in the negative:  

10    Senator Walczyk.

11                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1602, Senate Print 1757, by Senator Persaud, an 

16    act to amend the Social Services Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

21    shall have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 


                                                               5719

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 3    Calendar 1602, voting in the negative are 

 4    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 5    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Mattera, Oberacker, 

 6    Palumbo, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

 7    and Weik.

 8                 Ayes, 44.  Nays, 15.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12    1613, Senate Print 3262, by Senator Cooney, an 

13    act to amend the Banking Law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

15    last section.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

17    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

18    shall have become a law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

23    the results.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 1613, voting in the negative:  


                                                               5720

 1    Senator Ortt.

 2                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    1670, Senate Print 8370, by Senator Fahy, an act 

 7    to amend the Education Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

12    shall have become a law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

20    is passed.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22    1671, Senate Print 8371, by Senator Brisport, an 

23    act to amend the Education Law.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

25    last section.


                                                               5721

 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2    act shall take effect immediately.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 4    roll.

 5                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 7    the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 1671, voting in the negative:  

10    Senator Martinez.

11                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    1672, Senate Print Number 8373, by 

16    Senator Hoylman-Sigal, an act to amend the 

17    Surrogate's Court Procedure Act.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 8.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               5722

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 1672, voting in the negative are 

 5    Senators Borrello, Chan, Griffo, Helming, 

 6    Oberacker, Rhoads and Walczyk.

 7                 Ayes, 52.  Nays, 7. 

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 9    is passed.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    1673, Senate Print 8383, by Senator Stavisky, an 

12    act to provide for the adjustment of stipends of 

13    certain incumbents in the State University of 

14    New York.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Read the 

16    last section.

17                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 17.  This 

18    act shall take effect immediately.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

20    roll.

21                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

23    the results.  

24                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25    Calendar 1673, voting in the negative:  


                                                               5723

 1    Senator Walczyk.

 2                 Ayes, 58.  Nays, 1.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

 6    reading of the calendar.

 7                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   At this time, 

 8    Madam President, we're going to move to the 

 9    controversial calendar.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

11    Secretary will ring the bell.

12                 The Secretary will read.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14    567, Senate Print 5935A, by Senator Addabbo, an 

15    act to amend the Racing, Pari-Mutuel Wagering and 

16    Breeding Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

18    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, why do you rise?

19                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

20    Good evening, Madam President.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Good 

22    evening.

23                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   I 

24    was wondering if the sponsor would yield for a 

25    few questions.


                                                               5724

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Will the 

 2    sponsor yield?  Senator Addabbo, do you yield?

 3                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 4    Madam President.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.  

 7                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 8    Thank you, Senator Addabbo.  

 9                 My understanding is that this bill 

10    is going to prohibit online sweepstakes games and 

11    revenue from illegal markets, and I was hoping 

12    you could clarify for me -- through you, 

13    Madam President -- what illegal markets are you 

14    referring to in this bill?  

15                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

16    Madam President.  As of now, our state has not 

17    legalized online gaming.  The legal markets 

18    currently are the seven licensed casinos in 

19    New York and any other gaming issue that has been 

20    authorized by New York.

21                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

22    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

23    continue to yield.  

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

25    continue to yield?  Senator Addabbo, do you 


                                                               5725

 1    continue to yield?

 2                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Oh, I'm sorry, 

 3    Madam President.  Yes, of course.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 5    Senator yields.

 6                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

 7    my understanding is that simple digital 

 8    spin-the-wheel or bracket-style predictors, you 

 9    know, different things that we might see on our 

10    phone might be considered this type of digital 

11    online gaming.  Is that correct?  

12                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   There are many 

13    forms -- Madam President, through you.  There are 

14    many forms of digital games on your phone.  This 

15    bill particularly, specifically talks about 

16    online casino-type games.

17                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK: 

18    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

19    continue to yield.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

21    continue to yield? 

22                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

23    Madam President.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

25    Addabbo yields.


                                                               5726

 1                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 2    Okay.  So my understanding is that the 

 3    enforcement of these provisions is going to be 

 4    the responsibility of the State Gaming 

 5    Commission, the State Police, and the 

 6    Attorney General's office.  And I'm wondering how 

 7    they intend to try to enforce online activity.

 8                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

 9    Madam President.  Through the issuance of 

10    cease-and-desist orders.  And other methods that 

11    they can use for enforcement.  

12                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   I'm 

13    sorry, could you repeat that?

14                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Sure.  Again, 

15    through you, Madam President.  Through 

16    cease-and-desist orders and any other means of 

17    enforcement that the Gaming Commission or the 

18    Attorney General has at its disposal.

19                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

20    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

21    continue to yield.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

23    continue to yield?

24                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

25    Madam President.


                                                               5727

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 2    sponsor yields.

 3                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

 4    would Starbucks' Star Days, McDonald's Monopoly, 

 5    Jersey Mike's sports predictor games or other 

 6    promotional sweepstakes become illegal on 

 7    day one?  

 8                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

 9    Madam President.  Definitely not.  

10                 Again, specifically in language, 

11    Section 912(a) says casino games, casino-style 

12    games.  And it's listed in the legislation.

13                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

14    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

15    continue to yield.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

17    continue to yield?

18                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

19    Madam President.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Yes, the 

21    sponsor yields.  

22                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   The 

23    Attorney General already has power to prosecute 

24    unlawful gaming, so I'm wondering -- in 

25    Article 225 of the Penal Law it already gives the 


                                                               5728

 1    Attorney General broad investigative authority.  

 2    What does this legislation add to it?

 3                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

 4    Madam President.  Again, what this bill does, it 

 5    does clarify what is the illegal activity which 

 6    is the online gaming, casino-style online gaming.

 7                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 8    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

 9    continue to yield?  

10                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

11    Madam President.

12                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

13    through you, Madam President.  If I could read to 

14    you, proposed 912(2)(b) reads:  "It shall be 

15    unlawful for any applicant, licensed entity, 

16    financial institution, payment processor, 

17    geolocation provider, gaming content supplier, 

18    platform provider, or media affiliate to support 

19    the operation, conduct, or promotion of online 

20    sweepstakes games within the State of New York." 

21                 My question for you is, are we 

22    turning credit unions and banks into 

23    law enforcement agencies?

24                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

25    Madam President, no.


                                                               5729

 1                 Again, this is an illegal activity.  

 2    And no entity should facilitate an illegal 

 3    activity.  So if there is a credit union who is 

 4    promoting, conducting or operating an illegal 

 5    activity, such as these online sweepstakes 

 6    casinos, that would be the only way that they 

 7    would be, again, given a fine.  

 8                 But no, we are not asking them to 

 9    enforce.

10                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

11    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

12    continue to yield?

13                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

14    Madam President.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

16    continue to yield? 

17                 The sponsor yields.

18                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

19    continuing on that line, though, if a company is 

20    using their bank to collect payments from online 

21    gaming, aren't you putting the responsibility on 

22    the financial institution to know what all of 

23    their customers are doing?  The same way that we 

24    don't check when Macy's is charging a credit card 

25    for purchase of merchandise, we don't expect the 


                                                               5730

 1    bank to know what Macy's is doing.  

 2                 Now you're putting that burden on 

 3    these other vendors.  

 4                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

 5    Madam President.  No, the idea is, again, through 

 6    federal law and state law, actually, we're not 

 7    asking them to take a background check on their 

 8    entities.  

 9                 The bottom line is if they knowingly 

10    take the money that was, again, in part of them, 

11    the credit union or the lending institution, 

12    financial institution -- if they are, again, part 

13    of an illegal activity that they know of to 

14    promote, conduct or operate, that's the only time 

15    they'd be in trouble.  

16                 So we're not looking to them to do a 

17    background check on their clients or anyone who's 

18    opening up a new account, no.  

19                 But if the entity opens up a new 

20    account -- or I should say the customer opens up 

21    a new account and they give a free coin or they 

22    give some free kind of way to use the online 

23    illegal activity, then they are in trouble.  

24    Because there again, once again, they're 

25    facilitating an illegal activity in New York.


                                                               5731

 1                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 2    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

 3    continue to yield.  

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 5    continue to yield?

 6                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 7    Madam President.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 9    sponsor yields.

10                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

11    through you, Madam President.  By the example 

12    that was just given, though, you're expecting a 

13    financial institution to know what their customer 

14    is doing.  And you're putting a burden on the 

15    financial institution to know whether or not 

16    their customer is giving away a free coin with 

17    something that they're promoting.

18                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Madam President, 

19    through you.  No, not that they know that the 

20    entity is, that they are.  If the institution is 

21    giving it away.

22                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK: 

23    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

24    continue to yield.

25                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 


                                                               5732

 1    Madam President.  

 2                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 3    Does the bill guarantee notice and an opportunity 

 4    to cure before the Gaming Commission levies a 

 5    violation?  Because my understanding is the 

 6    violations can be up to $100,000.

 7                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   That is true, 

 8    anywhere from 10,000 to 100,000.

 9                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

10    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

11    continue to yield.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

13    continue to yield?

14                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

15    Madam President.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

17    sponsor yields.

18                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

19    Okay.  So under that violation, 10,000 to 

20    100,000, will there be some opportunity for -- a 

21    person who's been cited for violating this 

22    provision, will they be given some warning such 

23    that -- let me rephrase it.

24                 You're going to get a $10,000 

25    violation and work your way up to the 100,000, so 


                                                               5733

 1    that you're going to know before you get to the 

 2    100,000?  Or is the 100,000 potentially the fee 

 3    that could be charged for a first violation?

 4                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

 5    Madam President.  The due process of the 

 6    Attorney General and the Gaming Commission will 

 7    give them a warning.  They'd be, again, reached 

 8    out to, yes.

 9                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK: 

10    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

11    continue to yield.  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Will the 

13    sponsor yield?

14                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

15    Madam President.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

17    sponsor yields.  

18                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

19    who has primary responsibility, the 

20    Gaming Commission or the Attorney General?  What 

21    if there's a conflict between those entities?

22                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

23    Madam President.  It's a cooperative effort with 

24    each other.  So the Gaming Commission, the 

25    Attorney General's office, they do speak to each 


                                                               5734

 1    other.  State law enforcement as well.

 2                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 3    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

 4    continue to yield.

 5                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 6    Madam President.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.

 9                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

10    if Apple or Google host an app and somewhere 

11    offer a dual currency promotion, is that a 

12    platform that's exposed to the penalties under 

13    912(2)(b)?

14                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

15    Madam President.  If they are operating an 

16    illegal online casino-style game, yes.  It's not 

17    legal in New York.

18                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:    

19    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

20    continue to yield.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

22    continue to yield?

23                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

24    Madam President.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 


                                                               5735

 1    sponsor yields.  

 2                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   Has 

 3    the fiscal note quantified potential job or 

 4    investment losses if legitimate promotional tools 

 5    migrate to friendlier jurisdictions?

 6                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

 7    Madam President, that's not anticipated to occur 

 8    under this, no.

 9                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

10    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

11    continue to yield.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

13    continue to yield?

14                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

15    Madam President.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

17    sponsor yields.

18                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

19    Thank you, Senator.  

20                 So my question also, how are we 

21    going to track down companies that are promoting 

22    online casinos if they are not within New York?  

23    How is our jurisdiction going to get to the 

24    people that are putting something on my phone or 

25    your phone here physically in New York and 


                                                               5736

 1    they're out of New York State?

 2                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

 3    Madam President.  We do that already.  We monitor 

 4    already what is online illegal activity.  So this 

 5    is an online illegal casino-type game, then 

 6    that's what we already do.  We already monitor, 

 7    Madam Leader -- Madam President.

 8                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 9    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

10    continue to yield.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

12    continue to yield? 

13                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

14    Madam President.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

16    sponsor yields.

17                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   So 

18    admittedly I haven't had a chance to really dive 

19    into this in great detail, but my understanding 

20    is that there's some conflicts between 

21    Section 912(2) and (3) regarding uncertainty 

22    about the true intended targets of the bill and 

23    its penalty provisions.  

24                 And I'm wondering if you have any 

25    comment on the fact that, you know, there might 


                                                               5737

 1    be some conflict between those provisions.

 2                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Madam President, 

 3    on our side we do not think there's a conflict at 

 4    all.  I think it's rather clear what we're trying 

 5    to -- the intent of bill is to eliminate illegal 

 6    gaming activity online.

 7                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 8    Through you, Madam President, will the sponsor 

 9    continue to yield.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

11    continue to yield?

12                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

13    Madam President.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

15    sponsor yields.

16                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   And 

17    just one last question.  Is there anything here 

18    that will protect minors from getting access to 

19    online gaming?

20                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Madam President, 

21    through you.  When we make it illegal through 

22    this bill and it gets passed, the answer is yes.  

23                 That's the whole real push here.  

24    These online sites, these online illegal sites 

25    target minors.  With a click of a button, you're 


                                                               5738

 1    21, and it's wrong.  There is no checking of age 

 2    on most of these sites.  So you want to talk 

 3    about a site that targets minors, that's exactly 

 4    what this bill is going to do.  

 5                 And until we regulate it in 

 6    New York, it's going to continue to happen and 

 7    proliferate.  So this bill actually addresses 

 8    that whole issue about are we allowing minors to, 

 9    you know, game illegally and entice them to game.  

10    That's what this bill addresses.

11                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:    

12    Thank you, Madam President.  On the bill.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

14    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick on the bill.

15                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

16    Thank you, Senator Addabbo, for answering my 

17    questions.  

18                 I certainly applaud the intent, that 

19    we are trying to control gaming, make sure that 

20    it doesn't fall into the hands of minors.  

21    Because we certainly know that what goes on on 

22    our phones is quite aggressive when it comes to 

23    getting to our minors.  

24                 I do have some concerns about the 

25    responsibility that you are putting on financial 


                                                               5739

 1    institutions, because I think it is a little 

 2    unclear as to what their responsibility is.  And 

 3    I'm hoping that we can work on clarifying that in 

 4    the future.

 5                 Thank you, Madam President.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you.

 7                 Senator Rhoads, why do you rise?

 8                 SENATOR RHOADS:   I was hoping that 

 9    my good friend Senator Addabbo may yield to a 

10    couple of questions.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

12    Addabbo, do you yield?  

13                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   I yield, 

14    Madam President.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

16    Senator yields.

17                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you.  

18    Through you, Madam President.  

19                 What exactly -- I admittedly am not 

20    as familiar with online gaming as some may be.  

21    Can you please explain to me what counts as a -- 

22    what is a dual currency system?  

23                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Dual currency, 

24    they'll be gold coins and they'll be sweepstakes 

25    coins.  And that's what they use to entice you to 


                                                               5740

 1    play.  You think you're playing and you're 

 2    actually gaining these coins, but in the end 

 3    these coins equate to cash prizes, which makes 

 4    it, again, illegal.

 5                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

 6    continue to yield.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 8    continue to yield?  

 9                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

10    Madam President.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

12    sponsor yields.

13                 SENATOR RHOADS:   So I know that 

14    you've already said that games like Starbucks -- 

15    I have the Starbucks app, and they will offer 

16    their spin-the-wheel game so that you can 

17    actually win a free coffee or a free breakfast 

18    sandwich or something like that.  Those aren't 

19    included in this bill, correct?  

20                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

21    Madam President, correct.

22                 SENATOR RHOADS:   And will the 

23    sponsor continue to yield?

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

25    continue to yield?


                                                               5741

 1                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 2    Madam President.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 4    sponsor yields.

 5                 SENATOR RHOADS:   I was listening 

 6    intently to Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick's 

 7    questioning and your answers, and there seemed to 

 8    be an inconsistency with respect to some of the 

 9    language that's contained in the bill.  

10                 With respect to online payment 

11    processors specifically, you used the term 

12    "knowingly" in terms of when they would be 

13    violating Section 912.  However, Section 912 

14    specifically states -- it uses the term "support 

15    the operation."  It doesn't use the term 

16    "knowingly support the operation."  

17                 Is this a knowing standard?  And if 

18    so, where is intent included in the statute?  

19    Because it doesn't seem to have that in the 

20    language.

21                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   (Conferring.)  

22    Through you, Madam President.  There is an 

23    overlying federal law regarding what is illegal, 

24    and they would have to adhere to the federal law 

25    at that level.


                                                               5742

 1                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

 2    continue to yield.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 4    continue to yield?

 5                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 6    Madam President.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.  

 9                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Well, since you 

10    use very specific terminology in 

11    Section 912(2)(b) which says that a payment 

12    processor would be violating the statute if they 

13    support the operation, conduct or promote 

14    sweepstakes games within the State of New York.  

15                 So how does that language reconcile 

16    with federal law that you're saying is 

17    controlling?  And if federal law is controlling, 

18    what's the purpose of the statute?

19                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   (Conferring.)  

20    Through you, Madam President.  Actually, the 

21    federal law does say that if you're doing illegal 

22    gaming activity under federal or state law -- 

23    that is stated in the federal law -- then you 

24    would be obviously knowing about the illegal 

25    activity in New York State.


                                                               5743

 1                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

 2    continue to yield.  

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 4    continue to yield?

 5                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 6    Madam President.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.  

 9                 SENATOR RHOADS:   If I understand 

10    the last answer correctly, it's that if you are 

11    violating federal or state law, you would 

12    knowingly be in violation?  I didn't really 

13    understand the last response.

14                 What I'm trying to get to is under 

15    federal law, if federal law regulates this area, 

16    what is the purpose of the state law provision?  

17    And then I'll have a follow-up question to that.

18                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

19    Madam President.  The federal law refers to both 

20    federal law and state law when it comes to gaming 

21    issues.  That's why, again, we feel it's in our 

22    jurisdiction to address this illegal gaming 

23    activity in New York State.

24                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

25    continue to yield.  


                                                               5744

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 2    continue to yield?

 3                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 4    Madam President.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.  

 7                 SENATOR RHOADS:   So then I'll 

 8    switch to what -- the meaning here of the state 

 9    law that's proposed.  

10                 When you say that a payment 

11    processor, geolocation provider, gaming content 

12    supplier, platform provider or media affiliate 

13    would be guilty if they support the operation, 

14    conduct or promote sweepstakes games within the 

15    State of New York, what does that mean in the 

16    context of your earlier statement that they have 

17    to knowingly do so?  

18                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   So they provide a 

19    service in which right now they are thinking they 

20    have a loophole with the dual currency.  Through 

21    you, Madam President, that they have a loophole 

22    through the dual currency.  

23                 But if they now knowingly -- that 

24    they have an illegal activity in New York State 

25    after this bill, then the bottom line is we would 


                                                               5745

 1    obviously have the opportunity to find them and 

 2    hopefully eliminate them in New York State.

 3                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

 4    continue to yield?

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 6    continue to yield?

 7                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 8    Madam President.  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

10    sponsor yields.  

11                 SENATOR RHOADS:   What sorts of -- 

12    when you say "knowingly," how do you qualify 

13    that?  In other words, what types of activity, 

14    what types of information would they have to have 

15    in order for it to be determined that they knew 

16    that their client was actually engaging in this 

17    type of activity?

18                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

19    Madam President.  The federal law that I referred 

20    to, that both states federal law and state law, 

21    has safe-harbor language in there to basically 

22    lay out what is knowingly.

23                 SENATOR RHOADS:   And will the 

24    sponsor continue to yield.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 


                                                               5746

 1    continue to yield?

 2                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 3    Madam President.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 5    sponsor yields.

 6                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Where in the state 

 7    law does it refer to those criteria?

 8                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Madam President, 

 9    through you.  It's under federal law that it 

10    refers to federal and state law.

11                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

12    continue to yield.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

14    continue to yield?

15                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

16    Madam President.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

18    sponsor yields.

19                 SENATOR RHOADS:   I don't mean to be 

20    obtuse on this, but we're passing a state statute 

21    today.  Does the statute refer to the criteria 

22    that are laid out in federal law anywhere so that 

23    there's some guidance as to how these payment 

24    processors or geolocation providers can actually 

25    be in compliance with state law?


                                                               5747

 1                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Madam President, 

 2    again, we don't have to lay that out.  If it's 

 3    laid out under federal law, we don't have to lay 

 4    that out.  

 5                 And the federal law is giving us the 

 6    opportunity as a state to regulate it in 

 7    New York -- in this case ban it, the illegal 

 8    activity.  So we don't have to lay it out if it's 

 9    already laid out in the federal law.

10                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you for that 

11    response.  

12                 Will the sponsor continue to yield?

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

14    continue to yield?  

15                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

16    Madam President.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

18    sponsor yields.  

19                 SENATOR RHOADS:   The legislation 

20    indicates that the Gaming Commission can decide 

21    when a simple digital spin-the-wheel or 

22    bracket-style predictor crosses the line.

23                 How exactly will the commission 

24    engage in this type of rule-making?

25                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 


                                                               5748

 1    Madam President.  Obviously the Gaming Commission 

 2    is in the business of regulating gaming in 

 3    New York.  They do have obviously the means and 

 4    the wherewithal to regulate this kind of illegal 

 5    activity or identify this illegal activity in 

 6    New York.

 7                 SENATOR RHOADS:   And do we know 

 8    what the evidentiary threshold is going to be?  

 9    Or is that the same federal -- oh, does the 

10    sponsor yield?  Sorry.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Does the 

12    sponsor continue to yield?

13                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

14    Madam President.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

16    sponsor yields.  

17                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Do we know what 

18    the evidentiary threshold is going to be for a 

19    violation of state law?  Or is that the same 

20    criteria in the federal law that you indicated?

21                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Once again -- 

22    Madam President, again, through you.  Once again, 

23    we have not legalized online casino games in 

24    New York.  Once you do that and you're allowing 

25    people to win money off of it, it's illegal.  So.


                                                               5749

 1                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

 2    continue to yield?

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 4    continue to yield? 

 5                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 6    Madam President.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 8    sponsor yields.  

 9                 SENATOR RHOADS:   I understand that.  

10    I'm referring specifically to not the ones that 

11    are actually providing games, but the ones that 

12    are processing the payments.  Right?  

13                 How -- how -- what will the 

14    evidentiary threshold be to determine whether or 

15    not there was a violation by those actors?  Not 

16    the ones that are engaging in it directly, but 

17    the ones that are knowingly supporting that 

18    activity by processing payments?  

19                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Madam President, 

20    through you.  Again, in looking at the federal 

21    law, there's safe-harbor listings that are what 

22    is actually the activity that -- their 

23    responsibility, it's listed there.  So it's going 

24    to be under federal law at that point.

25                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Okay.  All right.  


                                                               5750

 1    Will the sponsor continue to yield.  

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 3    continue to yield?

 4                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

 5    Madam President.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 7    sponsor yields.

 8                 SENATOR RHOADS:   At some future 

 9    date, if this does pass today, would the sponsor 

10    consider actually spelling those out in the 

11    statute so that it's clear?  

12                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Through you, 

13    Madam President.  If it's listed already under 

14    federal law, I don't know -- see the reasoning 

15    why it's our responsibility to do that, 

16    Madam President.

17                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

18    continue to yield?

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

20    continue to yield?

21                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Yes, 

22    Madam President.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

24    sponsor yields.  

25                 SENATOR RHOADS:   But is there any 


                                                               5751

 1    reference in this statute to the federal law at 

 2    all?

 3                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Madam President, 

 4    through you.  There's no reason to list it if 

 5    it's already existing federal law.

 6                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you, 

 7    Senator Addabbo.  I appreciate it.  

 8                 I'm going to speak briefly on the 

 9    bill, if that's okay.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

11    Rhoads on the bill.

12                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Yeah, I certainly 

13    understand and I applaud the idea behind the 

14    bill-in-chief.  Online gaming is certainly 

15    something that's not permitted in the State of 

16    New York.  We certainly don't want that to fall 

17    into the wrong hands.  

18                 You know, I am a little curious as 

19    to why we didn't try to take a more targeted 

20    approach specifically at those bad actors that 

21    are engaging in this, and why we've included 

22    payment processors, geolocation providers who -- 

23    we're now all of a sudden putting the burden on 

24    them to make a determination as to what activity 

25    is or isn't illegal that's being done by third 


                                                               5752

 1    parties that they happen to service.

 2                 I just am also concerned that it's 

 3    not clear as to what constitutes a violation.  

 4    You know, I know Senator Addabbo was kind enough 

 5    to refer to federal statute.  But in looking at a 

 6    state statute and whether or not there's a 

 7    violation of a state statute, if I'm doing 

 8    business in the State of New York, I want to know 

 9    how can I avoid violating state law.  

10                 But if the criteria on how I can 

11    avoid violating state law aren't listed in the 

12    state statute, I might not know to look at the 

13    federal statute.  I'm not involved in gaming.  

14    Why would I look at the federal gaming statute if 

15    I'm an online payment processor?  

16                 It just seems as though, even though 

17    well-intentioned, this constitutes a bit of an 

18    overreach, and I just wish there was more clarity 

19    in the bill.  

20                 But I thank you for your indulgence, 

21    Madam President.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Are there 

23    any other Senators wishing to be heard?

24                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

25    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.


                                                               5753

 1                 Read the last section.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 3    act shall take effect immediately.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 5    roll.  

 6                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 8    Addabbo to explain his vote.

 9                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Thank you, 

10    Madam President.  

11                 I want to thank my colleagues -- sit 

12    down -- 

13                 (Laughter.)

14                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   I want to thank 

15    my colleagues for their support here.  And I do 

16    appreciate the dialogue with my friends on the 

17    other side.  

18                 You know, we have an opportunity 

19    here, since the state has not legalized online 

20    gaming yet, Senator Krueger -- the bottom line is 

21    this.  

22                 (Laughter.)

23                 SENATOR ADDABBO:   Without doing it, 

24    what happens is we lose not only significant 

25    sustainable revenue, but we lose the opportunity 


                                                               5754

 1    of helping people with a problem gaming 

 2    addiction.  

 3                 These sweepstakes casinos -- and why 

 4    we should feel proud of what we do today -- have 

 5    been targeting minors, have been allowing people 

 6    to game illegally.  And we're taking a good step 

 7    to avoid that.  

 8                 You know, when New York is 

 9    surrounded by other states that have online 

10    gaming -- New Jersey, Pennsylvania, 

11    Connecticut -- we lose money to them.  But more 

12    importantly, we lose money to an illegal 

13    activity.  We lose money to an online shadow -- 

14    business in the shadows that we don't know.  It's 

15    an illegal market that's really doing very well.  

16    And now we're trying to put a little light on 

17    that illegal market.  And I think that's a great 

18    step we take.

19                 I appreciate the efforts of this 

20    body.  I appreciate the efforts of the 

21    Attorney General's office.  I appreciate the 

22    efforts of the Gaming Commission, and our leader 

23    for allowing this to come forward.  Because until 

24    we legalize online gaming in New York, we do not 

25    want the illegal market to expand, to grow, to 


                                                               5755

 1    target minors, to target those who have a 

 2    problem.

 3                 The fines that will be issued 

 4    through this bill, we should know those fines 

 5    that are collected go right to problem gaming 

 6    programs.  So we are going to be still helping 

 7    people -- even more so -- with a gaming 

 8    addiction.  

 9                 Madam President, I thank you so 

10    much, and I'll be voting yes on the bill.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

12    Addabbo to be recorded in the affirmative.

13                 Senator Krueger to explain her vote.

14                 SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you so 

15    much, Madam President.  

16                 I am voting yes for this bill, but I 

17    appreciate the debate and my colleague's 

18    presentation because it highlights for me exactly 

19    why I don't support online gaming of any sort -- 

20    the illegal we are trying to outlaw tonight or 

21    hopefully never the legal.  Because the 

22    discussions between my colleagues back and forth 

23    highlight how easily it is to figure out how to 

24    exploit people who can so easily get hooked into 

25    gambling, particularly when it's on a phone in 


                                                               5756

 1    front of them with one credit card entry at one 

 2    point in their lives.  

 3                 So thank you, Senator, for laying 

 4    out why we need this bill, and for hopefully 

 5    educating us to think about why we shouldn't be 

 6    allowing any of this to happen legally or 

 7    illegally in our state.  

 8                 But I vote yes.  Thank you.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

10    Krueger to be recorded in the affirmative.

11                 Announce the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13    Calendar 567, voting in the negative are 

14    Senators O'Mara and Ortt.

15                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 2.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

17    is passed.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    1041, Assembly Bill Number 4723, by 

20    Assemblymember McDonald, an act to amend the 

21    State Finance Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

23    Martins, why do you rise? 

24                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Madam President, 

25    I was hoping that the sponsor would yield for a 


                                                               5757

 1    few questions.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Will the 

 3    sponsor yield?  Senator Cooney, do you yield?  

 4                 SENATOR COONEY:   Madam President, 

 5    yes.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 7    Senator yields.

 8                 Could we have some quiet in the 

 9    chamber?  Thank you.

10                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

11    Senator.

12                 Although I appreciate the purpose of 

13    the bill before us, Madam President, in that it 

14    would go a long way towards addressing a serious 

15    concern, an environmental concern with regard to 

16    disposing of surplus property of New York State, 

17    I'm concerned and troubled by the fact that the 

18    bill appears to run counter to the 

19    State Constitution, specifically Article VII, 

20    Section 8, which prohibits gifts, prohibits the 

21    state from taking property of the state and 

22    giving it to any entity, whether it's a 

23    not-for-profit or for-profit or individual.  

24                 There's a clear prohibition in 

25    Article VII, Section 8, of the 


                                                               5758

 1    State Constitution.  And I would just ask the 

 2    sponsor how we would reconcile the bill to the 

 3    clear prohibition in the State Constitution.

 4                 SENATOR COONEY:   Through you, 

 5    Madam President, I appreciate the question by 

 6    Senator Martins.  

 7                 I think the way to look at this 

 8    legislation is that it provides an additional 

 9    option, not a mandate.  So what this legislation 

10    would do is it would give a state agency the 

11    ability to sell surplus furniture or items at 

12    auction, to have it be sold at the state store in 

13    Senator Fahy's district over at the Harriman 

14    Campus, or now, if this bill passes, to donate 

15    this surplus furniture or items to a registered 

16    501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization in our 

17    state.  

18                 How it probably addresses the 

19    gifting clause that you're referring to, Senator, 

20    is that we recognize that we already do donations 

21    and grants through the state government to 

22    not-for-profits, recognizing that there is a 

23    public purpose for that grant from time to time 

24    that we make.  

25                 This just allows these items not to 


                                                               5759

 1    have to be transferred in a way that results in 

 2    either not having a financial benefit to the 

 3    state, or unfortunately in cases going into the 

 4    landfill, or costing taxpayer dollars by having 

 5    them sit in storage facilities.  

 6                 So we don't believe that this would 

 7    violate any gifting because it's not going to an 

 8    individual, rather going to a not-for-profit 

 9    organization.

10                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Through you, 

11    Madam President, if the sponsor would continue to 

12    yield.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

14    continue to yield?

15                 SENATOR COONEY:   Yes.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

17    sponsor yields.

18                 SENATOR MARTINS:   If you don't 

19    mind, why don't we perhaps walk through the 

20    process as you see it, through your bill, as to 

21    how this surplus material would be disposed of?  

22                 Would it first be -- 

23    Madam President, through you -- would it first be 

24    put up for sale?

25                 SENATOR COONEY:   Under -- through 


                                                               5760

 1    you, Madam President.  The process of which the 

 2    surplus property can be disposed of is that it 

 3    has to go through a number of steps.  

 4                 First, the state agency would have 

 5    to offer it to other state agencies to see if 

 6    there was a need.  

 7                 Second, there would be the ability 

 8    for an evaluation of the property, the surplus 

 9    property.  Then they'd have the ability to either 

10    auction it and then, in this case, if they chose 

11    not to auction it, they could donate it directly 

12    to a not-for-profit that has all of its filings 

13    in good standing with the state.

14                 I will say that this is not 

15    something that is too out of line with what we 

16    see other governmental organizations do.  We 

17    know, for example, the federal government has a 

18    similar process in disposing of their surplus 

19    property through the GSA.  

20                 In our case, obviously in New York, 

21    a little bit different.  We would rely on OGS to 

22    help facilitate this process.

23                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

24    Madam President.  Through you, if the sponsor 

25    would continue to yield.


                                                               5761

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

 2    continue to yield?

 3                 SENATOR COONEY:   Absolutely.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 5    sponsor yields.

 6                 SENATOR MARTINS:   But I'm sure you 

 7    would agree that there's one obstacle here in 

 8    New York that doesn't exist in the U.S. 

 9    government or in federal considerations, which is 

10    the State Constitution itself.  Right?

11                 SENATOR COONEY:   Is that a 

12    question?

13                 SENATOR MARTINS:   It is.

14                 SENATOR COONEY:   I understand that 

15    we'd have jurisdiction underneath the New York 

16    State Constitution, yes.

17                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Through you, 

18    Madam President, if the sponsor would continue to 

19    yield.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

21    continue to yield?

22                 SENATOR COONEY:   Yes.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

24    Senator yields.

25                 SENATOR MARTINS:   I believe the 


                                                               5762

 1    bill would also allow each state agency, once 

 2    there's a determination as to the value of a 

 3    particular piece of equipment or piece of 

 4    property, to have the discretion to dispose of it 

 5    if they believe that the value of that property 

 6    is less than the amount that was set.

 7                 That would be done by the state 

 8    agency itself, isn't that right?

 9                 SENATOR COONEY:   Through you, 

10    Madam President, that is correct.

11                 SENATOR MARTINS:   So before -- 

12    through you, Madam President, if the sponsor 

13    would continue to yield.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

15    continue to yield?

16                 SENATOR COONEY:   Yes.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

18    Senator yields.

19                 SENATOR MARTINS:   So before it's 

20    put up for sale, before it's determined whether 

21    or not someone wants to buy it at auction, if 

22    there's a value placed on that piece of 

23    equipment, on that furniture or whatnot, or that 

24    piece of property, that a department head, an 

25    agency head can on their own, without trying to 


                                                               5763

 1    sell it, without trying to do anything else, can 

 2    actually donate it to a not-for-profit agency.

 3                 SENATOR COONEY:   Through you, 

 4    Madam President.  So just from a process 

 5    standpoint, the valuation that you just referred 

 6    to, Senator Martins, would take place after 

 7    they've tried to sell this property through 

 8    surplus property already.  

 9                 So in terms of procedure, that 

10    valuation would come secondarily.

11                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Through you, 

12    Madam President, if the sponsor would continue to 

13    yield.  Just a few more questions.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

15    continue to yield?

16                 SENATOR COONEY:   Yes.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

18    Senator yields.  

19                 SENATOR MARTINS:   So in every 

20    instance, Senator, if I understand correctly, 

21    there's going to be an attempt to sell the 

22    property, hand it off to another agency, sell the 

23    property and to use it or receive some benefit 

24    back.  And only after there is no takers and 

25    nobody offers anything for this property, in the 


                                                               5764

 1    ultimate instance that it isn't sold at auction, 

 2    not even for anything, that the agency would then 

 3    have the discretion, and only under those 

 4    circumstances, to hand it off to a 

 5    not-for-profit.

 6                 SENATOR COONEY:   I think we're 

 7    almost there, Senator Martins.  

 8                 So after the valuation takes place, 

 9    then there's a series of options that the state 

10    agency would have to dispose of said property.  

11    So it wouldn't be that they have to do Option 1, 

12    Option 2, Option 3 first.  Offer it to a state 

13    agency, sell it at auction.  They could choose 

14    which methodology they have to dispose of it.  

15    This would allow the addition of donating it to a 

16    not-for-profit organization.  In those options of 

17    disposal of surplus property.

18                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Through you, 

19    Madam President, if the sponsor would continue to 

20    yield.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

22    continue to yield?

23                 SENATOR COONEY:   Yes.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

25    Senator yields.  


                                                               5765

 1                 SENATOR MARTINS:   And so, Senator, 

 2    would that decision be made at the agency level 

 3    and they decide whether or not it's worth 

 4    transferring it, selling it, or giving it to 

 5    somebody?

 6                 SENATOR COONEY:   That's correct.

 7                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Through you, 

 8    Madam President, if the sponsor would continue to 

 9    yield.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Will you 

11    continue to yield?

12                 SENATOR COONEY:   Yes.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

14    sponsor yields.

15                 SENATOR MARTINS:   And would they be 

16    able to give it to any 501(c)(3) registered and 

17    in good standing in New York State?

18                 SENATOR COONEY:   Yes.

19                 So for example, Senator Martins, if 

20    SUNY Albany or SUNY Old Westbury wanted to 

21    dispose of a series of desks, and they have gone 

22    through that process and they wanted to donate it 

23    to Habitat for Humanity in Nassau County, then 

24    they would be able to do that.  And as long as 

25    Habitat for Humanity had had all their files made 


                                                               5766

 1    on time and been registered in good standing with 

 2    the Charities Bureau of New York State, they 

 3    could make that transfer.

 4                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you.  

 5                 Madam President, on the bill.

 6                 Senator Cooney, thank you very much  

 7    for your answers.  I appreciate it.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 9    Martins on the bill.

10                 SENATOR MARTINS:   You know, I think 

11    we're all sympathetic to the bill.  We all 

12    understand what we're trying to do here.  

13                 Unfortunately -- or fortunately, 

14    Madam President -- it just can't be.  The 

15    State Constitution doesn't distinguish between 

16    not-for-profits and for-profits or individuals.  

17    Any private entity is prohibited, or the state is 

18    prohibited from giving any asset of the state -- 

19    which belongs, by the way, to each and every 

20    person in the state.  That's why you can't just 

21    give it away.  You could sell it away, but you 

22    can't just give it away.  And there's a state 

23    constitutional prohibition there for a reason.  

24                 What's troubling here is that on top 

25    of that, the discretion to actually give that 


                                                               5767

 1    away is given to a state agency, where they get 

 2    to decide not only on the value, but then get to 

 3    determine whether or not the value is 

 4    sufficiently low, whatever that means, in their 

 5    discretion, so that they can just hand it off to 

 6    a 501(c)(3).  

 7                 Now, there are 501(c)(3)s and there 

 8    are 501(c)(3)s.  Okay?  Everyone has their 

 9    favorite charity.  We each donate to whomever we 

10    want.  But that should not be the discretion or 

11    criteria that determines how we dispose of 

12    valuable assets of the state.  So my concern, 

13    Madam President, is, frankly, it's 

14    unconstitutional.  

15                 Now, the Constitution does say that 

16    there are ways of being able to address this.  

17    It's in the Constitution itself, where it says 

18    that if you're going to give it, give it to a 

19    political subdivision directly, give it to an 

20    organization that deals with certain criteria and 

21    certain types of organizations.  It's actually in 

22    the Constitution.

23                 So if we follow the Constitution and 

24    we allow for these to go to specific groups -- 

25    most likely educational institutions, local 


                                                               5768

 1    governments -- so that they continue to have a 

 2    public purpose and use, that to me would make 

 3    sense.  

 4                 But that's not what this bill does.  

 5    And to the extent that it runs counter to the 

 6    very language in the State Constitution, 

 7    Madam President, I can't support it.  I support 

 8    the concept and the idea that we don't want more 

 9    of our state resources ending up in landfills, 

10    but this is not the way to do it.  

11                 And so again, I want to thank the 

12    sponsor for the bill and for his effort here.  

13    But unfortunately, it runs counter to our 

14    State Constitution, so I'll be voting no.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

16    Senator Martins.

17                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

18    to be heard?  

19                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

20    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

21                 Read the last section.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23    act shall take effect immediately.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

25    roll.


                                                               5769

 1                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 3    Cooney to explain his vote.

 4                 SENATOR COONEY:   Thank you, 

 5    Madam President.  

 6                 And I want to thank Senator Martins 

 7    for raising concerns around gifting.  And 

 8    certainly we want to be mindful of our state 

 9    constitutional responsibilities.  

10                 There's been some recent case law in 

11    the Third Department that I was just reviewing 

12    that talked about the benefit of a public 

13    purpose.  And so the reason why there's been so 

14    much support for this legislation from groups 

15    like Habitat for Humanity, Goodwill of the 

16    Finger Lakes, where I represent, organizations 

17    across the state who are saying this could really 

18    serve a public need.  

19                 At a time when so many organizations 

20    are looking for additional resources, when 

21    there's so much waste happening, when the state 

22    is realigning its facilities and has lots of new 

23    surplus opportunities to make these donations, 

24    this could really serve a public purpose in this 

25    moment, in this country, in this state.  


                                                               5770

 1                 So I think adding this additional 

 2    option provides that flexibility for the State of 

 3    New York to make sure that we are additive at 

 4    helping communities in their time of need.  And 

 5    of course I support this legislation.  

 6                 I vote aye, Madam President.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 8    Cooney to be recorded in the affirmative.

 9                 Senator Gounardes to explain his 

10    vote.

11                 SENATOR GOUNARDES:   Thank you, 

12    Madam President.  

13                 I just want to thank Senator Cooney 

14    and Senator Martins for giving me a topic to 

15    research for next year's Constitution Day speech.  

16                 (Laughter.)

17                 SENATOR GOUNARDES:   I vote aye.

18                 (Laughter; applause.)

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

20    Gounardes, how do you vote?

21                 SENATOR GOUNARDES:   I vote aye.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

23    Gounardes to be recorded in the affirmative.

24                 Announce the results.  

25                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 


                                                               5771

 1    Calendar 1041, voting in the negative are 

 2    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 3    Chan, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 4    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

 5    Weber and Weik.

 6                 Ayes, 42.  Nays, 17.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

 8    is passed.

 9                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10    1375, Assembly Bill Number 4997, by 

11    Assemblymember Glick, an act to amend the 

12    Environmental Conservation Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

14    Ashby, why do you rise?

15                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Will the sponsor 

16    yield?  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   I believe 

18    that Senator Gianaris is going to be the sponsor 

19    for this evening.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I'm not the 

21    sponsor, but I will yield.  

22                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Through you, 

23    Madam President.  Would you agree that the 

24    production of cutting-edge vaccines and medical 

25    therapies, including the COVID-19 vaccine, should 


                                                               5772

 1    be a priority for policymakers?

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.  Would you?

 3                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Yes.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Excellent.

 5                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Are you aware that 

 6    the blood of the horseshoe crab is used to 

 7    develop those things?  

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I'm aware that 

 9    it's used for biomedical purposes.

10                 SENATOR ASHBY:   If you are aware, 

11    then why does this bill specifically ban 

12    biomedical harvesting?

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   There are 

14    currently no DEC permits for biomedical 

15    harvesting.  So it is not something that is 

16    prevalent currently.

17                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Why not a 

18    moratorium --

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Excuse me, 

20    Senator Ashby -- 

21                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Through you, 

22    Madam President, will the sponsor yield?  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Will the 

24    sponsor yield?

25                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes.


                                                               5773

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

 2    sponsor yields.

 3                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Why not a 

 4    moratorium or a numerical limit?

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

 6    it's not what the sponsor has put in this 

 7    legislation.  

 8                 (Laughter.)

 9                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Will the sponsor 

10    yield? 

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Will the 

12    sponsor yield? 

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I'm not the 

14    sponsor, but I will yield.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Yes, 

16    sorry.  Senator Gianaris yields.

17                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Yes, I realize 

18    that.  I'm asking why not.  

19                 Why not, if it's -- if we're both in 

20    support of this, and I would think the sponsor is 

21    as well, why not a carveout for biomedical 

22    harvesting?  

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Well, I think 

24    part of the problem is that, as opposed to other 

25    Mid-Atlantic states, the population of the 


                                                               5774

 1    horseshoe crab is in more dramatic decline in 

 2    New York.  And there are an ample supply of 

 3    horseshoe crabs in other states, particularly in 

 4    Delaware, that can be harvested for biomedical 

 5    purposes.  

 6                 But in New York I believe we're the 

 7    only state in the commission -- that's subject to 

 8    the Atlantic States Commission that has been 

 9    rated "poor" for its efforts to control the 

10    excessive harvesting of horseshoe crabs.  And so 

11    we need to take more dramatic measures perhaps 

12    than others have taken to preserve the 

13    population.

14                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Will the sponsor 

15    yield?

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Do you 

17    continue to yield,  Senator Gianaris?  

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Yes, I will.

19                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Through you, 

20    Madam President, I understand that there's a 

21    scientific carveout, but not a biomedical one.  

22    Can you explain the difference?

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   It's my 

24    understanding that the amount of horseshoe crabs 

25    that might be utilized for scientific purposes is 


                                                               5775

 1    minuscule compared to what would be allowed if 

 2    you expanded it to the other uses.

 3                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Will the sponsor 

 4    yield?

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Will you 

 6    continue to yield?  

 7                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I'm not the 

 8    sponsor, but -- 

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   I 

10    understand.

11                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   -- I will yield.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

13    Gianaris is definitely not the sponsor.  

14                 (Laughter.)

15                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Will 

16    Senator Gianaris yield?

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

18    Gianaris, do you yield?

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I will yield.  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

21    Senator yields.

22                 SENATOR ASHBY:   It's my 

23    understanding that it takes three to five years 

24    to develop a synthetic that would be the 

25    equivalent to what is found in the blood of 


                                                               5776

 1    horseshoe crabs.  

 2                 Are you concerned at all, sponsor or 

 3    not, that we would be delaying or potentially 

 4    impeding scientific development during that time 

 5    that could drastically affect the lives of people 

 6    in the United States?

 7                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   No, I am not 

 8    concerned about that.

 9                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Will 

10    Senator Gianaris yield?

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Will 

12    Senator Gianaris yield?

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I will yield.    

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The 

15    Senator yields.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I do.

17                 SENATOR ASHBY:   Being that this is 

18    the only enzyme capable for testing and 

19    developing for vaccines that we are both in favor 

20    of, you flatly are not concerned in this -- with 

21    this at all?  

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   No, I'm not 

23    concerned about your question because I don't 

24    think it's a problem when the horseshoe crabs in 

25    the surrounding states are abundantly available 


                                                               5777

 1    for that purpose.

 2                 SENATOR ASHBY:   On the bill.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 4    Ashby on the bill.

 5                 SENATOR ASHBY:   So it seems as 

 6    though, sponsor or not, Senator Gianaris isn't 

 7    concerned with New York's ability to contribute 

 8    to the development, production of lifesaving 

 9    vaccines and medical production.  It's a bit 

10    surprising.  

11                 But I do think that this 

12    legislation, we hear it often, is well-intended.  

13    It is short-sighted.  We're perfectly capable 

14    here of making carveouts for scientific purposes, 

15    but why not for biomedical purposes that we 

16    apparently all agree on?  

17                 Thank you, Madam President.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Thank you, 

19    Senator Ashby.

20                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

21    to be heard?

22                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

23    closed.  The Secretary will ring the bell.

24                 Read the last section.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               5778

 1    act shall take effect immediately.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Call the 

 3    roll.

 4                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

 6    Ryan to explain his vote.

 7                 SENATOR SEAN RYAN:   Senator 

 8    Gianaris, even though you're not the sponsor of 

 9    this legislation, it's a very good legislation.  

10                 The vast majority of horseshoe crabs 

11    harvested in New York State are harvested to be 

12    used in fish traps.  They chop them up and they 

13    put them in fish traps.  

14                 There's alternatives to that.  The 

15    horseshoe crab is 445 million years old.  It 

16    predates the dinosaur.  It has unique blue blood 

17    with a clotting agent.  

18                 There are also alternatives to using 

19    that, but other states and other medical 

20    facilities know how to draw blood from the 

21    horseshoe crabs without killing them.  

22                 So in New York State most horseshoe 

23    crabs that are killed are killed for bait 

24    purposes.  And nothing is more disturbing than 

25    going out to the beach at nighttime, seeing 


                                                               5779

 1    somebody pull up with a pickup truck and just 

 2    shovel horseshoe crabs into the back.

 3                 But I'll tell you why else, 

 4    Madam President, this is a good bill.  It's 

 5    because of a bird called the red knot.  Every 

 6    year a bird called the red knot leaves 

 7    Tierra del Fuego in South America, and it comes 

 8    all the way up to New York and New Jersey.  

 9                 Now, it started doing that trip well 

10    before New York and New Jersey look like they do 

11    now.  But they have an evolutionary time clock.  

12    They come up the coast at the same time the 

13    horseshoe crabs are migrating, so they can eat 

14    their eggs.  It's their only food source when 

15    they land in the Delaware Bay, New York and 

16    New Jersey.  And then they continue on even 

17    farther.  

18                 But horseshoe crabs in New York and 

19    New Jersey are plummeting, and they're plummeting 

20    simply because we use them as bait.

21                 So I proudly cast my vote in favor 

22    of the bill that is not Mike Gianaris's, but he 

23    did a very good arguing it anyways.  I vote aye.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Senator 

25    Ryan to be recorded in the affirmative.


                                                               5780

 1                 (Laughter, scattered applause.)

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   Announce 

 3    the results.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 5    Calendar 1375, voting in the negative are 

 6    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

 7    Chan, Gallivan, Griffo, Helming, O'Mara, Ortt, 

 8    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Skoufis, Stec, Tedisco 

 9    and Walczyk.

10                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 16.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   The bill 

12    is passed.

13                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

14    reading of the controversial calendar.

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

16    Madam President.  

17                 I must note for my colleagues that 

18    on this final Wednesday of session I was 

19    disappointed we did not hear from Senator Walczyk 

20    all day.  

21                 (Laughter.)

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   But there's 

23    always tomorrow.  The Walczyk Thursday tradition 

24    can begin tomorrow.  

25                 Is there any further business at the 


                                                               5781

 1    desk?

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   There is 

 3    no further business at the desk.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to adjourn 

 5    until tomorrow, Thursday, June 12th, at 

 6    10:00 a.m.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT MAYER:   On motion, 

 8    the Senate stands adjourned until Thursday, 

 9    June 12th, at 10:00 a.m.

10                 (Whereupon, at 10:28 p.m., the 

11    Senate adjourned.)

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