Regular Session - April 22, 2026

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 1                NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4               THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                   April 22, 2026

11                     11:32 a.m.

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14                   REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR ROXANNE J. PERSAUD, Acting President

19  ALEJANDRA N. PAULINO, ESQ., Secretary

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 1                P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 3    Senate will come to order.  

 4                 I ask everyone to please rise and 

 5    recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 6                 (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 7    the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.) 

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   In the 

 9    absence of clergy, let us bow our heads in a 

10    moment of silent reflection or prayer.  

11                 (Whereupon, the assemblage respected 

12    a moment of silence.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Reading 

14    of the Journal.  

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Tuesday, 

16    April 21, 2026, the Senate met pursuant to 

17    adjournment.  The Journal of Monday, April 20, 

18    2026, was read and approved.  On motion, the 

19    Senate adjourned.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Without 

21    objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

22                 Presentation of petitions.

23                 Messages from the Assembly.

24                 The Secretary will read.  

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator Skoufis 


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 1    moves to discharge, from the Committee on 

 2    Housing, Construction and Community Development, 

 3    Assembly Bill Number 3126B and substitute it for 

 4    the identical Senate Bill 6368B, Third Reading 

 5    Calendar 236.

 6                 Senator Brisport moves to discharge, 

 7    from the Committee on Judiciary, Assembly Bill 

 8    Number 8305 and substitute it for the identical 

 9    Senate Bill 8372, Third Reading Calendar 675.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   So 

11    ordered.  

12                 Messages from the Governor.

13                 Reports of standing committees.  

14                 Reports of select committees.

15                 Communications and reports from 

16    state officers.

17                 Motions and resolutions.

18                 Senator Gianaris.

19                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Good morning, 

20    Madam President.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Good 

22    morning.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   There will be an 

24    immediate meeting of the Rules Committee in 

25    Room 332.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There 

 2    will be an immediate meeting of the 

 3    Rules Committee in Room 332.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   The Senate 

 5    stands at ease.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 7    Senate stands at ease.

 8                 (Whereupon, the Senate stood at ease 

 9    at 11:33 a.m.)

10                 (Whereupon, the Senate reconvened at 

11    11:42 a.m.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

13    Senate will return to order.

14                 Senator Gianaris.

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

16    there's a report of the Rules Committee at the 

17    desk.  Please take that up.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

19    Secretary will read.  

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Senator  

21    Stewart-Cousins, from the Committee on Rules, 

22    reports the following bill:  Senate Print 9999, 

23    by Senator Serrano, an act making appropriations 

24    for the support of government.  

25                 The bill reports direct to third 


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 1    reading.

 2                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Move to accept 

 3    the report of the Rules Committee.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   All 

 5    those in favor of accepting the Rules Committee 

 6    report please signify by saying aye.

 7                 (Response of "Aye.")

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Opposed, 

 9    nay.

10                 (No response.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

12    report of the Rules Committee is accepted.

13                 Senator Gianaris.

14                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please take up 

15    the supplemental calendar.  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

17    Secretary will read.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    822, Senate Print 9999, by Senator Serrano, an 

20    act making appropriations for the support of 

21    government.

22                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there a 

23    message of necessity and appropriation at the 

24    desk?  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 


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 1    a message of necessity and appropriation at the 

 2    desk.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to accept 

 4    the message.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   All 

 6    those in favor of accepting the message please 

 7    signify by saying aye.

 8                 (Response of "Aye.")

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Opposed, 

10    nay.

11                 (Response of "Nay.")

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

13    message is accepted, and the bill is before the 

14    house.

15                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

17    is laid aside.

18                 That completes the reading of the 

19    supplemental calendar.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please go to the 

21    reading of the controversial supplemental 

22    calendar.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

24    Secretary will ring the bell.

25                 The Secretary will read.


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 1                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2    822, Senate Print 9999, by Senator Serrano, an 

 3    act making appropriations for the support of 

 4    government.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 6    O'Mara, why do you rise?

 7                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

 8    Madam President.  

 9                 Will the sponsor yield for some 

10    questions?  

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

12    sponsor yield?  

13                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Yes.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

15    Senator yields.

16                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

17    Senator.  

18                 Here we are, April 22nd, now more 

19    than three weeks late on this budget, and we're 

20    taking up our sixth extender of the season.  This 

21    extender, I believe, takes us into Monday.  

22                 What is this extender -- what are we 

23    extending with this to get us to Monday?  And how 

24    much new spending is there?

25                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Through you, 


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 1    Madam President.  This extender allows for the 

 2    continuation of our state government short of a 

 3    fully enacted budget.  

 4                 You're correct, this is our sixth 

 5    extender.  It takes us through Monday, 

 6    April 27th.  The total amount in this extender is 

 7    $12.7 billion, which includes an additional 

 8    69 million in new spending.

 9                 And it covers things like general 

10    state charges, payments to the Metropolitan 

11    Commuter Transportation Mobility Tax.  Department 

12    of Health, our WIC and EPIC programs, which are 

13    so vital.  Department of Labor payments.  Office 

14    of People with Disability payments.  And 

15    Department of Veterans' Services and Homeless 

16    Veterans Housing payments.

17                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

18    Senator.  

19                 Madam President, if the Senator will 

20    continue to yield.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

22    sponsor yield? 

23                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Yes.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

25    sponsor yields.  


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 1                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you.

 2                 Senator, are we any closer to a 

 3    final budget today than we were Monday?  

 4                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Through you, 

 5    Madam President.  Negotiations are still ongoing.  

 6                 As I mentioned in our previous 

 7    discussion on Monday, that I think things are 

 8    moving in the right direction.  There is 

 9    certainly a sense of urgency involved, and all 

10    parties are very much interested in closing this 

11    down.

12                 But again, as I said, you know, 

13    budgets are about priorities.  And while it is 

14    important to have things done on time, and I'm 

15    all about deadlines and so on, it's also I think 

16    more important to have a good budget, a budget 

17    that reflects the needs of all New Yorkers -- 

18    issues involved with economic development, 

19    funding for our parks, for arts and culture, for 

20    so many different things.  

21                 It's really important that we have a 

22    very good budget.  And we have been moving, I 

23    think, steadily towards an agreement, and 

24    hopefully we will have that done.

25                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 


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 1    Senator.

 2                 Madam President, if the Senator will 

 3    continue to yield.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 5    Senator yield?  

 6                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Yes.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 8    Senator yields.

 9                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Senator, we have a 

10    joint budget conference committee set up that 

11    we're supposed to follow in the budget process.  

12    Are there any joint conference committees 

13    scheduled?

14                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Through you, 

15    Madam President, no.

16                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Through you, 

17    Madam President, if the Senator will continue to 

18    yield.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

20    sponsor yield? 

21                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Yes.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

23    Senator yields.  

24                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Have any table 

25    targets been set for the various budget 


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 1    subcommittees to have something to work with on 

 2    maybe not the major items of the budget?  

 3                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Through you, 

 4    Madam President, no.

 5                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Madam President, 

 6    will the Senator continue to yield.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

 8    Senator yield? 

 9                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Yes.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

11    Senator yields.

12                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Senator, on the 

13    major issues that at least we've been reading 

14    about in the news, since we really get no 

15    information here, the issues holding it up -- 

16    modifications to the CLCPA, auto insurance 

17    reform, SEQR process, New York for All, and the 

18    ever present pressure to increase taxes -- are 

19    any of those major issues solidified in agreement 

20    yet?

21                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Through you, 

22    Madam President.  As I mentioned before, there 

23    are ongoing discussions on these and many other 

24    issues involved in this budget.  It is obviously 

25    a very complicated task.  


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 1                 But the bill before us does not 

 2    contain any of those policy issues.  The bill 

 3    before us is an extender to ensure the operation 

 4    of state government, to provide for some very 

 5    basic funding to ensure that we meet our needs 

 6    and obligations as a state.  But the policy 

 7    issues that we read about and that we hear about, 

 8    those are not before us at this moment.

 9                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Thank you, 

10    Senator.

11                 Madam President, will the Senator 

12    continue to yield.  

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

14    Senator yield?

15                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Yes.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

17    Senator yields.

18                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Senator, this 

19    morning I saw on the Empire Reports news website, 

20    attributed to the Governor, that she thought we 

21    would have a budget on May 19th.  

22                 There was really no -- no -- 

23    attribution to where that came from.  Are you 

24    aware of the Governor having taken this position 

25    that we're still a month away from the budget?


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 1                 SENATOR SERRANO:   Through you, 

 2    Madam President.  No, I was not aware of that.  I 

 3    have no additional information on that.

 4                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Okay, thank you.

 5                 Madam President, on the bill.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 7    O'Mara on the bill.

 8                 SENATOR O'MARA:   Here we are, 

 9    22 days late on the budget for the fifth year in 

10    a row.  It's a concerning process.  I really see 

11    or feel no sense of urgency on getting this 

12    budget wrapped up as close to the constitutional 

13    required deadline of April 1st to get a budget 

14    done.  

15                 You know, we continue to just extend 

16    spending, although the Conservative Party of the 

17    State of New York, its chairman Gerry Kassar has 

18    expressed his gratitude to us because we're not 

19    spending any more and there's really no 

20    likelihood or expectation that this budget is 

21    going to spend less than last year overall or 

22    probably in any specific category at all.  

23    Spending will be greater.  

24                 So the Conservative Party at least 

25    feels, you know, we're a month late, we're a 


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 1    month less of extra spending in the state.

 2                 But we really do need to get this 

 3    budget done.  As I talked about earlier in the 

 4    week, our school budgets -- our school districts 

 5    have to come out with their budgets to put to the 

 6    voters in the middle of May.  The time for 

 7    putting those together is rapidly approaching.  

 8                 And that's just a big problem for 

 9    our districts, and it will only result in perhaps 

10    unnecessary property tax increases, not knowing 

11    what the state aid is going to be for these 

12    districts.

13                 So we really need to get moving 

14    here.  And if the Governor is really saying that 

15    it's going to be May 19th, you know, that's 

16    another month away.  And we're getting no 

17    information here from the Majority on where any 

18    of these major issues, the sticking points, where 

19    they stand, what's being proposed, whether 

20    there's any language, whether there's any 

21    resolution on anything.  

22                 And that's just -- it's concerning.  

23    So I just implore the majorities and the Governor 

24    to -- let's get together and nail this thing out 

25    and do what we're supposed to do, our most 


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 1    important job of the year as elected 

 2    representatives in the State Legislature, to get 

 3    this budget done.

 4                 Thank you, Madam President.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 6    you, Senator.  

 7                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

 8    to be heard?

 9                 Seeing and hearing none, debate is 

10    closed.

11                 The Secretary will ring the bell.

12                 Read the last section.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 15.  This 

14    act shall take effect immediately.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:  Senator 

19    Gianaris.

20                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

21    we've agreed to restore this bill to the 

22    noncontroversial calendar.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   On 

24    consent, the bill is restored to the 

25    noncontroversial calendar.


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 1                 Call the roll.

 2                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 4    the results.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 6    Calendar Number 822, voting in the negative:  

 7    Senator Weik.

 8                 Ayes, 57.  Nays, 1.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

12    reading of the controversial calendar.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Okay, let's move 

14    back to motions and resolutions.

15                 We will begin with previously 

16    adopted Resolution 1699, by Senators Sepúlveda 

17    and Stavisky.  Please read that resolution's 

18    title and call on Senator Stavisky.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    Secretary will read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1699, 

22    by Senator Sepúlveda, memorializing 

23    Governor Kathy Hochul to proclaim April 14, 2026, 

24    as Bangla New Year Day in the State of New York.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 


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 1    Stavisky on the resolution.

 2                 SENATOR STAVISKY:   Yes, thank you, 

 3    Madam President.  

 4                 And thank you to the leader and to 

 5    Senator Gianaris for bringing this resolution up 

 6    today.

 7                 As was said, April 12th is the 

 8    New Year for the people from Bangladesh.  And we 

 9    have a long history of folks from Bangladesh, 

10    starting in the late 19th century, coming to the 

11    United States, particularly to New York City, and 

12    to Queens County in particular.  In fact, the 

13    number that is cited is 10,000 people per year.  

14                 And when they arrive in our 

15    communities, they very quickly become leaders in 

16    both the business community and education, in 

17    technology, in healthcare, in arts and 

18    literature, et cetera.

19                 And they make an incredible 

20    contribution to not only the business, the 

21    economy, but also the cultural life of living in 

22    New York City's communities.

23                 And in fact I was interested to 

24    learn that Bangla is the sixth-most-spoken 

25    language in the world.  And that is an incredible 


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 1    number of people who have had a very significant 

 2    impact on life in the United States.

 3                 In 2023, with redistricting, my 

 4    lines changed, and I represent many people from 

 5    Bangladesh.  And I don't want to leave out a 

 6    community, but many live in Queens Village, in 

 7    Floral Park, in Hollis, et cetera.  

 8                 And they have made not only a 

 9    significant impact on the community in various 

10    areas, but I have found them to be so welcoming.  

11    And they have quickly become my friends.  We work 

12    together on many issues.  

13                 And when I mention this to my 

14    colleagues, they all shake their heads and say, 

15    "Yes!"  And that is a quality that is sorely 

16    needed.  

17                 So we're joined here today in the 

18    gallery by a number of leaders in the Bangladesh 

19    community, and the foundation -- I apologize -- 

20    Muktadhara, known as NRB, led by their leader and 

21    founder Saha, who I know is in contact with my 

22    office on many occasions, and we work on many 

23    issues together.

24                 So Madam President, I hope that you 

25    will extend a warm welcome to our guests and 


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 1    extend all of the privileges to which they are 

 2    entitled.

 3                 Thank you, Madam President.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 5    you, Senator.

 6                 To our guests from the Bangla 

 7    community, Happy Bangla New Year.  I welcome you 

 8    on behalf of the Senate.  We extend to you the 

 9    privileges and courtesies of this house.

10                 Please rise and be recognized.

11                 (Standing ovation.)

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

13    resolution was adopted on March 10th.

14                 Senator Gianaris.

15                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's continue 

16    with the theme and take up previously adopted 

17    Resolution 1846, by Senator Liu, read that 

18    resolution's title, and call on Senator Liu.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    Secretary will read.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1846, by 

22    Senator Liu, commending the Bangladesh-USA 

23    Chamber of Commerce and Industry and 

24    USA-Bangladesh Business Links upon the occasion 

25    of hosting the 5th Annual Bangladesh Remittance 


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 1    Fair.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 3    Liu on the resolution.

 4                 SENATOR LIU:   Thank you, 

 5    Madam President.  

 6                 I want to thank Senator Stavisky for 

 7    speaking on the preceding resolution and thank 

 8    Senator Sepúlveda for introducing that 

 9    resolution.  

10                 I also want to thank my colleagues 

11    for cosponsoring my resolution today 

12    commemorating the great work of the Bangladesh 

13    USA Chamber of Commerce and Industry, led also by 

14    our friend Bishawjit Saha, who I guess he's on 

15    this side, so I can't see him.  But -- what's up, 

16    Saha?

17                 Anyway, it's -- I think 

18    Senator Stavisky already explained a great deal 

19    of the immense contributions of the 

20    Bangladeshi-American community that we have 

21    thriving in Queens, but also in many other parts 

22    of the State of New York.  

23                 In addition to education, culture, 

24    history, and other aspects and strengths that the 

25    community brings to the great State of New York, 


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 1    they clearly bring a great deal of hard work 

 2    ethic as well, and success in small business and 

 3    enterprise.  And the Chamber of Commerce and 

 4    Industry is just one of the organizations, 

 5    perhaps the leading organization that brings 

 6    together the business community within the 

 7    Bangladeshi-American community.  

 8                 And they in turn not only provide 

 9    for  their families here in New York, but also 

10    contribute immensely to our economy.  And they in 

11    turn invest in the motherland, in Bangladesh, 

12    where they have remitted billions of dollars over 

13    the years.  So they in effect contribute to the 

14    global economy as well.  

15                 I want to thank them for all their 

16    hard work and contributions.  

17                 And, Madam President, I hope that 

18    you can recognize them as well.  

19                 Thank you.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

21    you, Senator.

22                 To the members of the Bangla Chamber 

23    of Commerce, I wish you continued success.  I 

24    welcome you on behalf of the Senate.  We extend 

25    to you the privileges and courtesies of this 


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 1    house.  

 2                 Please, again, rise and be 

 3    recognized.

 4                 (Standing ovation.)

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 6    resolution was adopted on April 21st.

 7                 Senator Gianaris.

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

 9    next up is previously adopted Resolution 1816, by 

10    Senator Stec.  Read that resolution's title and 

11    call on Senator Stec, please.  

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

13    Secretary will read.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1816, by 

15    Senator Stec, congratulating the Bolton Central 

16    School Boys Varsity Basketball Team and 

17    Coach Cody Kober upon the occasion of capturing 

18    the Class D State Championship.  

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

20    Stec on the resolution.

21                 SENATOR STEC:   Thank you, 

22    Madam President.  

23                 Again, it's always wonderful to 

24    greet guests here in the chamber, especially 

25    young guests that have reached a significant 


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 1    achievement as a sports team.  The Bolton Boys 

 2    Class D State Champions are here with us today.  

 3                 Bolton, for those of you that don't 

 4    know, is a small town on the west shore of 

 5    Lake George in Warren County, just up the road 

 6    from where I live.  

 7                 A lot of you know -- a lot of the 

 8    basketball fans here know that most of the time 

 9    the state championship games are played in 

10    Glens Falls.  Unfortunately, if there's one 

11    downside to this, it's that instead of getting to 

12    play in front of a hometown crowd, the 

13    championship happened this year in Binghamton.  

14                 But they amassed a 26-and-1 record 

15    for the year, very impressive.  And in the 

16    championship game they defeated the 

17    Sackets Harbor Patriots, 66 to 49, so it wasn't 

18    even close, another North Country team -- right, 

19    Senator Walczyk?

20                 SENATOR WALCZYK:   Okay.  

21                 (Laughter.)

22                 SENATOR STEC:   But anyways, it's 

23    great to have you all here, and your coaches.  A 

24    tremendous achievement.  

25                 In that championship game, one of 


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 1    their players, Jace Hubert, scored his career 

 2    1,000th point, and that's impressive.  But also 

 3    as impressive is that he joined two other 

 4    teammates that also scored a thousand for the 

 5    season, Jaxon Egloff and Liam Foy.  

 6                 So, you know, it just -- it takes a 

 7    team.  And certainly those individual accolades 

 8    are nice, but I know that those boys also 

 9    recognize that they didn't get there alone.  

10                 And just briefly, the team that's 

11    with us here today:  Lance Corey, Jaxon Egloff, 

12    Abram Figueroa, Liam Foy, Sam Foy, Jacob French, 

13    Will Hens, Jace Hubert, Andy Morehouse, 

14    Brendon Pagan, Jack Pfau, Teddy Phelps, 

15    John Roemer; Varsity Boys Coach Cody Kober; 

16    Assistant Coach Angel Figueroa; Athletic 

17    Director Mark Andrejkovics, as well as 

18    School Superintendent Chad Shippee.  

19                 Chad, don't worry about your budget, 

20    we're going to get those numbers to you soon so 

21    that you're ready for your budget vote.

22                 But to the boys, again, 

23    congratulations on the wonderful season.  This is 

24    something that you're going to remember for the 

25    rest of your lives:  How you got there, the work 


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 1    that you put in, the achievement, the thrill of 

 2    victory.  

 3                 I think the only defeat you had was 

 4    to the Syracuse Orangemen, I heard?  

 5                 (Laughter.)

 6                 SENATOR STEC:   So an impressive 

 7    season.  I'm just kidding about that part.

 8                 But it's thrilling to have you here 

 9    with us.  Thank you for bringing the team down.  

10                 And, Madam President, if you 

11    wouldn't mind, please give them the cordialities 

12    of the house and share with them your 

13    congratulations for a wonderful state 

14    championship season.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   To the 

16    Bolton Central Boys Basketball Team, 

17    congratulations.  And to the 1,000-point scorers, 

18    congratulations on that feat.  

19                 We welcome you on behalf of the 

20    Senate.  We extend to you the privileges and 

21    courtesies of this house.  And to your coaches, 

22    also, we welcome you.  

23                 Please stand and be recognized.

24                 (Standing ovation.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 


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 1    resolution was adopted on March 31st.  

 2                 Senator Gianaris.

 3                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Next up, 

 4    previously adopted Resolution 1395, by 

 5    Senator Persaud and Senator Harckham.  Please 

 6    read that resolution's title and call on 

 7    Senator Harckham.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 9    Secretary will read.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1395, by 

11    Senator Persaud, commemorating the 56th Annual 

12    Anniversary of Earth Day on April 22, 2026.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Happy 

14    Earth Day.  

15                 Senator Harckham on the resolution.

16                 SENATOR HARCKHAM:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  And thank you for sponsoring 

18    this important resolution.  

19                 Happy Earth Day, everyone.  I want 

20    to thank Madam Leader for bringing this 

21    resolution forward as well.

22                 You know, Earth Day is a day of 

23    renewal.  It's a community day.  We come together 

24    to express our shared and common humanity in 

25    projects to clean the environment.  Our local 


                                                               3631

 1    communities pick up trash, do plantings.  It's 

 2    really just a great educational, 

 3    community-bonding day.

 4                 And yet in this chamber we have, I 

 5    believe, a more serious responsibility on 

 6    Earth Day.  It's our job to set policies to 

 7    address the challenges we face, which are many.  

 8                 You know, we talk a lot about 

 9    emissions, we talk about PFAS, we talk about 

10    water quality and water infrastructure funding.  

11    We talk about emissions.  There are a lot of 

12    things that we address in this chamber and have 

13    done so in a bipartisan way on many of these 

14    issues.

15                 And yet serious issues still remain.  

16    The American Lung Association came out with a 

17    report yesterday, I believe.  And just after 

18    having taken a quick look at it, 2 million 

19    seniors and children in New York State live with 

20    unhealthy levels of air pollution.  Two million 

21    vulnerable seniors and children in the State of 

22    New York still live with dangerous air pollution 

23    on a daily basis.

24                 And yet while we should be making 

25    progress, here in New York we've canceled NY-Sun, 


                                                               3632

 1    we've put on hold the All-Electric Buildings Act, 

 2    we've put on hold the 100-foot rule, we've put on 

 3    hold cap-and-invest.  And now we're talking about 

 4    rolling back our signature climate law, the 

 5    CLCPA.  

 6                 And so I just want to remind folks 

 7    on this Earth Day that when we talk about these 

 8    issues -- the CLCPA is not an accounting 

 9    document.  It's a public health document.  And 

10    we're talking about these 2 million children and 

11    seniors who are breathing unhealthy air, and 

12    that's why we passed that law.

13                 And so there may be changes to that 

14    that come through the budget, I recognize that.  

15    But let us all be cognizant, please, that while 

16    we have made great progress in this great state 

17    and we have a lot of work that we can be proud of 

18    on a bipartisan basis, we have so much more work 

19    to be done.  

20                 And let's not take our focus off 

21    what this is about, and that's public health of 

22    our children.  

23                 I vote aye.  Thank you.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

25    you, Senator.


                                                               3633

 1                 Senator May on the resolution.

 2                 SENATOR MAY:   Thank you, 

 3    Madam President.  

 4                 All of us celebrated last week when 

 5    the crew of the Artemis came back from the moon 

 6    and we saw the beautiful photographs that they 

 7    took.  

 8                 And it kept reminding me of that 

 9    photograph from Apollo 17, in 1972, that's known 

10    as the Blue Marble, that beautiful image of the 

11    earth taken from space.  Which was a very, very 

12    powerful image at the time to remind people 

13    living on this planet that it is a small planet 

14    and what we do here in our communities, in our 

15    backyards, has an impact on people in every 

16    corner of our planet.

17                 Our atmosphere is a small 

18    atmosphere.  It is very thin.  And we absolutely 

19    depend on it for our survival, for agriculture, 

20    for any kind of stability that we have in terms 

21    of understanding what our climate -- what to 

22    expect from our climate and how to live our lives 

23    and produce food and have homes that are safe.  

24                 And so the work that we're doing to 

25    try to address the climate crisis is about 


                                                               3634

 1    everyone living on this earth and protecting that 

 2    tiny film of atmosphere that we all need to be 

 3    responsible for.  

 4                 I'm very proud of some of the work 

 5    we did yesterday here, and the work that we are 

 6    trying to do, and I join Senator Harckham in 

 7    saying we've got to keep working on this as if 

 8    our lives depended on it, because they do.

 9                 Thank you.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

11    you.

12                 Senator Martins on the resolution.

13                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

14    Madam President.  

15                 I want to thank the sponsor.  

16                 And I want to thank -- you know, I 

17    want to thank all the people back home who each 

18    and every year take the opportunity to do cleanup 

19    on Earth Day.  

20                 You know, as you all know, I 

21    represent a district that encompasses the 

22    North Shore of Nassau County from the Queens line 

23    to the Suffolk line.  So we have a concerted 

24    effort to not only maintain our communities, but 

25    specifically those coastal areas that are most 


                                                               3635

 1    impacted.  

 2                 You know, and it's really beautiful 

 3    to watch the community come together in that way.  

 4    And we should celebrate that in each of our 

 5    districts.  

 6                 And then in a broader sense, 

 7    Madam President, to the point that our colleague 

 8    just made, yes, we have a responsibility to the 

 9    environment.  I think we all agree to that.  We 

10    all do.  We all live on the same planet, we all 

11    breathe the same air, we're all impacted by what 

12    happens in other places.  

13                 There are no boundaries that limit 

14    our exposure to what happens somewhere else.

15                 But I also think we should celebrate 

16    the progress that this state has made over time, 

17    that our residents have made because of policies 

18    that have been in place for decades.  This isn't 

19    just a new process where we decided to begin to 

20    move in the right direction.  It's been taking 

21    place literally for decades, where we are at a 

22    point where our carbon footprint as a state is 

23    small.  It can be smaller, but it's small.  

24                 So let's celebrate the successes 

25    that we've had as a state, and then let's 


                                                               3636

 1    remember that we need to do more.  

 2                 My concern, Madam President, is that 

 3    we place artificial dates on things and then we 

 4    trigger certain consequences.

 5                 Now, I would say that our first 

 6    responsibility in this chamber to our residents 

 7    is to make sure that they're safe -- make sure 

 8    that they have heat in the winter, make sure that 

 9    they have access to energy and electricity, and 

10    that when we have natural disasters, storms, 

11    hurricanes, nor'easters, that they have access to 

12    energy so that they can keep themselves safe.

13                 So in the context of moving forward 

14    and continuing our efforts collaboratively, in a 

15    bipartisan way, to reach the end goal, let's not 

16    lose sight of what the real issue here is.  

17                 We will get there together as long 

18    as we don't set artificial dates that aren't 

19    going to be met for the purpose of virtue 

20    signaling that we are somehow doing something 

21    beyond what we are able to do.  Because our 

22    responsibility is, first and foremost, to make 

23    sure that those who are most vulnerable in our 

24    societies continue to have access to safety in 

25    their homes and for their families.


                                                               3637

 1                 So yeah, we're heading in that 

 2    direction, and that's the great news.  Now, I 

 3    just read a statistic that we are 15 percent 

 4    below our carbon footprint just over the last 

 5    30 years.  So we're getting there.  And we'll 

 6    continue to get there together.  But let's not 

 7    forget that it can't come at the expense of the 

 8    safety of our residents.  

 9                 Let's celebrate Earth Day.  

10    Congratulations.  Thank you to the sponsor.  

11                 I vote aye.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

13    you, Senator.

14                 Senator Sanders on the resolution.  

15                 SENATOR SANDERS:   Thank you, 

16    Madam President.  

17                 It is good that we take a day where 

18    we speak of the earth, our shared heritage, and 

19    we say the things that we need to ensure that 

20    we're making it work.

21                 We're celebrating at a unique time, 

22    of course, where we're -- some are talking about 

23    weakening the goals that we have set.  And it 

24    puts a strange place for us to be celebrating 

25    Earth Day.  


                                                               3638

 1                 I want to remind people that there 

 2    is no Plan B.  There is no Planet B.  If we don't 

 3    get this one right, all of these words that we've 

 4    used of -- that we'll be a little slower, we'll 

 5    get there, may ring very hollow to our children 

 6    and grandchildren when they say, Why didn't you 

 7    go with science?  Why didn't you accept that the 

 8    conditions are moving faster than you anticipate?  

 9                 I also want to take a moment to 

10    thank the people of my district who have come out 

11    and they did a beach cleanup.  From one end of 

12    the Rockaways to the other end, we did a beach 

13    cleanup.  I had every intention to be with these 

14    people.  I did not know that we would be 

15    struggling with the budget at that time.

16                 But they're doing excellent work 

17    with trying, at a local place, to ensure that we 

18    do our part for the earth.

19                 Thank you, Madam President.  

20                 And to all my fellow earthlings, 

21    bless you, Science.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

23    you, Senator.

24                 Senator Rolison on the resolution.

25                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Thank you, 


                                                               3639

 1    Madam President.  

 2                 I want to thank the sponsors for 

 3    this resolution.

 4                 I would say that every day is 

 5    Earth Day.  And that it started on April 22, 

 6    1970, Madam President.  And as we've heard in the 

 7    chamber today, and we'll continue to hear, we've 

 8    done a lot and there's a lot of work to be done 

 9    to help this earth.

10                 But I wanted to preface my comments 

11    today, Madam President, on all the great work 

12    that is done throughout this great state, but in 

13    the 39th District where there are Earth Day 

14    cleanups going on continually in the next week or 

15    so.

16                 And the fact that we're teaching our 

17    children about Earth Day and understanding what 

18    it means every day.

19                 And I'm a little bummed because I 

20    didn't bring the book that I bought for my 

21    granddaughter Alena in the gift shop, which says 

22    "My Very First Earth Day," which I'm going to 

23    give her this weekend so she can understand what 

24    Earth Day means at age 4.  

25                 And we have that responsibility to 


                                                               3640

 1    teach.  We also have the responsibility to 

 2    clean up and to do the things that make our 

 3    neighborhoods and communities look better, feel 

 4    better.  

 5                 And as Senator Harckham talked about 

 6    the statistics that we have in this state when it 

 7    comes to all the issues related to health, 

 8    especially in children -- and we have those 

 9    issues in Dutchess County with asthma rates.  It 

10    is something that we need to continue to focus 

11    on, because of the prevailing winds from the 

12    New York metropolitan area that affect Dutchess 

13    more than Ulster.  Most people don't know that.

14                 But again, getting back to the 

15    39th District -- and I'm just going to throw this 

16    out to my colleagues today -- we started 

17    something called the 7-minute cleanup.  I'm just 

18    going to leave with this.  You can clean a lot in 

19    7 minutes, and we've encouraged people to do that 

20    in front of their homes, in front of their 

21    stores.  Seven minutes can keep a block, a 

22    street, and a neighborhood clean.

23                 So we're going to be talking more 

24    about that 7-minute cleanup.  

25                 But on Earth Day, again, I wanted to 


                                                               3641

 1    thank the sponsors of this, I want to thank this 

 2    chamber for the work that they do.  And again, 

 3    Madam President, every day is Earth Day.

 4                 Thank you.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

 6    you, Senator.

 7                 Senator Hinchey on the resolution.

 8                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

 9    Madam President.  

10                 I rise to thank the sponsors of this 

11    resolution for bringing this forward to celebrate 

12    Earth Day, but to also give us an opportunity to 

13    talk about the incredible things that we are 

14    doing in this chamber to support our planet for 

15    generations to come.

16                 The Hudson Valley was the birthplace 

17    of the modern environmental movement.  Before it 

18    was in the lexicon of everyone's discussion, 

19    people were doing the work to actually elevate 

20    the importance of protecting our planet and our 

21    waterways and our soil and our air.  

22                 People like Manna Jo Greene, who I 

23    had the honor of honoring for Women's History 

24    Month through the LWC this year.  People like 

25    Pete Seeger and Riverkeeper and Clearwater, the 


                                                               3642

 1    folks who founded those two great organizations.  

 2    People who were battling corporate greed for the 

 3    betterment of our communities, our societies, and 

 4    for that next generation.

 5                 If you talk to younger people today, 

 6    high school students, Gen Z, they'll tell you one 

 7    of the major reasons why they feel completely 

 8    disaffected from government, from politics, is 

 9    because of the state of the climate and the 

10    planet.  That's what they say.  

11                 They feel like they won't have a 

12    planet to live on.  They're not even sure if they 

13    can plan for a family.  They don't know if they 

14    can have kids in the future because we don't know 

15    what Planet Earth will look like in 15, 20 or 

16    100 years from now.

17                 These are the conversations that 

18    people are having today.  And while it might feel 

19    strange and uncomfortable that that's the reality 

20    and it's easier to dismiss that as just people 

21    being hyperbolic, that is true.  Many of us are 

22    concerned about what the future is going to hold.  

23                 And so while Earth Day is a day 

24    where we can all stand up together and support 

25    the incredible work that we do on a bipartisan 


                                                               3643

 1    basis, it's also really important to recognize 

 2    that these are real fears that people have.  

 3                 The work that we do, whether it's 

 4    through the CLCPA or trying to shift to a clean 

 5    energy economy that actually makes things 

 6    cheaper, energy cheaper for folks -- I actually 

 7    was just meeting with the head of a large 

 8    financial institution who, unprompted, told us 

 9    that renewable energy was cheaper and they were 

10    actually helping invest in that because it's 

11    better for their clients.  

12                 When we actually push those things 

13    forward, we have to understand what we're 

14    actually fighting for here.  It's not 

15    virtue-signaling to our constituents and to 

16    advocacy groups.  We're actually trying to make 

17    sure that we have a planet and a future to live 

18    for.

19                 So I thank the sponsors of this 

20    resolution.  And I am hopeful that through the 

21    rest of this session and beyond, we can really 

22    understand what people are facing in this moment 

23    when we're talking about the climate crisis.

24                 Thank you.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 


                                                               3644

 1    you, Senator.

 2                 The resolution was adopted on 

 3    January 21st.

 4                 Senator Gianaris.

 5                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

 6    Madam President.  

 7                 Let's move on to previously adopted 

 8    Resolution 1927, by Senator Salazar, read that 

 9    resolution's title and call on Senator Salazar.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

11    Secretary will read.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1927, by 

13    Senator Salazar, memorializing Governor Kathy 

14    Hochul to proclaim April 19-25, 2026, as 

15    Crime Victims' Rights Week in the State of 

16    New York.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

18    Salazar on the resolution.

19                 SENATOR SALAZAR:   Thank you, 

20    Madam President.  

21                 This resolution marks this week as 

22    Crime Victims' Rights Week in the State of 

23    New York consistent with National Crime Victims 

24    Rights Week.

25                 It is a recognition that represents 


                                                               3645

 1    our renewed commitment to every New Yorker who 

 2    has been harmed, who has sought justice, and who 

 3    deserves to be heard.  

 4                 This year's national theme is 

 5    Listen, Act, Advocate.  I want to emphasize those 

 6    words for a moment, because they cannot be 

 7    abstract.  They must be a call to action.  

 8                 What do we mean by "listen" in this 

 9    context?  Far too often, survivors of crime are 

10    spoken about, rather than spoken with and heard.  

11    They navigate court systems that were not 

12    designed with them in mind.  

13                 We have processes that make it 

14    complicated for victims to access the support 

15    they need, whether that is legal support, 

16    financial, psychological, or medical support.  

17                 Survivors are asked to relive the 

18    worst moments of their lives in cold, 

19    bureaucratic settings.  They are told their cases 

20    have been closed, their perpetrators released, 

21    their benefits exhausted, with little explanation 

22    and without compassion.

23                 Listening means building systems 

24    where survivors have a real voice, not just a 

25    case number.


                                                               3646

 1                 To act.  Awareness without action is 

 2    hollow.  Action looks like investing in services, 

 3    streamlining access, and removing every barrier 

 4    between a survivor and the support they are owed.

 5                 An aspect more difficult for our 

 6    society to reckon with is how often incarcerated 

 7    individuals are survivors of crime themselves, 

 8    now part of a cycle of violence.  Providing 

 9    responsible parties, when a crime is committed, 

10    with rehabilitative opportunities is critical to 

11    ensuring that they properly heal, transition back 

12    into society, contribute positively to our 

13    communities, and end these perpetual cycles of 

14    harm.

15                 We've made progress as a state in 

16    our efforts to address the needs of New Yorkers 

17    impacted by crime.  In 2019 we passed the 

18    Domestic Violence Survivors Justice Act.  

19    However, we've seen many cases in which this 

20    important law has not been applied as intended to 

21    support survivors.  

22                 That same year, we also passed the 

23    Child Victims Act, modifying the statute of 

24    limitations for New Yorkers who survived sexual 

25    abuse as a minor.  


                                                               3647

 1                 This year, the Fair Access to Victim 

 2    Compensation Act went into effect, eliminating 

 3    certain arbitrary barriers that survivors faced 

 4    in seeking financial compensation.

 5                 To advocate is needed because 

 6    there's clearly so much more for us to do.  It is 

 7    the responsibility of each of us in this chamber 

 8    to advocate for change.  Change like through the 

 9    Survivors First Act, which would remove even more 

10    obstacles that victims face when seeking 

11    compensation to recover from harm they've 

12    experienced.  Legislation that would improve the 

13    level of support provided to survivors during the 

14    interview process by law enforcement.

15                 We must also step up to empower our 

16    victim services organizations.  Currently many of 

17    them are being threatened by the federal 

18    government, punished for their work specifically 

19    in serving certain communities -- namely, 

20    immigrant survivors of crime and LGBTQ 

21    individuals.  Many have already seen their 

22    federal funding cut.

23                 New York must reject these blatant 

24    attacks and instead take opportunities to fill 

25    those funding gaps.  It is what is required of us 


                                                               3648

 1    so that victims of domestic violence, of sexual 

 2    assault, of hate crimes, of gun violence, and 

 3    especially those of them who are of marginalized 

 4    identities will no longer feel alone.

 5                 To every survivor who might hear 

 6    these words, you deserve a system that sees you.  

 7    You deserve to have your voice centered in our 

 8    pursuit of justice.  

 9                 I urge my colleagues to support this 

10    resolution and, more importantly, to carry its 

11    spirit into the legislative work ahead of us.

12                 Thank you, Madam President.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

14    you, Senator.

15                 Senator Murray on the resolution.

16                 SENATOR MURRAY:   Thank you, 

17    Madam President.  

18                 And I thank Senator Salazar for 

19    bringing this resolution to the floor.

20                 Some of the words in the speech -- I 

21    didn't write a speech for this because I think if 

22    there is ever a subject that should come from the 

23    heart, I think it's this.  I think it's how we 

24    look at, think of, deal with victims of crime.

25                 Let's look at the two sides when 


                                                               3649

 1    there is a crime.  You have the criminal, the one 

 2    that did the act, a conscious choice to violate 

 3    someone else.  You have the victim, who had no 

 4    choice.  A victim who doesn't want to be a 

 5    victim, who never would want that.  

 6                 During my colleague's speech just now 

 7    it was mentioned that some of those in prison now 

 8    were victims themselves.  And that amazes me, 

 9    because if there was ever someone that should 

10    know what impact crime has on a victim, it should 

11    be them.  And yet they chose to do it anyway.

12                 You know, we -- it's Crime Victims' 

13    Rights Week.  I think, personally, every hour of 

14    every day, of every week, of every month, of 

15    every year we should be thinking about those 

16    victims and how we can help them.

17                 We -- let me preface this by saying 

18    I don't think anyone purposefully is trying to 

19    hurt anyone or does this out of any animosity or 

20    anything.  I think it's a case where we just 

21    don't think about it.  

22                 So on the agenda today we have a 

23    bill that expunges convictions, another one that 

24    addresses inmates' efforts to reduce their prison 

25    time.  Another one, that I actually think is a 


                                                               3650

 1    pretty good bill, that gives vocational training 

 2    to the inmates.

 3                 Some would think, Well, what's that 

 4    have to do with victims?  And if you asked that 

 5    question, then you don't know.  If you asked that 

 6    question, you haven't been listening.  You 

 7    haven't talked to a victim.  Because everything 

 8    we do in this body, every piece of legislation we 

 9    pass that reduces a sentence or does this or 

10    that, or moves parole sooner, impacts those 

11    victims.  

12                 This past Sunday -- every year when 

13    National Crime Victims' Rights Week comes up, 

14    it's kicked off by vigils that are held all over, 

15    and I attend those every year.  If I had one 

16    wish, it would be that every policymaker and 

17    every lawmaker in this state would have to attend 

18    that vigil.  

19                 I attended it this year.  And what 

20    they'll do is they'll tell their stories.  And 

21    this particular group was the parents and other 

22    survivors of murdered crime victims.  When you 

23    hear these stories, it breaks your heart.  And 

24    then you listen to them reading off the names -- 

25    600 names just in the vigil I was at in 


                                                               3651

 1    Suffolk County.  Think about that.  

 2                 And every name on that list is not 

 3    just a name, it's someone that had loved ones, 

 4    family members, a spouse, children, someone -- or 

 5    people that loved them, that cared for them.  And 

 6    now they don't have them.  Why?  Because someone 

 7    decided to take their life.  Someone made the 

 8    conscious decision to end their life.  

 9                 And they don't -- it doesn't end 

10    with the crime.  In fact, unfortunately for the 

11    loved ones, that's where it starts.  That's where 

12    the pain starts.  It doesn't go away.  

13                 And so every time the convicted 

14    criminal goes for parole and it's denied and then 

15    they want to -- we want to give them an appeal.  

16    And then we want to move up the next parole 

17    hearing.  

18                 But what you're forgetting is every 

19    parole hearing, every time that comes up, the 

20    victims have to relive it.  And I assure you they 

21    don't wake up that morning and say, Oh, I think 

22    I'll tell my story today.  No.  They're putting 

23    that testimony together.  

24                 As my colleague said, they have to 

25    go before this cold bureaucratic group of people 


                                                               3652

 1    they don't know and tell the most intimate, 

 2    painful story of their lives, to fight to keep 

 3    the person that took their loved one from getting 

 4    out.

 5                 What I would say is this.  I just 

 6    ask this, and I just wish this.  Just consider 

 7    them.  Every day we should do what this week is 

 8    about.  We should think about the crime victims 

 9    and the impact that what we do here has on them.  

10    Because I promise you, I promise you, it impacts 

11    them.  

12                 I want to thank Leader Ortt and my 

13    colleague Senator Rolison.  Leader Ortt approved, 

14    I guess you would say, us having crime victims 

15    roundtables across the state over the past few 

16    months, where we met with law enforcement, 

17    district attorneys, crime victims, advocates 

18    groups.  But most importantly, we met with 

19    victims and listened to them.  

20                 And I've got to tell you, it was 

21    amazing to hear some of these stories but to also 

22    hear some of the things that they say they 

23    experienced that never crossed my mind.  We 

24    didn't even think about it.  But it gave us the 

25    fuel to move forward.  We're going to be 


                                                               3653

 1    releasing a report about all of the information 

 2    that we got from that.  

 3                 And it's the Victims First Agenda, 

 4    because the victims need to come first.  That 

 5    should be our first thought:  How will it impact 

 6    them?  And I hope we'll read this report, I hope 

 7    we'll consider what policy changes or what things 

 8    that we can do here to help give them -- they'll 

 9    never completely get peace.  But to just help a 

10    little and to send the message that it's not just 

11    Crime Victims' Rights Week, it's every day.  

12    Every day we will hear you, we will consider you, 

13    we will think of you.

14                 So with that, I thank the sponsor 

15    again for bringing the resolution to the floor.  

16                 Madam President, I proudly vote aye.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

18    you, Senator.

19                 Senator Martins on the resolution.

20                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Madam President, 

21    I have nothing left to say.  I want to thank my 

22    colleague for his thoughts.  I think he was 

23    extraordinarily eloquent.  

24                 I add my own comments to his and 

25    would just urge our colleagues, when we decide to 


                                                               3654

 1    pass laws in this chamber that sometimes don't 

 2    prioritize our victims, that we think twice about 

 3    the opportunities that we have to give justice to 

 4    victims and their families in the context of 

 5    other things that sometimes we're trying to 

 6    achieve.

 7                 Thank you, Madam President.  I vote 

 8    aye.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

10    you, Senator.

11                 The resolution was adopted on 

12    April 21st.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I guess my 

14    colleague had something left to say after all, 

15    Madam President.

16                 Next up, previously adopted 

17    Resolution 1925, by Senator Hinchey.  Please 

18    read that resolution's title and call on 

19    Senator Hinchey.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

21    Secretary will read.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1925, by 

23    Senator Hinchey, memorializing Governor Kathy 

24    Hochul to proclaim May 2026 as Lyme Disease 

25    Awareness Month in the State of New York.


                                                               3655

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 2    Hinchey on the resolution.

 3                 SENATOR HINCHEY:   Thank you, 

 4    Madam President.

 5                 If you spend any time outdoors, you 

 6    know that Lyme disease and other tick-borne 

 7    illnesses are a major threat.  And we have a 

 8    responsibility to drive up public awareness and 

 9    promote early detection.  

10                 While the Hudson Valley has 

11    historically been a hotspot for Lyme, we are now 

12    seeing it in nearly every corner of New York 

13    State, and it's on the rise.  Tick submissions 

14    have jumped 145 percent in a single year, 

15    according to the Upstate Tick Testing Laboratory.  

16    And SUNY researchers are predicting an early and 

17    tick-heavy season this year because of rising 

18    temperatures.  

19                 And that is true.  We're already 

20    seeing it -- we're doing this resolution today, 

21    in the end of April, because May has become 

22    actually too late for Lyme and tick-borne disease 

23    awareness for anyone in our communities.

24                 Because of the warm weather that we 

25    had just about a week ago, ticks were prevalent 


                                                               3656

 1    everywhere.  Personally, in one day, I pulled 

 2    three ticks off my dog as they were running 

 3    through the woods.  

 4                 If you talk to anyone in our 

 5    communities, they've already had major run-ins 

 6    with wood ticks and deer ticks, kind of in every 

 7    corner of our state.  

 8                 And this year is going to be 

 9    especially bad because of the winter that we had.  

10    Some people may think that because of the 

11    freezing temperatures it would actually be a 

12    better year with fewer insects and fewer ticks.  

13    But because of the amount of snow that we had, it 

14    actually insulated the ground -- which means this 

15    year we are going to have even more bugs, more 

16    insects, and more ticks than we would in any 

17    other season, or we have in seasons past.

18                 We have to be aware of what happens 

19    and what we're looking for when we're spending 

20    time outside.  We live in one of the most 

21    beautiful places in the world.  We want to enjoy 

22    our forests and our parks, we want to spend time 

23    outdoors with our pets.  We need to be able to 

24    keep each other and ourselves safe.

25                 In New York, our state averages over 


                                                               3657

 1    17,500 new Lyme cases a year, and many of them 

 2    are actually undetected.  And it's not just Lyme 

 3    anymore, it's other tick-borne diseases as well.  

 4    We just saw the rise of something called 

 5    alpha-gal that our agencies are looking into.  It 

 6    feels like we're constantly being bombarded with 

 7    new tick-borne illnesses.  

 8                 A study by the Cary Institute found 

 9    that more than 38 percent of tested ticks were 

10    carrying pathogens for at least one of these 

11    diseases.  And nearly 11 percent of tested ticks 

12    were positive for both Lyme and babesiosis at the 

13    end of that study.

14                 Prevention right now is the best 

15    protection for tick-born diseases and prevention, 

16    and that starts with awareness.  So if you are 

17    spending time outside, make sure that you're 

18    wearing long pants, that you're wearing bright 

19    colors.  Don't wear black, because the ticks will 

20    blend in.  And always do a tick check when you 

21    come in from outdoors.  Also check your pets.  

22                 And if you do find a tick, make sure 

23    to remove it immediately.  And you have to really 

24    dig in there and get the head because otherwise 

25    it stays.  Ticks are really -- really disgusting.  


                                                               3658

 1                 So make sure that you're checking 

 2    your pets and yourself.  Monitor the area, if you 

 3    find a tick, for 30 days.  And make sure that you 

 4    are spreading this information to your friends 

 5    and neighbors so we can keep more people safe 

 6    from Lyme disease and tick-borne illnesses across 

 7    our state.  

 8                 Thank you very much.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

10    you, Senator.

11                 Senator Ryan on the resolution.

12                 SENATOR RYAN:   Thank you, 

13    Madam President.  

14                 Thank you, Senator Hinchey, for 

15    bringing this resolution forward.  

16                 I rise to support May as the 

17    Lyme Awareness Month, certainly a time to raise 

18    awareness, encourage prevention, and support so 

19    many New Yorkers who are dealing with this very 

20    terrible disease.  

21                 Obviously Lyme disease is the most 

22    common tick-borne illness.  But here in New York 

23    it's something that tragically too many families 

24    know firsthand.  So as Senator Hinchey pointed 

25    out, prevention is key.  


                                                               3659

 1                 But we also want to recognize the 

 2    people who are living with Lyme disease and the 

 3    challenges that they face every day getting 

 4    diagnosed, treated, and hopefully recovering.

 5                 So earlier this season the Senate 

 6    passed my bill, Senate Bill 4816, to help ensure 

 7    that workers exposed to tick-borne illness on the 

 8    job can access the care that they need.  

 9                 And I'm certainly optimistic and 

10    hopeful that the Assembly will pass that bill so 

11    we can continue strengthening the support for 

12    those that are the greatest at risk.

13                 And lastly, I would be remiss if I 

14    did not recognize the hard work being done back 

15    home in the 50th Senate District by the 

16    hardworking group at the CNY Lyme and Tick-Borne 

17    Disease Alliance.

18                 Thank you.  I vote aye.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

20    you, Senator.

21                 The resolution was adopted on 

22    April 21st.

23                 Senator Gianaris.

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

25    Madam President.  


                                                               3660

 1                 Now let's move to previously adopted 

 2    Resolution 1864, by Senator Rolison, have that 

 3    resolution's title read and call on 

 4    Senator Rolison.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 6    Secretary will read.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Resolution 1864, by 

 8    Senator Rolison, memorializing Governor Kathy 

 9    Hochul to proclaim April 2026 as Pet Cruelty 

10    Awareness Month in the State of New York, in 

11    conjunction with the observance of 

12    National Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Month.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

14    Rolison on the resolution.

15                 SENATOR ROLISON:   Thank you, 

16    Madam President.  

17                 I want to thank the chamber for 

18    allowing me to introduce this resolution on a 

19    topic, quite frankly, that is heartbreaking.  

20                 Like many of you, we watch TV.  And 

21    when my wife and I are watching TV, of course our 

22    dog Madison is with us.  And most of you know how 

23    we feel about our dog.  We adore her, we love 

24    her, and she is so important to Lori and I.

25                 And invariably there's always 


                                                               3661

 1    advertisements and public awareness of cruelty to 

 2    animals on TV -- asking for help, asking for 

 3    funding.  And we have to change that immediately; 

 4    I cannot look at those animals that they are 

 5    showing us who don't have it like our dog, who 

 6    are not cared for, who are abused and neglected.

 7                 And so when we talk about 

 8    Animal Cruelty Month, there are people that are 

 9    actually doing the work to help these animals.  

10                 And animal cruelty, Madam President, 

11    is defined as the infliction of unjustifiable 

12    pain, suffering or death upon an animal, either 

13    through intentional abuse or neglect.  It 

14    includes physical violence, starvation, 

15    abandonment, chronic tethering, lack of proper 

16    shelter, and organized fighting.

17                 I know that goes on, 

18    Madam President, but I have an extremely hard 

19    time in accepting it at all.  And there are 

20    individuals who are dedicated to the protection 

21    of animals who do that as their work, as their 

22    career.  We need to acknowledge them for what 

23    they do, because quite frankly most of us could 

24    not do that.  

25                 But we want them to do that, 


                                                               3662

 1    Madam President.  And without their dedication -- 

 2    and that's a love of animals, individuals that do 

 3    this work, whether in the shelters, ASPCA 

 4    officers, animal control officers, individuals 

 5    who take animals in to foster them.  They're 

 6    doing the work that our communities need.

 7                 On April 10th I had the opportunity 

 8    to visit a facility that was built in my district 

 9    in the Town of Pawling.  And it's the ASPCA 

10    New York Operations Recovery & Rehabilitation 

11    Center, which opened last fall.  

12                 This facility cost $38 million to 

13    construct.  It is the primary shelter for abused 

14    dogs that come out of New York City through the 

15    NYPD.  Currently it has 60 dogs there.  It can 

16    handle 80, and at some point they will have 80.  

17    And these are all part of animal cruelty cases, 

18    active animal cruelty cases by the NYPD and other 

19    agencies.  

20                 This center employs 67 individuals.  

21    It has a veterinary clinic and all medically 

22    available services for those dogs.  

23                 Now, it was designed and constructed 

24    using the latest technology infrastructure by 

25    specialized architects that only do this work.  


                                                               3663

 1    It is an amazing, amazing place for those dogs.  

 2                 And, Madam President, I got to tour 

 3    that facility and to see the work that they're 

 4    doing.  And I met a dog in one of the staff 

 5    rooms, and her name was Coco.  And Coco had been 

 6    seized by the NYPD in an animal cruelty case.  

 7    And I don't know the specifics, because of course 

 8    I didn't want to know.  

 9                 But she was underneath like a 

10    cubicle in a staff office, intently looking at  

11    me because she didn't know who I was.  And you 

12    tell through her eyes that she was looking at me 

13    sort of suspiciously:  Who is this guy?  

14                 And all the staff people, of course, 

15    she knows them.  And she's with them because they 

16    are working on getting her to a point where she 

17    can be with other people and maybe someday can be 

18    adopted.

19                 And just -- and I'll end with this, 

20    Madam President, is that the love and the care 

21    that I saw that day in Pawling was so heartfelt.  

22    And when I left there -- as difficult as it may 

23    have been to go in, walking out I felt pretty 

24    darn good, because those dogs are being cared for 

25    and rehabilitated.  


                                                               3664

 1                 And they have seen unspeakable 

 2    horrors.  And they can't stand up for themselves, 

 3    Madam President.  They need others to do that.  

 4                 So with this resolution, and this 

 5    particular month, we are saying thank you to the 

 6    individuals that do that work and will continue 

 7    to do the work.  

 8                 And I am also very proud of this 

 9    chamber and the members who support that.  We 

10    have passed bills in this chamber to protect 

11    animals, and that is something that we all can be 

12    proud of.  

13                 Thank you, Madam President.  And of 

14    course I proudly vote aye on this resolution.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

16    you, Senator.

17                 Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick on the 

18    resolution.

19                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

20    Thank you, Madam President.  

21                 I want to thank my friend 

22    Senator Rolison for bringing this resolution 

23    to the floor to recognize April as 

24    National Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Month.  

25                 There's a lot of common themes here 


                                                               3665

 1    today.  We just heard about ticks and checking 

 2    our pets for ticks, which is a serious issue, 

 3    especially where I live.  And then we also have 

 4    to acknowledge the fact that there's a connection 

 5    between cruelty to animals and domestic violence, 

 6    cruelty to humans.  

 7                 And there's -- so there's a common 

 8    theme today.  I'm very proud of our chamber today 

 9    for recognizing these issues.

10                 I'm a proud cosponsor of this 

11    resolution, and I'm even a prouder dog mom to 

12    Oreo and Biscuit, who are truly a part of my 

13    family.  We kind of have a joke at home that if, 

14    God forbid, we ever had a fire, my daughters 

15    would save the dogs before they saved their 

16    sisters and their brother, because that's how 

17    important they are to us.

18                 It's really remarkable, as 

19    Senator Rolison referred to the people that are 

20    doing the work.  I want to give a shout-out to 

21    Posh Pets in Long Beach.  Within the last few 

22    months they took on 40 or so animals from an 

23    abandoned home, and it was well above the number 

24    of animals that they could take on.  

25                 I happened to be in the area, and I 


                                                               3666

 1    stopped by with blankets and sheets and things 

 2    that they needed.  And the director looked at me 

 3    and broke down and cried and was so happy to see 

 4    me and support the work that she was doing.  

 5                 And it was a really powerful moment 

 6    because all I did was show up.  She was there 

 7    taking care of a dog that was horribly matted and 

 8    in pain.  And it took so long to shave this 

 9    animal that really had been so horribly abused.

10                 Animal cruelty is not just an issue 

11    of neglect; it's a serious public safety concern.  

12    And research shows that connection.  The 

13    Humane World for Animals said that 71 percent of 

14    domestic violence victims in one survey reported 

15    that the abuser also targeted their pets.  

16                 And in another study -- suspected 

17    child abuse -- when they were watching those 

18    families they said 88 percent of those families 

19    under supervision for physical abuse of children 

20    were also found to have abused their pets.  

21                 And that's why this resolution is so 

22    important.  Because by recognizing it, we're 

23    sending a strong message that abuse of any kind 

24    will not be tolerated.  We need to have stronger 

25    protections, enforcement and education.  This 


                                                               3667

 1    resolution gives a voice to the voiceless, and 

 2    that is so powerful.  

 3                 New Yorkers care deeply about the 

 4    welfare of their animals, whether they be furry, 

 5    feathery, or even scaly, and we need to make sure 

 6    that we raise awareness and encourage reporting, 

 7    compassion, and prevention.

 8                 So thank you again to the sponsor.  

 9                 Thank you, Madam President.  I 

10    proudly vote aye.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

12    you, Senator.

13                 The resolution was adopted on 

14    April 21st.

15                 Senator Gianaris.

16                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

17    all of today's resolutions are open for 

18    cosponsorship.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    resolutions are open for cosponsorship.  Should 

21    you choose not to be a cosponsor, please notify 

22    the desk.

23                 Senator Gianaris.

24                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Please take up 

25    the calendar.  


                                                               3668

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 2    Secretary will read.  

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    236, Assembly Print Number 3126B, by 

 5    Assemblymember Lunsford, an act to amend the 

 6    Executive Law.

 7                 SENATOR LANZA:   Lay it aside.  

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Lay it 

 9    aside.  

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11    290, Senate Print 3974A, by Senator Sepúlveda, an 

12    act to amend the Correction Law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

14    last section.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 9.  This 

16    act shall take effect immediately.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

18    roll.

19                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

21    the results.

22                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

23    Calendar 290, voting in the negative are 

24    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

25    Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, Murray, 


                                                               3669

 1    Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

 2    Rolison, Skoufis, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber 

 3    and Weik.

 4                 Ayes, 37.  Ayes, 21.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 6    is passed.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8    350, Senate Print 985A, by Senator Brouk, an act 

 9    to amend the Tax Law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

11    last section.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13    act shall take effect on the first day of the 

14    sales tax quarterly period.

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

16    roll.

17                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

19    the results.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

22    is passed.

23                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24    384, Senate Print 940, by Senator Sanders, an act 

25    to amend the Social Services Law.


                                                               3670

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 2    last section.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 5    shall have become a law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 7    roll.

 8                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

10    the results.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

13    is passed.

14                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15    541, Senate Print 2393, by Senator Persaud, an 

16    act to amend the General Business Law.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

18    last section.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20    act shall take effect on the 90th day after it 

21    shall have become a law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

23    roll.

24                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 


                                                               3671

 1    the results.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 4    is passed.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6    587, Senate Print 329A, by Senator Bailey, an act 

 7    to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 9    last section.

10                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

11    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

12    shall have become a law.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

14    roll.

15                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

17    the results.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

19    Calendar 587, voting in the negative are 

20    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

21    Chan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, 

22    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

23    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

24                 Ayes, 37.  Nays, 21.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 


                                                               3672

 1    is passed.

 2                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3    596, Senate Print 1946, by Senator Rivera, an act 

 4    to amend the Criminal Procedure Law.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 6    last section.

 7                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 9    shall have become a law.

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

11    roll.

12                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

14    the results.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

16    Calendar 596, voting in the negative are 

17    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

18    Chan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martinez, Martins, 

19    Mattera, Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, 

20    Palumbo, Rhoads, Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

21    Weber and Weik.

22                 Ayes, 36.  Nays, 22.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

24    is passed.

25                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               3673

 1    616, Senate Print 5110A, by Senator 

 2    Scarcella-Spanton, an act to amend the Penal Law.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect immediately.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

11    the results.

12                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

14    is passed.

15                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16    621, Senate Print 4357, by Senator Bailey, an act 

17    to amend the Correction Law.

18                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

19    last section.

20                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

21    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

22    shall have become a law.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               3674

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.

 4                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 5    is passed.

 6                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 7    656, Senate Print 3460, by Senator Gounardes, an 

 8    act to amend the Labor Law.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

10    last section.

11                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

12    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

13    shall have become a law.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

15    roll.

16                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

18    the results.

19                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20    Calendar 656, voting in the negative are 

21    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, 

22    Chan, Griffo, Helming, Lanza, Martins, Mattera, 

23    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

24    Rolison, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

25                 Ayes, 37.  Nays, 21.


                                                               3675

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is passed.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4    664, Senate Print 4464A, by Senator Mayer, an act 

 5    to amend the General Municipal Law.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 7    last section.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

10    shall have become a law.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

12    roll.

13                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

15    the results.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

17    Calendar 664, voting in the negative are 

18    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Griffo, Murray, 

19    Oberacker, Ortt, Stec, Walczyk and Weik.  Also 

20    Senator O'Mara.

21                 Ayes, 48.  Nays, 10.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

23    is passed.

24                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25    675, Assembly Print Number 8305, by 


                                                               3676

 1    Assemblymember Berger, an act to amend the 

 2    Civil Practice Law and Rules.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

 4    last section.

 5                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6    act shall take effect on the 60th day after it 

 7    shall have become a law.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 9    roll.

10                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

12    the results.

13                 THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 58.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

17    683, Senate Print 7974, by Senator Gonzalez, an 

18    act to amend the General Business Law.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Read the 

20    last section.

21                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

22    act shall take effect immediately.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

24    roll.

25                 (The Secretary called the roll.)


                                                               3677

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Announce 

 2    the results.

 3                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 4    Calendar 683, voting in the negative are 

 5    Senators Ashby, Borrello, Helming, Mattera, 

 6    Murray, Oberacker, O'Mara, Ortt, Palumbo, Rhoads, 

 7    Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, Weber and Weik.

 8                 Ayes, 43.  Nays, 15.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

10    is passed.

11                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

12    reading of today's calendar.

13                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Let's move on to 

14    the controversial calendar, please.  

15                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

16    Secretary will ring the bell.

17                 The Secretary will read.

18                 THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19    236, Assembly Bill Number 3126B, by 

20    Assemblymember Lunsford, an act to amend the 

21    Executive Law.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

23    Rhoads, why do you rise?

24                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Madam President, I 

25    was hoping the sponsor would yield to what 


                                                               3678

 1    hopefully will be only a few questions.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

 3    sponsor yield? 

 4                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes, of course.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 6    sponsor yields.

 7                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you, 

 8    madam President.  Through you, of course.  

 9                 Senator Skoufis, my understanding is 

10    the general purpose of the bill is to increase 

11    transparency so that people who make complaints 

12    actually can receive information regarding the 

13    complaints that they've made back, so that they 

14    know that there's some sort of response.  

15    Correct?  

16                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

17    Madam President, yes, that's correct.

18                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Okay.  And will 

19    the sponsor continue to yield?  

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

21    sponsor yield? 

22                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

24    sponsor yields.

25                 SENATOR RHOADS:   It's also my 


                                                               3679

 1    understanding -- through you, Madam President -- 

 2    that this applies to the State Energy 

 3    Conservation Code, the Uniform Fire Prevention 

 4    and Building Code, and the Local Building Code, 

 5    is that correct?  

 6                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

 7    Madam President, yes, that's correct.

 8                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

 9    continue to yield?

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

11    sponsor yield?

12                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

14    sponsor yields.

15                 SENATOR RHOADS:   And through you, 

16    Madam President, this would include violations of 

17    village, town or other localities' building codes 

18    as well, correct?  

19                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes, that's 

20    correct.

21                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

22    continue to yield.

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

24    sponsor yield? 

25                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.


                                                               3680

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 2    sponsor yields.

 3                 SENATOR RHOADS:   And through you, 

 4    Madam President.  This applies -- it's my 

 5    understanding this applies to orders to remedy 

 6    notices of violations as well as actual 

 7    violations themselves that are issued by any 

 8    local department, correct.

 9                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes, that is 

10    correct.

11                 SENATOR RHOADS:   And will the 

12    sponsor continue to yield.

13                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

14    sponsor yield?

15                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

17    Senator yields.

18                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Through you, 

19    Madam President.  Are there any provisions in 

20    this legislation that -- I'll withdraw that 

21    question, actually, and ask a different one.

22                 Through you, Madam President.  Does 

23    this bill dictate the form in which those 

24    notices are to be sent to the complainants?  

25                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 


                                                               3681

 1    Madam President, yes.  The form that's required 

 2    is mail, certified or registered.

 3                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

 4    yield to -- 

 5                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Or in person.  

 6    Sorry.

 7                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Okay.  Will the 

 8    sponsor yield to another question?  

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

10    sponsor yield? 

11                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

13    sponsor yields.

14                 SENATOR RHOADS:   And would this be 

15    done -- I know it's got to be certified mail.  

16    But would this be done through correspondence, 

17    through actual copies of violation notices?  

18                 What information would actually be 

19    sent?

20                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

21    Madam President.  The bill does not prescribe.

22                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

23    yield to another question.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

25    sponsor yield?


                                                               3682

 1                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

 2                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 3    sponsor yields.

 4                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you, 

 5    Madam President.  Through you, of course.

 6                 Would the complainant's information 

 7    be included if it's sent by letter?  Would the 

 8    complainant's information be included on the 

 9    actual letter?

10                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

11    Madam President, the bill does not prescribe.  

12    But the Secretary may promulgate regulations that 

13    speak to that.  

14                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Will the sponsor 

15    yield to another question?  

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

17    sponsor yield?

18                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    sponsor yields.  

21                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you, 

22    Madam President.  Through you.  

23                 Are there any provisions within the 

24    law that would actually exempt correspondence 

25    with the claimant directly from FOIL?


                                                               3683

 1                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

 2    madam President, there is no exemption in the 

 3    bill.

 4                 SENATOR RHOADS:   Thank you, 

 5    Madam President.  On the bill.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 7    Rhoads on the bill.

 8                 SENATOR RHOADS:   I certainly 

 9    understand the premise and the purpose of the -- 

10    the premise and the purpose of the legislation so 

11    that complainants actually receive some comfort 

12    by the fact that they know that their 

13    complaints are being heard and responded to.

14                 My concern, however, is that without 

15    the protections of an exemption from FOIL that 

16    information concerning complainants, which is 

17    typically excluded from being received by the 

18    building owner, may become subject to FOIL due to 

19    the absence of any FOIL exception being put in 

20    play within the legislation that we're sponsoring 

21    today.  

22                 For that reason, I'll be voting no.  

23    I would encourage my colleagues to do the same.

24                 Thank you, Madam President.  

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 


                                                               3684

 1    you, Senator.  

 2                 Senator Martins, why do you rise?

 3                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

 4    Madam President.  If the sponsor would yield to a 

 5    few questions.

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Will the 

 7    sponsor yield?

 8                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

10    sponsor yields.

11                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Would this 

12    legislation apply to all municipalities -- local 

13    municipalities, villages, towns and cities?

14                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

15    Madam President, yes.

16                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Through you, 

17    Madam President, if the sponsor would continue to 

18    yield.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

20    sponsor yield?  

21                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

23    sponsor yields.

24                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Including the 

25    City of New York?  


                                                               3685

 1                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

 2    Madam President, yes.

 3                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Madam President, 

 4    through you, if the sponsor would continue to 

 5    yield.  

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

 7    sponsor yield? 

 8                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

 9                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

10    sponsor yields.

11                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Is there a 

12    consequence to a municipality not complying with 

13    this legislation?

14                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

15    Madam President, an Article 78 remedy could 

16    exist, much as it does with many other similar 

17    types of laws.

18                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Through you, 

19    Madam President, if the sponsor would continue to 

20    yield.  

21                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

22    sponsor yield?

23                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

24                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

25    Senator yields.


                                                               3686

 1                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Sure.  Of course 

 2    there's an Article 78 if someone's willing to go 

 3    through that process.  

 4                 But is there any consequence to 

 5    either the municipality's action in enforcing the 

 6    code or any consequence with regard to a separate 

 7    intervention by a complainant who doesn't receive 

 8    notice?

 9                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

10    Madam President.  On the first, this bill doesn't 

11    speak to the first.  And there's certainly plenty 

12    of other sections of the law that do speak to 

13    proper enforcement of the code.  This bill, as my 

14    colleague knows, speaks simply to notice of 

15    resolution.  

16                 And again, there are no penalties 

17    prescribed in this bill.  But certainly most of 

18    us in this chamber have faith that our 

19    municipalities, all of whom have legal counsel, 

20    are going to follow this and other municipal 

21    laws.

22                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Through you, 

23    Madam President, if the sponsor would continue to 

24    yield.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 


                                                               3687

 1    sponsor yield? 

 2                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

 3                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 4    sponsor yields.

 5                 SENATOR MARTINS:   So the language 

 6    of the bill speaks to -- you know, uses the term 

 7    "initially" when referencing whoever the 

 8    complainant happens to be.  Is this limited to 

 9    just that first complaint that is received with 

10    regard to a property?  Or is there a 

11    responsibility to issue certified mailings to 

12    every person who issues a complaint that results 

13    in the issuance of an enforcement action by a 

14    municipality?

15                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   The intention -- 

16    and I believe the bill does read this way -- is 

17    to apply to any and all complaints, not just a 

18    first of what could be multiple complaints.

19                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Madam President, 

20    through you, if the sponsor would continue to 

21    yield.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

23    sponsor yield?

24                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 


                                                               3688

 1    sponsor yields.  

 2                 SENATOR MARTINS:   And with respect 

 3    to the notice requirements of this bill, is there 

 4    anything in this bill that requires that the 

 5    municipality provide that notice prior to issuing 

 6    the violation, simultaneously with issuing the 

 7    violation, or subsequent to issuing the 

 8    violation?  

 9                 Is there any time frame in this bill 

10    within which the municipality would have to issue 

11    the notice to the complainant?

12                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   There are two 

13    requirements in this bill.  One is a copy of the 

14    actual complaint, and the second is a resolution.

15                 On the first, there is no 

16    prescription of timing.  On the second, there's 

17    no prescription, but certainly if it is speaking 

18    to a resolution, it would be subsequent to any 

19    determined resolution.

20                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Through you, 

21    Madam President, if the sponsor would continue to 

22    yield.  

23                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

24    sponsor yield?

25                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.


                                                               3689

 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

 2    Senator yields.

 3                 SENATOR MARTINS:   So I know you, 

 4    like I, have many local municipalities in our 

 5    districts, and certainly there are hundreds 

 6    across the state.

 7                 Were there any municipalities that 

 8    reached out to you and asked you to sponsor this 

 9    as a way of addressing a concern that they may 

10    have?

11                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

12    Madam President.  No specific municipality 

13    requested this bill, no.

14                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

15    Madam President.  Through you, if the sponsor 

16    would continue to yield.  

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

18    sponsor yield?

19                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

20                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

21    sponsor yields.  

22                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Did you reach out 

23    to any of the municipalities in your district and 

24    ask them whether they thought it was a good idea 

25    and a good use of public resources to require 


                                                               3690

 1    that they have to send these notices out by 

 2    certified mail, return receipt requested, and to 

 3    then use and occupy time from their staff in 

 4    doing so?  

 5                 Did any of your municipalities in 

 6    your district tell you that they thought this was 

 7    a good idea?

 8                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

 9    Madam President.  I'll answer that in a little 

10    bit of a different way.  

11                 There are many municipal leaders who 

12    are very much aware of this bill, and none of 

13    them reached out to me expressing concern or 

14    opposition to this bill.  

15                 And I think I know where my 

16    colleague is going with this.  Certified mail is 

17    about $6.  And I thought this line of questioning 

18    might have come from the previous debater, and so 

19    I looked up Glen Cove.  And in Glen Cove there 

20    are about 600, maybe a little bit north of 

21    600 annual complaints, building code complaints 

22    that are filed with the city.  

23                 And given, again, there are two 

24    notices here, not one, we're talking about 

25    1200 correspondences.  And that assumes they're 


                                                               3691

 1    all in mail; they can be, again, in person.  And 

 2    so we're talking about $7200.  

 3                 The City of Glen Cove's budget -- 

 4    and again, this is representative of all the 

 5    municipalities around the state that we're 

 6    talking about here.  The City of Glen Cove's 

 7    budget is about $70 million.  And so $7200 over 

 8    that much larger sum of money amounts to 

 9    0.01 percent of the budget.

10                 And the reason why this is 

11    important -- through you, Madam President -- is 

12    that someone who files a complaint in many cases, 

13    if not most cases, is filing a complaint because 

14    they themselves or their residents -- sorry, 

15    they, their families, or their residents are 

16    endangered by the alleged issue in the 

17    neighboring units or the neighboring property.  

18                 And we heard yesterday, you know, 

19    one of our colleagues expressed interest in 

20    Sharia law.  In Sharia law, the premise of their 

21    building regulations is do no harm.  In New York 

22    State, our Building Code's premise is certainly 

23    to protect those in that residence, to protect 

24    first responders who may enter that residence, 

25    and to protect the neighbors of that residence.  


                                                               3692

 1                 And if there is an illegal natural 

 2    gas hookup, if there is an overloaded electrical 

 3    box, if there's hazardous waste on a neighboring 

 4    property, that does not just endanger the 

 5    residents of that property, but it could 

 6    potentially endanger the residents of neighboring 

 7    units or the neighboring properties as well.

 8                 And so it is critically important 

 9    that those who file these complaints do hear back 

10    and are provided notice as to whether that 

11    potentially dangerous situation and problem is 

12    resolved.  

13                 That's what this bill calls for.  

14    Again, it is a minuscule percentage in mailing 

15    literally a postage item in any building 

16    department's budget, certainly in any municipal 

17    budget.  And for that reason, it is worth the 

18    pennies that it would cost.

19                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Madam President, 

20    through you, if the sponsor would continue to 

21    yield.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

23    sponsor yield?

24                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 


                                                               3693

 1    sponsor yields.  

 2                 SENATOR MARTINS:   So in many 

 3    instances people who call and complain with 

 4    regard to a condition on the block -- maybe 

 5    someone hasn't mowed their lawn, whatever the 

 6    case may be -- maybe they left their garbage pail 

 7    out overnight when it was only supposed to come 

 8    out the morning -- they will call and they'll 

 9    make a complaint, and they'd rather not leave 

10    their address or their identifying information, 

11    they would just like the municipality to address 

12    the issue.

13                 How does your bill square away with 

14    that?  Is there an obligation, then, on the 

15    municipality who's receiving the complaint to 

16    insist upon getting an address and a way of 

17    contacting the complainant so as to send out a 

18    certified mailing and comply with the 

19    requirements here?

20                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Most complaint 

21    forms that I've seen do include contact 

22    information.  

23                 And so what this bill calls for I 

24    don't think would lead to, would result in, you 

25    know, any amendments to existing forms.  Maybe 


                                                               3694

 1    there are some that I've not seen around the 

 2    state that don't.  

 3                 But the ones that I've seen do 

 4    include a field for contact information.  Because 

 5    oftentimes not only -- even if a municipality, 

 6    which many if not most do not provide for notice 

 7    of resolution, oftentimes a building department, 

 8    code enforcement officers will need to follow up 

 9    with the complainant for additional information.  

10                 And so I believe that's why they 

11    seek that contact information on those complaint 

12    forms.

13                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Madam President, 

14    through you, if the sponsor would continue to 

15    yield.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

17    sponsor yield?

18                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

19                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

20    sponsor yields.

21                 SENATOR MARTINS:   So are you 

22    familiar with the fact that not every 

23    municipality has a policy requiring a written 

24    complaint form be filled out, and that 

25    oftentimes -- and frankly, probably most of the 


                                                               3695

 1    time -- the complaints actually come in by phone, 

 2    by people who although they have a concern, do 

 3    not want to leave their name, they'd rather 

 4    remain anonymous?  

 5                 And so my question is, is there a 

 6    concern or is there a requirement of this bill, 

 7    since it requires that they be notified in a 

 8    certain way -- certified mail to their address, 

 9    even though they may want to remain anonymous -- 

10    is there a concern or a requirement in this bill 

11    that they have to provide their contact 

12    information?

13                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

14    Madam President, I am aware that some 

15    municipalities have even a hotline, if not 

16    certainly just a general phone number that people 

17    can call in to, to make complaints.  

18                 My understanding is that many of 

19    those municipalities that have that opportunity 

20    to file complaints through nonwritten means do 

21    still request for contact information when 

22    someone does call in.  

23                 Certainly, you know, I think this 

24    bill, if enacted, and the Assembly did pass this 

25    bill for the first time this session, may well 


                                                               3696

 1    lead to building departments collecting contact 

 2    information if they were not already checking 

 3    contact information.  It's a fair question.  

 4                 There's nothing that prevents the 

 5    Secretary, in promulgating regulations, from 

 6    redactions or exemptions from FOIL.  That is 

 7    something that your colleague raised in the 

 8    previous debate that I think is a fair point and 

 9    one that we can work with the Secretary on 

10    following enactment.

11                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Through you, 

12    Madam President, if the sponsor would continue to 

13    yield.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Does the 

15    sponsor yield?

16                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Yes.

17                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 

18    sponsor yields.  

19                 SENATOR MARTINS:   You opened up the 

20    possibility during our discussion here, you know, 

21    and for purposes of creating a record, I want to 

22    be clear.  

23                 And it's important certainly to 

24    people who are out there complaining about 

25    something and a condition in their neighborhood 


                                                               3697

 1    who do not want to leave a name.  

 2                 Would this then prevent the 

 3    municipality from acting upon a complaint where 

 4    the complainant would not leave their name or 

 5    their contact information, and therefore not put 

 6    an obligation on the community to -- or the 

 7    municipality to address that complaint?

 8                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Through you, 

 9    Madam President, no.

10                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Okay.  

11                 Madam President, on the bill.

12                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

13    Martins on the bill.

14                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

15    Senator Skoufis.

16                 So look, the City of Glen Cove, a 

17    $70 million budget, 600 I guess violations or 

18    ordinance violations issued.  I'm glad you picked 

19    Glen Cove.  Great.  The reality is, as I'm sure 

20    everybody in the room knows, Glen Cove is in my 

21    district, so it's pretty convenient.  And kudos  

22    to you, Senator Skoufis, for picking that as 

23    well.

24                 But that doesn't mean that the 

25    number of people who actually filed complaints 


                                                               3698

 1    with regard to those were 600 people.  It could 

 2    literally be thousands of people who are then 

 3    obligated to be put on notice by certified mail.  

 4    It doesn't speak to the multiplier of $6 for 

 5    certified mail.  

 6                 And I assure all of you, and 

 7    certainly the sponsor, that there's nobody in 

 8    municipal government that's sitting on their 

 9    hands waiting for something to do because they 

10    don't have anything to do and they'd like to 

11    occupy their time by filling out certified mail 

12    mailings to people who frankly may not even want 

13    it.

14                 Now, our municipalities are 

15    obligated to do these things, and they will 

16    investigate and they will proceed as they see 

17    fit.  The idea of adding layers of bureaucracy 

18    and cost to our municipalities -- and to what 

19    end?  

20                 And what's most interesting here, 

21    for me, is if they just choose not to.  They're 

22    not going to do it.  They're not going to send 

23    out the certified mail, and somebody will bring 

24    an Article 78 to compel them to do so.  Okay, 

25    that's not a threat, realistically.  


                                                               3699

 1                 So let's understand what it is we're 

 2    doing here, just adding another layer and another 

 3    obligation for someone to send out mailings if 

 4    they get a complaint, there'll be confusion as to 

 5    whether or not they need to get the person's name 

 6    or address in order to put them on notice.  

 7                 And sometimes -- sometimes enough is 

 8    enough.  So it's not about the 600 mailings or 

 9    the 6,000 mailings and the $6 per mailing.  It 

10    really is about what is it that we're trying to 

11    address here?  

12                 Now, if we had heard from the 

13    sponsor, Madam President, that there were 

14    municipalities out there that felt that this was 

15    a good idea and this was the best practice, okay.  

16    But that's not what we heard.  If there were 

17    groups of people out there who stood up and said, 

18    No, this is something that needs to be 

19    addressed -- all right, maybe we could.

20                 But I've got 43 villages and a city 

21    and two towns in my district.  I have never 

22    gotten a request to support something like this.  

23    I, as a former mayor and village official, never 

24    thought that this was even remotely a good idea.  

25                 It's good practice for the community 


                                                               3700

 1    and the building department to maintain regular 

 2    contact with complainants when they want to be 

 3    contacted.  And certainly each municipality has 

 4    the ability to do that.  It's good practice.  

 5    These are residents of the municipality.  They're 

 6    voters.  They're people you want to actually 

 7    engage with.  So we don't need a bill to tell a 

 8    municipality how to engage with their local 

 9    community.

10                 But let's talk about -- let's talk 

11    about the City of New York.  How many complaints 

12    do they receive every year?  To the building 

13    department, think about how many complaints come 

14    through and have to be processed.  You know, we 

15    had the number for Glen Cove, I wonder what the 

16    number would be for the City of New York.  

17                 You know, I hear -- I hear that 

18    there is a shortfall, a budgetary shortfall in 

19    the City of New York, Madam President.  It should 

20    be a concern for everybody.  Billions of dollars 

21    in shortfall in the City of New York.  You know, 

22    I even saw a video recently of the mayor of the 

23    of the City of New York tapping on a lens saying 

24    something about keeping a campaign promise about 

25    taxing the rich.


                                                               3701

 1                 You know, that's interesting, 

 2    because as far as I'm concerned, we here in this 

 3    chamber have yet to vote on a budget.  So I don't 

 4    know where he says he's taxing the rich, but 

 5    maybe he assumes everybody in this chamber has 

 6    already signed off on a tax increase that has 

 7    only been proposed.  I don't know.  We'll see 

 8    what happens when that comes up.  That should be 

 9    a concern for all of us.  

10                 But the cost that that's going to 

11    place on the City of New York to send out 

12    certified mailings, return receipt requested, for 

13    the thousands if not tens or hundreds of 

14    thousands of the complaints that they get, for 

15    all kinds of things -- you know, frankly, when 

16    you have 8 or 9 million people living in a city 

17    and all of those either rental or, you know, 

18    owner-occupied homes, and you have the 

19    opportunity for people to actually file 

20    complaints, it is incredible to me that we 

21    wouldn't consider what the impact would be for a 

22    place like the City of New York.  

23                 Or, you know, let's go down the 

24    line.  Let's talk about the City of Buffalo, 

25    let's talk about the City of Rochester, let's 


                                                               3702

 1    talk about the City of Syracuse or Albany or 

 2    Binghamton or Yonkers and what this is going to 

 3    cost those municipalities who have hundreds of 

 4    thousands of residents or millions of residents 

 5    and how much that's going to cost that 

 6    municipality to actually comply with that.  

 7                 Not only in terms of dollars for 

 8    certified mail, but also in terms of time for 

 9    those people who actually work in those 

10    municipalities and frankly, I guarantee you, are 

11    not sitting on their hands waiting for something 

12    to do.  They're busy, and we're going to take 

13    them away from the work that they're doing and 

14    actually have them filling out certified mail, 

15    return receipts, to what end?  

16                 So somebody may think this not a big 

17    deal, so what?  It's another certified mailing.  

18    We'll just push another obligation on to our 

19    local communities.  But the reality is everything 

20    here provides a cost, takes someone away from 

21    something else that they would otherwise be 

22    doing, and is going to impact all of our 

23    communities.  And again, to what end?  

24                 So I'll be voting no, 

25    Madam President, no surprise there.  But for all 


                                                               3703

 1    of you who are thinking about voting yes, think 

 2    about what it means back home to your local 

 3    communities.  Think about what it means back home 

 4    to your cities.  Think about the additional cost 

 5    and expense and time that's going to be spent 

 6    back home complying with something that actually 

 7    isn't going to move the needle.  Because I assure 

 8    you, most of our communities are already working 

 9    with their local residents and seeing these 

10    complaints through.

11                 So, again, here we are.  

12    Madam President, I'll be voting no.  To our 

13    sponsor, appreciate the discussion.  Thanks for 

14    the effort, but I think it misses the mark.

15                 Thank you, Madam President.

16                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Thank 

17    you, Senator.

18                 Are there any other Senators wishing 

19    to be heard?

20                 Seeing and hearing none, the debate 

21    is closed.

22                 Senator Gianaris.

23                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Madam President, 

24    we have agreed to restore this bill to the 

25    noncontroversial calendar.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

 2    is restored to the noncontroversial calendar.

 3                 Read the last section.

 4                 THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 5    act shall take effect on the 180th day after it 

 6    shall have become a law.

 7                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Call the 

 8    roll.

 9                 (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

11    Skoufis to explain his vote.

12                 SENATOR SKOUFIS:   Thank you very 

13    much, Madam President.  

14                 I appreciate my colleagues for the 

15    debate.

16                 I want to respond to -- my colleague 

17    asked to what end are we doing this, to what end 

18    are we requiring that what amounts to a rounding 

19    error -- again, 0.01 percent of these municipal 

20    budgets, why are we requiring this?  To what end?  

21                 If I'm a neighbor and identify that 

22    the unit next to mine, the single-family house 

23    next to mine has an illegal gas hookup that could 

24    lead to an explosion on my street or in my 

25    apartment building, and I file a complaint, I 


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 1    want to know how that's resolved on behalf of my 

 2    family and myself and the safety of our 

 3    neighborhood, our apartment building, be it what 

 4    it may.

 5                 So that is to the end that we're 

 6    looking to pass this bill.  This is a public 

 7    safety bill.

 8                 I know, you know, there is the lens 

 9    by which some of my colleagues across the aisle 

10    are looking at this legislation through, through 

11    the dollars and cents.  And again, we're talking 

12    cents, not dollars.  But this is a public safety 

13    matter.  There are families who file complaints.  

14    Those complaints are on dangerous matters that 

15    could potentially affect not just folks in that 

16    unit where the complaint is located, but many 

17    others potentially even dozens, if it's an 

18    apartment building.  

19                 That's why I vote yes.  

20                 Thank you, Madam Leader -- Madam 

21    President.

22                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

23    Skoufis to be recorded in the affirmative.

24                 Senator Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to 

25    explain her vote.


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 1                 SENATOR CANZONERI-FITZPATRICK:   

 2    Thank you, Madam President.  

 3                 Unfortunately, this bill should have 

 4    been tailored, then, to address safety concerns.  

 5    Because I'm thinking about the 14 villages that I 

 6    represent, a town, and a city.  And having been a 

 7    former village official, knowing that the 

 8    building department in my hometown is staffed 

 9    with two full-timers and two part-timers -- 

10    thinking about the Hewlett Harbor Village, where 

11    they only have two employees in the entire 

12    incorporated village.  

13                 And now it's not about the cost of 

14    the certified mailing.  It's the cost of the time 

15    of those people that are already burdened with 

16    trying to do so much in so little time, and now 

17    we're adding to their job.  We're taking away 

18    from the review of applications.  We're taking 

19    away from the review of extensions on a home or 

20    other things that they could be doing.

21                 And unfortunately, we are once again 

22    burdening our local municipalities with another 

23    requirement.  So on behalf of all of those people 

24    that I represent, I'm voting in the negative.

25                 Thank you, Madam President.


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 1                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 2    Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick to be recorded in the 

 3    negative.

 4                 Senator Martins to explain his vote.

 5                 SENATOR MARTINS:   Thank you, 

 6    Madam President.  

 7                 I feel compelled to stand to talk 

 8    about the concept of this being a public safety 

 9    bill, as if somehow sending a notice to a 

10    complainant actually is going to make the 

11    building department and the building officials do 

12    their job.

13                 No.  They're going to take the 

14    complaint, they're going to act on the complaint, 

15    regardless of whether a mailing goes to somebody 

16    by certified mail.  This has nothing to do with 

17    enforcing public safety.  This has everything to 

18    do with adding bureaucratic layers.  

19                 Because, Madam President, I assure 

20    you that that municipality, from the mayor on 

21    down to every person who works in that 

22    municipality, is going to ensure that that 

23    complaint gets the attention it deserves, 

24    including sending people out there to issue the 

25    violation.


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 1                 Notice, this bill requires that the 

 2    notice go out when the building violation is 

 3    issued.  So that issue has already been taken 

 4    care of.  The municipality has issued the 

 5    violation.  This is an afterthought.  The idea 

 6    that this is a public safety bill is a farce.  

 7                 I vote no.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 9    Martins to be recorded in the negative.

10                 Senator Mayer to explain her vote.

11                 SENATOR MAYER:   Thank you, 

12    Madam President.  

13                 And I want to thank my colleague 

14    Senator Skoufis for this.  

15                 To me, this addresses a fundamental 

16    complaint of our constituents:  Government does 

17    not work for me.  No one is worried about me.  I 

18    made a complaint based on a fear of something 

19    happening or a legitimate safety complaint.  I 

20    made a complaint to my local municipality, and I 

21    want to know what happened.  I want to know what 

22    the decision is.  And no one is willing to tell 

23    me.  

24                 This says:  Municipality, this is 

25    what people expect of their government.  When 


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 1    they make a complaint, they want to know the 

 2    resolution, the determination.  And it makes a 

 3    lot of sense that a notice would be sent to them 

 4    providing that information.

 5                 Thank you for doing this for our 

 6    constituents.  

 7                 I vote aye.

 8                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 9    Mayer to be recorded in the affirmative.

10                 Senator Lanza to explain his vote.

11                 SENATOR LANZA:   Madam President, I 

12    vote aye.  

13                 (Laughter.)

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

15    Lanza to be recorded in the affirmative.

16                 Senator Helming to explain her vote.

17                 SENATOR HELMING:   Thank you, 

18    Madam President.  I too will be voting aye on 

19    this bill.  

20                 In my district, I have some of the 

21    largest populations of people living in 

22    manufactured homes, et cetera.  My office often 

23    gets calls for assistance because they register 

24    complaints -- serious, as was said, public safety 

25    complaints, they have issues, and they never get 


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 1    a response.  This will help people get that 

 2    response that they, as has already been said, 

 3    they deserve to hear back.

 4                 So I vote yes.  Thank you.

 5                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   Senator 

 6    Helming to be recorded in the affirmative.

 7                 Announce the results.

 8                 THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 9    Calendar 236, voting in the negative are 

10    Senators Borrello, Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick, Chan, 

11    Martins, Mattera, Rhoads, Stec, Tedisco, Walczyk, 

12    Weber and Weik.

13                 Ayes, 47.  Nays, 11.

14                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The bill 

15    is passed.

16                 Senator Gianaris, that completes the 

17    reading of today's calendar.

18                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

19    Madam President.  

20                 I have a motion here.  On behalf of 

21    Senator Gounardes, on page 22 I offer the 

22    following amendments to Calendar 324, 

23    Senate Print 8839, and ask that said bill retain 

24    its place on Third Reading Calendar.

25                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   The 


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 1    amendments are received, and the bill will retain 

 2    its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

 3                 Senator Gianaris.

 4                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   Is there any 

 5    further business at the desk?

 6                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   There is 

 7    no further business at the desk.

 8                 SENATOR GIANARIS:   I move to 

 9    adjourn until Monday, April 27th, at 3:00 p.m., 

10    with the intervening days being legislative days.

11                 ACTING PRESIDENT PERSAUD:   On 

12    motion, the Senate stands adjourned until Monday, 

13    April 27th, at 3:00 p.m., with intervening days 

14    being legislative days.

15                 (Whereupon, at 1:28 p.m., the Senate 

16    adjourned.)

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