Regular Session - June 3, 2013

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 1               NEW YORK STATE SENATE

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 4              THE STENOGRAPHIC RECORD

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 9                  ALBANY, NEW YORK

10                    June 3, 2013

11                     4:21 p.m.

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14                  REGULAR SESSION

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18  SENATOR DAVID J. VALESKY, Acting President

19  FRANCIS W. PATIENCE, Secretary

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 1               P R O C E E D I N G S

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 3   Senate will come to order.  

 4                I ask everyone present to please 

 5   rise and recite with me the Pledge of 

 6   Allegiance.

 7                (Whereupon, the assemblage recited 

 8   the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.)

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   With us 

10   today to an offer an invocation is Reverend Dale 

11   Jensen, who is the senior pastor at Saratoga 

12   Abundant Life Church in Saratoga Springs.  

13                REVEREND JENSEN:   Can we pray?  

14                Almighty God, we pray that Your 

15   hand would be upon this Senate assembly.  I pray 

16   Your blessing upon each individual Senator.  

17                Lord, I know all the decisions that 

18   need to be made here are beyond any human 

19   understanding, so I ask that You would grace 

20   every single Senator with the ability to see the 

21   right and the truth and the things that are best 

22   for this state.  

23                Lord, I pray for great counsel for 

24   each one of the Senators.  Lord, I know counsel 

25   makes a difference in any one of our lives, so I 


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 1   pray for great counselors in each one of their 

 2   lives.  

 3                Lord, I pray for their spouses.  I 

 4   pray a blessing over their spouses as they give 

 5   their time and their energy to the state.  I 

 6   pray, God, that You put peace in their homes.  I 

 7   pray, Father, for their children.  I pray, God, 

 8   a blessing and protection for their whole 

 9   family.  

10                And, Lord, I pray that for every 

11   single Senator in this place they might sense 

12   Your presence, they might sense Your awareness, 

13   and they might sense Your grace to fill every 

14   need that they have.  And I pray it in Jesus' 

15   name.  

16                Amen.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

18   reading of the Journal.  

19                The Secretary will read.

20                THE SECRETARY:   In Senate, Sunday, 

21   June 2nd, the Senate met pursuant to 

22   adjournment.  The Journal of Saturday, June 1st, 

23   was read and approved.  On motion, Senate 

24   adjourned.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Without 


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 1   objection, the Journal stands approved as read.

 2                Presentation of petitions.

 3                Messages from the Assembly.

 4                Messages from the Governor.

 5                Reports of standing committees.

 6                Reports of select committees.

 7                Communications and reports from 

 8   state officers.

 9                Motions and resolutions.

10                Senator Libous.

11                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

12   believe there's a resolution previously adopted 

13   at the desk, Number 301, by Senator 

14   DeFrancisco.  It was adopted on January 29th.  

15   Could you please read it in its entirety and 

16   then call on Senator DeFrancisco.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

18   Secretary will read.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Legislative 

20   Resolution Number 301, by Senator DeFrancisco, 

21   congratulating the CNY United Power Soccer Team 

22   upon the occasion of winning the 2012 National 

23   Power Soccer Tournament.  

24                "WHEREAS, Excellence in competitive  

25   team sports is achieved only through strenuous 


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 1   practice, determination and strategic planning, 

 2   nurtured by dedicated coaching; and 

 3                "WHEREAS, The people of the State of 

 4   New York take great pride in honoring those 

 5   talented individuals who distinguish themselves 

 6   and their community through outstanding team 

 7   spirit, character, and athletic performance; and 

 8                "WHEREAS, Attendant to such concern, 

 9   and in full accord with its long-standing 

10   traditions, this Legislative Body is justly proud  

11   to hereby recognize and congratulate CNY United 

12   upon the occasion of winning the 2012 National 

13   Power Soccer Tournament; and 

14                "WHEREAS, CNY United, a power soccer 

15   team in Central New York, was founded in 2005; 

16   the 2012 team was comprised of these members:  

17   Skyler Canute, Andrew Cunningham, Ryan 

18   Charboneau, Tony Reuter, Peyton Sefick, Hunter  

19   Schaffer, Hali Whyland, Morgan Reakes, Helena 

20   Schmidt, Sarah Hamlin, and Anthony Guarino; and 

21                "WHEREAS, Power soccer, which is  

22   played by athletes in motorized wheelchairs, 

23   requires a great deal of teamwork, court sense, 

24   patience, vision, and timing; and 

25                "WHEREAS, After months of rigorous 


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 1   practice and travel for out-of-state  

 2   competitions, CNY United qualified for the 2012 

 3   National Power Soccer Tournament, which was held 

 4   in Fort Wayne, Indiana, on July 15, 2012; and 

 5                "WHEREAS, CNY United finished 4-0-1 

 6   in the 2012 National Power Soccer Tournament, 

 7   after beating the home team of Fort Wayne with a 

 8   score of 3-1 during the tournament's championship 

 9   game; and 

10                "WHEREAS, CNY United prevailed 

11   victorious during the 2012 National Power Soccer 

12   Tournament due to the unbeatable combination of 

13   outstanding talent, sportsmanship, team effort, 

14   and perseverance; and 

15                "WHEREAS, The notable efforts 

16   displayed by CNY United are due in great part to 

17   the dedicated forces of Head Coach Jim Sefick and 

18   Assistant Coach Tom Cunningham, along with 

19   Equipment Manager Ken Keppel, Mark Charboneau, 

20   and Alis Sefick; and 

21                "WHEREAS, Members of CNY United have 

22   also received the loyal support of family, 

23   friends and the community at large throughout the 

24   entire season; now, therefore, be it 

25                "RESOLVED, That this Legislative 


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 1   Body pause in its deliberations to recognize and 

 2   congratulate CNY United upon the occasion of  

 3   winning the 2012 National Power Soccer 

 4   Tournament; the travel team members are Skyler 

 5   Canute, Andrew Cunningham, Ryan Charboneau, 

 6   Tony Reuter, and Peyton Sefick; and be it further 

 7                "RESOLVED, That copies of this 

 8   resolution, suitably engrossed, be transmitted to 

 9   the athletes and coaches of CNY United."

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

11   DeFrancisco on the previously adopted resolution.

12                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Thank you.  

13                I'm pleased to welcome the great 

14   national champion CNY United Power Soccer Team.  

15   And they're right here by the clock with their 

16   great coach, Jim Sefick, and some of the 

17   relatives are up in the gallery proudly watching 

18   their team today in this Senate chamber.

19                This team has gone all over the 

20   country to play power soccer, and they were 

21   successful in winning the national championship.  

22   But that's not something any of you would be 

23   surprised about, because we win national 

24   championships in Central New York all the time.  

25   This is just another one in the long line of 


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 1   national championships that we are responsible 

 2   for.

 3                We're really proud of all of you.  

 4   It was a wonderful effort.  And I've gone to a 

 5   practice.  I wouldn't get in one of those chairs 

 6   because some of these guys are ruthless.  They're 

 7   banging the chairs against each other.  I was 

 8   afraid I was going to get hurt on the sidelines.  

 9   This is a contact sport, believe me.  

10                So we welcome you all here today, 

11   congratulate you, and best of success in the 

12   future.

13                Thank you.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:    

15   Congratulations to the members of the Central 

16   New York United Power Soccer Team on the occasion 

17   of winning the national championship, and we 

18   welcome you here to Albany and hope you enjoy 

19   your day.

20                (Standing ovation.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

22   Libous.

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

24   Mr. President.

25                I believe Senator Gianaris and 


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 1   Senator Carlucci both have motions.  So however 

 2   you want to handle it.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Very 

 4   good.  

 5                Senator Gianaris.

 6                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

 7   Mr. President.  

 8                On behalf of Senator Latimer, on 

 9   page 27 I offer the following amendments to 

10   Calendar 231, Senate Print 2122, and ask that 

11   said bill retain its place on Third Reading 

12   Calendar.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

14   amendments are received.  The bill will retain 

15   its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

16                Senator Carlucci.

17                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Mr. President, I 

18   wish to call up your bill, Print Number 2170, 

19   recalled from the Assembly, which is now at the 

20   desk.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

22   Secretary will read.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   180, by Senator Valesky, Senate Print 2170, an 

25   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 2   Carlucci.

 3                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Mr. President, I 

 4   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

 5   bill was passed.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 7   Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

11   Carlucci.

12                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Mr. President, I 

13   now offer the following amendments.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

15   amendments are received.

16                Senator Libous.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

18   Senator Martins, Mr. President, on page 46 I 

19   offer the following amendments to Calendar Number 

20   662, Senate Print 1987, and ask that said bill 

21   retain its place on the Third Reading Calendar.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

23   amendments are received.

24                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

25   Senator Golden, I call up his bill, 3754, 


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 1   recalled from the Assembly, which is now at the 

 2   desk.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 4   Secretary will read.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 6   175, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 3754, an act 

 7   to amend the Public Housing Law.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 9   Libous.

10                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I now move to 

11   reconsider the vote by which this bill was 

12   passed.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

14   Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

15                (The Secretary called the roll.)

16                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

18   Libous.

19                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

20   offer up the following amendments.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

22   amendments are received.

23                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

24   Senator Griffo, Mr. President, I call up his 

25   bill, 2233, recalled from the Assembly, which is 


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 1   now at the desk.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 3   Secretary will read.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   267, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 2233, an act 

 6   to amend the State Technology Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 8   Libous.

 9                SENATOR LIBOUS:   I move to 

10   reconsider the vote by which this bill was 

11   passed.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

13   Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

14                (The Secretary called the roll.)

15                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

17   Libous.

18                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

19   now offer up the following amendments.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Those 

21   amendments are received.

22                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

23   behalf of Senator Young, I call up her bill, 

24   Senate Print 3923A, recalled from the Assembly, 

25   which is now at the desk.


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 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 2   Secretary will read.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   340, by Senator Young, Senate Print 3923A, an act 

 5   to amend the Highway Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 7   Libous.

 8                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 9   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

10   bill was passed.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

12   Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

16   Libous.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

18   offer up the following amendments.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

20   amendments are received.

21                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

22   Senator Golden, I call up his bill, 4422A, 

23   recalled from the Assembly, which is now at the 

24   desk.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 


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 1   Secretary will read.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   418, by Senator Golden, Senate Print 4422A, an 

 4   act to amend the Executive Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 6   Libous.

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 8   move to reconsider the vote by which this bill 

 9   was passed.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

11   Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

15   Libous.

16                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

17   offer up the following amendments.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Those 

19   amendments are received.

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, on 

21   behalf of Senator Maziarz, I wish to call up his 

22   bill, Senate Print 1122, recalled from the 

23   Assembly, which is now at the desk.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

25   Secretary will read.


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 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   573, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 1122, an 

 3   act to amend the Public Officers Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 5   Libous.

 6                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 7   now move to reconsider the vote by which this 

 8   bill was passed.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

10   Secretary will call the roll on reconsideration.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.

13                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

14   offer up the following amendments.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

16   amendments are received.

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Thank you, 

18   Mr. President.

19                And I have a number of amendments to 

20   make here.  Let me start, Mr. President.  I want 

21   to offer amendments to the following Third 

22   Reading Calendar bills.  

23                The first one is on behalf of 

24   Senator Ritchie, page 34, Calendar Number 407, 

25   Senate Print 4302.


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 1                On behalf of Senator Zeldin, 

 2   page 38, Calendar Number 490, Senate Print 

 3   4132A.  

 4                On behalf of Senator LaValle, 

 5   page 44, Calendar Number 617, Senate Print 2006.

 6                On behalf of Senator Gallivan, 

 7   page 23, Calendar Number 74, Senate Print 583C.  

 8                On behalf of Senator Felder, page 

 9   44, Calendar 624, Senate Print 4529A.  

10                On behalf of Senator Felder, 

11   page 45, Calendar Number 644, Senate Print 4880.

12                And the most important one, on 

13   behalf of Senator Libous, on page 27 -- that was 

14   a joke.  I just wondered if everybody was 

15   listening.

16                (Laughter.)

17                SENATOR LIBOUS:   -- on page 27, 

18   Calendar 208, Senate Print 4191A.  

19                Mr. President, I now move that these 

20   bills retain their place on the Third Reading 

21   Calendar, please.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   All 

23   amendments have been received; all bills shall 

24   retain their place on the Third Reading 

25   Calendar.  


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 1                Senator Libous.

 2                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

 3   believe members are about to take their seats so 

 4   that we could have order in the chamber, and we 

 5   will now do the reading of the noncontroversial 

 6   calendar.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   I would 

 8   ask all Senators to be seated so that we may 

 9   proceed with the noncontroversial reading of 

10   today's calendar.  

11                The Secretary will read.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 36, 

13   by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 1884, an act to 

14   amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect on the first of July.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Announce 

23   the results.

24                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

25   Calendar Number 36, those recorded in the 


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 1   negative are Senators Espaillat, Gipson, 

 2   Hassell-Thompson, Hoylman, Krueger, Marcellino, 

 3   Rivera, Sanders, Serrano, Stavisky and Tkaczyk.

 4                Ayes, 50.  Nays, 11.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   102, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 3806C, an 

 9   act to amend the Energy Law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

11   last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

13   act shall take effect immediately.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

15   roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 60.  Nays, 

18   1.  Senator Espaillat recorded in the negative.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

20   is passed.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   148, by Senator Larkin, Senate Print 274A, an act 

23   to amend the Retirement and Social Security Law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

25   last section.


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 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   284, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 3059B, an 

11   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15   act shall take effect immediately.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

20   Calendar Number 284, those recorded in the 

21   negative are Senators Espaillat, Gipson, Kennedy, 

22   and Serrano.  

23                Ayes, 57.  Nays, 4.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

25   is passed.


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 1                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 2   318, by Senator LaValle, Senate Print 1555, an 

 3   act to amend the Education Law.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 5   last section.

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 7   act shall take effect immediately.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 9   roll.

10                (The Secretary called the roll.)

11                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

13   is passed.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

15   326, by Senator Klein, Senate Print 2369A, an act 

16   to amend the Local Finance Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

20   act shall take effect January 1, 2014.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 


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 1   is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   327, by Senator Zeldin, Senate Print 2925B, an 

 4   act to authorize.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 8   act shall take effect immediately.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

13   Calendar 327, those recorded in the negative are 

14   Senators Bonacic, Larkin and O'Mara.  

15                Ayes, 59.  Nays, 3.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

17   is passed.

18                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

19   331, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 4122, an act 

20   in relation to a certain agreement.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

22   last section.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

24   act shall take effect immediately.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 


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 1   roll.

 2                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

 4   1.  Senator Krueger recorded in the negative.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   338, by Senator Nozzolio, Senate Print 3298A, an 

 9   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

11   last section.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

13   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

15   roll.

16                (The Secretary called the roll.)

17                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

18   1.  Senator Gipson recorded in the negative.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

20   is passed.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   367, by Senator Ball, Senate Print 2801, an act 

23   to amend the Election Law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

25   last section.


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 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 7   Gianaris to explain his vote.

 8                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Thank you, 

 9   Mr. President.  

10                This bill purports to allow people 

11   to register to vote while applying for a hunting 

12   or fishing license.  I'm certainly not against 

13   allowing people easier access to voter 

14   registration.  The reason I'm voting in the 

15   negative on this bill is for two reasons.  

16                Number one, I have legislation that 

17   would open up interactions with every state 

18   agency to applications for voter registration, 

19   not just to a select few that may cater to a 

20   certain constituency and not others.  And I think 

21   a uniform approach would be better served.

22                The second reason is because it's my 

23   understanding that some of these licenses are 

24   available from private entities.  And I think the 

25   idea that we would allow people to register to 


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 1   vote with nongovernmental entities, with 

 2   employees who may not be trained in how to 

 3   properly handle or help people register to vote, 

 4   is problematic on many levels.  

 5                So for those reasons I'll be voting 

 6   in the negative.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 8   Gianaris to be recorded in the negative.

 9                Senator Krueger, do you wish to 

10   explain your vote?  

11                SENATOR KRUEGER:   Thank you.  

12                I certainly share Senator Gianaris's 

13   concerns.  I would highlight if this bill ensured 

14   that voter registration was taken with licenses 

15   for hunting and fishing only through government 

16   offices, I would have no problem with it.  

17                But it actually sets up a scenario 

18   where over 1400 retail sites would actually be 

19   required to accept voter registration -- and 

20   again, as I believe was said, and their employees 

21   required to assist.  

22                And so I am a strong believer in 

23   simplifying voter registration anywhere and 

24   everywhere, but I don't actually think we should 

25   have an unfunded mandate on private companies and 


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 1   their employees to have to do government's work.  

 2                So I'll be voting no, 

 3   Mr. President.  Thank you.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 5   Krueger to be recorded in the negative.

 6                Announce the results.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

 8   Calendar Number 367, those recorded in the 

 9   negative are Senators Avella, Gianaris, Hoylman, 

10   Krueger, Montgomery, Parker, Rivera, Serrano and 

11   Stavisky.  

12                Ayes, 53.  Nays, 9.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

14   is passed.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

16   406, by Senator Ritchie, Senate Print 4299A, an 

17   act to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

19   last section.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

21   act shall take effect immediately.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

23   roll.

24                (The Secretary called the roll.)

25                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 


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 1   1.  Senator Espaillat recorded in the negative.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 3   is passed.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 5   408, by Senator Gallivan, Senate Print 96, an act 

 6   to amend the Executive Law.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 8   last section.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

10   act shall take effect immediately.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

12   roll.

13                (The Secretary called the roll.)

14                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   434, by Senator Carlucci, Senate Print 3280 --

19                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Lay it aside.

20                SENATOR GIANARIS:   Lay it aside.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

22   is laid aside.

23                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

24   439, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 774A, an 

25   act to amend the General Business Law.


                                                               2771

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 2   last section.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 4   act shall take effect on the 30th day.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 6   roll.

 7                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

10   is passed.

11                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

12   462, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 3563, an act 

13   to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

15   last section.

16                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

17   act shall take effect immediately.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

19   roll.

20                (The Secretary called the roll.)

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Announce 

22   the results.

23                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24   Calendar Number 462, those recorded in the 

25   negative are Senators Adams, Espaillat, Gianaris, 


                                                               2772

 1   Gipson, Hassell-Thompson, Hoylman, Kennedy, 

 2   Krueger, Montgomery, Parker, Rivera, Sanders, 

 3   Serrano and Stavisky.

 4                Ayes, 48.  Nays, 14.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 6   is passed.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 8   465, by Senator Young, Senate Print 4356, an act 

 9   to amend the Soil and Water Conservation 

10   Districts Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

12   last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14   act shall take effect immediately.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

16   roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

20   is passed.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   479, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 4414, an act 

23   to amend the Public Health Law.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

25   last section.


                                                               2773

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 8   is passed.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   485, by Senator Maziarz, Senate Print 1063, an 

11   act to amend the County Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

13   last section.

14                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

15   act shall take effect on the 180th day.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

17   roll.

18                (The Secretary called the roll.)

19                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

21   is passed.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

23   506, by Senator Griffo, Senate Print 3494, an act 

24   to amend the Highway Law.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 


                                                               2774

 1   last section.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 3   act shall take effect immediately.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 5   roll.

 6                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   553, by Senator Ball, Senate Print 2306, an act 

12   to amend the Executive Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

22   is passed.

23                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

24   Calendar Number 553:  Ayes, 62.  Nays, 1.  

25   Senator Montgomery recorded in the negative.


                                                               2775

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 2   is passed.

 3                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 4   556, by Senator Seward, Senate Print 2895, an act 

 5   to amend the Insurance Law.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 7   last section.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

 9   act shall take effect January 1, 2014.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

11   roll.

12                (The Secretary called the roll.)

13                THE SECRETARY:   In relation to 

14   Calendar Number 556, those recorded in the 

15   negative are Senators Gipson, Hoylman, Krueger, 

16   Montgomery, Perkins and Sanders.  

17                Ayes, 57.  Nays, 6.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

19   is passed.

20                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

21   567, by Senator Avella, Senate Print 4544B, an 

22   act to amend the Environmental Conservation Law.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

24   last section.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 


                                                               2776

 1   act shall take effect on the 120th day.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 3   roll.

 4                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 7   is passed.

 8                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 9   583, by Senator DeFrancisco, Senate Print 553B, 

10   an act to amend the Real Property Tax Law.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

12   last section.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

14   act shall take effect immediately.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

16   roll.

17                (The Secretary called the roll.)

18                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

20   is passed.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

22   584, by Senator Hannon, Senate Print 3476A, an 

23   act authorizing.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

25   last section.


                                                               2777

 1                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 2   act shall take effect immediately.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 4   roll.

 5                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 6                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.  Nays, 

 7   1.  Senator Bonacic recorded in the negative.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

 9   is passed.

10                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

11   648, by Senator Bonacic, Senate Print 1876A, an 

12   act to amend the County Law.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

14   last section.

15                THE SECRETARY:   Section 3.  This 

16   act shall take effect immediately.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

18   roll.

19                (The Secretary called the roll.)

20                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.  Nays, 

21   1.  Senator Krueger recorded in the negative.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

23   is passed.

24                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

25   649, by Senator Klein, Senate Print 2438, an act 


                                                               2778

 1   to amend the Agriculture and Markets Law.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 3   last section.

 4                THE SECRETARY:   Section 6.  This 

 5   act shall take effect on the first of January.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 7   roll.

 8                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

11   is passed.

12                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

13   658, by Senator Grisanti, Senate Print 1604, an 

14   act to amend the Labor Law.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

16   last section.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

18   act shall take effect immediately.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

20   roll.

21                (The Secretary called the roll.)

22                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 61.  Nays, 

23   2.  Senators DeFrancisco and Gipson recorded in 

24   the negative.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 


                                                               2779

 1   is passed.

 2                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

 3   678, by Senator Fuschillo, Senate Print 739, an 

 4   act to amend the Vehicle and Traffic Law.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 6   last section.

 7                THE SECRETARY:   Section 4.  This 

 8   act shall take effect on the 90th day.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

10   roll.

11                (The Secretary called the roll.)

12                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 59.  Nays, 

13   4.  Senators Hassell-Thompson, Montgomery, Parker 

14   and Perkins recorded in the negative.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

16   is passed.

17                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

18   730, by Senator Addabbo, Senate Print 3740, an 

19   act to amend the Penal Law.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

21   last section.

22                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

23   act shall take effect on the first of November.

24                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

25   roll.


                                                               2780

 1                (The Secretary called the roll.)

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 3   DeFrancisco to explain his vote.

 4                SENATOR DeFRANCISCO:   Yes, I'm 

 5   going to vote no.  Not because I want to allow 

 6   people to falsely solicit donations; my only 

 7   point is that the law as it exists right now 

 8   already prohibits that type of activity.  

 9                If you look at the sentence above 

10   the new sentence in the bill:  "Engages in a 

11   scheme constituting a systematic ongoing course 

12   of conduct with intent to defraud more than one 

13   person or persons," and it goes on.  And I just 

14   simply believe from a technical standpoint, 

15   falsely soliciting donations fits in that broad 

16   definition.  

17                So that's the reason I'm voting no.

18                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

19   DeFrancisco to be recorded in the negative.  

20                Announce the results.

21                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 62.  Nays, 

22   1.  Senator DeFrancisco recorded in the negative.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

24   is passed.

25                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 


                                                               2781

 1   753, by Senator Young, Senate Print 2679A, an act 

 2   to amend the General Municipal Law.

 3                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

 4   last section.

 5                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

 6   act shall take effect immediately.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

 8   roll.

 9                (The Secretary called the roll.)

10                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

11                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

12   is passed.

13                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

14   804, by Senator Serrano, Senate Print 918, an act 

15   to amend the Parks, Recreation and Historic 

16   Preservation Law.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Read the 

18   last section.

19                THE SECRETARY:   Section 2.  This 

20   act shall take effect immediately.

21                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Call the 

22   roll.

23                (The Secretary called the roll.)

24                THE SECRETARY:   Ayes, 63.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 


                                                               2782

 1   is passed.

 2                Senator Libous, that completes the 

 3   noncontroversial reading of the calendar.

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, at 

 5   this time can we do the controversial reading.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 7   Secretary will ring the bells.

 8                The Secretary will read.

 9                THE SECRETARY:   Calendar Number 

10   434, by Senator Carlucci, Senate Print 3280, an 

11   act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

13   Stavisky.

14                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Explanation, 

15   please.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

17   Carlucci, an explanation has been requested by 

18   Senator Stavisky.

19                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Thank you.  

20                This piece of legislation is an 

21   important piece of legislation to really bring 

22   the Mental Hygiene Law into the 21st century, 

23   give much needed flexibility to hospitals to make 

24   sure that when it is needed to admit someone to a 

25   psychiatric center, that a nurse practitioner, a 


                                                               2783

 1   psychiatric nurse practitioner acting within 

 2   their scope, can do that.  

 3                A psychiatric nurse practitioner 

 4   already has the ability to diagnose, to treat, to 

 5   prescribe atypical antipsychotic medications.  So 

 6   this is adding flexibility, bringing the law into 

 7   the 21st century.  And that's it.

 8                Thank you.  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

10   Stavisky.

11                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Will the Senator 

12   yield?  

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

14   Carlucci, do you yield?  

15                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

17   sponsor yields.

18                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Mr. President, 

19   through you.  

20                This was a product of the Committee 

21   on Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities, 

22   and yet much of the bill pertains to the scope of 

23   practice.  Shouldn't this have been heard by the 

24   Committee on Higher Education?  

25                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Mr. President,  


                                                               2784

 1   this bill only amends the Mental Hygiene Law.  It 

 2   does not change the scope of practice.  This is 

 3   fully allowing nurse practitioners to act within 

 4   their scope of practice.

 5                SENATOR STAVISKY:   If the Senator 

 6   would continue to yield.

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 8   Carlucci?

 9                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

11   sponsor yields.

12                SENATOR STAVISKY:   What is the 

13   current process for voluntary and involuntary 

14   commitment of patients?  

15                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   The current 

16   process for voluntary and involuntary admission 

17   is that a physician -- psychiatrist, 99 percent 

18   of the time -- would have to submit a medical 

19   certification.  Therefore, then the director of 

20   the facility where they're being submitted would 

21   have to have another physician examine that 

22   patient to determine what their need is to keep 

23   them on an involuntary basis.

24                SENATOR STAVISKY:   If the Senator 

25   would continue to yield.


                                                               2785

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 2   Carlucci, do you yield continue to yield?

 3                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

 4                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 5   sponsor yields.

 6                SENATOR STAVISKY:   If the person -- 

 7   and I'm not talking about a voluntary commitment, 

 8   because I think that's a totally different 

 9   issue.  I'm talking about the involuntary 

10   commitment.  Generally, wouldn't you agree that 

11   patients are taken to the emergency room?  

12                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Mr. President, 

13   yes, in many cases there are situations where 

14   people are going to emergency rooms.  And this is 

15   where we need that flexibility, to make sure that 

16   we have quality patient care.  

17                We've seen a decrease in the level 

18   of psychiatrists around the state, and that's why 

19   we want to make sure that these psychiatric nurse 

20   practitioners that are acting in their scope have 

21   that ability to admit someone so they're not just 

22   staying in an emergency room for an undue amount 

23   of time.

24                SENATOR STAVISKY:   If the Senator 

25   would continue to yield.


                                                               2786

 1                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 2   Carlucci?

 3                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes, I continue 

 4   to yield.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 6   sponsor yields.

 7                SENATOR STAVISKY:   If they are 

 8   taken to the emergency room, generally the 

 9   emergency rooms have two psychiatrists available 

10   because two psychiatrists are required for the 

11   commitment proceedings; is that correct?

12                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Well, that would 

13   be the process that we would need the two 

14   physicians to sign off to admit them.  However, 

15   this is filling the need in the cases where there 

16   are not two psychiatrists on staff.

17                SENATOR STAVISKY:   If the Senator 

18   would continue to yield.

19                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

20   Carlucci, do you continue to yield?

21                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

23   sponsor yields.

24                SENATOR STAVISKY:   If this bill 

25   were enacted and a nurse practitioner can sign 


                                                               2787

 1   the necessary papers for an involuntary 

 2   commitment, aren't you opening up that 

 3   institution and the healthcare professionals to 

 4   grounds for a legal challenge on taking away 

 5   someone's civil rights?  

 6                In other words, a civil commitment 

 7   is a very serious proceeding.  And there have 

 8   been statutes and court cases involving the 

 9   entire civil commitment proceedings.

10                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yeah, I would 

11   disagree with that.  

12                This does not change the scope of 

13   practice for the nurse practitioner.  It still 

14   has the safeguards for the adequacy of counsel.  

15   The hearings that would be involved are still in 

16   place.  And this law does nothing to change that, 

17   to make sure that those safeguards are in place.

18                SENATOR STAVISKY:   If the Senator 

19   would continue to yield.

20                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

21   Carlucci.

22                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

23                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

24   sponsor continues to yield.

25                SENATOR STAVISKY:   That wasn't my 


                                                               2788

 1   question.  My question was you're changing the 

 2   whole civil commitment proceeding and opening 

 3   both the healthcare professionals and the 

 4   institution to a court case.

 5                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   No, I would 

 6   disagree with that.  This does not change the 

 7   proceeding.  

 8                It does one simple change to the 

 9   Mental Hygiene Law in allowing nurse 

10   practitioners to act within their full scope of 

11   practice.

12                SENATOR STAVISKY:   One last 

13   question.

14                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

15   Carlucci?

16                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   I yield.

17                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

18   sponsor yields.

19                SENATOR STAVISKY:   What exactly can 

20   the nurse practitioner do in terms of diagnosis?

21                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Well, right here 

22   I have the law in front of me.  "The practice of 

23   registered professional nursing by a nurse 

24   practitioner, certified under Section 6910 of 

25   this article, may include the diagnosis of 


                                                               2789

 1   illness and physical conditions and the 

 2   performance of therapeutic and corrective 

 3   measures within the specialty area of practice, 

 4   in collaboration with a licensed physician 

 5   qualified to collaborate in the diagnosis 

 6   involved."

 7                SENATOR STAVISKY:   I'm sorry, then 

 8   there's one more question I have.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

10   Carlucci, do you yield?  

11                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

13   sponsor yields.

14                SENATOR STAVISKY:   It says in 

15   collaboration with a licensed psychiatrist.  But 

16   if you've got a licensed psychiatrist, why do you 

17   need the nurse practitioner?

18                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Right.  And 

19   you're exactly right, this does not change the 

20   licensed physician qualified to collaborate.  It 

21   doesn't change that at all.  

22                What this does is add flexibility in 

23   the cases where we have statistics that show a 

24   decrease in acting psychiatrists in New York 

25   State, and where we do not have two psychiatrists 


                                                               2790

 1   on staff at an ER particularly.  This bill would 

 2   be very helpful in that case to deliver quality 

 3   care that New Yorkers deserve.

 4                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Thank you, 

 5   Senator Carlucci, for your explanation.  

 6                On the bill, Mr. President.  

 7                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 8   Stavisky on the bill.

 9                SENATOR STAVISKY:   Yes.  The words 

10   "in collaboration" are part of the statute.  

11   And if the psychiatrists are there to offer the 

12   collaboration -- because you can't have a 

13   psychiatrist in Buffalo collaborating with a 

14   nurse practitioner in Riverhead.  Therefore, it 

15   seems to me that you are creating a potential 

16   problem.  

17                I think when you take away 

18   somebody's civil rights and involuntarily commit 

19   that individual to a hospital, that is a very 

20   serious proceeding and I think it should require 

21   the two psychiatrists.  I have no problem with 

22   the voluntary commitment, but I have a serious 

23   problem with the involuntary commitment.  

24                I vote no.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 


                                                               2791

 1   Hannon.

 2                SENATOR HANNON:   Thank you, 

 3   Mr. President.  

 4                Senator Carlucci, I'm not going to 

 5   ask you questions, but I have some doubts about 

 6   this -- not from your committee standpoint on 

 7   mental health, but rather from health.  Because 

 8   we're dealing with the nurse practitioners.  

 9                We're dealing with the nurse 

10   practitioners.  And we've been really looking at 

11   how to expand folks who are auxiliary parts but 

12   necessary parts and important parts of the 

13   healthcare system, dealing with physician's 

14   assistants and nurse practitioners.  

15                And when it came down to 

16   examination, it's been tangentially related to 

17   this discussion from the Health Committee, I know 

18   it's been going on in the Higher Education 

19   Committee.  And usually when we're dealing with 

20   scope of practice, they primarily go through 

21   Higher Education.  

22                Part of the discussion I've been 

23   involved with and have been with a number of 

24   units of physician practices or organized 

25   medicine -- not necessarily just the Medical 


                                                               2792

 1   Society, but internists or family practitioners 

 2   or primary care practitioners -- has been the 

 3   greater involvement of nurse practitioners.  

 4                But there are nurse practitioners 

 5   and there are nurse practitioners.  Some of them 

 6   have just graduated, and some of them have been 

 7   practicing for a number of years.  Some of them 

 8   are qualified to do things to stand in the stead 

 9   of the physician that they're assisting or 

10   they're working in collaboration with, and some 

11   of them are not there yet.  

12                And I think when you start to marry 

13   the policies that are embodied in this bill, 

14   which would be the qualifications of the nurse 

15   practitioner and the questions in regard to 

16   psychiatric judgments and questions in regard to 

17   being committed, I think we need to take another 

18   look at this and try to figure out how there 

19   could be a greater compromise.  

20                So I mean I think some people have 

21   some doubts because of other discussions, namely 

22   in the medical field, but I have doubts and think 

23   that we should go back and take a longer look at 

24   this and leave this for another day.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Thank 


                                                               2793

 1   you, Senator Hannon.

 2                Senator Rivera.

 3                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 4   Mr. President.  If the sponsor would yield for a 

 5   few questions.

 6                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 7   Carlucci, do you yield?

 8                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

10   sponsor yields.

11                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you.  

12                Through you, Mr. President.  Could 

13   the sponsor tell me how he defines scope of 

14   practice?  

15                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Scope of 

16   practice is defined in the law, and that's how I 

17   would define it, what is specified in Education 

18   Law.

19                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

20   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

21   yield.

22                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

23   Carlucci, do you yield?  

24                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

25                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 


                                                               2794

 1   sponsor yields.

 2                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

 3   Mr. President, do you have that definition 

 4   available, by any chance?

 5                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes, I do.

 6                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

 7   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

 8   yield.

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

10   Carlucci, do you yield?

11                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

12                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

13   sponsor continues to yield.

14                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

15   Mr. President.  So through you, what is that 

16   definition?

17                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   The definition 

18   that I have in front of me, what I read 

19   previously, is "the diagnosis of illness and 

20   physical conditions in the performance of 

21   therapeutic and corrective measures within a 

22   specialty area of practice, in collaboration with 

23   a licensed physician qualified to collaborate in 

24   the specialty involved, provided such services 

25   are performed in accordance with a written 


                                                               2795

 1   practice agreement and written practice 

 2   protocols."

 3                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

 4   Mr. President, if the sponsor would --

 5                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   And that's just 

 6   part of the scope.  As we talked about before, 

 7   really when we talk about psychiatric nurse 

 8   practitioners, the ability to treat, diagnose and 

 9   prescribe.

10                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

11   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

12   yield.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

14   Carlucci, do you yield?  

15                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

17   sponsor yields.

18                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

19   Mr. President, through you.  

20                I was unclear in my earlier 

21   question.  I was not referring in particular to 

22   the scope of practice of nurse practitioners.  My 

23   question -- through you, Mr. President -- would 

24   be how you define the concept of scope of 

25   practice, regardless of whether we're talking 


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 1   about doctors, nurse practitioners, or any other 

 2   person.

 3                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Well, I would 

 4   say, to make it as short as possible, the 

 5   definition of law that gives them the criteria to 

 6   act within that profession.

 7                SENATOR RIVERA:   Through you, 

 8   Mr. President, if the sponsor would continue to 

 9   yield.

10                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

11   Carlucci?  

12                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Yes.

13                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

14   sponsor yields.

15                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

16   Mr. President.  

17                So if we're saying that we're 

18   talking about procedures, action and processes 

19   that are permitted under the law for a particular 

20   licensed individual, how is the bill in front of 

21   us not a scope-of-practice bill as it relates to 

22   nurse practitioners?

23                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   This bill is 

24   allowing nurse practitioners to fully act within 

25   their scope of practice.  This is changing Mental 


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 1   Hygiene Law, not changing their scope of practice 

 2   in the Education Law.  The simple change to bring 

 3   it into the 21st century and allow nurse 

 4   practitioners to admit on a voluntary or 

 5   involuntary basis.

 6                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

 7   Mr. President.  On the bill.

 8                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 9   Rivera on the bill.

10                SENATOR RIVERA:   Thank you, 

11   Mr. President.

12                So I thank the sponsor for answering 

13   some of the questions.  

14                And when I'm referring to scope of 

15   practice in particular, we might be talking about 

16   19th, 20th or 21st century.  What we're talking 

17   about is the actions, the procedures and the 

18   processes that somebody can perform.  

19                So I have to agree with my colleague 

20   Senator Stavisky when pointing out that this bill 

21   actually changes the way that nurse practitioners 

22   can actually do their job.  It actually expands 

23   their ability to do something; therefore, it is 

24   something that should have been considered in the 

25   Higher Education Committee.  That's number one.  


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 1                Number two, what we're talking about 

 2   here -- and I also have to agree with Senator 

 3   Stavisky -- is a very specific action that has to 

 4   do with the involuntary -- you know, putting 

 5   somebody in a psychiatric hospital 

 6   involuntarily.  That is something that is, as a 

 7   matter of fact, the conversation that we were 

 8   having earlier.  And I want to say Senator 

 9   Sanders was the one that shared this with me, and 

10   I could not agree with him more.  We should be 

11   talking about how to not lower the standards for 

12   such an action but actually make sure that we 

13   hold them to where we are right now, since we're 

14   talking about a very serious action that a 

15   medical practitioner will take.

16                And lastly, I would also agree with 

17   Senator Hannon that when we're talking about what 

18   nurse practitioners can and cannot do, certainly 

19   we should be talking within the Health 

20   Department.

21                I have to say that even though I 

22   don't question that we might need more 

23   professionals to be able to do this type of work, 

24   I do not agree -- even though nurse practitioners 

25   are highly skilled individuals, I do not believe 


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 1   that we should expand their ability to be able to 

 2   do this particular thing.  So I will be voting in 

 3   the negative on this piece of legislation.  

 4                Thank you so much, Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 6   Carlucci.

 7                SENATOR CARLUCCI:   Mr. President, 

 8   after listening to the concerns of my colleagues, 

 9   I'd like to lay this bill aside for the day and 

10   work with my colleagues to find out how we can 

11   make this bill what it's intending to do, to move 

12   these laws into the 21st century, give that 

13   flexibility that's needed.  

14                So I'll lay the bill aside for the 

15   day.

16                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The bill 

17   is laid aside for the day.

18                Senator Libous, that completes the 

19   controversial reading of the calendar.

20                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, I 

21   believe that in consultation with -- there's no 

22   consultation.

23                (Laughter.)

24                SENATOR LIBOUS:   On behalf of 

25   Senator Klein and Senator Skelos, there will be a 


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 1   hand-up coming up to the desk.

 2                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   The 

 3   hand-up is received.

 4                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President.

 5                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   Senator 

 6   Libous.

 7                SENATOR LIBOUS:   Mr. President, is 

 8   there any further business at the desk?  

 9                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   There is 

10   no further business at the desk.

11                SENATOR LIBOUS:  There being no 

12   further business, I move that the Senate will 

13   adjourn until tomorrow, Thursday, June 4th, at 

14   3:00 p.m.

15                ACTING PRESIDENT VALESKY:   On 

16   motion, the Senate stands adjourned until 

17   Tuesday, June 4th, at 3:00 p.m.

18                (Whereupon, at 5:08 p.m., the Senate 

19   adjourned.)

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