senate Bill S4116A

2011-2012 Legislative Session

Relates to the treatment of earned income of a dependent child under the age of 18 and income of a dependent 18, 19 or 20 year old household member when determining eligibility of a household for a child care sub

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Feb 24, 2012 print number 4116a
amend (t) and recommit to children and families
Jan 04, 2012 referred to children and families
Mar 18, 2011 referred to children and families

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S4116 - Bill Details

See Assembly Version of this Bill:
A5843B
Current Committee:
Law Section:
Social Services Law
Laws Affected:
Amd §410-w, Soc Serv L

S4116 - Bill Texts

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Relates to the treatment of the earned income of a child under the age of 18 and income of a dependent 18, 19 or 20 year old household member when determining the eligibility of a household for a child care subsidy.

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BILL NUMBER:S4116

TITLE OF BILL:
An act
to amend the social services law, in relation to the treatment of earned
income of a child under the age of 18 when determining the eligibility
of a household for a child care subsidy

PURPOSE OR GENERAL IDEA OF BILL:
The purpose of this bill is to
establish uniform budgeting rules across the State when determining a
family's eligibility for child care assistance, and the amount of the
family share.

SUMMARY OF SPECIFIC PROVISIONS:
Section one of the bill amends §410-w
of the Social Services Law by adding a new paragraph two requiring
the income of a child under the age of eighteen to be disregarded
when determining eligibility for a child care subsidy. The income of
youth in the household ages 18-20 would be disregarded unless
including such income would benefit the family by either lowering the
amount of the family share or making such family eligible for child
care assistance.

Subdivisions 2,3,4,5 and 6 of section 410-w of the social services law
are renumbered.

Section two sets an effective date of immediately.

JUSTIFICATION:
This bill addresses the treatment of the earned income
of teenagers in households where the parent or caretaker of the
teenager applies for a child care subsidy on behalf of a younger
child in the household. First, the bill would make the treatment of
earnings for children under the age of 18 consistent with public
assistance budgeting. Second, the bill would set forth a uniform rule
for the treatment of 18, 19 and 20 year olds. Currently, social
services districts are free to develop differing budgeting rules for
older teens, so they vary from county to county.

When financial eligibility for a child care subsidy is determined, the
general rule is to look at the size of the household and the income
of those in the household. Currently state regulations only exempt
the earned income of a child under the age of 14 when determining
eligibility for a child care subsidy. This rule is inconsistent with
budgeting for cash public assistance programs, which disregards all
of the earned income of a child under the age of 18. This bill would
amend the Social Services Law to make child care budgeting consistent
with public assistance budgeting.

State regulations currently allow local districts to determine whether
to count the income of 18, 19 or 20 year olds when determining a
parent's financial eligibility for child care for a younger child in
the household. This is in direct contrast to public assistance
eligibility,
where the income of older teens (18, 19 and 20 year olds) is


disregarded, but they are included in the household size for
determining the financial need of the family. This hill proposes that
a similar rule be adopted for child care budgeting unless doing so
would disadvantage the family.

Currently there is no uniform state policy on how to budget the income
of older teens when calculating the eligibility of the family for
child care subsidy, and as a result, local policy varies dramatically
across the state. Local districts have the option of considering the
income of these young adults when determining the financial
eligibility of their parents and younger siblings for a child care
subsidy.

Therefore, a risk arises that the presence of the adult child in the
household could harm the family for the purpose of calculating child
care subsidy benefits because any income earned by the adult child
would be included as part of the family income, thereby pushing the
family into a higher income bracket and making them ineligible. This
rule effectively results in a requirement that 18-20 year olds in low
income families apply their earnings to the cost of child care for
their younger siblings. This policy also penalizes the parent with a
higher co-payment when the child fails to make his income available.
When the adult child is unconditionally counted as part of the
child-care services unit, a family with an adult child who works will
pay a larger family share than a family whose adult child does not
work. In no other social welfare program do we have budgeting rules
which vary based upon the choice of the county, a choice which can be
changed simply by amending their consolidated services plan.

PRIOR LEGISLATIVE HISTORY:
None.

FISCAL IMPLICATIONS:
To be determined.

EFFECTIVE DATE:
Immediate.

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                    S T A T E   O F   N E W   Y O R K
________________________________________________________________________

                                  4116

                       2011-2012 Regular Sessions

                            I N  S E N A T E

                             March 18, 2011
                               ___________

Introduced  by  Sen.  SAVINO -- read twice and ordered printed, and when
  printed to be committed to the Committee on Children and Families

AN ACT to amend the social services law, in relation to the treatment of
  earned income of a child under the age  of  18  when  determining  the
  eligibility of a household for a child care subsidy

  THE  PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REPRESENTED IN SENATE AND ASSEM-
BLY, DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

  Section 1. Subdivisions 2, 3, 4, 5 and  6  of  section  410-w  of  the
social  services law, are renumbered subdivisions 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 and a
new subdivision 2 is added to read as follows:
  2. FOR PURPOSES OF DETERMINING FINANCIAL ELIGIBILITY UNDER THIS TITLE,
THE EARNED INCOME OF A CHILD UNDER THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN SHALL  BE  DISRE-
GARDED  WHEN DETERMINING THE ELIGIBILITY OF A HOUSEHOLD FOR A CHILD CARE
SUBSIDY. THE INCOME OF AN EIGHTEEN, NINETEEN, OR TWENTY YEAR OLD  HOUSE-
HOLD MEMBER SHALL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE CHILD CARE SERVICES UNIT UNLESS
DOING  SO  WOULD BENEFIT THE FAMILY BY EITHER LOWERING THE AMOUNT OF THE
FAMILY SHARE OR MAKING AN OTHERWISE INELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLD ELIGIBLE FOR  A
SUBSIDY.
  S 2. This act shall take effect immediately.





 EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets
                      [ ] is old law to be omitted.
                                                           LBD09157-01-1

Co-Sponsors

S4116A (ACTIVE) - Bill Details

See Assembly Version of this Bill:
A5843B
Current Committee:
Law Section:
Social Services Law
Laws Affected:
Amd §410-w, Soc Serv L

S4116A (ACTIVE) - Bill Texts

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Relates to the treatment of the earned income of a child under the age of 18 and income of a dependent 18, 19 or 20 year old household member when determining the eligibility of a household for a child care subsidy.

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BILL NUMBER:S4116A

TITLE OF BILL:
An act to amend the social services law, in relation to the treatment of
earned income of a child under the age of 18 and the income of an 18,
19, or 20 year old household member when determining the eligibility of
a household for a child care subsidy

PURPOSE OR GENERAL IDEA OF BILL:
The purpose of this bill is to establish uniform budgeting rules across
the State when determining a family's eligibility for child care assist-
ance, and the amount of the family share.

SUMMARY OF SPECIFIC PROVISIONS:
Section one of the bill amends §410-w of the social Services Law by
adding a new paragraph two requiring the income of a child under the age
of eighteen to be disregarded when determining eligibility for a child
care subsidy. The income of youth in the household ages 18-20 would be
disregarded unless including such income would benefit the family by
either lowering the amount of the family share or making such family
eligible for child care assistance.

Subdivisions 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 of section 410-w of the social services
law are renumbered.

Section two sets an effective date of immediately.

JUSTIFICATION:
This bill addresses the treatment of the earned income of teenagers in
households where the parent or caretaker of the teenager applies for a
child care subsidy on behalf of a younger child in the household.
First, the bill would make the treatment of earnings for children under
the age of 18 consistent with public assistance budgeting. Second, the
bill would set forth a uniform rule for the treatment of 18, 19 and 20
year olds. Currently, social services districts are free to develop
differing budgeting rules for older teens, so they vary from county to
county.

When financial eligibility for a child care subsidy is determined, the
general rule is to look at the size of the household and the income of
those in the household. Currently state regulations only exempt the
earned income of a child under the age of 14 when determining eligibil-
ity for a child care subsidy. This rule is inconsistent with budgeting
for cash public assistance programs, which disregards all of the earned
income of a child under the age of 18. This bill would amend the social
Services Law to make child care budgeting consistent with public assist-
ance budgeting.

State regulations currently allow local districts to determine whether
to count the income of 18, 19 or 20 year olds when determining a
parent's financial eligibility for child care for a younger child in the

household. This is in direct contrast to public assistance eligibility,
where the income of older teens (18, 19 and 20 year olds) is disre-
garded, but they are included in the household size for determining the
financial need of the family. This hill proposes that a similar rule be
adopted for child care budgeting unless doing so would disadvantage the
family.

Currently there is no uniform state policy on how to budget the income
of older teens when calculating the eligibility of the family for child
care subsidy, and as a result, local policy varies dramatically across
the state. Local districts have the option of considering the income of
these young adults when determining the financial eligibility of their
parents and younger siblings for a child care subsidy.

Therefore, a risk arises that the presence of the adult child in the
household could harm the family for the purpose of calculating child
care subsidy benefits because any income earned by the adult child would
be included as part of the family income, thereby pushing the family
into a higher income bracket and making them ineligible. This rule
effectively results in a requirement that 18-20 year olds in low income
families apply their earnings to the cost of child care for their young-
er siblings. This policy also penalizes the parent with a higher co-pay-
ment when the child fails to make his income available. When the adult
child is unconditionally counted as part of the child-care services
unit, a family with an adult child who works will pay a larger family
share than a family whose adult child does not work. In no other social
welfare program do we have budgeting rules which vary based upon the
choice of the county, a choice which can be changed simply by amending
their consolidated services plan.

PRIOR LEGISLATIVE HISTORY:
None.

FISCAL IMPLICATIONS:
To be determined.

EFFECTIVE DATE:
Immediate.

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                    S T A T E   O F   N E W   Y O R K
________________________________________________________________________

                                 4116--A

                       2011-2012 Regular Sessions

                            I N  S E N A T E

                             March 18, 2011
                               ___________

Introduced by Sens. SAVINO, OPPENHEIMER -- read twice and ordered print-
  ed,  and when printed to be committed to the Committee on Children and
  Families -- recommitted to the Committee on Children and  Families  in
  accordance  with  Senate  Rule 6, sec. 8 -- committee discharged, bill
  amended, ordered reprinted as amended and recommitted to said  commit-
  tee

AN ACT to amend the social services law, in relation to the treatment of
  earned  income of a child under the age of 18 and the income of an 18,
  19, or 20 year old household member when determining  the  eligibility
  of a household for a child care subsidy

  THE  PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REPRESENTED IN SENATE AND ASSEM-
BLY, DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

  Section 1. Subdivisions 2, 3, 4, 5 and  6  of  section  410-w  of  the
social  services law, are renumbered subdivisions 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 and a
new subdivision 2 is added to read as follows:
  2. FOR PURPOSES OF DETERMINING FINANCIAL ELIGIBILITY UNDER THIS TITLE,
THE EARNED INCOME OF A DEPENDENT CHILD UNDER THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN, WHO IS
NOT LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHILD OR CHILDREN FOR WHICH  CHILD  CARE
ASSISTANCE  IS  SOUGHT, SHALL BE DISREGARDED WHEN DETERMINING THE ELIGI-
BILITY OF A HOUSEHOLD FOR A CHILD CARE SUBSIDY. THE INCOME OF A  DEPEND-
ENT  EIGHTEEN, NINETEEN, OR TWENTY YEAR OLD HOUSEHOLD MEMBER, WHO IS NOT
LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHILD  OR  CHILDREN  FOR  WHICH  CHILD  CARE
ASSISTANCE  IS  SOUGHT, SHALL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE CHILD CARE SERVICES
UNIT UNLESS DOING SO WOULD BENEFIT THE FAMILY  BY  EITHER  LOWERING  THE
AMOUNT  OF  THE FAMILY SHARE OR MAKING AN OTHERWISE INELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLD
ELIGIBLE FOR A SUBSIDY.
  S 2. This act shall take effect immediately.


 EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets
                      [ ] is old law to be omitted.
                                                           LBD09157-04-1

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